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• Sam: we've been talking him all day about this. And then so we call him up. I'm like, Hey mate, yeah, coming to jam We're we're waiting here for you. Are you coming? Yes. Mate, mate, I'm I'm just out buying pickles. Like, What? Yeah, mate, I've just gone up to IGA. yeah, d' do you want some pickles? No, Paco. Do you want to ja Nah mate, I'm I'm eating pickles. Doot doot doot And hence the story of how Paco Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: did not join our band. Hey everyone. Welcome back to Pile of Mates, the movie podcast where we don't really know much about movies, but we still talk about them anyway. welcome back and here are my co hosts, Paco, Paco Paxton. Daniel (Pacco): How you going? Sam: And Corey Middleton. Corey: Hello, hello. Sam: How are we doing, gentlemen? Daniel (Pacco): Very fell, how are you? Sam: Yeah. Splendid, splendid. Now Paco, you're just looking in somewhere a little bit exotic and different today. Where in the world are you? Daniel (Pacco): I'm in this abandoned building right now, so yeah, kinda got Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): locked up. Nah, no, I'm just overseas in Thailand, so just meeting up with the in laws and yeah. Sam: Yeah, love that man. That's well, I w we really applaud your commitment to the podcast that you are dialing in. I wanna want to noted also that you messaged us yesterday. We were supposed to record yesterday and you're like, guys, I I I I I might be a little bit late. It's it's my wife's birthday and we're like, dude, we can push it a day, it's fine. That's how committed that's how committed Daniel (Pacco): I completely forgot about it, mate. Sam: you are to this podcast, that you are happy to you were you were willing to skip your wife's birthday for this podcast. Daniel (Pacco): I was willing to go in for a divorce, mate, but no no no. Corey: Ha ha. Sam: Beautiful week. Well, I hope the commitment is keeping up with watching this film because this week we watched the 2016 film, the Irish musical drama Sing Street. A little bit about Sing Street here. So it's set in 1985, inner city Dublin. Parents are splitting up, so naturally Connor, he's the youngest of three, decides to do the sensible thing after being put in a school to save some money. decides to start a band and to to pull a model, basically, and to get her in his music videos. And pretty much bangers and heartbreak follows. So Sing Street guys. Welcome to S we welcome to first of all Sung Street. But then how did the that spelling really annoy you? The start there. Sung Street? Daniel (Pacco): Just a little bit. Sam: Well, welcome to Sing Street. How did you guys go with this one? I th I feel like the more I watched this, I was so glad we picked it because it's got so many nuggets and I feel like and for listeners at home, Corey and myself were actually years, long time ago, were in a little school high school band. So there are so many bits here that just reminded me of of this of putting a band together in high school. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, but putting a band together in high school or not being in a band in general and not anyone in particular. Sam: Yes. Daniel (Pacco): But it had so many relatable moments just being in the high school, I guess we all Sam: Mm. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): had that moment where we try to impress a girl with some false lead or whatnot and yeah. Sam: Yes. I did love the when he after he meets the model for the first time, R was it Ralphina? And he goes back and he's Yeah, I'm in a band, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he walks back, We've we've got we've got to start a band like now, like ASAP, this is very important, utmost importance. Corey: Yeah, when you mentioned it last week, you gave a general overview of the movie. I was expecting him to have started the band before he'd met the chick. Sam: Yeah. Corey: And I was like, hang on, this it this is the wrong way around here. But yeah, it was quite hilarious when he's like, Sam: Not to mention some musical talent. Corey: Yeah. Yep. Well Daniel (Pacco): yeah. Well, I'm not kidding, the first think it was thirty seconds of the movie, he's just strung it on the guitar and the family yelling in the background, This guy sucks at singing. What has he put his head on? Sam: Did that bring to brings back some memories there, Paco? Just shut the hell up. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah, still dancing, still cut. I wasn't gonna say anything, but okay. Sam: I'm sorry, sorry, my apologies. You have fabulous skills on a guitar that are met only by Jimi Hendrix himself. Corey: I thought you meant otherwise about the family yelling. Daniel (Pacco): okay. Yeah, I thought he met the parents. Sam: no, I was just trying to insult his insult his God, I'm not that harsh. Jesus Christ. I was just insulting his ability to play the guitar. Nothing about your family situation. God, I'm not a horrible Daniel (Pacco): I don't know. What sort what sort of fucked up podcast is. Corey: I was like, God, you're really digging today. Sam: person. Daniel (Pacco): look, I'll just make sure I'll never follow this for this podcasterwise, folks. Okay. Moving on. Sam: And hello at home to Paco's parents. We hope you're listening in. Hope things are going well in the in the Paxton household. Daniel (Pacco): shit. Moving on. Sam: So the movie starts in nineteen eighty-five, Dublin. First of all, no none of us were alive, so memories of nineteen eighty-five. We can skip that one on the list here. But so Connor's fifteen, inner city, South Dublin, decides to start writing music to cope with his parents, constantly rowing, going, So he knows how to write music, but he just doesn't know how to sing, right? Yeah. Yes. Yeah, exactly right. Daniel (Pacco): Sounds like someone familiar, yeah. Take Sam: I probably deserve that. God. Actually I I Daniel (Pacco): the stage. good. Sam: wanna pull back to the start of the film, even before the credits roll. Do you guys cringe every time the logo comes up for the Weinstein Company? You're like, ooh, it just Corey: yeah. Sam: Yeah. And it 'cause this is this is like Daniel (Pacco): G Sam: this was after all that happened too, twenty sixteen, I'm pretty sure, if I know my Hollywood history. So there's what have been the last films that has a big I think we we looked it up, it's it's see they ceased having well films out in twenty eighteen, so yeah. It's a good film, but geez, you go o always feel a bit awkward. But anyway, moving on. so money's tight and he's pulled from a school, but then put equally into another private school, which is looks like quite posh. Are just all the schools in Dublin quite posh. This is like the less posh one. Daniel (Pacco): I don't know, personally I Corey: As the accents Daniel (Pacco): thought I thought it was more public. Sam: Yeah. Yeah, how's your Irish accents, guys? did you guys so we also went to a a private boys' school and did you guys get any sort of flashbacks and memories from our high school and those those early scenes? It really things really popped up for me. first of all the the the the slogan th or the the the motto that's in in Latin kinda really Corey: Yes. Sam: really kinda had some flashbacks there. Corey: To be honest, we started watching the movie, watched it with the wife again. same as always. And every time, Sam: Yeah. Yep. you too cute. Corey: he gets sent to this all boys' school and it's like Sam: Mm. Corey: religious, I don't know if it's Catholic or what. And Sam: I Cath the Brotherhood no Christian Brothers School, but it yeah, very Catholicy vibes, regardless. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Mm, mm. Corey: Yeah. And I was just saying to Anita, I'm like, God, this is giving me vibes of our school. And then Anita's Sam: Yeah. Corey: like, it must have been why Sam picked it, 'cause he's having flashbacks to his youth. Sam: No, I totally forgot, but it yeah. But yeah, it definitely panned out that way. Sorry, that Daniel (Pacco): Did it remind you of VCal by any chance? I don't know. That's what it reminded me of. Sam: one stands for Victorian Certificate of Attempted Learning, right? No, no, I I kid Daniel (Pacco): I'll become global. Okay. Sam: everyone. VCAL, commonly known as Victorian Certificate of Applied Learning, that our our famous packer here decided to try for one day and then it was a bit too easy for him, so he went he he he stepped back up. Daniel (Pacco): That was a very questionable moment. I did reevaluate my life choices after that. Sam: Y what was your trade gonna be? Cause you did one day. What was your trade gonna be? Daniel (Pacco): I don't know, I was thinking electrician at the time, looking back, it would have been a good choice. Yeah. But I don't know. Well, Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Electricians make bank. Yeah. Corey: Yeah. Any trade. Daniel (Pacco): I I just remember this one class, like like you said, the one and only class, and someone just took off their underwear and threw it at the whiteboard in the class and went, I think I'm better than this. But I don't know. But to be honest, V C Sam: you tried. You tried, sir. Daniel (Pacco): E wasn't much different. You still had your dropkicks, so I don't know. Sam: Yes, that being us. Yes. Yeah, we yes, we were s Daniel (Pacco): you guys turn out all right? Sam: yeah, we got there. Took a it took a while, took a few left hand turns, but we got there. Another Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: one that really d stood out for me in the memory of a high school with this. Now, I maybe have got a false memory of this, but they so when someone walks into the classroom, did we all stand up? Was that a thing? Was that like a thing you would stand up? Was it just Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. I've got Corey: What a teachers. Sam: for home room? No, no. If if a teacher entered the classroom something. Did we stand up? Was that a thing? Or am I that was a thing, right? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, no. Homeroom, definitely homeroom. When it was homeroom or assembly, we always did that. And I think some of the other classes. Sam: Yeah. Okay, so not like every class, but if someone walked in, you'll stood up and Not saluted, you just just huh. Daniel (Pacco): I think it depends. If it was the principle we did. I don't know. I just followed the leaders of the class and if they do, well, fuck it, do it. Sam: Yeah. Corey: I feel like we wouldn't have done it for year eleven and twelve though. but I feel like seven Sam: All right. Corey: and eight we would have. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah. Yeah Yeah. Corey: I don't know. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. I I think we did. I think we did a lot of that, but I don't know, I was genuinely late for class or I missed it. Sam: Hmm. It's definitely bringing back a lot of memories, though. yes. Speaking of late for class, th the there's the old saying that the closer you will live to a high to to to where you are, the all the later you're gonna always be. Now, a lovely Corey here in high school would was about, a couple of minutes walk from school and I don't think I ever saw him make yeah, a walk. Exactly. Not worth getting in the car Daniel (Pacco): I'll legit round the corner. Sam: to drop take him to school. And I don't think I saw Corey in Home Room on time once. Ha ha ha ha. Corey: Hey, I was tw it was a twenty minute walk, so I wasn't right next Sam: Whew. Corey: door, but yeah. I like to be on time or a few minutes past. Daniel (Pacco): Mate, you legit Sam: I see. Daniel (Pacco): just have to walk past save or worse, just that cat too. School. Corey: Yeah. It was a safe way back then, early on, I think. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, it was. Yeah. Back in our day. Sam: It was, I know, the safe ways. God. Now I can't believe this this this Woolworths thing now it's still safe ways to me. Do you guys know what the Daniel (Pacco): gets to my bones. Sam: what the Woolworths equivalent is called in New Zealand? It has the exact identical branding, same Daniel (Pacco): Shape worse? Sam: colors, everything. It's just called something different. It's not called Safeway and it's not called Woolworths. It's called not much better. It's called Countdown. When I went to New Zealand, every time we walked past, we go, It's the final countdown. As you can see, guys, this is why Daniel (Pacco): No cat there. gee. Sam: our band did not work out when I was somewhat in charge of singing. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: Moving on. Sorry. Corey: Well, there were so many memories of all boys' school, religious, starting a band. I'm like I was ticking off our growing up and everything. Yeah. The black shoes. Sam: Yeah. The black shoes. Yeah. Cheese that Daniel (Pacco): It was everything. Yeah. I don't know, did you guys get a false sense of nostalgia? Yes, it was in the eighties, but you just related in so many moments. that's what I loved about Sam: I wouldn't s yeah. I think our school was a little bit behind in some look, school the the high school experience I don't think changes as much as we think it does. It's horrible. But there there are but there are also some great parts to it. But the high school experience, whether it's yeah, the early eighties, I think the environment you put in, whether it's like a Christian school or a public school, probably is the bigger factor than whether it's in the eighties, the nineties, the early two thousands, the mid two thousands. Which is probably why we relate to it so much. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. But I don't know about you guys, I never went to the toilet, stuck down my pants and danced in front of anybody for that. Sam: Yeah, that was weird. That was a Yeah. Corey: you didn't? Sam: So safety numbers, Daniel (Pacco): Hmm. Sam: Paco, right? Daniel (Pacco): That wasn't me. Fucking hell. Yeah. Corey: I get you. We legit Sam: I know. Took you a while. Corey: needed to go at the same time, Daniel (Pacco): Every day, goddamn Sam: Happened awfully yeah. Yeah. Once is an accident. Daniel (Pacco): man. Good lord. Yeah. Sam: boy schools. God. I'm Corey: you sick boys. Sam: sure I feel like we could probably have to podcast on the nightmares of of some the things that g went on in an old boy school. look again, we I I think honestly, as much of a joke, I think we had a somewhat positive experience in high school. I met you guys and some friends and I I I think I always look fondly on my on my high school experience. But also as I look back on things, there was also memories of things like walking in the toilet and seeing someone take a massive shit on the top of the toilet. Corey: Yeah. Sam: So Daniel (Pacco): Wanna tell us more about that, Corey? I know it was you. Corey: That wasn't me. Sam: Yeah. Corey: I just saw it like you guys did as well. ugh. That was a big one. And then I remember that Janitor was like really Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, I know. Corey: pissed off. So he went and told the principal or a teacher and was like, I'm not cleaning this up or I don't know, something, but he wasn't happy. Sam: It was pretty gross. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): they there was another one that happened a year later and someone stuck a candle in it. Sam: God. Yeah. Look, like we said, there's some fantastic experiences from our high school, but also some not so fantastic experiences. I think every time I talk to to my partner about this, I'll be yeah, this happened in high school and she's like, That's weird. I'm like, that was no that was pretty normal for us. I think the the idea of a boys school was I think the they they think, this is your rough and guts and they're they're fighting all the time which is not really the truth, honestly. I think we just did stupid things. I I I remember there Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: was a time where during lunch we were bored, so we played a game where we would blindfold someone, put them against a wall and throw things at them, and Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: if you missed you had to take their spot or something like that. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. And I remember Corey: I hated that game. Daniel (Pacco): c I loved it. I remember we got our old mate at the time, Josh blindfolded at the wall. And it was like the jocks of the year level saw us playing the game so they started playing as well, started playing apples, Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): oranges and eggs. I there was a whole assembly about those, I don't know what type of sick game you're playing when you blindfold someone and put on the wall. It has to stop now. Corey: Cause we had a teacher come come by the wall and then we all just drop like put the balls Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: behind our backs. And yeah, yeah. And then he's looking at Josh with the blindfold on, Sam: We're just playing down ball, mate. What are you talking about? Why is there someone blindfolded? he's doing Corey: just standing against the wall. And he's like, What's going on? And we're all just silent and Daniel (Pacco): Is it over yet? Corey: yeah, the teacher's just like, What the hell is going on here? Daniel (Pacco): see, this is what Sam: god. Daniel (Pacco): I think I think we're in the last of the tail end of this whole generation who did stupid stuff like that. I I don't know about you guys, I've thought Yeah, but Sam: I'm sure the generations now do stupid things, they just post about it online instead. Daniel (Pacco): but yeah, you got that whole part, but everyone's Sam: Mm. Daniel (Pacco): mainly on their phones now. you go to Knox or something, you see Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): everyone, hey, they all just this I don't know, I don't think we're on the end of that turn of being just rough nuts and whatnot. Yeah. Sam: Yeah. It was a lot of fun though. I think we did a lot of stupid things in high school, but again I I always look back in a somewhat positive light on our high school experience. Mostly. There's some weird things too. So Daniel (Pacco): Nicely. Sam: back to the movie. The the Christian brothers. So it's it's Paco, any thoughts on on the the school in general? Daniel (Pacco): Well, it it kinda opens up to this vibe when they're all in the classroom. And yeah, we brought up before, a bit like V Cal, everyone's punching everybody. Or let's just say a typical public school. And Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): the class has got this punch on going on, they're throwing shit, even the teachers having taking the piss at the start of class. Yeah. Yeah. I I thought it was something we didn't have at that extreme. Well, not that we know of, but Sam: I'm sure there were some crazy classrooms where we just it was just we were obviously the the great the great students that would never misbehave like that. did you guys is there any so there was the there's the the priest or so it's a f the the brother or the father that's whichever one he is, that that scolds him essentially for the for the black shoes or having black shoes. Did that bring back any memories of any just horrible Daniel (Pacco): I did it. Sam: Brother priests. Okay, I want to preface Daniel (Pacco): Well Sam: that n none of the priests or brothers that were out of our school were at all inappropriate or weird. Don't worry, we were this is just, they were fine. There was nothing not insinuated anything at all. I just want that. Yeah, that was pretty weird. Corey: You can use my bathroom, Sam. Daniel (Pacco): we didn't Come on. Was that not man, I thought I was busy at one being like what the fuck is going on here? geez. Corey: Yeah, I thought the movie was gonna go in a different direction when he was like, You can use my bathroom and I was like, Ooh but it didn't, so it was all Sam: Yeah. no. this that's much worse. Corey: good. Sam: Yeah, exactly. He just shoved his head into into Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. And then moments later you legit Sam: the thing and went Corey: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): god. But going to that moment when he kept complaining about his shoes and again and again, did that not remind you of some people in high school? I think old mate Jake, old mate Josh, I think Josh one time had no soles on his shoe one year. He just came to school with just yeah, and he's Sam: That does that does remind me. Daniel (Pacco): just like, yeah, I don't have soles. I remember looking down, I like, that's your foot gun right through the shoe back. Sam: Yeah, we I I like and I don't think it was the fact that our friends couldn't buy Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: new shoes, they just they didn't want to and then it was the principle of it. They'd Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: rather spend money on something else. whereas this kid is super poor and he's like, We can't afford another dollar and he's like, Well, that's unlucky for you. Anyway, you can walk barefoot for the rest of the fucking day. But also if I'm walking barefoot Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, but they would say Sam: for the rest of the day, are you really gonna walk into a puddle straight away? That's his fault, honestly. Daniel (Pacco): What the fuck? Corey: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): What was that? Sam: So we meet Daniel (Pacco): Well but Sam: Darren, little redhead kid. And he's a bit of a hustler, entrepreneur, and this basically this guy's like, Look, I get things done. You call me, here's my card, I don't have a number, but just call me, just call my name. I had a good giggle at that. And what do we think of Darren? He seems like a good good lad, could could reliable, I would say. Daniel (Pacco): It was a bit questionable as a business model entrepreneur fellow. Like like you said, yeah, if just if you need anything, give me a call, but I I don't have Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): a number, money, no worries. Sam: Kids definitely doing drugs, rather smuggling drugs and dealing them, right? Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Wow, wow Sam: Yeah. Okay. Just just just confirm. Good to know. Corey: I felt like when he first started he came on screen, it was the first introduction for me of the thick Irish accent. And I was just litch like literally to Anita, I'm like, I don't understand half of what he's saying here. I'm like, we've got to put subtitles on. No, I just yeah. Sam: Did you watch it with subtitles? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: I didn't understand half the movie, to be honest. Sam: no. How about you, Paco? Do you go for the subtitles or you you toughened up? Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): No, no, I knew what was going on, my wee laddie, was that Scottish Sam: So then we meet another important character in the film, Ralfina. or Ralfina, who's a model who definitely looks older than 16, by the way. they're if they're all, si like they're supposed to be the same age. Just that's what the film is telling us. This is not then they're not the same age, right? Corey: I think she's a year older, isn't she? But I think it yeah. I think it's the makeup in the hair. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): well. Or supposed to be. Sam: Okay, but still yeah Yeah. Yeah, this is true. Well she's a model, so that's that's you've gotta be the look. You've got to look the part, obviously. And then stretch Daniel (Pacco): Well yeah. Yeah. I I loved her vibe though when they if I was just gonna say I loved her vibe when they first introduced her and she was just like, Yeah, I'm just busy and she's just standing at steps all day, just go Sam: I'm just super busy. God just I can't catch up. Corey: That was that was something I was so I was just like, what is she actually doing? She stands on the steps out the front of this all boys' school every day and I'm like, what is she actually doing out there? Sam: Yeah. Corey: she just checking the, what's coming and going and Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. she's just a vibe, mate. It's just a vibe. Sam: So Paco's got a little crush. Daniel (Pacco): yeah, yeah. I think she was twenty one, twenty two when I guess but look, if we were all at that age and chasing someone like that. yeah, well had to. We got a podcast going on, mate. Sam: So she I hang on what was the act the actress's name but I she looked super familiar and I was like where have I seen her before? Lucy Boynton. Now the only other credit that I really recognized her from, can you guys guess where you've seen her from? She has a familiar looking face, right? Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): it does, yeah. Sam: So she plays Mary Austin in a Bohemian Rhapsody. Mary Austin was Freddie Mercury's wife when he, married women. Yes. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, I'll watch that again now. Sam: that is a banger. that's an absolute classic. but yeah, she plays Mary Austen. Yeah, yeah. I guess they Corey: She seems a lot older in that movie. Hmm. Sam: the the the time spent of that film they start from when they first meet two years later. So I guess they they age her up and down in that film, whereas obviously this one she is but this one was also shot. earlier too. but there you go so that's Shh Daniel (Pacco): You're younger than me. What if they say? Moving on. Sam: so s so Connor is like super smitten with Rafina and he's like, you know what? I'm in a band. And I don't know whether she believed him or not, that first rendition of the song was genuinely terrible. just garbage. And I know I'm not a great singer at all, but Jesus that was If I think Daniel (Pacco): Does anyone else know the lyrics to that song? I that's the only words I know too, so I wanna Sam: Was that the w w was the song? Can you sing it for us again? 'Cause I genuinely forgotten the song. Daniel (Pacco): say take hungry, take it on me. Sam: take on me. You Daniel (Pacco): Well Sam: do the really high pitched part? No no no No, I can't do that. Let's not try that one. it's hang on, huh? Yeah, let me hang on it. Daniel (Pacco): God. Right, let me give him a squeeze. Corey: surprised that Sam: Nope, can't do that one. Daniel (Pacco): Nice. Corey: I was surprised how she actually was like, Yeah, right, I'll do it after he did sing 'cause I was like, Yeah, that wasn't a good performance. Sam: Yeah. Yeah, that was Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I guess she was just down for anything really, but Sam: But she's really busy, Paco. really busy. Daniel (Pacco): well yeah those those steps are recalling, like like I said, why would you stand there all day? Sam: So then we jump into like he's like, we need to put a band together. And it's like this I love these montages of it's like it's it's yeah whether it's getting the band back together or it's just getting the band together. It's like this, looking for band members and they're knocking on doors and I they so but they find Eamund, is it? Eamund? Eamon Eamund Daniel (Pacco): the first guy yeah. Corey: Amen. Sam: Eamon, yeah. He just seems like a vibe. He seems like a fun time, right? Yeah. Corey: He was cool. Good hairstyle. Daniel (Pacco): Played everything. Sam: Right? And he liked bunnies? Yeah. Yeah. Corey: He yeah, he could play anything. The bunnies were cute. Sam: Yeah. And then we just go full racism where they're like, Hey, there's a black guy in our school. Reckon he can play music? Daniel (Pacco): I don't know, he's black, so he must say. Corey: Yeah, he's black, he can play anything. Sam: Yeah, he's like, So what if I can? but then they like they never really touched that. They just throw away the cat it's pretty racist. They're not not just casual racism, that's full racism of well, he'll look good for the a for the diversity of the bands, so we'll go with him. He's good and then Daniel (Pacco): But when they first meet the guy, it's like hi, nice to meet you. Well what's wrong with them? And I'm like it's fucked. I don't know. Sam: God. And this really reminded me of us putting back in the day, Corey, when we were putting our band together and I was like, and I was I was telling Teigan this great story about I was like, Well we had, we had myself and Corey who could play guitar pretty well, pretty well. And then we also found a drummer and he was he could hit the he could hit the drums really hard, keep some time. So all right, need a bass player. And we're like, who do we know that plays bass? And and our young long young lad Daniel Paco Paxton's like, mate, I I play bass, mate. Paco, do you wanna and cause when you're starting a band, it it's like dating. You wanna you you invite someone over for a jam. That's your first thing. It's like, Hey, do you wanna come over to jam? It's like, Hey, you wanna come over and sip some wine and we can just, see where the night takes us. That's kinda what, jamming is. And so we're like, Hey Paco, you wanna do wanna come over and jam? We've got the drummer, we're gonna We'll book the this is how hardcore we're we'll book the music room after school and we'll you can come around and and jam with us. You y you don't have to bring a bass man, they've got it one there if you wanna grab it. If you don't wanna have to bring it all day, it's cool. He's like, Yeah, mate, all right, I'll I'll be there at three thirty. Well, all right, cool. So, three thirty, we rock up, we pull out our guitars, drummer starts setting up, We're just just just sitting there, but sipping the wine, I guess is the is the metaphorically, I guess, plastic, just doing some lights drums, getting warmed up. all right, bass player should be here shortly. three thirty comes and then quarter to four, I'm like, buddy Paco, we probably got pulled back from a teacher for being an idiot or something. we'll give him till four o'clock. where is Daniel (Pacco): you you fuck. Sam: he? Anyway, four o'clock goes past and then it becomes four fifteen and we're just at this point it's a gem. whatever, we're just playing. Well, I wonder where he is. Then we're four thirty, we're like, where the fuck is Paco? Is he coming or not? we've been talking him all day about this. And then so we call him up. I'm like, Hey mate, yeah, yeah, coming to jam We're we're waiting here for you. Are you coming? Yes. Mate, mate, I'm I'm just out buying pickles. Like, What? Yeah, mate, I've just gone up to IGA. yeah, d' do you want some pickles? No, Paco. Do you want to ja Nah mate, I'm I'm eating pickles. Doot doot doot And hence the story of how Paco Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: did not join our band. He stood us up. It's all true, yes. Corey: It's all true. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah. Look, I'll I'm not gonna lie, I can't get myself out of this one. Yeah. Sam: So then we went for a bass player who didn't know how to play instead. Corey: Yeah. Sam: He knew how to play one song, we w we taught him and then he stood on stage for a while and was a bit panicky. Love you, Dutchie. Became one my closest friends. Love him to death. But he Daniel (Pacco): Can you please just chuck this in the podcast later and just him playing on Sam: I promise you it will be there. Yeah, Corey: Boom boom boom boom. Sam: so yeah. So Paco you could have been there but you decided to eat pickles instead. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, get on. Sam: Were th were they at least good pickles? Daniel (Pacco): No, they were shit. I end up giving them to this random guy on the street. We call him Pickle Pete now, but that's a whole different story. On it so Corey: you still see him? Sam: Pickle pay. Daniel (Pacco): No, no, I don't know what happened to him, but Sam: Ha ha ha. Daniel (Pacco): again, this was just spell the moment on bought pickles. Thought we'd just run a I don't even know if we bought them to be honest, but we just walked out and this guy saw us and said, what's that in your hands? it's pickles, can I have some please? And then rest of history. Pickle paint. There we go. Yeah. Sam: Pickle Pete. You pickle his Pete. Anyway. So Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: Sing Street is much more successful in finding a bass player and a drummer than Inside Reality was, and found one together straight away that were ready to play. They're like the full English lads that, they're like, yeah, we'll play. Yeah, we do this. They just seem like they're just basically they just look what what's the word? You what they just look like bucking bulls in a china shop going through those two. They just look like a good time. You're like, of course. That guy plays a bass and of course that guy plays the drums. They're absolutely stereotypically your bass player and your drummer. Daniel (Pacco): Definitely. shit. Sam: Definitely. So they get together, band practice and start writing a song. Yeah. any thoughts so far on putting the band together, guys? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. And it was look. Corey: It was not realistic to a yeah, our experience, that's for sure. I don't I was just Sam: Yeah. Corey: it's like especially throughout the whole movie. I understand they've got a short period to talk Sam: Yeah. Corey: about specific problems and complications, but I was like in reality there would be so much more band dr well and they all showed up at Sam: No no. Yeah, straight away. Corey: band practice all the time. There was no drama, no problems. I was just like, that's not real. Sam: To be fair, w once we Daniel (Pacco): They were just all in the neighborhood Corey. Corey: True. Guess they didn't have much else to do back then, so Sam: Yeah, look we did Yes But I love the shift quite early on in this film where 'cause we it's clearly established that Connor is not a good singer. And then quite quickly he becomes very capable at singing. About half an hour in, they you they got the band together, he starts he has one kind of they're just playing in in the in in the the the the the the mum's living room And he just suddenly belts it out. You're like, He suddenly, it's not just that he has tone, he has he has range. He he's just show me his confidence. I think there's confidence, but geez, that guy could not sing before, and then suddenly he can hit pitch, please. I know. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. It's like where did that come from? Sam: He's like, hey, we're the futurists, Daniel (Pacco): Why is he holding back? Sam: suddenly I can sing. completely unrealistic. There were other Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. And the mother going around bringing snacks while they're playing. And a bit of something behind the scenes as well while they were playing. You didn't pick up on that. What? Sam: What? What? No, did I? Corey: I don't remember that. What was it? Daniel (Pacco): Didn't you lie on a bed, kick something over, and something just vibrant Sam: yes. Yes, there was a vibrator. Yes, that's right. The mum is using a vibrator while the band's Daniel (Pacco): Now did that happen when you guys were rehearsing? Sam: playing. Yes. But I will say honestly I was just Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, is there anything Sam: I was very jealous of the snacks because when you're playing in a band practice you're very Daniel (Pacco): I thought you were about to say the mum. Sam: yes, of course, obviously she's a MILF. no. No, but the snacks, my got Corey: There was a few MILFs in this movie actually. Daniel (Pacco): Man I love films. Sam: the snacks, Corey. Don't you I like I just like movies. Corey, do you remember how hungry you would get in the middle of band practice? Imagine having a mum that would just come and just hand them snacks. How beautiful would that have been? I know. I know. No. Corey: It would have been fantastic, but I don't think that ever happened. No. Sam: We used to get pizza a lot, but that's about it. You Daniel (Pacco): Could have got you guys pickles. Sam: tried, but we just weren't we just didn't want pickles for our pickles. Daniel (Pacco): I was talking about the pink ones, not the green ones. Anyway, moving on. Yeah, body. Sam: cheers. So first music video. So they get their first song up and running. and they somehow get a decent somewhat recording of it on the cassette tape. That was so this was obviously this is setting it in the eighties. I feel like that was the one thing that we used to have when we were playing a band was we would just r have recordings on our phone and that was we use like the voice memos. That was our rough demos. I wonder if there's still some Jackson you still have someone on your phone, Corey. Of rough demos. I don't know. Corey: I don't know, 'cause that would be on my old phone, so and I I don't know where that went. So probably not. Sam: I wonder, hey, I'll turn my phone off. I've got I'll have a look. We'll come back to this. Maybe I've got some old demos sitting there Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: we could find sitting, scroll back. Who knows? but yes, they got the demo, they give it to they give it to Rafina and she's like, you know what? I'm gonna be a model and yep, I'm gonna come along to the shot. What did you think of their first music video shoot? Daniel (Pacco): Come on, did it not just flash back to high school when we had just random vi we used to film a lot of shit all the time. yeah, even when you were in university you got us in films. Was that Sam: We did. I I actually found some of this the other day, Paco. I did, I did. But I was going through some old photos, Paco, and I found a video and I found one I think it was when we were doing a music video for Hey Joe, the song, and you were like kicking bins randomly. I've just got footage of you randomly kicking bins. I don't know. I have Daniel (Pacco): Was that ever put in the final? I I remember that, but shit. Sam: to find it, but I scrolled back way too far. Corey: I don't remember kicking bins. Daniel (Pacco): No, but I remember there was one. Sam: Yeah. And then we had a Corey: I don't think it would have been. Daniel (Pacco): You had one with Corey, and I just remember him holding a sign that was post-edited text saying I love you or something like that. Why don't you put that on the side? it's so I'm gonna see them again. Sam: Very love actually. Yeah. brings back some beautiful memories. God, we'll have to I'll I'll we'll have to find some of these beautiful exclusive shots of us back in our high school days. I'm sure they're sitting there somewhere. I've got them in a hard drive sitting around. I've just yeah. I'll I'll find them. It'll be a great time. But yes, it I think the quality was probably reflective of the eighties Sing Street films as well, because we were Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, but but the quality and just Sam: I think yeah. Shaky cameras, the quality is terrible. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, absolutely amateur rookie vibe. I don't Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): know. It just got me going, Shit, I remember doing stuff like this. And then they had Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): this like y even in that scene you had people trying to fight for the screen time, I forgot the black fellow's name. Sorry for those words, but you did label him as that. and he's Sam: piano player. Daniel (Pacco): And as soon as the video starts, he's trying to pull it in, trying to get in the frame, just get all the attention. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): And then there's even a scene, he's holding it and he's just playing it. He's like, Yeah, I want to get it. I don't know about you guys, but I remember Sam: loving the piano. Daniel (Pacco): filming with beeps and some people would love to just jump in and just be like, start up a show and all that but it's just how it was edited. Sam: Yeah. I wanna do something yeah. The camera attention horse. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah, exactly. But at the end and they zoom in on the guy with the fangs and I'm just like, fuck, man. I just think it's Sam: Yeah. I love how they sh she's like, you guys should be wearing makeup, this is a very important thing to do and they're like then this is like this the extreme bloody it's like straight Corey: Mm. Sam: at a thriller. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: I thought yeah, Rafina made that whole music video happen 'cause she's like, All right, you gotta wear makeup and Yeah. Yep. Hm. Sam: Yeah. yeah, she knew what she was doing. The vibe. Yeah, she had the vibe going. Absolutely. Daniel (Pacco): Mm. She had a some sort of direction going on. So that would have been lots without Sam: Yeah, bless her. Yeah. And and Daniel (Pacco): her, but Sam: and what did we think of the actual song? like to hang I Corey: Quite a few songs. Sam: yeah, hang on, I had it. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, I actually liked them all. There was one that definitely stood out, Corey: I think I loved yeah, that one with the music video and then the last one. Daniel (Pacco): one that they did in the gym stadium was pretty good as well. So Corey: The slow one? Sam: yes. drive it like you stole it. Yeah. Here we go. So where Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, that one. I thought that was catchy. Sam: the riddle of the model. That's right. That's the one we're we're talking. Corey: Mm. Daniel (Pacco): So on yeah. Sam: The riddle of the model. I don't know. For some reason the way they said model just irked me a little bit. The model. it just Yeah, the the the accent, the twang. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah, I I see what you're at, but that's the Duran Duran vibe, that's what I was hearing. But do you reckon they went from futurist band and their song went punky in some direction and saying, Where are you going? Yeah. Sam: Yeah. I guess it is the mid eighties the mid eighties, so you gotta think, what the futurists what futurist was then versus what futurist is now, of course, is very different because, the eighty five's very different to to now in terms of time frame. But Daniel (Pacco): Just a bit. Sam: yeah. But I thought it was a yeah, I it was a I I think honestly all the songs in this film are just a fun time to listen to. You have a good bop on it. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): there were. There were, no doubt. But although that riddle of the model, the whole Chinese rhythm at the end they're di I'm thinking, why? Why did you throw that in? It was actually good. Sam: Yeah, the the Asian influence. Yeah. Speaking of yeah Yeah, it's like they're like Huh? And it's like but they based their Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, it's like Sam: entire video clip of having an Asian influence on it. Just as this I guess when you think about it, that is that that sound that is probably the only thing they would probably know much about Asian culture in in in in mid eighties Dublin. where else are you gonna learn about Asian culture? Chinese culture. Exactly, you can't just pop out to Thailand or anything. Did you did you watch this Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, right. Yeah. I I just personally thought that ruined the song at the end. Yeah. Corey: It was a bit random. Sam: film Paco in Thailand? Daniel (Pacco): I watched it on the flight going to Thailand, so yeah. Yeah. Turn it down, turn it down. No, I Sam: there we go. We're like, God, no one listen to this. Daniel (Pacco): I I thoroughly enjoyed it through and through, man. Had me smiling all the way. Yeah. Sam: Yeah. I'm glad I'm glad. So I feel like we're probably slowly beaten to it, but let's let's pick up the pace a little bit. So, she he gets a nickname, he's called Cosmo now. I think he has a lot of changing kind has a lot of changing looks. We kinda montage through a bunch of different songs, bunch different types of bands and the all the influence from the punk influence to the it was all different types of looks and styles. Was there any sort of stood out to you guys? Any like you the makeup or the the the frosted tips, anything that you're like, that's that was my vibe there. Anything popped out to you guys? Corey: The frosted tips looked horrendous. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I thought I did, it looked like he just stuck his head in pain. Corey: Yeah. Sam: Yes. Corey: one thing I had which was they're in all those different cool outfits and stuff walking into school and I'm like, hang on, his parents are so poor they take him to this school. Where's he Sam: Yeah. Corey: where's he getting all these outfits from? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. This is the same guy that couldn't get black shoes. Sam: Driving like he stole it, mate. Yeah. I well I love that he Corey: Yeah, exactly. Sam: he he he just filled them in and turned them. I would that was my thought. I was like, if you really have to do it, just just mark the shoes up. Take it till you Daniel (Pacco): Exactly. Just fake it. Yeah. Sam: make it, guys. And then so then we meet Evan, who is Ralphina's off on and off again boyfriend, who just seems like a nice lad. he seems like a support. It's like, hey, this is my friend's sorry, my girlfriend's friend, this is a music, great. Great music, lad, he just seemed like a nice guy and they just kinda shot on him, didn't they? You see good vibes from Evan or what do you think? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah. Well Corey: You Daniel (Pacco): what was that comment? I think Corey can jump in here. I know he was passionate over it. Corey: I Sam: Yeah. Corey: was just gonna say he was a great guy 'cause he loved he was playing Phil Collins, so but yeah, the brother had a go at that. Sam: But no no one likes Phil Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: Collins, yeah. He's gonna know if you like Phil Collins, they're not sticking around. Yeah, I Corey: Yeah. Yeah, I disagree with that, but anyway. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: take as that happened as it there you go. Daniel (Pacco): See, I don't really listen to Phil Collins I was just gonna say look, I don't really listen to Phil Collins, but the Tarzan soundtrack, Disney one, that's Phil Collins all the way through, mate. Yeah, a hundred percent. Sam: new be in my heart. Yeah, I've been Corey: That's a banger. Sam: playing that a lot lately. Sierra's been listening to it as we just played like the Disney hits and it was came up Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: with that one and another one that pops up a lot is that life is a highway I will ride it all night long. Yeah, it's on cars. Yeah. Corey: Is that Disney? Is that cards? Yeah, okay. Yep. Daniel (Pacco): That's cars, yeah. Sam: It's a great time. So I'm like jumping around the Sierra's like, you buffoon So Daniel (Pacco): you're getting her to listen to Phil Collins. What are you raising her to be, man? It may be said otherwise. Sam: Yes. Yes. I know, I know, right? I'm a terrible father. So they decide to take the boat out and they go, well, no, actually no, they're shooting the w we probably should mention the one music video that they they film on the sort of the pier, I guess, and she decides to jump Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Sam: off the jump off the pier. Did you any of you guys I'm pretty sure that the piano player was in whiteface. Very uncomfortable to see. And I was like, is Corey: Mm. Sam: that dear. Rafina just jumps in the water and is Help, I can't swim. And he's Well, I better jump in. And then he's you know what? I'm gonna shmooch you right here. And the first thing he thinks about is what about Evan? He's like, You ruined it. Ruined the moment. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. You've ruined it. Sam: That was the signal. That was the signal. And they ruined it. Could it shoulda, coulda water? Corey: Well, as a young kid, he's gonna screw up here and there, so but he did really well up until that point. Sam: He was a boy, she Daniel (Pacco): Lesson learned. Sam: was a girl, can I make it any more obvious? Anyway. And then Daniel (Pacco): No, no, you can't. clearly. Shit. Sam: so then they decide to take the grandpa's boat out. And he's like, grandpa, grandpa's like says a boat's like an instrument. It needs to be played every so often, or it gets sad, which I think is fair enough, and I feel guilty not playing my guitars in the background, but anyway. Make me feel a little guilty here. But The boat is does not look safe and sound, right? To me? Doesn't look I would not be getting on that boat, would you? Corey: That looks cute. Daniel (Pacco): That was true, but not for the rocky seas getting to that next island. Come on. Maybe maybe a bit finchy. Sam: Well, this is true, yes. So they they get across to the island, have another big schmooch session, and then he's like, I've got you I've got they have this, beautiful moment. He doesn't mention the boyfriend this time, which is probably a good thing for him. And then he's like, Hey, this is the next, the next video and she's like, when is it? and he said, he says, you next Saturday. She's like and you just fit the ominous, ooh, you feel like you feel the tension, something's going wrong here. Yeah? No? Fair enough. Yes. Corey: Yeah. yeah, yeah, I Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, Corey: got it. I was like, she's off to London now, so she won't be there. And Daniel (Pacco): yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you don't Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Corey: I was like, just tell him but she's just quiet and yeah. Sam: Yeah. She's like, you know what? I'm gonna leave, so I'm just gonna let him schmooch me and see how it goes. And Corey: Yeah. Women. Daniel (Pacco): That was a bit I was gonna say, a bit of an awkward pause in that smooching moment, wasn't there? she'd say, I've had this and you wanna go again? Sam: yeah, it's like smoochie. yeah, that's right. Here. Corey: and it Yeah, he goes to eat the biscuit and then she eats one and then he goes to kiss her again and then she's like, I'm eating Yeah. Sam: finish the biscuit mate, you it's it's a pretty pretty simple thing. Daniel (Pacco): you never did swapsies? okay. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. Sam: I'm not gonna lie, I was really scared Paco was gonna mention another biscuit eating thing, yeah, so Daniel (Pacco): you sick puppy. Sam: I'm like, of course Paco would mention this, but then he doesn't. You surprise me every day, Paco. I didn't mention it, I Daniel (Pacco): You did, you sick fucking. Sam: don't even talk about I eat it. You're Corey: He Sam: eating biscuits, mate. Corey: Paco's on his best behavior in Thailand. Sam: Yes. No biscuits in Thailand. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No soggy biscuits for anyone. So yeah. Sam: So so then we kick into a bit of a back to the future inspired video. This is honestly probably one of my favorite parts of the film. It's just like the vibe of it. First of all, I feel like we've all been there where how demoralizing is the crowd where it's like, there's four people there and you're like, Anyway, thanks for coming out, guys. Thanks for shooting Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: with us. And four people there. But then his mind goes in I think it's such a cool vibe that the aesthetic of this whole shot is so cool with the and and this song is just a fucking bop, right? drive it like you stole it. Yeah. No, go. Daniel (Pacco): Hmm. it was really cool how his imagination just kicked in. yeah, sorry. But yeah, it was just when his imagination kicked in and how he interpreted us how everything would have been. I was just fuck. It would have been great, but again, you only got Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): half a dozen people coming here. Sam: Yeah. Corey: I loved yeah. I loved it when he's like, All right, it's gonna be yeah, back to the future, n fifties America dance in and then you Sam: But also, had Back to the Future come out at in eighty five? I think I'm pretty sure it came out in eighty five, right? Corey: Must have. Daniel (Pacco): no, are we talking the first, second or third? Which one was that one? Sam: Pretty sure, surely. The first one. The one in the fifties. Daniel (Pacco): That's one then, yeah. Corey: We've got to go back Sam: Release date. Corey: to the future. Sam: So ri it was released July third, nineteen eighty five. There we go. Ooh, let's see. Release date Dublin. Let's really let's see how we it was released in July the third, there we go. They got it before Australia. Ridiculous. I hate when that happens. Corey: rude. But I loved it like sh he's telling them how to dance and then you see them dancing and they're doing the most ridiculous, awkward Sam: Yeah. They're trying. Corey: dance. And I'm just like, Yeah, they've they've they've never seen how to dance before. Sam: Yeah. I don't think I could do much better, but they were trying, it was not a good look. Yeah. yes, yeah, the the this Corey: that was bad man even that's better like it Daniel (Pacco): Sh no, no, no. Sam: is how you dance. It's it's little fig, little little fish, big fish no, sorry, little fig, big fish cardboard box. That's that's that's how you Corey: Heard that one. Daniel (Pacco): No, no. I I I know this one where you go no. Sam: Yeah. That's all I know about the Yeah. Big fish, little pigs, cardboard box. There you go, that's one. There you Corey: nice. Sam: go. That's that's how you get the the dancing in the you just sway Corey: That's how you got the ladies. Sam: you know me. That's really what got Daniel (Pacco): yeah. Sam: it me. That's that's really how I'm engaged, is it's my dancing skills. That's absolutely right. Daniel (Pacco): Bit of background story. Sam was a bit of a ladies man back in high school, getting all the ticks. wait, I was joking. Okay. Sam: Ha ha ha ha ha I love when you have a joke in this podcast. God. There's Daniel (Pacco): Well Sam: nothing further from the truth, but yeah, sure. We can try. Daniel (Pacco): All right. Sam: God. the memories of high school. Daniel (Pacco): What was that leading song? Stay with me? But no, anyway, moving on. Hey, I was like your number one fan. I think you Sam: yeah. an inside reality classic. Daniel (Pacco): made me a groupier one year, but Sam: Let's let's just say roadie, but yeah, sure. That's a very different. Daniel (Pacco): sorry, sorry, Brighty, Brighty, Brighty. fuck. Corey: Yeah, those pickl those pickles came in handy. Sam: Yeah, exactly. Paco Paco became Daniel (Pacco): you thick twisted devil. Sam: the roadie that never did anything and couldn't work out how to turn on an amp. There you go. I think actually I I think Paco Daniel (Pacco): Let alone string a guitar. But we're not gonna talk about that. C three, yeah, that's what we're talking about. Sam: did come a lot to a lot of our gigs actually. When I think about it, you you you d apart from the one you missed 'cause you were walking there, but apart from that Daniel (Pacco): Well, that's what I was gonna throw in earlier when they were t filming the first movie the first music Sam: Mm. Daniel (Pacco): video and it reminded me straight away from high school when you were like, yeah, Pago knows how to f take photos, you'll be good with a video camera and then you give me the camera, I'm filming you guys playing like, Yep, yep, yep. And you were like, yeah, you'll know Sam: It's like, this is expand. Daniel (Pacco): when the solo's coming in. Just make it good. And I I swear I got distracted. Sam: Make it good. Daniel (Pacco): when impulsive thoughts come in. And I started filming Sam's bare feet because he was wearing just barefoot on the stage. Just zooming in on that. And I I swear it Sam: yeah, I that's right. I did yeah. Daniel (Pacco): was like a year later you came up to me and you were talking to the guy's like, yeah, if you ever want to a f someone to film your band, never get packer, he just fucking films Sam: I did that. Daniel (Pacco): your feet for the whole thing. Sam: He pack out with his foot fetish again. Corey: Ha ha. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, you gotta start up young, yeah. Sam: God. What a great time. Corey: Huh. Sam: So that's what threw me about this film, because I just assumed during all this these writing. I just assumed during all these writing songs and shooting videos, because we never shot any videos. they were playing gigs. And then they're like, no, we we haven't actually played a gig yet. And that what threw me. I was like, to me, that's the quintessential thing about being in a band is playing shows. Because I think we we were, remember when we started our band, we were very much like get it get six or seven songs together so we can go play a set go play a set somewhere. That's that's the goal. Get it out there, just play as many geeks as we could to get a name out there. And then we can record stuff and do stuff like that later. But yeah, they do it in the opposite way. They're like, we're gonna do all these tracks first and then decide to do a show. So that's a that's a lot of that's a lot of pressure going on there. Corey: felt like for us too it was a bit tricky doing rehearsals 'cause we were Sam: Mm. Corey: so far apart. Sam: Yeah. Corey: we had to and we didn't have car licenses and there was no public transport to each other. So it was hard to get and catch up and jam. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, hey dad, can you drop me off at quarry so we can practice music? yeah, right. can you just hey, can you drop me off here? I'll pick you up later. It was hard. Daniel (Pacco): us just gave Corey: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): up and just walked, Yeah, no, no, no. Sam: And just went to pickles. Corey: And you still walk and Daniel (Pacco): I was referring to when you guys had your band playing and all that in Emerald at the time. And you're like, yeah, yeah, Sam: yes. Daniel (Pacco): Paco said he'll be here. Well why is he 40 minutes late? it was ended Sam: S Daniel (Pacco): up being like a three and a half hour walk. Yeah. Yeah. yeah, yeah, that too. Sam: Well, you're getting those getting those steps in. so back back to Sing Street. I feel like one thing with so we we omitted from the the Back to the Future video set with drive it like you stood is one thing is Rafa this is where he kinda works out Raf Rafina's she's gone. She's gone to gone to England and he's a bit devastated. But for me, I actually quite not liked that this happened. But I feel like it it at this point I feel like For so much of this film, he spent it was like the band was a vessel for him to spend time with Ralphina. Whereas the rest of the blokes are just having a bloody good time being in a band. Daniel (Pacco): Mm-hmm. Sam: I I know we joke, but honestly, being in a band was probably one of the best things in my, late teens. I loved it. We had a great time. We just play playing gigs, doing silly things, just hanging out with your mates. it it's a fun time. And he just would spend this time with them with Ralphina. And then when she buggers off. It's you it's time for their gig and you can see him just embrace being in the band and just having a good time and for me I thought that's like that that that's the experience. That's being in the band for me. I don't know, what what did you guys think about? Corey: Yeah, I didn't pick up on that, but yeah, it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. He was definitely pretty infatuated on her. Sam: Mm. Corey: yeah. But mm. Daniel (Pacco): Hm. I can't say I had much bad knowledge. I remember that one time I Sam: Ha ha. Daniel (Pacco): just popped over with you guys. We had several drinks and we made legit a whole album in one evening. listening back on what we recorded, man, they were trash body. Yeah. Corey: Ha ha ha. Sam: That's it. It's the fun you have, it's maybe the friends along we made along the way. It was the experience. And just strumming Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Sam: the guitars and saying silly things. Is definitely yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Hm. But you notice in the that scene in the movie, you start to end up being friends with the bully in the end. This isn't anything. But yeah, it seems to me. Sam: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but Corey: Annual. Sam: Daniel, yes. Hey Daniel? Corey: I don't know. Sam: No, what was his name? Let's hang let's pull let's pull the name up, hang on. Let's be professional here, guys. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, fuck. Sam: His name was Barry. Of course it was. Hey Barry. I love when Daniel (Pacco): Praise bass. Corey: bags. Sam: way back in the film, but the first on the first video clip and he Barry walks past with his dad and dad's like he's like this is great lads. Yeah, good work. You know what? Barry when you do this, hey Barry, and he's like, fucking kill you. No, shut up, you won't. You'll enjoy that and you'll Real? Yeah. You're like, yeah. Corey: Yeah, slaps him across the face. I was like, that's why he's a bully at school. Sam: Yes, that's it. It's always it's always a bigger fish. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, because of all those on the two. They throw one of the F words Corey: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): in that scene as well, Nah, but I if I remember I think that Dan was like, it's just that Sam: Mm-hmm. Daniel (Pacco): faggot band that's going on over here and then Yeah. yeah. Then you you like you said, you had the whole apple falling from the tree vibe, Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Unlike Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): the father, bit of a dickhead. But no, I reckon he Sam: yeah. Daniel (Pacco): had a bit of a character arc later in the film when they just made him be his friend and then you found out he's not so bad after all, but yeah. Yeah, well Sam: Yeah. Yeah. They needed some muscle. See? That's what we did with you, Paco. Daniel (Pacco): Wait, what what sort of muscle? Tight asshole. Alright. Sam: So we get to the we get to the school dance and it's like the kind of the the the the climax of the film, the big show. and honestly, this yeah, this is a good time, they're playing a few songs. any any thoughts on the show at all from some musician professionals here? Corey: it started off really good, big Sam: Yeah. Corey: audience, big crowd. It was pretty intimidating Sam: Yeah. Corey: and I did think he'd handled it so well when people kept saying faggot or whatever, you know the Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Mm-hmm. Corey: stuff they were shouting in the crowd. So I th Sam: Yeah. Corey: thought he did pretty well with that. Sam: Yeah. yeah. w we were always pretty lucky that we never had that same vibe, but yeah, I f I feel like it's it's I Corey: That would have hurt. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, what a very Sam: I think it's such a daunting thing being up on stage and there's like this I remember the very first time we ever went and did a show and my heart is like you're like your heart is racing like no fucking tomorrow. But the second you start playing Is this weird, well, it it's like you are like the adrenaline kicks in, but it's just so much fun that you don't like you forget that you're playing I don't know, it's it's a weird the anticipation hits and then it's like it's just like go. It's like it's like the lights are out in a race car, you just go. There's no suddenly you're not nervous about it, suddenly you're just doing it because the muscle memory take kicks in. I think that's Corey: Mm. Sam: how it works, with with these guys, is that it's played so much that they're straight in, they're just having a bloody good time. And they're getting a good reception to it. Yeah, no no any any any thoughts? No Daniel (Pacco): Yes. Yeah, yeah, well I look I I've never played on stage. I can't really comment on there. I have done speeches Sam: Ha ha ha. Daniel (Pacco): here and there, but like you said, it's generally just muscle memory that kicks in. But I don't know, I kinda live off I'm not saying I live off it, but I I I do like that feeling when your heart feels like it's gonna explode like shit. Yeah. Yeah. Well hey, hey, hey, we'll get that all alone, Sam: Yes. Heart starts racing, pacemaker kicks in. Daniel (Pacco): mate. Okay. Okay. Sam: I I will tell you one one heart drop moment and I feel that we've experienced this, it happened in a couple of shows, is the crowd drop off. Nothing hurts more when you start with a crowd and then they just kinda start leaving. You're like, please don't leave. It's so painful. And it's yeah, and what do Daniel (Pacco): Please stop. Sam: you do? You're like you're like, Well, I can't stop the fucking song, but all right, I'll keep going. It's so awkward. Daniel (Pacco): look, it was bold of them to play a very slow song towards the end, but that Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): gives you a different audience again, so the guy said, bold move. But they came back at Sam: Exactly, we have a good slow song. Exactly. And he's like, fuck it. Daniel (Pacco): the end song, did they not? Or Yeah, it's a movie. Sam: This is true, yeah. The the the ending song was a absolute banger. Yeah, absolutely. I thought and they bring the house down and with their they like their fuck you to the to the priest as well. How much fun was that? Daniel (Pacco): No, it was fun, but you can imagine the shit that would have gone down after that. Yeah. Corey: Yeah. Sam: yes, absolutely. Corey: I really thought 'cause the Daniel (Pacco): believe after that. Corey: already you go. Daniel (Pacco): No, no, I was gonna jump to next scene, but you jump in. Corey: I was just gonna say, the whole start of the movie, that brother, father person is principal dude, he's very strong. He pushes him against the wall and you Sam: Yeah. Corey: wear black shoes, all that, get the makeup off. Sam: Father Baxter is his name, sorry. Corey: Yeah and yeah, and then Mungai at that gig, he punches someone and throws him out the door. And I really Sam: Yeah. Corey: thought it and then he he went up to them at the end, he's like, if you play one more song, otherwise there won't be a band for next semester or something. And Sam: Mm. Corey: I really thought he was gonna get up on stage and punch him and show that authority. But as soon as the they chucked on those masks, Sam: Yeah. Corey: he just he was out out of there. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): It's like majority rules. Yeah, yeah. No, definitely. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. But can we just talk about that scene a little bit? Just when the band was about to start, I think they were turning the lights on, the lights off, and one of the students just smacked it with a fire extinguisher. I who tough that in a school until it's it's like, anything goes back. well Sam: Yeah. It's a great school. It's a boy school, Paco, you expect? Corey: Yeah. As an eighties Irish boys school. Sam: Ha ha Daniel (Pacco): And we had weird stuff going on in our high school that if anyone remembers the phantom poop, but God. Was it you, Sam? Sam: Never forget. Never forget. No, ca couldn't poo on command like that. That's that's really impressive. I didn't drink coffee Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: then, so I would be really struggling. Daniel (Pacco): All right. after that scene they end up running off with what's her name? I keep calling her Ribina. Sam: Yeah, so yeah. Ral Ralphina Ribina. Corey: Rabina? Sam: Ralphina Ribina. But she does rock up at the end of the the end of the show as well. Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Mm. Sam: we actually we didn't really mention, but there is a a a reconciliation or she comes back and he meets up with her. I feel like that it goes really awkwardly 'cause he she's kinda like, yeah, we're we're all good now and he's like, he's a bit like Yeah, you had your chance. I wanna go Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, but even before then, he's like, no, I'm not her, I'm just her younger sister. It's like, Yeah, f off, buddy. I was like, fuck, what's going on? Sam: Yeah, a bit weird. Yeah. Corey: Mm. Sam: Yeah. So I like that, it's he was like, you what? I'm gonna do my thing, I wanna do the band thing, and I really like it. Daniel (Pacco): Mm-hmm. Sam: But then obviously she rocks up at the sh at the concert and it's like everything is amazing again. And they fall in love forever. Yeah l yeah, Daniel (Pacco): Sound away into the subject, yeah. Corey: Happy ending. Sam: well, apart from the sunset, but look, surely they could have just scrammed together a little bit of cash to get on that that ferry, right? they really need to take the boat. That can't be a safe boat to travel all the way to England. Daniel (Pacco): Well look, I I they were changing outfits every other day or week and depending on the time. Yeah, you can't afford a fucking Sam: This is true. Yeah. Sell some outfits, mate. Daniel (Pacco): ticket though, you're putting your life on the line for this boat trip. man. Sam: Yeah. Yeah, don't you have to pay to dock the ship as well if you go? I don't know much about Corey: Yeah. Sam: eighties in in docking there in Daniel (Pacco): Can't say Doc and Mate, come on, you sick. We're watching the same movie. Sam: I I don't I don't know about it. Ha ha. Corey: Blow straight. Daniel (Pacco): What Sam: Single straight. sorry, I don't know anything about parking your boat in England at all. Daniel (Pacco): Okay. Sam: Basted not docking in England, God, I'm sure. Daniel (Pacco): If anyone doesn't know what docking is, it's kinda like Corey: Yeah. Sam: It's when you park your boat at a dock. Daniel (Pacco): Anyway, yeah. Sam: what what do we think of the ending? So yeah, and it ends and it just they just they literally sail off into the murky, cloudy sunset, heading to England. 'Cause it's pretty easy to get a a record deal, if you just go over there. If you just go to England. Should be fine. Corey: I liked Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: it. It was very their goals and ambitions and the brothers like, Yep, go for it 'cause he never went for his goals and he became just a dropbeat, yeah, weed smoking person at home. So he's like, the brother Sam: Hmm. Yeah. Very supportive brother. Yeah. Corey: can go off and pursue them. So yeah, I like that. Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Sam: Yeah, exactly. Corey: And I like to you didn't know if they would make it or not. and it Yeah, yeah, in that 'cause yeah, it was pretty Daniel (Pacco): whether they survive or not, on that. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Corey: Pretty rocky those waves. Daniel (Pacco): But if we're gonna talk about the brother though, look when I started the film, I just Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): thought it was a washed up and in a high school dropout, but it but I didn't realise how much of a a a soul he had in the film. You know what I mean? when he the he had that whole scene when the he was like, I wanted to be somebody was like, like what? And then they had a bit of a fight going on. Sam: Are you saying he could have been a contender? Daniel (Pacco): I could have been somebody. But no, I know, but Sam: Ha ha ha. Daniel (Pacco): when he kinda scoffs him off with like and stops off Brenda with the, white and man, it was kinda like a punch in the nuts that scene and then he broke out saying, Look, Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I was once I believe he said he was like a jet engine or something like that, but it didn't go anywhere and now he kinda passed his younger brother to go that way. Kinda makes you feel sorry for the the brother in that scene. I don't know, I thought it was very heartwarming in a way. yeah, that scene was sad, but when it came to the end when he's sending his brother off to almost death with that ocean, but yeah, no, I just thought Sam: Yeah. It was a very slow burn from his character to his big freak out. And then Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Sam: 'cause I when I think when I first saw it, I like, Well, that felt a bit out of place. But then you think about it, you're like, no, that whole film, he doesn't really leave the house. he's clearly in a state. It's it's har it Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Sam: sometimes a little bit hard to miss. And it's almost like a good metaphor for when people are in that kind of state. It's like, well you don't know it's not always a big I'm having a shit time. It's like no, they sometimes they're just quiet and aren't doing much and aren't saying much and then suddenly they have an outburst and you're like, well, well they're signs Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, and that break open Yeah, there it's like, Holy shit, this is actually happening and it's like a story in the background Sam: Hmm. Daniel (Pacco): that you're not picking up. But I just thought it was a nice touch to the film. But the thing that I wish they elaborate on when they apologize at the steps of the front of the house and he's he's what's his name? Connor says something along the lines, Yeah, look, I can let you play a solo at my next gig or something, but I kinda wish Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): that was played on. I wanted to see the sky shred but I didn't Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Corey: 'Cause he said like he was like, Yeah, definitely, I'll go and I'll definitely do it and I w I was expecting him the same to be up on their yeah, shred in a solo and that, but he didn't even Sam: Yeah. Corey: show up. I was a bit disappointed. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: Yeah. See I I kinda like that it wasn't a happy ending though, in a way. it's not like, they became rich and famous, the brother joined the band and and they got married. it's it's not it's not that kind of film in the way. it's like the the story ends most small bands like this that they just fade out whether someone leaves or goes out the way. There's no there's no kind of they made it moment in the way. It's not like, the world they're suddenly the biggest band of the world, yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, it's it's like a a segment of a bigger story from what I that's how I see it. I do part of Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): me wants a sequel out of I I thoroughly enjoyed it, like I said. But I just I want a sequel, but at the same time I like that mystery, what's gonna happen? Are they Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): gonna die in the ocean? Are they gonna make big bucks, Yeah. Sam: Yeah. The the short film sequel is just they they died in the ocean. The c has that foreclosure? Corey: I actually I was a bit curious about that as well, so I researched. I'm not sure if you Sam: Yeah. Corey: found out too, Sam, but Sam: No. Corey: yeah the director said I wish I'd changed the ending slightly. Sam: okay. Corey: so it was basically the same, but what he wanted it to do was on is it MTV? Yeah, or Rage, how you got Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Corey: your music video and the song title. An artist comes up in text at the bottom. So Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Corey: he wanted the text to come up at the bottom of their bands and a song. And the song Sam: Mm. Yeah. Corey: starts playing and it's like their music video is them on the the boat going to London. So to imply happy ending, they made it over there. They Sam: They made it? okay. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: got a record label and and all that. So Sam: Yeah. Corey: But then he did say something. I don't know, he me he it got a bit wishy-washy. He Sam: Yeah. Corey: was saying it was as a kid teenager, you're got these ambitions and dreams and but you got all these setbacks and the waves of the setbacks Sam: Mm. Corey: hidden you and I can't remember what exactly you said, but it was as though they weren't gonna make it across the channel. So yeah, I'm not sure. Open to interpretation, which I like. Sam: Yeah. I don't know. I guess it's like you said, Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Yeah. Sam: yeah. Exactly. You can kinda pick it and and in and however you feel the ending is is kinda how it ends. Yeah. So what what do you Daniel (Pacco): Mm-hmm. Corey: Hmm. Yeah. Sam: do you think they made it or not made it? What do you think? What are you hoping in your heart? Corey: Happy ending always. Sam: Happy ending? Paco? Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. I'll say happy ending. I I just wish I could be able to see it. That's all. Yeah. Sam: Yes, yeah. No, Corey: Yeah. Sam: I'd I if they made a s a Sing Street sequel, I'd be down for it. Absolutely. But I I Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, Sam: feel like the story it's less interesting if they make it. I guess it it's part of their Daniel (Pacco): Mm-hmm. Sam: little microcosm of their early years in high school. And and again, maybe it's why I really love this film because I can see it in a similar way for us that yeah, I said, you have this small burst of a great experience playing music with some musicians in your early early teens and then it just ends. It just fades and it doesn't there's no record label, there's no big band break up, it's just you just kinda stop playing and Daniel (Pacco): It's just Sam: The text stop coming through, yeah. Yeah. You're exactly right. Exactly. Yeah. So I think i for me Daniel (Pacco): a segment of life really. It's just a chapter and that's w works in its own way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sam: it's a yeah, I I hope for a happy ending, but it the realistic ending still feels satisfying to me in that way. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, as Corey said, it's open for interpretation for the viewer. So yeah, I I I like how they kinda Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): ended it like that too. It just made you kept thinking what's gonna happen, but yeah. Sam: Yeah. so any anything extra I wanna chat about this one. I feel like we've talked about a lot of this I'm not sure but I I don't know, is anything else you guys want to Yeah Daniel (Pacco): We mainly reflected on our high school, but I was gonna say, did you guys have any first impressions of this movie? I loved it, fuck man. I thought it was great, that false Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): sense of nostalgia of the eighties, but it just reflected with high school in my opinion, the bands Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): forming or friends forming, depends how you got I I really just don't know how I s miss this movie. I I've seen movies like Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): School of Rock, Tenacious Sam: Well I Daniel (Pacco): D, Beginigan, name a few, and saying, Where did this come from? And then you suddenly bring it up. I'm like, Yeah, twenty sixteen I believe. Sam: Yeah. This one yeah. This one I remember when it came out and it was a very small release in Australia. It was on only limited screens. I was working at the cinema at the time and the only reason I really knew about it was I'd gone in and and checked the cinema while it was playing and I was like, that kinda looks fun. And the person I was working with was a museo as well. And we're like, there's a music this thing that looks kinda cool. It's an Irish thing, do I go watch it? And I think we watched it after work or something like that or the next day. It was very sp it wasn't even like a, a big release, let's go see this. It was basically, just a just a friend of mine were like, yeah, we'll go watch it. That sounds fun. And we and we both walked out and been like, that was fucking unreal, the whole thing and it was an amazing cinema experience when I remember watching it. And then but I again 'cause ten years ago and then I watched it again recently and I r and the the s the I think the the memory of it being a great film sat but the plot details and and how much I guess it was associated with it then versus now as well. It's like I've I'd forgotten how much I got out of it the first time. and it was yeah just as good the second time. Daniel (Pacco): You Corey, first impressions? Corey: Yeah, I'd never heard about it or seen it before. and I liked it. It was good. yeah. Yeah. yeah, there was a lot Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah. Corey: of there was a lot of moments that hit home with yeah, our school and yeah, certain and that starting a band and all that. but it was a few elements too that I didn't like. which was mainly just Sam: What didn't you like? Corey: Well, it was pro it was very realistic in the sense of in the eighties in Ireland it's very hard. Life was very hard back then and it felt very harsh and you had to be rough and tough. so I don't know, just the school vibe I was a bit like, it's a bit too too rough. And and just the hearing the the adults his parents have their whole divorce and all that but the fighting beforehand I'm just like, I I actually I was saying to Anita, we're like watching it 'cause they're I think it's when he him, his brother and sister are all in the room listening to music while their parents are fighting. Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Corey: and we were just like, let's just remember to never fight intensely in front of we never fight intensely like that, but never fight or argue in front of the kids. Cause it's like Daniel (Pacco): So yeah. Corey: I know I felt like I was a kid listening to those parents argue and I like, doesn't feel set all well. So yeah. Sam: Yeah. Brings you it's Yeah. I think Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah. Sam: that's something that I've since having kids is the same thing. It's just you're just so conscious of how you present yourself in front of sorry, not just yourself, but you present your relationship with Corey: Mm. Sam: with your partner in front of your child and you don't and it's not something I would have thought about beforehand, but I like, Yeah, f like I I don't wanna not that I'm an angry person or we argue by any means a lot, but You just you th you are so aware of it. And yeah, so bad parents fighting in front of their kids. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, but the fact that they still do it in front of their kids and they're like, Well, the oldest one's twenty odd, you think? Yeah, young adults like, Yep, here we go again. But Sam: Mm. And the kids are clearly like, Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): But no, I guess that's what like yeah, you say it's a negative part, but to me that's part of music making, You got the drama of the family, you got the headmaster at the school, you got the school you want to make to Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): me it ticks all the boxes if you want to make a solid album. So Yeah. Sam: Yeah. Yeah, it's the inspiration for for amazing music. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Yeah. Corey: That's so true. That's probably why we Sam: True. Corey: didn't go far, because, we had good lives and we were s steady families and we didn't have Exactly Sam: Yeah, weren't hell weren't traumatic enough. Yeah. That's it. We were just damn good musicians instead, damn it. All right. any other any other thoughts on on Sing Street at all? Corey: I've got one other thing. I Sam: Mm. Corey: swear. You know that sort of hot teacher, the blonde one, who comes up to him when he's drawing his band and she's like, what are you doing? You're in a band. Sam: Was she hot? Corey: Yeah. You don't think so? I thought she had that cool eighties hair and I was like, Sam: Yeah? Okay. Yeah. Hot for the eighties. Now that's a s now Daniel (Pacco): Well, for the eighties, yeah. Sam: that's a s that's an album name there. Hot for the eighties, Daniel (Pacco): he's got a kink. He's got a kink. Corey: Yeah. Sam: so you reckon? That's an album name right there. Daniel Paxton. Hot for the eighties. Daniel (Pacco): Hey why me? It was covering that fucking city. God damn it. Sam: Sorry. Sorry. Yes. Corey: But anyway, I swear she was at the end when they were playing and when Sam: Mm. Corey: when it got to that slow song and there was only a few people there, she was there Sam: Yeah. Corey: and she was dancing with a young ass guy and he was so young. I was like, is that his he looks like student level like youngness? And I was just like, Sam: Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. Corey: the teacher's got a got a got a thing for the for the young boys here. Sam: Hot for teacher. Corey: Yeah. No one I I know. But no one else noticed that. Sam: Bit of Van inspiration for Van Halen there. Daniel (Pacco): What are you? I didn't think of that, but I'm just thinking high school, wasn't there Sam: I don't think so, no, but Corey: No, no, okay. Daniel (Pacco): one of the teachers that ran off with a student? But anyway, back on the topic. Sam: I think it's happened multiple times at many schools, but yes. I believe it did happen at our school during our high school experience. Daniel (Pacco): That's what I was referring to. Sam: It it happened a few times at our at our school. Well, sorry, our Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: former school. We don't we no longer go to school. We finally graduated. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah, that was last year, right? Yeah. Corey: Just gotta finish one more exam and then I pass finally. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: God. All right. Daniel (Pacco): She's sending your high school quotes. Sam: So what do we rate this film Daniel (Pacco): I'll jump first. It Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): gave me so much a reflect background high school, the friends jumping over, just meeting Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): everyone, just overall the whole vibe. But I give it a five star. But I I just enjoyed it all the way through. Nah, nah, it it it really it really. I I just watching Corey: Whoa. Nice packo. Sam: Five, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): on the plane, I'm legit smiling all the way through, the whole first girl Sam: I love that. Daniel (Pacco): in life or something like that, and you just have that moment trying to impress somebody. Corey: Yeah. Sam: Five stars guys. come on, we gotta be excited about this. Corey: Yeah. Sam: Sorry. Corey: We need a Daniel (Pacco): There we go. Corey: confetti canon graphics coming out or something. Whenever someone says five stars. Sam: Yeah. P five stars. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Nah no if it was gonna be a four and a half Sam: Celebrate good times. Come on. Daniel (Pacco): or five stars, but no, no, I did enjoy it. I loved Sam: No Daniel (Pacco): the soundtrack all the way through. They w I don't know, I couldn't find a dull moment. And when it was a dull moment, it was just drama. So it had a story within a story. And then, Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): when and then they talk about Brendan's story in the background and how it ends there. it was just a lot to go. I'm definitely gonna give it a rewatch in another few weeks, but yeah, no, I loved it. I did love it. Sam: Yeah. another few weeks. Wow. Yeah. Will Corey: Wow. Sam: you show mind? This was Yeah. You think she'd enjoy it? Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Yeah, no, I do want her to watch it with me next time. I think she'll enjoy I might get the subtitles because of the Irish accent, but yeah. Yeah. Corey: Yeah. Sam: Yeah, it's fair. Yeah. No, I'm glad you loved it. I I I Daniel (Pacco): There you go. Yeah. Sam: gave it a four. It's been for me it's a solid four. I think there's a couple of small I could maybe push it to a four and a half, but I think yeah, it's ver it's a very fantastic film. just yeah, rewatchability and just the songs as well. if you're downloading songs from the soundtrack after as well and having a good listen, it's it's a good time. And I think we are very much the sorry. I say I think I think Corey: It was a good time. Sam: I think it's a fantastic film that that also includes a lot of nostalgia for for obviously for us who have personal experience in these side of things, but also it's just a great film. And a great story. So I feel even if you didn't have these memories of of it, you a high school I the Paco, Paco wasn't in the band, but he surely got some great memories from it. Daniel (Pacco): moments, roadie moments, you know what I mean. Sam: Ha ha ha ha. Corey: Cool. yeah. S same yeah, it was a trip down memory yeah, memory memory lane in some aspects. it was it was it was Daniel (Pacco): I cut that. Corey: good. I gave it a three stars. just I don't know, at the end I was like I liked it, I enjoyed it, but I probably wouldn't want to watch it again just for the facts of the harsh, rough and tough life that he grew up in and the family Sam: Yeah. Corey: dynamics of the parents. just Sam: Right. Corey: I don't know, just didn't settle well on me. So yeah. Sam: Okay. Yeah. I guess you're allowed to have an opinion. Yeah. Nah. Daniel (Pacco): Well, Mr. Poshboy over here, and his loving family. Not of all of us get that, dammit. All good. All good. Corey: Yeah. Sorry. Sam: Well, that concludes Geez this is a long one, but that concludes our chatting about Sing Street. Now the only thing to do now is to pick another film and I believe it is Paco's turn. Daniel (Pacco): Ooh. yeah, I've got to think of one now. Okay. Shit. that would be me. Sam: I think, am I is that correct? Yeah. Yeah, Paco. Corey: On the spot? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, ooh. Sam: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Corey: Thought I thought you would have had one picked already, bro. Daniel (Pacco): Nah, Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): nah I've been on a vibe of early eighties, nineties movies at the moment. So I'm gonna throw something in that kind of era. So I've Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): been talking about Nicolas Cage a lot, and I feel like I'm gonna have to find Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): a movie with it. This one, this is probably the first movie I've actually saw in the cinema. Now this is probably bad parenting on my folks, but let's just go in there. Con Air. Con Air. Has anyone seen that? Sam: Yeah, what have you got for us? Con Air Love that. Corey: Hmm. No. Sam: Alright. No, but I I should have. I feel like it's one of those films that I ev yeah. Daniel (Pacco): just don't take it seriously, but it is a lot of fun from what I remember. I just haven't seen it in maybe a decade. Sam: Yeah. All right. No, I'm all on for that. I love a bit of Nicolas Cage and yeah, that sounds like a great time. It's one of those ones that again, which is great about this podcast is that I've heard about it, I know it's a great film, and people have told me to watch it, but I've had no excuse to watch it. Now I have an excuse to watch it. Daniel (Pacco): Now, without spoiling it, I know you guys will love the action scenes when they someone just shreds Sam: Yep. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): a solo on the guitar when there's an action scene coming up. You'll just it's just you w you'll want a air guitar. But the overall plot, Sam: All right. Daniel (Pacco): prisoners on a plane, what could go on, But Sam: Alright, let's do it. Con Air 1997 Nicholas Cage. Yeah, baby. Daniel (Pacco): damn. Corey: Cain. Sam: Rock and roll. Daniel (Pacco): Enjoy. Sam: Alright guys. Well thanks again everyone for tuning in for quite a long episode of Pile of Mates. My name is Sam and is Corey and Paco with me right here and we will catch you next week. Bye. Daniel (Pacco): All right. See you next Tuesday. Corey: Bye.