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Fired Before She Was Hired: Meghan Markle’s Acting Role Reportedly Rescinded Over “Intense Backlash” · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Sunday, August twenty third.
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Speaker 2: Just days ago we had the big head scratching, surprising
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Speaker 2: but still exciting news Harry Megan heading back to the UK,
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Speaker 2: and then we heard Megan has a new acting gig.
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Speaker 2: There's an update already. This might not go well with that.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Concerns already
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Speaker 2: Rhodes about them moving back, how they would be received,
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Speaker 2: how the press would handle them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you had mentioned from the get go or I
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Speaker 3: was excited. I was looking at things through rose colored glasses,
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Speaker 3: I guess. And you were worried about Meghan Markle from
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Speaker 3: the beginning, and I have to admit just reading some
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Speaker 3: of the comments about her returning to acting, oh are horrific.
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Speaker 1: Really, you have some in front of you, guys.
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Speaker 3: Again, I can pull them up, Okay, come backlash like
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Speaker 3: that kind of thing, so books real.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the update here is that the gig we were
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Speaker 2: told she was reportedly getting, now we're being told reportedly
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Speaker 2: has already been pulled. We'll get into that more in
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Speaker 2: a second. But Rother, I wanted to stop because I
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Speaker 2: kept hearing these headlines that kept saying backlash, backlash, backlash,
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Speaker 2: and I don't do as deep as a die sometimes
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Speaker 2: on the comments from the public as you often do.
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Speaker 2: I don't even know where to find them sometimes. But
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Speaker 2: can you give me an idea of what kind of
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Speaker 2: stuff how this was being received, that she was going
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Speaker 2: to be in a show and acting again.
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Speaker 3: Yes, people are just awful and I'm relieved, thanks for
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Speaker 3: the good news.
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Speaker 4: This is about her not getting the job.
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Speaker 3: Reality is that she's infamous and that she has very
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Speaker 3: little range as an actor, so they're just going after her.
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Speaker 3: Then they say, this is really really tough.
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Speaker 4: But people are just saying that they would refuse.
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Speaker 3: To watch the show, boycott the show, that they would
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Speaker 3: make sure the ratings were as.
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Speaker 4: As low as possible.
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Speaker 3: People are just making fun of her and calling her
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Speaker 3: an actress like in her life that she's tried to put.
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Speaker 4: On like just it's mean, it's mean.
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Speaker 3: Not sure how she expected to be embraced by UK
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Speaker 3: viewers after she globally trashed their monarchy to improve her
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Speaker 3: Q score.
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Speaker 1: I just I.
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Speaker 3: Didn't realize how much people were just sarcastic and callous
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Speaker 3: about her.
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Speaker 1: That last one.
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Speaker 2: I can kind of understand, Okay, I mean, in all seriousness,
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Speaker 2: you were welcome into a family. I understand you had
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Speaker 2: your experience, but Robes, did you have to go blast
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Speaker 2: the family? I won't even talk shit about your dad
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Speaker 2: on his podcast because I need to get along with him,
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Speaker 2: right right, I mean just not mister Robot. I don't
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Speaker 2: have anything to say. I'm just saying the point there
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Speaker 2: is does she really think? And maybe this will take
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Speaker 2: more time, but Robes, this was self imposed exile. They ran,
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Speaker 2: they escaped from the UK, and Robes, they said some
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Speaker 2: stuff about the royal family.
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Speaker 1: Even if it's all true.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is as a family member and tough, and
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Speaker 2: what are we supposed to say? She has the right
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Speaker 2: to say and all this there is some hurt, hurt
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Speaker 2: feelings throwing the fact that she doesn't look like the
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Speaker 2: rest of them and she has a mountain to climb.
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Speaker 2: But that last comment, at least I would go okay,
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Speaker 2: I can actually see why some people are just completely
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Speaker 2: turned off.
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Speaker 3: And it's like, just from what I'm I'm reading, people
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Speaker 3: are it just seems unwilling to even reconsider what they
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Speaker 3: think about her. She has no grace, she looks so awkward,
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Speaker 3: she's out of place next to Harry. That kind of
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Speaker 3: sounds racist right to me in and of just outside.
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Speaker 4: I don't even think people realize so much why they
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Speaker 4: hate her. I mean, yes, you can point.
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Speaker 3: To this, but there's just this strange she has a
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Speaker 3: magnet for hate. I look, I don't feel I'm curious.
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Speaker 3: I understand why people are upset, but to blame her,
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Speaker 3: and to not even bring Harry into it, it's like
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Speaker 3: I think he gets a pass, like he's just this
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Speaker 3: love sick dummy who does whatever me and old Meghan
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Speaker 3: makes him do.
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Speaker 4: I hate that narrative as well.
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Speaker 1: But it goes it's easier to understand because he's our
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Speaker 1: guy in the UK. He's our guy. Look how he's
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Speaker 1: been poisoned, Look how.
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Speaker 2: He's been Right, she's the outsider who came in as
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Speaker 2: an outside outsider. Right, This is she's she's bringing. Are
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Speaker 2: the kids going to be black?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: Those are the kind of conversations she said was happening
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Speaker 2: in Buckingham Palace, for God's sakes.
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Speaker 3: And yet you have comments even after everybody knows all
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Speaker 3: of that. This one just says I have always disliked her?
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Speaker 4: Why?
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Speaker 1: And that's okay.
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Speaker 2: I mean, some people just aren't a cup of tea
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Speaker 2: I've just never gone on and written a comment necessarily
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Speaker 2: about it. But here we go that challenge. Ro So
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Speaker 2: when we heard they were moving back, we said, dear
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Speaker 2: Lord Jesus, why you're immediately excited? Oh my, Archie and
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Speaker 2: Lilla Beck get to hang out with Charlotte and the
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Speaker 2: cousins and all this. That's awesome.
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Speaker 1: I love the.
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Speaker 2: Possibility of a reconciliation with the UK royal family. Love it,
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Speaker 2: love it, love it.
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Speaker 4: I don't know why people are against it. I understand
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Speaker 4: there were hurt feelings. I am not.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a It might be an
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Speaker 3: impossible mountain to climb to imagine that William and Kate
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Speaker 3: would feel comfortable around them, knowing they write books and
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Speaker 3: tell interviews.
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Speaker 5: This is impossible because when you now have to you know,
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Speaker 5: because we have been not comparing this in any way,
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Speaker 5: but in a small, tiny way, we know what it's
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Speaker 5: like to not be able to trust people around you
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Speaker 5: because you know they have loose lips, because you know
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Speaker 5: that they will use something against you, perhaps if you
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Speaker 5: make them mad.
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Speaker 3: And I believe Harry more than Megan even has proven
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Speaker 3: that he's willing to do that. And so that's why
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Speaker 3: could you ever invite them in and feel comfortable, let
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Speaker 3: your guard down, tell them what you really think and feel.
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Speaker 1: You can know.
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Speaker 3: He wrote all the bad stuff that happened, So yes,
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Speaker 3: on that level it, I get it. But I'm still
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Speaker 3: rooting for the best possible scenario where they all can
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Speaker 3: at least tolerate each other and the kids who have
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Speaker 3: nothing to do with any of this have an opportunity
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Speaker 3: to have relationships.
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Speaker 2: Is the best possible scenario here is that all those
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Speaker 2: kids can hang out with Grandpa who's.
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Speaker 1: Not the great health.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and look, if.
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Speaker 2: You're the grandfather, excuse me, the grandchild of the King
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Speaker 2: of England, you should That is just a privilege and
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Speaker 2: opportunity that shouldn't be denied to kids.
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Speaker 1: I just I just is.
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Speaker 4: And look, whatever you think of Megan, I don't wish.
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Speaker 4: I don't. I really don't wish anyone a.
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Speaker 3: Terrible life for someone who has to continually pay for
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Speaker 3: something they did wrong. I hate that about our society
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Speaker 3: that that just makes us all feel better about ourselves
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Speaker 3: to say, shame, shame, shame. But the reality is I
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Speaker 3: would love for her to see to find an acting role,
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Speaker 3: to feel fulfilled, to have Harry feel like he's doing
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Speaker 3: what he loves and serving others in his charitable.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I hope that for them, So I guess
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Speaker 4: purpose sounds great. I'm a little.
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Speaker 3: Taken aback by just how people are rooting for their
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Speaker 3: continue pain and suffering.
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Speaker 1: That part I will never understand.
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Speaker 2: The part about some people still not being crazy about
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Speaker 2: these two.
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Speaker 1: I can understand call for.
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Speaker 3: A boycott of a show because she's on it, and
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Speaker 3: to wish for its ruin and its low ratings because
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Speaker 3: she's on it.
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Speaker 4: That is what I don't do. What did she do
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Speaker 4: to you?
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if that's the retalities or nation of
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Speaker 2: or nature of what social media has brought us. Now
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Speaker 2: I don't like somebody I don't even know, I can
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Speaker 2: start a campaign to actually impact that person and hurt
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Speaker 2: that person and cost them a job that I don't know.
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Speaker 1: We've given that power away.
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Speaker 2: We are very much largely out of jobs at ABC
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Speaker 2: because not because of something we did, but because of
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Speaker 2: how it was viewed in the public and how it
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Speaker 2: was being talked about to where companies got scared. This
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Speaker 2: and that's okay, we've experienced, this happened, Should it should permitted?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Yes, this was what day was it, babe? This was
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Speaker 1: just two days ago? What was it? She got the gig?
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Speaker 3: The news came out I think late Friday that she
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Speaker 3: got the gig.
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Speaker 4: It was like, yes, oh, one day she got the gig.
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Speaker 3: The next day there was such quote intense backlash.
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Speaker 4: It was reportedly okay.
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Speaker 2: So the gig was supposed to be a significant one
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Speaker 2: on a show called The Gentleman, which is on Netflix,
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Speaker 2: which is Guy Richie's show stars Theo James. It's been
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Speaker 2: on for now two seasons, but the second season hasn't
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Speaker 2: started yet. Robes supposed to premiere on September third. I
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Speaker 2: do believe the report was that she Megan Marco was
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Speaker 2: going to have a significant role in the third season,
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Speaker 2: which also hasn't even been announced yet. So this was
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Speaker 2: Robes initially started with bubbling up a little bit, but
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Speaker 2: then it became more and more real. Hollywood reporters quote,
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Speaker 2: Megan is in advanced discussions to join Guy Richie's The Gentleman. Okay,
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Speaker 2: roads a lot of people applaud it. This gives her
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Speaker 2: a purpose and this also if she has something to
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Speaker 2: do there. This was probably easier for her to say, okay,
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Speaker 2: Harry let's go back.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I was excited again. I'm shocked at how many people.
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Speaker 3: Felt the exact opposite, to the point that they created
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Speaker 3: a campaign of hate and it just canceled.
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Speaker 4: Culture just took over.
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Speaker 3: And I think the sad thing is we see these
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Speaker 3: companies respond and empower these I don't know if it's
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Speaker 3: the vocal minority. It sounds like maybe it was a
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Speaker 3: vocal majority. But look, I don't think the majority of
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Speaker 3: people right in and make comments and let their feelings
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Speaker 3: be known. I think the majority of people, I do believe,
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Speaker 3: are willing to give people a second chance.
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Speaker 4: But because the.
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Speaker 3: Folks who aren't like that, who are the vocal, who
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Speaker 3: will go on and just slander and attack and threaten
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Speaker 3: come companies, that they end up being wildly empowered by
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Speaker 3: those companies.
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Speaker 2: We will I'm not sure how much more we'll get
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Speaker 2: confirmed ropes on exactly what happened behind the scenes. But
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Speaker 2: this came to us initially the reports about her being
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Speaker 2: a part of this show, and I think it was
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Speaker 2: an Australian outlet, and then Tina Brown is the one
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Speaker 2: and a lot of people might know that name. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you could probably at this point she's a legendary royal
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Speaker 2: watcher and journalists.
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Speaker 1: In the UK and in the US ropes.
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Speaker 2: You don't become editor in chief of some of the
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Speaker 2: places she's been editor in chief and not have a
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Speaker 2: pretty stirling reputation.
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Speaker 4: That's fair to say. Yes, she's the former editor in
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Speaker 4: chief of Vanity Fair.
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Speaker 3: She actually revamped The New Yorker completely and co created
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Speaker 3: The Daily Beast.
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Speaker 4: Correct.
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Speaker 3: So yes, that is she has an imprint and has
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Speaker 3: influenced some of the biggest media publications in the world.
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Speaker 2: But that's why people listen, and that's why we're listening
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Speaker 2: now because she has now reported Robes that this offer
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Speaker 2: that Megan Marco got has been pulled. I didn't realize
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Speaker 2: it was Friday. We were only hearing this. Yes, that's
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Speaker 2: pretty quick.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I started seeing it late Friday and then and
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Speaker 3: then Tina Brown puts out this on Saturday. I learned
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Speaker 3: this morning that the casting of Megan Markle in season
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Speaker 3: three of Guy Ritchie's Netflix series The Gentleman has been withdrawn.
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Speaker 3: The backlash in the UK was so intense it became
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Speaker 3: untenable to go forward. This does not bode well for
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Speaker 3: Megan's acting comeback in the UK.
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Speaker 2: An acting comeback, who says she wanted to act in
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Speaker 2: the first place, because she told us otherwise at the
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Speaker 2: essays like we were sitting down at tea. But she
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Speaker 2: told Variety magazine back in twenty twenty two she is
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Speaker 2: quote done. I guess never say nuver, but my intention
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Speaker 2: is to absolutely not. It sounds like bro that hadn't
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Speaker 2: heard much about her possibly trying to dip a toe
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Speaker 2: back into acting. It seems like she was very much
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Speaker 2: into her lifestyle brand building that.
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Speaker 3: Yes, but things were unraveling with Netflix. They announced the
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Speaker 3: end of their deal with her lifestyle brand and they
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Speaker 3: made her show just a one off basically. And look,
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Speaker 3: I think you and I have said similar things that
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Speaker 3: we have no intention of going back into mainstream media,
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Speaker 3: but if the right offer came, we would absolutely consider it,
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Speaker 3: and we would absolutely potentially get back into broadcasting. But
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Speaker 3: right now we don't have any we're not seeking it out,
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Speaker 3: we're not looking to do it. But I think you
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Speaker 3: leave the door open, and that seems like what she did.
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Speaker 3: She I didn't realize this, but she's got a small
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Speaker 3: cameo role. She plays herself obviously, that's what a cameo
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Speaker 3: role is in this new comedy on Amazon, Close Personal Friends.
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Speaker 4: It stars Jack Quaid, Brie Larson. We don't have a
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Speaker 4: release date yet.
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Speaker 3: But I didn't even know she had done that, But
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Speaker 3: I guess that was reported a few months ago.
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Speaker 2: But it sounded like she just showed up and stood
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Speaker 2: there as the princess, and yes.
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Speaker 3: She's dipping her toe into it, but that was maybe
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Speaker 3: just that, you know, that was maybe a little crack
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Speaker 3: in the door, and then this would have been obviously
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Speaker 3: a much different, much bigger and really a prestigious role
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Speaker 3: that she would be taking off.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: This he was THEO James and the Monkey, right, We
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Speaker 2: love that movie. There's other stuff he's known for, but
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Speaker 2: that was the one that we are fans of. If
13:20
Speaker 2: you haven't seen it, he plays twin brothers. And there's
13:22
Speaker 2: a killer monkey toy monkey by the way, so check
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Speaker 2: out if you get a chance. Did you realize your
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Speaker 2: boy was in The Gentleman, the show on Netflix, Your
13:30
Speaker 2: boy Boy your favorite actor, John Carlo? Oh no, he
13:37
Speaker 2: has several episodes in that First Sea.
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Speaker 4: Okay, well we have to watch that. Maybe we just
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Speaker 4: have to watch.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't know. When you were talking about
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Speaker 2: it the other day, I said she didn't even mention it.
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Speaker 4: I didn't know obviously I would have mentioned.
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Speaker 2: That this was what does this do? What does this
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Speaker 2: mean for the move? Does it even matter?
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Speaker 1: Is this? I don't know how real was it.
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Speaker 2: To her in the first place, But no matter what
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Speaker 2: and how much of this was one hundred percent true
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Speaker 2: or not, this is an awful, awful way of start.
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Speaker 1: Robes.
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Speaker 2: Days after this announcement that you're even going back as
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Speaker 2: an announcement, but you got a new gig, and right
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Speaker 2: after there's an announcement that it was taken it was withdrawn?
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Speaker 3: Is the word's and people are celebrating that.
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Speaker 1: It's the fact.
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Speaker 4: Ew that's what I hate too, that's.
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Speaker 2: She's not even there yet and this is just a
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Speaker 2: big ugly and it's embarrassing. That doesn't feel well for her.
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Speaker 2: She actually feels like maybe she had a gig, even
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Speaker 2: if it's not true. God, these people feel that they
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Speaker 2: now think I've been humiliated again.
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Speaker 3: They think they've won and they've beaten me once again.
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Speaker 3: They're they're they're they're keeping me down where I belong.
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Speaker 3: That has to feel very overwhelming. No, I do I
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Speaker 3: do feel for her.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Robes, I feel for her now. In a way
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Speaker 2: that I would have to say I was fairly indifferent.
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Speaker 2: I loved their wedding, mainly because of the brother of
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Speaker 2: the North Carolina passed to the black guy.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, it was gorgeous, it was it's cool, it
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Speaker 1: was celebratory.
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Speaker 2: I love to see her mom and that Rolls Royce,
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Speaker 2: this black woman from Compton rolling around in the Queen's car.
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Speaker 2: I loved it, and I've been rooting for them, But Robes,
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Speaker 2: there haven't been a lot of headlines that make you
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Speaker 2: root for them because it's the way they complain.
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Speaker 1: I'm not getting onto them.
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Speaker 2: They have every right, but Robes, all the headlines were
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Speaker 2: they complained about this, They accused of this. He's suing
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Speaker 2: tabloids for that.
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Speaker 3: They've made a whole big victim like martyr.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it might not be true, baby, but it's
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Speaker 2: at least the impression, at least publicly is that.
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Speaker 1: But now it's too much.
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Speaker 2: It was my first thought when they were moving back
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Speaker 2: making baby, Oh no, what are they going to do
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Speaker 2: to this woman? She already talked about her mental health.
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Speaker 2: Is she not and wanting to leave in the first place,
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Speaker 2: even with the family. Then she said Kate was not
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Speaker 2: necessarily kind to her.
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Speaker 3: And people don't be saying bad things about Kate. This
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Speaker 3: woman survived cancer. She's an amazing mother, She's the picture
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Speaker 3: of perfection and everyone loves her. You cannot, she cannot.
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Speaker 3: It could all be true. You cannot. You cannot say
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Speaker 3: what she said.
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Speaker 1: We were sharing those statistics.
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Speaker 2: They do take polls on the favorability and popularity of
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Speaker 2: the Royals as a whole. List of all some cousins
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Speaker 2: in the middle, whatever, but top to bottom. The top
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Speaker 2: two are William and Kate. The bottom two are Megan
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Speaker 2: and Prince Andrew excuse me, Andrew, sorry.
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Speaker 4: Andrew formally known as Prince Andrew.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Robes, she's next to last in the bottom, and
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Speaker 2: Kate is next to the top. You can't go after
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Speaker 2: this woman that Robes. Kate could save her or tank
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Speaker 2: her if she wants to.
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Speaker 4: Kate could save her.
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Speaker 1: She could.
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Speaker 3: William and Kate are honestly the only two people who
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Speaker 3: could change the fate of Harry Man.
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Speaker 1: Is that gonna happen?
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Speaker 2: Read that book and you tell me, But stay here, folks,
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Speaker 2: when we come back. Yes, Tina Brown was the one
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Speaker 2: who told us all that the gig had been taken
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Speaker 2: now we're gonna read for you in just a second
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Speaker 2: her big exclusive announcement that Megan had gotten a job
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Speaker 2: in the first place. They here we continue on this Sunday,
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Speaker 2: August twenty third, is getting word that apparently the gig
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Speaker 2: that Megan Marco was getting to act has already been
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Speaker 2: pulled after public backlash in the UK.
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Speaker 1: Robes Tina Brown.
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Speaker 2: We discussed and we've if you've worked in this business
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Speaker 2: any number of years, you have come across Tina Brown. Yes,
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Speaker 2: of course we have, but she did ro She's made
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Speaker 2: the announcement today that the gig had been withdrawn, But
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to butt it up against the announcement
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Speaker 2: from yesterday that she had gotten the job.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the exclusive Meghan has a job exclamation points.
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Speaker 3: That was the time of the article, right, and she
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Speaker 3: said there has been a fire hose of explanations for
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Speaker 3: the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's bombshell return to England
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Speaker 3: after six years in the hellishly serene wilderness of Montecito.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of nice out there to me, but okay,
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Speaker 1: that's one way to put it.
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Speaker 4: Hellishly serene. I think it's gorgeous.
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Speaker 3: I'll live there any day, she goes on to write,
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Speaker 3: So here's this scoop about the Sussex Thunderbolt.
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Speaker 4: I can confirm Meghan has a job.
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Speaker 3: The identity of the show is not yet clear, but
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Speaker 3: it allows Harry at last to get her buy in
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Speaker 3: for this growing desire to get the hell out of
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Speaker 3: Paradise and go home to the world.
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Speaker 4: He understands.
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Speaker 1: I was hopeful, babe, I was too, but I was fearful.
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Speaker 1: I just didn't think it would start already.
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Speaker 3: I mean, and I just I think, like in their minds,
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Speaker 3: or in her mind, maybe even she thinks, maybe this
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Speaker 3: is a new start, a fresh start, we can repair damage,
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Speaker 3: we can get going. And before they even get there,
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Speaker 3: the not I don't even think hours passed. I mean,
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Speaker 3: was it a full twenty four hours before we got
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Speaker 3: the she has a job too? They've pulled the job.
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Speaker 3: It's just it's such a quick knee jerk reaction. I
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Speaker 3: actually we don't know what was going on in Netflix
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Speaker 3: or with the production, or why they made the call,
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Speaker 3: how this got leaked in the first place, because I
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Speaker 3: kept thinking, if it wasn't leaked, if she was already
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Speaker 3: on the set, like, let it just let's just see
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Speaker 3: what happens.
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Speaker 4: But we see this.
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Speaker 3: All the time, and we experience this personally, this rush
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Speaker 3: to quickly try to repair a situation by just yanking
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Speaker 3: somebody out and pulling the rug out from underneath them
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Speaker 3: and truly ruining their reputations in their lives because you're
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Speaker 3: so quick to react. Because some people are commenting, I
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Speaker 3: hate seeing that. It might be so much more complex
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Speaker 3: than that. But from the outside looking in, it feels
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Speaker 3: like that might be what happened because of the swiftness
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Speaker 3: of the about face, and it just that part of
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Speaker 3: it makes me sad. Give it a beat, Like you
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Speaker 3: don't have to make knee jerk reactions, and oftentimes when
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Speaker 3: you do, they're not the right ones.
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Speaker 1: How does she get in a room with Kate? Like?
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Speaker 2: What is that? Can they even interact? Is there any
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Speaker 2: possibility because some of the things that have been said
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Speaker 2: by Harry Megan, which can all be true, certainly they're right,
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Speaker 2: But is it for the sake of family stuff you
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Speaker 2: put out publicly to be hashed out rohab It's not
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Speaker 2: just in an interview. This stuff is like documented history
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Speaker 2: now in books that they've written.
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Speaker 3: Look, and I even if it's all true and let's
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Speaker 3: just operate under the presumption that it is everything Harry
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Speaker 3: wrote was true. Everything they've said to Oprah, everything they've
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Speaker 3: talked about publicly, all happened exactly the way they said
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Speaker 3: it did. I still think that they owe an apology
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Speaker 3: to the people who they publicly maligned, because I know
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Speaker 3: truth might protect you in a defamation suit, but it's
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Speaker 3: not going to protect you in a when it comes
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Speaker 3: to trust and rebuilding damaged relationships where one party feels betrayed.
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Speaker 3: If you have a beef, say it with me, But
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Speaker 3: to retaliate publicly takes things to a whole new level.
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Speaker 3: And I do think an apology has to be offered
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Speaker 3: for doing that in order for they don't have to,
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Speaker 3: But if they want a relationship with them, I feel
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Speaker 3: like that would have to be on the table.
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Speaker 1: Does that need to be public? Man? This is I
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Speaker 1: don't know, probes.
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Speaker 2: The stuff they talk They flat out called the family
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Speaker 2: racist and in how they were dealing with and need
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Speaker 2: to look behind the baby's ears to see if the
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Speaker 2: baby going to people that kind.
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Speaker 4: Of a thing, and Kate was like a mean girl.
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Speaker 2: Pro that's a how do you repair that? How do
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Speaker 2: you apologize for that? I didn't mean what I said,
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Speaker 2: or I shouldn't have said it, but it sounds like
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Speaker 2: they're standing by that thing. I don't know Robes how
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Speaker 2: this gets worked out, but that is key for me.
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Speaker 2: How can Kate and Megan Markle get in the same
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Speaker 2: room and it was Kate even would be open to it.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is tough. I hate it for Megan morcle.
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Speaker 1: I don't think any of these are bad people. Probably not.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because I was telling you Martha Stewart
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Speaker 3: had a big cover on People magazine and she was
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Speaker 3: specifically asked about Megan Markle and asked what Martha Stewart
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Speaker 3: felt about Megan stepping into your space with her own
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Speaker 3: cooking show. And I thought the way Martha put it,
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Speaker 3: like a lot of people made something of it, but
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Speaker 3: I think it was actually on point. She said, if
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Speaker 3: you're an actress, it's hard to then transition to a
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Speaker 3: princess and then from a princess into a homemaking guru
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Speaker 3: on a television show.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't sort of follow, so go from there.
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Speaker 3: She was just saying she's not surprised, perhaps by the
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Speaker 3: lack of success she found in that space because the
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Speaker 3: transitions she's trying to make are are really hard, and
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Speaker 3: it's hard to bring people along with you who are
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Speaker 3: trying to even those who are rooting for you, for
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Speaker 3: it to feel authentic, for it to not feel like
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Speaker 3: a money grab or a desperate attempt to try and
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Speaker 3: basically change the narrative without actually addressing what's the problem.
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Speaker 1: What was the order again, from a princess to to
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Speaker 1: what she said?
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Speaker 3: She said, if you're an actress, actress, it's then hard
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Speaker 3: to transition to a princess, and so, you know, I
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Speaker 3: agree with that. And then from a princess into a
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Speaker 3: homemaking guru on a television show.
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Speaker 4: Okay, it just doesn't feel authentic. I guess is part
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Speaker 4: of it. And she wasn't prepared for any of them.
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Speaker 3: I think that is the inference that, you know, how
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Speaker 3: can you prepare to be a princess if you've known
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Speaker 3: nothing about a royal life, You've known nothing about that
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Speaker 3: country's history or what it's like to be British, let
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Speaker 3: alone to be you know, in this world of aristocrats,
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Speaker 3: it's just a very different So, yeah, she was out
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Speaker 3: of her league and out of her comfort zone. And
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Speaker 3: then she tries to transition to something else that she
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Speaker 3: doesn't have any at least known experience or expertise in,
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Speaker 3: and she wants us to now say, oh, tell us
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Speaker 3: what to do, even though we don't really know what
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Speaker 3: your credentials are.
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Speaker 1: Was she ever adored.
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Speaker 2: In the UK, like very beginning, at the very beginning.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I remember that initial press conference when they when
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Speaker 3: they when she was smiling, she had the white coat
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Speaker 3: and they stood out in front of Kensington Palace and
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Speaker 3: they said they were engaged, and everybody was excited.
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Speaker 1: Oh I don't remember that, Oh I do, But she
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Speaker 1: did have moments.
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Speaker 2: Obviously race played into it and there could be some
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Speaker 2: elements of that, but I thought generally speaking.
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Speaker 1: She was She wasn't always just seen as a no
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Speaker 1: no in.
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Speaker 4: The early days.
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Speaker 3: I think people were excited at the romance and people
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Speaker 3: were kind of like, holy hell, he's he's going to
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Speaker 3: marry a divorce a who's black and American. It was
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Speaker 3: like the triple the opposite of a triple threat. She
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Speaker 3: had three strikes against her, and yet he loved her
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Speaker 3: and they did seem in love and happy, and yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think people were like, okay, okay, let's see what.
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Speaker 2: Happened to overcome those obvious. There is obvious differences and
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Speaker 2: challenges that are gonna come. I think there was like
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Speaker 2: not a forbidden love, but an unlikely one and unlikely
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Speaker 2: but there is one I ever seen before.
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Speaker 1: But you stop. I'm trying to come up with the
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Speaker 1: right word.
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Speaker 2: No, it was again almost forbidden, almost one of these
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Speaker 2: things you're not supposed This isn't supposed to work, and
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Speaker 2: we're gonna overcome all these challenges, even stuff from our family.
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Speaker 2: It made you almost root for Wow, this is real.
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Speaker 2: They are passionate and they want this thing. It was
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Speaker 2: that wedding. I was over the top. I was so
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Speaker 2: ready to rude for these two in every way, shape
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Speaker 2: and form, and then things just started to unravel. Does
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Speaker 2: she I was looking forward to there being a black princess.
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Speaker 2: I was, I really really want that.
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Speaker 4: Where it is one oh Megan?
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Speaker 3: Okay, she is technically a black princess and her daughter
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Speaker 3: Lilla bet. I mean, I haven't seen her face, but
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Speaker 3: she's got red soft curls.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's technically a black prince.
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Speaker 2: She's technically a black sweeart. She lives in southern California.
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Speaker 2: There are if I asked anyone from LA to name.
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Speaker 1: Royalty.
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Speaker 2: Halle Berry would be on the list they would name
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Speaker 2: we have royalty. That was part of some people are
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Speaker 2: talking about ropes. You're nothing to us in southern California.
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Speaker 2: You saint the UK, we got Tom Holland, we guys
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Speaker 2: in Deah, Okay. People just aren't generally impressed. You aren't
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Speaker 2: welcomed in that way.
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Speaker 3: You aren't.
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Speaker 4: You didn't earn it in a place of.
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Speaker 1: Superstars, right, they say that played into some of this.
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Speaker 1: You know yet out of here, we ain't being received here. Well,
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Speaker 1: now you go back to the UK, you're not being received.
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Speaker 1: Where is home for these people?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? And you know what, that's a tough thing when
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Speaker 3: you don't feel anchored anywhere and you don't feel welcome anywhere.
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Speaker 4: So my heart goes out to both of them, to
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Speaker 4: all four of them.
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Speaker 3: I hope they figure it out, because everyone should feel
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Speaker 3: welcome at home, wherever.
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Speaker 2: Home may be for them. But that is the updates
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Speaker 2: the gig that we were just told she got. We
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Speaker 2: were also just told she don't get no more because
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Speaker 2: people don't like Megan. Apparently with that, folks, I don't
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Speaker 2: want to know that niggave no people don't like Megan
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Speaker 2: We're rooting for you girl. Okay, we're absolutely rooting with
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Speaker 2: this night. All right with that, folks, we appreciate your listening.
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Speaker 1: I'm TJ. That's Robes. We'll talk to you