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Seahawks Recap, Patriots Preview · Steelers Country Weekly

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  Speaker 1: Today on Steelers Country Weekly, we talk all about the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers' loss thirty one seventeen at home to the Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna look ahead to the matchup in New England
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  Speaker 1: against the Patriots, and then we're gonna talk about what
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  Speaker 1: some of our favorite former Steelers have done in their
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  Speaker 1: post playing lives. I'm Nick Detulio and is always I'm
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  Speaker 1: joined by the world famous accountant Eric Vamin showten. Eric,
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  Speaker 1: how are you tonight?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not too bad, just hanging out, chilling in
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  Speaker 2: my basement.
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  Speaker 3: My air's still out. It's ninety degrees in.
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati, so basement is as cool.
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  Speaker 3: As I'm gonna get.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that. I've been in your shoes.
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  Speaker 1: Never fun, so did we.
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  Speaker 2: If anyone owns a house, the equity and the home
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  Speaker 2: pride ownership is great, but the paying for repairs is not.
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  Speaker 1: So Wait, wait as you like, so you can hear
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  Speaker 1: another voice out there with us, folks. I want to
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  Speaker 1: introduce my two year old daughter, Molly, who is staying
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  Speaker 1: up with us tonight and is insisting on sitting here
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  Speaker 1: and not listening when I say whispers, So I know
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  Speaker 1: she's got a lot to say. She heard my thoughts
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  Speaker 1: all about the Steelers game, and she has no sense
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  Speaker 1: of what's going on around her because she's just chatting away.
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  Speaker 1: So she probably could have returned to kick off better
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  Speaker 1: than some of our Steelers players could have this past week, though,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you that much. But anyway, Hey, hey, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'll put those headphones on while I tell people all
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  Speaker 1: about the Steelers. Okay, you gotta shush. Okay, okay, shush.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We're in for a real treat tonight. Folks know they're
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Okay, you're good. Yes, okay, can I
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  Speaker 1: talk now? Okay, thank you?
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Final score of the Steelers game was thirty one to seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: and frankly, there were there were two big plays that
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  Speaker 1: I think really set the tone and allowed the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: to pool away. We'll talk about those two plays as
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  Speaker 1: we go through the game itself, but really, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: the big story was once again again our defense just
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  Speaker 1: got gashed. So this was a home opener. We were
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  Speaker 1: supposed to see the Steelers really build on what happened
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  Speaker 1: last week, and I think for a good chunk of
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  Speaker 1: the game it actually played out more or less the
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  Speaker 1: same as the way the Jets game started to play
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  Speaker 1: out as very close. Both teams were moving. However, the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers did seem to get a little bit of an
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  Speaker 1: edge a certain point. I think they pulled away by
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  Speaker 1: ten and then we had a couple of big plays happen.
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  Speaker 1: There was an Aaron Rodgers red zone interception. Looks like
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  Speaker 1: Calvin Austin might have run the wrong route and tipped
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  Speaker 1: the ball up to the defense for a pick in
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  Speaker 1: the end zone. Additionally, there was a botched kickoff return
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  Speaker 1: by Caleb Johnson. Whether or not he touched the ball
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  Speaker 1: is kind of irrelevant because they kicked the ball into
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  Speaker 1: what I believe they called the landing zone. And long
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  Speaker 1: story short, a kickoff is a live ball, so someone's
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  Speaker 1: got to feel at it, and he did not. He
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  Speaker 1: just kind of let it sit there. Okay, he let
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  Speaker 1: it sit there. I don't know if he expected it
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  Speaker 1: was going to roll out of the back of the
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  Speaker 1: end zone or if he thought that it would just
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  Speaker 1: be a touchback if it went into the end zone.
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  Speaker 1: But the ball just dropped dead in the end zone
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  Speaker 1: and the Seahawks picked it up for an easy touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: That was pretty much the big difference in the game there.
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  Speaker 1: So Eric, let's go to you. What are some of
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  Speaker 1: your big takeaways from this game this past Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, you know, I think that, like from.
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  Speaker 3: A defense side of the ball, the run defense looked like.
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  Speaker 2: They were getting a little bit better, but I just
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  Speaker 2: felt like the defense, the secondary was playing very soft.
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  Speaker 2: I felt like Jalen Ramsey, he seemed to play well,
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  Speaker 2: he got an interception, he had some you know, big
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  Speaker 2: breakups stuff like that, but the rest of the defense
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  Speaker 2: felt very sluggish. You know, the Seahawks converted six out
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  Speaker 2: of fourteen third downs, but to me, I felt like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of those conversions were third and eight, third
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  Speaker 2: and fifteen.
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  Speaker 3: Those were moments that you're supposed to get off the
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  Speaker 3: feet old and flipped the field position, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought that from like a look some of
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  Speaker 2: the things like the kickoff, those are teachable moments.
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  Speaker 3: That can be fixed.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned over the last two games what
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  Speaker 2: we can fix about the defense because I just I
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  Speaker 2: don't see the progress.
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  Speaker 3: I don't see the improvement needed.
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  Speaker 2: And probably the most troubling to me is, like I know,
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  Speaker 2: we only had we had two sacks, which you know,
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  Speaker 2: the days of us maybe getting sixty or seventy.
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  Speaker 3: Sacks as a season may be over.
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  Speaker 2: But I didn't feel like we had the quite the
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  Speaker 2: pass rush that we needed either. So and look, the
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  Speaker 2: Steelers offense didn't play great. Aaron Rodgers he had the
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  Speaker 2: tipped interception that was not his fault, but you know
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  Speaker 2: his other interception was.
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  Speaker 3: That was a backbreaker.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Jalen Warrange that moment showed that he
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  Speaker 2: was explosive, especially in the receiving game.
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  Speaker 3: But overall, the running game.
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  Speaker 2: Was again pretty pretty much done. You know, three point
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  Speaker 2: four yards of carry, that's that's not going to get
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  Speaker 2: it done.
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  Speaker 3: I think last week we.
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  Speaker 2: Averaged less than three yards of carry, so probably averaging
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  Speaker 2: out it's.
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  Speaker 3: About three yards to carry for the whole.
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  Speaker 2: Entire season is not going to allow you to have balance.
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  Speaker 2: So what's going right for the Steelers? Chris Boswell, That's
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  Speaker 2: that's about all I can really say is going well
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  Speaker 2: for the Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of interested in the run game too,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm getting getting kind of tired of seeing Gainwell
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  Speaker 1: out there all the time. Yeah, So Jalen Warren, I
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  Speaker 1: think has earned at least the opportunity to be the
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  Speaker 1: every downback. If you try it, it doesn't work, fine,
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  Speaker 1: but at least I think he's deserved the opportunity. Additionally,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about Caleb Johnson. He was drafted in the
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  Speaker 1: third round and he was listed as being similar to
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  Speaker 1: Najie Harris. And my thought is, if you think he's
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  Speaker 1: like a good not Hey we're talking here, we're learning that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: moms upstairs, dad's right here trying to host award winning podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense to me that he's the
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  Speaker 1: one back there returning kicks. Like, why would you draft
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  Speaker 1: a running back in the third round to only use
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  Speaker 1: him in the special team situations if you think that
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  Speaker 1: he's got the value to be on the field at
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  Speaker 1: least somewhat maybe on third down or short yard situations.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, just the strategy seems kind of off
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  Speaker 1: to me, like they're supposed to be.
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  Speaker 2: I also, you know, like the thing with Caleb Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: which dude, I mean, he really.
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  Speaker 3: Should take a back seat. He hasn't done anything on
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  Speaker 3: his snaps on offense, and you know, he fumbled.
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  Speaker 2: A kickoff last week and then did it technically fumble
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  Speaker 2: it this week. But you know, schematically, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: he's a kick returner. I don't think he ever was
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  Speaker 2: a kick returner, So no, why are we putting him
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  Speaker 2: out there to be one. So I think that you
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  Speaker 2: could probably sum that up to also like coaching.
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  Speaker 3: Issues, and.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know where it starts, right Like,
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  Speaker 2: I think that Tomlin kind of needs to start pulling
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  Speaker 2: in the.
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  Speaker 3: Reins a little bit more. He needs to get more
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  Speaker 3: involved with defense.
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  Speaker 2: That that was what he became a head coach on
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  Speaker 2: was because he was a defensive coordinator. He's proven that
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  Speaker 2: he's had a game more oversight in years past when
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  Speaker 2: it's not there, and obviously offensively he's not.
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  Speaker 3: That's as Forte normally allows it for his coordinators. But
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  Speaker 3: I think he can at least say.
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  Speaker 2: We're we got to like run this ball and you know,
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  Speaker 2: the benchmark should be twenty five rushes in a game
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  Speaker 2: or something like that, because we've only run the ball
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  Speaker 2: forty times in the year, which the Jets did that
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  Speaker 2: against us in one game last week, so.
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  Speaker 3: Which the Jets also got black. So that makes us
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  Speaker 3: look worse.
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  Speaker 2: We made Darnold look good what you didn't in Week one,
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  Speaker 2: and we made the Jets look good in Week one
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  Speaker 2: and they looked horrible in Week two, So.
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  Speaker 3: Not much to say about us right now.
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  Speaker 1: No, and it bears repeating, but there is absolutely zero
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  Speaker 1: excuse for the defense to be putting out the kind
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  Speaker 1: of performances they have been when they're the highest paid
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  Speaker 1: unit in the league. It's appalling, and it's it's just
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  Speaker 1: flabbergasting to me, but it is what it is. I
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  Speaker 1: will say, I want the offensive line to start playing
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  Speaker 1: a little bit better. I think Rogers is going to
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  Speaker 1: get killed if this keeps happening. Maybe it'll be a
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  Speaker 1: couple games before they really start to gel, given that
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  Speaker 1: they are a pretty young unit and you've got a
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  Speaker 1: couple guys like Faltano that were basically robbed of their
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  Speaker 1: rookie year last year.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see. And I will say something that like
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  Speaker 3: could improve.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like I haven't seen it as like
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  Speaker 2: good teams attack the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 3: You do it with slants, you do it with tight
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  Speaker 3: end out like or en routes, and you do timing passes.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I haven't seen any.
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  Speaker 2: Fluid nature, No like up tempo, no like let's get this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, six yard pass, get a chunk right right?
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  Speaker 2: Every single time it's like this play action pass and
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  Speaker 2: or like Rogers is dropping back and he's taken you know,
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  Speaker 2: typically in the league. I think it's if you take
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  Speaker 2: more than three seconds, you can expect to be hit.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like, you know, Rogers holding the ball
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  Speaker 2: more than like I've been accustomed to him, and he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have enough ability to do that anymore, right, So
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  Speaker 2: now we need to adjust to it.
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  Speaker 3: So it was an a line issue, is a scheme issue?
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  Speaker 2: Is it Rogers realizing his age?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, there's there's something off there too.
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  Speaker 1: He did throw a dime though off his back foot
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  Speaker 1: the friar mouth and friar mouth just couldn't bring it in.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was that was frustrating. Yeah, you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about like that like forty yard pass, like yes, early
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  Speaker 2: on the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked like it was right on the money.
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  Speaker 1: He just couldn't pull it in. But to your point
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  Speaker 1: about Rogers, though, he can still sling it. I think
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned this last week too. He's still got a
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  Speaker 1: rocket there. But yeah, it sounds like we definitely need
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  Speaker 1: to be more strategic in how we're calling our plays
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  Speaker 1: and how we're using the receivers we do have. But no,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we kind of went through it all. But
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  Speaker 1: I think the story of the game is this was
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  Speaker 1: kind of the sum of our worst fears. It was, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we had this game against the Jets. It's week one.
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  Speaker 1: We don't really know who the Jets are. We don't
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  Speaker 1: really know who we are. There were some good things,
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  Speaker 1: some bad things, and maybe next week against Seattle, if
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  Speaker 1: we take care of business, we'll see some improvement. And frankly,
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  Speaker 1: we saw some stagnation followed by just another poor performance.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, you hope that you can go in
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  Speaker 1: and think that things will be taken care of in
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  Speaker 1: the next game against New England, but who knows. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about that next But for right now, was
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  Speaker 1: there anything else you wanted to mention about the Seattle
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks coming away with a victory in Pittsburgh this past weekend?
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  Speaker 3: Oh dear God, No, fair enough.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's move on. Steelers this week are going to
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  Speaker 1: be traveling to New England to play the Patriots. They
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  Speaker 1: are coached by Mike Vrabel, former Pittsburgh Steeler player, also
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  Speaker 1: a former Patriot player and former Tennessee Titans head coach,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for bringing me my mouse back, Mollie. All Right,
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  Speaker 1: this is another game. I think it's comparable to the
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  Speaker 1: Jets and even to the Seahawks. This is a game
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  Speaker 1: that on paper you think the Steelers should win. But okay,
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  Speaker 1: but frankly, the Steelers defensively just have not looked good.
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  Speaker 1: So I think there are some question marks about this game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it's it's going to be telling to see what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have anything else you want to say about
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers? What do you want to say? A okay,
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  Speaker 1: dynamite dropping. Look, I think we can spend all night
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  Speaker 1: talking about this game, or we can spend five minutes
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  Speaker 1: talking about this game. But the fact of the matter is,
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  Speaker 1: if the Steelers don't make some significant improvements on defense,
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  Speaker 1: they are quite literally going to be having the exact
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  Speaker 1: same struggles every week. And frankly, when they start playing
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  Speaker 1: the teams that we know are good, like the Bills,
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Ravens, it's gonna look like Wild Card
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  Speaker 1: Weekend as it has for the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're just throwing the mouse around. Okay, but no
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  Speaker 1: looking ahead to this game, Eric I mean, what are
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  Speaker 1: some of the key takeaways for you? Or is it
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  Speaker 1: really as simple as I'm looking at it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I get to this point every
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  Speaker 2: part of the season, but until I see improvement, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna be a negative nance.
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  Speaker 2: And look, when you, as you mentioned, is the highest
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  Speaker 2: paid defense in the league, and you're getting gashed two
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  Speaker 2: games in a row against at best mediocre offenses.
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  Speaker 3: That's concerning.
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  Speaker 2: And then also when we don't really have an offensive
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  Speaker 2: identity at this point and we're going up against I
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  Speaker 2: think Rabel's a really good coach.
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  Speaker 3: I think that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, in Tennessee, he really got the most out
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  Speaker 2: of that team. I think he's a culture starter, so
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  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna jump start New England.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I think New England's still getting their
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  Speaker 3: feet around him.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think he's instilled confidence in Drake May. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I just I don't know how I feel about this game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I know how I feel about it.
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  Speaker 2: I am definitely pessimistic. I don't think that we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: see the improvement that we needed to. We're still gonna
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  Speaker 2: be very frustrated in terms of what it looks like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, is it a blow l is it? I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure. I just don't think that the defense is
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  Speaker 2: really going to get their own, especially with the injuries
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  Speaker 2: that we've had, which you know, I think each team
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  Speaker 2: has injuries, but how you respond to it is telling
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  Speaker 2: about your team, and right now I think we have
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  Speaker 2: a coaching issue, and coaching is how you get your
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  Speaker 2: players to respond.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's a whole bunch of nothing that I
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  Speaker 3: just said. But at the end of the day, I'm
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  Speaker 3: made a lot of words.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say it's a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of nothing. I think that this is a game where
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  Speaker 1: it shouldn't really be about x's and o's. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we know that the Patriots are a team that are rebuilding.
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  Speaker 1: They've got stuff they need to do, They've got a
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  Speaker 1: very young quarterback, Go Color, They've got a very young quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And really what it comes down to is are we
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  Speaker 1: going to see the Steelers that we saw in weeks
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  Speaker 1: one and two, or are we going to and frankly,
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  Speaker 1: the last five weeks of last season, or are we
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  Speaker 1: going to see are we going to see a team
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  Speaker 1: that seems to know what they're doing. Look at Frankly,
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  Speaker 1: I think Vrabel's a great coach. I am still a
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  Speaker 1: little confused as to why Tennessee let him go. I
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  Speaker 1: think that was a really poor decision on their part.
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  Speaker 1: But their loss is the Patriots.
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  Speaker 3: Gain, so we.
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  Speaker 1: I think that eventually he will right the ship in
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  Speaker 1: New England, and I think they'll get back on track.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe not six super Bowls, but I think they'll be
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  Speaker 1: a competitive team again in the next year or two,
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  Speaker 1: if not sooner.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing we mentioned about coaching problems is the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers have the smallest staff in the league. I'd like
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  Speaker 1: to see them start spending more money on coaches, but
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's an off season discussion that we can have.
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  Speaker 1: But but no, this is a game. You are one, right, like,
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  Speaker 1: what are we What are you supposed to break it
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  Speaker 1: down on? We're two weeks in. The Steelers have so
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  Speaker 1: far just let anyone on the off on the other
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  Speaker 1: team's offenses just walk all over them offensively. We're trying
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  Speaker 1: to open things up. It just hasn't really happened yet.
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say it hasn't happened it We did have
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  Speaker 1: touchdown passes in the first week.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So I think how many losses we're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: through ten games.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking it was going to be rushing touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots have on Sunday. It sounds like ten gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a big day for the running backs in your
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  Speaker 1: fantasy leagues for the Patriots. So look that it is
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  Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, we don't have to waste
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about this game itself, frankly,
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  Speaker 1: because I've got someone in my ear trying to count
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  Speaker 1: to five and ten. And I know I've said it already,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll say it again. This should be a win
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  Speaker 1: for the Steelers if we do what we know they
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  Speaker 1: can do. I don't think that just waiting for Derek
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  Speaker 1: Harmon to come off the bench as a rookie is
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  Speaker 1: the answer on defense. That's some people seem to think.
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  Speaker 1: I personally believe that you can have I personally believe
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  Speaker 1: you should have great players, but if you don't have
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  Speaker 1: a good scheme, it's not gonna matter. So we got
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: to figure something out defensively. And I know that at
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the end of the year last year, Tomlin said big
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: changes were coming, and I haven't seen him yet. So
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: here we are, right. You can't just keep swapping out players.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: You've got to do something to have a good scheme
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: for them in good development. So let's not belabor the point.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I'll ask you, Eric, what is your prediction for this game?
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  Speaker 3: So the Patriots are still not that great, so I.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Don't think the blowouts in hand, but the loss is
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: definitely at hand.
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  Speaker 3: I don't feel good about our defense.
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  Speaker 2: To me, that's the shakiest thing about this team right now, sad.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go thirty one to.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty thirty one to twenty Patriots. Yeah, all right, So
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you think the Steelers are gonna give up thirty points
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  Speaker 1: for the third week in.
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  Speaker 3: A row and prove me wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kinda with you. I am going to hop on
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the Eric vanman Schutten bandwagon of pessimists. I'm gonna also
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: give the Patriots thirty, but I'm gonna make it thirty
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to twenty four. So well, we'll be very close in
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  Speaker 1: our scores. I think the Patriots will get exactly to thirty,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and I think you and me are gonna be wallowing
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: in our sorrow. And the other interesting thing too that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about, and not to be completely doom
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  Speaker 1: and gloom, but since we are, I am hopping on
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  Speaker 1: your bandwagon here. Remember when the Remember when the discussion
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: was not necessarily from us, but just more so, like, hey,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter what happens this year. The goal
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: is to get a good quarterback in the draft. Well,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: tank for Arch isn't looking so good right now, is
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: it now?
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  Speaker 2: A lot of the quarterbacks, honestly, that were highly touted
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: aren't looking great. The Clemson quarterback, he's not looking fantastic.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: The South Carolina quarterback, their team's already I think lost.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: So like, yeah, the highly touted twenty six draft is.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe a whole bunch nothing. Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll be miserable about that when the time comes.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: But for now, let's let's stick to our week uhh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh is right, let's stick to our week three matchup
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: here the h I'll get that. So we mentioned Mike
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Rabel was the coach of the Patriots. He had been
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the coach of the Titans. In his playing career. He
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: was a Pittsburgh Steeler. I believe the Steelers drafted him,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and then after that he went on and played for
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, where he won a few Super Bowls in
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: their first run of three. So I thought it might
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: be a good idea to talk about some of the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: interesting careers that some of the Steelers players have had
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in their post playing career. So I'll let you go first. Well,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I try to quiet down a toddler here, Eric, do
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you have any what interesting post playing careers come to
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: mind when you think of former Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: You know, I did a lot of research on the topic.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I'm a.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Out of Coming out of that research, there was a
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: non recognizable name, but his name is John Malecky.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: So he was an offensive lineman for the Steelers.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: It looks like he became a woodworker and he works
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: with Joanna Gaines unfixed her upper So you know, I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: think it's just kind of interesting. Like, you know, there's
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of guys out there that go into coaching,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: they go into broadcasting, you know, they all start a
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: philanthropy that affects something football related. But I think it's
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: always neat when these guys, who they have hobbies outside
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: of just being a football player go on and go.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: The Dan Cuba, Like, you know, our athletes graduate from
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: something other than sports, you know, similar to that. I
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: think it's kind of interesting that he went on and
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: found his purpose in woodworking. I myself am not good
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: with woodworking. I took a woodworking shop and learned how
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to use the saw, and that's about as much of
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: my experience with woodworking is. But yeah, I thought it
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: was pretty neat.
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  Speaker 1: No, that is cool. I'm like, you accept them. Even
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: further back in woodworking, I can't even use the saw.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: So I was going to talk about our old pal,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Hines Ward. So he had quite an interesting post playing
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: career a podcast for a while, which was pretty neat.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I got a shout out on that once, which was
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: interesting too. And he had been I think doing some
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: work like as a corresponding on CNN and stuff too,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: but he eventually got into coaching. Yeah that's a bunch
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: of ladybugs on a flash card, thank you. And he's
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: actually been the wide receivers coach at Arizona State. And
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I wanted to mention that because obviously Arizona State had
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: that miracle run through the playoffs where they probably should
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: have beaten Texas in the playoff last year, didn't.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Get the chance.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: But I also mention it because it was interesting when
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Arizona State came to play our Cincinnati Bearcats. You got
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Hines ward Row in the field at Nippert Stadium, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: his old playing mate or teammate, Max Starks was the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: color commentator in the booth while he was coaching the game.
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  Speaker 1: So just kind of interesting to see how some of
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: these guys go through different routes and then how they'll
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: still end up crossing paths later on. So interesting to see.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Do you ever stop talking when I want you to?
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: No?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Is right there you go? So anyway, that that's what
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I thought was interesting in Hines's career. And then of course,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: seeing since we're talking about playing the Patriots, Mike Rabele
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: as well, he's more known for being a Patriot as
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, as he should be. But it is interesting
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to see a former player have that level of success
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: with other organizations as well. And be I would consider
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: one of the better coaches in the league for sure.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I mean he was very iconic with
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: his playing career, and then he had those runs that
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: he had.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, correct you off, I'm wrong.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: They got really close to beating the Ravens when the
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Ravens went to the Super Bowl against the Hardball bull I.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Think they.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I think they were pretty close to getting a Super
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Bowl appearance.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: You're talking about the Titans.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not sure if it came down to
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: like a late, you know, end of the game field
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: goal or something like that, but I'm pretty sure they
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: hung tight in that AFC Championship game.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they came close and they're Yeah, there's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: a fish on there. He's also responsible for his team
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: beating Tom Brady in his last game as a Patriot too,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. So it was probably whatever year that
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: was that you mentioned. That was the divisional game that
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: they had to that they had to win to get
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: to that AFC Championship game. So, yeah, the Titans were
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: very competitive. It was very surprising when they let him go.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: But that's just how the NFL is sometimes, right, It
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: can be ficklebeast. All right, Well, I think I'm just
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and say it's time for us to
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: wrap it up. We've got an interesting.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Two year old here.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the Patriots and we don't
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: want to rehash any more of that game against Seattle.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: But before we wrap it up, Eric, was there anything
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you wanted to mention before we uh say good night.
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  Speaker 3: I'll defer to your guest host.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Molly anything else you want to say? What do you
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: want to say? Well, there you have lots of mumbling
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: from a two year old, So all right, folks, that's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: going to do it for us. For the world famous
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: accountant Eric van Benschoten, I'm Nick de Tulio and this
• 30:26
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