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Joba & The Mouth 6-16-25 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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If it means the worldwide sports radio network.
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The Boston Red Sox sweep the Yankees and before nightfall
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trade Yankee killer Raphael Devers to the Giants for not so
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much whatsoever, but get the Giants to take on all of Devers
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contract with 250 million leftover the next nine years.
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The Oklahoma City Thunder even the NBA Finals up at 2 after
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winning game 4111104 in Indy. Tonight is the pivotal Game 5
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back in Oklahoma City. Will it be the league's Most
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Valuable Player or the league's allegedly most overrated player?
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Who comes through tonight? And Shohei Otani, in a surprise,
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is starting tonight. For the Dodgers, the Stanley Cup
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finals go to Game 6 tomorrow, and the Magic decide darkness is
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their ally. Trading for Bain tonight live
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without Errol the Fish Cash strikes back with a brand new
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episode of Jabba and the Mouth We.
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Believe the Mets are going? To give him a significant
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they're going to have a ton of money to spend, why not putting
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in one of the top three? Offensive players in the.
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League. We're going to be.
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Looking at Aaron. Judge and saying that he can't
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win the big game, Michael Jordan said.
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I played 82 games. You don't see the one doing
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that. A game where you got to go
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before I told you, Giant fans. And Saquon Barkley at.
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This Let's do it.
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You're listening to Jabba and the mouth.
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Mouth. Welcome, welcome, welcome,
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everybody to another episode of Jabba and the Mouth.
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I'm filling in here, Aaron Fishman filling in for the one
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and only Arrow marks on a cruise right now, but we're still here
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live with Speedy PD and Jabba Chamberlain on scene from Omaha,
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the College World Series. What's up boys?
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What's happening? What's going on guys?
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Well, tonight is a very special edition.
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Again, Errol is on vacation. He doesn't take many of them,
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but he trusts us enough to to do so.
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He's on a cruise. So I want to start off talking a
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little bit about cruises. Guys, if you are going to
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interested in calling in tonight before we get into any of that
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stuff, we're not going to do it through the phones.
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You have to get a link through Stream Yard, so please reach out
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on socials and text if you're trying to get involved into it
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and we'll have you guys contact back and forth in DMS and we'll
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try to get one of you on. Thank you as well, though our
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first comments are Sean Browning subscribing to our page as well.
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Yeah, we saw some comments. People want to have more
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callers. Well, it's just a little bit
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tricky. You know, we have, some of us
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are in upstate New York, some of us are out in Long Island.
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We got people in Nebraska. It's a little bit tricky to to
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also have a phone call and go through the system.
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So we'd like to try to do more of that going forward.
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Absolutely, for sure. So we welcome everybody that's
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coming in. Look, this is the the day after
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Father's Day. We're going to have a little bit
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of Father's Day talk in the middle of this episode.
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Tonight at 8:45, we have Frank Luna coming on.
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He is an Army veteran. He is working with the with the
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troops. He works with a bunch of guys.
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He's famously caught the home run ball.
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That was the first home run I believe of Andrew Velasquez when
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he was playing with the Yankees. Had that run in the Bronx.
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Bronx born boy, our guy Nathan bringing him on the show.
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We're excited to talk to him at 8:45 PM tonight.
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Lot of interesting stories we'll get to later, but first Jabba,
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how many cruises have you ever been on?
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I've actually never been on a cruise, so I've been on a few
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speedy. You go ever go on a cruise with
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your. Family I have not.
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Speedy, I don't. I think you would love a cruise.
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It's like you're in like an indoor mall and they have like
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places to party inside. They have casinos inside.
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They got all you can eat throughout the entire place and
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the everyone's mission is just to be hammered the entire time
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and sit out by the pool when it's nice out and dance and
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party when it's when it's dark. Out I've been on.
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I've been on a few boats I've been on.
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When I was in Maine back in 2022 I went whale watching and did a
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fishing boat. One of the other times when I
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was in 2013 and we actually encountered a bald eagle pretty
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close to us. But no, never been on a cruise.
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Bald eagle. Yeah, there's actually a bunch
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of bald eagles up by where I coach football by West Point.
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You see them sometimes driving up in the fall, which is really
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cool. The interns are are right on top
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of this in the chat. Errol doesn't drink yet.
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He's on the cruise right now. And I, I when I was 19, I went
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on a no booze cruise with my family.
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Do you think that's something a 19 year old just finished
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freshman year college is interested in doing?
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Doesn't seem like it. What was the circumstance?
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The circumstances it was, oh, we have a trip, let's go.
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We'll have, I think it was like Cozumel, Mexico, but as you just
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stop there for a day, you don't get to actually go to Cozumel.
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You don't get to experience much culture unless you do like these
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excursions. And we got to go to like Mayan
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ruins and it was really cool. But I didn't really appreciate
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it because I was 18 or 19 and all I want to do is party and
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I'm there with my parents and there was like nothing to do.
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My little brother, there were a bunch of little kids running
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around. He had a great time.
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I was talking to him about it at Father's Day.
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He came on over, We grilled up some food, some shish kebabs.
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I've got into big shish kebab kick recently.
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Marinate them and some teriyaki marinade I make myself.
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You get they always seem to come out good.
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You know, just some vegetables. Pineapple By the way, pineapple
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and teriyaki sauce. Match made in heaven.
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I don't know if you ever knew that, guys.
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Interesting. I will give a shout out to our
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intern Zach with the word of the day, Philosophobia.
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Yeah, What I Zach, why don't you turn your camera on just for a
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second? Because you got to tell us this
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word. I've never heard this before.
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I do. I have taught AP history and I
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thought I've seen pretty much everything in an essay.
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What? What's pronounced this and tell
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us what this is. So the last of phobia is a fear
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of very deep water. It stems from the movie Jaws
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because I'm terrified of sharks, which has nothing to do with
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deep water, but. So does Errol.
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Errol is also terrified of sharks, another reason why this
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is a crazy trip for him. Yeah, like I'm like, I find
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sharks so fascinating. I find any sea creature
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fascinating, but I won't go in the sea because I just, if I
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can't touch the bottom of something, I'm not going in it.
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I'm just not. I don't like it.
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Like I remember 2 summers ago I went out to the beach with my
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friends who surf and they wanted to go to the sandbar.
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And those of you who don't know what a sandbar is, it's
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basically like a pile of sand kind of far out in the water.
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And I didn't realize how far out it was.
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And I started swimming and I couldn't touch the bottom of the
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ocean. And I was freaking out.
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I was like hyperventilating. It was the worst song of my
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life. It was so terrifying.
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They have plenty of those here with the beaches on the South
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Shore, and I'm sure Nathan's experienced much of them in New
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Jersey as well. Yeah, it's.
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It's not fun. It's not fun.
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Java, you got any sandbar experiences?
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Some nice nice little bars out in the middle of nowhere.
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Not necessarily in the middle of nowhere, maybe some swim up bars
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at some hotels and resorts, but no, no sandbars.
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I'd I'd I'd love I swam with dolphins.
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I want to do, Speaking of you being scared of sharks, I want
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to do like a shark cage where you go down and like get to take
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pictures like that would be super, super cool.
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Jabba versus the Jaws. Yeah, I, I just, I just hope
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somehow it doesn't come on loose and they they can come get me.
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So it's like, but no, I love it. I remember I was a sophomore in
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college and, you know, we got to, I got snorkeling for the
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first time because being in Nebraska, you don't really get
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these oceans and stuff. So it's like, you know, our our
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our lakes are just fishing and and ripping lips.
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That's about all we do here. So I'll never forget.
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I learned what coral was real quick when I wasn't paying
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attention, and I went over it. No, that wasn't it.
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That wasn't it. That it's as sharp as like
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anything could be. Yeah, wasn't it?
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It's like knives of sandpaper almost.
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It was. So I went back-to-back years.
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I went as a player in college and I got drafted.
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And then I I played in winter league in Hawaii.
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And so when we were there my sophomore year, it was whale
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mating season. So we got to see like you could
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hear the noises under the water and then you could literally
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like then watch them jump and like.
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How? How does?
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Something that big jump out of the water like.
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How does that happen? There's definitely some
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scientific explanation to behind how they can get that much
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force, but I imagine once they start moving it's hard to stop
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that train. Java.
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Java. In the simplest of terms, it's
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evolution. Oh.
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Thanks Speedy, that helps. We are going to be without the
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sound board tonight, aren't we? It's going to definitely be a
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different. Field to bring Nathan in just to
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fill in his sounds. He can do them themselves.
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Yeah, Nathan is like a walking sound board.
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That is true. Guys, We're going to talk about
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a whole bunch of stuff tonight. Obviously Stanley Cup Finals
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Game 6 is tomorrow. Florida's up 32.
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We'll get to that later tonight. There was a wild NBA trade
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between the Magic and the Grizzlies for Desmond Bain,
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something around 5:00. First round picks were either
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traded or swapped in, including a pick this year and a very
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coveted pick next year, if I'm not mistaken.
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We are going to talk about Shohei a time before he starts
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tonight. He's going to be the opener, it
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looks like for the Dodgers as part of his rehab.
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He's going to be starting tonight and nobody thought we
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were going to see him until, you know, much closer to the All
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Star break. But most, most of us thought
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after the All Star break. So we're going to get into that
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and we're going to get right into some of our big stories
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right now. The Yankees were swept by the
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Red Sox this weekend. But I don't know if I've ever
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seen a situation as similar to this where the Red Sox trade a
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guy who's their best hitter after sweeping the first place
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team, getting within 6 1/2 games back and and yes, trade star I
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guess. Still third baseman,
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technically. Some hybrid deserts.
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To the San Francisco Giants. That's where we're starting
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tonight. So Devers to the Giants fan
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side, it's Robert Murray. Reports that the Red Sox have
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traded Raphael Devers to the Giants.
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The Red Sox get back left-handed pitcher Kyle Harrison, who's
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like a top prospect that really didn't show much his first year,
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his second year now relief pitcher Jordan Hicks who's tried
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to start, he was a closer, he went from Saint Louis.
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He ended up bouncing around a little bit himself.
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Outfield prospect James Tibbs, who's their 4th overall
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prospect, and rookie ball pitcher Jose The Giants will
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take on the remainder the entirety of Dever's contract,
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which has $250 million left on 1/4 of a billion dollars over
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the next nine years. ESP.
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NS Jeff Passan reports the Red Sox endeavors grew tired of each
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other in regards to Dever's wanting to stay at third base
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when the Red Sox wanted him to be the designated hitter,
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passing as at the Red Sox as Devers if he would move to first
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base after full time full time. After Tristan Cassis suffered a
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seizing ending injury earlier this year.
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Devers said no and this was the final straw in the relationship,
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but that the Red Sox are sitting at 37 and 36 right now. 6 1/2
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games back in the Ales, half a game back in the AL Wild card,
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the Giants themselves two games back of the Dodgers in the NL W,
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currently second NL wild card spot.
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Devers currently this year batting 27 929-O5OPS15 homers,
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58 RBIs. I guess they don't want to win.
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I guess they decided we don't want to have a good team this
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year. We want to bottom out as best we
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can. We don't want to spend the
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money. We want to get rid of all our
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bad contracts and we think we did it.
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We have the best farm system. We are ready to start over with
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these, with the great three guys they brought up Christian
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Campbell, Roman Anthony and Marcelo Mayer.
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It's hard to argue with that philosophy, except you just
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traded a guy who's when Clayton Kershaw heard this on the air
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when the right after he was traded, he said he's easily one
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of the top 10 hitters in all of baseball.
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He also started the year horrifically.
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Do you remember how bad his April was?
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Rafael Devers? We did a segment back.
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Didn't it go over over like 20 something?
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Yeah, at one stretch strikeouts to start the season.
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I'm pretty sure Goody mentioned it in his segment, yeah.
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We did a segment of like the people.
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It's the guys who had the worst stats in all of April and Devers
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was like one of the worst players in the league.
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The fact that his numbers are now 272 with a nine O 5 OPS that
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tells you just how good he's been since May 1st.
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You can argue he's a top five hitter in all of baseball since
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May 1st. He's been that good.
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In fact, he destroyed the Yankees again like he always
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does. He's one of those Yankee killers
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like David Ortiz generations ago.
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Every time this guy got up, you knew that he was going to have
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something for even our best pitchers.
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That's who Devers was. Garrett Cole, I'm sure is happy
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even though he's not pitching this year.
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Doesn't have to see him anymore, or at least more than every once
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in a while. Garrett Cole, I mean, I don't
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have the stats in front of me, but I don't think he did very
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well against Devers. My memory is a little.
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I seem to just remember it being really bad.
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This is a fascinating trade. I don't know if I've ever seen
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this happen. Jabba, when was the last time
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that you have seen anything like this happened from a team that
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just swept the first place team? I, I honestly had no idea.
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And shout out to my guy, Jared Carabas.
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Follow him on Jared unscore Carabas on next Twitter and in
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his podcast. And he's, he's a Red Sox guy.
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And you know, I, I try to go to the source when I can and he
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even didn't have any idea. And I don't know the time that I
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seen it. I don't know if it was if there
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was something internally that was going.
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On it had to be there were no other rumors.
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Yeah, and we didn't hear anything.
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And it was like, oh, OK, they kind of got through it when when
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they signed Bregman, we obviously talked about that and
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kind of how that went, but we hadn't really heard anything
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about it. And then obviously he made the
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turn and, you know, as, as Kyle stated in our chat, he was, oh,
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for 19 with 15 KS. Like that's that's, that's an
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awful start, as bad as you can start in an awful stretch.
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And so, you know, I'm just asking guys that no, because we
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hadn't heard anything. And if we hear something, we're
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obviously going to talk about it and understand, you know, kind
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of where they're coming from. But this after a sweep and still
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obviously, you know, people are panicking, but they're still 42
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and 29. Like let's let's just be honest
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and but for it to happen in this way, I think what really says
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it, and you said it fish, is the fact that they're like, you know
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what, we got rid of the entire contract.
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And I think that tells us something.
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I don't know what that is, but they definitely told us
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something there and that and is that is that Craig Breslow and
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and what they were doing in the front office either trying to
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get rid of it or saying like our farm system is good enough to
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where we can replace these guys. I think there's a little bit
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telling factors in kind of pieces, not necessarily the
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whole tail of it, but I think it comes down to the lingering
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effect that I think this. All.
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Had from the start right when Bregman came in and did that.
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So it's, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out and, and it
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really will be and see, see what happens.
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Sweetie, I got the analytics for you that I wanted to you to
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focus on as we go through this. I read something that Devers
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like contract value is like, like if there was like the way
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there's a specific measurement where they said that his
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contract's so bad it's like he's worth -40 million to his team.
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Really. I wonder.
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Why are people saying this about Devers when we see the offense
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well and especially when Clayton comes out and says he's one and
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you got to put respect on Clayton's name for what he's
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done right? And you would think a
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left-handed Hall of Fame left-handed pitcher would know
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who the good left-handed hitters are.
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Yeah, and he's one of the better pure hitters for a lefty, too,
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at least at the beginning of his career.
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So maybe they'll strike out numbers, I guess.
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Got that number down. I was thinking, yeah, OK,
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there's going to be a negative. I would never have thought -40
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million like that. I would maybe 2015 but.
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Well, it's a massive contract. Right it is.
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It is 11 years, 331 for a player that's young, durable and
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left-handed, though is still something that is going to spawn
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value. Now, I guess the power numbers
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for somebody like that have been a bit inconsistent, but he still
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is it mostly 25 or higher and I think five of the seven years of
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his career. So it's still not something that
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is that worrisome for a guy that is super durable.
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Yes, his defense is a concern, but I think everybody knew that
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even when he came up as a third baseman.
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And that's where I don't know if the value still stems for the
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Red Sox to be able to trade him as drastically as they did.
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So maybe I think it's exactly what you're saying.
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Java is something internal that got worse relationship wise
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where it's driven them to think, all right, is there an ulterior
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motive we can use this money for that?
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The problem is why couldn't they try that in this trade?
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Like, you have a month to do it. If this was like right at the
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deadline, all right, maybe you'd say all right, you don't want
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this to get worse. That's.
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That's the part, Speedy, that kind of like boggles my mind
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too, is this wouldn't be such a big conversation if it was
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closer to the deadline, right? Yeah, because I think they have
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time. Like I think especially with the
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kids already up, all three kids of the top prospects, we've
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talked about the start of the year all up now.
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Like you have leeway of maneuvering other contracts.
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They traded the one kid, the catcher for crochet, but the
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rest of their other young kids are still there in the top top
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seven of their farm system that year.
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So they have enough time to maneuver something where you
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trade one of them, you maybe trade him and you can still even
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get a better player. Or the other option is you trade
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him and then pack it like package a deal when you know
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your weaknesses to try to get the combined value in that
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whether it's from other line of depth or whether it's from.
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Bullpen, whatever, whatever it'll need.
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Or you get another star that's maybe a slight drop off and
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another depth pitcher and then all of a sudden you're in a
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better spot or in just as good of a spot as if you had Devers
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there. And maybe it wouldn't cause the
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same kind of culture issues. I don't know if he had any bad
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relationship with any of the younger players.
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I don't think that was revealed as much.
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But you mentioned the tension with Bregman.
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Maybe that ended up getting to it.
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And with even with Bregman hurt, though, that's what's the
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biggest thing that was surprising.
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He's hurt like you would think, All right, you don't have to
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have a deal with him for a month or anything, anything like that.
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And I guess it was still enough with the front office or it was
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a big issue. And I want to just relay Kyle's
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comments as well is to remind you of the guys were the Red Sox
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offloaded Adrian Gonzalez and Josh Beckett to the Dodgers.
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I think it's a little different. They were really badly over the
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the cap at that time. And that's when the cap I ever,
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I think first started with the with the luxury tax.
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And the Red Sox were one of the most disappointing teams in the
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league that year. And that was later in the
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season. Like they were big favorites in
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that division definitely, and one of the biggest in the
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American League at the time when they did that.
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I think it's a different circumstance than this year when
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there's a lot of mediocre teams in the American League right now
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that they could still make a run in the playoffs.
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They have these kids coming up. Maybe it's a spark for them.
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We've seen younger teams do very well in today's game.
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So here's what I remember growing up at the Java and we're
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the same age, so you remember this guy too.
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There was a guy on Seattle that didn't play the field after
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starting his career as third baseman, and I remember him
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recently getting into the Hall of Fame as ADH named Edgar
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Martinez. Now I'm not saying Raphael
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Devers is the hitter of Edgar Martinez, but if you're trying
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to get a left-handed power hitter into a lineup that
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doesn't really have a dude in it because let's face it, that
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Giants lineup, if it was missing something, it was missing a
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centerpiece. It was missing a dude.
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Now he's wouldn't play first base.
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Maybe he'll play first base for the Giants.
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He'll play third right now because Chapman had a weird
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injury to his hand. You know, Chapman like sprained
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like 3 of the fingers in his hand.
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He's going to be out a little bit.
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So he'll play some third. But once they come back, you
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know, those are, you know, Chapman and Bregman were two of
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were they both Gold Glover winners last year?
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I think they may have been right.
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So it's the exact same scenario, right?
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He's going to have to either become just a full time DH or
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learn how to play first base. And I think that probably is
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what he'll do next year. And he can always back up at
22:51
3rd. I mean, even if I, Guerrero
22:53
Junior started out playing third base too, we know that guys and
22:56
guys that are a little bit bigger in size, they gravitate
22:58
to 1st as they get into their 30s.
23:00
It's just a natural thing. You don't want guys getting hurt
23:02
all that much. There aren't that many big dudes
23:04
that play, you know, that level, you know, for a long time.
23:08
I guess Machado getting into his 30s right now, still playing
23:11
great defense out there, one of the best I've ever seen.
23:14
Third base a Rod's another one that comes to mind, playing
23:16
really good defense at third later in his career.
23:19
You know, so the bigger guys you like a like endeavors, you want
23:23
to try to see them protect themselves and just hit because
23:27
he's had a bad shoulder. They said that the start of the
23:29
season his shoulder was messed up and it's not surprising.
23:32
And at the end of the last year, it wasn't and then they didn't
23:34
really fix it well enough. And he was kind of weak on the
23:37
bat late last year and he's good now.
23:40
So what are they saying? Are they saying in Boston that
23:43
they're they're the schedule doesn't line up with having
23:47
Devers and these three young kids, Roman Anthony, that was
23:50
the top prospect in all of baseball coming into the season,
23:53
not named Roki Sasaki, who by the way, it doesn't look like
23:56
we're going to see Roki Sasaki again this season.
23:58
They just said that they had to shut him down again.
24:01
Look, I, I traded for him in fantasy.
24:03
I, I wanted to just, you know, as a shot in the dark, maybe
24:06
that guy can just come back and be like a shot in the arm for
24:09
the playoff run. You never know, He still might
24:11
be. Probably not.
24:13
You've got three guys. Roman Anthony, top prospect.
24:16
Mayor was the top prospect a couple of years ago and you
24:19
know, kind of slot slid down a little bit, but not exactly
24:23
consistent hitting lefties right now.
24:25
So he's platooning while he's up playing third base while
24:28
Bregman's out. He'll probably move over the
24:29
short. They're going to have to figure
24:30
out what to do with Trevor story, but I would imagine the
24:33
story with stories going to be similar to devours.
24:35
They're going to move his ass out.
24:37
Jabba. Are they just getting rid of the
24:38
vets right now? It's sometimes you get, you get
24:43
aged out. And I think now when you're
24:45
starting to bring these, and I think Craig is probably trying
24:48
to bring a different like maybe perspective to the front office
24:52
and kind of what he's doing with, you know, contracts and
24:56
how like now you're going to have control of these young kids
25:00
and try to develop. And you're not going to have to
25:02
pay him unless you pay him early.
25:04
And so it, it may be a little bit of that, but that also tells
25:09
me too. And it makes me think, are you
25:12
really trying to win right now? Because I'm not saying Young
25:17
Energy doesn't bring championships, but when you have
25:21
a top caliber like that and you get rid of him and you don't
25:24
really get much of anything back other than getting rid of your
25:28
payroll salary. Dumb.
25:30
Yeah. And and obviously with Jordan
25:32
Hicks, it's when he was with the Cardinals and, you know, it's
25:37
kind of the conversation everybody had about me.
25:39
It's like, should have left him there, but he wanted to be a
25:42
starter. They did that kind of understand
25:44
his circumstances. But really when you're getting
25:48
rid of a guy of that caliber and you don't really get a lot for
25:53
it, it, it makes it feel like it's a salary dump to be like,
25:56
OK, now we, we've got these young guys.
25:59
Even though Tristan's. Hurt, but you still got control
26:03
of him too. So it's not like you're paying
26:05
him either. So I think it's this is weird.
26:10
And when when I talk to a Red Sox guy, which you know, it's
26:14
hard to reach out as a Yankee to a Red Sox guy, but if I don't
26:19
know the answer, I'm going to try and find the right answer.
26:22
And I messaged some other people too.
26:24
And it's just it, it was kind of off the grid because as Speedy
26:31
touched on, like if it was closer to deadline, you could
26:33
kind of understand a little bit more of how it makes sense.
26:38
But now I did not get a lot in return and basically just make
26:43
it look like. A salary dump.
26:45
Then it's like, OK, are you trying to win now?
26:47
Are you trying to rebuild? And we we've talked about that
26:49
before. In like the.
26:50
Rebuilding process. So are you.
26:53
So what are you doing? And I don't honestly know what
26:57
the hell you're doing, to be honest with you.
27:00
You know, I, we, we talk about Craig Breslow, speedy and the
27:04
former player now in the front office.
27:06
We're giving a lot of congratulations earlier this
27:09
year, but we keep hearing, you know, the Red Sox are don't play
27:13
very good fundamental baseball. They're not there.
27:15
Was an issue last year too. You know that that maybe things
27:19
aren't all good on the farm and we see Campbell coming up.
27:24
He had a good first three weeks of the season and he has
27:26
struggled the rest of the way. And they were talking about
27:29
maybe he'll play some first when Dever said no, he's going to
27:32
stay at 2nd Mayor again. They're platooning him.
27:35
They don't even want him to see lefties right now because Toro's
27:38
been playing well. You know, he's one of those guys
27:41
that's a good. He was pretty good at Seattle
27:42
the year they made the playoffs. Toro.
27:44
He Toro. Look, if he's one of those
27:46
players that if you had to play him, you know, 500 at bats,
27:50
you're not going to like what you see.
27:51
But if you can get 350 of him on one side of the plate, you're
27:54
probably going to like what you see out of him, right?
27:56
But then you play in with with mayor.
27:58
So that's that's fine. So that's your decision.
28:01
You still have Trevor story for now.
28:03
I guarantee you he's gone and it's it's A-Team that has a good
28:08
foundation. If they had Devers, maybe they
28:10
were be a playoff team. Yeah, I want to bring up
28:12
something Jabba mentioned too, because you're talking about the
28:15
player relationships with somebody that's a newer general
28:18
manager. And I want to bring it up in
28:19
comparison to the 2021 Mets when Jacob degrom was under, like,
28:25
was he going to get paid? Was he not?
28:26
And I think that was something that I think was a big focal
28:29
point right after he got hurt the second time to where I think
28:33
that relationship got damaged very quickly after it seemed
28:35
like it was going well. And I think this is very similar
28:38
because the Mets at the time weren't the big spending one
28:41
they are now. That was before they went after
28:42
Scherzer and Verlander and obviously now getting Sodo.
28:45
But like the Red Sox are in that same boat where they're trying
28:47
to recreate the identity, is still trying to be the bigger
28:51
market team at one point, but then they want to be to avoid
28:55
the reckless spending they used to have.
28:57
But then at the same time try to be this like, cute, I'm going to
29:00
develop organically. And then they go to the other
29:02
extreme where they just trade Devers.
29:04
And the term salary dump is supposed to imply something
29:07
that's a you trade other either salaries or you trade a
29:10
prospectus to get rid of a guy. And Devers is not the type of
29:13
player to be considered a quote UN quote salary dump because
29:16
he's younger. If it's a 37 year old guy that's
29:19
eating up a lot of money. Yeah, OK, that's considered a
29:22
salary dump. The obviously the Nationals did
29:24
it with all their players trading Rendon, trading Serzer,
29:27
trading Trey Turner when their window closed.
29:30
That's not the same case here with the Red Sox.
29:32
That's not what you should be considered a salary dump.
29:35
And if that's the way the front office perceived it, then they
29:38
just rushed into the process of doing it and didn't go into the
29:43
methodology of what you could really get for Devers.
29:45
Now I told you this texting yesterday, Fish, I always
29:48
expected the Giants to make a swing like this.
29:50
So it's not surprising they were team jumping in on that because
29:53
they were lacking a big power bat for a while.
29:55
Even the 2121 Giants that won 107 games did not really have
29:59
that type of power bat to that same level.
30:02
So it's not surprising they jumped in on this quickly.
30:04
But the Red Sox, knowing that could have gotten a bidding war
30:07
across the National League to with enough good teams that need
30:11
power to get that kind of bidding war where they could
30:13
have gotten much better value. I like Harrison.
30:15
I think he still has a lot of room to improve to possibly be a
30:19
higher end pitcher. But like you were saying, Jabba
30:21
Hicks, you don't really know what you're going to get out of
30:23
him because especially when you're trained by the Cardinals,
30:25
they have not been the model organization of developing young
30:28
players recently. And the other two were OK
30:31
prospects, not great. If you're going to get a
30:34
potential #3 in your staff with Kyle Harrison say he develops at
30:40
high end, they think he might be a number 2, but it's still a
30:42
couple years. It's still years away.
30:45
It's still years away for him. Hicks.
30:48
I don't think anyone thinks thinks Hicks is going to be
30:50
anything at this point. And I I don't know that outfield
30:53
prospects was the 4th. Top He was the first round pick
30:56
last year so he's still very raw.
30:58
So maybe he's maybe he'll be good.
30:59
But again, that's very down the road to me when you send a
31:04
message to your like, they just swept the Yankees.
31:07
They just swept the Yankees with a guy who's having a historic
31:11
season and held him to one for 12 in the series.
31:16
And they're like, you know what, most, most strikeouts in a
31:19
series with 9, right? He was terrible in the series.
31:23
They got to him. They were able to to solve him
31:26
for three days. And yet no, let's give up this
31:30
year. We're 1/2 game out of the wild
31:32
card and they'll say they're not giving up.
31:34
I'm sure they're not going to. They're saying they're not
31:36
giving up, but how are they better without that bat in the
31:40
lineup? And again, he was terrible in
31:41
April. Last I heard, if you're over a
31:43
900 OPS, you're a good damn hitter.
31:46
And he has 15 homers and 58 RB is now.
31:50
We went from talking about Craig Breslow.
31:52
I think we deserve to talk about another former player that's
31:55
Buster Posey. Buster Posey with this move he
31:59
gets rid of some pitchers that may are probably prospects that
32:05
were not as hyped as they should or over hyped.
32:07
Not only that, there's not a lot of room.
32:09
They have a lot. Of good.
32:10
They have a lot of, they have a lot of arms.
32:12
They don't need it. It's like like extra players.
32:15
They just have to spend the money.
32:17
And now they get again the H and the NL.
32:20
They, I mean, who's their first baseman?
32:23
That's legend Wilmer Flores. Yeah, that's not a long term
32:26
solution. I'm sure he's having a good
32:28
year. Yeah, yeah.
32:29
He's actually tied for their team lead in home or no second
32:31
on their team lead in home runs, only behind Chapman.
32:34
Yeah, so clearly Devers is going to help, right?
32:38
So if this is what you have, and in the long run, this guy now
32:42
has a long contract and he's going to give the power,
32:45
left-handed power. I saw a spray chart of his home
32:47
run, Speedy. It's kind of hard for lefties at
32:51
Fenway unless they're going up and.
32:53
It's gonna be even harder in San Francisco.
32:56
Well, they said it would be the exact same amount of home runs
32:59
if he hit it in San Francisco. Maybe compared to because they
33:02
did like the home run chart to see like distance wise, yeah.
33:06
Extra basic double, double S and he's not going to get any
33:09
triples. But double S in that right
33:11
center in San Francisco is hard, though.
33:13
Yeah, no, you're not wrong. And but it's about the same.
33:15
So it's not like he doesn't have the power to get it out.
33:18
We know the balls aren't traveling the same way that they
33:20
did in previous years either. You know that that'll probably
33:23
change back the other way next season.
33:25
And watch, he'll have an extra 10 home runs, right?
33:28
This, this is a great move by Buster Posey.
33:31
This is, it's like the saying the exact opposite thing to your
33:35
fan base. Craig Braslow is telling his fan
33:37
base not right now. You guys can be middling for
33:41
another couple of years. We'll get there eventually.
33:44
And Buster Posey says screw that.
33:46
I'm adding one of the best left-handed bats because they're
33:48
undervaluing him. I don't care if we have to spend
33:50
money. I want to win.
33:52
And guess what? Fans love that your team.
33:56
I mean, Jabba, you tell me that what the mentality of that Red
33:58
Sox clubhouse has to be after this deal, because I can't
34:02
imagine it being positive. And I bet it's exactly the
34:04
opposite of that San Francisco clubhouse where they're all
34:07
jacked up. I think it's it's two different
34:09
dynamics, especially as you said, like if you're a player on
34:16
that team, like you look at like a Walker Bueller or whatever and
34:21
what like what are we doing? Like are we are we trying to
34:25
win? I under, like I said, I
34:27
understand bringing young talent.
34:29
I I get that and bring young energy like that's.
34:32
It makes sense to me. But to what capacity are you?
34:35
Are you really like, OK, now I'm like, I'm going out and pitching
34:40
for myself. Yeah, I got a contract, I hope.
34:42
Contract. Not a big one.
34:44
But it's still a contract. He's not he's not under the
34:48
arbitration level yet to where like he's getting paid like
34:50
minimum. No.
34:52
So that's that's the hard part. I have no idea what that would
34:58
be. But then on the other side, when
35:01
you bring in guys like when we bring in Ichiro and don't really
35:04
give up much and they're like, all right, we're trying to win
35:07
again and go the giants in what you have.
35:11
You have two front office guys that are former players doing
35:16
the complete opposite, like 1's bringing in something and not
35:21
giving away everything. And like you bring a guy like
35:26
that in, it's like, all right, well, well here we go.
35:30
And then on the other side of the fence you're like, well,
35:33
what the hell is going on here? Like and, and did Craig come in
35:39
and talk or did they have a conversation?
35:43
Did he bring some guys in and be like, hey, this is kind of the
35:46
direction we're going that we don't know because we're not in
35:49
the clubhouse and we don't have those answers.
35:52
But it's two opposite sides of the spectrum and it's very, very
35:57
interesting. I love it that it's early enough
36:03
where let's see how it plays out.
36:06
Let's see what happens on both sides of it to see.
36:12
Let's not look long term right now.
36:14
Let's like look at it just right for what it is right now for
36:17
this year, then we can talk about it as we go down the road.
36:21
Well, the Giants are going to jump started on quickly because
36:23
they they know the Padres are also a very aggressive front
36:26
office and obviously. The Dodgers are, duh.
36:28
We've seen him. Everything.
36:31
Yeah. And he's awesome because he, he
36:33
don't care. He'll he'll pull the trigger.
36:35
On whatever, so and. He knows too, that this Giants
36:37
team, they're not going to be able to win the same way that
36:39
his Giants team won with. Obviously they still have the
36:42
pitching, which is not as good as the World Series core, but
36:45
like it's still a good pitching, but they're not going to be able
36:47
to win with those types of just like every hitter is a scrappy
36:51
hitter type thing. You need some level of power in
36:52
today's game. You need some level of the extra
36:54
base hits, guys that can generate all those walk, which
36:56
is another thing that Devers does very well at his peak where
37:00
there's a reason. And he he actually had, I think
37:01
the at one point during the 2023 season, the lowest chase rate
37:05
for a guy with that many home runs, too, which those are the
37:08
types of hitters that the Giants have lacked for a while.
37:11
And like you were saying, fish Wilmer Flores 11 home runs Helio
37:15
Ramos goodies boy that he doesn't remember who he was as
37:18
has eleven home runs, but they don't have any money.
37:20
Other guys healthy double digit home runs.
37:22
Talk about fantasy boss. My biggest one in my league with
37:25
Josh Adamus. Yikes.
37:26
His numbers are horrible this year. 624 OPS, eight home runs,
37:29
30 two RBI's. And so far you need a veteran
37:33
presence to make up for that kind of move.
37:34
And so far you're getting that with bringing endeavors, which
37:37
they're sprinkled in a couple good youngsters, but it just
37:40
they have depth, but not a lot of stardom and not a lot of like
37:43
who's the scary guy in the lineup where the Dodgers and the
37:45
Padres are sprinkled with a bunch of those guys.
37:49
Well, I wouldn't give up on Adamus Speedy, I do.
37:52
I didn't drop him. I'm just saying it's
37:54
disappointing. Well.
37:55
Look, it's a, it's a new team. You never know.
37:59
Sometimes you just, I mean, look at what Lindor did that first
38:01
year, how how struggling, how much he struggled right off the
38:04
bat with the Mets. And then, you know, he found his
38:06
groove. I think bringing a guy like
38:08
Devers into this clubhouse, I mean, it's going to give him new
38:12
life, but it's also going to give a guy like Adamus new life.
38:16
I want to hear what our intern Aaron has to say about this.
38:19
What what do you, what is your take on this trade?
38:21
Because this is certainly a one-of-a-kind type of the deal
38:24
man. No, absolutely.
38:26
Honestly, the only way you can really compare it is to the Luca
38:29
trade. Now that was a bigger trade in
38:30
the sense of like, whoa. That you know.
38:32
Luke is a one of the best stars in in the NBA, but you compare
38:36
it because you're trading your home, your home grown guy, you
38:39
know, in the middle of a season where again, you just swap the
38:42
Yankees. You got they're kind of getting
38:44
off to a good start. But then also other teams are
38:46
going. He was he was he was available.
38:49
Like why, why wasn't I known this right?
38:52
And I heard on the MLB Network that they said if teams called
38:56
and they asked about Devers, they were willing to listen.
38:58
So it wasn't that he wasn't available or he was they would.
39:02
You just had to ask and they you kind of just start talking and
39:05
then stuff came out from there. But then also like, why?
39:08
Like why now I you know what? And even go back, going back to
39:12
the offseason, everyone was saying Boston was going to be
39:14
this great team, which look, I mean, they haven't lived up to
39:16
their potential, but it all started when they signed
39:19
Bregman. Bregman they didn't need, they
39:21
needed Bregman offensively, not, I'm sorry, defensively at both
39:25
on the both sides of the ball, But you already had Devers
39:28
there. So if you don't sign Bregman,
39:30
which they kind of did in my eye to make a splash because they
39:34
did get crochet and they did get Bueller.
39:37
So then you get Bregman and then you make this whole mess of a of
39:40
a problem when with your home grown guy.
39:42
So there's a lot of confusing things for me when I when I look
39:45
at this trade, but then you also look at it from a wide league
39:48
standpoint. And now the now the Giants are
39:50
going. We're here.
39:51
We're ready to. Win now, and now the Dodgers are
39:54
going well. We have to try to maybe pivot
39:58
and there's so many different things, teams that are involved,
40:00
even though they're not directly involved with the trade like the
40:02
Yankees now they're going, hey, we can kind of sit back now
40:05
because honestly, this trade makes Boston worse right now.
40:09
I mean is. It coincident, you know, we'll
40:11
talk about it later, but is it coincidence after as soon as we
40:14
heard this deal went down within a couple hours we're we hear
40:17
Shohei Otani's pitching the next game for the Dodgers that NL W
40:21
speedy. That's if I don't know if
40:24
there's a more competitive division in baseball.
40:27
Yep, those those three teams, Arizona is not far behind where
40:30
they're kind of stuck in mediocrity right now.
40:31
But yeah, but those three are definitely the best like top
40:33
three grouping this year because again, we know the Padres, when
40:37
healthy, have enough pitching. They're the bullpen is still
40:39
very strong. The Giants bullpen I think it's
40:41
the best in the National League right now.
40:43
And then the Dodgers are just like filled with all the talent.
40:45
They just have a bunch of pitching injuries.
40:46
Probably why they had to bring Otani to pitch now.
40:49
Like you're saying, fish maybe month ahead of schedule type
40:52
thing. But their offense is still I
40:54
think now surpassed the Cubs for the most runs scored in the
40:57
league, the the most home runs. Obviously Otani still having the
41:00
unbelievable year. But yeah, that's there's a
41:01
reason the Giants jumped on this earlier is to not be that kind
41:05
of all right, we'll wait on this kind of want to be high spending
41:09
team and then miss out on it like they were in the air.
41:12
And judge sweepstakes when the Yankees ended up still getting
41:14
him in the end like they were with joining the Mets in the
41:17
Carlos Korea sweepstakers. Thank God they both dodged a
41:19
bullet on that one. But nevertheless, they still
41:22
tried. But they haven't been able to
41:23
get there with their past regime.
41:25
And now Buster Posey, whatever he's doing in that front office,
41:28
is getting players to want to buy into that.
41:31
At least the team culture perspective.
41:32
Last year, they just didn't have enough talent on the offensive
41:34
side. Now they have the talent to be
41:35
able to make it work with Devers.
41:37
And who says this is the last one either?
41:39
Devers is again him and Logan Webb.
41:41
They're kind of the only big contracts that they have right
41:43
now. It's not.
41:44
And Adamus looks bad because he hasn't played well, but it's not
41:47
like an egregious contract. I mean, I remember so like I
41:53
played playing fantasy baseball guys since I was 11 years old on
41:57
an AL, only ESPN. You have to pay 2995 for it.
42:01
And it was very simplistic stats.
42:04
There's two guys that I ever watched that I was, I watched
42:08
like a handful like their first at bats and I just was obsessed
42:11
with watching these guys play. I never saw young players have
42:14
at bats like that. And the number of first guy I'm
42:16
talking about is Mike Trout. When Mike Trout came up, I've
42:19
never seen anyone with that kind of power.
42:21
And I made sure in the league where you're allowed one, we
42:24
called it a bonus pick, one waiver pick all season.
42:26
I went and got Trout and the year that I won, I took Buster
42:30
Posey because I just watched Buster Posey play.
42:33
Guys, this is a legend and this might be the Jerry West of
42:38
baseball coming forwards because the first big move he makes, in
42:42
my opinion, is a genius move. I mean, look at this highlight.
42:46
Do you remember the the type of crap that he used to pull when
42:48
he was catching? I mean, he came up to the league
42:51
as one of the best game callers already.
42:53
But you you also know too you're something special when you when
42:56
you get these guys. They created a Buster Posey rule
43:00
so you couldn't run over a catcher anymore.
43:02
Yeah. And honestly, if that didn't
43:04
happen to him, I think his career is a bunch of years
43:06
longer. He doesn't have to play first
43:07
base. The last bunch of years of his
43:09
career, you know, he's still a Hall of Famer.
43:11
It's just it like we kind of got robbed of some of that peak.
43:15
Now, obviously that happens to catchers.
43:17
That's part of the position, I guess.
43:18
Now it's not the Buster Posey rule.
43:20
But look, I mean, we have. Everyone knows the story of Pete
43:23
Rose running over the catcher and the guy was never the same
43:26
in the All Star Game, right? So it's probably something to
43:29
take out of baseball. One of one of my favorite ones,
43:32
though, is AJ Brzezinski and Michael Barrett.
43:34
Tell me a little bit more about it.
43:37
I don't remember it too well. They get into it and they they,
43:41
they push each other and do whatever and then all hell
43:44
breaks loose. There's been some good ones, but
43:47
I'd love that part of the game and that there, there are
43:50
certain parts of the game that we've talked about where I wish
43:54
they wouldn't have taken away some of these things because
43:57
it's like taking a guy out at second.
43:59
I mean, we saw it in the College World Series how a game ended
44:03
and it was interference. And I'm like interference as
44:07
long as you touch the bag. But sometimes they didn't touch
44:09
a bag and they're just trying to take your legs out so you don't
44:11
get a double play. And there are certain parts of
44:13
the game now that have been taken away.
44:15
And Buster Posey is one of those guys that change it.
44:18
Yeah, you slide in hard, take him out as 1/2 slide, half hit
44:22
him and he blows his ACL out. And now you changed the entire
44:26
rules for that reason. I just it it it's weird to me
44:32
because I still want to see dudes get run over.
44:34
Like, I love that part of it. Chase, How we remains.
44:37
Number one, I think it's like the hockey fight though.
44:39
It's like the hockey fight. Like it's the only thing that's
44:43
truly left from like the old school days of sports is they're
44:47
still going to settle it with a fight.
44:49
I think everything else that was kind of like schoolyard rules
44:52
has been taken out of all of our favorite sports that you just
44:55
mentioned it. No, you can't run over the
44:56
catcher, can't slide hard in a second.
44:58
I mean, you can slide hard in the second, but you have to hit
45:02
exactly right on the bag. That'll be perfect, right?
45:06
But of course, that's like not great for the second baseman
45:09
coming over and his foot, you know, like, so there's, there's
45:12
a bunch of stuff that you know, is reason why they did in the
45:15
1st place like that, that I think people forget that there's
45:18
all those things. But guys, this Red Sox trade, I
45:23
as a Yankee fan, they just blew the doors off of us this weekend
45:26
and they decided to tank their team.
45:28
Thank you very much. I'll enjoy your fans being
45:30
miserable as a Yankee fan. I guess it's like some it's like
45:35
we lost every game, but we sort of won in a way.
45:38
But they're not a main competition.
45:40
I can't believe they're punting on the playoffs, though.
45:42
It feels like they're punting on the playoffs.
45:44
If I was on their their clubhouse, that's what I would
45:47
say. And I and I would want answers
45:49
like, are you serious? Where do you, where, where do
45:51
you go with the like, if you're, if you're that guy, you have
45:56
very few guys in that clubhouse that can actually like like
45:59
what? What are we doing like?
46:01
What? What direction are we going in?
46:04
Like what did I sign up for A. Team that's getting young all at
46:08
once, apparently. I just hope it's not an ego
46:11
thing with Breslow. Like we don't know how he is as
46:13
a general manager. He wants to put his stamp on it.
46:16
Maybe he's right, maybe this will work and it's just a very
46:20
strange timed thing to do. And, and you can't, you can't
46:24
tell me that that's the best offer you thought you were going
46:27
to get for Devers. I just don't get it.
46:29
I it's not that good of an offer.
46:32
If you really thought he's that much of A toxic asset that you
46:35
had to dump him. How does he have a 900 OPS with
46:38
15 homers and 58 RBIs by the middle of June?
46:42
That means he's on pace for over 100 RBIs and he was terrible in
46:46
April. The only thing I can think of
46:48
that probably with a rally around the younger player, like
46:51
not being there recently, but this was more of just the off
46:55
field incident related. It's not the not him getting
46:58
traded was the Padres and 22 with all the stuff with Tatis,
47:01
with the motorcycle accident and then the random thing drugs he
47:05
got caught for and they rallied around and they went to the NLCS
47:08
as a five seed. But again, besides that, that
47:11
wasn't a trade circumstance. That wasn't a front office
47:13
saying, all right, we're going to throw you away.
47:14
There were trade rumors after that, but that's the only thing
47:16
I could think of. So that's best case scenario for
47:19
the Red Sox. You would hope, but it's still a
47:21
long shot. Let's hope for the worst case
47:24
scenario for those Red Sox guys. The NBA Finals are back tonight.
47:32
In about 10 minutes. We'll have tip off in game five
47:36
in Oklahoma City. It is a Tide series at 2.
47:39
The Thunder one game four of the NBA Finals versus the Pacers 111
47:43
to 104, tying the series at 2. The Thunder came back from a 10
47:47
point deficit in the third quarter, down 86 to 76 and came
47:53
back all the way to win. The Thunder outscored the Pacers
47:55
35 to 18 since late in the third.
47:59
They didn't hit. The Pacers hit 03 pointers in
48:02
the fourth quarter. Thunder just made 33 pointers in
48:05
the entire game, the lowest total for any team in a playoff
48:08
win in the last 10 years since the Nuggets in 2019.
48:11
Shay Gildjos, Alexander, 35 points. 15 of those points came
48:15
in the last four minutes and 38 seconds of the game, the most in
48:20
NBA history. In NBA Finals game, Shay hit six
48:24
free throws down the stretch in the final 44 seconds.
48:27
Benedict Mathuran missed three out of four free throws that
48:29
could have made it A1 possession game.
48:30
The Thunder are now 22 and 12 in games where they trailed by
48:34
double digits, the best record since the 9798 Bulls.
48:40
Wow, this series is. I just didn't want to give the
48:45
Pacers credit. I really couldn't.
48:47
I thought most of the games would go the way this game went.
48:50
The Pacers run out to leads because they have streaky teams
48:53
and then they get cold because they run this 7 seconds or less
48:57
offense that Mike D'Antoni wished he could have run as fast
49:00
as they run. But they're going up against a
49:04
team that has the MVP, Shay Gil, just Alexander is deadly from
49:09
inside. If you foul this guy, who's
49:11
going to hit foul shots at the end of the game.
49:13
He had six of them. And we have some highlights and
49:16
we'll show them to you in a little bit.
49:17
But they're not going to show you the last minute of the game
49:19
because it was just foul shot back and forth, foul shot back
49:22
and forth after Shay made sure that he took over and scored a
49:26
bunch of buckets in a row to get them the lead and then he
49:29
wouldn't allow them to to come back Here we have some of it and
49:32
guess what? It's all mid range.
49:33
It defies the analytics, Speedy. It defies the analytics.
49:38
Well, there's a couple of threes, but he's a great player.
49:42
He just dices guys up. Why aren't they sending two guys
49:45
at him? I'll tell you why.
49:46
Because he'll find the open man They can't.
49:49
He does it very differently than Brunson.
49:51
Brunson kind of comes off the angles a little bit more than
49:53
Shay. Shay's willing to do this with
49:55
his his handle and that's what's scary.
49:58
He can go either direction straight up on you at any point
50:01
in time. He's longer than Brunson, so he
50:03
can get a shot over more guys, even though Brunson always seems
50:07
to get it off with his turnarounds.
50:09
I, I just love watching this guy play.
50:11
I don't get to see a lot of them, you know, kind of out
50:14
West. I don't stay up late enough to
50:15
see all of it. I'm a teacher with guys.
50:18
Let's face it, you know, I wake up early.
50:20
It's it's tough. I'll watch the highlights.
50:23
I watch most of the games that start at 7.
50:25
It's just or 8:00, you know, for this time of the year, it's real
50:28
important that you that you give them proper respect and shade.
50:32
Jill just Alexander, my God, you know, I, I, I still think Yokich
50:36
probably should have deserved MVP.
50:38
I just think Yokich is a one of one and you just get sometimes
50:40
just get tired of giving the same guy the MVP.
50:43
But he's doing stuff as a 2 guard that we haven't seen since
50:46
guys like Kobe, since guys like Jordan.
50:49
I'm not calling him Kobe or Jordan, but the way he's
50:51
playing, very reminiscent speedy.
50:54
Yeah, again, it's something that it's a well-rounded game that he
50:58
has, like you said, he defies the logic with not having to
51:01
force threes, not having to rely on threes like you see other
51:03
point guards do. And again, the mid range game, I
51:06
always said it's fine if if it's open, like obviously don't want
51:09
to like force shots, you're not going to play ISO ball all the
51:11
time. But if the shots open, the shot
51:13
is open, you you take it and the Thunder have enough size to be
51:17
able to compensate that with either offensive rebounding or
51:20
you try to make them guard it. And then you can get more inside
51:23
looks. You might get more one-on-one
51:24
match up where he is able to drive to the hoop or he is able
51:26
to drive to get free throws and that's the type of guy that he
51:30
is. And the Thunder have a lot of
51:32
players like that. They don't have one way type of
51:35
players that are just specialty shooters or just specialty
51:38
inside guys. You got to balance a big man
51:40
with Jalen Williams, who again can be a three-point as a
51:43
three-point shooter, kind of streaky.
51:45
But again, OKC didn't have to rely on that because they only
51:48
shot 16 threes. They only made three of them.
51:50
That wasn't the game plan, obviously, but they have enough
51:52
guys where they can play different styles with everybody
51:56
all at once. And it was just a matter of time
51:58
where their offensive depth wasn't the same kind of
52:01
liability like you saw in Game three.
52:02
Because the Pacers in Game 3 outscored the Thunder wings and
52:07
guards off the bench drastically.
52:08
And that was the big difference in Game 3 when the Pacers were
52:11
able to run away with it in the fourth quarter, the Pacers
52:13
looked like they were doing that again.
52:15
And then the Thunder got some of those guys to finally elevate
52:19
their games off the bench and didn't let them drastically have
52:23
that type of rotation advantage that they claim to have in game
52:27
#3 and they have enough type of defenders to play versatile type
52:32
defense as well. There's like we were talking
52:34
about it in the preview, there's no defensive liability on the on
52:37
the OK C Thunder whatsoever. And they finally played some
52:41
matchups that worked against being able to shut down Siakam
52:45
at certain points in that game. Halliburton was good but not
52:48
amazing. And that's the type of number
52:51
one type hyper efficient defense we've seen OKC play.
52:54
They were talking about, I don't know which writers it was, but
52:58
OKC, if they win this title, like one of the best defenses
53:01
ever for a championship team. And there's parts of this
53:04
postseason where they haven't played like it.
53:06
Now, granted, I think most of their duds have been more on
53:08
offense, but it's still sometimes where the Pacers who
53:11
are not this like overly talented team, yes, Keith, not
53:14
this overly talented team exposed at certain instances
53:18
because of coaching. And now you're finally seeing
53:21
that OKC Thunder defense that you're expecting to see late in
53:24
that game, late in the fourth quarter when they only allowed
53:26
eighteen points. Yeah, I just, I think it's a
53:30
little bit, it's a combination of like a lot of things.
53:35
But the one thing that I've seen from Shay is, is his ability to
53:41
get off the perimeter and get mid range shots and be able to
53:47
finish those. And that's the one thing like
53:50
when you see a championship team and you see a young guy, and
53:55
we've obviously seen a lot of young kids going to try and win
54:01
a championship at the first time, right?
54:03
And we've talked about that. Well, they're the 4th youngest
54:05
team ever to make it this far, and the Pacers are one of them
54:09
too. I think they're eighth all time,
54:10
something like that. But you see how he's able to get
54:14
into the lane and, and not not only create a shot, but also be
54:20
able to do other things with the basketball.
54:22
And it's, and it's fun to see. And I, I love the fact that
54:28
we're at 22 right now with both teams because there are
54:31
defensive aspects on both sides, as you said, from the wing play
54:35
and, and how they can extend the court speedy.
54:39
But seeing, seeing these two guys and do these things, it,
54:42
it's been really, really fun to see.
54:45
And I'm excited for the rest of this series to kind of see which
54:50
of these stars step up and see what they do.
54:56
And it'll be fun. It'll be fun.
54:59
You know, what's fun is realizing that my my beloved
55:03
Knicks, they weren't so bad stopping Pascal Siakam, because
55:07
he isn't. No one's stopping him.
55:10
And I think we need to give him a little bit of credit.
55:11
He's got 20 points in this game, if I'm not mistaken.
55:15
I think he had five steals. Yeah.
55:17
So listen to this line from Siakam.
55:19
He had plus seven in a game that they lost by 7.
55:22
So keep that in mind. Eight boards, 5 assists, 5
55:26
steals in a block. He's doing that from the power
55:28
forward position against being guarded by either Chet or maybe
55:33
they switch Hardenstein on to him every once in a while.
55:37
That's two pretty good defensive players and he's still doing
55:40
that. I mean, that guy, he gave the
55:43
Knicks everything they could have.
55:44
He won two games by himself in that series, in my opinion, and
55:49
they did give him the Eastern Conference Finals MVP.
55:53
Is it going to be enough? Well, not if Oklahoma City has a
55:56
game like they did in game four. Listen to these free throw
55:59
numbers. Speedy Chet 6 of 6 from the
56:02
line. Jalen Williams 11 of 11 from the
56:05
line. Shay Gilgeous, Alexander 9:50
56:08
from the line. This is all in the same game.
56:10
Hey, Jalen Williams is is the key to that too. 27 points,
56:15
seven boards, 3 assists for. Don't forget your boy Alex
56:18
Caruso. And that's who I wanted to get
56:21
to as well. Caruso not not as a lead of a
56:23
shooter. He also put up 20 points, seven
56:25
of nine from the field, hit one of two threes, five of seven
56:28
from the line. I mean, the amount of they had,
56:31
they were 34 of 38 from the free throw line, shooting 89 1/2%.
56:38
It's hard to beat a team that does that, especially if you're
56:41
behind at the end of the game. This team has just been able to
56:44
pull away from other teams all year, all year.
56:47
You look back all year why they won so much.
56:50
A lot of it has to do with just simple things like free throw
56:52
shooting and just doing what you're supposed to do take make
56:57
all your layups. We don't see a ton of missed
57:00
easy bunnies by this team. This is what you want.
57:03
Not like when you watch. I mean, I don't want to give too
57:06
much shade to Angel Reese, but we know she likes to miss
57:09
layups, even though she did just have a triple double.
57:11
Java's new shirt. Good for her.
57:12
Java's new shirt. Do you have an Angel reshirt
57:17
Java? I will never have an.
57:20
Angel No, no. What did you say?
57:21
You bought the shirt that mocked her or whatever it was.
57:25
Oh no, I got the me bounds. I got that one.
57:28
The me bounds. Yeah.
57:29
Do you see that video speedy of her on TikTok saying like, I
57:32
don't know who just said that, but I'll take all the me bounds.
57:34
We bounds, she bounds whatever, give me all the bounds.
57:37
Like OK, that's an interesting way to I don't like how thin her
57:41
skin is with some of this stuff. She probably shouldn't be doing
57:43
it. But again, kids these days, 22
57:46
years old, 23, it's all about being an influencer.
57:50
We saw that with Chador Sanders. Maybe she's kind of like that
57:53
too, a little bit getting away from her.
57:55
Talk about her rival for a second.
57:57
Caitlin Clark and Tyrese Halliburton seem to be best
58:00
buddies during all this. And there's been some pretty
58:04
hilarious memes as well, calling, you know, the, the
58:07
nickname him, the Haliban. And there's a bunch of like the
58:10
Caitlin Clark and Tyrese Halliburton dressed up like
58:13
Osama bin Laden or something like that.
58:15
Yeah. It was just ridiculous stuff
58:17
that people are doing. Probably Knicks fans that
58:19
dislike them. I don't know if I dislike
58:22
Caitlin Clark. I do not like that she is
58:24
friends with Tyrese Halliburton, who in my opinion is now the
58:27
enemy of all Knicks fans for until further notice, I guess.
58:30
Trey Young still up there. I I speed, I go, I go on back
58:33
and forth. I feel like Trey.
58:34
Young, I think. I think Halliburton is a 2 year
58:36
versus A1 year sample though. I know, but the Trey Young stuff
58:40
was so extreme at, I don't know, they both went on WWE to taunt
58:45
the Knicks. Both of them did.
58:47
So they got that in common. But the Haliban is Jake's right.
58:51
That's that's an excellent nickname, the Haliban.
58:53
But you know what? I find it.
58:55
I wanted to talk about this. I put it in our read at the
58:57
beginning. Halliburton was named by the
59:01
vote by the players the most overrated player in all of
59:05
basketball. I would argue.
59:07
Trey Young is the most overrated player in all of basketball.
59:10
I had that title in baseball. They like in like AMLBPA
59:15
anonymous vote Yep, but so So what do you think?
59:20
So this obviously I don't think anyone's going to be saying that
59:23
about Halliburton anymore, But how did how did like obviously
59:27
this is a motivator, right, Jabba?
59:31
I mean not, I mean, yes and no, like this was done like and you
59:38
you understand how or why it is. It's because you get some guys
59:42
and they don't they don't do everybody.
59:44
Honestly, don't get me wrong, But it's like, OK, go ahead and
59:48
tell me. But you know what?
59:50
We're in the same damn league. So obviously I'm not that
59:53
overrated. So I've earned my stripes to get
59:57
here, right? And so I I just I.
1:00:02
I can't say that it's, you guys see it a lot closer than I do
1:00:09
being there with them as Knicks fans in that, and obviously me
1:00:14
being tied to New York and understanding it.
1:00:19
But it's it's one of those things where I don't want
1:00:23
billboard material for people. I don't because they just want
1:00:27
to go shove it up your ass and be like, you know what?
1:00:29
Oh OK, I'm overrated. Boom.
1:00:32
I just beat you, sorry. Yeah.
1:00:35
And then so why are you they? Gave enough of that to not only
1:00:37
the Knicks fans, there's a lot of Cavs fans that are thinking
1:00:41
the same way with already with Halliburton.
1:00:43
I'm sure there's plenty of other like more, I guess Midwest
1:00:46
rivalry type thing throughout the regular season that would
1:00:48
have had that kind of thing with Halliburton too.
1:00:49
It's just the way his demeanor is too.
1:00:51
And I, I don't know if that contributed to when, when you
1:00:54
got there voting at the time job when the MLBPA was caught.
1:00:58
I thought I found out in Oakland is where I found out.
1:01:02
Jabba, I'm pretty sure you know. Do you know the reasons like why
1:01:05
they would think that way though?
1:01:06
Like it? Was well, yeah, because nobody,
1:01:08
nobody had ever done what I'd done in New York.
1:01:11
And yeah, I had great year, decent year, not a great year.
1:01:17
And so that's like kind of when it came out and I was like,
1:01:20
that's fine. I was like, as Pedro said, they
1:01:24
don't talk about nobodies. So let's let let's be real about
1:01:29
it. And so if we're, if we're doing
1:01:31
it in that context, like tell me I'm overrated, I don't care.
1:01:36
My paycheck goes through and you're still watching me and
1:01:39
you're talking about me. So what do you want me to do?
1:01:42
And I think it's again, the NBA and MLB probably a little
1:01:45
different with especially if you're saying the traditions,
1:01:47
especially being a Yankee too, compared to like the NBA teams
1:01:50
or you kind of want those extra flash and you want the extra
1:01:53
headlines on you as as our friend Errol says all the time,
1:01:56
the LJA, LeBron James Association that wants to create
1:01:59
offseason drama for no reason. And obviously there is that in
1:02:03
baseball too. I'm not saying there isn't that,
1:02:04
but I think it's especially like a kind of a mainstay now in the
1:02:08
NBA and when you have younger guys that are trying to be those
1:02:11
types of instigators too, because I mentioned it too when
1:02:13
we were talking about Anthony Edwards, like there's not a lot
1:02:15
of those younger players that are as much of the LeBron types
1:02:19
as there are in with with his generation.
1:02:22
And maybe Halliburton is starting to get to that kind of
1:02:24
extent. I don't think he actually brings
1:02:26
it on himself like as much where he's saying all these like super
1:02:30
egregious things like you're seeing Anthony Edwards do
1:02:32
sometimes. But besides, besides, like I
1:02:36
would say Joel Embiid, like there's not really as much like
1:02:38
the last 10 years worth of these NBA superstars of guys that are
1:02:42
doing that as much as what Halliburton is doing.
1:02:45
But again, there's a difference where Halliburton's actually
1:02:47
putting it up and it's fueling the fire.
1:02:49
And what you've seen OKC do is not have any guys like talking
1:02:52
back at him, trying to fire him up.
1:02:54
And obviously earned it with the buzzer beater in game one
1:02:56
playing as well as he did. But it's still going to be
1:02:58
something that OK C is taking into account of.
1:03:01
We're not going to. We're going to make him stay
1:03:03
humble thing and not give him the extra firing up.
1:03:06
Especially now with Game 5 tonight at home where OKC
1:03:09
doesn't lose very often. So.
1:03:12
The. The thing that I always said is,
1:03:14
you know, bench doesn't travel all that well.
1:03:17
You know, you usually have your great performances from your
1:03:20
bench players like Mathurin, like we saw in Game 3 when he
1:03:23
put up 27 points and 22 minutes, one of the all time heat checks
1:03:29
of anyone. And you know that he turned the
1:03:31
tide in that game and that's why it's 22.
1:03:34
But take a look at what he did in game four.
1:03:35
He had eight points, right? He had a crew in a crucial like
1:03:40
handful of missed foul shots because they knew he wasn't
1:03:43
ready for the moment, so they fouled him.
1:03:44
Doesn't matter what his percentage is during the season
1:03:47
when it comes to this time of the year.
1:03:49
And Jabba, you know, and out in the ninth inning during May is
1:03:52
not the same as an out 9th inning during October.
1:03:55
It's a big difference, right? It's a big, big difference.
1:03:59
And a foul shot at this point of the year, I mean, we know it
1:04:02
ruined. I remember Nick Anderson ruined
1:04:03
his whole career like that. That's a that's a true story.
1:04:07
I mean, who knows the new Nick Anderson story.
1:04:08
We're going to talk about the magic later tonight.
1:04:10
Wasn't it a front end of a one-on-one, right?
1:04:13
He missed. He missed all his shot.
1:04:15
I think it was 3 foul shots. Wasn't it speedy?
1:04:18
I think so. He was a three pointer and he
1:04:20
missed all three and then he missed another one I think as
1:04:23
well. Yeah, I think it was the front
1:04:24
end of the one-on-one after. He got fouled well.
1:04:26
It wouldn't have been one-on-one because it's pro so there
1:04:28
wouldn't have been a one-on-one. So it was like no in a bucket.
1:04:31
It was an and one that he missed.
1:04:33
And an and. One, yeah.
1:04:34
And then there was three straight foul shots and the guy
1:04:38
like he got the yips and never was able to play again at that
1:04:42
level. Like he went from being a star
1:04:43
guard. I don't like that word.
1:04:46
We don't ever, we don't ever want to hear that word ever.
1:04:50
It hurts. It hurts because it happened.
1:04:54
It happened to Chuck Noblock, famously Yankee Stadium.
1:04:57
It happened. It it's happened to more people
1:05:00
than you think. Think about Rick Ankiel.
1:05:02
Oh, I know he could. He could throw a ball from 380
1:05:05
feet, but he couldn't throw 60 feet, 6 inches.
1:05:07
Another one that a lot of people don't know is Jared
1:05:10
Salzamacchia. And he couldn't throw it back to
1:05:14
the pitcher. If we all, we're all baseball
1:05:16
fans in Major League Rube Baker, maybe you should get out the
1:05:20
Victoria's Secret catalog and and learn that.
1:05:24
And another one is Gerald Laird. If you ever watched Gerald
1:05:28
Laird, he had to throw off of his opposite foot, really.
1:05:34
And he always double pumped. If you go watch Gerald Laird and
1:05:37
I played with his brother and if you ever go watch him, he always
1:05:41
threw off of his left foot. Didn't throw off of his right
1:05:45
foot because he's right-handed. So you would throw off your
1:05:47
right foot, right. Fascinating.
1:05:49
That's wild. So he would always and if it if
1:05:52
it was a foul ball or anything, he was fine.
1:05:56
But if he if he was just receiving the ball and then went
1:06:01
to throw, it would be his left knee up and then it would be
1:06:05
like pump and then he would throw.
1:06:09
It was great. It happens to a lot of people.
1:06:11
That's why we don't like to hear the word.
1:06:14
It's a bad one. I mean, usually it's a golf
1:06:15
term, right? Like a general term is it
1:06:18
originates in golf where someone just, they can't hit a straight
1:06:21
for some reason, you know, like they're just completely out of
1:06:23
it. And probably happens to a lot of
1:06:25
golfers. We've seen it happen to guys
1:06:28
throwing the first base. We've seen it happen to guys
1:06:30
throwing, I guess to home as well as throwing back to the
1:06:33
pitcher. Foul shot, Nick Anderson.
1:06:37
We have an equivalent in in hockey or football speedy that
1:06:41
you could think of. I I imagine a lot of kickers.
1:06:44
I I. Guess kickers.
1:06:45
Yeah. Yeah.
1:06:46
Well, Vanderjack comes to mind, right?
1:06:49
Yeah. And who was it?
1:06:51
Gary Anderson. He was like perfect all year.
1:06:53
Perfect all year in the playoffs and he misses it in the playoffs
1:06:56
to Louis. Which would have given him a 10
1:06:57
point lead, which would have sealed the deal in that.
1:06:59
Game Cody Parkey. Yeah, Yep, a whole bunch of
1:07:03
people. Yeah, but Cody Parkey wasn't a
1:07:05
great kicker though. Like Anderson was a great
1:07:07
kicker. Like Cody Parkey was probably an
1:07:09
average kicker. Blair Walsh is probably the
1:07:10
bigger modern equivalent. Like, I've got one off badly.
1:07:12
What speedy this was? This was one of the worst games
1:07:18
I ever watched in football history.
1:07:20
It was the playoff game between the Giants and the 49ers, the
1:07:23
Trey Junkin game when he couldn't snap the ball back to
1:07:25
the kicker. Remember that, that you might.
1:07:28
You were probably really young. I don't, yeah, I don't think I
1:07:30
direct. Yeah, I think that was a little
1:07:31
before my time. So I think it was the year after
1:07:33
we went to the Super Bowl, we're playing the 49ers and it was a
1:07:37
field goal is either the tire to win and all game the snaps
1:07:42
weren't getting back to the the placeholder and and again, he
1:07:46
just he just rolled another one. Should have been a pass
1:07:50
interference on that play. I think they tackled Shockey or
1:07:52
something like that in the end zone some something ridiculous
1:07:55
like that, but it was absolutely terrible.
1:07:58
Yeah. So you know it was.
1:08:00
No, we had a Zack Diazzi to stabilize it after that.
1:08:04
Well, look, game game five started right now, so, you know,
1:08:08
let's just give everyone our picks and then we're gonna get
1:08:11
before we get into our guests. He's not here yet.
1:08:13
I don't. Yeah, he's in.
1:08:14
He's. In right?
1:08:14
Yeah, he's in. Perfect.
1:08:15
So we're gonna get into golf. Clap of the day in a second, but
1:08:20
let's just give everyone our picks.
1:08:21
I think the Thunder are going to win this in six.
1:08:24
But then again, I've said the Thunder were going to win it in
1:08:26
five. I thought that they were going
1:08:28
to be able to do this, you know, a little bit more handily.
1:08:30
I think at this point in the series, I like what I see out of
1:08:34
the Thunder. I think they may have solved
1:08:36
this puzzle if they shoot as well as they did last game.
1:08:39
I don't see any reason why they don't win in six.
1:08:42
What do you got, Speedy? Yeah, I had Thunder in six
1:08:43
initially. Again, I was surprised they lost
1:08:46
game one. I was thinking it was going to
1:08:47
be kind of more of a pattern. But again, we've seen it still
1:08:50
be that way to an extent, kind of those closer middle scoring
1:08:52
games. I think this one's probably a
1:08:53
little lower scoring. We've seen a slower pace to
1:08:55
start, but I think OKC still takes it to the next two.
1:08:59
And Jabba, I'm going to go Thunder in seven, Thunder in
1:09:05
seven. So we're all kind of doubting
1:09:07
the Pacers and the Haliban over there.
1:09:09
Hopefully the Haliban. The Haliban.
1:09:13
I love it. I love.
1:09:14
It bad nickname. All right, well, we got someone
1:09:16
else to talk about coming up right now and I don't see it in
1:09:20
the the yard. So let me put it up.
1:09:23
I don't think the guys figured it out.
1:09:24
Our interns are doing my job as executive producer today.
1:09:27
So let's get our next segment up and ready.
1:09:32
Although you guys got it excellent ready put it up for.
1:09:36
Valdez deserves a golf clap. No doubt.
1:09:39
Golf clap. Golf clap.
1:09:43
OK guys, today's golf clap of the day goes to Yankees
1:09:49
designated hitter returning hero John Carlos Stanton activated
1:09:56
from the IL on Monday to make a season debut tonight, giving the
1:10:00
Yankees yet another big power hitter.
1:10:03
Again, he missed the 1st for 70 games this year with tendon
1:10:06
injuries in both elbows. I've yet to hear how that
1:10:11
happens. At some point, maybe we'll find
1:10:13
out that story. Jabba I, I, maybe you'll have
1:10:16
some inside information. I, I, we've been perplexed by
1:10:19
this injury all year. Never, never heard of it.
1:10:22
So I don't know by it was it like bilateral elbow weakness or
1:10:25
something, something ridiculous like that?
1:10:27
But he wasn't couldn't swing the bat.
1:10:30
The elbows were bad, you know, He had, you know.
1:10:33
But again, remember in the post season he had seven home runs in
1:10:36
14 games. He's batting 5th tonight.
1:10:39
He's 35 years old. Look, he's Adhi.
1:10:41
Don't think they're going to run him out in the outfield anymore.
1:10:44
But the Yankees have a whole bunch of options on DH.
1:10:47
They got somewhere to play Ben Rice.
1:10:48
They're not going to play him too much at first because he got
1:10:51
Goldie. You're not going to play him too
1:10:52
much at DH because now you got Giancarlo.
1:10:54
Jason Dominguez doesn't play the field every day.
1:10:56
He's not a great outfielder, so they want to give him some DH at
1:10:59
bats. Grisham, is he going to lose
1:11:01
that bats because of this? I think probably, but again, can
1:11:06
we get Giancarlo up to speed? Because we know that all that
1:11:09
matters is the postseason and when he's healthy in the
1:11:13
postseason and he's got that timing because let's face it, if
1:11:16
you've ever rooted for Giancarlo, stand is very tough
1:11:18
guy to root for. When you watching him go and
1:11:21
he's in a slump, it looks like he's swinging A toothpick and
1:11:25
like has no chance of hitting the ball.
1:11:28
And then he seems like he can't miss it.
1:11:30
And he doesn't look like a normal swing.
1:11:32
There's not too many guys that swing a bat that look like, I
1:11:35
guess he's holding some kind of like ninja baton or something
1:11:39
because it's so small and he's so strong.
1:11:41
He just swings it so hard. And we know he's got one of the
1:11:43
top exit velocities in all of baseball.
1:11:46
The Yankees can use his bat back.
1:11:48
He's back tonight. So excited to see what happens.
1:11:52
Now just think of all of the different protection we have.
1:11:55
Judge hasn't had standing hidden behind them all season.
1:11:58
Now he does is hitting fifth. Judge I think is hitting third
1:12:02
who they have 4th. I know Rice is hitting second,
1:12:06
but regardless of who it is, that lineup gets a lot better.
1:12:09
I think they have Volpe hitting eighth tonight or 7th and then
1:12:13
Wells 8th and DJ 9th. If that's the bottom third of
1:12:17
your lineup, we're pretty good. The golf clap of the day, boys.
1:12:21
Let's give it up to the Yankees, then Giancarlo Stanton clap it
1:12:26
up. Golf clap and golf clap.
1:12:29
After these messages, we're going to get into our interview
1:12:35
with our first guest tonight. But before that sports minute
1:12:39
with the scoop, it's Tommy Poops this.
1:12:44
Is the Jabba and the Mouth sportsman ads?
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Ladies and gentlemen, it has been a minute, but like I said,
1:12:51
the College World Series has actually gone underway.
1:12:54
We have started some elimination games and earlier today it was
1:12:56
actually just announced or just concluded that Arkansas junior
1:13:00
pitcher Gage Wood actually threw a no hitter in his elimination
1:13:04
matchup versus Marie State. Wood, who was actually electric
1:13:07
on for the Razorback through a career high 19 strikeouts on 119
1:13:12
pitches on the mound, not to complete the third ever no
1:13:16
hitter game in College World Series history and the most
1:13:20
strikeouts in a nine game inning in the College World Series.
1:13:22
Wood who also was just short of a perfect game after
1:13:26
accidentally hitting a player at bat late in the game, but
1:13:30
completed his first ever full game with a no hitter to cap it
1:13:33
off. The Razorbacks will now be
1:13:36
awaiting the winner of the LSU versus UCLA game, which is
1:13:39
currently ongoing right now going over into the NFL.
1:13:43
Right now into the NFL field. Miles Garrett actually commented
1:13:47
on Dallas Cowboys linebacker Micah Parsons situation, saying
1:13:51
that he is worth every single penny.
1:13:54
Now after Garrett secured himself a four year, 160 million
1:13:58
contract this offseason, Garrett actually believes that Parson is
1:14:02
due, saying I think he deserves what he earned.
1:14:05
He is 100% committed to his craft and Parsons, who is
1:14:09
currently playing on his fifth year option earning $24 million,
1:14:13
may or may not get his contract that he so deserves with the
1:14:16
Cowboys. We shall see what Jerry Jones
1:14:20
decides within the coming weeks And to cap it off with some
1:14:23
more, I guess NFL news and a former NFL star, wide receiver
1:14:27
Antonio Brown actually just came out saying that he blames the
1:14:30
media for his warrant that is currently ongoing for his
1:14:34
attempted murder charge. Now following an incident last
1:14:37
month at a boxing event which were shots were shots where
1:14:40
police were called for shots being fired.
1:14:43
A video shows Brown in an altercation even as apparently
1:14:46
taking a security guards gun before shots were heard.
1:14:50
Brown who was previously claimed, who previously claimed
1:14:52
on social media that he was in fear for his life after he was
1:14:55
trying to get jumped for the jewelry that he had.
1:14:58
Brown took the social media to say how the F you go from being
1:15:01
victimized onto attempted murder charges.
1:15:05
You see, they control the media. Well, that's Antonio Brown in a
1:15:10
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1:15:33
guys right now. I am going to kick it back to
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Once again, this is the Fish cast.
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Tommy, thanks for giving us a shout out there in the sports
1:16:04
minute. Yep, it is me, Aaron Fishman,
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our executive producer filling in for Errol Marx tonight.
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Errol is on vacation on a cruise again, doesn't like deep water
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and he doesn't like drinking, yet he's on a cruise.
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And bro. Welcome, Frank.
1:18:24
How we doing tonight? Good man I I don't know if I
1:18:27
appreciate that intro more or how many pictures of myself are
1:18:31
on the screen. So I I that was well done bro.
1:18:35
I I appreciate the shirt by the way.
1:18:38
Thank you. I'm sure it is fire.
1:18:41
I appreciate that job. This podcast can get no better
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because Jabba Chamberlain said he liked my shirt so 20 year old
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me is just like, what in the hell is going on right now?
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So we're here for it, baby. Now the real now the real
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question, have you ever seen in your time knowing Nathan, him
1:18:56
wearing a shirt like. That.
1:18:58
I don't know, man. I thought Nathan was punking me.
1:19:01
So Nathan hits me like, yo, you want to go on Java Chamberlain's
1:19:06
podcast? And I'm like, yeah, I mean, who
1:19:09
would say no to that? I thought he was punking me.
1:19:11
So I'm, I don't know if I'm more surprised that I'm on this
1:19:14
podcast or that Nathan has never worn a shirt like this that I've
1:19:18
ever seen. So.
1:19:19
Nathan wears some interesting outfits.
1:19:21
First of all, Nathan is awful and coordinating.
1:19:26
We love him and he's great to us and we love him near and dear to
1:19:29
our hearts. But his his fits are terrible.
1:19:35
Kind of legendary in in a way. Yeah.
1:19:38
You know, there's one thing legendary about him.
1:19:40
That's his world's famous. Blue Blazer.
1:19:44
Got the Blazers, yo. He's got the Blazers, man.
1:19:48
Nathan's, Nathan's got the Blazer.
1:19:49
Game on fire. Well, listen.
1:19:52
Well, I think we could get back to Nathan.
1:19:54
Maybe we'll even invite him on near the end of the interview.
1:19:57
But I got some questions for you.
1:19:58
We want to hear from that stuff. You have an interesting life,
1:20:00
Frank. You're in Jersey.
1:20:01
You down by the shore in Jersey. Yeah, down by the Jersey Shore,
1:20:04
about an hour, 20 minutes from New York City.
1:20:09
Yeah. I grew up at the beach.
1:20:10
It's tough for me to leave there, you know, It's, it's.
1:20:13
Everyone loves the Jersey Shore, Long Island guys, Speedy, Errol,
1:20:17
that those Long Island guys, they only swear by their
1:20:20
beaches. I live in Rockland County.
1:20:21
I'm right on the Mahwah border so I go down hour. 20 hour. 30
1:20:26
go down the Parkway. I'm a Jersey Shore guy myself.
1:20:29
Tell why don't you tell these Long Islanders that are fans of
1:20:32
our show Why the Jersey Shore? We'll start there.
1:20:36
Why the Jersey Shore is superior than these beaches they have in
1:20:40
Long Island? Dude, you know, I don't, I think
1:20:42
I, I only went to Long Island like once, so I can't say why
1:20:46
theirs are less superior. I can say that the the thing I
1:20:51
like about the Jersey Shore is you can go anywhere and find
1:20:55
different stuff to do. You know, one of my side hustles
1:20:57
that I just can't give up. My lady and I both bartend at
1:21:01
the Stone Pony. I don't know if you've guys ever
1:21:03
heard of that spot. Of course, there you go.
1:21:06
But Jabba. But I bet that ain't as stiff as
1:21:08
the one I make you. Hey, look, we we are absolutely
1:21:13
willing to go on location to do. You can go to American Whiskey
1:21:17
and I guarantee you I'll make them stiffer than you do.
1:21:20
There you go. All right, all right.
1:21:22
I don't doubt that. Yeah, man.
1:21:25
So the Stone Pony. We, I love the live music venue.
1:21:28
My chick and I both bartend there.
1:21:30
The summer stage, which is like 30 nights of summer.
1:21:34
It's such a good time, you know, it, it might sound crazy to have
1:21:39
a side hustle like that when you're, you know, 41 year old
1:21:42
guy with a full time gig and, you know, my chick is also a
1:21:47
nurse. But bro, it's so much fun.
1:21:48
It it, it just being out at the beach, you know, live music,
1:21:52
5000 people. Most people are never in bad
1:21:55
moods when they're at concerts. There you go, Jabba.
1:21:57
Let's go. I mean, you see the championship
1:22:01
ring like a lot of things stop. We we went as on the as a
1:22:06
showdown to the Super Bowl and I got to see all the couple of
1:22:09
giant Super Bowl rings and I got to put on the O 7 and the 11
1:22:13
ring. I don't know which one was
1:22:14
better. I think I like the O 7 ring
1:22:16
better just because they went they beat the undefeated
1:22:19
Patriots that year. The most famous my my opinion
1:22:21
upset of the Super Bowl that I remember watching.
1:22:25
But a ring is a ring man. Like those things are awesome.
1:22:29
Well, especially, I mean, you know, not to get too down into
1:22:31
it, but I mean that O 19 man, that was that was wild to watch.
1:22:36
I was figured what I was like 2526 that season.
1:22:40
So that's when I was like right field bleachers, insane out of
1:22:44
my brain every night, You know, wherever, when anytime I can get
1:22:48
in the stadium when bald Vinny was the Bleacher creature, not
1:22:51
whoever the new guy is, who's a nice guy, nice enough guy, but
1:22:55
nobody beats bald Vinny. I mean the OG of it all, you
1:22:58
know, like if you didn't get into a near scuffle anytime
1:23:03
you're in the right field bleachers back in those days,
1:23:05
man, you left covered in beer and it was never your own.
1:23:09
My my friend, it's funny, my friend actually went to a road
1:23:12
game when the Yankees played the Phillies in the World Series, He
1:23:15
said. The Philly fans actually like
1:23:16
dumped a bunch of soda on him, like from the row behind him and
1:23:20
one of the games he was at. Oh yeah.
1:23:24
Tell everything you need to know about the Philly fans.
1:23:26
Which is not surprising. By the way.
1:23:27
Before I get to my question, I I will salute you for your service
1:23:29
as well. I know you're an Army.
1:23:30
Guy, Nah, thanks. Man, I'll get you salute.
1:23:33
Now, shifting to the biggest news of the weekend, and that
1:23:35
was the Raphael Devastator. Were you shocked?
1:23:37
Obviously the Yankees got swept initially.
1:23:39
Were you shocked the Red Sox did that after that?
1:23:43
I was, I mean, you saw a lot of the turmoil going on there with
1:23:47
the the leadership in in Evers. I mean, I don't just as a team
1:23:53
guy, I don't know how much I would have appreciated some of
1:23:55
his his approach to it. But at the end of the day, I
1:23:58
mean, he's the face of that franchise in a lot of ways and
1:24:01
has been for a while. I mean, he was the last
1:24:03
remaining guy, the World Series team.
1:24:05
I mean, I was surprised because he's a ball player.
1:24:08
I mean, that guy could hit. I don't know.
1:24:11
I'd be an interested job in your take.
1:24:13
I didn't hear if you guys were talking about it before, like
1:24:15
when a guy saying the stuff he's saying won't switch positions.
1:24:20
I mean, it does that cause a headache in the clubhouse or is
1:24:23
it just his approach with leadership is is what I'm, I
1:24:27
don't know, I mean. I well, yeah, that's what the
1:24:29
team was. The team was all very young at
1:24:31
once. They brought up three kids this
1:24:32
year, 3 rookies all at once, which I guess was
1:24:35
unconventional, but it seemed like the position thing was the
1:24:37
main thing, which it's today's game where it's so position
1:24:40
versatile. It seems surprising like you've
1:24:42
guys that could play to both corner outfield spots in first
1:24:45
base, like somebody like Bellinger, like can play all
1:24:47
those and be fine with it. And even infielders, they they
1:24:51
play second, they'll play left field, they'll play third.
1:24:54
Like it's just kind of weird in today's game that he would be
1:24:56
that fussy, I guess. You just hear sacrifice for the
1:24:59
team, right? Like you grew up playing sports,
1:25:02
you you know, I'm sure in the army, you know, it's about the
1:25:04
squad, it's about us together. It's not about any one person.
1:25:07
And when someones like, no, I'm not going to do that.
1:25:10
It's just so strange. I mean, they did pay the guy a
1:25:12
lot of money. I guess he felt entitled to say
1:25:15
that, right? They're like, well, you just
1:25:16
gave me that contract. The contract was that I was
1:25:19
going to play third base. So now maybe not.
1:25:22
It's just, I mean, when you're making over 1/4 of a billion
1:25:26
dollars, does it really matter if you're playing on the left
1:25:28
side or the right side of the diamond?
1:25:30
It's guaranteed money, isn't it Jabba?
1:25:33
It it is. But also at the same time, you
1:25:35
got to understand, and I think Frank can understand this too.
1:25:40
It's like, yeah, we have all, we have our job, but sometimes we
1:25:44
got to do other shit, yeah. Man.
1:25:46
Sometimes we have to step up and like, you know what, let me let
1:25:52
me do something else where I don't want to do it.
1:25:55
And that's a difference between good and great where men step up
1:26:01
in certain places and certain decisions where you understand,
1:26:06
it's like, let me make a sacrifice, Frank.
1:26:10
You made the greatest sacrifice for us to be able to let us do
1:26:13
what we do. And that is one of the greatest
1:26:17
things ever because I've never had the balls enough to do what
1:26:22
you did. I was able to throw a baseball.
1:26:24
Great. That don't mean a lot.
1:26:27
But also too, when it comes down to what we're talking about is
1:26:31
like, put yourself out of the money side.
1:26:38
Let's let's win because at the end of the day, we want to win.
1:26:42
Don't give a damn what it is. I don't like losing.
1:26:47
I don't care if I'm playing Uno with my son or what I'm doing.
1:26:51
I don't like to lose. So if I have to sacrifice
1:26:55
something, then that's what it is.
1:27:00
So, Frank, when you obviously being a Yankees fan and you
1:27:06
know, you're only a couple years older than me, more Gray than
1:27:11
me, though, so. I know, dog.
1:27:13
I know. I'm proud of myself.
1:27:15
Keep it. Yeah, but you got to keep
1:27:17
growing. My dad was never Gray, so like,
1:27:20
I think I got a little bit of that, but my dad couldn't grow a
1:27:23
beard either. So but he was also 100% Native
1:27:26
American, so that that didn't help either.
1:27:29
But when, when you make those sacrifices and like certain
1:27:34
things, like is there a conversation because like what
1:27:39
we've talked about today is like, do you have that or when
1:27:44
it happens, do you just react to it?
1:27:50
I mean, look, man, I, I think just in anything in life,
1:27:53
whether it's the military, professional sports, I mean,
1:27:57
Jabba, you're a parent and I fellas, I don't know if you guys
1:27:59
are, but if you are, I mean, you know, there's a lot of times
1:28:03
what you're doing on any given day changes.
1:28:05
And, and I think Jabba said it off the jump, like you got to
1:28:10
step up, You got to do what you got to do.
1:28:12
I, I, I, I was surprised how it was handled the whole way
1:28:16
around. I think the Red Sox leadership
1:28:18
in bringing him in or bringing Bregman in without a real
1:28:21
conversation and and involving Rafael might have had created a
1:28:27
little bit of unnecessary tension off the jump.
1:28:31
At the end of the day, I I think I was surprised they didn't get
1:28:34
a little bit more for him to be quite frank.
1:28:37
That to me seemed like work through the issue and especially
1:28:43
a few hours earlier, he was at the podium, right?
1:28:45
He was interviewed kind of saying like, yo, I'm here,
1:28:48
everything's great, and then he's in an Uber.
1:28:51
You know he. Literally said like if you guys
1:28:54
I'm here, I want to be here, but if you guys don't want me, I
1:28:56
don't want to play for people that don't want me and they got
1:28:58
rid of them. They clearly said they didn't
1:29:00
want him and Which? Is yeah.
1:29:03
I mean, I thought they might have got a little bit more
1:29:05
another one. Pitcher's kind of a stud, but I
1:29:07
mean Deborah's, I mean he oddly enough, when I first saw that, I
1:29:10
was like, man, I I wonder if the Yankees might get in the mix and
1:29:13
try to get who's playing third for the Giants.
1:29:17
Chapman. Yeah.
1:29:21
Yeah, so Devers gets to go over there and bat and look, Chapman
1:29:25
was a Gold Glover in the NL, Bregman was the Gold Glover of
1:29:28
the AL. He goes there.
1:29:29
It's the exact same situation for him over there.
1:29:33
Just you know, because he has 2 Gold Glove third basemans, he's
1:29:36
not going to play third base over there.
1:29:37
They have a Gold Glover in Matt Chapman that they paid a bunch
1:29:40
of money to. So he's going to be in the same
1:29:43
scenario. I bet he's the DH.
1:29:44
He'll play some third. You know, he'll back up at
1:29:47
third. He'll get some some games in
1:29:48
there, but he's not going to play a ton at third.
1:29:50
He's going to be there, DH and probably they're going to ask
1:29:53
him to play first next year, but I bet he does it to kind of
1:29:56
stick it to Boston now because. Why would?
1:29:58
Boston do that. I don't know, the trade didn't
1:30:02
make a ton of sense to me, the timing of it, just the, you
1:30:06
know, the, the haul back for them.
1:30:08
I thought if they waited a little bit longer closer to the
1:30:10
deadline, they might have been able to get a little bit more
1:30:14
for Devers. I mean, they might have also
1:30:17
been seven or eight games up over 500 at that point and, you
1:30:21
know, been in a better position for themselves.
1:30:23
So I don't know if the timing of it to me seemed off, but you
1:30:27
know, it's might be like a divorce, man, you just kind of
1:30:30
hey, we're doing it today and there is no tomorrow, man.
1:30:34
There, there is no tomorrow. So that's.
1:30:37
Yeah, we are. Hey guys, we are talking to U.S.
1:30:40
Army veteran, Associate Vice President for development of
1:30:43
Tunnel to Towers Foundation owner and operator of Upstate
1:30:46
Strategies, the public affairs professional self Mr. Frank
1:30:49
Luna. Jabba question.
1:30:51
Frank, I do honestly have a question and and it's not, I
1:30:56
wouldn't say it's it's baseball related.
1:30:58
I I think it's man related, right.
1:31:04
So when things change, and. You.
1:31:08
Understand kind of what your role is.
1:31:12
And like as we talk about sports and we talk about Shay Alexander
1:31:18
in basketball. And, and then certain guys like
1:31:24
if you were the leader or if you were the guy in the troop, like
1:31:28
how, how did you guys come together and respect that guy
1:31:34
that who was the leader because we all had him?
1:31:38
And how did you either being the leader or the guy in the troop,
1:31:45
because we're all on a team. How did you the the mental
1:31:52
capacity? How do I be better?
1:31:56
That's the one thing I want to know.
1:31:59
Job. I appreciate that, you know, and
1:32:00
my military story is a little I don't see interesting, but I
1:32:05
joined at 36 years old and I went and listed infantry in the
1:32:10
Army National Guard, which I had a college degree.
1:32:12
I'd spent years working in a professional capacity.
1:32:16
I went and listed infantries because that was kind of like
1:32:19
almost what you're saying. That was like the bottom of the
1:32:21
barrel knuckle dragon. Like that's what the Army had to
1:32:24
offer was like the guys who killed the bad guys, right?
1:32:27
Like that's what I I wanted to be.
1:32:29
And you know, I got there and I was rocking a Jimmy Buffett
1:32:31
T-shirt and I was twice the age of most of the guys there.
1:32:37
And I get off the bus and the first drill Sergeant is just
1:32:40
yelling at my face and he's like, are you lost?
1:32:43
Are you effing lost? And I'm like, man, I'm effed.
1:32:48
And I looked the guy in the eye and and I was like, no drill
1:32:52
Sergeant, just a little bit late.
1:32:55
And bro, you could have heard a pin drop and I thought I was
1:33:00
cooked at that point. I'm like, I am freaking dead.
1:33:05
And I'll tell you, man, the guy kind of looked at me and walked
1:33:09
away. And as he was walking away, you
1:33:13
like look back at me and I'm like.
1:33:17
All right, I. Didn't die.
1:33:20
You know that that's an interesting way for him to
1:33:23
respond to that. So I think to me, anytime
1:33:26
leadership gets brought up, I just say like, dude, you got to
1:33:31
you got to do what you're going to ask anybody else to do behind
1:33:34
you and that's in life. Liberty and the pursuit of
1:33:38
happiness is podcasting. You know, you got to be able to
1:33:42
cut, cut a promo and, and go to break, right and, and do all
1:33:47
those things the right way. So for me, it was all about
1:33:51
being willing to do what I had to do or that I would ask
1:33:55
anybody else to do. So I mean, just the cheesiest
1:34:01
thing we hear is kids, right? Like lead by example.
1:34:06
So I think if you do those things, people look at you and
1:34:11
and follow your lead when you're going wherever the hell it is
1:34:14
you're going. So how have you applied that
1:34:16
with some of the Yankees players that you've worked with?
1:34:18
I know Oswaldo Cabrera, Ben Rice, Will Warren, some of them
1:34:21
on the Major League roster, and then a couple of the prospects
1:34:23
as well. What type of approach?
1:34:25
Like is it something similar you would take when you were in the
1:34:28
Army to doing it with athletes? Obviously it's not the same
1:34:30
level as combat like Jabba was saying, but like it's still
1:34:33
something that you're going into like brotherhood or the team
1:34:36
culture in the locker room with, especially with a team like the
1:34:38
Yankees that has all this tradition.
1:34:41
Well, I, I never served in combat, but, you know, I was
1:34:43
activated once to the capital on January 6th, you know, after
1:34:49
that whole thing that went down there a few years ago.
1:34:51
So I, I can't speak to the combat side of things, but I
1:34:54
think in, you know, Jabba can probably talk about this, the
1:34:59
amount of events he's done over, over his career.
1:35:02
You know, three years ago, I was sitting at my kitchen table and
1:35:04
I was kind of bored and I was like, man, I wonder how hard it
1:35:07
is to do an event with a guy on the Yankees.
1:35:09
So, you know, I just emailed a bunch of people, DM, Instagram,
1:35:13
whatever the hell it was. And you know, one guy got back
1:35:15
to me and he's like, hey, Oswaldo Cabrera is going to be
1:35:17
in New Jersey, New York on December 18th.
1:35:20
I remember the date for whatever reason.
1:35:22
And he's like, here's how much it costs.
1:35:24
It's a few hours and here's what you get for it.
1:35:26
I'm like, send me the contract. And the guy's like, you know,
1:35:29
like this isn't a joke. And I'm like, dude, send me the
1:35:31
contract. Like I'm in.
1:35:32
I'm good for it and he sent me the contract, I signed it.
1:35:37
And you know, I think for my angle, I was never in and I
1:35:41
never kind of got into the whole autograph public appearance
1:35:44
athlete thing to make a ton of money for myself.
1:35:48
For me, first and foremost, treat the athlete like like the
1:35:52
guy that they are and and deserve to be treated like to
1:35:56
make sure they get paid on time, picked up the right way.
1:36:01
They're never the ones saying no to stuff that whatever you agree
1:36:04
upon beforehand is it what happens on site?
1:36:08
But a lot of that stuff, the integrity of it, I think, you
1:36:11
know, I learned in the military that was a big thing in the
1:36:13
military. Like, you know, I'm never a guy
1:36:15
that's like, yo, can you sign these 40 pieces for these kids
1:36:17
with cancer? Like that stuff's just so cheesy
1:36:20
and I hate when I see that shit. But to me, I, I worked in
1:36:26
politics and government for a long time.
1:36:28
I worked with governors, senators, congressmen.
1:36:30
So to me it was really just kind of treating the athlete the same
1:36:34
way I would treat one of those guys.
1:36:37
You know, I'm not an equal on any level, but we're, we're both
1:36:40
men. Like we're here for the right
1:36:42
reason. We're doing it.
1:36:43
We're doing this thing here. Nobody wants the athlete doesn't
1:36:46
want me to lose money because that's going to put them at risk
1:36:48
of getting paid right then and there.
1:36:50
And you know, to me it's just have a good attitude about it.
1:36:53
And the most important thing that I think it's lost just
1:36:56
generally in sports, in life, that shit's about the kids, man.
1:37:00
Like that ain't about the grown ass man who's wearing sweatpants
1:37:04
with 16 baseballs. That is about that 9 year old
1:37:07
kid who's going to look up and see Jabba Chamberlain, you know,
1:37:10
in 2008 at an ice cream shop in New York and get his picture
1:37:15
taken with him and and get an autograph.
1:37:17
So so that's kind of like my my 30,000 foot view of it.
1:37:23
You know, I feel like I've done pretty well in that space the
1:37:25
past three years. And you know, I just, I do what
1:37:30
I say I'm going to do and I do it the right way.
1:37:32
I mean, that's just really how I feel.
1:37:35
It's that shit should go, quite frankly.
1:37:39
And if it if for me too. It's like my dad worked in
1:37:43
corrections for 30 years. I grew up with Jack shit and dad
1:37:48
always said is what you give you receive and if you give respect
1:37:55
does not matter. It's like I'm I'm not curing
1:37:59
cancer I'm giving you 3 hours for you to do what you want to
1:38:03
do. You guys in your same realm and
1:38:09
I've been so fortunate enough when I had my Tommy John.
1:38:15
God bless, Doctor Andrews. Thank you so much.
1:38:20
But I got to work out with Eagle fun guys.
1:38:24
Oh, wow. Can't say who they are and what
1:38:27
they do because you can't do that.
1:38:31
But these are the best of the best.
1:38:35
And it's a mutual respect and exactly what you say.
1:38:38
It's like, just do what you do like.
1:38:42
And I don't want nothing from you.
1:38:45
Like I I honestly like the greatest joy that I ever got was
1:38:53
those dudes challenging me because I'm just a fat kid from
1:38:58
the north side of Lincoln that happened to make it a baseball.
1:39:01
If you want to come get some, come get some like I'm.
1:39:04
Good. I'm good and it was.
1:39:09
It was just fun and I think for me, like when it comes to all of
1:39:16
these things and how you know you have grown your career and
1:39:23
and what you've done and how you did it later, but it's just like
1:39:29
how. Do.
1:39:33
You not respect that factor. Like you allowed me to do what I
1:39:39
do. Like my dad was great.
1:39:42
God bless us. So I lost him three months ago
1:39:46
and but he was like, you don't take shit from nobody.
1:39:54
You may not be able to beat him up.
1:39:56
I was like, well, I don't want to fight nobody.
1:40:00
And he goes, you know what you do?
1:40:03
You do your job because they can't beat you if you do your
1:40:06
job. And I got that opportunity to do
1:40:11
that, and so did you. And it's been an absolute
1:40:14
pleasure to have this conversation because there are
1:40:18
certain dudes that you have conversations with that
1:40:21
understand certain things. And it's like an unwritten rule
1:40:26
when you meet men like that, where they don't have to say
1:40:30
what they say, but you know what they're saying.
1:40:36
Yeah, I appreciate that, John. You know, I, I don't mean to get
1:40:38
too into it, but I remember. And, you know, I think anybody
1:40:42
who ever met your dad just always had such an awesome
1:40:48
opinion of him. And, you know, I was talking to
1:40:49
my cousin Tim today and I was like, hey, man, I'm going on
1:40:53
Jabba Chamberlain's podcast tonight.
1:40:54
And he was like, dude, you remember that time we met Harlan
1:40:58
at the Yankee game and he was just so cool.
1:41:03
I'm sure we probably took, I don't, I don't even know if we
1:41:05
had camera phones back then, but like, I remember Meteor Dad and
1:41:09
and he may have been in, was he in a motorized wheelchair back
1:41:12
then or? Yeah.
1:41:14
And and we met him at the Stadium, but he always had your
1:41:16
jersey on, right? If I remember, he wore your
1:41:18
jersey. No, he he just wore a Yankee
1:41:21
hat. OK, all right.
1:41:23
And I remember we met your dad at a game and, you know, think
1:41:26
about that. My, you know, my cousin, 1516
1:41:29
years, that had to be maybe 18 years later is, you know, still
1:41:32
thinking fondly of, of Harlan, you know, all these years later.
1:41:37
So I, I, I thought you'd appreciate knowing that.
1:41:39
And you know, I know you recently lost him.
1:41:41
So I want to let you know I'm thinking of you guys.
1:41:42
And, you know, he left his mark on a lot of people, man.
1:41:45
And I know he was proud of you and that that's something that
1:41:49
you you can't buy. And and you know you've carried
1:41:51
yourself in a way that left your father proud.
1:41:54
And I will say, Frank, to you, it's like knowing that and
1:42:00
getting to spend the life I did with him.
1:42:04
And not to get emotional by any means, but Father's Day was
1:42:11
yesterday and it was, it was tough.
1:42:15
It was tough the first day without my dad and my dad was my
1:42:19
best friend and I missed him a lot.
1:42:24
Then I missed him a lot. But it was so cool because I got
1:42:32
to hear stories and I'm like, I love posting on social and, and,
1:42:38
and talking to fans. But I it was, it was something
1:42:43
that I really wanted to like. I was like, do I?
1:42:48
Post that my. Dad passed.
1:42:50
Like. That's kind of.
1:42:52
Bougie, like, oh, you're just trying to get clicks.
1:42:54
And I'm not trying to because I don't, I don't need it.
1:42:57
I don't want it. But you know the coolest thing I
1:43:01
did, and I'm so glad I did it. I'm so glad I did it because
1:43:07
there were so many pictures of my dad interacting with fans
1:43:13
that I never saw because I was on the field and I would never
1:43:18
have had that if it wasn't for and I social media's shit at
1:43:23
times because people take it a different way.
1:43:28
And that's why I didn't really want to do it at first.
1:43:32
But I was like, you know, I've kind of done some cool things,
1:43:36
so let's let's see if it works, but I really don't care.
1:43:41
Pictures that I got that I would never have seen if I did not
1:43:45
post that. And it was so cool.
1:43:48
They're like, he was great. He met us over here and, and I
1:43:53
and I put it at his memorial and it was, it was just so cool.
1:43:57
And I can't thank the fans enough and the people that have
1:44:02
followed me and have I fucked up?
1:44:06
Yes, 100%. But they stuck with me and they
1:44:13
rode with me, and we had a great run.
1:44:17
And it was really cool just to see the stories.
1:44:23
I had no idea about half of these, Dad.
1:44:28
Dad would give me half of it. He'd be like, yeah, well, I met
1:44:31
this really cool person from, you know, Rhode Island or
1:44:35
something. And I'm like, oh look, that
1:44:37
does. That doesn't tell me much, Dad,
1:44:40
sorry. Yep.
1:44:42
But I got a see all these things and and I spent a lot of time
1:44:47
and I know I couldn't get back to everybody, but for everybody
1:44:52
that did that, I am so grateful. And I am so thankful that my dad
1:45:01
got to spend that time with you guys and I got that time with my
1:45:05
father and it that's the coolest thing ever.
1:45:10
Yeah, man, and I appreciate even, you know, you saying all
1:45:13
that and and you know, my dad and I and I think we're kind of
1:45:17
we're skipping out a lot a little bit.
1:45:18
But, you know, it just kind of came to my mind.
1:45:20
And, you know, my dad and I have had an interesting relationship
1:45:24
throughout our years, like all of us, right?
1:45:26
I mean, fish, I'm sure you've had it.
1:45:27
I mean, we've all had those things, right.
1:45:29
And, you know, yesterday I drove down and, and had lunch with my
1:45:35
parents and, you know, you got to, you got to keep going.
1:45:40
And, and your parents at the end of the day are, are kind of like
1:45:42
the the only two who stand behind you.
1:45:45
And you know, in some cases 1, you know, where, you know, it
1:45:49
might just be your dad and, or your mom And, and you know,
1:45:53
Java, you said you've messed up, man.
1:45:55
Everyone has, you know, we all have.
1:45:57
And you know, at the end of the day, all we got is just 24 hours
1:46:01
every single day to try to do, do right.
1:46:04
And, you know, I remember I was talking to this one guy once.
1:46:06
You're kind of one of my mentors in life.
1:46:09
And he said to me like these, it's just crazy.
1:46:12
He's like, if you go through any given day and make it to the end
1:46:16
of the day, that's miracle number one in your life.
1:46:22
If you make it to any given day and you helped one person that
1:46:26
day, that's miracle #2 Every single one of us has the chance
1:46:32
at 2 miracles every 24 hours. And dude, I got to tell you,
1:46:36
when he put that to me that way, I was like, holy shit.
1:46:39
Like that just made so much sense to me.
1:46:42
Like wow man, all I got to do is make it through today and help
1:46:45
one person and you know, to just kind of wrap all that stuff up
1:46:49
like another. We go through bad stuff so we
1:46:52
can help other people go through bad stuff, you know, and whether
1:46:55
it's the loss of a parent, it's, you know, something through your
1:46:58
career or something in your personal life.
1:47:00
I guarantee you every one of us like have done something not
1:47:03
great that we're going to help somebody go through something
1:47:07
similar, you know, at some point in our life.
1:47:09
So I don't know how this just got so deep but.
1:47:12
I didn't expect us to get this deep, frank man.
1:47:15
Look. It's all right.
1:47:17
You know, Java, we were going to do a Father's Day segment, you
1:47:20
know, but we're kind of doing it now.
1:47:22
There you have. It, it's, it's actually better
1:47:24
than anything I had written because how can you write
1:47:26
something so pure and emotional like that?
1:47:29
For me, You know, I'm very thankful my father's still here.
1:47:31
I, I coach football up at near West Point.
1:47:34
I have a lot of kids that half of them move on the Army base.
1:47:37
I'm an offensive defensive line coach, kind of offensive
1:47:40
assistant. I've been doing it for a long
1:47:41
time. It's such a joyful thing to be
1:47:44
able to coach kids whose parents are in the Armed Services.
1:47:48
You know, it's like an extra responsibility.
1:47:50
Obviously you get a lot less talking back to you on a
1:47:53
football field than you do in certain, certain places that
1:47:56
I've coached a little, trained a little differently over here.
1:48:00
But you know, I bring up coaching because you have some
1:48:04
background in strength and conditioning and especially when
1:48:07
we talk about baseball and I see it in football all the time.
1:48:10
But in baseball, there's all these elbow injuries, There's
1:48:14
all these Tommy John injuries. We see these stop these young
1:48:18
pitchers, these stud pitchers. This year was Jackson Job was
1:48:21
supposed to be the next guy. As soon as we hear a flexor
1:48:25
tendon strain, we we all know what that means at this point.
1:48:28
We they got to stop with these fake names for a torn elbow, by
1:48:32
the way, we call it every time on this show.
1:48:35
Yeah, we, we like call it at this the last the last three
1:48:39
we've called them. So my question to you, Frank, I
1:48:42
I remember, you know, the story of a rod warming up with a
1:48:45
football at Yankee Stadium because he wanted to train the
1:48:49
other ligaments and muscles in his elbow surrounding the ones
1:48:52
he uses to play baseball with. And I, I was wondering if you
1:48:56
had any experience with training athletes, especially baseball
1:49:00
athletes to try to like, you know, you see all this like the
1:49:04
fall ball, the 24/7, they're playing all year round.
1:49:08
They're doing the same motion. These guys blow out their arms
1:49:10
by the time they're in rookie ball or by the time that, and
1:49:13
they never end up having that career.
1:49:15
What, how much of that do you see?
1:49:17
Do you train baseball athletes? But you know, we see it in all
1:49:19
sports, overtraining and things like that.
1:49:22
Yeah, I mean, I don't really train individual athletes.
1:49:25
I'm a I'm a partner in strength and conditioning facility.
1:49:29
You know, a lot of the guys who work out there got a lot of
1:49:32
college athletes that train there.
1:49:36
And I think you kind of touched on a fish when kids at a very
1:49:39
young age are thrown harder and a lot more than maybe their arms
1:49:43
were meant to. My stepson is 9 years old and
1:49:48
that kid like this year was his first year of Little League and
1:49:54
like the same 3 kids pitched every game.
1:49:56
I was just like, I'm like, what are we doing here, man?
1:50:01
Like these kids are 9 and it was like a wreck Little League, like
1:50:06
the same kids pitched every game.
1:50:08
So I, I think that's a huge part of it.
1:50:09
I, I think they're throwing the velocity's up, right?
1:50:12
I mean, these kids are throwing harder in high school and
1:50:15
college and they I think have thrown in quite some time.
1:50:20
So I think that's just overuse, man.
1:50:22
And and for the wrong reasons like that, you know, like, come
1:50:27
on, dude, nine years old. These kids are shouldn't be
1:50:30
thrown 70 pitches. I mean, it's funny, quick story,
1:50:34
but that might my girlfriend's fiance's son.
1:50:39
I just got engaged. You know, he asked his coach if
1:50:42
he could pitch. Congratulations.
1:50:44
Congratulations. Appreciate that voice.
1:50:45
Thank you, Thank you, thank you, Thank you.
1:50:49
There it is, John. Here you go.
1:50:52
I'm I'm joining the club. It's something it's.
1:50:54
Exclusive club, You know you got it Speedy Where you at?
1:50:58
Speedy Where you at? Speedy's?
1:50:59
Speedy's a little bit away from that right now.
1:51:02
Unfortunately, a. Little might be a strong speedy.
1:51:04
Do you have any prospects? No.
1:51:07
No, no current prospects for Speedy, unfortunately.
1:51:11
We're working none that he knows.
1:51:13
We're working. On well, we're trying.
1:51:14
No, no. We're trying.
1:51:15
We know you. Sign me up.
1:51:16
And Frank Speedy, where do you live?
1:51:19
Frank, Frank, you're you're. Speedy, where do you live at?
1:51:21
Well, I'm on Long Island, my family's, my immediate family's
1:51:24
in Connecticut. But your, your, your buddy
1:51:26
Niffitt is trying to be like, he's trying to scout out some
1:51:30
other prospects for sure. He's trying to make it always
1:51:33
seem like he's going. To be a white.
1:51:34
Man, yo. We got to take him to the
1:51:36
jersey. Shore, Here's what I'm going to
1:51:37
do Speedy. I'm going to send you a link to
1:51:40
the Stone Pony Summer stage. You like concerts?
1:51:42
A. Bunch of them.
1:51:43
Yes, I've I've been a. Bunch of concerts.
1:51:46
If he's a you're a concert guy, I'm going to send I'm going to
1:51:48
send you a link to this thing You pick the night of the
1:51:53
concert that you want to come to.
1:51:55
I'm going to give you a spot right next to my bar.
1:51:58
I'm going to put you on my I get 2 tickets per night.
1:52:01
I'm giving you 1 ticket, you can use the other as a date and then
1:52:06
you'll know a bartender. You got AVIP ticket, You're in
1:52:11
early. You know the bartender.
1:52:13
This old guy's throwing drinks at you all night.
1:52:16
Or is it a is it a free tab, Frank?
1:52:19
Is it a free tab hell? Yeah, I'm Kelly.
1:52:21
Yeah, I got him job, but. I'm not even my guess.
1:52:24
Bro, I mean shit, he's my guest. I'm not going to charge him, put
1:52:27
him on my tab. I'm going to cover his drinks.
1:52:30
And then you could either bring a chick, which that's kind of
1:52:34
cool. Like you bring a chick, you get
1:52:35
a hotel room not far, say, hey, we're going to have a couple
1:52:37
drinks. We're going to go to this
1:52:39
concert. I know this guy works.
1:52:41
Write all this down speedy. No, you don't.
1:52:43
Write it down. Text it to him.
1:52:45
Even better. And then you get a, you get like
1:52:48
$120.00 hotel room somewhere nice, maybe a little more money
1:52:52
since you're saving money on a concert and you don't have to
1:52:54
worry about no food or anything at night.
1:52:57
Just eat a pretzel when you're there.
1:52:59
Or you come with your one of your like one of your good
1:53:01
friends who's like a good guy and then you guys can.
1:53:05
What do you mean? What do you mean good though,
1:53:07
Frank? Like what do?
1:53:09
You know this. You know this.
1:53:12
We. All have.
1:53:13
We all have men in our life that if we go to a concert and we
1:53:16
have an open bar at it, it's not going to go well.
1:53:22
But we do have men in our life that we know if we do this,
1:53:26
we'll get through the night OK and there will be no issues.
1:53:28
So my offer to Speedy, you tell me you want 1 ticket, you just
1:53:35
come and then you meet a nice young lady there that night or
1:53:39
you get 2 and you have a cool date night at the Jersey Shore.
1:53:42
It's on you bro. You don't even need to call now.
1:53:44
But I'm just saying that that that's, that's that's about a
1:53:48
good offer as you're going to get on a night like tonight.
1:53:50
So. I mean, I don't I don't know how
1:53:53
much better that gets Speedy, speedy.
1:53:56
That's that's like an all inclusive right there all.
1:53:58
Inclusive night in Asbury Park, buddy.
1:54:00
I'm not buying your hotel room and I'm not going home with you,
1:54:03
but you'll. I wasn't going to ask.
1:54:05
Speedy, Speedy. I will.
1:54:07
I will. I will buy your hotel room.
1:54:09
Look at this. It gets better.
1:54:11
Speedy, I will buy. I will buy your hotel room.
1:54:15
Yep, and I can't. We can't wait.
1:54:18
So look, Frank, we love having you on.
1:54:20
We're going to. I just got one more thing for
1:54:22
you. But we, you know we.
1:54:23
Don't know how we're going to top that.
1:54:25
I don't know how we're going to top that.
1:54:28
All I'm going to do is I'm going to top that by asking you about
1:54:30
your new, your new gig that you have with tunnels, tunnel to
1:54:34
towers. Can you tell us a little bit
1:54:35
about what you're doing over there and what that that
1:54:38
foundation is all about? Yeah, man, you know, it's, it's
1:54:40
really God works in mysterious ways.
1:54:43
I never expected to be working with this foundation, you know,
1:54:46
you know, they do literally the the Lord's work.
1:54:49
So there's a few aspects of what Tunnel Towers Foundation is
1:54:53
doing. First and foremost, if you're a
1:54:56
service member or a first responder who gets killed in the
1:54:59
in the line of duty, Tunnel Towers Foundation comes in, they
1:55:04
pay the family's mortgage off, they make sure the kids are able
1:55:07
to stay in their home. And you know, there's no issues
1:55:09
around that. If a service member or first
1:55:13
responder is injured catastrophically, tunnel to
1:55:16
towers, we'll build them a smart home.
1:55:19
Which as you can imagine, you know, this isn't something you
1:55:22
would think about unless you know, guys or women who have
1:55:24
gone through it. You know, say you're a Sergeant
1:55:27
in the Army, you got a 7 year old kid and you're married and
1:55:32
you lose your leg in combat or a training accident.
1:55:36
You can't really live in the house you were living in before
1:55:38
that. You know, you're going to need a
1:55:40
job. You know, from from having, you
1:55:42
know, Harlan is your dad. You know, there's adjustments
1:55:44
that need to be made to the home and so total towers will come in
1:55:48
make sure that the the home is outfitted correctly for, you
1:55:53
know, to deal with that injury. OK, so Frank tell us how how our
1:55:58
fans and everybody can get involved with that like website
1:56:03
or whatever it is like let us know how we can because.
1:56:07
We'll. Do this on the show because that
1:56:10
for me is like going to dad's house and understanding how I
1:56:17
had to make his house and you guys sacrificing your life and,
1:56:23
and, and sometimes changes happen, right?
1:56:27
So let us know how we can help you guys like website wise, if
1:56:31
there's something that we can do that we can post and, and, and
1:56:35
do everything and I can do and from my family to yours, I will
1:56:40
100% do that. And so just let me know.
1:56:43
Appreciate you guys. Yeah, I mean, you know, T2 t.org
1:56:47
is the website. You know, there's a really big
1:56:50
push. There were so many people trying
1:56:52
to reach out, you know, hey, how can we help?
1:56:55
So they wanted to make it, you know, sometimes when you're
1:56:58
doing charity stuff, you're like, you know, if I donate 10
1:57:00
bucks, does it really even matter?
1:57:02
Well, they've got a an effort where an initiative to donate
1:57:07
$11.00 a month and you know dude, you sign, sign up on your
1:57:12
credit card or your debit card. 11 bucks a month is is easy to
1:57:15
spend. Way too much money that waste.
1:57:18
Like we can do that. Yeah, yeah.
1:57:20
So it, you know, it's a really manageable amount for most
1:57:24
folks. And you know, that's a really
1:57:26
good way to, to contribute and the money, you know, over 90% of
1:57:31
the money. You should see our offices like
1:57:32
we're, I say it like a cubby. You know, we're about to like
1:57:36
this big fancy office space in, in Manhattan.
1:57:39
We're like literally job, I shit you not.
1:57:41
We're in Staten Island and we're next to a tanning salon and a
1:57:47
hair hair salon. So it's like the most Staten
1:57:52
Island thing in the world. There's at least you're next to
1:57:55
a hair salon because you have hair because I don't.
1:57:58
Your hairline is fantastic. I appreciate that job I need.
1:58:01
That I got I got crickets. Why do you think I always like I
1:58:04
got a great beard? I wish I could transfer some of
1:58:07
this here. I know it don't work though.
1:58:10
But I feel good at 41, you know, my, you know, we're my old man
1:58:14
still has his hair. All right, So, you know, one of
1:58:16
the few good things my dad gave me was his hairline.
1:58:18
I guess so. I will I will say this and I
1:58:22
know we we had a Father's Day segment, but when they put dad
1:58:26
to rest, they had him in a comb over and I'm like, no, dad wore
1:58:31
hats. Get out of here.
1:58:33
We are not doing. That.
1:58:35
Yo and by the job I have got to correct this because you'll love
1:58:39
this story even more. My I try to stay off the phone
1:58:42
when we're doing something like this.
1:58:43
So my cousin texted me. I misremembered the story about
1:58:48
your dad. My cousin was wearing your
1:58:51
jersey and asked Harlan to autograph it and he did.
1:58:58
How about I did. So I want to tell a great story
1:59:03
and fish, I'm killing your segment.
1:59:05
Sorry. No, no, we're we're going to
1:59:07
just do it right here, right now.
1:59:09
In fact, you know what? I'll put up the graphic for it.
1:59:12
And so my dad was with us in 2010 when we got our rings, My
1:59:24
father, Ward, every day, every day.
1:59:30
And my dad asked my son two things.
1:59:34
Not even me, because I was going to bury my dad with this ring
1:59:40
because he wore it every day. And Carter said he wanted to
1:59:46
keep it. And he asked him about his
1:59:51
house. And my son wanted to keep that
1:59:54
as well. You know what I did and I know I
2:00:00
devalued the ring. I took a diamond out of it
2:00:07
because Dad's not here anymore and I will never replace it and
2:00:13
I won't care because this is the man that got me to where I'm at
2:00:19
and I'm good with that. I'm good and I will never
2:00:24
replace. It.
2:00:26
Because when I always look at it, and now that I have it, I
2:00:33
will always think of my father. And I love my dad and I think
2:00:37
about him every day. But when my son gets it, he gets
2:00:43
to see a hole in it and he gets to think about his choke up,
2:00:47
which is so as Native Americans, choke his grandfather in our
2:00:51
language. And so I go, Carter, when I
2:00:57
pass, you take another diamond out and then you pass it on to
2:01:04
yours. My dad was the man.
2:01:08
My dad was the shit. Job thanks for sharing that man
2:01:13
I I I. Appreciate.
2:01:15
That and you know, you said you may have devalued the the ring
2:01:18
man. If anything, you made it more
2:01:20
valuable, you know, and what a cool heirloom and and story for
2:01:24
your boy. And you know that that's that's
2:01:27
life, man. He was supposed he was supposed
2:01:29
to be on the show with us today because we got immediate pass
2:01:32
for him. Thanks Nathan.
2:01:33
Love you. But Carter's like, at the lake
2:01:37
and hanging out with his girlfriend and doing all the
2:01:39
other stuff and how? Old is he, John?
2:01:41
I guess I would probably be doing that when I'm 19 too.
2:01:45
So 19? Holy cow.
2:01:46
Wow. A sophomore in college.
2:01:49
Sophomore in college. That's awesome, man.
2:01:52
I'm not mistaken, we had a a picture of him at one point in
2:01:56
college. There it was.
2:01:57
Oh wow. There's Carter down there.
2:01:59
In the middle. That's from one of the first
2:02:02
episodes. Oh, but it came in.
2:02:04
Yeah. Remember that when he came here,
2:02:06
Carter's right next to our logo. Yeah.
2:02:08
Yeah, right next to the logo. He was in the backseat with his
2:02:11
buddies. They were doing what college
2:02:14
kids do probably. Oh yeah.
2:02:18
Well, Frank, listen, man, we had a great time having you on.
2:02:21
Love to have you on again. You know any time to come talk
2:02:25
about anything going on with the Yankees or you know anything
2:02:28
doing with your what you're doing over here with tunnels to
2:02:31
tunnel to towers Foundation. We're just so appreciative of
2:02:36
magnificent job tonight man Thanks for.
2:02:37
Coming. It's you guys yo hold up every
2:02:40
good job. What were you saying also?
2:02:42
Let us know how we can help in any way in any way.
2:02:47
Joe, you ever make it back out to to the East Coast?
2:02:49
Get out. I'm going to get out once I get
2:02:52
Carter back to college. Cool.
2:02:55
Yeah, man, I'm going to. Spend the summer, yeah.
2:02:57
Yeah, fans would love to see you out here too, man, There's no
2:03:00
doubt about it. But yeah, we'll we'll figure
2:03:03
something cool out. And you know, Speedy, don't
2:03:06
think you're off the hook because you're on mute, dawg.
2:03:08
Like I'm not on me. I mean, I'm going to send you.
2:03:11
I'm not on mute. I'm.
2:03:12
Going to send you that. I'm going to send you that
2:03:13
calendar of all the concerts and you better let my ass know.
2:03:17
All right, hold on, This is the leash legend.
2:03:22
You see this, Jabba? Can you see this?
2:03:25
The leash legend. That's my cousin showing you
2:03:27
the. Picture I got arrested.
2:03:30
I'm showing you the jersey your dad's on.
2:03:32
That's awesome. That is awesome.
2:03:34
I got arrested in that sweatshirt.
2:03:38
Yep. My cousin probably got arrested
2:03:40
in that jersey, so don't feel bad.
2:03:42
Perfect. Works.
2:03:44
That's pretty. Funny.
2:03:44
No, Frank, What up? What up missing?
2:03:47
What's up, man? Thank you for joining.
2:03:48
Legend. Yeah.
2:03:49
Thank you. For the legend of the leaf.
2:03:51
All these guys, I thought you were pranking me.
2:03:53
Why would I prank you man? I would never prank you like
2:03:55
that no, but I know true like truly thank you for joining man.
2:04:01
This was like really impactful. So I.
2:04:05
Appreciate you man. Yeah, I'll see you on this
2:04:07
weekend. No, me, man, I'll be running
2:04:10
around, run around somewhere. Can you guys hurry up because I
2:04:14
got to pee. Yeah, me too.
2:04:16
Yeah, us old guys got to go to the bathroom.
2:04:18
Let us get off. If it came in to purposely
2:04:20
impact your bladder. Guys, that was and final read
2:04:27
off for you, Frank. That's Army, U.S.
2:04:29
Army Veterans Associate Vice President for development of
2:04:32
Tunnel to Towers Foundation, owner and operator of Upstage
2:04:34
Strategies, public affairs professional.
2:04:36
Mr. Frank Luna. Thanks so much for joining us,
2:04:39
Frank. Audio sports appreciation.
2:04:41
Have a good night. Later.
2:04:43
Later, guys. All right, let's get back into
2:04:46
some stories. Nathan, you want to talk sports?
2:04:50
Do you know anything about Shohei Otani?
2:04:53
Yeah. He's all right, good.
2:04:54
Wait your turn and we're going to get into it.
2:04:56
Right now. The Dodgers are starting Shohei
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Otani tonight. The game starts in about 1/2
2:05:03
hour. He's going to return to the
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mound versus the Padres. He's only going to throw, you
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know, a couple of innings, probably tonight, no more than
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two. They were saying that it's
2:05:13
actually a little bit easier for him to rehab this way instead of
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ramping up to pitch and then having to take a day off to be
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ADH. This is actually easier for him
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and I'll let him get more at bats.
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The organization thinks it's better for his body as well.
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The Dodgers have 14 pitchers on the IL, including four of their
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starters. It's been 21 months since the
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Tommy John surgery, his 2nd on his pitching arm, and he hasn't
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pitched since August 21st, 2023. Otani in his career has a three
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O 1 ERAA, one O 8 WHIP, and 608 strikeouts and 86 starts.
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Wow. Shohei Otani is back to being a
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two way superstar for now. For the first time the Los
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Angeles Dodgers, he's only going to be an opener.
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He's probably not going to be ramped up until after the All
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Star break. But again, he's pitching.
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There's a video and I think I'm going to get one of the interns
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to put it up in a little bit. It's him pitching a new pitch.
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I guess it's a 2 seamer. We'll have to get Jabba on it,
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but it's like breaking down and in to a right-handed hitter
2:06:25
coming from a right-handed pitcher, almost like a
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screwball. But it's I'm pretty sure it's
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like similar to the chin Ming Wong 2 seamer, just going a lot
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harder than chin Ming went ever threw it here.
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Here's the clip right here. If we can get it up, just take a
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look at some of this movement on the Actually, that's just him
2:06:41
celebrating it, but it dives. Yeah, that's definitely. 2 feet
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inside. If he can pitch at let's say by
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the time he gets to the All Star break, he's going 5 innings a
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game, right? Say he's about 5 in a six inning
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guy. I don't expect him to go deeper
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into games than six innings at any point this season, right?
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I I don't think that's the mission for them.
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The mission is they need pitching.
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He can pitch, he can help, at least right now.
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And when he's fully healthy, he might be their best pitcher
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because he's that good. Now, if he's the best pitcher,
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speedy, and he's doing what he's doing at the plate, which by the
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way isn't bad, in case you haven't noticed his stats at the
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plate, speedy, I'm sure you're going to give them to me in a
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minute. There are literally maybe three
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people in the world that can do what he's doing at the plate and
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then there's no one who could do it at the same time while he's
2:07:35
at the mound. Will he stay healthy?
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Will he be able to do this for a long time?
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Well, the Dodgers bet a whole lot of money, deferred money
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that he would. So this is the beginning.
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This is what the real test is. Look, 5050 was great as ADH.
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It was good enough for the for the MVP.
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But what you could do as a top three hitter in the league and
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perhaps a top ten pitcher is what would even surpass Judge,
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what he's doing this year. I know Errol when he's on.
2:08:07
Errol doesn't want to say that Judge isn't as good as Otani,
2:08:09
but if we get the top ten pitcher and a top three hitter,
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that's more value, especially in WAR to a team then just as a
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good outfielder who's one of the greatest hitters we've ever
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seen. Yeah, I have to admit that.
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Yeah, the two way, the two way player was always the
2:08:25
fascinating dynamic when he came into the league as it was.
2:08:27
And I had a actually oddly enough at the time, he loves
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them now. I had an argument with with Jeff
2:08:33
because I was thinking he I was very high on Otani.
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He's like always going to get hurt.
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Is it going to work? And obviously he has gotten
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hurt, but his peak form has been still very good to look at.
2:08:41
Yeah, you look at a top ten pitcher, I think the biggest
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stat with him is strikeouts per 9 innings have been over 11
2:08:46
pretty consistently his whole career and 608 strikeouts like
2:08:50
you mentioned total. And now you add another pitch in
2:08:52
the arsenal. If that two seamer is as
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effective as it could be. It's definitely interesting.
2:08:57
It shows that he's working in his craft too.
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Like he knows that even his peak form as a pitching is still
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could be something that could be redeveloped, especially after
2:09:03
two surgeries. We see it all the time, like how
2:09:06
good pitchers will be able to come back from having surgeries
2:09:09
like that, having it multiple times as well.
2:09:12
So adding that in your arsenal to go along with the amount of
2:09:15
hard curve balls, hard fastballs that he has had and that level
2:09:19
of pitching is going to create it.
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In addition, like you said, the hitting stats where he had an
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OPS of one point O3 four this year, OPS plus is 189 on the
2:09:27
year. So you're dealing with stats
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that are a little bit far behind, a little bit behind the
2:09:33
previous two years, his last year with the Angels, OPS1O66
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and he won the MVP last year, obviously winning the MVP with
2:09:40
the historic 5050 year. And now you're adding some
2:09:43
pitching into that. Now you're right, he's not going
2:09:45
to be like driven for length. I don't think any of these
2:09:48
Dodgers pitchers really at this point are going to be driven for
2:09:50
length because they feel like they have the enough rotational
2:09:53
depth, they have enough organizational like versatile
2:09:55
relievers type. And I think that's a good thing
2:09:57
for the mindset too, for somebody that could either be
2:10:00
like a super, I guess you would call it like a super reliever, a
2:10:04
super opener, however you want to do it for postseason strategy
2:10:07
because we've seen Dave Roberts do that a lot.
2:10:09
So we've seen him bringing starters out of the bullpen in
2:10:13
playoff game. Sometimes it's works, sometimes
2:10:15
it hasn't. And that's the weapon that Otani
2:10:17
could bring if he gets back to that peak form as a pitcher.
2:10:20
And it's like I said, especially if it develops into that 2
2:10:22
starter, 2 seamer, the extra pitches that he could do, it
2:10:26
brings him another weapon in the postseason.
2:10:28
Now, like you were saying, they have 14 other pitchers hurt
2:10:31
right now, so they're going to have to play around with the
2:10:33
depth as it is. How they did it last was very
2:10:36
impressive because I I was, I was high on them the way they
2:10:39
were doing it in 23 and they still lost in the playoffs.
2:10:42
So I was picking against him a lot last year in the postseason
2:10:45
and the Dodgers pitching, we knew their bullpen was good, but
2:10:48
their starting pitching was still questionable.
2:10:50
It would it proved me wrong. But again, it's another
2:10:53
challenge. Just like you said, it's Sasaki
2:10:55
hurt now Snell, he's always streaky as it is.
2:10:58
Could he come back the same? But Otani now being here, at
2:11:01
least if he gets back to that form, like he said, top 10, top
2:11:05
15 pitcher form with that high strikeout rate, it gives you
2:11:08
options to be able to be that either super open or super
2:11:11
reliever come playoff time. No matter what seed they end up
2:11:14
in the playoffs. Because we were talking about
2:11:15
before, that's a very competitive NLS.
2:11:17
But obviously the Dodgers, with all the all the talent and all
2:11:20
the deferred money they have, still the favorites.
2:11:23
I I, it's just interesting to me like when Errol says like the
2:11:30
best if, if he, if he can go both sides, it might be a little
2:11:36
early. But at the same time, like I
2:11:40
don't know if it is because we have somebody that's doing
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something that nobody's ever done.
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Babe Ruth is the last person to do it.
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And so if we get that is it's is he that is he that dude?
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And can he keep it in fish? I agree.
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Like if he can give you like he's going to open and they're
2:12:09
probably going to give him what probably I would, I would say
2:12:12
6060 pitches probably is what he had 44 in a simulated start his
2:12:19
last time out in three innings. So so it'd be 6560, something
2:12:22
like that. Yeah, it'd be 65.
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And that's kind of the progression of what we've done.
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Like when we have Tommy John and he hasn't thrown since 23.
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So I think he's I think he's going to get probably 65.
2:12:44
And if he goes out and shoves it up their ass.
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But does that really mean anything?
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I look at it two ways. Yes, he's on the mound and yes,
2:12:55
he is a presence. But if they're going to extend
2:12:59
him, what is that going to mean, You know?
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And I honestly don't know what that is because, shit, my first
2:13:09
at bat, JJ Hardy hit a home run off me.
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And coming off Tommy John, you just don't know.
2:13:16
Because yeah, I can throw against my teammates and I can
2:13:19
throw in rehab games and I can do that.
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But it's different when you get to the big leagues.
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It's different when you get to the big leagues.
2:13:28
So what's he going to be able to do?
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Let's see what happens. And I know Errol will argue this
2:13:36
with me and I hope he's having a fantastic time on his cruise
2:13:40
with Brittany and everybody. But if he comes back and does
2:13:44
the shit that he has done on the mountain, because you look at
2:13:48
his lifetime ERA, the man balls out.
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And so it just, I don't know what he's going to do.
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I don't know how he's going to respond.
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So let's see what happens and he's going to do it.
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And I, I'm excited, obviously. And I'm waiting for it to come
2:14:14
on because they're they should be on here in about an hour or
2:14:20
so. And he's.
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He's just a. Different anomaly and I just
2:14:29
think we haven't seen a character like this and that's
2:14:32
what I've said. I was like, I am not
2:14:34
discrediting judge by any means, being the best player by any
2:14:37
means, but if he comes back and does.
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Maybe. Does half of what he does right?
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Half. He's still the best player in
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the fucking planet. How do you deny that?
2:14:55
You know what's crazy? He separated his shoulder in the
2:14:58
playoffs and yeah, sliding in second, sliding in 2nd, and
2:15:02
wasn't particularly good in the World Series.
2:15:05
That was terrible. Well, I mean, he's playing with
2:15:07
one arm, you know what I mean? Judge hasn't been good in the
2:15:09
playoffs either, so no. But what I'm saying is we didn't
2:15:13
even get a healthy Otani and lost the World Series to them.
2:15:16
Now they get this guy perhaps at the peak of his powers again.
2:15:21
He's, I mean, he was a killer. If I'm not mistaken, the Mets
2:15:26
had trouble with him in the NLCS.
2:15:28
Speedy. I'm not mistaken.
2:15:30
The Mets had trouble with him in the beginning of the series.
2:15:32
He kind of cooled off a little bit after that.
2:15:34
But there are other guys that heated up.
2:15:36
Maximalsi and Tommy Edmond and a bunch of other guys heated up
2:15:38
after that and the Mets, and it's a good.
2:15:41
Player Look, Otani Otani is this is the the superstar for a team
2:15:48
that didn't need him to win the World Series.
2:15:51
Now they have him. The pitching needs to get
2:15:53
healthy. I expect Snell to come back in a
2:15:55
month or so. We I think this was always going
2:15:58
to happen with Snell at some point early in the contract.
2:16:00
He was going to miss. We knew he's going to miss.
2:16:02
Time. Yeah, he's always like at the
2:16:04
first year of like a new team. It's bad.
2:16:07
That's good. Lazno.
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I don't know if he's, you know, look, he's damaged goods.
2:16:11
We know that. Hopefully he can get himself
2:16:13
healthy. They got a lot of guys that they
2:16:16
have so much, they spent so much money, they can keep putting
2:16:19
guys out there. It's amazing.
2:16:20
No other franchise would have lost 14 pitchers, 4 starters and
2:16:25
still be at the top of their division the way that they are
2:16:28
unless they had this murderous row.
2:16:29
Freddie Freeman, you know, he didn't have a great regular
2:16:33
season last year, is battling some injuries.
2:16:35
He's pretty good again. I mean, we saw it in the World
2:16:38
Series. He hit that Grand Slam in game
2:16:40
one that none of us are going to forget for a long time.
2:16:43
You know, he hit he hit one of those home runs in every single
2:16:45
game of the series. Doesn't even matter.
2:16:46
Didn't even need to because he killed us.
2:16:49
It was it was almost the same thing as Halliburton hitting
2:16:51
that shot against the Knicks or even game one against the
2:16:54
Thunder where that Grand Slam at that was the biggest momentum
2:16:58
bust. Just absolute kill shot that
2:17:01
I've seen in the World Series game one a long time.
2:17:04
You would have to go back to like what's the biggest game one
2:17:08
or we get to go back to the the Kurt Gibson, you know, on one
2:17:11
with two bad legs, as Vin Scully said at the time, right, hitting
2:17:16
that walk off home run all those years ago.
2:17:18
Those are the 35 years ago now. I mean what he did is remarkable
2:17:22
and they didn't even use Otani. This Dodger team is just they've
2:17:29
got to be prohibitive favorites. If you can get good money on
2:17:32
them right now. When guys are hurt, do it now at
2:17:35
this. We don't have let's parlay till
2:17:37
till Thursday but I'm telling you right now.
2:17:40
I don't see. Far Away debut.
2:17:42
I don't see it. I no no other team really blows
2:17:46
me away. The Giants are trying.
2:17:47
They know Buster Posey knows that.
2:17:49
He's not getting past the Dodgers unless he beefs up that
2:17:51
lineup. Now he's got Devers.
2:17:53
I don't think it's enough yet, but I like to see teams do that.
2:17:57
The Padres didn't really add this year and Michael King this.
2:18:01
They just said don't expect him back anytime soon.
2:18:04
We might not see him. Jabba, he's one of the guys that
2:18:06
we mentioned. I don't think he's gonna pitch
2:18:09
this year. I don't think so either.
2:18:11
It's some kind of shoulder thing.
2:18:14
Upper scapula. They don't know exactly.
2:18:16
Those are tough, too. That's three months.
2:18:19
Regardless, Louise Heel has been out with something like that all
2:18:22
year. I don't think we'll get him back
2:18:24
to after probably after the All Star break.
2:18:28
Yeah, probably I I would say August, honestly, mid to late
2:18:32
July, early August, I would think cuz like how are you
2:18:34
supposed to like job? I've never had that injury and
2:18:37
tried to throw a baseball. You know, have you ever had like
2:18:40
an upper like upper latch strain like that?
2:18:43
I've never had that. I've had an oblique and a
2:18:46
shoulder and obviously having an ankle.
2:18:48
I've had an elbow that a knee. I've never had that.
2:18:53
So I, I can't speak on that and I don't know, but if they're out
2:18:59
this long, it's going to be extended because if it wasn't,
2:19:08
it'd be like, Oh my, like, I mean, I get knots in my
2:19:12
shoulder, but like when you get it in your scap it, it throws
2:19:18
both things off. So if they're not doing it and
2:19:24
they're out this long, why are they not back yet?
2:19:28
It's it's deeper than that. And that's why we've called the
2:19:32
last three Tommy Johns in what we've talked about.
2:19:36
Oh, it's a flexor strain. No, it's you're getting Tommy
2:19:40
John. Sorry about your loss.
2:19:42
Like, the flexor is strained because you've been throwing
2:19:45
with a torn elbow, dummy. Like, that's why the flexor
2:19:48
tendon strained. Not not you've strained your
2:19:51
flexor tendon. If you keep going, you might
2:19:53
hurt your elbow. Your elbows already hurt, dummy.
2:19:56
It's it's hurt. You're done.
2:19:59
You're like, how many of them serve?
2:20:02
Like you were able to pitch through it?
2:20:03
Tanaka's the only one that comes to mind.
2:20:05
They shut him down for the whole season that year.
2:20:07
Well, no, Tanaka, he he didn't partial, right?
2:20:11
Yeah, So he did not get. Tommy John, he got an injection.
2:20:16
It was like, I'm going to pitch through it.
2:20:19
Some people can, some people can't.
2:20:22
Yeah, he's he's one of the few in probably the last that I've
2:20:28
been through. So it would have been what since
2:20:31
covering baseball and playing baseball, so probably the last
2:20:35
15 years that somebody that probably should have had it,
2:20:40
that didn't get it. I always thought he should have
2:20:42
because you know, after the before the injury, we saw that
2:20:46
splitter. That splitter was filthy after
2:20:50
the injury. It wasn't the same pitch.
2:20:52
You just couldn't get it. No, how hard a splitter is on
2:20:55
your elbow. I can only imagine.
2:20:57
I can only imagine. I tried to do it and it fucking
2:21:00
hurt. Wow.
2:21:03
And I'm like, and I couldn't do it like, and I always, I always
2:21:06
hold a baseball in my hands. As a split.
2:21:08
Finger, but I never did because to spread my fingers apart
2:21:12
because how we do in baseball is we manipulate a baseball.
2:21:16
Like I put pressure on different fingers on how to do things and
2:21:23
I tried to throw it a couple times and I'm like, I don't want
2:21:26
to do that. Like, no, it doesn't feel good.
2:21:31
I mean, I, I just remember him when he came up and, and just
2:21:33
watching that pitch by Ohtani that we showed a little earlier
2:21:36
of that two seamer. It it remind me of the chin Ming
2:21:39
Wong 2 seamer Jabba just going about 10 to 15 miles an hour
2:21:43
faster just diving like in and down off the plate.
2:21:47
It was if he can throw like that in the game.
2:21:51
I mean, Speedy, he didn't have a pitch like that when he was was
2:21:55
throwing a couple years ago, did he?
2:21:57
Not that I remember. The hard 2 seamers, you see a
2:22:00
lot of them with the younger pitchers when they come up
2:22:02
because you have you want to have like a second type of
2:22:05
fastball like that, whether it's that or a harder cutter and or a
2:22:09
sinker. So you want to have that as a
2:22:10
secondary pitch when you come up.
2:22:12
But I don't, yeah, I don't remember Ohtani having to rely
2:22:14
on that. He was like he was mainly the
2:22:17
100 mile an hour fastball when he came up and then the
2:22:19
curveball. Yeah, you let you saw the curve,
2:22:22
you saw that the the four seamer at the at the letters.
2:22:26
You saw a whole lot of that. We're seeing a whole lot of that
2:22:27
on this clip when he was pitching with the Angels, you
2:22:30
know, and then some of the, you know, there's a lot of that
2:22:32
breaking stuff that you start seeing.
2:22:35
It's not exactly a change up, but they kind of use it in a
2:22:37
similar way, don't you think? Jabba with a lot of the Asian
2:22:40
pitchers, they have a curve, they have a fastball and then
2:22:43
everything else is some kind of. I don't know.
2:22:45
Well, I mean, if if you want to go back and look at it, then
2:22:49
like, and when you know, you bring guys in like that and from
2:22:54
the Japanese side and you look at guys and like the gyro ball,
2:22:58
think about that. And so it's like you're really
2:23:02
not creating a pitch. It's it's just something that
2:23:05
they do different because it's it's a different lead, it's
2:23:11
different hitters. It's like it's just a different
2:23:14
dynamic as a whole. And it was like, Oh, Dice K is
2:23:19
going to come in and throw the Gyro ball and, and I think he
2:23:25
posted for 54 million. I'm like, really?
2:23:29
What does that do? Didn't do much for him and I'm
2:23:33
like, well, he didn't stay long. No, he and we.
2:23:38
Finished off with the Mets. Yeah.
2:23:41
And so, I mean, it just doesn't like for me, I loved it.
2:23:47
Like I got to play there. There was one dude that I
2:23:50
thought it was going to be really, really successful.
2:23:53
And this was 2006. It's at Sushi Nomi, and he
2:23:58
played for the Hossian Tigers. And I was with obviously the
2:24:02
Yankees at the time. And we had signed Kay Yawa.
2:24:07
And he told me he sucks. And I'm like, you played with
2:24:13
him. I don't know, like I don't know,
2:24:17
but know me and he never, he never posted, he never did
2:24:21
anything. But he was 10 times better
2:24:28
because I matched up with him in Hawaii probably 4 times and it
2:24:37
was a battle. And that's the fun thing that I
2:24:41
love. I got a dude next to me going,
2:24:44
going, going like I got to beat you.
2:24:48
I can't make a mistake. I can't do this because he's not
2:24:52
going to. And I went two and one against
2:24:56
him because I made a mistake one time and gave up A2 run Homer.
2:25:04
But AAA in Japan to the big leagues is completely different
2:25:13
because they are paid very similarly, but they also are
2:25:20
very similarly the same context. And K gal, I'm like, I played
2:25:29
with K gal and I was like, I would take a sushi Nomi any day
2:25:34
of the week, twice on Sunday. And it's just, it's crazy to see
2:25:40
these things. And then you got a, you got a
2:25:43
guy like Otani and it's like you throw your hands up because you
2:25:50
can't do anything. Because we've had a Nomo, we've
2:25:53
had an Arabu, we've had Kad Matsui.
2:25:57
We, I mean, we've had so many. We've had an Ichiro.
2:26:02
There's so many of them. Hideki Arabu was was great deo
2:26:08
nomo when they first came in, but it's it's just completely
2:26:12
different. It's completely different on
2:26:16
what this man can do and Errol hope I'm hope you're having fun
2:26:22
on the cruise and I'm still going to shit on you even though
2:26:26
you're on the cruise show is the best player in the major leagues
2:26:35
right now. Love Aaron Judge, love him.
2:26:39
He's on a record-breaking season right now, but go throw pitches
2:26:46
and see what happens. It's like Jabba Aaron Judge is
2:26:51
putting up historic numbers. But if Shohei pitches the entire
2:26:55
second-half, I think he'll have more WAR than Judge and Judge is
2:26:58
going to have more WAR than anyone since Barry Bonds and and
2:27:02
that that's how crazy this is. He's on he's to do that.
2:27:06
No, that's what I'm saying. Like is he going to finish that?
2:27:09
Well, say he does right, say he does say he finishes at like 370
2:27:13
with like Babe Ruth type numbers, right, He's not going
2:27:16
to hit 370. No, I'm just saying like best
2:27:18
case scenario, right, Say that's best case scenario.
2:27:21
Even if he does that, if Otani pitches like a top ten, top 15
2:27:25
pitcher the entire second-half of the season and continues at
2:27:29
his pace offensively, he's going to have a higher WAR at the end
2:27:32
of the season. And Judge, I think he is.
2:27:35
And that's what is that conversation, though, that the
2:27:38
conversation is if you can do both of those things, you're
2:27:41
more valuable than the best hitter of all time having that
2:27:45
season. That's that's kind of a crazy
2:27:48
conversation to have. You could see Errol's side of it
2:27:50
because he's hitting like one of the greatest hitters, 100
2:27:54
percent, 100%. I see that side of it.
2:27:57
And that's the thing that he said early when we talked about
2:28:01
this, like he shouldn't pitch, he shouldn't do this.
2:28:04
And OK, that's yours, but at the same time, you aren't him.
2:28:12
So how can you say like if he comes back and does this and he
2:28:17
could be an average pitcher. An average pitcher shoves at a,
2:28:26
gets 10 starts or gets 5060 innings.
2:28:35
How do you even? Compare that.
2:28:37
You. Can't.
2:28:39
It's tough and I think he'll get more than that.
2:28:41
I think he'll get around 80 innings the rest of the way.
2:28:44
If he did it, I'm going to my my peak was when they said because
2:28:50
it originally and I talked to a couple guys and they're like,
2:28:55
because I originally thought he was just going to do a SIM game
2:28:59
again. And then they put him in the
2:29:02
game. Right.
2:29:03
Yeah. Well, I mean, they said it.
2:29:04
You know, that would be speedy. I don't know if you saw this,
2:29:07
but they said that and we got to move on to our next segment.
2:29:10
But it would be easier for him to rehab by pitching in games
2:29:17
than having to stop and gear up for a simulated game, then rest
2:29:21
for a day and then reach. Preach.
2:29:25
Sound familiar, Jabba? Yep, been through it.
2:29:30
I had to get that little part out there.
2:29:32
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it.
2:29:34
We have one of our favorite segments coming up right now.
2:29:37
We call this Tic Tac. No Tic Tac.
2:29:42
Morris. Right in the butt.
2:29:45
We get the. Prizes cheap because they're
2:29:47
stolen. No, no, no, no, no, no.
2:29:58
Look at our new Tic Tac no board.
2:30:00
Yes. Speedy, our host of Tic Tac no.
2:30:04
Right now, yes. That is our new board.
2:30:08
What a what an addition to Tic Tac No Speedy's got some trivia
2:30:12
questions for us and we're going to get started right away.
2:30:17
Speedy, start us off. So last time we beat you in a
2:30:21
tiebreaker, the first one that ever went all the way to the
2:30:25
last square, and if I'm not mistaken, I was able to win that
2:30:30
last high breaker. Speedy, you have something for
2:30:32
us this time. All right, we're going to go
2:30:35
first to the NBA. We're going to go different end
2:30:38
of the spectrum. We've talked about the younger
2:30:39
teams with the Pacers and the Thunder.
2:30:41
Let's go back to the older team with the Dallas Mavericks.
2:30:44
When Rick Carlisle took them to the Finals, Dirk Novitsky
2:30:47
apparently was not one of the top five oldest players on the
2:30:50
team. Named three of the five players
2:30:52
that were older than him on that roster.
2:30:54
Jason Kidd has to be one of them, right?
2:30:56
Jason Kidd, that's correct, yes. Jason Terry.
2:31:03
Yes. Oh.
2:31:04
That OK? I didn't know if he was on that
2:31:06
team. All right, that.
2:31:06
So we gave our guesses. We can't go again.
2:31:08
Someone else has to get the last.
2:31:11
One is also is Tyson Chandler. Was he older than him?
2:31:13
Tyson Chandler was down on that team.
2:31:16
No. What year did you say Speedy?
2:31:18
The Mavericks championship year 2011, actually.
2:31:21
My bad. Tyson Chandler was on that team.
2:31:23
But he was. That's what I thought.
2:31:24
I thought he was. Younger.
2:31:25
He was young on that. He was third, yeah.
2:31:27
He was third. Yeah, he.
2:31:28
Went to the Knicks after all, right?
2:31:32
So we can't help Tommy and I can't help.
2:31:34
We got Jason Kidd and Jason Terry.
2:31:37
There's got to be one more old head that was on that squad.
2:31:40
I'm pretty sure I know who it is, but I don't know.
2:31:43
I can't really help then, Speedy, you said.
2:31:47
Then who? So Jason Kidd.
2:31:50
There are five players older than Dirk Nowitzki on that
2:31:53
championship, too. He's got it.
2:31:57
He's just did deep pondering. He's trying to come up with a
2:31:59
name. No, I don't remember the name
2:32:02
but is it the guy with the weird shooting form?
2:32:05
It is San Marion. Yep.
2:32:07
Yeah. Oh, there we go.
2:32:09
All right, we got it. OK, let's add it to the stage.
2:32:15
All right, right, so Jabba, you got that last one.
2:32:17
Here's your new icon. Jabba, where do you want to go?
2:32:20
John, marry me was on that team. Not even now.
2:32:23
Middle Jabba. Let's take.
2:32:28
Let's. Take.
2:32:30
Yeah, You want to take the middle or you want to take top?
2:32:32
Right? Your call, man.
2:32:36
Let's go middle. All right, We're going to go
2:32:38
middle. I know, I know, we already said
2:32:40
it, Fish with this graphic. It's still fantastic.
2:32:44
Thank you very much. I've spent a lot of time on this
2:32:47
one. All right, let's put it back
2:32:49
down. Speedy next question.
2:32:50
All right, first of all, I want to reveal the other two.
2:32:52
The other two were Brian Cardinal was one and then the
2:32:55
other one was the other one was somebody that Jabba I think you
2:32:59
mentioned in King of the Hill a few weeks ago was Paige off
2:33:01
Story Akovich? Paige.
2:33:03
Off that. Team.
2:33:04
That's right. Oh, that was the end of this
2:33:07
career. That's right.
2:33:08
Yeah, yes. All right, Speedy.
2:33:11
Let's we'll sift to the NHL now. So the Edmonton Oilers are
2:33:14
looking to come back from down three to two.
2:33:17
Who is the most recent team to overcome A32 deficit to win the
2:33:20
Stanley Cup? Damn.
2:33:25
So had to win in seven obviously.
2:33:27
When was the last seven game? I'm just going to take a shot.
2:33:35
Was it? In in in seven.
2:33:39
The same Blues. Blues down three to two.
2:33:40
No, it was. On the same Blues Blues.
2:33:45
Not the. Blues.
2:33:45
I know they won. Back.
2:33:47
I I don't know much about hockey, but the Tampa Bay
2:33:50
Lightning is that. No, they did not need seven
2:33:53
games to win either of their assembly.
2:33:54
Health they they diving in. They beat the Rangers.
2:33:58
In seven games. And I guess the stars.
2:34:01
Nope. No, no, it have been.
2:34:07
I'll take my guess to the LA Kings.
2:34:10
Nope, they just keep coming back on the Rangers in game with
2:34:13
multi goal assets. They only needed five games,
2:34:17
unfortunately, to beat the Rangers.
2:34:20
All right, I'm going to dig deep on this one.
2:34:23
Is this the Penguins? Nope, I think Jabba's the last
2:34:28
one with a guess. It would be.
2:34:33
I know it's not recent. I'm going to go not the Kings.
2:34:59
Give it a shot damn it. I don't just name its game is
2:35:06
the Maple Leafs. They now wasn't that long ago.
2:35:10
No, this is the irony of it. The correct answer is the 2011
2:35:14
Bruins in the rookie year of Brad Marshall and.
2:35:18
That was the famous Tim Thomas season.
2:35:21
Speedy. Yep, if I'm not mistaken.
2:35:23
That's. Right, all right.
2:35:25
He was a very old goalie that dominated.
2:35:27
Damn you. All right, Speedy, where are
2:35:29
you? Where are we going all?
2:35:31
Right, well, I have to check out the new board.
2:35:34
Check out your earrings there Speedy, you got some nice
2:35:37
earrings. Right earrings yourself?
2:35:39
Let's go. Hanging from your ears?
2:35:41
Let's go top left with Goody's new logo with his LSU jersey.
2:35:45
All right, here we go. We'll just move Nithin out of
2:35:49
the way. And go out of the way.
2:35:52
He's had to go on another show. We can't even get the debut of
2:35:54
the blue Blazer. Yeah.
2:35:55
Well, it is what it is. All right, let's come back.
2:35:58
Another question. All right, so let's we'll shift
2:36:01
this to the first time with me hosting the segment.
2:36:03
So some golf obviously U.S. Open just yesterday.
2:36:06
So 2 golfers got their first and only U.S.
2:36:11
Open at Oakmont Country Club. 1 was in 2007, the other was in
2:36:14
2016. You only need one of the two.
2:36:18
Tiger Woods. No.
2:36:20
No, someone who got their only only their only one.
2:36:25
Those are the only U.S. Open these both of these two
2:36:27
guys have ever won. You said at Oakmont.
2:36:31
At Oakmont. One was in 2007, the other was
2:36:33
in 2016. Is I'm, I'm going to take a
2:36:38
shot? Is is it Brooks Kopka?
2:36:41
Nope, his was actually here at at Shinnecock in 2018.
2:36:59
What Jordan Spieth is that? It was not Jordan Spieth.
2:37:03
It was not Jordan. Spieth.
2:37:04
Oh I know. I put 5 bucks on Spieth to win
2:37:07
at 7 + 7000. He did not come close.
2:37:11
Didn't work out. It's it, it's, it's 1/2 and I'm
2:37:16
a golf guy. I'm going to just pick the
2:37:21
funniest name I I remember from golf and I'll go with Jose Maria
2:37:25
Olafabel. No, no.
2:37:28
Damn. That's the name.
2:37:30
So you said you said the first winners at Oakmont.
2:37:33
That's got to be a name we give to Errol for sounded out.
2:37:36
It's not a bad one. We should do golf for sounded up
2:37:39
first winners at Oakmont at the at the Open.
2:37:43
So yeah, there were two of them in the recently.
2:37:46
There were some older ones too, obviously, because golf's a
2:37:50
older sport. Yeah, one was in 2007, one was
2:37:53
in 2016. So it wouldn't be old school.
2:38:01
And it the both these guys, these are the only time they've
2:38:04
ever won the US Open. Oh, the 2007.
2:38:09
That was when we were watching. Oh God, who was that?
2:38:16
Damn it. I know who it is.
2:38:18
I think I know who it is. I know who and you said Jose
2:38:26
Maria Lazalvo and like, I'm looking at like both.
2:38:29
Was it Anhil? Cabrera Yes, it was very good.
2:38:32
Hey. Good job.
2:38:36
Got the right country. There you go.
2:38:38
That's why, like, as soon as I heard it, I was like, I think
2:38:42
that was because that's the only one he's won and he's on the
2:38:45
seniors tour. All right, Jabba, where are we
2:38:48
going? We're going to go.
2:38:53
How do we block? And we'll go.
2:38:56
This is this is just Speedy's low icon.
2:38:58
He's only got this one up here. All right, so let's go bottom
2:39:02
right. No, no, let's go.
2:39:05
No, let's go bottom left so we can kind of block it sometime.
2:39:12
All right, I like it. All right, here we go.
2:39:14
Speedy next question. All right, so Rafael Devers
2:39:17
finished with 31 career home runs with the Yankees, 1 short
2:39:21
of tying for fifth most all time in career home run with the
2:39:24
Yankees. Whose record would he have tied
2:39:26
with one more home run? Say that one.
2:39:28
More time. So Rafael Devers finished with
2:39:30
31 career home runs against the Yankees.
2:39:33
So 1 Short of tying somebody for fifth all time, whose record
2:39:37
would he have tied? All players ever.
2:39:42
Yes, All players on the Yankees. All players on the Red Sox
2:39:46
versus the Yankees. Oh, just Red Sox.
2:39:48
Just Red Sox. Yeah, So just Red Sox.
2:39:50
Just Red Sox versus the Yankees, yeah. 31 home runs.
2:39:53
Yep. Wow, I'm going to.
2:40:02
I'm going to get embarrassed in this, I know.
2:40:09
Aaron, you got anything? Yeah, I was.
2:40:11
I mean, it's Boston players, right?
2:40:13
Like, yeah, a Boston player. All.
2:40:15
Right. I mean, I don't know how many.
2:40:17
But. David Ortiz.
2:40:19
He had a lot more than. Than I don't know, but it was.
2:40:22
I'll think no, he had a lot more.
2:40:24
I'm glad you took it because it was definitely a guess.
2:40:27
I'm gonna RIP a guess. Was it a Dustin Petroita?
2:40:30
Nope. He didn't have that kind of
2:40:32
power. I I figured, I just thought I'd,
2:40:35
you know, throw a name out there.
2:40:40
Zach and Tommy, any guesses? So a Red Sox guy?
2:40:42
I don't. Even know any red?
2:40:43
Sox players like that. Yeah, I got, I got nothing.
2:40:47
I don't. I don't watch much baseball.
2:40:50
I got a How about how about we go back to Ted Williams?
2:40:55
Nope, he has the most all time. Damn.
2:41:00
He's like, he has like 40. Stuff I think.
2:41:02
It was 62 was his total. I think Ortiz was 58, I want to
2:41:07
say. OK, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna
2:41:09
throw. 1. Crazy, I think.
2:41:14
There's one. There's one.
2:41:15
I know what you're talking about.
2:41:16
There's one. It's not Johnny Damon.
2:41:20
I know that. Can I relinquish my pick to
2:41:24
Aaron? Are we doing that?
2:41:25
No. I got like the hotspro
2:41:29
connection. The Hotspro connection, Yeah,
2:41:30
I'm tagging you a free one. Take it or no?
2:41:33
Take it. Manny Ramirez No.
2:41:37
Where was he on that list? He was third.
2:41:40
By the way, Speedy's not going to give us one that's like, I
2:41:45
want to say like a Mirabelli, A Millar, but it's not any of
2:41:50
those. What about from like the 70s?
2:41:53
What about that generation, the 80s, seventies, 80s team?
2:41:57
Is it rice? Oh, my bad.
2:41:59
Manny Ramirez was. He was fourth.
2:42:01
My bad. But he's 36.
2:42:03
He has more. He had more, so Jabba, said Jim
2:42:06
Rice. Jim Rice is actually tied with
2:42:08
Manny. Ramirez also had 36.
2:42:09
But damn it. All right, so we're out then,
2:42:13
unless you got a guess, Zach. I got nothing.
2:42:16
I I wish I had a guess. I can't think of anything.
2:42:19
All right. But Jabba was on the right
2:42:20
track. It was that era.
2:42:22
It was Dwight Evans. Evans.
2:42:26
I knew, I knew it was is is a part of that speedy going for
2:42:30
the block over here? Yep.
2:42:32
All right, let's keep going. Now we got to stop Speedy on
2:42:35
this one. He's one away as well.
2:42:36
Now, So yeah, Carl Gastronski was 52.
2:42:38
He was third. And then Manny Ramirez and Jim
2:42:40
Rice, 36 Evans. 30 I knew I knew you weren't going to give us a a
2:42:44
name. I really thought it was rice.
2:42:47
We beat you. And I did, I, I honestly did
2:42:50
too. But I was like, I think it's
2:42:51
around that realm, but he's not going to give us like a Shrimps
2:42:54
key or Evans. That's a tough question.
2:42:57
That was a good one. Let's keep going.
2:42:59
All right, we'll go to a college baseball 1.
2:43:02
So obviously the no hitter, no hitter that occurred today, 19
2:43:08
strikeouts from from Wood in that in that 9 innings, in nine
2:43:13
innings. So the record he broke was of Ed
2:43:15
Bain, who had 17 strikeouts for which school that recently has
2:43:19
changed conferences. Jesus Christ.
2:43:24
Oh, rephrase that. Like he.
2:43:28
Pitched for a school that has changed conferences.
2:43:32
Hold on, hold on. So what is your question?
2:43:35
So which school did he pitch for this guy?
2:43:37
Who had the record? What school?
2:43:39
Had the record before before the Arkansas pitcher would broke it
2:43:42
today of 17 strikeouts game 9 in game.
2:43:46
So which school his name? Was what?
2:43:49
Ed Bain. Wasn't that the the the murderer
2:43:56
from what was that movie? Ed Gaines with the face
2:44:00
Leatherface? Wasn't that his real name?
2:44:03
I don't. Even know.
2:44:05
Amityville Horror. Yeah, Amityville Horror.
2:44:07
So it's the school you're. Looking for the school?
2:44:09
Yes, the school he pitched for recently.
2:44:13
In this recent conference expansion, it realigned to a
2:44:16
different conference. I'm just going to give you a
2:44:19
wild guess, Texas A&M. No.
2:44:23
I'm also just going to RIP a guess, is it Texas?
2:44:26
Nope. Are they in this series now?
2:44:30
No. Tennessee.
2:44:35
No. Vanderbilt No.
2:44:38
Is it a big name school? It's a, it's a, it's a well
2:44:41
known school, yes. Is it a baseball school?
2:44:45
Is it? Is it power for?
2:44:47
Yes, it's powerful. Oh, it's going to be one of
2:44:52
these old ones. Like.
2:44:54
They're not in this current turn about though.
2:44:56
I just got, I just got all the notes and shit today.
2:44:59
Like are you fucking shitting me?
2:45:06
I don't know enough about the conference realignment to even
2:45:09
be able to, and I don't I don't know that either how baseball is
2:45:13
realigned. We need this though, or else
2:45:16
Speedy wins. So we need everyone to make.
2:45:18
A guess. Is it the same as?
2:45:20
Football like, is it because I know like?
2:45:22
Conference realignment is the same as the.
2:45:23
Same. All right, because because I
2:45:24
know Texas and Oklahoma went. To the SEC.
2:45:27
They went to the SEC and. Then UCLA went, so they went to
2:45:31
the SEC. How long ago did?
2:45:33
They change their conference. This was the recent realignment.
2:45:36
Last year it was just this past season.
2:45:38
Yes, it was the recent realignment.
2:45:39
This was the second season with new realignment, so like I I
2:45:43
know USCUCLA, Oregon and Washington went to the Big 10
2:45:47
from the PAC 12 as well. Give us a guess.
2:45:52
Those are like the big names. They I don't know.
2:45:55
Some guys give give a. Guess so.
2:45:57
So yeah. They are.
2:45:58
Just the names Jake gave you. Jake's probably on the right
2:46:01
track. What were the names again?
2:46:02
Let me hear some of the names. West Coast.
2:46:04
Oregon, Oregon. Washington, UCLA and USC.
2:46:08
Former PAC 10. Yeah, not Big Town.
2:46:12
Did anybody say UCLA? I'm gonna say UCLA then.
2:46:14
No. No, no, yeah, he said.
2:46:17
He's not in. The they're in it.
2:46:18
He's not in. Yeah.
2:46:18
All right, you can get that back.
2:46:19
I can. Get it again.
2:46:20
Yeah, you can go. Again, do the other one.
2:46:24
Oregon, then is Oregon in. The other one in fine whatever,
2:46:28
I don't know the answer. Oregon counts for that type of
2:46:30
method, but it is wrong. Oregon did move to the Big 10.
2:46:35
Jake's not. Wrong I know, but when I said
2:46:36
the other one I meant the other LASBRB.
2:46:39
Oh, I didn't know. So what was the other use of
2:46:41
USC? It's not USA Oh damn.
2:46:45
Oh well, Zach and Aaron, we need to just guess or I'll soon.
2:46:49
It's. Over.
2:46:50
Yeah, I'm just going to get, is it Arizona?
2:46:52
They're still in. Arizona's still in.
2:46:56
Arizona's still in. It's somebody that.
2:46:57
Is in a wild guess for a SAN. Diego, I don't.
2:47:01
Know. I don't think that's going to be
2:47:04
it. No, I don't know.
2:47:06
No, San Diego State is not or San Diego.
2:47:09
Neither of them are Power 4, but Zach was the closest.
2:47:12
It was Arizona State, so Jake, Jake, you were on the right
2:47:19
track, though you just forgot the ones that moved from the big
2:47:21
to the Big 12. Utah.
2:47:23
I did, yeah. Utah, Colorado, Arizona and
2:47:25
Arizona State, Those are the. Ones that because I knew.
2:47:27
The big 10 ones in the SECI just didn't know the the Big 12 ones.
2:47:31
Yeah. So Texas and Oklahoma, like you
2:47:33
said, move to the SEC. Those are the four that moved to
2:47:37
the Big 10, the ones you said, Oregon, Washington and the 2
2:47:40
California schools. And then Colorado, Utah, Arizona
2:47:43
and Arizona State move to the Big 12.
2:47:46
Damn it, you're right. So those are the whole
2:47:48
conference realignment fish. Your guess of Texas A&M, that
2:47:52
was Earl. That was a lot earlier.
2:47:53
They moved to the SEC from the Big 12.
2:47:55
Yeah, I know. All right, guys.
2:47:59
Great effort, Speedy. You defeated us.
2:48:01
This time, we'll have another chance.
2:48:03
Who? Wasn't I?
2:48:04
I had to sign. Arizona State at once.
2:48:07
Zach said Arizona and it was Arizona State.
2:48:11
We were so close, but no cigar, Tic Tac, no goes to Speedy
2:48:16
tonight. Great job, Speedy, Dang it.
2:48:18
And we are going to take a quick break.
2:48:20
And after these messages, we're going to come back, talk about
2:48:23
the big NBA trade and talk a little bit about tomorrow
2:48:26
night's game six in the Stanley Cup Finals.
2:48:30
But first, Tommy scoops with Sports Minute.
2:48:35
This is the Jabba and the Mouth Sports minute.
2:48:40
All right, all right, all right. Ladies and gentlemen, I am back
2:48:44
once again with these sportsmen knits.
2:48:46
If I can just pull this up once again.
2:48:48
There we go. OK guys, ladies and gentlemen, I
2:48:51
always like to start off with some NFL and as we can remember,
2:48:54
the Kansas City Chiefs actually fell flat on their face last
2:48:57
season where wide receiver Rasheed Rice said he is
2:49:00
confident that the Kansas City Chiefs will put on a show and
2:49:03
actually get it done this season.
2:49:05
Now after once again like I said, getting blown out,
2:49:08
obliterated, whatever you want to put it against the
2:49:10
Philadelphia Eagles in the Super Bowl, the wide receiver Rasheed
2:49:14
Rice says that the the team has a lot of guys and our wide
2:49:17
receiver depth is explosive for sure.
2:49:20
Now Rice, who actually suffered a season ending injury last
2:49:23
season in week 4, actually is progressing really well in rehab
2:49:27
and could likely be on the field for the team come week 1.
2:49:30
Now the Chiefs are going to be beginning of their NFL season
2:49:33
against the Chargers and actually Brazil and could even
2:49:36
be getting a head start on winning their tenth straight AFC
2:49:40
West title. And I don't know how I feel
2:49:41
about that, but it's kind of crazy if the the Kansas City
2:49:45
Chiefs can win yet another Super Bowl.
2:49:47
But shifting over to the NF to another West side team.
2:49:49
Over on the NFC West, 49ers GM John Lynch said that the
2:49:54
offseason was a bit uneasy and a little bit messy, but necessary
2:49:58
for the team. Now the offseason for the
2:50:00
Niners, which actually saw a move such as trading away
2:50:03
veteran wide receiver Debo Samuel to Washington, signed
2:50:07
winning linebackers Fred Warren, Fred Warner and QB Rock Purdy
2:50:11
and tight end George Kittle. Lynch said it was a tough pill
2:50:15
to swallow, but the team needed it, saying it spoke to how good
2:50:18
our roster was. The hardest part was watching
2:50:21
guys walk. Who helped the roster but once
2:50:23
again was needed for the team now to finish.
2:50:27
Over on the NBA hardwood veteran forward Kevin Durant has
2:50:31
reportedly ruled out Minnesota Timberwolves as a landing spot
2:50:34
this season. Now, everybody's been closely
2:50:36
following the Durant saga on where he will end up once again
2:50:41
after he announced that he is likely out of his way from
2:50:43
Phoenix having a list of teams that he desires to go to.
2:50:46
ESP NS Shamsharinia actually reported that Durant has no
2:50:50
desires to link up with Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota
2:50:53
Timberwolves as the teams for Durant that he could possibly
2:50:56
wind up on. Although ESPN also just a while
2:50:58
ago did report that the Phoenix Suns actually did receive an
2:51:02
offer from the Miami Heat, but we're not on the same page to
2:51:05
actually deal away Durant to Miami.
2:51:08
And with that being said, they could actually be landing Kevin
2:51:12
Durant over in Miami for the foreseeable future.
2:51:14
We shall see how that goes. Ladies and gentlemen, make sure
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Guys, that is all the time that I have for you guys right now.
2:51:41
I am going to be kicking it back to the boys for another episode
2:51:45
of the fish cast with on Jabba and the Mouth.
2:51:50
Any questions? This is the Jabba and the Mouth
2:51:55
show. Jabba and the Mouth Speedy.
2:52:04
You love the dance music, don't you?
2:52:07
Every generation. I might have to prepare for it
2:52:09
if I have to go out with Frank. Hey, listen, we we cannot wait
2:52:15
for you to go out with. Oh, Java was very excited for
2:52:18
that, I can tell. If you if you missed the
2:52:21
interview, Frank is giving Speedy a full night nice bar tab
2:52:26
an extra ticket to go to the Stone Pony for their concert
2:52:30
series this summer in the Jersey Shore.
2:52:34
Frank Barton's over there. He's for Jersey Shore Guy and
2:52:37
Speedy. We could get you a date very
2:52:40
easily or you. Could that is the dream for?
2:52:42
Nathan. Hey, look, it's not about Nathan
2:52:45
right here, Nathan. No, Nathan just wants to be this
2:52:47
ultimate wingman. Look, the two of you guys as
2:52:52
wingman, like Nathan as your wingman, I mean, arguably would
2:52:57
be the greatest thing I I've ever seen in my entire life.
2:52:59
And I would love to be a family on the wall for that.
2:53:01
I really would. All the Lisa's, gin and tonic,
2:53:04
chicken Curry, blow pops. I mean, it's all the different
2:53:07
specialties. Well, either way, you're not
2:53:12
getting out of this speedy. I mean, Errol's going to be
2:53:14
ecstatic about this. I don't know if it seems.
2:53:17
Like a nice lady, a nice significant other for you
2:53:20
Speedy. I think it's something that you
2:53:22
know that you're ready for. I think the world, all your fans
2:53:26
out there, all the job and the mouth fans we're we need Speedy
2:53:30
to find and misses Speedy. That's that's what we need, and
2:53:35
I think it's time Speedy. I think everyone's there to give
2:53:39
you this support right now, and I think you should use it,
2:53:41
especially coming from such an illustrious guest giving you
2:53:45
such a nice deal. And then Jabba said he would pay
2:53:48
for your hotel room. So all you have to do, you don't
2:53:52
have to pay for any drinks. You don't have to pay for the
2:53:54
room. You just got to get there and
2:53:57
spit your game. Speedy, What?
2:54:00
What would that sound like? I'm just a little curious.
2:54:02
I have no idea. So, like, Tommy, Tommy, turn
2:54:06
your camera on for a second. Come on in.
2:54:08
Here. Thank you, Jamie Lee all.
2:54:09
Right there I am. Tommy, what do you think
2:54:14
Speedy's game would so pretend like we're we're going out,
2:54:20
we're at the Stone Pony. We see, you know, we're at the
2:54:23
bar. We get, you know, the nice bar
2:54:25
Tab. Frank's there.
2:54:26
He gave, he gave us the connection and now there's a
2:54:29
Bachelorette party there. They're there, Speedy and
2:54:33
everybody knows what it means when there's a Bachelorette
2:54:35
party. They're ready to party in more
2:54:38
ways than one. It's almost like it's kind of
2:54:42
easy there, if anything, you know, especially with a couple
2:54:44
of drinks in your system. Come on.
2:54:46
Speedy. Well, we know.
2:54:47
Look speedy as we saw in the Tic Tac.
2:54:49
No graphic. Excellent dancer.
2:54:51
I was about to say it has to have some a little bit of
2:54:53
alcohol in his system and he has to get the moves going.
2:54:56
I think once he gets the. Moves going.
2:54:57
It's his kind of music at the Stone Pony.
2:54:59
It's your kind of music that they play over there in the
2:55:01
Jersey Shore. That's, that's Asbury Park.
2:55:03
That's Bruce Springsteen's stomping grounds right there.
2:55:05
That's the place we're talking about, right.
2:55:08
So it's going to be it's going to be rock music, probably
2:55:10
speedy is my guess. I think this is like, you know,
2:55:14
we're just checking off boxes here is what I see and I and I
2:55:18
think, you know, at some point we're just going to have to do
2:55:21
this as a as a segment that we film live and and I think our
2:55:27
fans are just going to root for you because I know we all root
2:55:31
for you and we're there to help you as teammates as well.
2:55:34
So I don't know Tommy, it can you give me like what you think
2:55:38
Speedy's game would sound like in that scenario?
2:55:41
Well, if we're talking Speedy, like we said that he has a
2:55:45
couple of drinks in his system. Whatever you whatever fancies
2:55:47
your pickle at the moment. You have a couple of drinks in
2:55:50
your system. Speedy, let me ask you
2:55:52
something. Are you good at gyrating your
2:55:54
hips? Like can you, can you do a
2:55:55
little swerve rating My can you like do a little swerve?
2:55:57
No, because if you like, I'm just saying you were doing some
2:56:00
pretty good dance moves there. You know, even when fish you.
2:56:02
Remember Jay, bring the Tic Tac no back so we can watch Speedy
2:56:06
dance again. Fish we remember the hit me with
2:56:10
your best shot hit speedy dancing over there in New
2:56:12
Orleans with that we remember exactly how low he.
2:56:15
Was true how the fish do have more video of speedy dancing I
2:56:18
forgot I had I have. Video of speedy dancing That'll
2:56:21
be up for next Tic Tac? No actually or next episode or
2:56:25
whatnot, but speedy if you gyrate your hips and you do it
2:56:28
and you kind of got a little bit going right there.
2:56:30
I've seen it like there, but if you.
2:56:31
Just just peek out the the blonde cougar behind him that's
2:56:35
just like, hey, yeah, clapping it up for him.
2:56:40
Speedy, you didn't even see this woman.
2:56:41
She was all about it. She was all I'm.
2:56:43
Sure, she was about it. I don't even think Errol saw her
2:56:46
because I think Errol would have definitely like try to make
2:56:49
something. He would have had her gravitate
2:56:50
toward her. You know exactly what Errol did.
2:56:53
The guy came down with a microphone and said who wants to
2:56:56
sing? And Errol took the microphone
2:56:58
out of his hand and proceeded to be a better DJ than he was.
2:57:02
That's exactly what happened. And I'm sure that surprises 0
2:57:05
people that listen to this show that that's what happened.
2:57:08
And Errol was fantastic when he took the microphone.
2:57:10
I think they tried to do him and his buddy was a Ray that was
2:57:14
with us, tried to do what's the rap song?
2:57:18
The white boy rap song from the early 90s.
2:57:20
Jump around. I tried this thing, jump around
2:57:24
and Ray forgot the words pretty quickly.
2:57:26
Errol. Errol looked like he had done
2:57:31
this at a party about 13,000 times in his his life because
2:57:36
let's face it, the man's of DJs work.
2:57:38
He, you know he worked like 3 different functions before going
2:57:42
on the cruise. That guy just works man.
2:57:44
They had to peel him off away from jobs to get him on a cruise
2:57:48
ship to relax. Now, we hope you're having a
2:57:50
good time if you're listening to us live.
2:57:52
Amen. Enjoy your cruise that's.
2:57:53
Delayed. Look out for those.
2:57:54
Sharks. Yeah, there's a lot of sharks in
2:57:58
that water. We know you don't like that
2:57:59
water. It's called fasilophobia, right?
2:58:03
Right. Is that?
2:58:05
Something like that I. Forgot Jurassic Park of the
2:58:07
phobia. That's a little phobia.
2:58:10
I was right. Thalassophobia.
2:58:12
Thalassophobia. Yes, Jamie Lee, I was killing it
2:58:14
that night. Kind of like so so if you have
2:58:17
thalassophobia, like Titanic's got to be like the scariest
2:58:20
movie ever for you. I would imagine just sinking
2:58:23
into that deep cold water. That wouldn't be great.
2:58:26
I don't know. Arrow's going to be fine,
2:58:27
though. That's that's that's a great,
2:58:29
you know, safe cruise liner. I'm sure, I'm sure it's fine
2:58:32
with the all you can drink inclusive.
2:58:34
Oh, wait. No, all you drink.
2:58:37
Maybe if they had like some smoothies.
2:58:38
Once in a while. Banana smoothies or whatnot.
2:58:40
We used to go to Applebee's. Errol used to love some some
2:58:43
strawberry banana smoothies. Just saying.
2:58:45
Strawberry banana smoothie at Applebee's.
2:58:47
Yep, I don't even know they sold that until Errol asks.
2:58:50
So there we go. I think one time he downed like
2:58:52
about two of them, you know? Like, you know, not gonna lie.
2:58:55
He has a He also has a really like my mom has this too.
2:58:59
Like he doesn't get brain freeze.
2:59:01
Like it's crazy how fast he could like drink really, really
2:59:03
cold things. Yeah.
2:59:05
I mean, there's an easy. Joke about not having a brain
2:59:07
that we can do in there at some point, but brain freeze, Brain
2:59:10
freeze is something that I fight with every time with those types
2:59:13
of things. So I stay away.
2:59:14
But I'll never forget. I was on the Israeli Birthright
2:59:17
trip and they, I got to stay like an extra dozen days because
2:59:21
you could, you could do that back then.
2:59:23
I don't know if you could do that anymore.
2:59:24
But we just me and my one friend, we just stayed in Tel
2:59:27
Aviv and we were eating. You'd wake up in the morning, go
2:59:32
to the beach, and you would get these like, smoothies, but they
2:59:35
would be spiked with alcohol. So just imagine what you're
2:59:37
describing, but spiked with alcohol.
2:59:39
And like, you get these French fries, like these steak fries
2:59:42
with hummus and like mushrooms and onions on top of them.
2:59:45
It's just just so delicious. Like, I've never had that
2:59:48
experience anywhere else in my life.
2:59:49
But we did that like every morning.
2:59:51
We were in Tel Aviv at like 10:30 in the morning in January.
2:59:53
It was like 80 degrees. 75° is a beautiful way to start the day.
2:59:57
And I just want to give, you know, some prayers out there.
2:59:59
It got all the conflict going on in the Middle East especially.
3:00:03
So right now we've got stay safe out there.
3:00:05
Everybody involved, literally everybody.
3:00:08
Yeah, Especially yeah. No, I'm just gonna say
3:00:10
especially I know a couple of reporters that are actually out
3:00:12
there covering certain things, so safety out for them as well.
3:00:17
Yeah, it's been reporters targeted and things like that.
3:00:19
So you know they're in the line of fire out there.
3:00:22
Just a little update before we get into our next segment.
3:00:25
It's 8779 OKC of eight going into the 4th.
3:00:29
Does Halliburton still have 0 points?
3:00:32
I don't know. I know he really struggled in
3:00:34
the first half. I'll pop open the stats.
3:00:36
He's got two points on O of 6 shooting.
3:00:40
He's got 2 foul shots that he's made and four rebounds, 4
3:00:43
assists. Zero from the field, but two
3:00:46
points from free throws. Not, I don't know how they win
3:00:49
without him doing this, without him scoring.
3:00:52
You never know in the fourth quarter the guy comes alive, but
3:00:55
they're definitely up against it.
3:00:56
But it's still only, it's still a single digit game.
3:00:59
So they've come back for more. We've seen it.
3:01:02
It's still anyway going. Jake says that TJ McConnell's
3:01:05
got 18 points. That's like the most annoying
3:01:07
player in the NBA. TJ McConnell.
3:01:10
But he's got to be. He picks you up full court and
3:01:12
he just finds a way to steal the inbounds pass.
3:01:16
Like, just do these, like take two possessions for one pesky
3:01:18
player in the corner. One of the most pesky guys I've
3:01:21
ever seen. Yeah, Zach says.
3:01:23
You hate to play against him. You'd love to have him on your
3:01:25
team. You absolutely would love to
3:01:26
have that guy on your team. And it's not surprising like
3:01:29
Rick Carlisle has that guy on his team.
3:01:31
Rick Carlisle was that kind of player as well when he was way
3:01:34
back in the day. And he's always had guys that
3:01:36
were pesky. So it's and they play that way.
3:01:39
So good for them. We'll see how that goes.
3:01:41
We'll keep you guys updated on it.
3:01:42
But before we do that, we got to talk about some basketball trade
3:01:46
news. Oh yeah.
3:01:48
Desmond Bain on the move to Orlando The the Grizzlies trade
3:01:56
Bain to the Magic for a massive haul.
3:01:58
ESPN Shyamshirani reports of the Grizzlies have traded Desmond
3:02:01
Bain to the Magic for Kentavious Caldwell, Pope Cole Anthony four
3:02:06
first round picks and one first round pick swap.
3:02:10
The draft picks will be this year's number 16th overall pick.
3:02:13
The big prize is The Sun's first round pick next year. 2
3:02:17
unprotected picks in 28 and 30 and the pick swap is in 2029.
3:02:23
ESP NS Tim Bond Temps reports that the Magic we're not
3:02:26
interested in Kevin Durant at which we keep hearing not
3:02:29
interested in Kevin Durant from literally every team in the
3:02:32
league. We heard that from the Knicks
3:02:34
earlier today. We heard it from another team
3:02:36
that we were talking about an earlier segment.
3:02:38
For some reason, nobody wants KD right now.
3:02:41
Maybe it's all his burner accounts, but they didn't expect
3:02:43
to be in the sweepstake for Giannis.
3:02:45
This was the next available move to get Desmond Bain, according
3:02:49
to the Magic source. He added that the Grizzlies are
3:02:52
still expected to build around John Maranton, Jaron Jackson
3:02:55
Junior and will likely extend Jackson this offseason.
3:03:00
Desmond Bain this year Average career highs 19.2 points per
3:03:04
game 6.1 rebounds 5.3 assists a game shot 48.4 field goal
3:03:11
percentage. I believe in the playoffs or
3:03:15
actually I don't have the exact numbers for three-point percent
3:03:18
for this year speedy, but his career is a 41% shooter from
3:03:23
three and he was 47% from the field.
3:03:25
I think this year was even better from three if I'm not
3:03:28
mistaken. I think he was 39 from three
3:03:30
this year. His peak year was 20/22.
3:03:32
He was 42.8 I believe from three.
3:03:35
So when we're talking guys that shoot around 40%, we're talking
3:03:39
about the best shooters in the league.
3:03:41
And Desmond Bain is one of the best shooting guards or shooters
3:03:44
of a that is a guard. I don't know if he's a point I I
3:03:47
wouldn't. I would probably say he's a 2
3:03:48
guard he. Plays two guard mostly.
3:03:51
But you know, he handles the ball really well for A2 guard.
3:03:53
So you know, you can, he's not super tall.
3:03:56
But listen, everything is a bucket for this guy.
3:04:00
Catch and shoot. They say as a catch and shoot
3:04:02
three. I think he had the highest
3:04:04
percentage in the league, something like that, where he's
3:04:06
the best catch and shoot three guy in the NBA right now with
3:04:09
volume. So he's taking shots and he's
3:04:12
making them. This is a guy that you want.
3:04:14
And then on the other side of the court, huge two way player.
3:04:19
He's one of the better. You know, it kind of reminds me
3:04:22
of more like Mikhail Bridges defensively as a little bit more
3:04:25
stocky, a lot more muscular of a player, but similar type of he's
3:04:29
going to stay in front of you. He might not be the best
3:04:31
defender in the league, but he's certainly going to stay in front
3:04:34
of your guy and he's going to make you work.
3:04:36
He's a two way player. He's a guy that anyone would
3:04:39
want on their team. However, what price are teams
3:04:45
going to pay for this? That 2026 pick, Speedy could be
3:04:48
a top three pick. That Sun's pick, because we know
3:04:51
the Sun's are getting rid of KD. We know Bradley Beal is washed
3:04:55
up beyond recognition and all they're going to have is Booker.
3:04:58
So that is a lottery team. We've seen it already.
3:05:01
That's nothing. They should rebuild around
3:05:04
Booker. They should get rid of everybody
3:05:06
else. They should try to bottom out.
3:05:08
But they don't have that pick next year.
3:05:11
So I don't think they're going to try to bottom out because why
3:05:15
would you if you don't have the pick now?
3:05:18
At the same time, is Desmond Bain worth enough to give up
3:05:22
what could be a franchise player in that trap?
3:05:25
Not to mention a whole bunch of other rotational pieces.
3:05:28
Most people think Cole Anthony's decent rotational guard, you
3:05:31
know this guy off the bench that you wouldn't mind being your
3:05:33
backup point guard. Pope was signed to a nice
3:05:36
contract before the season and then had one of the worst
3:05:39
seasons of anybody that played in basketball this year coming
3:05:42
away from Denver. So they tried to get off of that
3:05:45
contract. And I heard that one of these
3:05:46
picks, Speedy, was actually thrown in to sweeten the pot to
3:05:50
take Caldwell Pope off of their hands.
3:05:53
So that's why it's 5 total picks with the swap instead of just 4.
3:05:58
But again, that's a lot to give up for a catch and shoot 3 and D
3:06:04
guy. Now we saw the Knicks do it with
3:06:06
Mikhail Bridges, right? Mikhail Bridges, I would say is
3:06:08
a little bit more diverse offensively, but he wasn't this
3:06:11
year, right? You would say that Bain, Bain
3:06:14
had a 49 point game. In fact, you're going to see
3:06:16
clips from it right now earlier this season.
3:06:19
The guy's for real. He could he can really put it in
3:06:22
the basket and he does all the little things right as well.
3:06:25
Six rebounds, 5 assists. That's that's two guard numbers.
3:06:30
That's what Halliburton's numbers look like.
3:06:32
As far as outside of the assists, he does everything just
3:06:35
as good as that guy. He's better defensively than
3:06:37
Halliburton. Obviously he's not the passer
3:06:39
Halliburton is, but if you needed a guy like this and what
3:06:43
did the Magic need, they needed shooters.
3:06:47
He's perfect for that team. Think about what they have.
3:06:50
They got Paulo Bongchero, who's this young superstar in the
3:06:54
making and when you and he drives to the lane, people give
3:06:58
him attention. What do guys like that need
3:07:00
people to kick out to? What?
3:07:02
Do they not have a guy like Desmond Bain?
3:07:04
Now they have him, Is it enough? The East is wide open, Speedy.
3:07:10
Do you think it's enough to get out of the East getting Bain?
3:07:14
You have to get him to that Max potential that you're going to
3:07:17
believe that he was the first round pick and he fell on the
3:07:20
draft that year. He was supposed to be more like
3:07:21
a mid first round pick as that three and D type guy.
3:07:24
But again, is it enough when you have those other picks that you
3:07:27
could have used to accumulate more death?
3:07:29
I was saying they just need a more of a backcourt.
3:07:31
They have not developed him well with Cole Anthony, who I liked
3:07:35
at the time. I thought he would be a better
3:07:36
player than he's trying to be. Like he said, he's a serviceable
3:07:38
backup but not much of a starter.
3:07:41
Anthony Black was another one that was a first round pick that
3:07:44
came from Arkansas. Very fast point guard, but not
3:07:47
overly, not overly skilled overall as a shooter.
3:07:50
So you're really looking at a lot of stretch fours on this
3:07:53
team. Guys that could shoot with good
3:07:55
size. Great defensive team like we
3:07:57
discussed last year, but was not the offensive team that they
3:07:59
needed. Bain is a great fit for them.
3:08:01
I love the fit, but it's not the only player they need now.
3:08:04
Maybe they're hoping that maybe other teams either overreact to
3:08:07
trades or obviously the Celtics maybe not being as good without
3:08:10
Tatum, but the Celtics are still a very good roster overall that
3:08:13
probably we would still take over Orlando, Milwaukee, maybe
3:08:18
they trade things, but the Knicks are still going to be
3:08:20
there, the Cavs and the Pacers. So again, they needed a lot more
3:08:24
than just the one player. We'll see.
3:08:25
Maybe they do get a free agent. Maybe they have something up
3:08:27
their sleeve. If that's the case, maybe it
3:08:29
doesn't look as bad. But I think they needed those
3:08:30
extra picks to make it work. Like you said, that Sun's pick I
3:08:33
definitely could see being that high.
3:08:36
I mean, that's a, that's a price, right?
3:08:38
That Sun's pick surprise. I, I mean, we've keep hearing
3:08:42
about the draft next year. We know the Boozer brothers will
3:08:46
be involved in that draft. I was just going to mention
3:08:48
them. We know AJ Dibansa is going to
3:08:52
be, I don't know if I'm 100% sure he's pronouncing his name
3:08:55
right, but that's the guy that I keep hearing is going to be the
3:08:58
other guy in BYU. It's a loaded draft you gave up
3:09:04
that for and a whole bunch else for a three and D guy.
3:09:08
You better be right. You better be right or you're
3:09:12
really mortgaging really your job.
3:09:15
You know, as a general manager of this team, if you're wrong
3:09:17
about this, you're fired. Yeah.
3:09:19
And when the Knick, you brought up Bridges when the Knicks
3:09:21
traded for Bridges last year, you kind of thought of it.
3:09:24
All right. They're a player or two away
3:09:26
type thing. But Orlando is not thought of
3:09:29
that way. They're they're two to three
3:09:31
kind of thing for an injury for that type of versatile big man.
3:09:34
Obviously Ponchero was hurt for a while.
3:09:36
A lot of their other draft picks have not developed as well as
3:09:39
they should because of injuries either in their front court.
3:09:42
But we knew that the need of the back court as a result.
3:09:44
The problem is they weren't just that one piece where like the
3:09:47
Knicks had it with Bridges. Then they end up getting talent
3:09:49
later in the offseason, which I guess I was unexpected out of
3:09:52
nowhere, not completely, but enough.
3:09:55
They're say, all right, the Knicks are an obvious
3:09:57
championship contender now. Obviously they didn't, but they
3:10:01
made the Eastern Conference finals.
3:10:02
I don't think you're thinking that with Orlando right now,
3:10:03
just on this move alone. If they do something else,
3:10:07
maybe, but they're still not there yet.
3:10:09
And maybe they're banking on the fact that they're not going to
3:10:11
get a free agent. But why would you even sell your
3:10:13
hand like that and be impulsive? Is France hurt?
3:10:16
How? How hurt is France?
3:10:18
Well, no, he's not hurt now. He he, he was hurt during the
3:10:20
season, though. He right.
3:10:21
So they just had, they just fought.
3:10:22
Injuries this past year, but the thing that.
3:10:25
I was fascinated by and maybe Jake you can touch on.
3:10:28
This with the Magic, they decided to make Jalen Suggs
3:10:33
their point guard for real and not just mess around with this,
3:10:36
You know, maybe he'll play off ball and call Anthony, he'll
3:10:38
play play point guard. They went with Suggs when he was
3:10:41
on the court. They were really good team.
3:10:43
When he got hurt and he wasn't out there, they were not a very
3:10:46
good team. Do you think that with this
3:10:49
edition that they are a top four team in the East next year?
3:10:52
Because that's what they're asking, that's what they're
3:10:54
saying they're doing. I would imagine by trading all
3:10:57
these picks like that's the last move, isn't it?
3:11:00
Yeah, I think it's it's really interesting.
3:11:02
I think it's really close. I mean, obviously now with, you
3:11:05
know, Jason Tatum going down with Achilles injury, you
3:11:06
figure. They're out for this.
3:11:08
Year, I mean, they'll probably still compete with Jaylen Brown,
3:11:10
but you figure they're definitely not going to be the
3:11:11
strongest team. So right now that probably
3:11:13
leaves, you know, probably solidify top three being the
3:11:16
Knicks, the Cavs and the Pacers. And then you kind of see who's
3:11:19
that fourth team. And I think the Magic could
3:11:21
probably fit in there right away because I don't really see too
3:11:25
many other teams, you know, big up there and contending and the
3:11:28
magic. And like you said, you know, I
3:11:30
think they they put Jalen Suggs in there as a point guard.
3:11:33
It worked out really well for them.
3:11:34
And I guess they weren't really getting what they wanted out of
3:11:36
Cole Anthony. Similar with Markelle Fultz that
3:11:38
they I think they were maybe more just looking for a backup
3:11:40
roll up point guard. So if they add in someone like
3:11:42
Desmond Bayne, who we kind of just because he's like a hybrid
3:11:45
2 guard who can give you great on the defense on the other side
3:11:48
of the ball. And then, you know, maybe take
3:11:50
the pressure a little bit off of Paolo and Franz as well.
3:11:55
So I think it's a great move for Orlando, although you are right
3:11:59
about that fish, you know that that draft pick from Phoenix
3:12:01
could be really valuable at this and they could bite them.
3:12:04
In the ass. If it doesn't go the right way.
3:12:05
So it is a higher risk gamble, but I think in the East,
3:12:09
especially when you're not going to have to deal with Boston for
3:12:11
this year, it's absolutely the right move to go for it.
3:12:14
And then the other side of it from Memphis, you still have
3:12:17
John Moran and he is still a young star who, you know,
3:12:19
obviously got to figure out the off the court issues.
3:12:22
And then again, he has been dealing with injuries here and
3:12:24
there. But you just think about how
3:12:25
many teams in the West, I mean, you look how close the Western
3:12:28
Conference was down the stretch. They only were like separated
3:12:31
most teams by like a game or two at the end of the season.
3:12:34
So I think it makes perfect sense for them to try to retool
3:12:37
and figure they're probably not going to be able to go for.
3:12:39
And how dense the West, I mean, the West has always been battle
3:12:43
tested conference and you have teams all over the place who
3:12:47
are, you know, willing to compete.
3:12:49
And, you know, maybe they can try to build around JA and Jaron
3:12:52
Jackson. You know, obviously they got to
3:12:54
pay him. Of course, you know, they got to
3:12:55
give him his contract, you know, and I think he has earned it.
3:12:57
Obviously. I think he was what was he
3:12:59
second or third and defensive player of the I believe Evan
3:13:02
Mobley didn't come out with the with the yeah, I think Jackson
3:13:04
should have won it last year too.
3:13:05
I think they gave it to Draymond Green, right.
3:13:07
He did play, he played very dominantly.
3:13:09
And, you know, he's kind of been the anchor for their defense.
3:13:12
Similar to a sense like a Rudy Gobert, but it may.
3:13:14
Be a little bit better of a score.
3:13:16
Yes. But yeah, honestly, I think it's
3:13:19
a great move for both teams because, you know, the Grizzlies
3:13:21
can kind of, I guess, you know, re evaluate a little bit, see
3:13:23
what they have with John JJ and who they can put around them.
3:13:26
And then for Orlando, it's you know what?
3:13:28
You might as well go for it. Now.
3:13:30
If you see that the Indiana Pacers with their miracle run
3:13:32
that they've had this year all the way to the Finals, and then,
3:13:34
you know, you only really have to deal with the Knicks and the
3:13:36
Cavs. So if you have a Magic, you
3:13:38
know, you might as well go for it.
3:13:39
So I think it's a great move for them.
3:13:41
Doesn't make sense if you're the Grizzlies, right?
3:13:43
They got rid of their coach. They it was clear that Bain was
3:13:47
making the money. That had to be given to
3:13:49
extensions to to Jackson and or Moran, depending on if they want
3:13:53
to do that at all. That's a whole nother story.
3:13:55
Well, I'm sure it's something we will talk about a lot this
3:13:58
offseason. Is John Moran staying in
3:14:00
Memphis. They could say whatever they
3:14:02
want. They really can.
3:14:04
They could say we're going to build around JA, OK, But if they
3:14:08
get the number one pick, they look into it next year by
3:14:11
getting that or maybe they get the number three pick.
3:14:16
There's four or five guys coming out next year's draft that can
3:14:19
easily be a franchise cornerstone.
3:14:21
John Moran wasn't number. One pick he was #2.
3:14:24
Right. Doesn't have to be the number
3:14:25
one guy and there's a bunch of guys that go later in the draft
3:14:29
that people do well. I mean Bain was what, 25?
3:14:32
No, he was in the top ten. No, he was like 25.
3:14:35
He was supposed to be like a mid first looking it up, Desmond
3:14:37
Bain went. 30th TCU. I believe. 30th I think you
3:14:43
could. You could argue the fish looking
3:14:45
back though that even though JA was the second.
3:14:47
Overall pick looking at. How Zion has.
3:14:49
Panned out with all his injury concerns and the fact that he
3:14:52
has clearly not, you know, been motivated to stay in shape, the
3:14:55
job probably is the the right choice for the number one pick
3:14:57
in hindsight, of course. But you know, obviously he's got
3:15:00
his off court issues and the fact that he has dealt with
3:15:02
injuries himself too. But he's definitely when he's
3:15:05
healthy, he's been a fantastic player.
3:15:07
You know, I guess you would still take JA today.
3:15:10
Yeah, he kind of seems like a little bit more of like a like a
3:15:14
bouncier, maybe even if you. Want to say that like Derrick
3:15:17
Rose from? Back in the day, like just, I
3:15:19
mean, maybe you wanted to work on his shot a little bit more.
3:15:21
We're not willing to say that RJ Barrett would be better than
3:15:24
either one of them, though. Yeah, I don't think, I don't
3:15:26
think that's happening. Apparently he might be a traded
3:15:28
again. Oh, is he now RJ?
3:15:32
Good for RJ collecting those checks.
3:15:35
We loved him when he was in New York.
3:15:36
Sometimes he had a couple good. Shots.
3:15:39
Most people loved him. That wasn't Julius Randall.
3:15:43
Yeah, we didn't hear enough about that.
3:15:45
Beef, I think RJ. Is just kind of a weird dude.
3:15:47
I think that might have just been what it.
3:15:49
Was Zion I? Mean the stories with Zion, with
3:15:53
the women and the the videos and the I didn't even mention that.
3:15:57
But you're right. He's getting way out there, bro.
3:16:00
He's he's, I mean, he's only what is even 27 yet.
3:16:04
Like he's, he's got to be. I mean, he's should.
3:16:07
Be 19 in his career and like, you know, he was he definitely.
3:16:12
Played lighter. Last year, he's 24.
3:16:14
That's. Crazy he's only 22,000.
3:16:19
Wow, wow. So he's still young.
3:16:21
Right, He's only he's only three years older than.
3:16:23
Me. He's only two years old than me.
3:16:26
It's crazy. Can you imagine?
3:16:27
So I mean look. You know, if you're in your
3:16:30
early 20s. And you have millions of
3:16:32
dollars. I guess you just find all the
3:16:34
people on. Only fans and have yourself a
3:16:35
grand old time, because that's certainly what Zion's been
3:16:39
doing. Maybe it's time for him to get
3:16:41
on a team that wins, you know, and start playing like he
3:16:44
deserves this money. It is kind of a shame New
3:16:47
Orleans just can't put together a product.
3:16:49
It looked like for a couple years ago, it looked like they
3:16:51
were about to turn a corner and it just went completely South so
3:16:55
fast over there. It's a shame.
3:16:58
I thought when they when they added CJ McConnell a couple
3:17:01
years ago after Portland decided to unload them, I thought he
3:17:03
could have gave them like great leadership and it.
3:17:05
Looked like they were going to turn things.
3:17:06
Around and of course you know with Brandon Ingram as well as
3:17:09
being cast off from the Lakers even when they had Lonzo before
3:17:12
his tragic injuries went down, it seemed like they were
3:17:14
building a little bit of a core around there.
3:17:16
But it all it all put down the Zion and you know his.
3:17:20
I have to ask you a question, Jake.
3:17:22
I got into an argument with Errol months ago and Speedy
3:17:24
knows exactly where I'm going. I'm going to say Brandon Ingram,
3:17:27
always favorite player. I know where you're going with
3:17:28
this. So Errol thinks Brandon Ingram.
3:17:32
Because again. Number two overall pick, he
3:17:34
thought he. Was, you know, one of the great.
3:17:36
The best players in the NBA. And I was like, most analytical
3:17:39
guys think he's terrible and he's got a, you know, very low
3:17:43
efficiency rating. And I said I'd much rather have
3:17:47
Mikhail Bridges than Brandon Ingram.
3:17:50
Now, you can say that Brandon Ingram is a better scorer than
3:17:54
Mikhail Bridges, but I don't think he does anything else
3:17:56
better. And Errol disagreed with me.
3:17:59
What do you think now that the season's over for both of those
3:18:01
guys? Who you taking?
3:18:03
You know, if it was early in their careers, I think I
3:18:06
probably still would have said Brandon Ingram because I felt
3:18:08
like the ceiling was probably higher.
3:18:09
But at this point in their. Careers Honestly, I think it
3:18:11
would take Mikhail Bridges just because Mikhail does like he
3:18:15
he's, I think, like you said, Brandon Ingram probably, you
3:18:18
know, shot for shot score. You probably would take Brandon
3:18:21
Ingram, but other than that, like Mikhail Bridges, I probably
3:18:24
would think he's a better defender.
3:18:25
I think he's probably a better facilitator at times.
3:18:28
You know, and Brandon Ingram, again, he he does that get
3:18:30
behind the ball a lot. But personally, I think I would
3:18:33
still stick with Mikhail Bridges because he's kind of like a glue
3:18:35
guy, honestly, like again, not not an All Star player, but I
3:18:38
think he's got that potential and he's been like right on the
3:18:40
cusp of it many times. But you know, he's just had a
3:18:42
lot of great teammates, you know, Kevin Durant, Devin
3:18:45
Booker, Jalen Brunson, guys who've been, you know, better
3:18:48
than him. So he has, I don't think he's
3:18:49
had that chance to shine. But you know, when he was in
3:18:51
Brooklyn for that one or two years, we saw how great he was
3:18:54
and that potential he had with Cam Johnson and it's or Cam
3:18:58
Thomas. Excuse me.
3:18:59
And you could clearly see that the guy had the ability to be, I
3:19:03
think, an All Star level player. But, you know, I think teams
3:19:05
probably prefer him more as like a six man or or, you know, a
3:19:08
really good role player or even, you know, the like the solid,
3:19:12
you know, 3rd or 4th scorer on the starting lineup.
3:19:15
But yeah, personally, at this point, I think you are right.
3:19:17
I probably would go with Mikhail Bridges.
3:19:19
But you know, I, I think also Brandon Ingram kind of did get
3:19:22
screwed over a little early in his career, especially when, you
3:19:24
know, LeBron came over to the Lakers in the LeBron moved to
3:19:27
the Lakers. LeBron the the infamous Lebron's
3:19:31
going to trade you. You're seven of the GM.
3:19:37
LeBron. Sock to chime in though real
3:19:39
quick on the whole Mikkel Bridges.
3:19:40
Versus Brandon Ingram. Debate, of course.
3:19:43
The best, we always say it all the time, the best ability is.
3:19:45
Availability and of course Mikkel Bridges has not missed a
3:19:48
single NBA game. And if we're looking at the
3:19:51
amount of games they've just played, Brandon Ingram has
3:19:55
played 495 games while after while coming being in the league
3:19:59
20/16/2017 and McHale Bridges being in the league 2018-2019
3:20:03
has played 556 games. So that is quite the quite the
3:20:08
quite the amount of games and just not short amount of time
3:20:11
that he's been because it's only two years, two seasons ahead of
3:20:13
him. But I, I, I that can't go
3:20:15
unnoticed though, like the amount of time, the amount of
3:20:17
availability that McHale Bridges has is absolutely unmatched by
3:20:20
anybody in the league. So.
3:20:22
Yeah, Tommy, even the one year I think when he got traded from
3:20:25
Phoenix to Brooklyn or it was made every game, yeah, he
3:20:28
played, I think he actually got an extra.
3:20:29
Game somehow like he I think he played 83 games, like he might
3:20:32
have really played one more game.
3:20:34
More than he was. Allowed, which like I didn't
3:20:36
even know you could do because I thought there's like like
3:20:39
minimum but also the maximum. Where you're not allowed to, you
3:20:42
know. Because of the the signings and
3:20:43
you have to get, you know, medical clear, but somehow he
3:20:45
played an. Extra game and so.
3:20:46
Like you said, he he's just healthy all the time.
3:20:48
He's always there and he's ready.
3:20:49
He even played, yeah, he played 83 games in a season.
3:20:52
Who knew we can do that? We we didn't.
3:20:53
We never think of that except with football because they're
3:20:56
traded and they don't get to buy we.
3:20:58
Can. All right, let's.
3:21:00
Let's move on from this. It should be interesting to see
3:21:02
how the magic play out. This next one, we got one.
3:21:05
More. Segment of content before we get
3:21:09
done tonight and we'll go to what's that smell after that,
3:21:12
but we got to talk about Stanley Cup.
3:21:14
Speedy Panthers win Game 5. Take a command, take a three.
3:21:19
I shouldn't say commanding lead. It's a 3-2 lead in the Stanley
3:21:21
Cup finals. Like you said last time that a
3:21:24
team had come back down 3/2 was 2011 Bruins.
3:21:28
The 2011 Bruins. I believe Tim Thomas was the
3:21:32
goaltender back then. But the Panthers just played.
3:21:38
Panthers hockey man like you. Watch them play and.
3:21:42
It started from. The opening face off the opening
3:21:47
faceoff and guys, I have two different ones on there.
3:21:51
I think you're going to play the second clip.
3:21:52
The other one is going to show you the very first second of the
3:21:55
game when Brad Marshall takes the opening faceoff and gets it
3:22:00
goes right to the net and scores and they're up 3.
3:22:02
Nothing and the game's basically over now we saw that happen in
3:22:06
game four and the Oilers came back three and tied to 3/3 and
3:22:10
eventually won in overtime. There was no letting off the gas
3:22:13
in this game. Speedy, they they had absolute
3:22:16
no mercy for it. Give you some of the stats from
3:22:19
the game. So again, it was five to two
3:22:20
final. They go up 32.
3:22:22
Martian had two goals early in the game, Becomes the first
3:22:26
player to score five goals in two different Stanley Cups with
3:22:31
two different teams doing it with that Bruins team in 2011.
3:22:35
He also is one of seven players to score five goals in two cups
3:22:39
and is the first one to do it since Mario Lemieux in 199192
3:22:44
season. Also ties, I'm assuming.
3:22:46
I think he was on the Rangers at the time of 94 SA Teekin in, who
3:22:50
had I think more goals that that postseason than teeth, as the
3:22:54
only two players who've done that at age 35 or older.
3:22:57
Panthers now have 15 games, scoring four more goals this
3:23:00
postseason, tied for second most in NHL history, only trailing
3:23:04
the 9192 Penguins, who did it one more time. 16 Sam Bennett,
3:23:08
15th goal of the postseason in this game. 27 goals in the
3:23:12
playoffs in the last three years, second behind Dry Seidel,
3:23:15
who has 34. Sam Bennett has been an absolute
3:23:19
east in this playoffs. He was incredible, incredible
3:23:23
earlier in the series, still going.
3:23:25
They have just a lot of guys like Sam Bennett.
3:23:27
They just do. And look, Coach Knobloch
3:23:31
undecided who the goaltender is going to be tomorrow night.
3:23:34
That is the biggest issue, right?
3:23:36
Speedy, they we get to this point of the year and you don't
3:23:39
know who your goalie is. How can you expect to win the
3:23:42
Stanley Cup? I can't remember a single team
3:23:44
in this situation that one, can you?
3:23:47
Well, the the only one that's the unconventional, but the guy
3:23:49
started most of the second-half of the postseason was what Vegas
3:23:53
did two years ago, starting 4. Goalies in the in the
3:23:55
postseason, but Aiden Hill still started probably most of the
3:23:58
time where it was enough of a consistency basis because they
3:24:02
won against they won in the Stanley Cup against Florida in
3:24:05
five games. I think Dallas they won in six
3:24:07
games, but it was a comfortable type situation.
3:24:10
This type of thing. They keep flip flopping now.
3:24:13
You're right. I don't know if there's ever a
3:24:15
coach that has gotten less confident and just flipping
3:24:18
goalies this quickly and have it to succeed to the same level
3:24:22
that we've seen. Obviously when the Penguins won
3:24:24
the Cup on Matt Murray, he they did it earlier in the post
3:24:27
season. They just stuck with it.
3:24:28
He just happened to play well. So it's one of those things that
3:24:31
this often it's not something that you want any team to do.
3:24:36
It's just the way they end up building a team when you have to
3:24:38
pay dry slightly, you have to pay McDavid to build up Dave, to
3:24:41
pay these contracts to build up depth, and none of them are
3:24:44
consistently good. That's the kind of thing that
3:24:46
could be a spark. Now they're used to it.
3:24:49
They did this against the Kings and they were down to nothing in
3:24:51
game in the first round. They ended up pulling Skinner
3:24:54
for Pickard. Pickard's a spark plug.
3:24:56
They end up winning four straight to win that series and
3:24:58
they flip-flopped many other times in those next two series.
3:25:02
They beat Vegas and Dallas in back-to-back series in five
3:25:05
games and flip-flopped goalies a lot pulled Skinner.
3:25:08
He got his confidence back after that and I think that's what
3:25:12
they're trying to expect them to do here.
3:25:14
Now that's probably the more likely scenario, but I'm I
3:25:17
applaud knoblock for not revealing it because you don't
3:25:19
want to show your hand to Florida.
3:25:21
Have them prepared differently, especially with Florida having
3:25:23
the last change now going back home.
3:25:25
So you don't want to have to prepare for this goalie's
3:25:28
weaknesses versus the other goalies weaknesses.
3:25:31
So I applaud Knoblock for doing that.
3:25:33
It's something that Edmonton is going to have to tighten up
3:25:35
defensively, though, especially like you're saying on these
3:25:37
opening face offs where Florida, who's not supposed to be the
3:25:40
faster team in this series, is breaking out in space,
3:25:43
especially in the first period, a lot more often than you've
3:25:46
seen with a lot of these older wingers.
3:25:48
And the reason I I just said Florida still had The X Factor
3:25:53
on the second and third lines were those players that like
3:25:56
Bennett that had those versatile type setups.
3:25:59
Reinhart scored a goal in that game.
3:26:00
Carter or Hagee, we haven't seen as much in this series, but
3:26:03
we've seen him in the past be that guy.
3:26:04
We saw him last year be that guy in the Stanley Cup and they
3:26:09
dominated the Edmonton second and third lines.
3:26:11
And the wingers that I thought would be more physical for
3:26:13
Edmonton have not been as much there.
3:26:16
And maybe they're in the penalty box too much.
3:26:18
Maybe they're just not as fast off the jump.
3:26:20
But that was a big reason I thought they would win this
3:26:22
series in seven, which they still can, but they have to play
3:26:24
better defensively. They're forward wingers if they
3:26:26
want to beat Florida. It's Reinhardt, it's Bennett,
3:26:31
it's Martian, it's these types of.
3:26:35
Players, it's amazing they were able to get a.
3:26:36
Marsh and I feel like Paul Maurice when he took over this
3:26:39
team, we should talk about Paul Maurice a little bit because
3:26:41
let's remember he took over for this squad right after they won
3:26:45
the Presidents Cup and everyone said, what are you doing?
3:26:49
You just had the best team in the league and you're getting
3:26:51
rid of your coach. Well, look, look how smart they
3:26:54
look. Oh, yeah.
3:26:55
Because remember the interim coat?
3:26:56
It was an interim coach that year.
3:26:57
That was the whole Quenville saga.
3:26:59
Andrew Burnett becomes the interim coach that year.
3:27:01
That was the 20. 122 season, I think a year.
3:27:05
He had spent a year with the Devils that assisted coach and
3:27:07
then he ended up coaching Nashville.
3:27:08
It was horrible. It's it really was just kind of
3:27:14
miraculous that they were able to get Maurice at the right
3:27:16
time. The way that they play, it's
3:27:19
like Maurice said, I want everyone on my team to play like
3:27:22
Brad Marshan because he's the guy that used to constantly
3:27:26
terrorize them and now they have him on the team.
3:27:31
It's just ridiculous. It's just grinding out every
3:27:35
single shift. With guys that have good.
3:27:38
Skill. Usually those guys don't have
3:27:41
elite skill. These guys do and they grind
3:27:44
like that. It's hard to play with them
3:27:46
forever. It leads to bad penalties.
3:27:49
We keep seeing it all series. They take dumb penalties because
3:27:53
they hate playing against these guys.
3:27:55
Nobody likes playing against these guys.
3:27:57
This is a really hard team to play against.
3:28:00
Look, last year I thought the this Florida team I think is
3:28:03
even better than the team that won last year.
3:28:05
And I thought when the Rangers played them, I was like, how are
3:28:08
you supposed to beat this team? Oh yeah, really?
3:28:10
Just didn't the the Rangers even strength numbers and not so that
3:28:12
I'm not serious. There's plenty we don't have to
3:28:15
get into that the Rangers are probably selling.
3:28:17
The entire house by the end of this this next month here I
3:28:20
think in the next 4 weeks. That's going to look like a very
3:28:23
different team. I was referring to last year
3:28:24
though, when they were having the the power play versus even
3:28:27
strength fluctuation, which I think it's something that maybe
3:28:29
Edmonton's. Falling into a little bit, not
3:28:31
their even strength is anywhere. It's a lot better than what the
3:28:33
Rangers were last year. But again, having to rely on the
3:28:36
power play and not drawing as many penalties too, because
3:28:38
Florida has still been, I guess you could say, disciplined
3:28:40
enough outside of the one game, the the game four that they
3:28:43
lost. It's been disciplined enough and
3:28:46
they're hybrid forwards. Everyone says in hockey, like
3:28:49
you try to build like championship teams with three
3:28:51
centers and you could build the rest from there, build from the
3:28:54
middle out. Florida has tons of guys that
3:28:56
can play center wings that can play center too, which makes it
3:28:59
a tough matchup. And that's the one thing I
3:29:01
thought Edmonton, I had the physical wingers to adjust to.
3:29:03
It hasn't been enough. Still it look, Mcdavid's still
3:29:08
unstoppable. I mean, he had a goal in the
3:29:10
game. I think it's on the highlight.
3:29:12
That we have queued up right? Now, where he just kind of like
3:29:15
walks by everyone, here it is. Look at this.
3:29:17
He just kind of walks right in. Nothing you can do about it.
3:29:20
He's still the best offensive player in the world.
3:29:24
It's amazing what he can do. But if you're not going to do
3:29:27
that on every shift, and if you're not going to be able to
3:29:31
do that when it's the puck's not in the attack zone, this team's
3:29:35
going to kill you and you can't show up not ready and you cannot
3:29:39
fall behind. They've been playing with a.
3:29:42
Lot of fire falling behind on them.
3:29:44
The recipe for success tomorrow night, Speedy.
3:29:46
It's very simple. Get some power plays early and
3:29:49
get the lead. Get the lead and don't fall.
3:29:52
Whatever you have to do, don't fall into the it's, I guess you
3:29:56
want to call it a hybrid trap concept that they use because
3:29:59
Florida does that a lot. In the center.
3:30:00
Ice. Florida possessed the puck like
3:30:02
crazy in the 1st 10 minutes of that game.
3:30:05
At the end of outshot, including the one the first goal 8 to 1,
3:30:09
Edmonton finally had a ripple effect and they were able to
3:30:15
piece together those goals to be able to come back.
3:30:18
But then they did the same thing in game five, Game 4, they did
3:30:23
that. They were outside I think 1:50
3:30:24
in the first period. I mentioned that in my my 6
3:30:27
pack. And then the second game was the
3:30:29
same kind of thing. They were outside, I think 11 to
3:30:31
3 in the after the first period. Like they're not going to be
3:30:34
able to win like that. Not even, not even just the
3:30:36
total shots amount, but the possession of the puck has to be
3:30:39
so much better. Not to mention your goalie
3:30:43
forgot how to play. It's just a lot for the Oilers
3:30:47
to overcome. They have two of the three best
3:30:50
players in the world playing together on the power play get
3:30:54
on that power play, get a lead and you'll have a chance to win
3:30:57
this series still. But that's that's the real
3:31:00
message and that look at that that's Marshawn.
3:31:01
That's the opening face off talk about just deflating A-Team.
3:31:08
I don't know how you do it better that same point on the.
3:31:10
Ice Bennett scored his goal, too.
3:31:12
So I sent me something with that slot area against against the
3:31:16
goalie and then that's why I'm. Saying it's good for them not to
3:31:18
reveal it because then they'll be able to game plan even more
3:31:20
for it. I, I, I think I saw it.
3:31:23
I don't think they even broke 20 shots in the game if I'm not
3:31:27
mistaken. I think it was.
3:31:29
Like a really low shot number. And Picard, was it Picard or
3:31:33
Picard? Picard, Calvin Picard.
3:31:34
Picard. I want to say Picard because of
3:31:36
Star Trek. I just want to say it, you know,
3:31:39
But Picard. Picard here.
3:31:41
Let me, let me pull it up. Maybe one of our guys can get
3:31:44
the stats up for us, but I'm pretty sure they had like he had
3:31:48
like 14 saves on 18 shots and that's not going to get done.
3:31:53
Like it's just not. So let's yeah, 14 saves, 18
3:31:57
shots. Yeah, yeah, I saw that earlier.
3:31:59
Five goals on 18 shots and that's the guy they wanted to go
3:32:02
with ahead of. Skinner who?
3:32:06
Again, like you. Said he's lost his confidence.
3:32:09
How How are you supposed to get your confidence back against the
3:32:11
Panthers? I just don't.
3:32:13
He has this very weird bounce back mechanism though where it
3:32:16
doesn't work. It just probably is.
3:32:17
They need to win two games, going to do it twice in a row.
3:32:21
Look, this is what I think happens, Speedy.
3:32:23
I think if the Panthers get a lead early, it's going to get
3:32:27
ugly. Quick, I think that you're going
3:32:30
to end up seeing something like 7, two, and they're going to
3:32:33
party over there and they're going to do and they're going to
3:32:35
win. Back to backups for the first
3:32:37
time since Penguins. Yep, frigid goalie changes
3:32:44
against the Rangers and sparked him to two clubs.
3:32:46
Two cups? Well, at least.
3:32:48
The Rangers now have. That coach on their squad,
3:32:50
right? Like.
3:32:50
Sullivan's over here now, so I hope that could help for these
3:32:53
younger players at least. I mean, look at that.
3:32:56
I think it was. Was it Reinhardt or Ben?
3:32:58
I think it was. Reinhardt that just they.
3:33:00
He's just such a hard player to play against.
3:33:02
They slashed him, got the penalty.
3:33:05
You know, I think there's a major penalty.
3:33:06
The game was already over in that one.
3:33:08
It's just amazing how guys can just get under your skin with
3:33:12
the way they play. And no one does it better than
3:33:15
the Florida Panthers. Power to them.
3:33:17
I really expect them to kind of if they can get just all they
3:33:20
need is they they to get that first goal.
3:33:22
I don't see how they lose this next game.
3:33:23
What do you think, Speedy? Yeah.
3:33:25
And then also just the possession of the puck just has
3:33:28
to transition out of the zone faster off the face off faster
3:33:32
if you're. Edmonton and those second and
3:33:34
third line veteran players have to be much better than they've
3:33:38
been. Again, Edmondson doesn't want to
3:33:40
have to play the defensive style of game.
3:33:41
They want to be breaking out of the zone fast, which they have
3:33:43
the defensive and even to do that.
3:33:45
But it's a matter of not having to play just two periods and
3:33:50
expect to have these big runs because even the last series
3:33:53
they played against Dallas, they they it really their spark came
3:33:57
in the second period. It's a lot more and it's going
3:33:59
to be hard for them to rely on that again, trying to do what
3:34:03
they in game four fine. Now, granted, Florida's defense,
3:34:06
I don't think collectively has been as good as we were last
3:34:08
year, even though I think their offense has definitely been as
3:34:10
good as last year. I don't think their defense has
3:34:11
been as good as last year. So there's still, I think hope
3:34:13
for Edmonton if they can get that and going and stay
3:34:16
disciplined. It's just going to be a lot
3:34:17
harder to trust if you're not getting those depth forwards to
3:34:19
work. And that goes to where you were
3:34:21
predicting Fish. Zach Hyman's injury, I think,
3:34:24
has been much more costly. We said it before the series,
3:34:28
we're like, that guy might be a bridge too far to lose.
3:34:32
I thought they had enough but it didn't it.
3:34:34
Hasn't seemed like it. You have to be good on all four
3:34:38
lines against this Panthers team it.
3:34:39
Doesn't matter what line they put up against you, they're good
3:34:42
everywhere. And they?
3:34:43
Make you work for it. Without hymen, they don't have
3:34:47
that depth in the middle. They don't have that depth down,
3:34:50
down in that third line. It's just not enough and I
3:34:54
unless McDavid pulls a rabbit out of his hat his hat for two
3:34:57
straight games. I I don't Stewart Skinner had
3:35:00
one random shot out on him because like the the memes on
3:35:03
Twitter like to say they they either gets a shot out or have a
3:35:06
like a. 850 save percentage all right well, look, we'll see what
3:35:12
happens tomorrow night It's been a really good series 2 really
3:35:15
great teams rematch from. Last year, we only got one thing
3:35:19
left to do tonight, guys. Last segment, What's that smell?
3:35:25
Hold up, what is that smell? What's that smell?
3:35:33
Wow, you don't see that every day.
3:35:38
Yep, you know that sound, That's what's.
3:35:40
That. Smell.
3:35:41
Let's get. Everybody in on the camera.
3:35:43
For what's that smell? See if Jabba can make it back.
3:35:47
It'd be great, but we're going to go to the big full view.
3:35:51
Once we get everybody in there, we go see if Jabba can join us.
3:35:56
If not, we'll just go through this.
3:35:58
We're going to start with Tommy. Guys, if you have something the
3:36:01
way that what's that smell is just like anything that's
3:36:03
happened the last few days. Usually on Monday show we do it
3:36:06
over what happened over the weekend.
3:36:08
Just a weird story that, you know, just kind of rubbed you
3:36:12
the wrong way or maybe even if it's a good story, we say it
3:36:16
smells like something. So you got to tell at the end of
3:36:19
it. What does that smell like?
3:36:20
You got to tell us what it smells like.
3:36:22
So we'll go. Tommy Jabba, if you you guys
3:36:29
want to try one. Zach, Jake, Aaron, you guys want
3:36:31
to try one? You don't have to Sure, I'll
3:36:35
give one a shot. Jake's going to give it a shot.
3:36:38
I'll I'll try to think. As we go along, I'm thinking of
3:36:42
1, right? Now so if you.
3:36:43
Come up with one, we'll call on you, but.
3:36:46
If not, I won't. Jake.
3:36:47
We will call on you so. To go, Tommy.
3:36:49
Jabba, Jake, Speedy. Me all right let's get some the
3:36:53
sound on right here we go and let's start it off with Tommy's
3:36:57
scoops for what's that smell all right all right all right so
3:37:02
basically it broke today I believe yeah today it was just
3:37:05
announced that. Competitive eater known as I
3:37:09
guess people would say the goat now Joey Chestnut was just
3:37:12
announced to make his return to the most famous Nathan's Coney
3:37:17
Island 4th of July hot dog eating contest after Nathan's
3:37:20
last year decided or I'm sorry just decided to lift a ban that
3:37:24
was implemented last year. Now for those who don't know,
3:37:27
the reason why he was banned last year was having filmed a
3:37:30
commercial for Impossible Meat hot dog commercial where
3:37:36
Nathan's decided to ban him because, you know, ban him from
3:37:40
competing in the future. Didn't like the commercial,
3:37:42
didn't like that the Nathan's hot dog guy is over there with.
3:37:45
Impossible meat. Anyways, however, after last
3:37:49
year's poor viewership with the hot dog eating contest and even
3:37:53
after a makeshift sort of hot dog eating contest that saw Joey
3:37:57
Chestnut versus a long time rival, a long time competitive
3:38:00
rival Kobayashi and another hot dog eating contest which aired
3:38:04
on Netflix at Rey Mysterio, Mark Cuban did pretty well for the
3:38:08
viewing ships. However, after that, Nate, here
3:38:11
we are about a month away from it.
3:38:12
Nathan's decided to lift the ban from Joey Chestnut, meaning that
3:38:16
he will be competing in this year's contest.
3:38:19
However, it's just very, very, I guess, very stupid move.
3:38:24
You know, there's no reason that they should have ever banned him
3:38:28
in the 1st place. I get that they didn't like him
3:38:30
representing an impossible meet. Nobody ever watches the hot dog
3:38:34
eating contest besides watching most famous Joey Chestnut even
3:38:38
had a time where he was up against YouTube sensation
3:38:41
competitive eater Matthew Stoney where he actually lost and then
3:38:44
beat him the year right after. You know it's pretty good stuff
3:38:46
when watching Joey Chestnut should have never banned him in
3:38:49
the 1st place because I don't know what they were thinking
3:38:51
over some nasty hot dog eating company.
3:38:53
So what does it smell like? It smells like a steaming Hot
3:38:57
Chili cheese dog with some from under cheese from under my nuts.
3:39:01
So there we go. We met Joey at the Super Bowl.
3:39:06
We did. I was just going to mention
3:39:07
that. Yeah, we were going to sit down
3:39:08
and talk with him. I actually asked him about.
3:39:10
It and you know what? And he was just.
3:39:14
Like, kind of like threw his hands up.
3:39:15
He's like, I don't know, man. I didn't really think there was
3:39:17
going to be a problem with it, but maybe we can get him on.
3:39:20
I actually do have his Gmail. Oh, look at that.
3:39:22
That'll be great, especially right before the hot dog getting
3:39:25
contest. That'll be great.
3:39:27
Well, I I'm probably not going to get him right before the
3:39:29
contest. I mean.
3:39:29
Before after that, it'll work it'll be that'll be a but that
3:39:32
was a good one all right, so. For my what smells topic of the
3:39:36
week I'm going. To go to a little bit of Homer
3:39:38
pack, I'm going. To go to the Dallas.
3:39:40
Cowboys head coach head coach Brian Schottheimer said that and
3:39:45
he's I believe it was his end of the minute mandatory mini camp
3:39:48
interview that the Cowboys weren't going to win and when
3:39:52
they win, their coaching staff is going to get rated.
3:39:56
What winning does he think that the Cowboys are going to be
3:39:59
doing after the horrible season that they've had, losing all of
3:40:04
their free agents, going elsewhere after I believe, I
3:40:07
forget who it was, I think it was.
3:40:10
DeMarcus Lawrence going to the Seahawks and saying that he
3:40:12
wanted to leave Dallas because he wanted to actually win.
3:40:15
Having, you know, Twitter fights with Micah Parsons.
3:40:18
And now Micah Parsons can't do anything except play competitive
3:40:21
winning football. And Bryce Schottenheimer thinks
3:40:23
he's going to come out here as a first time head coach and win
3:40:27
and then his coaching steps going to get rated when they win
3:40:30
after. Mike McCarthy, by the way, was
3:40:33
just let go, not even fire, just let go by Jerry Jones in the
3:40:37
organization because they deemed that he was not good enough.
3:40:39
And they said go ahead and interview elsewhere.
3:40:41
And now he's not even a head coach in the National Football
3:40:44
League. What winning does he think is
3:40:46
going to happen for his team? So yeah, to me, this smells like
3:40:50
fresh horseshit and it's completely asinine.
3:40:54
I mean, they're not even going to be.
3:40:56
They will be lucky if they win. Seven games this.
3:41:00
Upcoming season. So yeah, I don't know what Brian
3:41:02
Schottenheimer thinks he's doing he's not his father.
3:41:05
He is no coach Marty Schottenheimer.
3:41:07
And that man was unlucky that he never won for how great of a
3:41:10
coach he was. So yeah, Brian, just stop, bro.
3:41:14
Stop trying to scare up headlines Oh, man, Jabba, we got
3:41:19
the sound working, bud, does it work?
3:41:21
Yeah, we got you what do you got for us?
3:41:24
I'm. I'm.
3:41:25
Going to give a good one because it's it's been you guys have
3:41:30
been shitting on people which is fine to me but the crazy part is
3:41:36
born and raised in Lincoln, NE and getting.
3:41:40
To the College World Series. And getting to meet so many
3:41:45
people that love the College World Series.
3:41:50
And get to. Experience it and sharing
3:41:53
stories. With fathers and sons.
3:41:56
And my dad is my everything and I lost him three months ago and
3:42:04
hearing stories about what they do and how a.
3:42:10
Sports event. Can bring families together like
3:42:15
nothing else. You know what that smells like
3:42:18
to? Me.
3:42:20
Happiness smiles. Loves.
3:42:22
And tears. And I hope you.
3:42:25
Will all get to figure it out. And I absolutely.
3:42:28
Love that and I am so grateful to be a part of the show and to
3:42:33
do it from here and experience the things that I've experienced
3:42:38
that I. I can't.
3:42:39
Send the fish in a video because I can't do it because I'm either
3:42:46
crying, shaking, or doing whatever because it means the
3:42:49
world to me. And boys, when I tell you I am
3:42:55
so thankful for all of you. I'm thankful for my father.
3:43:00
And I'm thankful for every single one.
3:43:02
Of you guys because you guys spend time, energy to get.
3:43:07
Us to where we are. And you know what my father
3:43:10
always told me? You are going.
3:43:14
To be the best in the city, you're going to be the best in
3:43:16
the state you're going to. Be the best in the country and
3:43:19
you're going to be the best in the world.
3:43:21
What do I do? And this show's going to do the
3:43:24
same thing. So enjoy the ride, boys.
3:43:28
Amen. All right.
3:43:29
Amen. Java.
3:43:30
Love that, Zach. Aaron, you want to give it a
3:43:33
shot? Yeah.
3:43:35
I, I I got one. Over the weekend, Eagles QB
3:43:40
Jalen Hurts got married to his wife.
3:43:42
Brianna Burroughs, I think in Napa Valley and I think it's
3:43:47
just amazing, you know, second ring.
3:43:48
He he, he won this year and it's going to be a short story, but
3:43:53
I'm smelling 1/3 ring next year. The Eagles are going to go
3:43:56
back-to-back and win Super Bowl. They're going to win it.
3:43:59
Yeah, let's go, Zach, open my mouth a little bit.
3:44:02
I'm sure they'll have no injuries all year.
3:44:05
I'm sure that. There's going to be no
3:44:07
regression to. The mean for Saquan?
3:44:11
You know whatsoever it's it's, it's going to be just all
3:44:14
sunshine and roses over there in Philly with no big Dom on the
3:44:17
sideline. I could see nothing going wrong
3:44:20
whatsoever. Absolutely the enforcement,
3:44:24
Aaron, you got anything? Not really, but.
3:44:28
Can it be something? That we've done.
3:44:29
Already or not? We'll.
3:44:31
We'll move on. It's all right, man, Speedy.
3:44:34
All right, so I'm going to go to another a sad story that.
3:44:37
Happened a couple years ago, five years ago about obviously
3:44:41
the tragic overdose with. Tyler Skaggs passing away in his
3:44:44
hotel room in 2019. And Eric K was the coach that
3:44:48
got arrested. He's serving a prison sentence
3:44:49
right now. And it was turned out to be Matt
3:44:51
Harvey. That's the legend.
3:44:53
Had some involvement in that and now there's another one that had
3:44:56
involvement. Long time MLB pitcher weed.
3:44:57
Miley is now connected with that case as well, saying he gave him
3:45:01
drugs when he was with the Diamondbacks.
3:45:03
So bang, I'm a Mets fan that I'm going to use my what's that
3:45:06
smell? Take shots at Matt Harvey again
3:45:07
because why not? So what does it smell like?
3:45:09
It smells like The Dark Knight Harvey too faced dense infected
3:45:14
side with the blood and guts of rats and raccoons.
3:45:18
Because that's all the Mets fans love to 2021.
3:45:24
OK, I like the Batman reference. I went with a Bane reference
3:45:28
earlier today. That's why I was.
3:45:29
I went to both Batman. I love the theme.
3:45:32
Hey, pretty strong and I'm going to finish this off for tonight.
3:45:36
I mean, how can I go? Any other?
3:45:38
Place than the. NBA Finals and the great NBA
3:45:41
Finals analyst Stephen A Smith, intently, intently watching the
3:45:47
NBA Finals. Put the clip up guys.
3:45:49
This is how close Stephen A is watching the files.
3:45:53
Oh, is that spider solitaire? Is that regular solitaire?
3:45:57
Maybe that's Freecell? Oh, is it one of those great
3:46:00
games? Steven?
3:46:01
Is the game so interesting to you that you are sitting there
3:46:05
on your phone not even playing a cool game?
3:46:08
Playing the game that was on your 1995 desktop.
3:46:13
Let's face it, that's what you're doing.
3:46:15
You never even learned how to play cool games.
3:46:18
You don't know how to play. Even the the less cool games,
3:46:21
the games that aren't cool. I bet you don't even know how to
3:46:23
play Candy Crush. You're playing.
3:46:25
You're sitting there playing solitaire.
3:46:27
You have a media seat. You're on TV talking about the
3:46:31
game. You're not watching the game.
3:46:33
I don't want to hear that you're paying attention to the game.
3:46:36
There is every single one of us on this screen and everyone
3:46:39
across the Internet would love to be in your shoes.
3:46:41
Getting paid five years, 100, $1,000,000 a year.
3:46:45
I have I've got the Regents for New York State that I'm I'm
3:46:50
covering to Proctor tomorrow. I can't have my phone in the
3:46:54
room because New York State thinks that I'm going to
3:46:58
possibly it might invalidate the tests as if I want to talk about
3:47:02
some English tests to anybody in the world, to anybody.
3:47:07
Yet it's OK for Stephen A making 20 million a year to sit there
3:47:11
playing Spider Solitaire. What?
3:47:14
Is that smell like smells like the biggest pile of bullshit on
3:47:17
the face of the earth coming from the butt of Stephen A
3:47:22
Smith? Guys, that is tonight's.
3:47:26
Show we made it. We got through the second ever
3:47:29
fish cast. The fish cast strikes back.
3:47:32
It is over on Thursday. We're going to have another
3:47:36
episode of the fish cast because Arrow is still there.
3:47:38
So that one will be the return of the Fish cast.
3:47:40
Yes, that'll be if you guys follow along with the Return of
3:47:43
the Jedi type of motto I'm going on with here.
3:47:46
If not, that's quite all right. We have Speedy.
3:47:49
Who do we have coming on on Thursday?
3:47:51
All right, so joining the show for the first time on the show
3:47:53
at 8:45 PM, He is the New York Yankees Daily News.
3:47:58
New York Yankees Daily News writer Gary Phillips will be
3:48:01
joining us on the show at 8:45. By the way, the Thunder won
3:48:05
tonight. Just now Jalen Williams with 40
3:48:07
points and one went away from the NBA title, now New York
3:48:10
Daily New York. Daily News He's been with the
3:48:13
athletic New Jersey monthly Sports Illustrated in the past
3:48:15
two, now with the New York Daily News for the New York.
3:48:17
Yankees And he said he's very excited to interact with you.
3:48:21
Java I don't even know who that is.
3:48:24
So he said he said he followed you as a kid, as a kid.
3:48:28
So he's definitely excited to be on there.
3:48:31
How does that feel? Why?
3:48:32
Why did you always? Say follow me as a kid when he
3:48:35
was a kid. I don't.
3:48:37
You were a kid. I mean, I was, I was a kid.
3:48:41
I was 21. Years old?
3:48:43
Like what? Like.
3:48:45
Are you trying to make? Me feel older now.
3:48:48
I don't know if it was intentional, I just feel like
3:48:50
anyone who's 30 or younger thinks that like late 30s and
3:48:54
older is like ancient. History.
3:48:56
Just absolute ancient history. Like we've were there at the
3:48:59
dawn of time. We were in school carving our
3:49:02
names into rock. You know what I mean?
3:49:05
Like it, It's, it's like real old.
3:49:08
I've had kids tell me they think I'm I mean, kids don't know how
3:49:11
old you are, you know, as a teacher, they think some of you,
3:49:13
it's the oldest, somebody 60. What are you 20?
3:49:16
Like there's no idea. These kids.
3:49:18
I'm not even, I'm not even 40 yet.
3:49:20
I know. And it's it's about to get busy
3:49:23
here too, because they just, they just called the CWS so
3:49:28
well. Guess what?
3:49:29
CWS still going on rest of this week we're going to have, you
3:49:33
know, more recaps of maybe. The Stanley Cup.
3:49:35
Final, we'll wrap up. Before our next show, maybe.
3:49:37
Same thing with the NBA Finals. We're going to have plenty to
3:49:39
talk about on Thursday, and we're going to talk about the
3:49:42
CWS. Don't fucking forget that fish.
3:49:45
Oh yeah, 100% live from Omaha, NE.
3:49:50
We'll be talking about the College World Series on Thursday
3:49:53
as well as all the big things going on.
3:49:55
We can't wait to see you there again.
3:49:56
Watch us on all the different streamings.
3:49:59
Download us on Apple Podcasts or, and or Spotify if you want
3:50:03
to see us in video. If you haven't seen us in video,
3:50:05
we do a lot of cool stuff on here.
3:50:06
Want to give a special shout out to Zach, Aaron and Jake, our
3:50:09
interns, you know, relatively new interns stepping up in
3:50:12
production roles tonight, stepping up on screen tonight.
3:50:15
What a great job by you guys. Really pretty flawless tonight
3:50:18
boys, really impressed. We're going to run it back again
3:50:21
on Thursday. For everyone else at home, I
3:50:24
hope you enjoyed the show. We'll see you again next time.
3:50:27
Goodnight. If it is the worldwide sports
3:50:30
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