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INTERVIEW: Montell Jordan Opens Up About Prostate Cancer Battle, His Journey From Music To Ministry + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 2: Want to sing the intro, that's highway the.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome brother.
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  Speaker 1: What's up young man? I'm great this morning. I feel good.
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  Speaker 1: I feel good. It's good to be here, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't mind me. Yeah, I'm fifty six. Something to look
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  Speaker 1: forward to.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, you talking about absolutely How does it feel to
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  Speaker 3: have one of the record that will never go away?
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  Speaker 3: It plays in pop culture and hip hop and urban
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  Speaker 3: and country and all types of things. Your record always
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  Speaker 3: get played. Do you know when you did that record,
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  Speaker 3: it was gonna that was that record?
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  Speaker 2: It was going to be that way.
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  Speaker 4: I knew we had something special. Like I go back
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  Speaker 4: to college days and I knew that even long before
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  Speaker 4: I was in the music business, Like I would go
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  Speaker 4: to the fraternity parties or whatever, and any DJ that
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  Speaker 4: was really doing this thing right around that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: last call for alcohol, that last hour of the club,
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  Speaker 4: that's when they would drop Slick Rick's Children's Story and
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  Speaker 4: that was just already like a timeless record. But I
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  Speaker 4: always said, even back then, if I ever get the
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  Speaker 4: chance of getting music business, I'm gonna sing.
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  Speaker 1: Over that record.
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  Speaker 4: So I did know that it was already a hit.
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  Speaker 4: But the journey of taking that hit and then turning
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  Speaker 4: it into a classic, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I could not have known that, but that was what
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  Speaker 1: the goal was.
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  Speaker 5: Correct, Correct me if I'm wrong, because I was thinking
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  Speaker 5: about it when they told me you was coming in.
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  Speaker 2: You were You were def Jam's first R and B star, right, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think they had Allison Well when you say R and
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  Speaker 4: B stars, so they had Allison Williams was there. They
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  Speaker 4: had Orange Juce Jones there, so they had some some
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  Speaker 4: R and B stuff. Yeah, I mean we were the first.
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  Speaker 4: Well not only were we the first I think successful
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  Speaker 4: R and B like, we were there their first number
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  Speaker 4: one record that def Jam had ever Yeah and.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah wow, the first amazing.
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  Speaker 5: But I did you know you think of depth Jay,
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  Speaker 5: you think of its being a rap heavy label around
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  Speaker 5: that time. You were even sampling one of their classic
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  Speaker 5: rap records.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and the cool thing though, even with that relationship
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  Speaker 4: of doing the Slick Crick the Children's Story kind of pairing.
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  Speaker 4: On my second album, me and Slickrick got together and
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  Speaker 4: we did a song called I Like That was on
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  Speaker 4: my second album, and we're friends to this to this day,
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  Speaker 4: him and his wife and me and my wife. We all,
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  Speaker 4: you know, do life together.
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  Speaker 3: But tell us how you wrote that record in the
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  Speaker 3: process of getting into the music industry, because you said
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  Speaker 3: you were in college and you go to parties. What
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  Speaker 3: made you say, you know what I want to do music?
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  Speaker 4: Well that the making of that record right there was
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  Speaker 4: literally like capturing atmosphere. So I would study guys like
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  Speaker 4: Marvin Gay and the song like got to give it Up.
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  Speaker 4: If you listen to that song, got to give it Up.
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  Speaker 4: Even before Marvin starts singing, you hear crowd, you hear atmosphere.
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  Speaker 4: You hear energy and all that is transformative in you know,
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  Speaker 4: into music, especially when music was more analog than digital.
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  Speaker 4: And so when you hear this is how we do
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  Speaker 4: it before the song ever comes on, you hear a party,
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  Speaker 4: because that's.
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  Speaker 1: What we did.
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  Speaker 4: I put people in the studio, put a microphone in there,
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  Speaker 4: games some drinks, and they were all standing around having
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  Speaker 4: a party and then you know, the engineers, we clicked
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  Speaker 4: play and we captured the energy of the room before
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  Speaker 4: the song ever ever kicked.
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  Speaker 6: In actually the actual studio like live in the studio, like.
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  Speaker 4: Live in the studio, they were just kind of we
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  Speaker 4: just captured everything. The flirtation, the conversation, everything that was
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  Speaker 4: happening is the undergirding of the track and the lyrics
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  Speaker 4: of this is how we do it. So people don't
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  Speaker 4: know it's more than hearing the record. They actually feel
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  Speaker 4: that record, which is why you know, we're talking thirty
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  Speaker 4: years almost thirty years later.
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  Speaker 5: A record like that is a gift in a curse though,
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  Speaker 5: right because you know, a record comes, it becomes such
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  Speaker 5: so big in life, kind of overshine shines the rest
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  Speaker 5: of your catalog.
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  Speaker 4: Right in a way, it was a It was a
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  Speaker 4: gift because it's around thirty years later. It was a
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  Speaker 4: curse because it was the first record, and because it
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  Speaker 4: was the first record, everybody always wants to put everything
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  Speaker 4: up against that record, you know, and that was a
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  Speaker 4: phenomenon record. And so even I've had records that have
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  Speaker 4: probably sold more or that have done extremely well, everybody
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  Speaker 4: always goes.
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  Speaker 1: Back to that as the first was that record, They're well,
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  Speaker 1: get it on tonight, They're good.
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  Speaker 4: I had some records that did really probably not sold more,
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  Speaker 4: but I mean as far as just some that has
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  Speaker 4: some legs. I got records that have some legs to
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  Speaker 4: them or whatever, but that record was so when Something
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  Speaker 4: for the Honeys came out, uh, that was a song
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  Speaker 4: that had some legs to it, but it could never
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  Speaker 4: reach number one because it was like ten months later.
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  Speaker 1: We're like, hey, this is the next single.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, no, we're still playing this is how we
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  Speaker 4: do it, and so station's, oh, but this is a
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  Speaker 4: pretty cool thing that a lot of people don't know.
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  Speaker 4: The reason why this is how we do it got
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  Speaker 4: to be so big was because, you know, in the song,
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  Speaker 4: I say, south Central does it like nobody does. I
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  Speaker 4: remember coming to New York City getting with all the
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  Speaker 4: Anti Martinez, Willie Williams all that I got to Hot
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  Speaker 4: ninety seven and those stations or whatever, they're like, we
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  Speaker 4: love you, we love depth CHANM, but we're not really
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  Speaker 4: kind of playing that record because you know the whole
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  Speaker 4: South Central thing. So I was like, okay, well let's
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  Speaker 4: let's try and fix that. So we went into the
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  Speaker 4: editing booth, and I re sang.
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  Speaker 1: This is how we do it. But I said, ooh,
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  Speaker 1: New York does it like nobody does?
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  Speaker 4: And why I normally do you know, because I was
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  Speaker 4: a rapper before I was singing, you know, I would
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  Speaker 4: do it like this is how we do it is
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  Speaker 4: Friday night, I feel all right, the parties with Angie Martinez.
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  Speaker 1: So I reached for the old school and I turned
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  Speaker 1: it up bunks.
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  Speaker 4: Some flo and so I started throwing names into the
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  Speaker 4: songs and change it to New York. And so when
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  Speaker 4: I did that, now New York they're playing that song
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  Speaker 4: every hour on the hour. And then DC here's in DC.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, yo, we heard you did that in New York.
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  Speaker 4: We want a DC version, we want a Philly version.
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  Speaker 4: And so I ended up singing the song probably a
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  Speaker 4: thousand times, just so that every station had their own
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  Speaker 4: customized version of it.
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  Speaker 1: So that is artist, don't put that kind of work
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  Speaker 1: in the.
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  Speaker 7: I was gonna say, you talked about you being a
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  Speaker 7: rapper a little bit to get into that part of it.
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  Speaker 7: Even in that song, you kind of have verses where
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  Speaker 7: you're it's like you're singing it, but it's it's like
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  Speaker 7: a like you're wrapping it like I reached, Like now
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  Speaker 7: I understand kind of where that comes from.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was Russell Simmons rap singer when I got
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  Speaker 4: signed to Depth jat. That was one of the reasons
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  Speaker 4: why I was documenting street life in Los Angeles and
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  Speaker 4: I was finding ways to to you know, the r
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  Speaker 4: Kelly's were out there, there were other artists out there.
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  Speaker 4: The guy was out there, and you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, I wanted to do the new Jack thing. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to.
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  Speaker 4: I was a fan of Aaron Hall. I was a
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  Speaker 4: fan of a lot of different things. But the only
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  Speaker 4: way I was able to carve my own space into
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  Speaker 4: who I would be musically was I had to take
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  Speaker 4: rap lyrics and then I would sing them. So if
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  Speaker 4: you were to look at this is how we do it,
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  Speaker 4: and you say I reached for my forty and I
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  Speaker 4: turn it up, designated driver, take the keys to my truck.
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  Speaker 1: Like lyrically that the Dutch that that's like rap prose.
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  Speaker 4: But that I would say designated driver, take the keys
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  Speaker 4: to my truck and say designated driver. I take the
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  Speaker 4: keys to my truck. And so I literally would write
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  Speaker 4: rap lyrics my entire first album. I wrote rap lyrics
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  Speaker 4: and then I figured out how to sing them.
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  Speaker 2: I just love the fact that you you know, having
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  Speaker 2: a designated driver back then.
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  Speaker 1: Yah, that's what I'm saying. I was very conscious, very.
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  Speaker 2: Responsible, and you went from R and B, you know,
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  Speaker 2: superstar to past.
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  Speaker 1: Like, what was the breaking point that made you step
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  Speaker 1: away from the industry. I was brought up in church.
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  Speaker 4: I was a church kid growing up, and so from
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  Speaker 4: that standpoint, it wasn't like, you know, I had this great,
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  Speaker 4: big epiphany and then you know, flew to the gospel.
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  Speaker 4: It was like, literally I was brought up a church kid.
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  Speaker 4: Mine and a lot of musicians and a lot of
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  Speaker 4: artists have that training ground. It's like a farm league
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  Speaker 4: almost for the music business where people are growing up,
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  Speaker 4: they're listening. It's the difference between uh, you know, between
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  Speaker 4: rhythm and blues and soul music. So is a little
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  Speaker 4: more attached to feeling as opposed to just sonic hearing,
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  Speaker 4: and so me going back into ministry wasn't like a oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'm ready to do this. It was more of a
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  Speaker 4: God move of saying, hey man, you've done it this
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  Speaker 4: way for so long, you know, why don't you try
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  Speaker 4: and do you know, try and do it my way
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  Speaker 4: and give me the opportunity to show you that what
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  Speaker 4: accolades and what verification and validation and I'm looking for
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  Speaker 4: in man and in people that God's like, I've already
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  Speaker 4: verified you, I've already validated you.
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  Speaker 1: And so, you know, so I don't have to work
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  Speaker 1: for God's grace. I'm working from his grace.
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  Speaker 4: And by me stepping away to do ministry, I found
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  Speaker 4: out who I was because, you know, in the music business,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know who I was outside of music. If
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  Speaker 4: I'm not I don't have an album, if I'm not
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  Speaker 4: on the charts, if people aren't playing them on the radio,
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  Speaker 4: then who I am I? And so God was like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, oh, I'm gracious enough to show you who
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  Speaker 4: you are if you never pick up a mic again.
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  Speaker 4: So it was during that time I found out, Man,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a son and I'm a father, I'm a friend,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a giver, I'm generous, I'm you know, I'm all
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  Speaker 4: these different things.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a teacher, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: A communicator, I'm a bunch of different that. If I
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  Speaker 4: never pick up a microphone again, I found out who
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  Speaker 4: I was, and I learned that, you know, music doesn't
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  Speaker 4: define me. I define music. And I was like a pivotal,
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  Speaker 4: you know, pivotal part for me to understand that music
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  Speaker 4: doesn't define who I am. I define who music is.
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  Speaker 4: And then that's when God says, Okay, now I can
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  Speaker 4: trust you with music again, because now you know who
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  Speaker 4: you are.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, what did you find
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  Speaker 2: in ministry that music couldn't give you?
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  Speaker 1: And I guess it was just a sense of self.
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  Speaker 4: What do I find in ministry the music couldn't give me?
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  Speaker 4: I think that with music, I was in an abusive relationship.
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  Speaker 4: I love something that couldn't love me back. And so literally,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I would say, man, I love music so much.
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  Speaker 4: I love music so much. I do it for free.
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  Speaker 4: I love music, and music never loved me back. Even
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  Speaker 4: when I was leaving music to go into ministry. Music
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  Speaker 4: wasn't like no, monself, don't leave, we want you.
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  Speaker 1: It was nothing.
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  Speaker 4: It was just like Biden, you know what I'm so
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, cool, whatever, And so I learned
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  Speaker 4: that God did love me and he did care about me,
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  Speaker 4: and he was there, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, in those spaces.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think what I got from God is
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  Speaker 4: I got someone and something that could love me back.
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  Speaker 4: And then now I understand that music is something that
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  Speaker 4: I can enjoy, I can appreciate, and I can create,
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  Speaker 4: but it doesn't create me.
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  Speaker 3: When you got into being a pastor, did you when
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  Speaker 3: you went b performing, did you feel like I had
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  Speaker 3: to take some lyrics out or had to change things
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  Speaker 3: up or anything at all.
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  Speaker 1: Or no, one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 4: I literally, you know, the story goes of, you know,
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  Speaker 4: when I left the music business, I literally I burnt
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  Speaker 4: the plow, meaning I'm like, I'm not coming back. I
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  Speaker 4: got all my instrumental tracks, I got rid of everything.
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  Speaker 4: I was full ministry for like four or five years.
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  Speaker 4: And during that time period, there was a promoter who
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  Speaker 4: kept calling my wife like every single year, several times
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  Speaker 4: a year. He would call it, Hey, I need Montel,
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  Speaker 4: I need Mantel, I need my Tell And we didn't
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  Speaker 4: even take dudes calls, like we are done with the
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  Speaker 4: music business. And then about four years and she finally,
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  Speaker 4: you know, takes my man's call. She's like, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 4: kind of frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what do you want?
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  Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I need Montel for his concert. I
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  Speaker 4: got Keith Sweat Silk, I got this whole big thing
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  Speaker 4: and we need Montel and she's like, you know, Montell's retired.
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  Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, yeah, I know, I'm following his career.
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  Speaker 4: She was like, you know he's a minister. Here is
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  Speaker 4: a pastor. Now He's like ya, yeah, yeah, I'm a
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  Speaker 4: Christian too, I know that. And so she's like, well,
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  Speaker 4: why do you keep calling in. He's like, cause my
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  Speaker 4: shows are really dark and I need some light.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. When he drops that, now we have.
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  Speaker 4: To circle back and we're like, okay, is there a
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  Speaker 4: way that Well first it was like, okay, well, God,
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  Speaker 4: you told me not to sing that song no more?
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  Speaker 4: And God said, no, you told you not to sing
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  Speaker 4: that song no more.
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  Speaker 1: I never told you that.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, oh my goodness, maybe it was me.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I had to get rid of my own idol.
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  Speaker 4: I had to sacrifice my own idol that I made it.
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  Speaker 4: But God never told me not to sing that song anymore.
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  Speaker 4: So I did have to say, Okay, what can I
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  Speaker 4: sing and what can't I sing anymore? Can I get
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  Speaker 4: people nostalgia without giving them something that compromises who I am?
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  Speaker 4: And that was the journey of going back and finding
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  Speaker 4: the songs that I could sing, changing some words, changing
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  Speaker 4: some lyrics because I'm a changed man, and then that
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  Speaker 4: became something that was acceptable and it's very welcomed actually
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  Speaker 4: out not only for the audiences, but even like the
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  Speaker 4: artists that I'm out on the road with.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like a pastor to the unpastored.
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of spaces because I'm speaking truth and
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  Speaker 4: I'm loving them and I'm out on the road with them.
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  Speaker 4: I understand what they've been through. I've been doing this
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  Speaker 4: for thirty years, you know what I'm saying, And so
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  Speaker 4: I think that was part of the journey of Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm able to change lyrics. I'm able to customize something
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  Speaker 4: quick story like when it comes to Let's Ride, I
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  Speaker 4: do that. That was, you know, a pretty nasty song, Masterpiece,
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  Speaker 4: Silk the Shocker, Strip Club Anthem, big big number one record,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and I'll do that song, but I don't
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  Speaker 4: really sing that song. I'll sing the first verse of
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  Speaker 4: that song. I literally do about forty five seconds to
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  Speaker 4: a minute of the song to instill nostalgia in people.
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  Speaker 4: And then with master Piece, go I get to that
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  Speaker 4: part of the song, like you know, write in the
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  Speaker 4: verse and I go, oh, do that song a nomore
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  Speaker 4: because it's nasty and the crowd laughs or whatever. And
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  Speaker 4: now I'll tell them, yo, I told you I'm a
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  Speaker 4: pastor no more, you know. But but but but I
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  Speaker 4: can do this song. And then I just kind of shift.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm giving them the song and just that much
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  Speaker 4: makes them feel like they've heard the entire song. And
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  Speaker 4: then you know, I keep it moving. I love that.
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  Speaker 6: So so it was so did you feel guilty?
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  Speaker 2: You felt guilty before.
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  Speaker 6: You know, performing those songs, after you stepped away and
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  Speaker 6: did ministry and they wanted you back when that promoter
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  Speaker 6: called your wife. It was the fact that you would
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  Speaker 6: feel guilty when you did the songs. Before I got
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  Speaker 6: closer to God, I never.
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  Speaker 1: Felt guilty, which is which is wild. I felt.
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  Speaker 4: I maybe felt conflicted, but guilt, guilt is, I think
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  Speaker 4: is a strong word. I felt like, I know I
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  Speaker 4: love the Lord. I know I'm in you know, this
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  Speaker 4: is before ministry. I know I love the Lord. I
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  Speaker 4: know God's got me. I know He's given me a
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  Speaker 4: lot of ideas and I took a lot of those
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  Speaker 4: ideas and I made him more customizable for different audiences
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  Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Uh, you know. And and from
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  Speaker 4: that standpoint, I had to be two Montelles, if you will,
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  Speaker 4: and it probably was three or four. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: call it spiritual schizophrena. It was like, literally, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: not making fun of any diagnosis. I'm saying that I
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: had to be different montell for different audiences. When I'm
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: home with my wife, that's one Montell. When I'm at
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: my church, that's a different Montel. When I'm with my
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: mom's that's a different Montelle. And so because of that,
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: I was trying to keep up with a bunch of
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: different persons now and so, yeah, I think I could
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: feel guilty from the standpoint of not being authentically who
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: I am, and ministry allowed me to step into a
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: space that is like, it doesn't matter if I am
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: on the breakfast club, it don't matter if I'm in church,
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: it don't matter if I'm with you know, in any setting,
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be the same Montel, authentically me all
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: And that's liberating.
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: So how do you reconcile to Monte Jordan who singing
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: about streaky stuff on the weekends with the Monte Jordan
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: who preachers on Sunday mornings.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that dude had to die.
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: That guy had to die and I'm okay with that
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: because now who I am, it doesn't mean I can't
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: look back and show the world who I was. Even
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: in my shows. I do a ministry. I do ministry
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: during my shows. Anybody that goes to a Monto show,
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: I don't care people drinking, getting doing whatever they do
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: with the show. Whatever I am literally almost like comedically
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: weaving a story into I'm just going on and sing songs.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: I'm communicating with the audience. We laugh and telling jokes,
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: and I'm talking to him, and I get to a
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: point in the show where I actually tell him, Hey,
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: you know, y'all know I'm a pastor.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Some of you don't know. And I let him know.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: I said, hey, music is part of the soundtrack to
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: our lives. If you've got a good memory in your life,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: there's probably a song attached to it. If you've got
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: a tragic moment in your life, there's probably some music
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: attached to it. And I said, what I'm doing is
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: I'm giving you nostalgia. But I'm also here to show
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: you what it looks like when God gets a hold
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: of a man's heart and then changes them and puts
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: them back in front of people with great influence and
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: people that know that there's something different about him, but
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: they don't quite know what it is. And I says,
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: Jesus that changed my life and transformed me and made
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: me a different person. And so in that audience, I'll
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: tell them.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: So.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I know some of y'all don't do the God thing.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: I know some of y'all don't do the church thing,
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: but I'm here to tell you that God loves you,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: and God misses you, and God is not angry at you.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: And even if you wouldn't come to a church, he
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: sent the nineties R and B artist to you wherever
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: you are to let you know that your life is
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: that valuable to him. And so I literally get the
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: minister in every space that I go to, and people
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: will get an encounter with God not even expecting. You know,
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: I just came to hear you know, color me bad
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: saying I want to sex you up, and Mantell's in
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: there talking about Jesus. Wow, how did that happen?
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: You know, it's unassuming, and you never know how many
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: people will actually go to him. Correct I will follow
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: that at work, because that's what he wants.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Acknowledge me.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Every now and then just I get a God kiss
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: where somebody will pop in the DM and they'll be like, yo,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: you were talking to me last night, and man, God,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: you know, pray for me and for my daughter or
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: this antity other. So you know, I'm I'm I'm pastoring,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: but I'm just outside the four walls of the church.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: I just I'm on the expansion program as an artist.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Being tall.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: Hindry you But I remember I promised to Teddy Rolly
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: to me a long time ago, Teddy Rolly said there's
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: no such thing as a tall superstar in industry.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: To think about it.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, now I think it's uh, you know the six
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: eighties stood has allowed me to to stand out, you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: head and shoulders above. I think in Guinness, I was like,
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: in the Guinness Book of World because at what time
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: for the tallest R and B sing or tallest with
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: the number one record?
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: I can't see nobody taller.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Told me that years ago.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: He was like, yo, you guys, he's like nouch thing
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: as a tall superstar. I'm like, snoop Jesus, like those
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: are exceptions to the rules.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: A long time Yeah, yeah, tall, you know, other than
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: shopping off the rack, you know, height height has been
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: in that, you know, advantaged for me.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: And you've been married for how long? Thirty two years?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Graduations?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Congratulations the same moment.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: So I'm twenty four, what you I build my wife
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: for twenty seven, we've been married for eleven twenty four.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So long with that you were young kids. He's like, man,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: it was kids for like ten or fifteen.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Kids?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: You know now even no God wanted that.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: But but what what was the secret sauce to keeping
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: that bond alive, especially in the industry that each relationships.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think recognizing that that marriage wasn't something
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: that humans created. I think marriage is something that God
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: created meant it's meant to be a covenant. And a
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: lot of people go in to marriage with an exit
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: strategy as opposed to having an eternal strategy. They go
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: in thinking, well, if this doesn't work, then i'll and
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: that automatically is to set up for the enemy to
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: be able to know what you're then I'll I'll do
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: this or I'll do that. That's the strategy that the
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: enemy will use to take out your marriage. And so
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: we know that we are going to be married to
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: each other forever. We're gonna make it the best forever possible.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: We're gonna be happy. We got family legacy on the
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: line here. And by doing that, I recognize that our
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: marriage ain't just for us. Our marriage is for other
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: people to be able to see and be like, man,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: if they can do it, they can do thirty something
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: years and still be grabbing each other's butts in the
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: elevator and still you know, excited about each other. Whatever,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: it can be done. A lot of people don't want
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: to get married or or they're kind of shy away
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: from it simply because they don't recognize or see enough
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: that it can be done. And so that's what we're doing.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: We want to be an example, uh to we help
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: a public marriage is hell in private. So a lot
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: of couples when they go into you know, some challenges
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: or this or that. We have a spot called the
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Jordan River down in Atlanta, UH and we take we
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: provide marriage and family therapy, but licensed marriage and family.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Therapists, private chefs, all of that.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: They get a chance to come in and uh, you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: they can go to montel and Kristen dot com or
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: or go to Marriage Masterpiece dot com p E a
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: c E. UH If people need help with their marriages.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: But uh, you know that's that's something that we do
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: to keep us. It keeps us tight together because we
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: recognize other couples needed God bless.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, how was that mixing like with the pros and
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: cons of mixing the marriage with the business, that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Was hell.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Became a path, you know, it was.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: You know, it was one of those things where you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: the label had come in and in order to to
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: help be successful, they were like, well, montell if nobody's
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: gonna want an unavailable, married R and B artist, you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: you gotta understand. You know we're talking ninety five, ninety four,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: ninety five. You know, if you're not available, they're not
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: gonna want you. And I would always heard that if
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: you want to be successful in the music business, guys
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: have to want to be be you and women have
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: to want to be with you. If you can do
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: those things and you could be successful. And so I
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: had to keep the persona that I was this single
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: available R and B artist and for her being in
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: depth chairman and then you know one sixty varick those
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: days being in that building was a that was a
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: tough building to be in. And she's a woman manager
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: or whatever, and it was like, well, if you are
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: the wife, then people are not gonna respect you. So
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: as opposed to being Kristin Jordan, she was Kristin Hudson
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: and she was the manager. And being the manager is
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: tough because it's kind of like is the manager telling
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: the artists what to do? Or is the artist telling
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: the manager? What?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: What do we do?
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: And then when we're not artist and manager and then
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: we go home because remember there's different Montelles at that time.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: There's Montela artist and then there's Montela husband, and Montola
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: artist takes president you know, takes presence over Montela husband
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: when we get home, like then what does that look like?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: How do we submit to each other? How do we
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: And so it was that was it was very, very tough,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: and so at some point something else had to die,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: and in that my artistry and her manage managerial capacity,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: all those things had to die in order for our
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: marriage to live. Because whatever you feed grows, right, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: so if we're feeding the industry side of us, that
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: thing was was crazy. She was managing doing fantastic, I'm
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: doing my artist thing, and we hemorrhage in at home.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: We're bleeding out, you know, and so we had to
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: figure out what we wanted to live and what we wanted.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: To, you know, to sacrifice.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Now, one thing that I think makes me nervous and
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: don't make Churelomain nervous, you would diagnose with prostate cancer. Yeah,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: that's something that I think we started. And this was
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: a great thing. We started early, checking everything. I mean,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: we didn't went to damn near every skin you could
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: possibly imagine, because I have six hes four we want
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: to make sure we did as long as possible.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: He would get his probably check like every week just
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: for fun with the same where I work at.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: But were you sick?
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Was it just a test or how did you how
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: did you find out?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Never sick, never sick, never felt sick. Literally about when
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I was in my early forties is when I started
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: going to get to get checked. And uh, you know
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: the whole taboo thing about the rectal check, you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: the finger check and then the blood check. Even when
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: I was diagnosed, it wasn't rectal check that found anything.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: It was really in my blood from the ten years
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: of getting blood checks, you know, I could see ten
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: years ago it's like my PSA was like three point one.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: It was three point three and three point nine, four
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: point two, four point five, four point six, five point one,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: and then it was kind of like oh, okay, and
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: then we go from five point one to six point
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: one was like oh and then So it was the
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: journey of looking at my blood at that PSA levels
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: because I had a history because of early detection. Because
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: of that, it allowed me to when I did get diagnosed,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: it allowed me to have options because they caught it early,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: and prostate cancer is ninety nine percent treatable when caught early.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: They have almost one hundred percent success rate of treating
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: it if it's caught early enough. But a lot of men,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: particularly disproportionately Black men, do not go and they do
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: not get checked, and because of that, they normally are
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: finding out too late in the process. What made you
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: decide to share it publicly instead of keeping it private
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: as a god thing that's one hundred percent of God there,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: because it is very private, very personal, And I think
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: part of it was what they call a holy discontent,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: that thing that just makes it something difficult, you can't.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Sleep at night.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: It was like I watched when chat with Bozman, It
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: wasn't I don't think prostate cancer. But when chat with
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Boseman passed.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Away, I was like, what is that?
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Like? How do you do all the movies? How do
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: you do all those things? And nobody know? Like, nobody
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: can tell me nothing you know about that? And then
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: when I got diagnosed, I didn't have a template. I
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: didn't have anybody that I could look at that was
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: telling you know, that was telling the story to be
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: able to say, Okay, when you get diagnosed, do this,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: or even though it's not cancer, not the same for everybody,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: but when this happens, here are the steps you know
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: that you can take. I couldn't. I couldn't find nobody.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: And so even right after we got diagnosed, my wife
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: and I felt like we had the Lord said to us,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: film it, tell everything, film it, And so we started
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: filming this documentary that eventually be called Sustained. I'll tell
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: you more about that in the moment. But this movie,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: this film, in this documentary is literally us telling this
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: entire story from diagnosis all the way up through how
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: we vetted doctors, how we vet vetted treatments, what we
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: chose to do, how I chose to have a radical
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: protecting me surgery and have my prostate removed November fifth
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: of twenty twenty four, election day, and from that process,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: the journey afterwards, how I got clear margins, and how
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: that journey is and what it is today with a
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: ric currents or remergence of cancer, which is I would
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: love to be here telling the story about, Yeah, I
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: got prostate cancer, I beat it.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I'm on the other side of it. I'm actually right
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: not in the mud, you know what I'm saying of
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: this thing right now. And I know I'm good.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I know God's got me. I know my wife's got me,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: my family, my children, my grandchildren, like I know that
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: I am good. I got great organizations like zero zero
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Prostate Cancer who I've come along with. They're trying to
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: help one hundred thousand men be saved from this prostate
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: cancer and in that journey. And I do want to
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: say this because they're part of you know the reason
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: why I'm here to talk about all this, But people
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: that need to get screened. I'm want to encourage the wives,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: the mothers, the sisters, the aunts, the daughters out there,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: the men in your life need to be checked. They
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: need to be screened. It not a it's not a game.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: It's not something you wanna, you wanna, you want to
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: play around with. And I know they can go uh
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: to zero cancer dot org slash September because this is
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: officially Prostate cancer Awareness Month.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I hope I got that, uh that information right.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: But in my diagnosis and in the journey that I'm
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: in right now, and to think of it, I don't
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: want to tell. But if I don't tell, I don't
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: know who else is gonna say it. I've watched and
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: I watched Dwayne Wiggins from Tony Tony tom at bladder
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: cancer and he died.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know what his story is. I don't know
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: if he got diagnosed. I don't know if he got treated.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know anything about that. The world heard, oh,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Rennie Moss has liver cancer, uh, and it was like
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: somebody leaked it and then he had it or he's
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: fine from it now. And then they had a week
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: in the NFL where they wore Moss cancer jerseys. But
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know how he told his wife. I don't
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: know what what his kids navigated through.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know anything when it comes to d Wade
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: you know, with kidney cancer. I think he's got sixty
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: percent of his kidney. I don't know what him and
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Gabrielle went through. I don't know how he told his
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: kids or his family. Like, there's not enough data for
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: me to make the right type of decisions in the
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: thought processes that go behind any cancer, and in particular
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: prostate cancer, which is treatable, there's not a template there.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: So I'm the template. Now, I'm the template. So I'm
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: partnering with zero and I'm telling the I'm snitching. I'm
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: telling everything that I can. You know about this, about
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: this process from diagnosis to when I'm crying and snotting,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: and when I'm shaking my fist at God and when
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I'm thanking God for life, all of these bits and pieces. Man,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I'm capturing it all. And this is the crazy thing though.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Last year, from diagnosis up to surgery, I'm out on
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: the road. I'm singing, I'm performing. I'm doing all these shows,
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: all these concerts, and all the money that I'm earning
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: to do this, I'm gathering it so I can tell
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: a story about cancer. I got cancer, and I'm working
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: to tell a story about how I'm going to defeat cancer.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: And so now even on the other side thinking now
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I'm about to do this documentary, Sustain you go to
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: sustain themovie dot com and help partner with us to
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: help take some of this load off of me because
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: me and my wife we've been carrying this thing for
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: a year and a half.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Now you know, it's been completely you know, on us.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: And now I'm still you know, I've got film, I
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: got people with me because now it's that this reemergence
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: of whatever is back.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I got to continue this story. Thank you for sharing
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: your story.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: First, thank you so much because there's so many brothers.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, cut, there's so many brothers that have so
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: many questions and a lot of times we don't have
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: anybody to talk to, right, there is nobody. We say
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: this all the time. You never go to the barber
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: shop and you be like, hey, what's your prostate? Like
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Right, you don't talk about things.
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  Speaker 2: Like that, you know what I mean. But we don't
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: have those conversations about health.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: To the fact, dude, though we don't say what's your proty?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: No, we don't know.
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  Speaker 4: We don't do that.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: We're doing the radio, but in the barbershop. That wasn't
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: a common conversation. We have conversations about We have a conversations.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I've done more funerals the past years than weddings, God damn.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: And not just funerals of people that people don't know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: like known people like I was there for Bismarque, I
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: was a bis Marquis feuderal. I was there for DJ
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: mister see you eulogized DJ mister Selwan Hall, like I
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: was there the night that Fat Man's school.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: I was in the hospital up in Connecticut, Like somehow
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I'm around this and these ain't like seventy eighty ninety year.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Old men, these dudes in theties, early sixties. And so
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: there's a problem with that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Not just in the hip hop and the urban there's
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: a problem in the community, especially in the African American community,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: black community, where which is twice likely you know what
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: I'm saying for people to not survive from this because
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: of the not getting checked and because not having conversations
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: How do they come back If you got your proce
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: they removed though had it removed.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Normally, when you have your prostate removed, your PSA levels
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: was supposed to go to zero. My PSA level did
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: not go to zero. It went to like one point something,
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: and it was kind of like, well, sometimes it takes
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: a couple of weeks for it to go down, and
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: so it did go down after a couple of weeks
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: or one point nine, one point seven, a couple months
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: one point five. I'm thinking that's cool or whatever, but
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: actually that's not what the case is. It just is
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: a situation where even though the prostate was removed and
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: everything seemed like it was isolated and confined in the prostate,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: there were some bad actors that had probably you know,
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: like I said, when I got diagnosed, it was early
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: first stage gleas and six prostate cancer. When they pulled
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: it out and they biaps it, it was like, oh,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: it's like stage two aggressive state cancer. And so, you
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, them little dudes, I got they fighters,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: and so they apparently, you know what I'm saying, wanted
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: to try and.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Hide out or whatever.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: But because I still get screenings and I still go
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: through my regular checkups or whatever, I was able to detect, hey,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: there's something in your lymp nodes and something kind of
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: in the prostate bed, those things will need to be there.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: You need to go for some more treat.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: To go, guys.
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: So if you have to go spec Yeah, I saw
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: that you are going to begin radiation.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: Or would you be documenting that process too and talking
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: people through that, because that's also fear two. Once people
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: are diagnosed 're scared of the treatment.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: I don't want to, but I feel like I have to.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: So I'll be going through proton therapy in Atlanta. It's
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: seven and a half weeks, thirty seven treatments, which is
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: like five days a week, an hour a day going
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: in and getting a very targeted form of radiation on
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: my limp nose and in my prostate bed. And I'm
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: not radioactive, but nothing afterwards. It's all that radiation is
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: taking place when the machine is on. And don't want
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: to do it, but that's that's how I get cancer.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: I am a cancer survivor, but I didn't know there
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: was such thing as a two time cancer survivor. So
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: now it's like, you know what I'm saying, this is
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: the second bout and I want it to be the
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: last one.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: Too quick, all right, real quick, because I haven't asked
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: anything about this yet. Okay, So to Envy's point, no,
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: guys don't usually talk about it, right, Like my dad
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: he is like he knows something is wrong, but he
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: don't know how to relate it to his kids. Okay,
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: So like, how do you, like, how did you tell
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: your wife? How do you tell your other family members?
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: That's thank you for ask asking that question. Hearing it
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: for the first time for myself, you know, just me
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: and the doctor. That was hard enough because I'm trying
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: to figure out how how do I tell myself first
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: of all. Then from there there's also this thing that
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: you realize, Okay, I've got this. You know, cancer doesn't
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: have me, but I've got cancer. Now in this process
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: when I start to share it, do I give cancer
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: to other people?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Meaning?
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Do they now carry the weight of what I'm caring?
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: So in telling my wife, I became freer because I
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: now got somebody to take this journey with me, and
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: a lot of people don't have that. But I gotta,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, I got a g riding
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: beside me to help me do that. But then even
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: though after I told her, it took us about five
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: months that it was just us not knowing who to tell,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: who to share it with, because we didn't want them
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: to have to carry the weight of that as well.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: And so eventually we told my son, my oldest son,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: and then my oldest son was like, Yo, you gotta
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: tell my brother's and sister. You got you gotta tell everybody.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: I told everybody. I had a twelve year daughter at
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: the time. She's the last one. You know what I'm saying,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: How do I tell her?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Which is a put that weight on it? She has
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: school old you know, how do you tell her.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Who also lost her grandfather to cancer the year before
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: a different form of cancer cancer, And so now how
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: do I make cancer palatable for a twelve year old?
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: I don't got a rule book for that, there's no template.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: So I become the template. And it's another story for
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: another to help you'all. Have me come back so I
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: can tell you how I told my twelve year old
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: because it's hilarious. But in that process of telling them
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: and then letting more people know and more people know
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: that we're just in our insulated circle of influence.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Those are the people that were going to be our
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: tribe to help us.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Because everybody don't need to know, because everybody ain't praying
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: for your health, and everybody don't want to see you win.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Everybody don't want to see you healthy. I know it's
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: going to be tons of people that are ah this
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: or that, and you know, but I can silence all
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: that noise because I knew who I am. And in
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: this process, I'm telling my story because it's important for
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: you and for your dad. Yes, I'm telling me, and
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what your dad is going through,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: but it's important that your dad knows that montell the
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: artist of millions selling this or that the other it's saying.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: It's saying, please go and get yourself or share, or
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: just tell your key or tell tell them, tell them
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: because they're stronger than you think, right, And it would
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: be worse for you not to know and then be wondering, oh,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: what happened? Oh you know they kept this to themselves.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: It would be selfish, and I understand the reason why.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: But like I said, this is kind of where I
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: am now, and and I had to ask permission for
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: my kids, uh to be able to go and publicly
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: start sharing this story in the mud in the middle
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: of the story, simply because it's personal to them, like, yo,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: you know, Dad, we appreciate that you sharing this with
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: the whole world. You could save other people's lives and
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: get men checked and.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: This or that the other.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: But you're our dad, you know, you're our dad, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: we want to we want to keep this, you know, personal.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: But they understand. They've allowed me to share my music,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: They've allowed me to share ministry, and now they allow
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: me to share my medical journey with the world. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't have done it without their their coson
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: to be able to say, yeah, Dad, you know, you
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: say people's lives through music, You saved people's souls through ministry,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: and now you can you can do this too.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: My last question, I know you got to go. You
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: talk about God's plan in your life.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: How was your faith specifically guiding you during this, you know,
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: stage of your life, the treatment, recovery to rediagnosis everything.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I'm unshakable. I'm unshakable. I recognize that I know where
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: my soul rest in this. I know that this earthly
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: journey is one that my story is not done being told.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: So from that standpoint, all I can do is look
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: and be grateful of how good God has been to
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: my life and and listen, it ain't just words, like
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: you should be able to feel being in my presence
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: the same way I'm with y'all.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: You can feel that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: I know without shadow it out, how good God is
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: to me and to some of y'all in the journeys
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: that you've been through, that that He's kept you. And
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: so that's the that's the foundational piece that has me
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: rooted and grounded that I already know. I know God's
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: gonna heal me, and I know he could do a
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: supernatural I know he can do it through doctors, through medicines,
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: he can do it through treatments. He can do it
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: however you want to do it. If it was up
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: to me, I'd be like, God, you know I'm one
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: of your favorites, you know, just you know, just get
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: it over with so I can just be able to
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: tell the whole world. Yo, Jesus healed me supernaturally, and
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: that's not the story that he gave me. He said,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do it that way. I was like, well, Lord,
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: let me just get through it and come on the
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: other side so I can be able to say, Hey,
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: I had it, I did this, and God brought me
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: through through doctors and technology, and now I'm on the
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: other side of it. And I would have loved that testimony,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: and God said, no, you're not going to get it
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: that way either. And so in this journey that I'm
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: on right now, I'm great. I'm really really grateful to
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: be with you all today. It's like, because I'm not
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: on the other side of it, I'm right in the
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: mix of it. And I want people to see that
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: God ain't just on the other side of it. He's
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: right with me in the mix of it. So while
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I'm in the midst of it, God is with me,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: and he's not waiting for me on the other side
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: to come through like he's with me.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: In the midst of it. And so from that standpoint,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: that's where I can walk with an authority. I can
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: walk with boldness.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: I can walk in the place with my family, I
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: can walk with zero with zero prostate cancer, and I
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: can tell the story because they're giving me a platform,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, to be able to share
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: in these spaces where my R and B or pastoral
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: voice may not have the reach that it could have.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Partnerships and things like that allow us to be able
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: to save some lives. This ain't there's no money grab here.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: This is literally I'm trying to grab your pops. I'm
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: trying to get your dad. I'm trying to get your uncles.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to get your brothers. I'm trying to get
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: your husband's I'm trying to tell them if you thought
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Montel Jordan was cool, or you liked his music, or
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: you you thought he might have had, you know, brought something.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: To the game.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Now I'm bringing this to the game, and I'm saying
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: it's important for you to not leave a legacy of
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: your family of secrets and of death and of misinformation
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: and of neglect. Don't neglect your family, don't neglect your body.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Find out what's going on. And you know, because people said,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I just rather not know. No, No, that's that's that's
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: incredibly ignorant to not want to know what's going on
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: in your body, especially when it comes to prostate cancer,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: because and I keep saying this, man, it's treatable when caught.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Early, So why not catch it early before it catches you?
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: You like you just got another ministry brother music and
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: appreciating Now you know you're going through all of this
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: just to have another ministry.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Well, I didn't want this one. But that's why God
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: can trust me with it, though, and trust me with this.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: I don't want this. I don't want to tell the story.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: I do not want to be the one to tell
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: this story. And that's why God says, Great. So I
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: know that, you know, you'll do whatever you have to say,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: and do you do what you have to do. You'll
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: say what you have to say because I know it's
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: not something that that I want the accolades for. It's
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: a lot to come along with prostate cancer, you know
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, That journey or whatever and the stigmas
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: and the stuff that comes along with that. It's very personal.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: But from that standpoint, you know, I got a lot
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: to share, a lot to talk about. A lot of
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: it will be in that documentary. Like I said, I
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: can't you know, I'm I'm the shameless plug. I need
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: help stainthmovie dot com. That's a space where people can
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: partner and be a part of coming to help us
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: get this documentity told and get your names on the credits,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: on the screen and all that type of stuff. I
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: got to get the story told and I'm either gonna
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: tell it because people are helping sustain themovie dotmovie dot
• 40:17
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• 40:20
  Speaker 3: But we need to close out with a prayer of them.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, absolutely all right. God, thank you, Thank you
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: for your sons and your daughters. I think you that
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: you have given them this space and this voice to
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: be able to speak to this generation.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: God.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: I pray over their lives. I pray with their health.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: I pray over their strength. I pray over their families.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: I pray over their marriages. I pray over the future marriages.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: I pray over their children and their grandchildren. God, I
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: pray that what they speak, even as they entertain, Father,
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: that at the heart of what they do, that somehow
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: somebody would hear what they say and it always points
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: back to you, Father, no matter what they are navigating
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: through personally, I pray that you would be there with them.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Let them know you're not on the other side waiting
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: for them. That if they've received you as Lord, and
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: that you are there with them in the trenches in
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: the good days, you're with them. In the bad days,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: you're with them. And I thank you for the breakfast Club.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: I thank you for this space, and I thank you
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: for this platform. I thank you for my life, and
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: for my wife, and for my children and my grandchildren.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: I thank you for everybody under the sound of my
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: voice that you know you've heard Monsel, but you weren't
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: here in Montell you were hearing the Lord speak to
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: you today. To be able to say, your life matters,
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: your soul matters, and more than your soul mattering in heaven,
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: which is extremely important, your life here on earth matters.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: And so do something to make sure you're preserving your
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: life here in this earth so that the beautiful things
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: that we get to listen to and experience. God, you
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: are the one that allowed that to happen, and we
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: just thank you for this opportunity. We praise you in
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Jesus name.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Amen, Amen Montel Jordan. Ladies and gentlemen, that's the breakfast club.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Good morning. Thank you so much.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: Every day a wait clicks up the breakfast Club, you
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: don't finish for y'all done.