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TWR Wednesday | A Dark Day For America RIP Charlie Kirk · The Whitfield Report

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Well, good evening everyone and well, I don't really know how.
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It's an evening. Yep.
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It's an evening, honestly. I guess do we?
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Do we? We need to explain what we're
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talking about for posterity, I think so.
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Whoever's watching live now obviously is very likely aware
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that Charlie Kirk was murdered today in cold blood and in front
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of thousands of witnesses. And the video is spread all over
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social media. Please, if you're sensitive to
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that kind of thing, I would recommend staying away from
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social media. I had the misfortune of watching
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and it's not something I would like to see again.
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And if you're. That video is brutal.
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Don't want to see it? Yeah, same here, unfortunately.
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And it's not just any person in the news, Sam.
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It's Charlie Kirk, a person we've talked about at length on
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the show, a person you've had encounters with, a person many,
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many of our friends loved. As a new a new a new a new
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personally yeah, too. I, I, I actually, I, I'm getting
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so many texts and direct messages as we speak.
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Honestly, like part of me was tempted to, you know, not do the
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show, but, you know, out of. We definitely had that
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conversation and I said if you didn't feel up to it, you
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shouldn't and you said you had some stuff to say.
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Yeah, I mean, look, I watch people know that I'm a writer
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and that's true, but I'm also a speaker.
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And honestly, as I said on Monday's show, which, you know,
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I, I did a solo show, you know, podcasting has always been
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somewhat therapeutic for me just to, you know, vents sometimes
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too. So that's.
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Could all use a little therapy tonight.
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That's what that's why we're here.
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We're going to have a couple people, you know, join us on
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stream and I, we, I honestly don't know what tonight's
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evening is going to be. We really have no plan.
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But I do want to speak just kind of off the top of my head.
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That's the best thing is you should say a few words to to
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begin us out because you had a long history well with TPUSA and
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with the Charlie and all that. And yeah, just love to hear your
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thoughts, Sam. It's your show.
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Well, I, I I only met Charlie once via like a Skype call or
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something back in 2013. I was still in high school at
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the time and or getting ready to graduate and someone I can't
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remember who was messed me and told me about Turning Point and.
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Which which you guys are very similar age, so this would have
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been the earliest incarnation and he would have been in his
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early 20s at at latest. Yeah, I think he was like, I was
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18. So I think he was like 20 at the
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time. So you know this is.
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A long history. And he called me or no, we, we
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talked on like a Skype call and basically he kind of gave me the
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pitch, you know, about turning Point and asked me to join.
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And I, I did contribute like one or two articles in the very
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early days, just as like a columnist.
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But ultimately, you know, I, I, I took a gap year between high
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school and college and moved to Florida and, and then when I
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started school, suffice to say, I just never had had the time to
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really. Well let's let's be real Sam,
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you know as a disabled guy doing college full time, you time
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would have been very limited to in addition add in another
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extracurricular. Yeah, and and so you know it, it
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wasn't that I was interested, I just never had the time.
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But like I. Circled not only were a part of
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it, but like actually joined TPUSA.
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That's why I say there's so many connections in our circle.
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My first of all, a lot of people are talking about his widow and
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the and the and his two small children and my God, does my
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heart go out to them. But I want to tell talk for a
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moment, you guys got to understand all the people at
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TPUSA who have been there with him for the last 15 years at
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least, you know, who looked at him like an older brother or
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father figure or pastor. And he, he guided young men's
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hearts, minds and souls into adulthood for a very long time
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and touched so many lives. The impact of his loss is
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immeasurable. Truly.
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And you know, I have, I have friends who, you know, some of
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them have stayed with TPUSAI have other close friends who
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left TPUSA&AT. And we're actually, you know,
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unfortunately they went to the left, but even some of them
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reached out to me today and they're there in mourning and,
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you know, just a lot of. Well, because it still touched
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them for a time. And do they understand he was a
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person, a real person? Yeah.
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And so. I think this demonization we see
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all the time gives people the ability to turn off that.
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That's a human being. But we can't do that.
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That's. Yeah, you know the yeah, you
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know, the other thing that's that's really hard is just the
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fact that he and I, he and I were, you know, so close in the
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same, you know, age. Like I'm not, I'm not old by
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any, you know, stretch of the imagination, like even I.
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And this is something that, you know, not like I, I, you know,
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as much, I hate to say it, but like, you know, my, my mother
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has always, you know, part of her is very proud of what I've
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done, but part of her has always been very nervous because she
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knows how, you know, insane the left is.
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And, you know, and so you know, what if this were, you know, me,
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I, I try and be, you know, very, you know, safe.
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But you know, and I'm a, I'm a nobody, but you know, in, in the
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scheme of things, but I mean just.
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And the answer is it shouldn't be this way.
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That's the answer. No, it's shown it and it it's
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just fuck, I just a lot of you know, emotions.
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You know, I I was I was excited, Max, because I had I had news to
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share about a new book that I am really think like I I had I had
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good. Yeah, I actually had like, you
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know, funny new news and you know what not.
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And instead this shit happens. Let's keep it in the chamber.
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We're coming back to comedy next week one way or another.
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Because we don't fucking run. And it's like you said, like
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you're right. There is a level of like, but my
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wife said to me today, I just thought, what if it were you?
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And there is some truth to that. But that's exactly, that's
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exactly the point of fucking terrorism, Sam, is to make us
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afraid to speak. I can't do that.
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Yeah. That's, that's not, yeah, that's
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about, that's not what I'm about and that's not what Charlie Kirk
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was about. He walked right into their den
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and said let's talk. And that's all he ever did was.
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Talk that that's the that's the out.
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That's the that's the really like, you know that is.
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All the man did was talk. That is that is both the beauty
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of Charlie Hurricane also, you know, the tragedy of why his
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loss was so profound that I've I was talking to, you know, friend
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of mine in front of the show, Karina Harney.
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And she was, you know, we were both, you know, talking about
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what, you know, what is the just the the pitiful say of free
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speech in this country? You know her, her former boss,
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Hugh Hefner was a free speech absolutist.
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And she's and she said and I think she's absolutely right.
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And some others in her circles have reached out to me.
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But the old school liberal, the half would have been that lefted
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the old school liberal. They're gone now.
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They're. They're.
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They're either gone or with us on the on the right.
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Yeah, they're. Yeah, voters or they, they lost
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that and just decided to virtue signal into wokeness.
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It's one or the other. I'm the 90s liberal.
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Yeah. The the 90s liberal are
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independent Trump voters. Or they went full woke.
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There's none left. Facts.
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Which which it which is a, which is a fucking shame, but that's
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today really showed me that that's where we're at in this
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country. Well.
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I and I for one, refuse to bow to terrorists even if they're my
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fellow Americans and will not say I'm afraid to have these
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milquetoast ass opinions that Charlie Kirk had.
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I have or you have that are basically congruent with the
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fucking normal American ideals since the founding of this
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fucking country. If they want to act like it's
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weird to have that and that we deserve to fucking die, then you
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better fucking be willing to bring a goddamn army.
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A fucking man, you know, like that's that's the other thing
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too is like this is the other thing that like Kyle Mills, you
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know, the author and I spoke out a few weeks ago like and there
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were there are a lot of authors who, you know, spoke out today
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too, like, you know, against the left, some of whom have been on
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the show, some and some of whom, you know, we're we're pretty
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apolitical up until today, but you know the.
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But it kept the whole their throat and then until they have
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them say something. The whole idea that word, that
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words are violence, which is what the left is, you know that.
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That's how they're justifying the Charlie Kerr.
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They can eat fucking shit with that.
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Why does? Why they deserved it?
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If that's I I want to talk about that real quick Sam, that's my
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solution words or violence OK, well as far as I was aware at
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least today there is reports that somebody had put up a
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threat on the Internet yesterday.
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Now if that's true, not whatever.
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How many cases did they put up manifestos?
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How many cases did they put up warnings?
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How many cases? And these fucking section 230
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bullshit protecting all these platforms needs to go.
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If they post a manifesto and you didn't do anything to intervene
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and they go out and commit actual violence.
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I think Facebook, Twitter, all of them Reddit need to be held
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to account for hosting terroristic propaganda.
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If companies want to be considered people, they need to
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be accountable like people. And not just the companies, the
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motherfuckers posting threats agree.
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You need to go back to the way it used to be, where if you
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fucking said something violent in public, somebody came and
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knocked on your door to make sure that you weren't a threat
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and you either ended up in a fucking prison cell or padded
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room. We are way too laissez faire
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about threats on the Internet. Considering the things that have
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taken place, considering how many assassination attempts that
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we've seen, considering how many assassinations we've seen, yes,
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the CEO of that healthcare company, that was an
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assassination. There's no other word for it.
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Yep. The people, the people who got
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Molotov cocktails while protesting for, for fucking
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Israel or whatever, that that's an assassination.
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We are having political assassinations in 2025 and when
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you were at that point you need to fucking crack down on violent
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rhetoric. We're we're getting political
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assassinations by the people who claim that we're the fucking
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violent ones too. I know, I know, and it's awesome
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because I was mentioning before we came on the air, Sam, how do
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they came to power in the 60s and 70's, The left was on the
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back of political assassinations against their guys.
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They've forgotten this. They forgot that the MFK was
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their martyr. They forgot that Bobby Kennedy
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was their martyr. They forgot the JFK was their
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martyr. They forgot Malcolm X was their
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martyr. They forgot all of that.
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And then they're make trying to make Trump a martyr.
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They're now they've made Charlie I, I hate to use the word
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because my God, he was 10 years younger than me, Sam, He's 10
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years my junior. He should not be gone, but he's
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a martyr whether we like it or not.
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Yeah, he's God now and he'll be OK.
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It's the rest of us I pray for. Yeah, I real quick, I, I want to
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just take a moment to say thank you to everyone who has, you
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know, reached out to me and offered, you know, condolences.
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And I would just, I would urge people to, you know, send
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condolences to the main turning point, you know, account and
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send condolences to, you know, Charlie's family.
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I got. Though also respect their
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privacy right now. And but yeah, if you generally
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I, I would say if you really want to send condolences at the
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TPUSA accounts, probably a good place where they'll probably
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appreciate some kind words right now.
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Yeah, I would. I would imagine the.
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Main offices at TPU would say are anything but in absolute
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devastation right now. Honestly, like I never thought.
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I mean, I never that I never thought that, you know, a guy
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who simply started a college, you know, a college conservative
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program would be the target of a political assassination that
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just that never. I don't.
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I mean, I guess that's the other thing is like comparing.
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Doesn't feel real now. It doesn't feel real now.
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This is wild. I can't make jokes.
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There ain't no fucking jokes I can make.
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I'm angry. I'm.
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Sad. I mean, I mean, even if, even
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if, even if we're even if we're Alex Jones, you know, I would
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still be sad and I would still. But doesn't matter who it would
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be, right? I I, I would grieve this way for
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a left winger that got murdered in this manner.
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I have, I've been talking about Malcolm X's murder.
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And it happened before I was born on this show this year.
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I am always against. Yeah, violence.
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We're always against political violence.
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We've made that very clear. And yet it keeps going beyond
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anything. And then we hear the month.
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The, the, the, the run-of-the-mill right is just,
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they're right. You know, when the left says,
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oh, thoughts and prayers doesn't do anything, they're fucking
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right. Because that's the only answer
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we get half the time from the conservative mainstream.
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And then the left wing mainstream will tell us, whoa,
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take the guns. Well.
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Yeah, what will the rest? Of us who live in the fucking
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real world, What are we who? Which side we got to pick one or
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the other, right? My, my or one or one thing I've
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been seeing today is, well, Charlie didn't want to take guns
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away and now he was shot by one. It's like they don't.
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Yeah, but Charlie didn't. They don't get.
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A violent crime to be not treated as a serious thing.
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In fact, that's the opposite of what he believed.
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Yeah, as I saw today, that gun violence is I'm going to get
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this wrong, but something's the effect of gun violence is the
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sacrifice we make for the Second Amendment.
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Yeah. I just.
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And you know what? I do think there needs to be a
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crackdown on violent terroristic rhetoric.
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That's my solution. And actually it would have been
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Charlie's solution too. He mentioned it before.
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He talked about how Antifa should be labeled the terror
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Group 1. Yes.
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I mean, this is like they like, that's the thing of why I even
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use the word martyr. I don't like to apply that word
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to a man who's just freshly passed away.
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OK, but like everything he stood for, they proved him right with
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a bullet. Exactly.
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You, you guys wanted to do you want you guys wanted to do you
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guys wanted to, you know, somehow prove him wrong.
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Well, guess what? You, you fucking proved him
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right on. You don't prove somebody wrong
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by shooting them. Because ideas are bulletproof.
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They should know that it's from one of their favorite fucking
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little movies. Yeah.
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Warp about. Yeah.
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They all like to LARP that their V from Vendetta and that this
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was justice. This wasn't justice.
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This was a this was a father of young children murdered in cold
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blood for no reason except ideology.
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And it doesn't matter which fucking strain of leftist
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ideology. Matter of fact, even if it right
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winger, it turns out they find a guy who did it and he was a
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right winger. It's still ideology and it's
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still violent fucking extremism. That's the fucking problem.
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And I'm telling you, good friend ASA J on the on the right after
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Trump was elected made this prediction called about what he
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was calling a color revolution. OK, the red and the blue are
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going to fight each other so violently that the everybody
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who's purple, everybody in the middle is going to say stop
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them, crush them. And we?
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All will. Lose rights in the process,
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That's what they're accelerating towards, Sam.
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And I and I and I see how I see it happening.
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Two unfor unfor unfortunately. And there it's not a grand
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conspiracy, even if that's what it sounds like, because they
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don't need a grand conspiracy. I promise you this, Sam the
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shooter probably did actually act alone.
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Because they don't need to fucking prop these guys, wind
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them up and give them a plan no more.
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They just fucking tell them to do it over and over again in
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their media. Hassan Piker calls for violence
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every fucking day on his Twitch. Every fucking day.
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You don't need a rocket. All you need is crazy people in
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society and give those crazy people the same bullshit violent
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message over and over and over again until one of them pops and
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then you get exactly what you wanted.
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They can't. The there's a downside to this
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strategy. It's not as efficient as when
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you set a shooter up and set up a Patsy and have this whole
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fucking elaborate plan. However, you never get caught.
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Hassan Piker has a little bit of Charlie Kirk's blood on his
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hands, and by the way, I watched his reaction.
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So does Daniel, Nancy. And I hope that fucking felt
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disgusting, Hassan. I hope that it fucking hurt to
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watch. He almost cried.
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Good, you had a hand in it. Also, fuck MSNBC.
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I'm glad, I'm glad you said that, Sam, because if you had an
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eye, what out? And also fuck Keith Olbermann
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too, because. I knew you were.
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Keith Olbermann. That's because Keith.
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Olbermann right there. Because Keith Olbermann, that
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fucking boomer ass faggot, made a tweet a few years ago.
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And I'm not going to dig it up because I don't, I don't have
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to. But he made, he made a tweet
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basically saying, well, if Charlie, you know, Charlie Kirk,
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you know, is for guns. But what if something happened
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to him with one? How?
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As with most of your tanks, Keith, it aged like milk.
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Like spoiled milk. It from from from normal point
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of view, but on the left when he said that he was in the fringe.
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Now that's the mainstream opinion.
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Yeah. And that's what I mean their,
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their fucking rhetoric has gone off the God damn wall.
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I watch enough left wing media, Sam.
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I know it's, I don't just see the clips like most of y'all out
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there. I'll watch MSNBC, I'll listen to
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fucking NPR and I want to know what they're saying.
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I read Huffington Post and let me tell you, all of those
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supposed reputable mainstream left wing outlets, all of them
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call for political violence regularly.
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Regularly. Yes, with they.
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Pose it as jokes, they pose it as riddles, they say it
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outright. It doesn't matter.
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But the the end of the day, the message of all of these left
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wing outlets is that somebody has to do something.
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Yeah, yeah. It's just, you know, it's just
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a, it's just a thought exercise. It's just a thought exercise,
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guys. We're just, we're just
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hypothesizing. Nah, fuck that.
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Reddit needs to be just closed down probably.
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You know what, let's be fair about it.
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Sam 4 Chan and Reddit both. Go Yeah.
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Equal because how many threats have been on both that have that
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have amounted to something? How many times has violent
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threats whether it be terroristic or just normal
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criminal shit? How many times have murders
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threat all that been posted on either 4 Chan or Reddit and
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then. Actually happened a lot.
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A fucking lot, yeah. So there we go.
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I think Reddit's the bigger problem, but somebody else might
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think 4 Chan's the bigger problem and I Sam I'm a deal
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maker so we get rid of them both.
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Yeah, equal, equal, equal opportunity.
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Why not? Oh, and fuck the the Dems in
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Congress. They couldn't be fucking silent
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for two goddamn minutes today. They actually screamed no, and
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they booed. They booed the idea of praying
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for a murdered man. Just remember that.
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The fucking the honor. Fucking George Goddamn Floyd.
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But Charlie Kirk? Boo.
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Yeah. And so, you know, in the spirit
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of that, I, Sam, would love to dig up George Floyd and wipe my
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ass on his head. Wouldn't that be funny?
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That'd be so funny, wouldn't it? I I'd like to take a piss on his
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corpse. Yeah.
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Oh, that's so funny, isn't it? And now actually, we don't
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really feel like we're not sickos.
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That's so we're just joking. I guess that's what counts as a
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joke tonight, as sick as it is. But.
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Yeah. The reality is, is like, they
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say casual shit like that all the time about Trump.
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You see it every fucking day. You don't see us say shit like
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that. And I picked a target that's
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been dead for five years to joke about, you know what I mean?
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Yeah. Do we?
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I'd challenge anybody out there, hey lefties, go through the
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entire catalog, at least of me on the show since I'm not
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speaking for Sam here, and find a point where we ever endorsed
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political violence, ever. Even even go through, even even
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go through my catalog, go back all the way go all the way back
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to 2000 fucking 9 when I was an edgy teenager.
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I can guarantee you, I can guarantee you.
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And then I might have said I might have said some edgy shit
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on occasion, but I never once called for political violence.
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I call the only time I called for violence was in
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self-defense. And that's a very, you know,
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specific situation. I.
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I've called, yeah, for people to defend themselves when attacked.
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But the other one is I have called for a form of violence.
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It's called that. I have said that people who are
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engaged in sedition and treason should be brought to a fair
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trial and, if convicted and found guilty, be hung.
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Yeah. But that's not violent, that's
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not political violence. That's calling for the law to be
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applied to people in Congress. I mean, I've I mean, I've also
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said that, like the special forces should white that we
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should, you know, that we should like, you know, wipe ISIS off
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the map at the time, which we fucking did.
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Well, that's. You know we were at.
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War. That's.
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Different. Yeah.
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Look, anybody calling for the harm or assassination of an
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American citizen who is an American citizen is engaged in
28:35
domestic terrorism if you attempt.
28:38
So First off, if you make those kind of threats, I think that
28:42
the FBI should come knocking at your fucking door.
28:44
And I don't care what political stripe you are.
28:47
I don't care if you're a righty. I don't care if you're a lefty.
28:49
If you go online and you say I'm going.
28:51
To da, da, da, da da. Da da, whatever violent, fucking
28:54
stupid thing you're going to do, somebody needs to come, and at
28:58
very minimum. Ask.
29:01
Were you just, were you just fucking around?
29:04
Are you just blowing off steam? Do you are, are you serious?
29:07
Do we need to get you into a padded room or do we need to get
29:10
you into a fucking cell where you can't hurt anybody?
29:15
Yeah, I mean. And Sam, I think we need to
29:20
build a lot more padded rooms. I've been saying that for a
29:23
while. We need to open them the fuck
29:26
up. We literally talked about this
29:28
like last week too. And it's funny because like, you
29:34
know, I know some people that are left wing and here's the
29:41
line between left wingers and crazy guys.
29:43
Right now is the best time you'll ever have to determine in
29:46
your life if that left winger in your life is beyond help.
29:53
If they can't say a man being murdered is bad, they are beyond
30:01
help. Or I've got, I've got one
30:05
better, I've got one better for, for you Max too, Because they,
30:08
they can say that. But then, like I said,
30:11
unfortunately I've seen some, you know, some people who I, who
30:14
I thought were reasonable. They've said stuff like, well,
30:18
you know, he didn't deserve to die.
30:20
He did, kind of. But he was a bad.
30:23
Bite on. He did kind of invite on
30:26
himself. How about like, just know, How
30:29
about you just leave it at he shouldn't?
30:31
How about you just? Yeah, yeah, there's no excuse.
30:36
Words do not provoke violence. Having an opinion does not
30:40
entitle. You to a death sentence.
30:44
Yeah. Sir.
30:48
But it's like I said, though, you can draw the line in the
30:52
sand right now and determine if the left winger in your life is
30:58
beyond hell. It's real simple.
31:00
If they say, wow, that was really bad, what happened?
31:03
And I don't like it because you know what I might have said?
31:07
Hassan had a little bit of the blood on his hands, Sam.
31:10
But you know what he said? He said it was horrible.
31:13
He said he didn't like it. So if it's on fucking Piker can
31:18
say it and you can't, you're a psychopath.
31:21
If you if, if he can say it and you can't, you're worth it.
31:24
Worse than Hassan? Right.
31:27
So imagine that, Sam. Imagine you're you're more crazy
31:31
than the most violent rhetoric, terroristy guy on the fucking
31:35
Internet. If you can't say that this was
31:39
bad. So if somebody in your life
31:40
can't just say, yeah, you know what?
31:42
It's terrible that we would have such a thing happen.
31:44
And it's terrible that it happened to him.
31:46
And it's awful what happened, that his family is now left
31:49
without a father and all of these people, the young lives
31:52
that he touched, are in mourning.
31:54
If you can't say it's bad, I think, frankly, I think you
31:57
should be locked up. Yeah.
32:01
It's indicated, it's an indicator of psychosis in my
32:04
mind that you cannot say a murder is bad.
32:08
So that's the test. If somebody in your life does
32:11
not think that this is bad at all when confront and hey, maybe
32:15
they start with, I'll get, I'll give a little leeway, Sam.
32:18
Maybe they even start with a joke because on the left,
32:21
they're so casual about these things now.
32:23
But if you stop that person that you care about, because I'm
32:26
talking about people you care about, I'm not trying to smash
32:28
your relationships. I'm trying to save them.
32:31
If you stop that person after they've made a joke about this
32:34
and say, man, actually, that really bothers me because da,
32:38
da, da, da, da. And they say, you know what?
32:40
Oh, my God, yeah. It's an awful tragedy, and I'm
32:43
sorry, that's forgivable. But somebody that just thinks
32:47
it's funny, I think they should be locked away, not necessarily
32:52
for a crime, but for psychiatric purposes.
32:56
I I do want to address. What's wrong with them?
33:00
I, I do want to address a few liberals in my life and I don't,
33:04
I don't want to call them out by name, but I hope they're
33:07
watching. And to those specific
33:10
individuals, I know you didn't like Charlie Kirk for whatever
33:14
reason, sure. But I know, I know you guys like
33:17
me, even if we disagree politically.
33:20
Imagine for a SEC that it's not Charlie Kirk that passed away.
33:25
Imagine for a SEC that it's actually me that got shot.
33:31
And we and we may disagree, but you've always known me to be a
33:34
decent guy. And yet some of your fellow
33:38
lefties were saying, ah, but Sammy.
33:41
But Sam, you know, he said, you know, he didn't deserve to die,
33:46
but he did say controversial things.
33:48
So he kind of brought it on himself.
33:51
Imagine how you would feel. Yeah, you might be.
33:54
Held to defend him, huh? Because.
33:57
Feel compelled to say, but Sam was a great guy.
34:01
Yeah, that's where we're at when you when you make those
34:04
comments. So look, yeah, anybody that has
34:07
like, if you actually have humanity, this is not something
34:11
to fucking joke about. And and listen, I I want to
34:15
address something too real, real quick.
34:19
You know, we, I've had disagreements with Charlie Kirk
34:23
in the past over management style.
34:27
I think people miss, I think people have misunderstood kind
34:30
of in the past that like they think that Charlie and I have
34:33
had some sort of beef. No, we, Yeah, we.
34:37
Talked extensively about this like 2 years ago, right.
34:41
With Shmuli, it's, it's an organizational thing you didn't
34:46
like. Yeah.
34:47
And and by the way, a lot of the criticisms that you pointed out,
34:51
and I don't want to give it because it's, it's such petty
34:53
bullshit at this point, but. No, but.
34:56
That you were pointing out in a lot of cases Charlie changed
35:01
TPUSA in a way that your criticism wasn't even valid
35:05
anymore. So basically you criticized it
35:07
and and he fixed it. Yeah.
35:10
I mean there, there was also yeah, that I mean that's, that's
35:13
what was largely. The other one is that you came
35:17
to be pro Trump long before he did.
35:21
But in the end, I mean, we all know he's been very friendly
35:25
with Trump the last several years, so.
35:27
Yeah, and. That's all in history.
35:30
I just want people to know that you criticized him in the past.
35:33
Doesn't mean you like we've said nothing but nice things about
35:37
TP. He was saying since I've been
35:39
here. Right we've.
35:41
Shown Kirk videos on the show. We've.
35:45
Talked about. His different speeches and
35:49
things like, yeah, we're not haters and this devastates us.
35:54
I mean, I mean, honestly now my, my only regret and I, I'm
35:59
sincere about this. My only regret is that I
36:01
couldn't shake his hand in person.
36:03
And you know, so I know, I know it's been, I know it's been a
36:07
long time, but you know, you, you've done well so.
36:13
I think I can do the next best thing for all of us.
36:16
Sam, and I mentioned it earlier, is maybe say a little prayer for
36:19
him and he would appreciate that.
36:21
And actually Maxine picked out a Psalm for me to read.
36:28
And so I'm just going to read this.
36:30
It's Psalm 54. And you know, just looking it
36:33
over, it was very fitting. So save me, O God, by the name,
36:40
and judge me by Thy strength. Hear my prayer, O God.
36:44
Give ear to the words of my mouth, for strangers are risen
36:48
up against me, and oppresses. Seek after my soul.
36:52
They have not God before them. Salah.
36:56
Behold, God is mine helper. The Lord is with them that
37:01
uphold my soul. He shall reward evil unto mine
37:04
enemies. Cut them off in Thy truth I will
37:08
freely sacrifice unto Thee. I will praise Thy name, O Lord,
37:12
for it is good. For He hath delivered me out of
37:16
all trouble, and mine eyes has seen his desire upon my enemies.
37:26
Amen. Amen.
37:31
Guieten Pache. Lord, we we pray for Charlie
37:38
Kirk's family and for his friends and his colleagues, and
37:45
we ask that you touch them in this very difficult time.
37:51
And we also ask that you lead this country in this dark hour
37:58
and that you lead us to walk in your path and strive to be a
38:05
better and, you know, just help people to see beyond politics
38:20
and be one with each other under guidance and under love.
38:34
And guide law enforcement as they continue to investigate.
38:44
And, you know, just lay your hand upon this nation, dear
38:56
Lord, because we sure need it. We pray this in your name, Amen.
39:00
Amen. Yeah.
39:08
It's rough out there, but I think we could get through this.
39:13
And, you know, we could be thankful that we had Charlie in
39:17
the world at all to awaken the hearts and minds of many, many
39:23
young men and women, a generation of which we're seeing
39:29
the fruits of only now just starting to.
39:32
And may that work continue on for many years to come, even in
39:37
his absence. Yeah, I, I shared, I, I shared
39:46
earlier on Twitter that Andrew Breitbart, you know, when he
39:51
passed, that was, you know, I was AI was a teenager and, you
39:57
know, that was a heart attack. That was still tragic.
40:00
But that was, you know, one of my activation moments.
40:05
I've always carried a torch for Breitbart.
40:08
And, you know, maybe, maybe there's maybe there's a younger
40:15
me out there that, you know, was inspired by Charlie Kirk.
40:20
And you know if that's the case. Yeah.
40:28
I, I wish, I wish them much success as well.
40:38
There's always. You know, we can always pick up
40:42
and move on. This is a devastating blow for
40:45
sure, but the last thing Charlie would ever want is for people to
40:49
give up hope. Yeah, no, you're right.
40:55
And, you know, look, we we don't at least I don't do as much of
41:01
like that, you know, hard hitting like activism like
41:04
Charlie did. But I feel like, you know, in
41:08
kind of circles that I run within the author, in the author
41:11
world, we're very pro America. Almost all the authors I know
41:17
are either, you know, veterans or veteran adjacent.
41:24
We very much all have the old school, you know, pro America,
41:34
you know, vibe. And it is funny that you say
41:36
that Max, that we're kind of in, in the 1970s air right now
41:42
because, you know, the civil rights movement did end by all
41:49
the way, but also with the with the culture in the, you know, in
41:53
the 70s, you, you got, you know, movies like Dirty Herring, Death
42:00
Wish, which were kind like they pushed hard against the left and
42:03
against a lot of this, you know. Mixed one in a landslide, yeah.
42:12
And, you know, the night of the night of the vigilante, you
42:17
know, was A, at least for me, was a bigger hit than I thought.
42:22
That was talking about cartel violence.
42:25
I did not I I did not expect it to get the reception.
42:29
That was the fun side idea you had been floating around to us
42:34
for a while. You're like I wanna write about
42:37
a. Cartel cowboy.
42:39
Kind of deal. I remember and I was like, that
42:41
sounds awesome. Not gonna.
42:42
Lie. And you were like, yeah, yeah.
42:44
But I got to get through like, shadows deception 1-2 and three,
42:47
and then I'll get it to it. And when you finally did, yeah,
42:49
it deserved to blow up because it was a great idea, man.
42:53
Yeah, and blood ties, you know, blood ties too has also has also
43:00
blown up and. Tell you're having a lot of fun
43:04
in both of those. Books, by the way.
43:08
I'm having. Meant to be fun.
43:12
I'm having fun, but boy, I like I have to tell.
43:15
I have to tell you too. Like it.
43:18
It is a little this is unfortunately one of the sad
43:22
things is unfortunately, you know, it's one thing to write
43:27
about political assassinations in a fictional setting.
43:32
It's. Yeah.
43:34
It is kind of sad when both Eric, you know, Bishop or
43:41
Terrence Mcaulay or learning one of us when any one of us can
43:44
pull from today's headlines political and you know, for like
43:49
story inspiration. That's, I mean, it's, it's a,
43:57
it's bittersweet because. This kind of security because of
44:01
many of those authors since the Trump attempted assassination
44:06
last year. And one of the things that
44:08
always comes up is the Secret Service.
44:11
Here's a case where there would be none.
44:15
Like, yeah, like, like, like, let's be real for a second.
44:18
From a tactical point of view, this is the most cowardly
44:21
bullshit possible. This is a man that puts himself
44:24
out there, right out in the open, in front of everybody all
44:27
the fucking time. Oh, you're so fucking brave.
44:37
Yeah, I mean, that's the, that's the other thing too is like.
44:41
I like my way Sam. I don't want this guy to kill
44:45
himself with a gun. I don't want him to get shot
44:47
down by the cops. I would like to have a nice fair
44:51
trial. And put it on a trial his.
44:52
Neck in the public square for everybody to fucking see.
44:57
Yeah, he hit it in the public square he made with.
45:01
There's going to be a generation of kids who end up seeing that
45:04
fucking shit and traumatized by it.
45:10
Imagine going, imagine going, imagine being a student and
45:14
going to see Charlie. Even if you, you know, the one
45:18
thing I will say is even if you, even if you disagree, even if
45:21
you disagree with Charlie, if if you're, if you're a, a liberal
45:25
or a left, even if you went to go see Charlie, speak with a
45:30
with an open mind. Good on you and it has to be I.
45:36
I feel bad for anyone who. That's why I want to point out
45:40
it's not. Everybody on the left is not a
45:42
devil, but if they can't see what happened as being bad,
45:45
that's your line in the sand right there.
45:49
Yeah. He he touched people on the left
45:52
too and he might not even change them to the right.
45:55
But the conversations, I've seen videos of people saying just the
45:59
conversation with the main hit them think about things
46:02
differently. That's all he was trying to get
46:04
at, ever. I like like I said.
46:15
Sorry, Sam. No, you're.
46:20
Get a little wound up at this. It's it just it, it's, it's an
46:23
attack at everything we hold dear.
46:25
Honestly, not just on the right, but like the country we're, we
46:29
love. It's against everything it
46:31
stands for. Yeah, I mean, listen, I like
46:40
right now even I'm getting bombarded with, you know,
46:43
messages of just like people being like, what is going on on
46:48
with the world. And like I I don't know that
46:53
I'll ever be, as, you know, popular as Charlotte Crook.
47:00
And as much as I had to say like today, today is one of those
47:04
days. I'm glad I'm still some of an
47:07
anonymous. But I, I will tell you this as
47:10
someone who's traveled in similar circles, if you can hear
47:15
my voice right now, do not despair because one thing that
47:24
Charlie and I did agree on, although we had maybe different
47:28
tactical approaches, we believe that Americana and the idea of
47:33
America is awesome. This country might not be
47:39
perfect, but as I've said before.
47:42
Is that God is great. Yes.
47:47
Great. Yep, and then that's a good for
47:52
enough reason to hope it's it's tough.
47:56
You know, this is, this is going to, this is going to be
48:01
something that hurts for a while for a lot of us.
48:05
I don't know if yeah, but I just saw this come across my feet on
48:09
Twitter. Apparently Matthew Dowd was
48:14
planned from MSNBC for his bullshit.
48:17
Good. Fuck that app.
48:20
Fuck that motherfucking asshole. Great, I I hope that's actually
48:24
true. Yeah, well, that's the problem.
48:28
Putting on things or talking about things like this too, is
48:32
as far as when we went on the air, as far as I knew, we didn't
48:35
have a shooter in custody. There'd been disputes about
48:38
that. And the facts of the the case
48:41
might be up in the air. But we do know, you know, that
48:45
Charlie Kirk was shot and then he died.
48:47
And that's kind of what we had to focus on, as hard as that is.
48:51
I'm sure that later on when we're all in a better head frame
48:54
and there's more information, we could talk about the logistics
48:57
of the case and I'm sure there will be disputes about evidence
49:02
and things. But for right now, it was like
49:04
we were barely able to come together to do the show, just to
49:08
process what had happened, guys. Yeah, and also I'm, I'm, I, I
49:15
really do apologize. I usually I usually don't swear
49:21
on air like this but just a lot of raw emotions.
49:32
I figured. You know, I figured a little bit
49:35
of Bible reading and prayer might, you know, help and it it
49:38
does I. Think, but it's.
49:41
Just. Terrible.
49:43
It does, but. There's going to be a does
49:46
country. Yeah, and it's I just hope and I
49:55
just hope that it's mostly peaceful.
49:59
And I'm not even, I'm not even saying that out as like a as
50:04
like a joke. Well, it's like, I don't, I
50:10
don't want to crack down. That creates, let's say.
50:15
A. A.
50:16
A more of right loss, you know, I, I, I think we've, we've lost
50:21
enough rights with the TSA, we've lost enough rights with
50:23
the Patriot Act. We've lost enough rights with
50:25
da, da, da, da, da, da on and on.
50:27
It's only going to create a situation if we try and crack
50:30
down on violent extremism that does inevitably affect people.
50:35
And so the libertarians out there that know that that's
50:38
going to happen. I'm sorry, but I tried to warn
50:40
everybody that this is, and I'm still warning because we haven't
50:44
got there yet, just so you know, But the political violence
50:47
coming from both far ends of the spectrum is going to incite the
50:52
center to say I don't care about their rights anymore.
50:56
Stop this now. And now, on that day, we'll all
51:01
lose rights. Yeah.
51:07
Centuries to normies won't give the slightest fuck.
51:13
They just want to be safe out in public.
51:18
They just want to not have the guy that they watched on YouTube
51:22
get shot to death. They just want normalcy and they
51:27
will get it. They will demand it and it will
51:31
come at the heads of the fucking violent people and anybody even
51:35
remotely associated with them, and they won't care.
51:44
Yeah, it's. Outcome of all of this political
51:47
violence. I know, I know there's the the
51:49
Tim Poole Larpers out there that are like civil war.
51:52
It's never going to actually look like that bro.
51:55
No, especially in 2025. I mean, I mean somewhat.
52:02
I mean, some would say that we're kind of already in a soft
52:07
civil war right now. And I mean, as much as I say it
52:11
like, I don't necessarily agree with that, but like I can kind
52:15
of see why people might think that in in a weird way.
52:20
It's a case that you could easily make pulling from the
52:22
headlines, right? Yeah.
52:25
Now, people's day-to-day doesn't actually resemble that.
52:29
Most people in a given week talk to people they disagree with in
52:32
the course of business and shopping and whatever else.
52:36
Like it's not actually as dire as that.
52:40
However, when you see political violence happening frequently,
52:43
yeah, it feels that way, doesn't it?
52:47
I mean, what I mean, one of my, I mean one of my, you know, one
52:53
of my friends who I like talk to almost every day.
52:58
He basically said today like, you know, he's, he's barely on
53:04
social media like at all, But he said today, like even Twitter,
53:08
he he got off just because he, he said, he just said I I just
53:14
fucking can't. He's like I, he's like, I don't
53:18
know how you do it, like promoting the book and doing.
53:22
Every day I can't imagine this guy.
53:27
I don't. I don't even props to Craig like
53:31
for going on blue sky and like my fucking Facebook timeline is
53:36
a fucking disaster. Instagram like isn't much
53:40
better. I had to.
53:44
I had to unfollow at least one artist that I've known for more
53:48
than a decade and 1/2. Yeah.
53:52
Yeah, my actual friend, Yeah, it's a shame.
53:56
But again, my line in the sand for you being the psychopath is
54:01
if you cannot acknowledge that a man being shot in cold blood is.
54:05
Bad. So he couldn't acknowledge that
54:08
he thought it was good. So he thought my line is a
54:11
psycho. Which that which like by the
54:15
way, that is a super fucking low bar.
54:20
Yeah, it. Really is.
54:22
Hey Sam, you compared it to a hypothetical of what if you got
54:25
shot? I got a better hypothetical to
54:27
compare it to because it's not a hypothetical.
54:30
You talk to any boomer that doesn't have sympathy or feels
54:35
like some kind of way about this.
54:37
Ask them how they felt when Martin Luther King got shot.
54:40
Because it's it is exactly the same.
54:45
Exactly, a peaceful man of God who came to places only to speak
54:51
to other people about his beliefs was shot in cold blood.
54:56
It's the same fucking thing leaving behind a widow and
55:00
children. It is exactly the same as what
55:03
happened to Martin Luther King Junior.
55:06
That's that's what, that's what my stepfather said, actually.
55:12
And I I say it's. Wrong but.
55:14
King and I said it's wrong when it happened to Malcolm X, and I
55:17
said it's wrong when it happened to both the Kennedy brothers and
55:21
it's fucking wrong now. Yeah, there there's a 4 minute
55:28
clip that Trump tweeted on, on on on ice, I guess about, about,
55:33
about Charlie. You want to pull that up.
55:38
Have you have you seen it? Yep, it's in the DMS.
55:41
OK, real quick, I I have to ask like it's not it doesn't have
55:48
like footage of the shooting, right?
55:51
Because. It's it's emit emit at the desk.
55:55
OK, well, OK then we'll we'll play it.
55:57
I I just I really like people are playing the the footage I.
56:04
Yeah, we, I don't, I don't want to replay the footage, people.
56:07
Yeah. I.
56:09
It's just him, him, him at his desk.
56:13
Yeah, I'm not. I understand curiosity, OK, but
56:16
we're not going to show that. Yeah, no.
56:20
Like, like, I, I know, I know Jake.
56:24
I know Jake Widmer is watching him.
56:26
Like like, trust me, like even like even people I know who are
56:31
used to like seeing hardcore stuff like happened has been hot
56:35
shaken by. It I grew up in an emergency
56:38
room, Sam, and it made me cry. I don't want to see it.
56:44
Again, Yeah, I mean. I'm going to see it again
56:47
because it's all over the fucking Internet, but at least
56:50
here, we're not going to force anybody to see that shit that.
56:54
Doesn't work. And if you haven't?
56:57
Seen. Me, you're being spared.
57:00
Don't go seek it out. Yeah, I I've seen, Yeah.
57:11
I mean, I thought, see, I thought seeing the I thought
57:16
seeing the Trump, you know, video was bad and it was.
57:22
But like, this is, this makes that look like fucking child's
57:30
play. Yeah, agreed.
57:33
You basically got to stay off social media today if you care
57:37
about this. That's my best suggestion to
57:41
people. See yeah, she just got non
57:48
consensually exposed to one of the fucking pictures on Facebook
57:52
is what I mean. And fuck me, Rumbles, I'll be.
58:03
Rumbles being Rumble again, God damn it.
58:05
Sam got rumbled. That that's what, that's what,
58:09
that's what we get for trying to watch a video of Trump.
58:15
Yeah, God damn it, Mort. I apologize.
58:21
Rumble decided to do its thing. Any who.
58:34
Yeah. Yeah.
58:37
I mean, just stay off. Stay off social, Yeah.
58:43
It's. And you know.
58:47
Quick, the other thing, replying to the nasty people with nasty
58:51
stuff is not worth your time either in my opinion.
58:54
But that's just don't say don't even bother with them.
58:58
Just sorry, Sam. Let's see what the president
59:02
said. I, I've, I've muted, I, I, yeah,
59:06
I've, I've muted a bunch of people today.
59:10
I know Charlie would love to hear, you know, Charlie was the
59:13
biggest Trump fan. And I know that, you know, I
59:21
know that Charlie would appreciate this.
59:22
So let's hear what the president has to say.
59:26
To my great fellow Americans, I am filled with grief and anger
59:30
at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk on a college campus
59:35
in Utah. Charlie inspired millions and
59:38
tonight all who knew him and loved him are united in shock
59:43
and horror. Charlie was a patriot who
59:47
devoted his life to the cause of open debate and the country that
59:51
he loves so much, the United States of America.
59:55
He fought for liberty, democracy, justice, and the
59:57
American people. He's a martyr for truth and
1:00:01
freedom, and there's never been anyone who was so respected by
1:00:05
youth. Charlie was also a man of deep,
1:00:10
deep faith, and we take comfort in the knowledge that he is now
1:00:14
at peace with God in heaven. Our prayers are with his wife
1:00:19
Erica, the two young beloved children, and his entire family
1:00:24
who he loved more than anything in the world.
1:00:27
We ask God to watch over them in this terrible hour of heartache
1:00:32
and pain. This is a dark moment for
1:00:36
America. Charlie Kirk traveled the nation
1:00:39
joyfully, engaging with everyone interested in good faith debate.
1:00:45
His mission was to bring young people into the political
1:00:48
process, which he did better than anybody ever, to share his
1:00:54
love of country and to spread the simple words of common sense
1:00:59
on campuses nationwide. He championed his ideas with
1:01:02
courage, logic, humor and grace. It's a long past time for all
1:01:08
Americans and the media to confront the fact that violence
1:01:12
and murder are the tragic consequence of demonizing those
1:01:17
with whom you disagree day after day, year after year, in the
1:01:21
most hateful and despicable way possible.
1:01:24
For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful
1:01:29
Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass
1:01:34
murderers and criminals. This kind of rhetoric is
1:01:38
directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in
1:01:42
our country today, and it must stop right now.
1:01:47
My administration will find each and everyone of those who
1:01:50
contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence,
1:01:55
including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well
1:01:59
as those who go after our judges, law enforcement
1:02:03
officials and everyone else who brings order to our country.
1:02:08
From the attack on my life in Butler, PA, last year which
1:02:12
killed a husband and father, to the attacks on ICE agents, to
1:02:16
the vicious murder of a health care executive in the streets of
1:02:20
New York, to the shooting of House Majority Leader Steve
1:02:24
Scalise and three others, radical left political violence
1:02:28
has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives.
1:02:33
Tonight I ask all Americans to commit themselves to the
1:02:36
American values for which Charlie Kirk lived and died, the
1:02:40
values of free speech, citizenship, the rule of law,
1:02:46
and the patriotic devotion and love of God.
1:02:49
Charlie was the best of America, and the monster who attacked him
1:02:53
was attacking our whole country. An assassin tried to silence him
1:02:58
with a bullet, but he failed. Because together, we will ensure
1:03:02
that his voice, his message, and his legacy will live on for
1:03:06
countless generations to come. Today, because of this heinous
1:03:11
act, Charlie's voice has become bigger and grander than ever
1:03:15
before, and it's not even close. May God bless his memory, May
1:03:21
God watch over his family, and May God bless the United States
1:03:26
of America. Thank you.
1:03:30
Well. He, I'm surprised considering
1:03:36
that he was really close with Charlie, how well maintained he
1:03:40
was for that. But he hit on every point I
1:03:45
would liked out of him. He called it what it is,
1:03:48
terrorism. He said he's going after exactly
1:03:51
what I said. Also, though, does does what he
1:03:54
just said not fulfill my color revolution prophecy?
1:03:58
I've been saying the whole time I've been here, Sam, that this
1:04:01
is going to lead to a crackdown on people for doing this shit,
1:04:06
and it's going to be ugly. Yeah, people have gotten too
1:04:16
comfortable with just, like, casually talking about ending
1:04:20
lives like it's a game, like they live in some kind of
1:04:25
fucking virtual reality where it's just, oh, it's no big deal.
1:04:31
And I'm, I'm not that like I don't want to say it's an age,
1:04:43
it's an age thing. But we're just like I was just,
1:04:50
it's inconceivable to me. Like even even when I'm on the
1:04:55
line I always try and treat people decently.
1:05:03
I mean. On election night, we had your
1:05:06
friend Don, who's a Jill Stein supporter, and me and him became
1:05:10
great at night because it turned out we agreed on a lot of things
1:05:13
and people wouldn't think that, right.
1:05:16
Yeah. All you gotta do is look at
1:05:18
people like fucking people. And the king of that, the king
1:05:21
of that Sam, was Charlie Kirk. What's, what's the thing?
1:05:25
We always say meet, meet people where they're at.
1:05:27
Meet people where they're at. There was Charlie Kirk did that
1:05:30
better than even I, who say it all the time.
1:05:36
I am. But we can't meet people where
1:05:43
they're at. In one case where they're at is
1:05:46
I want violence. We you can't meet anybody there,
1:05:50
right? Meeting them on the battlefield.
1:05:57
Yeah, I. Meet them on the field of ideas
1:06:02
and just say, hey, hey, we disagree and a lot of people are
1:06:06
on our side and you disagree and a lot of people on your side.
1:06:09
That's called democracy. That's called politics.
1:06:12
Shooting somebody is called. Murder.
1:06:16
I, I find it so incredibly sad that I mean, I know, I know
1:06:24
people who are, I know people who are openly gay, but they're
1:06:33
afraid to come out as being Trump supporters because they
1:06:38
might be, because that's. Scarier to be?
1:06:43
That's more. Yeah.
1:06:44
To their health, which is fucking crazy if you think about
1:06:49
in the 80s, but I do. A metal bro like me might decide
1:06:54
to go gay bash. In one night.
1:06:56
Right. So the fact that they're more
1:06:58
scared in 2025 to come out as mildly milquetoast conservative
1:07:04
tells you everything you need to know.
1:07:07
Yeah, the fact that. You know, my, my, my wife is
1:07:13
like, you know, oh, but we're kind of out there and this
1:07:16
could, this could be potentially dangerous.
1:07:18
And it's like, yeah, I can't even say no.
1:07:24
I could. I could, up until Charlie Kirk
1:07:28
got murdered in front of my eyes, a man that I, like I said
1:07:32
we've criticized on the show for like.
1:07:37
Minor shit. We were like, we were like, oh,
1:07:41
well, maybe the organizational structure could be better
1:07:45
because maybe he could listen to more ideas outside that.
1:07:48
That's like the most minor. He would love that discussion.
1:07:51
In fact, like I said, he changed some of the way TPUSA worked
1:07:57
because you weren't the only one saying it.
1:07:59
I'm not even saying, oh, he listened to Sam, that arrogant.
1:08:02
But your, your criticisms of him, Sam, were not alone.
1:08:06
You weren't the only one saying them, and he addressed quite a
1:08:09
few of them. But your criticisms were never
1:08:11
even about policy, about his main goals.
1:08:14
As you put it in the DMS today, your fellow traveler, the
1:08:18
message is almost the same. Yeah, my yeah.
1:08:24
And I mean it. And in a weird way as one of my
1:08:28
friends, like put it like maybe, like maybe, maybe, maybe it's a
1:08:35
good thing. Maybe it's maybe it's a good
1:08:37
thing that like I didn't join Turning Point because maybe the
1:08:44
author's face is where maybe I am supposed to be a creative
1:08:47
and. Everything you know, has its
1:08:52
reason or, you know, God plan or whatever.
1:08:55
But and and you could say in a time like this, that's a callous
1:08:59
thing to say, but Charlie would have said it.
1:09:02
Charlie would have said it. Yeah, he would have said you got
1:09:06
to have some faith in the in the in the creator.
1:09:09
You got to have some faith in your Lord that may he knows
1:09:13
they're going and we don't, you know, but it's tough in times
1:09:17
like this because what fucking plan is the question you're
1:09:20
going to want to ask? And the only answer I can come
1:09:24
up with doesn't necessarily come from anything Charlie say.
1:09:29
It comes from something my father-in-law said, which is
1:09:33
like, just because things are really, really bad doesn't mean
1:09:39
that there's not a plan actually, and that they can turn
1:09:45
around and become something more than just a tragedy.
1:09:52
Yeah, I. I think in the long term this
1:09:57
can turn into a moment of reflection on the state of
1:10:02
things. I think even a lot of left wing
1:10:08
people are affected by this. Sam, Genuinely.
1:10:13
I I hope that this is the moment and I guess this is me just
1:10:22
trying to be like optimism pill. I'm I'm seeing a lot of black of
1:10:26
I'm seeing a lot of black pill stuff out there today.
1:10:29
And, and to a certain extent I get it.
1:10:33
But I've always been an optimist.
1:10:36
It's just always how I've been wired.
1:10:39
As you said last week, I've I don't know why I've always been
1:10:44
been so optimistic. I just am.
1:10:48
But I would hope, and based on what I'm seeing, I've hoped that
1:10:53
this would be the moment that more people on the left would
1:11:00
say, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe we do need to slow down on
1:11:07
the rhetoric and maybe we do need to talk.
1:11:11
To. No, I, I, I know, I, I know
1:11:16
more, but. I did make one joke today.
1:11:23
So when the there's two reasons I made the joke, Sam and I like
1:11:28
to explain it was on Twitter. One is because Charlie had not
1:11:35
been announced as having passed at that point, and the other is
1:11:38
because a a gentleman in the audience had been identified as
1:11:43
potentially the shooter and restrained and taken into
1:11:45
custody. And so I made the joke.
1:11:51
I'll be thinking that it was so surreal what happened, that
1:11:54
Charlie's going to be fine. I kept telling myself that until
1:11:58
I saw Trump tweet it, to be honest with you, Sam.
1:12:02
But I said, I guess we really need common sense boomer
1:12:07
control. And the joke is because boomers
1:12:12
have been whiling the fuck out man and it OK the boomer didn't
1:12:17
do this. That doesn't change my joke and
1:12:20
it also I'd like to apologize because I shouldn't have made it
1:12:25
at all. Yeah.
1:12:31
Well, because he was announced as having passed shortly after
1:12:35
and I felt terrible about it. But I'm not going to delete a
1:12:37
tweet that's no pussy shit. I'm just going to say, look man,
1:12:41
I I shouldn't have made a joke at that point.
1:12:45
Well. Even if even if it was a low key
1:12:48
joke, it was very low level. It wasn't like oh the edges.
1:12:51
I just feel bad about it man. Even even my, if he even my even
1:12:57
my step, even my stepdad who is a boomer, he I think he's been
1:13:04
watching clips of our show because he said something to the
1:13:09
effect of he agrees with a lot of your criticisms of being of
1:13:16
just boomers. It.
1:13:19
Wouldn't. Be that far fetched that a
1:13:21
boomer did it is all I'm saying. You could easily see a lefty
1:13:26
boomer thinking they're a hero because, well, there's already
1:13:30
been a couple of boomers that have tried to kill Trump.
1:13:33
There's been boomers that have tried all kinds of shit.
1:13:36
So I just thought, and also Sam, to add to that, when a shooting
1:13:42
usually happens and they say they have the person on scene in
1:13:46
custody on film, it almost always is that guy, right?
1:13:52
This is the one case they're saying it wasn't that guy.
1:13:56
So I assumed it was that guy and I made a joke about it, and I
1:14:01
shouldn't have made a joke about it because I didn't know that
1:14:03
Charlie was not going to be OK. And then I saw them.
1:14:06
Actually, the reason I felt bad is I saw the video.
1:14:09
Not even that when he got announced, I saw the video and I
1:14:12
was like, Oh my God, I, I can't. There's no joke to be made about
1:14:15
this. I'm supposed to be on a show
1:14:17
tonight to be funny. And then you messaged and said
1:14:21
the same fucking thing basically as what are we even going to do?
1:14:24
It's not exactly comedy night over here.
1:14:30
Yeah, I mean. Like, people do want to know
1:14:33
what you have to say about things, so.
1:14:36
Yeah, I mean and I mean. Sing it live on air.
1:14:39
I hope people enjoy or can maybe grieve with us.
1:14:45
I guess because it is. Yeah, I.
1:14:47
No mistake. I I, I hope that, like even if
1:14:51
you guys aren't I, I hope that even if you guys aren't enjoying
1:14:56
the show because let's be honest, this, you know, I hope,
1:15:00
though, like, as cliche as this may seem, what my goals of doing
1:15:07
the show has always been to, I guess help people in some, you
1:15:14
know, way. And I hope that for whatever
1:15:19
it's worth, I'm helping someone out there.
1:15:23
Maybe even if you're wasn't. Even if you're, even if you're
1:15:30
listening to this the day after. Just like, if you're, if you do
1:15:40
feel, you know, hopeless out there, feel free to reach out on
1:15:44
Twitter, say what up to me, DM me, you know, and, and like,
1:15:48
because yeah, this is going to be a tough.
1:15:51
Look, I know a bunch of young guys from TPUSA is all I'm
1:15:55
saying. And I know for a fact that they
1:15:58
are going to be way more heartbroken than the general
1:16:01
populace. And all I can offer is a
1:16:07
sympathetic ear. But if you need it, you know,
1:16:12
because this is this is, this is the kind, this is a generational
1:16:18
tragedy, Sam. I don't know how else to put it.
1:16:21
Yeah, the last. Time that the political
1:16:25
assassinations like this occurred, it's considered a, you
1:16:29
know, historic period and a lot of change happened and it was
1:16:34
very similar. That's why I say the late 60s.
1:16:37
It's Pope. See the woke, they were right.
1:16:40
The woke period was there 656667.
1:16:46
But guess what, Sam Charles Manson's out there now.
1:16:50
It's 69. The summer of love is dead.
1:16:55
Son of Sam's about to show up. Both the Canadians are dead, and
1:17:01
both Martin Luther King and Malcolm X are about to be shot.
1:17:05
That's where we're at in the fucking timeline of these
1:17:07
people. And I'm telling you, what
1:17:10
happened next in that timeline is that everybody except for
1:17:14
Massachusetts voted for fucking Nixon to put a stop to it.
1:17:17
All the riots, the violence, all of it.
1:17:21
People voted to stop it and they will do so again.
1:17:25
And you know what? Like since the lots is so
1:17:28
fucking afraid of JD Vance, fuck it, I'm going to endorse fans
1:17:34
right now. I know, I know, we're a few
1:17:36
fucking years ahead. But I've said it before, I am
1:17:40
impressed as hell with my with the VP.
1:17:44
And if he's the one that these wackos are afraid of, certainly,
1:17:50
let's go. At the time we're speaking like
1:17:53
no doubt about it, and realistically the campaign
1:17:57
starts in about a year, so we'll know pretty soon.
1:18:02
Also, like I keep hearing out the, I keep hearing out this
1:18:07
blue wave for the midterms. You know, I think that's, I
1:18:16
think that just got fucking cancelled.
1:18:19
You know, Sam, I have a feeling that the wave that's coming
1:18:23
isn't necessarily blue or red. It's kind of purple.
1:18:27
But you know what? It's weird, Sam.
1:18:29
The wave, It's shaped like a cross.
1:18:33
Yeah. Well, I'm serious.
1:18:39
Like I know a lot of people who aren't very political but are
1:18:43
religious who feel like enough's enough.
1:18:45
They've put up with enough bullshit.
1:18:49
Yeah. Having faith is not a crime.
1:18:58
No, they it sure as hell feels like it sometimes.
1:19:03
I tell you what I told you. The temperature's rising.
1:19:08
I get handed a book about how Catholics are the devil, you
1:19:12
know, I mean, I, I, I feel that temperature rising.
1:19:15
And maybe it's not, it's not just against Catholics too, but
1:19:18
there is a, there's an anti Catholic sentiment, there's an
1:19:21
anti Christian sentiment. Hell, there's an anti-Semitic
1:19:23
sentiment in this country. Now everybody's faith is under
1:19:27
the fucking scrutiny of somebody hates you for having it.
1:19:31
And I thought that this country was founded, that you could have
1:19:34
whatever fucking faith you wanted.
1:19:37
Except the faith. That faith will go left.
1:19:41
Yeah, and yet. And yet.
1:19:42
And yet this weird fucking. Woke bullshit religion.
1:19:48
And yet this weird fucking woke cult, That's what it fucking is.
1:19:53
It's a cult. See, the left will go to.
1:19:57
It's not. Crazy to have faith Sam in a
1:20:00
book that's been the basis of faith.
1:20:06
For close to 3000 years total if you include the Torah as the Old
1:20:10
Testament that has been the faith of generations and
1:20:15
generations of people. It is not a crime to fucking
1:20:17
believe this book is not something worthy of a death
1:20:23
sentence in front of an audience.
1:20:25
We do not live in some hedonistic fucking barbarian
1:20:29
town. We live in the United States of
1:20:31
America in the year of our Lord 2025.
1:20:36
Heads need to roll for this. Justice needs to be served.
1:20:45
Actual fucking justice needs to be served.
1:20:50
Well, Trump seems pretty, you know, I, I, like I said, I've, I
1:20:59
was amazed how. I wanted a president to say at a
1:21:02
time like this. Yes.
1:21:08
Then he, on the morbid part, focused on what needs to be done
1:21:13
and gave a very eloquent eulogy for Charlie.
1:21:19
Yeah, and I and I know people like are.
1:21:23
Going to ate that word in my throat, Sam, because we
1:21:26
shouldn't be talking about a eulogy for somebody 10 years
1:21:29
younger than me. Yeah, I know it's.
1:21:39
You know, send, send your thoughts and support and, and
1:21:42
prayers to his family especially.
1:21:44
But I think that, you know, it's as hard as this is, they do have
1:21:48
a lot of support out there. Yeah, people, people have also
1:22:02
asked who's going to, you know, take over for Turning Point.
1:22:09
I don't know like. A little fucking soon, guys.
1:22:15
I I I well, I understand, I understand why people are, I
1:22:19
understand why people are curious, right?
1:22:22
I I. It's not even been 8 hours since
1:22:27
he was declared his past. That's why we haven't talked
1:22:33
much about the incident itself, right?
1:22:37
Because it's too soon. We're talking about the
1:22:40
ramifications of it, but we're we're not talking about the
1:22:43
incident because it's only been a few hours.
1:22:45
And I understand that that's people's natural curiosity or
1:22:48
whatever, but my God, this is not just some fucking news
1:22:51
story. This was a human being.
1:22:54
Those people at TT USA are still grieving.
1:22:58
Well, not he's not a. Mother to almost all of them, at
1:23:01
least. Well, not just that too, but
1:23:05
like, we don't even know the full details of what's going on
1:23:12
going on. But folks, that that's, that's
1:23:16
my, that's my point. This is literal breaking news.
1:23:21
We don't know. We don't even know a full story
1:23:23
yet. It's like earlier somebody at
1:23:27
the event at the university showed a screenshot.
1:23:31
They got a rude political question from a reporter
1:23:37
basically saying, oh, now that he's been shot there, do you
1:23:40
think his advocation of gun right?
1:23:42
Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, something like that.
1:23:44
And he replies, He replies, I just learned 23 minutes ago that
1:23:49
the Charlie Kirk is dead. I've got a lot going on here.
1:23:52
I don't need political bullshit. Gotcha questions.
1:23:57
And by the way, by the way, if they want to fucking do that,
1:24:00
that's how you need to respond. Now.
1:24:03
Why did people play their game? Like pretend like they're acting
1:24:06
in good faith when they're not? Tell them the fuck off.
1:24:12
Oh, but he advocated guns, so he should like this.
1:24:16
Shut the fuck up with that disingenuous bullshit.
1:24:22
Kill yourself. Yeah.
1:24:27
I mean in a video game what you need to do well.
1:24:39
In a video game, take a short walk off a pier.
1:24:43
Well, we're we're not. We're not.
1:24:45
We're not on YouTube. Oh, thank God.
1:24:48
OK, Google the helium method you sick fox.
1:24:55
No, I, I listen, we listen. I knew listen.
1:25:02
I I knew that like YouTube was, you know, might not have been
1:25:10
the the place for this. My phone is the camera, but it
1:25:19
heard me and it it looked up the helium method.
1:25:22
That's very funny. That is funny.
1:25:31
I I can't blame him. I can't believe him.
1:25:33
I'm about to say this but like dude.
1:25:41
She just read what the helium method was.
1:25:44
Was half discussed. Half.
1:25:46
Humor. If dude, if Hassan, if Hassan
1:25:50
Piker and and Nick Fuentes are being more respectful of
1:25:57
Charlie's passing. To be fair.
1:26:00
Then. I will give Nick this.
1:26:03
He knows the seriousness. We might have, you know, made
1:26:07
light of it. But I, I did.
1:26:08
Even last week, I pointed this out.
1:26:10
A man went to his house and then that man later murdered two
1:26:15
people and his intent was apparently to harm Fuentes.
1:26:20
Now, I don't like Fuentes. I think he's a piece of shit.
1:26:24
Everything he stands for is fake.
1:26:26
However, political violence against him is bad too.
1:26:32
No, but like he, but he. Stands it because he was
1:26:36
threatened with it a couple months ago.
1:26:39
So of course he's going. To be respectful because he
1:26:41
knows that could have been him. Yes, and he.
1:26:45
Was. By the way, it shouldn't be.
1:26:47
He can say all the stupid shit he wants in my book.
1:26:50
We just make fun of him for it. Talk about his stupid girl
1:26:54
punches. Yes, my, my point is, is like he
1:26:58
is, he's been, you know, he took a night, he took a night off
1:27:02
from his show tonight and told people to, you know, pray for
1:27:05
Tara's family. I just want to point that out
1:27:08
because, like, yeah, as much as I, you know, as much as we made
1:27:13
fun of him and like, you know, like criticize him, like even
1:27:17
he, you know, is being right. A decent, a decent human, that's
1:27:24
all. That's all.
1:27:24
We're fine. There's a line in the sand for
1:27:27
me. Are you a psycho?
1:27:30
And the line is real simple. Can't you just admit that this
1:27:33
is an awful tragedy? If you cannot, then I don't
1:27:36
think there's anything more for us to ever fucking argue about
1:27:39
or communicate about. All you have to do is say this
1:27:42
is bad. Easy.
1:27:46
If you can't say that, I think you're a psychopath.
1:27:49
And they'll say, oh, what about the school shootings?
1:27:55
And I'll say, yeah, I've pointed out they're bad every single
1:27:58
fucking time. You won't find people violence
1:28:03
that I endorse, as a matter of fact.
1:28:08
No, this is going to be going to be said.
1:28:11
Fuck Sucker Punch. Nevermind.
1:28:12
Not. Political.
1:28:18
What about? What about Sucker Punch More?
1:28:23
Senior devil of soccer Soccer punch productions celebrates
1:28:28
Charlie Kirk stuff Fuck soccer Soccer punch.
1:28:34
Well, I'm not buying any games. Nobody.
1:28:37
The fucking I'm not. You know.
1:28:43
Jesus. I'm Nah, I can't do taking the
1:28:46
Lord's name in vain. I apologize.
1:28:50
They got me all fucked up. Sam do.
1:28:52
You remember my like crazy drunk ex aunt in Vermont?
1:28:59
I don't know if they fully heard that, but yes I remember your
1:29:02
crazy ex aunt drunk in Vermont. Even she.
1:29:08
Is. Saying how horrible it is what
1:29:11
happened to Charlie Kirk and she's not a very good person.
1:29:14
Yeah, I mean, I actually, I actually walked by some guys
1:29:19
over and over in the hood. They got like this cool little
1:29:22
setup where their deck is and they got like a big screen out
1:29:27
there with a cooler and shit. They watch sports games.
1:29:30
I walk by them all the time, you know, and usually they're having
1:29:34
fun watching sports games, but tonight they were crying and
1:29:38
talking about Charlie Kirk. I ran into a couple people
1:29:43
crying as I walked on my way. I had to go for a walk.
1:29:46
I told you that, Sam. That's why I was like maybe a
1:29:49
couple minutes late for when we scheduled because I was like, I
1:29:52
got to clear my head. Yeah, I mean, you know, we, we
1:30:03
kind of we, we kind of started, you know, essentially like at
1:30:07
our normal time. I've just been, like I said,
1:30:14
I've kind of looking at like DMS and whatnot from people.
1:30:17
Well, we're, well, we're here. I mean, like I'm to the people
1:30:24
reaching out to me. Like, I am humbled that you
1:30:28
would, you know, think to reach out to me as like a thought
1:30:31
leader or whatever during this time.
1:30:35
But like I, I'm just as confused and angry as the rest of you.
1:30:42
Well, but that's exactly why Sam is like, because you're
1:30:45
channeling what what everybody else is feeling.
1:30:49
It's we are confused. And I think a lot of people want
1:30:52
to know where to go next. And the answer is to bed and
1:30:58
face tomorrow. That's it.
1:31:01
Like there is no long term answer yet because we got to
1:31:04
see, you know, the the implications of everything.
1:31:08
It's too soon to know where things are going, but we can
1:31:15
stay the course and as hard as it is, not be scared of these
1:31:21
people because that's the ultimate goal.
1:31:26
That that's the other reason why I want why I wanted to do a show
1:31:31
tonight too, is like, I feel like I feel like there were
1:31:35
people who would expect us not to say anything, but no, we're
1:31:42
we're hearing the and the other thing is as as you and Maxine
1:31:47
said before the show, you know, Charlie was a good guy.
1:31:52
He always seemed to have a smile on his face.
1:31:54
And so you want to know, like, you know, how to honor his
1:32:00
memory. You know, keep on being happy
1:32:04
war warriors I. Think, I think another sentiment
1:32:13
might apply also, the sentiment Trump had when maybe he thought
1:32:17
he was about to die in the same exact way.
1:32:19
He said fight, fight, fight. Yeah, I feel that if Charlie had
1:32:26
a chance, and he probably had done the same thing because it's
1:32:30
the one message you can get across in those few seconds, But
1:32:34
I don't think he would tell us to stop or give up.
1:32:40
I know he wouldn't. Yeah, no CC would tell us to,
1:32:53
you know, keep on going. I'm sure there's plenty of
1:33:01
capable people in TP USA that somebody will come and, you
1:33:06
know, sort of fill that position rather than take over.
1:33:11
I don't think anybody can replace Charlie Kirk and I think
1:33:14
that they all know that too. That's why I don't think they
1:33:16
would have an answer yet. They haven't even probably
1:33:19
talked about it. They're still probably crying.
1:33:24
Yeah. Well, well, like, well, like I
1:33:29
said, Max, I mean, this was, this was a college.
1:33:36
I mean, nobody ever thought that a college like organization
1:33:41
would be targeted like this. Well, you know, I just want to.
1:33:47
They they talk about targeting Nazis, right?
1:33:51
But I've said this before. I, I was saying this to my wife
1:33:54
earlier, but Richard Spencer is fine.
1:33:59
Mike Pinovich is fine. Christopher Cantwell is fine.
1:34:03
Where where where you killed Charlie Kirk and not the actual
1:34:08
Nazis? Huh.
1:34:09
Yeah, Charlie Kirk isn't isn't the Nazi here.
1:34:11
Fuckers. Not even close.
1:34:15
Hated Nazis as much as you did. I mean.
1:34:21
He did. He hated Nazis as much.
1:34:23
Yeah, yeah. I mean, even like even at even
1:34:31
Alex Jones was like shocked by it, by this.
1:34:34
Like Alex Jones has said before that like, you know, he's he's
1:34:41
always been cautious because he know, he knows he's
1:34:43
controversial, you know, and so that's why he travels with
1:34:47
protection. Like same with Glenn Beck.
1:34:49
Like they know they're controversial.
1:34:51
They know that, you know, there's a chance that someone
1:34:53
could take a shot at them. I think that's, I think that's
1:34:56
the other thing is like Charlie Koch was so, you know, affable
1:35:04
and, you know, well, like. And he's been doing it for years
1:35:09
in a very public way, sitting right for anybody to come up and
1:35:13
talk to him. That's why it's so God damn
1:35:16
cowardly. Yeah, but but then we
1:35:29
automatically start to think, oh, that maybe we shouldn't have
1:35:31
events like that. But I don't know.
1:35:34
I don't think he would change his mind.
1:35:37
Have more events? I think he would say have more,
1:35:43
but I don't know about everybody else there is.
1:35:48
It's OK to be afraid. Some people are going to go
1:35:51
underground, so to speak, Sam. Some people are going to be
1:35:55
scared by this and that's OK too.
1:35:59
I don't think I can be. I don't think I can back.
1:36:01
Off. I think this fucking pisses me
1:36:05
off. It it it pisses me off too.
1:36:13
Yeah. I wouldn't get stuck in the dirt
1:36:15
if I went underground. Had to try.
1:36:22
Also, it brings up the obvious point.
1:36:26
Everybody's talking about taking away anonymity on the Internet,
1:36:31
but this is exactly why that is dangerous.
1:36:35
Charlie was never anonymous. Sure, right.
1:36:39
But that's exactly why they knew where to go and where to do and
1:36:42
what all this shit. That's why they could make a
1:36:44
plan. And when they're doxing people
1:36:46
and de anonymizing them, it turns out people get targeted
1:36:50
for violence. They get targeted for swattings,
1:36:53
which is a form of violence and attempted murder.
1:36:57
We knew this kind of thing would escalate to this.
1:37:00
Of course it would. They're losing power and they
1:37:03
can't take it and it's a hissy fit, but it needs to stop now.
1:37:09
We can't lose another Goodman like Charlie Kurt before we
1:37:13
reign this in. If you want to openly celebrate
1:37:20
political violence on your public profile, I think it's
1:37:23
fair game that the FBI should come talk to you.
1:37:27
Agreed. I mean people.
1:37:33
I mean, people were being investigated for saying that
1:37:37
they didn't like Obama. Yeah.
1:37:41
This is a this is a famous story from the, the old school days
1:37:44
with smooly. But we had a guy, he got
1:37:47
arrested on some kind of drug deal and told the cops that he
1:37:52
could be an informant on political extremists.
1:37:55
And it was just us having the same kind of chats we always do.
1:37:58
And so he, he got absolutely nowhere with us and probably
1:38:04
ended up in jail because he didn't get us on, like, because
1:38:07
he was trying to like you guys told me the secret plan and
1:38:11
we're like, what fucking secret plan, retard?
1:38:13
The secret plan is we're going to go on a show on the Internet
1:38:18
and say things in public. Idiot secret plan.
1:38:26
So yeah, he got nothing from it. But that's The thing is they
1:38:30
literally at one point we're targeting random podcasts of
1:38:33
dudes talking about, like, economics.
1:38:37
Yeah, they should target people celebrating political violence.
1:38:41
Yeah. I want.
1:38:43
The door knocked on too. I want their door knocked.
1:38:49
Even in the even in the, you know, even in the time that I've
1:38:53
known you, Max and more this like we have we as a group have
1:38:59
like, you know, I'm not going to name names like we've
1:39:03
disassociated with people who. Facts.
1:39:06
Were were like doing weird political stuff.
1:39:12
Yeah, I I banned somebody a year or so ago for making threats
1:39:18
specifically. Yeah.
1:39:19
He had made threats that I felt were too specific and I said,
1:39:23
look man, you can't hang out here no more.
1:39:26
Yeah, like I don't want to like I don't want to have.
1:39:29
Threats were coming from a right wing position.
1:39:32
But it doesn't matter to me, right?
1:39:35
I don't want. Right.
1:39:36
Yeah, we are. In my fucking country, stop it
1:39:40
enough. We don't tolerate violence.
1:39:46
Because because the state has this thing, Sam, libertarians
1:39:50
love this expression. I feel like conservatives need
1:39:54
to understand it. It's called the state has a Say
1:39:57
it with me monopoly on violence. You don't get to use violence if
1:40:06
you live in a country with a state.
1:40:08
The state decides who gets to use violence.
1:40:12
Seems the left has forgotten that.
1:40:20
And. We should use the tools of the
1:40:22
state to suppress the violence of the non state actors
1:40:26
committing reckless acts of terrorism.
1:40:29
That means, yes, knocking some doors down, looking on some
1:40:33
people's fucking hard drives, locking some other fuckers up,
1:40:36
and yeah, putting lots of fucking boomers into psychiatric
1:40:40
wards for the shit that they post.
1:40:49
We'll put them all in together, they can all watch old fucking
1:40:52
boomer fucking television from the 60s and fucking be happy,
1:40:56
right? Pretty much well, but like.
1:41:05
Don't worry. Don't.
1:41:06
Worry that you're locked up here.
1:41:08
Here's Adam West as Batman. He'll be like boomers will be
1:41:12
like, OK Pastor Oatmeal, I'll take my pills.
1:41:21
Hey, man. And the fucking what's a what's
1:41:25
a Western from that era? Lone Ranger.
1:41:30
Lone Ranger, Gunsmoke and and a bunch of boomer sitcoms, right?
1:41:37
Just pick a bunch boomer sitcom and just actually, you know
1:41:41
what? They have this channel.
1:41:43
You ever heard of ME TV? Yeah.
1:41:45
Yeah. So we put the boomers, all the
1:41:47
boomers who advocate violence or celebrate it, we put them into
1:41:51
these asylums and we just run ME TV 24/7 while they take their
1:41:55
pills. They'll be happy.
1:41:59
Society will be safe from them. Common sense boomer control.
1:42:05
Not all, not all boomers celebrate violence, Sam.
1:42:10
In fact, most of them don't. So if you're that boomer, that's
1:42:13
like, worried. Oh, Max, are you talking about
1:42:15
me? Are you celebrating the death of
1:42:17
Charlie Kirk? Probably not, then probably not.
1:42:21
Just the one my. We get them their oatmeal, we
1:42:24
get them their Twinkies, we'll feed them spam sandwiches for
1:42:30
lunch. And nobody needs to ever know a
1:42:33
password again, Sam, because they won't be allowed on the
1:42:35
Internet. My my stepdad was like, I, I've,
1:42:44
I've never seen him. Well I've I've only like.
1:42:50
Actually, am I making jokes or am I serious?
1:42:53
I'm not even sure anymore. Maybe both I I saw my I saw my
1:43:00
stepdad. Have have you seen?
1:43:02
Have you ever seen like a dog look dejected, Max Yep.
1:43:08
Or just like that's that's how my stepdad like when I told him
1:43:13
that Charlie Couric was. My wife went to bed and was not
1:43:21
feeling so hot this afternoon and I had to wake her up to tell
1:43:27
her because I was afraid she would wake up and see the video.
1:43:32
And like I said, Sam, she on her own found Charlie Kirk and she
1:43:37
watched his videos all the fucking time.
1:43:40
All the fucking time. Nothing to do with me.
1:43:44
I didn't show her that. She's like, hey, have you ever
1:43:46
heard of Charlie Kirk? And I was like, well, actually,
1:43:49
yeah, I have. Me and Sam have even talked
1:43:50
about it on the show, Sam. And before Shmuley's done some
1:43:54
stuff with with looking into TPUSA, Yeah, I'm familiar.
1:43:59
And he's like, oh, I really like his videos.
1:44:01
He makes a lot of good points and he's very, you know, nice
1:44:06
and all this stuff. And then to see what happened
1:44:08
today, all I could think is, my God, if she wakes up and sees
1:44:12
that video, she's just going to be traumatized.
1:44:15
So I have to at least prepare her out of a dead sleep when she
1:44:19
doesn't feel good. So, yeah, I I know exactly what
1:44:22
you mean, Sam. It must be what it was like
1:44:25
rumors to talk about when Kennedy or any of those other
1:44:29
assassinations happened, huh? He.
1:44:33
I certainly won't be there. I was.
1:44:37
No, oddly enough, I oddly enough, I was in the exact same
1:44:47
room that I was when I heard that someone tried to take out
1:44:51
Trump. I was out on the road walking
1:44:59
for that one. This one, I actually just woke
1:45:04
up my son. Like, we both don't feel good
1:45:08
because the weather change, you know, you get a little down.
1:45:11
And so I slept in a lot. Hey.
1:45:13
She slipped in. And then when I woke up and saw
1:45:16
my phone, I was like, oh, my God, Twitter's gone nuts.
1:45:18
What's going on? And it said Charlie Kirk now,
1:45:21
again, this was like right after he'd gotten shot and the news
1:45:26
come out and it said Charlie Kirk had been shot.
1:45:30
And I was like, Oh my God, well, he'll be OK, you know, pray,
1:45:34
pray for him, you know, and, and everybody at the time, that's
1:45:37
what they were all saying. And then I saw the video and I
1:45:42
was like, oh, I don't, I don't think he'll be OK.
1:45:45
But it wasn't until Trump's tweet that I kind of had to be,
1:45:50
I had to acknowledge it. And then I immediately went up
1:45:53
and woke her up because if she found out on her own, she was
1:45:57
going to see the video too 100%. I.
1:46:04
I saw the, I saw the video Max and then Evan, friend of the
1:46:11
show posted in his discord that Charles was, had been like was
1:46:23
officially dead. And I, I was kind of like, well,
1:46:27
it's just one tweet. Maybe, you know, maybe it's just
1:46:30
like an alarmist, that type of thing, you know, you hope and.
1:46:43
And it's really only been a couple hours since then.
1:46:47
Yeah, but by the way, like nothing but nothing but but
1:46:53
respect. I mean, the fact that Evan was
1:46:56
the one who had to break the news to, you know, me into like
1:47:00
us and like, you know, that's not, well, easy to do and.
1:47:09
He's a, he's the right guy to do such thing.
1:47:11
Evan's a good dude and. Yeah, it's like.
1:47:16
It's like I said I wanted my wife to hear it from me rather
1:47:19
than maybe like I was worried she'd go on TikTok because I
1:47:24
have a feeling half a TikTok will be mean.
1:47:27
I don't even want to speculate to what they might say but I had
1:47:30
a feeling she'd go on there and see a video and then be laughing
1:47:33
or something and I was like Oh my God.
1:47:35
And then she'll just lose her mind.
1:47:37
Yeah, I thought I had to. I didn't want to tell you why
1:47:41
that you ever think you want to break news like that to
1:47:43
somebody. I would I would I would advise
1:47:51
to to stay off Facebook and TikTok for the next few.
1:48:02
Oh, she already was. She was sitting here and she
1:48:05
just looked at her phone and she was like, can't go on Facebook.
1:48:11
Yeah. And I don't imagine TikTok will
1:48:14
be much better, she said. She's not even going to open it.
1:48:20
Even Twitter. Here's my problem with Twitter.
1:48:25
It's not the people with the talking about the events,
1:48:28
talking about the implications. It's the people loving to show
1:48:32
in everybody's face, all the people celebrating.
1:48:37
I don't want to see that. Actually.
1:48:40
I know they're doing it. If you want to bring attention
1:48:43
to law enforcement that's fine, but I think wallowing in all the
1:48:47
horrible things the left is saying about an event that they
1:48:50
caused is not good for your mental health.
1:48:54
No, it's. That's that's my sense.
1:48:59
It's not that well. That's why I like I.
1:49:04
Gore is repeated I. Action.
1:49:06
Footage, by the way, that also is not good for your mental
1:49:10
health. It's proven.
1:49:12
That we've. Been looking at gore in actual
1:49:16
videos of people being harmed or killed is bad for your mental
1:49:20
health so yeah. Can I can I just say to like
1:49:26
this might seem off top, this might seem off topic, but it's
1:49:31
not like does anyone else feel like like people's like brains
1:49:39
got like fucked up or scrambled that like after COVID?
1:49:43
I I feel like, I feel like the COVID lockdowns like just yes
1:49:48
after that, like what? Could the 'cause we definitely
1:49:51
have a mental health crisis? That's nothing like I've ever
1:49:55
seen in my life. I I'm not saying that there
1:50:00
weren't issues before, but like it, but it, it, it feels like,
1:50:05
it feels like something changed like, well, I wouldn't.
1:50:12
Say it could be several things is it could be the isolation
1:50:15
that people felt, it could be the polarization, it could be
1:50:19
online this it could be the fucking vaccines to some degree.
1:50:23
It could be something else entirely as well, right?
1:50:28
Maybe it's AI, maybe it's the price of tea in China, maybe
1:50:32
there's a bunch of factors we don't fucking know about, but it
1:50:35
does seem like people we're sort of nuts.
1:50:42
The reason I say that, Sam, is I went to Straight Fry.
1:50:45
I got the sign right there still five years ago, right before
1:50:50
COVID, and those people tried to harm us then.
1:50:57
Right. They tried to jump the barricade
1:51:00
to physically fucking assault us and then got stopped by the
1:51:04
cops. There's been a clear escalation
1:51:07
of this kind of behavior before COVID, which is why I don't want
1:51:11
to just say it was COVID. Oh, it definitely wasn't just
1:51:15
COVID, but it does. COVID helps unfortunately.
1:51:18
Because I don't know. I'm not.
1:51:19
Old Sam and I said the same thing I've been saying all day.
1:51:22
I said God. Loves you and they looked like a
1:51:27
bunch of demons in reaction to it.
1:51:28
I have a video somewhere it's insane.
1:51:32
She's she's seen it. They go the fuck?
1:51:39
I was scared. At first I thought it was.
1:51:41
Funny I. Did that.
1:51:43
I was like holy shit. It's like a sea of demons.
1:51:52
And then they started chanting, Boston hates you.
1:51:54
And I was like, well, I don't know they.
1:51:56
Don't like you very much? Either so also we're the hateful
1:52:02
ones. That was the thing the whole
1:52:04
time. There's like we did the.
1:52:06
Charlie Kirk kind of thing, and I don't remember if he was even
1:52:09
I think he might have been at straight Pride, but I'm not
1:52:12
sure. I know a bunch of people were
1:52:14
that spoke and a bunch of people from TPUSA were there.
1:52:17
So it's not that crazy. It wasn't a TPUSA event, but it
1:52:21
would, you know, it was the same kind of vibes.
1:52:23
We came and we talked about tradition.
1:52:26
They there was people that talked about traditional
1:52:29
marriage. There was people that talked
1:52:31
about it's OK to be straight. And then somebody did a Bible
1:52:37
reading and then actually G Notes Justice did a live
1:52:41
performance of his fucking a bunch of his rap songs.
1:52:45
And then Milo gave a speech, right?
1:52:48
And and that was enough. For them to act like.
1:52:51
Insane people. Even Vermin Supreme.
1:52:54
There's footage of me confronting that fucker because,
1:52:57
like, he should have been on our side, but he was like, yeah, but
1:53:00
you Nazi fascists as I'm like, boomers, boomers brains, Sam.
1:53:09
I don't think it's just COVID, Sam.
1:53:11
I think the boomers brains. Are the way they are because.
1:53:15
Of how much lead was in the atmosphere when the most of
1:53:18
their life. I don't yeah.
1:53:21
I don't think you're raw. I don't think you're wrong on
1:53:23
that. Like there's so many boomer
1:53:25
serial. Killers.
1:53:26
It's also why there's so many. Boomer geniuses.
1:53:28
It's also why there's so many. Boomer weird pedo rapists and,
1:53:33
you know, people that ate bodies and shit, all this weird
1:53:38
behavior associated with the boomer generation and.
1:53:41
They're the only they're. Two things.
1:53:43
They're two things. They are the most prosperous
1:53:46
generation in human history with the most privilege, at least
1:53:50
American boomers. And they were completely fucking
1:53:55
filled with lead from the moment they were born until about 1979.
1:54:04
Now, I'm not saying all boomers are.
1:54:07
Retarded or crazy, but I am saying.
1:54:10
That the craziest ones, like a Dahmer, right?
1:54:14
We're probably already a crazy violent fuck, but then that
1:54:17
little lead made him like, eat people, you know?
1:54:22
I know that, like, technically Jim Morrison.
1:54:26
Was a boomer, but if you've watched any interviews with him,
1:54:31
he kind of hated baby boomers. Well, like if you look, I, I
1:54:39
don't know. I've I've read his poetry like
1:54:42
Jim. Morrison I kind of like.
1:54:43
Right. And it's because yeah, we we, he
1:54:45
was the we've talked to how how much?
1:54:48
One in five, Yeah, of the one. No, he.
1:54:54
He. There was an art, there was an
1:54:58
interview. He did with the Canadian with
1:55:00
like this. The Canadian broadcasting.
1:55:02
Company like in 1970, I actually wrote about on my sub stack
1:55:07
about like how he said that. Like he said that like, you
1:55:12
know, the young people you know today, he meant the boomers back
1:55:16
then. They're all, they're all sucked
1:55:19
in by the television and they're all programmed by the radios.
1:55:23
They're all boring. Well, but then you kind of
1:55:27
indulge the other side of the problem, which is the ones we're
1:55:30
seeing today. That are the most crazy on
1:55:33
average are the ones that not just the lead, not just the
1:55:36
television, not just the commercialism, not just the
1:55:40
subliminal messaging, but also the LSD and the POD and the
1:55:45
magic mushrooms and the mescaline and the heroin and the
1:55:49
fucking cocaine and the dude. What generation has done more
1:55:53
drugs than the boomers? And it's the boomer drug when
1:55:57
hippies now that are the biggest fucking problem to us, even the
1:55:59
ones that turn themselves into billionaires.
1:56:02
Which which funny? Which funny you should say that
1:56:05
because it ain't your working class boomer.
1:56:08
Granddad, is all I'm saying to you young folks out there that
1:56:12
are. Like my boomers?
1:56:13
Not like that. Yeah, I had a lot.
1:56:15
Dude, I'm reading from my father in law's Bible.
1:56:17
He's a boomer. Not all boomers are the worst
1:56:19
thing ever, but there's a certain boomer insanity that we
1:56:25
all. Should just admit is there.
1:56:28
Like that, on average, talking to boomers can sometimes be
1:56:33
like. Talking to an.
1:56:34
Alien. Yeah, they have all these
1:56:38
ingrown beliefs. That they don't even explain and
1:56:43
they. Have in jokes and memes from
1:56:46
like 1953 that aren't memes anymore.
1:56:49
It's just the thing they keep saying because they saw it on
1:56:51
TV, right? Yeah, and they don't realize
1:56:57
that. That's fucking weird.
1:56:58
To us that. Don't have the?
1:57:00
Same frame. Of reference and by the way, as
1:57:02
a millennial, most of us are their kids and we don't even
1:57:06
understand them. It's like speaking fucking
1:57:10
Chinese. It's literally Will Smith
1:57:12
telling. You parents don't understand.
1:57:14
Only we've grown up and the parents still don't fucking
1:57:17
understand. Yeah, now that we understand
1:57:22
what it's like to be parents, we're.
1:57:23
Like wait a. Minute.
1:57:26
Y'all were retarded. What the fuck did you do to us?
1:57:33
And that's even the good. Ones, in a lot of cases, you're
1:57:35
still like, what? The fuck?
1:57:36
Why would you feed me this garbage?
1:57:40
I love with the. But man, and then.
1:57:44
That, I guess that's The thing, is like Charlie was.
1:57:47
Leading the youth. Movement to a lot of
1:57:49
conservative values. And that's what his biggest
1:57:52
value to all of us was, right? One of his, one of his, one of
1:57:58
Charlie Cook's final interviews. That he did with with Tucker
1:58:05
Carlson was actually like, criticizing.
1:58:09
The Boomers. And what are you like?
1:58:13
Everything that Charlie was saying is stuff.
1:58:16
That like. You were say that like you said
1:58:21
like a year before on. This show.
1:58:25
Yeah, I mean, the guy was not only a fellow traveller.
1:58:30
As we've said, but a prolific one, one of the better species
1:58:35
of his generation, certainly. How many other millennials out
1:58:40
there have made as much an impact in the world as as he did
1:58:45
just by speaking? Very few, if any, very few.
1:58:51
And he? Was only 31 years old, 10.
1:58:54
Years younger than myself, Which?
1:58:55
Is an absolute. Tragedy that those two young
1:58:58
children are going to not have their father there now.
1:59:01
I, I don't want to be, you know, negative about it.
1:59:07
I I think that they'll be OK. Again, there's a lot of
1:59:09
community. Support for them and I'm sure
1:59:12
that, you know, we'll get therapy and all the things that
1:59:16
they need to to go forward in life, but it's still a a, a
1:59:22
family missing a father sized hole.
1:59:26
Well. From what from.
1:59:27
What I understand his father at that well.
1:59:31
From what I understand. His children are extremely
1:59:33
young. So they're both.
1:59:36
Under four years old, so it might not.
1:59:40
Have it, might not. Traumatize.
1:59:42
Them, but I will. I will say this, having it will
1:59:46
though it will the lack of a father will.
1:59:49
The video is yes stop. Sharing that fucking.
1:59:52
Video guys, we get it. Well, yeah.
1:59:55
That that's. That's what I'm, that's what
1:59:58
that's what I was going to say like.
2:00:01
Growing up with that is going to be a fucking I can't even put
2:00:09
into words. Yeah, Roman.
2:00:12
In chat says. He says they killed him.
2:00:16
And then he. Says I didn't think Charlie
2:00:18
deserved that for talking and having an opinion in politics.
2:00:22
And yeah, it's that simple, right?
2:00:24
If you disagree with that statement, then there's not
2:00:27
really much for us to talk about because you think that
2:00:30
disagreement means violence. If you think that disagreement
2:00:33
means you're it's OK for you to be violent, then I think you
2:00:37
should be locked up. The less the less argument.
2:00:43
That words are violence. Is.
2:00:45
Fucking. Bullshit.
2:00:50
Unless it's their words and KK. Revenue jet.
2:00:55
Says hi Sam Hope. You are well.
2:00:59
Hey Kay, I sent I I did send Jed the link.
2:01:04
Via his Twitter DMS to join Rumble if he wanted to if he
2:01:14
wants to join. So I don't know.
2:01:18
Yeah, that'd be great, I'm sure. I don't know how, I don't know
2:01:22
how. Much longer we'll be on.
2:01:23
Here I I don't really. I don't really have any plans to
2:01:27
quit, but like I don't, I don't really know, like we didn't have
2:01:31
any plans. And I guess that's kind of thing
2:01:33
is like, I don't know really where we go.
2:01:36
From here even. Like during the.
2:01:38
During the show, like I I know at some point, like we would use
2:01:41
to promote the book, but like, I don't even feel like doing that
2:01:44
really. Yeah, You know, Jed's here.
2:01:51
I think. He, I think he's on mute or
2:01:54
whatever. Oh, oh, cool.
2:01:58
Yeah. OK, You guys can.
2:02:00
Hear me? Jed's here.
2:02:01
Yeah, we can hear you, OK. OK, Yeah.
2:02:04
I, I, I I had to bounce. Over to another. 1.
2:02:08
And they were like. Dude, you need to come.
2:02:10
Over like, I'm like, OK, so yeah, many people knew I was up.
2:02:16
Yeah, it was. Like they were hammering me with
2:02:19
a lot of stuff and I was like, so I had to make a few calls and
2:02:23
a bunch of other stuff. So yeah.
2:02:26
Reasonable, yeah. So yeah.
2:02:31
So. Yeah, I'm just, I don't.
2:02:36
You sound. Exactly like the rest of us.
2:02:38
Welcome. Yeah, yeah, it's.
2:02:41
It's I don't know what to say, man.
2:02:44
I, I I. Kind of literally got.
2:02:46
A bunch of it out but I'm still with snow in them.
2:02:50
But I'm just I'm frustrated. And.
2:02:54
All this other stuff, man. So we all yeah, you know, we
2:03:01
we've talked about quite. A bit said instead of.
2:03:04
Prayer and things. And just.
2:03:07
Kind of like process. It's it's, it's wild.
2:03:12
Like I pointed out earlier, my wife, happenstance on her own
2:03:17
finds Charlie Kirk really enjoys watching his videos.
2:03:21
And I had to wake her up today. She didn't feel good because I
2:03:25
didn't want her to see what was what was on everywhere on the
2:03:29
whole Internet. Yeah, I wanted to be the one to
2:03:33
break the news. You know this is This is why.
2:03:36
I know I picked the right. Woman because she said some
2:03:39
stuff over there with. Snow and then and then I was
2:03:42
like, I even said to I was like, this is how I knew I picked the
2:03:45
right woman to be with like. She.
2:03:48
Didn't she didn't say oh, he deserved it or she, you know,
2:03:51
she's. She's.
2:03:52
As stunned as I am, but I I know on a little bit more because I
2:04:00
actually got to talk to him before, you know, so it hurts a
2:04:05
little. Bit more.
2:04:06
Because I know and I and I said this over there over on on with
2:04:10
snow in them, I said. It's it's.
2:04:13
His wife and his children that I'm, you know, I, I, I fear for,
2:04:19
because what if they come after his wife and children next?
2:04:22
And it, it, it, it, it creeps me out inside that somebody did
2:04:26
this instead of just going to talking to him, You know, you
2:04:31
know what I'm saying? I was pointing out like this is
2:04:34
a man whose entire career at this point is.
2:04:38
To put himself out in front of people, Yes, open.
2:04:42
So you are the biggest fucking coward that has ever fucking
2:04:46
been a coward. Little.
2:04:47
Shooter I've ever fucking seen. Yeah.
2:04:49
Just like what when Trump did, Trump went out.
2:04:52
He did it himself. He went out in front.
2:04:55
Of people, he told them what's up.
2:04:57
Charlie did the same bloody thing, even more intimate with
2:05:02
people, right? Yeah.
2:05:03
He, he would be there. He'd be like the chair there.
2:05:06
Microphone there, they would be like 5 feet, right?
2:05:09
In front of him, out of the crowd, especially if you
2:05:13
disagree with me, he would say yeah.
2:05:18
Yeah, it's it's really hard to process.
2:05:21
For. Pretty much everybody and.
2:05:24
I've made the point several times.
2:05:25
I want to know how you feel about this.
2:05:27
My line in the sand with people, it doesn't matter what your
2:05:29
politics are, is if you can't acknowledge that this was
2:05:33
horrible, then we probably don't have much to say anymore.
2:05:37
Yeah. And I I I already said that to
2:05:39
one of my. Well, we have.
2:05:41
I have some family that they. Were like, he deserved it and
2:05:44
I'm like, OK, I'm not going to be talking to you for a while
2:05:47
then yeah. So I I've just, it's a low bar.
2:05:53
It's a low. Fucking bar.
2:05:54
To say that if. I can acknowledge it you.
2:05:58
Should be able to, yeah. Yeah, I'm.
2:06:00
I'm just like and. Then I we went was it K what?
2:06:04
What? It's K sent me something.
2:06:07
I'm not going to say it, but she said that person in her family
2:06:14
not gonna name names. She said that he was on the evil
2:06:18
side and he believed in right supremacy.
2:06:20
So and I was just like, what the fuck?
2:06:24
What the fuck, man? I was just I I don't understand.
2:06:28
I swear it's sometimes these people.
2:06:30
Sam will probably. Be right back.
2:06:32
Yeah. I, I I.
2:06:34
Dude, I've streamed with Sam for years, you know that I he
2:06:38
bounces. In and out, How do you do?
2:06:40
How do you get it? How do you get the the green?
2:06:42
Screen. In front on on what I was
2:06:44
trying. To do I couldn't.
2:06:45
Figure out how do you do the green screen on Rumble 'cause
2:06:49
you know. Yeah, well, well, do you have to
2:06:54
use OBS? No, it it's just it's built
2:06:59
into. It's built into my.
2:07:02
Mac so sorry about that my a plane.
2:07:10
Flew over and Oh yeah. Yeah, did you see what Kay said,
2:07:13
right? There she goes.
2:07:14
I was highly. Disappointed in that person.
2:07:17
Which said that, yeah, that's family.
2:07:21
That was family that said that. OK, So Sam.
2:07:24
You weren't here. OK.
2:07:26
We we have a person in our family and Kay told me that this
2:07:32
person said about him that she just said he was on the side of
2:07:40
evil and he believed in white supremacy and he deserved to
2:07:45
what happened to him. And I was just like, oh, yeah,
2:07:50
that person is. Yeah.
2:07:51
I mean, yeah. Well, I mean like.
2:07:54
I've. Like that's that's.
2:07:57
The reason why? Like I've.
2:07:58
I got off. Facebook today because like, I
2:08:01
have a few family members who like I I I said this earlier
2:08:06
today. I said this earlier on the show
2:08:08
too. Like, even if you don't like
2:08:10
Kirk, like, like I know liberals who don't like Charlie Kirk, but
2:08:14
they like me and I so I asked like, you know, imagine this is
2:08:19
imagine this was me and imagine someone was saying about me
2:08:23
like, how would you guys feel like?
2:08:28
Yeah, it's just and and and and and then here's the thing.
2:08:34
On on X, there, there were several people that there were
2:08:41
several people that I've been friends with for.
2:08:45
You know this. You know this, Sam, that we've.
2:08:47
Been friends with several people for a while.
2:08:49
There were a few people that were lean.
2:08:52
I don't know if they were trolling, but because we have a
2:08:55
lot of trolley friends at points, but Oh yeah, we do we,
2:09:00
we, me and you have a lot of trolley friends, especially from
2:09:03
the from. The cocktail lounge.
2:09:05
And the Roadhouse and yeah, which by the which by the way, I
2:09:11
I had to I'm. Glad you just.
2:09:13
DM me directly. Because I I had.
2:09:14
I had. To mute the DM.
2:09:16
Group because some people in there were were just we're just
2:09:20
getting a bit what were they were wiling out a bit for me.
2:09:24
Wait, which one in the archivist or the no?
2:09:31
No, in the in the Roadhouse. Group people, people.
2:09:34
Are talking like civil wars popping off and I'm like yeah, I
2:09:37
don't need yeah they you know how you know how our homies are
2:09:42
man so. Yeah, yeah.
2:09:45
We're not to. That point yet, but we're
2:09:47
getting there, you know? Not to that point.
2:09:51
Yet, but it like I said over on snows we're it's I would say
2:09:55
we're like halfway there maybe because.
2:09:59
What happened with Trump? And then now, Charlie, we're at
2:10:02
the halfway point now. I would like to ask you this.
2:10:06
We just watched Trump's speech. You get a chance to see it, Yes.
2:10:12
Snow played it over there on his channel.
2:10:15
We didn't hate. The puppets weren't out.
2:10:17
Tonight, but the the whole cotton connection came together
2:10:21
and it was just our real selves over there tonight.
2:10:23
And so I think snow and snacks were the only two puppets over
2:10:26
there tonight. So if you guys want to play it
2:10:29
again, I'd love to if you people.
2:10:32
Well, no, I mean we we'd already saw it.
2:10:34
I. Just wanted to to know.
2:10:35
Yeah, I, I saw it. Yeah.
2:10:37
We he. Showed it over there and I agree
2:10:38
with him over there, yeah. I my reaction.
2:10:42
The reason I ask is 'cause my reaction is that's exactly what
2:10:45
I would like the. President to say.
2:10:47
In this situation, yes, I agree with that.
2:10:49
And then he came out. This is what I say.
2:10:53
He came. Out with respect and dignity and
2:10:56
did what a president should do. That is what a president is
2:10:59
supposed to do. You are supposed to come out
2:11:02
with dignity, respect in everything, and calm the people
2:11:07
who you work for. And This is why I love Trump.
2:11:11
He knows who he works for. He works for the people.
2:11:16
You know, there are certain people in our government know
2:11:20
they work for the. People.
2:11:22
OK, so I'm not even easy. He was a personal friend of.
2:11:28
Charlie yeah, that's that's what even me he.
2:11:31
He knew Charlie, like, really well.
2:11:34
Yeah. And then, you know, and there's
2:11:37
some other people that I'm worried about because, you know,
2:11:41
they, you know, I got to reach out to them because they knew
2:11:46
Charlie too. They, they've been silent so
2:11:48
far. You know, I see a lot of people
2:11:50
point out obviously his his wife and his children and, and how
2:11:53
tragic. It is, but I, I pointed out
2:11:56
earlier, a lot of the, the core people at TPUSA are probably
2:12:02
like family to him as well. Yeah.
2:12:04
And we, we have a friend. We have a friend that worked
2:12:08
there. OK.
2:12:11
That knew that I talked to him a lot.
2:12:14
So I I I have several I have several Jed before I.
2:12:20
Mean even now, like I'm like, I've been exchanging like text
2:12:26
messages with it, with it, yeah. So much cost.
2:12:29
Over in in that little segment of what what we're doing, I know
2:12:33
several. People as well.
2:12:34
And, and The thing is, is like, yeah, a lot of them, especially
2:12:37
the ones that go on these tours with him, they are working with
2:12:42
the guy every day. So yeah, you know, if you could.
2:12:48
If anybody like that. Is close wants to reach out you
2:12:51
know I'm here everybody's here because you know I I don't want
2:12:54
that to be forgotten but he was like an older brother or a
2:12:57
father to a lot of these people yeah and and one of and and like
2:13:01
somebody said to us tonight we don't know what's going to go on
2:13:04
with the. The organization or the company
2:13:07
organization, whatever now, because a lot of people just
2:13:10
really don't know, you know, yeah.
2:13:13
And, and at this and at this, you know, Yeah, yeah.
2:13:17
Well, that that's the other thing like.
2:13:18
Like Max and I were saying earlier like.
2:13:21
I've had people like. Ask me like, well, what do you
2:13:23
think the future is going to be with turning point?
2:13:25
And it's like, I don't know. I you know, I only I was part of
2:13:31
the organization. But like, I'm sure, I'm sure
2:13:35
that when given time to grieve and process this and figure
2:13:39
things. Out that they will come up with
2:13:40
a wonderful plan, yeah. But for now, like it's I, I
2:13:46
wouldn't expect them to have any fucking clue.
2:13:48
What to do because? No, I wouldn't because it just
2:13:50
happened. It happened, you know, hours ago
2:13:54
today, you know, it's like. It's.
2:13:56
It's almost like asking somebody like.
2:13:58
Hey. I know that your spouse just.
2:14:00
Died a couple hours ago but what are you going to do with the
2:14:03
company you know, Yeah. What what happens to, you know,
2:14:06
custody the kids and. Where's the house going?
2:14:10
And it's like. Are you fucking insane?
2:14:14
Shut the fuck up and go away. And like, yeah, yeah.
2:14:17
Yeah, you know, get off my fucking property and never come
2:14:21
back. Yeah, yeah, because.
2:14:22
You're you're. Not respecting who?
2:14:24
Just passed away, you know right and that's that's the.
2:14:27
Other thing you know, I I said is like, you know, show, show
2:14:30
support for the family. But, you know, let them be as
2:14:33
well. Yeah, They, they don't have any
2:14:36
idea. I mean, God, they're so she's,
2:14:38
she's so. Young, they were you.
2:14:40
Know young they 10 years younger than me so I, I.
2:14:48
Apologize, I'm not like saying. Much I'm just like you.
2:14:52
Know I'm juggling. DMS and like we're not keeping
2:14:57
up with chat as well but sorry about that chat well since I.
2:15:01
Since I got up today. I had several people message me
2:15:05
because I was. Just saying, you know, when my
2:15:07
schedule is I, I'm up in the morning, then I, I sleep, you
2:15:11
know, during the middle, like tomorrow's not the day I'm going
2:15:14
to be able to sleep And then I go to sleep.
2:15:17
I get up at like 5-6 my time and then I'm.
2:15:20
Up for the. Rest of the night and stuff.
2:15:23
You know, and then I do, I repeat the cycle.
2:15:25
Unless, you know, but tomorrow's it's just like, yeah.
2:15:28
I I. Got it, I got it.
2:15:30
I got to do the archivist tomorrow and I, I, I'm like, OK,
2:15:35
I don't want to turn it totally political, but I, I even, I even
2:15:39
I even, I was about to go live on my Rev and Love channel until
2:15:43
I saw you. And then somebody else was like,
2:15:46
hey, Jed, we're doing this over here.
2:15:48
You want to come over on my own? I'm like, OK, so.
2:15:53
So I was like, you know more. We debated doing the show at
2:15:57
all. Wednesday's our usual.
2:15:59
Night for. This and.
2:16:00
We try to do like I do a top ten comedy list and all this shit.
2:16:04
Yeah. And I was like, I don't feel
2:16:05
very funny, Sam. Yeah, I, I and I, I did this
2:16:09
too. Yeah.
2:16:10
Well, here, here, Sam. Joe even.
2:16:12
Said we were. Gonna You know we usually do the
2:16:15
Wednesday show, right, Sam? Yeah, He, he, he even said I, I,
2:16:20
I don't, I can't do it. Today I don't want to.
2:16:23
Talk about cough pop. Culture, I don't want it to.
2:16:25
I can't do it today. He cancelled the show.
2:16:28
Yeah. I mean luckily the nature of
2:16:31
this show is Sam was like. Well, I just I.
2:16:34
Just want to kind of talk about my feelings.
2:16:37
And I was like, cool, we'll just do that.
2:16:40
And I brought, you know, I said I'd say a prayer.
2:16:43
And so my wife picked out Psalm 54 and.
2:16:47
And that, that we're just winging it because normally
2:16:49
we're sitting here trying to make jokes, right?
2:16:51
And it's. Yeah.
2:16:52
And you can't make jokes today, man.
2:16:54
It's just like you're you're. Like I, I don't know what to
2:16:59
say. Well, like I, I don't know, like
2:17:03
more are are are you still here? Yeah, I'm here.
2:17:08
Like, I'm just thinking out loud.
2:17:10
Like, you know, like. Even bits and bones.
2:17:13
Like on Friday. Like, you know, we usually do
2:17:16
gaming stuff, but like right now that's touch that touch and go
2:17:19
depending on how how we feel. Yeah, yeah.
2:17:22
I mean. Look, I know like people.
2:17:26
People really want to hear. Our review of like Mafia, the
2:17:29
old country because when I have time in cycle right.
2:17:33
But that but yeah, Sam, that that can wait.
2:17:37
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, tonight it was a good
2:17:41
format because like you said, we could just kind of talk about it
2:17:45
and that's what we've. Done.
2:17:46
And I hope anybody that's watched, I don't know if you've
2:17:48
enjoyed the show, if it was fun, but I hope that we help process
2:17:52
trauma with you. Did you see what Kay said, Sam?
2:17:57
All the stuff, Yeah. I I'm glad.
2:18:02
I'm glad the president. Has said what he said that's
2:18:05
like and then that's like someone asking me if that if Jed
2:18:09
passed away, Roman said. I haven't watched a lot of
2:18:14
Charlie's speeches. I'm guessing they aren't that
2:18:16
offensive. No, he's super.
2:18:18
No milk toast. Hey dude.
2:18:21
He sit, he sits down, has a mic, has a a bottled water.
2:18:25
And then just sits down and talks.
2:18:27
He doesn't cuss. Sympathetic is shit to these.
2:18:30
Yeah, and talks too. Dude, there, there, there are
2:18:34
some of these. Women will They will basically
2:18:37
scream. They're 5.
2:18:38
Feet in front of him there is a table and then they're 5 feet in
2:18:42
front of him. And most of the time they yell
2:18:45
at him and then he goes, he goes, whoa, ma'am.
2:18:49
He even says, he even says ma'am lady, whatever.
2:18:52
He goes, what is the definition of a woman?
2:18:55
And then they go even ballistic they and then he goes, well,
2:18:59
what is the definition of this like he doesn't.
2:19:03
Advocate. Violence whatsoever either?
2:19:06
Well. Well, but but.
2:19:08
Asking, but asking questions is. Advocating violence to the far
2:19:13
left now that yeah it is because the truth and asking actual
2:19:17
questions that is a bannable. Offense, We can't have the truth
2:19:22
out there. We can't have this out there
2:19:24
because our whole ticky tacky speech bullshit falls apart
2:19:29
immediately, you know? Well, it's like, it's like I
2:19:33
said, because like, they can't counter our arguments.
2:19:35
Yeah, but putting a bullet? In this.
2:19:37
Man didn't disprove. Anything he was about, it proved
2:19:40
a lot of it. They they'd.
2:19:41
Actually proved more putting a bullet in him than them not
2:19:45
chewing. And here's the same.
2:19:46
Thing the it's even going to go even higher up with with him now
2:19:53
you know yeah for for all for all these lefties who love to
2:20:00
like. LARP V for Vendetta and shit
2:20:02
like yeah, Nah, it it's dude, that's that's that's us now.
2:20:09
They they don't, they don't know.
2:20:11
What they just did. We ain't even V for Vendetta, we
2:20:15
J for. Jesus over here.
2:20:16
And they yeah, I want to. I want to see this.
2:20:19
As we as we closed out the show tonight, we had a prayer.
2:20:23
On Snow's channel for Charlie and his wife and his family and
2:20:28
for the rest of America. That's how we closed out the
2:20:31
show tonight over on Snows. That's that's how we did the
2:20:36
middle and I I usually don't. Pray.
2:20:38
I usually don't. Pray on air because like, that's
2:20:42
to me, that usually feels like Griffery to do, but I felt
2:20:45
compelled to. And but it was for Charlie, and
2:20:52
that's the kind of thing he would have done, yeah.
2:20:53
He would appreciate that he would go.
2:20:56
People were praying for me. Good man.
2:20:59
You. Know good people you you you're
2:21:01
you're you're doing what I've been advocating and I've been
2:21:06
preaching and stuff you know yeah I I will say this I I.
2:21:14
Guess I am glad I don't know if. I don't know if Jed, if you've,
2:21:18
I know you and Max have like talked on X4, but I correct me
2:21:23
if I'm wrong. I don't I don't know if you
2:21:25
popped in during the election stream, but if this is your
2:21:28
first stream to go, I'm glad you were able to pop.
2:21:32
No, I've been, I've been on like once or twice with Max before I
2:21:36
was, I was here during. Some of the election stuff, and
2:21:40
especially when the. When the.
2:21:42
When he got shot, I was over here.
2:21:44
Remember, we did one in Joe's and then.
2:21:46
We did one. Over here.
2:21:47
So I was over here. Oh, yeah.
2:21:50
Oh, yeah, That's right. Yeah, man.
2:21:53
Time. Man.
2:21:54
Time. Flies.
2:21:56
Yeah, we. We actually did do that over
2:21:58
here, so. Well man, you know Joe.
2:22:09
Shout out to Joe and chat by. The way is Co host on bits and
2:22:14
bones and a good friend of the show He said 2215 so I wanted to
2:22:21
revelation 2215 so I figured I'll read that since he
2:22:25
suggested it for without our dogs and sorcerers and.
2:22:32
Whoremongers and murderers and. Idolaters and whoever loweth and
2:22:36
maketh a lie, I Jesus have set by an Angel to testify unto you
2:22:41
these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring
2:22:45
of David and the Bright and Morning Star.
2:22:51
But that's actually 16 as well. And it kind of goes.
2:22:54
All the way to the end. But yeah, it did.
2:22:56
It goes. On a little bit more, it
2:22:58
definitely does. It goes yes, 17 is.
2:23:00
And the Spirit and the Bride say, Come, and let him that.
2:23:03
Heareth say, Come, and let him that is athirst come, and
2:23:07
whoever will let him take that water of life freely.
2:23:11
For I testify unto every man that heareth the word of the
2:23:15
prophecy of this book. If any man shall add unto these
2:23:18
things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in
2:23:22
this book. And if any man shall take away
2:23:25
from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take
2:23:28
away his part out of the book, and away his and away his life,
2:23:34
and out of the holy city. And from these, from the things
2:23:39
which are written in this book. Yeah, he which testify these
2:23:44
things. Surely I come quickly.
2:23:47
Amen. Even so.
2:23:48
Come, Lord Jesus, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ will be
2:23:52
with you all. Amen.
2:23:56
Yeah. Amen, brother.
2:23:59
I'm actually. More used to reading the King
2:24:02
James so it threw me off, yeah. It's it, and I'm going to say
2:24:08
what we just have. In the chat right there.
2:24:10
What? What was it?
2:24:12
Roman said he's a martyr now. They literally turned him into a
2:24:16
martyr. There's no pure definition of
2:24:20
such. Yeah.
2:24:21
Yeah, he he is the pure. Definition.
2:24:22
Of a. Martyr now, yeah, like you, you
2:24:25
done fucked. Up and then you're going to find
2:24:28
out now, like literally no, like it's like.
2:24:32
It's. Like I was saying before, and
2:24:34
Trump basically kind of said this, but I'm saying if.
2:24:37
You're advocating political violence.
2:24:39
I think somebody needs to knock on your door.
2:24:43
Decide how serious this problem is and a couple things could
2:24:47
happen but two of them being either you end up in a padded
2:24:50
room or a cell we need There's a lot of they should knock on your
2:24:54
door like they were doing for COVID.
2:24:59
And. Vax questioners there, there's a
2:25:01
lot of people that need to go to the Asane asylum, the especially
2:25:05
one the blue haired. Whales, you know, Well, it's
2:25:08
really easy to start who with, and that's the people
2:25:12
threatening violence of any. Kind on the Internet you could
2:25:15
just go and pick those people up now you already got your core
2:25:18
asylum group then you start looking for you know the blue
2:25:21
hairs and the you also got that one Karen that took the ball
2:25:25
away from the dad that the dad was going to give the.
2:25:28
Kid, she came up, you know? Yeah.
2:25:33
And like, took that ball away from the kid at the ball game.
2:25:36
You know, men, by the way, men, you got to not let some Karen
2:25:41
take your no, no. I would have gave that to my
2:25:43
boy. If she tried to take that from
2:25:44
my boy I would have knocked her the fuck out.
2:25:48
Like sorry, if she would have laid hands on me I would have
2:25:51
laid that bitch out. Because the minute she lays,
2:25:54
she's. Over 18 / 21 she lays a hand on
2:25:58
you. You got a legal right to knock
2:26:00
that bitch out, you know, So just say you ain't wrong.
2:26:05
I ain't gonna be playing the bullshit.
2:26:07
I'm a big guy though. I I have a different.
2:26:10
Code of conduct. For the same reason.
2:26:12
She does. Actually is because if you saw
2:26:15
me on video, it doesn't matter if somebody starts shit with me.
2:26:19
It always looks like I'm the bad guy.
2:26:21
Yeah, me too. So I have a higher standard of
2:26:23
conduct. Yeah, but even then you're
2:26:26
putting. Hands.
2:26:27
On me bitch, what the fuck? Well, she put.
2:26:30
Hands on the kid. 1st and then put hands on the guy.
2:26:34
I was like, no, you don't fuck. With my kid, bro, yeah.
2:26:36
And then went to go put hands on him.
2:26:39
So and and you definitely don't like bitch the ball.
2:26:43
Yeah, no, he gave the ball. To her, that's what.
2:26:45
I didn't understand. I was like, no, give that to
2:26:48
your. Kid homie he deserves.
2:26:49
It. You know, because modern man has
2:26:52
been cooked so much that he's afraid he's going to be looking
2:26:56
bad. And he knows.
2:26:56
People are filming it and he doesn't know they'll be.
2:26:59
He doesn't know how the internet's going to react
2:27:01
because there might be like, oh, look at this misogynist.
2:27:04
No, no, no. The whole Internet was on that
2:27:06
dude's side for his kid. But in the moment.
2:27:09
You never know. Yeah.
2:27:12
And he thought. Let's just end this shit and
2:27:15
give her the. Ball, But that's exactly the
2:27:17
fucking problem. Stop.
2:27:18
Yeah, that's the problem. That's the problem.
2:27:20
He should have gave it to his kid if she went and went over
2:27:23
there a second. Time to his kid.
2:27:25
And she laid a hand on his kid. He had legal right to knock that
2:27:29
bitch out. I would laid her on her fucking
2:27:33
ass. No fucking.
2:27:36
Don't touch kids. Yeah, don't touch my kids.
2:27:38
Don't touch kids. You know I.
2:27:41
I find it sad that. Mort and I are both, you know,
2:27:44
in wheelchairs and. Our legs don't work.
2:27:47
Yeah, Yeah, we have. Yeah, we have more fucking balls
2:27:51
than some of these. Dude, you guys.
2:27:53
Dude. Sam.
2:27:53
I've, I'll Sam Morpheus. I've always said that about you
2:27:57
2. You guys have more fucking
2:27:59
balls. Than.
2:27:59
Guys that are standing up most times and even even more fun
2:28:03
than that. And since I I swore off jokes
2:28:06
tonight. But I do.
2:28:07
Have one. Is also like, they have more
2:28:10
spying. Yeah, which is ironic.
2:28:12
This is ironic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:28:18
And did you see what? Kay said Right.
2:28:20
There the. Team ended up getting a ball and
2:28:22
the the player signed it for him.
2:28:24
Oh, they, they, yeah, yeah, it's a kid, man.
2:28:29
And I'm just. Like.
2:28:31
I've seen this entitled bullshit.
2:28:33
Behavior first hand. At wrestling events back in the
2:28:35
day. Me and my, me and my boy.
2:28:39
Me and my boy would go. He'd be in his uniform because
2:28:42
they. Give free.
2:28:43
I don't. Know if people.
2:28:44
Know this WWE gives free tickets if you got a military ID.
2:28:47
Yep, it's shitty tickets but it's free tickets and usually
2:28:52
they would just. Give him an.
2:28:53
Extra 1 for me because he would. Make a big stink about.
2:28:56
It but anyway, the box office would be like, we don't want to
2:28:59
get free tickets and it's like, yeah, WWE does that.
2:29:01
They'll comp us and then they go look it up and they end up
2:29:04
giving us 2 free tickets instead of 1.
2:29:05
But yeah, point being, we would wait outside where the wrestlers
2:29:10
would come in because they'll come up to the gate in Boston at
2:29:13
the Garden and they would come out and shake people's hands.
2:29:16
But there's little kids. Well, obviously I'm with a guy
2:29:21
in fucking uniform. He we're being on our best
2:29:24
behavior. The little kids come fucking
2:29:26
first. Yeah, the kids come first, man.
2:29:29
But then here's some asshole with a sandwich board covered in
2:29:33
merchandise. Goes up to.
2:29:35
Try and get him to sign it. It was actually a Christian was
2:29:39
it was the guy that he was trying to bother to get him to
2:29:41
sign a figure and there was like 3 kids trying to come in and
2:29:44
shake the guy's hand. So me and my fucking friend in
2:29:47
uniform over there because I'm huge and my boys in an actual
2:29:50
fucking AC use. We just walk over and we just
2:29:53
grab him by one arm and the other and we fucking yeah.
2:29:58
And the little kids are like, yeah, they all go up and fucking
2:30:01
afterwards, Christian. Comes up to us.
2:30:03
And he's like, yo, thank you guys so much.
2:30:05
This is Christian. Christian is such a nice dude.
2:30:08
And he he, he loves our military.
2:30:11
He loves helping out the little kids dude, because I've got to
2:30:15
hang with him before and it combined both those things.
2:30:18
So check this out. Check this out.
2:30:20
He went and found. Hacksaw Jim Dugging Yeah, and
2:30:25
Hacksaw hung out with us for like 2 hours after that.
2:30:28
Dude, that's. Hacksaw is one of the most.
2:30:31
Hilarious. Oh yeah.
2:30:33
Indian. Yeah.
2:30:34
Dude, because I've gotten to hang out.
2:30:36
Dude, I've got to. Hang out with Taker.
2:30:38
I've got to hang out with Stone Cold.
2:30:40
Got Rock is a piece of shit. Don't ever, don't ever just
2:30:44
fucking deal with that. V Rock's a piece of shit.
2:30:46
Fucking Triple H was cool as fuck.
2:30:49
RB Sean is fucking cool as fuck. Like, you know, there there's a
2:30:55
lot of cane is fucking cool as fuck, you know, Yeah, there's
2:30:59
even I'm going to say this RIPRIP, our brother in the sky,
2:31:03
Hogan was fucking awesome to hang out with.
2:31:06
OK, well, I, I I'm a Hulkamania. I did a rant like what was it 2
2:31:12
years? Ago saying about Hulkamania that
2:31:14
I'm a Hulkamaniac, you know, and that's for life.
2:31:19
Yeah. Yeah.
2:31:20
It's so sad he passed this year. Yeah, well.
2:31:24
Yeah, man, shit. We we've lost a lot of good
2:31:27
ones. Yeah, and I've.
2:31:29
Lost Actually I've I've within this year I've lost 2.
2:31:34
Really good friends Tony Todd and James Earl Jones.
2:31:38
I've known James Earl Jones since I was a kid.
2:31:43
I I've known Tony Todd since maybe maybe 10 years, maybe 5 to
2:31:49
10 years, because I met him at a convention and I was hanging
2:31:52
with James Earl drones at a convention and he goes, do you
2:31:55
know him? And I was like, I was like, it
2:31:59
was just like, I was like, oh, God, Tony Todd's coming up with
2:32:02
James and James. James is James always had a
2:32:06
smile on his face. He always made jokes.
2:32:08
He's like, yeah, I've known him since he was a kid.
2:32:11
I was like, I was like, dude, I got Vader.
2:32:15
I got Vader in candy, man, right in front of me, man.
2:32:18
Like, Oh my God, yeah, That that's a, that's a, that's a
2:32:25
wild combo if I've ever heard. Yeah.
2:32:27
And then, then. He goes, he goes, how long have
2:32:30
you? He goes, James, how long I was
2:32:32
like. Since he was a kid because his
2:32:35
mom and dad used to do security work for us at the creation
2:32:39
cons. Now if anybody knows what
2:32:41
creation cons are, that was the old school conventions back in
2:32:46
the day. OK, That the Star Trek crew, he
2:32:50
goes, How I Met him is through. They were doing the security for
2:32:53
the OG Star Trek crew. OK.
2:32:57
And then I was there at the convention and they were doing,
2:33:00
you know, security work for me. And so they just, they, they
2:33:07
dropped him off with the star. Catch Star Trek.
2:33:09
Cast or Michelle would be the sweetest pie, you know, whenever
2:33:15
she was there. And then Jimmy would be just
2:33:18
busting jokes and then he's like, and then the time that
2:33:22
James come over over there and I was like, Oh my God, the streams
2:33:26
are crossing. It's Star Trek, Star Wars.
2:33:29
Like. You know, but yeah, so, yeah, I
2:33:36
was, you know, so Hacksaw was cool, but the point was that
2:33:41
they were really. Hyped that we yeah, yeah, yeah,
2:33:43
yeah. Kids first, right?
2:33:44
And that's like the mentality you should have in any sports
2:33:46
game. I don't know about you.
2:33:48
I used to. Go to some.
2:33:50
It's actually sad they're closing down.
2:33:53
Not the Fenway where the Red Sox play, but actually the Pawtucket
2:33:57
Red Sox. I used to go see them all the
2:33:59
time. Yeah, when I was in like high
2:34:01
school and shit at McCoy Stadium, which is sort of a
2:34:04
legendary AAA ballpark, and I don't like some of our AAA
2:34:10
ballparks out here, our legend barrier and spring training and
2:34:13
stuff, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
2:34:16
Like triple AI mean the AAA ball is?
2:34:19
Is where the. Pros end up starting usually.
2:34:22
Yeah, it's true and and and and so obviously if a fucking home
2:34:26
run or foul. Ball or whatever section.
2:34:28
You're in. Comes.
2:34:30
And there's kids trying to get it.
2:34:34
Why wouldn't I let a kid have it?
2:34:36
Yeah, because I'm a. Greedy fuck that.
2:34:39
That's. What I used to do when I?
2:34:41
Got when when I was. Younger.
2:34:42
That's what I met Reggie Jackson out at the.
2:34:44
Stadium or I think it's either the Braves or something.
2:34:48
It's out here in Arizona, so they have some of the AAA teams
2:34:52
there that play during that time.
2:34:54
And then spring, when spring training comes out here, all the
2:34:57
teams come out here. That's where I met Reggie
2:34:59
Jackson, and my grandfather got me to meet Reggie Jackson back
2:35:03
in the day when really cool about when they come out for
2:35:06
training, talking to fans, signing autographs.
2:35:09
If you wait at the right places and stuff, you know, it's a
2:35:13
great way for a kid to experience that.
2:35:15
Mark Mcgwire's kind of an asshole, though.
2:35:18
Was kind of well, there's probably a lot of fucking
2:35:20
asshole. Baseball.
2:35:21
Think about it. I I bet you an.
2:35:24
Abnormal number of baseball players have autism?
2:35:28
Oh yeah, like there's no way they don't particularly
2:35:31
pitchers. I bet you pitcher autism.
2:35:33
Is really high. Yeah.
2:35:37
And yeah, that, that, that checks out.
2:35:41
Yeah, here's. Here's The funny thing.
2:35:43
I was even a kid. Because.
2:35:45
When when I was a. Kid, I would be in one section
2:35:48
where they hit the balls to, but I would give it to the other
2:35:51
kid. I was a kid giving balls to the
2:35:53
other kids because whenever I I was like, dude, I can get the
2:35:57
whole team to sign my ball if I want to because I know people.
2:36:01
So the kids didn't have one. I would be that kid that goes,
2:36:05
Hey, you want this ball or I'd hand it to their dad.
2:36:07
I was like, here, give this to your kid.
2:36:09
And they're like, there is a kid giving out balls and then they
2:36:12
go sign. I was like, hey, he's like, can
2:36:14
you give me? I was like, hey, if you want to
2:36:16
come down where they can sign the ball for you, you know, I
2:36:19
was just, you know, it's meaningful to kids.
2:36:22
Yeah, it is man. You know that.
2:36:24
That one moment they. Take to sign the kids ball could
2:36:28
set. That kid on a.
2:36:29
Fucking career path for the rest of his life and he ends up the
2:36:32
greatest player of all time. And that's happened.
2:36:34
Yeah, yeah. So it's like, yeah, I, I another
2:36:39
one is like when? I played hockey, right?
2:36:41
You know, we only played local, like high school.
2:36:44
I played high school hockey. Right.
2:36:46
But one thing is you still throw pucks to the kids.
2:36:48
Yeah, you do. They still like that shit, dude.
2:36:52
Yeah, I I went to a bunch of the Coyotes.
2:36:54
Games they still. Did that out there like before.
2:36:57
They they sent the Coyotes over to fucking Utah, which pissed me
2:37:01
the fuck off. Well, I was so pissed.
2:37:03
I'm here in Massachusetts, so we're a bit hockey.
2:37:07
Heavy, right I. Know I was so.
2:37:09
Pissed because I waited for hockey to come out for like 25.
2:37:13
Years since I was a kid, 2530 years since I was a kid.
2:37:17
And then we finally got hockey when I I was became a legal
2:37:21
adult when I was 21, we'd got the Coyotes and we had the
2:37:24
Coyotes up until about 8 months to a year ago.
2:37:29
And so during my most of my adult life, we had hockey and
2:37:34
the desert. And then?
2:37:35
These other motherfuckers didn't want to pay for it.
2:37:38
So the sports, they even made a stadium, they made part of the
2:37:41
stadium for the the Coyotes. And then so because they would
2:37:46
wouldn't give them what the owner wanted, they bounced to
2:37:49
Utah and I was like, fuck, real quick.
2:37:52
I just want to interject here. Big shout out to Mr. Medicare.
2:37:56
For. Basically tweeting out and
2:38:01
exposing all these game devs who are cheering Charlie Kirk's
2:38:09
death. Oh yeah, and I want, I want to
2:38:10
put this out and exposing them. Smash has been out in a.
2:38:14
Lot of people. Too.
2:38:15
I know Smash JTI got to hang. Out with him like this.
2:38:18
Year at the game on convention smashes out there out in people
2:38:22
too Oh well on the one hand I like that they're being exposed,
2:38:27
but on the other hand it's like I'm.
2:38:29
So fucking don't want to see anymore.
2:38:32
Just tell me what games is are affected, you know?
2:38:37
Oh yeah, fuck. With Borderlands 4 bro.
2:38:40
Oh, like I would like Borderlands.
2:38:42
Isn't. The most?
2:38:43
Fucking. Like who even?
2:38:46
Did you hear the other night that it crashed on Conan's
2:38:50
video? He he did a video.
2:38:52
And it crashed on Conan's video and everybody is, everybody
2:38:58
started talking about it. And Conan even made a.
2:39:01
Joke about it and he's like. Well, is.
2:39:04
Your game that really that good if it crashes?
2:39:06
Like only thing my wife knows about Borderlands is how much I
2:39:11
say it sucks. Well see I, and I'm referring to
2:39:15
Borderlands 2 specifically. Like I hate that fucking game.
2:39:19
And I don't know why they got more.
2:39:20
Than that well see that's where they fucked up.
2:39:24
Here's my on me 1/2. In the the the Tales from the
2:39:28
Borderlands and was it the other one?
2:39:32
There was only like three or four of them that are decent.
2:39:35
When 3 came around, that's when they fucked everything up.
2:39:38
See, that's where I differ from a lot of people.
2:39:40
I don't think there was a decent one at all, I think.
2:39:43
Everybody suffers from this. It's better with friend
2:39:46
syndrome. And that's just I played it all
2:39:47
by myself. Yeah, so I didn't.
2:39:50
That's the it's the grindiest. Shit I've ever done it is
2:39:54
writing is. Trash.
2:39:56
Yeah. You know, it's like millennial.
2:39:59
Also, random humor gets. Real old.
2:40:02
Yeah, well, it got. Especially in three where they
2:40:05
just they were throwing a joke out every two seconds.
2:40:08
And Kay wanted to play it. I was like, oh God, did we have
2:40:12
to play through this fucking game again?
2:40:14
She just wanted to see it. We got halfway through it.
2:40:18
And I mean, she was like, it's like, yeah, she didn't like it.
2:40:21
But then, you know, they started that new TOS on for the game and
2:40:28
I went through the TOS and they said they have legal right to
2:40:31
fuck with your saves and all this other shit.
2:40:34
I raced that game right off my sis.
2:40:36
I took it right off and said I'm not going to play that shit ever
2:40:39
again, you know, and I, you know, and when GTA6.
2:40:46
Comes out. Be very careful because.
2:40:49
That's owned by. The same company that owns
2:40:51
Borderlands? Yep.
2:40:53
So be careful about that shit because that TOS applies to GTA.
2:40:58
6 and they're gonna. Like still air like not like
2:41:02
they don't, but it's like they in the underturned service
2:41:05
already already confirmed that it's going to have kernel level
2:41:09
anti cheat that's. Confirmed that that's yeah it
2:41:12
it's there's so much fucked up with that and I'm like, I'm not
2:41:15
going to buy. GTA6.
2:41:17
Fuck that. I, I, I, you know, actually
2:41:22
here's a fun little way. To determine things.
2:41:25
For you. If a game won't run on Linux at
2:41:29
all, it's often because it has a kernel level anti cheat.
2:41:33
Yep, Yep, that that is true. I one way to tell.
2:41:39
I I. Am probably too.
2:41:40
Fucking poor. To play.
2:41:43
Bro just just just get. Game Pass and you can get
2:41:46
whatever game you want to so I, I.
2:41:49
I, I know, but like I like I. Like I said, I'm.
2:41:54
Not going to spend 100 bucks. Like Moore and I were.
2:41:58
Saying that we both, we, we both played Mafia, the old country
2:42:02
and we, I, I'll, I'll, I liked it eventually.
2:42:08
There, there, there, there. There is one game that I play
2:42:11
religiously, like since 2:00. 1000. 16 is No Man's Sky.
2:42:15
That is one game that I've been playing basically for the last
2:42:19
nine years, since 2016. It was terrible at the start,
2:42:24
but then they went were silent for about a year and a half,
2:42:28
came back, had an update and like hey guys, we're trying to
2:42:30
fix the. Fucking game.
2:42:32
Since then, they've every DLC and every update has been free
2:42:36
for the last nine years. That game is a shell of what it
2:42:41
used to be. That, that's what.
2:42:43
Well, that makes. No, it's a shell of the crap it
2:42:47
used to be. Because it's an awesome.
2:42:48
Game, right? Yeah, well, it was a shitty
2:42:51
game, I admit it. But yeah, it's a really good
2:42:53
game now, yeah. I.
2:42:56
Fun thing is I just randomly decided to go back.
2:43:00
Through dungeons and Dragons online, not Neverwinter but
2:43:05
Dungeons and Dragons online which is a 2007 MMO that I
2:43:09
played back in the day and man is it the best dungeons and
2:43:12
Dragons MMO because most of most of the older stuff is actually
2:43:18
better than modern day shit we have now so.
2:43:21
Oh yeah, it's super fun because they just updated it with a 64
2:43:25
bit server so it. Used to have.
2:43:27
A lag. Problem.
2:43:28
And it doesn't anymore. That's kind of what they did.
2:43:31
The Old Republic too. Yeah, yeah.
2:43:34
So I used to play. The shit out of old.
2:43:36
Republic. I guess they did it to Lord of
2:43:38
the Rings Online recently as well, but I haven't jumped back
2:43:41
into that yet. I'm Yeah, yeah, I had some buddy
2:43:44
of mine, one of our YouTube friends, Sam, that's been trying
2:43:47
to get. Me to play that but I won't I
2:43:49
was like dude I already went through all that cold game
2:43:51
couple times I'm not going to play it again.
2:43:54
Well my go back to MMO actually if it ain't if any.
2:43:59
Is. Become Warhammer Online, the
2:44:02
private server Return of Reckoning, because it's
2:44:06
completely free and it's PvP and you can basically jump into PvP.
2:44:10
At level 1. If you really want but level 5
2:44:13
more which takes about 3 minutes.
2:44:20
Yeah. And and then it like scales and
2:44:22
it's a really. Like the server?
2:44:24
Is always popping, you know so. It's like 100 V 100 battles a
2:44:27
lot of the time. Yeah, what Kay said right there.
2:44:31
She's been trying to get me to play Half Life too.
2:44:34
Again, I'm. Just like I've been through that
2:44:36
game so many times, there's, there's certain.
2:44:39
Games. Where I'm like, dude, I've been
2:44:40
through that game so many times. It's.
2:44:44
Just I don't want to go through it again.
2:44:46
I have the opposite problem with Half Life.
2:44:47
Alex is I think I got 3 hours in and I'm like.
2:44:52
Every time it's too intense. Out of all the VR games, it's
2:44:59
the only one I've quit. On because it was too intense.
2:45:01
So far I. Heard somebody else quit because
2:45:05
they said it was too intense too so.
2:45:09
I mean, I got the quest so I'm streaming it from my computer.
2:45:14
So I mean, it's not like the. Graphics sometimes get a little
2:45:17
fuzzy, but yeah, for the most part it's really, really fucking
2:45:22
graphically good. And then when you get it's the
2:45:25
fucking head crab zombies. And I know if you play Half Life
2:45:28
too, that sounds like they're the.
2:45:29
Wussiest enemy in the world. But like, you got to load the
2:45:32
fucking gun. Like they're coming from all
2:45:36
directions at me. And I was just like, OK, I need
2:45:39
to sit down. Yeah.
2:45:43
Like too much Half life for one day, Yeah.
2:45:48
Well, now like. And I'm not gonna.
2:45:51
I don't want to. Discount Charlie because we went
2:45:53
off into video games and stuff. But yeah, no, no, it it was it.
2:45:59
Believe me, it's a nice. It's a nice.
2:46:01
Change of. Pace.
2:46:02
After, you know, like I, I, I. I.
2:46:09
Was I I. Would say I was going to grab a
2:46:12
beer. And I'll never try.
2:46:13
But he never. He didn't drink either.
2:46:16
So yeah, well, Sam, I got to go because me and Kay were still
2:46:21
going to do something and. All hell broke.
2:46:23
Loose today, but I. Wanted to come.
2:46:25
Over here, I wanted to come over here and hang out with you guys
2:46:28
for a little bit. So no, I, I, I appreciate it,
2:46:32
man. Glad you were able to come on.
2:46:35
So. Wish I I wish it were under
2:46:38
better circumstances, man. So.
2:46:40
Oh, and and by. The way I.
2:46:42
Am trying to get maybe the Roadhouse going.
2:46:46
Again, so I'll give you Oh, and Jed, you've got an open
2:46:49
invitation to bits and bones anytime, OK?
2:46:52
That'd be awesome, man. Thank you.
2:46:53
I. Appreciate it.
2:46:55
So yeah. Yeah, we what?
2:46:59
We should get the Roadhouse. I've got.
2:47:01
I've. Got books to, you know, promote.
2:47:03
I know, dude, and we'll do that. But dude, here's my thing.
2:47:09
If you want to promote your book, come.
2:47:11
On on to the. Archivist in a daytime, if you
2:47:13
can make it. Up.
2:47:15
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Just wait.
2:47:19
Actually, I don't. Think tomorrow, but I.
2:47:21
Think next week would be good or you can come over.
2:47:24
And promote your book and we can just talk about all the pop
2:47:26
culture shit, OK, Because I already have.
2:47:30
And then you'll you'll see Joe over there.
2:47:35
We have a bunch of people over there now.
2:47:36
And I just added somebody else to the to the thing.
2:47:44
I, I I added. Troy.
2:47:46
I don't know if you know Troy. Troy is.
2:47:47
Now. A part of the Archivist on
2:47:50
Thursdays now too. And tomorrow we're going to have
2:47:53
Jonas there tomorrow too. So I don't know if you want to
2:47:56
come by. Tomorrow.
2:47:57
Man, you can. I'll give you a link but.
2:47:59
Yeah, yeah. And yeah, wait, are you in the
2:48:03
archivist server or the? Cat.
2:48:06
Thing did I add you in there? For discord I.
2:48:11
Am but I no. I'm not not in discord on X.
2:48:13
So that's where I'd. Leave a bunch of messages on.
2:48:18
I, I, I think so. But like I with the whole
2:48:21
Charlie Kirk thing, like I've just been getting bombarded.
2:48:23
With yeah, you're not in there, but I'll add you in there.
2:48:26
But yeah, if you need to mute it, I'll just still get out.
2:48:29
I'll. Get a hold of you and stuff.
2:48:31
So yeah, no, I'll, I'll keep it. I'll I'll keep that one open.
2:48:38
There there were just there were just a few other group chats
2:48:40
where people were sprigging out tonight.
2:48:43
So yeah, they aren't like in in in OK.
2:48:46
So they did say a few things, but it was Joe that.
2:48:49
Said son. You know, Joe doesn't go over
2:48:51
well. Yeah, I Joe, Joe's good.
2:48:55
I'm not worried about yeah, that that's.
2:48:57
That's that's the thing with Joe.
2:48:58
And I was like, you know, Joe. So I'm like, OK.
2:49:02
It's it's he is not gonna. All right, I'll add you in there
2:49:05
right now. Just a second.
2:49:07
Yeah. Yeah, Joe's, yeah, Joe's
2:49:10
awesome. I'm and like I said, like, yeah.
2:49:12
Joe, Joe kind of did the reasonable thing and said, yeah,
2:49:15
but there I just added you in there.
2:49:17
OK. Yeah, I, yeah, I saw that.
2:49:20
Thank. Thank.
2:49:22
Oh, no problem brother. So yeah.
2:49:25
Well, I, I hope you gentlemen have a good night.
2:49:28
Well, you as well. Was.
2:49:31
God bless, you know, God bless. Charlie, God bless.
2:49:34
His children and his wife. And God Bless America, you know,
2:49:37
So, yeah. So I'll see you guys later.
2:49:42
Thank you for letting me come over.
2:49:43
Guys. Oh.
2:49:45
No problem. Thanks for coming on.
2:49:47
OK, man. Bye, guys.
2:49:49
Later, buddy. Well, that.
2:49:55
Was good to have. Jed on we.
2:49:57
May. We may have a friend from one of
2:50:03
the old. Penn State.
2:50:06
Turning point chapters coming on but I I threw out the.
2:50:10
Length I don't. Know if he'll be coming on or
2:50:13
not, but you do. You mentioned it.
2:50:17
Have a book to promote? Well, shoot, book, book.
2:50:23
I've got book. I've.
2:50:26
Got 3. Actually.
2:50:31
First book. I have is one I've promoted too
2:50:34
much, but it's the Western Tales volume one from Veritas
2:50:41
Entertainment, which is not my publishing, but it's one of the
2:50:45
publishers that I've published with and I'm hoping to publish a
2:50:50
few more books with them. So check this out.
2:50:54
It's it's POG sized and a bunch of other short stories by some
2:51:00
notable authors in there as well.
2:51:05
Next up we have the smash blockbuster hit for this year,
2:51:15
Night of the Vigilante. Wait, wait, wait, ladies.
2:51:22
Ladies, I can tell you what, Jason.
2:51:27
Miller wouldn't be, you know, putting up on any of this.
2:51:33
Yeah. So Jason Miller, the ladies are
2:51:36
all after. Not, not Sam.
2:51:41
Well, you know how much? How much of me?
2:51:47
Well, I'll tell you who else the ladies will go out after.
2:51:52
Is. But Mr. John Ryder since the
2:52:01
Assassin book 4 on so now. Also on a slight discount now
2:52:11
too. You can pick up the paperback
2:52:15
for 1299 now. Damn, son.
2:52:20
You mean all? That for 1299, with the glossy
2:52:23
finish and all. Yep.
2:52:27
And and look, I thought, I thought it was a deal.
2:52:30
I thought it was a deal at 15, but people were saying, you
2:52:34
know, Sam, the economy is tough right now.
2:52:38
And I said I could have been an asshole and said, you know what,
2:52:43
just buy the book anyway. I could have done that.
2:52:45
You could have raised the price. But I was like, you know?
2:52:51
What all y'all? $25.
2:52:56
You know, I could have. I could.
2:52:58
Have done that and maybe and maybe.
2:53:00
I should have, but I but I'm generous.
2:53:04
I'm going to go out of business with these places.
2:53:06
What are you doing? Yeah.
2:53:10
Ebook is Ebook is still. Priced at 690-9699.
2:53:16
Sam, we're going to lose everything.
2:53:21
Not well, not if not if our shirts.
2:53:25
Not if everyone listening. Goes out and buys since the
2:53:31
assassin on sale now. I would I would say no for
2:53:43
trolling places, Sam. Well.
2:53:49
Honestly, Shmui doesn't. Know about the price changes?
2:53:54
But that explains it. But I'm sure.
2:53:58
Once he sees all. The all.
2:54:01
The royalty revenue. That I'm making, he'll be like,
2:54:05
yeah, that was a decent choice. So.
2:54:11
So anyway, so yeah, go and buy available now go and buy some
2:54:19
some of. These.
2:54:24
You know, I, I will say. I will say I'm working on book
2:54:29
5. Which I don't want to reveal too
2:54:36
much but the. The subject of political
2:54:39
violence. Has been on my mind a lot, like
2:54:45
even before this and so. You know.
2:54:50
We've caught we covered tough thing that.
2:54:52
We're keep seeing, you know. You know, you know everyone,
2:54:59
everyone keeps asking the question.
2:55:01
Does art imitate life or does? Life imitate art and no, this
2:55:08
was a serious question. I heard the mask on the fake
2:55:10
Untied podcast and. I side with.
2:55:14
Steve's take, which is that art imitates life more often than
2:55:19
not, for better, for worse, I. Think it's a case.
2:55:24
Of all of the above because of. Course art if it doesn't imitate
2:55:31
it. At least reflects the.
2:55:32
Experience of the artist, right and somebody can see in that
2:55:38
reflection a piece of. Themselves and.
2:55:40
Reflect it. Back that's it's it's a two way
2:55:43
St. yeah and that can be taken to the both the.
2:55:49
Positive and negative final conclusions.
2:55:52
Of whatever it is. You know, it's kind of like, you
2:55:58
know. The chicken.
2:56:01
Or the egg, I I don't know. Is art reflecting?
2:56:04
Violence because there's so much violence?
2:56:08
Or is the the violence caused by the art?
2:56:11
I don't. Think you can?
2:56:14
Determine one or the other. I think they're just linked,
2:56:20
yeah. You see, like matter of fact for
2:56:25
the past. Like 20 years you've seen a.
2:56:27
Gravitation away from edgy art towards safer corpo art.
2:56:32
Now you're seeing it gravitate the opposite direction because
2:56:36
people feel less safe. This ain't gonna.
2:56:43
Make anyone feel safer, I'll tell you that no.
2:56:48
Well. I mean, I, I feel like with
2:56:57
incidents like this, right? Because there have been.
2:57:00
Like thrillers right off the. Kennedy assassination for years
2:57:05
now, you know. Maybe shoot, I don't.
2:57:13
Know maybe I hope that someone like can at least take something
2:57:21
positive out of out of this so. I pray for the kids.
2:57:32
To lay out the world. And grow up in a world.
2:57:35
Where this is the. State of things I.
2:57:38
Try and. You know, my son doesn't know
2:57:42
what happened. Despite how?
2:57:43
Upset it might have made. Us because.
2:57:46
It's not something he shouldn't know.
2:57:52
That's. That's probably honestly for the
2:57:56
best at this point. He might.
2:58:00
Find out what day, but it won't be today.
2:58:03
When he's not prepared for it. Yeah, 11.
2:58:09
He's a little. You know, he's a little young.
2:58:13
Still, for Charlie to really be an influence.
2:58:16
But. You know, maybe when he's older,
2:58:22
you know. He'll hear of.
2:58:26
Charlie. I'm sure he will at some point.
2:58:31
Yeah. So you.
2:58:34
Know. Take care.
2:58:38
Of each other is the only thing I could glean from any of this.
2:58:43
Agreed. Mix.
2:58:44
Yeah, and also and also whether you're and also.
2:58:48
As cliche. As.
2:58:51
This makes might sound love your life to the fullest because you.
2:58:58
Never know when the end. Is near, well and.
2:59:08
The millions of lives he touched, he's never.
2:59:11
Going to be gone like Trump said.
2:59:20
But. You know, it's it's a big void
2:59:24
left in a. Movement in like a country just
2:59:32
it's devastating blow. And.
2:59:37
It's. Hard to wrap my brain around
2:59:41
people. Celebrating it.
2:59:42
But I do. Think that, yeah, those people
2:59:44
should be talked to by law enforcement.
2:59:49
Oh yeah, I don't think that's a. Big ask, but will it happen?
2:59:57
Probably. Not.
3:00:00
At least catch. The guy that fucking did this
3:00:03
and. Show some measure of.
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Justice. Yeah, I know that's that's best
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we can we can help for. So.
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Well, I don't think there's much else to say.
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Yeah, I what's more, you got anything else?
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No, I think you just. Covered it for me.
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Yeah, well, a big shout. Out for.
3:00:41
Jed joining. Us and.
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That was pretty cool. Shout.
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Out to everyone in chat K Roman. Yeah, Joe Jen 11 by the name of
3:00:59
Texas. I think 1 of Jed's listeners so
3:01:02
appreciate y'all appreciate everyone who who tuned in on X
3:01:09
and even kick so wish the. Circumstances.
3:01:16
Were better, but. We appreciate.
3:01:19
People coming out regardless, so take care, you know?
3:01:24
Don't get so wrapped up. Yeah, you ruin yourself.
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Yeah. Yeah, right.
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So anyway, folks, I. Guess we'll be, I guess.
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I guess we'll be back. This show will be back.
3:01:47
Monday. I don't really want to speak
3:01:49
for. Any of the other.
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Shows I guess we'll be I guess it'll be TBD at this point yeah,
3:02:01
yeah. So TBD for Friday and then, you
3:02:06
know, we've got, I mean, I is it safe to say?
3:02:12
Sandwich makers is TBD. As.
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Well, or. At the moment it's been, it's
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been for her today she's. Trying to process it still.
3:02:26
Yeah. We we all are so but.
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Anyway, thank you for trying to tune in everyone.
3:02:35
Prayers to Charlie. Cook's family and hug your loved
3:02:40
ones a little tighter, folks, that's all I can say.
3:02:44
Take care of yourself. We'll see you on the next show,
3:02:52
folks, so God bless the one.