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- 0:07Speaker 1: It's nineteen degrees in Jacksonville, thirteen in Blackpool.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Do my mum's from Blackpool? It's nice black Ball, fourteen
- 0:13Speaker 2: in Belfast.
- 0:14Speaker 1: This is Till Talk, the official Jacksonville Jaguars, UK and
- 0:18Speaker 1: Ireland podcast, presented by Gallagher.
- 0:22Speaker 2: I'm Jay Lawrence, no relation.
- 0:24Speaker 1: He's Kira Am Suran Key. It's another victory podcast.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Did you just say it's nice in Blackpool?
- 0:31Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 0:31Speaker 3: I like Blackpool. Okay, let's move on. Yes, another victory podcast.
- 0:34Speaker 3: Absolutely fantastic. What a great couple of weeks. Man Like, unbelievable.
- 0:38Speaker 3: I can get used to this. I'm not gonna lie
- 0:39Speaker 3: to you this time.
- 0:40Speaker 1: The Jags triumphant in the divisional game with the Cls.
- 0:43Speaker 1: I saw so many people, by the way, Key saying
- 0:45Speaker 1: that this is and to quote, this is the biggest
- 0:49Speaker 1: let's put this in context, the biggest probably regular season
- 0:52Speaker 1: game ever for the Jags. I heard people say everything
- 0:56Speaker 1: in the Jags hands now thirty six nineteen over Indianapolis,
- 1:01Speaker 1: top of the AFC South. We're going to talk about
- 1:03Speaker 1: all of that in a moment with Jason Bell. But
- 1:06Speaker 1: first we will see you on Sunday. We're getting together
- 1:10Speaker 1: for our Christmas d at the Greenwood Pub in Victoria
- 1:14Speaker 1: in London, where we'll be recording an episode of Till
- 1:17Speaker 1: Talk whilst also watching the Jets Jags game December fourteenth.
- 1:21Speaker 1: So just to be clear that this upcoming Sunday you
- 1:25Speaker 1: are invite, would love to see you there, love for
- 1:27Speaker 1: you to come on down if you fancy, you know,
- 1:29Speaker 1: a festive get together with some of your mates.
- 1:31Speaker 2: The Greenwood has tables available that.
- 1:33Speaker 1: You can book via the Sports London website at Sport
- 1:37Speaker 1: London dot com under Greenwood. Those details are also on
- 1:41Speaker 1: Janguars dot co dot UK. We'd love to see you there.
- 1:44Speaker 1: We're gonna watch hopefully the Jags win against the Jets
- 1:48Speaker 1: and key this. There's some stuff going on, there's some
- 1:51Speaker 1: stuff that's going to be available to win, so.
- 1:54Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say right. Sarah from Jags UK has
- 1:58Speaker 3: just been showing us a few options of what might
- 2:00Speaker 3: be given away on Sunday and I said I'd take
- 2:05Speaker 3: any one of those things.
- 2:07Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:07Speaker 1: The one thing that we can say is definitely going
- 2:10Speaker 1: to be up for grabs is a signed Travon Walker jersey,
- 2:16Speaker 1: which is amazing and I am not eligible to get it, so.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Worth the trip alone. Just for that thing.
- 2:22Speaker 1: In my opinion, yeah, absolutely, And look, I'll tell you what,
- 2:25Speaker 1: more than anything else, it'd be really nice to have
- 2:27Speaker 1: a get together and just talk Jags whilst watching Jags.
- 2:31Speaker 1: We'd never get to talk and you j do we Yeah, yeah,
- 2:34Speaker 1: I know exactly. It's not as if we have a
- 2:36Speaker 1: weekly time set in the diary. But I'm really looking
- 2:40Speaker 1: forward to this anyway. I'm just going to repeat how
- 2:43Speaker 1: you can you know, book a table. It's at the
- 2:45Speaker 1: Greenwood Pub in Victoria in London if you go to
- 2:50Speaker 1: the Sport London website that's Sport London dot com under Greenwood.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Those details as well are on Jaguars dot co dot UK.
- 2:59Speaker 2: All right, let's onto that victory then, shall we.
- 3:01Speaker 1: And you know, it's just great going into this game
- 3:04Speaker 1: against the Jets actually with that huge victory over the.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Colts and this is fun. This is fun.
- 3:09Speaker 1: I mean I saw that coach Cohen said, I don't
- 3:11Speaker 1: know if we will ever get any respect, but that's fine,
- 3:14Speaker 1: and I.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Kind of think, do you know what, I don't need respect.
- 3:18Speaker 2: I don't need respect, do you know what?
- 3:19Speaker 4: Aside?
- 3:20Speaker 1: We just need w's just need those victories, just need
- 3:22Speaker 1: those victories and It's been a great few weeks, and
- 3:25Speaker 1: let's just quickly start with what you said before. We
- 3:30Speaker 1: started key about the Jags quarterback Trevor Lawrence.
- 3:35Speaker 3: So we've talked about it when coach Cohen came in,
- 3:39Speaker 3: we talked about it with Jason and one of the
- 3:41Speaker 3: questions we asked was do we think we are yet
- 3:44Speaker 3: to see the best of Trevor Lawrence. We got a
- 3:47Speaker 3: definitive answer to that on Sunday, which is yes, because
- 3:52Speaker 3: that is the best I have seen Trevor Lawrence play
- 3:55Speaker 3: as a Jacksonville Jaguar. That is the Trevor Lawrence that
- 3:58Speaker 3: we have been waiting to see since college. He was
- 4:02Speaker 3: phenomenal on Sunday. He did so. He did the stuff
- 4:06Speaker 3: that he usually does, which is short, sharp passes, using
- 4:09Speaker 3: his legs when he needs to, et cetera, et cetera.
- 4:12Speaker 3: But the deep balls, the vision and the amount of time. Okay,
- 4:16Speaker 3: let's also give credit to the offensive line because that
- 4:19Speaker 3: they were on fire on Sunday. The amount of time
- 4:23Speaker 3: that Trevor Lawrence had, he's looking up his vision, he's
- 4:26Speaker 3: scanning the field.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Those deep balls.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Honestly, I think that's the best we've seen him play
- 4:31Speaker 3: as the Jacksonville Jaguar. What do you think?
- 4:33Speaker 2: I definitely agree.
- 4:34Speaker 1: And there was there was there was a brilliant throw
- 4:37Speaker 1: where he rolled out to his left and he just
- 4:40Speaker 1: you know, just it was a dart right down the line.
- 4:42Speaker 2: I can't remember who was this.
- 4:43Speaker 1: It was to Tim Portrick for the touch, Tim Patrick,
- 4:46Speaker 1: and it was it was a really great throw. And
- 4:48Speaker 1: that's the sort of throw that you see quarterbacks do
- 4:51Speaker 1: and you think that's not good because you're sort of.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Against your body.
- 4:56Speaker 1: To do that.
- 4:57Speaker 3: So look at so it made me think of Patrick Mahomes.
- 5:01Speaker 3: When Patrick Mahomes is at his best. Some of the
- 5:03Speaker 3: stuff that he's doing is what you're taught not to do,
- 5:06Speaker 3: but it's so like instinctive to do it. And when
- 5:10Speaker 3: you like, honestly, probably three months ago, if you watch
- 5:13Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence do that, that that that doesn't work out.
- 5:15Speaker 3: But at the moment it's working out. He's got confidence,
- 5:18Speaker 3: he's trusting in his body and his instincts are firing,
- 5:21Speaker 3: and so he's getting away with plays like that because
- 5:24Speaker 3: he's now performing at the level that we all thought
- 5:26Speaker 3: that he could.
- 5:27Speaker 1: I want to shout out a few receivers as well,
- 5:29Speaker 1: because it feels like that the receiver group is getting
- 5:35Speaker 1: back to full health.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Obviously, please tell the top of your list.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacoby Mayer's is top of the list because I
- 5:41Speaker 1: think you know, not only has he been a great
- 5:43Speaker 1: option for Trevor Lawrence over the last few weeks, but
- 5:46Speaker 1: what the most important thing that Jacoby Mayas has done
- 5:49Speaker 1: is he's created this focus that the defense has to
- 5:54Speaker 1: think about, which of course makes it easier for these
- 5:57Speaker 1: other players. Now, let's share your spot on your spot
- 6:00Speaker 1: on now, he only caught for thirty nine yards in
- 6:04Speaker 1: this game, Jacoby Myers.
- 6:07Speaker 3: He opened up the rest of the field for everyone else.
- 6:09Speaker 3: Look at the so Brian Thomas Junior is catching those
- 6:12Speaker 3: deep passes because the routes are so much cleaner and crisper,
- 6:16Speaker 3: and Jacoby Myers is like he's something has changed in
- 6:20Speaker 3: that receiver's room because of him. In my opinion, he's
- 6:23Speaker 3: made such a difference. I think credit to Brian Thomas junr.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Of course, who hasn't had the season that he would
- 6:28Speaker 1: have expected. I think that that's fair to say. Yeah,
- 6:30Speaker 1: only three receptions but for eighty seven yards, and there
- 6:34Speaker 1: were a bunch of catches. Actually, I think maybe even
- 6:36Speaker 1: all of these catches are a couple of them. At
- 6:38Speaker 1: the very least, these weren't easy, easy balls, easy catches,
- 6:42Speaker 1: So credit to Trevor Lawrence for throwing them in the
- 6:44Speaker 1: first place. Credit to Brian Thomas junior Tim Patrick with
- 6:46Speaker 1: the most receptions in this game with five.
- 6:49Speaker 2: And then, and we spoke about.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Earlier on this season as well, Brenton Strange coming back
- 6:54Speaker 1: into the lineup, and I think that is I mean,
- 6:56Speaker 1: we speak about Jacoby Myers making a difference, but that
- 6:58Speaker 1: has made a massive difference as well.
- 7:00Speaker 3: I just want to look as well, because that boy
- 7:03Speaker 3: can block well.
- 7:04Speaker 1: I just want to look at the Indianapolis Colts for
- 7:05Speaker 1: a second as well. And I know that You've got
- 7:07Speaker 1: a big opinions on this, and I'll get to those
- 7:09Speaker 1: in a second. It has to be said that despite
- 7:12Speaker 1: I want to be clear that the Jags did catch
- 7:16Speaker 1: an interception from Daniel Jones prior to him going out,
- 7:20Speaker 1: but at the same was it the same play, Actually
- 7:22Speaker 1: it might have been that same play that.
- 7:23Speaker 3: He went out later, But he is Achilles Daniel Jones.
- 7:28Speaker 3: We you know, I know that he's in opposition and
- 7:30Speaker 3: the Cults are in ac South team, but you never
- 7:32Speaker 3: want to see that happen to anybody. You never want
- 7:34Speaker 3: to see anyone go down. But you know, as well
- 7:37Speaker 3: as beating the Colts in a divisional matchup, that him
- 7:41Speaker 3: being out for the rest of the season is huge
- 7:43Speaker 3: for the Jags.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that. I think it's difficult, isn't it
- 7:47Speaker 1: when you talk about players.
- 7:48Speaker 2: That are injured and whatever, and.
- 7:50Speaker 1: You don't want to come across when you're pleased about it,
- 7:53Speaker 1: because that's not the case whatsoever.
- 7:55Speaker 2: I completely understand what you're saying.
- 7:57Speaker 1: The other thing is obviously Anthony richardson the back cup quarterback.
- 8:01Speaker 2: He's out as.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Well Riley Leonard who came in and scored a touchdown
- 8:05Speaker 1: to his credit. I suppose he could possibly be injured
- 8:09Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Cults as well, which is bizarre. And
- 8:12Speaker 1: this is the most bizarre storyline, bizarre addition, potential addition,
- 8:17Speaker 1: and by the time that you're listen to this, you'll
- 8:18Speaker 1: know whether this has happened or not, I imagine. But the
- 8:21Speaker 1: Colts have tried out Philip rivers At, an actual grandfather
- 8:25Speaker 1: who is forty four years old, who hasn't played in
- 8:29Speaker 1: the NFL for five years. This is crazy, to be clear,
- 8:34Speaker 1: he in his time is you know, he's a potential
- 8:37Speaker 1: Hall of Famer.
- 8:38Speaker 4: He is.
- 8:39Speaker 1: He's not that far off or is it even that
- 8:41Speaker 1: far off from being nominated for the Hall of Fame.
- 8:43Speaker 1: That's how long it's been since he's actually played, which
- 8:46Speaker 1: is crazy. But you know, it looks like that there's
- 8:48Speaker 1: a chance that he might come back into the league,
- 8:51Speaker 1: which is absolutely crazy.
- 8:54Speaker 3: The same tryout, weren't they Yeah.
- 8:56Speaker 4: They will.
- 8:57Speaker 1: We'll go through the whole of the AFC South in
- 8:59Speaker 1: a little bit with Jason, but let's just finish on
- 9:03Speaker 1: Key what you said to me earlier about how the
- 9:08Speaker 1: Jags the Indianapolis did not lose this game.
- 9:12Speaker 2: The Jags won this game.
- 9:13Speaker 3: So yeah, I think so. A lot of the reporting
- 9:16Speaker 3: that I saw after the game was about Daniel Jones
- 9:20Speaker 3: going out and the Colts losing the game. That wasn't
- 9:24Speaker 3: the narrative that I saw. The narrative that I saw
- 9:27Speaker 3: was regardless of Daniel Jones being in the game or not,
- 9:30Speaker 3: the Jaguars absolutely dominated the Colts. The Jaguars won that game.
- 9:35Speaker 3: The Colts did not lose it. The Jaguars won because
- 9:37Speaker 3: they were a better team. They played incredibly well. Maybe
- 9:41Speaker 3: there's some sort of benefit to going under the radar
- 9:44Speaker 3: a little bit, and as coach said, maybe there's some
- 9:47Speaker 3: benefits for not being respected and so on and so forth.
- 9:49Speaker 3: But let's be clear. The Jaguars won that game. The
- 9:52Speaker 3: Colts did not lose it, and it had nothing to
- 9:55Speaker 3: do with Daniel Jones going out because they were dominating
- 9:58Speaker 3: before that happened, in my opinion, to do very well anyway,
- 10:03Speaker 3: enough for me absolute pleasure to welcome in Jason Bell
- 10:07Speaker 3: NFL pundit Jason, and to fill you in my take.
- 10:11Speaker 3: So after the game on Sunday, I had enough of
- 10:15Speaker 3: reading media talking about the Colts losing that game. The
- 10:19Speaker 3: Colts didn't win that game. The Colts didn't lose that game.
- 10:22Speaker 3: In my opinion, the Jaguars won that game. They were dominant.
- 10:25Speaker 3: What do you think I think?
- 10:27Speaker 4: I under send your pain. I get it. You're a
- 10:30Speaker 4: real fan, and that's what's important. I love it.
- 10:32Speaker 5: I will say this though, that's how you fuel the
- 10:35Speaker 5: locker room. That's how you go in with the bulletin
- 10:38Speaker 5: board material. We believe it, We put.
- 10:41Speaker 4: It on the board.
- 10:42Speaker 5: Listen, they don't believe you did it. Look at it,
- 10:45Speaker 5: read it. Are you going to prove it next week. Man,
- 10:48Speaker 5: Any motivation you can get you lean into. As a
- 10:51Speaker 5: head coach, sometimes you got to manufacture.
- 10:54Speaker 4: You've got to make somebody the enemy.
- 10:56Speaker 5: But if they already are telling you things you want
- 10:58Speaker 5: to hear or don't want to hear, oh that's a
- 11:01Speaker 5: blessing in disguise.
- 11:02Speaker 4: Just post it on the wall and let it rain.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Yeah, how much of a big deal is that? Because
- 11:06Speaker 2: I remember a couple of years.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Ago or a few years ago, I think the New
- 11:09Speaker 1: England Patriots had just come off of winning a Super
- 11:11Speaker 1: Bowl and they they were picturing themselves as underdogs and
- 11:14Speaker 1: it was like, well, you're.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Not, like you just won a super Bowl.
- 11:20Speaker 1: How much of a have you ever been in this
- 11:22Speaker 1: time when you've been in the dressing room where there's
- 11:25Speaker 1: been some sort of you know, motivating or motive trying
- 11:29Speaker 1: to you know, as you say, manufactured motivation where you've
- 11:31Speaker 1: just been like this is have you been able to
- 11:34Speaker 1: recognize it's manufactured or you're just buying in all the time.
- 11:36Speaker 5: Complacency is a killer. If you're complacent, it will ruin you.
- 11:41Speaker 5: And coaches know that. So is it manufactured?
- 11:45Speaker 4: Maybe? But we understand we're on a razor's edge.
- 11:49Speaker 5: We can feel when we're getting over confident, and if
- 11:52Speaker 5: the head coach feels that and puts us in our place,
- 11:54Speaker 5: we understand. Hey man, people are coming out for us.
- 11:58Speaker 5: They're trying to they're trying we're at the top of
- 12:00Speaker 5: the mountain. They're trying to bring us down. If you're
- 12:02Speaker 5: in that position, you understand it. So is it false motivation? No.
- 12:06Speaker 5: I think the best head coaches understand the temperature of
- 12:09Speaker 5: their team and they coach them accordingly. We've talked about it.
- 12:13Speaker 5: Sometimes you got to build them up. You gotta tell them, hey,
- 12:16Speaker 5: you're not as bad as they say you are. Look
- 12:18Speaker 5: how close you are. And when you're playing good, you
- 12:20Speaker 5: got to say, look how close we were to losing.
- 12:22Speaker 5: We got to fix this. We gotta make sure this
- 12:25Speaker 5: is all right now. You can't go from bad to great.
- 12:28Speaker 5: You gotta go from bad to good and then good
- 12:30Speaker 5: to great. So you always have to be aware of that.
- 12:33Speaker 3: Jason is I should have told I'm thinking, is coach
- 12:38Speaker 3: coming in the conversation for Coach of the season.
- 12:41Speaker 5: Yeah, he's up there for sure. I mean, this is
- 12:45Speaker 5: a tough year. There's some really good coaches. I mean,
- 12:48Speaker 5: what Mike Rabel's doing over there. You gotta applaud him.
- 12:52Speaker 5: But yeah, the thing I like about Liam calling what
- 12:54Speaker 5: he's done is the identity that he had and that
- 12:57Speaker 5: you hired him for. Is what you see his team
- 13:00Speaker 5: and that that's what it's all about. Trevor Lawrence. Man,
- 13:04Speaker 5: I mean, you see these dudes on the sideline. Now,
- 13:06Speaker 5: they're boys, they're homies. It's like, hey, man, did you
- 13:10Speaker 5: see that?
- 13:10Speaker 4: You see? I saw what you said? You know?
- 13:12Speaker 5: Okay, all right, that's what you brought him here for.
- 13:15Speaker 5: You said, man, somebody can come in. We know we
- 13:17Speaker 5: got a talented quarterback. It's the coaching. Will you see
- 13:21Speaker 5: his identity on the team? People are rallying behind him. Uh,
- 13:25Speaker 5: They're they're tougher, they're more physical. So absolutely, this looks
- 13:31Speaker 5: like the best hire they've had.
- 13:33Speaker 2: I'm interested.
- 13:36Speaker 1: Because obviously, just because you're a head coach doesn't mean
- 13:39Speaker 1: the all head coaches are the same and doesn't mean
- 13:41Speaker 1: that the way they handle.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Their players are the same.
- 13:43Speaker 1: And uh, coach coach seems like quite an open guy.
- 13:49Speaker 1: Have you had experiences before with completely different head coaches
- 13:53Speaker 1: and and and the way that they operate with the
- 13:58Speaker 1: with the personnel, with the players.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Do you see uh do you do? You have you did?
- 14:04Speaker 4: You know?
- 14:05Speaker 1: It's a difference when you were playing, you know, depending
- 14:07Speaker 1: on how they were you know, upbringing.
- 14:09Speaker 5: Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, you know, humans are different,
- 14:12Speaker 5: they have different personalities. I think what we would see
- 14:17Speaker 5: you had to be authentic. If you weren't yourself consistently
- 14:20Speaker 5: day and day out, how are we going to follow you?
- 14:22Speaker 5: And I think that's the hardest part of the position.
- 14:24Speaker 5: It's who you are, your identity, and we understand and
- 14:29Speaker 5: get used to that and know how to work around that.
- 14:32Speaker 5: But if you're changing as the wind blows, well we
- 14:34Speaker 5: don't respect you.
- 14:35Speaker 4: You know, if you're one.
- 14:36Speaker 5: Way, then the other way, or you treat some people
- 14:38Speaker 5: one way and then change.
- 14:40Speaker 4: Man, we're like this dude, we're not following him.
- 14:42Speaker 5: We we'll go to work, we'll do what we gotta
- 14:44Speaker 5: do to make sure we take care of our business.
- 14:46Speaker 5: But were not following you, not to the Promised Land.
- 14:49Speaker 5: It's not happening. And that's the hardest thing you hear
- 14:52Speaker 5: these coaches say, regardless of where they came from, whatever
- 14:55Speaker 5: treat they're off of, they had to go in be
- 14:58Speaker 5: themselves and let the players in the stand who and
- 15:00Speaker 5: what they were, and that was all they could control.
- 15:04Speaker 2: All right, let's go into the division.
- 15:06Speaker 1: Then fourth with the record of two and eleven, the
- 15:09Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans third dropping to third. I mean this is
- 15:14Speaker 1: can consider this from a few weeks ago the Indianapolis coach.
- 15:16Speaker 1: They're eight and five, though obviously not a bad record
- 15:18Speaker 1: by any means. Second, the Texans eight and five. Also
- 15:21Speaker 1: they beat the Chiefs top of the AFC South. Ye're
- 15:25Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jankuars nine and four. This is a really competitive division.
- 15:31Speaker 1: J Bell, what stands out for you?
- 15:33Speaker 4: You know, I'll be honest. I just I didn't think
- 15:37Speaker 4: Jacksonville will be here.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Who did? Who did?
- 15:41Speaker 3: That's what stands Let's be honest, Jay Bell.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Who did?
- 15:43Speaker 5: That's what stands out for me, And that it was
- 15:47Speaker 5: this competitive. I mean, we've been talking about these teams
- 15:50Speaker 5: all year. We usually don't do that, not recently, but
- 15:55Speaker 5: you know, when I was playing, obviously Peyton Manning was
- 15:58Speaker 5: in Indianapolis, so it was all you know, here you
- 16:01Speaker 5: go walking in there, you know, can you beat Peyton Manning?
- 16:04Speaker 4: Can you make it happen?
- 16:05Speaker 5: But now you're looking at it, you had three good
- 16:08Speaker 5: quarterbacks playing well, you got a rookie that's gonna be,
- 16:11Speaker 5: that's gonna be. He's all right, man. I mean this
- 16:14Speaker 5: boy in Tennessee could play. They've done well. So you
- 16:17Speaker 5: look at good quarterback play, unexpected team dominance, especially how
- 16:22Speaker 5: fast Indianapolis started, and then you look at the best
- 16:25Speaker 5: defense in the league is in your divisions, in my opinion,
- 16:29Speaker 5: with the Texans. So all those are surprises. But no
- 16:32Speaker 5: matter what, Jacksonville found its way to the.
- 16:34Speaker 2: Top, and let's hope it stays that way.
- 16:37Speaker 4: James will be a battle.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Let's do the big five questions.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Jay Bell, where was the game won against the Indianapolis Coats.
- 16:45Speaker 5: I'm gonna start with the basic, boring thing, and I
- 16:48Speaker 5: believe in it.
- 16:49Speaker 4: Man.
- 16:49Speaker 5: That offensive line, the offensive line and the protection. I
- 16:53Speaker 5: got a roll with that Trevor had. This might have
- 16:55Speaker 5: been the best game I've ever seen him play. I
- 16:57Speaker 5: just love the way he looked and all that being
- 17:01Speaker 5: said Devin.
- 17:02Speaker 4: Lloyd, Man, this dude is the man. He is the man.
- 17:06Speaker 5: I said all that because you know, I love I
- 17:09Speaker 5: love the way the receivers are looking.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Everybody has a role. I love this.
- 17:13Speaker 5: You got your deep guy, you got your intermediate guy.
- 17:15Speaker 5: You know you got a physical, big target. I like
- 17:19Speaker 5: all that, But my gosh, Devin Lloyd, they're gonna have
- 17:21Speaker 5: to pay him. They're gonna have to back up the
- 17:23Speaker 5: truck man. They're gonna have to back up the truck
- 17:25Speaker 5: for this dude.
- 17:26Speaker 4: He is balling.
- 17:27Speaker 5: And this is why we talk about coaching and understanding
- 17:31Speaker 5: your personnel. He's playing at a high level because they
- 17:35Speaker 5: understand the skill set and they're putting in a position
- 17:37Speaker 5: to win.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Now, which jack's playing, you're giving the game bow.
- 17:41Speaker 5: I gotta give it to Devin Man. I gotta give
- 17:43Speaker 5: it to him, Bro, he gonna get he's getting. I mean,
- 17:45Speaker 5: I always look for a defensive guy, but when your
- 17:47Speaker 5: middle backer is playing like this, first of all, you're
- 17:50Speaker 5: fast defense if your middle linebacker is fast because between
- 17:54Speaker 5: the numbers, he can clean up a mess. So that
- 17:56Speaker 5: makes everybody else faster. And they're playing fast because of him.
- 18:00Speaker 1: Talk to me a little bit about the Jack's defense
- 18:02Speaker 1: and how you think that they've been playing, especially over
- 18:04Speaker 1: the last few weeks.
- 18:05Speaker 5: Well, I like him man Kempanelli, right, I like his structure.
- 18:11Speaker 5: What I love about them is when you're in zone coverage,
- 18:15Speaker 5: when I watch you and I see you match routes,
- 18:19Speaker 5: I see the awareness of something comes in your zone.
- 18:21Speaker 5: You're not just covering grass. It lets me know a
- 18:24Speaker 5: couple of things. You've been coached up well in the
- 18:26Speaker 5: concepts right, you understand what's attacking you, and you have
- 18:29Speaker 5: a great field of a game. The way you look
- 18:31Speaker 5: at the quarterback, the way you read routes, all that
- 18:33Speaker 5: that's coaching. You know, these guys can play, but that's coaching.
- 18:37Speaker 5: So I love that about him. I always watch from
- 18:40Speaker 5: a passing game perspective because that's what they do. And then,
- 18:43Speaker 5: like I said, when you have when you're causing this
- 18:46Speaker 5: many turnovers and you're having people have career years, it
- 18:50Speaker 5: says a lot man And you know new Hire you
- 18:53Speaker 5: didn't know. But they're just they're just their awareness and
- 18:56Speaker 5: they've gotten better as the season progress, which means that
- 18:58Speaker 5: their coaches are really good chopping up tape.
- 19:02Speaker 2: And what was the key moment on the turning point
- 19:04Speaker 2: we may have missed in the coach game.
- 19:07Speaker 5: Well, like I said earlier about the offensive line, you know,
- 19:11Speaker 5: not giving up any sacks man when when you think
- 19:13Speaker 5: about Trevor you want him to play well, And the
- 19:17Speaker 5: key moment is the protection man over and over again.
- 19:20Speaker 5: The key moment is there wasn't key moments. He didn't
- 19:22Speaker 5: get you know what I'm saying. He didn't get blown
- 19:24Speaker 5: up in the pocket.
- 19:25Speaker 4: You know. So for me, when you give up zero sacks,
- 19:28Speaker 4: I gotta give it to the old line.
- 19:30Speaker 2: What needs to improve?
- 19:33Speaker 4: Man?
- 19:34Speaker 5: I say all this, but man, I know the weather
- 19:36Speaker 5: was a little tricky, but we can't drop anymore.
- 19:39Speaker 4: Like let's let's keep I'm gonna keep knocking on the door. Man.
- 19:43Speaker 5: But if we can we can do that, that'll be
- 19:46Speaker 5: I mean, we'll keep climbing if that happens. And make
- 19:50Speaker 5: sure I'm telling you you have you're having success.
- 19:54Speaker 4: It's an emotional game.
- 19:56Speaker 5: Stay focused, no let downs, man, I mean down and
- 20:02Speaker 5: down out.
- 20:03Speaker 4: You gotta stay locked in.
- 20:05Speaker 1: And how do the Jags beat the Jets this weekend
- 20:08Speaker 1: and get to ten and full?
- 20:11Speaker 5: First of all, you know, I hate using that word
- 20:14Speaker 5: trap game. I don't believe in it, but man, do
- 20:17Speaker 5: not go, do not sleep, Do not sleep. And what
- 20:21Speaker 5: I think if you can win in the trenches, right
- 20:24Speaker 5: if that d line Josh Allen Hines taken over the
- 20:29Speaker 5: offensive line, if they can dominate, you can win, man
- 20:32Speaker 5: traves YTM man I'm loving the way he's playing and
- 20:34Speaker 5: carrying the rock man, control the trenches.
- 20:37Speaker 4: You can make it happen.
- 20:39Speaker 1: Ten and full j bell sounds nice, don't it sounds nice?
- 20:42Speaker 1: I mean I've got ahead of myself, but it sounds nice.
- 20:45Speaker 4: Guarantee a winning record.
- 20:46Speaker 5: I mean, you know, this was an interesting year, the
- 20:49Speaker 5: way they built this whole program, Tony Boselli in his role,
- 20:54Speaker 5: and how they kind of looked at this program as
- 20:56Speaker 5: a whole. Right, it's working, you know, it's it's the
- 21:00Speaker 5: way they set this thing up. Man, this is a
- 21:03Speaker 5: physical team. They have an identity. They're starting to believe
- 21:07Speaker 5: in themselves, or they do believe in themselves. I mean,
- 21:09Speaker 5: the future is looking bright for the Jacksonville Jaguars both
- 21:12Speaker 5: show and look.
- 21:14Speaker 1: I know that I'm getting ahead of myself. I know
- 21:16Speaker 1: that I'm getting ahead of myself. But Jack's third seed
- 21:21Speaker 1: right now. Now, obviously that might change, but let's just
- 21:24Speaker 1: pretend it's not. That means that they would play as
- 21:29Speaker 1: it stands. The I'm just double checking to make sure
- 21:33Speaker 1: I get this right. The Buffalo bills.
- 21:37Speaker 2: In Buffalo, no in Jacksonville that I want to just
- 21:44Speaker 2: let's just quickly.
- 21:45Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm getting head myself ahead of
- 21:46Speaker 1: myself a little bit. But it looks if they stayed
- 21:49Speaker 1: the same third or fourth seed, let's say, then it'd
- 21:53Speaker 1: be charges. It would be one of these three likely
- 21:57Speaker 1: charges bills or Texans opinions.
- 22:03Speaker 2: I know I'm getting ahead of myself. I know I'm
- 22:04Speaker 2: getting ahead of myself.
- 22:05Speaker 4: You're asking me who I want to play over?
- 22:07Speaker 1: I'm asking, I'm asking. I guess I'm just asking you,
- 22:09Speaker 1: like you know, this is i'd rather play. It's quite
- 22:13Speaker 1: I think it's quite difficult. I mean, it's always gonna
- 22:15Speaker 1: difficult in the planets, but sometimes you get that that
- 22:18Speaker 1: first round game in the world cold round that you think, okay,
- 22:22Speaker 1: but these three, those those three they're know easy, are they?
- 22:25Speaker 5: So it's hard to win a game in the playoffs.
- 22:28Speaker 5: But anybody can beat anybody on any given day.
- 22:31Speaker 4: That is for sure. That can happen. But to continue
- 22:35Speaker 4: to do.
- 22:35Speaker 5: That, you got to get better, better and better, and
- 22:38Speaker 5: whatever your flaws are, flaws are will come out. All
- 22:41Speaker 5: those games are tough and difficult, but you never if
- 22:45Speaker 5: you can get off you can turn the ball over
- 22:48Speaker 5: and you can run the ball and be physical on offense,
- 22:51Speaker 5: you can beat anybody.
- 22:52Speaker 4: You really can.
- 22:54Speaker 5: It's a possession game, but you are getting ahead of yourself,
- 22:59Speaker 5: ahead of us.
- 23:00Speaker 4: Say, I spent ten minutes talking.
- 23:02Speaker 2: About I'm trying to plumber Jenery.
- 23:07Speaker 3: Fair enough, that's fair Jason, to go back on one
- 23:10Speaker 3: thing that you said about Tony Bisselli and then on
- 23:15Speaker 3: getting better and better at the start of the season.
- 23:18Speaker 3: That's what James Gladston and Tony Biselli said. They said
- 23:21Speaker 3: that their only goal, a successful season to them, looks
- 23:24Speaker 3: like getting better and better each week. And when you
- 23:26Speaker 3: look at week one compared to week fourteen, I would argue, Mom,
- 23:30Speaker 3: they've done that.
- 23:32Speaker 5: Yes, And let's be honest, everybody's gonna look at the quarterback.
- 23:37Speaker 4: M that. I mean, all the other stuff is cool.
- 23:39Speaker 5: I mean, we dive into this all day, but what
- 23:42Speaker 5: does your average fan who's there buying a jersey having
- 23:45Speaker 5: a good time.
- 23:46Speaker 4: How is our quarterback playing? And that's what you've seen.
- 23:49Speaker 5: You've seen the growth in the quarterback being familiar with
- 23:53Speaker 5: the system, with the play caller, understanding that his coach
- 23:57Speaker 5: and his play caller has faith in him. You can
- 24:00Speaker 5: see that he's like, dude, let it rip, bro throw it,
- 24:04Speaker 5: Like don't sit here, and worry about what I'm gonna say.
- 24:08Speaker 5: Don't you worry, you feel it, you do it, because
- 24:12Speaker 5: I don't know, I wasn't in the locker room, but
- 24:14Speaker 5: maybe the past Rezine was different.
- 24:17Speaker 4: This right here, it's all good.
- 24:19Speaker 5: Go for it and you see that confidence he has
- 24:21Speaker 5: and that's what matters.
- 24:22Speaker 3: And talking about seedings and playoffs and all of this.
- 24:26Speaker 3: It is December the best month to be an NFL
- 24:30Speaker 3: fun it's my favorite.
- 24:32Speaker 4: It's stressful. Yeah, right, you know what it is. It's
- 24:38Speaker 4: the hope.
- 24:38Speaker 5: Man, It's the when if your team has no hope,
- 24:41Speaker 5: you just mad, You're thinking about draft and all this
- 24:44Speaker 5: kind of stuff.
- 24:44Speaker 4: But it's the hope. But you gotta love it.
- 24:46Speaker 5: Man. These matchups later on in the season, these games
- 24:49Speaker 5: we're gonna see all the way to the end. I mean,
- 24:51Speaker 5: the NFL knows what they're doing, let's be honest when
- 24:53Speaker 5: they build these schedules. But my goodness, it is not disappointing.
- 24:57Speaker 5: It's gonna be a fantastic stress to the Yeah.
- 25:02Speaker 1: I mean, I often call July and August hope season
- 25:05Speaker 1: because every single team, every single supporter can be a
- 25:09Speaker 1: you know, can can hope no matter who you support,
- 25:13Speaker 1: and The truth of it is that by December so
- 25:16Speaker 1: many of these teams, that hope is gone and you're
- 25:18Speaker 1: looking forward to the next year or the draft or whatever, or.
- 25:21Speaker 2: You have them.
- 25:22Speaker 1: I want to but that's what I wanted to say,
- 25:24Speaker 1: is that actually maybe I should change that and say, no,
- 25:27Speaker 1: actually December is hope season because because not because you
- 25:31Speaker 1: have less teams that can possibly be hopeful, but that hope,
- 25:36Speaker 1: That hope is sky high. That hope is sky high,
- 25:39Speaker 1: and I've fallen victim to it.
- 25:41Speaker 2: Can you tell? Can you tell? Let's move on to
- 25:44Speaker 2: the predictions.
- 25:46Speaker 4: In the tournament.
- 25:48Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
- 25:49Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, and then suddenly your stomach feels
- 25:53Speaker 1: like it's full of butterflies.
- 25:56Speaker 3: This year feels very different to December last year's.
- 26:01Speaker 4: Way stressed out.
- 26:04Speaker 1: Okay, predictions, the Mini Trevor Lawrence Figurine up for grabs.
- 26:08Speaker 2: Jason and the Jags won thirty six nine. We all
- 26:12Speaker 2: went for a win, a close game. We all said
- 26:16Speaker 2: so a point each.
- 26:18Speaker 1: No bonus points this time around, which I'm pleased about.
- 26:21Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that Key got some bonus points over
- 26:25Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, which I'm feeling a bit
- 26:27Speaker 1: funny about So.
- 26:28Speaker 2: Jason's on twelve, I'm on ten. Key is on nine.
- 26:33Speaker 1: Thankfully he's still bottom of the lot this week the Jets,
- 26:39Speaker 1: Key go on, you took a couple of weeks off,
- 26:41Speaker 1: so go on, you go first.
- 26:42Speaker 2: You got you took it, you can go first.
- 26:45Speaker 3: Absolute blowout twenty eight to three, Pooh twenty eight three.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Can I just say, by the way, that if you're
- 26:55Speaker 1: listening to the podcast right now, j Bell's face just
- 26:59Speaker 1: just felt like he just just looked like he smelt
- 27:01Speaker 1: something funky after you said that, as if.
- 27:04Speaker 2: As if you're like, that was I don't agree with that.
- 27:06Speaker 4: Jabo, Yeah, that was that was. I mean, you know,
- 27:09Speaker 4: you're standing on something. If you don't stand for something,
- 27:11Speaker 4: you fall off everything.
- 27:13Speaker 2: You're out with a line today, j is a good line.
- 27:15Speaker 4: I get you. You're standing own business on that one.
- 27:19Speaker 2: Go into a prediction, Jabo.
- 27:21Speaker 4: Twenty four to ten.
- 27:24Speaker 2: That's not that different. I think it's difference.
- 27:28Speaker 4: Yeah, you ain't giving them a touchdown.
- 27:31Speaker 3: No, we'll say, we'll say we'll see next Sunday.
- 27:33Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I don't think it's going to
- 27:36Speaker 5: be a huge scoring game, Like they're not going to
- 27:38Speaker 5: score a bunch of points. Man, you know, I see
- 27:42Speaker 5: Jacksonville maybe getting in the thirties. Maybe you know, but
- 27:46Speaker 5: you know it's gonna be tight game. They think about it.
- 27:49Speaker 5: You played it, win the game. If they can't score,
- 27:51Speaker 5: don't give them the ball back, take up the clock,
- 27:54Speaker 5: chew it up, get in the end zone, play keep away.
- 27:57Speaker 4: Make it hard on him.
- 27:59Speaker 2: And I think this is.
- 28:01Speaker 1: Going to be about turnovers, and I think that this
- 28:05Speaker 1: is going to be a positive game for the Jags
- 28:08Speaker 1: in that respect against the Jets, I would not be
- 28:12Speaker 1: surprised to see other special teams turnover. Would not be
- 28:14Speaker 1: surprised to see a really good field position for Trevor
- 28:18Speaker 1: Lawrence and Code because of a defensive turnover. I do,
- 28:22Speaker 1: let's breach the thirties. Let's breach the thirties. Let's go
- 28:25Speaker 1: with a nice cool thirty one fourteen?
- 28:29Speaker 2: Why not?
- 28:30Speaker 3: Do you know what Jay? I think? Either way, the
- 28:32Speaker 3: Greenwood Pub in Victoria is going to get very loud
- 28:35Speaker 3: on Sunday, and I'm looking forward to it.
- 28:40Speaker 5: I'm feeling Gwynn hates the Jacksonville Jaguars. Remember he's a
- 28:43Speaker 5: Houston Texans, so it's going to be He's letting them know.
- 28:48Speaker 2: But who's playing quarterback for the Jets? Jay Bell?
- 28:50Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, I just feel like if
- 28:52Speaker 1: you go through two quarterbacks and they're just sort of
- 28:55Speaker 1: resorting to justin Fields because it doesn't seem like they
- 28:57Speaker 1: want to play him.
- 28:58Speaker 2: I feel like the Jags have a good a good
- 29:00Speaker 2: chance game.
- 29:01Speaker 5: So yeah, they're gonna hunt. For sure, They're gonna hunt.
- 29:04Speaker 5: Leadership has to step up.
- 29:06Speaker 4: Man. We do not play down to our opponent. We
- 29:08Speaker 4: go dominate.
- 29:09Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 29:11Speaker 5: That's what I want you all to do this week.
- 29:12Speaker 5: Don't play down to your opponent and whatever you do
- 29:15Speaker 5: in life, dominate and then we'll talk next week.
- 29:17Speaker 4: If you don't, I'm gonna find out.
- 29:20Speaker 2: I'm gonna find out.
- 29:22Speaker 1: Just to clarify, it's it's in Jacksonville. It's in Jacksonville.
- 29:25Speaker 1: This even better, even better, even better. J Bell will
- 29:29Speaker 1: see you on the other side of a w being
- 29:33Speaker 1: way too confident, way too confident.
- 29:35Speaker 3: I'm gonna go and dominate.
- 29:37Speaker 1: You Gotta tell you what, You're not gonna speak to
- 29:38Speaker 1: J Bell for a while and then you're just gonna
- 29:40Speaker 1: get a text in a couple in a few years time.
- 29:42Speaker 2: Just been like, hey, Key, I've been been checking up
- 29:45Speaker 2: on you.
- 29:46Speaker 4: Don't.
- 29:46Speaker 3: I don't see that you'll dominate the dominance dominance.
- 29:50Speaker 5: Hey man, we haven't set the rules. We're just saying dominate.
- 29:53Speaker 5: I know what it looks like.
- 29:59Speaker 2: That was good.
- 30:00Speaker 3: I like, you.
- 30:03Speaker 1: Know what key new coach for the Jags, new general manager.
- 30:09Speaker 1: They probably have something to do with the fact that
- 30:10Speaker 1: the Jags have had a decent season so far.
- 30:12Speaker 3: But do you know what the biggest factor.
- 30:14Speaker 2: It's not the biggest factor.
- 30:15Speaker 1: I think the biggest factor is that, well, what's the
- 30:17Speaker 1: big difference between this year and last year?
- 30:20Speaker 2: I think we can all say it in Unison. It's
- 30:22Speaker 2: the j Bell factor.
- 30:24Speaker 3: Bell the factor, isn't it getting involved into your talk
- 30:28Speaker 3: Jay Bell's positive team talks, his monologues, and.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Suddenly the Jags seem to be doing all right? Is
- 30:38Speaker 1: it because of j Bell?
- 30:40Speaker 2: I think it might be. I think it might be.
- 30:43Speaker 2: I don't.
- 30:44Speaker 3: I don't, I don't think, you know, I don't think. Yeah,
- 30:47Speaker 3: I know, Jabel has turned this team around from the
- 30:52Speaker 3: from the ground up.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Well down to j Bell. Well, do you know what
- 30:55Speaker 2: I like to think?
- 30:56Speaker 1: As well as because obviously, as you just mentioned there,
- 30:58Speaker 1: he's got he's got the older the team talks and
- 31:01Speaker 1: stuff that he does on the podcast. I do like
- 31:03Speaker 1: to think that prior to you know, like you see
- 31:05Speaker 1: all the players with the headphones on, they' getting hyped up,
- 31:07Speaker 1: they listen to music or whatever. I like to think
- 31:09Speaker 1: that there's there's one player that's like people someone can
- 31:12Speaker 1: go up to and be like, hey, what you listen
- 31:14Speaker 1: to J Bell's team talk on deal Talk. You know,
- 31:18Speaker 1: just like to think I like to think that that's
- 31:20Speaker 1: the case tal Talk Team Talk. How have we never
- 31:24Speaker 1: thought of something to do with that? I feel like
- 31:26Speaker 1: that's a missle feature idea, like right there. Anyway, choose
- 31:31Speaker 1: to j Bell Jets on Sunday key six pm with
- 31:36Speaker 1: us at the Greenwood. I'm very excited about this. I'm
- 31:40Speaker 1: excited about this game as well. I'm hopeful that we're
- 31:43Speaker 1: going to see Jags win. I'm feeling I'm feeling positive.
- 31:46Speaker 1: I'm feeling positive.
- 31:48Speaker 3: Do you know what? December is a lot of fun
- 31:51Speaker 3: when your team is performing the way the Jacksonville Jaguars
- 31:54Speaker 3: are performing, and I am going to make the absolute
- 31:58Speaker 3: most of it. Bigger the last four weeks where the
- 32:03Speaker 3: Jaguars is it's four wins in a row, I'm fairly sure, right, Yeah,
- 32:07Speaker 3: I think it's four weeks in a row. The Jaguars
- 32:09Speaker 3: are one. It is a lot of fun. I'm having
- 32:12Speaker 3: a thoroughly great time. Thank you for asking.
- 32:14Speaker 2: It's almost as if winning is fun.
- 32:20Speaker 3: It's yes, it's certainly better than the alternative.
- 32:23Speaker 1: I just want to be clear as well, because obviously
- 32:24Speaker 1: there was the game at Wembley Stadium against the Rams
- 32:26Speaker 1: that the Jags lost. Since then, it's been five wins
- 32:33Speaker 1: out of six, and that that one loss was that
- 32:37Speaker 1: last second loss to the Texans. Yeah, so which should
- 32:42Speaker 1: have been a victory obviously. So five wins out of six,
- 32:44Speaker 1: that is some good going and hopefully thank you week, yeah,
- 32:47Speaker 1: cheers by week. Hopefully it will be another victory on Sunday.
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