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Mac & Bone Hour 3: NFL Week 5 Recap · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt.
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  Speaker 3: Posh, come on, Posh.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 2: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Do it live.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's do it, baby. Let's talk a little NFL, man.
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  Speaker 4: The Panthers were off this week. Bryce continued his magical
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  Speaker 4: media tour with the game day crew in Tuscaloosa. Saw
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  Speaker 4: Bama lose a heartbreaker late. Then I'm sure we'll talk
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  Speaker 4: about more in the 9 o'clock hour. But damn, Georgia
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  Speaker 4: is good. That defense, that running game without their top
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  Speaker 4: two backs bone. Gunner Stockton, I think he's the most
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  Speaker 4: underrated quarterback in America, that dude.
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  Speaker 5: That's the best team in America. To go to Bama...
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  Speaker 5: and do what they did. But I'll also say this.
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  Speaker 5: Alabama also is not far off from maybe being the
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  Speaker 5: best team in the world. Alabama is a chicken tender
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  Speaker 5: as well. We can take Texas back, I think. out
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  Speaker 5: of that equation right now and put Bama up there
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  Speaker 5: into that. Texas is not impressing me. I know they
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  Speaker 5: lost the other day in a rivalry game, but I
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  Speaker 5: don't believe in them one iota.
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  Speaker 4: Dude, Arch Manning seems like a good kid. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to be mean-spirited about it, but Arch Manning, again,
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  Speaker 4: I'll say it again, it's just he's all right. But
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  Speaker 4: those two interceptions, Bone, were completely ill-advised. And I know
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  Speaker 4: it's unfair to him in a way to compare him
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  Speaker 4: to his uncles, but I said it a couple weeks ago.
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  Speaker 4: He makes dim-witted plays where you're like, I thought you
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  Speaker 4: were supposed to be cerebral because you're a Manning.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: And his ceiling is good, not great, but he's also
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  Speaker 5: got a floor that's really low. Yeah, I don't buy him.
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  Speaker 5: I don't believe in him leading Texas on some deep
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  Speaker 5: playoff run.
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  Speaker 3: And Sark also could be a problem.
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  Speaker 4: And if you're an NFL fan that needs a quarterback,
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  Speaker 4: obviously we don't know what that's like at all, baby,
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  Speaker 4: not at all. But if you're an NFL fan that
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  Speaker 4: needs a quarterback, I would want no part of Arch
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  Speaker 4: Manning on my NFL team.
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  Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't either.
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  Speaker 4: None whatsoever. As I promised to talk NFL bone, and
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  Speaker 4: we start by talking more college football. What's up, Fetty?
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  Speaker 2: Is that the best rivalry in the sport?
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  Speaker 6: I know we look at Ohio State, Michigan, Auburn, Alabama,
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  Speaker 6: but that game, I sent this tweet out, it gives
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  Speaker 6: me J. Billis, Duke Carolina vibes. It feels like that
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  Speaker 6: game always delivers. And I was, for all the crap
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  Speaker 6: John Mateer has endured the last year and a half
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  Speaker 6: in Norman, I was happy he had that moment.
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  Speaker 3: Two big throws. Two big throws.
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  Speaker 6: And whenever one of those schools have their backs against
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  Speaker 6: the wall, they show up.
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  Speaker 2: That was a big win for Venables, too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he needed that.
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  Speaker 4: Bones said it last week. Bones said, crazy things happen
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  Speaker 4: in this game. And I said, crazy like Oklahoma throwing
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  Speaker 4: for more than 140. But they didn't need much of it.
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  Speaker 4: They got a special teams and a defensive touchdown.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it never matters in that game what
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  Speaker 5: those teams are doing.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Throw out the record books.
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  Speaker 4: Bone, it's your 700th good call that I poo-pooed. You
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean? I had a hot weekend. And
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  Speaker 4: I probably poo-pooed every one of your picks that you
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  Speaker 4: ended up making.
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  Speaker 3: Bone just says, poo-poo away, you dummy. I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: go make cash. I'm going to go make cash. All right.
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  Speaker 4: You can make cash, Bone, by betting against NFC South teams,
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  Speaker 4: not named the Carolina Panthers, of course. So let's do
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  Speaker 4: the NFL recap segment. And I think, Bone, the key
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  Speaker 4: parts are NFC South rivals lose. My God, that was enjoyable.
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  Speaker 4: And then we've got to get to the way Philly.
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  Speaker 4: lost and Washington did not win. It ended with Sirianni
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  Speaker 4: and Dan Quinn apologizing after the games. It is just
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  Speaker 4: epic knuckleheadedness. What did you, what, like... When you watch
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  Speaker 4: New Orleans get shut down by Minnesota, I'm not going
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  Speaker 4: to act like Minnesota's not doing that to everybody right
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  Speaker 4: now on defense.
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  Speaker 3: That Flores defense is nasty.
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  Speaker 4: And when you watch the Falcons not take advantage of
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  Speaker 4: Lamar being out, Bone, what were your takeaways? Do you
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  Speaker 4: fear either one of those teams as a Panther fan?
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't.
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  Speaker 5: The Panthers already proved this year that they're better than
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  Speaker 5: Atlanta with or without Penix. I don't— I don't think
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  Speaker 5: Penix back is something... Yes, he does elevate them more, obviously,
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  Speaker 5: than the quarterbacks they had, but Panthers shut out Penix
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  Speaker 5: last year 30-0, and New Orleans, you know, I was
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  Speaker 5: off on them. I thought they would be equal to
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  Speaker 5: the Panthers this year.
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  Speaker 3: But they just.
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  Speaker 5: they're not right either. So I don't fear anybody in
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  Speaker 5: the NFC South. I'm not saying that these teams... Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: fear is probably not the right word for this. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not saying that something can't happen to the Panthers along
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  Speaker 5: the way where they get clipped. They're not ready to
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  Speaker 5: overlook anybody, but I don't lose sleep back over those
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  Speaker 5: three teams by any means.
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  Speaker 4: I just find myself feeling so good about our place
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  Speaker 4: in the division, and I know what you're thinking.
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  Speaker 3: Mac, when you start feeling good, I start feeling bad.
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  Speaker 3: I know what you're thinking.
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  Speaker 4: But just the injuries that we've had to deal with,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, Bone, whatever that publication was to put
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  Speaker 4: the chart out, most games missed with injury this year.
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  Speaker 4: And to look at us now alone in first, albeit
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  Speaker 4: at just 2-2, after what happened with the Falcons last night,
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  Speaker 4: and of course the Saints dropped now to 1-4, Falcons
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  Speaker 4: to 2-3, I just feel like we get healthy. And
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  Speaker 4: I just feel like you might actually see some consistency
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  Speaker 4: out of this team. If they can do what they're
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  Speaker 4: doing now, Bone, with all these injuries. And I look
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  Speaker 4: at the Saints and say, I just don't think you're
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  Speaker 4: ready yet. Like, I'm not going to completely say Tyler
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  Speaker 4: shucks a bomb just because he had 96 stinking passing
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  Speaker 4: yards because that Minnesota defense will overwhelm you. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: going to badmouth Kellen Moore. But I don't think they're
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  Speaker 4: at one in four. I don't think they're ready, Bone,
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  Speaker 4: for where people tried to place them as the trendy
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  Speaker 4: offseason pick.
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  Speaker 5: Atlanta needed that win over Baltimore without Lamar because we
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  Speaker 5: went through it last week, but we'll do it again.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of these are at home or.
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  Speaker 5: Cincinnati is an international game, but it's Chicago. We'll see
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  Speaker 5: about Caleb Williams. I don't know yet, but it's Chicago
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  Speaker 5: for the Falcons, San Francisco, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Minnesota, five
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  Speaker 5: of their next six games. Chicago, San Fran, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: So they needed that last night because they got a
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  Speaker 5: lot of losses.
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  Speaker 3: Coming their way. They did.
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  Speaker 5: San Francisco, I think, has been the most impressive team
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  Speaker 5: in the sport so far this year.
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  Speaker 4: You ain't kidding. And they've been like the second most
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  Speaker 4: injured team, once again. And they're sitting there 5-0, go
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  Speaker 4: to Seattle, get a damn dub.
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  Speaker 5: And actually, Matt, they have to go Minnesota. They go
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  Speaker 5: Kansas City, Minnesota, Detroit, back to back to back at
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  Speaker 5: the end of this thing. That's not easy for them.
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  Speaker 4: That's the thing. It's like, Art, even if we were to...
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  Speaker 4: And I think we've got some winnable games coming up
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  Speaker 4: despite our injuries. I think we're about ready to start
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  Speaker 4: getting some guys back to bone. But Atlanta's not a
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  Speaker 4: team that's going to run away from us with that schedule.
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  Speaker 3: So I just.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know about y'all, but man, that bye week
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  Speaker 4: made me feel even better about what's going on in Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know now if Pennix will be out for
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  Speaker 4: a while with that rib injury from last night. We
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  Speaker 4: saw Tua's horrendous interception. So it's like, if he has
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  Speaker 4: to start, give me more of that. Man, I'm just
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  Speaker 4: feeling good. You mentioned, let's see here. What did we, oh,
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  Speaker 4: you mentioned the Bears. It looks like there's a chance
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  Speaker 4: they could get Caleb Williams back this week, and I
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  Speaker 4: think they might need it, Bone. I feel like Ben
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  Speaker 4: Johnson used all his magic offensive dust and might not
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  Speaker 4: have any left. And how about, here's another one where
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  Speaker 4: I poo-pooed something you said, and then I watched.
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  Speaker 3: You are poo-pooing all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: See, I got a problem, seriously. Captain Poo-Poo.
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  Speaker 5: I need to take some, like, Sports Take X-Lax or something.
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  Speaker 5: It's the most station poo-poo since Slaney was roaming around.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, that only happened twice on the air, right? That's it,
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  Speaker 3: just twice. Yeah, only twice. It can happen to anybody.
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  Speaker 4: The Green Bay passing attack, you have been saying you're
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  Speaker 4: worried about it, and I've been like, you know, have
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  Speaker 4: you seen Jordan Love play this year? Well, they got
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  Speaker 4: that thing cranked up yesterday. Jordan Love, Golden, and Watson.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, against our backup corners in a
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  Speaker 4: couple weeks on Thursday night. On a short week to
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  Speaker 4: prepare for that also. Yeah, when we looked at the
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  Speaker 4: matchups that worried me the most, that was up there
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  Speaker 4: because their style, Mac, is they are a risk-taking, down
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  Speaker 4: the field, we will target the DBs over and over
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  Speaker 4: and over and over. And that's what I've been worried about.
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  Speaker 4: I did it yesterday at Chicago. Yeah, they did. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, okay, if Jordan Love is going to play
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  Speaker 4: like that, we might have something to worry about. But again,
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  Speaker 4: the league is so week-to-week. We all try to act
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  Speaker 4: like things carry over what we saw. I see a
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  Speaker 4: trend here, but that trend could be completely changed. It's
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  Speaker 4: just crazy. College football, too, man.
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  Speaker 3: Some teams are play-to-play, like the NFC East teams were yesterday. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: my God.
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  Speaker 4: All right, so let's just laugh at the NFC East.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not going to lie. Some NFC East fan,
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know who he roots for.
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  Speaker 1: Ah!
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  Speaker 3: Some dude said, quit bashing the NFC East. It's a
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  Speaker 3: down year.
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  Speaker 4: But if you think we're as bad as your crappy division,
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  Speaker 4: you've got another thing coming. Your entire division played this
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  Speaker 4: week and didn't win a game. And two teams played
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  Speaker 4: each other.
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  Speaker 3: That's himself.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't happen in the NFC South, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great line. That is so true. All right.
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  Speaker 4: So can we start? Should we start with the of
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  Speaker 4: the first one first of the blown games? Let's start
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  Speaker 4: in chronological order.
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  Speaker 3: Dallas, Tampa.
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  Speaker 4: So Philly is Philly is playing in London against the Jags.
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  Speaker 4: Their defense playing well. Like you said, Jalen Carter had
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  Speaker 4: two sacks. It was a man possessed. And they are
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  Speaker 4: about ready to get like a, hey, we fought our
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  Speaker 4: butts off despite all the injuries, all the offensive line issues,
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  Speaker 4: Saquon out, Devontae Smith out. We kick a field goal
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  Speaker 4: bone to take the lead with, was it eight seconds?
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  Speaker 4: Eight seconds. Eight seconds left. And it's like, they're going
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  Speaker 4: to do this, man. They're going to do this. And
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking as a Panther fan, like, is that
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  Speaker 4: good they're winning? They get one out of the way?
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  Speaker 4: Or are they now going to be reinvigorated?
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  Speaker 5: Or is it so week to week it doesn't, we
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  Speaker 5: don't even have any idea what it means.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this one, Bone, was literally second to second because
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  Speaker 4: they kicked the kickoff and And they allow him to
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  Speaker 4: return it. They don't boot it through the end zone.
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  Speaker 4: Or just add a bounce. Anything but what they did
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  Speaker 4: would have worked. They give him a chance to return it.
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  Speaker 4: And Abdullah runs this thing back to the 39-yard line.
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  Speaker 4: And magically, it was close. I don't know what the
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  Speaker 4: Michigan clock operators thought, but they left one second on
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  Speaker 4: the clock for them to kick. Cam Little kicks a
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  Speaker 4: 56-yard or 57-yard field goal, and he makes it. It
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  Speaker 4: was devastating, and I'm laughing because it's Philly. Devastating way
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  Speaker 4: to lose a football game.
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  Speaker 5: And then they have to fly back all those hours
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  Speaker 5: now from London to Philly. Everything had to happen exactly
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  Speaker 5: how it happened. They had to kick the ball inbounds,
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  Speaker 5: not out of bounds or out of the end zone.
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  Speaker 5: They could have kicked it high. They could have squibbed it.
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  Speaker 5: They could have done a lot of things. But they
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  Speaker 5: kicked it to Abdul-Mak right in stride. But the other
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  Speaker 5: thing here is, that's crazy, if Abdullah goes any further
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  Speaker 5: and he's not tackled, it's over.
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  Speaker 3: The clock runs out.
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  Speaker 5: He had to run it to that exact spot, which
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  Speaker 5: happens to be the kicker's range. If he goes one
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  Speaker 5: more step, and you couldn't let him go one more step,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, obviously you're not trying that, but it had
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  Speaker 5: to go exactly where it went for Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 3: To win that football.
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  Speaker 4: And what if he stops five yards sooner? You know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: It had to be right where it was.
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  Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni afterwards, and you're going to notice a trend
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  Speaker 4: here in the NFC East. of head coaches afterwards having
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  Speaker 4: to say, my bad, this is Nick Sirianni, who I
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  Speaker 4: have to be honest, should dress up in disguise all
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  Speaker 4: week in Philly so that he doesn't get beat down
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  Speaker 4: because they are furious.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 8: You know, our guys fought their butts off today. Defense
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  Speaker 8: had an outstanding game keeping us in that game. Offense
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  Speaker 8: did enough at the end to go win us that game.
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  Speaker 8: Special teams did a nice job kicking it there. You know,
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  Speaker 8: I didn't make the right decision, and I lost us
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  Speaker 8: that game. And that's what I said to our guys.
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  Speaker 8: And what hurts there is that, you know, the guys
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  Speaker 8: fought so hard and then I don't make the decision that,
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  Speaker 8: you know, that I should make it to the end
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  Speaker 8: of the game. And I cost us that game and
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  Speaker 8: I put that fully on me.
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  Speaker 4: Good thing is they're very forgiving in the city of
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  Speaker 4: brotherly love, Nicky. Oh, they won't even remember in 24 hours.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. It's Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 5: They remember it. You could go in a Super Bowl
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  Speaker 5: this year and they'll still believe for this one.
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  Speaker 4: So other than the kickoff, like I thought it should
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  Speaker 4: have just gone deep out of bounds. You could have
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  Speaker 4: tried to dirty kick it too, maybe, and see if
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  Speaker 4: you could have bounced one. But even if you give
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  Speaker 4: them the ball like 35. Like, they still, they don't
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  Speaker 4: have any timeouts, so how are they going to, it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be really hard for them to complete a pass.
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  Speaker 4: You could have onside kicked it. You cover the sidelines
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  Speaker 4: and make them throw over the middle. You could have
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  Speaker 4: onside kicked it and let it bounce around. You could
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  Speaker 4: do anything but what you did to just waste time. So,
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  Speaker 4: but I also thought, Bone, they chose to throw a
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  Speaker 4: couple of passes instead of run the clock down. and
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  Speaker 4: make Jacksonville use all their timeouts. They also, Makai Lemon
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  Speaker 4: made a mistake.
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  Speaker 3: He's a rookie. He made a mistake.
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  Speaker 4: If he goes down inbounds bone on that pass and
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  Speaker 4: doesn't go out of bounds and stop the clock, then
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  Speaker 4: Jacksonville has to stop the clock there. Philly can run
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  Speaker 4: another play, run the clock down, and then stop it.
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  Speaker 4: Because that's the thing. In that situation, you've got to
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  Speaker 4: be able to make Jacksonville use all their timeouts, run
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  Speaker 4: the clock down, and stop it. And if Makai Lemon
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  Speaker 4: goes down, so he made a mistake, too. I have
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  Speaker 4: to be honest with you, though, Bone. That was nothing
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  Speaker 4: compared to what the Washington Commanders did. The Washington Commanders
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  Speaker 4: did something that if a youth quarterback, football quarterback and
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  Speaker 4: youth coach, Bone, did, you would say, man, they are
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  Speaker 4: some knuckleheads.
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  Speaker 3: But this is in the NFL. They allow the clock.
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  Speaker 4: to run out before they get a chance to kick
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  Speaker 4: the game-winning field goal. By the way, not to mention
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  Speaker 4: the gifts they got from the Giants. The Giants had
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  Speaker 4: their own problems. Another missed field goal by the Giants
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  Speaker 4: kicker in overtime. Giants fumbled the ball to give it
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  Speaker 4: back to them when they're in field goal range already.
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  Speaker 4: Like they had been handed these gifts and then they say, no,
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  Speaker 4: we don't really want to take these gifts from you.
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  Speaker 3: We'll give it right back.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Scadaboo was kind of off the hook now
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  Speaker 4: on his own right here he fumbled there that would
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  Speaker 4: have been the game but anyway they have 55 seconds
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  Speaker 4: bone and they let this clock run all the way
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  Speaker 4: down to the point where they run a play and
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  Speaker 4: instead of just spiking it to set up their field
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  Speaker 4: goal um they try to run a play and jayden
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  Speaker 4: daniels is like running around i don't know if he's
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  Speaker 4: trying to like Is he trying to get the.
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  Speaker 3: Ball over to the other hash or something?
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  Speaker 4: Like, I still don't fully understand what they were trying
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  Speaker 4: to do. Why are you worried about running the clock down?
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  Speaker 3: It's overtime. Kick the field goal and the game's over
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  Speaker 3: at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Very appropriate, a team in Washington not knowing what to do.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: What do you say?
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: I heard after the game back in Storm Reggae with C.J. Bailey,
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: he said, hey, what's up, man? Yeah, welcome to the club.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: It was unbelievable. I could not believe they were allowing
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: that clock to run out. And Jaden Daniels afterwards said, hey, that's,
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: you know, it starts at the top, but he says, hey,
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: I'm the quarterback.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: I got to do better.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: And then Dan Quinn took to the podium after smashing
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: his headset on the ground in anger and then standing
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: at the 25 yard line bone, apparently for multiple minutes,
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: just staring into space in shock at what happened.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: He then said, Nick Sirianni, hold my beer. I got
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: to apologize, too.
• 15:36
  Speaker 9: You know, with the team, I thought this was a
• 15:38
  Speaker 9: hard-fought game to the wire. Leaving tonight with a tie
• 15:42
  Speaker 9: feels like a loss. And the last sequence. You know,
• 15:48
  Speaker 9: we throw it out of bounds, we clock it, you know,
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: and give yourself a chance to kick it. And we
• 15:51
  Speaker 9: pride ourselves on those moments at the end of the game.
• 15:55
  Speaker 9: And after the first down run, you know, still trying
• 15:57
  Speaker 9: to gain more for the kick. Right call is honestly
• 16:00
  Speaker 9: that we can go clock it early and don't put
• 16:03
  Speaker 9: ourselves in that spot.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: And that is that's my responsibility. Nobody else's. They're trying
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: to gain more for the kick. But why don't you
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: go faster?
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: Like, why would you let it run all the way
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: down from 55 seconds to where you're not going to
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: have time when you're on a play?
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: Like, go with urgency if you're trying to run a
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: quick play. And I saw a ton of recap shows
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: and various things. They were all over Daniels. No one
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: was blaming the coach. He said that you're a quarterback
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: that's played football your whole life. You have to know
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: better than what you did. Whether you're told or not,
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: that's on the quarterback to know game situation there.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: But it would have to coach. Should the coaches know
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: game situation? Like, I want to know what play did
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: you send in? That's what I want to know. I'm
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: glad it happened. Why are you sending anything into the
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: quarterback other than get up there and spike it?
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I don't understand. What are you trying to do?
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: If he kicks it with 50 seconds left, 30, 20,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: just go make the kick. It doesn't matter. You're not
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: leaving them time. At that point, the game's over if
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: you make it. So you say that people are saying
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: it's on Daniels. What was he told in the headset?
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Did they call a play? And what was the play?
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels keeps it and runs it?
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: We'll never know, I guess.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I guess you've got to spread the blame around, but
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: I don't understand. Why is the play anything then get
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: up there and spike it? We're in field goal range.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't have the answer.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know. But it's the NFC East. There's a
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: lot of questions that we have about that division. Thank
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: God we're in the NFC South and not that woolly division.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: That was a fun Sunday to be off and just
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: watch division rivals and, you know, screw the pooch. Watch
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: two NFC East teams gag and blow a game. Like,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: that was fun, man. I enjoyed that.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: It's kind of annoying how much the Falcons are in primetime,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: but that one was fun last night. Oh, they were.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: If they won yesterday, Bone, they would have swept the three.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: I was like, please don't do this because I was
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: running my fat trap about how they would go 0-3
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: on primetime and put the whole nation to sleep. And
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I was like, please do not go 3-0. in prime
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: time and then they took care of us last night
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: um anything else oh there's nfl rules there's nfl controversy
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: with the refs on the uh seattle play at the
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: end bone as to whether or not cooper cup got
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: out of bounds with the first down or not oh
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: yeah there's that but i what i would say to
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: seattle is how about jsn just find a way to
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: catch that football you know what i mean yeah on
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: the on like a play or two before I missed
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: the very end of that game in transit.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, y'all were on.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: I was doing the Hornets pregame show, and I was
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: in transit, so I missed the very end of that game.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: JSN had a huge drop. I know vaguely what happened,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: but I missed the very end of it. JJ, as always, Bone,
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: when it comes to rules. Also, I say I was
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: in transit. I ended up at a— Chinese food dealership. Dealership?
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Is that what you call it? A Chinese food dealership?
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I meant restaurant.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Why did I say dealership? Bone also went to a
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: car restaurant the other day.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: So basically what I'm saying, Mac, is I left the
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: pregame show, I got Chinese food, and I missed the
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: very end of that game.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: OK, OK. They got home for Ravens foul. I got you.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I got you, JJ.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Well, JJ, I believe the league office should hire JJ,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: but that's just partially so he doesn't take our jobs
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: on WFNZ. But JJ was talking with somebody on Twitter
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: and said, basically, you need a pylon to be set
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: up at the first down marker, just like you do
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: in the end zone. And in those pylons, they now
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: have cameras because what happened is, Bone, they didn't have
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: a straight down the line shot.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: But J.J.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Says you get a pylon with a camera, you will
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: always have that straight down the line shot. So score
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: another one for the brains. Check out the brains on J.J. Also,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: we need J.J.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: 's statement, as Texas are pointing out, on the backup
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: long snapper doing work for Jacksonville yesterday. Because their long
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: snapper got hurt and they put in a, was that
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: a defensive tackle? Mac, or an offensive tackle? What was that?
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: I didn't even really see this one. Oh yeah, the
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: long snapper was hurt for Jacksonville. They had a backup
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: long snapper.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: I may have been watching my cheating football club beat
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: the brakes off of Liverpool and make everybody annoyed.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I may have been watching that. You were at a
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Chinese video show.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: When we come back, one of your former Penn State
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: ballers now doing great work as part of the team
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: with Tom Bredeman and Wes Bryant on the CW doing
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: ACC games. Jason Cabinda also does NFL stuff as well.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: We'll talk ACC and his thoughts on Bryce Young. Sports Radio,
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: 92.7 WFNZ.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Sports Radio 92.7. WFNZ, Mack and Bone with you here.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: We're getting requests, Bone, for various montages of misery to
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: be put together. Somebody wants an NFC East We Blew
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: the Game montages of misery between Washington and Philly. And
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: multiple people would like a Saints and Falcons lost montage
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: of misery.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Isn't that kind of touching the money, though, a little
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: bit here? Isn't that a little bit? It's a little
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: bit dangerous, right? I don't think, are we good enough
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: to start... Just throwing out random... I don't know about that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: How about we just... It feels like we've got to
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: stick to our games that we win. How about beat Philadelphia? Actually,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: they could lose to Philly. We could still do one
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: because that's how miserable they are.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: That's true. Let's just beat Philly. And then do one.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Let's not mess around here. You don't want to tempt
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: the sports gods?
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: No, no.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do the mess around here.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Plus, the montage is going to take me about three hours. So,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? I feel like the Panthers
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: have to earn those montages. I also have to come
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: in earlier to do them, too.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: That's true. An extra hour for Bone as well.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Anyway. I only have so many hours left.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: This dude said, this texter, 704 number, are you guys
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: that sad that you just recapped the NFL action and
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: all it was was mocking teams that lost?
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Are you that sad? Yeah. Yeah, pretty much.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Hey, we gave San Fran a little love. We gave
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Green Bay a little love. Drake May's hot again. Shout
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: out to the hometown kid. All right, anyway, let's talk
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: some football. Let's talk to someone that played the game,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: not us. Yeah, not us, not us. Our next guest
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: doesn't need to hear our plans of who we make
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: fun of on the air and who we do not.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: He played it. He's a Penn State man. I love
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: this about him. A man that played it at a
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: high-level bone. And we could talk college and pro with.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: He's that versatile. ACC fans, you hear him on the
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: CW on a game that we like to call the
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Wes Bryant Game of the Week because Wes is our co-worker.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: But our next guest is there as well with Tom
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Brenneman and Wes. He is Jason Cabinda, fresh off a
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: trip to Raleigh for a big win for the Deacs.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: And he joins us on the Mac and Bone Show. Hey, Jason,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: how you doing, man? What's going on?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: How are we doing, brother? Appreciate you guys having me
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: on the show, man.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: What's up, man?
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you being here, man. We got to talk about
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: the Wake and State game. My Lord, Wake took over
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: that game in the second half, outscored them 28-0 in
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: the second half. What was the difference? Because when Bailey
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: was cooking 16-16 early, I thought it might be a
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: special day for State.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: What was Wake able to do to turn the tide?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, I thought the same thing.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: You know, Wake was down 14-7, and then Gio Lopez
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: just took over that football game. Not only Gio Lopez,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: but that Wake Forest defensive line. I mean, Langston Hardy,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Zach Loewichen, I mean, those guys, the twist game, the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: winning the one-on-ones in the pass rush, I mean, they
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: were just peppering Bailey the whole rest of the game.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Once it became six minutes in the second quarter, I mean,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: they turned it on.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Jason, Wake Forest, we know, is not an easy place
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: to win, but Jake Dickert so far has made it
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: look like an easy place to win. From being around
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: the program and what you see from Jake Dickert so far,
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: what do you think makes him such a good match
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: for that Wake program right now?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think, you know, the way he's able to,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: you know, consistently fight complacency, you know, they don't get
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: satisfied over there. I think, you know, winning has become
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: an expectation over there for him. But, I mean, they work.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, these guys work, and I think... just the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: mindset that he brings to these guys and the way
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: he coaches, the way he cares about his players, I
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: think it is going to be very difficult for, you know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of organizations not to be, you know, knocking
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: on that front door looking for Jake Dickert because, I mean,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: this guy's the real deal.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: And on the other side, you have Dave Doran. State
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: fans are back after him again, and they've had this
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: horrible trend this season where of playing well in the
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: first half and then in the second half you know
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: just kind of falling apart giving up leads even in
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: the two in the games they won against app state
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: and louisville what's your feelings about dave doran and and
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: do you blame state fans for feeling like um after
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: all these years maybe it's time for a change.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's hard to say because, you know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you look at games like, especially the Vanderbilt game, you know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: with the debacle at the end of the game and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: they lose that one. And then, you know, coming into
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the season, you have a ton of hype about C.J. Bailey,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and rightfully so. You know, it was a big... quarterback
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: with a big arm. He's mobile. You know, you have
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of things that, you know, you want to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: like about this team, but it just seems like when
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: crunch time comes on or when the pressure is on
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: in these games, it seems as if they fold and
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: they don't keep their heads very well. And, you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: when I see those kinds of trends on a football team,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you know, it's hard not to look at the coaching team. Now,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: will I say people are going to be asking for
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: his head at the end of the season or anything
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: like that? I don't know. But I will say it
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: is a talented football team. They went and had that
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: heartbreak loss to Vandy. Then the very next week, they
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: go and beat Louisville. Then they're playing against Wake. They're
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: playing really well. They're up 14-7. And then, you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: they just kind of break down and they can't get
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: it going offensively anymore. So I just think they're a
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: very hot and cold team and they need to find
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a consistent level of play.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: We're talking to Jason Cabinda of the CW here on
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: the Mac and Bone radio show. While you guys were
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: doing that Wake State game the other day, UNC was
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: getting a big road win at Pittsburgh. Jason, there are
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: certain wins we look at as, you know, big wins
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: for the season. And then there are big wins for
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: the program. How huge was that for UNC to get
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: that win at Pittsburgh for the long haul?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is huge. I mean, I cannot, I
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: cannot overstate it enough. Not only is that win huge
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: against an undefeated, well, what was an undefeated Pittsburgh team,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: but just all the drama surrounding the program and all
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the things that they got going on, you know, for
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: them to be able to silence the noise, for Bill
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Belichick to be able to keep these guys focused and not,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: you know, lose any morale or be distracted and to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: still go out there and execute at a high level.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, that had to have been the most, I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: had seen Bill Belichick kind of laughing and cracking a
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: smile when he did that pregame interview, and that's kind
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: of when I knew, okay, Bill must know something because
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: he's normally not this happy and giddy and talking right
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: before a game. So that's when I knew he must
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: have had something cooking up for that Pittsburgh game, and
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: they went out there and they showed out.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, man, he was even chatty during the in-game interview
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: in the first half. I don't know how that happened either. So, yeah,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: he must have felt good. And we'll see what they
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: do moving forward. They got Duke this week. Duke's coming
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: off a loss to Georgia Tech. Do you think, and
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I guess this question is another kind of Wake Forest question,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: but maybe your answer is someone else.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I guess I'll interject.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I'm now starting to think Wake is the second best
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: team in the ACC behind Miami.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Do you agree, or would you point to someone else?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: You know, I got them right up there with SMU.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You know, I think SMU is still a good football team.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I really like their defense. I think they've regressed a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: little bit offensively just from a standpoint of turnovers and penalties.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And if they can clean that stuff up, obviously it
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: starts with Kevin Jennings. You know, even a year ago,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: you know, he was a quarterback who threw the most
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: interceptions in the league. They're a damn good passing offense.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Lashley does a great job over there calling the offense.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: It would be right up there between Wake Forest and
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: SMU to me the way I see it. Obviously, Pitt
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: lost a quarterback, and that was a big loss for them.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: But I think they're kind of neck and neck right
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: now fighting for that number two spot. And then obviously,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Duke, I know they lost to Georgia Tech
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: as well. But going into, you know, that game, I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: thought they were up there as well. Obviously, I think
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: that only played one conference game going into that Georgia
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Tech game. So we'll see how this thing continues to develop.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think it's waking SMU right up there,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: neck and neck.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: I was exploring the world of Jason Cabinda on Twitter,
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: at Jason Cabinda. It's also got the link to your
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: YouTube page as well for film breakdowns. You also do
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: NFL work as well, NFL Network, Good Morning Football. When
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: I was scrolling down to one of your videos, Jason,
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: lo and behold, I see you're talking about Bryce Young
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: in comparisons to Patrick Mahomes. What have you seen from
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Bryce Young so far this year, and what would that
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: comparison be in your mind?
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Speaker 3 6, 2 moms.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know, the, the, the, the original discussion was
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: really like, Hey, you know, do you throw a rookie
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: quarterback directly into the fire or do you let him
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: like a patch of my homes? behind a veteran and
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: allow him to develop until he's ready? You know, which
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: would you prefer? And we were talking about Fernando Mendoza
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: as well, who's in the same situation sitting behind Kirk Cousins.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: But obviously, Bryce was thrown into the fire. You know,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: he gets benched. Andy Dalton comes in, doesn't perform as well. Bryce,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: or no, he gets hurt. And then Bryce is able
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: to come back in. And I mean, to see the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: resurgence of Bryce Young and to start to see what
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: we saw at Alabama, that Steph Curry release, the ability
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to have such great pocket presence, get out of the pocket,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: throw it on the run. I just think he's playing
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: with a high level of confidence right now. And I
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: think The entire Carolina fan base is really rallying behind
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: them right now, as they should. I mean, if you
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: look at that win against the Detroit Lions, I know
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: that's not a great defense, but if you look at
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: that win against Detroit Lions and the way he was
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: methodical in those drives to come back and win that game,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I think that speaks a lot to this kid's character,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: to this kid's resilience, and really just his talent. And
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I'll also say this. It's not easy in the NFL
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: when you've lost your confidence to bounce back from that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: And I think that really, really... speaks to this kid's
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: character and his ability to just keep his head down
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: and to keep working and to keep going. And that's
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a trait that you really need in the NFL, especially
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, the ability to be even keeled
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: at all times and to stay in the middle of
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the ebb and flows of the emotional ups and downs
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: of the league. So I give this kid a lot
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of credit, man. And I think the Carolina Panthers, Right now,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I have a lot to be excited about.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: I got goosebumps right there. I love it, man. I
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: love it. Jason, I do have a question, though. We
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: were joking when we brought you on that we call
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: the game you do each week the Wes Bryant Game
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: of the Week because we work with Wes here at
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: WFNZ in Charlotte.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: But I've noticed something.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Does Wes pay Tom Brenneman to be his hype man?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Because Bone and I noticed.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: He is always hyping up, that big man at left
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: tackle for the Demon Deacons. He really hypes up West.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Is there a deal there, Jason?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, there's no deal, man. That's just the crew and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the chemistry, brother. I mean, West does a great job.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: He does a great job for us, man, of doing
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: his research, having his storylines ready for the game. And
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: he does a great job getting to know the players
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and coaches throughout the week to have some awesome tidbits
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: for the show, man. So West, Wes is freaking awesome, man.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying, you know, working with him and working
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: with Tom. It's been a blast so far.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: It's a good crew, man. Keep up the good work.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Y'all got Virginia SMU coming up, which is a big
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: one coming up this week.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: All right, man, be good. And thanks for coming on.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. We appreciate you.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: All right, there you go, Jason Cabinda. He's an emerging guy, man.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: He's good. He's going to listen. It's a good crew, man.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: The thing I like about Wes, too, on the sidelines is,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that each sideline reporter can bring
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: their own skill set. but he is kind of like
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: where he could be part analyst on the sideline too, right?
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: So I kind of liked it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Tom Brenneman will throw down there, and he'll kind of
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: be able to do a little more than just your
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: regular sideline report. I think that's a cool thing that
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Wes provides to the broadcast.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's kind of like our Fitty. He's kind of
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: like Fitty, right? Fitty's not just a guy on the sidelines.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: He's a guy that gives us great insight.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Some say I'm a host in a producer role.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Clearly.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be hosting today from 10 to 12 on
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Charlotte Sports Today.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: There you go, baby. Get that airtime, Fit Dog.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: A little double-dip Tar Heel victory celebration today.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Basketball and football, Fit. You want to dance? Just like
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: you and me, just like slow dance. Can we go
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: to break, guys?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: We can slow dance.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, shoot.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: We got to go to break.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: When we come back, it's weekend conclusions, not just football.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Everything that went on this weekend, including our salute to
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: one of the most legendary characters in all of sports history.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: That and more next on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: The song goes out to Shane Beamer Bone, who is
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: still alive, baby, still alive. I was reading Andy Staple's
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: article because he was in Florida. Him and Ari Wasserman,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: they were doing like an event in Gainesville or whatever.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Andy played football for the Gators. And so I heard him,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: or he got a shout-out in the press conference from
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Shane Beamer, but he wrote about it afterwards, and he said, yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: the feeling is, his intel is, they don't really want
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: to fire Shane Beamer at all. Like, his bosses genuinely
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: like him, and they don't want to fire him.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: So if Shane Beamer could get, like, another one of these,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: He's not. I don't think he is getting fired. He
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: needed a massive win. Now he needs to... get some
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: more to, I think, win some people back over in full.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: But remember, Matt, the report was they were not thinking
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: about firing him the week before this game.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: But that was saying money. That was saying the boosters
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: aren't going to step up with the money. Andy was
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: basically saying that the brass there just kind of likes.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: Him and doesn't want to do it. Now he's really
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: not going anywhere. Unless he loses his next four. We
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: will see. It's week to week. But that was a
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: huge freaking win for him. The one thing I'm going
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: to do is not turn on this man again.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: No.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Are you back on? You back on the Beamer wagon now?
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: The Beamer bus? Beam me up, Scotty. Oh, my God.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I got that win in the next four in a
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: row now.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Beamer is to bone what Hubert Davis was to me.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Just when he thinks I'm out. Pulls me back.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: That was not just a win, though. That was a
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: thorough demolition of the Gators. And that also leads to
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: a lot of questions about the Gators, too.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this just in Florida may not be what we
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: thought they were. And I also got to say this.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know if Willie's listening. I don't know if
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I want him to hear it. I don't want him
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: to hear this. Mizzou, definitely better than I thought they were.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: I definitely got to take an L on this Mizzou.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Thing, man.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get to it, Bone. Weekend conclusions. This
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: can be, you know, Murphy puking on your shoe. This
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: could be football. This could be any other sport. What's
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: your weekend conclusion to start?
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: We have to start off.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: By sending our thoughts and prayers and share some memories
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: of the great Mike Ditka, one of sports' greatest characters,
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: one of the greatest coaches ever. in pro football history,
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: passed away late last week. We had not been on
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: the air yet to talk about him. I know, Mac,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: that's a guy that meant the world to your dad.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: We saw him in the media when he was done coaching. Really,
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: the interesting part to me was the stories of the
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: human being that Mike Ditka was. Jim Nance told a
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: story with Kevin Clark recently about when he was doing
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: CBS NFL Today in the late 90s, early 2000s when
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: he was done coaching. He would allocate, Mac, $ 100, 000 to
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: spend on his trips to New York for the season,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: and he would get it all in $ 100 bills. And literally,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: whenever he had to tip somebody, all hundreds, never asked
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: for change. would see homeless people, give them hundreds. He
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: allocated that money just to give out to people because
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: this whole thought was, I'm not going to die with
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: all this money.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Other people could use it too.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of human stuff there with Mike Dick
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: that I was really intrigued by over the weekend.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: And that's such a contrast to his hard-ass public persona.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh told the story on Friday about how he
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: went into his office. I'm sure Dick is yelling at
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: him when he played for him. And there he is
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: writing $ 500 checks to people that, you know, are less fortunate. Yeah.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: And didn't even know these people, but was sending them checks.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: I prefer to remember Iron Mike Ditka as the hard-ass personality.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: That would scream at players and others, Bone. This is
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: a clip.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Now, it's a little like it sounds like it's like
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: literally radio from like the 1990s or whatever. But this
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: is a clip, Bone, of Mike Ditka's call-in show.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Sounds like being a texter.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: A caller taking a run at him and Ditka just
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: giving it to him back.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Listen to this.
• 38:15
  Speaker 10: Why did it appear that Mike was holding back, trying
• 38:18
  Speaker 10: not to cry like the baby that he is?
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: Well, Neil, I tell you what you are, I can't
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: say on the air.
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: But I tell you what, I'm 53 years old. And
• 38:32
  Speaker 10: my office is at 250 North Washington. Anytime you want
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: to meet me there, you call me back on the air.
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: You tell me what time and when, and I'll whip
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: your ass. You got that, big boy?
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: It's easy to hide behind a microphone, son. Let's get
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: your face out in public, and let's live where people
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: have to see you every day, and we'll see who
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: the gutless wonder is.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: I've said that to a text group before. Let's see
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: who that gutless wonder is. We thought Dabo teed up
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Tyler from Spartanburg. He got nothing on Ditka. And that
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: sounded like radio from 35 years ago should sound.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: It really did.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: A couple other things about Mike Ditka. I can move
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: on to other stuff here. We also can't forget the
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: career that he had as a player. as a tight end,
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame player, had 1,000 yards as a
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: rookie tight end in 1961 when tight ends were not
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: involved in the passing game. The passing game was hardly
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: a huge deal back then. If I'm not mistaken, was
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: he the first 1,000-yard tight end in the season? Has
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: to be.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Back then?
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: 1961, I think he was. I have to double-check that.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: But yeah, 1,000 yards as a rookie tight end in 1961.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: 100%. Just running right through people.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: And also, we can't forget the super fans at SNL
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: were the Bears.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: The mini Ditkus. Who could forget that? I loved it.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: He was iconic.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: That 85 championship team, iconic. And he was a perfect
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: coach for it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: Can't confirm, but he was the first 1,000-yard tight end.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: As a rookie, 56 catches, 1,076 yards, 12 touchdowns in
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: a 14-game regular season.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: He was a bad man. And a lot of that
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: was after the catch, I'm sure, too. Just give him
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: the ball, let him go.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: I want to mention something that Barry Patch has really
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: once on the air, and he is right.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: This has to be on the air.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: The Canes, Bone, have already beaten the Flyers twice this season,
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: got them 4-1 last night. They have now won five
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: in a row, so the champs are rolling. They tweeted
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: out after the game that they have now won more
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: games in Philly than the Flyers, the Eagles, and the
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Phillies combined in the last month.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, got him.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Got a report. Officer, I want to report an assault
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: right there on Twitter. God, that's beautiful. Speaking of assault,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Mike Evans did the funniest thing yesterday. Trayvon Diggs is
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: in Seattle's secondary. Called up from the practice squad recently. Yeah,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: weren't we sniffing around?
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: He was talking some form of trash yesterday to the Niners'
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: Mike Evans. And all we saw, Mac, was Mike Evans
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: say something to him. Spin him around and look at
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: the name at the back of his jersey because he
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: didn't know who he was talking to. He was surprised
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Trayvon Diggs was still in the NFL.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, my.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: How disrespectful is that? That was so funny. Who are you?
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Let me look at the back of your jersey. And
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: then he says after the game, I really didn't know
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: he was in the league.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I had no idea.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: I had to see who it was. That was well played.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Niners 5-0, man. Mike Evans making plays for them, too.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Beat the Rams. Neutral site. And Seattle in Seattle already, too.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Mammoth wins. Mammoth wins.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: In a division, Bone is slightly better than the NFC
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: South and the NFC East.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: A little bit.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: I need to shout out Charlotte FC. You've got to
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: give me another hit of that good Willie over there, Fit.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: You've got to give me some of that Willie.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: I need it in my system, baby. All right, we're
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: going to want to cut and rephrase. I'm talking Willie P, y'all.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I'm talking Willie P.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Charlotte FC falls behind 2-0 to Dallas on Saturday night.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: All looks lost.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Panther Steve and his lovely wife there in the stands
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: all ponchoed up.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: It's pouring.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: It seems like it's just that the game is as
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: dark as the weather. And Charlotte FC rallies. Toklamati scores two.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Toffolo gets one, and it was just a beautiful night. Now,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: we already played the game winner fit, so give me
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: maybe the second goal, because I assume Willie ramped up each.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Time, right? Give me calm, not yelling Willie.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Give me the second goal when Willie realizes, does that exist?
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: When Willie realizes we have come back and tied this match.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Papp sends it low into the area, headed onward, and
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: they go in!
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Referee, let's go!
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: 2-2! A set-piece magic goal for Charlotte FC!
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: And we are even at two apiece!
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: There you go, man, the P-man. That's probably about an 8.5.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: His game-winning goal call was a 10 on the Mickey scale.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that might be his highest rating ever. He
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: lost his mind.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: He was shattering glass all around the Charlotte area with
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: his voice on the game winner. But Charlotte FC, they're
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: still in fifth tied. But they are three points outside
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: of second. This team, I'd just like a little more
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: urgency before we fall behind in games. That's what I'm
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: asking for, man. This team's dangerous, dude.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: Remember the summer controversy when we thought Weatherman Mark was
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: this guy on Facebook named Mark and we got all confused?
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: It turns out that we were wrong. That guy's name
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: is Mark Robbins. And the other day on Facebook, he
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: randomly just called Murphy the B-word.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Out of nowhere. So I said, what's wrong with you?
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: I DM him. He then says, no, you are the
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: B word. Then he sends me a picture of his dog.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: B word.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: Mac, attack. You, bleep hole. I said, what is wrong
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: with you? He then says, nothing. You're like family to me.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: Love the show. Can't wait to listen on Monday. Mac,
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go ahead and say this Mark Robbins
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: might be a few meets sort of a platter.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Ha, ha, ha. What's going on here with this? Bone,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: you're like a... I can draw in some marks, can't I?
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: You're like an insanity magnet on that social media thing.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I'm a jigger.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: What did I do to this guy? You are just
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: a magnet. And first of all, you're not going to
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: call Murphy that. He'll chew your legs off.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: All right, a couple of random conclusions. Would you call
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Mabel that, sir? You're darn right you wouldn't. If he
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: called Mabel that, he would actually be correct.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Right? Like literally. Isn't that what they call female dogs?
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying it would be an actual correct term.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: The text line's not going to like that one.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: I've used this before, and the text line got mad.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: She's gone.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: I'm talking literally, though. Like, literally, that's what they called
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: a female dog.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Mabel was like the Dolly Parton of the Charlotte Dog World.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: All right, a couple of things real quick, because Fitty's
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: telling me to shut up, all right?
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: We have Dave Paulson in two minutes.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: We're going to do it.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: You NFL fans in England, anybody else notice how much
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: they love painting their entire face? They're very into the
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: face paint. Also, shout out to an Ole Miss mom.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this phone during Ole
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Miss Vanderbilt. There was a mom that was holding the
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: baby and a Coors Light can simultaneously.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: That is good parenting right there. That's beautiful. Beautiful.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: When we come back, Dave Clawson talks ACC. Dave now
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: with the ACC Network. We talk about a school he
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: knows well in Wake and more on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.