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- 0:12Hey, everybody, it's time four three guys before the game. Welcome in
- 0:18everybody, Episode number five hundred and thirty nine. The crew is all assembled.
- 0:25We're ready to go. Title of the show, searching for mister Wright.
- 0:34Our I g H T not like w R I g H correct proper
- 0:41right? All right, So you're saying Jay Wright is not going to be
- 0:44the next coach. No, he's not going to be the next coach.
- 0:47Okay, he's going to stay on the TV side of things. He got
- 0:50out. Yeah, he's done. He'd done with this. He's done with
- 0:54his tom foolery. I got no time for that. Three guys before the
- 1:00game, also going to jump in a Year's been a year. What are
- 1:03you saying? Wow, I mean a lot of these guys get back in.
- 1:07Yeah they do. Not speaking of the West Virginia job right now.
- 1:10I'm just saying a lot of these guys get back in over time. They
- 1:12Yeah, hard to stay away, Yeah apparently. Yeah, people come and
- 1:15go kind of like you on this show. Three guys brought to us by
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- 1:34outside. Trees are budding, flowers are blooming. They came out. Did
- 1:38you know one day you wake up and there are no blooms, and the
- 1:44next day you wake up and everything is blooming. I mean, it happened
- 1:48in eighteen hours. It's amazing, it truly is. There's a I have
- 1:52an artificial not an artificial faux para tree. I have a pear tree in
- 1:56my front yard. And when I left for Charleston on Friday, it was
- 2:00just sitting there right, just departures. Yeah, came back Saturday night in
- 2:04full bloom. Happened that fast. Tis the season, man, And it's
- 2:07too bad. Like on some of those some of those trees, well it's
- 2:14what do you call because it doesn't produce pears, it's a ornamental. Yeah,
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- 2:32got I got a magnolia. I got a magnolia, right, now that's
- 2:37just a full blossom. It's the prettiest thing. Do you have a magnolia?
- 2:40Yeah, I do, He said ornamental faster than he would have said
- 2:44mountaineers. If you'd ask ornamental, it is. Joan is so into the
- 2:50bushes and oh my gosh, but it's a little bit north for magnolia.
- 2:53If you have a magnolia, well that's not done. Funny you say that.
- 2:57Hop here we go. I'm gonna have to restart a second episode.
- 3:01The magnolia right now is in absolute full blown. It's absolutely gorgeous, and
- 3:07a flower lady that we know said, fortunately, hopefully this year you will
- 3:14be able to enjoy it in its full vibrance, because oftentimes what happens is
- 3:19they pop and then we get a free oh yeah, and you tell you
- 3:22and you lose that luster. So so far, so good for Magnolia's in
- 3:27West Virginia. This year. You had a flower source. Of course,
- 3:31he did the season for sources. He just gave talk to the flower.
- 3:36Matter of fact, I got a ten I got a ten o'clock tomorrow morning
- 3:39at a nursery. I really do. On the show, they would just
- 3:44dragged me around. What do you think of the what do you think of
- 3:46the ask them what they have said? Western get a defensive coach and offensive.
- 3:52So you plus you're with the new Kredia state, you'll be certain that
- 3:55you'll have lines of magnolia. Well, no, there's one that old and
- 4:00old oaks. Oh there's one that's already there is there. Oh it's gorgeous.
- 4:03I bet you it's fifty feet tall. Really, Oh yeah, it's
- 4:08gorgeous. That's awesome. I was going to say, those problem with these
- 4:11beautiful buds that come out as they don't last, They turn the leaves,
- 4:15the buds go away. Well, what's an ornamental cherry? Got a got
- 4:17an ornamental cherry out front? Time ornamental? That should have been a title
- 4:23of the episode. Change it good folk. By the way, we're all
- 4:29back from Charleston. We had a great week and anyway, spread some fox
- 4:31urine around if you want to keep the deer away. Tobacco, juice and
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- 4:38this show Brad on w A j R. On Saturday mornings. It was
- 4:42the it was the plant guy named Jerry and like everyone would call right,
- 4:46he was like the Dave Ramsey of Plants. Yes, Dave, I got
- 4:49it, or Jerry I got this, Mary Shanter. Every answer was throw
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- 4:58Don'll take care of it. It was that was his answer. Get some
- 5:01urine, Get some fox urine. Frithm Off find a fox fit, get
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- 6:19dot com. All right, let's jump in. So we're into an interesting
- 6:25or different time of the year here on three guys. Basketball is over for
- 6:30the men, the women getting ready to play and they have an extremely intriguing
- 6:36matchup in the NCAA tournament. We'll have some stats for you today, just
- 6:42kind of an appetizer, just a little appetizer. Then when we come back
- 6:46Thursday, we'll blow the whole thing up and break it down. And obviously
- 6:50the coaching search is officially underway. We're starting to see some movement and a
- 6:57lot of people have asked about I had a guy in Kroger yesterday frozen food
- 7:00section. You were in holding courting crew, no doing my own thing,
- 7:04just looking for just looking for sweep frozen sweet potatoes without seasoning. And a
- 7:13guy and his wife were in there and he'd reached in, he took something.
- 7:16I reached in, I got something, and I was ready. I
- 7:19mean I did. I was ready to go, and he gave me the
- 7:26I got to ask you, is it buyington? I said, excuse me?
- 7:31I said no, These are all right. So people want to know
- 7:39people are in so we'll talk about that. We also have the textual healing
- 7:47segment. And if you're watching the podcast, and if Austin takes a shot,
- 7:53you'll see we've been inundated by over here unbelievable gift receees. Popcorn.
- 8:01Didn't know they made it, didn't either, never seen it. Jim from
- 8:05Preston County, tremendous. We love you, Jim. Jim sent us five
- 8:09bags and one's already gone. It's good. And if I hack and cough,
- 8:13you never should go on the air ever after eating popcorn. Never,
- 8:16but I did because I have absolutely no self control with you. And so
- 8:22we killed a bag and meanwhile I might cough and hack. All right,
- 8:26let's jump in. First off, let's do the women's basketball side of things.
- 8:33Very rarely do the bracketologist hit. They hit this one. They had
- 8:39West Virginia potentially seen Iowa in the second round a week or so ago.
- 8:45Charlie Krem is the Joe Linardi of women's basketball, and it could happen.
- 8:50But what's interesting is that West Virginia's first opponent. Although they do not strike
- 8:56fear into your heart by their brand name Princeton, they've got a rep man.
- 9:03The last two years they've lined up and beat NC State and Kentucky.
- 9:07Their head coach is a Gino Arima disciple, Carla Burubi. She played for
- 9:13Gino, won a national, won a World's championship. While she was there,
- 9:18they won thirty five and oh, I think she's in the kinnetic you
- 9:22know her? No her, I was there, Excuse me, I was
- 9:24there. I have one of those national championship rings that Carla Herby also has.
- 9:28Her well, So she goes to Toughs to start her coaching career,
- 9:33and I think it's the first time on the podcast in five hundred and thirty
- 9:37nine episodes that we've said toughs, but we're saying it. So she wins
- 9:41stupid there like eighty percent of her games. You got, ah, well,
- 9:45toughs, toughs, toughs. Whatever. Did you see a record at
- 9:48Princeton She's one hundred and sixteen in five years. So West Virginia has going
- 9:56to have their hands full. But okay, fine, And then if you
- 10:01win that one, you would play the presumable winner of the other side,
- 10:07which would be a team by the name of Iowa. And they have a
- 10:11player on that team named Caitlyn Clark. Not sure if you're familiar with her
- 10:16or not, And so you could have just this storybook matchup in what would
- 10:22be Caitlyn Clark's last ever game on that floor at Carver Hawkeye Arena. Joe
- 10:30Bacado says, already ticket's unavailable. Is he going? Yes? Is he
- 10:35really? Bocado's going? Good for Joe bro talked to a buddy of mine
- 10:39last night in Iowa City and said, yeah, if you're not one of
- 10:41their higher level season ticket holders, you had no shot to get that.
- 10:45Those were out immediately got to go to secondary market. Yeah. Carla was
- 10:50on that Yukon team with some great players. Rebecca Lobo was the headliner on
- 10:52that team. Gen Rizzotti, who also went on to a successful coaching career.
- 10:56Carlas said about three words season, very quiet, very underrated player.
- 11:01She was outstanding, but was probably about the fourth or fifth most talked about
- 11:05player. But she was a great, great player. You didn't try to
- 11:09play her one on one like you did Lobo. No, because after Lobo
- 11:11whit my ass, I said, I'm out true story? How really true?
- 11:18Oh yeah you said it, Lobo? She backed you down? You
- 11:22know I was only I mean, I was only three years removed from,
- 11:24of course, my offer from Tom Davis. There come walk on the Hawkeye
- 11:26program. So I show up a Connecticut thinking, wait, I got missed
- 11:30on Rebecca got come on, let's go. She backed you, backed me
- 11:33straight down? Back you down? Just back me straight down? Did she
- 11:37back you down like that? That? Like that young fella from NC State?
- 11:41Yeah, that was great theater this weekend. You see the big from
- 11:43NC State. No, oh, they're up in They're up the road,
- 11:48aren't they. They're in Pittsburgh. I think I think they're in Pittsburgh.
- 11:52Oh my gosh. You gotta see this dude yet to see this dude like
- 11:58he beeps when he backs up. It is a big big man that there's
- 12:03a tendency to, for obvious reasons, to say, oh, you know,
- 12:07win this game, youf way I win. This's gonna be you got
- 12:09This is an eight nine against a NCAA team. You gotta, Brad,
- 12:16you got a little business to attend to here. First, this is this
- 12:18is no easy game. As you just outlined me, you're right that the
- 12:22headliner there is Caitlin Clark and a potential matchup in front of sixteen thousand in
- 12:26Carver Hawkey Arena there. But Princeton is no joke. They have got it
- 12:30going. And a couple things you look for in these matchups is what what
- 12:33do they do that may cause you problems. One of those is going to
- 12:37be potential offensive rebounding. Princeton elite on the offensive glass, top two percentile
- 12:43nationally an offensive rebounding percentage. So West Virginia doesn't offensive rebound well, but
- 12:48it's going to need to defensive rebound extremely well here to keep Princeton off the
- 12:52glass. And that's if they miss. They're a very good shooting team to
- 12:56top ten percent in effective field goal percentage, so they're very good there.
- 13:00So this this don't overlook this first game here for West Virginia. Yeah,
- 13:03they keep people about fifty how many points per game? Fifty six fifty five
- 13:07points per game. I hope people don't to Yeah, because if you go
- 13:09on a if you're go on to points per forty minutes or per one hundred
- 13:13posessions hunters. Yeah, so they're over a point per possession. Strength of
- 13:16schedule, don't have that one. I'd be interested to know twenty five and
- 13:22four, thirteen and one overall. Yeah, Wait, that doesn't that strike
- 13:26you as one of the teams you don't want to play? Yes and no,
- 13:28Yes and no. You got to play someone one. Yeah. Two.
- 13:31Best thing that could happen for West Virginia is that they beat NC State
- 13:35in Kentucky the last two years. So this isn't one of those teams that's
- 13:39gonna come in trojan Horse like for Inston. They're a joke. Mark Kellogg
- 13:43and his staff are going to be on going. Hey, guess what beat
- 13:46an ACC and an SEC team in each of the last two years. How
- 13:48you guys gonna do? They don't. Their strength is they lined up and
- 13:52played you. They took a loss to ucla very good women's program, lost
- 13:56by three. Pounded Oklahoma wozy early in the season, lined up beat Oklahoma
- 14:03fourteen, played Indiana, who's a top ten team, lost by nine in
- 14:07that one ooh beat Seaton Hall lined up, beat Villain over. They beat
- 14:13Villain over, beat villanover lined up, said to Rutgers, well, come
- 14:16on over, he gonna beat you too, lined up beat them eleven.
- 14:20So they played, they played people. They played non conference, I mean
- 14:22carly nf rah, you'll line up. Yeah, and then they got in
- 14:26the Ivy League obviously and went thirteen to one. So you looked at a
- 14:30line on this game yet, havn't it hmm interesting? Have some of that
- 14:33for Thursday. You'll do your full breakdown. Do a full breakdown to have
- 14:37an appetize. Yeah, just take a look at him, but don't overlook
- 14:41Princeton is the point. Just to get to absolutely the Iowahawkeyes waiting in their
- 14:45home building. Absolutely all right, good good. Saw an interview with JJ
- 14:50Quinnerley after I think Joe bro had that and she says, knees coming along,
- 14:56feeling better. I'll be good to go. Good packed building last night,
- 15:01you were there, Yeah, they did. They did a watch watch
- 15:03party last night over at the new club up top Clark Family Club. I
- 15:07had a great time. It packed. Yeah, foods, some cupcakes there.
- 15:09Kerchival nice coach spoke to the crowd. Do you embarrass yourself food wise?
- 15:15No, because I'd embarrassed myself at dinner daughter's birthday. Dinner went out
- 15:18and already was stuffed. Didn't know there'd be food at the building, so
- 15:22it was already out of commission by the time I got there. Good news
- 15:26for my fine looking fell white vest on, so I couldn't really get anything
- 15:30with a white vest on. Careful a white vest? Yeah? Nice?
- 15:33Peter Malar, what stream vest? Oh, not like a vest vest,
- 15:37but like a vest. I had a picture to you, a white vest.
- 15:43You want to see it? So you want me explain what it looks
- 15:45like? I get it now. Well I'm gonna show you because Austin has
- 15:48a picture. That's two nice listeners there, Carol and Bucky were wonderful,
- 15:52so they came up. Spoke to them. There's Carolyn Bucky right there.
- 15:54See white vest I had I had envisioned you like a sweater vest. Yeah,
- 16:00like an old guy vest. I don't want to have an old guy
- 16:03vests on. Had a nice out. Yeah, you went good, very
- 16:06nice, nice crown. Good jump met Lannie as well. Flew Hardy he
- 16:10was there. He said hello to you Lannie and Paul are the best.
- 16:12That was Bucky and Carroll. They were so think about this though, real
- 16:17quick. Then we'll jump into the men's side of the Big Twelve Conference in
- 16:21the NCAA Tournament and the nit thanks but no thanks. Think of where West
- 16:26Virginia women's basketball has gone in the course of one year. So basically about
- 16:30fifty three weeks ago, no, fifty one weeks ago, fifty weeks ago,
- 16:37West Virginia loses in the opening round of the NCUABLEA Tournament, basically a
- 16:40week a year ago this week, and Don Plitzewhite takes off. What if
- 16:45I would have told you, don't worry about it. A year later,
- 16:48West Virginia will be back in the NCUBLEA Tournament and the momentum within the program
- 16:55will be at probably record high. I mean, the Joe and the movement
- 17:00on this team right now, there's a lot of loving going on. You
- 17:06could not have said that with any confidence. If you said it, it
- 17:10would have been, oh, Okay, you're dreaming. Maybe you want that
- 17:11to happen, but there's no evidence that that will happen. Right, you're
- 17:15right, And people were upset. People were angry of how that all happened.
- 17:22So the first thing that was really positive as soon as Mark got here
- 17:29is that none of the ladies left. All six that could have come back
- 17:33came back. That was his first like boom. And then he went out,
- 17:38put a few more pieces together, had the off season to put his
- 17:42system in. They bought in and off. It really was a near perfect
- 17:48combination of the players that were already here sticking and being very very good and
- 17:52buying in early. And then that new staff with Mark going out and adding
- 17:56a couple of obviously critical pieces. That's about it. Good a melting of
- 18:00those two groups as I've seen. How about I know we focused entirely on
- 18:04WVU, but also how about the story of Kim Caldwell going from Glenville to
- 18:11marsh Rad's story and getting coach of the Year in a stun belt conference,
- 18:15winning the sun Bells Conference tournament the only way they're going to get in NC
- 18:18DOUBLEA bread and then going to the n C DOUBLEA and they play first round
- 18:21game Friday in Blacksburg against the Hokies. That's a heck of a story,
- 18:25heck of a second all time tournament bit I think for Marshall is all it
- 18:27is. Yeah, first time since like ninety seven, I mean in a
- 18:30while. I mean that that's a coaching job right there again and again kept
- 18:33players. Kim's terrific. I've known her for a long time, obviously covered
- 18:37her extensively at Glenville. She's been on our show a bunch and talked to
- 18:41her a bunch. She's really good. Yeah, really good. I know
- 18:44that's Captain obvious. I just told your hobbies obvious observations there. But to
- 18:48do what she did, it's one thing to get it going at Glenville like
- 18:51that and be able to keep it going, which is really hard to do,
- 18:53to be able to translate that up to Marshall in year one. That's
- 18:57an incredible job by both those coaches in this state in year one to have
- 19:02the success they had. Absolutely true, Absolutely true, which also gives you
- 19:06some hope for next season on the men's side, that the standard old school
- 19:11rebuilds are now a different deal. And we'll talk about that coming up.
- 19:17Obviously, we'll talk about that for months to come, and we'll talk about
- 19:21that all the way to the start of next season. Some interesting stuff happened
- 19:26in selection Sunday, and it wasn't so much as the NC DOUBLEA Tournament as
- 19:30it was the NIT A mass flipping off from Power five coaches to the NC
- 19:38DOUBLEA, which now oversees the NIT. They took away the automatic bid to
- 19:48non Power five conferences. Power six and basketball took that away so real quick.
- 19:53So if you were a number one seed in you, if you won
- 19:56the regular season in your conference and then did not win your conference tournament and
- 19:59make the ENC A Tournament, you received an auto berth to the n T
- 20:02precorrectly the given, it's a given, you're in. Don't worry about it.
- 20:04You're in. We got you. They took that away because they wanted
- 20:08to get more of these Power six schools in. Well that's a good plan
- 20:14until the power six schools say, no, we're not interested in playing Saint
- 20:18John's Oklahoma Ole, miss Ole, Miss Pitt, Pitt Indiana too, right,
- 20:25Yeah, Indiana. Rick Rick Patino did say though with all due respect,
- 20:30I mean he did say that he has great respect, but yeah,
- 20:33but sco So it really it really upset the Apple car. Yeah, it
- 20:38really upset the app I check out Indiana. They might not they might be
- 20:41playing. It really upset the plan because television wanted those teams in there.
- 20:48They wanted more brand names in that tournament, and those teams that we're not
- 20:52going to play don't care about it. The excuse that they're using is the
- 20:57portal is now open as of as I record this on Monday, as of
- 21:00right now, and so they're saying, no, we got to we've got
- 21:03to re we've got to retool a roster, we got to keep the guys
- 21:07that we want to keep. We got to go get guys now we're not
- 21:08interested in playing. So that turns what they thought were going to be some
- 21:14really interesting television matchups they don't happen now, so they might have to look
- 21:19at that again. Inn I Indiana did they accept know they turned down the
- 21:23invitation? Wow, Indiana, let's see here, Indiana will decline an invitation
- 21:29to play in the n I t Maybe that was earlier. Let me double
- 21:33chick and double chick anyway, so that's where we are. Okay, you
- 21:36got some numbers on Senator, you got some numbers on the teams that did
- 21:40make it from the Big twelve. So this is what I wanted to do.
- 21:44I uh, this is kind of like commission work. I commissioned the
- 21:47Senator and asked him, what is the commonality that the teams from the Big
- 21:53twelve conference have that earned them a spot in the nc double Tournament? Metrics
- 22:00like, what do you have to have as some just base ingredients in order
- 22:07to make it in to the NCAA tournament? And that leads us to the
- 22:12numbers. Oh yeah, oh, just go right to the numbers. There
- 22:15comes a heater. Let's jump into the analytics worship of the show time for
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- 23:37post. All right, what do we got before again into some numbers,
- 23:40let's talk about this. You touched on the turnarounds, We talked about it.
- 23:42In regards to women's basketball, look no further than the Iowa State Cyclones.
- 23:47Guys, the twenty twenty one season, just a couple of years ago,
- 23:52Iowa State went two and twenty two overall and zero and eighteen in league
- 23:56play. And now and now twenty seven and seven, thirteen and five.
- 24:03Wait, so they can say that whole thing again. So that was TJ's
- 24:07first year. I always say, no, I think it was Prone's last
- 24:10year. Wasn't it is that? Okay? Was it that that was his
- 24:11last year? Because yeah, he because TJ has won nineteen or more than
- 24:17three straight years now Okay, it's just yeah, two and twenty two,
- 24:21the twenty twenty one, twenty twenty twenty twenty one season two, Yeah,
- 24:26that was pro go. Two and twenty two didn't win a conference game.
- 24:30Now they slide into a number two and some thought had a case for the
- 24:32number one seed. Right. So to your point of being able to turn
- 24:36this thing way more quickly than you've ever had before. Not only not only
- 24:41hoppy twenty seven and seven, thirteen and five a dominating win in the Big
- 24:45Twelve Tournament to beat Houston. Houston scored eighteen points in the second half.
- 24:49Yeah, tep I was taking kicked him in the teeth by thirty Houston.
- 24:53Houston did that numerous times to other teams. Yes, this season, I
- 25:00mean that was they displaced people. For Iowa State to do that, that
- 25:04was an absolute wow, absolutely wow man. And it once again shows you
- 25:14the home court advantage that Iowa State has. Did you see those pictures,
- 25:18oh and video over and power and power and light District that Yeah, that
- 25:22but I was just talking to the arena, I mean it was it was
- 25:23Hilton South. Yeah. But if you saw the you see the power of
- 25:26white I did it just like it was like the Beatles were playing. It
- 25:30was shoulder to shoulder. You couldn't move. It's also interesting, We'll get
- 25:33back to this because I do want to dive into those big twelve teams that
- 25:34got in. We'll get back to this because it also speaks to this coaching
- 25:37search thing as well, where you know there's the win the press conference,
- 25:42or you don't win the press conference, but you got a really good cook,
- 25:45like you just need to chill out and wait. Because t j Otzelberger,
- 25:48all due respect to him, was not setting the world on fire at
- 25:51UNLV. Now he had Iowa State ties hoppy, he'd been there, very
- 25:53good recruiter, was very well respected within the department and the fan base,
- 25:59so they loved him. But he was not killing it at UNLV, and
- 26:03he's able to walk in. Now you have a great success where Southcote State
- 26:06sounds kind of one want. Went to UNLV and was just was okay,
- 26:11but wasn't setting the world on fire. Wouldn't have been a hot commodity at
- 26:15multiple schools around the country, but a great fit for Iowa State and has
- 26:18obviously done a tremendous job of getting the right kind of players to buy into
- 26:22what he wants them to do and having really a magical season this season.
- 26:26So just a point of caution as we continue to discuss this coaching search thing
- 26:30here. How did he do it? Guard? Yeah, their defense was
- 26:34non negotiable. It's non negotiable defense if you don't And he said this,
- 26:41and I read a story about him this weekend. Nice I think was the
- 26:45athletic if you have, if you get the athletic, get that. It's
- 26:48just basically, when we bring people into our program, they have to have
- 26:53that intangible gene that we have to make a determination on. Will they guard?
- 27:00Will they be selfless? They don't go out there and try to find
- 27:06the fancy dude right that that's out there. He's got a five stars next
- 27:11to his name. He scores all these points. Will you fit into what
- 27:14we want to do? Because collectively, if we get all five to go,
- 27:17I mean they're not I mean there's not a bunch of NBA guys running
- 27:19around on that team, and you know, sometimes you luck out. Taman
- 27:23Lipsey his mom and dad work at Iowa State. He's born and raised in
- 27:29Ames and he's a great player. That program has had an incredible run of
- 27:32feeders from Ames High. That is not a Frederick Heiberg. You don't have
- 27:37tell me about fred Hoiberg lined up played him in Ames against Heiberg. Thank
- 27:40you, laughing at you. He took the ball and just held it at
- 27:42Brad's forehead like help. So we were lined up real quick side. Note
- 27:45we were playing my senior year, his sophomore year. He was. He
- 27:48was really good, obviously, So that clock is winding down in the first
- 27:52half. I'm guarding him. I'm standing back, and they're gonna save for
- 27:56the last shot in front of our bench. I can still see like it
- 27:59happened yesterday. He's out front, I'm matched up, I'm about top of
- 28:02the I'm right about the three point line. He's a little bit further out.
- 28:04And he takes the ball. And you didn't see this a lot in
- 28:07Iiowa high school basketball. He takes the ball and he just has it out,
- 28:10like down to his side, like he's one hand with you have two
- 28:14hands. No, he one hand had palmed it, just held it out,
- 28:15And I can vividly remember so many years ago, is that that's forty
- 28:18seven years ago. I can remember. I'm down on my defensive stance and
- 28:22I'm looking at him, going, uh, this sn't good because he's like
- 28:26twelve years old. I mean he's sophomore, and I like, how old
- 28:29are you? What are you doing? He's out there just palm it immediately
- 28:32right around me. Got no help. My team went down, got no
- 28:34help. Thought I had helped behind me. He was really good, did
- 28:38what he wanted to do. But they Harrison Barnes that didn't go to Iowa
- 28:41Stable went to North Carolina. He's from Ames High. They've had multiple guy
- 28:45It's amazing with that school, at that high school produces. Anyway, I
- 28:48digress. They also passed the ball very well. To your point about being
- 28:52selfless, so they pass and they guard. That's all that. Yeah,
- 28:56pretty good. Yeah that's so anyway, point being, I would stay with
- 29:00the really quick turnaround with a guy that wasn't the hottest name in the coaching
- 29:04market at the time but ended up being a really good fit. But the
- 29:07guy that they wanted. But the guy that they wanted that was like,
- 29:11we have to have TJ back. I've remembered that he was at un for
- 29:15what a year? One or two wasn't long, No, like one or
- 29:18two. Onemember Chris Beard was at UNLV for like three days. Yeah I
- 29:23remember that. Yeah yeah, anyway, yeah, did pull cars s Beard.
- 29:27So this was interesting. When we talked about this this morning, I
- 29:32thought I'd come in here with about six or seven bullet points that say here
- 29:36it is, here's your formula. You know what I found when I actually
- 29:38got in there, Well, what's up? This year was a weird year.
- 29:41There wasn't a script. The biggest script playing a Power five conference.
- 29:48That was the biggest script. Lit'sten to these numbers. So all Big twelve
- 29:52teams during the NCAA tournament won twenty plus games. Check all won at least
- 29:56nine conference games. So this was not one of those years like last year
- 30:00when West Virginia got in with a sub five hundred record, and we've seen
- 30:04that before from the Big twelve. Good point, this was not one of
- 30:07those years. They all won at least nine conference games, all were top
- 30:10thirty three in the Ken Palm rankings. But here's what got me by stopped.
- 30:15You just said two big things. Okay, One, So looking ahead
- 30:18to next year, you're from West Virginia's perspective, what are you going to
- 30:22have to do? You're going to have to win nine West Virginia making it
- 30:26in a year ago at seven and eleven in the league and getting the seventh
- 30:30win on the last Saturday the regular season. That was an aberration. West
- 30:34Virginia's computer number last year might be the biggest gap between a computer ranking and
- 30:41your record of all time. I went back and looked at the final rank
- 30:44in West Ring's like nineteenth in the Ken Palm ranking, and went seven and
- 30:48eleven had a not good conference record, nineteen in the computer ranking. What
- 30:52they have in the nine seed in the nca tournament was at eight nine game
- 30:56right the West Virginia was in. I believe I'm right about that. I
- 30:57think so. So that was an amazing gap right there. So, but
- 31:02those are your three win twenty win, win at least half of your games,
- 31:04and be top thirty three in the Ken Pond. But if you do
- 31:07the first two out of this league, chances are you're going to be in
- 31:08that number. Here's what surprised me this one did not four of those teams
- 31:15that are in have a defensive rank of thirty four or better. I'm sorry,
- 31:21let me refresh. Four are in with a defensive rank of forty five
- 31:26or worse. I thought all those the West Virginia or the Big twelve.
- 31:30Defensive numbers did not stay as elevated as they were early in the season.
- 31:34Those kind of normalize a little bit. So four NCAA Tournament teams with a
- 31:38defensive rank or forty five or lower. That's surprised me. How low.
- 31:42I'll go back and get those in a minute, because I thought those would
- 31:45all come in like top fifty minimum, right if they did not, Here's
- 31:48what I was trying to say. A second ago, four teams were out
- 31:53of the NCAA Tournament from the Big twelve with a defensive rank of thirty four
- 31:57or better. Really elite defensive teams did not get in. Who were they?
- 32:02Fifteen, seventeen and number twenty two, kse State So Oklahoma and Kansas
- 32:07State you seef and you seef? Yeah, personal aside real quick, you
- 32:15see f fifteenth, Cincinnati seventeenth, Wow, Kansas State twenty two, Oklahoma
- 32:22thirty four all out of the tournament. So what were their offensive numbers?
- 32:24Then? They had to be sub not good? Oklahoma not bad forty eighth,
- 32:30Kansas State not good one thirty eight, Cincinnati seventy seven, and U
- 32:35se F one forty nine so we talk about you've got to be very good
- 32:37defensively, and you do in this league. If you're not good defensively,
- 32:40you got no shot. But you also have to have some more balance.
- 32:44You've got to be able to score at times too. You can't be this
- 32:46is a league where you can't be like this lopsided either way. You've got
- 32:51to be more level where you can win in multiple styles of play. Oklahoma's
- 32:55strength of schedule did that hurt them? Eight and ten in the league?
- 33:01Right? Overall strength of schedule their non conference was three twenty three. Yeah,
- 33:08not good enough, but hold on, they did play North Carolina,
- 33:10right, because here's what jumped out to me. Non conference strength to schedule
- 33:15must not matter anymore. Excuse me, it must not matter. That was
- 33:19me. That was a thing forever. Non conference strength to schedule, non
- 33:22conference strength to schedule. Play play play play people, play people, play
- 33:24people, play people, Hopey play people. Five Big twelve teams that made
- 33:30the tournament have like a bottom one twenty five non conference strength to schedule.
- 33:35Listen to some of these. Iowa State three point fifty one out of like
- 33:39what three sixty three, TCU three point fifty seven, about as bad as
- 33:45you can be in the non conference strength of schedule in TCU lined up played
- 33:47No. One TCU BYU three twenty seven. Those are some non conference schedules
- 33:55for teams that are in the tournament, including a two seed in Iowa State.
- 34:00What led to the criticism that the Big Twelve is gaming the system by
- 34:04not playing strong non conference schedules and then just eating the fat off of being
- 34:09in a very, very highly respected league. They took a lot of criticism
- 34:15for doing that, and there might be those three schools. That's a valid
- 34:19criticism on those three schools. I don't know that you can use that as
- 34:21a full blanket statement, but those three were those are pretty bad non conference.
- 34:24This is not as analytical or as scientific of the numbers that you use,
- 34:30But I truly do believe that the reason Oklahoma did not make it into
- 34:35the NCAA Tournament was because they played Country Roads in Norman at the end of
- 34:40the West Virginia game. I don't scientifically can't prove that. I think that
- 34:45was karma. Yeah, that's unconfirmed. I think unconfirmed. I think that
- 34:47was karma came back to bite them in the back. See Oklahoma played Iowa,
- 34:52they played usc both top one hundred. They played Providence, a top
- 34:54fifty five team. They played ar Kansas who ended up not being any good,
- 34:58Top one oh seven, played North Carolina lost, and then they got
- 35:01to play people. Then, yeah, they played people their conference track.
- 35:05That was just one of those there. There were those bid steelers late that
- 35:08affected the Big East Conference too. There were a lot of bid steelers that
- 35:12came in there that probably cost the Big twelve another bid or two on that.
- 35:15Oklahoma probably had a case there. Ottzel Burger was at UNLV two years.
- 35:21The record of twenty nine and thirty. Yeah, yeah, thirty,
- 35:24here's it. But in researching then, excuse me, you researched. How
- 35:29many coaches do you think you and LV has had since Tark unbelievable? Take
- 35:34a guess. They had Raleigh. Yeah, Rolly Massamino was there for two
- 35:37years, Thank you God. Raleigh Massamino was there for two years, maybe
- 35:40three. They had Raleigh. They had Chris Beard, they had Otselbergery,
- 35:45Kruger's son, Don Krueger's Kevin's there and now saved his job. This year,
- 35:50I'm gonna say seven, it's over under seven and a half. I
- 35:52was gonna say seven, I'm going I'm going seven and seven. Brad he
- 35:59went seven numbers seven, fourteen. Excuse me. They've had fourteen coaches since
- 36:05tark Oh, my gracious, what was his last year ninety two, So
- 36:12it's twenty thirty two years years two a year every two years. Yeah,
- 36:16they've had some people that they hired that haven't me and put their furniture in
- 36:20the office yet and they take off. Yeah, there's a couple like Howie
- 36:23Landa was there a second tim Gergrich was there forgot he was yeah, guy,
- 36:32he was there for thirty seconds. Yeah. Max Good was there for
- 36:37a minute. Max Good was that the Max Good. Jay spoon Hour was
- 36:40there. Some of them were just like six and and it sh Jay was
- 36:44my boy. I played youth basketball against Jay Todd took once, foiled him
- 36:47out, took all five charges from him along the baseline five charges youth basketball.
- 36:51Ah, Jake, gonna tell you what, they lock you down,
- 36:52the charge into me, don't get you fouled. Wow, you'd win some
- 37:00money on a trivia question on that. How many coaches have UNV had two
- 37:04touchdowns? Worth? Fourteen coaches? They haven't been any good since since Lon
- 37:10Krueger. Well, this year they were eighteen to thirteen. What was Lawn's
- 37:15best year there? I don't know what is it? Let me check he
- 37:17was he was one sixty one and seventy one. Let me check what his
- 37:21best year. Well, obviously their heyday was with Jerry Tarkanian. When you
- 37:27could say they were forward thinking in regard to the nil, Yes, they
- 37:32were. One would say a little bit ahead of the game. He had
- 37:36aggressive Krueger was he had a thirty and seven year in six and two thousand
- 37:40and six, two thousand and seven, he followed up with a he was
- 37:43thirty and seven. He was thirty and seven, made to the Sweet sixteen.
- 37:46A really good coach. Yeah, so he had success there. You.
- 37:51So, if you look at the highest ranked Ken Palm teams to be
- 37:54left out of the tournament field, Cincinnata comes in at the fourth highest rank
- 37:59that was left out. The Big Twelve had two of the top six,
- 38:05Oklahoma being the other one at forty third. Cincinnati was thirty seventh and left
- 38:09out the highest with Saint John's at twenty five did not make it in the
- 38:14field. All due respect to the n IT, how many teams reach the
- 38:19Sweet sixteen from the Big twelve. It's a good question. I haven't gone
- 38:22through the bracket yet. I've got to go through the brackets somewhere and look
- 38:25at those matchups. Can't answer that today. The league deserves criticism if they
- 38:31don't get how many in the sweet sixteen, Again, depends on where you're
- 38:36seated. See why you could get through. It's a bust if you don't
- 38:43have three Iowa States one to watch and we'll get in. I'd like to
- 38:47get into some games to keep an eye and you want to do that now,
- 38:50Games to keep an eye on that have coaches names that potentially could be
- 38:53around the WVU search. Yeah, we have to do it now because when
- 38:57we record on Thursday, we'll be watching the games in here. Yes,
- 39:00you're gonna be here Thursday, Hobey, Yeah, be a lot of dead
- 39:04air games will be on. We'll be watching. Iowa State's path is interesting.
- 39:07So they get South Dakota State. Didn't we just say Alzeberger was there?
- 39:10So they get South Dakota State first, then they get the winner.
- 39:14And this is a game if you're West Virginia fans to keep an eye on
- 39:16Washington State and Drake play in the first round. That's a bummer the committee.
- 39:22The committee did some odd things putting those two together. Bums me out
- 39:24because those are both teams that would be fun to watch as a seven out
- 39:28of ten. That could give people some trouble. Darren de Friese, of
- 39:30course, the Drake coach has been fantastic there and then Washington State's coach getting
- 39:36a lot of love. He's won it multiple places. He's an interesting candidate
- 39:39in this carousel right now. Washington State one at three different places. Obviously
- 39:44at the school that has a conference that's going away. What does he do?
- 39:47Does he look is this is his time to make a move out.
- 39:51There's a bunch of jobs open. So that's whe to keep an eye on.
- 39:53Washington State and Duke and Drake excuse me, Washington State and Drake Dfreezeer's
- 39:58seventy eight and thirty three. Drake, what's your situation with the freeze How
- 40:02do you know him? Brother went to same school I did. One of
- 40:07his brothers. He's got another brother that was an All American at the University
- 40:12of Iowa that then went on to play in the NFL for a number of
- 40:15years. Buddy of mine, Dad coached and taught them in high school,
- 40:22really small high school, Applington Parkersburg, Hoppy. I've lifted in the Applington
- 40:27Parkersburg weight room. Do you know everybody in basketball? I mean everybody that
- 40:30comes up you have some connection to working on it. He's been very good.
- 40:36So here's another one. Wisconsin five, the five, Wisconsin against the
- 40:40twelve. James Madison, Mark Byington's been a name that's swirling around this search.
- 40:45That game comes up on the twenty second. What day's twenty second?
- 40:49Thursday, Friday eighteen nineteen. Let's get this doesn't matter. Friday Friday,
- 40:53Okay, So that game's Friday. Mississippi State the eight against Michigan State the
- 40:59nine. Chris jan You want another story, Yes, Chris Jans, the
- 41:02Mississippi State coach. He's down there with Jimmy Bell. So he's got Jimmy
- 41:07Bell. He's been very successful as well. Longtime Wichita State assistant with Greg
- 41:10Marshall. Lots of success there. West Virginia connection. Mark Downey from Morgantown
- 41:15used to be on his staff at Bowling Green, which was his next stop.
- 41:19He won at Bowling Green, then went to New Mexico State one there
- 41:22had Teddy Allen, Theodore Allen, Theodore Allen, one of the darlings of
- 41:27the NCA tournament. Would that have been two years ago? He had two
- 41:30years ago. So he won there, then took the Mississippi State job.
- 41:34Now he has James Bell on his team. Chris Jans when I arrived at
- 41:38my school, went to play basketball and baseball. First basketball meeting scrimmage we
- 41:43got together. It was immediately, hey, wait do you see Chris Jans.
- 41:46Wait to see Chris Jians. He played in the same conference that my
- 41:49school was in. Was kind of a Steph Curry before there was Steph Curry
- 41:52as a player. He would fire as immediately stepping across that f court.
- 41:57He was a really good player in his own right. So that game comes
- 41:59up on Thursday, the twenty first, Mississippi State against Michigan State. And
- 42:02then there's a play in game one of the play in opening round games,
- 42:06Colorado State against Virginia that has some interest. UVA West Virginia obviously played them
- 42:10this season. Colorado State is coached by Nico Medved, very successful coach as
- 42:15well, who has ties to the Morgantown area through his wife. Yeah,
- 42:20there's just a couple copy. You doing anything too hoppy? You doing anything
- 42:22on this search? What do you got any obvious observations? Hoo. One
- 42:28is that that I suspect that that Rinn Baker's down to like four or five.
- 42:34I mean you would you would be at this point to four or five
- 42:37people, right, That might be a little light Okay, well, okay,
- 42:43that I'm gonna go with four or five, maybe six, Okay,
- 42:46but you're I think you're down to that point, and that you can do
- 42:51zooms, you can talk on the phone, you gotta do face to face.
- 42:54You got to get him in here and you got to meet him in
- 42:58person. And frankly, with the names Brad mentioned, you're just not going
- 43:01to be able to until somebody's out of the tournament. So it's not like
- 43:06your search is stalled, but you're waiting. I think you're in a waiting
- 43:08game. Uh. And also that you know the whole Mark Byington thing,
- 43:13I mean that's been that started out Brad as the hot name, but I
- 43:16get I get a cool vibe on the hot name. It was way overblown
- 43:21early, Yes, agreed, it was way overblown early. There were a
- 43:23lot of people that ran with that report. That it was done, told
- 43:28it was not. That was an early jumping of the gun by some.
- 43:32I mean absolutely not done. And again I the vibe I get, it's
- 43:37it's it's all. It's that is not Byington and it's not. And look,
- 43:40and I don't want I don't want to start trouble here. I don't
- 43:43want to, which means you're about to. Well, I'm just gonna say
- 43:46that it continues to circulate out there. There are still individuals who still want,
- 43:51you know, the Bob Huggins thing, and that just again it unequivocally,
- 43:55without question, that is not going to happen under any circumstance. There
- 43:59is no avenue people can talk about it, people can say he should apply
- 44:04for whatever. It is not going to happen. And rarely do I say
- 44:08things so definitively than that that is simply not. There's no way. If
- 44:15you've followed us through the years when it comes to coaching searches and we haven't
- 44:20had a ton through the years, it seems like we're always talking about one
- 44:23like it. Well, not really, I mean not really. At West
- 44:29Virginia you just said you UNLV's had fourteen some Jerry turcans. I mean West
- 44:32Virginia's had fewer than the average, they're under the averages. But my point
- 44:37to this is this, we always say this, the two most difficult stories
- 44:42to cover are coaching searches and conference reorganization. Are if those are the two
- 44:47most difficult, because what happens is everyone wants to know, and sometimes people
- 44:55say things and they take off like a flame and gas it just explodes.
- 45:04So the reason I bring this up is because we were all down in Charleston
- 45:07for the state boys basketball tournament and we had a couple of people come up
- 45:13to Brad and I and say, hey, I hear that West Virginia's first
- 45:20one or two candidates have turned them down. No. No, hasn't even
- 45:29gotten to that point yet. It hasn't even gotten to that point. Conversations
- 45:34are happening. Ren Baker has his list. Think of this as a game
- 45:38of dominoes, and you've got all the dominoes lined up, you have to
- 45:44wait for the dominoes that begin to fall to trigger the next move. That's
- 45:49the point that you're at right now. So to your point, Hobby,
- 45:52ren Baker has he probably started a list. He probably had his list of
- 45:57about forty five to fifty names, and then they prioritize and then you have
- 46:05to It's a it's a it's literally a game of like you have to wait
- 46:09before you can move based upon the NCAA tournament and based upon what other schools
- 46:15do and n I and n I t For example, the Indiana State coach.
- 46:19Let's talk about him next. Let's get into this. So was he
- 46:22on West Virginia's list? Yeah, he was on West Virginia's list. Looks
- 46:29like he's going to Saint Louis. Why is he going to Saint Louis.
- 46:32Well, West Virginia may have had him on their list, but he may
- 46:37have gotten that vibe that you're gonna have to wait for us to go through
- 46:42some other names before we get to you in our pecking order. Right.
- 46:46So that's how this thing plays. So people are asking me, what do
- 46:51you? What do you? Here's what I say, West Virginia is going
- 46:53to get a really good basketball coach. They're going to get a really good
- 46:57basketball coach who's got really good credentials. But at this moment, no one
- 47:01knows who it's going to be, including Reren Baker. He knows who his
- 47:06list is, but you don't know how the dominoes are going to roll.
- 47:09Look, and also there are like Mark Byington is one of those guys who's
- 47:15on the on everybody's list, right, anybody that's looking for a coach,
- 47:19Byington's name comes up. So there's an echo chamber, correct that goes on,
- 47:23along with Dusty May and Josh Shirtz the Indiana State and Darren de Fries.
- 47:28I mean there's three or four guys that are on everybody's list, yes,
- 47:32and then you've got to dig down get the next wave. And so
- 47:35yeah, you get down to five or six that you do the interviews with
- 47:37and that's when the matrix starts happening. The only guy, so yeah,
- 47:40you're right on shirts He gets a sense. Okay, I'm I'm probably not
- 47:44the number one. I've just had a historic year at Indiana State. I've
- 47:47got to make some sort of move here. I've got to keep going because
- 47:51Saint Louis, Indiana State and Saint Louis without digging in doesn't seem like a
- 47:54huge, massive move, but it resets the clock and keeps him moving a
- 47:58little bit. Yeah, it's fluid. It truly is incredibly fluid. And
- 48:05you don't know where the thing is going to end up other than you're going
- 48:08to come out of this fine. You're going to get a guy that has
- 48:12won. Wren has his priorities as to what he wants. He knows what
- 48:16the ingredients are that you need to have to be successful in this job,
- 48:22both on the court and off the court. So it's just a matter of
- 48:24okay, I'll go, and I would also submit there's probably a name or
- 48:29two out there that isn't getting a ton of talk right now. That might
- 48:34be a sitting coach at a Power five school, power six school that you
- 48:38also have to kind of have conversations with as well. So all of that
- 48:43is in play, incredibly fluid, but you just have to wait, not
- 48:49too long. Well, it could be a couple of weeks, this depends.
- 48:52Just think of this after this weekend is old. You've you've never had
- 48:57more resources at your disposal in terms of staff, You've never had more people
- 49:00understanding the portal. You've never had more players available in the portal. So
- 49:04yes, you need to move quickly, but you don't need to rush.
- 49:07How about that hobby, Well, that's what move quickly, but don't rush.
- 49:09That's what John Wood. John wouldn't said. It's that's a very good
- 49:14saying for right now. Yeah, move was move quickly, but don't hurry
- 49:17or don't rush. Don't know, not hurry. I think he said double
- 49:20check. I used don't don't rush quote myself not John wouldn't. Thank you.
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- 50:14Really, yeah, and Fred Fred Fred the the full quote is be
- 50:20quick, but don't hurry and recruit NBA players. That was the other part.
- 50:23Then I'll just use my own what I say. Well, I don't
- 50:28know it's your quote. He threw me off. You were so excited to
- 50:30mention John Wooden. Yeah, it's not your quotes Wooden's quote. It wasn't
- 50:37Wooden's quote. What was Wooden's quote? Be quick, but don't hurry.
- 50:39I said, move quickly, don't rush. Hey, hoppy, did he
- 50:42get NBA players? Yeah? Yeah, he was a futurest progressive. He
- 50:46was progressive. He was progressive in the nil game. That's one of the
- 50:52great untold stories. It is. But you still won nine in a row,
- 50:55so you rite nine nine or row eight nine whatever? It was never
- 51:02to be done again. Yeah, no, not possible. All right,
- 51:07you guys are ready to do some healing. It's time to do some healing.
- 51:09Let's do some healing. I just check quotes. They do have that
- 51:17attributed to Brian Home. It's a different Wikipedia. Go quickly, don't rush,
- 51:28it's the same thing. What did he say? He said? He
- 51:37said, whatever you do be original. What he says the same thing,
- 51:40not even the same words be quick, but don't hurry. Yeah, not
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- 51:53can purchase all kinds of stuff. You can buy our coffee. Can't say
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- 52:04coordinator. He can't say that he likes to go fast. He's got to
- 52:06say, well, John Woulden like to go fast, so I go fast.
- 52:08No one else can ever go fast. Apparel only comes from John Wooden.
- 52:13You say to your wife, Ay, is there any derivative of quick
- 52:15or rush or hurry has to be attributed to John Wooden. You say to
- 52:21Laura, listen, I need you to get home quickly, but don't hurry
- 52:24as John Clin. Sorry, so on episodells passed the legislator quickly, but
- 52:32you got attributed John Wooden before you ask somebody about that on your public affairs,
- 52:36soh Episode eight hunter dot com brought to us by episode eight hunter dot
- 52:40com. Textabal healing, So you can buy our coffee there. Our coffee
- 52:45is roasted here in Morgantown by Mountaineer Roasting. Last week, the owner of
- 52:52Mountaineer Roasting Russy Rusty Isaac's Uh. He made a trip to South America with
- 52:59WV stew Udents is part of their spring break. Whereabouts Columbia, Ecuador,
- 53:05Prue. I don't know, so Guatemala. I believe it's Central America.
- 53:09So here we go. I want to show you some pictures if you would
- 53:12put those coffee pictures up Austin, so that gentleman there, his name is
- 53:17Ricardo Zelea. He is the owner of Finca Santa Clara. That's his farm,
- 53:25and they produce Guatemalan coffee that makes up fifty percent of our game day
- 53:31grink. Can you show us a little bit there? So there he is,
- 53:35and you see those those wooden dryers, I think you would say those
- 53:39are all beans inside there. And then here is the actual coffee bean on
- 53:45the plant. So I didn't know this until a bit ago, but inside
- 53:50those what look like cherries are pits. Those pits are the coffee bean.
- 53:57And so you dry those, you dry those fruits off, and they literally
- 54:00drive them off. I think in the sun and then they get to the
- 54:02pit. That's the coffee bean. And you ship the coffee bean. It's
- 54:07in a green form. They send it over here, he mixes it here,
- 54:09he roasts it in Morgantown, and that makes our game day grind.
- 54:13So it's not roasted there, No, oh, Condon, It's got to
- 54:15be roasted here. Okay, Yeah, so you get the green you get
- 54:19the green beans. But yeah, that's it's inside basically of a cherry.
- 54:22What abouts in Guatemala? I don't know, dude, I don't know.
- 54:25But yeah, so that was Uh so that's good. That's great having some
- 54:30today as a matter of fact, Yeah, so happy to have that from
- 54:35the text line here, just asking Buckwheed in Chicago. Rites, I just
- 54:43finished watching episode five three nine. Actually it was five three eight. I
- 54:45made a mistake to this is five three nine, But anyway, I get
- 54:49your point. I'm in the middle of reading My Losing Season on Hoppy's unequivocal
- 54:52recommendation, and I found numerous parallels with the past season for Josh eilc.
- 54:58As I'm sure Hopy knows. The book is about much more than the senior
- 55:00year of basketball for Pat Conroy at the Citadel. Thank you, Hoppy,
- 55:05keep up the outstanding work Mountaineers. One of the great sports books of all
- 55:09time, that is your book. You do highly recommend that. Yeah,
- 55:13I'm going to get that for you, Brett. We have not read it
- 55:15yet. I'll get it for you. Texter. It's with a great honor
- 55:20that I inform you that three guys before the Game has won the prestigious outstanding
- 55:23DOUBLEVU Sports podcast in Northern mount Pleasant, South Carolina. Excellent. Congratulations on
- 55:30being the best WVU podcast in all of Northern Mountain Pleasant. Like necessarily,
- 55:35Brian Burgess like to thank the entire crew. He's the chairman of the Northern
- 55:39mount Pleasant DOUBLEV Sports Podcast Association. A lot of work goes into this and
- 55:45m planning. Texter, I have a small adjustment to make to y'all's comments
- 55:52about the Knar River camera. The river was smooth, but the current was
- 55:55very swift, probably too much for most boats. Just Saturday, the water
- 56:00level was just below the gates at the Windfield locks here. In a few
- 56:02days it will be normal and I will be fishing it all right. Good
- 56:06up date. Thanks for helping me through the work days. You know the
- 56:10advice when you're fishing, be quick, but don't hurry. Yeah, says
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- 57:07in the state of West Virginia. Texter asks a question, how much do
- 57:19we have to pay? I lost that? How much do we have to
- 57:22pay to hear the eleven minute lost episode? Will the audio file be on
- 57:29sale at episode eight hundred dot com? Yeah? What did you do with
- 57:34that? Is it? I had archive I had. That's here, I
- 57:37mean I had a little peace. Maybe next episode remind me Texter Kylon Martinsburg,
- 57:42who's an aspiring landowner, wanted to get your guys thoughts on the new
- 57:45college football playoff model and the revenue distribution. I think having a playoff auto
- 57:51bid for the winner of the Big Twelve is great for West Virginia. However,
- 57:54all Big twelve schools will be at a significant disadvantage when it comes to
- 57:58revenue compared to the Big ten SEC schools. Thoughts. I'm gotta get into
- 58:06that a little more. My knee jerk reaction is I don't like. I
- 58:08don't like that auto BID's great. As we've talked, I think got tremendous
- 58:13that that adds to the conference season. Now your niche down trying to win
- 58:15a conference season, not just trying to win a conference season, then having
- 58:20to fight your way in with politics. So I think that part's good.
- 58:22The uneven revenue distribution is going to be a potential problem down the road,
- 58:27though, Texter Hi Brad Tony Hoppey, my son and son in law just
- 58:34texted me asking if I was the Siesta Key trolley rider. I hadn't listened
- 58:39to the show yet, But I guess I forgot to sign my name on
- 58:43my text. Sorry guys, but thanks for reading my text on the show.
- 58:45Julie B. From Morgantown. So that was the h he was on
- 58:47a trolley. Gotta forget that one on the conk train. Oh that's what
- 58:57they call it. I think conk train. John O no Adam and D.
- 59:02C. Rights. I got last minute tickets to the ACC semi final
- 59:07basketball tournament with friends who went to school in Pennsylvania and Uva. Between the
- 59:14two games, two gentlemen come and sit next to me. One of them
- 59:17happened to be a cook a cook as they always say, a West Virginia
- 59:22connection. What cook a cook went to the ACC went to the tournament.
- 59:28He's a basketball fan, likes to watch games. John from Oudre State Park
- 59:34Rights mid karaoke text. We're celebrating our friend Will's bachelor party in Nashville.
- 59:40What we didn't know was the SEC tournament was there this week. The place
- 59:45crawling with Kentucky fans. I felt obligated to carry the torch and sing country
- 59:50Roads. A little nervous with all the blue As I started to sing,
- 59:53A couple of gold hats walked in in the dimly lit room. The shining
- 59:58hats of the gold turned out to be Hello Mountaineers who belted it out with
- 1:00:00me as Kentucky went down to Texas. A and M always a West Virginia
- 1:00:07connection. Good work, well done. Absolutely Speaking of West Virginia connection,
- 1:00:15saw here on the Twitter verse, Jeff Goodman basketball college writer reports that referee
- 1:00:22Ted Valentine, who's a West Virginia native, will work the nc DOUBLEA Tournament
- 1:00:27this season for the first time since twenty and nineteen. Valentine was one of
- 1:00:31the officials that was sent home after contact tracing in twenty twenty one, and
- 1:00:37he was not allowed to work the last two NCUBA tournaments by the NCAA because
- 1:00:43he didn't leave the bubble immediately when he was asked to do so. Valentine
- 1:00:47thought he should be allowed to test again and be eligible to officiate Sweet sixteen
- 1:00:52games, so they put him on an undesired hiatus, but now ted secret
- 1:00:58probation. Yeah, Teddy will be in the nca tournament. One of the
- 1:01:00more animated officials. He is, you'll see. Yeah, just saw him
- 1:01:05this summer TBT. We talked to him Texter. Hey, by the way,
- 1:01:12we were at the state tournament, as you know, and watching those
- 1:01:15games, and when you're Tony, you're that close all the time you're there.
- 1:01:19And I know we've talked a lot about officiating and calls or no calls
- 1:01:22and maybe having a chance to question officials. It's it's hard to do in
- 1:01:27basketball. There is so much there's so much going on. It happens so
- 1:01:30fast, there's so much contact. You know, it's a very even at
- 1:01:36the high school level. We were watching, I mean, it's so physical.
- 1:01:37How much do you call red? You saw it. It's hard,
- 1:01:40It's really hard. I thought the guys did a really good job. Yeah,
- 1:01:45I did too. I thought they did a really good job. The
- 1:01:50state tournament finals were absolutely bizarre, never seen, terrific, never seen before.
- 1:01:55You think about this, well, I mean all four games were decided
- 1:02:00by three points, last possession. All four games, the team that won
- 1:02:06avenged a loss against that same team from the regular season. All four games
- 1:02:12were won against two I mean, what more do you want? And all
- 1:02:15four games decided by three points? Is that right? Yeah? Or less?
- 1:02:19And the two win all four games as well? Yes, I think
- 1:02:22the two seed beat the one and two went to overtime. I mean,
- 1:02:27the odds of that happening are impossible. So it's a great day of basketball.
- 1:02:30Here is a great week, but it really gess. Here's here's something
- 1:02:35in the quada, here's something. Two things can be true at the same
- 1:02:37time. That was a bad game. That was a great game. Yeah,
- 1:02:43I mean they couldn't they couldn't shoot it. They were both thirty percent
- 1:02:47range for the game. It was twenty eight to twenty eight at the end
- 1:02:51of the fourth quarter. And it wasn't a it wasn't an intended stall game.
- 1:02:57But at the same time, the game was fabulous, dramatic and great
- 1:03:01to watch. So that's kind of the beauty of the game. Sometimes you
- 1:03:06got people making shots, sometimes you don't. That's the beauty of the game.
- 1:03:09And sometimes, as I contend in that one, that was a lot
- 1:03:12about the defense and physicality, because you know, when it's hard to make
- 1:03:15shots when you're tired and you've been leaned on and you've been banging and it's
- 1:03:19physical, and we we a lot of times just say it's a bad offense,
- 1:03:22begains. They couldn't shoot, they make shots, I miss. Sometimes
- 1:03:24there's other factors that lead to that that you gotta that you got an absolutely
- 1:03:29equation. And I think that was true in that game. I mean,
- 1:03:31extremely entertaining, dramatic game. But percentage wise, you wouldn't send that tape
- 1:03:37in and say, hey, watch the beauty of the game. But it
- 1:03:40was a game. It was it was it was good. I enjoyed it.
- 1:03:44But you but you would. I think you would sacrifice the quote unquote
- 1:03:47quality as a game for a great finish. Yes, And you know what
- 1:03:52else, that State tournament is just it still has Like for example, blue
- 1:03:59Field played Wheeling Central in the SEMIS on Friday, Like I'm watching that game
- 1:04:04and I'm saying to myself, like, this is what the state tournament is
- 1:04:08all about. All the way to the top of the state, all the
- 1:04:11way to the bottom of the state, and they are balling back and forth
- 1:04:15like that's the state tournament. It was fantastic. And then for example,
- 1:04:19and this is true for all of these communities, but when Shady Spring won
- 1:04:25that game, you see what that means to those people in that community.
- 1:04:29I mean that was just the fifth time that they've been there in their school's
- 1:04:31history. They had lost the previous two years. And it's their second state
- 1:04:39championship. And it's just such an absolute fine line of what determines a win
- 1:04:45and a loss. I mean, Dave Rettin just unbelievable coach, but like
- 1:04:51it just comes down to like a shot here or there. That's what makes
- 1:04:55people go because you just don't know. And then the execution in our second
- 1:05:00game, the quad A game, the Spring Mills Morgantown game that Searon Young,
- 1:05:04one of the best players in the state, came within a last second
- 1:05:08shot his freshman year of winning four state titles, was one of those kids.
- 1:05:13He was struggling right because they put two six to seven guys on him.
- 1:05:15It was tough to get shots off. And the play that Dave Tollman
- 1:05:19drew up at the end of that game stolen from Brad Stevens, former Butler
- 1:05:23coach Celtics. It involved a cross court pass all the way across the court
- 1:05:29in tail because the pass has to be good, the guy in the corner
- 1:05:31has to catch it with about six inches of landing room. You talk about
- 1:05:35watch the baseline, watch this on. Then he has to deliver a pass.
- 1:05:39Then there has to be a screen. Then you get the ball and
- 1:05:41have to make the shot. That's how that game ended in Quada. While
- 1:05:45while the place is just irrupting, you know, I mean the den in
- 1:05:48there, I mean it gets really loud. And also because a lot of
- 1:05:54the fans are young fans, it's really high pitched. So I mean,
- 1:05:58it's just it's just it's intense. It is a great atmosphere. And coaches,
- 1:06:02you know, Tony, you've been there many times. Coaches talk about
- 1:06:04how it is different there. Oh absolutely. I mean, you go to
- 1:06:09some of these high school gyms, man, it's it's a night and day
- 1:06:12difference. You get under that floor and the lights and the whole thing,
- 1:06:15it's a completely different game. I congratulate every single team winners and those that
- 1:06:18didn't come up with the win for just fantastic basketball. By the way,
- 1:06:25all those games, all four of the title games, are available on Metro
- 1:06:28News Television. You can watch those now and it's like they're n CUAA because
- 1:06:32it's get to Charleston, right, we want to get to Charleston. You
- 1:06:35hear that all the time. Texas says Tony, I thought you would be
- 1:06:41interested as a fellow Italian signed by Rich and Williamswick. So what that is
- 1:06:45is there. I'm gonna read this really super quick what you should look for
- 1:06:49to authenticate Italian products that you buy, and it says dispatch here the market
- 1:06:56is rife with impostors for items like parmies, parmegiano, reggiano, chief sam
- 1:07:02marzano, tomatoes, balsamic vinegar. Thankfully, these ingredients are so prized in
- 1:07:06Italy there's subject to a specific set of parameters in order to be called the
- 1:07:11real thing. This is called a DOP in Italy, which translates to a
- 1:07:15designated protected origin. This protection, set forth by the Italian government, specifies
- 1:07:20precisely how and wear an item can be made to use the official name.
- 1:07:24So the short on this is this, it's a red and yellow logo.
- 1:07:28When you go buy something and you want to know if it's absolutely authentic,
- 1:07:32you'll see the DOP on it. There's a little there's a little thing that
- 1:07:36says it's been improved. And the same thing for wines, you'll see that
- 1:07:42same designation on wine bottles that is from that specific those grapes are from that
- 1:07:45specific area. Because like you said, there's so much fraud and all of
- 1:07:50that that's out there. That is the thing that says you know it's a
- 1:07:54USDA for example, Like, Okay, that's that's the real deal. Okay,
- 1:07:58good to know. Matt and Favel wants us to get involved with some
- 1:08:02kind of a movement to have wvu's students moved for basketball games. Check with
- 1:08:10bread Brad's thanks, did it for many years. Not in that business anymore.
- 1:08:15That's kind of what I thought. You said, went to a lot
- 1:08:16of meetings on that stuff, not doing it, Fellows, while you guys
- 1:08:18were efforting. Competent people can handle that now, hoppy Fellows, while you
- 1:08:23guys were efforting with the Quad A and Triple A overtime championship broadcast Saturday.
- 1:08:27You guys need to put some respect on hoppies play by play and in game
- 1:08:32knowledge. He did an awesome job in the evening games. What can't that
- 1:08:38man do? How about show up for work? That might be one thing
- 1:08:45he can't do. He says, you're a mansion whisperer, a fashion mogul,
- 1:08:49bringing the hanky back, an independent beer icon. You know, he
- 1:08:55also is an amateur fireman. If you would, Austin, could you show
- 1:08:59us that pick sure of our friend from the Charleston Fire Department. We had
- 1:09:03an encounter Hoppy on Saturday and wonderful gentleman. Uh, actually those are see
- 1:09:11those two guys there, that's another text. Give me the one where we're
- 1:09:14standing inside the civic center there, if you would courtside the fire center there
- 1:09:17there we go Hoppy. Yes, yes, actually one of your guys.
- 1:09:20Yeah, so Steve, Steve, Steve, he had just finished. Were
- 1:09:26just biting a stairway fire. He just got back from fighting a stairways.
- 1:09:30Just a one alarm, just a one alarm, don't be thinks good they
- 1:09:31handle it. Arson. Someone puts stuff on the steps, try to burn
- 1:09:34the steps, child's play for them. Went over, said we'll handle this.
- 1:09:38But he said you Your appearance there at the fire station was really well
- 1:09:43received. Had a great visit. We uh just hung around for like a
- 1:09:47two hours. He told us that he said, we were trying to get
- 1:09:50him leave. He wouldn't. He did tell us that, you know,
- 1:09:54the alarm came in. I said, hey, you got wait a minute,
- 1:09:57I'm not finished yet. Don't rush out. Yeah, someone else get
- 1:10:01it. Yeah. They were fantastic. We had a wonderful visit and it
- 1:10:05was it was good Texter. We missed you at the Knaw Boulevard Starbuck Saturday
- 1:10:14morning. But I get it. You guys are busy, your schedule was
- 1:10:15tight. In your absence, we still had a good time. I met
- 1:10:17my local firefighters from Charleston's West Side that we're there to see Hoppy, super
- 1:10:23nice guys, huge Three Guys fans. They also got to meet my new
- 1:10:25friend Jim pictured here, and we found out that we live on the same
- 1:10:30street. Of course they do, why wouldn't they. Yeah, there they
- 1:10:33are. I'm sure we'll get together for Kerchievel's and Mountaineer games in the future.
- 1:10:38Thanks for bringing us all together, but I think you owe us the
- 1:10:41Three Guys event and Charleston sometime soon. I know a guy with a stern
- 1:10:44wheeler. Thanks again, we do need to do with Three Guys in Charleston.
- 1:10:49I think we got a lot. I think we got a lot of
- 1:10:50people there. Did you hear what he just said? You hear what he
- 1:10:54just said, Mister I don't like to leave to go to Saberton and now
- 1:10:58he's going to go down to Charleston. Okay, fun, that's fine.
- 1:11:02Wait a minute, you guys, I never said I was I said I
- 1:11:06wasn't going to be at Starbucks and you guys were talking a big game about
- 1:11:10Starbucks. What happened to Starbucks? Too early schedule? If we went over
- 1:11:15there wearing our suits and had a coffee spill, days over, catastrophic.
- 1:11:20Couldn't take that risk too early to get there, Get over there, get
- 1:11:25it, socialize and get back, get ready. Load the lighted the whole
- 1:11:29thing when't worked too much. I could have told you that when you all
- 1:11:30mentioned it, so you know what we did. You should have told us
- 1:11:32that you were on the air. We got one of the kids. We
- 1:11:36would you have listened? Would you have paid attention? No, I would
- 1:11:39have. He wouldn't have. We got one of the kids that played in
- 1:11:42the state tournament to go over to the Starbucks and he brought us the coffee.
- 1:11:47You did what? We got one of the kids that played in the
- 1:11:50state tournament and sent him over there and said, would you go get a
- 1:11:53Starbucks? Did he gets back in time for the game? Tony buys?
- 1:11:56He flies, came back. He had he had a nice game, he
- 1:11:58played well. I mean he was playing in it that day. No,
- 1:12:00he had gotten eliminated. It was Ben Loman, oh okay, Ben Loman,
- 1:12:04the first ever kid in state tournament history history that played in the state
- 1:12:10tournament and worked the camera for the championship broadcast for in that week in the
- 1:12:15same way in sports, and then added to it and made a coffee run.
- 1:12:18He's the same kid that we took out of school about a week and
- 1:12:21a half ago so he could come down and run the video stream because we
- 1:12:25didn't have anyone else. Took him out of school. MVP, that's my
- 1:12:29boy. Handled the coffee order flawlessly as well. Oh he's he can manage.
- 1:12:32He got double figures and rebounds in their game. Got double hey,
- 1:12:36the twelve rebounds when they played in the state tournament. This way Yeah,
- 1:12:41then lined up ran a camera former state goal of the year because I did,
- 1:12:45I did the broadcast. I was leaving and somebody like tapped me on
- 1:12:48their shoulders, loomed up at the cameras, Ben looming up at the cameras
- 1:12:51a location. We spotlighted them. Yeah, we spotlighted him on our broadcast.
- 1:12:57Let's see here, Texter Wrights. The three guys all get up at
- 1:13:00five or six am. What do you do at five or six am if
- 1:13:04it's not hunting season? And your guy that gets up at four h nine
- 1:13:09am. Poor buddy, he's never seen the end of a Super Bowl,
- 1:13:12missus half of West Virginia basketball games. He's screwed if we get a Thursday
- 1:13:15night football game. Monday night football is a dream. You guys need to
- 1:13:19tell the poor buddy he's allowed to walk at five pm. I guess he's
- 1:13:24in bed by then, lolj in Greenbroo County. No, that's I was,
- 1:13:29so he can't walk at five pm. I'm talking about Joe Roberts Brad
- 1:13:32Sure, and Joe is the athletics director at one of the biggest high schools
- 1:13:38in Ohio, and he is always at events at five PM, so he's
- 1:13:42got to walk early. This was written on a blog and it says this
- 1:13:56the invisible letter lurking at the end of a grocery store. I've lived in
- 1:14:02Indiana for twelve years now, and prior to that, I was born and
- 1:14:05raised in Oklahoma. In both places, I couldn't help but notice the same
- 1:14:10strange phenomenon when people talked about shopping at grocery stores. For some reason,
- 1:14:15people tend to add an S to the end of the name of the store.
- 1:14:20In the Midwest, I hear all these myers Kroger's all the time in
- 1:14:27Oklahoma. I've heard several people say Walmart's. I don't think people are suggesting
- 1:14:32that they went to multiple Kroger stores, So that's why I wrote them as
- 1:14:36possessive instead of plurals. Why do people do this? It could be because
- 1:14:43some grocery stores already end in s, whether it's a possessive or a plural
- 1:14:47name. Whole Foods, albert Sins used to be possessive, but now it's
- 1:14:53not Trader Joe's, Sprouts, Farmer or Farmer's Market, Public's and my favorite
- 1:15:00Schnooks. A Saint Louis regional chain just sounds like a word you'd call if
- 1:15:03someone wanted to characterize him as some sort of dense nincome poop. On the
- 1:15:08other hand, some of the major stores have their origins as possessive names.
- 1:15:13For instance, Meyer began as Meyers thrifty Acres, although Kroger started as Kroger
- 1:15:18Grocery and Baking Company. Did you know that Walmart was originally called Walton's five
- 1:15:24and dime, so he goes by. My guess is adding an S to
- 1:15:28the end of a grocery store name is a holdover from when many stores use
- 1:15:31the last name of the store owners as their names. So that's why people
- 1:15:36say Kroger's. A lot of people say Kroger's. They do, or the
- 1:15:42or the Kroger's or the Krogers. Yeah. Lastly, some of us just
- 1:15:47generational too with other things like I've got a bunch of people I know say
- 1:15:51best Buys. Seriously, not a grocery chain obviously, but I get best
- 1:15:57Buys. That's pretty wild, pretty well, best byes, best spyess,
- 1:16:03s byes, John Eagles, absolutely good ultiple people that give me giant Eagles.
- 1:16:10M h hey, three guys. Professor Vinnie here, it's my favorite
- 1:16:15time of the year watching the tournament, rooting for teams who you hope beat
- 1:16:17the team with the head coach you want to hire. Interesting. In all
- 1:16:24seriousness, this coaching surge is going to have to take some patience from the
- 1:16:28fans. It's going to be a long next two to three weeks. In
- 1:16:30the meantime, let's go WV women's basketball team will win and they will play
- 1:16:33checks notes Iowa most likely there, he goes. It's good Princeton. Worry
- 1:16:40about Princeton. Things will take care of themselves. Get my girl Carla first.
- 1:16:45Yeah, and not a gimmy. We'll do it. We'll do a
- 1:16:45more thorough breakdown coming up on Thursday. All right, So when we get
- 1:16:50back on Thursday, we will have obviously more information. I mean maybe you'll
- 1:17:00have more information. Who knows. I mean. All I'm saying to you
- 1:17:03all is this you know you probably won't. Yeah, you probably won't.
- 1:17:09All I'm saying is just be super. Don't buy what people say. How
- 1:17:12about that? Is that good? Unless we're here, here, we go,
- 1:17:14we say things unless Pete Thamil reports it. Don't go with it?
- 1:17:19What I missed there was a text in there that said, well, Hoppy
- 1:17:24have it before Pete Thamil, don't get mine. That's your guy. Huh
- 1:17:28hap, that's you lining up baby one seed against a one seed. Pressure's
- 1:17:32on. I think you'll get it? Who gets it? Do you think
- 1:17:35who busts it first? I don't want let me say this. No,
- 1:17:41I'm not gonna say anything. Can I tell you something? Yeah, it
- 1:17:44doesn't matter who gets it? Thing it matters to me. Well, sixty
- 1:17:47eight seconds later someone else will have it, and then thirty two seconds later
- 1:17:50someone else who cares you get a prize, you get a ribbon, you
- 1:17:55get a trophy. If someone gets it first, you know a guy told
- 1:17:58me so much. You know what someone and told me once guy I worked
- 1:18:01for he was a news director. He said, doesn't matter who gets it
- 1:18:05first, it's who gets it right. Maybe someone should go back. John
- 1:18:12Wood said, if you stole it, close it out. I got a
- 1:18:17guy bona seta We're out thanks to our producer and Austin Wright. Just remember,
- 1:18:27just remember, don't listen to hobbies. See