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You Might Want to Buckle Up, Baby with Billy Dee Williams · Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald

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  Speaker 1: Donald, you're finally in four K and you look so handsome.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck your sale machine, Zach.
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  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for leveling up. Finally, thank
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  Speaker 1: you Daniel for assisting himsure this will be the first
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  Speaker 1: episode ever. I believe maybe there's another one of fake doctors,
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  Speaker 1: real friends that we can put on YouTube in well
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  Speaker 1: high resolution. I'm not living my hair today. I wish
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  Speaker 1: it was better for this monumental moment. You look great.
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  Speaker 1: Center part. No one likes. No one likes the center part, Donald,
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Alfalfa, who does.
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  Speaker 2: Zen z is all about the middle part. They don't
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  Speaker 2: like a side part.
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  Speaker 1: I have so much to George McFly Alfalfa, Alfalfa. I
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  Speaker 1: went to Game seven, guys, and I I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: I want to miss set to Wow.
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  Speaker 1: You're mad that your friend got to go to game seven.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm not mad that you got to go to
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  Speaker 3: Game seven. I'm mad because of the outcome you put
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  Speaker 3: the fucking juju.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna blame it on me. You're gonna blame the.
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  Speaker 3: One and it said you're the one that said, look, guys,
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  Speaker 3: let's hope for game seven because then I get to go, right,
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  Speaker 3: I said, yes, fuck game seven.
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  Speaker 2: Let's win it in six. That's the way to go.
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  Speaker 2: And then all of you.
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  Speaker 3: Guys are like, no, come on, Donald, don't you want
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  Speaker 3: them to go to game seven?
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  Speaker 1: Well, in this story, I'm the reason they lost.
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  Speaker 3: You in my story, in our story, in the you
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  Speaker 3: and I story, you are the fucking reason they lost
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  Speaker 3: because you just had to go to a game, didn't you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I really had to go.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. You're gonna think this is crazy
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  Speaker 1: because of my whole history of not loving sports, But
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say I really have fun going to MSG.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a regular now. It's a it's a great stadium.
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  Speaker 1: I think I might be going tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: To the next stadium. It's an arena.
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  Speaker 4: Oh whatever, fine arena.
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  Speaker 1: I think I might be going to the Rangers game tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: The Rangers were also.
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  Speaker 2: Your bad luck for New York. Every game you go
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  Speaker 2: to they lose.
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  Speaker 5: Yo.
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  Speaker 2: You're such a bringing that Jersey shit up in there, man,
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  Speaker 2: bringing that.
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  Speaker 1: You're saying I bring. You're saying I bring New Jersey energy.
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  Speaker 1: That's ruining New.
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  Speaker 2: York's Bridge and Tunnel crowd. You bring that Bridge and
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  Speaker 2: Tunnel crowd.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know that is the new Yorker's negative term
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  Speaker 1: for people who don't live in New York. They call
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  Speaker 1: us bridge and tunnelers.
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  Speaker 3: Because you claim New York like it's yours, but really
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  Speaker 3: you got to take a bridge and a tunnel to get.
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  Speaker 1: Up and I don't take any bridge or tunnel to
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  Speaker 1: get to Manhattan. That's where I live now.
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  Speaker 2: When you were younger, this is how you know. This
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  Speaker 2: is how you know. Motherfuckers would be like, where are
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  Speaker 2: you from? And you'd be like, oh, I'm from New
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  Speaker 2: York and it'd be like, oh really, what part? Oh well, really,
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  Speaker 2: I'm from Jersey. I'm from like right across the river.
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  Speaker 3: That's how all you Jersey motherfuckers be acting, and don't
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  Speaker 3: act like you don't.
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  Speaker 2: I grew up up in New York City, and I
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  Speaker 2: know how you talk.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but I now, do you agree now that
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  Speaker 1: I'm a proper New Yorker?
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  Speaker 2: You a transplant? I'll give you that.
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck you talk? I leave heear since like
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine, Okay, I mean, I mean I'm officially a
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  Speaker 1: New Yorker and.
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  Speaker 2: The okay, I'm about to say, what are you are?
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  Speaker 1: I pay taxes. I pay taxes in LA which I
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  Speaker 1: guess means you spend six months, right, That's how they
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  Speaker 1: figure out where you're, wherever you space, wherever you spend
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  Speaker 1: six months, you have to pick. You have to pick.
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  Speaker 1: So I think I spend six months and a day
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  Speaker 1: in LA.
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  Speaker 2: At least I love New York. I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 1: It's so fun right now, dude. It's eighty degrees out.
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  Speaker 1: People now are fucking happy, right Daniel?
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  Speaker 4: You know I got the T shirt and by the way,
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  Speaker 4: we're matching zact we call each other before this.
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  Speaker 1: I know I just changed into this. I went and
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  Speaker 1: bought a shirt.
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  Speaker 2: Are the ladies wearing short shirts right now?
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  Speaker 1: Everyone? The men are in their tank tops, the ladies
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  Speaker 1: are in their sun dresses. Everyone's got a little bop.
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  Speaker 2: Is the jiggle out?
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's jiggling.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. You would go wrong.
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  Speaker 3: You can't go wrong when the city's jiggling. When the
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  Speaker 3: jiggling is I'm gonna tell you something right now, jiggling baby,
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, baby, that's all I gotta say.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone is Is it jingling or jigglingggg? Everyone's jiggling. Everyone's
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  Speaker 1: feeling themselves. Oh yeah, there was an energy, right Daniel,
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  Speaker 1: you know what you feel? It I feel it very much.
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  Speaker 1: So I was walking around green Point earlier today.
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  Speaker 4: I got my radio Bakery hat and it was nice.
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  Speaker 1: It was nice point.
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  Speaker 2: Where's green Point at Brooklyn? You grew up.
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  Speaker 1: You're bragging about your New York status and you don't
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  Speaker 1: even know where green Point is.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds very caucused.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean? What caucas Yes, I'm not go
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  Speaker 1: you made up a word.
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  Speaker 2: For waitness caucus caucus.
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  Speaker 1: I went to dinner with Johnny c McGinley last night
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  Speaker 1: in New York.
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  Speaker 2: He's in New York too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Johnny came to New York for an event he's doing,
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  Speaker 1: and we had a really fun dinner. I'm gonna try
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  Speaker 1: and bring him to the Rangers game tomorrow. Wouldn't that be.
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  Speaker 2: A hockey Detroit Red Wings fan?
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  Speaker 1: He loves hockey, and I think I'm trying to get
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  Speaker 1: us both into the garden tomorrow since you know I'm
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  Speaker 1: a regular. Now I got the hookup, I found the hookup.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell them that you're a fucking bridge and tunneler.
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  Speaker 1: You need to be nicer to me, because there's gonna
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  Speaker 1: come a point where you're gonna want my MSG hookup
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  Speaker 1: and I'll be like, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know I've senior seats. I'm good. I think I can
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  Speaker 2: do better.
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  Speaker 1: Really listen to you, really, yeah really? As a New Yorker,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have like Spike Lee seats. Are you saying
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  Speaker 1: that you have like Spike Lee level seats? I don't
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  Speaker 1: have that.
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  Speaker 2: I've sat on the floor a few times at MSG.
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  Speaker 1: You know that meme where Mariah Carey says I don't
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  Speaker 1: know her? Yeah, that's what's gonna happen when you try
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  Speaker 1: and get my MSG hook up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not calling your MSG hookup. I'm gonna I got
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 1: I just want you to know if and when a
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  Speaker 1: time comes where you're like, hey, Zach, can I have
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  Speaker 1: your MSG hookup, I'm gonna do the Mariah carry I
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  Speaker 1: don't know her.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So the next time you try and get tickets
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  Speaker 2: to an MSG event and your hookup doesn't come through,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull the Celine Dion shit on you.
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  Speaker 1: What's that sleep? What's that where the.
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  Speaker 3: Window roll where she rolls down the window to listen
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  Speaker 3: for a second, doesn't like what she hears, rolls the window,
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  Speaker 3: the car drives off.
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  Speaker 1: I told I was sending Donald pictures of all this.
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  Speaker 1: They call it Celebrity Row. All the celebrities that were
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  Speaker 1: on Celebrity Row. They had Tracy Morgan, Ben's.
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  Speaker 2: Morgan was up in there, Ben Stiller, Brian Fellows was
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  Speaker 2: in the.
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  Speaker 1: House, John Stewart, Spike.
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  Speaker 2: Lee, of course, Jason Bateman.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that there were lots of stars in the
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  Speaker 1: in the house. But on Celebrity Row, I didn't it
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  Speaker 1: was Bateman on that initial like Spike Lee Row.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. All I know is
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun. It's a blast, you jig.
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  Speaker 2: That was not a blast. The game was horrible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the game was horrible, but I don't I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to take credit for it. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: sit here and say it's my fault.
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  Speaker 2: But it is. But okay, we should probably get the
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  Speaker 2: show going. We got to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, we have a big show today. We
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  Speaker 1: have Billy d Williams, the legend. We are so excited
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  Speaker 1: and honored that he's decided to come on the show. Donald,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we need to talk to him about his
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  Speaker 1: illustrious career, not just being Lando.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm a huge fan of his. Actually, I
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  Speaker 3: followed him for a really long time.
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  Speaker 1: And you guys have something in common in that you
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  Speaker 1: both came up and began very young in New York
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  Speaker 1: City as actors.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: All right, here we go one. Donald's gonna count us in,
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  Speaker 1: and then we're going to bring in the legend. Billy
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  Speaker 1: d Williams.
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  Speaker 3: Say stories that show we made about a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: thos nurses.
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  Speaker 2: He said, he's a stories.
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  Speaker 4: Net, so yea.
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  Speaker 2: Yea se.
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  Speaker 1: Well, welcome mister Billy D Williams.
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  Speaker 2: It is sounderous.
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  Speaker 1: Applause, thunderous applause for the living legend, Billy D Williams.
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  Speaker 1: We're so honored to have you on our show. We
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  Speaker 1: know that you are out and about talking about your
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  Speaker 1: new biography, What have we here, Portrait of a Life.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us on on Fake Doctors,
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  Speaker 1: Real Friends.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: One fun thing for us. That's a connection. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know if you remember doing it, but Donald and
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  Speaker 1: I were on Scrubs for many, many years and you
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  Speaker 1: did a very very fun cameo for us. Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember doing that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, as a matter of fact, I use the footage
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  Speaker 6: whenever I do these conventions.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, that's so is it me screaming?
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  Speaker 5: You are hysterical?
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  Speaker 2: You are you?
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  Speaker 3: Your reaction is hysterical. Anyway, I'm well, man, I'm really well.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for asking.
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  Speaker 3: The last time I saw you was that celebration I
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  Speaker 3: think in Chicago. That's the last time I saw you. Yeah, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I got a picture from there too. And we look
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  Speaker 3: good together, man, I'm not gonna lie. We look real good,
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  Speaker 3: like I would say, father and son. Just gonna put
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  Speaker 3: it out there, just gonna put it out there for
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  Speaker 3: those listening.
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  Speaker 5: Nice, nice to hear.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Billy. Do you go to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: those I mean, obviously, you know you're known for so
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  Speaker 1: many roles. One of the most popular is, of course, Orlando.
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  Speaker 1: Do you go to a lot of those conventions and
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  Speaker 1: and and see the fans, because I know fans are
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  Speaker 1: just so excited whenever they see you.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I've done quite a few of those over
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  Speaker 5: the years, and I have I have a good time.
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  Speaker 5: It's fun, it's enjoyable.
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  Speaker 6: It's always nice to meet people that have given you
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  Speaker 6: a lot of support throughout the years. I mean, if
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  Speaker 6: you relied on the people in Hollywood to give your accolades,
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  Speaker 6: a lot of trouble and meet the people who've given you, know,
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  Speaker 6: all of this support throughout As I said, throughout the years, do.
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  Speaker 3: You ever have people come up to you and just
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  Speaker 3: ask you like I remember being go Long as a kid,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That was one of my
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  Speaker 3: favorite movies as a youth about Negro League baseball. It
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: was you, Richard pryor James ol Jones and you guys
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  Speaker 3: were playing baseball for the Traveling all It was being
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  Speaker 3: Along in the Traveling All Stars.
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  Speaker 2: I remember this.
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  Speaker 5: Being Go Along in the Traveling All Stars and motor Keke.
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  Speaker 2: I remember. I remember watching this movie thinking this is
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  Speaker 2: one of the best movies ever, and think this came before.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of your stuff came before. So we can start.
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  Speaker 3: We can start with Brian's song if you want to,
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  Speaker 3: but all of the stuff that you did before Lando.
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  Speaker 3: I remember when you did Lando. My the way my
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  Speaker 3: parents reacted. They were from Harlem, you know, they well
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  Speaker 3: not from Harlem. They moved to Harlem from you know,
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  Speaker 3: one from DC, one from Springfield, Massachusetts, and they wound
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  Speaker 3: up in Harlem.
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  Speaker 2: And you are a legend in Harlem, you know.
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  Speaker 5: What I mean.
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  Speaker 2: You are a Harlem legend. I have pictures.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I also grew up in Harlem.
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  Speaker 3: I grew up in house kitchen as well, but I
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  Speaker 3: grew up at the National Black Theater in Harlem, and
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  Speaker 3: that was where I got my start at a very
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  Speaker 3: young age.
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  Speaker 2: And I just.
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  Speaker 3: Remember when Empire came out, we all went to the
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  Speaker 3: movie theater to support you. I'll never forget that. I
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  Speaker 3: will never forget myself. Barbara and Tyr, my mom, my dad,
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  Speaker 3: everybody we went to the movie theater to support you,
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  Speaker 3: and we didn't really even know you. You were just
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  Speaker 3: somebody from the neighborhood. That was a legend, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and twenty fifth Street and fifth National
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  Speaker 2: Black Theater. Do you know it?
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  Speaker 5: No, I have no idea. I never heard of it.
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  Speaker 2: You're breaking my heart, Billy, do you break in my heart?
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  Speaker 1: But Billy, you and Donald had that in common, and
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  Speaker 1: that you're both were very young getting involved in the theater, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I read that you started in your first
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  Speaker 1: play was at seven years old.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was in a Broadway musical where I was
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  Speaker 6: six and a half years old.
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  Speaker 5: My mom got me started in the show business.
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  Speaker 1: How did that come about?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 6: She she was inspiring a performer. She studied opera for
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  Speaker 6: many years and she had great dreams of becoming a
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  Speaker 6: movie star, but of course in those days that wasn't
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  Speaker 6: really possible. And she was working at the Lycean Peter
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  Speaker 6: in New York City at the time for Ben Boyer
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  Speaker 6: and Max Storton. They were the Broadway managers and producers
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  Speaker 6: and they were doing this musical like court Vile at
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  Speaker 6: the time. You know who court Vile is? No, Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 6: he wrote three penny opera with berkel Brett.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, he.
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  Speaker 5: Wrote the music.
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  Speaker 6: And they were doing this this musical, the Five Brown
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  Speaker 6: of Florence, and they were looking for a little boy
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  Speaker 6: who played this page boy to the Duchess, and the
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  Speaker 6: duchess was being played by Latte Leny. You probably have
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  Speaker 6: no idea who she is. Lenny was married to Kurvile.
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  Speaker 5: She was the original pirate Jenny in threepenny Opera. Wow.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, so you could look all that stuff up and
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  Speaker 6: it's all really quite interesting.
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  Speaker 5: They were looking for a little.
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  Speaker 6: Boy up to a cast in this role, and they
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  Speaker 6: realized that my mom had this little boy, and so
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  Speaker 6: she had me auditioned. They took me down to the theater.
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  Speaker 6: There was George S. Kaufman, John Mary Anderson and all
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  Speaker 6: of these notable people at that time. And they had
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  Speaker 6: me walk cross stage one time two times, and they said, Billy,
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  Speaker 6: that's fine, great, but I I was. I became really
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  Speaker 6: enamored with the whole idea of being on a stage.
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  Speaker 6: So I decided I wanted to do it the third
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  Speaker 6: time and they said, well that's okay. Well I insisted
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  Speaker 6: and I started crying. So I always said I crawed
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  Speaker 6: my way into show business. Well that's how I kind
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  Speaker 6: of all started.
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  Speaker 1: You knew right away. You knew at seven years old.
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  Speaker 1: I like this feeling that was. It's funny because Donald
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  Speaker 1: and I have that both in common too. My first
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  Speaker 1: audition was it eight, and Donald, you started way younger.
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  Speaker 2: I started five.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, well, no, I was doing I remember traveling to Seattle,
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  Speaker 3: Washington with the National Black Leader doing a play When
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  Speaker 3: the Lion Roars that we wrote with our teacher at
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  Speaker 3: the time, and it was one of the things that
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  Speaker 3: I was homeschooled until third grade. So a lot of
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  Speaker 3: my my introduction into education and you know, community was
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  Speaker 3: through theater, which is which is which sounds amazing. It
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  Speaker 3: sounds like what your life was, you know, I like
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  Speaker 3: I I find I find it really awesome when kids can,
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  Speaker 3: you know, be hold themselves accountable at a very young age.
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  Speaker 3: That's a very powerful thing for a kid to have,
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  Speaker 3: a very powerful tool for a young child to have.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's really awesome that at seven you
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  Speaker 3: knew exactly what it was you wanted to be.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you think it's a powerful tool.
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  Speaker 6: And one experience, and I was very happy that they
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  Speaker 6: didn't have any more experiences.
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  Speaker 5: Really after that.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 5: I think kids should just simply be kids and go
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  Speaker 5: to school and interact with other kids.
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  Speaker 2: That if they want, if they wanted to, I did
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  Speaker 2: all right, I thought I did all right.
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  Speaker 5: I think it great.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Billy, you did you You went to LaGuardia.
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  Speaker 5: High School, Well, Laguario. It wasn't LaGuardia at that time.
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  Speaker 5: It was Music and Art High School.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it became LaGuardia when I joined with Performing Arts.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it moved right because it was uptown.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: Later on when I went there, it was up by
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: City College.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I think it became a Philip Randolph or something like that, right.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: I had no idea, but anyway, it was part of
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: the City College campus.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: And when you were there were you I know you
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: just said you didn't want to do any more child acting,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: But you did you do any acting in high school?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Or do you ad you focus on painting?
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I was.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: I was a painter and that's why I went to
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: music and I my sister and I so painting was
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: pretty much my focus at that time. I didn't stump
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: back doing the whole show business stuff until I was
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: like about eighteen nineteen.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Is that when you realize that's what you wanted to do.
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: I just sort of followed my instincts, and I followed
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: what life was handing me in those moments. So I
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: was busy running around trying to make out with a
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: lot of ladies.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I was about to say, man, at that age, at
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen, you wanted a handsome miss motherfuckers on the
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: planet stayed one hundred bro.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: I left the musical art in high school.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: I went to a school called the National Academy and
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: designed for the fine arts. I spent two years on
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: a scholarship painting, and when I was about eighteen nineteen,
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: I was nominated for a Googen Hide and also won
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: a Hall garden, which is comforable to a Google hid.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: But that's pretty much what I was doing at that time.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: And then somehow I segued my life, so segued back
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: into the world of theater.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: So I did a lot of theater in those years.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: When did you realize that you were being considered for
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: such I mean, obviously you must have known that you
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: people thought of you as a very handsome man. That's
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: not happened to me or Donald.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting for my It hasn't.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Yet happened to us. But we're wondering when you realized
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: that you were such a sex symbol to people.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Well, when I walked out of the room, yes, So
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: how did call forty five come about?
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Like what happened that all of a sudden you were like,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: you know what this is? Because I remember those commercials
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: as a youth. Also, I remember the bull I remember you,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I remember works every time.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I remember how did that come about?
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: They asked me to the smokest person for at that time.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: So when I look at like Zach and I we
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: work with T Mobile right now, that's the brand that
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: we do a lot of really cool commercials with and
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. We look at it like we're happy
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: that the contract is still going. Did you know back
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: then how long your contract was going to be? Because
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: that Mo Liquor owes you a debt of gratitude.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: You're the reason why it's sold. Why it's sold.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Everyone wanted to cool. Everyone wanted to be cool, you.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Know what I mean.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Did you know that it was going to last that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: long when you first signed on? Was that the deal.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Last than ten years? So? But I don't know. I
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: just did it and I enjoyed it. I had a
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: lot of fun doing it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: All right, We're going to take a quick break and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: we'll be right back with more Billy Deane Williams.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Well, you take a look at my one of my paintings.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: That's beautiful whole time.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: It's gorgeous.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Love it. Do you still paint often?
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: I'm not doing as much as I should be doing,
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: but I still work at it.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: It's really really beautiful. Do you ever show your work
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: in a gallery?
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: I saw my work at a number of galleries throughout
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: the years, but not recently.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really liked that one behind you.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: I have like over three hundred. I'm in my studio
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: right now, actually, but I have over three hundred paintings
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: stored away wild.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Can you tell us about the one behind you?
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Well, this is a sort of, in some small way,
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: is expressing something about my sister by deceased insisting.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Another gigantic moment in your career was the legendary Brian song,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: which I remember being an enormous moment in television. I
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: believe it like broke all records. You wrote that down,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Joel wrote down for us.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: What the what the million live viewers?
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty five million Americans tuned in to watch Brian's song,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: which I don't think is something that's happened very often
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: on the planet. What do you think it was about
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that film that resonated with so many people.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: Well, I've always regarded that whole experience as an act
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: of love. It was a very one of the rare
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: special moments in my life or anybody's life. Really, I
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: don't know, you know, it's it just resonated with people.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: It was a beautiful love story between two guys with
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: a two straight guys.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: It had all of the elements of athos and fun and.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: It was about, you know, two guys who from two
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: different backgrounds coming together in a really beautiful, wonderful way,
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: which has always been very difficult for people to express.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know the racial differences, you know, on
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: the ethnicity differences.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: And it worked.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: It worked because well, I think one Jimmy and I
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: had a great chemistry and uh, and so that really
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: people responded to that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know, it was It was just a beautiful story.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: It makes me think of Donald and I in some
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: ways because our characters are on Scrubs. We're not only
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: best friends, but the show allowed us to show emotion
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: that even in the year two thousands, people still were
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: We're not. It wasn't a common occurrence to show two
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: straight guy friends being so close, being so open with
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: their love for each other. It feels like it's it's,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: you know, a similar thing. I don't know, Donald, if
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: you've ever thought about that.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Sports does that though, man, Sports has a way of
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: of of of touching people. This is actually a real story,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: and if I'm correct, the monologue you do at the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: end of the movie is verbatim. It was like, it
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: must have felt like doing a play. You know what
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: he said, it's documented and now you're playing this character.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Did you and James ever hang out after that, like,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, God rest his soul. But did you guys,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: were you guys buddies after that? Because the chemistry that
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: you have in the film is amazing.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, actually were two different people.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: He was more of a gangster, just a sweet little boy.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: So it was a very quiet area loving.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: He was loving in his own way, but we were
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: we were not compatible, but hanging.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Out with each other.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: He really was a gangster. I were listening to this
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: audiobook that's about the making of Godfather and as called
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: leave the Leave the Gun, Take the Canoi, and Uh,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: it's incredible how he knew the world. It seemed like
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: he was very familiar with the world of the movie.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And then when he got the part, he went even
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: further in to do quote unquote research. Hanging out with
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the fellas.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he had was pretty much a part of the
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Las Vegas group.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: I think, I mean, I've known a lot of gangsters
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: in my life, but I'm not a gangster.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: I think he was much more into that kind of lifestyle.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Now a Brian song, It's amazing he went from one
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: enormous thing to the next because Brian's song was such
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: an incredible phenomenon. And then when you joined the Star
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Wars world with Empire Strikes Back. I mean, nothing could
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: have been bigger than that. Was that? Was that a
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: big life change for you when all of a sudden
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you're being recognized. I'm sure everywhere.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I mean all of the movie roles came after that too,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: like so many movie roles came after that.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Well, I did a lot of movie roles in a
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: few I mean, Ladies Sings.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Blues, great movie, one of my favorites.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: A movie called It, which was a kind of an interest,
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: and there were others. I expressed a lot of it
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: in the book because of the kind of exchanges I've
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: had with the people that I have worked with, which
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: I thought were pretty interesting. It was a kind of
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: part of a life lesson. But certainly I'm just daddy
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: and kind of a husband. I did, so, I don't know.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: Your stories are a lot more.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Interesting, oh, I know, But our audience is so bored
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of hearing about our stories. Believe that's why we have
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: to have interesting people like you on to tell us,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: because Donald and I have shared them every anecdote in
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: our lives so far.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: Well, I've had a pretty extraordinary life, you have. I
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: like most people I think, starting at a very early
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: point in my life.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: My life, to me is a very eclectic.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: I always see it, as I always say, I see
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: myself as the full spectrum of colors. When I did Lando,
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: for instance, and I heard the name cal RISI I thought, wow,
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: that's interesting.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: It's in our median name. And I thought, let me
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: see what I can do with this.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: And and then of course when I got the Kate,
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: that sort of solidified everything that was into the Earl
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: Finn Row. So I put those ideas together and I
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: came up with I thought was bigger than life, special
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: kind of a character.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: He's my favorite character in the whole universe. That's who
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I identified with growing up, and I appreciated. I've seen
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of your movies, actually, the one you did
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: with Sylvester Stallone, Were you Guys Are Chase Yeah Night,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Were you Guys are Chasing Dude through the subway and
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: all of that stuff.
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: Yes, he was probably one of the best.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Ever, was his Yeah. And then you and you and
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Richard Pryor did a few movies together, but Bingolong and
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: then Lady Sings the Blues.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I think you know, your performance in that is amazing
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Bingolong is one of my favorite movies as a kid.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that movie. It was because of the
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: way my dad reacted when he watched the movie and
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: the way my mom reacted to you guys, there was
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: like three legends.
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: That movie was a in my opinion, a very special experience.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: At the time when Paramount was distributed movie, they thought
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: they weren't very accommodating in the sense that they didn't
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: know what to do with the movie about a bunch
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: of black guys running around the country playing baseball.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: But I always felt that at some.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: Point or another that movie would have resonate in a
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: very interesting, in an historical way.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: It was a lot of fun to do that movie.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: I really enjoyed it, not always because of the actors
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: I was working with, but we worked with a real
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: baseball players from the Negro leagues, and that was a
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: lot of fun.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: It was very interesting.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: I followed and I used to go out and watch
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: them all the time in Central Park. We used to
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: go out and watch some the Cuban baseball players.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, way back in the day before you were born.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean that was but that was my dad
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and I's bond was sports. You know what I mean.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: If it wasn't Bengolong in The Traveling All Stars, it
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: was the fish that Save Pittsburgh, you.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: Know what I mean.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Like, that's how my dad and I expressed love for
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: each other when we were a kids and when I
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: was as a kid. And so it's going to sound crazy,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: but the fact that Darth Vader and Lando cal Rissian
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: were in a movie and Richard Pryor was the comic
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: relief in it, I just thought I couldn't fathom, Like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: as a youth, how is this put together? How did
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: they make this happen? And I was kind of young
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: when Ladies Sing Sings the Blues came out, But then
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: as a grown up watching it, I mean, you personify cool.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: You are what you know a lot of these cats
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: out here are trying to do now?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Uh, you know you're.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Gonna let my hand fall off. Like there's so many
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: amazing moments in that movie. And you know, I wonder
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: do you do you and Diana ross Epper still talk?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Do you guys say hello to each other every once
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: in a while?
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Well again, yeah, you.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Guys had magic too, like you have, like your.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: Chemistry, chemistry. Yeah, man, it really worked very well.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Let's take a break.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. Donald, you
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: kind of touched on it, but and Joelle too, Billy,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you know, for Dwell and Donald are massive Star Wars
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: universe fans, and I just thought you could just just
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: speak to a little more both of you about what
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: it felt like to see, you know, an African American
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: man entering in and being one of the leads in
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: something that you were so passionate about it. And Donald,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you've spoken before about how you felt like you saw
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: yourself entering the world of that space.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Well, Star Wars didn't become Star Wars until Lando shows up,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Star Wars was watching a
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: bunch of white people run around with blasters and stuff
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: like that and guns, and it was cool and stuff.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: But then when Lando shows up, it was like, oh shit,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I can be in Star Wars too, you know, I
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: can be I could you know? Oh and he gets
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: to fly to Millennium Falcon. Okay, well, you know, and
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: that became one of the reasons why I became an actor,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: because I knew at a very young age there's no
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: way I'll be able to do all of that stuff
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: in real life. Fantasy is the way to go be
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: coming in, you know, And for me it was that.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: And I didn't see myself until that moment. And then
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: as an adult, you know, the decisions that Lando Calrissian
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: has to make. Those are real life decisions, real big
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: boy decisions. And you know I would react the same
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: way I would. You know, It's just I don't know, man,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: It's one of those things.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't turn Han Solo in, though, dom I.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Would turn Han Solo into a heartbeat to save a
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: whole city of people.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: That's like you saying to me, dude, I'm coming into
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: New York and I'm like, all right, come through, but
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I know that when you get there, you're probably gonna
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: get arrested by the cops. And I don't say nothing
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: because if I say something to you, they're gonna probably
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: arrest me. But if if not, only are they going
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: to arrest me, they're going to fucking destroy the whole
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: city that I'm.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: So, you don't false Orlando for his well, no, he
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: did the right thing.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: He protected millions of people in Cloud City.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: And no, and and and and Billy d has the
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: greatest quote ever line ever nobody died.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I love how passionate you you are about it,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure Billy, you run into people that are
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: this passionate about it all the time. It meant so
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: much to so many people.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: So it's all very interesting.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that you studied with Sidney Portier man.
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: That's that's he was at one point he was teaching,
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: just prior to his whole life changing and becoming a
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: big movie star.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: So you you you and him were working together before
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the fame.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well I knew Sydney. There's a ten year difference.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: I'm eighty seven. He was when he may passed. I
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: guess he was about eighty six. Yeah, I knew him
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: through friends of mine back in those years. He was
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: that time, I think with another company. I don't know
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: it was your company or some other.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: No, he was with the Harlem Actors Workshop. That's something
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: that's not the.
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: Right, okay, And it was I think working as a
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: dish washer at one of the restaurants and one hundred
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: and twenty fifth Street.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: He did one television show.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: I think called A Man of Ten Feet Tall, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: then that same television show he ended up doing with
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: John Cassavetti's it was called The Edge of the City.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: He was, I guess, in a sense, the chosen one
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: at that time in those years. He was quite brilliant.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: And the thing I always liked about Sydney it was
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: that he was very much a part of the new
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: genre of actors at the time that were involved with
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: Stanislavsky and Bull and you know, the method and all
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: that sort of stuff. He brought a whole new spirit,
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: a whole new way of approaching acting as far as
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: black actors were concerned.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Were you heavy into method, Oh, very much so.
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: I'm part of that generation.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: He was quite inspiring. But there were others too. There
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: were people like Wanaandez.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: There were people like Frank Silvera, who was one of
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: my favorite actors at that time. As far as I
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: hesitate to use the term black actors, to me, just
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: simply wonderful.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Did you ever get to work with any of them?
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: Only? Never work with Sydney never, except you know, through teaching.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: I never worked with Frank Solvero, never worked with on this, No,
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: but I always I have tremendous admiration for the way
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: they approach the craft.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: What do you credit Billy to you looking and looking
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: like you're forty five years old. Still, what is the secret?
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Because Donald and I complain about our wrinkles and we're
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: forty nine and fifty and you just look so incredible,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: And so many people don't stay as lucid and clear
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and work and have the full life that you have.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is there anything you look back on and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: go you recommend people do to have a longevity like you?
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Well, you just live at the watch life and you know.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, it's nature not nurture, right, yeah?
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Or both are both Okay.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: We're both okay, Well, you're looking credible. I want to
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: remind everyone Billy's book is called what have We Here?
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: A Portrait of a Life, and it's on shelves now.
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  Speaker 1: Billy d thank you so much for taking the time
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  Speaker 1: to be with us. We really really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, thank you very much, Thank you for inviting. Have
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  Speaker 5: a wonderful good very well, Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Too, be blessed, Thank you, and I.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: God, he's such a legend. And uh, I was just
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: happy for you because I know that what An impacts
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: that movie and and that role.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: His career is very much like mine. And you could
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: hear it in what he was saying, you know what
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I mean. He called Sydney the chosen one.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: There are a bunch of people, you know that as
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: an actor that you sweat. You know, he's in my opinion,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: I think it's a blessing. If Sidney Portier is the
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: actor that you sweat.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a blessing, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I was very lucky to get to
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: work with a lot of my idols. I got to
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: work with Denzel, I got to work with Billy d Williams.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I've got to you know what I mean. These things
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: don't these things don't happen. And in hearing his conversation
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: about his life, he didn't get to work with the
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: people that he wanted to work with.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: You know, that inspired him.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: And so I just from listening to him as much
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: as he inspired me, I realized how lucky I am to,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: you know, get to do the things that I want
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  Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, that's one and two. You know, as
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: as you become, as you get older, you can't just
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: focus on this acting ship for the rest of your life. Man,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: you got to find something else to satisfy you. And
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: he's so lucky and blessed to be able to fall
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: back on art, you know, by the.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Way, that's that's the thing you guys have in common too,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that that that you know, you do your animation. He's
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: you know, painting sounds like it's been his lifelong passion.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for since. I guess it's what he wanted
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: to do instead of being an actor.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: And I wish I had something like that. I need
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to pick something up like that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: What about photography, No, I do.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I shoot a lot of pictures and I love photography,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: but I I I lately I've been thinking as I watch,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: as I always say, as I was listening, I was
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: thinking of his love of painting and you know, your
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: love of animation. I'd love to have something that I
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you know, whether it's you know, playing the piano, or
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: or something that I that I can fiddle with in
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: my house besides my peep.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna be honest with you. Fiddling with my
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: peep is one of my favorite things to do.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I know you're very good at it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I'm very skilled, I'm a master.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I can't do that now because I have a really
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: bad tennis elbow?
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Hold on, what does your elbow have to do with
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: fiddling with your peep?
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Well, fortunately, it's only it's my left hand that's really bad.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: So I unless I'm doing the stranger, I'm fine, but I.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Have to say no stranger, Daniel, you were gonna give
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: me some tips for my from my tennis.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: By the way, audience, I learned as a fake doctor
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that I always assumed that tennis elbow had to do
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: with your playing so much tennis and your armors. They
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: just call it that because it's the muscle on the
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: back of your forearm that gets strained. But Daniel, what
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: do you do for it? Because mine not the blue
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: hurts just hashtag getting old, hashtag getting old.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: But don't worry, I'm suffering from it as well, so
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: you know it's hardly an old thing. But my doctor
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: recommends that you do more lifting, more strengthening of that spot.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: I know, but you know the reason it's called tennis.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: So so right now, well it comes from that muscle.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: For me, it's the kind of like explosive motion of
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: for me throwing a frisbee, and if you play tennis,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: it's swinging a tennis racket, and if all of the
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: exercise on that is just from this kind of like
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: explosive motion, you're really working that muscle really hard. At
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: least that's what I'm learning.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: So doing something. I got this ice leave on the
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: internet that helps. The sleeve is good. I have. I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: have a compression sleeve that I wear whenever I play. No,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: this is a ice one. You put it. It's the jelly.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: It's that jelly material and it's a sleeve and you
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: put it in the freezer and then you slide it
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: on and it feels real nice. Well that's all.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry elbows. I'm so sorry you guys, your elbow herts.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: But you lost me just now, me and the rest
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: of the audience.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Just like this.
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  Speaker 1: No, there are listeners out there who have occasional tennis.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: It's like maybe for listeners right now, I agree exactly
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: the plenty there's plenty of times where you're talking about
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: some fucking video game no one gives a shit about. Exactly, Daniel,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: how quickly you turn on your time.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: I know that no one gives a shit about what
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about. Hey, I as I'm aware that when.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about plenty of times where I just leaned
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: back in my chair and let you all talk about
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: fucking some fucking bullshit video game.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: I know I mentioned Ultimate Frisbee, and I'm really talking
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: to two of our listeners.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Ultimate Frisbee. You've got a bunch of stoners out there
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: listening to us. Hell, there are a bunch of people
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: that are like, yo, fuck, it's eighty degrees in New
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: York right now, I'm going outside fucking.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Throw some frisbee in sheep's meadow. Ultimate Frisbee, Well, I
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: think I've mentioned this. It was invented at Columbia High
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: School my Homa mono, which you can google if you
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: don't believe Joel Silver. I believe.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Wait, Joel Silver, the producer, Yes, created Ultimate Frisbee.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, at Columbia High School.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Did you play Ultimate frisbee, Daniel?
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I played in college and I still play now three times.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Do you play frisbee golf?
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: Ever?
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: I played frisbee golf sometimes hit a disc golf.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Can I ask you guys a question, because I've never
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: played ultimate frisbee?
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: What is sure soccer with the frisbee?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Basically yeah, Oh you can't run with it. We can't
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: run with it when you have, but you.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Correct kind of plays it, kind of plays like soccer
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: and football where you throw it into an end zone.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Oh so there's no there's no throwing it into its
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: no goal.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: But first step is you get very high.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Any anytime you play any freaking game created in a
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: meadow a field like Hackie Sack and or frisbee, you
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: gotta be high first.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: The first step, the first step of ultimate Frisbee is
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: you pull the bong here.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, right.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Then step two is you meet your friends at the park.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: No no, no, no no no. Step three, when you
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: get to the park, you smoke a little bit more.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, and then once you're once you've gotten into the park,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you you pull another bong here.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Supporting evidence for this, there's no better rolling tray than
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: an upside down frisbee, no better a.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: High walls. You don't lose your ship. You don't lose
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: your ship.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, everyone, that's our show, Thank you so much.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: You know, uh, I really appreciate Billy d coming on
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the show. He's eighty seven years old. He doesn't have
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: to fucking talk to us. But yeah, he took a
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: day time.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: He took day time. Yeah, he did. He got a book,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: and you guys should all go out and read it.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go check out his book. I'll bet you in
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: the book, he expounds, expounds.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: That's correct, that's correct, Joell.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for I want to give
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: you your flowers, because not only did you get us
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Billy D Williams, but you also did a wonderful job
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: producing this segment and helping us navigate all our questions.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: And I really appreciate you.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: It's my pleasure.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: And Dan, you're fine too, Thanks.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Daniel, thank you for getting this HK or HK four K.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: There you got HK. That's where I'm from. Hell's Kitchen.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: All right, everybody, that's our show. Donald, do you have
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: any final things you want to tell all these lovely people?
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Do you want to thank them for tuning into our podcast?
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I do want to thank them for tuning into our podcast.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I also want to thank Billy D Williams, such a
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: wonderful guest. Thank you very much. I feel like I
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: know you more than i've ever known you before.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: And we are honored. We know that you're eighty seven
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: and you don't have to suffer fools, and yet you
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: suffered our.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Fooledom, our foolishness.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I wish fool them was a word.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: It can be, it is now. I mean, who says
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: it Isn't you just made it up?
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Do you want to come with me and Johnny C
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: to the Rangers game tomorrow night? I know somebody to
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: get you to ask.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to ask me something completely different.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: What did you think I was gonna say?
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Do you say, do I want to come?
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: And I was gonna say absolutely stories. I'm not sure
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: we made about a bunch of tops and nurses.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: Said the stories.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: So yeah, round here, yeah, here for you.
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  Speaker 5: M