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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honeybadger Radio. And sorry about
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  Speaker 1: the slight delay, but the various things were going on.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Brian Alison. And this is maintaining Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: we're actually not a maintaining frame. I figured this is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's more appropriate that it's a dating show. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be talking about the very I would say, pretty popular
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  Speaker 1: sort of game theory, PUA guy Alexander Grace, uh, coming
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  Speaker 1: to terms with reality and unfortunately this is just the
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  Speaker 1: sad truth of it. Yeah, women are not in the
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  Speaker 1: place that I guess PUA types could benefit from. And
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  Speaker 1: he has done something that I have not seen, uh
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  Speaker 1: really at all from anybody, which is an admission. It's
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  Speaker 1: so it's so refreshing that I thought it should have
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  Speaker 1: a show. No, I'm the one who suggested this one.
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's a place for responding to
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  Speaker 1: people like manifestel. But I'm getting to the point now
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  Speaker 1: where if they become extremely predictable, like what where they're
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  Speaker 1: going to land which is always the same place, I
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  Speaker 1: don't really I get, I just need a change of pace. Well, well,
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  Speaker 1: we can respond to her in the future. If you
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  Speaker 1: guys got like some kind of weird fetish about it.
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  Speaker 1: But I just want to take a break and like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, look at somebody else for a.
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  Speaker 2: Little some kind of logical thread with the things that
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  Speaker 2: he says and actually can self reflect.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I think that there's well that's
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  Speaker 1: why I thought this video would be good, because I
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  Speaker 1: think there's something that is that he is seeing that
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  Speaker 1: I think needs to be looked at. And I think
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  Speaker 1: we've been saying this for a while, but but now,
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  Speaker 1: like these kind of like game theory PUA type guys,
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  Speaker 1: they're also like you know this, so okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I was watching I believe his name is Psychics,
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  Speaker 2: and he talked about how if you want to appeal
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  Speaker 2: to a male audience, you essentially give them an outlet
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  Speaker 2: for their anger at the current situation. I wonder how
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  Speaker 2: much is pick of artists realizing that there's sort of
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  Speaker 2: been a sea change and a lot of men are
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  Speaker 2: turning away from dating, not necessarily because of the obstacles,
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  Speaker 2: because the reward, you know, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, like they've basically like an average or
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  Speaker 2: a blow average woman expects so much and gives so
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  Speaker 2: little the men are just like, well, it's not really
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  Speaker 2: worth it, you know. And even even a woman who's
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  Speaker 2: attractive is an incredibly unpleasant companion and a huge financial liability.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of men are just you know why.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the other thing, Like women are making it
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  Speaker 2: abundantly clear that love isn't on the table in terms
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  Speaker 2: of relationships, that they will maybe consider you a useful convenience.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying this, I'm not trying to exaggerate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm repeating what I'm seeing from women overwhelmingly, Like the
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  Speaker 3: overwhelming message from women on TikTok on YouTube is that
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  Speaker 3: they don't love men.
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  Speaker 2: They don't think they should have to and to be
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  Speaker 2: in a relationship with one, And yeah, they just they
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  Speaker 2: want you to jump through the hoops. They want you
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  Speaker 2: to make her feel desirable, and they don't want to
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  Speaker 2: offer anything because there are the table. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if this is precisely the entire female guestalt. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure a lot of this online stuff is just targeted
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  Speaker 2: towards women who want to still be right while they
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  Speaker 2: exist in the shambles of their own lives, so that
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  Speaker 2: they don't have to because it's better to feel right
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  Speaker 2: about everything, even if you're miserable and your life is
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  Speaker 2: the most smoking crater than it is to feel like
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  Speaker 2: you've made a mistake, even though if that is pointed out,
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  Speaker 2: you might be able to fix it and no longer
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  Speaker 2: live in a smoking crater. Right, So it's better to
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  Speaker 2: feel right and sink with High Brazil than admit that
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  Speaker 2: High Brazil is sinking and save your life, you see
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? And and yeah, so that's the overwhelming
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  Speaker 2: message I'm hearing from these women. It's just justification for
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  Speaker 2: why women are failing in their relationships. And I know
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  Speaker 2: that this sounds like the reverse of the insults, but
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  Speaker 2: the insults don't even get to the point of having
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  Speaker 2: relationships that they can fail in. And most of the
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  Speaker 2: guys who failed in their relationships, yeah, maybe they were
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  Speaker 2: personally not as good as they could have been, But
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  Speaker 2: did they deserve to lose their children and their house
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  Speaker 2: and other income to women who then marry men who
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  Speaker 2: make more Like you know, it's it just seems so
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  Speaker 2: one sided. And then again, it all starts with that
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  Speaker 2: incredibly one sided narrative that men oppressed women. All right,
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  Speaker 2: I am, I'm gonna do the things and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: Sorry an you guys think of my Knacotomy Plaza Christmas
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  Speaker 1: totally a Christmas movie. Anyway, Let's get into Alexander Grace's video.
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  Speaker 1: This is called we Are Done. And as I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna say, Alexander dur Grace had a pretty popular channel
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  Speaker 1: about four He's got about three hundred and seventy thousand
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  Speaker 1: subs right now, and it was a game theory, dating
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  Speaker 1: advice sort of you know, uh, relationship advice coach type
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  Speaker 1: of content. A lot of times of doing the alex
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  Speaker 1: site thing where it's all about like you know, putting
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  Speaker 1: the agency the locus of control on men. And he's
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  Speaker 1: been doing this for many years now, at least I
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  Speaker 1: want to say, like seven years, and he's come to
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  Speaker 1: a realization he's had an epiphany about the absolute state
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  Speaker 1: of relationships.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, and you're.
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  Speaker 4: Like, what the hell are you No.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's it's basically the framework, like
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  Speaker 2: the woman is like a feral tiger in the jungle,
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  Speaker 2: and here are the keys to approaching and capturing one.
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  Speaker 2: And then I guess he's coming to the to the
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  Speaker 2: point where he's like, but why are we risking being
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  Speaker 2: mulled for something that will most likely eat us in
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  Speaker 2: our sleep? You know? Okay? Anyway, those Sorry, I just
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  Speaker 2: wanted to It's okay, it was hilarious. It's like everything
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  Speaker 2: is on men. It just occurred to me. It's like
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  Speaker 2: women are the tigers in the safari in this context.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, anyway, Okay, if.
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  Speaker 4: You're a male and you're like, what the hell? There's
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  Speaker 4: no good females out there to date? These are all
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  Speaker 4: trash options?
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  Speaker 1: What do I do?
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  Speaker 4: I was talking to my boyfriend the other day and
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  Speaker 4: he was telling me that he had such a hard
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  Speaker 4: time finding a girlfriend before he met me. And this
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  Speaker 4: is why, tell me if you agree. So he would
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  Speaker 4: walk up to a lot of different females. That's basically
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  Speaker 4: what he did to me is how he found me. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: And when he walked up to these females, he would
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  Speaker 4: say hi, just like that, and when to start a conversation,
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  Speaker 4: he said, so many people would just look him in
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  Speaker 4: the eyes and either just walk away, like straight up
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  Speaker 4: look at him and just leave, or they would give
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  Speaker 4: him like the biggest resting bitch face and then be
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  Speaker 4: such a bitch to him that it's like, why would
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  Speaker 4: you even want to have a conversation. It's like you're
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  Speaker 4: talking to a wall or someone that wants to stab
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  Speaker 4: you in the face.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And so that he's gonna agree with that, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: get into that. But I wanted to pause for the banana.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is a really good video, and he's
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  Speaker 1: he's got another really good video that's related to this
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  Speaker 1: one that I also brought up because it talks about
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  Speaker 1: an experiment, a study that was done that I thought
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  Speaker 1: was pretty interesting. But first I got a super chat,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna just get it out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: Albert Ata Retro gave a soud dollars Canadian and said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm here, so you know this is important. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for that. Okay, so you know what.
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  Speaker 2: I would have completely thought that everything that we're doing
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  Speaker 2: is utterly useless, but now, up.
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  Speaker 1: Until now, yes, thank you for validating us.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for flating.
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  Speaker 1: I've been wasting my time for ten years doing videos.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, let's keep going, all right, Men are sick it.
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  Speaker 5: You can only put up with being treated like you
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  Speaker 5: are subhuman for so long before you are just done.
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  Speaker 5: You quit. And that is what men are doing on.
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  Speaker 6: Mass Statistics show that forty eight to fifty nine percent
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  Speaker 6: of single men between the ages of eighteen and forty
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  Speaker 6: have never asked a woman out on a date in
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  Speaker 6: the past year.
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  Speaker 5: So I actually want to start out this video with
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  Speaker 5: an apology from me to my audience because there is
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  Speaker 5: something that I have consistently gotten wrong over the years.
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  Speaker 5: I feel shitty.
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  Speaker 1: Do you guys guess what it is?
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  Speaker 2: This is the thing that we haven't gotten consistently wrong
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  Speaker 2: over the years. But you know, it's good to see
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  Speaker 2: the pickup artist finally picking up on stuff that we've
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  Speaker 2: been putting down like ten years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I figure, if anybody's gonna get they're gonna learn first.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be the puays. They're gonna be the first
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  Speaker 1: one they were okay first. No, No, I mean like
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna be the first ones to deal with it
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  Speaker 1: in like, you know, in reality, like when it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: start to affect them and they're gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Say yeah, but we were like, I mean, I know
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  Speaker 2: what you mean, but I think you need a qualification
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  Speaker 2: because we exist now that we've been validated by Albert
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  Speaker 2: Nada retro. So we exist. And we picked up on
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  Speaker 2: this a long time ago. And you know, I know
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  Speaker 2: this isn't I told you so, but this is the
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  Speaker 2: stuff we were talking about. We're like, the pickup artists
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  Speaker 2: are like, oh, well, you can't question you gotta judge
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  Speaker 2: yourself by the worth of and the red pillars in
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  Speaker 2: some ways are very similar. That's why Rollo blocks me
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  Speaker 2: because I pointed out that he's still judging men's value
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  Speaker 2: by their ability to appeal to women. And we've been
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  Speaker 2: pointing this out for decades now that okay, yeah, yeah
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  Speaker 2: we can. We can spend a long time talking about
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  Speaker 2: what men what hoops men need to jump through to
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  Speaker 2: peal to women. But is it worth it? Like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't mean, I'm even set aside all the
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  Speaker 2: the the bimbos on the whatever podcast and whatever else?
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  Speaker 2: Is it worth it when the family courts are the
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  Speaker 2: way they are? Is it worth it when men don't
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  Speaker 2: have protections legal or social against women's violence? You know?
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  Speaker 2: Is it worth it when women are inc inculcated, inculcated
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  Speaker 2: to an attitude towards men that includes believing that they
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  Speaker 2: oppress them, which creates a moral hierarchy with women on top,
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  Speaker 2: with women in the position of judging, Like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: question these things, look at these things? Does it matter?
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  Speaker 2: Does is it worth it? Like I said, I just
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  Speaker 2: wanted to say, you said he's the pickup artist? Would
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  Speaker 2: be the first. I don't think they were the first.
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  Speaker 2: I think we were the first to start asking yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I guess what I mean is will they be the
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  Speaker 1: first to apologize.
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  Speaker 2: Tooism, maybe talk to us, you know, like ask us, well, wait, well,
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  Speaker 2: what what do you what do you guys see?
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  Speaker 1: What do you what is it? Like?
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  Speaker 2: Where is all this coming from? Because suddenly we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: it too, and you guys are all going to see
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  Speaker 2: it Because when and I had this conversation, I'm like, everything,
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  Speaker 2: everything in our politics, everything in our identities is all
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  Speaker 2: predicated on men being able to create a comfortable situation,
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  Speaker 2: Like men are the ones building the couches that we're
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  Speaker 2: sitting hand having these discussions about rarefied aspects of our
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  Speaker 2: identity and politics and all of this other stuff. When
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  Speaker 2: men productivity declines to a certain point, we're not going
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  Speaker 2: to be having these conversations because we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: in a smoking crater. So everything is subordinate to this
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  Speaker 2: issue of the relationship between the sexes and whether it's
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  Speaker 2: not it's functional functional to motivate both to be productive, Like,
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  Speaker 2: everything is subordinate to it. Nothing else exists without that
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  Speaker 2: first working, and it's starting to break down more and
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  Speaker 2: more and more, so you know, it's like, this is
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  Speaker 2: this is big. This is a big problem, and we
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  Speaker 2: are spending so little time trying to solve it and
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure it out. In fact, I think that
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  Speaker 2: we might be some of the few people who do that.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not even sure if other men's rights advocates
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  Speaker 2: have explicitly made that connection between the situation the men
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  Speaker 2: face and the ultimate destruction of our damn society. Like
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure they they've started to. I
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  Speaker 2: think it was a Migtal that really made that connection first.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like and then they said, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, we're we're quitting. We're just we're withdrawing our
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  Speaker 2: productivity from a society that doesn't serve us. And again,
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  Speaker 2: men are not do not owe society anything. They don't
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  Speaker 2: owe anybody anything. They don't owe anybody their labor. And
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  Speaker 2: of course, okay, I'm gonna step off my step off, Yeah, bride.
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  Speaker 1: There's more. There's more again, there was always more coming
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  Speaker 1: for me. We're just starting the video. Yeah, like save it,
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  Speaker 1: say that Nata retro gives it to it. I was Canadian, says, well,
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  Speaker 1: now you two know it was all worth it, all right,
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  Speaker 1: continuing in the video where the where they did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to continue the video now. He's going to
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  Speaker 1: start his apology the about it.
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  Speaker 5: And I want to admit to you guys, when I
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  Speaker 5: make a mistake, own up to it, say that I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 5: and I really mean this. I have rationalized and excused
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  Speaker 5: women's rudeness when men approach them for far too long.
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  Speaker 5: I focused on the man. I focused on game and
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  Speaker 5: how men can overcome that resistance, instead of analyzing that
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  Speaker 5: resistance itself and holding women accountable. Let me explain to
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  Speaker 5: you why I made this mistake. Understand, I came of
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  Speaker 5: age in the two thousands and so I have never
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  Speaker 5: known what it's like to live in a culture where
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  Speaker 5: women do show respect for men. Whenever I saw a
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  Speaker 5: man approach a woman to try and talk with her.
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  Speaker 5: I routinely saw women laugh, ignore him, insulting him, or
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  Speaker 5: just spend the interaction being rude to the man as
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  Speaker 5: a way of shit testing him.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, do you remember there was one tweet I
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  Speaker 2: sent to Alex Syke that I think ended up getting
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  Speaker 2: me a lot of ship, and I essentially said, or
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  Speaker 2: at least pushed back from him, this Alex Syke is
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  Speaker 2: not this guy though, I'm pretty sure, right, no, no, no, no, no, Alex.
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  Speaker 1: Alex Syke looks like a construct of what a game.
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  Speaker 1: He's got like a man bun and like a go tee.
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  Speaker 1: And you know this, this is Alexander Grace is a
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  Speaker 1: regular guy. He's like a real like dude. I think
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  Speaker 1: Alex Syke is like some constructs, some gol created by
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  Speaker 1: the deep state.
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  Speaker 2: He's pretty terminal, but he he was. He was talking
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  Speaker 2: about these men who don't approach women, and I pointed out,
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  Speaker 2: how much do men hear like, Let's let's imagine two piles.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see my hands in there. Let's imagine two piles.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like I'm doing something lude. Let's imagine two piles, right,
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  Speaker 2: and pile this pile is all the conversation that women have,
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  Speaker 2: everything that they express about men approaching them in a
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  Speaker 2: positive way. So in other words, oh, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's great to be approached by men because it makes
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  Speaker 2: me feel good. It's an opportunity to talk to someone.
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  Speaker 2: I can meet somebody interesting, you know. And then let's
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  Speaker 2: look at this pile, which is all the times that
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  Speaker 2: women express how men approaching them makes them feel. So
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  Speaker 2: everything from it's an inconvenience, he's rude, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to talk to anybody, leave me alone, to oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: every time a man approaches me, I have an existential
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  Speaker 2: like I go into a state of frozen horror and
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  Speaker 2: piss myself and shit myself a little bit because, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, a man is coming near me. And then
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  Speaker 2: I have to have three years of therapy to even
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  Speaker 2: leave my house, you know, And and and ask yourself,
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  Speaker 2: how big are these respective piles? How much do women
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  Speaker 2: say to men, do not approach us? At worst, you know,
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  Speaker 2: at best, it's an inconvenience we find annoying and feel
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  Speaker 2: and we feel contempt for you for doing so. And
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  Speaker 2: at worst, it is something that will change our lives.
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  Speaker 2: For the worst, you will send us down on a
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  Speaker 2: pathway to a personal hell because you have approached a woman.
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  Speaker 2: You have approached a woman without her permission, and she
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  Speaker 2: doesn't know what you're gonna do. You could tear off
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  Speaker 2: your human skin and become a bear and eat her.
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  Speaker 2: Like how how could she possibly know that that's not
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: gonna happen. So just don't approach women. And by the way,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: it's illegal in certain you know, certain parts of the UK,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: like and and he took that, and I said, okay,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: let's let's set aside your complaints that men are afraid
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: of of the of the possible negatives to themselves, right,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: which I think are perfectly legitimate, Like they're afraid of
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: going to jail for approaching a woman, perfectly legitimate, especially
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: in certain places in the UK and other places in
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: the West where they've basically effectively made it illegal for
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: men to approach women in public. Let's set all of that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: All the men who are worried about impacted them a
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: false accusation that ruins their life in the career just
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: by making a woman feel slightly uncomfortable. Right, Let's look
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: at the men who actually really don't want to hurt women.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: They don't want to make women feel bad. They would
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: feel bad if they made a woman feel bad. Like
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: if a woman just they approached her and she just
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: dropped and rolled and just quivered and pissed herself, they'd
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: be like, oh God, I've just destroyed her life just
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: by approaching her. You know that men don't want to
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: hurt women. So if you increase the perception that even
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: walking up to a woman is a form of trauma
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and torture that you're putting her through, you are going
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: to reduce all of the men who are willing to
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: approach women to those who don't care. Are those who
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: either think you're full of shit or those who don't care.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: So I pointed this out and he was a, oh,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that's that can't possibly be you. And when I did
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: a poll, of course it was my audience and a
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: good portion of men that's exactly what they said. They
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: don't approach women. And it's not necessarily I mean, it's
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: a huge part.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: It's not just the fear of rejection, although that is
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a thing, but it's it's it is just a not
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: just even like the genuine hostility, but there is a like,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: if you fear monger half the population about the other
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: half of the population, to the extent that they feel
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the need to call the police or some other authority
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: figure against you because they feel this unsafe or they
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: can get you fired from your job or whatever it is. Yeah,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you're going to create a chilling effect and men are
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: going to respond accordingly. And there's no amount of game
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: or frame maintaining that's going to change that, because it's
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: really not up to those men. It's not it's women
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to like wake up and be like, you know what,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is true.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's up to women to actually reduce the
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: negative effects of approaching them on men full stop. That's
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: what I mean. They need to reduce. They need to
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: go They need to go big against feminists who are
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: criminalizing men approaching women because that's happening everywhere. They need
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: to go big on reminding men that this is an
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: essential activity for our human for the human race to reproduce,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: and just suck it up. He's awkward. Okay, well you
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: just had an awkward couple of seconds interactions. Get over it,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: don't exaggerate, don't turn it into some kind of emotional crisis.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: You're never gonna recover from and call out the women
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: who do false accusations when men interact with them for
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: whatever reason, like and women have to do this, it's
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: not on men. And I don't know, Like I'm Generation X,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: so maybe maybe I'm sort of like I look at
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: this because I was no longer dating in the early
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: two thousands, right, and I look at this and I'm like,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: this is a nightmare. I remember a time when dating
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: was fun, Like people look forward to it. They'd be like, yeah,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going on a date. We're gonna go walk down
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: the you know, the river talk and it was romantic
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and exciting and you got butterflies in your stomach and
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: you did everything within your means, and there was no
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: like I mean, there may have been a set of
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: women who expected the whining and dining and stuff, but
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: there was still a good population women who just thought
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: it was exciting to have fun with a man because
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: it was a man. You know, It's like that song
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: grab him because he's a man. You know, there's still
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: had that energy that there was some romance to it.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: And that's just like, I don't know, why would you
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: why would you gauge in an activity that it's so miserable.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's happy on the woman's side,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: because it seems like they're in this negative spiral where
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: everything is about extracting resources from their date rather than
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: enjoying it anyway. That that's that's my my U com my, Uh,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I'll get off my pedestal. Let's keep going, pedal.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I want to play more of this. Yeah, this is
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: a short video, so it's it's very concise, which I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: also appreciate. See when guys talk, they don't waffle on forever,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: they just say what they gotta say.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: So, but that that was normal. I didn't really understand
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: how truly fucked up that behavior was because it's all
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: I had grown up seen. Like a fish doesn't really
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: know what water is because he's spent his entire life
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: just swimming in it. I thought, Okay, it is.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Really fucked up, and I'm gonna tell you why. I'm sorry, Brian,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: but this behavior from women in the initial stages of
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: a relationship is horrifying. I mean, the initial stages, everybody's
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: just like every you're really in the couple, you're really
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: just enjoying the excitement of a new person and getting
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: to know a new person and spending time with that person.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: The fact is that you this dating landscape takes that
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: excitement and it destroys it. And this is the most
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: exciting time generally the relationship. Everything else after that requires
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: a bit more elbow grease, right, everything else doesn't have
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: that initial flush of hormones. And even in the very
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: easiest part of the relationship, women are making it so
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: hard it's a nightmare. Like this should be the most
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: pleasant part of the relationship, and it's become a nightmare.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: So you can only ask yourself, if it starts as
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: a nightmare, what happens when it gets a bit more difficult?
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: Okay, mm hmm, all right, let's play some more of
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: this thought that shit tests and rude behavior were normal,
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: and that it was perfectly natural for women to treat
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: men badly, to say rude things to him, just to
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: test him out, to see if he's confident enough to
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: push through that resistance.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: In fact, one of the first videos that I ever
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: released on this channel back in twenty seventeen was me
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: at the beach going up to women and asking them
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: about this phenomenon of shit tests. Have you ever given
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: a man a shit test before.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Probably every time I think I give men should test.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Every day of my life.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: See, I knew that this was real. I saw how
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: rude women were when I was younger, but I never
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: stopped to ask the big questions like is it okay
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: to treat men like this? Why do women feel so
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: entitled to be so righteously rude and dismissive I was young.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just pausing it there so you can say's nothing
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: about that. The only thing I would say is that
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: it is really difficult for men to look beyond themselves
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: for the blame, like where it's like, well, I must
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: be the one not doing something right, and it's hard
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: for them to say no, actually, maybe these women are cunts.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: And maybe they're cunts because they've been taught that that's
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: like normal, and they're also it's not just like from
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: say their parents or the peers that grow up around,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But what if it's also because of other men who
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: are like, no, it's okay, it's cute that you're like feisty.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like that you're feisty, and then
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: women just like, oh, I guess this is what men like.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Then I'm just going to be like this with all
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: men now, and uh yeah, I mean, like, you know,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: men aren't looking for special favors, but just you know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: being decent is like it's a good start. But again,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: we don't encourage that, We don't expect anything from women.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: They can act however they like, and we're just supposed
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to suck it up. So Alison, are you gonna say
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: something or are you distracted by the chat? The special chat?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I'm distracted by the special chat? Sow way I think.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And he's saying, I'm pro woman, I got kids. You're
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: not pro woman, you're pro whatever you think. Your reflection
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: of women is that supports your ego. All right, let's
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: let's continue.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Oh he's just looking for attention. Yeah, women, you've been
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: here what five minutes, and you already know what we're about. Yeah,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: all right, let's keep going.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: Hung I was horny, and my mind just didn't think
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: in terms of those big questions.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Yet.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: I wasn't philosophical. I was just practical. Women are rude
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: when you try and talk to them. Okay, that seems
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: to be just a fact of reality. My only thought was, well,
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: how do I overcome that? Like, if this is a game,
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: what do I need to do to win. I was
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: very ambitious and when I disc community.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, is this really about women or is it about
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: seeing yourself in terms of all of your competencies and
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: overcoming this game that is called woman? You get what
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, Brian, Like, is that really about the woman
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: or is it about you? And like I was saying
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: to sow Way, women are just a reflection of your
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: own ego. And I don't mean that as like, uh,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I think that's something to consider, something to think about.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I don't mean this as like additional, oh, men are
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: terrible or to blame, but really are is this really
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: about women? Or is it about point scoring in a game?
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: And ultimately, like, is that respect of women that you
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: just tolerate their bullshit without recognizing their humanity? Like I'm
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: like thinking about that video we showed I think on
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Monday of that kid in the store that's just being
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: allowed to destroy stuff. I mean, that's a horrible way
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: to raise a kid. You're raising a kid to be
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: utterly dysfunctional in the world around them like that. They're
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: You're not raising them to be able to function as
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: a normal adult human being. You're raising them to be
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: something that is completely incapable of integrating into society, being loved,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: developing discipline, developing any kind of sense of self. Like
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: you're putting that kid in an empty void and allowing
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: her to scream her guts out, asking who she is. Wow,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: that's so pro woman. All right, m M all right.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Let's play some more of the video, like pick up
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: artist techniques, learning about game with detailed instructions on how
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: to pass shit tests, frame control, teasing, flirting. I thought, great, okay,
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: that's what you do. So I learned it, I applied it,
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: I got very good at it, and my dating life
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: took off. But I can see now that that's actually
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: been my blind spot, and that's the reason why I'm apologizing.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Because I couldn't see past my own experience. My focus
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: had been exclusively on how to pass shit tests. My
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: focus was not on whether or not this behavior from
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: women was actually appropriate. Now, longtime subscribers of this channel
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: know that this issue has come up lots of times before,
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: probably in four or five different videos. You guys have
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: roasted me in the comment section, which I deserved, But
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: even getting that feedback, I couldn't see it. I didn't
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: understand why men were frustrated with me, like, I.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Can I make another observation?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: He's like, go ahead, go ahead.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: You didn't understand it because you take your identity from
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: jumping through those hoops that women set up. That's how
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: you value yourself. That's how you see your self worth.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: You know, every hoop that a woman jumps up is
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: like ten points, and and Alex jumps through that poop
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: and gets another ten points appended to a sense of value,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: you know, to his his score, you know. And that's uh,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And that's how you saw yourself. And you had trouble
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: understanding a different point of view, which is often what's
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: happening in the special chat you have. You have trouble
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: with the idea that women aren't an obstacle that you
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: score points from overcoming, and that women are actually beings
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: who were themselves require points to feel like they have worth.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I know that's really simplified, but you know, you know
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: that maybe men should stop seeing women as an opportunity
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: to score self worth points and start realizing, Hey, women
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: themselves need opportunities to score self worth points, and the
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: way that you give them is by saying stop doing that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Your behavior has to change. You have to become a
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: better person. You have to gain skills, you have to
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: gain self mastery. This is inappropriate behavior. Stop tantruming, stop
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: breaking things, Stop doing shit tests if you want to
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: have a reasonable outcome. And furthermore, you think those girls,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: like that's two thousand and seven, it's like nine years later.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: You think those those women are still going to get
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: away with their shit tests when they're in their fifties.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: You know what happens, You know, the wall is up
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: into a point. Women get away with their shitty behavior,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and then they reach a point where they no longer
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: get the freebies that you know, men all see themselves
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: in terms of jumping through their hoops as some kind
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: of value that goes away, and now they're left with
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: all of those habits of the habits of then the expectations,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: and nobody's nobody's pampering them anymore. Right, that's what you
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: guys are setting women up for. That's not love. That's
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: not love. It's not it is not even like. It
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: is selfishness, right, sow Way is a selfish, selfish man, selfish,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: self involved, inwardly focused. The men who set boundaries with women,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: who establish their expectations of how women are supposed to
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: behave who expect women to act like adults, who give
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: women reasonable consequences for their shitty behavior. Those men love women, well,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: they love specific women, and that's the only kind of
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: love that matters, all right, mm hmm.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I will say, though, big ups to him for, you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: having the integrity to admit this. This is very rare, like,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, not just in this space, but like in general,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the ability for people to say, you know what, I
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: was wrong. I mean, it's like why everything is so
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: shit right now mostly is because people have so much
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: pride that they don't have the will to say, yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I think I think I backed the wrong horse on X.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: You know, so anyway, let's continue.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Was sincerely trying to help. I was explaining the psychology
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: of why women are rude to men, the evolutionary basis,
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: what purpose they're serving, what they're looking for in men,
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: And then I was giving instructions on how to successfully
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: move past that rudeness. But then there'd be a bunch
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: of guys.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, he may have overly rationalized,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, he may have overly rationalized.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: That's why he was like looking at Evo psych and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: all this other shit, and he thought that he could
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: treat the relationship between men and women and the dynamics
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: as some kind of game that he could literally min
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: max and number crunch on and then get the best
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: results and optimize. And it's the you can't account for
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: like the nature of women to that degree, like you
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: have to there has to be other things take it
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: into account. And I think that he tried to essentially
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: just you know, make the perfect build for picking up women,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and maybe he had some success with it, but it's
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: not absolute. That's just not the way things work. So anyway,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that let's play more of
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the video.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Guys in the comments saying why should I have to
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: put up with this in the first place? Why is
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: it okay for women to be rude to me? But
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: I just kept focusing on the practical and sadly, all
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: of my explanations for female behavior it just sounded like
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: justifications excuses for women's disrespect, all of my advice on
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: how to overcome this. It had the effect of making
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: men feel like I was just ignoring how outright unpleasant
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: this is to deal with, placing the responsibility on men
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: once again, to do the work. Doesn't matter how rude
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: women are, how ridiculous their standards, how entitled their personalities. Men,
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: it's on you to find a way to.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: They're just a bass fight, yep, right, Yeah, it's on
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: you to find a way instead of just saying Nope,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: this isn't worth it. And I think, I honestly, I
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: think that maybe some of the because I'm seeing this
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: a bit more, the pickup artists and the red pill
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: guys being like sort of turning around on this whole
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: idea that a man must judge his self war by women.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: And I know sometimes they give lip service to not
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: doing that, but it doesn't seem to be very deep.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: But anyway, the the I think part of the reason
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: why they're doing this is because there is this it
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: seems to be a sea change. Men are just not
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: into it anymore. You know, they're just, uh are they are?
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: They've just done a rational, pragmatic analysis of what they
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: get and what they have to give, and they're like, eh,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: you know, if I if I have to play if
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: if if, what I'm going to be doing is the
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: equivalent of playing dark Souls for dating? Why don't I
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: just play Dark Souls darksels.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: That walk in the park. It's a lot easier, So
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I would just do that. But I mean, because like
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: in Dark Souls, when you die, you can try to
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: get your souls back, you can try again.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: So but.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, I mean, I think this guy speaking facts,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad that he's saying it. It needed to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: be said. I'm glad that he's not making excuses for women.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: That's what has to stop.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, not making excuses. And then let's let's
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: start blaming them a bit. Let's do it.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just hold them a little accountable. All right,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Let's let's keep a little just a little bit.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Just a little bit, a little bit, suck it up
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: to figure it out.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Guys, can you ask us out in person? No more dms,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: none of that. Girls love to get asked out in person.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: It doesn't happen anymore.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Please come up to us.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: We're nice.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: The worst we're gonna say is no.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: No.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of world problems will be solved if
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: men just like cease to exist.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I know that some of my past videos on this
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: topic have really pissed off some guys. All I can
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: say is that I was sincere and I'm sorry I
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: did not see it. That's how it is with bias
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: and with blind spots. You don't know what you don't know.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: And this is this is why, this is why the
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: audience not the special check audience. You guys are special,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: but our actual audience is unique. You guys saw this.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: You saw and you can see the world in terms
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: of the consequences of women's actions. You can actually recognize
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: women as moral agents who should do better and be better.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: This is something that the average man struggles with in
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: my opinion. I mean, I think it's becoming less and
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: less as more content is pointing this stuff.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Out, and the kind of men kind of buy into
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the bullshit. The same narrative though, that men have all
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: this power and that they if they're not getting you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: women or numbers or dates or sex or whatever, it's
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: their fault. There's something you're not doing right, and and
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: any man who is disinterested like a MiG tau, those
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: guys should be shamed and blamed because you know, their cowards,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: their in cells and not stepping up whatever it is.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: But that's but the reality is is exactly that video
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: that he just played where women are saying, well, men,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: you should be able to approach us, while simultaneously believing
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: that men are the reason for all of the suffering
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: in the world and throughout history. And they don't actually
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: even have a desire or impulse to even question that
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: because women can have like two completely contradictory ideas in
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: their head at the same time and they don't think
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with it. And one of the reason
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: is because nobody told them to like stop being a
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: moron and a child and figure it out. No, I'm serious, Like,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: we can't Like I just said that, and I guarantee
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: you people in the Special Chatter be like, you can't
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: say that about women. That's exactly the problem, Guys like
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I can't say anything about women because people like you
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: are always caping for them. Well, you're actually not doing
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: them favors. You're actually making their lives harder because they
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: ever find out the consequences of their bullshit actions until
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: it's so severe that there's no turning back from it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to do is tell them the
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: truth so that they don't suffer or put other people
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: through unnecessary suffering. I mean, look, at like, there was
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: just this video I saw, let me see the video,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: but there was a woman who was on a OnlyFans thought, right,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: and she bought into this thing, I don't know what
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: it is, some sex positive empowerment thing, and she like
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: had sex with one hundred guys in like twenty four hours,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: and she caught like three different ScDs And then she
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: was being interviewed for you know, like a documentary and
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: she's crying about how like awful it is and that
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: like she wishes that like this didn't happen. Of course
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: they're all everybody spinning it like, well, those one hundred men,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: those guys are obviously the bad guys in this story.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: And it's like, what, no, she did that to herself, Yeah,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: did that to herself for money. This is what I'm saying, Guys, Like,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: women create the opportunities to make these terrible mistakes. And
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: when you guys just come in and say, well, this
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: obviously the men's fault, you're just setting them up for
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: more failure the women. That is so like, at some
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: point we have to talk to women like they're adults,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Why why can't.
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: You do that?
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: And if they hadn't done it would that be their
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: failure too.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they didn't step up and be like number
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: ninety eight, like would that be like again, like I
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: wouldn't want anything to do with that. But thirsty dudes exist,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: so why do we like what, I'm not gonna excuse that.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, whores exist too, so it's
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: like what we want to, like try to I don't know,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: like just treat people like adults and I include women
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: in that. That's not sexist.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, honestly, what the hell did she think was
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: gonna happen? She's a moron and possibly it'll solve its
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: depending on the type of STDs that she got, she
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: may have destroyed her fertility. Yeah, well Darwin Award time. Sorry,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, we.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Got like chlamydia and gonnrhea and something else. And I
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: was like, you're surprised and none of it. None of
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: them wear a condo. What's wrong with you?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Her ovaries are probably rotting like comquats.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm just saying, like the adults. Sorry,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: this is just.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Freaking hilarious to me. Am. I supposed to feel bad
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: for her, and how could anybody be like, oh, the
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: man are to blame.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: No, she is.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: She is to blame. But it's a self correcting thing
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: as long as people are like, no, you fucked around
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: and you found out. Lady, you fucked around and you
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: found out. Next time, don't take it advice from idiots.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Oh good lord. Anyway, all right, I got with any luck,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: she won't be breeding. So there you go.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Well, probably not now. I mean, she's probably tortured by
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: what she did. But it has to start with This
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: is why we have confession. It starts with you saying
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I did this, not they did this to me. I
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: did this. That's where it starts. That's the only way
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you're gonna change anyway. I got a super chat from
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Albert Nata retro gives us two dollars. Canadian says, once
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: a p ua, always a piece of garbage. Then I
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: got a super chow from Zarangs and he says, on
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the subject of blind spots, thank you, Brian for bringing
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: it up, because I was going to the amount of
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: people trying to put her in the victim category pisses
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: me off and alarms me at the same time. I
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: don't think they realize what they're saying men and women,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: both about women and their position in society. I feel
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: like they're the real degenerates. Yeah, I mean yeah, like
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: we want people, I think people should want to behave
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: in a virtuous way, but we have to treat men
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: and women somewhat the same. I mean, I'm going to
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: treat them the same if I can. But we already
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: don't have a problem generally holding men accountable for bad behavior,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: which is fine, but we should also be able to
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: hold women accountable for bad behavior and stop blaming these
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: abstract systemic things like patriarchy, because that's how these women
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: get out of like looking inside themselves and being like,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: what do I gotta do to be a better person?
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: How do I change? As long as you have something
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: to blame that's not you, you're just going to keep
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: making mistakes.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you pair that with giving women like
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: women are the ones who have the greatest control over
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: their own lives, So we give them complete control over
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: their own lives and absolutely no feedback onto how to
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: manage that power over their own lives. Like, you know,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: if anything bad happens, you just blame patriarchy and keep going.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: And what happens, women are miserable because they get into
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: these situations, and they have no clue how to get
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: out of them because nobody has given them feedback. And
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: he's given them an instruction manual to freedom, like and
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: it's and it's and as far as I know, the
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Bible doesn't say, but these commandments don't apply to women,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: like No, we are supposed to be held to the similars,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: the same ethical standards, right, the same ethical standards, the
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: same expectation of autonomy. I'm not, I'm not. I don't
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: think the Bible says no. Women could do whatever the
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: hell they want and men are to blame. So don't
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: look to it for that. All right, let's keep going.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: All right, let's play the video some more.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: I tell you now that I can see it. I
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: see it very clearly. This dating market is at its core,
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: the whole thing is fucked. We have allowed our culture
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: to degenerate to the point where women feel like it
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: is okay to treat men with disrespect, to be rude,
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: to be insulting a kind polite man sit in a way.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Though I don't think he's driving the point home enough.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: It's not just rudeness. I think men can take that.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I think that there's like a serious, like that women
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: are expected to treat men as enemies in a war,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: and that is obviously like, it's actually that women have
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: been conditioned against their own nature, like they're conditioned to
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: treat men as the enemy and babies as essentially inconveniences
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: that need to be destroyed. That that's and I don't
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: think that's what women like really want in their heart
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: or hearts, but that's what they've been conditioned to think.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't just play out in rudeness. Okay, although
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I get that that's sort of like his Maybe that's
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: because he is like a relationship coach, that's his particular focus.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: But it certainly doesn't end with just a woman being
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: rude because men don't care about mean words on the internet.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: It's women crying about cat turd, right, So yeah, anyway,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: cat turd is based though. All right, let's play some more.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: There's hello to you. He's being friendly. It's fine to
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: just ignore him or just be bitchy for the entire conversation.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: No matters, no etiquette, no respect, no affirming of his
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: right to dignity. That's fucked up. It shouldn't be this way,
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: and it doesn't have to be yes, you can looks
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: max like crazy. You can learn game, you can become
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: the perfect seduction guy who knows every little trick, perfect
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: frame control, the ability to successfully navigate through all her blockades,
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: and then maybe you might be lucky enough to find
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: your way into a conversation where she is being friendly
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: to you. But that is a ridiculous standard to hold
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: men to.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Why yep, did you what, Alison? Are you still fighting
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: with people on the Yeah?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: A little bit. No, No, I'm actually just looking at
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the main chat, the chat of the people with an
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: IQ above like two digit Yeah, but the okay, you know,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I agree, and I also agree with what you're saying.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: It's not just rudeness. It's a lot of other stuff
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: that needs to be curtailed. It's all of the powers
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: in the family courts. It's all of the ability to
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: engage in abuse and sexual violence against men with no
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: reprisal at all, not even social censure. Look at like,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: what's that woman, Amy, Amy Schumer? Oh god, oh god, disgusting?
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I want who build her career on on being
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: a salute, although I don't think she's getting any work
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: these days, So good luck, Amy Schumer. Wherever you are
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: is hiring.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: She's also a grapist as far as I can tell.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: So there's that problem. And then there's all of the
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: false accusations, and even the accusations that power that women
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have, even if they're not false, the ability to
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: to in the UK get a man jailed for approaching
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: them all right, like this is this is all stuff
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: that needs to go. It needs to go. And also
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: we should start seriously shaming women who are afraid of men.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: I said it, I said it. There we go, let's go.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: All right, let's uh yeah, let's keep going with this.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: Why isn't being kind enough? Why isn't being friendly and
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: respectful enough? I can imagine an alternative timeline where boys
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: and girls were all raised in healthy families, we live
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: in close communities, and everybody has positive self esteem. Where
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: once you become a man, if you approach a woman
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: at an event, have a conversation with her, maybe ask
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: her to dance, even if it does not work out
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: between the two of you, there is no attraction. At
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: all times, the woman is kind and friendly to you.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: She does not start off from a baseline hatred of men,
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: distrust suspicion. She takes no.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Wow, what a world that might be? Like, Yeah, what
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: else in a world like that? I think I know?
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: And again I think he's he might know more than
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: he lets on because his videos he only gives you
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: like a shorter version of it and then you have
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: to go to his Patreon to watch the full length version.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: But when you start the sentence with if only we
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: like grew up in like an alternate universe where we
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: grow up in healthy families that were loving and community oriented, Yeah,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what's missing. Like, that's one of the
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: things that's definitely missing. So and I think that that's
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: one of the things that might be the case, is
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: that women with daddy issues are probably more suspicious and
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: distrustful of men, and they're set up to be that
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: way because their fathers are absent, and that that sort
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: of like paints or colors their impression of men in general,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: and they make poor choices when it comes to men.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: They don't vet them, so they end up with men
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: who are bad for them, and then they think that
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: that's just what men are like. And that's me being
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: very charitable to those women. But the truth is women
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: do pick those men and their mothers who kept their
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: fathers out of their life also chose those men as well.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: So this isn't just about blaming men, because the women
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: are the ones that decide who they reproduce with, who
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: they lay down with, and we can't treat women like children.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: They make decisions. So ladies have to be better about
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: vetting guys and then when they do that, this is
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: another thing. What women ask for in men is what
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: they get because men are looking to figure out what
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: women want. So if women say they want, you know,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: like bad guys that are dangerous and edgy and maybe
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit violent, like you saw that you know
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: that assassin Allison that killed the CEO, that there were
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: women all over the internet thirsting after him or like
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: those Yeah, of course there were, right, I mean, yeah,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the guy was in shape and everything, but like he
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: he murdered somebody, you know. So but like that's what
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, if women say this is the kind
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: of man I want, then men are going to respond
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: to that, and they're gonna say, well, that's the kind
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: of man I'm gonna become. And of course you know
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So yeah, I know.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to add to that, there's actual studies
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: that show that in certain regions of the US, if
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: a man kills another man, his romantic prospects improve. So, yes, women,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: the hibistrophilia is a problem. Is that how you say it?
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ok, these are some rarefied words, but yeah, so
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I totally agree. And yes, men will become what women
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: ask of them, because that's how uh mate selection works
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: with mammals. But yeah, like, there's nothing I disagree with
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: except that I would say that there's also a huge
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: component of a particular narrative that we've fallen in love
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: with in our society that men oppress women, which, if
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: you think about it, frames manhood as those men who
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: are the most sociopathic are the most masculine, which you know,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: that seems to be like an unfortunate effect feminist bullshit.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: So all right, all right, let me see, I feel
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: like there was a super chat or something that I missed. No,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I guess not. Okay, let's continue.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: Pleasure in projecting men in this alternative timeline. All women
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: are polight, kind, respectful, friendly women value mes, men value women.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: Men do not view women just as a means to
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: have sex hookup. Culture is not a thing. Dating is
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: much more straightforward because the purpose is clear. The goal
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: is for everybody to partner up. Dating is not for
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: people to get ego boosts. It's not for distracting people
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: from their boredom. Dating is not used for free dinners
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: or to masturbate using another person's body. In this timeline,
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: dating is simple, uncomplicated. Wholesome men don't need to put
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: on an act. They can be themselves. They can be
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: nice to women and feel confident that women are not
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: going to interpret that niceness as weakness men.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: One thing that I think would help is if women
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: realize that when a man approaches you, that does not
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: mean he's going to have sex with you like that.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: In my and maybe this is just me, but the
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: way that I view male attention is that they have
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: an interest and maybe in an attraction, that doesn't mean
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: that they want to have sex with me. There's a
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: lot of steps that go in between being approached to
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: in the bedroom. You see what I'm saying, And there's
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of things like there's you can do things
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: in terms of your behavior to turn them off, your smell,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: you know, and.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: There's so it's a pheromones. Yeah, I mean is that
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I think the birth control pill really messed things up too.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Because It's what I'm.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Trying to get at is I think it would really
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: help if women didn't have the default setting that every
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: man wants to have sex with them, even and in
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: particular the ones that come near them. I think that
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: the better default setting is that they have an interest
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: that may lead to sex or it may not, if
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying. And I think that that
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: actually because I've never been the kind of person that
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: was like arrogant enough to think that everybody who expressed
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: any kind of interest in me was interested in having
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: sex with me, you know, like a It just seemed
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: like an incredibly arrogant position to take, you know. But
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: and I find that when I have I personally have
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: a lot less resentment towards men in general than a
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: lot of women who do come from that default setting
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: of every man wants to have sex with me, and
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: obviously if a man approaches me, he wants to grape me. Okay,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: all right, let's keep going.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: All right. I got a super chat from Albernida Retro,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: who gave us two dollars Canadian again and said Amy,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: and the guy from Townsend University, Yes, and he gives
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: us another super chat for five dollars Canadian and says
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Jeremy Meeks was the convicted women flipped over. He got
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: a modeling contract and might be acting as well.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: All right, let yes, so so sou Way is actually
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: participating in a in a much more productive way and says, well,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: you can tell the difference between a man who has
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: a sexual interest, well even he if he initially does
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: have a sexual interest, I would not assume that that
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: is necessarily going to result in sex, yeah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Or anything dangerous for that matter. What's the context? Like
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: if you go to, like, I don't know, a party
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: in Florida and you're you're a woman at a party
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: in Florida. Everyone's drinking, everyone's in the in the hot tub.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't have any interest in hooking up with
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: anybody at the time, men are going to approach you,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: and a lot of them are probably gonna want to
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: sleep with you. You can still say no, like no
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: one but you, but you're still in that position, Like
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: you go to a slutty Halloween party and you're wearing
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: your cat costume, you know, which is obviously a slutty
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: cat costume. And you're a woman and a man approaches
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: you dressed as Zorro or something, he's probably trying to
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: bang you. That that's okay, that's the society we have
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: thanks to, you know, the sexual revolution of the nineteen sixties.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that you're doomed to participate. And
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: it doesn't make that guy a bad person because he's
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: participating in it. You went to the party and you
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: got drunk there, or you're planning to.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: But also it is situational. If a man comes up
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: to you in a in a in like a Starbucks
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: and says hi, I mean a lot of women would
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: immediately go to this man wants to have sex with me.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Where my attitude was.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: You could be in line at a DMV.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this man has has maybe has a sexual
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: interest in me. But that doesn't mean that that even
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: he would eventually go to that point if it makes sense,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: like I'm I recognize that the man is also you know,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: sort of like in a position of choosing, if that
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: makes sense, you know, And as as a consequence of that,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: I am not one of the very incredibly actually surprisingly
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: large minority of millennial women that have raped men with weapons.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess they just assumed as soon as he
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: approached them that that it was a consent all the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: way down, you know what I mean. But but like
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: it's it's it just seems to me very arrogant to
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: take away someone's autonomy. That's what it strikes me as.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: So if a guy approaches you in Starbucks, you're actually
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: taking away an aspect of his personhood and his autonomy
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: to assume the entirety of his motives, the fact that
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: the motives won't change, and that he he wants exactly
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: what you think he wants, you know what I mean.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: It's like, no, you're still dealing with with an entity
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: that has a whole bunch of different factors that they're juggling,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: you know. And one conclusion may be sex, and a
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: hundred other conclusions may be friendship. I want conclusions, maybe
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: directions to the nearest gas station. Another conclusion could be
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: a romantic relationship. Another conclusion could be marriage. You know,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: there's there's a whole spread of probabilities, and to reduce
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: it down to one is contemptuous of men. To reduce
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: it down to well, hit it and quit it contemptuous
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: of men. To reduce it down to grape is basically
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: demonizing men. See what I'm saying. Okay, I know I
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: can be really confusing.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: That's all right.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: Men can relax knowing that women in this timeline do
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: not take pleasure in humiliating men.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: I know there's a saying that that it's a numbers game,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: but there's also a saying that says, stay in your lane.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 8: And I just feel like some of the creatures that
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 8: come up to me with the confidence they have, I mean,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: and then really at the gas station and said, you
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 8: caught my eye?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: How haven't we closing?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: Keeping keeping steel tight shut?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 8: Actually because I'm not. I'm here to thought my guests.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: Dating should not be like this. It just shouldn't. How
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: things are right now, How men are treated by women,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: it's fucked up. There are a bunch of guys out
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: there who are struggling, and it's not their fault. The
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: game was. I'm pretty sure they rigged.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: The Can I just point something out. I'm pretty sure
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: her skin isn't actually the consistency of like a silicone.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, she's she's quite a few filters. That's like, that's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: like five or six filters deep in there. Yeah, there's
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of plug ins and expansions there.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Sex doll like. But the other thing is that it's
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: so judgmental. Oh, these creatures come up to me. Really, Okay,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: so what are all men?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Creatures? Yeah, but she's.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 9: Basically saying that they're ugly, so she is ever, Well,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 9: there are men that are that meant, there are men
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 9: that she wants to have approached them, and then there's
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: normal men, like they're basically like the men that she
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 9: wants to be able to allow to approach her, which
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: is one percent of men, and then there's the creeps,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 9: which is all the other men.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: So and those guys, I mean, we don't even know
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: who this guy was, and we'll never know, but we
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: all what we do know is that he wasn't good
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: enough to speak to her.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Okay, I'm actually looking at a comment in
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: the discord now, I'm not looking at the special chat No,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: but yes, it's like, Okay, this is what I was saying.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: To Alex's sake, how much of this messaging to men,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: get don't approach us your creatures, You're disgusting. We're gonna
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: treat you with contempt, and it's like, we're gonna to
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: see you in terms of we're gonna reduce you down
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: to what we think is your most base impulses. And
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm trying to get at. I resist doing that.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Like when if somebody, when a guy would theoretically approach me,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: which you know I'm talking about years ago, right, I
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: wouldn't look at him like, oh, he's approaching me for
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: this incredibly low based thing. I'd just be like, Okay, well,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: let's see what's gonna happen. Options are open, so it's
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: a whole spread, you know, like, and I just can't
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: see reducing men down in such a crass way. And
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: then the other thing is that if this woman gets
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: treated in a crass way by men, is it not
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: sort of deserved? Like you're already dehumanizing these men. And
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: you know, I let's use the let's use the class
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: the thing that women seem to all talk about manifesting.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: If when a man approaches you, you see him in
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: the crassest, basis most sexualized term, what are you manifesting?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you get what you put out? I guess, yes,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: all right, let's play some more.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: I could not see it because when it came to
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: the topic of shit tests and women being rude to men,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: I was too busy focused on how to overcome that,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: thinking of practical strategies to beat the game, and I
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: forgot to stop and take notice of just how fucked
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: up the game is that we're all playing.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Toxic or boring releaseship toxic, toxic.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, toxic. It just makes it more fun.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 7: It just makes it more fun.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: It's more fun.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: In this culture, we have women consciously choosing to be
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: with bad men, which of course has the predictable consequence
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: after you were treated badly of turning you bitter. Then
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: when a regular nice man approaches them, from that bitterness,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: they feel entitled to be rude and suspicious. That situation
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: is fucking ridiculous, And yes, you're.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Putting it on the man. Maybe the woman is being
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: an asshole because she's trying to get what she wants
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: out of the next man.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Like well, I mean, Allison, the bad men do exist,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: like exist, But women reward those men. Yes, of course, yes,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: of course, I'm not saying they're made bad by those men.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I'm saying that bad men exist, and if women choose
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: the bad men, and then those bad men color the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: women's opinions of all men. That's a problem, but it
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: kind of starts with her because she ultimately is the
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: one that's not vetting people. I mean, I don't want
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: to bring it up, but like, for example, we know
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: we like Lauren Southern is a terrible judge of character
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: because of her involvement with Destiny. I'm just saying that's like,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: I don't see how anyone could make that mistake other
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: than a woman like Laurence Southern, Like, how do you
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: do that? Yes, Destiny?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: That was have I missed some gospels?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: This happened like a while ago.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: But no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: you can't just you can't just like put that gossip out,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: just dangle it elaborate she was involved with Destiny.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think it was because she was like I
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: get a clout thing. I guess I don't know, but yeah, yes,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Destiny is atrocious, Yes, absolutely. And then and and you'll
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: notice that well you know what, I feel like, that's
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: a whole other conversation that we shouldn't have. But I'm
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: sorry for dropping that in there. I thought you guys
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: knew that. Yeah, it came out that Laurence Southern was
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: was having a fling with Destiny while by the way,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: she was married to somebody else and like the Fed
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: that she married and there was a child involved.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Fed.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I thought, you no, no, no, no, that was a
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: different guy. But but if you look at like her her,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: that's like as bad or she doesn't have a great
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have a great track record with men. And
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because, like you know, but
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like even people that we would have
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: thought were based women, they they lose the plot.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: And I tell you you know, I think the only
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: truly based women that seem to be consistently so are
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: are men's issues advocates. And I'm not even saying all
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: of them are. But you really have to have contended
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: with this idea of taking responsibility as a man, I'm sorry,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: as a man, as a woman, stopping blaming men for
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: everything and allowing yourself to take some blame as a woman.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: You have to have done that emotional work to really
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: not end up in these weird pretzels. Like I was thinking, like, so, okay,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: let me get this straight. Lauren Southern David married a
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: FED who told her he was a fed and she
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: found him exciting because of all his fetti powers. And
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: then when she got divorced, she was like, wow, he
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: was a fed. That's why I had to divorce him.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: But that's why you married him anyway, And then she
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: was actually cheating with him, cheating on him with Destiny.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, according to some. I mean, like I also heard
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: that she had been like jumping on the cock carousel
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: all over the right the on YouTube, like all of
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: the various people. I remember her making a video where
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: she tried to throw some mra under the bus like
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: that was working on the Red Pill documentary a while ago.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: And also Paul Joseph Watson, according to her, made a
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: pass at her. But like Paul Joseph Watson has his
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: own kids. And I don't know, I mean, all I
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: know is is that Laura Southern has a bad track record.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: That's what That's all I'm saying. Than MIKHAILA.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Peterson, Oh yeah right, yeah, having the being having the
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: child of a Russian like Russian wizard of some kind
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: like resputant.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 9: Yeahs Anti Christ baby, I'm sorry those It's amazing.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: What what what happens to two people when they're when
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: they get their egos stroked enough, like they just like
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: the cloud just becomes an addiction. You know.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: I thank god that that's never happened to us. I'm
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: just okay, okay, this is just this is venal, Okay.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: All right, yeah, yeah, this is bass. All right.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: So anyway, I put the blame on women. Ladies, nobody
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: is forcing you to date toxic men. Your bitter attitude
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: is your own fault. Now, you might say, well that's unfair.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Well there you go. So he doesn't he doesn't actually
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: really put the blame on men. He does make it
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: clear that he is saying. Now, I think that there
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: you could make the argument that there's like we're dealing
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: with multi generational trauma that goes back like like if
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: a woman is growing up in this society, like a
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: zoomer woman is looking and maybe she doesn't know her dad,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: or she doesn't have maybe her parents are divorced and
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: she doesn't see her dad ever or very rarely or
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. Or maybe the dad just isn't a
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: good man because her mom also made bad choices. Whatever.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: This can be generations down without like a good man
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: to model behavior for women to look for in men
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: and for men to emulate in themselves and all. So
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: not having a good model mother because there are people
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: with mother issues boys and girls as well, that model
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: motherhood and femininity in a way that women want to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: copy and men want to seek out, then you're going
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: to have a couple generations down because remember, dating is
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: a recent phenomena in human history. It's only like, what
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: like one hundred years old or something, and considering how
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: long we've been around, so it's a new thing. Normally,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: our parents were very involved with who we you know,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: we're friends with, and who we associated with and who
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: we met and who we knew. But that's changed, especially
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: now that we have the Internet and people are meeting
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: people from anywhere in the world, so it's completely changed
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: the dynamics of getting to know people. But we don't.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: We've lost the model, the ideal model, and we've also
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: abandoned the idea that there is an ideal model. Thanks postmodernism.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Just to bring up that little thing that adds used
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: to tell us all the time, we've lost what it
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: meant to have a model because we think everything is
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: subjective anyway, we at least have.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: A standard if we can't have a model.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but a standard requires objectivity still, so yes, we
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: could have a standard. What I'm saying is is that
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: we've abandoned all of that. So when women say I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: want toxic relationships, we're not allowed to say that's stupid,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: and you're a moron for saying that. We have to Basically, well,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: it's your opinion. I guess like everybody feels the same.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: But the thing is, the truth always comes out anyway.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: So if you have a woman who wants to get
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: involved with like criminals and drug dealers and pimps and
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: you know, dangerous men, and you have another woman that's
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: choosing to go out with righteous men or whatever, and
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: then you track that over ten years and guess what
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: their lives are probably going to be in different places.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Because even though you may have had your preferences, it
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't change potential outcomes for set preferences.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: No, no, it doesn't. And sure women can have their
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: preferences to date. Okay, you can go ahead and date
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Wade Wilson, but let's not make it a crime for
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: having him kill you. Yeah, I know he will still
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: be yeah, yeah, but what like, seriously, at what point
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: do we have to underwrite women's terrible choices, knowing that
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: they make terrible choices out of some fucked up uh
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: urge towards self destruction that men also have. But we
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: generally if men, if men go date a serial killer
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: of women or sorry, I'm when like, we usually are like,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: you know, you probably have earned it if you end
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: up dead, like, uh, you you were, you were contributing
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: factor in that, so maybe take responsibility for it. But
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: we don't do that with women. Somehow we're like, you know,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Wade Wilson, through some sort of weird legal chicanery gets free,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: a woman starts dating him, ends up dead, and we'll
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, who could ever have predicted
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: such a horrible thing? How could she have known? She
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: can't be held responsible? He just was. How could she
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: possibly know that he would because we don't want to
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: admit that she's responsible, like she made a choice that
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: is we consider to be honesthetically pleasing. Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a super chat though from Albertnada retro
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: for two dollars Canadian and he says urn and the
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: d man, Well, i'd sure I'd be a sure thing. Sorry,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: but I doubt it. You're not clout. You don't have
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: enough clout, Albert. That's that's what I think it comes
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: down to.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, let us you know, you validated
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: our existence. You probably wouldn't be able to validate.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: No, you have to have and if you have enough clout,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what kind of person you are, all right,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: But anyway, let's play more than it.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: What about the toxic man? What about his responsibility? If
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: he didn't trade her her badly, then none of this
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: would be a problem. No, you still don't get it.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: If he didn't treat her badly, then she wouldn't be interested.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: These women are specifically attracted to toxic men. That's the
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: point I know for my own life. During my teenage years,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: I was my authentic, nice guy self, and I had
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: moderate success. But when I learned game and I started
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: teasing women, not texting back, seeing multiple girls at the
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: same time, leaning into my cockiness. Guess what When I
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: did that, my options exploded. My guess is that for
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: all of the genuine bad boys out there, there's just
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: as many men who would have been nice guys if
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: they had been sexually rewarded for doing so. But they
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: listened to women's actions, not their words.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: But honestly, I don't think you should call those guys out.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: If this is a if, Okay, let me put it
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: this way. If this is I read an actually self
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: aware comment at once from a woman who said who
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: was pushing back against anti pickup artist sentiment, and what
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: she said was, I'd rather the pick up artists teach
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: men who are decent how to be attract superficially attractive
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: to me so that I have like more options, or
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: I can actually have a man, I can actually be
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: aware of a man who would be a decent partner.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Then then have these men dot do it. So the
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: issue is that if becoming this makes you more superficially
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: attractive in the social sphere, well, first of all, don't
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: do anything against your actual morals or your ethics or
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: who you are. But if you learn social confidence and
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: that makes you more attractive, I think that's fine. One
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: of the biggest problems that what I never had as
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: much of a problem with the pickup artistry. It was
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: all the condemning of men trying to learn the social
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: skills necessary to attract women and then being condemned by
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: feminists and media and everyone for it. So there was
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: a standard they were trying to uphold or get up to,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: and then they were hit with all kinds of false
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: accusations just because nobody wanted to admit that women are
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: attracted to these kinds of guys. You see what I'm saying.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: They didn't want to challenge the what they They didn't
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: want to see women in an unesthetic light, in a
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: light that they disapproaredly, you know. And it's like, okay, fine,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: if this is the reality, right, if this is genuinely
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: what women are attracted to. Okay, I'm not gonna say
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: that women have to change their attractions anymore than I'm
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: gonna say that men have to change their attractions to
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: fat women. But let's not shame men for developing the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: skills to elicit this more superficial attraction. In fact, that
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: should have been encouraged. It should have been encouraged for
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: guys who are normal and decent to I don't use
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: use pickup artistry to develop those skills that they needed
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: to become attractive to women, right like that should have
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: been promoted and encouraged. Instead, it was shamed, shamed into
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: freaking destruction, and then what came back was the red pill,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: which is a lot harder edge. You notice, and you
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: notice that everything gets a harder edge, Everything gets harder
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: and meaner and less.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Art to get more of the behavior that you incentivize.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: So like, this is why I don't like going after
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: the manisphere of red pill guys, because they're just responding
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: to women and so like you can't blame them for
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: using like creating tools to help them.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at a point, like, at some point they need
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: to also judge women.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: You know they do.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: I think they do, so.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: I think they're heading down the same path that Alexander is.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: So, but what I want to say is that it's
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: fine to want to become more attractive to the opposite sex, right,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: And it's probably fine if they develop a way of
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: making men who are maybe more conscientious. I think that
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: what it is is that conscientious men tend to want
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: to figure out what the rules are and abide by them,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: which is absolutely necessary for a society that works, Like
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: you can get rid of all of the assholes you
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: can get you can get rid of every single Wade Wilson,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: you can get rid of every single uh dark triad
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: dipshit from society. Just just just flick them like a
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: fucking human booger, all of them out of society, and
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: we would have a completely functional system, will probably function better.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Just wi, I bet Wade Wilson was a feminist? I
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: bet I bet I bet he has I wouldn't, I wouldn't,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Alexander was his name, Oh, don't say his name, Okay,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: I won't say it.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: Wilson, the Russian Wade Wilson. But okay, Like you could
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: get rid of all of these men, and we would
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: have an absolutely wonderful society, will probably improve by leaps
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: and bounds. And where was I going with this? Like? God,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: but you cannot get rid of conscientious men. And you
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: can't even you cannot get rid of conscientious men, because
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: those are the men who will actually defend their their
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: their communities, their their their villages, their towns, their families,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: while the Wade Wilson's are running their their their ass off,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: pissing themselves away from the enemy. Like this is this?
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: You can't have these deceitful con artist, cowards, dark triad men.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: They're useless flick am ount of society. We'd be better off,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: so you I want the conscientious men to be more attractive.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: And when I looked up the pickup artists, that's what
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: I saw. They were like, Okay, you're a conscientious guy.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: You're somebody who's probably a pillar of your community. Even
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: if people don't recognize it, you're probably doing good work.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: You're probably making sure all of the standards are met.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to take you and I'm going
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: to make you attractive to women, and we're going to
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: work on the social skills necessary.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: To do that.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: They were doing, they were doing us all. They were
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: doing God's work, and then the feminist nation attacked.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: Yep, all right, let's play more of the video, and
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: you can hardly blame them. Why should any man be
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: single and lonely martyrs to the nice guy Cause men
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: are always going to act the way that women find
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: sexually desirable toxic men, bad boys. Women do not complain
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: about them. They are your own creation. For every woman
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: out there who is rude to nice men while sexually
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: rewarding bad boy jerks, this is your fault.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: You.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: You need to fix this.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say that just something I meant to add.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: That is a saying I heard that I bring up
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: and it's it's not something that is an art, it's
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: just an is Okay. Men move in the shadow of
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: women's desire. When women say they're looking for something in
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: a man, men try to become that thing. So if
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: women say they want toxic relationships with men who neg
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: them and tease them and you know whatever, then guess what,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna get. So men to move in
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: the shadow of women's desire, that's a.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Good way of putting it. I was thinking about this too.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: I think something else that maybe is moving away from,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: like the sexual interaction between the sexes. I think women
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: give meaning to why we're here in this realm? Does
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: that make sense?
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: Like they.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: And I was thinking about this because I look at
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: like Mount Athos, and you look at like Buddhist monk groups,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: and most of them, like Mount Athos in particular, I'll
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: pull out. They live and they live with grace and
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: they live with gratitude, but they live with this relationship
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: to their own death. If that makes sense, this idea
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: that this world is transient and what they're living for
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: is to be received in the after world and into
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: the kingdom of Heaven.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: So it's like this community of men is almost detached
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: from the material world. And I'm not saying that that's bad.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying it seems to be something that men
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: do more of is detach from the material world. They
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: detached from the material. They can detach from the material
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: world to turn around and then investigate the material world.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: You know, they can detach from all kind of like
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: from family and community in order to do like physics,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: like Isaac Newton. So it's almost like this this idea
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: of detachment from the material and I think what women
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: do when they're not total see you next Tuesdays. I
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: was about to say the C word.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: I think I've already said that on the stream twice.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: So okay, well, but what valuable that's socially valuable is
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: they bring that connection back to the material. So what
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: is important about the work that we do here in
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: this world? And I mean I think I think what
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: we're looking at is for a long time women were
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: had it on easy mode because obviously the material work
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: is survival. Right now that's gone. They don't know what
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: the hell and they're and they're seeking the answer that
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: they need to find in themselves. In their relationship with men,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: which is distorting everything. And that's my philosophical concept for
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: the day. I think men bring this energy of not
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: getting too attached to the material, and women bring this
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: energy of what is the point of the material? All right? Okay?
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: And I think we got a really shallow society. Honestly,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: we do, we do.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: We live. We live in very shallow and materialistic times.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: Uh okay. I got a super chat from XARANX for
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: five dollars like ezaraenx, and he said, this is what
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: I've referred to as Adam Eves syndrome. It's exactly as
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Brian said, men move in the shadow of women's desire. Yes, yeah,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: it's like Karen used to say, if women demand the
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: men learn how to walk on their hands, men would
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: do it, and it's just because they want to please women.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: And you could say that this is backwards and that men,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: you know, love. One of the things that you'll hear
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: a lot is that if men lead, women will follow.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: But the problem is, I said a long.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Time ago, I quoted I think it was Oh she
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: was one of the like the forties big stars.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: Oh May West, May West.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: She said, when women go bad, men go right after them,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: all right, but that's a that's another way of saying it,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: but go ahead.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I was going to say, you know, like
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: that maybe there is like this idea that if men lead,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: women will follow, and that like the sin of Adam,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: if we just to talk a little bit about that,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: was that he did not. He tried to pass the
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: buck when God showed up and said, did you guys
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: eat the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge? And Adam said, well,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: she made me do it, And that's like his sin
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: was just instead of basically telling Eve no, which is
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: like the first thing that he did wrong was when
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: she said, hey, I've I had some of this fruit?
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Do you want some? And he's like sure. That was
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: his mistake. So that's why the original sin falls on
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: both was that Adam did not did he agreed to
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: go along with it, and when God showed up and
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: asked him, you know what was going on, he didn't.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: He tried to pass the buck and say it's her fault.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: But the thing is that we live in a time
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: now where women are they are afforded a tremendous amount
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: of power, and they could use it to build men
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: up or to tear them down, and they're tearing them
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: down right now. So but anyway, I got another super
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: chat from Albert Nada retro for two dollars Canadian again
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: and he says these are simps, not men. I don't
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: think that's fair. I think they are in fact men.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: But anyway, let's move on. Gonna play the video.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: And once again, I am so sorry for my earlier videos,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: which had the indirect effect of shaming men, telling them
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: that it's their responsibility to do this or that, to
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: try and over come all of this rudeness from women.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: I was trapped by the limitation of my own experiences.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: I can see that now, But it's obvious to me
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: now that the expectation that men have some kind of
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: obligation to overcome these ridiculous hurdles is in and of
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: itself sexist. That women are allowed and encouraged to display
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: this kind of behavior towards men is sexist. It is
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: not your fault that you were born a man and
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 5: into a culture that devalues and dehumanizes you to this degree.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: And I don't think that you should feel ashamed of
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: yourself because you don't have the stomach to tolerate this
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: kind of disrespect I used.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Hmm, yeah, yeah, shouldn't have to put up with that,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: and that's good that they're not, and I think that's
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: that's being reflected in the data.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: So mm hmm, yeah. Well, I mean, I think the
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: problem is that we need to get to those guys
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: and try to raise them, raise their spirits, because it's
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: pretty a lot of them are acquitting just out of
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: you know, just depression, not depression, but just I know
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: it's pragmatic, but it's also despondent. Right, It's like what next?
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: What now?
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: You know, now the meaning of the world is gone.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: So what you end up happening is there are men
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: who are just no longer participating in society as well.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, even beyond migtel, the quiet quitting, the you know,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: not doing anything at work, that kind of stuff trying
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: to do is minimum in terms of productivity and everything,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: any every bit of that just slows everything down and
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: makes us all poorer. And and doing it out of
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: doing it, doing it because you have a calling to
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: something more is doing it is different than doing it
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: because your reward no longer exists. You see what I'm saying,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: And you know, I think that it's important that you
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: know the men who are recognizing this and realize that
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: they do have something very valuable, which is the fact
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: that they are able to recognize this. I mean it
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: takes a lot, you know, like it takes a lot
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: for a guy to actually start questioning how identity has
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: been constructed in our society and how men are supposed
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: to be dependent on women for their identity and start
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: questioning all that takes a takes a sort of a
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: uniquely I don't know what the right adjective is, uniquely
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: stubborn person, but anyway, I are we. I guess we
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: can finish it off.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: That's that space, I mean, like there is. I don't
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: think there's anything else but here. I'll play a little
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: bit more of it.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just to think that men who did not learn
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: game or seduction techniques were cowards, and maybe that's true
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: in some cases, but now I see it more like
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: maybe those guys have some self esteem. They respect themselves
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: too much to participate in such a degrading activity having
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: to pass shit tests. As you can see, my thoughts
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: are always evolving. I've been thinking about this a lot,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: and the fact that those old videos are still sitting there.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: That really bothers me. They don't really reflect my current thoughts,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 5: and so I wanted to do like a type of update.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: So what about you?
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, yeah, that's kind of him wrapping it up.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: But basically he says that he's leaving the videos up
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: because they might they might still be useful to some people,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: but that his sort of view that it's always on
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: the man to like, you know, figure it out. Is
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: basically he's like aware that this is incomplete, but he
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: leaves his own videos up.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, I would say that it's I think it's fine
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: to want to be able to become more attractive to
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: the opposite sex, even if it requires some self sacrifice
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: and personal work, right, you know, like not eating all
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: the pre friederals and going to the gym, you know,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: for women, not just men.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: I think that's that's fine. It's it's perfectly if men
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: want to learn the social skills necessary to become attractive
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: to women. I think that's perfectly fine. When it becomes
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: a problem is when it's endless, like when it at
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: no point do you say, well, do you really want
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: this creature in your life? I'll use that woman's term
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: back back at her like, do you really want that
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: piece of shit that that can't even exist without five
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  Speaker 2: filters on her fucking face? You know, do you really
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  Speaker 2: want that in your life? And I mean it would
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  Speaker 2: be good for pickup artists to or people involved in
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  Speaker 2: this to be to be able to make that distinguishment
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  Speaker 2: between Yeah, it's fine to want to be more attractive
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  Speaker 2: to be opposite sex. It's fine to make an effort
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  Speaker 2: to become attractive to the opposite sex better yourself, But
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  Speaker 2: there's also a good good amount of room for is
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  Speaker 2: it worth it for the women that are available now?
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  Speaker 1: You know question? Yeah? For sure? Is it worth it?
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  Speaker 1: Is the jew's worth the squeeze? Well, anyway, that's the
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  Speaker 1: end of the video. He just basically like ends it
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  Speaker 1: by saying, you know, there there's more to this video,
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  Speaker 1: and this is just like a short version. You have
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  Speaker 1: to go to his Patreon and watch everything else. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's basically the end of it. But there is another video.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to do for another show,
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  Speaker 1: another show, because I'm I'm dealing with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is why we had to we had to
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: move the show forward. My My Cars Doors froze, and
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: so we we actually had to drive to the Badger
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  Speaker 2: Cave and my husband was like holding his door closed
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: because water probably got in the mechanism and it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: engaging properly. So he has to put it into the
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  Speaker 2: shop to actually figure it out. I think he's he's
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  Speaker 2: he told me that he might have to take it
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  Speaker 2: off the hinges and like disassemble the door to just
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: get all the water out of it or something. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's why this started a little late. I mean a
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  Speaker 2: little later than it usually does, because I know we
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  Speaker 2: always start late. But yeah, so it's it's quite cold
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: and and I don't know if I really want to
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  Speaker 2: The other thing that happens when it gets cold here
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: is the Internet goes out because hoarfrost gathers on the
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: lines and then breaks them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it's a good thing, you guys.
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  Speaker 2: That didn't happen, so yes, so maybe let's not push it. Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to thank everyone who supported us with
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  Speaker 2: our your super chows. I'll go see if there's any
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: thank yous. And I do have a big thank you
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  Speaker 2: for Anonymous, who once again put in two thousand Smacaronys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah to ship dude, I don't even think I have
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  Speaker 1: a sound bite good enough for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to, like, we need to get a
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  Speaker 2: good sound bite for.
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  Speaker 5: Him for that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he has the favorite thing he wants to
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  Speaker 1: listen to. I have another one. That's another Gladiator.
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  Speaker 6: Quote here, magic distracted, take away that freedom and still
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  Speaker 6: the war beating Rome.
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  Speaker 1: Not the marvel of the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: It's the sound of the colosseum mm hmm. It's depressing death.
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  Speaker 5: And they will do nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a it's a quote from Gladiator.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, honestly, it does have it does it does?
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  Speaker 2: Ring true? It seems like both men and women sort
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: of have that death urge.
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  Speaker 1: Rome is the mob, is what he said. Yeah, at
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: that time at least.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, So thank you too and honest for that.
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• 1:37:54
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