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Full Show Podcast: 19 February 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the inside Andrew Dickens
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  Speaker 2: It'd be as goodboding to you and welcome to your Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up over the next sixty minutes, it's interest rate
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  Speaker 2: day today? What should the Reserve Bank do? Your thoughts
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  Speaker 2: you can text me ninety two ninety two. I'll have
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  Speaker 2: my thoughts at a moment and in fifteen minutes time
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk to Sharon Zohner from the A n Z
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  Speaker 2: The Big World story the US and Russia meat in
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  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia to discuss Ukraine. What happened. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: talk to Marco Rubio's former chief of staff in about
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  Speaker 2: five minutes. Lydia Coe is our top sports person. But
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  Speaker 2: who's the new talent coming through? And the misuse of
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  Speaker 2: census and COVID data. We'll talk to the man representing
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  Speaker 2: the Mariahs at the center of the storm. Yes, you
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  Speaker 2: dot NZ it's seven after five Wednesday, the nineteenth of February.
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  Speaker 2: The big story. US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, speaking
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  Speaker 2: with Russia in Saudi Arabia, says the crucial meeting was
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  Speaker 2: the first step of a long and difficult journey, but
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  Speaker 2: an important one. The high level talks went on for
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  Speaker 2: about four hours in Saudi Arabia and they agreed to
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  Speaker 2: appoint teams to continue negotiating to end the war. Russian
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  Speaker 2: Foreign Minister Sir Gey Levrov also says they will appoint
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  Speaker 2: ambassadors to each other's countries as soon as possible.
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  Speaker 3: The first agreement is not the most complicated. One is
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  Speaker 3: to ensure the speediest possible appointments of ambassadors to remove
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  Speaker 3: the barriers that for many years, first of all, the
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  Speaker 3: Biden administration in the last four years erected in between
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  Speaker 3: our diplomatic missions and.
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  Speaker 2: Mico Rubio stressed the fact that nobody's being sidelines in
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  Speaker 2: these negotiations. Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski has been meeting
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  Speaker 2: with Turkey's president in Turkey's capital, Anchora. He says today
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  Speaker 2: the pair discussed the global processes in great detail that
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  Speaker 2: could lead to the end of.
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  Speaker 3: This war, Ukraine and in the broadest sense, Europe, Turkey
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  Speaker 3: and Great Britain must be involved in the talks and
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  Speaker 3: in working out the necessary security guarantees together with America
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  Speaker 3: that concern our destiny in our part of the world.
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  Speaker 2: Now to the Middle East and atop Hamas leader says
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  Speaker 2: the militant group will release six living Israeli hostages on
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  Speaker 2: the weekend and the bodies of four others in the
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  Speaker 2: coming days. It includes the remains of the two youngest
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  Speaker 2: hostages who for many Israelis have embodied the captive's plight
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  Speaker 2: in Gaza.
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  Speaker 4: Those b Bus boys have become really iconic symbols across
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  Speaker 4: Israel of the brutality of the Hamas attack on the
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  Speaker 4: seventh of October. They are on euro rules. They are
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  Speaker 4: very much seen as symbolic off the seventh of October attack.
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  Speaker 2: These young boys are the Ol Bibas and Kafie Bibas.
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  Speaker 2: And finally, Pot Francis has begun his fifth day in
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  Speaker 2: hospital for what doctors have described as a complex respiratory infection.
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  Speaker 2: He will not take part of this weekend's Holy Year events.
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  Speaker 2: The pontiff, who's eighty eight years old, has been suffering
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  Speaker 2: from respiratory infection for more than a week. He was
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  Speaker 2: admitted to Rome's Gamelli Hospital. On Friday Local time, It's
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  Speaker 2: ten out of five.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
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  Speaker 2: It'd be now. The question I have for you and
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  Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank is do you think inflation's under control?
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  Speaker 2: Because in many ways it isn't. Last Friday, stats New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand announced that food prices across New Zealand rose by
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  Speaker 2: one point nine percent in January, and the proportion of
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  Speaker 2: the prices in the food basket that we measure that
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  Speaker 2: increase by more than five percent was the highest in
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  Speaker 2: five years. That's twenty percent of them. And you know
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  Speaker 2: this because you pay this. The average price for a
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  Speaker 2: two liter bottle of milk was four dollars fifty four
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  Speaker 2: in January this year. Last year it was three dollars
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  Speaker 2: ninety three. Imported foods up as well. The average price
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  Speaker 2: of a block of chocolate five dollars seventy two in
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  Speaker 2: January twenty twenty five, four dollars ninety in January twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four. We've got increased taxes and xis causing price rises.
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  Speaker 2: Alcohol and tobacco went out two point four percent in January. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: the non tradable aspect of inflation remains baked in. In
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  Speaker 2: the past weeks we've had headlines of higher insurance premiums
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  Speaker 2: and RPE rises. Add to that the global instability that
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  Speaker 2: we've reported on, the unexpected rise in inflation in America
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  Speaker 2: and China continuing to be in a relative doldrum. Gosh,
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  Speaker 2: what a belong this. You're left with a scenario that
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  Speaker 2: inflation has not left us, or in fact not left
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  Speaker 2: the world. In fact, you could argue it's back as
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  Speaker 2: strong as ever. So what would you do about interest
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  Speaker 2: rates today? If you're the bank governor? There's a very
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  Speaker 2: there's a very real argument that they should stay put
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  Speaker 2: and certainly not go down. But what is Sharon's on
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  Speaker 2: to think? We'll talk to her shortly. It's twelve after five.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens and Wayne Brown's up for another stince as
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  Speaker 2: mayor of Auckland. So if I have one judgment on
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  Speaker 2: his performance in his first term, might say this, he
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  Speaker 2: wasn't as bad as many expected, but nor was he
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  Speaker 2: as good as he likes to tell everyone. His flood
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  Speaker 2: performance was poor, but he's been learning on the job.
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  Speaker 2: He's come to see the logic of the improved rail service.
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  Speaker 2: He claims not to know what's happening with the city's streets,
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  Speaker 2: even though plans a public record, but he also realizes
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  Speaker 2: that waging a holy war against roade works and particularly
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  Speaker 2: roecones is a vote winner. He is the best choice
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  Speaker 2: I think we have. The only other candidate better qualified
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  Speaker 2: might be Deasi Simpson. But now that Wayne has the
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  Speaker 2: bit between his teeth, she might think better to quit
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  Speaker 2: the race. Otherwise she will split the sender right vote
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  Speaker 2: Paula Bennett and Simon Bridges. Sorry, guys, you're gonna to
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  Speaker 2: wait for another time. Meanwhile, the left, who is going
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  Speaker 2: to compete against Wayne from the left? I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: The left needs to think long and hard about who
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  Speaker 2: they think might want to have a crack and who
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  Speaker 2: might be able to beat the center right. Because at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, it's a one horse race for the Auckland
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  Speaker 2: mayor and that horse is called Wayne, and it's thirteen
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  Speaker 2: after five. So Matt Tarrell is the former chief of
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  Speaker 2: staff from Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio is doing the first
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  Speaker 2: steps towards ensuring a piece in Saudi Arabia. Now, so
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  Speaker 2: we've managed to track Matt down and we'll talk to
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  Speaker 2: him in just a moment and try and figure out
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  Speaker 2: exactly what happened in that four hour meeting. It is
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  Speaker 2: now thirteen after five.
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  Speaker 2: Sibby, Welcome on in. It's a quarter after five. So
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  Speaker 2: the United States and Russia are going to appoint teams
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  Speaker 2: to negotiate ending the Ukraine War. You wear. Secretary of
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  Speaker 2: State Marco Rubio has finished up a for our meeting
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  Speaker 2: with Russian officials in Saudi Arabia. Sergey Leverov, Russia's foreign minister,
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  Speaker 2: says Russia and the United States have agreed to corect
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  Speaker 2: to create conditions to restore cooperation in full between the
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  Speaker 2: two nations.
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  Speaker 3: We did not just listen to each other, but we
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  Speaker 3: heard each other. I have every reason to believe that
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  Speaker 3: the American side understands our position.
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  Speaker 2: So what might have happened in that meeting. Marco Rubio's
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  Speaker 2: former chief of staff is a fellow by the name
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  Speaker 2: of Matt Terrell. He's in Milwaukee, and Matt joins me.
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  Speaker 5: Now, Hello, Matt, Hey, grig bere with you.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think happened in that for our meeting.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we'll see what comes out of the reporting on it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, what I can tell you is that it
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  Speaker 5: appears to be a first step in terms of negotiations here,
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  Speaker 5: particularly particularly with Russia. And so the bottom line here is,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's a first step.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Marco Rubio says, the peace is a verb, not
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  Speaker 2: a noun, and it's all about incremental steps.
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  Speaker 5: That's all right. Look, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 5: actually speak louder than words and support and have meetings
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  Speaker 5: the support and have dialogue and discussions. But the end
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  Speaker 5: of the day comes down to action, and you get
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  Speaker 5: to see action on the side of putin that to
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  Speaker 5: see action among other actors here, particularly it relates to
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  Speaker 5: Russia and deciding what happens here. But obviously Ukrain will
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  Speaker 5: be at that table as well. You know what President
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  Speaker 5: Trump spoke just a few days ago with Villainsky, And
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  Speaker 5: you know the bottom line here. Steve Woodkoff and others
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  Speaker 5: on the foreign policy team of President Trump's team have
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  Speaker 5: been discussions with Ukraine officials and Russia officials now and
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  Speaker 5: it appears in Saudi Arabia, So you know, at the
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  Speaker 5: end of the day it's going to come down in
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  Speaker 5: what the actions are and clearly, well to see what
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  Speaker 5: that all means the main book, because the discussions about
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  Speaker 5: land and discussions about whether or not Ukraine would be
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  Speaker 5: able to join NATO, those are all things that are
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  Speaker 5: going to be discussed here, negotiated, Those are many of
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  Speaker 5: the key things that I think are going to be
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  Speaker 5: certainly on the table. But then of the day, you know, look,
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  Speaker 5: this war needs to end. That President Trump campaign down
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  Speaker 5: any campaign on any this war to negotiation, not to
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  Speaker 5: putting boots on the ground. So right now it comes
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  Speaker 5: down to with these discussions, hugging the discussions unfold. Again.
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  Speaker 5: What occurred here over the past few hours is just
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  Speaker 5: the first step. But you don't get to finalization negotiations
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  Speaker 5: without starting negotiations and hopefuls what we're seeing here in
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  Speaker 5: terms of a peaceful resolution and negotiate resolution here that
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  Speaker 5: won't require more bloodshed.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when do you think the United States will talk
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  Speaker 2: to the Ukrainian side, because they have to be part
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  Speaker 2: of the negotiations in the end.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's viral that they are and they have been.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, you saw Secretary of Rubio and others
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  Speaker 5: clearly state that, you know, the United States and President
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  Speaker 5: Trump have been in discussions and jaws with Zelenski, and
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  Speaker 5: so look at the end of the dating and support
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  Speaker 5: and recognize that they are at the table here clearly.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously you're seeing other voices here among Europe voice their
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  Speaker 5: their thoughts on this. But look, the reality is it's
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  Speaker 5: going to come down to having they have both leaders,
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  Speaker 5: both put and Angelinski at the table here among other
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  Speaker 5: key keep players here to help bring this war to
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  Speaker 5: an end. But I think you know, and it's a
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  Speaker 5: repetitive you're redundant on this point, but really I think
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  Speaker 5: the key goal here in Saudi Arabia was to at
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  Speaker 5: least get Putin and his team, if you will, to
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  Speaker 5: the table. Now you can't start negotiations, so you actually
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  Speaker 5: get these key players to the table. And that was
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  Speaker 5: the first step here. It's not the only step. I
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  Speaker 5: think there's many more steps of course, are going to
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  Speaker 5: be needed here. But again, the goal here is to
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  Speaker 5: end the saying. You know, there's been reports, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know how accurate these are or not the reports that
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  Speaker 5: you know, the Russian military has lost over one hundred
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  Speaker 5: and fifty thousand soldiers and obviously their economy is taking
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  Speaker 5: a hit by much of the recording with saying you know,
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  Speaker 5: I think at the end of the day, this is
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  Speaker 5: something that in addition to you know, the lives sally
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  Speaker 5: lost in the Ukraine side, you know, this is something
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  Speaker 5: I need to come to an end present some campaign
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  Speaker 5: down that and that's something he wants to deliver on
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  Speaker 5: I think soon here.
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  Speaker 2: And you've been micro Rubio's chief of staff. Is he
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  Speaker 2: good at this sort of stuff?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I worked with more on his twenty fifteen campaign
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  Speaker 5: and when he was running for president in twenty sixteen,
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  Speaker 5: he was able. When I recognize the least and many
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  Speaker 5: of those who work with him recognized, was his ability
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  Speaker 5: to dive deep into the foreign policy issues that don't
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  Speaker 5: always get the headlines. So, look, he has a very
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  Speaker 5: clearnerstanding of history. I think is a very clear understanding
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  Speaker 5: of the key challenges that we are facing when it
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  Speaker 5: comes to your question of negotiation. Look, this is someone
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  Speaker 5: who has been at this during his time in the
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  Speaker 5: Senapal Relations Committee, the Senate Intel Committee. He's not new
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  Speaker 5: to the foreign policy challenges that we're facing, not just
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  Speaker 5: as a country but as a world. I think this
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  Speaker 5: is somebody who's got charisma and ability to negotiate, but
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  Speaker 5: it's gonna be him and others obviously at the table here.
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  Speaker 5: But then they it's going to come down to I
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  Speaker 5: think President Trump. You know, I think there's only one
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  Speaker 5: world leader right now who can really bring this thing
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  Speaker 5: to an end. I think that that's President Trump. I
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  Speaker 5: think it's wondering why he won the last election in
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, because Americans want to see this war
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  Speaker 5: coming to end, as the people around the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Matt Terrell, I thank you for your time.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Terrell is Maco Rubio's former chief of Stuff and
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  Speaker 2: This is News. It's five twenty Sharon Zoon is joining
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  Speaker 2: us next to talk about what the Reserve Bank should
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  Speaker 2: do today. It's interest rate Day.
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  Speaker 2: It's five twenty three. The Reserve Bank, what are they
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  Speaker 2: going to do today? They're expected to cut the OCEA
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  Speaker 2: by fifty basis points to three point seventy five percent.
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  Speaker 2: It's locked in, they say, as a near certainty, but
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  Speaker 2: of course we never know until it actually happens. In
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  Speaker 2: the A and Za Tief economists, Sharon Zooner joins me,
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  Speaker 2: good morning, Sharon, good morning. What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 6: We're also in the camp that says our cup fifty
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  Speaker 6: they stick called it really, really unusually clearly in November,
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  Speaker 6: which was brave because it was a three month gap
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  Speaker 6: until the actual decision. But as it happens, the data
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  Speaker 6: has fallen what most peop would consider in line with
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  Speaker 6: therefore cuss a few under zanovs, but overall not challenging
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  Speaker 6: their narratives. So you're seeing quite a strong consensus amongst
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  Speaker 6: both economists and market participants at our cup fifty today.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's a who we're around saying don't cut it
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  Speaker 2: or just do zero point twenty five because food prices
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  Speaker 2: are rising in January, non tradable inflations, baked in American
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  Speaker 2: inflations ticking up. Is the possibility of a global trade war.
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  Speaker 2: We've got global instability affecting supply chains. There's some very
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  Speaker 2: real arguments to ty hoe.
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  Speaker 5: There are some very.
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  Speaker 6: Real arguments to be cautious about the medium term outlook.
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  Speaker 6: But basically, what happens to that domestic sticky inflation that
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  Speaker 6: the Reserve Bank really cares about depends on where the
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  Speaker 6: economy was that sort of six months ago, really, and
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  Speaker 6: six months ago the economy was in a pretty dark place.
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  Speaker 6: So it's reasonably it's reason for the Reserve Bank to
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  Speaker 6: expect that domestic inslation to continue to fall, and they
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  Speaker 6: don't want to overdo things, don't want to cause unnecessary pain,
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  Speaker 6: but also don't want to cause inflation to go out
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  Speaker 6: at the bottom of the band. So that's like they're
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  Speaker 6: comfortable cutting now, but they have suggested that they will
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  Speaker 6: start to move more cautiously as they get closer to neutral.
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  Speaker 6: So that's where it does to get interesting. Sidney five,
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  Speaker 6: which is where they'd be after a fifty point cut,
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  Speaker 6: Is that closer to neutral? All the next most the
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  Speaker 6: twenty five or fifty? There is some debate on that point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, how low could they go? You're quite right.
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  Speaker 2: The debate is between some people saying three point five,
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  Speaker 2: that'll be about it. Some people have said, well could
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  Speaker 2: go as lot as three, what do you think?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and some people are saying lowd than that. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think the Reserve Bank will necessarily feel the need
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  Speaker 6: to be dogmatic about exactly where the OCR finishes up today.
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  Speaker 6: But their last forecast suggested the OCI would go down
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  Speaker 6: to about three, and I guess the market's probably assuming
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  Speaker 6: that they'll show something similar today. If they show it
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  Speaker 6: going there only slowly, you could see some disappointment from
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  Speaker 6: the market. In which tests you could actually see it
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  Speaker 6: will bump up and illustrates and exchange rates even though
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  Speaker 6: they're cutting. On the other hand, if the market thinks
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  Speaker 6: they sound like they're going to cut faster, you could
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  Speaker 6: still see reaction. So even though they're cutting, the actual
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  Speaker 6: reaction on the day will depend on what they say,
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  Speaker 6: their tone, their forecasts compared to what the market is.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to what they have to say and
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  Speaker 2: what they have to say about our economy right now. Sharon,
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  Speaker 2: it's always great that you wake up for us, and
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  Speaker 2: I thank you. Sharon's owner is the A and Z
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs Economy Chief Economists And it's now five twenty five
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  Speaker 2: with Brian Roach's report into the civil Service that shows
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  Speaker 2: us to be over governed and shows our governance our
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: civil service to be below standard, then the slow degradation
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  Speaker 2: of New Zealand's reputation is certainly underway. We have too
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: many public servants and the ones that are there are
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: making either stupid mistakes or dodgy decisions. So New Zealand
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: can do better. That's the report card seconds five twenty nine.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Lidia co is our supreme holbig winner. We'll look at
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  Speaker 2: this in a few moments time before before six, we're
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: going to talk to a fellow who represented them arise
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: about of course, the data link. And have you ever
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: wondered what a mummy smells like? And when I say
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: a mummy, I mean an Egyptian mummy, a five thousand
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: year old Egyptian mommy all swallowed up. Have you ever
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: wondered what it smells like? Well, someone's done some research
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: and found out for you, and we'll find out that
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: from Gavin Gray. It's a Wednesday. My name's Andrew Dickins.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you. This is News Talk SIB.
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  Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in Depth
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
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  Speaker 1: Your Property Search Simple News talks it by good Kid.
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  Speaker 2: You'd bet at the Wednesday Ive Andrew Dickens. If you
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: haven't heard, you just did. Lydia Coe is our Supreme
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Halberg winner. She wasn't actually there at the evening, but
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: somebody from Golf New Zealand was plenty chuffed about it.
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  Speaker 7: Dame Lydia Coe.
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  Speaker 4: Lydia Coe has two PUDs to go from legend to immortal.
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: She's twenty seven and she has completed gold.
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  Speaker 8: On behalf of Golf New Zealand and I think many
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: many Kiwis all around the country.
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  Speaker 5: We're enormously proud to Dame Lydia. You're a legend.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Yes she is.
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  Speaker 2: In one year she won the Olympic gold medal, she
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: won the British Open, she was the youngest player ever
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: to be inducted into the Golf Hall of Fame. She
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: won another two big tournaments and then to top it off,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: we made her a dame as well. What a golden
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. And what I love about that twenty
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: twenty four for Lydia is that she had some Soso.
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  Speaker 2: Years before that, remember, she was not winning, and she
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: got married and there was talk of her retiring and
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: getting down to a family life. But boy, she came
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: storming back in twenty twenty four and she's top of
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: the tree. A remarkable talent and that was well deserved.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So too was the recognition of Hamush Kerr. You see,
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  Speaker 2: I used to compete in the high jump when I
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: was a kid at school. I got as high as
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: six foot five. I jumped six foot five, three inches
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: taller than me. But in all that time, I never
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: ever thought I'd ever see a New Zealander as the
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: best high jumper in the world. But here we have it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: He's a nice bloke and he's going to be on
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: with Mike Hosking this morning. I feel for Chris Wood,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: who's doing remarkable things in football, but he was up
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: against it. It's an Olympic year, so maybe next year
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: for Chris. But football got its recognition with the Best
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Emerging Talent award. And this is what I love about
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: this thing. You start hearing about people doing amazing things
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: around the place that you never heard before. This is
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a young man called Tyler Binden. He was born in
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: New Zealand, but he moved to California when he was
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: twelve because his mum got a gig coaching the UCLA
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: football team, so he spent his teams in America. He
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: represented USA as a teen. He played against Argentina for USA,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: but now his allegiance is back with his home country.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: He plays with the All Whites and he's been signed
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: by the same Premier League team that Chris Wood plays for,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Nottingham Forest, and they play in the English Premier League.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Tyler Binden superstar in the making, Tyler and soccer in
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: general is on fire right now. It's twenty one to six.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens, let's go.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Let's go right around the country. Callen Proctor from Dunedin.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Good morning to you morning, Andrew, but not a good night.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Very wet.
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  Speaker 9: He's been wet, yes, right around Otago. In fact, torential
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: rain causing flash flooding in parts of the region. I
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: mean good news for topping up our southern lakes, but
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: for areas like Millis Flat, Beaumonton and Lawrence, there's been
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: extensive surface flooding. Police asking motorists to avoid State Highway
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: eight that's between Miller's Flat and Ray's junction. Video supplied
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: to our newsroom show the road and undated the previous
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: dry creek off the kloof the river breaching its banks.
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: There's been general flood warnings issued for the rand Furley
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: and Patior communities. The Central Otago District Council saying there's
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: been so much water it's been lifting manhole covers. So
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: hopefully those conditions ease today. However, more rain is forecast.
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: What is the forecast? You will possibly heavy and thundery
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: shellers around Otago this afternoon. South easterly is developing Dunedin's
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: heighs today twenty one.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Remember your umbrella and I thank you. And Claire Sherwood
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: joins us fro christ Church tellaclaire. Hello, So what's going
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to happen with christ Church's Red Zone?
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  Speaker 10: Yes, well, hard to believe Andrew that this weekend will
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: mark fourteen years since that area of christ Church became
• 21:40
  Speaker 10: known as the red Zone and that twenty eleven earthquake. Now,
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: city councilors today will decide whether they'll push ahead with
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: a new governance plan for the area that's known as
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: the Avon River Corridor.
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  Speaker 11: It would at first.
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  Speaker 10: See an interim committee created to take care of that area.
• 21:56
  Speaker 10: That would be made up of three EWI and three
• 21:58
  Speaker 10: council represented. It would then later become a council controlled
• 22:02
  Speaker 10: charitable trust now the AVON or TARCTO Network Manager Hailey
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  Speaker 10: Gulietta she believes, you know, it's a good idea, but
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: she does want to see one of those council voices
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: be from within that community on the east side of
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  Speaker 10: Christchurch rather than just any elected official. She says she
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: will be advocating for the elected members at the very
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: least to come from that side of christ Church or
• 22:24
  Speaker 10: Central in order to have a best read.
• 22:27
  Speaker 11: On what happens with that area.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so how's your weather partly glady?
• 22:31
  Speaker 10: We could see a charer L two this afternoon. Some
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: could be heavy northwesterlies and a high of twenty eight.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Max told joins us from Wellington. Hellimax, good morning, You're
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: getting another massive wind farm.
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: Well yeah, I mean look white it up. It is
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: a little further north but near enough to drive to.
• 22:48
  Speaker 12: These plans for a wind farm have been in question.
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: Some locals have been kicking up a fuss. They don't
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: like the proximity to some of their homes within two
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: kilometers in some instances. But the plan is Miuradian Energy
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: wants to build a wind farm of more than twenty
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: turbines at Mount Montroe, that's just south of Ekeatahuna. It
• 23:09
  Speaker 12: would provide enough power to generate powerful more than forty
• 23:13
  Speaker 12: thousand homes in Northern Wide and appa to generate about
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: three hundred giga what hours of renewable energy every year.
• 23:22
  Speaker 12: And so the Environment Environment Court has granted a resource consent,
• 23:26
  Speaker 12: but there is likely to be a legal challenge now
• 23:28
  Speaker 12: in the High Court.
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  Speaker 2: All right, how's your with it? I hope it's windy?
• 23:32
  Speaker 12: Oh well a little windy, yes, cloudy as well with
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: a little drizzle. Twenty two the High Central very good.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Never written amount of jointing now from Auckland.
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: Andrew, what's going on? It's like the tropics in here.
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: Have you not turned on the aircorn? It's flip and
• 23:44
  Speaker 11: warm man.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: No I said it to twenty four, but it was
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: it was on nineteen. So it's only been on twenty
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: four for a half an hour.
• 23:52
  Speaker 11: Oh you wait till the host comes in. You are
• 23:54
  Speaker 11: so going to get it. Nineteen is a really good teamp. No, oh,
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: it's too, I can barely speak.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, right, carry on, okay, let's talk fireworks.
• 24:06
  Speaker 11: Yes, Now, what I can tell you is that Auckland
• 24:08
  Speaker 11: Council seeking advice. Now this is on how to reduce
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: the nuisance and danger being caused by fireworks. So there's
• 24:14
  Speaker 11: been a report and that has been seen by the
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: news room and here at newstak ZB and the council
• 24:20
  Speaker 11: can continue, which is good news, to advocate the central
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: government for a nationwide ban. This is on the private sales.
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: So it says that the council can also tighten existing
• 24:29
  Speaker 11: by laws, you know, possibly raising that bar that must
• 24:32
  Speaker 11: be met when applying for a trading license. So both
• 24:34
  Speaker 11: of those options are now going to be considered by
• 24:37
  Speaker 11: the counselors. What will happen is that that final decision
• 24:41
  Speaker 11: will be resting on the Regulatory Community Safety Committee.
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: Oh right, I got.
• 24:45
  Speaker 11: Those words out.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, how's the weather fine?
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: Hot, hot, muggy here and the ZIBI main studio cloud
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: developing in the afternoon charts of a shower twenty six
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: is the high outside in Auckland?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Cow, did you get a jacket on?
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: Go too?
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: Because when I got back into the news right and on.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: The way out. Could you turn down the air condition?
• 25:04
  Speaker 11: No, I'm going to wait till it comes in here.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all good, it's all good. Thank you so much. Right,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I've just got a text from Graham, and I'm pretty
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: sure I know Graham because I think I might have
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: coached his kids.
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: Anyway.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Graham says, Andrewid's football, not soccer. I know. I say
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: football all the time and people go no, no, no,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: But it's soccer, you know the old debate. I said
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: soccer once, So that was very clear. Tyler Binden is
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: a great footballer. It's also quite good at soccer. What
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: does a mummy smell like? Yes, Gavin Gray is on
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: the way with that detail and also more details about
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: the US Russia discussions in Saudi Arabia. It is now
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: sixteen to five.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Six International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: It is thirteen to six. Keavin Gray out of the UK.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Gavin, Either Andrew Pope francis not well five
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: days now in hospital.
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and just been announced that every engagement right through
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: until the weekend, including the weekend, has been canceled. The
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: eighty eight year old was admitted into Rome's Jamelli Hospital
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: on Friday to undergo treatment and tests for bronchitis. We're
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: now being told he's got a polymicrobial infection of his
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: respiratory tract. What that basically means is he's had to
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: now have a change in the treatment that he was
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: originally prescribed. He's described as in a stable condition, he
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: does not have a fever, but nevertheless, this course is
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: very worrying.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: He has a.
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: History of illness, particularly to do with his lungs, including
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: just at the age of twenty one he actually had
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: part of one of his lungs removed, having suffered from
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: health issues for many years, and in March of twenty
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: twenty three he spent three nights in hospital with bronchitis,
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: and in June that year underwent a three hour operation
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: to repair an abdominal hernia. So afraid, some bad news.
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: Plenty of well wishers though at Saint Peter's Basilica, plenty
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: of weld wishes throughout the Vatican. But yeah, pretty worrying
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: days for the Pope.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Very unfortunate timing because this is the wholy year, the anniversary,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: the big Old celebrations, and he's missing out and he
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: will be missed. And finally, your textpayer's money has been
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: spent on researchers figuring out what a mummy smells like.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: And when I say mummy, I mean an Egyptian mummy.
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: Yes, fascinating this Apparently when you open up one of
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: these mummies, even five thousand years on, they actually smell
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: quite nice, I believe it, or not a pleasant smell
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: according to scientists, and that is due to the use
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: of resins and oils like pine cedar and juniper. So
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: this was a team from University College London looking at
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: basically collaborating and conservators and curators at the Egyptian Museum
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: in Cairo. They had a look at nine mummified bodies
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: and the smell has always been something that has fascinated
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: researchers because, as I mentioned, it's actually not pleasant. It
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: is not the smell of decay, and the smell is
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: a very key consideration for ancient Egyptians, it would appear,
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: particularly when it came to the mammification process. Even though
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: five thousand years on, of course things have changed, but
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: it was said that the smells that and the oils
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: that we used are really really rather pleasant This is
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: a seems to be a bizarre thing to investigate and research,
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: but nevertheless really interesting that something all those years on
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: can actually smell quite good.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Kevin, I thank you. It is now ten to six
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens, all right, it's a very damning inquiry, wasn't it?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: And it found that public service agencies shared Kiwi's personal
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: information with third party agencies. Now, this inquiry followed alegations
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: that census and COVID vaccination data collected at Manya Dewa,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Malai was used to target Maldi voters and the tammy
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: caem cod o elliterate. So the report says STATS New
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Zealand had insufficient safeguards in place to protect the personal data.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: You know this is serious because the boss of Stats
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: in New Zealand, the big Boss, fell on his sword immediately.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Health New Zealand and the Ministry of Health were also
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: criticized for their roles in sharing the data. Now, Alan
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Holds is an employment advocate who represented six Malai workers
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and one MSD in the inquiry and joints me.
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: Now, hello allan morning, Andrew.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: So what does this outcame mean for say, the whistleblowers.
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: Vindication and I guess what it means is that the
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: abuse that they've suffered, probably for eighteen months has been vindicated.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: I think the real sad part about the entire story
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: is that the whistleblowers were telling the truth the entire time,
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: and without their bravery. And I'm talking about bravery because
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: all of them are faced retaliation and in different ways
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: abused in public, discredited publicly. I've been discredited publicly on
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: multiple occasions for actually standing up and telling the truth.
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: And without the whistle blowers, we wouldn't have this report.
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: And I think it's a bit disappointing that the Prime
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: Minister and the people involved haven't said thank you, brave
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: whistle browers for bringing this evidence to us in a
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: format that we could understand now.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, but surely surely there was some wise we want
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: We'll want more, because while this inquiry says it should
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: not have been released, it doesn't actually say what the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: information was then released to do. So it seems incomplete
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: in terms of the total misuse of it. There's a
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: lot that is unfocused.
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: I think it's pretty clear the report, and I've read
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: the sixty eight page report, it sees that information was
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: shared private information of New zeal Is a complete census
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: form was shared with people that it shouldn't have been
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: shared with and it is a complete breach of privacy.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, so how contentious does that Tommikimikoto result seem now
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: to you?
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: I think a number of us have believed for some
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: time that if it wasn't for the data being accessed
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: by dupay Mary, that the would be a different person
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: in Parliament right now in that seat.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: How much distress is this causing?
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: I think all it's doing is is proving what a
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: lot of people have thought for a long time about
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: some of the processes that have operated, that there isn't
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: the confidence in the public service. And I say that
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: because this particular cases only the tip of the ice speak.
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: We have so many more whistle blower cases within the
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: public service of serious wrongdoing and that's that's what we're
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: talking about. And the report this is only the initial
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: stage where they're actually saying what the Public Service investigator found.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: A thank you for your work, thank you for your time.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: This morning, that's Alan Wholesey represented the whistleblowers.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one room. Make your property
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: surgent symbol.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: You talk Nike asking you're very good with the English language.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Is it football or soccer football? Thank you?
• 32:43
  Speaker 13: No worries Brian Wroach this morning, and having read the
• 32:46
  Speaker 13: report yesterday, there's so many reports still to come, the
• 32:49
  Speaker 13: main one being or the criminal one potentially being the
• 32:52
  Speaker 13: one as to what the Murray party did or didn't
• 32:54
  Speaker 13: do with them. You know, say that he's sure that
• 32:58
  Speaker 13: another person should be in the in the time chem Well,
• 33:00
  Speaker 13: that's I mean, that's that's the thing. That's a parliament,
• 33:02
  Speaker 13: the parliament of the country potentially is not made up
• 33:05
  Speaker 13: correctly and so you know that that goes to everything
• 33:08
  Speaker 13: we believe in. But yesterday's report, I mean, how many
• 33:11
  Speaker 13: reports have you read over the years about the public
• 33:13
  Speaker 13: service being useless? And you know the government, the labor
• 33:15
  Speaker 13: governments stacked them to the gunnals, gave them all pay rises.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: You know you did you hear the comparison of the
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: number of agencies we have compared to Ireland to slit
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: here fifteen there? How to blow them up, get rid
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: of them?
• 33:25
  Speaker 13: And for all of the angsting that was going on
• 33:27
  Speaker 13: last year about people losing their job and losing their
• 33:29
  Speaker 13: job's hard work. We've all lost our job. But I mean,
• 33:31
  Speaker 13: when you look at this report and how incompetent they are,
• 33:35
  Speaker 13: it's unbelievad anyway, So he's all the program opod.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Or good and I thank you, and I thank Kenzy,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: my producer Libby who helped. And I'm Andrew Dickin. See
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: you again tomorrow. Have a great Wednesday.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: Her Heal.
• 34:00
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