Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / BRITNEY SPEARS "WET RECKLESS" PLEA, BUSTS OUT OF REHAB, CAUGHT ON VIDEO "TWERKING SONS LEG"
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Superstar Britney Spears enters a wet and reckless guilty plea
- 0:05Speaker 1: what is that wet and reckless? Also Spears bust out
- 0:11Speaker 1: of rehab way early? Did it do any good at all?
- 0:15Speaker 1: As she is immediately caught on video twurking on her
- 0:20Speaker 1: own son's leg. Okay, we're off to the races. Good evening.
- 0:26Speaker 1: I mean, is he grace? This is crime Stories. I
- 0:28Speaker 1: want to thank you for being with us. We felt
- 0:37Speaker 1: like a stuckus animal.
- 0:39Speaker 2: She was pushed out there to do the shows, and
- 0:42Speaker 2: then she claims her family took all her money.
- 0:44Speaker 1: This is her life, this is all she knows.
- 0:48Speaker 3: She is a performer.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Britney Spears busts out of rehab after a wet, reckless
- 0:55Speaker 1: please straight out to Sierra Fox, joining US entertainment host
- 0:58Speaker 1: media personality for TV anchor five Fox five in dccre
- 1:03Speaker 1: what happened?
- 1:04Speaker 4: It?
- 1:05Speaker 1: Rehab's already over.
- 1:07Speaker 5: I know it went by quick, just three weeks, Nancy.
- 1:10Speaker 5: But Britney Spears was arrested back on Wednesday, March fourth,
- 1:12Speaker 5: in Ventura, California, after allegedly driving erradically in her black
- 1:17Speaker 5: BMW on US one oh one, and this was reportedly
- 1:20Speaker 5: her first offense. She's never had a DUI before. Thankfully,
- 1:24Speaker 5: no one got hurt, there's no crash or injury involved.
- 1:27Speaker 5: And now she's been sentenced to twelve months summary probation,
- 1:31Speaker 5: has to pay a five hundred and seventy one dollars fine,
- 1:33Speaker 5: has to participate in a three month DUI program, totaling
- 1:37Speaker 5: thirty hours of class time once a week. She now
- 1:40Speaker 5: has to visit with the psychologist twice a month, visits
- 1:43Speaker 5: from a psychiatrist, and her attorney says she's taking responsibility
- 1:47Speaker 5: and she's thankful for the outpour of support she's received.
- 1:50Speaker 5: Serut put out a statement saying this is her first stop.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Britney Spears taking responsibilities here of Fox, whoa, whoa, whoa?
- 2:00Speaker 1: She was a no show in court? Was she in court?
- 2:03Speaker 1: Sierra Fox?
- 2:05Speaker 5: She was not in court, Nancy No pause, pause pause.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Can I see the working on the Sun's leg video?
- 2:13Speaker 1: That's what I need to see right now, just to
- 2:15Speaker 1: make sure it's real. Did this happen? Oh okay, yeah
- 2:20Speaker 1: it is happening.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:22Speaker 5: Not the best look for Brittany right now.
- 2:25Speaker 1: To Chroy s Layton joining US veteran trial lawyer out
- 2:28Speaker 1: of this jurisdiction in LA. He is also candidate for
- 2:32Speaker 1: LA Superior Court Judge Choice Layton. Why wasn't she in court?
- 2:39Speaker 2: She's not required in a misdemeanor case. In the state
- 2:42Speaker 2: of California, an attorney can appear on behalf of their
- 2:45Speaker 2: client as long as they have permission from their client
- 2:48Speaker 2: under Penal Code Section nine seven seven. So it's a
- 2:52Speaker 2: standard operating procedure in courts every day throughout the state
- 2:56Speaker 2: of California. Brittany did nothing wrong or nothing in usual
- 3:00Speaker 2: by having her attorney appear on her behalf as long
- 3:04Speaker 2: as he's got authorizations exact.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Please look at your monitor. She just pulled her bikini
- 3:12Speaker 1: bottom down, so her pubic here, if it was there,
- 3:16Speaker 1: would have been visible.
- 3:18Speaker 2: That has nothing to do with this.
- 3:20Speaker 1: She's nothing wrong. Look, I'm not the church lady, but
- 3:22Speaker 1: that ain't the way to start off after rehab. You
- 3:25Speaker 1: know what, Hold on, I appreciate everything you're saying, but
- 3:27Speaker 1: at least show up to court before I go to
- 3:30Speaker 1: max Minor Troy Slaton. What is a wet reckless plea?
- 3:35Speaker 2: It's something in between a dry reckless and a dui.
- 3:40Speaker 2: It has all the hallmarks of a dui. You still
- 3:43Speaker 2: have to go to an alcohol and drug education class.
- 3:48Speaker 2: It's still priorable as a DUI, which means if she
- 3:50Speaker 2: gets another DUI within the next ten years, it counts,
- 3:55Speaker 2: it would count to enhance the second offense. There's still
- 4:00Speaker 2: a fine, there's still the driving restrictions from when she
- 4:03Speaker 2: was arrested. So it just kind of makes the person
- 4:06Speaker 2: feel better and gives them a little bit of a carrot.
- 4:09Speaker 2: It's reserved for cases where there's very low levels of
- 4:13Speaker 2: alcohol and there was no accident, that there was no
- 4:17Speaker 2: really serious reckless driving.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Why did you say accident when you make the decision
- 4:24Speaker 1: to drink and then you get in a car. Look,
- 4:27Speaker 1: I have rooted for Britney from day one. I was
- 4:30Speaker 1: out there with Free Britney. I got a lot of
- 4:32Speaker 1: hate for that. But where it all stops for me,
- 4:36Speaker 1: it's when she finally gets an HB A vitual violator.
- 4:40Speaker 1: An HV is the worst and you get hard jail
- 4:44Speaker 1: time for that. Why do you get an empty when
- 4:46Speaker 1: you finally MOUs somebody down?
- 4:49Speaker 2: What It's not illegal to drink and drive. It's not
- 4:53Speaker 2: illegal to drink and drive. It's illegal to be above
- 4:57Speaker 2: a point zero eight. It's illegal to be so ampas
- 5:00Speaker 2: it may not.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Be illegal if you're under point zero eight. You know what,
- 5:04Speaker 1: you tell that to the crash victim, And it is
- 5:08Speaker 1: not an accident. When you choose to drink and get
- 5:12Speaker 1: behind the wheel, that is a decision. And I know
- 5:15Speaker 1: you heard me straight out to Max Minor joining US
- 5:18Speaker 1: President CEO Executive Treatment Solutions, Max. Three weeks, really, and
- 5:27Speaker 1: she's already working on her son's leg. I'm not the
- 5:29Speaker 1: church lady. I don't care who she works on, but
- 5:33Speaker 1: how can three weeks of rehab do anything?
- 5:39Speaker 3: Well? I mean from my perspective in terms of what
- 5:41Speaker 3: I do every day, the outcome couldn't have been more
- 5:43Speaker 3: perfect for her. However, it's not about you know what,
- 5:48Speaker 3: It's about what changed when she left Nancy, and quite frankly,
- 5:52Speaker 3: based upon what we're seeing, doesn't seem like a lot has.
- 5:55Speaker 3: And conversely, don't get me wrong, people can spend six
- 5:58Speaker 3: months in a treatment center and unless you buy into
- 6:01Speaker 3: the process, you're never going to affect any change. But
- 6:04Speaker 3: the reality is is that two and a half weeks
- 6:08Speaker 3: that's just getting started. Let's be honest with each other.
- 6:10Speaker 3: She's thirty sixty ninety days. People like to think that
- 6:13Speaker 3: there's these timelines, but based upon what we're seeing, it
- 6:18Speaker 3: doesn't seem like she's affected any change.
- 6:20Speaker 6: To me, How is Britney Spears doing right now?
- 6:22Speaker 4: She's doing well, She's doing great. She's very positive. She's
- 6:26Speaker 4: obviously pleased with the result here, the dismissal of the dui,
- 6:31Speaker 4: the reduction to a reckless thriving. It's twelve months of probation.
- 6:36Speaker 4: She's going to do well and we all root for Brittany.
- 6:39Speaker 1: There were all the reports that she had left rehab early.
- 6:42Speaker 7: Is that accurate?
- 6:43Speaker 4: Absolutely? Finn.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Is she happy with the plea that was taken inside court?
- 6:47Speaker 4: I don't think anybody's happy about pleading guilty to anything,
- 6:49Speaker 4: but under the circumstances and to get this behind her,
- 6:52Speaker 4: I think everybody is pleased with the result. We appreciate
- 6:56Speaker 4: the court, We appreciate the thoughtful disposition, we appreciate the
- 7:00Speaker 4: trick attorney recognizing the positive steps that Brittany has taken
- 7:04Speaker 4: to help herself, and you know, we expect that she'll
- 7:07Speaker 4: continue to do so.
- 7:08Speaker 5: M M.
- 7:10Speaker 1: That is Michael Goldstein. That's Britney Spears's lawyer speaking to
- 7:15Speaker 1: Entertainment tonight to Dave mac joining me, Crime Stories investigative reporter.
- 7:19Speaker 1: I never would have appreciated for a defense attorney to say,
- 7:24Speaker 1: we really appreciate everything you did. That means they liked it.
- 7:29Speaker 1: That means they got what they wanted, which is probably
- 7:31Speaker 1: not in the best interest of the people, the state,
- 7:34Speaker 1: the innocent people out there driving their children home from
- 7:38Speaker 1: soccer practice or to piano classes, and here comes Brittany
- 7:41Speaker 1: and a big hanking Hummer point zero six. What happened
- 7:47Speaker 1: to the drugs, Dave mac the drugs that were in
- 7:49Speaker 1: her car.
- 7:50Speaker 6: You know, Nancy, that was not part of this plead
- 7:54Speaker 6: deal at all, not mentioned, just tossed away. We don't
- 8:00Speaker 6: know exactly what they found, and they did the well,
- 8:04Speaker 6: every drugs were found were not mentioned as part of
- 8:06Speaker 6: her sentencing in court.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Back to Sierra Fox joining US entertainment host former anchor
- 8:12Speaker 1: Fox five, Sierra, thank you for being with us tonight.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Can we go through the plea and what happened in
- 8:18Speaker 1: court from beginning to end? Tell me?
- 8:23Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, Brittany was sentenced, as we mentioned, to twelve
- 8:27Speaker 5: month summary probation. She has to pay up five hundred
- 8:30Speaker 5: and seventy one dollars fine, She has to participate in
- 8:32Speaker 5: a three month UI program totally thirty hours of class time,
- 8:36Speaker 5: and then once a week now she has to visit
- 8:38Speaker 5: with a psychologist, and twice a month she will visit
- 8:41Speaker 5: with a psychiatrist and her manager put Alistamen saying, this
- 8:43Speaker 5: is the first stop in a long overdue change that
- 8:46Speaker 5: needs to happen in Brittany's life.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Two Max Minor, you're stating that you believe, with all
- 8:53Speaker 1: of her history, all off her history, reckless driving, seemingly
- 8:59Speaker 1: driving under the influence, and more, you believe a thirty
- 9:04Speaker 1: day program works because this is the first time I've
- 9:08Speaker 1: ever heard that.
- 9:10Speaker 3: No, no, I do not, and listen, nobody has a
- 9:14Speaker 3: crystal ball. But what I can tell you is that
- 9:16Speaker 3: it takes typically at least ninety days to where we
- 9:21Speaker 3: can actually see any sort of change take place. But Nancy,
- 9:24Speaker 3: you have to remember this is a first time. Do
- 9:26Speaker 3: you why her going into residential treatment on her own
- 9:30Speaker 3: volition is much more than you know the average person
- 9:35Speaker 3: does or is even capable of doing. So they really
- 9:38Speaker 3: lean into that. What I'm confused about, and what we
- 9:42Speaker 3: see with our clients all the time, is that she
- 9:44Speaker 3: decided to leave before court. From my understanding, and that
- 9:49Speaker 3: just really kind of tells you exactly where you know
- 9:53Speaker 3: what the intentions were. I mean, I'd also like to
- 9:55Speaker 3: know what's the continuation plan, what's the after care plan
- 9:58Speaker 3: look like for her, because I just don't think that
- 10:02Speaker 3: anything is in place, I mean kind of subject to
- 10:04Speaker 3: what we've seen with some of these videos, it just
- 10:06Speaker 3: doesn't seem like, you know, it just doesn't seem like
- 10:09Speaker 3: she's on the on the path to recovery.
- 10:13Speaker 1: And again, Max Minor, all I care about is protecting
- 10:18Speaker 1: victims from violent crime, and that includes being run down
- 10:22Speaker 1: in a crosswalk by drunk driver. I've seen too many
- 10:26Speaker 1: mangled up cars. I've seen too many bodies pulled out
- 10:29Speaker 1: of cars as a result of drunk driving. I want
- 10:34Speaker 1: to circle back with you in a moment, Max, about
- 10:36Speaker 1: the fact that her BA blood alcohol was point zero
- 10:40Speaker 1: six by the time it was finally drawn at the hospital. Okay,
- 10:47Speaker 1: number one, But when you say the continuation plan and
- 10:52Speaker 1: what you're seeing reveals to you that nothing has changed. Again, Max,
- 10:59Speaker 1: I don't care if she dances around naked on insta
- 11:04Speaker 1: I don't care. I think it's a shame that if
- 11:07Speaker 1: she's going to dance and use her talent, she's not
- 11:10Speaker 1: booked in Vegas making a mint of money because she's
- 11:13Speaker 1: spending it like it's water. But that said, you know
- 11:16Speaker 1: the old phrase, why buy the cow and you get
- 11:19Speaker 1: the milk free. I think she needs to be using
- 11:24Speaker 1: her talent to benefit herself and her children, right, But
- 11:30Speaker 1: that's just me. I don't care what she does on Insta.
- 11:33Speaker 1: I'm not passing a moral judgment on her. I don't
- 11:36Speaker 1: want anybody to pass one on me, and I don't
- 11:38Speaker 1: want to pass one on her. But I agree with
- 11:42Speaker 1: you Max Minor that to hop straight back in to
- 11:47Speaker 1: Insta torquing on your kid's leg, it seems like she's
- 11:52Speaker 1: right back to what she was doing before. Whatever that
- 11:56Speaker 1: may be, nothing has changed. If that, you can probably
- 12:01Speaker 1: verbalize it better than me.
- 12:04Speaker 3: Well, I mean I again, you know, yes, I agree
- 12:06Speaker 3: with you that the I just keep going back to,
- 12:09Speaker 3: you know, with our clients, the new gold standard has
- 12:13Speaker 3: become a year in treatment that I think what what
- 12:16Speaker 3: really hurt her situation is that.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Dope Bubba hold on the new gold standard is a
- 12:23Speaker 1: year in treatment somewhere like Betty Ford, which is real.
- 12:30Speaker 1: It is not like a spa in Puerto Rico. It's real.
- 12:37Speaker 1: You get real help. And I've noticed Max Minor, and
- 12:42Speaker 1: this is your business president and CEO of Executive Treatment Solutions.
- 12:47Speaker 1: It's a pre saw mitigation treatment support service. It helps
- 12:51Speaker 1: people in crisis avoid jail time through treatment plans. That's
- 12:56Speaker 1: what you do. I've noticed that people voting celebrities that
- 13:01Speaker 1: go into Betty Ford come out and they seem to
- 13:05Speaker 1: be better. And it's really hard to beat alcohol. It
- 13:11Speaker 1: just takes over you. You can't fight it. It's an addiction.
- 13:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it really is. And what I meant
- 13:20Speaker 3: by the gold standard, Nancy, is that typically what we're
- 13:24Speaker 3: seeing with the courts in southern California is that they're
- 13:27Speaker 3: requiring a year in treatment. Usually I mean with felony,
- 13:31Speaker 3: serious felony crimes. And I think what hurt her here
- 13:34Speaker 3: is that her an attorney herself, very quickly realized that, hey, listen,
- 13:39Speaker 3: this is a first time, do you I everything that
- 13:41Speaker 3: Sierra listened off, that's basic, basic stuff that she has
- 13:45Speaker 3: to do as a result of her plea of to
- 13:48Speaker 3: what reckless. It's basic stuff. Everybody has to do it.
- 13:50Speaker 3: It's box standard. What I would have liked to have
- 13:53Speaker 3: seen is her attorney, her so called team supporting her
- 13:58Speaker 3: leveraged the criminal case a little bit more and say, hey,
- 14:01Speaker 3: why don't we at least complete thirty days? You know
- 14:04Speaker 3: what I mean? Just there just wasn't very much forethought there,
- 14:07Speaker 3: And that's what makes me believe that this isn't for real.
- 14:11Speaker 1: You know what Robert Downey did. Robert Downey Jr. And
- 14:14Speaker 1: he had a horrible addiction problem and is one of
- 14:20Speaker 1: I believe, one of the greatest actors ever that we've seen.
- 14:25Speaker 1: And I remember a phrase he stated Max Minor that
- 14:30Speaker 1: he was you know, this is theoretically to make a point.
- 14:36Speaker 1: He said, he was putting a gun in his mouth
- 14:40Speaker 1: and he liked the taste of the metal. In other words,
- 14:44Speaker 1: continuing to drink. He was putting the gun in his
- 14:48Speaker 1: mouth and he liked the taste of the metal. I
- 14:52Speaker 1: never will forget him saying that he was trying so
- 14:56Speaker 1: hard to get clean. And he finally went into as
- 15:01Speaker 1: I Recall Wavelengths International and he was in that program
- 15:05Speaker 1: six months after he got out of jail. And he
- 15:09Speaker 1: went on to be a huge success in Iron Man
- 15:13Speaker 1: and all of the sequels, have a happy home life, everything,
- 15:17Speaker 1: and he is dry. And I use him as an
- 15:22Speaker 1: example of what you can do, but it's hard. It's
- 15:27Speaker 1: so hard, Max. I've seen so many people. I would
- 15:31Speaker 1: recognize them when they came back in the courtroom, and
- 15:34Speaker 1: of course I only handled felonies, but by the time
- 15:37Speaker 1: I got them, they were habitual violators, or that had
- 15:40Speaker 1: a crash, or they had killed somebody. And I don't
- 15:44Speaker 1: want that for Britney Spears in thirty days. It's like
- 15:48Speaker 1: flicking water at an inferno. It's nothing.
- 15:53Speaker 3: Correct. And I think that's been made very clear, right
- 15:58Speaker 3: And I think what's also been made very clear is
- 16:00Speaker 3: that there's more than just the criminal case. And again,
- 16:04Speaker 3: no one has a crystal ball. I'm not a doctor.
- 16:07Speaker 3: I can't predict your future. But what I can tell
- 16:10Speaker 3: you with one hundred percent certainty is that the more
- 16:13Speaker 3: time that you spend any treatment environment, your chance is
- 16:17Speaker 3: for success and continued long term. Sobriety exponentially increase. And
- 16:24Speaker 3: thirty days that's not that's that's a starting point. That's
- 16:28Speaker 3: not the finish line.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Hey, Max, let me ask you a question, because I
- 16:34Speaker 1: am speaking anecdotically. I'm telling you anecdotes, stories, true things
- 16:40Speaker 1: that happened to me when I was prosecuting, and what
- 16:42Speaker 1: I saw and what I saw. I was already a
- 16:45Speaker 1: teetotaler for health, but what I saw in the courtroom
- 16:48Speaker 1: made me a teetotaler for life, for life. No alcohol
- 16:53Speaker 1: in the house, nothing, Because I saw so many brilliant
- 16:57Speaker 1: people their lives were just ruined. And I remember one
- 17:03Speaker 1: one case, I was a pony, as they called it.
- 17:06Speaker 1: I had just come to the office and I was
- 17:08Speaker 1: studying under a veteran trial lawyer, a great trial lawyer,
- 17:13Speaker 1: and he had me take a couple of guilty please.
- 17:16Speaker 1: And I was looking at this woman's file. She had
- 17:18Speaker 1: been the top of her game, stockbroker, three children, husband,
- 17:23Speaker 1: beautiful home, the works, everything dream come true, right, Okay,
- 17:27Speaker 1: Her husband left her, she lost custody of her children.
- 17:30Speaker 1: I think you have to be bonded to be a
- 17:33Speaker 1: stockbroker in certain situations to trade stocks and bonds. She
- 17:37Speaker 1: lost that because of drinking. She lost everything. Nobody was
- 17:42Speaker 1: in court when she took her guilty plea. She came,
- 17:45Speaker 1: you know, hobbling in. She was triple shackled, which of
- 17:48Speaker 1: course did not need to be done. I ordered her
- 17:50Speaker 1: legs to be unshackled. She was shackled at the hands,
- 17:53Speaker 1: to the waist, to the foot, and she came in
- 17:57Speaker 1: with those chains jingling. I'm like, I can't believe this
- 18:01Speaker 1: beautiful woman has lost everything and her husband had written
- 18:06Speaker 1: all these letters. He's never going back, she's never getting
- 18:08Speaker 1: custody again. It's all gone. And I decided to be
- 18:13Speaker 1: teetotal that day and never even been tempted. So what
- 18:18Speaker 1: I'm saying is you it can ruin your life. Explain
- 18:23Speaker 1: what you do, Max.
- 18:27Speaker 3: Well, I can definitely second that it can ruin your life.
- 18:30Speaker 3: You know, Nancy, as you know my personal story. So
- 18:33Speaker 3: you know what we do is we take, we help.
- 18:35Speaker 1: Everybody else doesn't know your personal story tell it. So
- 18:40Speaker 1: you know my name is Max Minor and I'm an alcoholic.
- 18:43Speaker 1: Isn't that how it starts?
- 18:45Speaker 3: Correct? Correct? Correct, that's right. My name is Max Myer.
- 18:48Speaker 3: I'm an alcoholic, and you know I nearly lost everything
- 18:52Speaker 3: as a result of it. I spent nine years in
- 18:55Speaker 3: active addiction and to your point, right, found myself in
- 19:01Speaker 3: the most demoralizing situations that I never thought were possible.
- 19:05Speaker 3: I was doing things you know that I told myself
- 19:08Speaker 3: that I would never do. And it was all a
- 19:10Speaker 3: result of my untreated substance abuse. And you know, an
- 19:14Speaker 3: alcohol issue and so what we do, Nancy at Executive
- 19:17Speaker 3: Truman Solutions is we help people navigate those exact same
- 19:22Speaker 3: struggles that nearly killed me, and we help them navigate
- 19:27Speaker 3: the criminal justice system. We leverage their criminal case in
- 19:30Speaker 3: a way that motivates them as that little extra bit
- 19:34Speaker 3: of motivation to help keep them on the straight and narrow,
- 19:39Speaker 3: get through the criminal case and come out the other
- 19:41Speaker 3: side stronger.
- 19:42Speaker 1: Well, Max, you apparently didn't lose everything because I see
- 19:45Speaker 1: a child's drawing behind you and a friend photograph of
- 19:49Speaker 1: a female, So there's obviously somebody still in your life
- 19:53Speaker 1: that didn't leave you. You didn't lose your family.
- 19:57Speaker 3: Need you well the you know. Funny enough, I met
- 20:01Speaker 3: my wife a year and a half sober. I now
- 20:05Speaker 3: have two little girls, two and three, and it was
- 20:09Speaker 3: all you know. That's That's the beautiful thing about it, Nancy,
- 20:12Speaker 3: is that you can really rise from the ashes. And
- 20:18Speaker 3: I would have never I would not have the girls,
- 20:20Speaker 3: I would not have my wife if it wasn't for
- 20:23Speaker 3: everything that I had to go through. And the only
- 20:26Speaker 3: way that I was going to be at that specific
- 20:28Speaker 3: gym that day is if I was at the sober
- 20:32Speaker 3: living that I'd spent a year in, you know, the
- 20:34Speaker 3: treatment center just down the street. So it's funny how
- 20:37Speaker 3: life it has a way of lining things up for you,
- 20:41Speaker 3: isn't it.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Hi, Max, don't screw that up. Two little girls, a
- 20:46Speaker 1: beautiful wife that loves you. Don't mess it up, man.
- 20:49Speaker 1: And you know what, You're not the only one. Dave
- 20:51Speaker 1: mac my friend, my colleague, who was with me practically
- 20:56Speaker 1: every day on the air. Dave Mac is crime Stories,
- 20:59Speaker 1: investig a reporter nearly lost it all because of alcohol.
- 21:03Speaker 1: And look at him now, Dave Matt explained, do you?
- 21:08Speaker 1: And of course we're on the outside looking him. But
- 21:10Speaker 1: I've seen enough cases, Dave Matt, I've seen enough heartache
- 21:14Speaker 1: to know thirty days for Britney Spears didn't do anything. Dave.
- 21:20Speaker 6: It broke my heart seeing her come out of this
- 21:24Speaker 6: so called rehab and immediately returned to you know, posting online.
- 21:29Speaker 6: Seventeen days for somebody that has an addiction alcohol, drugs
- 21:34Speaker 6: is detox. You know, it takes a week to ten days,
- 21:37Speaker 6: sometimes longer, just to get your system cleared out. And
- 21:42Speaker 6: in the first thirty days, Nancy, there's all this is
- 21:45Speaker 6: roller coaster of emotion. You've got the physical stuff, you know,
- 21:49Speaker 6: you realize in the first thirty days a lot of
- 21:51Speaker 6: people can't sleep because of the physical trauma, the emotional
- 21:55Speaker 6: and psychological trauma, all that's going on. Think about that
- 21:59Speaker 6: seventeen days, she probably isn't sleeping through the night. And
- 22:04Speaker 6: this is the part that hurts is that I know
- 22:06Speaker 6: what's possible, you know, I know that she can come
- 22:08Speaker 6: out of this and can be an example for the
- 22:11Speaker 6: world to look and go, wow, she did it, because
- 22:13Speaker 6: it's available if you just will apply yourself. I went
- 22:17Speaker 6: through it. My goodness.
- 22:18Speaker 1: It stinks being at the.
- 22:20Speaker 6: Very bottom, but you know, when you're so low you
- 22:23Speaker 6: can play handball against the curb Nancy. You're looking for
- 22:26Speaker 6: a way to survive, and it is not just possible.
- 22:30Speaker 3: People are doing it every day.
- 22:32Speaker 6: I did it, and I think with all of the
- 22:36Speaker 6: spotlights on Brittany, it's got to be tough. But she's
- 22:40Speaker 6: got so many people standing around her, handing her a
- 22:42Speaker 6: pill or handing her this, or telling she's fine.
- 22:44Speaker 3: She's not fine.
- 22:46Speaker 6: And I just pray that in this time of I
- 22:51Speaker 6: hope reflection, that somebody can get her ear and say, hey, sweetie,
- 22:55Speaker 6: let's do this for real, Let's get your life back
- 22:58Speaker 6: not the show and tell. Let's get your life back,
- 23:02Speaker 6: and that's all. That's my biggest hope and prayer for her.
- 23:05Speaker 1: Right now, this is my house.
- 23:10Speaker 8: If I want to come in here and give you
- 23:11Speaker 8: lotion for your face because it is coarse, and all
- 23:14Speaker 8: you tell me no is fine?
- 23:16Speaker 1: Is fine? No, it's not fine.
- 23:18Speaker 8: You all better start respecting me.
- 23:21Speaker 1: Are we clear?
- 23:23Speaker 8: Yeah? And when Robin calls and you're all, you're all,
- 23:26Speaker 8: even Robin's a fucking kid, she goes, what have you
- 23:29Speaker 8: been doing to your kids?
- 23:30Speaker 1: You're all?
- 23:32Speaker 8: You all need to start treating me like a woman
- 23:34Speaker 8: with worth. I am a woman. Okay, be nice to me.
- 23:39Speaker 8: Do you understand?
- 23:41Speaker 1: Have you lost your mind? Have you lost your mind?
- 23:45Speaker 1: I do care, but I'm shocked you are seeing from
- 23:49Speaker 1: fetter line for real. That is Brittany do king and
- 23:53Speaker 1: out with her children. And when she's saying respect me,
- 23:56Speaker 1: respect me, treat me like a woman, because actually I
- 23:59Speaker 1: think she has in disrespect and she's been objectified since
- 24:03Speaker 1: she was a little girl and worked like a mule
- 24:05Speaker 1: for Pete's sake. But my point there is Max Minor,
- 24:11Speaker 1: you've had to deal with the families like her boys.
- 24:14Speaker 1: I don't know how old they were in that video
- 24:17Speaker 1: and she's telling them to respect her, I mean their
- 24:19Speaker 1: little children. They're probably going, what is mommy saying? What
- 24:22Speaker 1: does that mean? But that said, I understand her anger
- 24:25Speaker 1: and frustration. But when you have a family, no, no,
- 24:31Speaker 1: they matter first. How many families have been lost and
- 24:36Speaker 1: sacrificed to alcohol, max minor people lose it all?
- 24:43Speaker 3: Yeah, we do. We have a way of doing that.
- 24:45Speaker 3: And the saddest thing is that, you know, when we're
- 24:47Speaker 3: in the midst of it, we're unable to see what
- 24:50Speaker 3: other people are so clearly able to see, which is
- 24:53Speaker 3: us just literally burning down the house with everybody in it.
- 24:57Speaker 3: And you know, I deal with families all day long,
- 25:00Speaker 3: and quite frankly, the truth is that a lot of
- 25:02Speaker 3: the times you have to remember is that, you know,
- 25:05Speaker 3: and not for a not for any you know, ballast reason,
- 25:09Speaker 3: but the families themselves become very sick in dealing with
- 25:14Speaker 3: the individual because they're constantly being manipulated, they're constantly being
- 25:18Speaker 3: lied to, they're constantly engaged in this like fight or flight.
- 25:21Speaker 3: And what's even more sad is when it's you know, children, right,
- 25:25Speaker 3: they don't have a choice. They can't just get up
- 25:27Speaker 3: and leave. But we see it all the time where
- 25:30Speaker 3: families themselves become very sick as a result of having
- 25:33Speaker 3: to deal with the chaos, the day to day chaos
- 25:36Speaker 3: of the individual that they love that is just in
- 25:38Speaker 3: the midst of either a full blown substance abuse of battle,
- 25:42Speaker 3: a psyche you know, or a psychiatric episode. And it's
- 25:45Speaker 3: it's really sad to see. It's very sad to see.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Guys, take a listen to what we are learning from
- 25:51Speaker 1: the Ventura County DA.
- 25:53Speaker 9: Missus Spears will have a diminished expectation a privacy in
- 25:59Speaker 9: her car as a result of this informal probationary grant.
- 26:03Speaker 9: What that means is that if she is stopped by
- 26:07Speaker 9: a peace officer, she will have to submit to a
- 26:11Speaker 9: test for the presence of alcohol or drugs. If stopped,
- 26:16Speaker 9: her vehicle can be searched for the presence of alcohol
- 26:22Speaker 9: and drugs, and she cannot drive with any intoxicant in
- 26:27Speaker 9: her body. One of the key components of the disposition
- 26:32Speaker 9: this morning was to make sure that Miss Spears continued
- 26:36Speaker 9: to undergo her mental health and substance abuse treatment regiment.
- 26:41Speaker 9: We are wholly in support of her doing so. This
- 26:46Speaker 9: will include at least twice a month visits with her
- 26:51Speaker 9: psychiatrist and once a week visits and sessions with a psychologist.
- 26:59Speaker 1: That's the DA speaking, and that's from our friends at
- 27:01Speaker 1: Fox News. Troy Slayton. I'll tell you another concern I have, Guys.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Troy is a veteran trial lawyer. He's won a lot
- 27:07Speaker 1: of cases, which of course is not the litmus test,
- 27:09Speaker 1: but it doesn't hurt anything. He's joining us out of
- 27:12Speaker 1: this jurisdiction La County. Troy, this is the thing, all right,
- 27:18Speaker 1: when you don't get well, when you're in there for
- 27:22Speaker 1: less than thirty days, and you walk out, don't show
- 27:25Speaker 1: up at court. I know you don't have a problem
- 27:27Speaker 1: with that. I do, and you go right back on
- 27:30Speaker 1: Insta living your old life. Your old life is not working.
- 27:36Speaker 1: It didn't work. You have to start a new life.
- 27:40Speaker 1: You have to start over with things different. And I'm
- 27:44Speaker 1: worried about this. The probation can turn into jail time
- 27:51Speaker 1: probation today, jail time tomorrow if she is caught drinking.
- 27:57Speaker 1: What happens to that probation.
- 28:01Speaker 2: Well, if she's caught violating any of the terms of probation,
- 28:05Speaker 2: then probation would be revoked. And what people don't understand
- 28:10Speaker 2: is what probation means is that we're giving you this
- 28:15Speaker 2: opportunity to have the keys to the jailhouse in your hands.
- 28:19Speaker 2: Means you're not going to go to the jail up
- 28:22Speaker 2: to ninety days that you can serve for a wet,
- 28:25Speaker 2: reckless here in California, and instead, if you do a
- 28:29Speaker 2: B and C in this case, if she goes to
- 28:31Speaker 2: the psychiatrist twice a week, if she goes to her
- 28:34Speaker 2: psychologist once a week, if she completes the three month
- 28:38Speaker 2: drug and alcohol education program, which is thirty hours, if
- 28:42Speaker 2: she does all those things and not drive with any
- 28:46Speaker 2: measurable amount of alcohol in her system or drugs, then
- 28:51Speaker 2: she'll successfully complete and after a year she'll be off probation,
- 28:56Speaker 2: and then all the rules that go back to somebody
- 28:59Speaker 2: who's not in probation apply to her, but she still
- 29:02Speaker 2: has a prior.
- 29:03Speaker 1: So bottom line, when you're on probation and you violate
- 29:08Speaker 1: the probation, sometimes even technically, but if you violate that
- 29:13Speaker 1: probation such as her drinking or doing drugs.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Or not driving class or not or not yet to
- 29:20Speaker 2: her drug route to class, or or not going to
- 29:24Speaker 2: her psych psychologist twice a week, and or psychologist once
- 29:29Speaker 2: a week and the psychiatrist twice a month. If she
- 29:33Speaker 2: doesn't do any of those things, then she'll be right
- 29:37Speaker 2: back in court and it won't be as nice as
- 29:39Speaker 2: it was the other day. And also she'll get alowed
- 29:44Speaker 2: to appear.
- 29:44Speaker 1: She'll get real troy.
- 29:46Speaker 2: And she wouldn't be allowed to appear without her attorney.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Her personal presence would be required.
- 29:54Speaker 1: I mean, that would be the least of her words
- 29:55Speaker 1: that she's got to go to court because her probation
- 29:58Speaker 1: will be revoked. In other words, if I sentence you
- 30:00Speaker 1: to two years probation, and of course that opens you
- 30:05Speaker 1: up to unannounced searches in your home or your car,
- 30:08Speaker 1: as he pointed out, and they find a joint, or
- 30:12Speaker 1: they find one hit of crack, or they find drug paraphernalia.
- 30:17Speaker 1: If they find anything, you're revoked for the period of
- 30:21Speaker 1: your probation. You go to jail then for two years
- 30:24Speaker 1: for what's left of your probation. So these conditions put
- 30:29Speaker 1: on her could trigger a probation revocation. To Sierra Fox,
- 30:36Speaker 1: joining US entertainment host former anchor Fox fives here, what
- 30:40Speaker 1: are the conditions on Britney Spears's probation.
- 30:46Speaker 5: Nancy. I just want to go back quickly to the
- 30:48Speaker 5: social media because people, I think feel just emotionally connected
- 30:52Speaker 5: to her story. She's gone from a global pop icon
- 30:55Speaker 5: to public struggles. We've seen it all to the conservatorship battle,
- 30:59Speaker 5: and people are really invested in what happens next. And
- 31:02Speaker 5: I think people are divided. Some people see her as
- 31:05Speaker 5: expressing her freedom and independence, and others are concerned about
- 31:09Speaker 5: her well being. But I think this just really highlights
- 31:12Speaker 5: the difference between the legal outcome here and public perception
- 31:16Speaker 5: because legally, technically this is result, but publicly people are
- 31:19Speaker 5: still going to form opinions based on what they see
- 31:22Speaker 5: her doing in real time on social media. Like right here,
- 31:25Speaker 5: she's dancing to the song Feeling Love by Paula Cole
- 31:29Speaker 5: in a short dress showing a lot of skin. And
- 31:31Speaker 5: we have to keep in mind Britney Spears is a performer,
- 31:35Speaker 5: so she probably misses that aspect in her life. So
- 31:37Speaker 5: this is just a way of her showing self expression.
- 31:40Speaker 5: Some people do that through golf, some people paint. Everyone
- 31:43Speaker 5: has different hobbies and I think this is just a
- 31:45Speaker 5: way that she expresses herself online. But I think a
- 31:48Speaker 5: lot of people are always so quick to judge what
- 31:51Speaker 5: she's doing and think something is wrong. But you can
- 31:53Speaker 5: see in her Instagram bio she says she's an artist,
- 31:56Speaker 5: a mama. She prays every day and chef in the work.
- 31:59Speaker 5: So clearly she has things that she loves in her life.
- 32:02Speaker 5: And I think you know, she probably wants to do
- 32:04Speaker 5: well and this is just a form of expression for her.
- 32:07Speaker 1: That said Sierra Fox. Again, no one is judging her morally.
- 32:11Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care, Sierra Fox, unless there
- 32:15Speaker 1: is crime scene tape around it, then I care. I
- 32:19Speaker 1: did make the observation, and she's going to dance, including
- 32:22Speaker 1: dancing naked, she might as well get paid for it
- 32:24Speaker 1: and get up on a stage and make money for
- 32:27Speaker 1: herself so she can continue the high life that she's living.
- 32:32Speaker 1: That said, I'm certainly not a financial advisor, but Dave
- 32:36Speaker 1: Mac I agree with everything Sierra Fox just said. But again,
- 32:42Speaker 1: what are the conditions of.
- 32:45Speaker 6: Probation asie, She has twelve months of informal probation, and
- 32:51Speaker 6: during that time she actually needs a three month substance
- 32:55Speaker 6: abuse program that has to be fulfilled. She was ordered
- 33:00Speaker 6: to continue mental health treatment that means a weekly psychologist
- 33:05Speaker 6: twice monthly psychiatrist visits and as part of the condition,
- 33:09Speaker 6: she waived that Fourth Amendment right to searching her vehicle
- 33:13Speaker 6: without a warrant. Her attorney fought and prevented it from
- 33:16Speaker 6: being extended to her home. They have to get a
- 33:18Speaker 6: warrant to search her home now. The DA's office, Nancy
- 33:22Speaker 6: considers this a quote unquote standard plea deal for a
- 33:26Speaker 6: first time offender with a low blood alcohol level.
- 33:34Speaker 1: There are conditions to Britney Spears' plea. She will be
- 33:37Speaker 1: placed on twelve months probation. That is going to be
- 33:41Speaker 1: a problem if she violates the law within the next year.
- 33:44Speaker 1: She cannot possess drugs without a prescription, a valid prescription.
- 33:49Speaker 1: That could be a problem because it's been reported Spears
- 33:53Speaker 1: has gone to Mexico more than once to get her
- 33:56Speaker 1: hands on adderall. She has to go to mental health
- 34:00Speaker 1: substance abuse treatment, meet with a psych once a week,
- 34:03Speaker 1: a psychiatrist twice a month. If she violates any of
- 34:07Speaker 1: these conditions during the next twelve months, she can be
- 34:12Speaker 1: sentenced to jail, speaking of jail max minor other than
- 34:18Speaker 1: getting dried out in jail. Do you believe any of
- 34:22Speaker 1: the rehab programs behind bars work.
- 34:28Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's a there's a two part question
- 34:30Speaker 3: of that, Nancy, is that you've got the state level programs,
- 34:33Speaker 3: which quite frankly are pretty much non existent, especially in
- 34:36Speaker 3: La County. And then you have the federal level programs
- 34:39Speaker 3: excuse me, three parts, and then you have the the
- 34:41Speaker 3: actual programs that are in prison, you know, like in upstate,
- 34:44Speaker 3: and those, you know, those absolutely provide value. But in
- 34:48Speaker 3: terms of La County jail, other than maybe getting a
- 34:53Speaker 3: you know, a alcoholics anonymous little book, you'll lucky, you'll
- 34:56Speaker 3: be lucky to get that, there's not really any programs
- 34:59Speaker 3: that are a aailable to individuals. At least I know
- 35:02Speaker 3: during my time, my wonderful time that I spent there,
- 35:05Speaker 3: you know, when I used to joke and call it
- 35:07Speaker 3: my penthouse on the fifth floor, there was there certainly
- 35:10Speaker 3: wasn't any programs available to me.
- 35:12Speaker 1: So question Troy Slayton. Part of the probation requirements is
- 35:17Speaker 1: that she attend a duy class. I've ordered that many
- 35:23Speaker 1: many times, but when it got to an HV moment
- 35:28Speaker 1: habitual violator, the person had to go to jail because
- 35:32Speaker 1: they had been charged with duy over and over reckless driving,
- 35:37Speaker 1: hitting a fixed object you name it until finally they
- 35:41Speaker 1: landed in my court. So what exactly are duy classes?
- 35:46Speaker 1: What do they do? How often are they? Does she
- 35:50Speaker 1: have to go? How will the court know if she
- 35:52Speaker 1: doesn't show up? Explain?
- 35:56Speaker 2: So, the three month alcohol class is known as AB
- 35:59Speaker 2: five already one here in California. She has to It's
- 36:04Speaker 2: broken up into several different types of sessions, one on
- 36:07Speaker 2: one group sessions which she will have to attend in person,
- 36:12Speaker 2: and they closely monitor it and they report back to
- 36:16Speaker 2: the court. She's gonna have to show proof of enrollment
- 36:19Speaker 2: in the class by a certain date. She's gonna have
- 36:22Speaker 2: to show progress in the class by a certain date,
- 36:25Speaker 2: and then she's gonna have to show proof of completion
- 36:28Speaker 2: to the court by a certain date. If she misses
- 36:31Speaker 2: any of those deadlines, or if she is a no
- 36:34Speaker 2: show to class without a pre arrangement with the class
- 36:41Speaker 2: to have a makeup class, then she could be in
- 36:43Speaker 2: a lot of trouble and that would be a violation
- 36:46Speaker 2: of her probation. So she's got a sword of damnicles
- 36:49Speaker 2: hanging over her head by a very thin string.
- 36:53Speaker 9: Discharge the reckless driving one is indeed what we call
- 36:57Speaker 9: priorable should she reoffend it in the future, she will
- 37:01Speaker 9: not be given the benefit of this reckless driving charge. Rather,
- 37:05Speaker 9: she will be charged with driving under the influence, and
- 37:08Speaker 9: her penalties and her consequences would ratchet up. That includes
- 37:13Speaker 9: potentially up to five years of formal probation and one
- 37:17Speaker 9: year Inventura County jail.
- 37:19Speaker 7: In this case, that was a dy. There was no
- 37:23Speaker 7: evidence presented that there were drugs in the home, alcohol
- 37:28Speaker 7: or anything of that type. So therefore, looking at the
- 37:32Speaker 7: nexus to the crime year, the court finds that it
- 37:35Speaker 7: should only be limited to her vehicle those search terms
- 37:38Speaker 7: I think, so she is open to search in seizure
- 37:42Speaker 7: for alcohol and drugs in her vehicle only does miss
- 37:46Speaker 7: Spears understand and set the terms of the conditions of
- 37:49Speaker 7: her summary probation?
- 37:51Speaker 4: Sear behalf from the spear she weeds and.
- 37:53Speaker 7: She understands, And does she understand that this is priorable
- 37:56Speaker 7: as dui meaning although she was only convicted of they
- 37:59Speaker 7: went and reckless, if she's convicted the duy within the
- 38:02Speaker 7: next ten years, it will count as a second.
- 38:04Speaker 3: Does she understand that shit all right?
- 38:07Speaker 7: Then she's released on twelve months of summary probation, will
- 38:10Speaker 7: need sign terms within one.
- 38:12Speaker 1: Month from our friends at Fox News and Extra. So
- 38:17Speaker 1: does this mean at the end of twelve months she's
- 38:20Speaker 1: cut loose Max Minor, no supervision, no psych, no duy
- 38:26Speaker 1: class is nothing, you.
- 38:29Speaker 3: Know, unfortunately, Nancy, that that's exactly act. That's one hundred
- 38:32Speaker 3: percent accurate, right, as long as she adheres to the
- 38:35Speaker 3: terms of her probation successfully completes the AB five forty
- 38:38Speaker 3: one that Troy spoke about. You know, and I want
- 38:42Speaker 3: to add to that is that, you know, while that
- 38:44Speaker 3: is conducted by a third party, there's there's there's programs,
- 38:47Speaker 3: businesses that provide these services. You know, it's not it's
- 38:53Speaker 3: not as cut and dry as people think. It's not
- 38:54Speaker 3: as black and white.
- 38:55Speaker 2: You know.
- 38:56Speaker 3: Yes, people say, well if you miss one class, but
- 38:58Speaker 3: there's ways to wiggle around it, right, There's ways to
- 39:02Speaker 3: there's ways to work the system. So you know, in
- 39:05Speaker 3: the beginning saying I talked about, well, I mean, for example,
- 39:09Speaker 3: let's say you know, she doesn't show up for a
- 39:11Speaker 3: couple of sessions. There's ways, you know, if you're looking
- 39:14Speaker 3: to game the system, there's ways to do it, of course, right, Unfortunately,
- 39:18Speaker 3: but I think what we talked.
- 39:20Speaker 1: About, how do you do it? Max I know you
- 39:22Speaker 1: know the answer. How do you cheat the order?
- 39:28Speaker 3: So, I mean, for example, what you could very easily do.
- 39:30Speaker 3: So let's say she let's say she she does have
- 39:32Speaker 3: to take a you know, a a urine test, right,
- 39:35Speaker 3: I mean, you can easily adulterate that test. You can
- 39:38Speaker 3: buy you know, literally, you know, at a smoke shop.
- 39:42Speaker 3: You can go and buike, buy fake urine. Right, you
- 39:44Speaker 3: heat it up in the microwave. It's got a little
- 39:46Speaker 3: temperature strip on it. Make sure that it's within range,
- 39:50Speaker 3: and boom, right if it's a non if it's not
- 39:52Speaker 3: a what's called a monitored test, all she has to
- 39:56Speaker 3: do is slip that in the cup. Right, There's it's
- 39:59Speaker 3: not that difficult, Dan, Nancy. It really is.
- 40:01Speaker 1: Why do you put urine in the microwave? And why
- 40:04Speaker 1: do you even know that max minor?
- 40:07Speaker 3: Well, because listen, right, when you collect a specimen, it
- 40:10Speaker 3: has to be within a certain temperature range. And so
- 40:13Speaker 3: they've got this nice little timperature strip on it, right,
- 40:15Speaker 3: and as long as it falls between ninety and one
- 40:18Speaker 3: hundred and two hundred and three degrees typically you're in
- 40:21Speaker 3: the clear. And you know, maybe I know that because
- 40:25Speaker 3: you know my past obviously is pretty checkered myself. So again, right,
- 40:29Speaker 3: if there's ways, if you're looking for ways to do it,
- 40:32Speaker 3: you can. But yes, to answer your question, you.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Can buy clean urine and a smoke shop. Is that
- 40:43Speaker 1: the urine you put in the microwave or was it
- 40:45Speaker 1: your own urine you put in the microwave? Oh, excuse me,
- 40:49Speaker 1: some other person sod, some other dude put it in
- 40:52Speaker 1: the microwave.
- 40:53Speaker 3: Synthetic, So it's it's what it's what's called synthetic urine. Right,
- 40:57Speaker 3: it's not it's not real. It's not you know, actual uh,
- 41:01Speaker 3: you know urine. But yeah, you could do that too.
- 41:03Speaker 3: You could literally, you know, use somebody else's you know,
- 41:06Speaker 3: urine that's clean. But yes, you can. You can go
- 41:09Speaker 3: down to the smoke shop. You can buy synthetic urine.
- 41:12Speaker 3: You can buy whatever it is you need. You can
- 41:14Speaker 3: these have the rapid detox kits to flush out your system. Yeah,
- 41:20Speaker 3: unfortunately that's the reality.
- 41:22Speaker 1: Wow. Is there a way to get out of showing
- 41:25Speaker 1: up at the duy class?
- 41:28Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there is. There's programs that exist. Uh, there's
- 41:34Speaker 3: programs that have been shut down for it's what's called
- 41:37Speaker 3: the pay to play right, and uh, you know pretty
- 41:41Speaker 3: much every criminal defense attorney. Uh, well, he knows about these, right.
- 41:44Speaker 3: I mean, this is the reality of this industry. There
- 41:48Speaker 3: are programs where you can literally pay to play, meaning
- 41:52Speaker 3: that you pay the fee and we say that you
- 41:55Speaker 3: completed the program. We're gonna we're gonna say that you
- 41:57Speaker 3: that you were here. And I've seen it where people
- 42:01Speaker 3: have come in, clients have come in to try and
- 42:04Speaker 3: and I'm sure Troy is seen this as well, come
- 42:07Speaker 3: in to try and basically pass off a you know,
- 42:10Speaker 3: a letter of completion. Well I looked at the this
- 42:13Speaker 3: was from one of my h someone was trying to
- 42:15Speaker 3: work with us, and I said, wait a minute. This
- 42:17Speaker 3: program was shut down five years ago for this, for
- 42:21Speaker 3: this exact type of behavior that I'm describing to you.
- 42:23Speaker 3: So yeah, unfortunately, that is the reality, Nancy. This is
- 42:28Speaker 3: what this is what's going on.
- 42:30Speaker 1: Dave mac, Crime Stories, investigative reporter. I've had people that
- 42:35Speaker 1: actually would strap the urine sample to their leg, tape
- 42:40Speaker 1: it to their leg to get it to the body
- 42:41Speaker 1: temp to submit it. I want to give you the
- 42:45Speaker 1: last word, Dave mac.
- 42:46Speaker 6: Nancy, I have to explain to the first thirty days
- 42:49Speaker 6: of attempting sobriety, it's a roller coaster. The first ten days,
- 42:55Speaker 6: your body is revolting against you and fighting against you
- 42:58Speaker 6: every step of the way. It's the blitz creak on
- 43:01Speaker 6: your system emotionally, psychologically, physically. And at seventeen days, Brittany
- 43:07Speaker 6: is still experiencing that. What comes next is a pink cloud.
- 43:11Speaker 6: Is all that stuff gets out of your body and
- 43:12Speaker 6: you start feeling normal or human again. You start feeling
- 43:16Speaker 6: emotions you haven't felt in years because they've been suppressed.
- 43:19Speaker 6: These are all the things that await and my hope
- 43:23Speaker 6: and my prayer is that Brittany will find somebody in
- 43:27Speaker 6: the program that can surround her, can really really provide
- 43:31Speaker 6: her with what she needs to accomplish a sober experience.
- 43:39Speaker 6: You know, it's different than just stopping using alcohol or drugs. Nancy,
- 43:42Speaker 6: that's a dry drunk. Almost anybody can do that. To
- 43:45Speaker 6: actually live a sober life is to change all of
- 43:48Speaker 6: your patterns, all of your life, and to actually stand
- 43:51Speaker 6: on your own two feet. Hearing her tell her children
- 43:54Speaker 6: to respect her, well, why would they. She's acting like
- 43:58Speaker 6: a child. She needs to be the adult in the room,
- 44:00Speaker 6: and she can. It's possible, and it's my hope and
- 44:03Speaker 6: dream for her is this wake up call. We'll drive
- 44:05Speaker 6: her into where she needs to be next.
- 44:09Speaker 1: Our hopes and prayers for Britney Spears tonight, hoping there
- 44:14Speaker 1: will never be a victim of her drunk driving. If
- 44:19Speaker 1: you need help, please dial Alcoholics Anonymous officiated eight hundred
- 44:26Speaker 1: nine three four nine five one eight repeat eight hundred
- 44:30Speaker 1: nine three four nine five one eight or Mother's Against
- 44:34Speaker 1: Drunk Driving offers help toll free eight seven seven M
- 44:39Speaker 1: A D D H E l P eight seven seven
- 44:43Speaker 1: six two three three four three five. Tonight, we remember
- 44:50Speaker 1: an American hero, the famous slash infamous Ted Turner, who
- 44:57Speaker 1: created a cable empire, and I would like to report
- 45:02Speaker 1: gave me my chance at a hill in Never once
- 45:07Speaker 1: did I pass him in the hall or even on
- 45:09Speaker 1: the street that he didn't stop me. Wish me well
- 45:13Speaker 1: knowing my name and all about what we were covering
- 45:17Speaker 1: a man that important, that big in the industry, to
- 45:21Speaker 1: know that's small of a detail and encourage someone like me,
- 45:27Speaker 1: Ted Turner, GODSPEEDE. Thank you to our guests, but especially
- 45:32Speaker 1: to you for being with us tonight. Nancy Grace signing
- 45:35Speaker 1: off for tonight, but I'll see you tomorrow night, and
- 45:37Speaker 1: until then, good night for