Latest / The Bootleg Kev Podcast / #8 - Dave East
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- 1:23Speaker 1: dope episode tonight. Shout out to Dave East for coming
- 1:28Speaker 1: to La, sitting down with me and having an amazing conversation.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Dave's is obviously lyrically one of the top dudes in
- 1:35Speaker 1: the game. Just been grinding the last ten years man,
- 1:39Speaker 1: doing this thing. I would say I probably learned of
- 1:40Speaker 1: Davis twenty twelve and he's just been at it. So
- 1:43Speaker 1: shout out to Dave East. And on a on another note, man,
- 1:48Speaker 1: just a really horrible week for me. If you're listening
- 1:51Speaker 1: to this on Apple Music or Spotify, it's a little late.
- 1:54Speaker 1: I've just been out of it because I had someone
- 1:56Speaker 1: to jack me last week. Someone followed me from the
- 2:00Speaker 1: bank man hit me for about thirteen fourteen thousand dollars
- 2:06Speaker 1: in cash, and on top of that, took my backpack
- 2:09Speaker 1: with my laptop and camera, a bunch of stuff. So
- 2:12Speaker 1: I've just been honestly, man, I've just been in a
- 2:15Speaker 1: horrible space, horrible vibe since that happened. That happened last Wednesday,
- 2:22Speaker 1: So yeah, it happened in Burdbanks. So shout out to
- 2:25Speaker 1: the bastards who caught me slipping. Had some chick at
- 2:28Speaker 1: the bank as a lookout for people who were leaving
- 2:31Speaker 1: the bank with a lot of money, and then they
- 2:34Speaker 1: followed me from the bank to another location and hit me.
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- 3:20Speaker 1: Dave East, episode number eight of the bootleg Kept podcast.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Let's go What's up. Man, I saw you, Like I
- 3:29Speaker 1: want to say, right before the whole ship got shut down.
- 3:31Speaker 1: You was out here in like February early March working
- 3:36Speaker 1: on Karma three, and then everything just shut the fuck down,
- 3:39Speaker 1: world shut down. I ain't like this is the first
- 3:41Speaker 1: time I left New York. Yeah, you've been like That's
- 3:44Speaker 1: what I was awesome to say. Man, Like you're you're
- 3:45Speaker 1: usually in la a lot. It's been a while obviously.
- 3:50Speaker 1: How has uh everything that's going on and just affected
- 3:52Speaker 1: your business? Like like, like, are affected your besides having
- 3:56Speaker 1: to stay inside and all that shit just was it
- 3:59Speaker 1: was their plans is that you know touring or I
- 4:03Speaker 1: know Karma three's coming was Did anything get put on
- 4:05Speaker 1: hold or delayed because of what's happening? Yeah? I did
- 4:07Speaker 1: the Drop Survival with November. Yep. The whole month of
- 4:11Speaker 1: December we did the European tour, and then when we
- 4:15Speaker 1: came back from that, we were supposed to start the
- 4:17Speaker 1: West Coast and like, uh South and Midwest Legative Toy
- 4:22Speaker 1: were supposed to start that in March and all shut down.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Have you? Uh? I gained quarantine weight because I was
- 4:29Speaker 1: eating all kinds of I was just bored, bro. First
- 4:32Speaker 1: like month of the quarantine, I was just at the
- 4:34Speaker 1: crib bored a ship before in the morning I'd be
- 4:37Speaker 1: fucking micro waving some noodles or some shit. I know,
- 4:42Speaker 1: you're like a really healthy guy. That was your health
- 4:45Speaker 1: ever like affected? Like were you eating like eating worse? Sir? No,
- 4:49Speaker 1: just I couldn't go to the gym, so that made
- 4:52Speaker 1: it a little different doing push ups at the crib
- 4:55Speaker 1: and ship. You had to get back on pull up
- 4:57Speaker 1: and push ups at the crib the rough riders work
- 4:59Speaker 1: out to call it. Yeah, other than that, I'm heating
- 5:04Speaker 1: this thing. I'm a heating still still still still smoking
- 5:08Speaker 1: good all that. You're a pretty healthy guy when it
- 5:10Speaker 1: comes to what you put in your body. I remember,
- 5:12Speaker 1: I think the last time you came to the station,
- 5:13Speaker 1: you were drinking a bunch of random crazy juice. Oh yeah,
- 5:16Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta gotta watch what you put in
- 5:21Speaker 1: your body. I feel like, if you want to be here,
- 5:23Speaker 1: at what point in time did you start to like
- 5:25Speaker 1: give a fuck about your health and like started to like,
- 5:28Speaker 1: you know, do some research about the you know, getting
- 5:30Speaker 1: into the juice and shit, and like probably when my
- 5:34Speaker 1: daughter was born, so like twenty sixteen, so I was
- 5:37Speaker 1: what like twenty six I was. I was drinking lean
- 5:40Speaker 1: a lot at that time. Right, what I'm saying, I
- 5:42Speaker 1: was heavy on a lean and I don't know, I
- 5:46Speaker 1: just went through like that was like the first time
- 5:48Speaker 1: a drug affected me. You know what I'm saying. I
- 5:50Speaker 1: never did no other drug. But that should me waking
- 5:53Speaker 1: up sweats or that. If I didn't have it, I'll
- 5:55Speaker 1: be mad, Like that is a drug, you know what,
- 5:58Speaker 1: right you'd be like, oh shit, this is this Really
- 6:00Speaker 1: I really could become that guy I understand. Fiend Like
- 6:04Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I get it, Like you know what
- 6:05Speaker 1: I'm saying, you be needing it. So once I was
- 6:07Speaker 1: able to shake that, I didn't want to do nothing else,
- 6:10Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like nothing, I've been on
- 6:11Speaker 1: champagne and weed. Champagne and weed. You do drink a
- 6:14Speaker 1: lot of champagne everything. Every time I see you have
- 6:17Speaker 1: a bottle, I mean, look at it. I don't even
- 6:20Speaker 1: know what time it is. What is it three? You
- 6:23Speaker 1: know why? Because it don't. I mean, if you drink
- 6:25Speaker 1: enough of it, you'll be twisted. But it's a you know,
- 6:27Speaker 1: just keep you in a good it's a good vibe.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Have you all look at you bet? Yeah? I mean
- 6:31Speaker 1: for me, every time I drink champagne, I just feel
- 6:33Speaker 1: bloated as fuck. Then I ain't gonna front lately, I
- 6:36Speaker 1: guess because I drink a lot of I've been feeling
- 6:38Speaker 1: like heartburn like something here. See that. It's that. And
- 6:42Speaker 1: you're also getting older too. We're getting old, bro, you
- 6:46Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Karma three, I know you've been
- 6:49Speaker 1: working on it. You've put out man a few a
- 6:51Speaker 1: few videos. The Karma series is, you know, I think
- 6:56Speaker 1: an important part of your career and your legacy. What
- 6:59Speaker 1: what is the coach to this project and just that
- 7:04Speaker 1: series in general? When you know that like something's gonna
- 7:06Speaker 1: go in that Karma series, Like, do you approach it differently? Yeah?
- 7:10Speaker 1: I feel like it's more uh me, or like more
- 7:14Speaker 1: of more of me, not really caring about like the
- 7:19Speaker 1: standards sort of, you know, or I need this type
- 7:21Speaker 1: of record, or I need this that just beat me
- 7:23Speaker 1: just in my own zone, working with different producers and
- 7:28Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, get some gift constantly let
- 7:32Speaker 1: people know I could rap what y'all fell in love
- 7:36Speaker 1: with me for from the beginning. Yeah, I'm always shock
- 7:38Speaker 1: with that. So I feel like the Karma Karma series
- 7:41Speaker 1: gives me opportunity to to kind of mix it up,
- 7:45Speaker 1: you know, have some big records on there, but then
- 7:47Speaker 1: have some ship for the streets, has something for the
- 7:49Speaker 1: fans that that's into that, that's into what I do.
- 7:52Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I was gonna say, did
- 7:54Speaker 1: you feel okay? Because when you first came out, man,
- 7:57Speaker 1: I remember being like, yo, this dude was like hearing
- 8:00Speaker 1: your early ship. Like I remember finding you on two
- 8:02Speaker 1: Dope Boys early on and uh and that was what
- 8:08Speaker 1: you were known for. And then ladies discovered you and
- 8:11Speaker 1: now to change the game plan and now and now,
- 8:14Speaker 1: well now you're you know, shout out to all the
- 8:16Speaker 1: women that are all of a sudden listening to some
- 8:18Speaker 1: like some dav ship that they would have never have
- 8:21Speaker 1: listened to before in their entire fucking life. But because
- 8:24Speaker 1: you're Dave's and you're their man crushed Monday, you're bringing
- 8:28Speaker 1: them into that world. Like what did do you remember
- 8:31Speaker 1: when you noticed, like you be you were becoming like
- 8:34Speaker 1: a thing with the with the women. Oh yeah, me
- 8:36Speaker 1: after perfect Chris Brown. When I first linked with Chris
- 8:42Speaker 1: Brown and that went like public, it was over it changed,
- 8:48Speaker 1: It changed up. I g ship everything. It switched up.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Not that it was bad before, but you know, after
- 8:55Speaker 1: after you got a record with Breezey, it might it
- 8:58Speaker 1: might change. Would you say that? I think most of
- 9:02Speaker 1: the people who are fans of your music right are
- 9:06Speaker 1: probably like me or you know, the homies, right because
- 9:09Speaker 1: the kind of shit you make. But would you say
- 9:11Speaker 1: your fan base as a whole now probably encompasses more
- 9:15Speaker 1: women than anything. Yeah, I feel like coming in, like
- 9:19Speaker 1: you said, it was more you were like a breath
- 9:22Speaker 1: of fresh air to hit the hip hop the people
- 9:24Speaker 1: that loves lyricism, like that crowd. Then it transitioned into
- 9:29Speaker 1: the girls, and then I start doing the acting. So
- 9:32Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of my fan base is
- 9:35Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of my fan base might
- 9:37Speaker 1: not even know my music or that's what I was
- 9:39Speaker 1: gonna ask. Yeah, I think I feel like some people
- 9:41Speaker 1: just follow you because, OK, they're just trying to like,
- 9:43Speaker 1: you know what, Come on what I'm saying, it don't
- 9:46Speaker 1: hurt it, don't hurt me at all. No, I mean,
- 9:49Speaker 1: and obviously I'm sure it. Hey, you'll take any following
- 9:54Speaker 1: you can get, man, especially in twenty twenty, talk about
- 9:58Speaker 1: like I just saw was it? Last month? There was
- 10:01Speaker 1: this narrative going around on Twitter that you you're bad
- 10:04Speaker 1: at picking beats? Did you see that? I don't even
- 10:07Speaker 1: be on Twitter, but you know I think somebody did.
- 10:09Speaker 1: They tagged like they put it they posted on Twitter
- 10:11Speaker 1: and then they tagged me in it on Instagram. Well
- 10:13Speaker 1: what's what's interesting about that? First of all, I don't
- 10:15Speaker 1: agree with that, but second of all, you nas Co
- 10:19Speaker 1: signed you and and the big hang up on nas
- 10:22Speaker 1: historically is that he's bad at picking beats. What do
- 10:26Speaker 1: you think do you think? I think people are there
- 10:28Speaker 1: for the lyrics, same thing with nas, but do you
- 10:31Speaker 1: think you have a good ear for beats or do
- 10:32Speaker 1: you think? Yeah? You know what's funny about that post?
- 10:35Speaker 1: I know it was one beat. It was like some wow,
- 10:39Speaker 1: and I was on my Instagram live like just freestyle
- 10:42Speaker 1: into the ship. But the beat was just some loud
- 10:44Speaker 1: ship that somebody loaded up and it sounded crazy. No
- 10:46Speaker 1: I heard it sounded crazy. It took that and it
- 10:49Speaker 1: was like, oh, his beat selection is hard, like, man,
- 10:52Speaker 1: go listen to my music man bad beat selection. Hey,
- 10:55Speaker 1: I don't think Na's got bad beat selection. It's just
- 10:58Speaker 1: it's what you're into he let Chris web produced a
- 11:00Speaker 1: few beats that he could He probably could have kept
- 11:02Speaker 1: on Chris Weaver's laptop. You know, I know you're a
- 11:07Speaker 1: big sports guy. NBA being back is a blessing, especially
- 11:12Speaker 1: for me, who I gamble a lot. So that a
- 11:16Speaker 1: gift and a curse that ugh? Oh yeah, like what
- 11:19Speaker 1: am I supposed to gamble? Bookies? Old? I know. That's
- 11:21Speaker 1: been a tough time. Korean baseball, like Bill for real,
- 11:25Speaker 1: that that was actually happening. Korean baseball was the only
- 11:27Speaker 1: thing going on. But how how they gonna do that?
- 11:30Speaker 1: Like they gotta we won't watch it from home. You
- 11:32Speaker 1: can't go to the games that they doing that. What
- 11:34Speaker 1: are we talking about the NBA or Korean baseball? Just
- 11:37Speaker 1: sports in general? Yeah. The bubble. They got the bubble popping. Oh,
- 11:42Speaker 1: I'm all the way out the loop. What the hell
- 11:44Speaker 1: is the bubble? Really? Yeah? We can't go watch them?
- 11:48Speaker 1: Yeah on TV. Oh, but you can't be at the
- 11:51Speaker 1: game of course. Not that's weird. They got the bubble
- 11:54Speaker 1: in Orlando, so everybody is in uh a contained space
- 11:59Speaker 1: in Orlando Disney World. So they have all yeah, every team,
- 12:03Speaker 1: twenty two teams, the other teams that did. They just
- 12:06Speaker 1: didn't make it, but all the games are going to
- 12:09Speaker 1: be played there and they can't leave, Like like okay,
- 12:12Speaker 1: Lou Williams left for family reasons, and then they found
- 12:18Speaker 1: him at he was in Magic City two nights ago
- 12:20Speaker 1: in Atlanta eating hot wings with Jack Harlowe. So now
- 12:24Speaker 1: he's got a quarantine for like ten days before you
- 12:26Speaker 1: can go join the Clippers again. The Clippers are trying
- 12:29Speaker 1: to win a fucking ring and Lou Williams is eating
- 12:31Speaker 1: hot wings in a magic City. It's crazy. But and
- 12:34Speaker 1: then like there was like some you know, you know,
- 12:37Speaker 1: I mean, come on, dudes, are gonna try to sneak there.
- 12:39Speaker 1: We're talking NBA players here. They're gonna try to sneak
- 12:41Speaker 1: the bitches on into the bubble. Some some known Instagram's
- 12:45Speaker 1: thought here in La was posting pictures inside of the
- 12:48Speaker 1: bubble and Instagram Instagram by like like point of Elimination
- 12:55Speaker 1: found the only NBA player that was following her and
- 12:57Speaker 1: realized that's who she was there to see. And yeah,
- 13:00Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah, basketball is a wild Well I was
- 13:04Speaker 1: gonna ask you, like, what are you? I mean, you
- 13:05Speaker 1: don't even know what's going on. I was lost with
- 13:08Speaker 1: that one. And you know what, I kind of heard
- 13:10Speaker 1: something about that my boy Brick Brick was telling me
- 13:13Speaker 1: about that. But how they can't leave. Yeah, it's crazy,
- 13:16Speaker 1: like a camp for some ship. They can't straight up,
- 13:18Speaker 1: that's crazy, super crazy. Yeah, the bubbles. Uh, we were
- 13:22Speaker 1: talking off off off camera. You were telling me, Benny
- 13:24Speaker 1: the Butcher's on Karra three, shout the Benny shout Old
- 13:30Speaker 1: Griselda Conway, what's not gonna with them? Yeah, I was
- 13:33Speaker 1: gonna say, like, I do feel like there's, you know,
- 13:38Speaker 1: a small group of artists and you're in that group
- 13:41Speaker 1: that I've kind of kept this rap shit alive for,
- 13:44Speaker 1: you know, for for guys like me, for people who
- 13:46Speaker 1: really appreciate bars and that grimy ship. And I feel
- 13:49Speaker 1: like Griselda has you know, Griselda shout out to Freddy
- 13:52Speaker 1: Gibbs and mad Lib and you know, there's just been
- 13:53Speaker 1: a lot of dope shit going on in hip hop
- 13:55Speaker 1: the last few years. But I do feel like it's
- 13:57Speaker 1: starting to become like all the weirdo internet ship is
- 14:01Speaker 1: starting to die out and it's getting back a little bit. Man.
- 14:07Speaker 1: You know, like Griselda got nominated for Best Group of
- 14:09Speaker 1: the Year to be a TA Awards, which is crazy.
- 14:11Speaker 1: So they're paying attention to what people saying again, and
- 14:13Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's it's great for you because
- 14:15Speaker 1: you've you know, you've always done that. I mean, like,
- 14:18Speaker 1: you know, I think you've dabbled in some more radio
- 14:20Speaker 1: type ship over the last few years, obvious, but you've
- 14:23Speaker 1: never left your sound. And I never was in this
- 14:27Speaker 1: ship for the Cloud or nothing like that. I feel
- 14:29Speaker 1: like that was the wave for the last like five years.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Like this cloud. It's the worst ever you could do
- 14:35Speaker 1: to get something right, Like you know what I'm saying,
- 14:36Speaker 1: Like I just now all these guys are falling off.
- 14:39Speaker 1: J Cole said the best right about little pumping those
- 14:42Speaker 1: guys and now these like and and now what happened
- 14:45Speaker 1: like smoke purpose five thousand units at it. You can
- 14:48Speaker 1: get in this ship make enough money to even if
- 14:51Speaker 1: you if you're smart with your money, if you're smart,
- 14:54Speaker 1: if you get it, even if your ship is some
- 14:55Speaker 1: trash year those bags sad with that brand, these motherfuckers
- 15:02Speaker 1: buying lean and and all kind of crazy ship. Yeah,
- 15:07Speaker 1: I focused on the music. Man that the ship that
- 15:09Speaker 1: got me got me here, you know what I mean?
- 15:11Speaker 1: The music what is obviously working with Benny on the project.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Who else is on Carmen three? Uh? I got a
- 15:20Speaker 1: Popcorn on there record with Popcorn, I got Mary J.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Bligh ship and Mary got a joint Trey songs. Uh huh.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Trying to think who was rapping on dough. I got
- 15:36Speaker 1: Dope Boy on there. We just shot the video matter
- 15:39Speaker 1: of fact, a couple of days ago out here. Think
- 15:44Speaker 1: you know the expectations for that Merry record as gonna
- 15:48Speaker 1: be crazy since you played method man, it's one of them.
- 15:53Speaker 1: But you played mathe Man in the in the show
- 15:55Speaker 1: on you know what I'm saying, saying, yeah the whole
- 15:59Speaker 1: yeahbody from Wu Tang on the on the project. Nah,
- 16:02Speaker 1: I ain't not this one, not this one. It's crazy.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Me and Meth got a new record though static selective Static.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Is that guy in Meth going crazy on that ship.
- 16:12Speaker 1: He got to put that out though, status a static record.
- 16:14Speaker 1: Static got the record, Yeah, yo, Static man. I just
- 16:17Speaker 1: want to give some props to him because he's like
- 16:18Speaker 1: our modern day primo bro and he's been one thing
- 16:21Speaker 1: I could salute, salute the status. He's from day one,
- 16:24Speaker 1: always been like the same way with me, like before
- 16:26Speaker 1: the na situation. He was always in tune with me,
- 16:30Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the static. I just saw
- 16:33Speaker 1: you were shooting a video of Jstone. Yeah, we're doing
- 16:35Speaker 1: another one today. I'm locking in. We're putting a little
- 16:38Speaker 1: little little project, little a little ep, you know, because
- 16:41Speaker 1: you know me, and it was gonna do on, you
- 16:43Speaker 1: know what I mean. Guarantee we was was already talking
- 16:45Speaker 1: about that. So I'm gonna do I'm doing. Yeah. Shout
- 16:49Speaker 1: out to Stone man. I think I think you know
- 16:52Speaker 1: he was always like slept on for sure, and Stone
- 16:56Speaker 1: are good, just a good, good nigga, you know what
- 16:57Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I just just vibe like we uh
- 17:00Speaker 1: we vibe good, you know what I mean. And the
- 17:02Speaker 1: and the music, y'all hear the music. That's why I'm
- 17:05Speaker 1: just just trying to knock out. How many records you
- 17:07Speaker 1: guys got that right now? I think we maybe like
- 17:10Speaker 1: three or four, three or four in. We shot the
- 17:13Speaker 1: video the other day, uh in his hood, and then
- 17:16Speaker 1: we shoot him one today. You you and Nipsey were
- 17:19Speaker 1: supposed to do a project. I remember we talked about
- 17:20Speaker 1: that before. Did you guys have any music that you
- 17:24Speaker 1: that that's just sitting on a hard drive somewhere that
- 17:26Speaker 1: y'all never released. How many unreleased songs do you think
- 17:28Speaker 1: you got? Nick? Maybe three? It's one with me and
- 17:32Speaker 1: him and being on whover put out with being overdel
- 17:36Speaker 1: being on Calma three two that was another shout out
- 17:38Speaker 1: to Beano Bino's Fire by jam Uh and then me
- 17:44Speaker 1: and him got two two joints. I had one record
- 17:46Speaker 1: that I was gonna put on Calmba three. But yeah,
- 17:49Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, like, is it is it?
- 17:51Speaker 1: Obviously you're tight with his team, but like, is it
- 17:55Speaker 1: like kind of weird putting something out with your like
- 17:57Speaker 1: with him after he passed. You know what I'm saying,
- 17:59Speaker 1: I feel like super weird, Like the the the excitement
- 18:05Speaker 1: is going behind it. I'm still excited to do it,
- 18:08Speaker 1: and you know, let it be known that we did
- 18:10Speaker 1: that and created that. But the phone call because red
- 18:14Speaker 1: a job, like, oh that's going you know, I mean,
- 18:16Speaker 1: so it's it's definitely weird. You. I think a lot
- 18:19Speaker 1: of people have always kind of said, you're kind of
- 18:22Speaker 1: like what Nip is to what Nip was to La,
- 18:25Speaker 1: to your hood, to Harlem, right to to like New York.
- 18:29Speaker 1: Somebody who is like a man of the people. Somebody
- 18:31Speaker 1: who's never really damn, I got my ring tone on
- 18:35Speaker 1: un professional, but somebody who uh who? You know, when
- 18:41Speaker 1: I think of Davies, I never ever ever thought of
- 18:44Speaker 1: goofy ship or I think of integrity. I think of
- 18:48Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to music, when it just
- 18:49Speaker 1: comes to you as a person, like what was you know?
- 18:52Speaker 1: Obviously you know you've done a ton of interviews since
- 18:56Speaker 1: Nipsey past, but we're going on a year and a
- 19:00Speaker 1: half since he died. What is the one thing you
- 19:03Speaker 1: think since he passed that you've carried with you and
- 19:07Speaker 1: that you're like, like from nip to this day because
- 19:10Speaker 1: you know, shit, man, I can't even believe it's been
- 19:13Speaker 1: a year and a half. I would say, just his
- 19:18Speaker 1: model marathon, you know what I'm saying, Like the shitty
- 19:21Speaker 1: lived by the shit. He always said, don't stop, you
- 19:24Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, no matter what what come
- 19:26Speaker 1: your way, you gotta keep keep rolling, you know what
- 19:30Speaker 1: I mean. In the fact of ownership and turning your
- 19:35Speaker 1: brand into a business and and just being more than
- 19:37Speaker 1: a rapper, you know what I mean. So that's what
- 19:39Speaker 1: really stuck with me the most, and just trying to
- 19:42Speaker 1: build my brand from just being Dave East, you know
- 19:45Speaker 1: what I mean to where that shit being something else.
- 19:47Speaker 1: I want to build an empire. Have you been dabbling in,
- 19:49Speaker 1: like getting involved in other like avenues, like like other
- 19:54Speaker 1: streams of revenue coming in outside of music. Yeah, I've been.
- 19:57Speaker 1: I've been heavy on the designer to I just I
- 20:00Speaker 1: just dropped a pair of glasses, did a collabe with
- 20:03Speaker 1: a company called New Vintage. I got the clover line
- 20:08Speaker 1: on the way. Besides from the merch I'm doing for
- 20:10Speaker 1: the Coma three, So I got my own line coming.
- 20:13Speaker 1: I'm about to drop a cognac based like a liquor Yeah,
- 20:19Speaker 1: like a but not but it's gonna be like a
- 20:24Speaker 1: like almost like a soda almost like it's not something
- 20:26Speaker 1: that you ain't gonna be taking shots of it, like
- 20:28Speaker 1: you could say. So it's like a pre mixed drink
- 20:30Speaker 1: like yeah, but it's gonna be a coonnac base. So
- 20:32Speaker 1: when you pull up to the liquor store, it'll be
- 20:33Speaker 1: already be in the fridge like you just crack it open. Okay.
- 20:37Speaker 1: So I've just been trying to, you know, use my
- 20:42Speaker 1: brand and what I done got my name to to
- 20:44Speaker 1: just jump into other avenues, you know, what I'm saying,
- 20:46Speaker 1: other avenues I can make money off of, and you know,
- 20:49Speaker 1: just build that future for my daughter, you know what
- 20:51Speaker 1: I mean, for my team without me rapping, like the
- 20:54Speaker 1: rap won't do what to do? You know what I'm saying.
- 20:56Speaker 1: And then the rap got me into acting, you know,
- 20:58Speaker 1: I mean sort of the rap has shown me what
- 21:00Speaker 1: it could do, but now I want to see what me,
- 21:03Speaker 1: being a more of an entrepreneur could do acting wise.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Obviously the Hulu shit was fire, but what else I know?
- 21:10Speaker 1: I know you watched, yeah, me and my I finally
- 21:12Speaker 1: got my wife to watch it, but she I told
- 21:15Speaker 1: her with some Wu Tang ship and I tried to
- 21:16Speaker 1: get her to watch, you know, the Wu Tang documentary
- 21:18Speaker 1: that came out on Showtime show. My wife don't give
- 21:20Speaker 1: a fuck about Wu Tang clan, right, so I put
- 21:22Speaker 1: it on and it's a documentary. This was like what
- 21:24Speaker 1: you know? And she just left the room. She's like,
- 21:27Speaker 1: you could watch that's what the actual I'm gonna go upstairs, right,
- 21:30Speaker 1: she don't give a fuck about Wu Tang. But I
- 21:32Speaker 1: put the show on and I didn't tell her it
- 21:34Speaker 1: was about Wu Tang until about thirty minutes in and
- 21:38Speaker 1: she was like, Oh, this is good. It's just a
- 21:40Speaker 1: TV show, so yeah, I like how they set that
- 21:43Speaker 1: up though they make you know, I mean you got
- 21:44Speaker 1: to watch it really and even like I didn't even
- 21:47Speaker 1: know like a lot of the stuff, like like like
- 21:51Speaker 1: and then also just had I had to figure out
- 21:53Speaker 1: everyone else. I was like, because because they're not just
- 21:56Speaker 1: like the actual like everyone's names are different than the show.
- 21:59Speaker 1: I was like, wait, who the fuck is this guy?
- 22:01Speaker 1: I knew, I knew you were method man obviously, but yeah,
- 22:03Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was good man. But are
- 22:05Speaker 1: there other acting roles or have you you have any
- 22:07Speaker 1: other things coming out? Because I know that I'm sure
- 22:09Speaker 1: that the entertainment game in general is on hold. We're
- 22:12Speaker 1: supposed to have been doing season two already. I mean,
- 22:15Speaker 1: but the Pandemic, you guys are supposed already start shooting it.
- 22:19Speaker 1: Huh damn, You're gonna have to start doing these acting
- 22:24Speaker 1: bubbles like the you know, like because when you think
- 22:26Speaker 1: about it, so many people on a set, so many people.
- 22:30Speaker 1: There's so many people on a set, So I don't see,
- 22:33Speaker 1: I don't I can't in the future even see when
- 22:36Speaker 1: that's gonna be free to do again. You know what
- 22:38Speaker 1: I mean, even shows I sold anything on TV. You
- 22:42Speaker 1: watch movies, concerts, like, shout out to all the Southern
- 22:50Speaker 1: rappers who don't give a fuck right now because they're
- 22:53Speaker 1: still running around getting bags in the South. Some of
- 22:56Speaker 1: these cities in the South do not care. Get your money,
- 22:58Speaker 1: put your masks on. We'll get your rod wave out
- 23:00Speaker 1: here getting it right now. I'm like, bro, what random
- 23:03Speaker 1: city in Georgia is he doing? Go get your money?
- 23:06Speaker 1: Did you see Boozy hosting the pool party? I ever
- 23:09Speaker 1: see that? Oh my god, you know what it is.
- 23:12Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it's as many cases that
- 23:17Speaker 1: have been proven, it's one hundred percent believable. What's going on?
- 23:21Speaker 1: I had it just so you know, yeah I had it.
- 23:23Speaker 1: Me and my wife got it. Well you know why,
- 23:25Speaker 1: because I was a stupid ass. I went back to
- 23:26Speaker 1: Scott Stale and yeah, I just couldn't smell her taste, damn,
- 23:32Speaker 1: like like like legit. I thought I was tripping. And
- 23:36Speaker 1: you know, my my my dog's got a little puppy
- 23:38Speaker 1: pad and he took a ship and I was like, yo, fam,
- 23:40Speaker 1: I'm ana smell. I'm a good down on the floor
- 23:42Speaker 1: take away for this dog ship and see if I
- 23:44Speaker 1: just smell nothing, did the fuck what you're breathing at all? No.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Towards the end, when I was starting to kick it,
- 23:50Speaker 1: there was like a forty eight hour period where I
- 23:52Speaker 1: just was fatigued. When I got through that and then
- 23:54Speaker 1: I you know, my smell was coming back, and then
- 23:57Speaker 1: I went and got doubled. You know, I got two
- 23:59Speaker 1: negative tests results in a row. And yeah, but yeah,
- 24:02Speaker 1: no I could. I mean I also asked for I
- 24:04Speaker 1: literally went into a club full of people in Scottsdale,
- 24:07Speaker 1: scott Still for a while, Arizona did not give a either.
- 24:10Speaker 1: You went to club See, that's what they could do
- 24:11Speaker 1: New York like like a no clubs all that's here's
- 24:17Speaker 1: the thing is And not everybody's on the block again.
- 24:20Speaker 1: It's block parties, cookouts, you know what I mean. That's
- 24:23Speaker 1: the new ship, people getting the Airbnb just throwing parties.
- 24:27Speaker 1: Do you feel like, do you get into the conspiracy
- 24:29Speaker 1: aspect of like ship, like not even just COVID, but
- 24:32Speaker 1: just in general, do you like I think it's something else?
- 24:35Speaker 1: Beh honest, I don't think this is like I feel
- 24:37Speaker 1: like this is all like it's something else going on,
- 24:39Speaker 1: Like what I have no idea we never know. It's
- 24:42Speaker 1: like they always do some ship, then some other shit happened,
- 24:44Speaker 1: like oh, you know what I mean, because if you
- 24:46Speaker 1: think about it, this is my opinion. When all the protesting,
- 24:50Speaker 1: what's going on? God bless the dead George Floyd. When
- 24:54Speaker 1: all that happened and everybody was protesting, nobody, you didn't
- 24:56Speaker 1: see nothing about heard the word COVID one hundred at
- 25:00Speaker 1: least a month straight and I even heard the word.
- 25:03Speaker 1: And there's people, some people everywhere protesting. Police was packed
- 25:08Speaker 1: a hundred cops everywhere, Like so then you know that
- 25:11Speaker 1: dies that died down, and then and then they're saying
- 25:14Speaker 1: all these cities cases that went up. You know what
- 25:17Speaker 1: I mean, They're still protesting, it's just not on the
- 25:18Speaker 1: news the hype around it and died down unless it's
- 25:22Speaker 1: some wild violent crazy like Portland that's on the news.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Because in Portland is crazy going down, Like anyway it's
- 25:28Speaker 1: going down. To show you that Seattle, Seattle they had
- 25:31Speaker 1: that little area, did you like, did Seattle they had
- 25:33Speaker 1: like a little the protesters. My little brother live out there.
- 25:37Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, there was a ship called the
- 25:39Speaker 1: Chats Zone and they shut it off from police like
- 25:42Speaker 1: a whole area of Capitol Hill and it was like
- 25:45Speaker 1: you couldn't go in and out unless it was wild.
- 25:48Speaker 1: That's going down. They said that they you know that
- 25:50Speaker 1: that flame is set, so it's on. But if it
- 25:54Speaker 1: ain't going, if it ain't like something, they don't want
- 25:56Speaker 1: you to feel like they need this show, they ain't
- 25:58Speaker 1: gonna show you. Well, they ship. They just admitted the
- 26:00Speaker 1: Pentagon just admitted the UFOs are real. It was in
- 26:04Speaker 1: Washington Times this week. Yeah, they knew. I hadn't seen
- 26:07Speaker 1: alien the two with my motherfucking life. You know what
- 26:10Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, obviously outside of Custy's. You know
- 26:13Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I know how to see some ship
- 26:16Speaker 1: like for Men in Black Men and that ship. Oh yeah, yeah,
- 26:20Speaker 1: they admitted the aliens and all that shit. Have you ever? Uh,
- 26:23Speaker 1: they probably know them. I know you you the last
- 26:26Speaker 1: time we talked to you. Oh yeah, God, I think
- 26:30Speaker 1: they got aliens at work, probably definitely on, probably in
- 26:32Speaker 1: contact with I wouldn't put that past none of that
- 26:36Speaker 1: government ship. They got aliens of work, bro, I'm telling you,
- 26:38Speaker 1: they got motherfuckers that work for the government. Every what
- 26:41Speaker 1: do you think every fifty one is these motherfuckers live
- 26:44Speaker 1: on base bru crazy. It's I'm telling you, we go
- 26:48Speaker 1: see that. They're just preparing us slowly. I think if
- 26:50Speaker 1: Trump loses, before he loses, he's just gonna fuck everyone's
- 26:54Speaker 1: life up and be like, guess what aliens are real?
- 26:58Speaker 1: I'm out you gonna tell them to pop out? All right,
- 27:00Speaker 1: y'all can pull up now? Yeah, pull up? Fuck this
- 27:03Speaker 1: ship I lost lost. There's gonna be a bunch of
- 27:06Speaker 1: aliens come through this. Uh, Dave, I'm curious. I know
- 27:09Speaker 1: the last time we talked, we were talking about it
- 27:11Speaker 1: was either your the lean ship or you had about
- 27:15Speaker 1: with pills where you said your your your thing wasn't
- 27:17Speaker 1: working up to speed. It went viral. Yeah, yeah, this
- 27:22Speaker 1: amp ship. I'm curious. Drug wise, Uh, have you ever
- 27:28Speaker 1: tried any hallucinogenics, like any mushrooms or d m T.
- 27:33Speaker 1: You've done shrooms? Like? How was like? You did it twice?
- 27:37Speaker 1: What we were what were you experiences? Like? Uh? I
- 27:41Speaker 1: had I had two good trips. I never had a
- 27:43Speaker 1: bad trip, so both of them was cool. But it
- 27:46Speaker 1: was like, uh, I felt the first time I did it,
- 27:49Speaker 1: I felt too high and I couldn't go to sleep.
- 27:53Speaker 1: I was trying to like, you know, you try to
- 27:55Speaker 1: sleep some ship off, I couldn't go to sleep. Usually
- 27:57Speaker 1: when you eat stuff, you can't sleep it off. I
- 27:59Speaker 1: couldn't sleep, So that had me. That was the only
- 28:02Speaker 1: part of the ship had me Panican like, y'all can't
- 28:04Speaker 1: go to sleep. But I was cool. And then the
- 28:07Speaker 1: second time I did it, I was like, did you
- 28:09Speaker 1: see some ship? Like I feel like some people like
- 28:12Speaker 1: they say, what you just colors, that's the that's the
- 28:14Speaker 1: only thing like a lot of people have, they say
- 28:16Speaker 1: they all the walls was mel I ain't see all
- 28:18Speaker 1: that ship that color. That might have bugged me up.
- 28:20Speaker 1: But the colors like all of like like in this room.
- 28:23Speaker 1: If I did that ship in here, all these colors
- 28:25Speaker 1: would have like did something, would like glare more like.
- 28:29Speaker 1: That's all that ship did to me. But I was like,
- 28:30Speaker 1: I ain't see no elephants or wasn't no midges running
- 28:34Speaker 1: out the room. You gotta go out to Joshua Tree
- 28:36Speaker 1: and you gotta do d MT. Man, is DMT that ship?
- 28:41Speaker 1: See you fear pressure man? You hear about a bread
- 28:44Speaker 1: some bread new ship last fifteen minutes, it's it's uh,
- 28:49Speaker 1: that's some Jim that's some Jimmy Hendrick shit. It's the dyametic.
- 28:52Speaker 1: What is it? Yeah, yeah, in your brain when you
- 28:57Speaker 1: were born and when you die, this chemical gets released
- 29:01Speaker 1: d MT, right, and there's a toad that sweats it naturally,
- 29:06Speaker 1: so motherfuckers will take and you you it's really some
- 29:09Speaker 1: crackhead shit, low key right, So you free based no no, no,
- 29:14Speaker 1: but it's like you're not smoking crack, but you are
- 29:17Speaker 1: free basing DMT for sure off a toad, off of
- 29:20Speaker 1: a toad's yeah, you put it on, like yeah, it's
- 29:22Speaker 1: it's it's it's wild. But like it's like fifteen minutes
- 29:25Speaker 1: of like you just leave the you leave earth for
- 29:28Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and then fifteen minutes later you come back
- 29:31Speaker 1: and your life might be changed. Hey we gotta get
- 29:35Speaker 1: some DMT. Bro, let's do. Hey, look I'm down. Next
- 29:38Speaker 1: time you're in LA, we'll get aj turns up over
- 29:41Speaker 1: there and listen. What's the long term effects of that? Nothing? Nothing? Nothing.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Mike Tyson's whole life is changed because of DMT. You know.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Mike Tyson's like, you know, back on his ship because
- 29:51Speaker 1: of d MT. He smokes the toad man with him
- 29:55Speaker 1: and Roy Jones, I don't know. Honestly, I'm not. I'll
- 29:58Speaker 1: say this. I I haven't paid a lot of attention
- 30:01Speaker 1: to what Roy Jones's got going on, but Mike Tyson
- 30:04Speaker 1: looked like I got Tyson, no disrespect to Roy. I
- 30:06Speaker 1: got Tyson knocking him the fun out Me too, bro,
- 30:11Speaker 1: knocking him the fuck out the fuck out, like the
- 30:16Speaker 1: fuck out. Because if you think about it, even if
- 30:20Speaker 1: you were to take them both at their peaks, Tyson
- 30:23Speaker 1: is a heavyweight. Bro is still on. He's a heavyweight
- 30:27Speaker 1: like Roy Jones was never I mean I think he
- 30:29Speaker 1: I think towards the end of his career he dabbled
- 30:31Speaker 1: in the heavyweight division. I always loved his style when
- 30:36Speaker 1: I was a kid because he was Tyson. And then
- 30:39Speaker 1: you just see the way Tyson is being looking Bro,
- 30:42Speaker 1: I ain't. I don't know, Bro, I think Tyson is
- 30:45Speaker 1: going to take that. Dude's who you got, Nate Robinson
- 30:51Speaker 1: or Jake Paul that's the undercard, the YouTube kid or
- 30:55Speaker 1: Nate Robinson who used to play for the Bulls and
- 30:57Speaker 1: the Knicks. Yes, so Nate Robinson. Do you remember Nate
- 31:01Speaker 1: Robinson n W the Dunk Contest. So he's fighting the
- 31:04Speaker 1: YouTuber Jake Paul. I'm not familiar with the YouTuber. He's
- 31:08Speaker 1: this little white dude. He's a little uh and they
- 31:10Speaker 1: and they boxing the boxes and he's boxing that and
- 31:15Speaker 1: that's the undercalled or the Tyson and Roy Jones fight. Yes,
- 31:18Speaker 1: crazy world we're living in, right, I'm gonna go with
- 31:20Speaker 1: Nate ro I don't know about the YouTube. You gotta
- 31:22Speaker 1: go and Nate Robinson looks like a like a miniature
- 31:26Speaker 1: fifty cent Nate Robins. I think you we was like
- 31:30Speaker 1: five foot eight or some ship winning dunk contest. Shout
- 31:33Speaker 1: out to day Robinson. Are you Are you still sucking
- 31:37Speaker 1: with the Knicks at this point in life? I don't
- 31:39Speaker 1: know what's going on with them. I respect that, man.
- 31:42Speaker 1: It must be nice to not know what's going on
- 31:44Speaker 1: with sports. I don't know what's going on with I
- 31:45Speaker 1: wish my bank account wishes that I didn't know what
- 31:48Speaker 1: was going on with sports. For sure, you didn't get twist.
- 31:51Speaker 1: Nobody got advice though, Yeah I don't. I'll say this.
- 31:55Speaker 1: I'm not an alcoholic. I'm not a drug addict. I
- 31:59Speaker 1: do enjoy gambling like weed. Weed, a solid, good, good weed,
- 32:05Speaker 1: California weed. Do you think there's such thing as because
- 32:09Speaker 1: you know how like people say, you can't fuck up pizza.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Is bad weed? Even good weed just because it's weed.
- 32:16Speaker 1: That was that was like a doctor Shou's question, say that,
- 32:19Speaker 1: will ask me that. So it's bad weed. It's bad
- 32:23Speaker 1: weed good anyway, just because it's just weed, or is
- 32:26Speaker 1: there bad it is bad? We just like, oh no,
- 32:29Speaker 1: there's horrible weed. That's like no point in even smoking,
- 32:33Speaker 1: Like why would you bring this to me? Is weed?
- 32:35Speaker 1: Like but will it get you high? No? So the
- 32:38Speaker 1: horrible weed won't okay, not if you've been smoking great weed, Like,
- 32:42Speaker 1: it ain't gonna do nothing for you at all because
- 32:43Speaker 1: I know some people. So there's we that's crazy. Feel
- 32:48Speaker 1: it's just gonna. It's just gonna. When's the last time
- 32:52Speaker 1: let me ask you something. You're obviously in different cities
- 32:55Speaker 1: all the time, and it's hard to like you pull
- 32:57Speaker 1: up to a random city, Oh, I bring my weed
- 33:01Speaker 1: with me. You breathe the weed unless I come to
- 33:02Speaker 1: l All because yeah, because you can just go to
- 33:04Speaker 1: the store. It's the only place in the world where
- 33:07Speaker 1: I won't bring weed anywhere else I go. I'm bringing
- 33:10Speaker 1: weed because it's not gonna be guaranteed. I run into
- 33:13Speaker 1: some good weed. What is the best way to fly
- 33:16Speaker 1: with weed outside of Yeah, I know, Whiz used to
- 33:19Speaker 1: stuff it in like theodoran sticks. Like you would just
- 33:23Speaker 1: gut the odorance, make a big I would get caught.
- 33:26Speaker 1: I mean you just totally like, I mean, no, I
- 33:29Speaker 1: just pack it. You know, the regulation has changed flying
- 33:32Speaker 1: out of lax, well out of lax. I'm talking about
- 33:34Speaker 1: let's say you're going to Birmingham, Alabama. Uh, they don't
- 33:38Speaker 1: be on you like that. It's about how you move
- 33:40Speaker 1: into like you know you you do it in the
- 33:42Speaker 1: carry on or the check it. Yeah, you gotta check
- 33:44Speaker 1: it right walk through. I don't I'll be nervous to
- 33:46Speaker 1: walk through the ship with But of course I check
- 33:49Speaker 1: the fucking dogs everywhere. But you know what I learned
- 33:51Speaker 1: them dogs is not sniffing for weed. No they're not.
- 33:53Speaker 1: They don't care. They're sniffing for bombs. Drove me fucking nervous.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Like yo, that dog does not give a fuck if
- 33:59Speaker 1: you got weed. That dog gives the fuck if you
- 34:00Speaker 1: got force blunt on the way to the airport, I
- 34:03Speaker 1: got a whole fucking half a bud in the bag
- 34:07Speaker 1: and he got this big ass dog right here He
- 34:10Speaker 1: just cares if you got a bomb. That's all he
- 34:11Speaker 1: cares about. Didn't even pay me no mind. That said,
- 34:13Speaker 1: I'm good. Damn. What is the timeline for you and Jaystone? Ship? Uh?
- 34:19Speaker 1: Ship whenever that ships done? Because Karma three's coming out
- 34:22Speaker 1: August fourteen, fourteen. And then I got I got Calmer
- 34:27Speaker 1: three fourteen. Me and Statish Pete doing beloved too. We
- 34:31Speaker 1: about to do that again. You bring that back around.
- 34:34Speaker 1: That was that was too fun. Stouts PI had a
- 34:36Speaker 1: very underrated twenty nineteen. You know, he put out a
- 34:40Speaker 1: lot of quality hip hop last year. That's my guy
- 34:43Speaker 1: right there, that's big bro. Hey, we got to take
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- 36:04Speaker 1: August fourteenth, Beloved two and then a Jstone project and
- 36:08Speaker 1: I'm doing one with Mary Mary Jake doing the album,
- 36:11Speaker 1: a whole Mary J Blige album. Yeah wow, yeah, like
- 36:15Speaker 1: maybe three or four records right now. Talk about that
- 36:17Speaker 1: chemistry because Mary is a legend. So I mean, obviously,
- 36:20Speaker 1: I mean just to do one song where it would
- 36:22Speaker 1: be amazing insane, But no, that's you know what, that's
- 36:24Speaker 1: one of them, like you such a fan of somebody,
- 36:26Speaker 1: or you didn't grew up on somebody in music, or
- 36:28Speaker 1: you've been just you know, chun thing in them so long.
- 36:33Speaker 1: It's fire. Like you know what I'm saying, Like it
- 36:35Speaker 1: just put me in another zone, knowing who I'm working with,
- 36:38Speaker 1: knowing the legacy she already got in the fact that
- 36:40Speaker 1: she even got to bring bring out that that reasonable
- 36:44Speaker 1: doubt on the one bad boy Mary, when you hear
- 36:47Speaker 1: that you're going she she on Mary on some shit.
- 36:51Speaker 1: You were just shooting a video in LA and what
- 36:55Speaker 1: I thought was amazing. I just scrolling on Instagram. It
- 36:58Speaker 1: was a picture of you and J Coles and I
- 37:00Speaker 1: was like, cool, Yeah, that was fire. Shouts to J Cole.
- 37:03Speaker 1: It was that the first time you guys met in
- 37:04Speaker 1: my life. He like my respect level for him without
- 37:08Speaker 1: already like you know, from a far, saluted up everything
- 37:11Speaker 1: he'd do. Big fan of his music. But I would
- 37:14Speaker 1: shoot a video on Sunday he was driving Bob randomly
- 37:18Speaker 1: saw me and pulled over, hopped out. You know what
- 37:20Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was gangst a lot of people. I
- 37:22Speaker 1: know it would have been just like over up boy
- 37:24Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, and kept it pushing.
- 37:26Speaker 1: He hopped out. We exchanged numbers, you know what I'm saying.
- 37:29Speaker 1: I was a combo man. He just like I thought
- 37:31Speaker 1: he would have been man cool. You know what I'm saying.
- 37:33Speaker 1: I just told me I've didn't want to get with you,
- 37:35Speaker 1: big fan of your work, said Boomerang. Well he stopped
- 37:38Speaker 1: too because he saw you, so he must be a
- 37:40Speaker 1: fan of your When I was dope, like I said,
- 37:42Speaker 1: I never met him before. We never DMD never. That
- 37:46Speaker 1: was one hip hop connection I didn't have. You know
- 37:48Speaker 1: what I mean is have you ever previously tried to
- 37:52Speaker 1: reach out to Cole or anything? I feel like musically
- 37:55Speaker 1: you guys would mesh so well. Nah, not not not
- 37:59Speaker 1: personally or direct. I was working with y Cleff maybe
- 38:03Speaker 1: four years three or four years ago, and I know
- 38:05Speaker 1: cleft no one, and I mean we spoke about it
- 38:08Speaker 1: right and never never put it together. But honestly with me,
- 38:11Speaker 1: I like, when ship like that happened, rather than somebody
- 38:15Speaker 1: connecting it just letting having that ship, I'd rather just
- 38:18Speaker 1: meet you or we just be at the same place,
- 38:20Speaker 1: same time, and then naturally you know what I mean?
- 38:23Speaker 1: That was dope. Yeah, that's fire. And then did with
- 38:26Speaker 1: DMX was there too. As soon as j Cole pulled off,
- 38:29Speaker 1: DMX hopped out. I said, damn, this is the same corner.
- 38:34Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the corner of the bill. This
- 38:36Speaker 1: is the corner. Shout out to DMX, man, GMx got
- 38:39Speaker 1: that dad boy popping right now? That's the X. How
- 38:43Speaker 1: was that the I mean, I'm assuming have you linked
- 38:44Speaker 1: with X X lock locked? Then I met actually met
- 38:49Speaker 1: X with Swiss Swiss Beats back in New York. But yeah,
- 38:52Speaker 1: I've been around X a few times. X man cool.
- 38:55Speaker 1: I saw GMx is I think he's working on on
- 38:56Speaker 1: the album right now. You watched the verses whatever Snoop? Yeah, though, man,
- 39:01Speaker 1: they shouldn't have put X against Snoop. That was good
- 39:04Speaker 1: for the coach, it was. It was I think some
- 39:06Speaker 1: of those battles, it's like it doesn't matter who wins,
- 39:09Speaker 1: like Riser Verse Primo, it didn't matter who won. It
- 39:12Speaker 1: was like, yo, it's Riserverse Primo. Like you just want
- 39:14Speaker 1: to watch, just enjoy, Like who gives a fuck? Who
- 39:17Speaker 1: will to watch it? Yeah? They're talking like I think
- 39:20Speaker 1: the next the Rick Ross two chains one just got
- 39:22Speaker 1: locked in, which would be crazy change. Yeah, Swiss Chains
- 39:26Speaker 1: got some records. I think. I think a lot of
- 39:28Speaker 1: people will say Ross, but I think you got Just
- 39:31Speaker 1: when you just said that, I thought about it, Change
- 39:33Speaker 1: got some. Of course, I've already thought about it. I've
- 39:35Speaker 1: already thought in my head when he was boy, who
- 39:38Speaker 1: could beat two change change joints? Think about all the
- 39:41Speaker 1: features though nice feature game is a feature run was
- 39:45Speaker 1: crazy crazy? Yeah, that'll be wild, like I might have.
- 39:49Speaker 1: He might have the meanest feature run in hip hop history,
- 39:52Speaker 1: either him or Wayne. Wayne had that run to like
- 39:54Speaker 1: always crazy. But I think it's changed. Change was on everything, everything, body, mercy.
- 40:00Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's gonna be a good one.
- 40:04Speaker 1: I I saw you saw Juicy J challenge your man
- 40:07Speaker 1: Nods to a versus battle Uns. No, I mean it's
- 40:11Speaker 1: not gonna happen because that'd be ridiculous. I don't No,
- 40:14Speaker 1: I don't see it either. That's a wild thing to do.
- 40:16Speaker 1: If you're Juicy J to challenge nas. Come on, bro,
- 40:19Speaker 1: but who do you I mean obviously besides jay Z?
- 40:22Speaker 1: Like who if you if you had to. You know,
- 40:24Speaker 1: you have a close relationship with nas, Like, who do
- 40:26Speaker 1: you think would be a dope opponent to see to
- 40:29Speaker 1: battle him? Uh mm hmm, that's coold. Damn, that's tough.
- 40:36Speaker 1: I almost feel like it would have it would have
- 40:42Speaker 1: to be him, I was to say it, it almost
- 40:45Speaker 1: have to be him in hope or somebody like would yeah,
- 40:50Speaker 1: or someone like Snooper d m X one of those
- 40:52Speaker 1: like yeah, like like anas and and Snoops ing would
- 40:56Speaker 1: have been dope. I would have been dope. Uh I
- 41:00Speaker 1: think yeah, I would say, oh, bro, it would have
- 41:05Speaker 1: to be that would be that would be the most
- 41:06Speaker 1: that would make the most sense to me for them
- 41:08Speaker 1: to do, because that's who's that always been that rivalry. Hey,
- 41:12Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Dave. You're a stellar MC,
- 41:15Speaker 1: You're one of the jedis. What song did you get
- 41:20Speaker 1: back from somebody who sent you a feature that made
- 41:23Speaker 1: you either a want to change your verse, change your verse,
- 41:26Speaker 1: or be like, you know what, I'm just gonna have
- 41:28Speaker 1: to hold the l on this song if ever? Uh
- 41:34Speaker 1: uh Forbes list, Okay, the first record I deal with, YEP,
- 41:42Speaker 1: that was a crazy record. I wanted to change my verse,
- 41:44Speaker 1: but I just say, you know what, I'm a rock
- 41:46Speaker 1: because you know what it is with me. I like
- 41:49Speaker 1: respect the the sport, you know what I mean? So like,
- 41:53Speaker 1: if that's the verse you laid, that's the verse you laid, Like,
- 41:56Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, let's we if we do
- 41:57Speaker 1: it together, we do it together. But I have I
- 41:59Speaker 1: did that verse is probably to him recording it, and
- 42:02Speaker 1: then he sent that back and I was like, did
- 42:04Speaker 1: you know that NAS was gonna get on it when
- 42:06Speaker 1: I told me no, when I laid my part. No, no,
- 42:08Speaker 1: no, no no, That's what I'm saying. If you would have
- 42:10Speaker 1: if you would have known that, then I probably would
- 42:11Speaker 1: have did a whole another verse. But that was just,
- 42:13Speaker 1: you know, that was what he picked. And then he
- 42:15Speaker 1: was like, it was up with that. I'm playing the records,
- 42:17Speaker 1: he said, So with that one, I'm like, all right,
- 42:21Speaker 1: and he burnt that ship. He was crazy. I'm like,
- 42:23Speaker 1: oh man, but I'm like, you know what is NAS? Like?
- 42:26Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, let me ask you something.
- 42:29Speaker 1: There's a what I'm gonna do. There's a big I
- 42:31Speaker 1: feel like there's a big community of people who think
- 42:35Speaker 1: it was written. Is NAS's best album that I've been
- 42:37Speaker 1: seeing come to the forefront. Lightly, I'm an nomadic guy. What,
- 42:41Speaker 1: in your opinion, is Nas' best album? It was written?
- 42:45Speaker 1: Okay to me that that's more my my time, you know,
- 42:50Speaker 1: Ellmatic Affirmative Action is one of my favorite NS workers ever. Yeah, crazy,
- 42:54Speaker 1: like a Z kicked that bitch off something crazy, crazy,
- 42:57Speaker 1: just that whole beat selection on that see they talk
- 42:59Speaker 1: about beats, the message it was written. You're talking about
- 43:04Speaker 1: beat selection. I think the beat selection. I just think
- 43:07Speaker 1: the beat selection portion of career started like after later later,
- 43:11Speaker 1: because you listen to God's Son and the beats are
- 43:13Speaker 1: fucking crazy. But like hip hop is dead, there was
- 43:16Speaker 1: a few that you were like, okay, well, like you
- 43:20Speaker 1: know what you know? Yeah, but I would say it
- 43:23Speaker 1: was written. I do think who do you think is
- 43:25Speaker 1: got the best of ear for beats? If we're talking,
- 43:27Speaker 1: I think Ross my opinion, Ross got one of the
- 43:29Speaker 1: hardest for beats. Ross got a good ear for beats.
- 43:33Speaker 1: Uh kids got a good ear for beats. To kiss
- 43:40Speaker 1: Jada definitely got a good I think who else? Mm hmmm.
- 43:53Speaker 1: I fel like Weeze always had a good head for
- 43:55Speaker 1: beach to Wayne for sure. Have you ever considered something
- 44:00Speaker 1: that I think that's been dope lately is artists doing
- 44:06Speaker 1: full projects with producers, right, So, like Freddy did Mad
- 44:10Speaker 1: Live Shit, then he did the Alchemist project. Conray did
- 44:13Speaker 1: a whole project with Alchemists. I think it'd be super
- 44:18Speaker 1: dope to just hear you do just lock in with
- 44:20Speaker 1: one producer cohesive album. Is that something you've ever considered?
- 44:24Speaker 1: You know? It's crazy with that. I got like maybe
- 44:28Speaker 1: three of those in the works right now, Like I
- 44:30Speaker 1: just sain't like all the way like got in that
- 44:33Speaker 1: bag just because of the other music I'm working on.
- 44:35Speaker 1: But Shouston, Mike and Keys, we're doing the project just
- 44:39Speaker 1: they producing the whole thing. They actually did Handsome and
- 44:42Speaker 1: Minutes off Coma three. I linked up with them through
- 44:46Speaker 1: nep yep uh a Rap Music. We got maybe seven records.
- 44:52Speaker 1: It's just straight a rap, you know what I mean.
- 44:54Speaker 1: And Booting Grants that's my home team. He did and
- 45:00Speaker 1: work doing all my ship for years. So I was
- 45:02Speaker 1: gonna say I would like three, maybe three different tapes.
- 45:05Speaker 1: I think, Yo, you gotta like, I would just love
- 45:07Speaker 1: to hear you lock in just with like just nothing
- 45:11Speaker 1: but just you know, Razor blades on Ikea fucking plates
- 45:15Speaker 1: leads I key or like maybe like no, who ain't
- 45:18Speaker 1: got with yet that I'm down to get with out.
- 45:20Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was gonna say an Alchemist project,
- 45:23Speaker 1: but I've been not like even I've been in tune
- 45:26Speaker 1: with them tape like I love them tapes Action Bronson
- 45:28Speaker 1: was doing with him, Oh my god, you know, like
- 45:30Speaker 1: all them tapes is because just the way he put
- 45:33Speaker 1: a project together. Action was really good at working with
- 45:35Speaker 1: whole producers because he would do some ship with party
- 45:37Speaker 1: supplies or yeah, actual producer and like, yeah, but you
- 45:41Speaker 1: know what it is with me, I feel like that
- 45:44Speaker 1: would that would make an ill sound just because I've
- 45:46Speaker 1: always had three beats from this producer, two beats from
- 45:50Speaker 1: this producer from this, but like there's always been a mixture,
- 45:53Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's definitely something I'm
- 45:54Speaker 1: gonna do. That's something I'm working on now, but that's
- 45:56Speaker 1: coming up. Do you have a relationship with Alchemists? Yeah? Yeah,
- 46:00Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yea be big Man was my guy.
- 46:03Speaker 1: Have you and Primo ever worked together? Yea, Primo's on
- 46:06Speaker 1: the inshore of Survival? Oh that's right that we talked
- 46:09Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, but he didn't do the beat right,
- 46:10Speaker 1: he just did did the scratching. But we got some
- 46:12Speaker 1: We got Me and Primo I think got two records
- 46:15Speaker 1: because I went to his studio to actually do a
- 46:18Speaker 1: record for Survival and we laid that. But then once
- 46:22Speaker 1: I got the record and the rest of the songs
- 46:24Speaker 1: for the album, it didn't mess. But yeah, that's the
- 46:28Speaker 1: big broh. Yeah, when you like, uh, when it's a
- 46:32Speaker 1: premo beat, do you feel the same type of expectations
- 46:34Speaker 1: as like as as as if you know it's like
- 46:36Speaker 1: you're getting on the record with nas exactly same. Like
- 46:40Speaker 1: That's what I feel like made me push my pen
- 46:43Speaker 1: earlier in my career. I mean like once I got
- 46:46Speaker 1: people knew about me, Like I was working with certain people,
- 46:48Speaker 1: I was like, I got the rap, I got the
- 46:51Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I got to come with it.
- 46:53Speaker 1: Each time I'm being heard, I gotta come with it.
- 46:55Speaker 1: So definitely with certain producers, like I grew up through
- 46:58Speaker 1: all of that. These this is all people that I
- 47:01Speaker 1: was reading in the Source magazine and always read you
- 47:03Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now when they fancy me,
- 47:06Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and they letting me know
- 47:07Speaker 1: that what I'm doing is dope. I got to try
- 47:09Speaker 1: to like exceed that expectation like even more, you know,
- 47:12Speaker 1: I mean I was. I just saw something online. They
- 47:14Speaker 1: were talking about how most rappers don't write down anything anymore,
- 47:18Speaker 1: and that I think it was I might have been
- 47:21Speaker 1: on on Everyday Struggle. Wayna was talking like how like
- 47:26Speaker 1: those books, like a lot of people's rhyme books one
- 47:29Speaker 1: day are going to be auctioned. You know what I'm saying.
- 47:32Speaker 1: Do you keep your rhyme books together? Do you even
- 47:34Speaker 1: write anymore? Like what's your process when it comes to
- 47:36Speaker 1: like writing, haven't wrote nine down since belove it. So
- 47:44Speaker 1: when you're recording, do you do you punch in or
- 47:47Speaker 1: you already got the verse? Like like you go line
- 47:50Speaker 1: by line? Depends. Sometimes I punch like line by line
- 47:54Speaker 1: or sometimes I have the vine. I have that shit
- 47:58Speaker 1: in my head, I mean, and then I'll even if
- 48:00Speaker 1: I got the whole rhyme, I might do like eight
- 48:03Speaker 1: me that didn't do the next eight, like you know
- 48:05Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But the writing down, I stopped writing
- 48:09Speaker 1: working with styles when me and Stass beloved that made
- 48:13Speaker 1: me put my pen up. I stopped. I mean, I mean,
- 48:15Speaker 1: I'll still jot ship down on my phone, certain little
- 48:17Speaker 1: clever little lines and balls, so I can remember it well.
- 48:21Speaker 1: I say it in my voice. Don't save it? Was
- 48:23Speaker 1: that because styles is like that? Or don't you don't
- 48:25Speaker 1: write nothing. So I'm sitting there watching that. I'm in
- 48:27Speaker 1: the boot. I'm in the in the little area with
- 48:30Speaker 1: my man days with the engineerl Pools. I'm writing the ship.
- 48:34Speaker 1: He's just walking around. He cut all the lights of
- 48:35Speaker 1: he's smoking, he's walking around, beat knocking, he's going to
- 48:39Speaker 1: move spitch twelve straight. Wait, So I gotta now, I
- 48:45Speaker 1: gotta challenge myself now. But that made me just get sharper.
- 48:47Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was and me listening
- 48:50Speaker 1: to my own music. You know, even if you don't
- 48:54Speaker 1: feel like you're reading it, you're reading it. You're right,
- 48:57Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you don't, if you
- 48:58Speaker 1: if you don't remember that, even if you write it down,
- 49:00Speaker 1: you should still memorize it before you go record it,
- 49:03Speaker 1: because if you holding it here, you you still reading it.
- 49:06Speaker 1: You know what I mean, regardless how you feel. So
- 49:09Speaker 1: I just got more emotion in my music. Do it
- 49:12Speaker 1: the other way. I'm reading it like doing it from
- 49:14Speaker 1: my mind because when I like say, I go do
- 49:16Speaker 1: a freestyle on flex or whatever, I ain't reading off
- 49:18Speaker 1: my phone that shit, I don't memorized, and I didn't
- 49:21Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So it's more emotion behind it.
- 49:24Speaker 1: It's more I know what I'm saying, like I'm not
- 49:27Speaker 1: trying to figure out what I'm about to say, like
- 49:29Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I know what I'm I'm already
- 49:30Speaker 1: knowing what I'm coming with. So it's just strong. And
- 49:32Speaker 1: then when I was listening to Jay and all these
- 49:34Speaker 1: dudes that they sit never wrote, you can hear it.
- 49:37Speaker 1: It sounds like they wasn't wrong. You could tell the
- 49:39Speaker 1: difference as when you hear shit yeah, Eminem rights, you
- 49:43Speaker 1: could tell you know what I mean? Like and I
- 49:46Speaker 1: ain't never been around Eminem, but you could just you
- 49:47Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's too you know what I mean,
- 49:50Speaker 1: You're not rapping Nobody's remember like it's that's too hard, bro.
- 49:53Speaker 1: That's still bad for like the generation of children right
- 49:56Speaker 1: now who only know Eminem for like his last three
- 49:59Speaker 1: or four hourbums. Because his new album is is Dope.
- 50:03Speaker 1: I'm not even go front that the music to be
- 50:04Speaker 1: murdered by ship was fire. The last few prior to
- 50:08Speaker 1: that were the history of for for for the future forever,
- 50:12Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, he never raps do
- 50:14Speaker 1: another song. Well, I'm curious if we're taking out accolades,
- 50:19Speaker 1: if we're taking out record sales lyrically, who do you
- 50:22Speaker 1: think is the best ever? Because I got a few
- 50:25Speaker 1: guys that I'm like, I think black thoughts in that convo.
- 50:29Speaker 1: Royce is in that convo, get busy, busy, Eminem's in
- 50:34Speaker 1: that convo obviously, but like who do you got up?
- 50:36Speaker 1: I mean nas, of course, let's go hole. There's guys
- 50:41Speaker 1: like Sean Price, God rest his soul was like one
- 50:44Speaker 1: of them dudes, you know what I'm saying, who didn't
- 50:46Speaker 1: have the record sales, but like by God, talk that
- 50:48Speaker 1: talk uh big L for show, Big L l L
- 50:56Speaker 1: was different with the how old are you da? Schemes?
- 51:00Speaker 1: Thirty one, so we're almost the same age. So I
- 51:02Speaker 1: remember as a kid, I lifestyles are the poor and dangerous.
- 51:07Speaker 1: I didn't hear until after the Big Picture dropped. So
- 51:10Speaker 1: I went to the warehouse, I bought the Big Picture.
- 51:13Speaker 1: And then there was that Napster wave. Remember when Napster
- 51:17Speaker 1: was talking. But I remember, yeah, Kaza, you would go
- 51:20Speaker 1: online and you download all these free styles, and I
- 51:23Speaker 1: remember the first time I heard the jay Z big
- 51:25Speaker 1: L free style. It was like seven minutes big L
- 51:30Speaker 1: washed stretching, stretcher, Yeah, stretching, babido. That was like but yeah,
- 51:36Speaker 1: like big L man fuck, big L was so fire
- 51:38Speaker 1: and it looked like then though like a lot of
- 51:40Speaker 1: people you see flow got they got ella later on
- 51:43Speaker 1: that back then he was talking like that, like sh
- 51:47Speaker 1: Russian piece. That was different. Yeah, well you I would say,
- 51:52Speaker 1: Andre three thousand wheezy. Uh. There's a few lyricists like
- 51:58Speaker 1: that could rap rap rap pusher. I put pushes up there,
- 52:00Speaker 1: Freddy Gibbs us up there, had a crazy career, fred
- 52:03Speaker 1: the God's son, Fred the p Yeah you know what
- 52:05Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's a few, it's a few. Yeah,
- 52:09Speaker 1: shout out to big L Man. I do feel like
- 52:11Speaker 1: we our generation always brings big L up, But I
- 52:14Speaker 1: don't feel like like kids really I put Kim in that.
- 52:18Speaker 1: I put Kim in that. Like I feel like Caim
- 52:20Speaker 1: was one of the ilis with the the like uh
- 52:25Speaker 1: like like make like he was like he had to
- 52:28Speaker 1: wave like you know what I'm saying, Like he could
- 52:30Speaker 1: he can, let you know, he could out wrap everybody
- 52:33Speaker 1: and he could play something I would enjoy. I just
- 52:36Speaker 1: I feel like him and Joel's had some of the
- 52:39Speaker 1: most unconventional rhyme schemes where they would rhyme the same ship,
- 52:44Speaker 1: like six lines in a row, but it'd still be fire.
- 52:47Speaker 1: It was. It was that was. I feel like they
- 52:49Speaker 1: they just created an error. Oh for sure, what I'm saying.
- 52:53Speaker 1: They created free Jewel Santana. Yeah, free Jewel's. They created
- 52:56Speaker 1: an era. Who I think there's three of those eras
- 52:59Speaker 1: out of New York work, at least from our life,
- 53:02Speaker 1: right because Wu Tang was popping, but we were like kids,
- 53:06Speaker 1: like real small kids. I was, man, yeah, but we're
- 53:08Speaker 1: talking d block, dipse at G unit. Those three movements
- 53:12Speaker 1: were fucking that's my that's my life. That's me right there.
- 53:15Speaker 1: That's what what I came up on. What which Which
- 53:18Speaker 1: was your favorite out of those three? Uh staus p
- 53:22Speaker 1: Personal relationship aside. Yeah, i'm a i'm a I'm a
- 53:27Speaker 1: i'n say like this. They always my favorite at different times.
- 53:32Speaker 1: So I had my time of G Unit, like when
- 53:35Speaker 1: fifty was dropping the mixtapes. I was locked into that
- 53:38Speaker 1: shit crazy, you know what I'm saying. Staves was always
- 53:41Speaker 1: my favorite rapper during even during all that time, so
- 53:44Speaker 1: I was always listening to d Block and then Dip
- 53:46Speaker 1: shit was you know what I'm saying. I actually was
- 53:48Speaker 1: around them, seeing them like yeah, all three of them
- 53:52Speaker 1: at different times, but I was, you know, I mean
- 53:54Speaker 1: I didn't I probably never would like Pick and I
- 53:57Speaker 1: mean I can say I'm personally now hosts with Dip
- 54:01Speaker 1: said in the Locks, you know what I mean? I
- 54:04Speaker 1: heard that Lloyd Banks is working on coming back. Yeah,
- 54:06Speaker 1: I had Banks on what was the project? What project
- 54:09Speaker 1: I had Banks on? What was that P two? Yeah?
- 54:14Speaker 1: To think so Banks he retired and then I'm hearing
- 54:18Speaker 1: he's another one that Yeah we're talking about back to
- 54:22Speaker 1: that list of the Yeah, put that Banks work out
- 54:24Speaker 1: that victory Lloyd Banks on that bro. There was this
- 54:28Speaker 1: like best the Lloyd Banks Volume two mixtape that I
- 54:30Speaker 1: used to sell with the Swami, that was just like
- 54:32Speaker 1: non stop, like you gotta put Banks on that list,
- 54:35Speaker 1: all of them, all them ju and free styles. He
- 54:37Speaker 1: was going crazy. I do feel like it's dope to
- 54:40Speaker 1: to see like Griselda's like I feel like as far
- 54:43Speaker 1: as a movement out of New York, it kind of
- 54:46Speaker 1: just gives me that that nostalgia. I feel like that's
- 54:49Speaker 1: what really makes like they all individually super fire, but
- 54:53Speaker 1: they they reminiscent of that those times of a group
- 54:58Speaker 1: or a crew. Each one of them is different, and
- 55:01Speaker 1: they all got a different swag, a different stab, but
- 55:03Speaker 1: they are a crew, you know what I'm saying, Like
- 55:05Speaker 1: I came out dolo, Yeah, Davies, you know what I'm saying. Like,
- 55:08Speaker 1: but when that that that crewel essence is fire, like
- 55:11Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like that, That's why I
- 55:13Speaker 1: really like be sitting back watching them because they all
- 55:16Speaker 1: individually can spit, but when they move together, it's like,
- 55:20Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it look it looks it
- 55:21Speaker 1: looks dope. It reminds you of that that that g unit,
- 55:24Speaker 1: that d block, Like you know what I mean to
- 55:26Speaker 1: remind you of that? And each of them are you know,
- 55:28Speaker 1: like west Side Gun, You're gonna get that fly ship.
- 55:31Speaker 1: They all got a different but that's what make it dope.
- 55:32Speaker 1: None of them is, none of them alike, you know
- 55:34Speaker 1: what I'm saying. With dipset, none of them was like
- 55:36Speaker 1: that's how different, and none of them was alike. You
- 55:39Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, yo, share, I feel like we
- 55:41Speaker 1: got to give styles pe his flowers while he's still
- 55:43Speaker 1: here because he's one of the all time grades. Give
- 55:47Speaker 1: us like a cool Stoles peace story. You got, man,
- 55:49Speaker 1: that that that nobody knows about, that you haven't talked
- 55:51Speaker 1: about with Pe. I got a bunch of stories with Pete.
- 55:56Speaker 1: I can honestly say this. My best friend passed this year,
- 56:00Speaker 1: King Shooter. Uh my look video out now by the way. Yeah,
- 56:04Speaker 1: that's so. But he is the only rapper. I mean
- 56:07Speaker 1: a lot of people reached out and you know, said
- 56:10Speaker 1: the condulences, but Peep he called me. He said, Yo,
- 56:15Speaker 1: pull up to the juice ball. You know what I mean,
- 56:16Speaker 1: Come let me come, let me give you a hug.
- 56:19Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, so that just showed
- 56:21Speaker 1: me a he's a you know what I mean. We
- 56:22Speaker 1: I just my vibe for him is just different, you know,
- 56:24Speaker 1: I mean, because it's beyond the rap. He really that's
- 56:27Speaker 1: really big, bro, you know what I mean. But he
- 56:29Speaker 1: was one of the only ones that did that. You know,
- 56:31Speaker 1: I mean, I got a lot of friends in the
- 56:34Speaker 1: in the hip hop industry, you know what I mean,
- 56:36Speaker 1: or or or even I think with with with like
- 56:40Speaker 1: we use that word friends in the hip hop industry.
- 56:42Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the relationships artists have
- 56:44Speaker 1: with each other it's it's they're very like finnicky like
- 56:48Speaker 1: it's almost like, you know how it is you run
- 56:51Speaker 1: into an artist somewhere, yehs break up a lot of
- 56:54Speaker 1: people you're cool for the moment. I can count on
- 56:56Speaker 1: maybe one hand people that since I came in but
- 56:58Speaker 1: I signed with tenty fourteen, that we've built the relationship
- 57:02Speaker 1: and that's my guy to this day. How's your friendship
- 57:05Speaker 1: with Nas in twenty twenty? Solid? Solid, same, same, Yeah.
- 57:12Speaker 1: I feel like Nas is one of those guys who
- 57:16Speaker 1: we like. We don't know as much about Nas as
- 57:19Speaker 1: we know about all these other legends because he is
- 57:21Speaker 1: so low key. It's like his character in Belly is
- 57:24Speaker 1: like low key, like since hearing Belly is kind of
- 57:28Speaker 1: like the way Nas is in real life, like the
- 57:30Speaker 1: more low key guy. You know, Buns was wild. But
- 57:33Speaker 1: you know, I feel like you learn in this industry, man,
- 57:35Speaker 1: when you've been in this as long as Nas. You
- 57:38Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You don't ad your little mistakes.
- 57:39Speaker 1: You don't have you slip. You understand everything ain't for
- 57:42Speaker 1: the public. Everything ain't for the world to see, you
- 57:44Speaker 1: know what I mean. You want that peace of mind,
- 57:46Speaker 1: that privacy, and that's that's some shit I be schooled
- 57:49Speaker 1: like it's getting from him. Like that's why a lot
- 57:52Speaker 1: of you don't see me in every headline, every this one.
- 57:54Speaker 1: I didn't have my little troubles here and there, but
- 57:57Speaker 1: for the most of the part, I be out the way.
- 57:58Speaker 1: Do you have you ever? We were talking earlier about
- 58:02Speaker 1: how the last like three four or five years it's
- 58:05Speaker 1: been about the clout bullshit, and I think like a
- 58:08Speaker 1: perfect example of that is like what's going on with
- 58:10Speaker 1: six ' nine right now. It's like a spectacle more
- 58:12Speaker 1: than it's about his music. But have you ever felt
- 58:15Speaker 1: any pressure? No, No No, I'm not I'm not asking you
- 58:18Speaker 1: about him. I'm just saying, like, like, have you ever
- 58:22Speaker 1: felt any pressure to like do more bullshit on Instagram
- 58:27Speaker 1: or or like just based on that, because I feel
- 58:30Speaker 1: like the entertainment industry has been in such a weird space,
- 58:33Speaker 1: specifically hip hop, because we've been seeing people who are
- 58:36Speaker 1: just Instagram guys getting record deals like actual Instagram dudes
- 58:42Speaker 1: getting signed because they have followers and shit, and it
- 58:45Speaker 1: hasn't worked out for anybody yet. The record, I got
- 58:48Speaker 1: a lot of people that ain't on Instagram, you know
- 58:49Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like a lot of my people that
- 58:51Speaker 1: I know or that I grew up with or I
- 58:53Speaker 1: be around, they ain't got Instagram pages. So ata ones
- 58:58Speaker 1: that that salute me? And you know what I'm saying
- 59:01Speaker 1: when they see me outside somewhere, like, keep doing what
- 59:03Speaker 1: you're doing, homie, Like you know what I'm saying. You move,
- 59:05Speaker 1: We like how you move, like, you know what I'm saying.
- 59:06Speaker 1: So I can't be one way like that. But then't
- 59:11Speaker 1: be a goofy on the internet, you know what I'm saying,
- 59:13Speaker 1: or just doing shit to do it like? And I
- 59:16Speaker 1: feel like everything you put on the internet is going
- 59:18Speaker 1: It is public record and it's there forever, it's gonna
- 59:20Speaker 1: be there. So my daughter grow up and see, oh dad,
- 59:23Speaker 1: he was a goof You were doing some stupid wo Like, Nah,
- 59:26Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be none of that, you know what
- 59:27Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's a lot of shit you can't help.
- 59:29Speaker 1: You get caught up here and there. But as far
- 59:31Speaker 1: as the things that's in my control. I'm never gonna
- 59:34Speaker 1: goof off. That's fair. Karma three is coming out August fourteen, fourteenth.
- 59:41Speaker 1: We're here. A whole project with Mary J. Blige is
- 59:43Speaker 1: on the way. Yeah, that's gonna be. That's different. J
- 59:46Speaker 1: Stone Project on the Way, Stone Project on the Way.
- 59:48Speaker 1: But love it too. What are you cooking? Man? That's
- 59:52Speaker 1: what the quarantine did for me. Listen, Dave, you move
- 59:54Speaker 1: like you move like an independent artist with the amount
- 59:56Speaker 1: of shit you're putting out. Hey, man, I like to work.
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: If it's one thing anybody has seen about me since
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: the day you heard the name Davies, I've been working.
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It ain't never been no
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: where anytime. It's a. It's a. It's a it's something
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: not coming out from me. It ain't got nothing to
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: do with me. You know what I'm saying. It's higher powers,
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: not because of you. It ain't because of me. If
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: it's up to me, I'm going drop. I'm gonna give
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: you music, I'm gonna give you visuals. I'm gonna give
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: you everything I could give you. You You know what I'm saying.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: Tomorrow ain't promised, so I got to go. That's how
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: I sit and watch pot documentaries and Nip all these
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: people that that that passed on and they was working
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: like they knew they was gonna go. You know what
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm not thinking in my mind I'm gonna go,
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: but I gotta leave shit here for when I do leave,
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So in the meantime, while
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: I do got while they all the girls is saying,
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: Oh he's handsome and I got my good health and
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: I'm gonna work. I ain't got time to just be Nah,
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: I made it. I'm Dave's all dropped. Next year, I
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: got to go. Let me ask you, man, I don't
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: know if you had a relationship with Pop Smoke, but
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: obviously he's from New York. Great, we got great So
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: you got some unreleased music with Smoke. But I'm curious,
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: like his passing was so tragic, man, I just I
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: talked to him the night before he died. You know
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, great kid, man, like seeing that happen. Obviously,
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: you being so close to Nip and having him passed
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: away he passed, does that affect you at all? Being
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: a public person who obviously comes from your background, and
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: be around certain certain environments. Do you do you like
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: become a little bit more protective, do you you like
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: even paranoid might even be award like like like is
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: that something where you like adjust the way you moved?
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: Because fuck man, like it's you know what's crazy about
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: that before and before that happened to him? Or that
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: my first album I dropped on paranoia, yep, And that's
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: what that was. If you go watch them interviews, that's
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: what I was talking about, the same shit that that
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately happened to them. Like, but I've been
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: felt like that, you know what I mean. It's just
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: that kind of make like scared me more. Like damn,
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: you could be that lit, you could be that known,
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like in Hollywood Hills, you
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: could be that known though, like with everybody, Like you know,
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: I'm far away from home, that far away from anybody
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: you probably got any personal beef with. But it's all
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: about how you moving, you know what I mean. That's
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: one thing I'm learning about life is like, you know,
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: some shit is just out of your control, but you
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: gotta pay it. Once you become a certain figure to
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: the world, you gotta pay attention to every move is chess.
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's not or I
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: could just you gotta really be Oh no, I can't
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: move like that. Let me send him to go do that,
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: or I gotta let me stay here, like because you
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: don't understand, Like you don't know your effect on people.
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: Most of the time you've seen people they want to
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: take pictures. You think, and it's love, But you don't
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: know how a person really knowing about you or what
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: they would do to you to get their name. What
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: Jay said, if I shoot you, I'm brainless. You shoot me?
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: You were famous? Yeah, you know. I mean that's a fact.
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, So I just use both.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: I was, like I said, right before that happened with
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: Pop Smoke, we was in the studio every day for
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: maybe six days. Yeah, talk about your's relationship. I wasn't
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: really aware that you guys were Like he was locked
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: in anytime I'd be in quality being here. He knew
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: I was in the building, coming there, come in the room.
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Me him in Trouble to
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: the record Trouble from Atlanta. In Trouble, he and Pop
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: did like three four joints. Last time we spoke, it
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: was all star. I was in Chicago, so you're coming
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: out here. He was like, Nah'm about to go to
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: La whoo. All right. You know what I'm saying, I
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: hit you want to get back to New York. That
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: shit happened. But yeah, I mean that kid was a
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: superstar even when you like just meet him, Like what
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: was something something about about him that you kind of
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: took with you in the short amount of time. You guys,
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: it was that good energy like he was he like
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: he really Uh it was one of them people that
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: liked the room up. You know what I'm saying when
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: he come in the building, Like everybody don't got that,
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: and it don't take jewelry, It don't take none of that.
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: Like some people just got that or you know what
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like Pop had that, you know what i mean.
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: He had a good oral around him, good vibe about him,
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: and you could just tell he was excited to be
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: escaping poverty, escaping the ship we come from, you know
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You could tell he was just excited
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: to be getting up out of that. So that that
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: that crushed me. You know what I'm saying that hurt.
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: I was. I'm still more than Nip thinking about Nip
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: very ever, you know what I'm saying. And then that
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: should happened, and then my boy, my boy should have
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: diedrect and this past May. So it's been these last
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: two three years been nasty as far as people you know, dying.
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: But I just I take each experience and try to
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: move or do something with it. Everything I got from
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: Nip and the time I got to be around him, fortunately,
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: I try to apply it to my life, you know
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: what I mean. Here it is, man, we look the
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: album is dropping, and hopefully we just get a lot,
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: a whole lot of music the rest of you. I mean,
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: got four videos off the album so far. Yeah. I
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: did handsome minutes, believe it or not. My low, uh,
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: my low not on it. I did. That was like
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: a tribut record for my boy. But I just shot
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: Mission featuring Jozzie. Shot that yesterday. That's going. I'm gonna
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: drop that. The data that's like the it's like the
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: first big video, you know what I mean. But mother
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: Joints is running up right now. I want to I'm
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: going now, I'm gonna go visual crazy because I'm shitting
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: on a lot of music, and it's also been hard
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: to do videos, like yeah, it's just like when the
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: world was closed up, it was you really couldn't you
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Camera crews wasn't trying to really
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: do nothing. Plus motherfuckers look at you crazy. If it March,
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: you was out of the street shooting videos and I've
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: ever cast it over had to apologize because he was
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: outside outside Shout out the cast man, Yo, Davies, appreciate you.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: Pull it up always, bro boy perfect