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Episode Two Hundred Twenty Six: Trump Melts On Tarmac · The Death Of Journalism

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to episode two hundred and twenty six of the
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  Speaker 1: Death of Journalism podcast. My name is John Sigler. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host on today's show. Trump comes to Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: to see the wildfires and hilarity ensues. Pete XSS barely
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  Speaker 1: gets confirmed, but will RFKA Junior Drone's sanity turns out
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  Speaker 1: to be a bust? My kids absurdly have school canceled
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  Speaker 1: yet again? And does the NFL have a major Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City Chiefs problem? Late last week, Donald Trump came to
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles to view for himself the devastation left by
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  Speaker 1: the wildfires from several weeks ago. And before that happened,
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of bluster about how Trump was
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  Speaker 1: going to handle this situation as the alpha male and
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  Speaker 1: the new incoming president. There were reports that Republicans wanted
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  Speaker 1: any aid to California to be connected to the resignation
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  Speaker 1: of the Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass and maybe even
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  Speaker 1: California Governor Gavin Newsom. And then before Trump made the trip,
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  Speaker 1: the conditions were that California adopt ID when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to voting and not restrict people to restrict local jurisdictions
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  Speaker 1: from not being able to use ID to determine who
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  Speaker 1: can vote and who can't. And then also there would
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  Speaker 1: be the addition of the idea that California would change
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  Speaker 1: the way that it would get its water and distribute
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  Speaker 1: its water from northern California to southern California is something
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  Speaker 1: that Donald Trump feels very, very passionately about. So there
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  Speaker 1: were all these theoretical conditions on federal aid coming to California,
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  Speaker 1: and I said on this podcast and on News Nation
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  Speaker 1: television that all of this bluster. I didn't say in
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  Speaker 1: these words, but this was essentially my message was that
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  Speaker 1: all this bluster really is classic Trump, and in the end,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna see Donald Trump act in exactly the opposite
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  Speaker 1: direction for a couple different reasons. One because Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: does tend to get mushy when he actually sees the
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  Speaker 1: reality of the situation. That's that's the first part of this.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, he can be all bluster behind his
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  Speaker 1: phone or in Washington, d C. But when he gets
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  Speaker 1: out here and he sees the devastation, it's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be the same guy. Similar to that, Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: has a self interest in this situation that I pointed
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  Speaker 1: out on NewsNation television and on this podcast that most
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  Speaker 1: people haven't really considered, which is rather obvious, and that
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  Speaker 1: is that he owns property here. He owns a house
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  Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills, he owns a rather significant golf course
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  Speaker 1: in Palace Verdes. Neither were impacted by the fire. But
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  Speaker 1: he has a self interest in Los Angeles getting back
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  Speaker 1: on its feet, especially with Los Angeles hosting many major
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  Speaker 1: events during his second term, including the Olympics in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight. So I was very confident that Trump was
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  Speaker 1: going to see it in his self interest to actually
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  Speaker 1: be the hero here. And then there's the issue of
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  Speaker 1: how Democrats, especially Gavin Newsom, seem to have figured out
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  Speaker 1: how to play Trump or manipulate him, which is obviously
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  Speaker 1: to play to his ego. And the Galvin Newsom part
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  Speaker 1: of this equation has always fascinated me. It has always
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  Speaker 1: confused me. I've talked about this many times before. There's
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  Speaker 1: a story here that has never been told and maybe
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  Speaker 1: never will be told. I think the most obvious explanation
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  Speaker 1: for why they have such an odd relationship is the
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  Speaker 1: fact that Gavin Newsom's ex wife, Kimberly Guilfoyle, was at
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  Speaker 1: one time Donald Trump's former now favorite sons fiance and
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  Speaker 1: now she's the incoming ambassador degree she's been jettison because
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump Junior has a new girlfriend. So therein lies
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  Speaker 1: the story. Now how that all plays out, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I have been exceedingly frustrated and aggravated over the fact
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  Speaker 1: that Newsom and Trump have basically stroked each other over
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  Speaker 1: the COVID response, when in fact I think they were
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  Speaker 1: both incredibly wrong, and they were in cahoots, and it
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  Speaker 1: was Gavin Newsom who really triggered the entire COVID panic,
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  Speaker 1: and Trump went along with it and got duped and
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  Speaker 1: manipulated by Newsom and Cuomo and Fauci and Burks and others,
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  Speaker 1: and it effectively ended his first term and any chance
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  Speaker 1: realistically of being re elected. And so Gavin Newsom, before
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump came here to southern California late last week,
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  Speaker 1: basically indicated that he he wasn't even invited to see
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  Speaker 1: the President and that he was just going to show
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  Speaker 1: up on the tarmac and you know, make sure that
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  Speaker 1: he heard from him directly, because it's obvious that Newsom
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  Speaker 1: understands that there's gonna be there's gonna need to be
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  Speaker 1: massive federal help if Los Angeles is ever to fully
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  Speaker 1: recover from this catastrophe. Now, I would love to know
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  Speaker 1: what the reality here was. But there was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of speculation about, Okay, what's gonna happen with Newsom standing
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  Speaker 1: alone on the tarmac and you know, he's not evenally
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  Speaker 1: invited to be there. Is Trump gonna blow him off?
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  Speaker 1: You know, how is this going to go down? There
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  Speaker 1: was there was a lot of people online, prominent people
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  Speaker 1: saying this could be really interesting. Now, my gut tells
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  Speaker 1: me that Newsom just did not show up without any
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  Speaker 1: kind of indication that Trump knew he was coming, or
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  Speaker 1: that Trump was gonna, you know, not acknowledge him on
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  Speaker 1: the tarmac, or they would have what eventually would end
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  Speaker 1: up being essentially a mutual abbreviated press conference. But here,
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  Speaker 1: to me, the importance of this, there's several elements of
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  Speaker 1: this that are significant, But the biggest importance is who
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump is and how easily manipulated he is, and
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  Speaker 1: how he's not the guy that his strongest supporters so
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  Speaker 1: fervently want to believe that he is. They believe that
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  Speaker 1: he is the ultimate alpha male, that he dominates over
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  Speaker 1: everybody else, that he is the real deal, that it's
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  Speaker 1: not just bluster, and he's basically a superhero, especially after
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  Speaker 1: not one but two assassination attempts were survived. But that's
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  Speaker 1: not the view of Donald Trump that I have, because
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  Speaker 1: if that was the real Donald Trump, here's what would
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  Speaker 1: have happened. Donald Trump would have come off of that airplane.
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  Speaker 1: He would have completely walked right past Gavin Newsom, which
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  Speaker 1: would have been a huge alpha male move. He would
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  Speaker 1: have ignored him. Newsom would have been humiliated, standing there
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  Speaker 1: on the tarmac twiddling his thumbs, playing with himself, looking
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  Speaker 1: like a complete idiot. He then would have gone to
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  Speaker 1: the microphones and Newsom would have been isolated and in
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  Speaker 1: an impossible situation. Trump had Melania with him, which was
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  Speaker 1: an extraordinary part of this. Mlania is hardly ever with him,
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  Speaker 1: but Mlania made the trip here to southern California, and
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  Speaker 1: so if Trump had done that, that would have been
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  Speaker 1: an ultimate alpha male mike drop move. That would have
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  Speaker 1: put Newsom in his place and would have been consistent
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  Speaker 1: with the view that Trump coultists have of Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not at all what happened. It's not at
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  Speaker 1: all what happened. I don't know what was planned ahead
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  Speaker 1: of time. Honestly, don't make I can't believe that Newsom
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  Speaker 1: had the audacity to do this cold with no indication
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  Speaker 1: that Trump understood that he was going to be there.
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  Speaker 1: From a photographic standpoint, this ended up working out very
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  Speaker 1: well for Gavin Newsom. His fans loved what ended up happening,
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  Speaker 1: and they ended up not only shaking hands and talking
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  Speaker 1: on the tarmac, but they then, as I've already alluded to,
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  Speaker 1: held this I guess, impromptu mini press conference where Newsom
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  Speaker 1: got to speak. This is after, by the way, Milania
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  Speaker 1: gave Newsomb a kiss, which drove me crazy. But then
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  Speaker 1: we got to the content of what was actually said,
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  Speaker 1: and this exchange between Newsom and Trump, to me is
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  Speaker 1: very telling about who Trump really is and most specifically
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  Speaker 1: and this was almost like it was designed to drive
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  Speaker 1: me insane. Newsom reference their cooperation during COVID in his
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  Speaker 1: attempt to try to phrase Trump and appeal to his ego,
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  Speaker 1: and I guess you know set the predicate for Hey,
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  Speaker 1: the federal government helped us during the COVID, a panic
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  Speaker 1: that I started. Of course he doesn't say this, and
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  Speaker 1: now the federal government will come to our aid again
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  Speaker 1: now that we've experienced these devastating wildfires. So here was
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  Speaker 1: what it sounded like when Kevin Newsome and Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: were in this impromptu press conference on the tarmac at
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  Speaker 1: the airport. When Trump came into Los Angeles late last week.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you left the bay and dry, and now we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be taking a little door. Hey, ye left
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  Speaker 2: to by and dry, and now we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: taken a little door with some of the people from
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  Speaker 2: the area. I appreciate the governor coming out and meeting me. Kevin,
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  Speaker 2: We very much and uh.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be talking a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: We want to get it picked. We want to get
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  Speaker 2: the problem picked.
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  Speaker 1: And there'll be some ways.
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  Speaker 2: But like he got hit by a bob right now,
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  Speaker 2: Like he got hit by a bob.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, you got most of portan. Thank you for being
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  Speaker 1: her meets a great deal to all of us, and
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  Speaker 1: not just the books with Palisades, the folks in Altdina
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  Speaker 1: that were devastated. We're gonna need your support, We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: need your help. You were there for us during COVID.
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  Speaker 1: I don't forget that.
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  Speaker 2: And I have all the expectations that will the other
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  Speaker 2: ones together to get this speedy recovered. Will we got
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  Speaker 2: to get it done. Tremendous numbers, your lives as been affected,
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  Speaker 2: a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of real estate's going affected.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody's ever probably seen anything like this. We can almost
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  Speaker 2: say since the Second World War?
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  Speaker 4: Would you think of it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean nothing I have happened, and we're gonna get
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  Speaker 2: it fixed. So we'll get in perpetently fixed so it
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  Speaker 2: can't happen again and again we'll be talking a little
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  Speaker 2: bit later and we'll get to work out.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: It's presid Thank you, thank you, thank.
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  Speaker 5: You very much.
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  Speaker 2: How do you have.
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  Speaker 4: How long over the past week, over what has happened
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  Speaker 4: in this state?
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  Speaker 2: How you plan to We gotta get it at time.
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  Speaker 2: We're looking to get something completed. And the way you
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  Speaker 2: get it completed is gonna work together to governing the state,
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  Speaker 2: and we're gonna get it completed. They're gonna need a
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  Speaker 2: lot of federal help. Unless you don't need any which
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  Speaker 2: could be able.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna need a lot of federal.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna take care of things.
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  Speaker 4: Can work.
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  Speaker 2: I have all the confidence of the world will work
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  Speaker 2: that out. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Now. When I saw that that I was infuriated, and
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  Speaker 1: I realized it's mostly Gavin Newsom doing the talking. But
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  Speaker 1: this is this is how Trump gets manipulated. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you appeal to his ego and tell him how great
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  Speaker 1: he is, and he melts like a candle in a blastphermace.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is who Donald Trump really is. And
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  Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom seems to understand this. Gavin Newsom, I think
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  Speaker 1: better than probably any other Democrat, maybe for the reasons
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  Speaker 1: I've already alluded to with kimber Gofoyle understands how to
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  Speaker 1: deal with Donald Trump, and he got, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: clearly got the better of that exchange. I mean, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, if Donald Trump was really who his fans
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  Speaker 1: want to believe that he is, he would have blown
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  Speaker 1: Newsome off. And that's not at all what happened. And
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  Speaker 1: instead we have Donald Trump nodding, accepting, not pushing back
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  Speaker 1: at all on the idea that they were buddies during
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  Speaker 1: COVID and you know, basically they're going to repeat that play.
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  Speaker 5: From twenty twenty twenty, you know, in twenty twenty, during
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  Speaker 5: the early part of the COVID panic, when they were
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  Speaker 5: on the same team, which is just infuriating of course,
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  Speaker 5: when you understand what really happened with the COVID panic,
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  Speaker 5: which I've talked about many times before.
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  Speaker 1: Now, obviously I'm being very critical of Donald Trump in
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  Speaker 1: the first part of this trip here to southern California.
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  Speaker 1: But then there was a second event, And this is
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  Speaker 1: where Trump is so confusing and infuriating and befuddling, because
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  Speaker 1: in a completely different set of circumstances, Donald Trump ended
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  Speaker 1: up looking fantastic, maybe the best I've ever seen him.
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  Speaker 1: So this is so classically Trump in so many ways.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I think you could literally write a book
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  Speaker 1: about what happened with Donald Trump last Friday here in
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  Speaker 1: southern California, from the bluster before the trip to melting
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  Speaker 1: like a candle in a blast furnace when faced with
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  Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom one on one to then what happened when
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  Speaker 1: there was an event in Pacific Palisades at a fire station.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like where Trump met with a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: Democrats and some Republicans and the Mayor of Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 1: Karen Bass, and he completely dominated dominated the event. And
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  Speaker 1: what ensued was frankly, incredibly telling and very hilarious. It
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  Speaker 1: was telling because Democrats were very willing to automatically and
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  Speaker 1: instantaneously transform themselves into Republicans when it came to issues
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  Speaker 1: like red tape and environmental wackoism and the restricting of
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  Speaker 1: rebuilding in Los Angeles because of the catastrophic wildfires. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was hilarious to watch Democrats all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: sound like Republicans. In fact, I couldn't even tell oftentimes
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  Speaker 1: who were the Republicans and who were the Democrats, because
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  Speaker 1: every Democrat was saying, well, you know what, we can
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  Speaker 1: abandon everything we believe in, all this craziness that has
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  Speaker 1: been part of our DNA for decades. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: abandon all that because we have no choice. Right now.
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  Speaker 1: We do not have the luxury that they didn't say this,
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  Speaker 1: but this is effectively what they said. We no longer
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  Speaker 1: have the luxury of being insane, so now we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: at least pretend to use a little bit of common sense.
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  Speaker 1: So that was hilarious. But there was also the element
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  Speaker 1: of this where we had Democrats who, at any other situation,
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  Speaker 1: especially here in southern California, would never be caught dead
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  Speaker 1: praising Donald Trump, but when they're in his presence, they're
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  Speaker 1: kissing his ass all over the place because they know,
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  Speaker 1: one it works with him, and two they know that
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  Speaker 1: federal assistance is going to be key in how California
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  Speaker 1: is able to rebuild or if California is able to
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  Speaker 1: properly rebuild from these catastrophic wildfires. And so when I
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  Speaker 1: was watching this, I mean, the whole family came in
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  Speaker 1: because this was the type of entertainment you can't get
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  Speaker 1: on television anymore to see Donald Trump completely dominate this event,
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  Speaker 1: with the Mayor of Los Angeles just a couple of
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  Speaker 1: feet away from him, looking absolutely miserable and having to
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  Speaker 1: go along with most of this, although there were a
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  Speaker 1: couple of moments where Trump and Bass actually had some
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  Speaker 1: back and forth and some conflict, and this was classic Trump,
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  Speaker 1: and I give Trump a lot of credit for what
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  Speaker 1: he said here. Now whether or not there's going to
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  Speaker 1: actually be action on it as a completely different issue,
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  Speaker 1: as it often is with Donald Trump. But here is
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  Speaker 1: just one of several situations where Trump and the Mayor
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  Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, went added specifically over this
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  Speaker 1: issue of restrictions on cleaning up, and Karen Bass basically
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  Speaker 1: got caught speaking out of both ends of her mouth saying, oh,
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  Speaker 1: there are no restrictions. Oh, but there are restrictions. And
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  Speaker 1: then Trump's saying, well, no, we're not gonna have restrictions.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna let people get back to their houses immediately
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  Speaker 1: and start cleaning up, because obviously, if you can't clean up,
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  Speaker 1: you can't start the rebuilding process. And the inertia here
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  Speaker 1: is incredibly strong, inertial inertia. The forces of inertia here
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  Speaker 1: are incredibly significant, because until you get everything cleaned up,
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  Speaker 1: you can't even get into a position to start the
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  Speaker 1: clock or to start anything in motion towards rebuilding. And
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  Speaker 1: there's this effort among the bureaucrats and the environmentalists to
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  Speaker 1: restrict that because oh, it's too dangerous. This is all
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  Speaker 1: this is very much in line with the whole you
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  Speaker 1: could ever be too safe. We have to make sure
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  Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be fine. Freedoms, you know, don't matter, Your
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  Speaker 1: property doesn't matter. We're in charge here. And so it's
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  Speaker 1: really kind of like this, this battle among Democrats here
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  Speaker 1: in southern California. It's gonna be a bizarre John Zigler
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  Speaker 1: like analogy. But if you have ever seen the movie
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Strangelove, which is one of the best movies of
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  Speaker 1: all time. The character of Doctor Strangelove is having this
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  Speaker 1: internal battle between what he wants to be externally and
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  Speaker 1: what he is in internally, which is basically a Nazi,
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  Speaker 1: And you see at the end of the movie this
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  Speaker 1: internal struggle, and I feel like that's what's happening with
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  Speaker 1: Democrats here in California. Their internal DNA is telling them
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  Speaker 1: to be environmental list whack jobs and to be restrictive
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  Speaker 1: of everything. But they're trying to put on a good
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  Speaker 1: show because they understand the political realities of this and
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  Speaker 1: where the winds are currently blowing, not the literal wins,
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  Speaker 1: but the figurative political winds are blowing, and they're basically
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  Speaker 1: saying things that are against the essence of who they are,
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  Speaker 1: which is a bunch of nutjobs when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: environmentalism and restrictions and government bureaucracy. So here is one
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  Speaker 1: of those episodes where Trump went after Bass and I
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  Speaker 1: think clearly got the better of it. Six months.
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  Speaker 2: That's no good.
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  Speaker 6: And the number one thing that we are going to
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  Speaker 6: do immediately, and you will see this happen, is to
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  Speaker 6: clear out the debris. And you know, we're concerned it
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  Speaker 6: right now. Over the weekend because of the potential rain.
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  Speaker 6: But we are going to move as fast as we can.
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  Speaker 6: But we want you to be safe and we want
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  Speaker 6: you to be back in your homes immediately.
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  Speaker 3: But the people are willing to clean out their own debris.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't cost they can. You should let them do
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  Speaker 1: it because by.
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  Speaker 3: The time you hire contractors it's going to be two years.
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  Speaker 3: If a family people are willing to get a dumpster
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  Speaker 3: and do it themselves and clean it out, and they can.
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  Speaker 3: There's not that much left. It's all incinerated, that's right,
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  Speaker 3: and you know it's just going to take a long time.
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  Speaker 3: If you do, you can do some of it. But
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these people, I know that guy right
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  Speaker 3: there that's talking. I know my people. You'll be on
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  Speaker 3: that thing tonight throwing the stuff away, and your site
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  Speaker 3: will be it'll look perfect within twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what he wants to do.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't want to wait around for seven months till
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  Speaker 3: the city hires some demolition contract and it's going to
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  Speaker 3: charge your month twenty five thousand dollars to do his lot.
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to.
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  Speaker 3: You have emergency powers just like I, and I'm exercising
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  Speaker 3: my emergency powers.
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  Speaker 1: You have to exercise them. Also.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I did exercise them because I look, I mean, you
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: have a very powerful emergency power, and you can do
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: everything within twenty four hours.
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Yes, and if individuals want to clear out their property
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: they can well, yes, but you know that you will
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: be able to go back soon.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: We think within a week. That's a long time.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: A week, I'll be honest to me, that everyone's standing
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: in front of the house.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: They want to go to work and they're not allowed
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to do it.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: And the most a week is a long people to
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: be safe.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: They're safe, they're safe, you know what, They're not safe.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: They're not safe.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Now they're going to be much safer a week. A
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: week is actually a long time the way I look
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: at it, I watched hundreds of people standing in front
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: of their lots and they're not allowed to go in.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: It's all burned, it's gone, it's done, nothing's going to
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: happen to it, not going to burn any more. There's
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: nothing to burn, there's almost nothing to burn.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: And they want to go in there.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: The people are all over the place, just standing and
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: they say, warren't you going in.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: We're trying to get a permit and.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: The permit's going to take them. Everybody said eighteen months,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: you said eighteen months, you said eighteen months. And that
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: was last night.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Now, that was not an isolated situation in this this
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: live television event where Trump was having this exchange with
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: lots of different Democrats and Republicans on both the federal
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: level as well as the local level, and where Trump
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: got the better of it. But of course I'm always
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: wondering what's real and what's you know, Trump's imaginary world,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: what's just words, and what will be put into action?
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: You know, once Trump is gone, and you know, once
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the television cameras or are no longer there, what's going
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: to happen in reality? And while it's very difficult to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: get a firm grasp on it, my sense is watching
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: local television news coverage of this situation is that so
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: far the bureaucrats are winning, that there isn't that much action.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: There's still a lot of talk, they're still talking a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: good game, but there's not a lot of action. And
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: there's been some effort on the part of even the
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: new White House Press Secretary to try to keep this
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: narrative alive that Trump is effectively ordering Los Angeles and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the bureaucrats here to drop the bullshit. Whether he really
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: has the effective authority to do that, I think no
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: one really knows, and we'll see who people are actually
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: believing in and trusting in and are abiding by. But
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: so far, I'm I was very optimistic, or or at
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: least somewhat optimistic when this whole thing happened, that the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: circumstances were Suchrthern California was going to be in pretty
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: good shape to surprise people because of the incentive structures
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: involved in this. And one of my predictions was that
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Trump would try to be the hero here, and I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: think I was vindicated in that with regard to the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: way his trip to southern California went. But on the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: other hand, I'm not seeing nearly as much action as
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you would think there would be, considering all the momentum
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and all the words, and obviously the power of Trump's
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: visit and him slacking Karen Bass and others during this
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: particular event. Now, why was Trump so good in the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: second event as opposed to the Gavin Newsom situation. I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: think some of that has to do with him being
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: intimidated by Gavin Newsom. I really do believe he is,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and I'd still believe that the Kimberly Gofoyle element of
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the story will tell a tale someday. But I think
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: that what happened here is that we's a different Trump,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: largely because this topic is right in his wheelhouse. And
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: this is part of why I was confident he was
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: not gonna be a hard ass, that he was actually
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: gonna try to become the hero here. Not only does
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: he have real estate here in southern California, but obviously
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: he's a real estate guy. It's the essence of who
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: he is. And for him to see this prime real
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: estate destroyed and him have the ability to try to
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: potentially fix it, I think is very appealing to him.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I have never seen him with a more
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: focused and a longer term focus laser focused on one
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: issue over an extended period of time. I mean, he
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: famously has an incredibly short attention span, but that was
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: not in play here. He was very into it, and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: he has knowledge of this subject with regard to real estate,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and he's dealt with the Eurocrats when it comes to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: restrictions on building, especially here in southern California, so he
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: knows the issue, and he's passionate about the issue, and
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I think he sees the self interest now in him
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: being part of the solution or being a hero in
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: this circumstance. So I have almost nothing but praise for
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Trump in the way that he handled the second event.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I'm still irritated by the whole Gavin Newsom situation, but
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: this was classic is Trump a good guy or a
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: bad guy? With Newsom he was awful, But when with
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Karen Bass and the rest, he was absolutely fantastic. And
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: it was about as good as I've ever felt about
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: President Trump. And I don't really have much of a
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: dog in his hunt. Yes, it's where I live, but
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not directly impacted by the fires. In fact,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I think they're scenarios where all sorts of federal assistants
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and the massive amounts of money that are flowing in
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: here may actually be a problem for us as we
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: try to find a new home as our kids get older.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: So this is not about my personal self interest. This
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: is me looking at this as objectively as possible and
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: seeing that Donald Trump may really be a force for
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: good here. But I am very, very skeptical still as
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to the words being transformed into reality, and I'm not
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: sure that Trump has the authority that he thinks that
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: he has. I mean, part of what he was doing
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: was acting like a king, saying, Okay, yep, let's do that.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Let's do that. Yep, we're gonna do that, as if
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you know, he was the CEO of a corporation, which
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: is something he's used to acting as well. That's really
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: not the way it works, not supposed to be the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: way it works when it comes to the presidency of
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the United States, and it's especially not the case when
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you're dealing with effectively a foreign country here in southern California,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: where the people making these decisions all hate Donald Trump,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: but now they have to kiss his ass because they
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: know they're gonna need federal aid. So that whole situation
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: was fascinating to me. I think it was very telling
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: about who Donald Trump is. I don't know what it
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: means about the reality of the sun California rebuild, but
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: it was definitely worthy of discussion on the podcast. Now,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: one of the other things that I have a particular
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: interest in that Trump did in his first days in
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: office that got a lot of publicity and a lot
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: of speculation especially online, was that he has now officially
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: released allegedly all of the files from the JFK, the RFK,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and the MLK assassinations. And you are probably aware that,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the JFK assassination, this is
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: a topic on which I consider myself to be an expert,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and in fact, I really truly believe, as audacious as
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: it sounds, that I have figured out what actually transpired
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: in the JKA assassination in a way that maybe no
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: one else ever has. And I've done multiple episodes of
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: this podcast on that theory, and that theory got a
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: huge boost after I first talked about it in great
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: detail in episode seventy one of this podcast, when a
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: former Secret Service agent by the name of Paul Landis
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: wrote a book for the sixtieth anniversary of the JKA
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: assassination last year, in which he revealed information that could
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: not have been more consistent with my theory, and without
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: getting too deeply into it, if you are interested, you
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: can go to episode seventy one. In the second half
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: of that podcast, I spent about an hour and a
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: half or more on my theory about how you do
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: not need the so called magic bullet or the single
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: bullet theory for Lee Harvey Oswald to be the lone gunman,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: and Paul landis finding the so called magic or pristine
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: bullet in the back of the limousine, which is exactly
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: where I believe it would have been, because I think
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it just fell out of Ja Kay's back and never
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: went through his body into John Connolly, the Governor of
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: texas As, had been theorized by the Warren Commission and
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: then called the so called magic or pristine or single
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: bullet theory, which has a lot of people, a ton
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: of people understandably very skeptical of the Warren Commission's conclusions,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and then once they don't accept those conclusions, they then presume, Okay,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: if they're lying about this, they must be lying about
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. There must be a massive conspiracy. And
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: this drives me crazy. It really drives me crazy, because
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: there's so many people who they understood that you don't
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: need the magic bullet theory for Lee Harvey Oswald to
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: be guilty of as the lone assassin of John F. Kennedy,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that they would probably be much more willing to accept
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the reality, which is in my very strongly that Lee
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Harvey Oswald acted effectively alone that that day, the only
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: person who participated in the assassination of John Kennedy, believe
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it or not, was Lee Harvey Oswald, and that the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Warrant Commission got the bottom line conclusion correct even while
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: they got the details incorrect because Arlen Spector, a lawyer
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: on the Warren Commission, it would later turn out to
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: be the senator from Pennsylvania, My senator from Pennsylvania when
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I was a kid growing up in Bucks County, Pennsylvania,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and then beyond that was a guy who was not
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: nearly as smart as he thought. He was always thought
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of himself as the smartest guy in the room. Thought
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: he had a problem with the timing given the Zubruder
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: film that he misinterpreted, and that's how he came up
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: with his Kockamany single bullet theory, which at the time
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: people bought mostly. But overtime has fallen apart and his
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: birth a thousand, literally one thousand conspiracy theories. And so
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: now Trump has released all these files or is in
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the process of releasing all these files. And you know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: his fans, Maga fans love this because they're convinced that
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: there was a conspiracy, and they're convinced that the fact
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: that not all the documents have been released sixty one
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: years later is evidence of a conspiracy. And this is
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: just flat wrong. Here's the bottom line of this file release.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: We are not gonna learn anything or shattering about the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: assassination of JFK. By the way, we might learn some
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: some things that the fans of Martin Luther King Junior
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: aren't gonna like. I don't know that it's just possible,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: because there's there is a lot of stuff that was
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: known and in files about Martin Luther King Junior that
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: would not necessarily be beneficial to his legacy. But I
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna find anything new about who killed
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: MLK or RFK, and certainly not JFK. And part of
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: what's happening here is there's a fundamental misunderstanding of the
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: way that these files are classified. A get I get
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: that it seems weird that there's still a small number
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: of documents that are not released to the public sixty
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: one years after the assassination of JFK. By the way,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: it should be pointed out that Trump previously promised to
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: do this and then was convinced not to do so.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: And the reason why he was convinced not to do
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: so is not because there's some great hidden secret about
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: who really killed JFK that the government has been hiding
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: for sixty one years. That that's not what's happened here.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: It has to do and this is difficult to explain
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and people don't want to understand it. But basically, the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: way I look at this is these documents are essentially
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: like ripples in water, right, So you have the initial
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: event of the assassination sixty one years ago, and then
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: there are all these ripples because this is a massive investigation,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: these ripples that are in the water for an extended
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: period of time, and then they touch other investigations and
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: other topics. But there's still the documents are still under
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the umbrella of the JFK assassination. So while it sounds
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: insane that anyone could still be protected sixty one years later,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the reality is that there are a lot of other
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: documents that probably have nothing directly to do with the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: JKA assassination that have still been kept hidden and secret
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: because there are theoretical national security concerns, whether it's for
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: an individual or whether it's in from that we have
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: about other countries or in the way that we do things.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: There are all sorts of theoretical reasons why some of
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: these documents would have been kept from the public eye
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: that have nothing to do with preventing people from understanding
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: what really happened with regard to the JFK assassination. I mean,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: these are a tiny number of documents, and so this
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: is really much ado about absolutely nothing. In my view.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: The only thing that we might find out when it
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: comes to the JFK assassination, and this would make sense
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: in my mind, and other people like Gerald Posner, who
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I've mentioned many times before, the author of the Great
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Book Case Closed, although he and I have some disagreements
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: about how it all went down, but we've had him
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: on the podcast before and he believes that about the
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: only interesting thing that we might find in this is
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: that we might find out that the government was tracking
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico and really dropped the ball
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: when it came to not understanding that he had a
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: job at the school Book Depository building, which was literally
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: on the street where the parade route had been changed
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: to go right in front of I mean that's a
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: huge error, and that would at least create an incentive
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: for the intelligence agencies to keep that as quiet as possible.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: But that's not that's not the intelligence agencies having hired
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald to do this. That's the intelligence agencies
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: botching this and not realizing that Oswald was a major
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: threat and in a position to kill the president. I mean,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: in retrospect, it's absolutely ludicrous that somebody who was on
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the radar of multiple intelligence agencies was able to be
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: in a building where the windows were open above a
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: parade route, where you know, there was an easy shot
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to kill the president. But we were living in a
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: completely different time and they're you know, there weren't computers
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and there wasn't instant communication, and it got screwed up.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: So that's one area that there could be information of
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: interest that might underline might be released because of what
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Trump did here. But by and large, he's just placating
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: his conspiracy base. His base of MAGA supporters have become
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: extremely conspiratorial in almost every way, and it's very frustrating
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to me because I'm an ardently anti conspiracy person. I
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: don't believe that human beings are capable of pulling off
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: massive conspiracies, especially in a story that's large, especially now
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that we live in the era of social media. It's
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: just insane. You know, they're used to it. At least
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: be some semblance of age where a massive conspiracy could
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: happen and the public never know about it, because all
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: you really needed was the government to be invested and
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the media to be invested or intimidated because there were
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: very few media outlets, so if you created a situation,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, it's a weird analogy that
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: just came into my head. But in England Great Britain,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: because of the power that the royal family has had
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: over the years, although in the social media age that
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: has now changed, which kind of thing goes to my point,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: there have been lots of stories that have been killed
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: because the media is intimidated by the royal family and
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: the government has invested in protecting the royal family, and
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: so you have a relatively few number of entities that
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: had to be involved in a conspiracy and they're all
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: very much motivated by the same interest. Well, social media
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: destroys that because in a social media era, the media
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: can't put a lockdown on somebody going rogue. I mean,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: my gosh, you know, in this day and age, if
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: if it could be anybody, and if they tweet their
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: story and Elon Mosk retweets it on Twitter, tens and
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: tens of millions of people are going to fight out
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: about it. So it's it's absolutely absurd that somehow a
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: conspiracy the likes of which MAGA would like to believe,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: involving the government killing JFK, for instance, could possibly survive
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: sixty one years without anybody ever copying to it or
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: providing evidence of it. And this file release isn't going
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: to change that. It's not gonna happen. So a lot
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: of people are gonna be very disappointed. There was somebody
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: put out a joke on Twitter which I thought was
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: particularly appropriate here where a conspiracy theorist goes dies and
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: goes to heaven and they ask God who killed JFK.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: And God says, oh, that's an easy one. It was
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald. He acted alone. And then the conspiracy
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: theorist says to themselves, my goodness, this thing goes way
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: higher than I ever anticipated. They're never gonna believe it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: They're never God to tell them that it was Lee rv. Oswald,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: and they're never going to believe it because they're that
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: invested in the idea that JFK was killed as part
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: of a massive conspiracy. And I get it. I get
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: why people have that inclination, because it just seems so
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: crazy that this one loan nut loser could pull this off.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: And then of course he gets killed by Jack Ruby,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: who has mob tizes, and it stinks to high Heaven.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I get it. But when you look at the facts,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and you look at this in the big picture, and
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: you think logically and you think about what would be
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the alternative scenario, there is no other scenario here that
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: makes any sense. And I believe I have figured out
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: how the Oswald scenario makes perfect sense. I understand, as
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I've already alluded to, that the single bullet theory turns
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of people off because it doesn't make a
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: lot of sense that bullets shouldn't look the way that
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: it does if it did all the damage that the
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Warrant Commission claimed that it did. I get all that,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: But I've explained it, and it's the only scenario that
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: makes any sense, and we're not going to find out
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a new scenario because of this file release ordered by
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Now, speaking of Kennedy's RFK Junior's nomination to
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: be the head of Health and Human Services is being
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  Speaker 1: debated as we speak. As I do this podcast episode
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday morning, his confirmation hearing is ongoing, and as
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  Speaker 1: of this taping, I don't know whether not RFK Jr.
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  Speaker 1: Is going to actually be confirmed. I'm not in favor
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  Speaker 1: of his confirmation because I think he's nuts, and it's
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  Speaker 1: not just because of his views on vaccines, which are concerning,
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  Speaker 1: but I think a little bit overwrought in the liberal
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  Speaker 1: news media. My bigger concerns about RFK Junior is that
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  Speaker 1: he is a crazy person. And one of the reasons
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  Speaker 1: I think he's a crazy person is that he's convinced
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  Speaker 1: that both his father and his uncle were killed by
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  Speaker 1: the government, and there's no significant, legitimate, logical evidence to
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  Speaker 1: back that up in my view, But because his name
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  Speaker 1: is Kennedy, he's given a lot of credibility on that.
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  Speaker 1: And it's clear that part of why Trump has been
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  Speaker 1: so proactive about this is because he and RFK Jr.
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  Speaker 1: Have now somehow become buddies, and theoretically r K Junior
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a significant part of his administration.
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  Speaker 1: But r K Junior, I've said as many times, believes
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  Speaker 1: lots of crazy things, not just about vaccines. He was
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  Speaker 1: a longtime heroin attic. His first wife killed herself, apparently
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  Speaker 1: at least in part due to stress of the marriage.
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  Speaker 1: He's testified under oath that worms ate his brain, and
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  Speaker 1: he's done all sorts of crazy things. And I realize
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  Speaker 1: there are people that love RFKAY Junior because they think
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  Speaker 1: he's the lone truth teller when it comes to the
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  Speaker 1: health of America. And look, I think there's some ideas
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  Speaker 1: he has when it comes to health that are potentially productive.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. I mean as far especially as far
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  Speaker 1: as our diets and how healthier healthy are some of
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  Speaker 1: our foods are. And I get that. I am. There's
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  Speaker 1: not all It's not all bad when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: RFK Junior. But the part of this that I really
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  Speaker 1: don't get it, and that I think is most telling
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  Speaker 1: with regard to how much Trump has changed our politics,
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  Speaker 1: is that he is incredibly liberal, especially on abortion. And oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, he was nowhere near as good on
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  Speaker 1: the COVID panic as a lot of people like to pretend.
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  Speaker 1: Now he was very pro lockdowns, and this idea that
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  Speaker 1: somehow he was a freedom fighter is just bullshit. That's
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  Speaker 1: not who OURFK Junior was, especially not at the start
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  Speaker 1: of the COVID panic. So I don't give him any
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  Speaker 1: credit really for being a COVID contrarian, which obviously I
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  Speaker 1: was as well. But he is incredibly liberal. The head
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  Speaker 1: of Health and Human Services has a significance say over
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  Speaker 1: abortion policy in this country. And it's absolutely astonishing that
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  Speaker 1: Republicans view RFK Junior extremely favorably, extremely favorably, and of
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  Speaker 1: course Democrats now hate his guts, which I mean, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: just a few years ago you had said to me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, RMK Junior is gonna be one of the
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  Speaker 1: most popular figures in the Republican Party and he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be hated in the Democratic Party. I would not have
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  Speaker 1: believed that, and I don't even know that I would
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  Speaker 1: have been able to come up with a scenario for
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  Speaker 1: how the hell that would happen. Even factoring in that
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  Speaker 1: the Republican Party has largely become a cult and that
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump is the cult leader, and that Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: says somebody is a good guy, then automatically they become
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: a good guy, and if they're a bad guy, they're
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: automatically a bad guy. I reference this before, but Mike Pence,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Trump's former vice president, former vice president under Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: hardcore conservative, especially on the issue of abortion, is now
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  Speaker 1: seen extremely negatively in the Republican Party. Well ArKade Junior,
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  Speaker 1: super liberal, nutjob, incredibly pro abortion, may have a role
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  Speaker 1: in abortion policy, is seen as extremely popular in the
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party and will if he gets nominated, if he
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  Speaker 1: gets confirmed, he's already been nominated. If he gets confirmed
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  Speaker 1: as the head of Health and Human Services, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be on totally Republican votes. This is an upside
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: down world, folks. This is crazy. This is nuts, And
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  Speaker 1: to me, the most significant part of this is it
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  Speaker 1: tells you everything you need to know about where we
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: are with regard to the Republican Party, what's left of
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to call it a conservative movement anymore,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think that even exists. But that to
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  Speaker 1: me proves beyond any other possible explanation that this is
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  Speaker 1: a cult. This can only happen in a cult where
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  Speaker 1: RFK Junior is super popular and Mike Pence simply because
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  Speaker 1: Trump decided he was out of the cult because he
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  Speaker 1: didn't do what Trump wanted on January sixth, twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think Pence had the legal authority to
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: do what Trump wanted on January sixth, twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: Everything's upside down. And I don't love Mike Pence, but
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  Speaker 1: Mike Pence is somebody that should be popular among Republicans
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  Speaker 1: and Trump fans. He was the face president. I hold
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Trump chose Mike Pence to be one heartbeat of an
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: older guy who's not in great physical shape to be
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  Speaker 1: president of the United States, and now he's persona non grada.
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  Speaker 1: He's the one campaigning against RMK Junior, and Republicans are
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: telling him to go pound sand because they love rm
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  Speaker 1: Kate Junior. And frankly, any movement, any party that loves
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: RFK Junior, especially in this role, that's really not for me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what this. You know, if people ask,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: and they'd still do, why don't you get fully on
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  Speaker 1: the Trump bandwagon. It's one because I have major concerns
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: about who Donald Trump is and what he'll do, especially
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  Speaker 1: in a crisis, But mostly it's to do with stuff
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  Speaker 1: like this that's not what I believe. It's not who
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  Speaker 1: I am. It doesn't make any sense, and that's an
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  Speaker 1: indication that we're dealing with a cult. It's a cult.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know whether or not RFK is going
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  Speaker 1: to be confirmed. My guess is he probably will be.
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  Speaker 1: My guess is he'll probably barely get confirmed, much like
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: what happened with Pete Hegseat. We talked a lot about
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Pete heg Say's nomination as the Defense Secretary, and as
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  Speaker 1: it turned out, he was confirmed, but by the very
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  Speaker 1: slimmest of margins and fact it took JD. Vance to
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  Speaker 1: come in and break the fifty to fifty tie because
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  Speaker 1: three Republican senators voted against Pete Hegseth, no Democrats, not
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  Speaker 1: even John Fetterman voted in favor of him. This was
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  Speaker 1: probably even closer. Well, it couldn't have been any closer.
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  Speaker 1: So it was. It was closer than even I expected
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  Speaker 1: that it would be, but for Vance to be forced
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  Speaker 1: to come in, and it almost didn't even get to
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  Speaker 1: that point. We now have learned that the senator from
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina, Republican Senator Tillis, apparently made some sort of
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: a promise to Heccess's former sister in law. And by
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the way, I made a mistake in a previous episode
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: of the podcast when I referenced this former sister in
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: law of Hexseth being on his ex wife's side of
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  Speaker 1: the family. It's actually on his brother's side of the family.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that makes a bit of a difference
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  Speaker 1: with regard to the theoretical closeness that this ex sister
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  Speaker 1: in law would have had with hexseths x one wife
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  Speaker 1: who was someone who immediately came out and said that
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: the allegations of abuse by this former sister in law
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  Speaker 1: involving her were not accurate. Ever, realize this gets complicated.
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  Speaker 1: But the reason why I'm mentioning this is one I
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  Speaker 1: made an error in the family element of this. But
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: also we now know that that former sister in law
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  Speaker 1: who came forward at the last minute with this allegation
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: that she was privy to abuse by Pete Hegseth of
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  Speaker 1: his ex wife, had been made a promise of some
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  Speaker 1: sort by Senator Tillis, Republican from North Carolina, that if
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: she came forward that it might provide the votes to
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  Speaker 1: prevent Hegseth from being confirmed as Defense Secretary. Now that
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: did not happen, and Tillis himself ended up voting for
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Hegseth effectively like every vote would have been Since it's
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty tie, you need every vote. So
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  Speaker 1: without Tillis's vote, Hegseth and his nomination would have gone
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  Speaker 1: down to defeat. Now there's been some speculation that did
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  Speaker 1: Tillis somehow hoodwink or go back on a promise of
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  Speaker 1: this former sister in law of Pete Hegseth. And I
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  Speaker 1: actually would like to give Tillis the benefit of the
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  Speaker 1: doubt here because what I think happened, and I think
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: the facts bear this out, is that this affidated came forward,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: the sister in law told her story, and then he
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: did further due diligence on it and determine overall that
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  Speaker 1: Hegseth still deserved to be confirmed. Now, how much of
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: that is politics and how much of that was based
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  Speaker 1: in what he perceived to be the truth, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: because Tillis is up for reelection in twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 1: and is already facing a potential primary challenge because people
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: are pissed off, and I don't know that this worked
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  Speaker 1: for him in either direction. I don't think that this
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: helped him with the pro hege set people, even though
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: he was essentially the deciding vote for hexsex confirmation. But
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: now he's being attacked by the pro Trump side, and
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  Speaker 1: so politically, I don't think this is going to be
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  Speaker 1: very helpful to Senator Tillis or North Carolina. But it's
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: an indication of just how close Hexseth came to not
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  Speaker 1: being confirmed as Defense Secretary, and it might also be
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: an insight into whether or not RFK Junior is able
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  Speaker 1: to get confirmed, because you're probably going to find the
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: same Republican senators that were concerned about Hegseth being on
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the fence regarding RFK Junior as well. Turning now to
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: some media related issues, I have for a very very
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: long time been telling you, as others have as well,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: that CNN was going to be engaged in significant layoffs.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: And this has not happened on the timeline that I
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: was given by a source that I've referenced many times
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  Speaker 1: in the past, a source that has been at times
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: at least somewhat accurate and other times has not been accurate.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of different factors involved in this.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: It's a very very complicated situation. Well, within the last week,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: CNN has apparently laid off about two hundred or so
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: workers from their news room. Although it's mostly on the
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: technical side, it appears to be I am told that
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: there are more so called layoffs to come. This is
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: mostly as CNN transitions to more of a digital platform.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much this has to do with
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: the theoretical movement of CNN more towards the middle when
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: it comes to their political affiliations or their biases, or
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: their attempt to go back to being a hardcore news outlet.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know that, because I've been told for actually
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: a couple of years now that this was in the works,
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  Speaker 1: that this was the plan to move CNN more towards
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: the middle, and there's been some indications of that. I mean,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo is gone, Don Lemon is gone, you know,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Brian Steutter was gone for a while and then he
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: was brought back, which was very confusing to me. And
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: now Jim Acosta has left CNN. He was one of
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the most ardently anti Trump reporters and anchors that CNN has.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: He was the White House correspondent for CNN during the
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: first Trump administration, and effectively he was given a choice,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: which was to the graveyard shift as opposed to your
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: mid morning shift, or you're out, and he chose to
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: leave effectively, or at least that's the way the story
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: is going publicly. And so Jim Acosta is gone. And
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: you know, this is now a fairly long list of
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: major CNN personalities who were certainly far to the left
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: of center, who are no longer there, which would be
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: consistent with this narrative that I have been given from
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: this source, which at times has proven to be accurate
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: and other times not that accurate. Where this is where
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: CNN is going in a more moderate direction. I don't
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: know what to make of this. I don't know how
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: much of this is coincidental. I don't know how much
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: of this is still yet to happen. I'm told that
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: there are other moves that are still going to occur,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: but I will believe it when I actually see it.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: But it certainly symbolically is another win for Donald Trump.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, when your biggest critic from your first administration
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: ends up being effectively forced to quit, not you know,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: a week or more into your second, from a major
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: news outlet like CNN symbolically, that's significant, and whether it's
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: by design, whether it's by coincidence, or somewhere in between,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: it certainly does appear as if CNN is getting rid
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: of some of their most liberal personalities. In Jim Acosta
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: would certainly qualify in that way, and I do think
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: it's consistent with what we're seeing with some other news
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: media outlets. I've referenced already that the owner of the
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Times is almost ready to put on a
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: red Maga hat. Not quite, but it's just remarkable to
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: see some of the statements that he has made publicly
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: in interviews and on Twitter. And you know, I'm not
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: somebody that believes that the entire media landscape is going
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: to completely change and then all of a sudden, you know,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: the media is going to turn from liberal to conservative
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: and everyone's going to be writing the Trump bandwagon, and
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: you know, everything's honky dory now. But there are some
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: indications of change in a positive direction, and I think
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: that should be acknowledged, and there's some definitely good elements
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: of that. That being said, we're still seeing evidence that
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the mainstream news media is still incredibly liberal, still incredibly corrupt,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and they're really brazen about some of the things that
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: they're willing and able to do. And probably the most
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: dramatic example of that over the last week came in
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the form of the New York magazine cover story. This
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: is absolutely amazing, even by the standards of today's broken
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: news media. If you haven't heard about this, you should
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: check this out for yourself. It's somewhat of a visual story.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: If you look it up online, I'm sure you'll be
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: able to find it. But New York Magazine, a liberal outlet,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: had a cover story with the headline the Cruel Kids Table,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: and then the subheadline out Late with the Young Right
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: as they contemplate cultural domination. And the photograph that is
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: behind this headline, the Cruel Kids Table, is of a
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: bunch of very very good looking white guys and girls
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: women at a Trump inaugural party, or at least a
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: party that was held in Washington, d C. I believe
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: this was on the Friday of inauguration weekend. And I
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: mean it looks frankly like a great party. I mean,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: the women are beautiful, the guys are handsome, everyone seems
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: to be having a great time, except every single person
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: in the photograph is white, and that is referenced in
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: the New York magazine cover story and the description of
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: their cover is why is everybody white? Essentially is what
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: the magazine is asking, and that is the implication of
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. Basically, you know, it's a bunch of
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: rich looking, good looking white people that are going to
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: take over the world now that Donald Trump is back
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: in office. Well, this would be an absurd narrative on
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: its face, but it's even more ridiculous because when the
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: actual original photo was made public, it was revealed that
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: New York Magazine had clearly cropped this photograph to use
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: on their cover to edit out at least three black
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: men who were right on the periphery of their cover photograph.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: So they censored out three black men who would have
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: been on the cover simply because they wanted to make
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: it look like these were all a bunch of basically Nazis,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Nazi youth white people, good looking blondes who are celebrating
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: the inauguration of Donald Trump. Even worse than that, it
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: turns out that the person who was at the center
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: of planning this party happened to be a black male
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Trump supporter, So I mean, this is as ridiculous and
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: as absurd as it gets, and thankfully New York Magazine
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: got caught. But this is a classic example of where
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: social media now plays a huge role, in specifically Twitter,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: because a story like this can go viral in a
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: huge way that would not have been possible previously, especially
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: now that Elon Musk owns Twitter, and so immediately this
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: story was debunked, and in my view, New York Magazine
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: got humiliated in a way that they would not have
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: five ten, certainly fifteen years ago. There would have been
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: no way to combat and debunk and attack this kind
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: of absurdity. And it ends up blowing up in New
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: York Magazine's face, and they and the left wing meet
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: lose even more credibility. And we're even seeing now that
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: the election is over, and now that Donald Trump has
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: taken office, we're even seeing some indications that liberal media
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: members are willing to tell on themselves, at least when
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: they're no longer with their former employer. There was a
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: remarkable confession by a reporter by the name of Mark
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Caputo who used to work for Politico, who did an
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: interview where he upfront totally acknowledged that Politico, which is
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: a very significant Washington, D C. Based political news outlet,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: which obviously has a liberal bias to it, that he
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: openly admitted that when it came to the Hunter Biden
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: laptop story, that there was a complete shutdown at Politico
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: of anything related to Hunter Biden's laptop. This was an
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: extraordinary admission. And here's what it sounded like when Caputo
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: did did an interview with another media member.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: But then Facebook also pulled all stories down about the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: Hunter Biden laptop, and I think Twitter right at the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: same time.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Too correct.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: They punished the New York Post. It didn't help. I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: mean Politico, my former employer, and I knew at the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: time didn't do itself any favors. I was covering by
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: it at the time, and I remember coming to my
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 7: editor and saying, Hey, we need to write about the
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: Hunter Biden laptop. And I was told this came from
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: on high at Politico. Don't write about the laptop, don't
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: talk about the laptop, don't tweet about the laptop. And
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: the only thing Politico wound up writing was that piece
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: that called it disinformation, which charitably could be called misinformation.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: At the least, that is an absolutely remarkable admission, and frankly,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think it got nearly enough attention, although it
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: did obviously get a lot of play online because especially
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: on Twitter that's now bizarrely dominated by the right in
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the Elon Musk era. Now, one of the other things
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: that is going to be a problem for the liberal
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: media as they cover Donald Trump is that we have
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: a press secretary. Her name is Caroline Levitt. She's only
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, and of course she takes over
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  Speaker 1: for Kareem Jean Pierre. And this is quite an upgrade.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I went on NewsNation television last night to
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  Speaker 1: discuss her first day on the job, and it is
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  Speaker 1: really amazing how much better she is at this on
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: day one than Karine Jean Pierre ever was. And now,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Kaaran Jean Pierre was obviously a DEI selection. She was
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: terrible at her job. And one of the best things
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  Speaker 1: that you can do in life is to take over
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  Speaker 1: for something, so for someone who is awful at what
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  Speaker 1: they do, and so Levitt is going to benefit dramatically
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  Speaker 1: from that reality. Donald Trump is gonna benefit dramatically from
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  Speaker 1: that reality when it comes to taking over for Joe
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  Speaker 1: Biden in his second administration in comparison to taking over
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  Speaker 1: for Barack Obama in his first. I think taking over
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: for Barack Obama was much more difficult simply from the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: maybe even subconscious subliminal comparisons. I mean, Trump sounded like
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: an idiot at times in comparison to Barack Obama. That's
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: not the case in comparison to Joe Biden. His energy alone,
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  Speaker 1: as I referenced on the day of the inauguration, and
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  Speaker 1: I think I also alluded to with regard to his
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  Speaker 1: trip to Los Angeles, it is white years ahead of
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  Speaker 1: where Joe Biden ever would have been on his best day.
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  Speaker 1: So Caroline Levitt has that huge advantage. She also has
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  Speaker 1: the advantage of, as I said on NewsNation, not having
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  Speaker 1: to spend her first day on the job blatantly lying
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: about the size of Donald Trump's inaugural crowd, which is
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: what Sean Speiser had to do the first time around
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  Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. I'm sure Carolyn Levette was very thrilled
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: that the inauguration was moved inside so that she didn't
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  Speaker 1: have to worry about that particular issue. But she's getting
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: rave reviews for how she did on her first day,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: and I understand it again partially because she's being compared
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: to Kareeen John Pierre, who was just awful, but also
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  Speaker 1: because she is very good at this and she's giving
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump exactly what he wants. It's to me a
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  Speaker 1: much more partisan press secretary than should be the case.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: I think we're clearly seeing signs that we're in a
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: downward spiral towards oblivion here. This is a really good
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: example of this where the slippery slope matters, where you know,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: one Press secretary becomes a little bit partisan and the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: next one becomes more partisan, and now we have a
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  Speaker 1: full on partisan press secretary because Karn Levett understands who
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: her audience is. That's Donald Trump. That's clearly what he wants.
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  Speaker 1: He wants someone who's going to be fighting hard on
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  Speaker 1: his behalf and dropping the mic and owning the Libs
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff, and she seems very
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: capable of doing that. So, you know, even though I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: have reservations about the way that she's going to do
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: this job, it's certainly a lot better than we had
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: during the Biden administration. And probably the biggest headline there
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: were a couple headlines from her first day as Press secretary,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: but the biggest was probably the fact that we now
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: have information that indicates that drone's sanity, as I refer
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: to it, was nothing, was no big deal, that there
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: was no enemy involved in this, that all the significant
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: aircraft were approved by the FAA, and that there was actually,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: as I told you, there was a social contagion element
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: to this. Once the whole story started to get traction
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: and that increased the number of drones, and then you
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: have a feeding frenzy and a self fulfilling prophecy, and
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: everything feeds off of itself and media coverage begets more insanity.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: So that's the social contagent element of this. She didn't
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: focus a lot on that, but she did at least
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: reference it. But she made a fairly dramatic statement right
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: off the top of her first day as Press secretary
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  Speaker 1: where she essentially provided this message on behalf of Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: And that's important here of Donald Trump. President Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: wants people to know that he's looked into the whole
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  Speaker 1: drone sanity thing and yeah, there was nothing really to it.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: And here's what Press Secretary Carolyn Levett said on her
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  Speaker 1: first day on the job regarding the drone's sanity issue.
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  Speaker 4: And before I turned to questions, I do have news
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  Speaker 4: directly from the President of the United States that was
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  Speaker 4: just shared with me in the Oval Office from President
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: Trump directly an update on the New Jersey drones. After
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: research and study, the drones that were flying over New
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: Jersey in large numbers were authorized to be flown by
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: the FAA for research and various other reasons. Many of
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: these drones were also hobbyists, recreational and private individuals that
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: enjoy flying jones in meantime, in time it got worse
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: due to curiosity. This was not the enemy. A statement
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: from the President of the United States to start this
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  Speaker 4: briefing with some news, and with that I will turn
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  Speaker 4: it over to question.
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  Speaker 1: Now, That's basically what I told you was really going on,
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  Speaker 1: That I was not concerned about this, that there was
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  Speaker 1: probably something to it, and you know, but that by
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: and large this was being exaggerated, and that the social
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: contagion element of this was getting a life of its own,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: and that the conspiracy theorists were going crazy. And I'm
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: not at all surprised by what Carolyn Levett said. There
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: on behalf of Donald Trump. But here's what I think
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: is the most important part of this. Most important part
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: of this is that Trump fans, many of them, still
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: don't believe this story. They don't believe it even though
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: it's coming directly from Donald Trump through his press secretary
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: on her first day in the job, declaratively being stated
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: that hey, nothing to worry about here, and you know
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: this was no big deal. Let's move along. Many Trump fans,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: much like I guarantee you that the Venn diagram here
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: would be fascinating. Between this story and the JFK assassination
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: file story, these are very similar groups of people. These
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: people simply will not accept that this story is legit,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: that this could is all there was to it, because
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: they have become completely invested in the idea that there
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: was something the faiyous going on here, that the government
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: is lying to us. And there were all sorts of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: crazy crackpot theories, including from politicians. I mean, you remember
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: there was there was one guy, a Republican officeholder, who
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: said that this was a Ronnie and Mother's ship. You
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: remember there was another news outlet in New York City
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: that was using Bethany Frankel talking about someone she knew
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: with the Pentagon as a legitimate source on what was
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: actually happening. I mean, this story was crazy. It was nuts,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: and as usually as the case, you know, when you
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: look at it from through a much more rational lens,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: as I tend to do, it was obvious that this
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: was a social contagion, that there was nothing really to this. Now,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: you could make an argument, and some Trump fans have
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: rationally done this that, well, why didn't the Biden administration
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: just tell us this? Why did we have to wait
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: for Trump to take office? And I don't have an
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: answer for that. I mean, it could just be incompetence.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: It could be the fact that Biden was going out
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: of office and there was all sorts of chaos. So
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: I don't have an explanation for that, and I think
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: that's legitimate criticism. I mean, Joe Biden allowed the country
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: for several weeks, especially the Northeast, to be all concerned
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: about something that was not apparently a concern at all.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: But back to the Trump fans. The Trump fans are
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: fascinating and so frustrating here because many of them still
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: do not believe this story. And I'm like, well, so,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: then what's your alternative theory. So Donald Trump is now
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: part of the cover up. Donald Trump is now part
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: of this massive, incredibly massive conspiracy, which, again in a
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: social media age, isn't possible to pull off for reasons
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: I've already explained. How does that make any sense? I
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: would When I was on News Nation last night, there
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: was a guest done before me, a New Jersey politician
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: who's a Trump fan, a Republican who was openly stated
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: he doesn't really believe this version of the story, that
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: he thinks that the real Trump. I'm pair of that
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: the real Trump will tell us what's actually going on.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Eventually they don't let it slip. I'm like, do you
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: people listen to yourselves? This is crazy? And it's so
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: much reminded me of the whole Jeffrey Epstein issue, which
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: I've talked about many times on this podcast before, where
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: you have a situation Donald Trump is speaking to Tucker Carlson.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson asks him what he thinks happened to Jeffrey Epstein.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Carlston's already convinced Epstein didn't really kill himself in a
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: federal prison as nicely as possible. It's so similar to
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: this drone sanity situation, because Trump doesn't want to make
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: any of his fans feel like complete idiots. As nicely
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: as possible, he says pretty clearly that Epstein did in
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: fact kill himself. Now, this was the president of the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: United States. When Epstein killed himself in a federal prison,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: his Attorney General, Bill Barr was in charge of the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: federal prison system. The level of cover up that would
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: have to go on here is astronomical. This would be
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: the easiest crime to solve if he was actually murdered
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: in a federal prison in history, for reasons that I've
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: explained many times previously. So Carlson sits there, here's the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: President of the United States, a guy he endores, a
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: guy he campaigns for, the guy he helped win the Republican.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 8: Nomination, and it doesn't have any impact on his view
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: that Epstein had to have been murdered in a federal prison.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: It's just crazy. It is so baffling to me. I
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: don't even understand this mindset, but it's very concerning because
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: that's that's just beyond cult like behavior. I mean, it
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: works to Trump's benefit in so many ways because he
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: gets no blowback from his supporters at all for being
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: part of the Epstein cover up or being part of
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: the drone sanity cover up, which he would have to
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: be if what you're saying is true. He gets all
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: the benefit, all the praise for the stuff they like,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: and none of the criticism, none of the blowback. It's
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: just not even part of their mindset that Trump could
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: actually be a bad guy, even though if what they're
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: saying is true, he would have to be the main
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: bad guy. It is funny, but it's also it's very concerning,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: especially to people who think logically like I do. Now
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: the drone sanity element of Carolyn Levett's first day on
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: the job as Press Secretary, at least your first press
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: briefing was not the only headline. There were several others.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: The part of this that I found to be very interesting,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: and I also mentioned this on my News Nation television appearance.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: By the way, with regard to the News Nation, I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: wasn't even on with Dan Abrams. Last night was Dan
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Abrams Show, but Dan was not hosting, And I've now
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: learned that Dan's last show on News Nation is going
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: to be next Friday, so it's going to be a
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: bit sooner than even I anticipated. I knew it would
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: be sometime in February, and he's going to be replaced,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: it seems like, by a more conservative voice. I may
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: or may not still do regular appearances on that show.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's going to know until we actually
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: see it in practice. I doubt it's going to happen
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: as often as it did with Dan, because I've worked
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: with Dan in the past and we have a relationship
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: and a mutual respect. But who knows. But anyway, that
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: was kind of a shock to me because I don't
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: think it's possible. But I don't think I'm going to
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: be on again with Dan Abrams because there's only a
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: handful of shows left, and in fact, I think he's
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: already going to be off on a couple of those dates.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: So even though it was Dan Abrams show, dan Abrams
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: was not hosting. That being said, one of the other
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: things I talked about on the News Nation appearance was
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: the fact that Caroline Levett announced that they're going to
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: be opening up the press credential process for the White
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: House Press Corps to effectively social media influencers and you know,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: people like that, and this is I understand why they're
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: doing it. It's a very popular idea with MAGA. I'm
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: sure Trump loves this idea, which is why it's happening.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: So basically, instead of having to be a member of
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: a legacy media outlet, which has traditionally been the only
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: way you could get credentials to be in the White
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: House Press Corps, they're going to open it up and
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: allow people to apply. And my guess is it's going
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: to be based upon how large their social media platform
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: is and what the nature of their content is. But
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: they're looking for individuals who are reporting on substantive news,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: who are essentially working for themselves and our social media
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: influencers to become members of the White House Press Score. Now.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: I think part of the reason why Trump loves this
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: idea is one because you know, he was very successful
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: with social media, especially TikTok during the campaign, and obviously
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: he's being associated with potentially saving TikTok, So there's that
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: part of it. The fact that his son Baron has
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: gotten credit for, you know, appealing to the to the
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: younger social media users. I don't know how real that is,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: but that's a narrative that's out there but I think
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: the part of this that Trump probably loves most is
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: that this is a kind of scept that will scare
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: the living daylights out of the mainstream legacy news media.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: First of all, they don't like the idea that somehow,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: you know, they're sacred press credentials, and these press credentials
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: in the White House Press Corps, I mean, they are sacred.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: These are It's a huge deal to get credentialed. The
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: room is not that large, and there's not that many
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: people that can be credentialed, and obviously the more people
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: that are there, the more difficult it is to ask
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: a question. And the idea that somehow you're going to
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: put an individual with a decent TikTok following on the
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: same level as a reporter from a legacy media outlet
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: abcnbccbs CNN, MSNBC or even Fox to them is abhorrent
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: and absurd and scary, And so I'm sure that's part
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: of why Trump is doing it. I mean, they're not
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: going to want to share their space with the the
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: unwashed of social media. And look, I one hundred percent
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: get why Trump loves this idea, why Maga loves this idea,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: but I have concerns about I find myself increasingly in
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: the very strange position of being an ardent critic of
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: the legacy news media, but also somewhat defending the legacy
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: news media because the legacy news media is important. I
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: don't want the legacy news media to go away. We
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: need gatekeepers now. We need gatekeepers who do a good,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: honest and decent and fair job, which we haven't had
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: for the most part for a very long time. But
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: we still need gatekeepers. And those gatekeepers, unfortunately, have to
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: come by and large from corporate media outlets. Now I
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: realize corporate media outlets have huge inherent problems, especially once
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: their business model has broken. And you know, people like
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: to use the example all the time of how beholden
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: they are to the pharmaceutical companies because of all the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: money that pharmaceutical companies spend on advertising. That's just one
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: of many many examples. I get that there are massive
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: disadvantages to corporate legacy news media, but one of the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: advantages is that when you have that kind of an infrastructure,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: and you have that kind of a risk for things
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: going haywire because there's deep pockets involved. And we just
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: saw with this defamation case involving CNN, where they lost,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: and I don't think they necessarily should have lost, but
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: it went to trial and then they settled the punitive
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: damages and they know they were forced to pay out
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: millions of dollars for something that only happens because they're
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: a massive corporation and what was said in that case
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: was really not that dramatic, and if it had been
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: said by a social media user, no one wouldn't even
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: have cared because there weren't deep pockets to go after.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: So inherently, when you have a corporate media outlet, because
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: the risks are so high, there's going to be more vetting.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Plus there's more of an infrastructure, although that infrastructure is
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: dissipating greatly, but there's producers, there's different lines of defense
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: to make sure that something doesn't go haywire. Sometimes that
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: system collapses and fails, and I criticize that all the time,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: but at least that system is in place that doesn't
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: exist with an individual who just happens to have a
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: large social media following, and in this case is probably
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: pro Trump because I guarantee that that's going to be
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: part of the selection process that they be pro Trump,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: at least to some degree. That's why they're going to
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: be considered for press credentials in the White House Press Corps.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: But when it's an individual, there's no real significant risk.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: The incentive structure is all discombobulated. There's a huge incentive
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: for an individual to do something purely for attention, for clicks,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: to create chaos. Now the fact that if they're a
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Trump supporter that might influence that a little bit because
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: they don't want to fall out of the Trump club.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: But I just think this is dangerous territory and I
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: understand why people like it. I understand why Trump wants
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: to do it. Maybe this is a situation of where
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: it depends on how you actually do it. I mean,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: are you picking the right people? Are you policing them properly?
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: I'm open to it working. I'm not an elitist. I
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: think that there should be some place for citizen journalism
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: in a situation like this. But I just think that
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: there are also dangers that I hope somebody in the
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Trump administration is aware of, although I'm not sure they
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: will be because I think Trump just wants to ticket
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: to the main street news media and this frankly, is
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: a very good way to do it. I mean, this
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: is a shot across the back. I mean, your monopoly
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: is over, folks. We're even going to allow citizen journalists
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: to apply for White House press credentials, and in all
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: likelihood you're probably going to get them, at least to
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: some degree, because this is something that very much fits
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: with Donald Trump's agenda. So I had a differing view
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: on that topic than I'm sure almost any other conservative,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: especially any Trump conservative or Republican, would have. When it
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: comes to what's going on with the news media. I
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: want to at least acknowledge the amazing job that Vice
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: President jd Vance did on CBS's Face the Nation last
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: weekend in an interview with Margaret Brennan. Now, Margaret Brennan
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: is a clear liberal, and she was one of the
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: co hosts of the vice presidential debate that JD Van
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: had with Tim Waltz. In fact, she participated in the
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: cutting off of JD Vance's microphone during that vice presidential debate.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to play clips of this because
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: they've been seen widely online. You can find them for yourself.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: There's so many to play. I mean, I don't even
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: know which one I would play first. But JD. Vans
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: absolutely schooled Margaret Brennan. I mean schooled her, especially when
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: it came to the issue of what causes inflation, especially
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: when it comes to grocery prices and how that's connected
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: to energy costs. But JD. Vance is just so good
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: at this, and it really is remarkable just how well
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: he is able to demolish someone like Margaret Brennan. And
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: he has become exceedingly popular already. It's hard to believe,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: but it was only a few months ago when people
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: were still concerned as to when that JD. Vans would
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: be a good Vie presidential nominee or a good vice
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: president for Donald Trump. And ever since that vice presidential debate,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: that narrative has flipped dramatically. And I mean the only
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: way at this point realize, four years is a long
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: time from now, but it's not that long, especially in
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: modern politics, where presidential elections are a lot like aircraft
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: carriers and are very difficult to turn around. But at
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: this point, the only way JD. Vance is not the
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Republican presidential nominee in twenty twenty eight is if he
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: has a massive falling out with Donald Trump, which I
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: don't think is at all likely. Now, the Elon Musk
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: donald Trump relationship is a completely different animal, and you've
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: got a lot of people who are starting to cause
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: problems there. Steve Bannon is trying to cause problems there.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: There's a report that Susie Wilds has kind of clipped
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: Elon Musk's wings when it comes to his office at
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: the White House and his access to the President. I
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: don't know how accurate that is yet, but the Musk
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Trump relationship is one to absolutely watch. I am not
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: concerned at all about the JD. Vans Donald Trump relationship
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: unless Donald Trump really died, decides to buy into this
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: idea that they can change the Constitution so we can
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: run for a third term, which he keeps joking about,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: which is not at all helpful and I'm still not
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: believing is real. But barring some sort of a black
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Swan event like that, JD. Vance is going to be
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: the Republican presidential nominee in twenty twenty eight. Now. One
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: of the other things that Donald Trump did in the
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: first days of his presidency that I want a reference.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: I've already talked about how he removed the security detail
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: for John Bolton and a couple of other of his
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: perceived enemies. I mean, in a very petty sort of fashion.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Trump has removed the security detail even though, in the
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: case of John Bolton, he has had credible threats on
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: his life from Iron and so I didn't really agree
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: with him doing that. I especially didn't agree with the
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: reasoning behind it, because it's obviously happening because Bolton, who
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: was once Trump's national security advisor, is now a Trump critic.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: That's the worst thing that you can do in Donald
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Trump's world. It's actually worse to have once been hired
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: by him and then be seen as a trader than
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: to have never worked for him at all. And so
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't really like the way that Trump handled that
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: particular situation. And we've now learned that doctor Anthony Fauci
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: has been added to that list of people whose security
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: detail has been removed now that Donald Trump is president.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: And I'll be the first to acknowledge that I look
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: at the Fauci situation differently than the Bolton circumstance. Part
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: of it is because I don't hate John Bolton. Part
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: of me likes John Bolton a little bit, because at
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: least he has some balls and he's at least pretty smart,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: even though I have other problems with John Bolton, but
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: I hate Anthony Fauci, so I'll be the first to
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: admit that my personal biases play a role here. But
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: I also think that the threats against John Bolton are
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: a lot more legitimate than anything that I've been made
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: aware of in the public domain when it comes to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci. And so I don't understand the logic behind
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: Fauci having millions and millions of dollars spent every year
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: on his private security detail, especially now that he's no
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: longer in government. I mean, who's going after doctor Fauci.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not aware of any legitimate threats. I would have
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: referenced a tweet by a sports guy by the name
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: of Jerry Callahan from the Boston area, with whom I've
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: had some run ins in the past. But he actually
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: follows me on Twitter, so I guess, and occasionally he'll
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: even retweet my stuff, so I guess he doesn't hate
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: me very much. But Jerry Callahan had a great tweet
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: in response to doctor Fauci losing his security details. This
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: so much Jerry wrote, if Fauci is nervous, he should
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: just stay inside at least six feet away from anyone
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: else double masked. Leaving his house would be reckless and selfish.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: I love that. Yes, Fauci should definitely just stay inside
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: six feet away from anybody else double mask and it
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: would be reckless and selfish for him to leave his
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: house now that he no longer has security details. So
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I very much appreciated that from Jerry Callahad. That leads
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: me to something that happened at my kids school last week.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: Now you probably remember that I have been very outspoken
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: about how often school now gets canceled in the post
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: COVID era, and I predicted this. I said that one
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: of the many, many, many ramifications of the COVID panic
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: and shutting down schools for over a year here in
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: California for no legitimate reason, is that the threshold for
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: cancelation going forward, not to mention the truancy rates, the
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: threshold for cancelation going forward was going to be greatly reduced.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: And that has proven to be the case. And I
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: talked to you about what happened in November of last
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: year when we had fires very very close to my
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: house here in Ventura County, less than a mile away.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: I had gotten an evacuation alert on my phone while
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: I was taping the podcast, and we ended up not
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: having school effectively for a week because of those fires.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Even though in my view there was no benefit to
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: not going to school, there was you know, people couldn't
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: make it fine. But you know, the vast, vast, vast
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: majority of our community was not directly impacted by the fires.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: The air quality was fine, and yet our superintendent decided,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: you know, an abundance of caution to essentially because this
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: was such a catastrophe in our community to not have
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: school for almost a week, And I very much criticized
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: our superintendent for that. You may recall that previously I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: had met with our superintendent on related issues, and my
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: wife had effectively snipped my balls because my wife's a
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: school teacher in the district and she was concerned that
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: I might, you know, cause her problems. My wife, you know,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: has tenure now, and it seems like she's gotten a
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: little bit less concerned about what problems I might cause
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: with regard to my communication with our superintendent. So I've
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: become much more outspoken, especially via email when it comes
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: to expressing my disdain for this whole idea of oh,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: we're just going to cancel school willy nilly. Well before
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: we got rain over the weekend, which hopefully will have
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: ended the wildfire concerns moving forward, hopefully until next fall.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: Here in southern California, we had another fire break out
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: nowhere near where we are, but the wind direction blew
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: the smoke from this massive fire directly into our little town,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: so there was no fire danger at all. But there
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: was very significant smoke. I mean, in one day in particular,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: it looked like it was something out of a movie.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: The sky, you know, was completely filled with smoke. You
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: could smell it, you could feel it, you know, you
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: could see it. Obviously it was. It was a dramatic
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: and kind of scary I can certainly see for young
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: kids it would be a scary situation because you have
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: this massive plume of smoke now overhanging your entire community.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: But they didn't cancel school on that day. They went
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: ahead with school. Now, there was, of course, you know,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: provisions you not to go outside. They never let the
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: kids outside now anymore for anything. If it's too windy,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: too smoky to rainy, whatever it is. The going outside
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: is almost a privilege now because we have these people
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: that are always concerned about you can never be too
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: safe running our school district. So I picked up my
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: seven year old second grade daughter, Diana from school on
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: the day where it was super smoky. This was at
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, and I noticed, as ever
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: one was coming out of school, all the kids, especially
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: in Diana's class, were masked. And these were the old
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: COVID era masks, these flimsy things that don't do cream
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: for anything. They're just virtue signals and you know, ass
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: covering maneuvers for the administrators to show that they're doing
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: same thing to try to keep our kids safe from
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: this smoke. And I noticed that Diana did not have
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: a mask on, and I asked her about it. I
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: sensed that this was going to be a good story,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: so I immediately got my phone out to ask her
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: why she was not masked. And I had to say,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: I was very, very amused and proud of the response
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: that she gave me that was completely totally unprovoked. And
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: I had no knowledge before this taping that any of
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: this was what had transpired her that even you know,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: this was even a question in her mind or even
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: really what her view of masks in this situation might be.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: So here's what it saunded like when I did an
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: impromptu interview with my daughter Diana getting out of school
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: when the entire class was masked because of all the
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: smoke that we were experiencing that day here in southern California. Yea,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: what a weird day today. I'm with all the smoke.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: Did everyone else wear a mask? Every single person except
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: for you?
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: Oh look, miss Sulky, I cannot want to wear a mask.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: I am a true American.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: You're a true American. So you were the only one
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: in your class not to wear a mask in this
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: crazy smoke filled day. Yeah, and then how do you feel?
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: How proud to be a kid exactly standing all.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Out for you? You're becoming just like your sister Drace.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: You realize that, right? Yeah? Alright, Well I'm glad you're okay,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie. That was a proud dad moment right there.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: For seven year old Diana on her own to say, Nope, sorry,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: I'm a real American. I'm not wearing a mask. That
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: was pretty awesome. And for those who try to say Oh,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: are you somehow in favor of your child getting a
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: smoke in elation or breathing in smoke particles. No, but
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: the masks that they were given were not in ninety fives,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: which might have some semblance of an impact on smoke particles,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: even though they didn't have any in my view, any
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: real significant impact on the COVID virus. But smoke particles
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: are obviously different. But that's not what they were given.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: They were given the old, flimsy cloth masks. It would
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: absolutely positively nothing in this situation other than muzzle you
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: and give you this false sense of security. In fact,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, the health authorities have actually been telling
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: people not to wear those type of masks, which is
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: absolutely hilarious given what they were saying during COVID, where
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: the masks were even less effective against the COVID virus
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: than they would have been against smoke particles. So, Diana,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: I thought, handled that situation fantastically. But here's what ended
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: up transpiring. So that day, it's super smokey. We get
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: home and there is a message from the school that
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: we might have to have school tomorrow the next day,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you talking about? The forecast
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: is for the first of all, the fire is nowhere
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: near us. The forecast is for the winds to be high.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: But from a different direction, I'm looking outside, I can
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: see the moon and all the stars. I mean, the
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: smoke is completely cleared out. And sure enough we get
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: a message at like six o'clock in the morning the
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: next day, no school. And at that point, after years
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: of frustration with our school superintendent, I could no longer
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: deal with it. I had had enough, I had no
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: more fox left to give, and I politely and without profanity,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: let our superintendent have it. And I essentially told her
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: I can no longer take you seriously. Of all of
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: your cancelations, this is the most ridiculous. And then I
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: send her a video of what it looked like in
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: Camio when school was boast to start, where the sky
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: was blue. It was windy, but not that windy. No
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: fire anywhere. I've never understood, by the way, the logic
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the air quality, like we had
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: to cancel school for theoretically or possibly poor air quality,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: as if the air quality at home is going to
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: be any better than the air quality at school. No
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: one has been able to explain to me how this
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: makes any goddamn sense. But this is what we have
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: to deal with with liberal academics in southern California. And
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: so she politely responded, it's always good to know where
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: you staid, or I stand with you, mister Zigler, blah
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: blah blah. And then because I had had it and
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: had no fucks left to give, I said, you know,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: I was disappointed because then at this point we found
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: out we were going to have school the next day,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: So they had no school on a perfectly fine day,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: but thankfully we were going to have school the next day.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: And I emailed her, I said, you know, I was
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: disappointed to hear that you've already decided that we should
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: have school tomorrow because you never know, you know, a
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: new fire could break out, or we could have an earthquake.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: You know, you can never be too safe, and out
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: of an abundance of caution, I really think it would
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: have behooved you to decide not to have school tomorrow. Now,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: she didn't respond to that one because I think she realized, Okay,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: let's become radic colussed. This is a different breed account
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: I'm dealing with now that I've been previously. I'm off
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: the reservation. I am done. I am done. This is
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: just such bullshit. And then eventually, you know, she responded,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: oh oh, this is this is the final portion of
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: this epic email exchange. So over the weekend, I had
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: calculated this is amazing to me. My wife didn't find
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: this all that remarkable. But I had calculated that since
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: the day that we had our local fires here, it
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: had been eighty one days. So there have been eighty
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: one calendar days since the fires began in our small
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: town back in November. School had only been open to
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: students for thirty five of those eighty one days, because
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: of all sorts of holidays, Thanksgiving, Christmas, you know, all
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: the other holidays, all the other teacher workdays, the days
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: missed because of fires and smoke, what have you. And
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: so I very politely said to the superintendent, you might
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: find it interesting that we've only been to school thirty
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: five of the last eighty one days, and she responded,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: thank you for that information. You'll be happy to know
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: that we'll be open for school tomorrow. Well, it had
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: rained that day and was still supposed to rain some
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: more that night. I said, I think you might be
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: a little hasty here opening school tomorrow because someone might
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: slip on a wet sidewalk and get hurt, and we
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: wouldn't I want that to happen, because you can never
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: be too safe. I didn't get a response to that.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna be getting any more responses
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: to any of my emails from our superintendent of schools.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: But that's why you don't become California folks. Hold the
• 1:40:16
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