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FRONT OFFICE SHAKEUP: Perry Minasian out as Angels GM; former Cards exec John Mozeliak in · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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Speaker 1: Blay Angel fans and welcome back to Halo territory. I
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Speaker 1: am Mike D. Giovanna, former La Times Baseball writer and
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Speaker 1: host of the show, joined by my regular co host
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Speaker 1: Mark Trumbo, the former Angel slugger, and Sam Blum of
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Speaker 1: The Athletic, one of our regular HT contributors. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: joining us, guys. We'll get right to the big news
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Speaker 1: over the weekend. Perry Manassian fired as general manager. John
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Speaker 1: mozay Loock got to pronounce that right, hired as interim GM,
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Speaker 1: the former Saint Louis Cardinals president of baseball operations, and
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Speaker 1: Molly Jolly, the new team president. Here's to have a
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Speaker 1: huge hand in these moves. Let's just start with a
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Speaker 1: general reaction. Guys, Sam, what was your reaction when you
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Speaker 1: heard this?
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Speaker 2: Well, it was a little shocked. I mean it shouldn't
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Speaker 2: be shocking, right, I mean, this is a GM who's
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Speaker 2: not succeeded in any capacity, right, it shouldn't shock you
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Speaker 2: any But I mean, just the Angels making this move
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Speaker 2: was the right move. You know, I think you're heading
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Speaker 2: into the draft, you're heading into the trade deadline. These
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Speaker 2: are you know, two areas where I think Perry has
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Speaker 2: done quite poorly, so, you you know, and I give
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Speaker 2: credit to Molly Jolly. I know that's the narrative the
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Speaker 2: Angels are selling right now is that this was completely
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Speaker 2: her decision and her move, and that John Moseylock has
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Speaker 2: not even had a conversation with Ardy Marine. I you know,
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Speaker 2: it's hard to believe. I'll take them at their word
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Speaker 2: for it for now. I can't imagine they already wouldn't
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Speaker 2: have a significant hand in these types of decisions. But
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Speaker 2: this was the right This was the right call. Perry
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Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't not a good general manager, didn't, you know,
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Speaker 2: didn't I don't think had a great grasp of the organization,
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Speaker 2: the people that worked in it. Don't think the communication
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Speaker 2: was strong. Don't think the uh, you know, obviously the
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Speaker 2: results on the field weren't good. That it's you know,
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Speaker 2: the signings, the DFAs, the everything.
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Speaker 1: It just wasn't.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't working out. The record was three hundred and
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Speaker 2: ninety two and five hundred, So I don't need to
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Speaker 2: kind of depend my point there. That kind of does
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Speaker 2: it for me. And you know, I know everyone kind
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Speaker 2: of says, oh you got a tough break. It was
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Speaker 2: you know, already's this, that, and the other. He's the
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Speaker 2: guy that makes his life so hard. I think two
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Speaker 2: things can be true. That is true, right, But what's
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Speaker 2: also true is the area is where I think Perry
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Speaker 2: could have done well. He didn't, and you know, you
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Speaker 2: saw a time and again, and I think they could
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Speaker 2: have been a better team over these last five and
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Speaker 2: a half years with or without already with you know,
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Speaker 2: but with Perry, it just wasn't meant to be, and
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Speaker 2: I don't think it was getting any better anytime soon.
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Speaker 2: So they hired someone who, in my opinion, sounds like
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Speaker 2: a real baseball person, someone who's had success. You know,
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Speaker 2: I'll reserve kind of judgment on the overall outcome until
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Speaker 2: we kind of see a streamlined, you know, strategy here.
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Speaker 2: But I was impressed by his press conference because it
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Speaker 2: just felt like, for the first time in forever that
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Speaker 2: I had heard somebody with the Angels that didn't sound
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Speaker 2: like they were terrified of you know, arty or getting
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Speaker 2: in trouble. It just kind of like said what they
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Speaker 2: were thinking, and we're being real toively honest to some extent,
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Speaker 2: and you know, it just it didn't feel like someone
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Speaker 2: who was stepping on egshields with every single word, and
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Speaker 2: you know where what does that translate to? We'll find out.
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Speaker 2: But you know, overall a positive first day.
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Speaker 1: I felt like, Yeah, I wasn't shocked by the move.
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Speaker 1: I honestly I thought Perry should have been fired after
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, could have easily been fired after twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five. The timing of it, to me, was a
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Speaker 1: little surprising in that we're a little more than two
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Speaker 1: weeks away from the draft. Angels had the twelfth overall pick,
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Speaker 1: I believe, pretty big deal, and what five weeks now
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Speaker 1: ahead of the trade deadline? I think this is going
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Speaker 1: to pose some serious challenges for well, let's just call
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Speaker 1: him Mo because you know, his last name is tough
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Speaker 1: to remember exactly how to pronounce it. You know, is
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Speaker 1: he going to have enough time to do a thorough
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Speaker 1: enough analysis of this farm system of the major league
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Speaker 1: team to one? You know, apparently he's not going to
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Speaker 1: have much input on the draft, And I think that's great.
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Speaker 1: The scouting director should do the draft. But is he
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Speaker 1: is gonna have enough time to figure out whether this
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Speaker 1: team should sell some of its assets before the trade
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Speaker 1: deadline and look to start a serious rebuilding process, which
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Speaker 1: just has not happened ever. I don't know, five weeks
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a cram course for him. But this
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Speaker 1: is an established guy. You know, he was eighteen years
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Speaker 1: as head of baseball operations for the Cardinals, who enjoyed
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Speaker 1: a ton of success. Help rebuild that farm system, proven
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Speaker 1: track record. Maybe you know, if anybody can do it,
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Speaker 1: maybe this is the guy to do it.
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Speaker 3: What do you think, Mark, He's got the resume, he's
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Speaker 3: got the experience. I think why I enjoyed listening to him.
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Speaker 3: That's a baseball man talking. That's somebody who's done it
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Speaker 3: for a long time. He's had success, and he knows
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Speaker 3: what it looks like. He knows what a good ballplayer,
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Speaker 3: you know. Just he doesn't need to do a ton
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Speaker 3: of research to know what talent is or is not.
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Speaker 3: I think in the recent years, especially, keep hearing or
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Speaker 3: heard the narrative that it's about the makeup, it's about
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Speaker 3: the character, And I'm really wondering that must have been
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Speaker 3: what got him the job in the first place. Talking
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Speaker 3: about Perry, he beat out some very qualified other candidates
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Speaker 3: when I was looking at who else at the time
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Speaker 3: was interested in the job. Justin Hollander of the Mariners.
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Speaker 3: Jason McLeod going to take a stab at that, and
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Speaker 3: Emil said, why two tough names there, But those guys
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Speaker 3: are both very highly esteemed and all three of them,
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Speaker 3: and I know Justin Hollander from my time with the Angels.
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Speaker 3: So whatever Perry said initially he got hired, you must
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Speaker 3: have really made an impression. I think a lot of
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Speaker 3: it had to do with his scouting background, his connections.
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Speaker 3: We've heard that he's very connected. You know this because
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Speaker 3: he came up in the clubhouse, likes to talk about
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Speaker 3: his days doing that. I the big takeaway for me
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Speaker 3: is he the combatative nature to the press adversarial. I
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Speaker 3: don't think he ever really conveyed to the fans what
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Speaker 3: he was attempting to do the draft and rush, and
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Speaker 3: that can be argued, sure, but I would be looking
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Speaker 3: for the most talented ballplayer with a solid makeup, not
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Speaker 3: the most solid makeup with you know that taking precedent
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Speaker 3: over the talent. I do know from hearing from enough
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Speaker 3: people to be confident in saying Perry made the entirety
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Speaker 3: of the draft selections and the free agents signings. Beyond that,
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Speaker 3: no need to speculate more. Apparently he was very heavy
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Speaker 3: handed and the selections were his. So, for better or worse,
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Speaker 3: some of these things take time. You got to look
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Speaker 3: at him down the road three four years. But the
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Speaker 3: guys he selected, you know, they've most of them have
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Speaker 3: done all right. Nolan Shaanawell is up there. Uh. You
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Speaker 3: know who else could have the Giants? Eldridge, Uh, Price Eldridge. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: he was taking a few picks after Nolan. We'll see
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Speaker 3: how that ages. You don't know, he was a high
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Speaker 3: school kid. Takes longer to develop Billy Eppler, Lean Moore
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Speaker 3: into high school picks.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 3: He also had some of the massive free agent signings
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Speaker 3: that may have been the owner, especially with Rendon. So
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Speaker 3: any GM eventually will be shown the door. What legacy
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Speaker 3: has Perry left, Well, you guys can decide.
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Speaker 1: What I like about this move is Moe was You know,
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Speaker 1: he got to start. He's a scouting director at the
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Speaker 1: Cardinals help rebuild their farm system and obviously has a lengthy,
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Speaker 1: extensive experience as a president of baseball operations for the
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Speaker 1: big league clubs. So he's got a full knowledge of
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Speaker 1: every level of the organization. You know there is some Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we were asking them at the press commence if there's
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Speaker 1: any way he would remain full time, and he kind
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Speaker 1: of left a little crack in the door, so you
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Speaker 1: never know. I can certainly if he really has a
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Speaker 1: really positive experience here and things are moving in the
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Speaker 1: right direction, I can see him sort of staying on
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Speaker 1: as a as a a baseball consultant. Maybe they bring
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Speaker 1: on a GM and he sticks as president of baseball operations,
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Speaker 1: sort of mirroring the hierarchy of many teams right now,
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Speaker 1: including the Dodgers with Andrew Friedman and Brandon Gomes. H.
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Speaker 1: We'll see. But as you said, Mark, this is a
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Speaker 1: baseball guy, not saying Perry wasn't, but I think his
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Speaker 1: background is far more expensive his experiences and has proven
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Speaker 1: as a winner. I think that's big for the Angels. Sam,
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Speaker 1: we talked about the timing of this move. You know,
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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks are going to be huge
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Speaker 1: for this team, for this team's immediate and long term future.
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Speaker 1: What do you think the challenges are for him right now?
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Speaker 2: At the draft I thought is interesting. I mean, Perry
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Speaker 2: making all the selections. I've heard the same right and
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Speaker 2: you know I heard it even just last week at
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Speaker 2: the combine. I mean, he was Perry's there and doing
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Speaker 2: the interviews and stuff. So you know, ultimately, I think
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Speaker 2: it's good to have Tim mcklevain, which it sounds like
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Speaker 2: that's gonna be the guy who's you know, should have
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Speaker 2: been doing this all along and has the you know,
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Speaker 2: requisite background to do the job well, you know, assuming
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Speaker 2: he's in position to you know, make you know, strong selections. Hopefully,
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Speaker 2: you know, hopefully he does. Again, there's so many clues
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Speaker 2: yet that will be uncovered, I think in the draft,
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Speaker 2: in at the trade deadline, like are we going to
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Speaker 2: see you know, all the college players taken again? Which
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Speaker 2: has almost been a universal strategy for the Angels. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you take very few high school players and usually in
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Speaker 2: strategic late round overslought positions, like are they gonna do
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Speaker 2: that exact same thing? Because if that's what they do,
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Speaker 2: maybe that was just an RD decision. Ultimately all around,
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Speaker 2: you know, when you get to the trade deadline they
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Speaker 2: can hold on to all these players. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: think we'll find out then what kind of impact Moseailac
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Speaker 2: actually can have here. So yeah, I mean he's he's
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Speaker 2: got some decisions to make. But I think you know
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Speaker 2: this has been a few weeks in the making. I
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Speaker 2: would imagine he's done at least some baseline research into
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Speaker 2: what he's getting himself into and the people that he
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Speaker 2: has involved, you know, with his club, and he's got
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Speaker 2: a month now to you know, trade deadline.
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Speaker 5: I believe he was a little.
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Speaker 2: After I think it's August third, so he's got he's
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Speaker 2: got some time. So we'll see, you know. I don't
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Speaker 2: know exactly where where, you know, what he has to
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Speaker 2: do to put himself in good position, but I think
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Speaker 2: we'll find out, you know, how much autonomy actually has
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Speaker 2: in the next few weeks, or.
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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to Halo Territory with Mark Trumbo, Sam
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Speaker 1: Blum and Mike D. Givanna. Well, next question I'm gonna ask.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I have the answer to, but it's
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Speaker 1: I think it's definitely worth asking. With the hiring of
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Speaker 1: a proven winner and a established guy in John mozayloc
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Speaker 1: do you guys think this is any indication that Ardie Marino,
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Speaker 1: the marcurial owner of the Angels, might actually take a
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Speaker 1: step back and stop meddling in baseball decisions.
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Sam, I have a hard time
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Speaker 2: believing it. I just if he does, maybe that's a
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Speaker 2: sign of something else. Maybe that's the sign of, you know,
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Speaker 2: selling I'm not gonna. I don't want to throw that
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Speaker 2: out there because it's you know, just keep rip. The
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Speaker 2: fan base will take it and run with it. But
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Speaker 2: I you know, I don't know. I've been around this
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Speaker 2: too long to think that Already's gonna step away and
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Speaker 2: not necessarily have a huge hand and everything it's it's
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Speaker 2: and you know, it's not always baseball, it's just everything.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like I said yesterday or earlier, what
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Speaker 2: we saw yesterday from mozay Loack was kind of a
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Speaker 2: guy who's didn't really feel like he was concerned about
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Speaker 2: what Already thought about what he was saying. I mean
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Speaker 2: even kind of criticized Already and said he's too much
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Speaker 2: of a fan, and uh, you know that that's maybe
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Speaker 2: contributed to some of the issues and you know, the
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Speaker 2: inability to make tough decisions. He really kind of sent
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Speaker 2: that out loud, and so that was I think, very
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Speaker 2: positive thing. But it's you know, I don't know if
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Speaker 2: Mozaillac fully understands the person who's who's going to be
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Speaker 2: signing his checks. And we'll see, I mean, we will see,
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Speaker 2: but I until you know, until such time that we
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Speaker 2: get to the trade deadline and you see, like if Reed, Debt,
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Speaker 2: Merjose Soreano, and jo Adell are all on different teams
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Speaker 2: on August fourth, Okay, maybe maybe there's something to that,
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Speaker 2: but there's a lot to be There's a lot that
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Speaker 2: kind of remains to be seen. And for right now,
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Speaker 2: I still think this is one hundred percent an already operation.
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Speaker 2: And I still think one hundred percent that no matter
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Speaker 2: who's in charge of baseball operations, it will be a
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Speaker 2: slog uh with already as your boss. So we'll see.
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Speaker 2: This is the right person to have, the person you
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Speaker 2: want to have in these positions as someone who who
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Speaker 2: could be fired tomorrow in his life would be the
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Speaker 2: exact same. And I think that is that is a
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Speaker 2: good thing to have. It's not I mean, I mean
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Speaker 2: Trumbo talked about, you know, passing up on more qualified
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Speaker 2: candidates to to hire Perry. I mean, I think that's
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Speaker 2: almost by design to some You hire people that you
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Speaker 2: know will be desperate to keep that job, you know
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Speaker 2: will be desperate to appease you at every turn, and
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Speaker 2: so it's good to have someone that maybe isn't that way.
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Speaker 2: And you know, we'll see how it plays out.
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Speaker 1: Mark any good feeling about this issue.
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Speaker 3: I'm wondering about the timing. We're here weeks ago. I mean,
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Speaker 3: that's a little bit ambiguous. So I was trying to
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Speaker 3: figure out what happened weeks ago. I mean, one of
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Speaker 3: the things I saw, and it was the first week
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Speaker 3: of June, they lost two of three to the Rockies
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Speaker 3: and two of three to the Dodgers, and I was
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Speaker 3: hypothesizing maybe the especially with the Rockies, I think for
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Speaker 3: an owner like already looking at the Rockies, who've been well,
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Speaker 3: they've been a laughing stock for a long time, and
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Speaker 3: now they're headed in maybe a little bit better direction.
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Speaker 3: Records still isn't there yet, but more talent, different people
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Speaker 3: in charge, you know, seem to be going a different direction.
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Speaker 3: Mom Ford always predicted improvements on his club year after year,
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Speaker 3: didn't know where they were going to come from internally.
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Speaker 3: Bounce back something, but he went out and found some
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Speaker 3: different people, and the Angels may feel like they may
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Speaker 3: have felt like they were the last ones that the
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Speaker 3: White Sox thriving, doing quite well and kind of on
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Speaker 3: an island did, and don't want to be on that
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Speaker 3: island any longer. One question for either of you or Mike,
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Speaker 3: how about you? What's the advantage to doing or releasing
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Speaker 3: this kind of press on a Friday?
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Speaker 8: Is there?
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Speaker 4: Well?
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Speaker 1: I think they took that right out of the page
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Speaker 1: of most political you know, administration's playbook. It's the classic
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Speaker 1: Friday news dump. I don't you know, a lot of
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Speaker 1: teams like to control the narrative. I hate that phrase.
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Speaker 1: It's such a cliche. But by doing it Friday was
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Speaker 1: in an hour before the game, I think we got
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Speaker 1: the email. You know, they don't have to make those
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Speaker 1: you know, Molly Jolly or John moseyla of available that
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Speaker 1: night because we got a game to play in an hour.
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Speaker 1: They have a time to get all their you know,
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Speaker 1: their stories straight so to speak at the press conference
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Speaker 1: the next day. I don't know the timing of it. Sam,
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Speaker 1: maybe you can answer that question a little better. It
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Speaker 1: was definitely a little odd, but you know, at some
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Speaker 1: point you have to make a move. If you're going
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Speaker 1: to make a move, at some point, you got to
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Speaker 1: announce it. So maybe they felt this would have the
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Speaker 1: least blowback or whatever you might get in a situation
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Speaker 1: like that. What do you think, Sam, I.
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Speaker 2: Mean, I think the stratagy. I mean I hated it.
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Speaker 2: You know, look at what the Mets. The Mets fire
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Speaker 2: their manager in the morning and then they had the
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Speaker 2: you know, early afternoon, they did the whole thing, and
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Speaker 2: then they played the game and life went on. And
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Speaker 2: I think that's how you're supposed to do this. I
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Speaker 2: think if you know, the Angels were one, I mean,
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Speaker 2: I mean their line is that they wanted to let
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Speaker 2: the players know in person and not see it on
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Speaker 2: Twitter whatever. I don't really buy that. I think for me,
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Speaker 2: like what they probably were going for, and what makes
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Speaker 2: some sense to me is that, you know, you make
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Speaker 2: Friday Night about the old right, like Perry getting fired.
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Speaker 2: That's that's kind of the news story at a time
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Speaker 2: when people aren't paying attention to the news. Late on
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Speaker 2: a Friday night, in the middle of June, beautiful evening,
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Speaker 2: nobody really is paying attention to the Angels. Obviously, the
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Speaker 2: crowd was pretty pretty small and for a giveaway night,
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Speaker 2: and then you make Saturday about kind of the future,
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Speaker 2: and and you know, if you listen to Molly Jolly,
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Speaker 2: I don't think she even said Perry's name the whole Prescott.
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Speaker 2: I mean she, you know, she did the introduction, didn't
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Speaker 2: mention Perry. Once I asked about Perry. Her answer did
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Speaker 2: not include his name, right like it was. I mean,
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Speaker 2: her answers were very canned and prepared, and she almost
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Speaker 2: it was a little bit it was I thought Mozilla
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Speaker 2: sounded a lot more kind of like you'd been in
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Speaker 2: that position before, which is probably the case. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean she, she and everyone else clearly wanted to
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Speaker 2: pretend that that Perry Manauzi and was not someone who
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Speaker 2: has ever really existed in this place. And you know
17:49
Speaker 2: that was that was I think the strategy. So it
17:51
Speaker 2: was to make Saturday more about the future. And you
17:53
Speaker 2: know that's why I wrote it was weird, right because
17:55
Speaker 2: it was it was like a pet rally, like you know,
17:57
Speaker 2: and you're you're sitting here at the time, they're thirty
17:59
Speaker 2: four forty nine last place, like you know, but you
18:02
Speaker 2: got this whole seller everyone's in a suit and dressed up,
18:05
Speaker 2: and then the whole office there and all these employees there,
18:07
Speaker 2: and at the end people are clapping for him, and
18:09
Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, like, this isn't some big celebration, Like
18:12
Speaker 2: you're here because of how absolutely terrible you are, right Like,
18:15
Speaker 2: this is the only reason that this is happening as
18:17
Speaker 2: we speak in you know, on June twenty seventh. So
18:20
Speaker 2: that's how I look at it. But I get the
18:22
Speaker 2: PR strategy behind it. I just don't like it.
18:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mollie Jolly remembers only a couple months into her
18:27
Speaker 1: position as team president, and she has never really been,
18:30
Speaker 1: you know, the face of the franchise in terms of
18:33
Speaker 1: the front office. So I can understand a little discomfort
18:36
Speaker 1: on her part from being in that press conference. But
18:39
Speaker 1: I will say kudos to Molly for recognizing the need
18:43
Speaker 1: to change and acknowledging that she might not be the
18:46
Speaker 1: most qualified person to enact that change one hundred percent.
18:50
Speaker 1: John Moselac, you know it takes, uh, that takes a
18:54
Speaker 1: lot of self awareness and plenty of humility for an
18:57
Speaker 1: executive in her position to do that. So I'll give
18:59
Speaker 1: her credit for that. Now, we did catch up with
19:02
Speaker 1: some players, uh, before and after Saturday's game, and we
19:06
Speaker 1: did talk to Mike Trout, the three time a l
19:09
Speaker 1: m VP about all the turmoil or turnover in the
19:12
Speaker 1: front office. Let's hear what Mike had just say. Just
19:15
Speaker 1: your reaction to the news yesterday they came out any
19:18
Speaker 1: another direction at the GM. Yeah knows.
19:21
Speaker 8: You know, I think we were all shocked by it,
19:24
Speaker 8: especially you know, during the season, but you know, it's
19:29
Speaker 8: a it's a business, and you know, let.
19:35
Speaker 1: Me out cal going back there. But yeah, no, it's
19:40
Speaker 1: surprise all you've.
19:42
Speaker 4: Experienced a lot of turnover with managers gms.
19:45
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you kind of deal with us forward?
19:48
Speaker 4: You've experienced a lot of it.
19:50
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, you know, it's just you know, meet the
19:56
Speaker 8: guy coming in, get the dome, see what the see
19:59
Speaker 8: what he's all about. You know, I had a chance
20:02
Speaker 8: to meet with him earlier, uh, just for a brief
20:04
Speaker 8: time because he was he's been running around crazy today obviously,
20:07
Speaker 8: but uh, I know he's coming from a winning organization
20:11
Speaker 8: with with the Cardinals, and you know, I'm excited to
20:13
Speaker 8: sit down with him and talk to him.
20:14
Speaker 1: Do you have some ideas for him or was this more.
20:17
Speaker 8: Just like yeah, just uh see what he's see, what
20:20
Speaker 8: he's thinking. And do you know you.
20:23
Speaker 2: Optimistic that you know that they kind of recognize that
20:26
Speaker 2: there he needs to be a change. And that's there's this,
20:28
Speaker 2: like you said, somebody's coming from a serious.
20:30
Speaker 1: Organization of lodon.
20:31
Speaker 8: Yes, I mean for sure, but ultimately comes down to
20:36
Speaker 8: just you know, myself and all of us in this
20:39
Speaker 8: round playing better. I think that's you know what it
20:42
Speaker 8: comes down to.
20:43
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta go out.
20:44
Speaker 8: There and play better. So you know, but I'm I'm
20:47
Speaker 8: excited to get to know Mo and uh you know
20:50
Speaker 8: Seaway's all out.
20:50
Speaker 1: What would your relationship like Wither?
20:52
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was good. You know, like I said, he
20:56
Speaker 8: when I come to the field, he's he He was
20:58
Speaker 8: always here, you know, working to try to get a
21:01
Speaker 8: team together, to get a winning team. You know, he
21:05
Speaker 8: was there. Wasn't all the other time where I came
21:07
Speaker 8: to the field where he wasn't here already, So you know, it's.
21:12
Speaker 4: Just uh.
21:14
Speaker 8: Yeah, there was a decision from the front, up front,
21:16
Speaker 8: front office and from the top.
21:18
Speaker 2: So what have you thought of Molly And just like
21:20
Speaker 2: the leadership, she's kind of you be broad already.
21:22
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, il, I love Molly, you know got to
21:25
Speaker 8: know her a little bit before before all this, but now,
21:29
Speaker 8: you know, or taking a taking over for John, you know,
21:32
Speaker 8: it's been great. I think she's you know, working with
21:35
Speaker 8: working with the guys, you know, working with the families,
21:37
Speaker 8: and you know, she definitely has, you know, the interest
21:41
Speaker 8: of you know, trying to get this club back on
21:43
Speaker 8: the track.
21:44
Speaker 6: One thing that I was talked about with us was,
21:46
Speaker 6: you know, building a stable organization from the ground up
21:48
Speaker 6: in the minor leagues up and sometimes.
21:50
Speaker 2: It requires patients obviously the gost to win.
21:52
Speaker 1: Right now, Just how does that make you feel when
21:54
Speaker 1: you hear something like that.
21:55
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I think you know, the the brief conversation
21:59
Speaker 8: I had, you know, with him earlier just walking to
22:01
Speaker 8: the clubhouse, you know, he was excited, and you know, I'm,
22:05
Speaker 8: like I said, I'm really interested to get to know
22:08
Speaker 8: him a little bit, and you know see the vision
22:10
Speaker 8: he as I did. I did felt great.
22:15
Speaker 4: Yeah.
22:15
Speaker 8: I think took thirty swings, fifteen off the tee and
22:19
Speaker 8: then fifteen off lips and I ran about fifty percent.
22:23
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22:31
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22:34
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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to Halo territory with Mark Trumbull, Sam
24:28
Speaker 1: Blump and Mike di Givanno. Oh guys, just thought i'd
24:30
Speaker 1: open up the floor. Any final thoughts on the shakeup
24:34
Speaker 1: in the front office, Sam anything?
24:38
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I feel like, you know, we've gone
24:39
Speaker 2: over it.
24:40
Speaker 1: I don't.
24:42
Speaker 2: I will see, you know, As like I said, it's
24:44
Speaker 2: kind of a wait and see game with with with everything,
24:47
Speaker 2: I'll be curious, you know, what they do with the
24:49
Speaker 2: people who are currently in the front office. Who stays,
24:52
Speaker 2: who goes? You know, I imagine the coaching staff will
24:56
Speaker 2: be significantly different next year. Kind of seems like Kurtszuzuki's
25:03
Speaker 2: almost he almost resigned to that is weird. After the
25:06
Speaker 2: I mean, they made Kurt talk first about all this,
25:08
Speaker 2: which was weird on Friday night, and he just kind
25:10
Speaker 2: of had no answers about anything. But yeah, I think
25:13
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be what does this look like after
25:14
Speaker 2: the season. Are they gonna have somebody in place for
25:16
Speaker 2: the for the lockout? Is is you know, moze Lo
25:19
Speaker 2: going to stick around for you know, beyond this season.
25:23
Speaker 2: Like there's just so many questions about what's next for
25:26
Speaker 2: this club. But I think it's good that those questions
25:28
Speaker 2: are at least beginning to be answered now and the
25:31
Speaker 2: process can start now. And you know, if already let
25:34
Speaker 2: it happen, I think they can be in a good position.
25:37
Speaker 4: Yeah.
25:37
Speaker 1: I'll add that Mom made it pretty clear and earned
25:40
Speaker 1: the press comments that Kurtzuzuki and the coaching staff are safe,
25:44
Speaker 1: their jobs are safe for the rest of this year,
25:47
Speaker 1: don't worry about all that stuff. So I guess that's
25:50
Speaker 1: probably provided some comfort at lease in Kurt's mind that
25:54
Speaker 1: his leash isn't really short mark any final thoughts on
25:57
Speaker 1: the shakeup.
26:00
Speaker 3: Randy Floores is the guy the name that I've heard
26:03
Speaker 3: the most from quite a few different people on who
26:06
Speaker 3: makes sense at least initially for the next general manager.
26:10
Speaker 3: Just tied to mo as We're going to call him
26:14
Speaker 3: very accomplished a playing background as well, so keep an
26:18
Speaker 3: eye on that. But I assume they'll interview quite a
26:21
Speaker 3: few people for the job, and it'll be interesting if
26:24
Speaker 3: Moe chooses to stay on. I don't know if that's
26:28
Speaker 3: telling or not. When he does decide to either stay
26:32
Speaker 3: or go, it seems like he doesn't want anywhere near
26:35
Speaker 3: the amount of hours that it takes to be a
26:36
Speaker 3: general manager on his you know, dinner plate currently, So
26:41
Speaker 3: hopefully he's able to contribute as much as he can
26:45
Speaker 3: and fit his own schedule because he's done this a
26:47
Speaker 3: long time and he can, you know, has the ability
26:50
Speaker 3: to choose what he's going to do.
26:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, as far as timeline, most said he would probably
26:56
Speaker 1: start seeking permission from teams to interview candidates for the
27:00
Speaker 1: GM job after the trade deadline. Definitely wants to have
27:04
Speaker 1: somebody in place, if I had to guess, either by
27:07
Speaker 1: the end of the season or shortly after the season. Yeah,
27:10
Speaker 1: the possibility that lockout after December may throw a wrench
27:14
Speaker 1: on those plans, but I think he admite it pretty
27:16
Speaker 1: clear that he wants to have a guy on board
27:19
Speaker 1: before his contract runs out, which is in December. Okay,
27:22
Speaker 1: let's turn our attention to Christian Moore. So Sam and
27:26
Speaker 1: I were in the clubhouse this is what Saturday night,
27:29
Speaker 1: no Friday night, and pretty empty. We were waiting to
27:34
Speaker 1: talk to a guy, and Christian Moore walks into the room.
27:37
Speaker 1: All the reporters are there. He's clearly upset. Made say
27:42
Speaker 1: comment about how few number of at bats he got
27:45
Speaker 1: in the big leagues. You know, there might have been
27:48
Speaker 1: some bad words in there, and credit to Joe Adele,
27:51
Speaker 1: he put a put a put a lid on that
27:53
Speaker 1: real quick, so like basically shut him down. So he's
27:56
Speaker 1: clearly upset at being demoted. H And we did ask
28:01
Speaker 1: Kurtzuzuki the next day about Christian and he also talked about,
28:06
Speaker 1: you know, the decision in terms of this kid was
28:09
Speaker 1: not playing that much at the big league level. He's
28:11
Speaker 1: still one of your top prospects. It's not doing a
28:13
Speaker 1: many good sitting on the bench three fourth straight days here.
28:16
Speaker 1: So let's hear what Kurt had to say about that.
28:19
Speaker 1: I just want to start with the roster move today
28:22
Speaker 1: seriously into the decision to have as audience.
28:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously the opportunity to play every day, you know,
28:30
Speaker 4: because we didn't feel like it's not fair to him
28:32
Speaker 4: to come here and not play every day and he
28:33
Speaker 4: didn't get his normal raps at that something like that.
28:36
Speaker 8: So that was the main part of the.
28:39
Speaker 5: With the Parry party yesterday made the decisions.
28:45
Speaker 4: Oh men, John, we talked about it and we felt
28:48
Speaker 4: like this was, you know, the best decision going forward.
28:52
Speaker 8: What was the.
28:53
Speaker 9: Balance between having him up here gets more experience it
28:56
Speaker 9: also a.
28:57
Speaker 4: Challenge and not having everybody that Yeah, it's definitely I
29:01
Speaker 4: guess that's the question, right and the biggest thing is
29:03
Speaker 4: how much they're gonna play.
29:04
Speaker 8: You don't want a young guy to.
29:05
Speaker 1: Come up and set the bench and not play.
29:07
Speaker 4: And whether it's at the venture one day or or
29:10
Speaker 4: things that you wanted to play every day consistently. So
29:12
Speaker 4: we just felt like at this time that wasn't the
29:15
Speaker 4: best option for us to hear and you know, we've
29:17
Speaker 4: had to.
29:18
Speaker 5: Do is he's still going to play different positions down there,
29:20
Speaker 5: or they gonna stick to points.
29:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're talking about that now. But right now we
29:24
Speaker 4: got them playing some third, second and leftfield. Still we
29:27
Speaker 4: still have to discuss how we want to move forward
29:30
Speaker 4: of position lives how much.
29:32
Speaker 2: Bass that just because we after getting out and it
29:34
Speaker 2: looked like he gave you as a little upset about
29:36
Speaker 2: it became in the club bass where Bret you kind
29:38
Speaker 2: of feel like he's dead into right.
29:39
Speaker 4: I think any player, right, I think that's what makes
29:42
Speaker 4: them good, is the fire that they have. They disappointed obviously, and.
29:46
Speaker 8: You know there's no mystery to that.
29:48
Speaker 4: I mean every guy would be disappointed, So you know,
29:51
Speaker 4: I don't follow him for that. He's upset and he
29:53
Speaker 4: felt like he should be here and that's what drives
29:55
Speaker 4: him to be a good player.
29:57
Speaker 1: How much if he took a mark. He's probably seen
30:01
Speaker 1: this scene play out in the clubhouses over the years.
30:04
Speaker 1: Many times guys get upset obviously when they're sent down.
30:10
Speaker 1: But can you look at this and think this is
30:12
Speaker 1: probably an isolated incident? Is this maybe a one off?
30:15
Speaker 1: Or does this kid need a little bit of an
30:16
Speaker 1: attitude adjustment?
30:20
Speaker 3: I had, Well, let's say I'll to just talk about
30:23
Speaker 3: my time with the Angels, those that did something like this,
30:28
Speaker 3: and it did happen a few times, didn't go too
30:31
Speaker 3: well for him. It was a different regime, different manager,
30:35
Speaker 3: but it wasn't tolerated, and you got to be professional.
30:41
Speaker 3: And I do wonder the motivations for more. I understand
30:46
Speaker 3: being upset. Who is he upset at? I guess the manager,
30:50
Speaker 3: the front office. You know, his statistics weren't Yes, he
30:54
Speaker 3: only got twenty at bats, he punched out eleven times.
30:58
Speaker 3: His left field defense left a lot to be desired.
31:00
Speaker 3: He didn't he didn't look the part out there. I
31:02
Speaker 3: don't think anyone would say that he looked good by
31:05
Speaker 3: any stretch. He didn't look natural. I don't think it's
31:07
Speaker 3: a great fit for him. So where do you play him?
31:11
Speaker 3: You got a couple options. Second base I think makes
31:14
Speaker 3: the most sense. But I don't know if he would
31:17
Speaker 3: reasonably have an argument to say he's outperformed Denser Guzman,
31:21
Speaker 3: who's been playing excellent defense and contributing with the bat.
31:26
Speaker 3: He hasn't looked overmatched at all. His stats were excellent
31:29
Speaker 3: in Salt Lake, and I guess who's aren't. But it's
31:34
Speaker 3: one of those things that an outburst like that, that's it.
31:39
Speaker 3: It's not. It doesn't. It seems very immature, and I
31:42
Speaker 3: wonder if part of it's because he's seen the other
31:44
Speaker 3: first round picks get rifled up so quick and he's
31:48
Speaker 3: a first round pick and he's playing in Triple A.
31:51
Speaker 1: What do you think, Mike, Well, I think you know.
31:54
Speaker 1: You also you mentioned Guzman. You also have Parraza and
31:58
Speaker 1: Walton who are both playing pretty well, who can play
32:00
Speaker 1: second base, and you know Wade Meckler and left field.
32:05
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, the kid's just not being a realist.
32:08
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the situation. You're a number one
32:10
Speaker 1: pick from a few years ago. You're playing every couple
32:14
Speaker 1: of games, and you're you know, we're trying to get
32:17
Speaker 1: you acclimated the left field. How do you get acclimated
32:19
Speaker 1: to the left field at the big league level when
32:22
Speaker 1: you're only playing left field maybe every fourth or fifth day.
32:25
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. If he's a realist, he's
32:27
Speaker 1: gonna look at it and say, you know, I'm better
32:29
Speaker 1: off playing every day at Triple A right now. Maybe
32:32
Speaker 1: he's got to get a swing right. Maybe he goes
32:34
Speaker 1: down there and plays left field four times a week
32:37
Speaker 1: instead of once or twice a week here, so to me,
32:40
Speaker 1: it's a real sign of immaturity. Is when I saw
32:43
Speaker 1: that outburst, That's what I thought, Like, this kid has
32:46
Speaker 1: to grow up a little bit. I mean, look at
32:49
Speaker 1: the situation. Mark, you said on the show many times
32:52
Speaker 1: you try to be a really good self evaluator. To me,
32:54
Speaker 1: this kid's really failing in that department.
32:57
Speaker 2: Sam, what do you I mean? I think there's a
32:59
Speaker 2: couple things like you know one, I mean, even sitting
33:02
Speaker 2: in the Angels clubhouse, I was, I noticed like they
33:04
Speaker 2: have all these like copied. I think it's like baseball perspectives.
33:07
Speaker 2: It says the natural and it's a picture of Connor Griffin.
33:09
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, this is a guy who I'm
33:11
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not an easy position that he's in, right,
33:13
Speaker 2: Like Christian Moore has taking one pick ahead of Connor Griffin.
33:16
Speaker 2: I think, you know it is a like, yeah, well
33:21
Speaker 2: it wasn't great. I you know, I think that maybe was.
33:25
Speaker 2: You know, you want to handle that better. And uh,
33:27
Speaker 2: you know, obviously Mark's been in these club has been
33:29
Speaker 2: in these moments, you know, under understands kind of the
33:31
Speaker 2: dynamics at play. And I give Joe Adell credit for
33:34
Speaker 2: maybe quashing it before it became something worse, you know,
33:38
Speaker 2: and credit to Joe because Joe's been in that position
33:41
Speaker 2: himself probably many probably more time, more times than we
33:44
Speaker 2: even remember. But yeah, it's just it's tough. I mean,
33:48
Speaker 2: he's he's Christian Moore's dominated at the triple A level.
33:50
Speaker 2: How do you develop I think the question is can
33:52
Speaker 2: they really develop him? What do they need to do
33:53
Speaker 2: to get him so you know, he's he's able to
33:56
Speaker 2: succeed here. I don't disagree with him. It's twenty at bats,
33:58
Speaker 2: but you know, like Mark said, they were not good
34:00
Speaker 2: twenty They were twenty not very good at bats, and
34:02
Speaker 2: the defense wasn't very good and they kind of locked
34:04
Speaker 2: a little bit at some of these positions. So what
34:07
Speaker 2: do you do. It's a it's not an ideal spot,
34:08
Speaker 2: but can you develop him a triple A? I mean,
34:10
Speaker 2: can he can he become a hitter that you know,
34:14
Speaker 2: cuts down on the swing and miss that can catch him,
34:16
Speaker 2: to a fastball that can recognize off speed. I mean,
34:18
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know where the next step
34:20
Speaker 2: is for him, but you know, maybe it starts with
34:22
Speaker 2: a little bit of maturity. But I think for him,
34:24
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he's come across as a to
34:26
Speaker 2: me as someone that that you know mentally can handle
34:29
Speaker 2: this pressure, I just don't know, you know what that
34:34
Speaker 2: looks like. And I think he this was not a
34:37
Speaker 2: good look for him.
34:38
Speaker 1: For the record that was Baseball Digest, that Baseball was
34:42
Speaker 1: on the cover of Fine magazine. I've done some work
34:46
Speaker 1: for We're going to close the show on a positive note.
34:49
Speaker 1: Kirby Yates Saturday night notched his one hundredth career save
34:54
Speaker 1: against the Athletics. And I know that may not seem
34:57
Speaker 1: a big deal. Like a big deal and elite close
35:00
Speaker 1: will rack up one hundred saves and three, maybe four seasons,
35:03
Speaker 1: But as Kurtzuzuki said after the game quote, it takes
35:06
Speaker 1: a special person to get those last three outs of
35:09
Speaker 1: a baseball game. And Yeates, who's now thirty nine in
35:12
Speaker 1: his twelve big league season, has done it at the
35:15
Speaker 1: highest level for one hundred times. So to me, that's
35:18
Speaker 1: a pretty solid achievement. And Yates also showed some resilience
35:23
Speaker 1: this year. After recording his ninety nine save on May
35:26
Speaker 1: twenty third, he suffered a loss, three blown saves, or
35:31
Speaker 1: actually was three losses and a blown save lost. His
35:35
Speaker 1: closer job came back and he's had four straight scoreless
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Speaker 1: innings and a three point six ERA in twenty games
35:42
Speaker 1: for the Angels. Obviously missed some time at the beginning
35:45
Speaker 1: of the year for because of an injury. Mark has
35:49
Speaker 1: this guy turned into an asset for this boat pen.
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Speaker 3: I think Kirby is throwing the ball a heck of
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Speaker 3: a lot better. I know that he talked about his
35:58
Speaker 3: lower body strength being not where he wanted it to
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Speaker 3: be early in the year, not allowing him to get
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Speaker 3: into some of the positions that he needs to to
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Speaker 3: deliver the pitches in the fashion that has made him successful.
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Speaker 3: So I think he's back in physical shape, and I
36:16
Speaker 3: mean he's looking No one can argue that he hasn't
36:18
Speaker 3: looked better. And I think this is the version of
36:21
Speaker 3: him that most everyone was looking forward to and counting on.
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Speaker 3: He still has had fantastic numbers against right handed hitters,
36:30
Speaker 3: and he's you know, as long as he can limit
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Speaker 3: the damage against lefties, he's going to be a guy
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Speaker 3: that you can count on. He's got the experience and
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Speaker 3: if the pitches are there too, the Angels are going
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Speaker 3: to be better because of it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, as we said, Yates had to wait over a
36:43
Speaker 1: month for his hundred save, and we did catch up
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Speaker 1: on them after the game, and here's what he had
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Speaker 1: to say.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it, thank you, And i'd been a little
36:54
Speaker 2: while before you he's ninety nine. I mean that much
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Speaker 2: that you feel.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was you know, it took a while, I think,
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Speaker 5: you know, ultimately, it's probably the longest one I've ever
37:01
Speaker 5: had to get. But I'm glad it's over at cool,
37:06
Speaker 5: you know, glad I find I got another chance to
37:08
Speaker 5: do it. And I wasn't, you know, so sure i'd
37:10
Speaker 5: get another chance a couple of weeks ago, but you know,
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Speaker 5: finally got one to throw the ball well, so you know,
37:15
Speaker 5: it all worked out. Scam has a crazy way of
37:17
Speaker 5: working itself out that.
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Speaker 8: You haven't mentioned better recently. What do you think kind
37:20
Speaker 8: of running too.
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Speaker 5: That you know, there's some things me and Don were
37:23
Speaker 5: working out, probably trying to get back into the lower
37:25
Speaker 5: half a little bit better. You know, something clicked, I
37:29
Speaker 5: don't know, two weeks ago, and just it feels like
37:32
Speaker 5: the ball's coming out better at staying on playing a
37:34
Speaker 5: lot more, you know, split standing on playing a lot longer,
37:39
Speaker 5: you know, and I've been getting a lot more.
37:40
Speaker 1: Swing and missus.
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Speaker 5: So I think, you know, it's finally where the results
37:43
Speaker 5: are kind of showing up. Is the way I feel
37:45
Speaker 5: like I've been throwing the ball.
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Speaker 4: You mentioned getting your lower body more obviously the beginning
37:50
Speaker 4: season he dealt with that lower body injury at the
37:52
Speaker 4: beginning of the season.
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Speaker 6: Was any issue maybe trying to find that balance or
37:56
Speaker 6: trying to get back in a.
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Speaker 5: Lower leg Yeah, I mean, you know, my legs weren't
37:59
Speaker 5: very strong, you know, so finally had some time to
38:02
Speaker 5: build up and get conditioned, get.
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Speaker 3: You know, stronger in the late room.
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Speaker 5: You know, and find those positions that I probably wasn't
38:09
Speaker 5: able to get into earlier. And you know, it seems
38:12
Speaker 5: like I'm getting into them a little bit more efficiently
38:14
Speaker 5: and you know, kind of being able to stick the
38:17
Speaker 5: landing and have the all come.
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Speaker 2: Out after that.
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Speaker 5: I think it's huge. So yeah, you know, I think
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Speaker 5: I like where I'm at right now. You know, we
38:24
Speaker 5: still got a long way to go, well, you know,
38:26
Speaker 5: for another three and a half four months and whatever
38:28
Speaker 5: it is.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, right now, I feel good.
38:31
Speaker 5: You know, keep it going and just try to keep
38:33
Speaker 5: working on it every day.
38:34
Speaker 1: You handle righties pretty well this year. What can you
38:37
Speaker 1: do to combat leftie slowly cool thing.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think the lefty thing was. You know,
38:43
Speaker 5: it's really been two swings. It's been McNeil, and it's
38:45
Speaker 5: been Pretty's Pretty's Homer's two homers. Other than that, you know,
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Speaker 5: I feel like I like what I've been doing against them.
38:52
Speaker 5: I think those two swings kind of inflate the members
38:54
Speaker 5: a little bit. You know, I'm getting better at commandity
38:57
Speaker 5: of baseball. I think as I get better at commanding
38:59
Speaker 5: of as well, you know, those memories will go back
39:01
Speaker 5: to where they are.
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Speaker 2: Games.
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Speaker 1: Sam, what do you think you a little more bullish
39:08
Speaker 1: on Kirby Yates in your bullpen right now? Sure?
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Speaker 2: I mean, congrats to him. I think Sam Bachman should
39:14
Speaker 2: be closing games. That's you know, more for the Angel's future,
39:19
Speaker 2: maybe for the you know, trade deadline things like that. Yeah,
39:23
Speaker 2: I think Sam Bachman should be the closer. I'm glad
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Speaker 2: he got us, he got a hundred, and I think
39:26
Speaker 2: you're right Kirbyates is pitching it. You know, maybe what
39:29
Speaker 2: they were hoping for when they you know, sign him
39:31
Speaker 2: with moved to five million dollar contract. Also would love to,
39:34
Speaker 2: you know, pretty cool to see Sam and Tara get
39:37
Speaker 2: his first save on Sunday, you know, and so he's
39:41
Speaker 2: someone that kind of looks like filled that role too.
39:44
Speaker 2: So I mean this bullpen is like turned from you
39:47
Speaker 2: know one where there were kind of these last legs
39:50
Speaker 2: pitchers who really weren't performing very well, to something a
39:54
Speaker 2: lot better. And it's, you know, I think been a
39:57
Speaker 2: part of why they're you know, the you know playing
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Speaker 2: you know, not necessarily you get to every single game
40:04
Speaker 2: you have a lead where it feels like it's gonna
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Speaker 2: be blown. They still have blown some games. They don't
40:08
Speaker 2: have a ton of saves. They're not a great bullpen,
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Speaker 2: but it's better and I think Kirbyate's performing better as
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Speaker 2: part of that. But there are some other options there
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Speaker 2: that I think should be getting those ninth inning chances
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Speaker 2: when they're available.
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Speaker 1: All right, and we will close the show with that.
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