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#145 Only Thing Hughesy Loves More Than A Gig… Is His Family · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to three doting dads.
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  Speaker 2: I am Mattie Jay, I'm Ash and I'm Dave Hughy
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  Speaker 2: Hughes and thanks for having me, thanks for including me,
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for widening your doting dad circle.
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  Speaker 1: It is an absolute pleasure. You are now a doting
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  Speaker 1: dad and Husey. In case you didn't realize, this is
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  Speaker 1: a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, it
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  Speaker 1: is the.
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  Speaker 2: Bad and the relatable.
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  Speaker 1: Ash Night, for legal reasons, are not allowed to give advice.
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  Speaker 1: We are mandated by a legal team.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a loophole. The guests are allowed to give advice.
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  Speaker 3: All right, great, so you do have any I'm full
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  Speaker 3: of it.
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  Speaker 2: And as Mattie knows from our time and the I'm
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  Speaker 2: a celebrity jungle, I'm full of advice.
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  Speaker 1: He's a wise man.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why you're here.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you to enlighten us. Good, to enlighten the li
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  Speaker 2: and like myself, you off and off and I come
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  Speaker 2: up with a gems and I go, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: it will help me.
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  Speaker 1: You'll be on the bus right home after this going fuck.
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  Speaker 2: I just I'm a genius. I'm a parenting genius.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know I do have to say we are,
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  Speaker 1: of course, at my kitchen table. I have a set
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  Speaker 1: of school shoes arriving school, not me. Fucking Marley has
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  Speaker 1: just grown out of her school shoes, so I have
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  Speaker 1: to order another pet. They will arrive I think during
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  Speaker 1: the record, and when anyone knocks on the door, Buster
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  Speaker 1: will bark like we're being robbed. Yep, Okay, so there's
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  Speaker 1: a knock and there's barking.
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  Speaker 2: Mate. I've got a wife who spends I think most
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  Speaker 2: of her nights are buying stuff online, and then she
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  Speaker 2: goes to work until I'm the one who has to
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  Speaker 2: be there during the day, so that happens a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to manage expectations, Dave. I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about what life was like growing up. I'm assuming
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  Speaker 1: it was super yachts, helicopters, not far from what life
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  Speaker 1: is like right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so thank you for that assumption. But no, I
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  Speaker 2: grew up in a country town in Victoria called Warnambull,
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  Speaker 2: which is about maybe thirty thousand people now it is
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  Speaker 2: probably twenty thousand when I was growing up. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: we weren't in the rich part of town. We're in
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  Speaker 2: the commission house area of town. West warnable the emphasis
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  Speaker 2: on West Hill West as and so, yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: a different time. It was more the wild West really
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  Speaker 2: in the seventies, you know. So there was like dogs
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  Speaker 2: would roam the streets. No dogs ever had to stay
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  Speaker 2: in yards. How would just roam the streets and they
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  Speaker 2: would get run over quite often any dog attacks. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there was streets you wouldn't want to ride your bike
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  Speaker 2: down because the dogs in that street were like angry.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so there's yeah more attacks than they are now,
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  Speaker 2: and dogs could survive the attacks. It was less likely
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  Speaker 2: the dog would get you know, taken to the farm,
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  Speaker 2: if you know what I mean, if a bit of kid.
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  Speaker 2: Basically the kid would have to look inside themselves and
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  Speaker 2: go why did I why did that dog buy me?
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  Speaker 3: You know one of this podcasts all about dog attacks.
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  Speaker 3: What about school? I would we would assume that you
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  Speaker 3: would be the class clown at school.
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  Speaker 2: I was a shy kid, especially early in primary school.
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  Speaker 2: I was pretty shy. Yeah, so I remember walking around
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  Speaker 2: and not speaking to anyone for probably the first month
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  Speaker 2: or two of you know, and I was just like,
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  Speaker 2: how can I get involved in that game of footy
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  Speaker 2: or something? So yeah, it took me a while to
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  Speaker 2: warm up. But once I warmed up and became comfortable, yes,
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  Speaker 2: then the humor would flow from me. Especially in high school.
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  Speaker 2: I started year ten, eleven and twelve started being pretty funny. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: did you get in a lot of trouble. Yeah, punching
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  Speaker 2: the head by a Christian brother once, who's sorry, a
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  Speaker 2: Christian brother, so yeah, and it was a Christian brother.
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  Speaker 2: Christian brother. You don't know what Christian brothers is, no enlighteness.
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  Speaker 2: So I went to most high school was at CBC
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  Speaker 2: Christian Brothers College, a Christian brother. They're Catholic, but they're
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  Speaker 2: not priests, so they don't do the like the ceremonies
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  Speaker 2: the priest do, you know, Like they don't have they
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  Speaker 2: don't say Mass. But they are sworn to celibacy and
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  Speaker 2: they hang out with other men and they hang out
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  Speaker 2: in as and I think, look, I think there is
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's not many left. It's a it's a
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  Speaker 2: it's a dying bre It seems like they're disciples. What's
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  Speaker 2: the difference. Yeah, they are, they're decided. They're like they again,
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  Speaker 2: sworn to celibacy.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the So that's no sex, right, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: sex without the title they wanted the dwindling.
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  Speaker 2: I know, and yeah, and they some of them are nice,
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  Speaker 2: but some of them really angry. And I think it might
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  Speaker 2: have been sexual frustration. I don't know, but did you do.
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  Speaker 1: Something that warranted the bunch of their head?
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  Speaker 2: It was Brother O'Brien, and Brother O'Brien was He was
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  Speaker 2: our year eleven religious education teacher, amongst other subjects he taught,
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  Speaker 2: and he wasn't respected Brother Brian. I remember Brother Brian
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  Speaker 2: walking down the corridor one day and there was probably
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  Speaker 2: fifty to sixty kids started chanting, brother is shagging the cleaner, Oh.
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  Speaker 1: My god, talk about poking? And I wonder what and
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  Speaker 1: so did you lead the chant? What was your how?
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  Speaker 2: I was probably just laughing at the chat. I didn't know,
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  Speaker 2: and it was I found it funny, but he didn't.
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  Speaker 2: You had the rhythm drum. So make sure everyone's in there.
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  Speaker 2: On my first stand up comedy gig, I Reckon was
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  Speaker 2: in Brother Brian's year eleven religious class where I hadn't
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  Speaker 2: prepared a speech on some holy figure and I just
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  Speaker 2: started in proing and the whole class were just killing
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  Speaker 2: themselves laughing. It was. It was the moment A lot
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  Speaker 2: of here we go, I've got something here, and that
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  Speaker 2: class had to judge the speeches and I got ten
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  Speaker 2: off every class member. Wow, incredible moment in my Life's
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  Speaker 2: like winning an Academy award. And but Brother Brian failed
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  Speaker 2: me in that subject. One of the only subjects I
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  Speaker 2: failed in high school was that year eleven religious education class.
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  Speaker 2: Because of that speech, I believe, and you know what,
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  Speaker 2: but that's what propelled me to do comedy. But he
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  Speaker 2: didn't punch me in the head that day. This other day,
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  Speaker 2: we was sitting there and made of mine. Moose was
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  Speaker 2: sitting near me, Moose, the big guy, and.
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  Speaker 3: I love how I love how everyone has like a
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  Speaker 3: mate named Moose or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: That Moose ended up being a policeman. So and I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't have ever given him a gun, to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: But so Moose was flicking spitballs, a little bits of
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  Speaker 2: paper that he'd like lick and then just roll up,
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  Speaker 2: and he was flicking them at Brother O'Brien at the
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  Speaker 2: front of the class. And Brother Obrian didn't see what
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  Speaker 2: was happening, and he probably had put fifteen to twenty
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  Speaker 2: spitballs on Brother O'Brien. Brother Obrian knowing, and then brother
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  Speaker 2: O'Brien looked up and realized he was covered in like
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  Speaker 2: saliva rhythm paper, and he looked up. I was the
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  Speaker 2: only one who had seen what was happening, so no
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  Speaker 2: one else in the class had seen what I'd seen
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  Speaker 2: because I'd seen Moose doing it. And his brother Brian
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  Speaker 2: looked up, saw that I was smiling, thought it must
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  Speaker 2: have been me, And then and then what he Then
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  Speaker 2: he walked to the back of the class, and I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't at the back of the class. I was like
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  Speaker 2: towards the front, and I didn't you don't do a
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  Speaker 2: turn around, but I had no idea. And then I
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  Speaker 2: just it was al mighty whack where he's king hit
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  Speaker 2: me from behind?
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  Speaker 3: His coward punched you in a classroom, brother Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Brian coward punched me. And you know, and because I
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to snitch on Moose, I couldn't say to
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  Speaker 2: him I did not deserve that because but I was
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  Speaker 2: almost concasteric.
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  Speaker 1: God, he didn't blame news another person.
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  Speaker 3: Getting counted moved me the big guy as well. To
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  Speaker 3: be honest, did he lose his job? No, because I
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  Speaker 3: didn't report it. Smart Smart pitched, but.
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  Speaker 2: He wouldn't have anyone back then. That was before they
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  Speaker 2: got rid of you know, what's the word capital, not
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  Speaker 2: capital corporal punishment, capital punishment, corporal punishment. So you were
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  Speaker 2: back then you were allowed to hit kids, did you
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  Speaker 2: when you were in primary school? Were they still using
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  Speaker 2: the cane?
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  Speaker 1: There was Miss Hunter? Yeah, Miss Hunter, and she really
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  Speaker 1: she was like eighty. She was in my sister's grade.
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  Speaker 1: It was a year above me. And I remember I
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  Speaker 1: heard rumors that everyone was like miss Hunter, if you
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  Speaker 1: get her class, because she's eighty, she's from like the
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  Speaker 1: older generation. She was still caning kids and that for
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  Speaker 1: some reason, no one really stopped her.
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  Speaker 2: She was.
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  Speaker 1: That was just like we'll just wait till she retired.
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  Speaker 2: Or she retired. It's funny like like that.
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  Speaker 3: You can imagine when they were like, look, guys weren't
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  Speaker 3: allowed to hit the students anymore, and all the teachers
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  Speaker 3: were going to be like, oh, well fuck, what do we.
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  Speaker 2: Even do this job for?
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  Speaker 1: Miss Hunter was like, well, I'm fucking leaving this protesting.
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  Speaker 1: Give her three more years, mate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would have been a shocking moment for
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  Speaker 2: this Christian Brother's college, the moment where you were allowed
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  Speaker 2: to hit kids that weird, you know, because there was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of kids. Every day some kid was getting
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  Speaker 2: like a meat rule or just snapped.
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  Speaker 1: It half over their art or it's a different time
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  Speaker 1: at different times. What was your relationship like with your
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  Speaker 1: mom and dad, Hughsy.
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  Speaker 2: It was, Look, my mum was it was again, they were.
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  Speaker 2: It was a time where it was a big drinking
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  Speaker 2: culture in my hometown. So yeah, so it was. It
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  Speaker 2: was a different time where look, dad drank a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I've talked about this before, but he's yeah, so that
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  Speaker 2: was that could be tricky when your dad is a
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  Speaker 2: big drink as you know, Maddie. So so yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That was as in your walking on eggshell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, because his mood would just go, he'd just
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  Speaker 2: get it, you know. He ended up angry, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So it was hard and so and it was he
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  Speaker 2: was a shift work as well for many years. That's
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  Speaker 2: not good for your mental health. So they're like starting
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  Speaker 2: work at midnight or starting work at you know. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: there was alcohol and shift work. The combination made life
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  Speaker 2: pretty tense in our house for a number of years. Really,
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  Speaker 2: so uh, and then I started I stopped drinking before
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  Speaker 2: I turned twenty two, and so there's Yeah. So do you.
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  Speaker 1: Think growing up with the dad who had a drinking
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  Speaker 1: problem played into the fact that you were aware of
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  Speaker 1: what alcohol can do to people? And maybe you want
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  Speaker 1: to stop?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean I don't want to sound like I'm
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  Speaker 2: holy than them. They will give myself too much credit,
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  Speaker 2: but you know what, I didn't want my kid's life
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  Speaker 2: to be as stressful as mine because of alcohol. So
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  Speaker 2: I saw the I think it's I think it's genetic.
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  Speaker 2: I reckon some people just shouldn't drink. What what do
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  Speaker 2: you mean by stressful as a child.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, as a child, you shouldn't be stressed really
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  Speaker 3: about anything other than your friends and.
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  Speaker 1: Getting punched by brother.
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  Speaker 2: If your dad's basically, you know, some of the time
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  Speaker 2: unhinged because of alcohol, that's just stressful for kids. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just not knowing what's going to you know. He
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  Speaker 2: was never really it was never really physically violent. Actually
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  Speaker 2: got to say that, but yeah, but yeah, but it
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  Speaker 2: was still the threat of what could happen? You think,
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  Speaker 2: what is going on here? So yeah, so that was
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  Speaker 2: for a number of years, like an emotional role. Yeah, absolutely, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: I remember, like, there's five kids in my family and
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  Speaker 1: there was all with four boys, there's always something that
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  Speaker 1: was going to be broken or damaged, and we felt
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  Speaker 1: like Dad used to kind of like walk the house
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  Speaker 1: looking for something.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know we're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: What was it like for you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like what sometimes what come up? Just be just
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  Speaker 2: looking for something to get angry at, basically, so grab
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  Speaker 2: grab it like a broom and then find some cobwebs
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  Speaker 2: in the top corner of like a ceiling, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, and just go look at this and
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  Speaker 2: just lose the plot for just crazy reasons. So no reason. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes like he definitely wants to be angry. Whose turn
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  Speaker 2: is it today? Who's going to comp it? Sort of?
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  Speaker 1: How do you avoid that with the kids in your family?
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  Speaker 2: So it's hard, But I was younger, so maybe I
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  Speaker 2: got off a bit easier than than some of the
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  Speaker 2: others in my Yeah, but it was it was yeah, look,
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  Speaker 2: it was. It was stressful, and you know, we well
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  Speaker 2: we loved our parents and Mum was great and Dad
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  Speaker 2: could be great. But yeah, but yeah, we sort of
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  Speaker 2: getting out of the house was there was there was
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  Speaker 2: no staying at home to you're thirty, because it was
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  Speaker 2: you didn't want to it was too stressful basically, so
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  Speaker 2: just get out, basically leave. How are you when you
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  Speaker 2: left left hand? I was I first. I was eighteen
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  Speaker 2: when I first left, and just after high school. And
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  Speaker 2: then yeah, but I came back because I got evicted
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  Speaker 2: from it. I was a bad drinker too, So we
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  Speaker 2: got evicted from a house. I ended up coming back home,
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  Speaker 2: which that was because I didn't know where else to live.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what I remember, we were I lived
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  Speaker 2: in a house. I used to call it a mad house.
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  Speaker 2: So at the age of eighteen, I moved in with
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  Speaker 2: four mates and we just we were crazy. And it
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  Speaker 2: was like we'd all like everyone had drink stubbies in
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  Speaker 2: the lounge room and then someone would just throw a
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  Speaker 2: stubby into a wall and then you know, everyone else
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  Speaker 2: we did be smashing glass and then you like walk
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  Speaker 2: around glass. That's wasn't I wasn't Moose. Then Moose was
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  Speaker 2: involved a bit, but yeah, but then so it was
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  Speaker 2: a crazy house. Actually, now I think about it, we're
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  Speaker 2: in a crazy house when I was eighteen or ninety
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  Speaker 2: and we had feral cats move into the house. That's
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  Speaker 2: not good, and.
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  Speaker 1: That's like that's how.
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  Speaker 2: Men and animal is just running. We eventually got evicted
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  Speaker 2: from this house. And then I went home and I
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  Speaker 2: took all my bedding home, but I had, like, I
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  Speaker 2: brought home scabies to my parents. What are scabies? Scabies
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  Speaker 2: are like little lice that live in your bedding when
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  Speaker 2: you're bed bug when it's bed barks and like scabies.
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  Speaker 2: And you're like, that was not like a sexual disease.
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  Speaker 1: It was like the eighteenth century, like sailors would get
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  Speaker 1: scaled scurvy.
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  Speaker 2: I see the confusion.
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  Speaker 3: Then my parents got home skirvy from the sharehouse.
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  Speaker 2: Both parents end up with this terrible skin condition because
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  Speaker 2: of the the lice infested bedding on brought my fucking
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  Speaker 2: dad's from this house I've been evicted from as like, yeah, so,
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  Speaker 2: but you know I stopped drinking not long after that actually,
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, so when you.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about the fact that you're bringing scabies back home,
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  Speaker 1: you fucking got smashed bb tallies on the floor. Your
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  Speaker 1: life sounds like a bit of a mess.
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  Speaker 2: Feral cats for one of it. Yeah, your farah cats
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  Speaker 2: they follow you home or not. No, feral cats did
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  Speaker 2: not follow something. God for that. But that was, oh God,
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  Speaker 2: that was that was a terrible time.
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  Speaker 1: Was it a real fork? In the road moment when
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  Speaker 1: you stopped drinking, that life got on track.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was absolutely. So I came back and lived
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  Speaker 2: with my parents, and yeah, my father had probably he'd
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  Speaker 2: stopped doing a shift work by now, so that life
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  Speaker 2: was easier. He was still like, you know, would still
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  Speaker 2: drink every day, but he was he was calmer than
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  Speaker 2: what he had been when I was younger, to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: So that was you know, it was it was okay
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  Speaker 2: to live at home then. But yeah, but I was
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  Speaker 2: really depressed and I was like, and I sort of
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  Speaker 2: connected it to the drinking, I think, and then so
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  Speaker 2: and I just decided to stop because I would always
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  Speaker 2: get out of control when I drank, So I decided
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  Speaker 2: to stop. And yeah, so I stopped before I turned
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  Speaker 2: twenty two, and I started feeling better straight away. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so it was then it was like, you know, that
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  Speaker 2: was nineteen ninety two, was my last drink. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so and yeah, and I was twenty one, so it
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  Speaker 2: was a big thing to do. And like kids that age,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, you know, a party, party, party, So I've
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  Speaker 2: just gone full party mode. If other people weren't drinking,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, why aren't you drinking? Why do you
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  Speaker 2: hate us? You know, we're having a good time and
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  Speaker 2: you're ruining it because you're sober. You know, leave Basically,
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  Speaker 2: so I was that guy to being the guy who
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  Speaker 2: didn't drink. So yeah, it was weird for my friends
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  Speaker 2: for a while. But then I did know been the
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  Speaker 2: designated driver and so they were happy with that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I had some terrible driving experiences with drunks in my car.
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  Speaker 2: I had a guy, look, he's move not another guy
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  Speaker 2: is no longer with us? But he he once I
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  Speaker 2: was doing, I was so annoyed by him. He was
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  Speaker 2: I was doing like eighty k's driving. It's in person.
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  Speaker 2: I moved to person not long after I stopped drinking.
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  Speaker 2: And he's another guy from Wannable. He was so crazy
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: that I were driving down this beach road in Perth,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: and I was so annoyed with him. But he climbed
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: out of the car window of the passenger side and
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: onto the bonnet. But I was so annoyed at him
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: that I didn't want to. I want I wanted to.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I wanted him to fall off the car. But so
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I'm driving. You did start this saying he's no longer
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: with us? Was always he was always going to die young.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: But it was like he's staring through the window at me.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I'm doing eighty k's I'm going to just put your
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: head down. I want to see where I'm going. And
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I was trying to remember, trying to like get him
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: off on a corner like so I had think he'd
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: roll off the car, but he held on to the
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: windscreen wipers and I did not want to break the winds.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: He's done this before, he knows what he's doing.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Crazy, that's a crazy time. Did he come off? He
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: didn't come off then, but he was back into the
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: window and he was he was crazy. I remember once
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: did you.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Get to a destination at his house? And thank you?
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: So we were living together the time. It was terrible.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Remember once were sitting in the lounge and like watching
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Wheel of Fortune or something, and he said, on bored
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: but and then so he just grabbed the really heavy
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: lounge chair and just just picked it up and then
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: just dropped it on his own head. And he's just oh,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: he went back sitting there and he's just bleeding watching television.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I sat back down, sat down like, oh that's a psychopath.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: That's yeah, well yeah, fortune, it's like the wheel keeps
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: spitting around. Someone stop it.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Ninety two is when you stopped drinking. Yes, do you
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: remember the year that you met Holly?
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, two thousand and two, ten years later.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And by then, and not to pass yourrego, you were
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: doing very well for yourself.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, I just started doing radio in Melbourne.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I'd started the TV show as well on the ABC,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I was, I was, I was, I was
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: the god.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Which is it's weird that you met in the bar
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: because you're sober. Yeah, but that's that's all you guys
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: cross paths.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, she barely drinks as well, to be honest, So
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: which is good. If I mean, I've said this a
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: million times, but if you're if you're if you don't drink,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: you want to be with somebody doesn't drink. If you're like,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you know, a full time heroin junkie, you want to
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: be with another full time heroin junkie. And I think
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: that's love. Yes, and then you can get through I reckon,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: You've got to be on the same page as your
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: partner When they say soul mate, that's exactly what that is.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: You see, you know, a crackhead couple walking down the
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: street and then you know they're in love. But it's baby,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: that's what they do, fight together. Family anyway. So yeah,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: so we met in the bars or just a fluke
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: on a Friday night that will both happen to be
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: in the same bars. She was with a group of blokes. Actually,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: she just broke up with a boyfriend. And these blokes
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: came up to say get out of me because they'd
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: recognize me. And I saw her behind them, and yeah,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: she was stunning, and I'm like, my god, that woman's beautiful.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: And and then we got talking and her friends left
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: and my friends were leaving as well, so I was like,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: this is perfect. Then one of my friends who had
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: no money and I lived with him at the time,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: not Moose or the other guy, he said, I've got
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: no money. You're driving. I said, well, sorry, I'm talking
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: to this person here, so just walk. Yeah, he wouldn't.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: He refused to walk, and I said, oh god, I
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: said can he? I said, I'll give you money for
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: tax I didn't have any money on me. I said,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: let's walk to the ADM. I'll get your money, so
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: you can piss off. And as we're walking to the ATM,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: she started talking to him. I thought, does she want
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: him this? I don't like this, and so I got
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: annoyed at him and I said to her, we're going
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: to go. So I drove him home, yelling at him.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: And because Holly didn't come with you, didn't he cock blocker? Yeah?
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And she given she just started as a journalist at
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: one of the local newspapers and she'd given me her card,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: but then she gave him her card. That's confusing, and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: that was annoying to me. That was the moment I was,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I don't like this, so I don't want him to
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: So I yelled him as we as we drove, and
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I said, you should have walked, mate.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: She used to get on and broke broke.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's only like a six k walk
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: that night and exactly exercise for anyway. So talk about
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: it on the radio on the Monday, and her friends
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: apparently were listening to the radio and they rang her
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: or texted her, and then she called in to the
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: radio station. Didn't go on hour, but she said to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: our producer, I was, you know, I was just being
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: friendly to your friend, and I said, hang on, maybe
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I'm a chance. So I rang her that day and.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: So your producers said, husy, she's on the on the phone.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: She wouldn't go on hour, but she said yeah, but
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: got the got the Yeah, she got the store. I
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: got the story that she was possibly keen. So that
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: gave me the impetus to ring her that day. And
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: then we went to Imax that night. Yeah, that night
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: had free tickets. So we saw some some three D thing.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: It was like a space thing, was a short thing.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: It was only like forty five minutes. Good, that's all
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you needed to be. Yeah, but we have these massive
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: helmets on there are three D things there were you
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: look beautiful to You're going to space yourself or something.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: So yeah, but that was the Yeah, so that night
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: from that night were still being together.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Now did you ever ask her why she gave two
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: cards away, one to you, one to your friend.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: She said she was just being nice. I don't know
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: if she was playing the field all night at the time, so.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: She was just planning the seat.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like walking around the bar. Gain. So she
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: was proud of her cards. You know, laminated cards.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Your first card is laminated.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Do you ever get laminated? My used car salesman cards
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: were laminated. They were just flimsy cardboarder.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Getting a card as a salesman somewhere. I think I
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: worked at Optus or something and I didn't make any money,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: but I had a card, you know. So yeah I
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: don't have a card, you feel like you're my winner.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: My grandmother has all of my cards, all of my
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: dad's business cards in a folder, so we should find
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: that because I've had an array of different when I
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: was a Prince salesman.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: She loved that card. Anyway you can Maddie hasn't had
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: a card. If you never had a card, No.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I did. I did. I did. I had one in
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: London and it was just it's a shame because it
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: was right at the end of the card phase, so
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: like it was always like damn it was. Yeah, it
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: was kind of laughable to hand one out, but I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: was still I was like, holy I was, I'd get
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I'd get a coffee.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: And you're just dishing about. Yeah.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never it was never handed out with much purpose. Yeah,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I look, I.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Think I was. I never really just gave to my grandmother.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I don't give a shout out to all salespeople here.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: They work really hard. Salespeople worked so hard.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: That is an absolute lie.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: No, if you work on commission, they yeah, it's a
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: dog eat dog. It's every day. The scoreboard gets like
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: a race. You got to start again every day. Really
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: hard work. Salespeople well done with the backbone of I
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: shouldn't hang up on you as much as I do. No, yeah,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about Nigerian sales people. They're they're nice,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: they're great. I don't hang up on them. You know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: you wait for that silence on the call. Do you
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: answer the calls?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I don't get any. I'm not getting any of the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: text from class. I'm not getting any of the sales
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: calls from Nigeria. I'm missing out.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: You've got a private number, some weird sort of thing
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: that he is one of those guys in the private.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I'm oping I'm waiting for it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: He's like, no, I don't get his prank calls anymore. So.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: So I've had the same number for I reckon twenty
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: five years, maybe longer. And I used to, like on
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Saturday nights, I'd be like, answer the phone. Yeah, it's
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: it's Jimmy. I don't know you. Yeah you do, No,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I don't you do? And that was enough for me.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Now that they don't call anymore. Man, it's really sad.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I don't answer.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I'm part of the generation that it's scared to answer
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: their phone in case it's bad news.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, I don't need the bad news. Yeah, in
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: case you end up giving you left kidney to someone. Yeah,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: if you get I'm gonna rub.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I only really answer his calls my last cause that's
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: probably about it. Thank you.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Enough.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Do you remember who was yourself or Holly who spearheaded
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the baby making process?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I was her? Yeah, absolutely she. I wasn't never that.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I wasn't like you know, someone, I wasn't yearning. I
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: didn't realize how to yearn. There was no yearn for
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: me for children. But she was straight away, like straight away.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: She has been maternal forever basically, so not a not
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: a nightclub person. So I think there's two types of people,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: maternal people and nightclub people. And she wasn't a nightclub person.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: So she was like early on in the relationship, I
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: remember saying that I did a joke about her, but
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: she said, we have kids in three years. I'm like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: this is early on. I'm like, before you were married. Yeah,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: three years, we're going out like we've been probably out
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: three months when she said that, yeah, real early, and
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean, I said, no, I'm not sure
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: about that, but we're gonna have ficking ship tonight. So
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: in the moment, yeah, so yeah, but she was always
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: really keen. So took six years to have our first
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: one was two thousand and nine, so said, seven years
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: before we first had our son.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: You made her so she wanted three?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: You made a wait, do she wanted more than she
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: wanted more than three kids? She wanted? Yeah, actually yeah,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I made it. Make double that. You're right, good masks,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: but yes, but she I thought you said three kids,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: but no you didn't. You were talking about earlier. I
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: understand what you both say. You do that things like
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: every time you mentioned I'm going to double the years,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: you got to wait. But you know what, once we
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: had them, I was, you know, one year, as you
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: guys know, once you have one, you're like you're in love.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And I, yeah, I was very happy to have three,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: and I actually wanted to have more. And she I
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: thought she wanted that five initially. But she's like, she said,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: if you want to have more, if we're gonna have
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: more kids, you need to stop, you know, touring stand
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: up comedy. So I said, no, three's enough enough. So
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I gave up more children because I love stand up comedy.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I said, that's my first love. I just love it
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: more than I don't love more than my children. Don't
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: get me wrong, but as much so you got three.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: You have to you have to caveat that. We can
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: after record. You can be honest and tell.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Us, yeah, you got three. And I don't know if
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: you've heard, but our young man over here.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I know I have my wife and children passed on
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: their congratulations.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah to me.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: But do you have any tips for a third with Matt?
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Matt's been debating for a while, and now it's happening.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Educate the man. Three is a lot harder, Yeah, no doubt. Three.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Two is easy. Two is easy. One ag three It's
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: much more work than you would have thought. You know.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I get really conflicting messages.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I have.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Some people say, once you're in that that realm of
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: multiple kids, adding a third is no big deal. But
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: why was it? What's harder about it?
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you're outnumbered, and I'm not
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: the first one to say that, but yeah, and it's
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: just just one each. You can you've got two and
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: you've got two parents, you can both. You know, it's
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: can manage one of them, so next to one, right, Yeah,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: just hit me out for a second. If it's two
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: on two, did you say sports analogy, let's go. I
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: feel like this is my Yeah. But once a team
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: is then has like if someone gets sin binned and
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the team is one upper player, it's all over. Yeah. Yeah,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: but also let me flip that for you please.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, sometimes the team that has the player sent off
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: stand up, that's true and actually win the game because.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, I hear what you're saying. They're going
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: to there get extra motivation. We're not going to let
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: the fact that one of our players got cancust or
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: you know, sent off because they can cust someone else.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Not going to let that beat it. So yeah, so yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I mean you'll be fine. But it is a lot
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: of work, so don't think it's not and yeah it's not.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's not like an extra thirty
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: three percent work. It's more than that. I think it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: fifty work. Wow, even though it's one child, So you would.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Say your third was that was the hardest transition of
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: all I think so.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. But at the time we had three kids.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: While where we had the three kids, I was doing
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: breakfast radio, I was doing nightly TV show, I was
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: doing a weekend TV show, and I was doing stand
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: up I was touring stand up comedy. So wow, crazy.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I probably wasn't home that much, to be honest, but
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was involved on the phone.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Do you remember their names? I do. I do jokes.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: They can watch me on TV if they want to.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Three then and three now they're older. Yeah. Would you
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: say three now is like glad you had the three
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: and it's much more fun. Yeah, it would be awkward
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: if you said, yeah, I can say my hand on
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: heart it is. Yeah, we're glad they got the three
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: and and they're they're they're good, they're they're self condain.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I do we drive them everywhere those That's one thing,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: because you know, the show for service just never ends.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And you know, I've bought them bikes, which are good bikes,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: which they could ride, and I'm happy for them to
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: ride them, but they just don't. They just get a lift.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: My son gets a lift to the gym. I'm happy
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: he's going to the gym, don't get me wrong, but
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: home from the gym, him just fucking just lifts all
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: He could exercise to the gym, then gym and then
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: exercise homes.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: He could, he could, he could ride his bike.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I've actually heard it's an issue this country is facing
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: that kids don't know how to ride bikes anymore.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: My wife doesn't know how to ride a bike and
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: she's in her thirties.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Well that's that's see, that's a rare kids aren't. Kids
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: aren't riding bikes anymore.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Because my parents are too worried. Like back in look
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: look at this is I mean, it's it's it's a
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: like back in the seventies, parents had more kids. So
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you don't have like five or four at four was
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: a minimum. Really, someone have seven or eight, and you
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: know what, they'd lose the odd kid, you know what
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, just like the old kid would get hit
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: by truck. Just that was the seventies. Mate. Then you
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: go to a funeral and there was just one less
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: kid in that family. But they already had a number
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: of kids, so they had spares. Now people aren't having spares.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: You have true, very true to have one extra for contingency.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, two or three extra I got made of
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: mine who is one of eighteen children.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: True story, My grandfather was one of fourteen. Yeah, you're right,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: like they lose a kid. He would lose a kid
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: every year. So yeah, they got they got extras. They
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: got extras.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Eighteen as big and no no twins, no twins, dairy
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: farmers and yeah and you know you were to Yeah
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: they milk that cow. But also you've got to keep
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: you need to keep your cows pregnant to get milk.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: You know, milk on it comes from cows that are
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: continually pregnant. So okay, so I don't know that if
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: he had the same wife. But yeah, eighteen is a
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: big effort.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Was it a hard adjustment for yourself? Usual when you
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: stop doing breakfast radio?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: No? No, I look, I our latest radio show sort
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: of got halted, you know, towards the end last year.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: And it was a shot for a moment.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: How do they deliver that news.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Well, it's delivered it quickly, I suppose, But yeah, so
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: it's not really yeah all right, yeah so yeah, but
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: so but as it was a shock for a moment,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: blow to the ego, I would say as well, but
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: then quickly became joyful, really joyful.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: And what was joyful about it just.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: You know what anyone who does breckagtrader or anyone who
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: has to get up really early would know. For me,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I'm never been a great sleeper. So it's like every night,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Oh God, it's nine o'clock, I should be in bed.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It's nine thirty, I should be in bed. It's ten o'clock,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I'm in bed. I'm not asleep. I should be asleep.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: It's ten thirty. I'm still not asleep.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: So that four hours.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Now I don't want to look at the clock,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: and so I can't look at it, and so that's
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: that's stressful. So I never really had a proper routine
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: over twenty years or more. Wow, So yeah, which is annoying.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: And then kids come along as they and they're on
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: their own agendas. And when they're little they go to
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: bed earlier. It's great, but they get older and then
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: they're stayed up, and so you're going to bed and
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: everyone else is awake, and then you're like, then you're
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: not asleep anyway, you should have stayed awake. So yeah,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: every night, and then when I do stand up comedy.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Now I can just relax. I don't have to go
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: on first, a big on last. So yeah, it's I'm
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: really happy.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Was it hard to slot into the morning routine because
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: you would have always been at radio when the kids
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: are getting ready.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: For her school?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: No, no, it's Holly, like, Dave, you're making this harder.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Look, she still does the lunches, which is I feel
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: bad about. But she's really leant into it. Like she's
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: a full time school teacher, but she does the lunches
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: before she goes to school. And so at the moment
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I'm getting up around seven, she probably gets up a
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: quarter to seven, but she's yeah, she's working hard. I'm
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: involved and I always unpacked the dishwasher in the morning.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, don't do that, I'll do that. I drive
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the kids to school, I am. I don't sit down
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: much anymore. I'm like, I will tidy the house. And
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I've stopped getting angry at the kids and the fact
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: that they don't tie. You know, kids should tidy. I
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: actually know. I still get angry at that, but I'm
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: cleaning up a lot, so I'm doing all around the house.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: My wife's very happy, which is good. So we're happy.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Are you enjoying the transition from being busy, busy, busy
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: to now being more of a day Are you enjoying
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: that that process?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Look, I really enjoy I do enjoy being with the kids.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: And like my son, for instance, his basketball, he plays
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: red Basketball, and I'm drive him to the games most times.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a bit more stand up comedy happening.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Now I'm not i to do it quite as much,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: but I'm still mainly there. So yeah, I love that
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: sort of that relationship were having. My son and he's basketball,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: so he's been playing red basketball since under twelve, I think, so,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: which is a Friday night and it's it's right, you
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: might have to drive up to an hour and a
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: half on a Friday night to get to some game
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere basically, So.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: That's annoying, isn't it.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: So the two of us, so I've got a real
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Friday night ritual and we get along, you know we.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I mean I will yell at him and he'll yell
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: back at me. So like we're like I often score basketball.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I'm scoring and then I think, if he's not switched out,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I'll switched and I'll go switch on, mate, you know,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and he will yell at me. I am certainly you're not.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: You haven't watched it, you haven't scored yet. Mate. You're
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: six foot six. What are you doing? Six? Six foot six?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: How old is he?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: He turned sixteen the other days. I'm getting a lot
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: of this, like when we're in like I would wear
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the dentist. Two days ago, the three kids at the dentist,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: they're like, you know, and good on them. So I
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: picked up from school early to taking the dentist and
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: get it done. And their teeth are great, by the way,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: And which is what they don't do is they don't
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: drink soft drinks. And I drank soft drink all through
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: and I wasn't a rich kid, but we drank soft drink.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I drank and my teeth And the dannist said, they
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: don't want to get teeth like yours. I'm like, oh
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: my god. And then because he six with six, she goes,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: where do you get his height from? You know, well
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: that's hurtful. And then his mum's seven foot tall. When
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: she goes, I suppose your wife's tall, but you're not
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: even that tall. She's like five eight maybe, yeah's five eight,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: she's not in the w NBA and she's like, you're
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: not that tall, so and then.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Is a pleasant height and people wondering.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: In front of my son, who's like his mouth open
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: because she said it must have been the milkman. Why
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: would you say that, you know, it's kind of fun
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: She's basically saying that to my son in the room.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: She's saying, he's not your dad. Find your mum rooted
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: someone else.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe she was trying to be funny, but at least
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: it's easy to break up with a dentist because you
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: don't see him that much. If it was a hairdresser,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: it would be way way.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I know, you know what. And at the end of it,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and I do, I think she was trying to be funny,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: but but it was still a bit hurtful. But at
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, the kids teeth are good.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: So no cavities at all at all. Yeah, I know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: it's I'm that shocked. That is shocked.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: That is a rare.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Well, there's no sugar, no sugar soft drinks.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: It is quite a fl I'm going I touch wood.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I've never had a cavity myself, and in your life, never, never,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: not once me.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think I've had Remember I've got a
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: tooth out last year.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, I've had I'm missing you know what I'm missing?
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Ten teeth? Okay, well I couldn't tell. Well, I mean
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: you probably can, but it's I've had one replace because
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: it was too close to the front and made me
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: look too you know, like this guy's you know, he's
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: sleeping rough. So I got one replaced. But yeah, I've
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I had my teeth over the year. I had some
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: shocking times in the dentist the the back in the
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: in the seventies and eighties, there wasn't much anesthetic. I
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: remember getting a getting a root canal, you know where
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: they you know, you wouldn't know what a recon both
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: of you don't root canal is. They take the whole
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: route out of it to they dig it out. And
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the anesthetic hadn't worked on me, and I'm there's a
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: as a dentist digging a root out of my mouth
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: and it was either infected or the anaesthetic hadn't worked.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: It was it was like Guantanamo Bay stuff. You're like screaming.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? This
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: is the worst pain in my life. It's exactly where
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: this saying comes from. It's like pulling teeth, that's exactly it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sometimes pulling teeth where to get them out
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: is so much work. Like three of them trying to
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: get the two thousand. I know. It was like I'm
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: born in the seventeen hundred.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: And they would have also up soldier to a root
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: canal because we had a joke where dentist is just
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: mouth salesman when you go in for a check up
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, you need the most expensive thing
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: we have, which is a root canal.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure your teeth were fine. Actually, they just
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: saw you come in and go, we'll get this guy.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: We'llet at least one out to that. Well, I mean
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: it was they certainly got announced blood out terrible.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: We we get a lot of mixed feedback. Yeah, with
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the question of should you give your kids pocket money? Yeah,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I have always thought that it's a good idea. It
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: allows them to understand the value of money. What's your
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: stance on that? To your kids? Do they get an allowance?
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Do they have to do chores? How does that work?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: We've been so slack with that, to be honest, so
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: they really never had to do chores. We've tried to
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: institute it and it didn't work. We had like a
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: thing up on the you know, like a little spreadsheet
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: up on the fridge at some point, but it hasn't worked.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: So they don't really get pocket money. No, But they
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: just want for nothing, you know. I mean my son especially,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: we're just he just texts me can I get a
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: nice tea? And I have to put money in his account.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Like he's at a seven eleven saying I want to
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: get a nice tea six or six? Yeah, so can
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: you put some money in my account? So I go
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: to my banking app and put money in his account
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: so I can buy a nice tea and that happens
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a lot. So he but he's got to get a job.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I've decided. He was basketball coaching, so coaching younger teams,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: and he was doing really well. But he's quit that
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: this year too, you know, focus on his studies. So
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I'd rather be working.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Have you ever thought when he's like, hey, can I
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: get a nice tea? It's like you promised to clean
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: your room when you get I.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Know I should have done that. I never have. So
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: but he's put applications in for jobs, but nothing's come through.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you writing on these applications? How
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: can you not get a job at McDonald's when your
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: bloody deadbeat mates working there. You know what's he got
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: that you don't have. I think he's got the enthusiasm
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and he doesn't have a parent who's putting money in
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: his account every five minutes.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, cut off the supply maybe, yeah, I know,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: I've got.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: To do it.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Once the iced tea runs out, he'll be there. I
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: don't have icy money anymore.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Hughes.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: You are a man who likes a holiday.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Recently you were on a trip to Hawaii. Yes, but
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: it didn't go to plan.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: No. I look, I have been I injured my shoulder
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: about it's about fifteen sixteen months ago now, and it
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: was like dessiccated, and it was that through radio, no surfing.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: It was on news eve. So I'm surfing with my family.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: It was a surf lesson and my own board took
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: away without me and just it coward punched me. My
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: own board hit me from behind and it took my shoulder.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: It dissipated my shoulder from behind, which is apparently more
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: painful than if it goes backwards. It goes forwards, apparently
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: it's more painful. It was the most painful experience of
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: my life. And I'm just I was on the beach
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: in writhing in agony for like two hours. It was
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: at the Gold Coast, so and they didn't they don't
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: have green whistles at the Gold Coast. So the surf
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: life savers don't you know, the green whistle were stuck
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: on it. They just don't have them. They're not letting.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: This guy's young bloke said, oh, the government took them
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: office because we misused them. So apparently they were like
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: partying with the green whistles that this club is in
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: you anyway. So I was so painful and I eventually
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: got the greens. When I ended up, I've done a
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: whole comedy routine about which is, you know, everything becomes
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: a comedy for me. But basically it was it was
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I got end which is a like heroin inside a
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: pill basically, and that they only get one script of
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: that because yeah, it's productive. And then I ended up
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: on medicinal marijuana for the pain after my shoulder reconstruction,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and the gummies. The gummies but on Honolulu, I said
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: to my wife on the flight, I said, over to Honolulu,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: we're going to be their tender beause I didn't bring
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: any gummies with me, thinking that she would go, good
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: on you, you don't need gummies. But she didn't say that.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: She said, why do you tell me that? I said,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting. She said, how often you're
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: having them? I said not very often. She said, well,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: it sounds like you are. I said, no, I'm not.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: This is actually rehab for me. I'm like, well, anyway,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: it was a bit of information, and I immediately regretted
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: having told her that. But four days into the trip,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: where we were past the vape shop and I was
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: hooked on vaping for a while, which happens. But I'm
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: off that that is hard. Nickodine is the hardest thing
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: to get off, harder than anything else. And I've given
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: up a lot of stuff. Yeah. One day I just
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: quit smoking, did you Yeah, and never had back a day. Man,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: You know I do.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I do wish like I made of mine said to me,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: it's a shame that you will never talk to me.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: You will never experience the joy of a morning coffee
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: and a cigarette. And I sometimes I wish I would
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: have that and enjoy it. I tried to smoke, but.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: You don't need any more aids to help you ship
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: trusting it does help, but yeah, the nicotine is it's
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: really good. Yeah, but it's string gold though, because then
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: you need it every five minutes, and that really takes
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: over your life. Vaping took over my life. I couldn't.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I'd be missing, you know, moments in basketball games because
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I was in the you know, of my children, because
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I was in the he went on the bench like disabled.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I was in the disabled toilets vaping. You know, I think,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: what am I doing. I'm in my fifties and I
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: mean a disabled toilet. It's some far flung basketball stadium
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: sucking on a vape, you know. And I appeared to
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: be the only one in this whole bloody you know, your.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Son probably enjoyed the break though. God God.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Anyway, we went past the vape shop and they we
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: had a chat about me not vaping anymore and I
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: can never vape again. I can had that conversation with
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: a guy who sells vape as we walked past with
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: my family. Yeah. So, but I saw the sign that
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: said you don't see gummies on the sign or something,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: and I thought, oh god, they sell gummies there in Honolulu.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it was legal. And so the family
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: went to the beach and I said, I'm gonna go
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: find somewhere to watch the footy tonight, and I'll see
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: you at the beach. And I went back to the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: gummy shop on the way to find a bar to
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: watch the footy, and I bought two barrels. I bought
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: one barrel. Actually it was thirty bucks, that's outstand it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: There seemed to be like two hundred in there, and
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like this, like must be so weak. I thought
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: that money had two straight away and it's like midday
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: in Honolulu. And then nothing happened for ten minutes. So
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I just had I had Look, I had one more.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I almost had two more. I had one more, but
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: then the three of them in another five minutes. Just
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I couldn't see. I was like, I was so munch
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I was, I was so paranoid. I was so I
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: couldn't I was so confused, and I'm going to Honolulu.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: My family's at the beach, and I eventually got back
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: to the hotel. Then it took a long time. I
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: just didn't know where I was. I've got my hotel room,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I can go to sleep now. But
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: then I realized at the midday, and and that's going
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: to be weird.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Were you doing the thing where You're like.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Why am I breathing so loud? How do I breathe?
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: And you're like you can't figure out the real properly?
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I was on another planet. But I'm like, I've got
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: to get to the beach because my wife can't know.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: I lied. I lied to it, and I lied and
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: said I was going to find the bar, but I
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: really wanted to go to the gummy shop. You got
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: to come close, and he's already sussed on me, and
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: so I said, I've got to find the beach. So
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I put the swimmers on and I tried to find
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: the beach and that took ages as well, even though
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: it was right next to the hotel. And I eventually
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I'm ringing my wife, going where are you? And she
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: was like, where you are? You're like three and I've
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: tried to extra. I've got to actra because you can't
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: know I've lied to her. And then I swear to God,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: she's looked at me and she goes She said to me,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: why are you wearing my shorts? And I had the
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: most ridiculous shorts sign but I couldn't even work out
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: why I had them on. And then I was just like,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And then the kids were out. There
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: was really calm at why a key beach It wasn't,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: but in my head there was a tsunami coming, and
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: so I've ran out and my son again, he's six
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: ft six, he might have been six foot four then
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: he's grown a bit lately, but and I'm dragging him
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: in on a float. He's on a floating. He's like
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: just like he's on a calm water on a floating
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: and I'm dragging him in because what are you doing?
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm bringing you to safety and we're in
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: like we're in like waste deep water and he's like,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: what's wrong with you? And nothing? Just just don't go
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: back out there. Apparently didn't have any idea. They didn't
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: know that I was stoning. My wife knew and she's like,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: you're an idiot. And I went back to hotel. Then
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I said I'm stoned and she said, I know, I
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: know you wear my underpants as well. I didn't get it.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I went back went to bed, and I didn't get
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: up for the footy that night. So I bet my
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: son's like, why is't Dad getting up towards the footy?
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: He loves the footy? No, yea was that was? That
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: was bad?
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: So anyway, she's a patient woman.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: What did you do with the rest of the gummies?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: You know? I sat there and I'm like, I can't
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: have any more, and so I didn't have any more
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: on the trip, and I put them in the bin.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I did traumatize. I put them in the bin. No,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I've been back on him since. Don't get me wrong.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I do have to give you a very big compliment,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: CUsing because after the jungle top five, I think it
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: was top five. We all staid at a lodge.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Now it was top eight mate. I was eight down,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I honestly because you obviously top three, but I was.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I was when we was leaving the jungle because I
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: got evicted and I was shocked. I got a victored.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I thought me Maddie thought I was going to win. Well,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: he told me that win. I thought you were going
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: to win anyway, So whatever, I got evicted and I
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: was annoyed, but I thought it was all rigged and
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: that storyboarded and I would be in the final three whatever.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: But that wasn't the case. And as I'm coming out,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, at least my wife and family won't
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: have to come over, because as Maddie knows, it was
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: a stress for busy people. My wife had started her
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: school year, and you know, a trip to Africa is
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: not as valuable for some people as his for others. Whatever.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: That's the way I.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Ended up in South Africa because it was like, hey, yeah,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: can you help me get South Africa with these two kids?
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, I know.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: And then my wife's like, you don't go to South
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Africa made for like two days. So yeah, with three kids,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: it's a stress to get over there. So so when I'm
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: coming out, so or at least my wife I had
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: to come over, and they producer about that, and I said, what,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: she's there on the plane now. I was like, oh shit,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: So they hadn't landed in Perth like Melbourne Perth Joe
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Berg and I said, get it. I've got to get
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: her on the phone because she might want to turn
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: around because anyway, my daughters wanted to come, but my
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: son wanted to go back and plays red basketball. He
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: didn't care about. But anyway, they came over. That was
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: eight so for whatever reason they we had eight families.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: That was actually lovely. In the little where we were
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: staying in the lotch, it was a beautiful your family
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: and all the other families. It was great, and you
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: were there toly, so you didn't get to enjoy it.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Didn't get to enjoy it. But I do remember one
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: standout for me was the fact that everyone's there with
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: their kids, and your kids and teenagers are little assholes
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: most of the time. Like there's a little cafe down
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the road where I get a coffee from and it's
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: next to a school and it's sometimes in the afternoon's
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: full of school kids.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: They tease him.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they suck with your kids, Like I don't know,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: if they were just being on their absolute best behavior,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: they would look you in the eye, say good morning,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: ask you what are you up to today. They'd have
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: a conversation. Yeah, And you don't often get that from
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: teenage kids. So I got to say, well done.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Credit to my wife more than me, obviously, but yeah,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: they are Yeah. They're good and they and they'll play
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: with the little kids as well. So you're yeah, they
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: love playing with your daughters. And yeah, I got two
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: daughters who are bloody Yeah, they're good kids. And my
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: son's good as well. Yeah.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I also have to just say as well, compliment for
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: the kids. But at the airport, you really stitched me up. Yeah,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: big time.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I haven't heard this well.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I was trying to get a business upgrade.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, you do love it business, I love it.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: It's his Achilles eight kilos in the jungle.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: We really lost a friendship over it because when we
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: went to Vegas and there's only one seat and I'm like, oh,
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: I don't worry, He's like, sorry.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: You're painting me in.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: He wanted to leave you for that fourteen hours or
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, And.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: So I was trying to get an upgrade. Couldn't happen.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: We're at joe Berg Airport, Johannesburg with those playing at home,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: and I was on the phone to the flight agent
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: and he was trying hard to get me an upgrade.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: It wasn't going to happen. And as I was on
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: the phone, like pleading, desperate for an upgrade. Laura was
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: talking to you, and I didn't know. The conversation was
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: along the lines of you had said to Laura, there
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: is no way on earth I'm going to sit in
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: that business seat for a second. It's going to go
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: to my wife. Yeah, okay. And then after that conversation,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I then hang up the phone. I go to Laura
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: and I say, there's been no business class upgrade. I'm
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: really sorry. You're going to be in premium. Also didn't
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: know that she was pregnant at the time. Yeah, right,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: and so when I walked her to a seat in premium,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: she was. It was We had a big argument. Yeah,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: a big argument.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know. It wasn't just you ors
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: that the others as well. I guilted Zach into it
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: as well, and I think Sam Thriday as well. So yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: so Zach too. In Sam Friday, you know, throw who
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: are just going to go and business and leave their
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: partners and kids in economy. But you know what, I
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: luckily there was some luck. We were able to get
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: pretty cheap business upgrades for everyone, and they did as well.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: So all those guys paid for their partners to be
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: in business worth making honestly, and I'm and my wife's
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: so Martin, and she would have let me go in business. Honestly,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: she would have let me. But I knew I would.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: It would have been in the back of it was something.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: There's points that you get deducted, and they would have
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: been deducted forever.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: I would I would have just sat in the business
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: class seat and not spoken to them the whole time.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: No, I can't, No, I'm I'm playing a long game, man.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you for that.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: It was very contentious when he got back and that
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: story and then people piling.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Still gon attack now, and when Laura announced that she
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: was pregnant that everyone's now coming back for a second attack,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: being like.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: And she was, you know, I appreciate you doing that.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you being honest in that way. And you know,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: you know, what's great content and people love to have
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: their opinion, so well, good on you for being honest
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: enough to say that you're a selfish asshole.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Excuse me. One final question that we always end on
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: for the podcast episodes. When your three children are old
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: enough to fly the nest, they're no longer living with you,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: what is the one thing you would want them to
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: remember about the house they grew up.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: In that I'm big on don't take life seriously. I'm
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: big on laugh your way through life. So that's my
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: don't and I say to them all the time, which
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I read, but I believe it to be true. There's
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: been studies done and the people who think about themselves
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: the least of the happiest people. So stop thinking about
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: yourself and just and I say this almost every days
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I'm drming to school. Look at the sun. And I
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: sit in the jungle as well, look at the sun.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: We're on a planet. This is weird. The chances of
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: us ever being here are so astronomical. Just you know,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: be happy you're alive. You know, I really want them
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: just to go through life with that attitude. So yeah,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: very good, I love it.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Excuse it's been an absolute pleasure. Lovely to see you again.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Mate. We've got to keep in touch, all right. So
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: you went to the Grand Prix? You didn't You didn't
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: ring me? Man, what do you ring me? Who's going
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: to Grand Prix?
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: You know? Hand was going to hours.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Again to catch up with him to down there. I
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: was meant to catch up with him down there, and
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: he reads me the night before and he goes, I'm
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: going home.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: You can say what about me.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I've come down like you.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I had a few people, but I was like, I'm
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: really gonna I'll get up.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: And Laura and the girls and then hugh'sy loved to
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: meet you. Thank you for coming in. It's pleasure. It's
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: been a lot of fun. Enjoy. Thank You.
• 53:29
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• 53:32
  Speaker 1: throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: We pay our respects to their elders past and present
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Straight
• 53:41
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