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Rodeo queen mom of two pleads guilty, under lover's 'spell' after missing mom Kelsey Berreath DEAD · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: she's at. Somebody has seen her. There's more information out there.
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Speaker 1: Somebody just needs to realize, to recognize, than to say something.
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Speaker 1: Has she ever disappeared before? No, No, I can't think
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Speaker 1: of anywhere she's ever gone that she hasn't told me.
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Speaker 1: It's just not in her character to just take off
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Speaker 1: and be gone. Thanksgiving is the last known time Kelsey
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Speaker 1: Barrett was seen in public. It was at this Safeway
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Speaker 1: store where she was captured by the store's security cameras.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl Barrett says she spoke with Kelsey by phone that
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Speaker 1: day twice. What did you talk about that day? Oh,
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Speaker 1: it's just small things, And initially she needed a recipe.
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Speaker 1: Based on that conversation, there was nothing to make you
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Speaker 1: believe there is anything wrong exactly. Yeah. Her voice was fine,
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Speaker 1: she was, Yeah, she was. It was a normal day
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Speaker 1: for her. I Meancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. You were just hearing our
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Speaker 1: friends at NBC today, as well as Joe Fire talking
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Speaker 1: to Kelsey Barrow, the missing Colorado mom mother declaring, somebody
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Speaker 1: knows something, and I think I've got a pretty good
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Speaker 1: idea who that somebody who knows something is and that
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Speaker 1: is the missing mom fiance Patrick Phras's mistress. Even though
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Speaker 1: if you can have a legitimate mistress when you're not married,
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Speaker 1: but in the last hours a big break listen Crystal
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Speaker 1: Lee Kenny and Idaho nurse is a key part of
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Speaker 1: the puzzle. Kenny was close with Patrick Frazie, who was
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Speaker 1: now charged with murder His fiancee, Kelsey Barrett, was last
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Speaker 1: seen Thanksgiving Day at a grocery store before dropping off
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Speaker 1: her child with Frazie, the father. While the search was
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Speaker 1: going on in Colorado, Barrett's cell phone sent a message
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Speaker 1: from Idaho to her employer. Now, Kenny pleaded guilty to
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Speaker 1: a phony of tampering with that phone. She said, I
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Speaker 1: learned that Patrick Frazie had committed a homicide on approximately
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Speaker 1: November twenty second, twenty eighteen, in Teller County. I knew
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Speaker 1: that law enforcement would be investigating that crime. I moved
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Speaker 1: the victim's cell phone with the intent to impair the
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Speaker 1: phone availability in the investigation. Kenny was allowed to leave
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Speaker 1: with the understanding she may be called back to testify
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Speaker 1: against Frazy. She will be sentenced later and could very
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Speaker 1: well get prison time. But for now, the body of
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Speaker 1: Kelsey Beareth is nowhere to be found. Truer words were
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Speaker 1: never spoken that CBS for Denverse, Rick Salinger reporting, Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: they were close, all right. I guess that's one way
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Speaker 1: to put it, talk about putting perfume on the pig.
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Speaker 1: Crystal Lee Kenney, the Rodeo Queen mother of two, divorced,
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Speaker 1: had a long time relationship with Patrick Frazy. Why didn't
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Speaker 1: he just get with her instead of pretending to be
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Speaker 1: with Kelsey Beareth? The missing mom, her body still not found,
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Speaker 1: her little one year old girl, Kelley, living with her
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Speaker 1: parents right now. What happened to Kelsey Beareth? But we
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Speaker 1: know this much In the last hours, the Rodeo Queen
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Speaker 1: mom of two in court pleading guilty to one count
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Speaker 1: of tampering with evidence? What evidence? Kelsey Barrett's cell phone?
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Speaker 1: Now don't you think you'd pause and wonder why your
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Speaker 1: lover wants you to drive eight hundred miles away and
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Speaker 1: dispose of his girlfriend his fiance's cell phone. And oh,
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Speaker 1: by the way, do you mind sending a couple of
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Speaker 1: fake texts, one to her boss saying pretending to be
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Speaker 1: Kelsey I'm gonna be gone for a week to throw
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Speaker 1: cops off the trail. But she did it, and she
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Speaker 1: has pled to it, as you heard. Sentencing withheld until
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Speaker 1: she testifies successfully in the murder trial against the so
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Speaker 1: called killer fiance, Patrick Frazy. Joining me right now, Boy
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Speaker 1: do we need a forensics expert? Karen Smith, renowned in
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Speaker 1: her field, joining us out of the floor to jurisdiction,
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Speaker 1: well known North Carolina family and divorce lawyer Kathleen Murphy,
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Speaker 1: And boy do we need a shrink? I think we
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Speaker 1: can all agree on that with me, forensic psychiatrist, doctor
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Speaker 1: Daniel Bober. But first to Crime online dot Com investigative
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Speaker 1: reporter Ellen colorin Crime Online, where you can find this
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Speaker 1: and all other breaking crime and justice news every single day. Ellen,
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Speaker 1: let's take it from the top. What happened in court?
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Speaker 1: Christa Lee Kenny pleaded guilty to one count of tampering
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Speaker 1: with evidence on Friday. She said in her statement that
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Speaker 1: this crime, she moved the phone from Keller County, which
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Speaker 1: means that she had to have been in Colorado on
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Speaker 1: that day. It was right after Thanksgiving. It was right
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Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, so she reportedly comes to see him for
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving for the holidays, and she leaves with Kelsey Barris
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Speaker 1: cell phone and again putting perfume on the pig. Ellen,
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Speaker 1: these are not your words, they're her words. Kathleen Murphy,
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Speaker 1: what do you make of it? She agreed, she moved
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Speaker 1: her phone. You know that sounds like it's sliding it
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Speaker 1: across the dinner table lit by candle candlelight. I moved
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Speaker 1: the phone. Oh h doublel No, that is not what
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Speaker 1: she did. She didn't move it across the dinner table
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Speaker 1: with white linen tablecloths and fancy silver No, she hit
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Speaker 1: it and she drove what she didn't think Kelsey Beareth
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Speaker 1: would miss her phone? Oh, because Kelsey was dead and
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Speaker 1: she knew it. And she drove eight hundred miles to
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Speaker 1: dispose of the phone to make it seem like Kelsey
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Speaker 1: Beareth without one year old baby girl wanting mommy to
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Speaker 1: try to trick police into thinking Kelsey Beareth had gone
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Speaker 1: to Idaho. I mean, move it, Nancy. Why isn't this
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Speaker 1: woman charged with accessory before the fact, in accessory after
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Speaker 1: the fact. Why is she simply charged with tampering with
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Speaker 1: the evidence. You know that's a good question. Joining me
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Speaker 1: here in the studio is Jackie Howard with her face
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Speaker 1: all screwed up in disbelief, joining me in LA is
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Speaker 1: my partner in crime, Alan Duke. You know, Alan Duke,
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Speaker 1: you have covered a lot of cases with me, and
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Speaker 1: while I was still prosecuting. And here's the deal. If
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Speaker 1: she knew at that time that Kelsey Barrett was dead
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Speaker 1: to me, that's accessory after the fact. And she also said,
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Speaker 1: Alan Duke, who's joining us from his posh penthouse pad
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Speaker 1: as I like to say in LA. She also says
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Speaker 1: that Phrasey, the fiancee, had solicited her on multiple occasions
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Speaker 1: to kill Kelsey, so she took that phone she knew
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Speaker 1: Kelsey was dead. Alan, I agree with Kathleen Murphy, this
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem right. Well, she says, Fear it's going to be.
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Speaker 1: Fear is her reason. She thought she thought she and
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Speaker 1: her family members were going to be targeted by Patrick Frazy,
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Speaker 1: who she believed was the most evil man, but only
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Speaker 1: only after she got caught. Well, what about this, Alan,
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Speaker 1: She has said to other people, this was her first love,
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Speaker 1: that she's loved Phrasey since high school. I'll tell you what,
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Speaker 1: No one has seen or heard from twenty nine year
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Speaker 1: old Kelsey Barrett. One of the last places the young
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Speaker 1: mother was seen was on Thanksgiving Day at a Safeway
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Speaker 1: in Woodland Park, Colorado, wearing a white shirt, gray sweater
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Speaker 1: and blue pants. If she's out there, doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: be contacted, just let us know that she's safe and well.
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Speaker 1: Your family knows. Bareth was reported missing on December second.
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Speaker 1: Woodland Park Police Commander Chris Adams says a few days
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Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, her cell phone pinged nearly eight hundred miles
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Speaker 1: away outside Gooding, Idaho, not far from where she has family.
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Speaker 1: Dear God, please keeps the family of Kelsey Bareth in
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Speaker 1: your heart and soul in Washington State, where some of
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Speaker 1: Barrett's family lives. A vigil was held by her brother
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Speaker 1: in law, Brendon Kendall. If they see her anywhere, please
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Speaker 1: please say something. You're hearing our friends CBS reporter Marea
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Speaker 1: vill Real reporting on Kelsey Bareth Last being sane, and
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Speaker 1: you hear her brother begging for help, that phone pinging
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Speaker 1: eight hundred miles away, and you're gooding Idaho. Actually Twin Falls,
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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, and that just coincidentally is
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Speaker 1: right where her fiance, Patrick Phrasy's other girlfriend lives, Crystal Lee,
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Speaker 1: And is I like to say the rodeo queen because
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Speaker 1: she was? Isn't that right? Jackie? She was? Yet what
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Speaker 1: was her title in the Rodeo Queen? What was it? Ek?
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Speaker 1: She was voted Rodeo Queen something two thousand, nineteen something
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Speaker 1: and has known Patrick Frazie for a really long time.
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Speaker 1: But in the last hours a stunning turn. Listen to
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Speaker 1: the district attorney Dan May, She's asking, why did we
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Speaker 1: agree to a plead? I don't know that I can
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Speaker 1: comment on that at this time. Maybe a question you
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Speaker 1: can reask on February nineteenth, after that proceedings over because
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Speaker 1: certainly at that point you'll be provided more information. We've
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Speaker 1: talked about that before. The nineteenth date is a pulmonary hearing.
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Speaker 1: At a preliminary hearing, the prosecution is required to put
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Speaker 1: on evidence for the judge to decide what to bind
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Speaker 1: over for trial, which charges to bind over for trial.
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Speaker 1: So at that time, obviously a lot more information will
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Speaker 1: be put out in the grow. So it's probably a
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Speaker 1: better question for that date. That's right, he's not telling
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Speaker 1: or apparently he's going to be a preliminary hearing where
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Speaker 1: we will hear all not exactly all with me. Karen Smith,
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Speaker 1: forensics expert, Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina lawyer, doctor Daniel Bober,
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Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrist, and right now Crime online dot Com investigative
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Speaker 1: reporter Ellen kill Lauren, Yeah, I got a couple of
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Speaker 1: questions too, Just like Kathleen Murphy said earlier, Ellen, if
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Speaker 1: he had been asking her to murder Kelsey for a
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Speaker 1: long time and we found that out from friends of
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Speaker 1: friends who detailed to this and now asks her to hide,
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Speaker 1: get rid of, dispose of the cell phone after he
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Speaker 1: kills her. She's one lucky ducky kay, because on tampering
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Speaker 1: with evidence, her max is eighteen months as opposed to
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Speaker 1: life behind bars or worse. Ellen, There's no question that
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Speaker 1: Christa Lee Kenney knew that there was a murder took place,
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Speaker 1: And when she made a statement in court on Friday,
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Speaker 1: she said that on November twenty second, she knew that
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Speaker 1: Kelsey Bears had been murdered. So it's not even just
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Speaker 1: the fact that she moved the cell phone. And as
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Speaker 1: you as you've noted, Patrick Crazy allegedly asked someone to
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Speaker 1: help with the murder, dating back all the way to September.
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Speaker 1: But she's not even in jail right now, and the
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Speaker 1: plea agreement does not Oh why why why why she's
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Speaker 1: what did you say? She's not even in jail. She
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Speaker 1: is not in custody. Okay, I'm just gonna let that
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Speaker 1: just settle in for just one moment. And of course
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Speaker 1: I'm getting somebody tagging on my T shirt here. It's
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Speaker 1: Alan Duke. Of course he knows about all of the
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Speaker 1: Beauty pageant information, particularly the swimsuit competition, but that's a
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Speaker 1: whole nother canon worms for our forensic psychiatrist to figure
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Speaker 1: that all out. And he's telling me it was the
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight Rodeo Queen of the Magic Valley
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Speaker 1: Stampede two thousand and eight Rodeo Queen of the Magic
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Speaker 1: Valley Stampede. Hey, I'm not knocking it. What I am
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Speaker 1: knocking is driving eight hundred miles with this dead mom's
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Speaker 1: cell phone and getting rid of it to doctor Daniel
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Speaker 1: Bober or forensic psychiatrist. Help me out, doctor Bober, And
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Speaker 1: let me just say up front, before you tune up
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Speaker 1: and get going, can you dummy down for me please
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Speaker 1: and talking regular people talk, not psychiatrists talk. If that's possible,
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Speaker 1: doctor Bober. This woman, the girlfriend the two thousand and
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Speaker 1: eight Rodeo Queen of the Magic Valley Stampede, mother of two?
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Speaker 1: Why would she go along with Patrick Frazy, who she's
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Speaker 1: known for a long time. Why don't she go along
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Speaker 1: with a murderous plot? Why empty you know what? The
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Speaker 1: evidence tampering charge was a gift. She, in my opinion,
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Speaker 1: knew a lot more and was involved a lot more.
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Speaker 1: So she's lucky that she only got the evidence tampering charge.
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Speaker 1: But we see this a lot, even in male serial
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Speaker 1: killers who go along with females, sometimes when the females
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Speaker 1: are weak and they don't have a lot of egostrent
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Speaker 1: or backbone. Sometimes they'll go along with it because of
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Speaker 1: their own weaknesses. You know, here's another thing, legal strategy,
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Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy. As much as I don't like it, sometimes
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Speaker 1: as I love to tell a jury when they're scratching
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Speaker 1: their heads just like we are, sometimes you gotta go
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Speaker 1: to hell to get a witness to put the devil
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Speaker 1: in jail. And I remember the first time I ever
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Speaker 1: did it. Now, I was under the two luge of
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Speaker 1: a veteran assistant DA who thought this was a wonderful thing,
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Speaker 1: and I took the heat for it. I had a
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Speaker 1: triple murder. It was a drug turf shootout and five
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Speaker 1: the cops arrested five guys who were there on that
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Speaker 1: playground that night. Literally there was blood running down the gutter.
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Speaker 1: Literally there was so much blood. And as it turned out,
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Speaker 1: through intensive investigation, nobody would testified. Have to sneak around
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Speaker 1: at this housing project and knock on backdoors with my
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Speaker 1: investigator Earnest, and nobody would come forward. So finally, as
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Speaker 1: it turned out, the four guys were there and the
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Speaker 1: ringleader did all the shooting. He gunned down three people,
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Speaker 1: and I in order to get testimony to get this guy.
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Speaker 1: The trigger man took cheap plays on the guys and
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Speaker 1: they did a couple of years behind bars for just
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Speaker 1: being there, for just being there, and everybody went berserk.
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Speaker 1: And unless you know the facts of the case, unless
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Speaker 1: they knew I had been in every whorehouse and crack
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Speaker 1: house and flop house in the area trying to get
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Speaker 1: eyewitnesses to talk, everybody was afraid. At some point, what
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Speaker 1: do you do? Let the trigger man go because you
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Speaker 1: don't want a cheap play? Are we that precious? So
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Speaker 1: in this case, I guess the prosecution is holding its
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Speaker 1: nose and taking this cheap plea because they gotta have
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Speaker 1: this woman, the rodeo queen, to prove the murder. Does
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Speaker 1: she know where the body is? Does she know what happened?
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Speaker 1: Did she have the information beforehand? I guess you're right, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: The prosecutor knows things that we don't know yet, and
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Speaker 1: he's doing what he has to do for the conviction
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Speaker 1: of Patrick Crazy. I'm sure would like to know where
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Speaker 1: that money is with me. Karen Smith forensic's expert, and
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Speaker 1: I've worked with Karen a long time now, and I'm
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Speaker 1: proud to say I sat on top of her during
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Speaker 1: one forensic expert or Erna, did you sit on top
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Speaker 1: of me? I can't even remember anymore. It's kind of
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Speaker 1: a blur because we had all that fake blood and
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Speaker 1: we're trying to prove or disprove a defense theory in
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Speaker 1: a case. Karen, you've seen it all. Do we know
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Speaker 1: how she can help forensically? Okay? Alan Colorin Yes, No,
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Speaker 1: one ass or have they found the cell phone yet?
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Speaker 1: Did she say no? She said no? She said no,
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Speaker 1: So Karen Smith, how am I going to find that
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Speaker 1: cell phone? Well, listen, she's got charges hanging over her head.
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Speaker 1: Poultry as they may be. I'd like to know what
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Speaker 1: she did with it. Did she put it in a
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Speaker 1: dumb sterge and she throw it in a field? Did
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Speaker 1: she flush it down a toilet? I mean, I don't
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Speaker 1: know what she's done, But you know what one thing
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Speaker 1: I do know, actually two things that I know. Police
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Speaker 1: and said that evidence does indicate that she was that
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Speaker 1: Kelsey Barrett was killed in her Woodland Park home around Thanksgiving.
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Speaker 1: That tells me that they do have forensic evidence from
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Speaker 1: inside that house which may help tell a story of
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Speaker 1: what happened in their second you know, Chrystal Lee Kenny
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Speaker 1: had that cell phone for eight hundred miles. Pretty sure
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Speaker 1: she drove by one, one or two police departments on
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Speaker 1: her little travels up to Idaho. So the fact that
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Speaker 1: you know, Alan Duke said that she was frightened, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: sure maybe she was. But you know what, maybe taking
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Speaker 1: that cell phone to a police department and telling the
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Speaker 1: story and spilling the beans would have been a little
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Speaker 1: bit better for her and a heck of a lot
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Speaker 1: better for this case. Listen to our friend at k
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Speaker 1: k TV eleven, Ashley Frankhine. Through tears, Crystalie admitted to
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Speaker 1: a judge that she moved Kelsey Barrett's phone in order
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Speaker 1: to hinder the investigation. She took a plea deal that
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Speaker 1: requires her to testify against Patrick Frazy in court. The
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Speaker 1: District Attorney says, as long as she cooperates, they will
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Speaker 1: not arrest her. She is free to come and go
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Speaker 1: at this time. She has a requirement, obviously to keep
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Speaker 1: touch with the court. We do have review dates when
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Speaker 1: she has to have contact with the court, and she
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Speaker 1: has required at some point to report for sentencing. The
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Speaker 1: DA would not comment on whether Kelsey's phone has been
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Speaker 1: or not. He did tell us we will receive more
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Speaker 1: information regarding what evidence they have in the case. That
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Speaker 1: will happen February nineteenth, when Frazy is back in court
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Speaker 1: for his preliminary hearing. Climb stories with Nancy Grace. Take
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Speaker 1: me to the first moment Crystal told you that Patrick
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Speaker 1: Frazie had tried to involve her in this crime. I
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Speaker 1: will just tell you Crystal was very, very scared to
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Speaker 1: Crystal's a very level headed, kind, fun loving, happy go
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Speaker 1: lucky person. She's a tough cow girl, but she was
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Speaker 1: absolutely scared and extremely upset. On Friday, Lee admitted she
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Speaker 1: dumped Barett's cell phone just two days after Barrett's death,
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Speaker 1: and claim she knew Frazy had already killed Bareth. She
22:02
Speaker 1: had very very good reasoning for whatever it is she
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Speaker 1: may or may not have done. What was the reasoning?
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Speaker 1: I can't really comment completely, but fear and legitimate fear
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Speaker 1: that if she didn't comply with Patrick he might kill her. Yes,
22:20
Speaker 1: that's what I believe. Yes, Stein says Lee and Frazie,
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Speaker 1: a Blacksmith, met after high school at a ranch and
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Speaker 1: bonded over horses. Were they in a sexual relationship recently?
22:30
Speaker 1: I don't want to comment on that Frazy is currently
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Speaker 1: in jail without bail. Authorities believe he murdered Barrett at
22:36
Speaker 1: her home, but they have not determined a clear motive
22:38
Speaker 1: and her body still has not been found. As a
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Speaker 1: part of her plea, sources tell CBS News, Lee is
22:44
Speaker 1: expected to testify against Phrasey and possibly reveal what Phrasey
22:49
Speaker 1: told her about Bareth. You have no doubt christabsolutely no
22:53
Speaker 1: doubt whatsoever you're hearing, Crystal Lee Kinney's best friend, She'll
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Speaker 1: Stein with CBS News reporter Nikki Battiste, saying that she
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Speaker 1: believes Crystal was very, very afraid now. Ellen klaurin Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter our sources tell us that
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Speaker 1: one of the things the killer fiance alleged killer fiance
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Speaker 1: Patrick Phrasy said was, you know little girls go missing
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Speaker 1: off the playground all the time, and doesn't Krystal Lee
23:22
Speaker 1: Kenney have children? That's right, Nancy Lee Kenny has two children.
23:28
Speaker 1: I believe they are two daughters, and her friends have
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Speaker 1: said sources have said that he's not only her, but
23:36
Speaker 1: to hurt her two young children. What an s ov
23:41
Speaker 1: I mean? Just to add add on to what we
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Speaker 1: think he's already don take a listen to this best
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Speaker 1: friend speaking to Nicki Batiste. Do you think Patrick's a murderer? Yes,
23:54
Speaker 1: I do. I think he's a very dangerous person. Michelle
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Speaker 1: Stein says her close friend Krystal Lee confided in her
24:00
Speaker 1: about her role in covering up Kelsey Barrett's death. We
24:03
Speaker 1: sat down with Stein in Twin Falls, Idaho, where the
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Speaker 1: two women live. Has Crystal ever said that she's been
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Speaker 1: fearful of him at any point? Yes? What did she say?
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Speaker 1: She did tell me that she has never seen that
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Speaker 1: kind of evil in anybody. Barrett, a twenty nine year
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Speaker 1: old pilot, vanished on Thanksgiving Day in Colorado and was
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Speaker 1: last seen in this surveillance video shopping with the one
24:24
Speaker 1: year old daughter she and her fiance, Patrick Frazy shared.
24:28
Speaker 1: Investigators say three days later, Barett's cell phone pinned nearly
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Speaker 1: six hundred miles away in Gooding, Idaho, about an hour
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Speaker 1: from Lee's home. Two text messages were sent, one to
24:40
Speaker 1: Barrats employer saying she would be away for a week,
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Speaker 1: and another to Frazy. You know, I'm not really buying it.
24:46
Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina family and divorce lawyer, because up
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Speaker 1: until she was just caught Dan the water, throwing the
24:54
Speaker 1: cell phone away, throwing Kelsey's phone away to try to
24:57
Speaker 1: trick the cops and save her lover Patrick. Up until then,
25:01
Speaker 1: people were saying, Oh, she was smitten by him, she's
25:04
Speaker 1: so in love with him, that's her first love. Now
25:08
Speaker 1: we're hearing, oh, she was afraid of him. He threatened her.
25:12
Speaker 1: Everything is changed. Do you mean to tell me, Kathleen
25:15
Speaker 1: Murphy that this woman drove eight hundred miles to see
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Speaker 1: a man she was afraid of, because I'm not really
25:23
Speaker 1: swallowing that, neither am I. And you know what, Nancy,
25:27
Speaker 1: she may have been able to save this woman's life
25:31
Speaker 1: and she did it, so I have zero sympathy for her. Zero.
25:36
Speaker 1: I still don't understand why they haven't found the phone,
25:38
Speaker 1: but Alan Duke is joining me out of la and
25:42
Speaker 1: has also been working in the case along with ek
25:44
Speaker 1: Ellen Klaurin. Alan is my understanding. The DA was asked
25:48
Speaker 1: that very question, do you have the cell phone? And
25:51
Speaker 1: he won't say. I'm guessing they may have it. They
25:54
Speaker 1: have been talking to Crystal Lee now since the middle
25:57
Speaker 1: of December. You remember, we quietly talked about it. We
26:00
Speaker 1: didn't want to blow what the investigators were doing. But
26:02
Speaker 1: we knew that it was coming up, but we just
26:04
Speaker 1: didn't know who. I think they've got the phone. The
26:06
Speaker 1: DA was coy in the news conference and he just
26:09
Speaker 1: wouldn't say. He says, I can't tell you right now
26:12
Speaker 1: that is not on the record. I think they've got
26:14
Speaker 1: it too, Alan, And I'll tell you why. They have
26:16
Speaker 1: offered her one sweet deal, and boy does it stink.
26:20
Speaker 1: But I bet they got ahold of her and her
26:22
Speaker 1: lawyer and he said, listen, you get your fanny out
26:26
Speaker 1: in those woods, miss Rodeo queen. And I don't care
26:28
Speaker 1: if you have to go out there with your hair pick.
26:32
Speaker 1: You get out there and you find that cell phone,
26:35
Speaker 1: and if you do, we'll give you champering with evidence.
26:39
Speaker 1: Because yes, I think they need her testimony. I think
26:43
Speaker 1: they'll probably prove it without her testimony to shore it up.
26:46
Speaker 1: But they had to have more than just her, okay,
26:50
Speaker 1: because a good defense attorney can flip that around and
26:52
Speaker 1: say she killed Kelsey, she was there, she was in Colorado.
26:58
Speaker 1: They had to have more than just blow blah blah.
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Speaker 1: I think he's got the cell phone, doctor Daniel Bober.
27:06
Speaker 1: I'm trying to imagine her Chrystal Lee Kenney out there
27:11
Speaker 1: trying to find the cell phone. I mean, she knows
27:13
Speaker 1: where she threw it. She may have done it at night,
27:16
Speaker 1: but she's probably got a good idea where she threw
27:19
Speaker 1: the cell phone or he hit it. But doctor Daniel Bober,
27:22
Speaker 1: are you buying that she was so terrified of Patrick
27:25
Speaker 1: crazy that she drove eight hundred miles to get with him. Yeah,
27:30
Speaker 1: a little bit of another case in Canada, to remember
27:33
Speaker 1: the Paul Bernardo and oh yes, remember that one. Oh yes,
27:39
Speaker 1: they would kidnap little teen girls and torture them sexually
27:46
Speaker 1: with like curling irons and all kind of horrible things,
27:49
Speaker 1: and the boyfriend would kill them. Yeah, and then Harmolka
27:54
Speaker 1: claimed I was under his spell and afraid from my life.
27:59
Speaker 1: What was it like ten to fifteen times? She was
28:01
Speaker 1: afraid for her life? Right. So then after they gave
28:05
Speaker 1: her the plea deal, they found a video that showed
28:07
Speaker 1: that she was a lot more involved than she said
28:09
Speaker 1: she was. That people were completely disgusted by the plea deal.
28:12
Speaker 1: I think in this case it's the same thing. I
28:14
Speaker 1: think she knows a lot more at the chief thing.
28:16
Speaker 1: And I think again the evidence tampering charges is a
28:19
Speaker 1: huge gift for her, Oh, huge, huge gifts. So, Karen Smith,
28:24
Speaker 1: if they already have the phone, you're the forensics expert,
28:27
Speaker 1: what will they be able to mind from Keltsey's cell phone.
28:31
Speaker 1: They're going to go into that cell phone. They're going
28:33
Speaker 1: to look at all the social media. They're going to
28:35
Speaker 1: look at all of the text messages. They can go
28:38
Speaker 1: in and find out where that cell phone was when
28:40
Speaker 1: it was there, pings off of towers, they can actually
28:44
Speaker 1: trace where Crystal Lee Kenny drove, the area where she
28:48
Speaker 1: dumped it. They're going to go back and look at
28:50
Speaker 1: the text messages and see if there's any hint or
28:52
Speaker 1: any clue that something was a miss prior to November
28:56
Speaker 1: twenty second, twenty eighteen, when apparently she was killed. So
29:00
Speaker 1: all of that data is going to come together and
29:02
Speaker 1: tell the story, hopefully, of what happened to Kelsey Barrett.
29:06
Speaker 1: Ek Ellen Kilaura and Crime online dot Com investigative reporter.
29:10
Speaker 1: She didn't just take the cell phone and throw it
29:13
Speaker 1: out into the woods. She reportedly sent texts pretending that
29:19
Speaker 1: she was the missing mom Kelsey Barrett to throw investigators
29:23
Speaker 1: in family off the course. What were the texts we
29:26
Speaker 1: believe Krystally Kenny sent for her boyfriend. Three days after
29:31
Speaker 1: the alleged murder. On November twenty fifth, two text messages
29:35
Speaker 1: were sent from Kelsey Brett's phone. One was sent to
29:39
Speaker 1: Patrick Crazy and we don't know what was said in
29:41
Speaker 1: that message. Another was sent to her employer. She was
29:44
Speaker 1: a pilot and a flight instructor at a school in Colorado,
29:48
Speaker 1: and she sends the phone sends a message to whom
29:51
Speaker 1: lawyers saying I'm not coming into work this week. That
29:53
Speaker 1: was not something that has been arranged beforehand. Take a
29:56
Speaker 1: listen to our friend, Jennifer Meckles at nine News. She
30:00
Speaker 1: entered the courthouse quickly, not stopping to talk to reporters,
30:03
Speaker 1: and while in court, Kenny stood with her attorney and
30:05
Speaker 1: face the judge. Through tears. She admitted to learning Frazy
30:08
Speaker 1: committed a homicide, to knowing law enforcement was investigating the crime,
30:12
Speaker 1: and to moving the victim's cell phone to impair the
30:14
Speaker 1: phone's availability in the investigation. There are terms to this
30:18
Speaker 1: plea deal. District Attorney Dan May said that means she
30:20
Speaker 1: could testify in the case against Patrick Frazy. She is
30:23
Speaker 1: required to cooperate in all cases. She is required to
30:27
Speaker 1: testify if called upon to testify in all cases, and
30:30
Speaker 1: in particular obviously, he referenced the Patrick Crazy case that
30:35
Speaker 1: is currently set for February nineteenth for preliminary hearing at
30:38
Speaker 1: nine o'clock. A judge will ultimately decide Kenny's sentence, and
30:42
Speaker 1: that happens only after all other related cases wrap up.
30:45
Speaker 1: Right now, she is not in custody. She is free
30:47
Speaker 1: to come and go, but the District Attorney's office said
30:49
Speaker 1: she will certainly stay in touch with the court. Chrystallie
30:51
Speaker 1: pled guilty to a Class six felony campering with physical evidence.
30:56
Speaker 1: He carries a penalty in the presumptive range of up
30:58
Speaker 1: to eighteen months in prison, in the aggravated range up
31:01
Speaker 1: to three years in prison, and that's by state law.
31:04
Speaker 1: By state law, it is not a mandatory sentencing and
31:08
Speaker 1: type charge, so that actually the judge has a choice
31:12
Speaker 1: of anywhere from probation on up to that three years
31:15
Speaker 1: if the judge finds aggravation. In this particular case, we
31:19
Speaker 1: have postponed sentencing until after any hearings or trials are
31:23
Speaker 1: done on any other related matters, certainly that would include
31:27
Speaker 1: the Patrick Fray charges. At this time he has presumed
31:31
Speaker 1: innocent unless until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. We
31:34
Speaker 1: have agreed, though, by our agreement, that she will not
31:37
Speaker 1: be sentenced until after all trials are completed. You heard
31:40
Speaker 1: the judge say that could be six months from now,
31:43
Speaker 1: that could be two years from now. It's we really
31:46
Speaker 1: don't know what she stated today. She read a statement.
31:49
Speaker 1: You probably saw her holding it in there. She said,
31:52
Speaker 1: I learned that Patrick Frazy had committed a homicide on
31:55
Speaker 1: approximately November twenty second, twenty eighteen, in Teller County. I
32:00
Speaker 1: knew that law enforcement would be investigating that crime. I
32:03
Speaker 1: moved the victim's cell phone with the intent to impair
32:06
Speaker 1: the phone's availability in the investigation. I had no right
32:10
Speaker 1: or authority to move the victim's cell phone. That occurred
32:13
Speaker 1: between November twenty fourth and November twenty fifth, twenty eighteen,
32:17
Speaker 1: in Teller County. You are hearing the District Attorney, Dan May,
32:21
Speaker 1: speaking to reporters after Crystal Lee the Rodeo Queen guilty play.
32:26
Speaker 1: She's facing eighteen to thirty months now. The judge will
32:29
Speaker 1: have discretion to give her straight probation and sentencing is
32:34
Speaker 1: delayed until we hear her testimony. What is going to
32:37
Speaker 1: happen next Ellen Klauren Well. Patrick Frazy is due next
32:41
Speaker 1: in court on February nineteenth. Christian Lee Kenny is not
32:45
Speaker 1: due back in corduntil June, but she obviously is a
32:49
Speaker 1: key witness for the prosecution that she's not going anywhere.
32:53
Speaker 1: She is going to not only testify for Patrick Crazy,
32:56
Speaker 1: but if there are any other trials in this case,
32:58
Speaker 1: if there are any other footboy, She's going to have
33:01
Speaker 1: to be a witness there too. Straight out to doctor
33:06
Speaker 1: Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist, right now, Kelsey Bear's family, her
33:12
Speaker 1: mom and dad, her little daughter, have no idea where
33:17
Speaker 1: her body is. And there you have Patrick Phrasey sitting
33:22
Speaker 1: behind bars, climbing. He's innocent. All this was over what
33:28
Speaker 1: He wasn't even married to Kelsey. They could have just
33:30
Speaker 1: broken up. Why this, doctor Bober, It's really hard to say,
33:37
Speaker 1: you know, I think at some point you start bargaining
33:39
Speaker 1: with yourself and you say, I know that you know
33:42
Speaker 1: my mom is not alive or my family members not alive.
33:45
Speaker 1: But I just want answers. I just want to know
33:47
Speaker 1: the truth just so I can have some peace. But
33:49
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to know, you know what motivated her
33:53
Speaker 1: to actually do this or preserved to be involved in it.
33:55
Speaker 1: There's a really good question from Jackie Howard here in
33:58
Speaker 1: the studio with me to you, Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina
34:01
Speaker 1: family and divorce lawyer, Kathleen, could Christal Lee Kenney lose
34:07
Speaker 1: custody of her children over this? Because she has clearly
34:11
Speaker 1: been consorting with a killer who's been planning the murder
34:16
Speaker 1: for a long time as she knew about it, and
34:18
Speaker 1: now he's threatening that her children, her girls could just
34:21
Speaker 1: disappear on the playground. Oh, Nancy, if the courts even
34:25
Speaker 1: cared about what the parents do with their children, I
34:28
Speaker 1: would say she should lose custody. But they don't really care.
34:32
Speaker 1: They don't an ideal with it. All the time. You
34:35
Speaker 1: walk in and oh, fifty fifty custody next. I would
34:40
Speaker 1: love for custody courts in this country to start paying
34:44
Speaker 1: attention just like this. You know what about it? To
34:47
Speaker 1: Ellen Colorin, what effect will all of this have on
34:51
Speaker 1: Christa Lee Kinney's custody of her children? Yeah, we don't
34:56
Speaker 1: know yet what Christy Lee Kenney knew, but her own
35:01
Speaker 1: statements inside that she knew that there was a murder
35:04
Speaker 1: on the day of the murder and she did not
35:06
Speaker 1: come forward. So what that means about whether it's safe
35:09
Speaker 1: for her to have custody of her children. We're going
35:12
Speaker 1: to have to wait and see. You know, Karen Smith,
35:15
Speaker 1: forensics expert, joining me out of the Florida jurisdiction before
35:19
Speaker 1: she was busted getting rid of evidence in a murder case.
35:23
Speaker 1: Friends said she was quote deeply in love that Patrick
35:29
Speaker 1: Frasie was her quote first love quote. She was in
35:32
Speaker 1: love with him from a very young age. He had
35:36
Speaker 1: some kind of a hold on her. Now, see the
35:40
Speaker 1: story has morphed Karen Smith too. She was afraid. She
35:45
Speaker 1: was afraid he's going to get her girls, So that's
35:47
Speaker 1: why she did it. He's eight hundred miles away. She
35:50
Speaker 1: can call the cops and have him busted pronto for murder. No,
35:55
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. So how are we going to use
35:59
Speaker 1: her phone, his phone, social media, electronics, phone records to
36:04
Speaker 1: prove her involvement? Care and Smith, you're the forensics expert.
36:10
Speaker 1: You know what. They don't even need outright threats between
36:13
Speaker 1: Patrick Frazy and Crystal Lee Kenny. They don't. The fact
36:17
Speaker 1: is is that she drove eight hundred miles with Kelsey
36:21
Speaker 1: Barrett's cell phone in her possession, she sent false text
36:26
Speaker 1: to her work and to Patrick Frazie, knowing full well
36:29
Speaker 1: it's in the statement I knew Patrick Frasy committed a homicide.
36:34
Speaker 1: She didn't leave until two days later, November twenty fourth
36:38
Speaker 1: and November twenty fifth, so there were two days for
36:41
Speaker 1: her to sit around and think, what am I going
36:44
Speaker 1: to do? Am I going to go to the cops?
36:46
Speaker 1: Or am I going to go along with this plan?
36:48
Speaker 1: And don't give me the whole love thing, Nancy. You
36:50
Speaker 1: and I have had cases where that's been an argument,
36:53
Speaker 1: and I don't buy it one little bit. I want
36:56
Speaker 1: to know what she knew, when she knew it, and
36:59
Speaker 1: more important, how she knew it. Was she there or
37:03
Speaker 1: was she not? Those are the questions I want answers too. Well,
37:07
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. To Ellen Colora and crimal line
37:10
Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter, we still don't have Kelsey's body.
37:14
Speaker 1: This woman was murdered in her own town home. I
37:17
Speaker 1: wonder if this is a money motive, because she had
37:20
Speaker 1: just bought a two hundred fifty thousand town home on
37:23
Speaker 1: her own. She was a flying instructor. No help from
37:26
Speaker 1: the fiance, the father of her child. To our understanding,
37:31
Speaker 1: she may have had a life insurance policy on herself
37:34
Speaker 1: payable to the child or the father. That has not
37:38
Speaker 1: been explored. But I can't think of any other motive
37:42
Speaker 1: why he would kill her. I mean, they weren't even married.
37:45
Speaker 1: There wasn't going to be a messy divorce. It would
37:47
Speaker 1: have been a break Ellen, right now, still nobody, how
37:51
Speaker 1: was that going to affect Kelley if she grows up?
37:53
Speaker 1: No idea where her mother's body is. Who has custody
37:56
Speaker 1: right now? Ellen, of little Kelly Kelsey's parents to the
38:00
Speaker 1: maternal grandparents have had custody of their one year old daughter.
38:04
Speaker 1: And Anton, you make a really good point here about
38:07
Speaker 1: we don't know where the body is. A body has
38:09
Speaker 1: not been found yet. And yet here's this woman who
38:14
Speaker 1: obviously knows a lot about what happened here getting a
38:18
Speaker 1: very very very sweet plea deal when she played a
38:21
Speaker 1: role in this, in this murder. So perhaps she knows
38:25
Speaker 1: something about where that body is. We wait as justice unfolds.
38:29
Speaker 1: This should be back in court in a matter of days.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray's crime Story signing off Goodbye Friend,