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- 0:00Speaker 1: Good morning Crooks.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time.
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- 1:38Speaker 8: It is Ashley Ryan, Bucky Jacobson, and Chuck Powell with you.
- 1:41Speaker 8: We've got Monday Morning Quarterback coming your way, of course,
- 1:45Speaker 8: on a frost brewed course light choose Chill Monday, counting
- 1:49Speaker 8: you down to even more football tonight at five point
- 1:52Speaker 8: fifteen with Arizona taking on Dallas and we'll talk a
- 1:55Speaker 8: little bit about that coming up on the radio program
- 1:59Speaker 8: here today. And what an interesting like forty eight hours
- 2:02Speaker 8: and sports that we're getting ready for. We're not only
- 2:05Speaker 8: coming off a very interesting football weekend, but there's all
- 2:08Speaker 8: sorts of activities all over the place here for the
- 2:11Speaker 8: next forty eight hours. And I'll map that out for
- 2:14Speaker 8: you coming up here in a moment with what is
- 2:17Speaker 8: on tap. But of course we start with the Seahawks.
- 2:20Speaker 8: They were given the prime time stage last night of
- 2:24Speaker 8: Sunday Night Football on NBC and boy did they show out.
- 2:30Speaker 8: What an impressive performance by the Seahawks. They win by
- 2:34Speaker 8: a final score of thirty eight to fourteen, and as
- 2:37Speaker 8: they say, it wasn't even that close. It was a
- 2:40Speaker 8: runaway from the beginning, a laugher towards the end. And
- 2:45Speaker 8: certainly there's a major injury that takes place in this game.
- 2:51Speaker 8: But leave it to the Low Hanging Fruit Network that
- 2:56Speaker 8: I had to be watching here this morning, and of
- 3:00Speaker 8: course they think that the lead story is that Dan
- 3:03Speaker 8: Quinn left his quarterback in too long, which I think
- 3:06Speaker 8: there's a conversation to have there. I think there's a debate,
- 3:09Speaker 8: and I'm sure that we'll have that debate. But to me,
- 3:13Speaker 8: and I don't think this is because I do Seattle
- 3:15Speaker 8: Sports radio. The number one story last night was the
- 3:19Speaker 8: Seahawks are for damn real and number two Sam Donald
- 3:23Speaker 8: played the quarterback position better than anyone has ever played
- 3:28Speaker 8: it for a half of football last night. That was insane.
- 3:32Speaker 8: How great he was last night. You can't play football
- 3:36Speaker 8: better than what Sam Donald played football for the first
- 3:39Speaker 8: half of that football game last night.
- 3:41Speaker 7: Well, it was like impeccable. I don't know if there's
- 3:43Speaker 7: anything he could even think. Wow, man, I could have
- 3:46Speaker 7: put that like an inch closer when I was dropping
- 3:49Speaker 7: the thirty yard dime in there, I could I mean
- 3:52Speaker 7: if he did have to extend his arms almost all
- 3:55Speaker 7: the way and I'm with you, I mean it was
- 3:58Speaker 7: that was utter dominance. And I mean to some degree
- 4:02Speaker 7: you go into it thinking, well, okay, who are the
- 4:05Speaker 7: Washington commanders? Doesn't matter. I mean, I don't think it
- 4:07Speaker 7: matters who. I mean it was really there was times
- 4:10Speaker 7: when guys were open and yet it was thrown perfectly
- 4:14Speaker 7: where even if they were covered better, they're not going
- 4:16Speaker 7: to be it's not going to be stopping where it was.
- 4:19Speaker 7: The decision making part of it, the occasional time that
- 4:23Speaker 7: he had kind of a pocket somewhat collapsing around him,
- 4:27Speaker 7: still keeping his eyes downfield and finding the open guy.
- 4:30Speaker 7: I mean, was it twelve for twelve his first twelve,
- 4:33Speaker 7: sixteen for sixteen for sixteen, sixteen for sixteen at halftime,
- 4:36Speaker 7: two hundred and eighty two yards, four touchdowns.
- 4:39Speaker 6: That's pretty good, That's right.
- 4:40Speaker 8: Not really, I mean, you just can't play. I mean, yeah,
- 4:43Speaker 8: I'm sure there's a football person out there that could
- 4:45Speaker 8: craft an argument out there that you know, has memorized
- 4:51Speaker 8: every single game great quarterback and can tell me that,
- 4:54Speaker 8: oh no, based off of the competition that he and
- 4:57Speaker 8: how banged up that they were and all this stuff.
- 5:00Speaker 8: I'm sure that there's an argument out there. I mean,
- 5:02Speaker 8: we've got all a football history to comb through where
- 5:04Speaker 8: you're gonna find a quarterback that had even more difficult
- 5:08Speaker 8: circumstances and still put up nearly perfect numbers for a half.
- 5:12Speaker 6: But I don't remember when it happened.
- 5:15Speaker 8: I mean, that was playing the most important position in
- 5:19Speaker 8: sports as well as you can play it for an
- 5:22Speaker 8: entire half.
- 5:22Speaker 9: Yeah, it was incredible, And I just remember with each
- 5:25Speaker 9: touchdown that I was watching, and I just kind of
- 5:29Speaker 9: had a different, like one word, that's all I could say,
- 5:32Speaker 9: because it was like, first it was like wow, then
- 5:34Speaker 9: it was something along those sides. I remember when it
- 5:37Speaker 9: was the Cody White touched up, I just laughed. I
- 5:40Speaker 9: was like, what is happening? This is amazing, and I
- 5:42Speaker 9: just started laughing. I was like, I can't believe this.
- 5:44Speaker 9: I can't believe we're watching this right now on Sunday night.
- 5:46Speaker 8: Yeah, and another game without him being sacked. So I'm
- 5:48Speaker 8: sure the offense had something to do with it. Jackson
- 5:51Speaker 8: Smith and Jig but clearly can't be covered by any
- 5:53Speaker 8: human being or human beings, so that has something to
- 5:57Speaker 8: do with it. I give all the credit in the
- 5:58Speaker 8: world to Clint Kubia and what he has tapped into
- 6:01Speaker 8: offensively to get this thing going. The one thing, I mean,
- 6:06Speaker 8: Chris collins Worth even said it last night, and I
- 6:08Speaker 8: think Chris collins Worth fantastic, but he said it last
- 6:10Speaker 8: night like, well, this is all happening because of the
- 6:12Speaker 8: running game.
- 6:13Speaker 6: No, yeah, no, it's not, Chris.
- 6:15Speaker 8: I mean, I know that what Greg has been telling
- 6:19Speaker 8: us all season long, there is truth to it. We
- 6:22Speaker 8: have to keep the defense honest, so we can't just
- 6:25Speaker 8: throw the ball every single time.
- 6:27Speaker 6: I get that.
- 6:28Speaker 8: I understand that even when it's not successful, you're still
- 6:32Speaker 8: trying to run the football to show that you can
- 6:34Speaker 8: run the football, and that's gonna make Sam Donald's job easier.
- 6:38Speaker 6: I get that.
- 6:39Speaker 8: But Sam Donald was great last night because Sam Donald
- 6:42Speaker 8: was great last night.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Period.
- 6:44Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 6:44Speaker 8: I mean, yes, there are other elements to it, and
- 6:48Speaker 8: I think Jackson Smith and Jigba might be the best
- 6:50Speaker 8: receiver in the world right now, but nobody's played the
- 6:53Speaker 8: position better than what Sam Donald did for the first
- 6:56Speaker 8: half of that.
- 6:56Speaker 7: Football game last night. Well, I mean it was near perfect,
- 6:59Speaker 7: and it was near perfect. I mean, it's it's surgical
- 7:02Speaker 7: and how he was doing it wasn't just Okay, Jackson
- 7:06Speaker 7: Smith and j but you can't cover him, so that's
- 7:08Speaker 7: all we're going to He was. He was a part
- 7:11Speaker 7: of it, a big part of it, obviously when you
- 7:13Speaker 7: look at the numbers at the end of it. But
- 7:15Speaker 7: he was spreading it around. Like you said, Cody White's
- 7:18Speaker 7: a guy that I mean, we know who he is,
- 7:20Speaker 7: but you weren't necessarily expecting him to have some big
- 7:24Speaker 7: backbreaking play. Tory Horton being, you know, the rookie who
- 7:28Speaker 7: still only got looked at a few times, but the
- 7:30Speaker 7: first couple of touchdowns were to him, and it was
- 7:32Speaker 7: it was the second play, I want to say, of
- 7:35Speaker 7: the game offensively for them where it was that quick
- 7:38Speaker 7: little slant and you could tell that I don't know
- 7:40Speaker 7: how much Kubiak scripts plays and whatnot, but you it
- 7:44Speaker 7: just looked like a we're going to do this play.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Then we're going to do this play, and he's going
- 7:49Speaker 1: to be open here.
- 7:50Speaker 7: Just if they set up any of these defenses, he's
- 7:52Speaker 7: going to be open on this one.
- 7:54Speaker 6: They hit him and it was.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Just like a quick little gash play up the middle.
- 7:58Speaker 7: I mean, it just looked like it was they were
- 8:00Speaker 7: clicking on all cylinders offensively. Sam Donald obviously gets the
- 8:04Speaker 7: lion's share of credit because he's the one has to
- 8:07Speaker 7: execute it. It doesn't matter if the line does the
- 8:09Speaker 7: blocking and the receiver gets somewhat open. If you throw
- 8:12Speaker 7: it behind him, it could be a pick or it
- 8:13Speaker 7: could be an incompletion. He was throwing absolute dimes left
- 8:17Speaker 7: and right, and you're right. I mean, it's weird how
- 8:20Speaker 7: the first impression that somebody gives when they come into
- 8:23Speaker 7: the league and unfortunately have to play for the Jets,
- 8:25Speaker 7: how long that lingers with him because what you're watching
- 8:28Speaker 7: out of him majority of the last two years, for sure.
- 8:32Speaker 7: You know, maybe the end of last season threw some
- 8:35Speaker 7: red flags up because people just couldn't wait to put
- 8:38Speaker 7: the red flags bag up for him. But he's shown
- 8:40Speaker 7: this season there's really no reason to think that the
- 8:44Speaker 7: Jets Sam Donald is the real Sam Donald. That was
- 8:47Speaker 7: a young guy that didn't understand how to do it,
- 8:49Speaker 7: and he's kind of learned from the road he's had
- 8:52Speaker 7: to go down, and now he looks like a dude
- 8:54Speaker 7: that not only can play the position, but play the
- 8:56Speaker 7: position as well as anybody out there.
- 8:58Speaker 9: It was interesting you were saying, obviously, you know that
- 9:00Speaker 9: this is the best that you can remember, So I
- 9:02Speaker 9: just I was looking it up and it was. Nobody
- 9:04Speaker 9: since Tom Brady in two thousand and seven has started
- 9:07Speaker 9: a game with a pass touchdown on each of his
- 9:08Speaker 9: team's first four positions while also having a completion percentage
- 9:12Speaker 9: of one hundred so since two thousand and seven, and
- 9:15Speaker 9: he is the only quarterback since Johnny Unitus with at
- 9:18Speaker 9: least three hundred and twenty five passing yards, four passing touchdowns,
- 9:21Speaker 9: three or fewer incomplete passes, and zero sacks.
- 9:24Speaker 4: And that was in sixty seven against the Falcons.
- 9:26Speaker 8: And everything certainly was humman last night. I mean, everything
- 9:30Speaker 8: that the team did was just terrific. I mean, and
- 9:33Speaker 8: we all get into the defense and how I thought
- 9:35Speaker 8: it confused Jaden Daniels throughout the course of the evening,
- 9:39Speaker 8: But I mean, and I get it. And it's easier
- 9:43Speaker 8: to play the position when kind of everything's in a rhythm.
- 9:46Speaker 8: And they did establish something of a running game last night,
- 9:51Speaker 8: and there were open receivers and he did have time
- 9:54Speaker 8: to throw, but man, the progressions he was making, the
- 9:58Speaker 8: quick reads and just getting rid of the football, and
- 10:01Speaker 8: yet it wasn't affecting the accuracies of accuracies of the throws.
- 10:06Speaker 8: I mean, it was just a clinic that he was
- 10:10Speaker 8: putting on. And there are a ton of other things
- 10:12Speaker 8: to talk about here last night, but the fact that
- 10:14Speaker 8: the national shows didn't come on the air this morning
- 10:17Speaker 8: and start with how amazing the Seahawks looked last night
- 10:21Speaker 8: versus couldn't wait to show a gruesome injury and then
- 10:25Speaker 8: blame Dan Quinn for it. I think is embarrassing and
- 10:28Speaker 8: that network is embarrassing. It has turned into an embarrassment.
- 10:31Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, if it's not the lead story, it sucks.
- 10:34Speaker 7: It was a I don't know what you call non
- 10:37Speaker 7: exclamation point at the end of it. It was just like,
- 10:39Speaker 7: oh man, it totally took away from what we were
- 10:42Speaker 7: watching because it was the Seahawks show pretty much, I
- 10:46Speaker 7: mean offensively, defensively. Sam Darnold kind of the front of
- 10:49Speaker 7: that whole bad boy and yet the way in which
- 10:52Speaker 7: that happened, you're like, oh man, terrible that. Yeah, it
- 10:55Speaker 7: was horrible, And I agree. I think that there's maybe
- 10:57Speaker 7: a conversation to have about whether or not he should
- 11:00Speaker 7: be in the game.
- 11:01Speaker 8: I've seen plenty of quarterbacks in my lifetime this year,
- 11:06Speaker 8: throughout my lifetime that are left in the game. In
- 11:09Speaker 8: that situation, Let's try to get a little momentum. Let's
- 11:11Speaker 8: try to get her off. Jay and Yam played in
- 11:13Speaker 8: a couple of weeks, you know, I mean, they've got
- 11:16Speaker 8: their second string defense out there. Let's just try to
- 11:19Speaker 8: get a little moment I've seen that happen tons. Yeah,
- 11:23Speaker 8: and just because the guy ends up getting hurt. And oh,
- 11:26Speaker 8: by the way, he kept avoiding traffic all night long, narrowly.
- 11:32Speaker 8: I mean it looked like I mean, he sometimes has
- 11:36Speaker 8: his own worst enemy because he wants to tuk and
- 11:39Speaker 8: run the football. And I think Mike McDonald's defense was
- 11:43Speaker 8: confusing him from the beginning of the game. He couldn't
- 11:46Speaker 8: get open looks, couldn't get the look that he was
- 11:48Speaker 8: waiting for. So to me, i've seen NFL head coaches
- 11:53Speaker 8: and their starting quarterback out in that situation. I would
- 11:57Speaker 8: say far more often than not. I mean, I don't
- 12:00Speaker 8: remember the last time that a NFL head coach kind
- 12:04Speaker 8: of pulled this guy with eight minutes left in the
- 12:06Speaker 8: fourth quarter. I'm sure it's happened, but I think more
- 12:10Speaker 8: often they stick with him and for people to try
- 12:13Speaker 8: to You've just ruined the Commanders, dan Quinn. I mean,
- 12:17Speaker 8: he was already upset enough that he loses, loses badly,
- 12:22Speaker 8: gets embarrassed on national television his team, and he's also
- 12:26Speaker 8: lost his quarterback, who everybody on that team loves, to
- 12:29Speaker 8: a gruesome injury. Yeah, it was bad enough. I'm not
- 12:32Speaker 8: gonna also lay it dan Quinn's feet that he should have.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Had him out of the game.
- 12:35Speaker 8: There's an argument for having him out of the game.
- 12:38Speaker 8: It did cross my mind should he still be in here?
- 12:40Speaker 8: But then again, I was facing him in fantasy, So
- 12:43Speaker 8: to me, I'm like, I think maybe that's bias on
- 12:47Speaker 8: my part. That's what ran through my mind. I'm like,
- 12:49Speaker 8: maybe he should be out of the game. But is
- 12:51Speaker 8: that me with my own bias wanting him out of
- 12:54Speaker 8: the game, and then he ends up getting hurt and
- 12:57Speaker 8: I didn't sit there, so she should have taken him
- 12:59Speaker 8: out of the game. I've seen coaches leave quarterbacks in
- 13:02Speaker 8: in that situation probably four out of.
- 13:05Speaker 6: Five times, nine out of ten times.
- 13:07Speaker 7: Maybe, yeah, Well, I mean it's like, okay, well, then
- 13:09Speaker 7: where would the line be when they When the Seahawks
- 13:12Speaker 7: scored the touchdown to go up thirty eight to seven,
- 13:15Speaker 7: like it's just okay, that's it, or we can't got
- 13:17Speaker 7: to pull him out now, or is there still Yeah,
- 13:20Speaker 7: the dude hasn't played in a couple of weeks. He
- 13:23Speaker 7: is the straw that stirs this drink. We have a
- 13:26Speaker 7: long season left to go. We're not punting on the season.
- 13:29Speaker 7: And yet now they might the folks might be saying, well, yeah,
- 13:33Speaker 7: if he gets hurt, you're gonna have to punt on
- 13:35Speaker 7: the season. I just think that there's I don't think
- 13:38Speaker 7: that you go through any sporting event as a coach
- 13:41Speaker 7: or as a player with fear of getting hurt. You
- 13:44Speaker 7: just kind of know it's gonna happen. Probably you just
- 13:47Speaker 7: hope it's not anything bad, and you hope that it's
- 13:50Speaker 7: not in a situation like this where people, the critics
- 13:53Speaker 7: can come out of the woodworks and start, you know,
- 13:55Speaker 7: calling for your head, because to me, it's I didn't
- 13:57Speaker 7: think I didn't think it was some egregious how dare
- 14:00Speaker 7: you have him in there? At that point? Now, it
- 14:02Speaker 7: did seem like from that point on, both teams said
- 14:05Speaker 7: everybody out of the game, special teamers, you all are
- 14:09Speaker 7: back in there because it's the what you can't play
- 14:14Speaker 7: any sport with like a fear like that.
- 14:17Speaker 6: You just can't do it.
- 14:17Speaker 7: You're not going to especially football. I would think you
- 14:20Speaker 7: have to go out there and play full blast and
- 14:22Speaker 7: hope that the collisions don't end in something gruesome. And
- 14:25Speaker 7: yet then when it comes crashing right down, and then
- 14:28Speaker 7: you look at the scoreboard and you're like, oh, man,
- 14:30Speaker 7: we really can't risk anybody that's that we really have
- 14:34Speaker 7: kind of penciled in and their plans for this season,
- 14:37Speaker 7: then you make that move. But yeah, the main thing
- 14:40Speaker 7: should have been and it was for majority of the
- 14:42Speaker 7: night at least from the people calling the game, not
- 14:44Speaker 7: you know, the other networks afterwards that take the low
- 14:47Speaker 7: hanging fruit. But the main topic was the Seahawks and
- 14:50Speaker 7: how good they are.
- 14:50Speaker 9: Yeah, and they even brought up the MVP MVP conversation
- 14:55Speaker 9: they put him I mean during the broadcast, I will say,
- 14:58Speaker 9: as far as the Jayden Daniels injury, it's you know,
- 15:01Speaker 9: everything's easy in hindsight, right, And that's when everybody started
- 15:04Speaker 9: screaming on social media, why was he in the game.
- 15:07Speaker 9: Well after he got hurt, you weren't out there screaming
- 15:09Speaker 9: it at the top of your lungs when he was
- 15:10Speaker 9: still in there. And I can completely understand leaving him
- 15:13Speaker 9: in when he has been out and it's an opportunity
- 15:15Speaker 9: to knock some of that rust off and get things going,
- 15:18Speaker 9: try some things. I mean, obviously, I know Joe Flacco
- 15:21Speaker 9: not the same level of caliber quarterback to the team
- 15:24Speaker 9: that Jayden Daniels is to the Commanders. But they were
- 15:26Speaker 9: down fourteen with three minutes left and he was still
- 15:29Speaker 9: in the game, and look what happened.
- 15:30Speaker 4: They almost won it.
- 15:31Speaker 6: They should have won it. Yeah. Yeah.
- 15:32Speaker 8: As a matter of fact, I did write down though
- 15:36Speaker 8: after because I wrote down Daniel sacked injured, and then
- 15:40Speaker 8: I realized, oh he has a broken left arm. Wow, horrible,
- 15:46Speaker 8: And so I wrote all that down, and then I
- 15:48Speaker 8: wrote it as a topic, why is he still in?
- 15:50Speaker 8: Like it's worth discussing, Yeah, you know, and then I
- 15:54Speaker 8: wrote lock better be in the next time the Seahawks
- 15:56Speaker 8: take a snap, better not see Sam Darnold.
- 16:01Speaker 6: Though.
- 16:01Speaker 9: When the Seahawks takes a field you're ahead, that's when
- 16:05Speaker 9: you pull your starting quarterback when you're ahead by a lot.
- 16:08Speaker 4: I get that.
- 16:09Speaker 8: Thirty eight fourteen Seahawks went over the Washington Commanders. Obviously
- 16:12Speaker 8: a lot to discuss. We will have Hugh Millen coming
- 16:15Speaker 8: up here on the radio program. Cannot wait to hear
- 16:18Speaker 8: his take on the quarterback play. I mean he has
- 16:21Speaker 8: a phrase quarterback p O r N A feeling, say
- 16:26Speaker 8: that I have a feeling, I have a feeling. You know,
- 16:30Speaker 8: he was gonna come out of the film room cigarette saying.
- 16:36Speaker 4: Was it good for you?
- 16:37Speaker 8: Let's find out what's on tap for the rest of
- 16:39Speaker 8: the show.
- 16:42Speaker 3: What's on TEP? What's on TEP?
- 16:46Speaker 6: All right?
- 16:46Speaker 8: Also, Mike Holmernold join us at nine o'clock today, so
- 16:49Speaker 8: we're right back to the grand old Monday morning quarterback schedule.
- 16:54Speaker 8: Hugh from eight to ten, coach from nine to ten.
- 16:57Speaker 8: I like to say it is a complete schedule with
- 16:59Speaker 8: Greg seven five, but he's flying back from Washington, d C.
- 17:04Speaker 8: Therefore we won't get the chance. And this is a
- 17:06Speaker 8: really good.
- 17:07Speaker 6: Day to trotlick Greg because there's a lot going on.
- 17:09Speaker 8: But we've got a nice pinchator for you, former Seahawks
- 17:14Speaker 8: running back Robert Turbin, who's doing some media work, including
- 17:17Speaker 8: with our own Anders Hurst in postgame shows. So we're
- 17:21Speaker 8: gonna have him on today at seven oh five. Get
- 17:23Speaker 8: his thoughts on the seahawks thirty eight to fourteen win
- 17:26Speaker 8: over Washington. Next up for six and two Seattle, they'll
- 17:30Speaker 8: be home to the Arizona Cardinals. Next week, they'll face
- 17:33Speaker 8: another team playing on Monday night football for a second
- 17:36Speaker 8: week in a row. The Cardinals will play tonight against
- 17:39Speaker 8: the Dallas Cowboys, and interestingly enough, Kyler Murray is not
- 17:42Speaker 8: starting and a lot of people are reading into this.
- 17:46Speaker 8: You know, Cardinals are saying he just doesn't look one
- 17:48Speaker 8: hundred percent. Other people are saying, I think maybe he's
- 17:52Speaker 8: getting bingched, and then they're wondering if he'll be traded
- 17:56Speaker 8: by tomorrow. And yet the Cardinals are denying all of that.
- 18:02Speaker 8: So a lot of noise going into this game tonight,
- 18:05Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys and Arizona Cardinals.
- 18:07Speaker 6: More on that in a moment.
- 18:09Speaker 8: Yes, Jane Daniels left the game last night with a
- 18:12Speaker 8: gruesome injury. It is a dislocated left elbow. He is
- 18:16Speaker 8: likely to miss the entire season, but it's not a
- 18:20Speaker 8: sure thing that'll miss the entire season. I think in
- 18:24Speaker 8: a weird way, the Commanders are better off, and I
- 18:27Speaker 8: will explain that a little bit later on in the show.
- 18:31Speaker 8: Josh Allen outdueld Patrick Mahomes. The Bills win over the
- 18:35Speaker 8: Kansas City Chiefs. They do have their number during the
- 18:38Speaker 8: regular season, it's just in the playoffs they can't beat them.
- 18:42Speaker 4: Ash to be important.
- 18:43Speaker 8: Ashley nailed it in our Factor fiction. So we'll play
- 18:47Speaker 8: some more Factor fiction today coming up at seven thirty five,
- 18:49Speaker 8: and we'll go over the entire NFL scoreboard at six
- 18:53Speaker 8: point thirty with cold turkey sandwich aboard of scores. Now,
- 18:56Speaker 8: I said, this was a really interesting forty eight hours
- 18:59Speaker 8: of sports. Not only do we have NFL College Weekend
- 19:03Speaker 8: to recap, the first playoff show is tomorrow, so we'll
- 19:06Speaker 8: know the first official unofficial college football rankings for the season.
- 19:12Speaker 6: So that's tomorrow.
- 19:13Speaker 8: The new College Football Poll has you dubbed ranked this week,
- 19:17Speaker 8: so we need to find some time to talk about that.
- 19:19Speaker 8: They're number twenty four in the latest poll, and I
- 19:22Speaker 8: think it is time for them to crack the top
- 19:23Speaker 8: twenty five. We'll talk about that later on. The college
- 19:27Speaker 8: basketball season starts today. There's already a game being played.
- 19:33Speaker 8: You heard me right, There is a college basketball game
- 19:36Speaker 8: being played as we speak. There will be one hundred
- 19:40Speaker 8: and sixty nine college basketball games played today and you
- 19:44Speaker 8: dub will play the last one and sixty nine of
- 19:47Speaker 8: one sixty nine tonight against Arkansas Pine Bluff. So, whether
- 19:52Speaker 8: you're ready or not, college basketball season is here. The
- 19:54Speaker 8: Sounders have a playoff match tonight. Their season is on
- 19:58Speaker 8: the line, so match number two of the three game
- 20:02Speaker 8: or three match series with Minnesota United. The Sounders of
- 20:05Speaker 8: course have to win both the remaining matches in order
- 20:09Speaker 8: to advance. But Brian Schmetzer has been here before, He's
- 20:11Speaker 8: done this before, he'll probably do it again. Match number
- 20:15Speaker 8: two starts at seven point thirty right here in Seattle
- 20:18Speaker 8: out at Lumenfield.
- 20:19Speaker 6: The Kraken are.
- 20:20Speaker 4: In action tonight.
- 20:21Speaker 8: They're going to host the Blackhawks at seven o'clock right
- 20:24Speaker 8: here at Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Speaking
- 20:28Speaker 8: of Chicago, the Cubs had three Gold Glovers named. Yes,
- 20:32Speaker 8: I don't know why Major League Baseball did this in
- 20:34Speaker 8: the middle of the NFL Sunday, but they announced all
- 20:38Speaker 8: the Gold Glove award winners and the Mariners didn't get anyone.
- 20:42Speaker 8: Julio was the only qualifier and he did not get it.
- 20:45Speaker 8: It was Sadan Rafaela of Boston who ended up winning
- 20:49Speaker 8: the Major League Baseball gold Club, and of course we
- 20:52Speaker 8: have a world champion in Major League Baseball. We have
- 20:55Speaker 8: not had a chance, of course, to chat about the
- 20:58Speaker 8: amazing World Series between the Blue Jays and the Los
- 21:01Speaker 8: Angeles Dodgers coming to an end on Saturday night, the
- 21:04Speaker 8: Dodgers winning a chance to laugh at Blue Jays fans
- 21:08Speaker 8: coming up later in the show, but coming up next,
- 21:11Speaker 8: it's cold Turkey sandwich aboard of scores, all of your
- 21:14Speaker 8: NFL action from Sunday recap for you on Chuck and
- 21:18Speaker 8: Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 21:24Speaker 10: And Darnal Roll throw it into touchdown Tory Partneys in
- 21:31Speaker 10: Russian five. Darnald taking a shutout field open it Jennis
- 21:35Speaker 10: Parton for a touchdown. The rookie has two in the
- 21:40Speaker 10: first two quarters.
- 21:43Speaker 3: Seattle right back at it. Darnald nine of nine on
- 21:46Speaker 3: the night, takes another shot and it's contre a royal
- 21:50Speaker 3: to the touchdown.
- 21:52Speaker 11: Elsa Arroyo with his first NFL touchdown.
- 21:58Speaker 6: Play eteer on first down.
- 22:00Speaker 3: Thirteen thirteen to the races.
- 22:04Speaker 11: It's right, all the right, Cody White for the touchdown,
- 22:09Speaker 11: the first of his NFL career.
- 22:13Speaker 12: That finale last night was a completely horrible one sided
- 22:17Speaker 12: game that was never in question, and that's because of
- 22:19Speaker 12: how good Sam Donald was.
- 22:20Speaker 6: I am screaming this morning, talk about Sam Donald.
- 22:24Speaker 12: Does anybody care outside of a few platforms and a
- 22:27Speaker 12: few Twitter accounts, because Theattle Seahawks are a top five
- 22:30Speaker 12: team right now? What are they talking about on ESPN?
- 22:32Speaker 12: Are they talking about Sam Donald? Sam Donald put on
- 22:35Speaker 12: an absolute show and most of the talk as well.
- 22:38Speaker 3: Jaden dan Quin should Adam and who cares?
- 22:41Speaker 12: For a second, Let's talk about the Seahawks because they
- 22:43Speaker 12: are continuing to annihilate people in front of them and
- 22:46Speaker 12: I'm here.
- 22:46Speaker 8: For Oh look at Kyle brand Yeah, he was angry.
- 22:50Speaker 8: He had an angry run, the exact same take I
- 22:52Speaker 8: had this morning.
- 22:53Speaker 4: I know That's why I saw it. I was like,
- 22:54Speaker 4: wait a minute, I gotta play this.
- 22:55Speaker 6: Wow? How about that?
- 22:57Speaker 1: All right?
- 22:57Speaker 6: Kyle Brant?
- 22:58Speaker 8: Good for you?
- 22:58Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 22:58Speaker 8: High five buddy. Yeah. I couldn't agree more because I
- 23:02Speaker 8: said it first.
- 23:04Speaker 6: It's Chuck, Buck and Ashley with you.
- 23:05Speaker 8: We roll into the seven o'clock hour here on Sports
- 23:09Speaker 8: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. The Good Morning Football's
- 23:14Speaker 8: where we got the audio, that's where Kyle Brandt makes
- 23:16Speaker 8: a living and then you heard the highlights from NBC
- 23:19Speaker 8: of last night's blowout win over the Washington Commanders. The
- 23:23Speaker 8: final score was thirty eight to fourteen. Sam Donold a
- 23:26Speaker 8: perfect sixteen for sixteen two hundred and eighty two yards
- 23:29Speaker 8: and four touchdowns in the first half, and the Hawks.
- 23:33Speaker 6: Go on to an easy win.
- 23:35Speaker 8: That did end with Jade and Daniels getting injured and gruesomely,
- 23:40Speaker 8: he ended up dislocating his left elbow. He is most
- 23:44Speaker 8: likely to miss the entire season, but it certainly did
- 23:48Speaker 8: not impact the outcome of that game last night. It
- 23:51Speaker 8: was well in hand for Mike McDonald and the Hawks,
- 23:54Speaker 8: who improve on the season to six and two on
- 23:57Speaker 8: the year. Next up, they'll take on the Arazon Cardinals,
- 24:00Speaker 8: who will play Monday Night football. To wrap up this
- 24:03Speaker 8: week in the NFL against the Dallas Cowboys. Five point
- 24:07Speaker 8: fifteen kickoff, and we'll lead your right up to it
- 24:10Speaker 8: on a frost browed corps light.
- 24:11Speaker 6: Choose chill Monday.
- 24:13Speaker 8: Speaking of frost brewed corps light, they also provide your
- 24:17Speaker 8: headlines at the top of the seven o'clock hour. The
- 24:20Speaker 8: first excuse me, NFL trading deadline. We are on the
- 24:23Speaker 8: eve of that. That is tomorrow. There was a significant
- 24:26Speaker 8: trade this morning. Miami sent to pass rusher Jalen Phillips
- 24:30Speaker 8: to Philadelphia for a third round pick. We're expecting a
- 24:33Speaker 8: lot more deals here in the next thirty hours before
- 24:35Speaker 8: the deadline tomorrow. The first playoff show of college football
- 24:39Speaker 8: will be held tomorrow as well, so we'll find out
- 24:43Speaker 8: where everybody ranks in the first unofficial official college football
- 24:47Speaker 8: playoff rankings of the new year College Football Polls. You
- 24:51Speaker 8: dub is now ranked number twenty four, first time they've
- 24:54Speaker 8: been ranked all season long. College basketball. Yes, the season
- 24:58Speaker 8: starts today. It's all lady underway. There are already a
- 25:01Speaker 8: couple of games being played. There will be one hundred
- 25:03Speaker 8: and sixty nine of them played today. The one hundred
- 25:06Speaker 8: and sixty ninth game, chronologically will be you dubbed. They
- 25:10Speaker 8: will play the last game of the day against Arkansas
- 25:13Speaker 8: Pine Bluff at eight o'clock tonight. Sounders that their season
- 25:16Speaker 8: is on the line, They will play at seven thirty
- 25:18Speaker 8: tonight at Luminfield. They must win their next two games
- 25:22Speaker 8: against Minnesota United or their season comes to a close.
- 25:25Speaker 8: The Kraken will host the Blackhawks tonight at seven o'clock
- 25:29Speaker 8: and Julio Rodriguez got.
- 25:30Speaker 6: Denied a gold glove.
- 25:32Speaker 8: All Mariners did this time around as they were handed
- 25:35Speaker 8: out yesterday.
- 25:37Speaker 6: Meanwhile, the baseball.
- 25:38Speaker 8: World celebrates the new world champion Los Angeles Dodgers. Those
- 25:45Speaker 8: are your headlines. And now this is usually where we
- 25:48Speaker 8: transition to Greg Bell. We've got a special treat.
- 25:50Speaker 6: For you today.
- 25:51Speaker 8: Joining us now and plays at Greg Bell today. Former
- 25:55Speaker 8: Seahawks running back and he is working in the media
- 25:58Speaker 8: these days. He does the Seahawks Square Odd Show postgame
- 26:01Speaker 8: show with the Anders Hurst, Chris Crawford and others.
- 26:05Speaker 6: Uh.
- 26:05Speaker 8: I guess they decided, let's get somebody that knows football
- 26:09Speaker 8: and yeah, yeah to me on our postgame show and so.
- 26:14Speaker 6: Yeah makes sense.
- 26:16Speaker 8: Really is we welcome in the man with the largest
- 26:20Speaker 8: biceps in North America. Robert Turbin is with us right
- 26:23Speaker 8: here on Chuck and Buck. Good morning, Robert.
- 26:26Speaker 13: Well, look what's up. How we doing?
- 26:27Speaker 6: We're doing great?
- 26:28Speaker 1: Uh?
- 26:29Speaker 6: And you Yeah, I'm great.
- 26:31Speaker 13: I hope the uh hope the background music isn't too loud.
- 26:34Speaker 13: I'm in the gym, I'm trying to I'm in the
- 26:36Speaker 13: dem I'm.
- 26:37Speaker 14: Trying to list as.
- 26:38Speaker 6: Good as y'all.
- 26:38Speaker 13: Okay, I'm trying to get fit so as good as
- 26:42Speaker 13: you too.
- 26:42Speaker 8: So yeah, you just decided I have to have the
- 26:45Speaker 8: world's largest biceps. I can't stop just because I'm not
- 26:48Speaker 8: playing football. Is that what happened?
- 26:52Speaker 13: That's exactly right, because before you know it, my son
- 26:55Speaker 13: he's nine now, and then before you know it, it'll
- 26:58Speaker 13: be you know, nineteen, trying trying to one up his dad,
- 27:02Speaker 13: and I just can't.
- 27:02Speaker 14: I just can't have it happen.
- 27:04Speaker 6: You know.
- 27:05Speaker 13: Does he got to keep it as long as possible?
- 27:07Speaker 8: Does he have the natural monster bicep build that you
- 27:10Speaker 8: had at that age?
- 27:12Speaker 13: No, No, he's he's he's actually more lean.
- 27:15Speaker 6: Okay, you know, yeah, he's more lean.
- 27:18Speaker 13: He looks like a like a track star, like a
- 27:21Speaker 13: track guy, you know, like a like a like a
- 27:24Speaker 13: like a high jumper or something.
- 27:25Speaker 3: You know that works.
- 27:26Speaker 13: But he's a lot more athletic than than I was
- 27:30Speaker 13: at that age.
- 27:30Speaker 1: For sure.
- 27:31Speaker 6: It worked out all right for you.
- 27:33Speaker 8: Well, thank you for joining us.
- 27:35Speaker 6: We appreciate it.
- 27:35Speaker 8: Sorry to bug you at the gym, but uh man,
- 27:38Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know. I was yelling this morning
- 27:43Speaker 8: about how the NFL networks were leading with Jayden Daniel's
- 27:47Speaker 8: injury over the fact that the Seahawks put on just
- 27:50Speaker 8: a show last night, just an absolute show. To me,
- 27:53Speaker 8: that's the headline that the Seahawks are one of the
- 27:56Speaker 8: best teams in the National Football League and Sam Darnold
- 27:59Speaker 8: might be one of the best quarterbacks in the National
- 28:01Speaker 8: Football League.
- 28:02Speaker 6: Your thoughts, well, I.
- 28:04Speaker 13: Mean, you can't argue with that. The Seahawks certainly did
- 28:07Speaker 13: do their thing last night. They put on the show.
- 28:09Speaker 13: They were hitting on all cylinders, you know, so it's
- 28:12Speaker 13: difficult to argue with the headlines there. But you know,
- 28:15Speaker 13: Jane Daniels number two overall pick franchise quarterback. If you
- 28:19Speaker 13: think about not only the injury itself, but the timing.
- 28:23Speaker 14: Of it, should he have been in the game, all
- 28:26Speaker 14: the question marks that are surrounding it, you know, which
- 28:29Speaker 14: store should be larger. I guess it's up to the
- 28:32Speaker 14: national media to decide. But when you take into account,
- 28:36Speaker 14: you know those other factors. Their season is over and
- 28:40Speaker 14: what did their future look like now with this type
- 28:44Speaker 14: of injury. I've had it just okay to elbow, and
- 28:47Speaker 14: it was a very gruesome and difficult injury to come
- 28:51Speaker 14: back from, and so I don't think that you know,
- 28:56Speaker 14: there should be any steam taken away from the Seahawks. Say,
- 29:00Speaker 14: but man, you know number two overall pick franchise quarterback,
- 29:05Speaker 14: that's certainly going to dominate the headlines this morning.
- 29:08Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it was a big deal obviously, and
- 29:11Speaker 7: it was gross, and it took away from the game
- 29:14Speaker 7: to some extent, But I mean getting to the part
- 29:17Speaker 7: of the game that was the biggest story up to
- 29:19Speaker 7: that point had to be the Seahawks, just the way
- 29:22Speaker 7: in which they played, kind of clicking on all cylinders
- 29:25Speaker 7: like you're talking about. But first and foremost, I mean
- 29:27Speaker 7: Sam Darnold starting out what sixteen for sixteen, I mean,
- 29:30Speaker 7: was basically perfect in the first half of that game. Anyways,
- 29:35Speaker 7: before that one interception that he threw, what are you
- 29:38Speaker 7: seeing in him? That might lead you down the path
- 29:41Speaker 7: the thing? And hey, not only is this guy a
- 29:44Speaker 7: great move for them to move from where they were
- 29:46Speaker 7: at before to where they're at now, but this might
- 29:49Speaker 7: legitimately be the franchise quarterback they've been looking for ever
- 29:52Speaker 7: since maybe Russ turned, you know, turned a different kind
- 29:56Speaker 7: of corner, so to speak.
- 29:58Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, look, he just played so much composer composure.
- 30:02Speaker 13: He's uh, you know, he's developed into a really really
- 30:04Speaker 13: good leader. It doesn't really matter what's going on in
- 30:07Speaker 13: the game, all the ups and downs in the abs
- 30:09Speaker 13: and flows that happens before a quarters of the football game,
- 30:12Speaker 13: you know, you can tell that he's you know, sort
- 30:14Speaker 13: of the same guy throughout, down after downs, and guys
- 30:18Speaker 13: really feet off of that, you know, guys really feet
- 30:20Speaker 13: off a quarterback who just has that mental fortitude, uh
- 30:24Speaker 13: to be able to overcome adversities and uh, you know,
- 30:28Speaker 13: to to not you know, really settle when things are
- 30:31Speaker 13: going good, to kind of keep it move the keeps
- 30:33Speaker 13: to uh, to keep things pushing in terms of wanting
- 30:36Speaker 13: to continue to do great things, you know, throughout the
- 30:39Speaker 13: football game. And that's where you see guys like AJ
- 30:41Speaker 13: Barner and you know some of these other players who
- 30:44Speaker 13: may not get all the notoriety, but they're stepping up
- 30:47Speaker 13: and they're making big time plays. I think that has
- 30:50Speaker 13: to go into what kind of synergy has been developed
- 30:53Speaker 13: within the offense, and it starts with you know, Sam Darnell,
- 30:56Speaker 13: you know, like you know, I'll give examples of like
- 30:59Speaker 13: I watched the Raider game yesterday and you know, of course,
- 31:03Speaker 13: you know, was our quarterback and he was a good
- 31:06Speaker 13: player and he's a good person. But you're not gonna
- 31:09Speaker 13: see Sam Donald slam his helmet onto the ground and
- 31:13Speaker 13: you know, kind of get over emotional despite whatever is
- 31:17Speaker 13: going on through a football game. And guys really really
- 31:20Speaker 13: feed off that type of composure coming from their leader.
- 31:23Speaker 13: And so he's been exceptional this season. This offense really
- 31:26Speaker 13: fits within his skill set. It's been awesome to watch.
- 31:29Speaker 8: Robert Turbin is with us, former Sea Hawk running back.
- 31:32Speaker 8: He's at the gym this morning. That's so on brand
- 31:35Speaker 8: for Robert Turbin right there and he joins us here
- 31:38Speaker 8: this morning to talk about the seahawks thirty eight to
- 31:40Speaker 8: fourteen win over the Commanders last night. Is Jackson Smith
- 31:44Speaker 8: and Jigma just unguardable?
- 31:48Speaker 13: I think so A lot of folks might think that
- 31:51Speaker 13: as well. And the reason is because he's not one dimensional.
- 31:56Speaker 13: You know, he's not a guy that is only a
- 31:59Speaker 13: slot guy. You know, he started off his career like that,
- 32:02Speaker 13: but then they found out that, oh man, he can
- 32:04Speaker 13: play on the outside. We can motion them and give
- 32:06Speaker 13: them the ball on.
- 32:07Speaker 14: A fly sweep.
- 32:08Speaker 13: He's got so much versatility in his game that it
- 32:11Speaker 13: makes them one of the toughest players in the NFL.
- 32:15Speaker 13: To guard you can't just key on him. You can't
- 32:17Speaker 13: just put double teams on him. You can't just brack
- 32:19Speaker 13: them because you know, Kobiak does a nice job moving
- 32:23Speaker 13: him around throughout different formations, ending them in motion, things
- 32:27Speaker 13: of that nature. So you know, because he has that
- 32:30Speaker 13: skill set, it makes him one of the hardest guys
- 32:33Speaker 13: to guard in the NFL.
- 32:35Speaker 7: Robert the you know, one of the talking points that
- 32:38Speaker 7: we've had most of this season was the hey, they're
- 32:41Speaker 7: going to run the ball.
- 32:41Speaker 2: Now.
- 32:42Speaker 7: Run the run game hasn't looked as great as maybe
- 32:45Speaker 7: we would have hoped, you know, the new outside zone
- 32:47Speaker 7: blocking scheme and see if that unleashes Ken Walker. Now,
- 32:50Speaker 7: they have ran the ball effectively at times, and yesterday
- 32:54Speaker 7: I think they had twenty four rushes to twenty four passes.
- 32:57Speaker 7: But from your more expert when you watch this team
- 33:01Speaker 7: is I'm wondering if it looks like they're even when
- 33:05Speaker 7: they're not running the ball. They have a lot of
- 33:07Speaker 7: heavy formations maybe twelve personnel, and then they're passing out
- 33:11Speaker 7: of that. Is that part of the reason that Sam
- 33:12Speaker 7: Darnold is looking so good and the part of the
- 33:15Speaker 7: reason that Jackson Smith and Jaguar might be uncoverable.
- 33:19Speaker 13: Yeah, no doubt about it. You know, because you line
- 33:21Speaker 13: up in those run looks, and you know, at the
- 33:23Speaker 13: end of the day, the instinct of a defense it
- 33:26Speaker 13: is to stop the run first, no matter what. And
- 33:29Speaker 13: you know, the Seahawks may not be getting necessarily the
- 33:32Speaker 13: the the numbers that that fans want to see, or
- 33:35Speaker 13: you know, even the Seahawks may want to see, but
- 33:38Speaker 13: the running game is being impactful enough for opposing defense
- 33:42Speaker 13: teams to respect it. And when you line up in
- 33:45Speaker 13: those heavy sets, if you if you if you show
- 33:48Speaker 13: up with a light box, well guess what. Sam Darling
- 33:51Speaker 13: is gonna check to a different play at the line
- 33:52Speaker 13: of scrimmage and run the football with twelve personnel, two
- 33:56Speaker 13: tight ends in the back against maybe a six man box.
- 33:59Speaker 13: But that's to show up with and that gives us
- 34:01Speaker 13: the advantage. Now we got we got a hat on
- 34:03Speaker 13: the hat, we got numbers, and so you have to
- 34:06Speaker 13: respect the fact that, you know, Seattle can still do
- 34:09Speaker 13: damage in the run game. If you know, if you
- 34:12Speaker 13: show up with a light box, so it just opens
- 34:14Speaker 13: up everything else down the field. And you know, to me,
- 34:18Speaker 13: you know, I know, we're looking at the numbers. To me,
- 34:20Speaker 13: the run game has still been impactful and and it
- 34:24Speaker 13: shows on tape because of how teams are still defending
- 34:26Speaker 13: it even though the quote unquote numbers aren't there.
- 34:30Speaker 6: You know what I give him credit for.
- 34:32Speaker 8: I thought, I think Clint Kubiak has been using Walker
- 34:35Speaker 8: and Charbonne at the last night. I thought he used
- 34:38Speaker 8: him at the right times, if that makes sense, Like, Okay,
- 34:41Speaker 8: neither of them were overly effective, but man, it just
- 34:46Speaker 8: you kind of felt their impact and it felt like
- 34:49Speaker 8: they were the right running back for the jobs they
- 34:51Speaker 8: were asking to do. Is that crazy or did you
- 34:54Speaker 8: feel the same thing.
- 34:56Speaker 13: No, I think it's exactly right. I think that impacted
- 34:59Speaker 13: the perfect words to describe how the Seahawks utilized their
- 35:03Speaker 13: run game and how they utilize dat Sharvionnay and Kenneth
- 35:06Speaker 13: Walker the third you know they're trying to put them
- 35:08Speaker 13: in scenarios you know where they can be most successful,
- 35:12Speaker 13: and so you know, to me, the impact is more
- 35:17Speaker 13: effective than the actual numbers. I compare to the Kent
- 35:21Speaker 13: City Chiefs with Kareem hunting Isaiah Pacheco. You know the
- 35:24Speaker 13: numbers might not be there, but you know their impact
- 35:29Speaker 13: shows up when teams are respecting the road.
- 35:32Speaker 8: Well, I just gotta just overall thoughts. I mean, after
- 35:36Speaker 8: a win like that six and two on the year,
- 35:39Speaker 8: four and oher on the road, they're the best road
- 35:41Speaker 8: team in the National Football League. Robert Turbin, How good
- 35:44Speaker 8: is this Seahawks team in your estimation right now?
- 35:48Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 35:48Speaker 13: It's the playoff team, no doubt about it. They got
- 35:51Speaker 13: to keep it rolling. You know, it's still long season ago.
- 35:55Speaker 13: But you know, to me, I thought the Commander's game
- 35:57Speaker 13: was critical because.
- 35:59Speaker 14: You couldn't lay an egg.
- 36:01Speaker 13: You couldn't lay an egg the way that the Green
- 36:04Speaker 13: Bay Packers did against the Carolina Panthers yesterday. You know,
- 36:08Speaker 13: if you if you're going to be a dominant team
- 36:10Speaker 13: in the NFL, then you know you gotta be able
- 36:13Speaker 13: to stump on the teams that aren't doing well. And
- 36:16Speaker 13: unfortunately the Commanders, you know, there's one of those teams
- 36:19Speaker 13: this season. And uh, for the Seahawks to go in
- 36:22Speaker 13: and dominate the game like that on the road, I
- 36:25Speaker 13: think says a lot about their future.
- 36:27Speaker 6: All right, So what to be doing?
- 36:29Speaker 8: You both bar bells, dumbbells?
- 36:31Speaker 1: What are you doing?
- 36:32Speaker 8: You hang upside down and you know, work out what's
- 36:35Speaker 8: the what's the secret to Robert Turbin and his physique?
- 36:40Speaker 13: No, I keep it simple man, little backsquad today, you know,
- 36:43Speaker 13: little little reverse lundon.
- 36:45Speaker 14: I just got done with a a slug push, you know.
- 36:50Speaker 6: Uh huh.
- 36:52Speaker 1: I keep I keep it.
- 36:53Speaker 14: I keep it pretty simple, trying to keep up with
- 36:55Speaker 14: you boys.
- 36:57Speaker 8: All right, man, Well, thank you very much. It was
- 36:59Speaker 8: great having you on here this morning, and appreciate you
- 37:02Speaker 8: breaking up the workout to join us. So we'll do
- 37:05Speaker 8: this again soon, if that's all right with you.
- 37:07Speaker 13: Yeah, anytime. I love I love tatting with you guys. Anytime.
- 37:10Speaker 8: All right, perfect, thanks man, Robert Durbin Turban joining us
- 37:15Speaker 8: right here on Chuck and Buck in the morning. Former
- 37:17Speaker 8: Seahawks running back at the gym. Oh, yeah, I've done all.
- 37:21Speaker 8: I've done a.
- 37:22Speaker 7: Slug push all right, I think he said sled push,
- 37:26Speaker 7: slug bush.
- 37:28Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I've done those two.
- 37:31Speaker 7: Yeah. How much weight do you have on the sled?
- 37:34Speaker 7: Usually thousands on the slug. Yeah, it's more intricate ash
- 37:43Speaker 7: you got to push.
- 37:43Speaker 9: It depends on the size of it.
- 37:47Speaker 6: Cooperate number one.
- 37:49Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't want to just push an uncooperative slug around.
- 37:52Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 37:53Speaker 8: So anyway, Robert and I we kind of know. We
- 37:56Speaker 8: speak each other's language. He definitely is trying to keep
- 38:00Speaker 8: up with us. That makes it.
- 38:02Speaker 9: I do like that he buttered you guys up though
- 38:03Speaker 9: right away. I'm trying to look as good as you guys.
- 38:06Speaker 4: I was like, has he seeing this show?
- 38:08Speaker 6: He knows how to do it.
- 38:13Speaker 4: I included myself in that. That's why I didn't say,
- 38:15Speaker 4: just you guys.
- 38:15Speaker 6: He knows how to do it. You know, you butt
- 38:17Speaker 6: him up at the beginning, butt him up at the end.
- 38:19Speaker 6: You can say anything you want.
- 38:21Speaker 7: I don't remember anything he said in them. Yeah, I really,
- 38:25Speaker 7: and I wrote some stuff down so I can't go.
- 38:27Speaker 6: Back to awful things about us.
- 38:30Speaker 7: I don't care either, he say, just trying to keep
- 38:32Speaker 7: up with us and try to look as good as us.
- 38:33Speaker 6: You're right, flattery, donut, flattery, donut. I love it. I
- 38:37Speaker 6: loved everything about it.
- 38:39Speaker 8: We appreciate Robert. Greg could not be with us today.
- 38:42Speaker 8: He's in Root back from DC, so we'll catch up
- 38:45Speaker 8: with him tomorrow. We're gonna have a lot to discuss
- 38:47Speaker 8: with Greg tomorrow. We've got the NFL trading deadline, Seahawks
- 38:53Speaker 8: injuries of their own coming out of that, and we
- 38:55Speaker 8: really haven't talked much about the defense. I mean, and
- 38:57Speaker 8: for good reason. I mean, sam Donold's such a headline.
- 39:00Speaker 8: The blowout is such a headline. Daniels is such a headline,
- 39:03Speaker 8: and it felt important to when we had Robert Turbin
- 39:06Speaker 8: on the show to talk about the running game a
- 39:08Speaker 8: little bit. But we haven't really talked about the defense
- 39:11Speaker 8: much at all. I mean, Tyle Cotta's interception was one
- 39:14Speaker 8: of the catches of the year, and for that to
- 39:15Speaker 8: come from US safety for goodness sake, I was phenomenal.
- 39:19Speaker 4: I thought Greg Bell's so happy he loves Tyle Kotta.
- 39:21Speaker 8: Oh yeah. Emon Wori just continues to stand out. I mean,
- 39:26Speaker 8: we got a superstar about ready to just lift off
- 39:31Speaker 8: in this league. I mean, at one point, did you
- 39:33Speaker 8: see the play where he lifted Debo off his feet
- 39:37Speaker 8: with one arm while fighting off a blocker.
- 39:40Speaker 6: With the other.
- 39:43Speaker 4: He's like a video game person and exactly.
- 39:47Speaker 6: Two to two at will.
- 39:48Speaker 8: This is Deebo Samuel, like one of the thickest, the
- 39:51Speaker 8: most physical wide receivers in NFL history, and he rolls
- 39:55Speaker 8: out there and he's trying to fight off a blocker
- 39:57Speaker 8: with his left arm and then just lifts him up
- 40:00Speaker 8: and keeps him from going one inch more toward the
- 40:03Speaker 8: first down marker. Phenomenal play, spoons energy. I mean, he
- 40:07Speaker 8: was leading the team in tackles until they took him
- 40:10Speaker 8: out of the game. Leonard Williams played great, even though
- 40:12Speaker 8: there was one strange play where he was running alongside
- 40:15Speaker 8: Jayden Daniels rather than tackling him.
- 40:17Speaker 4: That was odd crazy.
- 40:19Speaker 8: I don't know if he thought he was running sideways
- 40:21Speaker 8: and lost like his you know geography there, but that
- 40:26Speaker 8: was an odd play. But I mean the defense played
- 40:29Speaker 8: fantastic last night too. I thought Jade and Daniels spent
- 40:32Speaker 8: most of the first half looking very confused, which is
- 40:34Speaker 8: a credit to Mike McDonald and Aden Dirty. And so
- 40:38Speaker 8: it was just a terrific night night of dominance for
- 40:41Speaker 8: the Seahawks. And we will talk more about it coming
- 40:44Speaker 8: up with Hugh Millen at eight o'clock. Mike Holmran will
- 40:47Speaker 8: also join the conversation at nine. So Monday morning quarterback
- 40:50Speaker 8: today from eight to ten. And since this is the
- 40:53Speaker 8: big topic of the day according to the National people,
- 40:57Speaker 8: maybe we should sink our teeth a little further into this.
- 40:59Speaker 8: Jade Daniel's injury, so We'll talk about that next. Sports
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- 41:52Speaker 2: Quarterback with Mike hom Grin and Hugh Millin.
- 41:55Speaker 3: Here's Chuck and Buck Hi.
- 41:58Speaker 8: Yes it is Chuckaback on the Marll Sports Radio ninety
- 42:01Speaker 8: three point three khr FM. Good Monday morning to you.
- 42:04Speaker 8: Oh everybody in a good mood around here. Boy, you
- 42:06Speaker 8: get that way after your football team wins thirty eight
- 42:08Speaker 8: to fourteen on Sunday Night football. Oh yes, the flowers
- 42:12Speaker 8: they smelled better. The air feels cleaner. Yes, everything, the
- 42:16Speaker 8: coffee tasted a little coffeer. And so here we get
- 42:20Speaker 8: started here at eight o'clock with our QB one, Hugh
- 42:23Speaker 8: Millen is.
- 42:24Speaker 6: With us to break it all down. You have used
- 42:26Speaker 6: the po r N.
- 42:28Speaker 8: Word to discover Yeah, excellent quarterback play in the past.
- 42:32Speaker 8: While I would imagine you had quite the session last
- 42:35Speaker 8: night then in the case.
- 42:36Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm exhausted. I need a late morning now. Oh man,
- 42:43Speaker 15: Now what a curb stomp? I mean, I think these
- 42:45Speaker 15: things happen. I don't think if they played ten times
- 42:47Speaker 15: you're going to see that type of an outcome. But
- 42:50Speaker 15: you know what, they don't play ten times. They played once.
- 42:52Speaker 15: It was on national TV. It was beautiful. Three hundred
- 42:55Speaker 15: and thirty yards at halftime. I don't need a calculator
- 43:01Speaker 15: to double that stat I mean it was just a remarkable,
- 43:05Speaker 15: just avalanche.
- 43:06Speaker 6: You know, that's exactly coming off of a buy.
- 43:10Speaker 15: How you want to approach things to have that type
- 43:12Speaker 15: of intensity and that type of execution. The precision, the precision,
- 43:17Speaker 15: the execution, the complexity of the defense. I mean, man,
- 43:21Speaker 15: you gotta you gotta put your thinking cap on when
- 43:24Speaker 15: you study this defense. Uh, it's it's a fun team
- 43:27Speaker 15: to watch.
- 43:28Speaker 8: I know that, you know, you don't obsess over it,
- 43:32Speaker 8: but you do hold a record for twenty consecutive completions.
- 43:37Speaker 6: So were you're.
- 43:38Speaker 8: Thinking at all about Sam Darnold? You know, kind of uh,
- 43:42Speaker 8: you know, get making uncomfortable there around twenty I mean,
- 43:45Speaker 8: he wasn't checking down every other player like you did.
- 43:47Speaker 4: Oh but.
- 43:51Speaker 15: Well, the that was an AFC record, Uh.
- 43:55Speaker 6: And it was with the Broncos, and so the Broncos.
- 43:58Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I think I think I Bucky would know maybe,
- 44:02Speaker 15: but I think I still have.
- 44:03Speaker 6: It for the Broncos. But no, it was I didn't
- 44:09Speaker 6: know it at the time.
- 44:10Speaker 15: And and yeah, I ended up being twenty for twenty
- 44:13Speaker 15: and then the official play by play said a drop
- 44:17Speaker 15: on the twenty first, It literally says, the official.
- 44:20Speaker 6: Play by play drop ball.
- 44:22Speaker 15: And then there was four more completions, so I would
- 44:25Speaker 15: have had twenty five, which would still be the NFL record.
- 44:28Speaker 15: That the NFL record at the time was twenty two,
- 44:30Speaker 15: so by held by Joe Montana. Now, in what universe
- 44:34Speaker 15: do I deserve to take Joe Montana's every one of
- 44:37Speaker 15: them precisely, zero of them, obviously, but that would be
- 44:43Speaker 15: a cool record to have, but as.
- 44:47Speaker 6: It was, it was. But there was I think two
- 44:51Speaker 6: hundred ninety seven yards.
- 44:52Speaker 15: In those twenty completions. So back off on, yeah, yeah,
- 44:56Speaker 15: come on. So yeah, we had about fifteen yards perfect
- 44:59Speaker 15: per mc bucky smile.
- 45:01Speaker 6: He's a ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love you so much, love,
- 45:05Speaker 6: But enough of that. How about Sam Donald. Yeah that's
- 45:09Speaker 6: his seventeen.
- 45:09Speaker 8: Well let's get into it, and we won't go through
- 45:12Speaker 8: them all, but let's get a little detailed. Obviously, he
- 45:16Speaker 8: came out humming right there. Very first possession, you get
- 45:20Speaker 8: the football. After Jane Daniels looked a little confused by
- 45:24Speaker 8: Mike McDonald's defense, Sam Donald didn't look confused at all.
- 45:27Speaker 8: And so second and four from the sixteen yard line,
- 45:32Speaker 8: he gets it started with a perfect strike to Tory
- 45:36Speaker 8: Horton for thirteen yards.
- 45:38Speaker 15: So so Donald and really the theme of this is
- 45:41Speaker 15: the is the the details there. The precision is in
- 45:44Speaker 15: the details. So there's there's a bunch right out to
- 45:48Speaker 15: Donald's right. It's man and man covered. So he sees
- 45:52Speaker 15: three over three that takes his read to the double
- 45:55Speaker 15: slant side. Mike Homgood would call that lion and and
- 45:58Speaker 15: he's got Tory Horton in this Now, Tory, I know
- 46:01Speaker 15: my kid threw a bunch to him. At Colorado State.
- 46:04Speaker 15: Tory Horton normally is an outside receiver on the right side.
- 46:08Speaker 15: That's but as a rookie, now he's a slot receiver
- 46:11Speaker 15: on the left. On this play, he's he's got to
- 46:13Speaker 15: win against man coverage. And here's the here's the part
- 46:15Speaker 15: of the detail. It's like goldilocks in the porridge. If
- 46:18Speaker 15: you talk to Tory Horton on that play, man and
- 46:22Speaker 15: man that you've got a lurking defender in Bobby Wagner.
- 46:28Speaker 15: If if he's just trying to beat the corner over him,
- 46:31Speaker 15: he wants to take a flat angle away, but that's
- 46:34Speaker 15: going to get him into the linebacker too fast. So
- 46:37Speaker 15: if he just wants to avoid the linebacker is going
- 46:40Speaker 15: to keep it skinny and keep it high, so the
- 46:42Speaker 15: angle can be neither not too flat, not too high.
- 46:46Speaker 15: For the reasons I described, it's just right. It's perfect
- 46:50Speaker 15: NFL execution. You get thirteen yards. Well, that was just
- 46:53Speaker 15: kind of getting started on the thing. Obviously, after a
- 46:55Speaker 15: penalty for that one chop block by Oots. Then the
- 46:59Speaker 15: ends up getting his first completion to Jackson Smith and Jigba.
- 47:03Speaker 15: What'd you see on that one? Yeah, well it's a
- 47:06Speaker 15: five out protection. You're sending Kenneth Walker out to the
- 47:09Speaker 15: left side, but they there was an overload to that side.
- 47:13Speaker 6: So now he comes to.
- 47:14Speaker 15: The backside and he's got he's got a hold. He's
- 47:18Speaker 15: got to look to his left to make Bobby Wagner.
- 47:21Speaker 15: And early on, I'll tell you what he was playing
- 47:24Speaker 15: Bobby Wagner in like a marionette pubpet with his eyes
- 47:28Speaker 15: just moving Wagner. Wagner is trying to play his eyes.
- 47:31Speaker 15: He knew, he knew he had to move him, so
- 47:34Speaker 15: he moves left and then who's number four for the commanders.
- 47:37Speaker 15: Then he had to he had to move that guy
- 47:39Speaker 15: to the right and then opens up this window. A
- 47:42Speaker 15: beautiful anticipation on an inbreaking route. But but he goes
- 47:46Speaker 15: with his eyes Darnald left, Let me move Wagner, Let
- 47:49Speaker 15: me look to the flat. Let me move number four.
- 47:52Speaker 15: That will open a window between fifty four and four
- 47:55Speaker 15: and I'll hit Jackson Smith Smith Smith Smith and Jigba
- 47:58Speaker 15: coming in on that so the eye manipulation and the
- 48:01Speaker 15: anticipation on a backside read after having read the front
- 48:05Speaker 15: side to his left, beautiful quarterback.
- 48:07Speaker 8: For as frankieluvia. We got to recognize a coop. Yeah
- 48:10Speaker 8: that's a coop.
- 48:11Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, we can't just call it.
- 48:12Speaker 1: You have to.
- 48:13Speaker 8: Recognize a coup guy, don't fine, I get it all right.
- 48:17Speaker 8: So and then and I love this because right after
- 48:20Speaker 8: that thirteenth, so it's first and twenty five, and there's
- 48:23Speaker 8: just no panic at all shown by Sam. It's just like,
- 48:26Speaker 8: let's just get half of it here. And then they
- 48:27Speaker 8: get another penalty and that can tend to disrupt an
- 48:31Speaker 8: entire drive, and he's like, no panic. Second and seventeen.
- 48:34Speaker 8: I'm just gonna go right back to the horse Jackson
- 48:37Speaker 8: Smith and jigg but for fourteen more yards. It was
- 48:40Speaker 8: so beautiful because Washington didn't handle their fifteen yard penalty
- 48:44Speaker 8: well on the previous drive, and Sam just didn't panic
- 48:47Speaker 8: at all when they got backed up twice.
- 48:49Speaker 15: Good point and beautiful play calling here. This is a
- 48:53Speaker 15: Clint Kubiak like, dude, were you tapping into their uh
- 48:57Speaker 15: to their their headsets? In fact, I had a chech
- 49:00Speaker 15: exchange with Gary Kubiak, Clint's dad who for whom I played.
- 49:04Speaker 15: He was my quarterback coach, and just kind of commenting
- 49:07Speaker 15: is like, dude, you Clint must have been in on
- 49:10Speaker 15: the commander's headset feed because here here they roll the
- 49:14Speaker 15: strong side to Darnold's left, okay, meaning the corner of
- 49:18Speaker 15: the corner's gonna stay the flat. The safety is going
- 49:20Speaker 15: to go over the top. In this situation, you have
- 49:23Speaker 15: Jackson Smith and Jigba he motions he's in. He's the
- 49:26Speaker 15: running back in the flat and they're running a coverage
- 49:30Speaker 15: or they're trying to invert a cover to where the
- 49:33Speaker 15: where you have overhang defender. He's gonna scream out to
- 49:35Speaker 15: the sideline to try and play the wide flat area.
- 49:42Speaker 15: And Bobby Wagner is the next guy inside. He's the
- 49:45Speaker 15: curl defender. I wrote on my notes on this play
- 49:48Speaker 15: fifty four looks like a slow rookie. So the rookie
- 49:52Speaker 15: part was a linebacker of his veteran status. And I
- 49:56Speaker 15: love Bobby Wagner like he I described him last week,
- 49:59Speaker 15: the to accomplished Seahawk in a Seahawk uniform in the
- 50:03Speaker 15: history of the franchise. So so we all love Bobby Wagner.
- 50:06Speaker 15: But let's just talk about who fifty four is for
- 50:09Speaker 15: the commanders. How he would not know that the Injigba
- 50:13Speaker 15: lined up in the backfield is going to run an
- 50:15Speaker 15: option route. You know, he just he just kind of
- 50:17Speaker 15: spot and he had no awareness. And in Jigba for
- 50:20Speaker 15: his part, like this is where I stop and I
- 50:23Speaker 15: go the details his on this choice route, he would
- 50:27Speaker 15: say he would he could break out, he could break
- 50:29Speaker 15: in zone. He's gonna hook it up. And then later
- 50:32Speaker 15: he ran he had a vertical, so he is a
- 50:34Speaker 15: four way read, which not all running backs again, but
- 50:38Speaker 15: he's got a four way read in out, stop or vertical.
- 50:42Speaker 15: And as he senses how the the they're playing this
- 50:46Speaker 15: inverted coverage as I describe, he's going up the numbers
- 50:51Speaker 15: about two yards inside the numbers. But as he stops,
- 50:54Speaker 15: he kind of backs up and he gets on the numbers.
- 50:57Speaker 15: He kind of did a backpedal to like it's the
- 51:00Speaker 15: this unbelievable next level awareness of exactly where the coverage
- 51:04Speaker 15: is getting friendly for the quarterback in a position that's
- 51:08Speaker 15: going to maximize his run. After the Cats, he ends
- 51:11Speaker 15: up getting on that play fourteen yards.
- 51:14Speaker 6: It but it wasn't just.
- 51:15Speaker 15: That he stopped, because I could show you nine hundred
- 51:18Speaker 15: and ninety nine players that I've ever either played with
- 51:21Speaker 15: or studied that would turn around and stop in his
- 51:23Speaker 15: own It's that he stopped and widened as he was
- 51:28Speaker 15: doing it in a way that was clear with the
- 51:30Speaker 15: and Darnald was throwing them with anticipation. It's just like, hey,
- 51:33Speaker 15: if I back up here, I'm gonna be a little
- 51:36Speaker 15: bit further from Bobby Wagner, and I can do that
- 51:39Speaker 15: because the overhang defender was screaming to the sideline so
- 51:43Speaker 15: fast that the windows a little wider. Let me just
- 51:46Speaker 15: dissect that window perfect again, precisions in the details. That's
- 51:50Speaker 15: the difference between a seven yard eight yard game and
- 51:53Speaker 15: a fourteen yard game.
- 51:55Speaker 7: Yeah, well, obviously their connection is kind of clicking right now,
- 51:58Speaker 7: Sam Darnald and Jackson's Smith and Jig, But that one
- 52:01Speaker 7: basically still because of the penalty sets up a third
- 52:04Speaker 7: and three, and that's when Donold basically finds aj Barnery
- 52:08Speaker 7: right there for eight yards over the middle. I mean,
- 52:10Speaker 7: even when it's okay, third and three, we got to
- 52:13Speaker 7: convert here, he finds somebody, even if it's not his
- 52:15Speaker 7: security blanket in Jackson.
- 52:17Speaker 15: Yeah, and this is where and Chris, I think Chris
- 52:21Speaker 15: Collinsworths is Now this is just one man's opinion, very subjective.
- 52:24Speaker 15: I think he has become the best analysts in football,
- 52:28Speaker 15: and I think it's in part because he bought Pro
- 52:30Speaker 15: Football Pro Football Focus, and he has a lot of information.
- 52:34Speaker 15: He studies it more than he used to. But he
- 52:37Speaker 15: was really calling out, hey, this is Donald. Look at
- 52:39Speaker 15: his feet. He's coming back to his third receiver. Well,
- 52:42Speaker 15: I watched the tape. I could make an argument that
- 52:45Speaker 15: it's his third receiver because there's a concept I would
- 52:49Speaker 15: call black bugle, which is a go route and a
- 52:52Speaker 15: quick out route to the left, and then you got
- 52:54Speaker 15: to dig and then you got the check down. You
- 52:57Speaker 15: could say in his playbook, I'll bet you it says
- 53:01Speaker 15: take a peek Injigba is the go route up the sideline.
- 53:04Speaker 15: So for Collinsworth to say that that Barner's only number three,
- 53:09Speaker 15: that is removing the idea that Donald would what's the
- 53:13Speaker 15: point of my conversation. I would argue that it's more
- 53:17Speaker 15: the fourth receiver. And so here Donald goes left. He's
- 53:21Speaker 15: got a two man concept the outgo to his left Nope,
- 53:24Speaker 15: he's got a dig check down Texas. And by the way,
- 53:27Speaker 15: the angle again, the precision, the details barner. He checked
- 53:32Speaker 15: over the middle, but before he did that, he took
- 53:36Speaker 15: an angle towards the sideline and up the field as
- 53:40Speaker 15: if he was going to go to the flat, and
- 53:42Speaker 15: then he crosses back in. I call it a check Texas.
- 53:45Speaker 15: And you could just check him down with a defender
- 53:47Speaker 15: to be closer. But if you first fake to the
- 53:50Speaker 15: outside like you're going to flat and then check down
- 53:53Speaker 15: over the middle, you get a little bit more separation. Again,
- 53:56Speaker 15: precisions in the details. He gets eight yards on third
- 53:59Speaker 15: and three. He would have got four or five yards,
- 54:02Speaker 15: but every yard counts and it's all in the details.
- 54:06Speaker 15: But again Donald going to his fourth receiver on time.
- 54:09Speaker 15: Hel melanis with us Monday morning Quarterback.
- 54:12Speaker 8: If we are going into detail on Sam Donald's basically
- 54:15Speaker 8: historic night last night. He was sixteen for sixteen in
- 54:18Speaker 8: the first half, and we're going through his first ten
- 54:21Speaker 8: passes here and just how impressive he was, because they
- 54:24Speaker 8: were all just a little bit different in how impressive
- 54:27Speaker 8: that they were. At halftime, they were five for five
- 54:30Speaker 8: on third down, so it wasn't just completing to complete Hugh,
- 54:34Speaker 8: I mean third down and five from their twenty seven
- 54:37Speaker 8: you hook up with the walker for fourteen yards and
- 54:40Speaker 8: a first down. I mean he was also moving the
- 54:44Speaker 8: chains in all of this as well.
- 54:46Speaker 6: Yes, this was.
- 54:46Speaker 15: A cover zero, all out blitz. It's gonna be man
- 54:49Speaker 15: to man, but the safety's coming from depth. And really
- 54:53Speaker 15: there was no other receiver open. I mean we say
- 54:56Speaker 15: Jackson Smith is always open. Well, you know there's a
- 54:59Speaker 15: few times when he lines up outside and press coverage
- 55:02Speaker 15: where he doesn't win. And and and yet here again
- 55:05Speaker 15: Clint Kubiak, you've got a five out protection on him.
- 55:09Speaker 15: Heavy blitz there, you're blitzing six guys on an imp
- 55:12Speaker 15: on a on a five out protection. And and I
- 55:16Speaker 15: looked at it as an option, and it's.
- 55:19Speaker 6: Possible that it was. It was.
- 55:22Speaker 15: It was locked in as a what's called a Texas route,
- 55:24Speaker 15: which is the the inbreaking route. Either way, whether he
- 55:28Speaker 15: had the option or not, he broke to the inside,
- 55:30Speaker 15: which if he did have had the option, it was
- 55:32Speaker 15: the correct decision to go inside. And for for Donald's case,
- 55:38Speaker 15: here here it's a six man rush on a five
- 55:40Speaker 15: man protection. There is no who's who's twenty four for uh,
- 55:45Speaker 15: for the commander, Well, it's von Miller. Yeah, duh. So
- 55:49Speaker 15: von Miller is coming in on the a gap, unblocked,
- 55:53Speaker 15: total free runner. And so you credit Donald in this
- 55:56Speaker 15: case of just having the courage knowing that the there's
- 56:00Speaker 15: gonna be a guy totally unblocked. It's a Hall of
- 56:02Speaker 15: Famer coming in on you, and he was able to
- 56:05Speaker 15: you know, relatively easy completion other than you've got von
- 56:09Speaker 15: Miller bearing down on you totally unblocked. So hell of
- 56:12Speaker 15: a call. A covers zero beater and you get the
- 56:15Speaker 15: first down and by the way, you get fourteen yards
- 56:18Speaker 15: on third and five.
- 56:19Speaker 7: Yeah, and then they basically try to run one before
- 56:22Speaker 7: he ends up connecting with Horton on that first touchdown.
- 56:24Speaker 6: How nice was that?
- 56:26Speaker 13: Yeah?
- 56:26Speaker 15: Boot left with I don't know Clint Kobak like Boot Left.
- 56:29Speaker 15: He has more nakeds and boots to the left on
- 56:32Speaker 15: a right handed quarterback than he does to the right
- 56:34Speaker 15: thus far in the season. But I think the impressive
- 56:37Speaker 15: part of that you got the defensive end who didn't
- 56:39Speaker 15: bite on the on the play action. He's up the field,
- 56:41Speaker 15: so Darnold would like to stay on the move, but
- 56:44Speaker 15: now he's got to stop pull up with a defensive
- 56:47Speaker 15: end ninety six in his face. The flat is covered.
- 56:51Speaker 15: And if you look at when he hands separate and
- 56:54Speaker 15: he's going to throw this, you Tory Horton is not open.
- 56:59Speaker 15: He's got he's contacted. I mean, the defender could have
- 57:04Speaker 15: reached out and bear hugged him. There was no separation,
- 57:07Speaker 15: but he threw with anticipation.
- 57:08Speaker 6: Through it open. Unbelievable.
- 57:10Speaker 15: Probably in my mind, the most difficult play that he
- 57:14Speaker 15: had of the night was there was that touchdown pass
- 57:17Speaker 15: in terms of just degree of difficulty by NFL quarterback standards,
- 57:22Speaker 15: just how he backed up, the anticipation he had, the
- 57:25Speaker 15: spot that he put it in. I mean that there's
- 57:29Speaker 15: there's your porn right there. I mean that that things
- 57:31Speaker 15: are really getting rev up.
- 57:33Speaker 8: I know it when I see it all then yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 57:36Speaker 6: That was the Supreme Court justice in nineteen sixty three.
- 57:40Speaker 6: Can't describe it, but I know when I see it.
- 57:42Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, Well seven decency perpetrated in that end zone.
- 57:47Speaker 8: That was gorgeous. Seven to nothing at that point. Next possession.
- 57:52Speaker 8: Let's go back to back here. I mean there were
- 57:55Speaker 8: three plays apart, but back to back throws to JSN
- 57:59Speaker 8: seventeen yards cards and then a seven yard hookup. So
- 58:03Speaker 8: let's squish those two.
- 58:04Speaker 15: Yeah, the seven yard hookup was just a hits free access,
- 58:07Speaker 15: hits nothing there. The boot left over route for seventeen yards,
- 58:13Speaker 15: you would quarter, you would coach Darnold. Hey again, here
- 58:17Speaker 15: he is on a naked not to his right as
- 58:19Speaker 15: the right handed quarterback, but to his left. He had
- 58:21Speaker 15: Robbie Oots out there as a wing of a tight
- 58:25Speaker 15: end as it were, and he's just kind of blocking.
- 58:27Speaker 15: So but that brings extra defenders, so it's relatively congested.
- 58:31Speaker 15: He's got the flat that's covered, he's got Robbie Uts
- 58:35Speaker 15: blocking for him, so that there's just a lot of bodies.
- 58:37Speaker 15: So he says, well, let me find jaysn coming from
- 58:40Speaker 15: the backside on an intermediate crossing route. He hits him
- 58:44Speaker 15: on the dead run while he's on the left. He
- 58:47Speaker 15: hits a jig on the dead run seventeen yards. Made
- 58:51Speaker 15: it look like a laying in basketball.
- 58:53Speaker 6: Beautiful, yep.
- 58:54Speaker 7: And then he basically ends up finishing that drive off
- 58:57Speaker 7: with another twenty five yard striker, not another one, but
- 59:00Speaker 7: twenty five yard strike to Tory Horton.
- 59:02Speaker 6: Another great throw.
- 59:03Speaker 15: Okay, now I'm gonna use the term that is not ubiquitous.
- 59:06Speaker 15: If I say cover zero, every coach nois what I'm
- 59:09Speaker 15: talking about. I say, that's blitz mana man, no free safety.
- 59:12Speaker 15: If I say cover one, everybody knows what I'm talking about.
- 59:14Speaker 15: That's man man with a free safety. I'm gonna use
- 59:16Speaker 15: the term cover seven that I picked up somewhere along
- 59:18Speaker 15: the line of coach called it. Not everybody uses that term,
- 59:21Speaker 15: but everybody will describe it however they describe it. Cover
- 59:26Speaker 15: seven is man to man, but with a bracket against
- 59:29Speaker 15: one guy. So okay, So instead of having a free
- 59:32Speaker 15: safety in the middle, you're gonna take that safety and
- 59:34Speaker 15: say we're gonna put two on one and then everybody
- 59:37Speaker 15: else is just man and man. And in this case
- 59:40Speaker 15: they're bracketing JSN and so Sandra still the corner on
- 59:46Speaker 15: man a man that you've got to point a bunch
- 59:50Speaker 15: formation to Darnold's right, and you've got Tory Horton as
- 59:55Speaker 15: the point. There's three guys and the middle guy is
- 59:58Speaker 15: on the line of scrimage the other two about why
- 1:00:00Speaker 15: is that important? When you start talking about play construction,
- 1:00:04Speaker 15: you've got to be aware that defense is usually jam.
- 1:00:07Speaker 15: The point the middle guy who's on the line of scrimmage,
- 1:00:11Speaker 15: and so Horton he's got to have because he's on
- 1:00:14Speaker 15: the line, he's got to have a great release. He
- 1:00:17Speaker 15: takes an inside release against Sandrastill. Sandra's still Then when
- 1:00:21Speaker 15: you watch the ang zone copy, he jumps to the
- 1:00:23Speaker 15: inside because once Horton goes on an inside release, Sandra's
- 1:00:28Speaker 15: still the defender and man to man, you're telling Sandra's still, Hey,
- 1:00:32Speaker 15: it's cover seven. You don't have any safety help. So
- 1:00:35Speaker 15: Sandristelle once he says, okay, Horton just went in an
- 1:00:38Speaker 15: inside release on me. He's got to guard the intermediate
- 1:00:42Speaker 15: crossing route because he's got no safety help because the
- 1:00:44Speaker 15: safety is over there helping on Jackson Smith and jigback.
- 1:00:47Speaker 15: So Sandra still he cheats. He gets to the inside,
- 1:00:50Speaker 15: but no, here's here's Clint Kubiak. I'm not running him
- 1:00:53Speaker 15: on a deep over route. I'm running him back to
- 1:00:56Speaker 15: the corner. So Sandra still had to guess because he
- 1:00:58Speaker 15: has no safety help because Jackson Smith and jig was
- 1:01:01Speaker 15: on the field. They want to play man and man,
- 1:01:03Speaker 15: but they got a double Jackson Smith and Jigba we
- 1:01:05Speaker 15: take an inside release. Oh we think we're going an
- 1:01:07Speaker 15: inside breaking route. Nope, We're going an outside breaking route.
- 1:01:10Speaker 15: That's how you get that wide open app And there
- 1:01:13Speaker 15: was just a little bit of a nod to the inside. Beautiful,
- 1:01:16Speaker 15: not nothing to slow him down. But I would say
- 1:01:18Speaker 15: the route was absolutely a ten by the Ricky Horton.
- 1:01:23Speaker 6: But it's the construction.
- 1:01:24Speaker 15: It's all the elements that I'm talking about to create
- 1:01:26Speaker 15: a wide open, easy touchdown.
- 1:01:28Speaker 8: All right, And then that's fourteen and nothing. Then you
- 1:01:31Speaker 8: have the fumbled kick return. And so within nine seconds
- 1:01:35Speaker 8: the Seahawks threw two touchdown passes and opened up a
- 1:01:38Speaker 8: twenty one nothing lead over the Commanders. And at this point,
- 1:01:42Speaker 8: Darnold's just cocky because he had JSN wide open down
- 1:01:45Speaker 8: the right sidelines, Like, no, I'm gonna throw the more
- 1:01:47Speaker 8: difficult throw just to show you how awesome I am tonight.
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:01:50Speaker 15: Well, Jayson had a filthy, filthy and credit the broadcast,
- 1:01:53Speaker 15: they're really good. They showed it. It was literally open.
- 1:01:56Speaker 15: I watched the coaches tapement. I mean he's opened by
- 1:01:58Speaker 15: five yards. That's anonic aeration. I mean he put the
- 1:02:01Speaker 15: whoop to do, but the safety was cheating over to
- 1:02:05Speaker 15: his side. Now, this is man to man. This is
- 1:02:07Speaker 15: not the cover seven, but it's this free safety with
- 1:02:10Speaker 15: a hard sheet. And and so because he sees the
- 1:02:13Speaker 15: hard sheet and he's got Arroyo on a seam route,
- 1:02:18Speaker 15: you're you want to get a single safety. That call,
- 1:02:20Speaker 15: that play is called to get a single safety. And
- 1:02:23Speaker 15: and and if you're you're darnold, you just say, hey,
- 1:02:25Speaker 15: if you're in the middle of the if I can
- 1:02:27Speaker 15: get you off the middle field, I've I've got one
- 1:02:30Speaker 15: on one to the outside, uh or up the seam
- 1:02:33Speaker 15: rather to uh Arroyo or.
- 1:02:35Speaker 6: Number eighteen for Tyler Owens.
- 1:02:38Speaker 15: He he kind of he bites in a little too fast,
- 1:02:41Speaker 15: so he gets beat Arroyo's speed beats him up the seam.
- 1:02:45Speaker 15: And then the corner Latimore, there's a Tory Horton was
- 1:02:48Speaker 15: trying to hold the outside corner uh uh from from
- 1:02:52Speaker 15: falling back into the play.
- 1:02:53Speaker 6: This one.
- 1:02:54Speaker 15: I don't think this matters a lot, but this uh relevant.
- 1:02:58Speaker 15: But the team the seam route to the left, which
- 1:03:02Speaker 15: is what Darnald had on that play, was my favorite
- 1:03:05Speaker 15: play as a quarterback in my career. And because as
- 1:03:09Speaker 15: a right handed quarterback, you go one, two, three, four, five,
- 1:03:11Speaker 15: he hits your weight is all set up as you're
- 1:03:16Speaker 15: throwing to your left. There's a certain rhythm to how
- 1:03:20Speaker 15: you can throw it the way the receiver is running
- 1:03:23Speaker 15: away from you in your relative to your visions kind
- 1:03:26Speaker 15: of left to right, but it's going up the field,
- 1:03:29Speaker 15: and so the angle is easy to anticipate. It just fits,
- 1:03:32Speaker 15: it fits my eye. I'm not in Darnald's head. I
- 1:03:35Speaker 15: haven't asked him, is that your favorite route? But that
- 1:03:38Speaker 15: seam route to the left. He would even tell you
- 1:03:40Speaker 15: that that wasn't a perfect throw. He would have liked
- 1:03:43Speaker 15: to have thrown that two feet farther, but he won
- 1:03:45Speaker 15: by anticipation. And what you're trying to do is think
- 1:03:48Speaker 15: of a triangle I'm gonna get with the point in
- 1:03:51Speaker 15: front of you. You're trying to hit between three guys.
- 1:03:54Speaker 15: The guy who's running down the scene with him, that's
- 1:03:56Speaker 15: number eighteen. Then the free safety he represents a second
- 1:04:00Speaker 15: point of the triangle. But then the backside corner can
- 1:04:03Speaker 15: fall into the play too, So you got to you
- 1:04:05Speaker 15: gotta be aware of three guys that can make the play.
- 1:04:07Speaker 15: You're gonna stick it in between that triangle and laddermore
- 1:04:10Speaker 15: you discussed him, he makes a business decision. If I'm
- 1:04:14Speaker 15: coaching the commanders on defense, I say, dude, you got
- 1:04:18Speaker 15: to accelerate through that tight end at the half yard
- 1:04:21Speaker 15: line and try and dislodge the football. Latimore had a
- 1:04:24Speaker 15: chance to do that.
- 1:04:25Speaker 6: He took.
- 1:04:26Speaker 15: He made a business decision, he said, for Ricky Waters,
- 1:04:29Speaker 15: for what, for whom? And and just he just he
- 1:04:33Speaker 15: tapped out of the play and and so so a
- 1:04:37Speaker 15: slightly underthrown ball, but you win by anticipation. Love that
- 1:04:42Speaker 15: steam route to the left, got the corner, the free
- 1:04:45Speaker 15: safety going hard over to JSN for obvious reasons. That
- 1:04:48Speaker 15: opens a big window in Sam Darnold's eyes, and he
- 1:04:52Speaker 15: was able to get the touchdown out of it. And
- 1:04:54Speaker 15: at that point he's ten for ten and the Sea
- 1:04:56Speaker 15: oarks Are had twenty one to nothing and the game
- 1:04:59Speaker 15: is over. Is an exercise in getting the clock to
- 1:05:02Speaker 15: double zero at that point.
- 1:05:03Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, impressive display. Hu Millan is with us Monday
- 1:05:07Speaker 8: Morning Quarterback. We'll continue on the other side, talk about
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- 1:06:00Speaker 2: the Monday Morning Quarterback with Mike hom Grin and Hugh Millin.
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: Here's chucking buck.
- 1:06:06Speaker 8: Chuckling and peanut butter things we've established. Yeah, that's right.
- 1:06:11Speaker 8: Our cups runneth over at nine o'clock hour here on
- 1:06:14Speaker 8: this Monday morning. Yes, it's time for more Monday Morning Quarterback.
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: You.
- 1:06:17Speaker 8: Millon's been with us since eight o'clock. He'll continue with
- 1:06:20Speaker 8: us to break it down. A thirty eight to fourteen
- 1:06:23Speaker 8: win over the Washington Commanders last night on Sunday Night Football.
- 1:06:27Speaker 8: Joining the conversation now former Seahawks head coach, former Green
- 1:06:31Speaker 8: Bay Packers World Championship head coach Mike Holmgren is with
- 1:06:35Speaker 8: us right here on Chuck and Buck, come on a coach, Hey, good.
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: Morning, guys, Good morning. Did you just did you get
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: through Halloween? Okay?
- 1:06:42Speaker 8: Yeah, Bucky was just talking about how he really did
- 1:06:46Speaker 8: watch his figure this.
- 1:06:47Speaker 7: Entire No, Zach opposite, Yeah, I have crushed Halloween candy.
- 1:06:54Speaker 8: He watched his figure get a lot bigger. Yeah, man, Yeah,
- 1:06:58Speaker 8: it just depends on how you watch it.
- 1:06:59Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:07:00Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not turning in the right direction.
- 1:07:02Speaker 6: I'll tell you that.
- 1:07:04Speaker 8: Coach just goes, oh boy, yeah, all right, coach, Well look,
- 1:07:09Speaker 8: I mean you've been around some great quarterback play in
- 1:07:12Speaker 8: your life. Does it get any better than what we
- 1:07:15Speaker 8: saw from Sam Donald last night?
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: No? I mean he was spot on and the team was. No,
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: it was really something to behold. I think it sets
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: the tone really for the rest of the season because
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: he was he did a lot of things there. You know,
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: he he would go to his third read, he'd go
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: to it on time, throw it quick, very accurately. And No,
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: it was a performance really for the ages. I think.
- 1:07:44Speaker 15: So well, let's let's let's use that term for the ages.
- 1:07:48Speaker 15: Where does it rank for you? I mean, I got
- 1:07:50Speaker 15: a lot of friends texting me, is that the the
- 1:07:52Speaker 15: best half of quarterbacking in Seawk history? Is that the
- 1:07:57Speaker 15: best half they've ever seen? I mean, do you kind
- 1:08:01Speaker 15: of start reflecting on history.
- 1:08:04Speaker 6: In that regard?
- 1:08:05Speaker 15: Did it strike you as that type of performance or
- 1:08:07Speaker 15: was it just kind of well, you had had some
- 1:08:09Speaker 15: great numbers, but and maybe a few great plays, but
- 1:08:13Speaker 15: maybe not to the level of a historical sense. Where
- 1:08:17Speaker 15: are you on what you saw last night?
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: Well? I think it ranks that right up there, you
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: because you know, and you know this better than anybody.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: He completed like seven sixteen seventeen passes in a role.
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: I mean, even if you're having a good day and
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: a good night, that usually doesn't happen that way. You know.
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: The only comparison I would make an actual function was
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: Montana and the Super Bowl we played Denver. Yeah, and
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: you know he was and he still we still miss
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: some throws. I mean, you know, So now I will
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: say this, I was really disappointed in Washington's defense in
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: a lot of ways. In the secondary. For one, for sure,
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: they're tackling their effort. I just didn't think they were
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: very good and they and and but give the Sea credit.
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: They took advantage of it. But Mike Sam maybe not
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: for the ages, maybe not for the age ISU, but
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: he was he was really good last night.
- 1:09:14Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, Mike, I thought of quarterbacking and I tried,
- 1:09:18Speaker 15: like Hill to play it well and and it very
- 1:09:21Speaker 15: very seldom happened. It was usually the other way around.
- 1:09:24Speaker 15: But I've given a lot of thought. And uh, like
- 1:09:27Speaker 15: in college, you know, one hundred level classes or introduction
- 1:09:30Speaker 15: like psych one on one.
- 1:09:31Speaker 6: Okay, you're gonna get it introduced.
- 1:09:33Speaker 15: They're gonna tell you a sigma Freud and and then
- 1:09:35Speaker 15: that now if you happen to major in what Havevio
- 1:09:38Speaker 15: or even a grad school school, now you get into
- 1:09:41Speaker 15: two hundred, three hundred and four hundred. I think that
- 1:09:44Speaker 15: quarterbacking the five hundred level classes are anticipation and eye
- 1:09:50Speaker 15: manipulation of defenders. And I thought that there was so
- 1:09:55Speaker 15: much of that on display by by Darnold last night.
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:09:58Speaker 15: I mean, he was moving Bobby Wagner like he had
- 1:10:02Speaker 15: him on a string, and the other particularly the underneath
- 1:10:05Speaker 15: Mike undefenders, those inside underneath defenders, and he just he
- 1:10:09Speaker 15: knew like, hey, I put my eyes here, I put
- 1:10:11Speaker 15: my eyes there, and then I throw here, and then
- 1:10:13Speaker 15: always with anticipation. I thought he was five hundred level
- 1:10:16Speaker 15: quarterbacking in that regard.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: No, that's a good point view, and I would agree
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: with you. And I think, you know, you look at
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: his history first of all, and you know he had
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: some rough spots with the Jets and so on and
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: so forth, and then he hit it with Minnesota. But
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: he is he has learned, he has polished up what
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: it needs to be a great quarterback. And when you
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: see it, you see his eyes, You see him move
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: people around, you see him throw it on time, and
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: you're right, anticipation and movement with his eyes and moving
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: defenders around and understanding, understanding the principles of the route,
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: you know, and why they're doing a heck of a
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: job coaching him as well. It's really fun to watch coach.
- 1:11:03Speaker 7: I asked Hugh this in a way earlier in our
- 1:11:07Speaker 7: eight o'clock hour, But I want to get your perspective
- 1:11:10Speaker 7: from the coaching and setting these the Jimmy's and Joe's
- 1:11:13Speaker 7: up with the proper excess and those it does feel
- 1:11:16Speaker 7: like they're running a lot of the twelve personnel where
- 1:11:19Speaker 7: they're running heavier sets out there, and yet the idea
- 1:11:22Speaker 7: of they're still passing a lot off of it. I mean,
- 1:11:25Speaker 7: they're keeping guys honest. Is there something that you're seeing
- 1:11:28Speaker 7: as far as what Kubiak is doing that's setting Sam
- 1:11:31Speaker 7: up for the success that he's having so far halfway
- 1:11:34Speaker 7: through the season.
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: I think so, Buck, I think, what when I noticed
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: and you look at the numbers, you know, and Jigma
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: of course is off the charts, but they are involving
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: the tight end. The running backs catch a few balls.
- 1:11:47Speaker 6: Horton.
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: You know, who would have thought Horton would we talk
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: a lot about him, But he's looking really good to
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: me and Cupton in play and so give credit. I
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: give credit to the coaching staff. They those heavy sets,
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: you know, right away they talk so much about we
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: got to run the ball, we gotta do this, We're
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: gonna knock people around, and that's when people typically put
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: in those types of players. But then they pass it.
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: That's what I was hoping for. You first down, play action,
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: you know, make them think it's run and throw the ball.
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: And the numbers last night, you know, it was over
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: three hundred yards passing and not really a large number rushing,
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: but they got points that worked very, very well. So
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: I think it's a nice adjustment by the coaching staff.
- 1:12:38Speaker 6: Yeah yeah.
- 1:12:39Speaker 8: I mean they're still running the football, but they're still
- 1:12:41Speaker 8: not running it overly well. I mean the success that
- 1:12:44Speaker 8: you're seeing from Sam Darnold and the passing game is
- 1:12:47Speaker 8: just how good the passing game is right now, Coach
- 1:12:49Speaker 8: Holmgren with us here part of our Monday Morning Quarterback
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- 1:12:55Speaker 8: specialists and slab Jack. I want to talk about js.
- 1:12:59Speaker 6: And I remember a certain guy by the name.
- 1:13:02Speaker 8: Of Jerry Rice that I used to watch from home
- 1:13:05Speaker 8: in Illinois and think to myself, don't aren't aren't they
- 1:13:08Speaker 8: aware that he's on the team the other team? Why
- 1:13:11Speaker 8: is he open all the time? How is he how
- 1:13:14Speaker 8: do they not know to put like seven guys on him?
- 1:13:18Speaker 8: Jsin is starting to get that way with me, coach.
- 1:13:20Speaker 8: I mean, it feels like they can go to him
- 1:13:23Speaker 8: whenever they need a play and he's going to be
- 1:13:26Speaker 8: open and Sam's going to deliver the ball to him.
- 1:13:29Speaker 6: How does that even happen?
- 1:13:30Speaker 8: You tell me, because you're the guy that used to
- 1:13:32Speaker 8: get Jerry Rice open all the time.
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: Well, you know what, You you go into a game
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: when you have a receiver like that and anticipate certain
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: coverages that you're going to see for that player. In
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: which case, if it's if he's gloved, you know, you
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: throw at someplace else and you should get a completion.
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: But you still call his number. You know, I've told
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: you before I had I had Jerry Rice on my
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: play sheet. The only player I did it was Sterling Shop.
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: I did it was certain guys, but Jerry Rise his plays.
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: I had a list of just his plays, and I
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: wanted to get to those plays because he had the
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: ability and the smarts, okay, to do it correctly, to
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: find the open spot, to turn a zone passing scheme
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: into maybe a man passing scheme with an adjustment is
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: the route, And I think that's what we're seeing. But
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: to your point, Chuck, I don't get it either. If
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: I'm playing against him, you know I'm gonna knock him.
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: I'm gonna have I'm gonna hit him at the line
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Don't let him get because he's you you know,
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: there's not a lot of passes that he catches with
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: that that's in a crowd. He seems to like find
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: open spaces and then Sam's hitting him with it. So
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: it is a little bit of a puzzle. You you
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: watch the films, you study it like that, he looks
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: like he's just open all the time.
- 1:14:52Speaker 15: Well, he's he's certainly open in the middle of the field.
- 1:14:56Speaker 15: There's times where look the tape, I got up ruler
- 1:14:59Speaker 15: than morning. There there's a few times where he's lined
- 1:15:02Speaker 15: up as the widest receiver. It's press coverage and and
- 1:15:05Speaker 15: he he was gloved up pretty good on either a
- 1:15:08Speaker 15: go route or an out route or what have you.
- 1:15:11Speaker 15: So I know that Chuck wasn't being literal to say
- 1:15:15Speaker 15: he's always open. He what he really means is he's
- 1:15:18Speaker 15: almost always open. And that is absolutely true. But but Mike,
- 1:15:23Speaker 15: you know a couple of things. I know you had
- 1:15:25Speaker 15: Darryl Jackson in the backfield and and and other receivers
- 1:15:28Speaker 15: where you'd actually put him in as a halfback. And
- 1:15:32Speaker 15: you know, for me, I look and I say, wait, wait,
- 1:15:35Speaker 15: if you got your number one receiver in the run
- 1:15:38Speaker 15: in the backfield, how does you know? And I watched
- 1:15:41Speaker 15: Bobby Wagner how he defended here here JSN comes out
- 1:15:45Speaker 15: on an option route and the first time, and and
- 1:15:50Speaker 15: you would think I would I would think that Bobby
- 1:15:52Speaker 15: Wagner would know of anybody.
- 1:15:54Speaker 6: Oh, here comes the option route. They're in his own coverage.
- 1:15:57Speaker 15: You would think he'd squeeze as the as the hook
- 1:15:59Speaker 15: the you think he'd squeeze to the option route.
- 1:16:02Speaker 6: But he didn't. And see I got fourteen yards and
- 1:16:05Speaker 6: then man to man. Uh.
- 1:16:06Speaker 15: Clearly a four way break, Mike, you know, inside outside,
- 1:16:10Speaker 15: hook it up and zone or go vertical. If you
- 1:16:13Speaker 15: think you got him. Sam Darnold kind of pumped. He
- 1:16:15Speaker 15: thought he was going to the outside, but uh uh,
- 1:16:17Speaker 15: and Jigbo was taking it deep. He get twenty two yards.
- 1:16:20Speaker 15: It gets you a field goal right before the second quarter.
- 1:16:22Speaker 15: Two big completions to JSN out of the backfield as
- 1:16:26Speaker 15: the halfback.
- 1:16:27Speaker 6: Just talk to us about your thought.
- 1:16:29Speaker 15: About that when you've done that in the past, what
- 1:16:32Speaker 15: you're expecting and and and certainly we saw some some
- 1:16:35Speaker 15: yield out of that last night.
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: Well, if you if you kind of can't anticipate maybe
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: what kind of coverage you're going to see, and you
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: have a player like in Jigomunt or a Darryl Jackson
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: or a Stirling Shark like I had put him in
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: the backfield. You you know, you got he he should win.
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: That a good even if the even if the linebacker
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: is really good and all that you have him. There's
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: a lot of ways to go on those option routes,
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: and it's a pretty good concept. But to your point,
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: if he's lined up there the defense, they should be
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: yelling to each other. It's an option, you know, they
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: should be alerting each other to the potential for that
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: type of route. But he was, he was open. I mean,
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: they didn't do that. And and and dan quint listen,
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: I think the world of him, and he's a defensive guy.
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: But their defense last night. Give the Sea Ops credit.
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: But there Washington's defense last night wasn't there. It wasn't there.
- 1:17:34Speaker 7: Yeah, coach, I mean it seems you I look at
- 1:17:37Speaker 7: different numbers and try to get information so I can
- 1:17:39Speaker 7: ask you guys semi decent questions from time to time,
- 1:17:43Speaker 7: and yet it didn't work.
- 1:17:45Speaker 6: No, it's not working. Yeah, Well, I got more things
- 1:17:48Speaker 6: to look at.
- 1:17:49Speaker 7: There's billions of websites and I'm bound to stumble upon
- 1:17:52Speaker 7: one that gives me a good question. But I mean,
- 1:17:54Speaker 7: just looking at some of the PFF numbers. I mean,
- 1:17:57Speaker 7: he is pretty much lights out across the middle, short
- 1:18:00Speaker 7: stuff across the middle. I know that there's complaints around
- 1:18:03Speaker 7: here for a long time with Russell that maybe you
- 1:18:05Speaker 7: couldn't see that area or whatever it was. Is there
- 1:18:08Speaker 7: anything in particular that allows him to be as successful
- 1:18:13Speaker 7: as he is, because there's a couple third downs while
- 1:18:15Speaker 7: he was in the middle of that sixteen for sixteen
- 1:18:17Speaker 7: streak that he just you know, hooked up with Aj
- 1:18:20Speaker 7: Barner I know was one of them. There was one
- 1:18:23Speaker 7: I think ken Walker coming out of the backfield where
- 1:18:25Speaker 7: he just sees it well or reads it well or
- 1:18:27Speaker 7: is it scheme oriented, because it does seem like those
- 1:18:30Speaker 7: are just kind of quick, you know, dump off passes,
- 1:18:32Speaker 7: but they end up turning into some decent yards after catch.
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's the thing that impresses
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: me too. Lucky. I think he he understands the US
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: playing anticipates, he understands what the route is, where your
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: guys are. You know, I've said it, I've said it
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: many times that you have a pre snap read. Okay,
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: this is what the coverage I think they're in. This
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: is my progression one, two, three, four, five, whatever it is.
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: Now take one step away from the center and move.
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: So it's not the coverage you thought it was going
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: to be, but it's this coverage and it changes your progression.
- 1:19:09Speaker 6: Now.
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: That takes some time in a system to learn that
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: and be efficient in that. But I see him doing that,
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: and you know, being with Qubiac before, maybe being a
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: little familiar with the system, but that takes experience, and
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: he's he's just in that zone right now where he's
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: making those decisions, you know, based on what he sees,
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: and he's really smart, and he's delivering the ball in time,
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: and he's very accurate with his passes.
- 1:19:38Speaker 8: I'll say, Mike hombriand Hugh Millan with us, who you
- 1:19:40Speaker 8: are Monday morning quarterbacking after last night's thirty eight fourteen
- 1:19:44Speaker 8: blowout when in DC against the Washington Commanders, And I
- 1:19:49Speaker 8: do need to ask you about you brought up Dan
- 1:19:52Speaker 8: Quinn the decision to keep Jade and Daniels in at
- 1:19:56Speaker 8: the end of the game. I didn't think it was
- 1:19:59Speaker 8: all that big of a deal, coach, but this morning,
- 1:20:02Speaker 8: a lot of people, Commanders, fans, a lot of analysts
- 1:20:06Speaker 8: believe that he should have never been in and exposed
- 1:20:08Speaker 8: to injury there at the end of the game. How
- 1:20:11Speaker 8: would you have handled the blowout loss and whether or
- 1:20:15Speaker 8: not Jayden Daniels should be playing with eight minutes left
- 1:20:18Speaker 8: in the fourth quarter.
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I would have taken him out. I
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: have done that. I did that. I did that with
- 1:20:24Speaker 1: hassleback against the Steelers one year. You know, we weren't
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: getting anywhere and I just we couldn't protect very well
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: that particular day, and I said, I pulled him out. Now,
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: he was a little upset, you know, as you can imagine,
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: but I said, listen, I'm doing this for your own good.
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: Just take it easy to get out of here, you know.
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: And so I've done that, and I would. You know,
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: it always comes back to haunt you when the kid
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: gets hurt. And he got hurt, I mean, and so
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: and he they need him, They need that player at
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: quarterback to have a chance. And so I understand why
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: people would the fans of the of the team would
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: would be upset with that because he could have taken
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: him out.
- 1:21:07Speaker 15: Yeah, so he Mike, he could have taken him out.
- 1:21:11Speaker 15: Would you take your critique to rise it to the
- 1:21:16Speaker 15: level that you think that that was some type of
- 1:21:19Speaker 15: egregious mistake by dan Quinn. And and I don't want
- 1:21:23Speaker 15: to repeat all the numbers, but in the prior hour,
- 1:21:26Speaker 15: just just in the last five years, in situations like
- 1:21:31Speaker 15: what we saw last night, under eight minutes, a deficit
- 1:21:34Speaker 15: of thirty one or more points, I got twenty nine
- 1:21:37Speaker 15: starters that took at least one pass attempt. There's some
- 1:21:42Speaker 15: of the luminaries of the game, including Tom Brady and
- 1:21:45Speaker 15: Ben Roethlisberger and Jared Goff and many other Pro Bowls guys,
- 1:21:50Speaker 15: where other coaches have had their guys, you know, ostensibly
- 1:21:55Speaker 15: in the game to try and get some continuity. We
- 1:21:58Speaker 15: know it's a blowout, but let's make let's maybe get
- 1:22:00Speaker 15: a touchdown or get something going at the end of
- 1:22:03Speaker 15: the game so we feel a little better about ourselves.
- 1:22:07Speaker 15: And so there's many, many, you know, dozens of examples
- 1:22:11Speaker 15: where other coaches have done that. So while you would
- 1:22:13Speaker 15: not have done that, would again your critique lie at
- 1:22:16Speaker 15: rise of the level. No, dan Quinn made a big mistake.
- 1:22:20Speaker 15: That quarterback should have never been in that game. Where
- 1:22:22Speaker 15: are you in that regard?
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: Well, I'm not to the end of that that's strong,
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: but I would have taken him out. I would have
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: taken him out. But you know, I mean, every coach
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: has to make that decision. And you bring up a
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: good point if they could get something going then on money,
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: you say, okay, we can do this, but we played
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: a lousy first half, but this is how we can
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I guess you could make that point
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: on Monday. But when you lose the player, Believe me,
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: he's going to be thinking about it. Dan's going to
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: be thinking about it, now, what should I have done?
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: And you know he might in the press conference where
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: you know, we wanted to do with the things you mentioned,
- 1:23:02Speaker 1: get some continuity, But down deep inside, he's gone boylast
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: year taking him.
- 1:23:07Speaker 7: Out, Yeah, I mean, I guess in hindsight it definitely
- 1:23:11Speaker 7: he's he's wishing that he had at this point too,
- 1:23:14Speaker 7: I am. When you're watching this, I mean, that game
- 1:23:17Speaker 7: was impressive, the way in which Bang Bang Bang. I mean,
- 1:23:20Speaker 7: the offense just went down the field and opened up
- 1:23:24Speaker 7: a really big lead, and yet the defense it was
- 1:23:27Speaker 7: a can of whoop boss.
- 1:23:28Speaker 6: They opened it right up.
- 1:23:29Speaker 7: I mean, but the defense also was kind of stifling,
- 1:23:32Speaker 7: and it did look like they had Jayden Daniels kind
- 1:23:35Speaker 7: of guessing what was going on coverage wise. I mean,
- 1:23:38Speaker 7: are you at this point, about the halfway point in
- 1:23:40Speaker 7: the season, is impressed with Mike McDonald and what he's
- 1:23:43Speaker 7: doing on the defensive side as much as you are
- 1:23:45Speaker 7: the offense right now, you.
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: Know, But he's doing a great job hockey and that's
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: that's his deal. I mean, he's the head coach, but
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: he's also the defensive in essence, the defensive coordinates his defense.
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: They are playing lights and they've had injuries. They're playing
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: with different guys in the secondary now and they're stepping
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: up and making plays, but they're front and the different
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: looks that that they're giving the opponent, uh, and the
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: effort and that the intensity. It's it's give give Mike
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: a lot of credit. Give this defense in there. I
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: think they're getting better. It's it's impressive to me. Now
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: there's a couple of tests that are gonna come up
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: to rams, you know, a better football team. You got
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: to play the forty nine ers again. But I was
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: looking at the schedule and I'm I'm checking off things
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: that I think, yeah, they should win this one, they shouldn't,
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: and it's looking pretty good. For them.
- 1:24:36Speaker 8: Yeah, It's it's as if having a quarterback go perfect
- 1:24:40Speaker 8: in the first half of four touchdown passes and scoring
- 1:24:42Speaker 8: two touchdowns thanks to a fumbled kick return in nine
- 1:24:45Speaker 8: seconds are beneficial to victory. It's that's what I'm gathering
- 1:24:50Speaker 8: from this meeting of minds here, my Hugh Millon, Mike
- 1:24:56Speaker 8: Holm grin with us. It's Monday Morning Quarterback, and we
- 1:24:59Speaker 8: got a lot more to discuss. I want to get
- 1:25:01Speaker 8: Hugh's thoughts on and coaches on Nick even Worri as well.
- 1:25:05Speaker 8: We haven't even discussed him with our experts here this morning.
- 1:25:09Speaker 6: A lot of other ground to cover.
- 1:25:10Speaker 8: Will continue with Monday Morning Quarterback next on Sports Radio
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