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Have No Fear: Seven Astonishing Onboard UFO Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining me for a new episode of UFOs in
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  Speaker 1: the Paranormal. Today, I'm going to be talking about what
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  Speaker 1: I think is the most interesting type of UFO encounter.
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  Speaker 1: It's certainly the most extensive, and that is, of course,
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  Speaker 1: on board UFO experiences. The title of today's episode is
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  Speaker 1: Have No Fear. Seven Astonishing on board UFO encounters. I
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  Speaker 1: think these cases are really important. They certainly represent the
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  Speaker 1: cutting edge of UFO research. They have the most information,
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  Speaker 1: more than any other type of encounter, perhaps except UFO
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  Speaker 1: crash retrievals. But in these cases people get to interact
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  Speaker 1: directly with the ets. And I've said this before, but
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  Speaker 1: it bears repeating. These are the kinds of cases that
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  Speaker 1: hold the most potential to answer the many questions surrounding
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  Speaker 1: extraterrestrial contact, such as who are these visitors to our planet?
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  Speaker 1: Where do they come from? And why are they here?
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  Speaker 1: So I've chosen seven cases for you today. Probably you
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  Speaker 1: haven't heard of most of these. I do like digging
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  Speaker 1: up those more obscure cases, and the seven cases I've
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  Speaker 1: chosen for you today come from all over the world,
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  Speaker 1: including England, Australia, Iran, Russia, Brazil, and two from the
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  Speaker 1: United States, including Arizona and Maine. These do involve quite
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  Speaker 1: a variety of et types, some really good evidence to
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  Speaker 1: support some of these encounters. Some are multiple witness Only
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  Speaker 1: two of them involve the use of hypnosis, so these
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  Speaker 1: are largely consciously recalled, which I think is important because
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  Speaker 1: any excuses of false memory syndrome can be easily laid
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  Speaker 1: to rest. Many of people absolutely remember their encounters fully consciously,
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  Speaker 1: and even the two involving hypnosis both recalled seeing humanoids.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, hypnosis does not explain these encounters by any means.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, some really interesting and fascinating cases. I love
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  Speaker 1: talking about on board encounters. I find them again endlessly fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just get started with our first case, which
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  Speaker 1: I call the onboard UFO encounter of Albert Lancashire. This
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  Speaker 1: is quite an early case. It took place in September
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  Speaker 1: of nineteen forty two in newbegin By the Sea, England,
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  Speaker 1: and this is an astonishing case because it does involve
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  Speaker 1: a military officer. He did not recall his encounter at first.
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  Speaker 1: It came back in dreams and flashbacks sometime after his encounter.
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  Speaker 1: But it's certainly an interesting and important case, if only
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  Speaker 1: because it's one of the earliest, and in fact it
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  Speaker 1: has been called the earliest onboard UFO count her in
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  Speaker 1: the UK, so that alone makes it significant. This case
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  Speaker 1: comes from pioneering English researchers Lionel Beer, Jenny Randalls and
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  Speaker 1: several others. It's appeared in several journals and books. It
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  Speaker 1: was a cold evening in September of nineteen forty two.
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  Speaker 1: This is the middle of World War II, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: as Albert Lancashire, a twenty seven year old Army sentry guard,
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  Speaker 1: stood in his guard booth guarding a secret radar base
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  Speaker 1: located about two miles from Newbiggin by the Sea in England.
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  Speaker 1: This is at the Creswell radar site. He was armed
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  Speaker 1: with a loaded rifle and bayonet, but had been given
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  Speaker 1: explicit orders not to fire at any enemy aircraft as
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  Speaker 1: this would give away the location of the secret base. Suddenly,
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  Speaker 1: an unidentified yellow light appeared low on the horizon over
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  Speaker 1: the ocean, just about three hundred and fifty feet away.
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  Speaker 1: He stepped out of his booth and kept his eye
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  Speaker 1: on it. When it became obscured by a dark cloud.
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  Speaker 1: Moments later it or another light appeared, and this time
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  Speaker 1: it was moving even closer. So he thought to himself,
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  Speaker 1: what have the Germans invented? Now? He's not thinking UFOs.
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  Speaker 1: UFOs are the farthest thing from his mind. He's never
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  Speaker 1: heard of him. UFOs is a subject that hadn't made
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  Speaker 1: its appearance in the public consciousness quite yet. So as
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  Speaker 1: this thing approached, he saw that it wasn't just a light.
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  Speaker 1: It was a strange round craft of some kind. The
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  Speaker 1: light was coming from the rim of this craft. Now,
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  Speaker 1: concerned that whoever was piloting this craft might see him,
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  Speaker 1: he stepped back into his sentry box. The craft then
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  Speaker 1: moved closer and lower, and this is weird. Albert now
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  Speaker 1: felt strangely compelled to step outside the guard booth. And
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  Speaker 1: no sooner had he stepped out when this object sent
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  Speaker 1: down a beam of light about a foot wide onto
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  Speaker 1: the ground, and before he could react, it swept towards
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  Speaker 1: him and struck him in the face. He automatically threw
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  Speaker 1: his hands up towards his face to protect himself, and
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  Speaker 1: as he says, I don't remember putting my rifle down,
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  Speaker 1: but I must have because it was loaded and had
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  Speaker 1: a bayonet attached. I didn't use the rifle because we
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  Speaker 1: weren't allowed to. I just put my hands up so
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  Speaker 1: as this light hid him. Albert says he felt a
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  Speaker 1: strange floating sensation, and then he promptly blacked out. After
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  Speaker 1: an undetermined period of time, he woke up to find
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  Speaker 1: himself lying on the ground several feet from where he
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  Speaker 1: had been standing. He was pretty dazed and disoriented, and
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  Speaker 1: as Albert says, I lay there for five or ten minutes.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what had happened. Again, he'd never heard
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  Speaker 1: of UFOs, flying saucers, or missing time, so he really
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  Speaker 1: had no way of interpreting what he had just experienced.
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  Speaker 1: He did have the distinct sense that this was not natural,
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  Speaker 1: This object was not of this world, and for some
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  Speaker 1: time afterwards he wondered if this might have been a
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  Speaker 1: kind of religious experience. He does say that sometime after
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  Speaker 1: this he did develop an unexplained rash on his tongue,
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  Speaker 1: and he would later wonder if it had something to
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  Speaker 1: do with this encounter. But over the next few years
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  Speaker 1: he started having dreams about this incident. In one dream,
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  Speaker 1: he found himself inside a strange craft looking out a
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  Speaker 1: large window down at the ocean, while a man dressed
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  Speaker 1: in a white uniform informed him that he had had
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  Speaker 1: to carry him into the ship. In a second dream,
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  Speaker 1: he remembered that he was on the ship again, where
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  Speaker 1: he met a woman with red hair wearing a short skirt,
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  Speaker 1: and she handed him a pair of goggles. So these
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  Speaker 1: were just dreams, but he connected it to this experience.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty five years passed, and this is when he experienced
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  Speaker 1: a series of unusual paranormal events which somehow triggered his
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  Speaker 1: memory of being taken on board this craft all those
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  Speaker 1: years ago. This began in nineteen sixty seven. He was
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  Speaker 1: laying in bed one evening when he noticed a tiny
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  Speaker 1: pinpoint of light over the bedroom door. It quickly became
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  Speaker 1: brighter and larger and coalesced into the image of a
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  Speaker 1: man's head and face. This head had black hair, the
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  Speaker 1: face had high cheekbones a thin beard. The face was
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  Speaker 1: tilted upwards and was immobile, though the eyes did move
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  Speaker 1: continuously from side to side, and after just a few
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  Speaker 1: minutes it faded away and was gone. Needless to say,
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  Speaker 1: he found this very puzzling, but shortly after that something
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  Speaker 1: else happened. He was on duty at his job. He
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  Speaker 1: was now working as a signal man for the British
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  Speaker 1: rail and he was in his signal box in the
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  Speaker 1: evening when he suddenly felt a presence, and suddenly a
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  Speaker 1: brilliant light appeared just a few feet from him. He
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  Speaker 1: said it was so bright it hurt his eyes to
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  Speaker 1: stared directly at it, but seeing how strange it was,
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't help but stare, and then coalescing out of
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  Speaker 1: this light, he saw the head and shoulders of a man,
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  Speaker 1: which he said looked like a statue carved out of
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  Speaker 1: white marble. There was no real detail to it other
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  Speaker 1: than a black line across the top of the head,
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  Speaker 1: and this image faded quickly away back into the light,
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  Speaker 1: and a few minutes later the light itself faded out.
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  Speaker 1: So this was weird and events were still in progress,
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  Speaker 1: because that same month, again while at work in the
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  Speaker 1: signal box, he saw a dark colored object with little
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  Speaker 1: red lights splinking on and off, and it was hovering
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  Speaker 1: in the sky about three hundred feet away. It slowly
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  Speaker 1: lowered down to about eye level, at which point he
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  Speaker 1: waved his arm at it, and the object promptly stopped.
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  Speaker 1: The red lights went out, and Albert could now see
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  Speaker 1: that it was in fact a dome shaped craft. It
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  Speaker 1: immediately darted off terrific speed, he said. And something else happened.
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  Speaker 1: Just a few days later, again at work in his
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  Speaker 1: signal box, he noticed a section of one of the
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  Speaker 1: walls glowing briefly with an unexplained green light. So all
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  Speaker 1: these weird things were going on, and one year later
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  Speaker 1: there was another apparent UFO sighting. In December of nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty eight, he was in his signal booth again when
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  Speaker 1: the signalman in the next booth down the way phoned
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  Speaker 1: him to alert him to the presence of a bright
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  Speaker 1: glowing object hovering near the chimney of a large mill
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  Speaker 1: in that area. They could both see it, and this
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  Speaker 1: object was circling around this chimney. They both watched it
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  Speaker 1: for just a few minutes when it slowly moved away
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  Speaker 1: in a zigzagging movement and then darted away at super
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  Speaker 1: high speed in a straight line. And while all this
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  Speaker 1: was going on, Albert started having some episodes of esp
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  Speaker 1: So somehow these weird events broke down the walls of
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  Speaker 1: amnesia surrounding his missing time encounter twenty five years earlier,
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen forty two, Albert now recalled that when this
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  Speaker 1: object had approached his guard booth all those years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and he felt compelled to step out, and was struck
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  Speaker 1: by that beam of light, and he felt this floating sensation.
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  Speaker 1: He hadn't actually passed out. Instead, he recalled that he
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  Speaker 1: was drawn up into the air by this beam of light.
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  Speaker 1: He said it felt as if he was walking quote
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  Speaker 1: along the beam. Suddenly he was seized by what he
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  Speaker 1: described as pigmy sized men. He said they were wearing
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  Speaker 1: white suits, and they carried him on board this craft.
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  Speaker 1: Inside he was met by a man with dark hair
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  Speaker 1: who seemed to be wearing some kind of dark goggles.
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  Speaker 1: Albert was made to lie down on a table or
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  Speaker 1: a couch, and looking up, he could see a blue
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  Speaker 1: domed ceiling. Next to him, he saw another table, another
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  Speaker 1: exam table, with an Asian looking woman lying on it.
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  Speaker 1: He saw a man wearing what looked like to him
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  Speaker 1: a doctor's skull cap, leaning over that table. He also
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  Speaker 1: wore goggles. This man turned and smiled at him in
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  Speaker 1: a welcoming way. Albert himself has vague recollections of being
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  Speaker 1: given goggles to put on his eyes and being physically
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  Speaker 1: examined by a figure wearing some kind of surgical mask.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, his memory fades and all he recalls
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  Speaker 1: is waking up on the ground next to his booth.
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  Speaker 1: He did have the sense that the UFO occupants had
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  Speaker 1: encouraged him to think of this experience as a dream
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  Speaker 1: or in some way eraised his memories from his conscious mind.
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  Speaker 1: But remembering all of this, he does wonder if his
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  Speaker 1: chronic tongue rash was somehow related to this experience. So
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  Speaker 1: again he waited years. He waited until he was in
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  Speaker 1: his seventies to report this experience to US researchers, and
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  Speaker 1: he only did so after hearing about the Betty and
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  Speaker 1: Barney Hill case and hearing about UFOs. And again his
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  Speaker 1: case is often cited as England's first onboard UFO encounter.
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  Speaker 1: One of the researchers who interviewed him, Eric Richards, says,
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  Speaker 1: this mister Lancashire is by no means a crank. He
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely sincere and clearly believes all he has told me.
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  Speaker 1: He is, in himself definitely sure that they had him
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  Speaker 1: in that UFO in nineteen forty two and did something
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  Speaker 1: to him. I would say he is above average intelligence.
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  Speaker 1: It is my opinion he has had genuine experiences. An
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  Speaker 1: incredible case I think by anyone's measurement, and it was
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  Speaker 1: investigated thoroughly. It's clear this gentleman is not seeking any publicity.
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  Speaker 1: He kept his encounter a secret for decades, and yet
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  Speaker 1: it does show many of the patterns we see with
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  Speaker 1: ET contact. Particularly interesting to me is the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he had quite a bit of paranormal and psychic events,
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  Speaker 1: So this is something we see a lot with UFO
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  Speaker 1: contact ees. It's a really amazing case, and so is
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  Speaker 1: this next one. I call this next case the onboard
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  Speaker 1: UFO encounter of Pamela Wimmer. That is a pseudonym. I
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  Speaker 1: interviewed this lady personally for my book Humanoids and High Strangeness.
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  Speaker 1: Her case, I think is quite important for a number
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  Speaker 1: of reasons, and it's super interesting also because she remembered
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  Speaker 1: it fully consciously and was able to have a conversation
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  Speaker 1: with the ETS. The events that happened to her on
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  Speaker 1: board are often reported, yet it's really amazing how clearly
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  Speaker 1: she recalled all of this, and like many people, this
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a one off. She had experiences throughout her life.
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  Speaker 1: And also she has good evidence that this is an
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  Speaker 1: experience that is generational as well, another important pattern. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a really interesting case in a number of ways. Pamela
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  Speaker 1: whimmers encounter is one of several on board uphone counters
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  Speaker 1: I present in my book Humanoids in High Strangeness. And
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  Speaker 1: again she's elected to remain anonymous, So I've used this
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  Speaker 1: pseudonym of Pamela Wimmer. Like most contactees, she's had a
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  Speaker 1: lifetime of ufhone counters, and she was reminded of this
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  Speaker 1: one morning in nineteen seventy five. At that time, she
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  Speaker 1: was twenty two years old, she had a two year
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  Speaker 1: old son and was living in Dresden, Maine. This is
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  Speaker 1: a tiny little town. Her child was outside in the
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  Speaker 1: front yard playing with her six year old cousin beneath
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  Speaker 1: an old oak tree. Suddenly, Pamela and her brother in law,
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  Speaker 1: who was in the house heard the children screaming. Together,
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  Speaker 1: they rushed outside and couldn't believe what they saw. There
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  Speaker 1: was a massive craft, two hundred feet wide, saucer shaped,
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  Speaker 1: hovering about forty feet above this oak tree. It was
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  Speaker 1: shiny silver and had a dome with about twenty portholes
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  Speaker 1: and beautiful bright colored lights blinking around the rim. They
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  Speaker 1: said there were red, blue, green, and yellow. It was
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  Speaker 1: perfectly silent, and it was tilted at an angle. It
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  Speaker 1: looked to Pamela like it was tilted so it could
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  Speaker 1: view the children more clearly. And as Pamela says, I
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  Speaker 1: was scared to death, so she ran for her children.
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  Speaker 1: They ran towards her. Together, they rushed back to the
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  Speaker 1: porch and watched this craft for about ten minutes when
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  Speaker 1: it suddenly started to spin quickly, so quickly the colored
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  Speaker 1: lights blurred together, and then it darted away at lightning speed.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone talked excitedly about it, but all Pamela could think
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  Speaker 1: was not again. Her mind instantly went back to her
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  Speaker 1: first sitting. In nineteen sixty three, when she was only
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  Speaker 1: ten years old. She and her best friend were riding
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  Speaker 1: their bikes home one afternoon. Their home was about two
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  Speaker 1: miles away, and this is when they both saw a giant,
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  Speaker 1: grayish cigar shaped craft moving just a few hundred feet high,
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  Speaker 1: directly over the nearby Eastern River. They were frightened by
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  Speaker 1: its unusual appearance. They could not identify it, so they
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  Speaker 1: rode their bikes furiously home and became even more concerned
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  Speaker 1: when they saw that this craft was following them. It
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  Speaker 1: took him almost a half an hour to get home,
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  Speaker 1: so they rushed inside and they dragged out Pamela's father
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  Speaker 1: and he watched it with them for just a few
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  Speaker 1: moments when it moved off at a slow pace down
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  Speaker 1: the river. So Pamela turned to her dad and said,
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  Speaker 1: what was that and her father replied, almost casually, I
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  Speaker 1: think it was a UFO. Now, Pamela had always believed
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  Speaker 1: in UFOs because her father, an Air Force officer, had
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  Speaker 1: seen them before and talked about it, and her mother
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  Speaker 1: had also had encounters. The weird thing to Pamela was
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  Speaker 1: this object had followed her home, so she wondered was
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  Speaker 1: it interested in her for some reason? And four years
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  Speaker 1: later she got her answer and the answer was yes.
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  Speaker 1: It was now the summer of nineteen sixty seven, Pamela
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  Speaker 1: was fourteen years old. She had gone to bed as normal,
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  Speaker 1: and sometime in the early morning hours she woke up
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  Speaker 1: with a start. An eerie, heavy silence hung over the house.
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  Speaker 1: Something weird was going on. She didn't see anything at first.
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  Speaker 1: She sat up in bed just in time to see
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  Speaker 1: movement on the wall near her bed and coming directly
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  Speaker 1: through the wall were three of what she described as
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  Speaker 1: the weirdest looking people she had ever seen. They were
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  Speaker 1: very short, three or four feet tall. They had huge
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  Speaker 1: bald heads, large black glistening eyes, no visible ears, a
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  Speaker 1: small mouth, very small nose, pale white skin. They were
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  Speaker 1: wearing light colored skin tight uniforms with a wide belt,
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  Speaker 1: and they moved right up to her bedside. She now,
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  Speaker 1: in hindsight recognizes them as gray type ets, but at
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  Speaker 1: the time she had no idea who these beings were.
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  Speaker 1: One stood in front of her while the other two
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  Speaker 1: gripped her arms and began to pull her from her bed.
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  Speaker 1: She became very frightened and resisted, and they immediately spoke
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  Speaker 1: to her telepathically in her mind, saying, don't be scared.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to be afraid. But Pamela was still
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  Speaker 1: frightened and asked them where are you taking me? And
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  Speaker 1: she tried to pull away from them. They told her
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  Speaker 1: don't do that, stay calm, Everything will be fine, we
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  Speaker 1: won't hurt you. Be calm. Despite their continued assurances, the
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  Speaker 1: being's unusual appearance left Pamela quite scared, as she says,
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  Speaker 1: I never knew anything about gray's. I didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: it was. It could have been the Devil, for all
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  Speaker 1: I knew. I had never seen anything like it. I
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  Speaker 1: never knew there was a creature out there that looked
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  Speaker 1: like that. I tried to resist. They had a hold
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  Speaker 1: of my arms and they took me through the wall.
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  Speaker 1: So when that happened, she felt this weird, buzzing feeling,
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  Speaker 1: and to her amazement, they took her outside to her
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  Speaker 1: front yard and there was a saucer shaped craft sitting
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the road right in front of
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  Speaker 1: her house. There was a small ramp leading up to
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  Speaker 1: an opening, and they quickly walked her up the ramp.
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  Speaker 1: She asked them, why are you taking me, and they
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  Speaker 1: just replied, be calm, You don't need to be afraid.
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  Speaker 1: Calm down, and they repeated this over and over as
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  Speaker 1: they took her into the craft. Kamala found herself inside
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  Speaker 1: a large round room. She said it was brightly lit,
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  Speaker 1: though she couldn't see any light source. It was as
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  Speaker 1: if the entire room glowed. She said. It was slightly
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  Speaker 1: cooler inside than outside, said the walls were a dull
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  Speaker 1: silver gray. In the center of the room, she noticed
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  Speaker 1: there was a thick column molded into the floor and
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  Speaker 1: the ceiling the There were no seams anywhere in this room.
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  Speaker 1: On the far side of the room there was a
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  Speaker 1: small metal table with a slight lip around the edge
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  Speaker 1: was sitting on a single pedestal, again with no seams.
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  Speaker 1: It was as if it was part of the craft itself.
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  Speaker 1: And also she saw a row of about a half
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  Speaker 1: dozen gray beings or more staring at her, observing quietly.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: She had the feeling that they were there to learn
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: about her. At this point, her memory grows a little
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: bit hazy. She believes they took her to the table,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: put her down on the table, and gave her an examination.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: She doesn't really remember that in any clear detail. What
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: she remembers next is that they gave her a kind
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: of tour of the craft. One of the grays took
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: her to the curved wall of the craft and showed
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: her what looked to her like glowing star maps, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: she asked them, is that where you're from? And the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: being replied that they were from a certain star system
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and actually gave her the name Pamela didn't understand the words,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: so she can't repeat it, but she kind of nodded anyway.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: As if she understood, and then the Grays told her,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you can come with us if you want to. This
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: kind of frightened Pamela. She didn't really want to go
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: with them, and she told them, no, I want to
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: go back home. I want to go home. I don't
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: want to go with you, and they told her again,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: don't be afraid. You don't have to be scared. They
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: repeated this over and over, but this did little to
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: assure her, because all she wanted was to get out
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: of there and go home, but the Grays kept repeating holm, down, home, down,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: We're not going to hurt you. One of the Grays
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: then led her over to a porthole and said you
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: can look outside if you want to. Pamela did, and
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: she was absolutely amazed at what she saw. There was
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: this bright field of sparkling stars, and far below her
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: was the Earth. As Pamela says, I could see another
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: UFO and stars. I was thinking where am I and
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I could see the Earth down below and that really
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: scared me because I am up in a spacecraft. That's
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: when it really scared me to see how high up
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I was in the air. I don't even like heights,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: so it was now very clear to her what was happening.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: She was inside a ufo, saying UFOs she had seen
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: as a kid, and these beings around her could only
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: be aliens. Seeing the earth so far away from her
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: scared her. So she turned around at this point and
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: saw another figure standing or walking through an arched doorway,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: And this one was a little different from the smaller grays.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: This one was taller, about five and a half feet,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and looked like the others, but was much more human looking.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: She appeared to be female, so this is probably a hybrid.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Her skin was pale, she had big, dark almond eyes,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: though smaller than the others. Pamela saw that she had
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: small holes where the ears would be. She did have thin,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: wispy white hair, and she was wearing a long, shiny,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: shimmering gown. This figure looked at her than back the Grays,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: hid it in her head, back at Pamela, and back
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and forth to the grays several times, as if she
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: was curious about what was happening. The next thing Pamela
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: knew she was back in her bed, was a few
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: hours before dawn. She lay awake in bed waiting for
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the sun to rise, and when she finally heard her
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: parents wake up. She immediately approached them and told them
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: what happened. Both were understandably shocked. Her mother didn't really
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: like the subject didn't want to talk about it, but
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: her father was much more open minded and accepting, and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Pamela told him thanks, Dad, because it really did happen.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: And following this, there were lots of other strange incidents.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Pamela did notice an unexplained healed scar on her leg.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: She began to experience weird poltergeist like activity, knocking noises,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: objects being moved by theirselves, doors opening and closing, lights
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: going on and off, and so forth. She also began
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: having weird premonitions. Once, while driving with her father, she
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: screamed at him to pull off the road, and that
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: was just in time to avoid a bad collision. On
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: another occasion, she saw exactly where her uncle had lost
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: his watch while hiking in the forest. Now Pamela isn't
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the only one in the family who started seeing UFOs,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: because one day her younger sister said she was walking
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: in the woods and came upon a gigantic glowing orb.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: It seemed like sooner or later everyone in the family
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: had seen a UFO. But time passed, Pamela grew up,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: she got married. Then, of course, came this incident in
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five, at age twenty two, when she and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: other family members saw this two hundred foot wide saucer
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: hovering over the oak tree in the front yard. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: it was later on that same night she went to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: check on her two year old son in his bedroom,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: looked out the window and there was another UFO, this
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: brilliant white light hovering about fifty feet over the nearby river.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: And as Pama says, I knew it was a UFO,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: what else could it be? It quickly moved off, but
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: kind of filled her with some concern because she was
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: again wondering why were the UFOs so interested in her
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and her family. And sure enough, one year later, she
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and her boyfriend were in the kitchen one night when
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: they both saw an object shining a brilliant beam of
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: light through the kitchen window. So they rushed outside to
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: see this brilliant, silent object hovering overhead, still shining this
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: beam of light directly on them. Frightened, they ran back inside,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: took refuge in the living room, and the object shown
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the beam on them again. Through the living room window
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and then it left. But it was this series of
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: sightings that caused Pamela to start researching the subject, and
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: she was shocked to read accounts similar to hers. She
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: ended up contacting Muffan, worked very briefly with an investigator
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: who reassured her that yeah, yeah, her experience was real
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: and matched the accounts of others, which by then, of course,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Pamela already knew there were long quiet periods with no
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: UFO activity, but sooner or later it seemed the UFOs
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: always came back. For example, in nineteen eighty six, at
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: age thirty four, she stepped outside her home to wait
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: for her teenage son, who had gone to visit a
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: friend and was a little bit late returning home. So
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: she was out there waiting for him, and suddenly she
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: got the feeling of being watched, and turning around, she
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: saw coming right over the top of her house a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: quote saucer shaped craft. She could hardly believe how close
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: it was this time, she estimates no more than thirty
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: feet overhead, and she couldn't move. As Pamela says, it
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: gave off an energy. I was tingling all over, the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: tingling kind of made me feel funny. I was nervous
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: about it. I was kind of stuck there. I just
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: couldn't move. It kind of made me uneasy. It was
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: too close, was going down my driveway. I was glad
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: when it took off down over the hill. So she
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: ran inside and told her husband, who asked her why
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: had she not told him, and she explained that she couldn't.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: She wanted to, but she couldn't move, and was at
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: that point that her son came running into the house.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: He burst inside it and said, Mom, you won't believe
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: what me and my friend just saw. We saw a
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: flying saucer, and he proceeded to describe exactly what Pamela
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: herself had just seen. So that seems pretty intentional. It
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: was just a few days after this that Pamela and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: her husband were lying in bed when a small white
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: orb entered through the window and darted around in the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: bedroom for just a few moments, and then zoomed back
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: out the window. Both she and her husband were absolutely
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: awe struck. After this incident, Pamela had a feeling that
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: she was being watched. This kept returning, and for some
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: reason she couldn't explain, she became afraid of looking out
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the bathroom window. Just a few days after this, she
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: woke up a sense of presents in the bedroom. She
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: felt certain that the grays were there or had been there. Oh,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: she didn't see anything. Things slowed down after that, but
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, her son announced that he had seen
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and actually a videotape to UFO, and in fact the
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: account was published in the local newspaper. One year later,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, Pamela had a dream that the gray
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: et was looking at her through that same bathroom window
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: that she had been so afraid of looking outside of.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: So she believes this dream was probably a memory of
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: a true event that had somehow been hidden in her subconscious.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: But it was a gray, as she says, I guess
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you'd call it a typical gray with the big eyes.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: It was looking back at me. So even as late
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: as twenty twenty, events were still in progress. Once she
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: heard a soft swishing sound over the house and recognized
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: it as the sound the uf sometimes make, she still
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: had the sensation of being watched, and she began to
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: wonder if perhaps the ets had taken her genetics at
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: some point, and that she might have an ET hybrid
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: child or children out there. She's got good reason for
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: thinking this because, as Pamela says, as I said, I
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: may have children somewhere up there. The other night, I
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: had a dream that they came from me again and
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: told me they wanted to show me something. In my dream,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: there were these young adults, part alien looking, part human looking.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Their hair was thin and white, almost like an older
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: person's hair. They had some weird looking clothes on, and
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I said, you are mine, and they all came to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: me and hugged me. I woke up crying. So this
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: is the kind of detail I've heard from many contactees,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and it was absolutely clear to Pamela at this point
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that the UFOs and ETS were following her family for
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: some reason, and evidence of this came shortly later in
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty, her son called and said that that night
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: that he had filmed the UFO something amazing happened, which
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: he at first kept secret but decided to finally tell her.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: As Pamela says, that same night, he said, there were
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: bugs in the bedroom. He said, you know, they looked
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: like a big praying mantis. He said, they just stood
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: there and when they woke up in the morning they
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: were gone. He is pretty shook up about it still,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: So yeah, as you can see, this is something that
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: is ongoing in Pamela's life and her family's life, which
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: is more the rule than the exception with UFO contactees. Again,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: her story is told in my book Humanoids in High Strangeness. Again,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: this case does come from my book Humanoids in High Strangeness.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I somewhat summarized it and shortened it here, so if
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you want to hear the full story, definitely check out
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: my book. But what an amazing case. She is really
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: an honest and sincere witness. She tried very hard to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: get all the details correct. She of course did review
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: her chapter before it was published in the book and
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: didn't have any corrections, but did have a few additions
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: because again, events are ongoing. She's a really wonderful person
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: and I absolutely am honored to share her story with you.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: So thank you, Pamela. I truly appreciate it. Now let's
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: move to the next case. This one is also very interesting.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: This I call the onboard ufone en counter of Susan.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Like many contactees, she prefers to remain anonymous. Totally understandable,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: her case took place in nineteen sixty nine, one of
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the major onboard experiences in Adelaide, Australia, but again certainly
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: not a singular event. She's had many on board experiences. Actually,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: what I found interesting about her case is her experiences
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: really show one of the main et agendas, as we'll
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: see when we get into her case, but she also
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: showed many of these really interesting after effects, including really
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: pronounced psychic abilities. So overall a truly fascinating and important case.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: This case comes from Australian researcher Keith Basterfield and involves
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: an anonymous witness with the pseudonym of Susan. She was
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: born in nineteen fifty nine and she was eight or
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: nine years old when she had her first strange experience
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: that she can remember. At the time, she lived with
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: her family near Port Augusta in South Australia. She and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: her friend were walking outside at night when they noticed
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a group of six unusual looking lights. They were colored white, red,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and green, but they approached and actually hovered over them
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: at low elevation. They became frightened by them and hidden
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: a ditch alongside the road. She's really not sure what
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: happened next, but does have a vague memory trying to
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: wake up some of her friends who had apparently fallen
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: asleep while she and others ran across the field fleeing
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the scene. It was just one or two years later,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: around nineteen sixty nine nineteen seventy, her family had moved
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to Adelaide, and she recalled lying in bed one evening
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and had a powerful premonition that they, she's really not
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: sure who, were coming to get her that night. In fact,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: the feeling became so strong that she convinced her sister
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to switch beds with her, and sure enough, that night,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Susan remembers little beings and one tall being entering the
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: room and taking her into another strange room where she
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: underwent some kind of medical examination. This was fully consciously recalled.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: She also remembered that they took her to another room
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: where they showed her images of something like a film
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: she couldn't really remember what, and then conversed with her.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: She had no other memory of this other than Following this,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: she began having nightmares of that experience, which persisted throughout
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: her entire teenage years, and this is when she also
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: began to experience a wide variety of psychic and poltergeist
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: like paranormal events. She heard phantom footsteps moving through the house,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: other strange noises. Sometimes her bike would move by itself.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: She'd be watching TV and suddenly she'd get a vision,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a premonition of a future event. She sometimes heard calming
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: music coming from no discernible source. So all these things
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: were happening. She grew up. She got married, and sometimes
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: she would have fights with her husband, as happens, and
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: when she got really angry, she picked up a glass
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: of water. It would shatter a few times, knives came
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: out of the drawer and pointed at her husband. She
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: heard strange tapping noises on the ceiling, so did he.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: One evening, her husband saw her sleeping and she was levitated,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: floating above her bed. This also occurred at work, weird events,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: chairs would move by themselves, phantom footsteps, even occasional apparitions.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: One time, an unseen entity pulled at Susan's hair. Like
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: many contactees, she does have an idetic memory. She says
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: she sleeps only two or three hours per night. Years past,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: practically a decade when finally Susan contacted the UFO Research
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: of South Australia. This is a UFO research organization, and
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: she was put in touch with Keith Basterfield, UFO researcher,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: and she elected to undergo hypnotic regression to recall what
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: might have happened to her as a child. She was
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: taken back to that event at age ten or eleven
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: when she saw ET's coming into the bedroom. She lay
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: down in her sister's bed and when she started to
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: feel a strange sensation of warmth and expansion, as she
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: put it, and she heard an unusual ringing sound and
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: she immediately saw small and one tall one entered the room.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: She said. The small beings were about four feet tall,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: with large bald heads, large dark eyes, a small nose,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a slit for a mouth, bony looking cheeks, so your
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: typical grays. She saw that they did have webbing between
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: their fingers. All of them were wearing flesh colored one
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: piece outfits. She didn't see the tall being as clearly,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: but she could see it was very tall, seven feet
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: tall and had a normal looking nose and was wearing
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the same type of suit, but it had what looked
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: like a cape and a hood over its head. So
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: they walked right up to Susan's bed where her sister
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: was sleeping, because they had switched beds, and they appeared
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to be momentarily confused that she was not there, but
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: quickly went to the other bed and found her. The
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: tall one began to speak to her telepathically, saying not
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: to be afraid and to go with them. They levitated
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: her from her bed into a standing position. One of
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the beings handed her a ball of light, so she
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: held that. They surrounded her, and the entire group moved
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: together through the wall and into the yard, and suddenly
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Susan found herself moving up into the air invisible steps
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: towards this bright glowing object. Soon she was surrounded by
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: this bright light coming from this object, and found herself
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: with the beings in a strange room. They took this
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: small ball of light from her hands. She was placed
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: on a chair of some kind, which quickly reclined into
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: a horizontal table, and then the tall entity proceeded to
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: conduct some kind of medical gynecological exam. She had the
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: sense that the tall being was concerned about something with
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: her health. Perhaps more tall beings appeared. They made a
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: larger table rise up, and they put her on that
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: she briefly passed out. When she woke up, she felt
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: somewhat unwell. The small beings helped her to sit out up.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: They gave her a warm, purple colored drink to consume.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: She was then bathed in a green light and the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: small beings pulled her from the table and had her
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: walk around, which was difficult because her legs felt a
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: little bit numb. But after her legs returned to normal,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: she was taken over to a pile of cushions on
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: the floor, where she sat down. Some of the little
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: grays sat next to her, and was at this point
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: that she started to see moving images like a film
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: appear on the wall in front of her, and this
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: showed a planet floating in space. It zoomed forward and
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: she saw close up of trees in a park area,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: and there were more of the tall beings there, and
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: suddenly there was a major disaster going on, perhaps an earthquake.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: She thinks. He saw that many of these beings were
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: dying and the survivors were being lifted up into a craft.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: The tall being said that he and the others were
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: survivors of this disaster. He told her that at one
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: point they used to live on Earth. Earth. He said
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: that they were interdimensional in nature. They told her that
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: she had to return because she had important work to
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: do on Earth. So they stood her up, handed her
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: this ball of light again, and Susan found herself floating
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: out of the craft, down to her home, through the wall,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and back into the bedroom. So this is what she
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: recalled under hypnosis, and she recalled a few other incidents
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: as well. She remembered being taken from a beach at
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: age twelve. At age sixteen, she recalled being taken to
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: what appeared to her to be another planet. At age nineteen,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: she was taken again. She doesn't describe these incidents in
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: any real detail, other than to say that they involved
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: physical gynecological examinations and on at least one occasion, intimate
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: relations with one of the tall ets. One of these
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: intimate meetings occurred in nineteen seventy nine, and afterwards she
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: believed she became pregnant. She was showing signs of food
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: cravings enlarged abdomen im brest's cessation of her cycle. But
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: then she had what she believes to be a spontaneous miscarriage,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and the same thing happened again. In nineteen eighty six,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: after another intimate session with a tall et, she became pregnant.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: This puzzled her because she knew she had not had
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: sex with anybody not on earth. She began having nightmares
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: of having an et baby. She became quite ill during
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: this pregnancy and went to the doctor, who did confirm
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: she was pregnant, but at this point he did not
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: detect any movement in the fetus and became concerned that
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: perhaps it had died in utero. And very shortly later
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: she experienced a second spontaneous miscarriage. So if she had
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: all this stuff going on, and one time she went
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: to the dentist, she got X rays and the dentist
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: told her that these X rays showed two unusual objects
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: in her upper gums, and they asked her if she
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: had had previous dental work, which Susan denied. Years later,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: she had more dental X rays which also showed these objects.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: These X rays were obtained by researcher Keith Basterfield, and
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: he could see these artificial looking foreign bodies in her
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: mouth himself, as he said that they were straight metal
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: pieces that appear to be situated in her upper gums
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: just below her nose. Though, Keith wrote about this case
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and he leaves his interpretation open as to how to
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: explain these events, but again, a very interesting case. There
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you go, thanks to Keith Basterfield for bringing that case
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: to the public attention. Really interesting regarding the implants, this
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: is something I think probably most contactees have. I don't
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: think that there's anything nefarious personally to implants. My research
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: has shown actually that they're pretty much health related. But
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: a really fascinating case because it does show the ET's
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: interest in human rep production. So that makes this case,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I think significant. It's a pattern that has been fairly
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: well established. And remember, these cases are coming from all
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: over the world, from people who don't know each other
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: and yet are showing amazing similarities. This is corroboration. I think,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: how can these people all be telling the same story
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: and not know each other unless this is all true?
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: And I think it is because there are so many
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: cases like these. Again, it's just not one or two
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: people telling these stories, it's a lot of them, and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: almost all contactees do have corroborating witnesses to some extent.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: So that alone, I think is a very important fact
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: that we really need to consider when we try to
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: explain these cases. It's not just one person saying this.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: So let's move to the next case. This one's also
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: pretty darn interesting. It's not as lengthy as some of
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: the other case, but it's super fascinating. It's got some
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: really interesting details to it. I call this one the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: onboard ufoone encounter of Roberla Tea. Her case was thoroughly investigated.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: It occurred on June twenty third, nineteen seventy three, in Phoenix, Arizona.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Phoenix has quite a lot of activity. Arizona is one
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: of the leading producers of UFO reports in the United States,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: but again, ufoone en counters occur everywhere. In this case,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: she did use hypnosis to recover the onboard segment, but
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: absolutely does recall seeing humanoids and having missing time, so
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: it's not like this is being made up out of
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: whole cloth. She does remember quite a bit of her
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: encounter and some really interesting ones, some unique details in
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: this one. This case comes from researchers Lester Seward and
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Lex Medane. The witness is Roberla t again a Phoenix,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and on June twenty third, nineteen seventy three that evening,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: she stepped out onto her patio, and this is when
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: she noticed a starlike object descending from the sky, eventually
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: hovering at a spot just above the trees beyond her patio.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: She could now see that it was a large, solid, illuminated,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: roundish object and was close enough that she could hear
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: a humming noise coming from it. She stood there watching
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: it when a squarish opening appeared. She described it as
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: quote like garage doors opening. She could now see a
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: light streaming out from the interior of this opening, and
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: this is when suddenly a human like figure approached the
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: opening from one side, proceeded to cross to the other side,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: then bent down to quote do something. This surprised her
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: enough that she exclaimed out loud, and apparently this being
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: heard her because he abruptly leaned out of the opening
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: and stared directly at her. He was only visible from
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the knees up, but she could see that he was
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: wearing a skin tight suit of some kind. He dropped
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: his head slightly, and as he looked at her, she
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: could see that he was tall. With the large head,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: it looked to her like quote he was messing around
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: with some instruments. Suddenly she heard another humming noise, and
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: looking off to her left, she saw a second, smaller
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: object approaching. It moved off behind the post and disappeared,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: and immediately, looking back to the first object with the
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: humanoid in it, she saw that it too had vanished.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: At this point, Still on her porch, she unaccountably fell asleep,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: and upon awakening, was puzzled to find that she was
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: in a different position. So, thinking about this years later,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: she decided to contact a UFO group called the Ground
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Saucer Watch, and after speaking with investigators, decided to undergo
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: hypnotic regression. An under hypnosis, she relived this sighting and
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: then instead of this object disappeared, she saw that the
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: figure she had seen in the doorway of the craft
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: was now standing directly before her on the patio. This
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: being told her not to be afraid, and she suddenly
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: found herself floating upwards. Looking to her side, she saw
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: a dog also floating in the air, and suddenly she
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: found herself inside this dark, enclosed room. She had some
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: trouble seeing at this point, but she did feel as
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: though an instrument of some kind was being placed on
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: her head. This made her somewhat uncomfortable and aggravated, as
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: she put it, she did since the presence of two
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: figures around her, but could not clearly see them. She
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: did have the impression that they were talking to each
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: other in a language she could not understand. The next
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: thing she knew she was back on the patio of
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: her home, and was four or five hours later. So
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: certainly an interesting although brief, on board experience. And in
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: an apparently unrelated case, ten months earlier, also in Fieena,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: a young witness reported seeing a silver, white disk forty
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: five feet wide thirty five feet tall sitting on the
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: ground not far from his home. Standing next to the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: craft was a quote very tall, lean male, and, as
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: the witness says, he appeared to be seven feet tall
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: wearing a silver gray military type uniform. He said, return
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: to your home, do not come back until morning. He
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: communicated with his mind. He was firm in his request
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: and compelling, but did not present himself as threatening. I
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: returned to my home. I could hear sirens coming to
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: the location where the saucer and the man stood. Two
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: to three hours later, the police did come to our
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: door and asked my mother to keep all of US
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: indoors that night. So another really interesting humanoid case in Phoenix.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Apparently not related, but who knows. It was just ten
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: months earlier, all about that that she saw a dog
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: floating in the air. I did a whole episode on
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: dogs that have been taken on board UFOs. She didn't
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: see the dog on board, but I wonder about it.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Her memory of the actual onboard segment is somewhat shady.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: She doesn't really remember all of it, I mean, so
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: it's very possible that there's more to it than she
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: consciously recalls. But another example is someone who's been taken
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: on board these craft, so many of them. And here's
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: another one. This one was published in various newspapers but
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: hasn't gotten a whole lot of attention. I call this
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: one the onboard UFO encounter of Francesco Ojeda. So this
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: one is super interesting because this appears to be a
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: sort of opportunistic event, and by that, I mean it
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't appear that the etis were specifically seeking out This
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: boy kind of just walked up to a landed craft
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: in the forest and this resulted in onboard encounter, or
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: so it would appear. This one occurred on March third,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six in Fontalasa. This is in Sierra Brazil,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: and it's a pretty amazing case with some fairly significant
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: physiological effects. This case was first published in the Brazilian
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: newspaper La Nacion and later in an article by Gray
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Barker in the June nineteen seventy seven issue of the
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Saga UFO Report, and was later widely published in several
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: UFO publications. It's sparse on details, but apparently on March third,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, twelve year old Francisco Ojeda disappeared. He
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: was last seen leaving his school in Fortaleza. When he
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: didn't return home that evening, his frantic parents organized a search,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: and this search continued the day after and the next day,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: with no trace of Francesco being found. Finally, after two days,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: his parents, guided by Francesco's dog, found him in the
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: forest about one mile from his house. He was crying,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: he was disoriented, he was wandering aimlessly, he was unable
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: to see, and his skin was red as though from
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: a bad sunburn. So they rushed him home and he
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: had an amazing story to tell. Around four pm, twelve
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: year old Francesco left his school for the day and
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: was walking through the woods to his home in Fort Lesa, Brazil.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: This was a trip he had taken many times before,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: of course, but coming to a clearing in the woods,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: he was amazed to see a shiny, metallic disc shaped
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: object resting upon a kind of metal platform. He said,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: A door was opened to the craft. He estimated that
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: it was about forty feet in diameter. But most amazing,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: standing next to it were two humanoids under five feet
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: tall wearing shiny suits. Francisco had the impression that they
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: were making some kind of repairs to the craft. Now
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: seeing the boy, the beings were apparently startled as they
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: immediately leapt into the craft through the open door. The
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: door promptly closed. A device located on top of the
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: craft started to rotate. It then flashed an intense beam
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: of light onto Francesco, blinding him, causing him to fall
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: to the ground semi conscious, he said, and the next
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: thing he knew, he was waking up inside the craft.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: He had some trouble remaining fully awake, but he does
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: recall that the beings removed his clothes, placed him on
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: a table. He set a very bright amber light shone
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: down on him, and they began to communicate telepathically, as
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: he says, in my head, and they began to assure
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: him that they intended him no harm. They then told
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: him quote, we are coming in great numbers to visit
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: your planet. The next thing he knew, he was back
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: in the forest. His skin was sunburned, he was unable
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: to see. Thankfully, by mourning his sight had returned. But
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: per the La Nacion newspaper turned out, residents of the
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: nearby villages were very concerned as over the last few
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: nights an unidentified flying object had been seen by many
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: of them, crossing the skies and sending down brilliant beams
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: of light. Pretty darn interesting, and as often happens when
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: people are taken on board, they are physically examined. According
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: to Thomas Bullard, who did the first statistical study of
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: on board UFO cases, that is the one event most
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: people report, and in fact, I would say the vast
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: majority of people who are taken on board are physically examined,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: and for that reason we conclude that this is one
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: of the reasons people are taken on board. And I've
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: come to learn that a lot of the times. This
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: is really all about healing. As you may know, I
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: wrote a book about healing cases, The Healing Power of UFOs,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: outlining some three hundred cases. It's practically double that now
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I keep uncovering new cases. But I say this because
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I think, really honestly, this is why people are being
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: physically examined. It amounts to a checkup. So now I
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: want to move to the next case. This one, to me,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: is one of the most interesting in this compilation. This
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: one I call the onboard UFO encounter of doctor Simon
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Taylor and Raza X. This is a multiple witness onboard
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: UFO case. Both these men remember their experience fully consciously,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: both report the same details. But boy, this one is
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: really unusual. There are some elements to this one that
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard before, at least not in quite this way.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: But again there's other things that sounds absolutely sort of
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: run out of the mill, because an onboard experience does
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: follow a fairly set sequence of events, and we see
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: that here. This one occurred on September sixteenth, nineteen seventy six,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: in the Elbers Mountains of Iran. To me, that makes
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: this case super interesting because we rarely get information about
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: UFO activity in Iran. Certainly we've heard sightings there, but
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: reports of onboard encounters there are exceedingly rare. But as
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: it turns out, this one occurred at a very interesting time,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: bringing quite a bit of confirmation to this event. I
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: think you'll find it an amazing case. This very unusual
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: case comes from UK researchers Peter Huff and Moisch Hollman.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: It was the mid nineteen seventies when the witness. The
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: main witness, doctor Simon Taylor, was working as an English
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: ssh language instructor in the Imperial Iranian Air Force in Tehran.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: He comes from England but was working there and having
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: some free time. On September sixteenth, nineteen seventy six, he
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: set off with his Iranian friend Raza to the village
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: of Athar, located in the Elbers Mountains also known as
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the Albors Mountains. So they parked their car in this
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: little village and set off on a hike up the
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: mountain side, finally stopping for the night in one of
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: the many climber's cabins that are located all along the
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: mountain side. These cabins are free for anyone to use
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: and sometime in the middle of the night, Simon woke
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: up to an unbearable heat and a seeming lack of
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: oxygen in the room. His friend Raizo was already up,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: choking and checking to see if the paraffin lamp, which
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: was lit in the center of the room might be
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: responsible for this lack of oxygen. But within moments they
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: heard strange crackling sounds outside, followed by a quote series
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: of heavy pounding thumps. These were beating on the cabin walls.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: This was so loud it terrified them both. They immediately
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: ran outside, still dressed only in their long johns and
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: T shirts, and were immediately confronted by a shocking sight.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: There were three strange looking figures dressed all in black,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: with their nose and mouth covered, and each was holding
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: a flashlight like instrument, and as Simon says, the only
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: feature I can remember is their eyes slightly mongoloid, similar
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: to the Turkomen in northeast Iran, but these eyes were
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: much bigger and more lustrous. It was though the upper
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: part of their face was all eyes, So their eyes
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: is what really impressed them. He said, they're kind of
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: bulging a little bit, and he wondered momentarily if they
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: were Iranian secret police, but immediately discarded this thought, not
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: only because their unusual appearance. That the beings began to
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: speak to both of them telepathically, saying, do not be afraid,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: pack your things and follow us. And as Simon says,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: not one word was orally spoken the entire time we
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: were with them. It was as if their words were
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: transferred into my mind, and I heard myself answer, just
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: as one could hear one's own thoughts. So Simon and Raza,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: to their own surprise, dutifully obeyed and followed these men
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: out of the cabin down the path for a few
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: hundred feet, when suddenly they were no longer on the path,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: but inside a strange room. And not just let Simon
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: describe what happens, as he says, under our feet lay
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: a thick Persian carpet. It was as beautiful as any
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: scene hanging in a bazaar. The whole place was bathed
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: in the softest of lights. We were in the middle
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: of what seemed to be an oval shaped room and
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: were invited to sit cross legged on the floor. A
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: screen took up the whole of one long wall. I
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: call it that, yet I felt as if we could
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: have fallen through. We could see the distant lights of
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: the city. The room began to shake and shudder, and
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: we were told not to be afraid, although this time
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I did feel nervous. The lights of Tehran began to
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: recede and then swung back into view directly beneath us.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: The room was swaying like a cable car on its
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: way up a mountain. There was a tremendous pressure in
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: my ears, and I must have looked alarmed because one
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: of the men tried to reassure me. So the men
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: could hardly believe what this window or screen in front
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: of them showed. The craft apparently was taking them on
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: a visit to numerous places all over a planet Earth.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: As Simon says, I cannot remember all the places we visited,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: but I distinctly remember fantastic aerial panoramas of London, New York, Harris,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: and my hometown city of Birmingham. We saw deserts and
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: wastes of ice and snow seas, more water than I
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: have ever seen in my life. The pictures were crystal
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: clear and three dimensional. When we flew near some sheep
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: on an Albanian hillside. They were so close I felt
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I could reach out and touch them. So during this
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: trip around the world, these humanoids spoke to them telepathically,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: providing a running commentary about the people in each area,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: their habits and beliefs. Not once did anyone or anything,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: any animal outside the craft react to the presence of
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: the craft. At one point, the beings did say that
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: they live on earth and added, we are not as
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: you see us. Suddenly, with no warning, the trip came
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: to an abrupt end. The humanoids told them to exit
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: the craft again. Obeying the humanoids without question, they stepped
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: outside the room and found themselves suddenly on the pathway.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Looking around them in a stunt, they saw that the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: sun was now high in the sky and they were
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: only a couple of one hundred yards from where they
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: had parked the car the day before. They were miles
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: from where they had been taken. Was now hours later
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: two pm, so they were missing about five or six
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: hours of time. Both men were disoriented in a daze.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: They drove off in silence, weirdly, not talking about what
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: had just happened. They drove for about an hour, pulled
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: off at a roadside food stand, and this seemed to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: quote break the spell, as Simon put it, and they
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: both immediately began talking in a rush about what had
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  Speaker 1: happened to them. They considered all different theories, everything from
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  Speaker 1: a hallucination brought on by fumes from the lamp, food poisoning,
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  Speaker 1: a psychotic break, but the fact that they both experienced
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  Speaker 1: the same thing seemed to negate all these theories. They
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  Speaker 1: drove back to Tehran, both became violently ill. Simon had
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  Speaker 1: crushing migraine headaches, overwhelming fatigue, and later developed in a
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  Speaker 1: version to bright lights loud noises. He became somewhat depressed.
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  Speaker 1: Both men felt emotionally shattered. Simon began having many dreams
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  Speaker 1: about this encounter. Raisa, his friend, made Simon promise not
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  Speaker 1: to talk about it, and soon Raza refused to even
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  Speaker 1: discuss the experience and ultimately this ended their friendship. Now interestingly,
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  Speaker 1: two days after returning to Tehran, numerous people all over
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  Speaker 1: the city started reporting UFOs. Hundreds of people were seeing UFOs,
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  Speaker 1: and in fact, one event became world famous when the
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  Speaker 1: Iranian Air Force scrambled two F four phantom jets to
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  Speaker 1: chase an object. This was captured on radar. This object
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  Speaker 1: was shown to be the size of a Boeing seven
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  Speaker 1: oh seven. They actually tried to shoot at this craft,
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  Speaker 1: but it disabled the weapons control panel and all communication instruments.
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  Speaker 1: So so many people viewed this and there were other
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  Speaker 1: reports of visitations as well. For example, according to the
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  Speaker 1: Tehran Iran Journal, on September eighteenth, nineteen seventy six, only
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  Speaker 1: one day after Simon's and Raza's encounter, a gentleman by
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  Speaker 1: the name of Ahmad Bani Ahmad, aged fifty six, and
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  Speaker 1: his wife were visiting Lake Tabriz in Iran when they
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  Speaker 1: had a remarkable encounter. As Ahmad told reporters, my attention
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  Speaker 1: was caught by a glittering body that landed about one
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  Speaker 1: hundred yards from my car. My wife and I were terrified.
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  Speaker 1: The round object was about four or five meters across
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  Speaker 1: and there was a small window in the side. Two
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: beings similar in shape to Egyptian mummies stepped out. So
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Ahmad says that he was actually taken inside the craft
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  Speaker 1: and that he believed these figures were quote beings from
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: another planet, but he was very reluctant to report it
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  Speaker 1: because he thought he would be disbelieved and ridiculed, so
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  Speaker 1: there's no other information on this particular case. But after
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  Speaker 1: the wave of sightings hit the next day, he decided
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  Speaker 1: to go public and share his experience, but back to
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  Speaker 1: doctor Simon Taylor and Rasa. Simon says he was never
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: able to fully understand his encounter, but he later shared
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  Speaker 1: it with an expert in Iranian theology who told him
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: that his encounter could likely be explained as the trickster's spirits,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: known in their culture as jinns. So this theory resonated
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: with Simon, but he wondered about it because, as he says,
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  Speaker 1: the entities, whatever their true identity, were real. Of this,
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  Speaker 1: I have no doubt they could touch and be touched,
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  Speaker 1: see and be seen, speak and be spoken to. We
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  Speaker 1: were not dreaming. Simon, like many contactes, would later have
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  Speaker 1: quite a few psychic experiences, including a bizarre phone call
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  Speaker 1: from an unknown person saying Rasa has joined Raza. Remember
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Rasa is his friend, and shortly later he learned that
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: his friend Raza had actually passed away, so that was unusual.
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  Speaker 1: He also continually had the feeling that these beings were
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: still with him, watching him, and as he says, I
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: know they are there on what I call the tip
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  Speaker 1: of my memory. They move around ghost like at the
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: back of my mind. I know they are there, but
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: not what they are so interesting, and the witnesses themselves
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: are struggling to interpret this experience, raising all kinds of theories.
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  Speaker 1: I think this shows the sincerity of the witness. They're
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: not immediately jumping to you know, this is UFOs and extraterrestrials.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: They're really trying to figure it out. I think one
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: of the most puzzling aspects of that particular encounter is
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: the fact that when they went on board there was
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: a Persian carpet on the floor. Now this may sound unusual,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: but I have to tell you I've investigated other cases
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: with similar details. This is how advanced the ets are.
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  Speaker 1: They can create an environment that will make the witness
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: feel perhaps a little bit more comfortable, and simulate an
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: environment that they're familiar with. So this is I think,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: probably what's going on here. I can't say for sure,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: this isn't my experience, so I absolutely have to respect
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: each witness's interpretation of what happened to them, because, after all,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: it is their experience. I personally think it probably was
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: extraterrestrial given that there was so much UFO activity going
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: on at the same time that these two men had
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: their parent onboard UFO encounter. All right, let's move to
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: the last and final case of this compilation, which is
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: also super interesting and just a little bit different. I
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: like to prevent these cases with unique details because I
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: think they answer some of the questions and provide additional
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: information as to what's going on here. So I called
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: this one the onboard uf encounter of Tatiana mikol Levona.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: May have butchered her name there a little bit, but
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: I did my best at any rate. This case took
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: place on September thirteenth, nineteen eighty nine, in the Provino
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: area of Russia. This is a super interesting case, fully
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: consciously remembered and also pretty benevolent. Although the witness did
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: experience some fear. It's a really amazing case because, like
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: many people, she was essentially given a ride on board
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: this craft. I'm not sure why the ETS are doing
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: this other than to just announce their presence and get
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: people used to the idea that we are not alone
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: in this universe. You can make up your own minds
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: about it, but man, this is an interesting case. This
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  Speaker 1: case comes from researcher Vladimir Azaza of the UFO Lab
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  Speaker 1: Russia UFO Group and was pub in the publication Moskovskaya Pravda.
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  Speaker 1: It was around nine pm on September thirteen, nineteen eighty nine.
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  Speaker 1: As the witness Tatiana mikhai Lavna. She's a forty year
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: old married mother of two children. She was walking near
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: her home located in Prodvino. This is not far from Moscow, Russia.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: She had just gone shopping was carrying her groceries. Suddenly,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: two six foot tall women came out from behind a
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: group of nearby boulders and walked right up to her.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: She was immediately concerned because there was a strange sluggishness,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: kind of lethargy that came over her, which made it
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: very difficult for her to move well. At the same time,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: she was also frightened by these beings very unusual appearance.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: They had light blonde hair, grayish greenish skin, and wore
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: small silver caps with what looked like two antennae like
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: protrusions on top, and were wearing tight fitting silver suits.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: They spoke to her audibly in perfect Russian, but with
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: the strange squeaky voice, and they invited her to go
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: with them. Now. Despite her fear, Tatiana found herself following
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: these two strangers along the road for about three hundred feet,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: where there was an electrical transformer station. Sitting on the corner.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Right there was a small disc shaped object about twelve
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: feet wide and eight feet tall. A door opened on
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: the side, and two women led Tatiana inside. That the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: interior of the craft was completely metallic, except for one
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: large transparent window. She saw what look like an instrument
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: panel lining the circumference of the room. There were three armchairs,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: and one of them a man sat with his back
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: to Tatiana. She could see that he had wide shoulders
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: and strong arms, but during the entire encounter he never
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: moved or turned around. One of the figures who had
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: invited Tachiana and on board, said quote fly with us.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Tatiana declined politely, explaining that she had many chores to do,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: including teaching her son his school lessons and preparing dinner.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: And this is when one of the women told her, well,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: if you hurry, the flight will be over in a
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: short time. Do you agree, So this time Tatiana gave
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: her consent, still holding her grocery bag. She decided to
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: offer some of the bread she had just purchased to
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: these beings, and they told her that they do not
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: quote eat your bread, and then offered her a piece
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: of their own bread. One of the ladies reached out
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: and handed a small piece of this bread to Tachiana,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: and without thinking about it, she immediately took the bread
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: and put it in her mouth and ate it. She
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: said it tasted to her kind of like wheat or
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: rye bread, but was much sweeter. Tatiana then sat down
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  Speaker 1: in one of the armchairs and immediately this craft took
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: off silently. A light on the ceiling of the room
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: began to revolve rapidly, and looking out this window, Tatiana
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: could now see the rooftops of the city as they
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: flew over this area. So the flight was very smooth,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: very calm, and after about ten minutes of this, Tachiana
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: asked if they could return her back home. One of
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: the et women asked her where do you live? Tatiana replied,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: in one of the prefabricated buildings in the outskirts of Prodvino.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: They asked her on the floor, she replied, the fourteenth
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  Speaker 1: floor at this point, they offered to drop her off
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  Speaker 1: on her balcony. Tatchana considered this, but thinking of her
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: husband and children and that they might be frightened by this,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: she declined this offer and asked them to drop her
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: off in a parking lot near her home, which they did.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Etis said goodbye and told her that they would contact
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: her again someday. Tachiana was not happy to hear this.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: This encounter, although benevolent, was quite frightening to her. She
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: quickly left without saying goodbye. Researchers did later learn that
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: another resident of Protvino saw a disc shape craft lifting
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: up off the ground around the same time as Tachiana's experience.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: How cool is that they actually offered to drop her
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: off on her balcony. Me personally, I probably would have
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: said yes in hopes that my family would see it.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: But I can understand why she declined and asked them
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: to drop her off in a place where her family
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: wouldn't see all this. She was thinking of her family.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: That's I think totally understandable, and I understand that this
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: was frightening for her. Even though I think you can
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: agree the ets were absolutely benevolent, there's no sign of
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: them wanting to hurt people in any of these cases,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think again, I'm just reporting the facts. It's
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: up to each of us to make up our own
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: minds about it. I do try to present cases that
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: I think are valid and have information that can help
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: us understand what's going on here, also find it very interesting.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Then pretty much the vast majority of cases, the ETS
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: are saying the same things. Do not be afraid, have
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: no fear, No harm will come to you. You're fine, relax,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: calm down. So I think this is significant, and I
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: think these cases are really important. I think all UFO
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: cases are important and interesting, but these onboard cases, they
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: have so much more information than almost all the other
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: cases that alone makes them worthy of study and interest,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: I think, and I hope that one day this does
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: go mainstream. It's true, our congressional officials and governments are
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: admitting to the validity of this subject, talking about UFO sightings,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: even crash retrievals and bodies being held in hangars or
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: what have you, But they're not really talking about the
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: fact that people are having direct contact. And I think
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: that glaring absence is absolutely telling and shows that this
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: cover up is still fully in place. This is one
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: of the reasons I really like talking about cases of
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: direct contact humanoids and on board experiences because people deserve
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: to know the truth. And this is the biggest part
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: of the UFO phenomena. Like I said, it's the cutting edge.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why I think these cases are important.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: So that's it for today. I hope you've found this
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: episode interesting, perhaps learned something. It's clear to me this
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: is really going on. There are far too many cases
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: to explain away as our governments would like to say
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: as hoaxes, hallucinations, misperceptions or mental illness. No way that
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: does that account for the implants and the physiological effects,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: and the multiple witness cases and the landing traces and
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: the fact that some of these objects are being caught
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: on there you are and photographed and so forth. So yeah,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: clearly something is going on here. Any logical person can
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: see that. So thank you again. I truly appreciate it.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: You guys. It's because of you I'm doing this research.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you, thank you, And until next time,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: keep asking those hard questions, keep searching for the truth.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: It's up to you, and most of all, keep having fun.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: I will see you next time. Bye for now.