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Save Dat! · We Talk Back

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Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, a production of iHeartRadio
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Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network. Talk, talk, talk to them.
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Speaker 2: We're just two unapologetically Black women with an opinion who
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Speaker 2: talk back.
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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? It's your girl AJ Holiday. What's up, Tandem?
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Speaker 2: Y'all, it's Tandem. I love y'all so much. Thank y'all
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Speaker 2: for coming back again. Another week. For six fucking years
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Speaker 2: we've been doing this shit.
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Speaker 1: We're here to work.
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Speaker 3: I'm ready. No, I'm ready to blow.
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's nice. God, wait your turn.
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Speaker 1: You know, I ain't never impatient. I always get what
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Speaker 1: I want. Always. I just be having to work harder. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I'm ready to blow.
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Speaker 2: How was your weekend?
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Speaker 1: I saw you this weekend. I was thinking, like, what
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Speaker 1: did I do this weekend? That's all I did this
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Speaker 1: weekend is think about what I got to do on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: That's it. So I prepared to come to Charlotte so
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Speaker 1: we can knock these videos out, these visuals for you guys.
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Speaker 1: So that's about it. I didn't do much of nothing, child.
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Speaker 1: I had all of you that I'm invited to. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: That food was so good. But what I wanted to
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Speaker 1: text your ass, because, y'all, I'm a fat ass, but
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Speaker 1: I also be calling Tammy fat ass, bitch, because why
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Speaker 1: the fuck you had all the lobster? Because I have
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Speaker 1: no lobster in my macaroni. So why did a waitress
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Speaker 1: do that? I don't know, because I had lots of
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Speaker 1: lobster in mine.
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Speaker 3: She did dirty.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to compensate you for that lobster bisque that
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Speaker 1: only had that little claw in there. I was so mad.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I had my whole piece of fish, but
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Speaker 1: where is... I barely got any lobster while I was
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Speaker 1: in there. I know. I never ate there before. How
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Speaker 1: long has that place been open?
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Speaker 2: It's been open like maybe two years now.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's new. Yeah, that food, that's a new spot.
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Speaker 1: That's good. Morton's out there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. We went to Dean's Steakhouse. Shout out to Dean's
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Speaker 2: Steakhouse in Charlotte after we finished recording. It ate like
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Speaker 2: two fat drug dealers.
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Speaker 1: That's getting.
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Speaker 3: The fans crazy.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so this isn't, this is like bad, bad, bad, bad.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's only been a few viral little things
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Speaker 1: I've been like challenges I've been wanting to do. And
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Speaker 1: the Netflix one is it might be one of them.
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Speaker 1: I'll probably never actually do it. But I like it.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I don't like when it
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Speaker 1: gets messy now. Like when we seen recently.
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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: When our label meets. But I like the fun ones.
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Speaker 1: But this one is very messy and is very sad.
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Speaker 1: So a TikTok influencer. Sarah Duffy fatally shot after allegedly
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Speaker 1: calling her husband a PDF file in viral Netflix trend
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Speaker 1: before authorities say he took his own life. It says
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Speaker 1: hairstylist and TikTok influencer Sarah Duffy, also known as Sarah Gilson,
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Speaker 1: was fatally shot Thursday night in what police describe as
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Speaker 1: a murder-suicide involving her estranged husband, Jeremy Sean Duffy... in Oklahoma.
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Speaker 1: According to police, Sarah had been granted a protective order
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Speaker 1: against her husband just last month after alleging disturbing behavior.
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Speaker 1: Court records also indicate she had previously sought a protective
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Speaker 1: order against him in 2021. Authorities say the protective order
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Speaker 1: was violated the night of the shooting. Police say one
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Speaker 1: of the couple's children witnessed the shooting and ran to
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Speaker 1: a neighbor's home for help, prompting a 911 call. Investigators
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Speaker 1: say the suspect died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Y'all,
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Speaker 1: this shit hit like home for me. Let me tell
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Speaker 1: y'all about something. The school resource officer who worked at
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Speaker 1: my high school, I graduated in 2002. In 2004, he
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Speaker 1: was supposed to turn himself in for some sexual assault
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Speaker 1: charges against a minor under the age of 16. Instead
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Speaker 1: of turning himself in, he murdered his wife, shot her
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Speaker 1: in the head, a Hispanic woman, and then he fled
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Speaker 1: the country. He has been on the run and FBI
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Speaker 1: most wanted since 2024. I mean, sorry, since 2004. They
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Speaker 1: finally got that motherfucker right now. As of like Thursday
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Speaker 1: last week. But here's the thing. In 2019... I would periodically,
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Speaker 1: because he was fine as fuck. I couldn't believe that
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Speaker 1: he was a white man. Blonde hair, blue eye, gorgeous.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that that man that, you know, had
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Speaker 1: been a school resource officer all this time while I
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Speaker 1: was in school had actually done this thing. So I
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Speaker 1: would periodically check to see if they found him and
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Speaker 1: he's been on the most wanted all this time, right? Girl,
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Speaker 1: I sent the state newspaper an email back in 2019
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Speaker 1: because when I was Googling him, a black man's image
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Speaker 1: from the 40s popped up. as a thumbnail when you're
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Speaker 1: Googling this blonde-haired, blue-eyed man. So I sent they ass
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Speaker 1: a long-ass email, like, this is strategically done. This is
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Speaker 1: not a mistake. This man has been, they not even
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Speaker 1: looking for this person anymore. He was the longest-running escapee,
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Speaker 1: and he was arrested on, like, entering somebody's home after dark.
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Speaker 1: Some little weird, you know, old-ass charge, right? Already y'all
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Speaker 1: have his image along with America's Most Wanted. Right. The
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Speaker 1: man who raped the child and killed himself.
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Speaker 3: Fled the country.
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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. But they finally, he got arrested. And I
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Speaker 1: told them then, I told them then that he was
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Speaker 1: arrested in China. How does it take, like, what was that,
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Speaker 1: like seven years to extradite somebody back to the country?
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Speaker 1: And I understand some states doesn't allow, you know, they
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Speaker 1: don't extradite. And I would think maybe that's why he
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Speaker 1: ended up in China. He was in Shanghai. Right. But
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Speaker 1: why the fuck did it take y'all from 2019 to
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Speaker 1: 2026 to get this man back to the States? So
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Speaker 1: when I saw this, yeah, so when I saw this story,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, that is, that's wild, man. Same situation, but
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Speaker 1: this was a police officer, this guy.
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Speaker 2: I feel like something like that happened with a guy
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Speaker 2: that went to Benedict.
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Speaker 1: He killed himself?
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Speaker 2: Uh-huh, and that he might have been accused of child pornography.
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Speaker 2: And he just recently killed himself.
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Speaker 1: If this is a person I'm thinking about, I remember
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Speaker 1: he fucking karate kicked a nigga in his neck because
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Speaker 1: he was a black belt. But I could see that.
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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: But I hope it's not that person. But... Yeah, we
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Speaker 1: was at a homecoming game one night in high school.
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Speaker 1: He fucking... He kicked a real nigga in his neck
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Speaker 1: and then was like, what? Like, what are you going
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Speaker 1: to do? Because nobody's expecting to get kicked. Right. In
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Speaker 1: the neck. Kicking somebody in uppercutting them? That is like
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Speaker 1: off-guard fighting.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's that. You just never know who you're married to, man.
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Speaker 2: You never know who you're with. That's scary. Like, you
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Speaker 2: go through a nigga phone and you find that he's
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Speaker 2: been harming children and this is your person?
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Speaker 3: Like, what?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'd probably end up in jail for
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Speaker 2: shooting them right there.
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Speaker 1: Yes, right then and there, for sure.
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Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been no TikTok documentary. It might have
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Speaker 2: been one, but it would have been a real one.
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Speaker 2: Why are you sitting in jail?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I have an inkling that I need to
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Speaker 1: go through your phone, I'm probably going to leave you.
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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at nowadays. Because obviously you're looking for
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Speaker 1: something because your intuition is telling you to go through
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Speaker 1: that motherfucking phone. And the worst shit, I don't want
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Speaker 1: to see no kids and I don't want to see
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Speaker 1: no fucking booty holes.
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Speaker 3: I don't like going through phones.
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Speaker 2: I don't like going through phones. I don't like people
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Speaker 2: going through my phone. I just always have been saying
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Speaker 2: I have no desire to ruin my own day.
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Speaker 1: That's it. I'm choosing to be happy. You will fuck
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Speaker 1: your day up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And a nigga will fuck their day up going through
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Speaker 1: mine because obviously there's some shit in there that might
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Speaker 1: not be for your eyes. And you can create a
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Speaker 1: narrative around it based on what your thoughts are, and
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Speaker 1: it's not even what it is, right?
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.
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Speaker 1: Do you delete dick pics from, like, past dicks? I
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Speaker 1: don't save dick pics. They could be in a messaging,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? I don't delete them out
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Speaker 1: the messages, but I'm, like, not saving them to my...
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Speaker 1: You could be saving cock shots to your, like, gallery?
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Speaker 2: I got a cockapedia on this one.
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Speaker 1: Whose dick is this? I'm just, all right. So I
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Speaker 1: just don't delete nothing, you know, so. I learned my
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Speaker 1: lesson with that shit when I had told my ex-boyfriend
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Speaker 1: one time that I had a video of another nigga
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Speaker 1: eating my pussy. He did not think that was funny.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I mean, I know it's in there
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Speaker 1: because I never deleted it, but it's not like I'm
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Speaker 1: revisiting it to go look at it. I'm just saying,
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Speaker 1: I got some videos.
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Speaker 2: This is just my, you know, everything that happened in
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Speaker 2: life is still in my phone.
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Speaker 1: You can't be honest with niggas. And you can't have
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Speaker 1: videos of nothing.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, when I get in a relationship, so does
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Speaker 2: that mean when I get in a relationship, I got
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Speaker 2: to delete everything?
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Speaker 1: Burn.
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Speaker 2: Burn.
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Speaker 1: You got to get the new number, burn the fucking phone.
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Speaker 2: Man, I'm going to get one of them calculator apps.
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of like a serial killer. Like, these are
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Speaker 2: my trophies, bitch. The fuck you talking about?
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Speaker 1: No, for me, like, cock shots have always, like, saved
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Speaker 1: the body, right? Like, nigga can send his dick and you,
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Speaker 1: I ain't fucking that. Like, that shit don't save your body. Like,
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Speaker 1: nobody likes surprises. Cock shots save lives.
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Speaker 2: I feel like me being so honest on the show.
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Speaker 3: Is going to keep me from ever having a man.
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Speaker 1: And that's the problem. You know what I'm saying? That's
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Speaker 1: why I appreciate that my nigga been listening to the
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Speaker 1: show so he know exactly who the fuck I am.
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Speaker 1: And I don't mean no harm, ever. And if we
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Speaker 1: discuss anything and it's a problem, I don't have a
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Speaker 1: problem adjusting.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I ain't trying to fight
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Speaker 1: for independence that fucking bad, like to keep dicks that
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Speaker 1: I probably never even had sex with. You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying? like some now some head videos getting.
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Speaker 3: Put it in the calculator.
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Speaker 1: I like to see that shit i don't have any
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Speaker 1: right now but i have like went through an old
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Speaker 1: phone looking like i know i got that nigga give
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Speaker 1: me head somewhere like whatever all right so i don't
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Speaker 1: know if y'all saw this y'all probably saw this um.
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Speaker 2: It says, Usher seemingly kicks fan offstage after awkward moment. So,
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Speaker 2: Usher is officially putting future concertgoers on notice while co-headlining
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Speaker 2: the R & B tour with Chris Brown. He made
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Speaker 2: a pit stop in Birmingham, Alabama. While there, Usher made
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Speaker 2: sure to address his latest viral moment with a hilarious
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Speaker 2: unfiltered warning. Pausing mid-show to lay down the ground rules
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Speaker 2: before serenading another lucky lady. Usher cracked a smile and
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Speaker 2: told the crowd, before you get started, don't bring your
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Speaker 2: ass up here if you don't want to be here.
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Speaker 2: He added with a little chuckle, God don't like ugly,
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Speaker 2: but he most certainly don't feel too good about pretty
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Speaker 2: privilege either. So I don't know if y'all saw this.
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Speaker 2: It was a young lady that was brought up on
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Speaker 2: stage and Usher was like all sweaty with his top
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Speaker 2: off and he was like laying her down and she
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Speaker 2: looked like no means no. That's how she laid back.
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Speaker 2: She was not with it at all. And I guess
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Speaker 2: he read the body language. She was on the jumbotron,
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Speaker 2: like pretty much dissing Usher on his tour and like
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Speaker 2: sent her back to her seat, essentially. What'd you think
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Speaker 2: of that?
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Speaker 1: So I watched a video of her on TMZ and
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Speaker 1: she was saying how, you know, she was picked randomly.
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Speaker 1: to come backstage and have this experience, right? So somebody
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Speaker 1: pulled her out of a line somewhere or pulled her,
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Speaker 1: you know, in the stadium somewhere, right?
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Speaker 2: Well, no, first she said, so, you know, y'all would
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Speaker 2: never understand this pretty privilege. I was, my seats were
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Speaker 2: first upgraded to VIP seats and they told me I
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Speaker 2: might get pulled on stage.
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Speaker 1: She said that's for her city, for the people who've
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Speaker 1: been talking shit about her in the city. So she
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Speaker 1: talking directly, yeah, like, listen, she was popping her shit.
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Speaker 3: I'm mad at her.
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Speaker 1: And if she don't want, she didn't know who she
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Speaker 1: was going on stage She didn't know who they would
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Speaker 1: align her with. She said she's not an Usher fan.
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Speaker 1: She looks like a young girl, too. She said she's
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Speaker 1: more of a Chris Brown fan. She went to the
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Speaker 1: concert for Chris Brown. So she would have probably had
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Speaker 1: a different reaction had it been Chris Brown. She was
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Speaker 1: up on stage with. She probably was ready to sit
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Speaker 1: on a nigga face. You know what I'm saying? Because
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Speaker 1: we seen him licking legs and all type of shit
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Speaker 1: he got going on now. But Usher, you know, she
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Speaker 1: looked a little stiff. And we know Usher got that
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Speaker 1: shit going on. You know what I'm saying? What?
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Speaker 4: Because a lot of humans got that shit going on.
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Speaker 4: But maybe she don't got that shit going on and
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Speaker 4: she ain't want that shit going on.
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Speaker 2: First of all, if you not ready to put on
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Speaker 2: a show, don't go on stage.
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Speaker 3: Period.
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Speaker 2: You are part of a performance at this point. And
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Speaker 2: that's what you're signing up for by going on stage.
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Speaker 2: You have seen, you're not oblivious to what happens on
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Speaker 2: a tour with Usher and Chris Brown. You see how
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Speaker 2: the ladies behave. If you're not willing to behave and
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Speaker 2: be a part of this production, then keep your ass
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Speaker 2: in your seat.
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Speaker 1: Was Usher always doing this, though? I know he would do, like,
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Speaker 1: bitches with cherries and climbing on top of each other. Yeah, that, but, like,
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Speaker 1: him climbing on women like Chris Brown does? I never
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Speaker 1: seen that until now.
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Speaker 2: No, he's doing more now.
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I'm saying it's been viral. It's not like you didn't know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like him feeding bitches or like dancing bitches.
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Speaker 2: And all them hoes that was ready to put their
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Speaker 2: legs up for Usher and here you come being a robot.
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Speaker 2: That pissed me off.
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Speaker 1: Get out the way. You would do it? Girl. You'd
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Speaker 1: act out. Ankles in the sky.
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Speaker 3: Seven o'clock on the shot.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Working my hips for Usher.
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Speaker 1: Okay, please stop playing.
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Speaker 2: So I was very upset with her. It was a
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Speaker 2: wasted opportunity. Yeah, because she probably.
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Speaker 1: Ain't going to never get Chris Brown now. No. No,
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Speaker 1: Chris Brown probably in her DM right now. Because he
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Speaker 1: be all gone.
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Speaker 2: That ain't even his type. He like Asian looking bitches.
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Speaker 1: You ain't Asian looking. He got a baby mama that
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Speaker 1: look like her kind of.
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Speaker 2: She look a little Asian.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this girl just look biracial to me or
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Speaker 1: maybe Hispanic.
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Speaker 2: She look like she had her nose done a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Anyway.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, I was mad at sis.
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Speaker 1: But I get it.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to pop your shit. I was upset because
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Speaker 2: it was so many people who wanted that.
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Speaker 1: We were all rooting for you, baby. Hey, y'all. This
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Speaker 1: is a very unfortunate and sad, sickening situation. So there
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Speaker 1: is a content creator. His name is ATL Tay. who
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Speaker 1: is facing a jail sentence after allegedly violating his probation
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Speaker 1: by street racing while driving intoxicated. Now, behind bars, he's
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Speaker 1: been posting emotional updates from prison, claiming he's being forced
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Speaker 1: to have oral sex with every man in the dorm room.
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Speaker 1: This is fucking disgusting. Like, people was laughing in the
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Speaker 1: comments and stuff like that. I mean, a lot of
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Speaker 1: people also had the same sentiments. this is fucking horrible. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's deplorable.
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Speaker 2: But I needed to know what his crime was before
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Speaker 2: I felt bad for him. Is that wrong?
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I needed to know. After knowing that his crime
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Speaker 2: was nonviolent, I mean, he could have hurt people with
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Speaker 2: his crime, but he did not hurt anyone. Now I
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Speaker 2: do feel bad for him because he's a young man.
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Speaker 1: Yes, he's a young man.
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Speaker 2: And then there's everybody in the dorm. Well, everybody in
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Speaker 2: the dorm ain't gay, but.
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Speaker 1: They are gay. For sure. So women, ladies, please be careful.
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Speaker 1: But they say, what, if you gay in jail, it
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Speaker 1: don't count. Yeah, see, that's the bullshit, right? I feel
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Speaker 1: like they think if nobody knows, it doesn't count. If
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Speaker 1: it's just you and the people you having sex with.
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Speaker 1: Nobody else knows.
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Speaker 3: Quiet on the street. No, exactly.
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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 1: So I commented, I said, he's about to get solitary
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Speaker 1: confinement for sure after this hit in the breakfast club.
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Speaker 1: I said, these niggas is punks. And that's the gist
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Speaker 1: of the story. Ladies, please be careful. So one of
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Speaker 1: our mutual friends, Chuck T, he commented, he was like,
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Speaker 1: he a punk for real. I said, he's not hiding
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Speaker 1: being a punk. It's the quote-unquote heterosexual men in the
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Speaker 1: dorm wanting dome from a punk. That's the issue.
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Speaker 2: So let me, I need.
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Speaker 2: Because it's punk. Is it P-U-N-K or is it P-O-N-K?
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Speaker 2: It's punk, P-U-N-K, right?
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Speaker 1: But the hood, we say punk, P-O-N-K, and that is
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Speaker 1: like a flamboyant boy girl.
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Speaker 2: And is that a term that they use for themselves?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they use punk.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I wasn't sure if we were... That's a fucking...
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Speaker 2: I didn't know we were slurring these motherfuckers while I
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Speaker 2: advocated for them at the same time.
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Speaker 1: Them dudes in the comment, I mean, those dudes in
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Speaker 1: the jail are fucking punks. Mm-hmm. Why are y'all sexually
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Speaker 1: assaulting this boy?
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Speaker 2: Assaulting that man, yeah.
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Speaker 1: In jail.
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Speaker 2: Why have to slur everybody dick in the door? He
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Speaker 2: must be really good at it. So, he got to
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Speaker 2: be good at it. But he shouldn't be forced. Nobody
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Speaker 2: should be forced to do sexual favors except for people
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Speaker 2: like George Zimmerman.
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Speaker 1: Somebody commented on this post, the Breakfast Club post, and
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Speaker 1: said something like, y'all need to see this nigga, this Twitter,
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Speaker 1: his Twitter, his ex account. I guess he be going
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Speaker 1: ham on ex. But I mean, even if I want
18:27
Speaker 1: to be a hoe today, I don't want to be
18:29
Speaker 1: a hoe every day. I shouldn't have to be forced
18:30
Speaker 1: to be a hoe any day. Exactly, for anybody. Right.
18:34
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, these niggas is in
18:37
Speaker 1: prison running out. And then they're going to come home.
18:40
Speaker 1: They got kids out here. They're going to come home
18:43
Speaker 1: and act like they wasn't in there getting their dick
18:46
Speaker 1: sucked by a man.
18:47
Speaker 2: They say if it's, they also be like, it's not
18:51
Speaker 2: gay if they getting their dick sucked.
18:54
Speaker 1: Man, they, they, who the hell is they?
18:58
Speaker 2: I'm just playing devil's advocate.
19:00
Speaker 3: I don't know.
19:01
Speaker 1: They also say, and we say, that's a punk. Okay.
19:08
Speaker 1: I seen a video where this dude was tearing the
19:09
Speaker 1: bathroom door down because his.
19:11
Speaker 3: Girlfriend said that.
19:13
Speaker 2: Definitely had some gas in there.
19:15
Speaker 1: Yes. It's either some kids or it's a punk. Right.
19:20
Speaker 1: In that phone. Okay. I remember I met this Hispanic
19:23
Speaker 1: dude and he kept sending me his butthole.
19:27
Speaker 3: His butthole?
19:29
Speaker 1: I'm a woman.
19:30
Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do with that? He kept
19:33
Speaker 2: like bonking up like and opening his butt. Oh yeah,
19:38
Speaker 2: that's wild.
19:39
Speaker 1: Eat ass.
19:41
Speaker 2: Ew.
19:41
Speaker 1: Yuck. What the fuck is happening? I was so confused.
19:46
Speaker 1: So from that, from that point, and then I went to,
19:50
Speaker 1: I remember I went to Puerto Rico one year and
19:53
Speaker 1: I had got this Hispanic guy phone number and I'm
19:55
Speaker 1: texting him like, hey, he was like, are you a
19:58
Speaker 1: boy or a girl? Like trying to determine who it
20:00
Speaker 1: was texting him. Like he probably gave multiple sexes and
20:04
Speaker 1: multiple people his phone number. Mm-hmm.
20:10
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. But I appreciate someone who's openly gay because there's
20:14
Speaker 2: some women who are okay with bisexual men. They're okay
20:17
Speaker 2: with dating bisexual men, and that's fine. But that's just
20:20
Speaker 2: not my cup of tea. And not because I just
20:23
Speaker 2: don't like you to like the same thing as me.
20:26
Speaker 2: I like that we like opposite shit, you know?
20:28
Speaker 3: Right. I don't want you to like dick like.
20:30
Speaker 1: Me, you know?
20:33
Speaker 2: And then I can't compete with dick.
20:35
Speaker 1: You know? You kind of can. I mean, you got
20:37
Speaker 1: it in the store. Yeah, but it's not the thing.
20:39
Speaker 1: You can't compete with a real dick. You just put
20:42
Speaker 1: it in the... Yeah, because you don't got the hip
20:44
Speaker 1: thrust down, probably.
20:46
Speaker 2: No, I got some thrust.
20:48
Speaker 1: You saw that comment I had said 1,500 pumps. Like,
20:51
Speaker 1: 1,500 pumps is just an hour of sex.
20:54
Speaker 2: Who got time for that?
20:55
Speaker 1: If you Google, like, the average pumps during sex, it's
20:58
Speaker 1: a lot.
20:59
Speaker 3: I'm not fucking for no hour.
21:00
Speaker 2: Get out of here.
21:02
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes I like a marathon.
21:05
Speaker 2: You probably be on drugs.
21:07
Speaker 1: Uh, weed. That's it. Say what you be on.
21:10
Speaker 3: Girl, I ain't going to sleep. I got 10 minutes.
21:16
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
21:18
Speaker 2: Why would somebody want somebody to stroke them 1,500 times?
21:21
Speaker 2: You're an animal. Get off of me. I'm calling the police.
21:28
Speaker 3: That's excessive. What we talk about today.
21:32
Speaker 1: Means Save that shit. I want to talk about Carisha's
21:38
Speaker 1: song finally, y'all. I want to talk about all the
21:41
Speaker 1: controversy surrounding Spin That. You know, one of the biggest
21:45
Speaker 1: summer records of the 2026 games.
21:51
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it. We'll be right back.
21:59
Speaker 2: I'm glad y'all came back to visit with us. And
22:01
Speaker 2: I'm so glad we're filming again. You happy about it?
22:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll try to be more consistent. That's the thing.
22:06
Speaker 1: We're going to film, but it might be like a
22:08
Speaker 1: few or far in between.
22:09
Speaker 2: No, we're not doing that.
22:10
Speaker 1: Because it's a podcast, man. Like, why the fuck we
22:13
Speaker 1: got to do visuals anyway?
22:14
Speaker 2: We got to commit to filming every single episode from
22:18
Speaker 2: here on out. Pinky, give it.
22:22
Speaker 1: First of all, the Bible says that you are not.
22:24
Speaker 1: Don't do that. You are not supposed to make oaths.
22:28
Speaker 1: I'm not taking an oath. No, I'm not taking no oath.
22:32
Speaker 2: Why? Come on.
22:34
Speaker 1: You be calling out more than me. It don't even
22:36
Speaker 1: be me. So don't pinky swear. I'm trying to save
22:38
Speaker 1: you from the oath.
22:39
Speaker 2: No, don't do that.
22:40
Speaker 1: No.
22:40
Speaker 2: Come on, let's do it.
22:41
Speaker 1: No. Give me... It's forced. It's under duress. Bitch.
22:47
Speaker 3: Give me that motherfucking pinky, bitch.
22:48
Speaker 1: My pinky is... Look how little my pinky is. Right there.
22:51
Speaker 1: Put your pinky up. Yeah. Okay. You heard it cracked? Yeah.
22:55
Speaker 1: But look at my pinky compared to yours. My pinky
22:57
Speaker 1: is like little and retarded.
22:59
Speaker 2: Look how you.
23:00
Speaker 1: Yo, I don't know why... Why is it? It's a
23:02
Speaker 1: midget pinky.
23:03
Speaker 2: It's ill.
23:04
Speaker 1: All right, let's get on with it. I don't know why.
23:06
Speaker 1: Let's go on with our episode. Sorry.
23:10
Speaker 2: Take my strong hand.
23:12
Speaker 1: I don't know why the fuck my pinky's so little, dog.
23:15
Speaker 1: It is little.
23:17
Speaker 2: All right, what are we talking about?
23:18
Speaker 1: Look, we saved this particular topic so we could talk
23:24
Speaker 1: about it live.
23:24
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
23:26
Speaker 1: Spin that. Spin that shit. Okay, listen. That is the
23:31
Speaker 1: song of the summer, whether you like it or fucking not.
23:33
Speaker 2: Right.
23:34
Speaker 1: My homegirl getting married in the next couple weeks. I
23:36
Speaker 1: cannot wait for that shit. I'm about to get a
23:37
Speaker 1: gold grill and all that type of shit, just so
23:39
Speaker 1: I can act bad when Spin Nat come on. And
23:42
Speaker 1: record it. Yeah, so I wanted to talk about all
23:46
Speaker 1: the controversy surrounding Spin Nat. And I also want to
23:52
Speaker 1: put a little razzle-dazzle in the conversation also, because I
23:56
Speaker 1: want to talk about Quiet on the Creek. Or did
24:00
Speaker 1: we mean creep?
24:01
Speaker 2: Right.
24:03
Speaker 1: Okay. But the controversy surrounding Young Miami, Spin That. Now,
24:08
Speaker 1: that's the only part about the song I don't like.
24:10
Speaker 1: Spin That. Because, you know, I literally be trying not
24:12
Speaker 1: to say. When I talk about spending money or using
24:15
Speaker 1: money because it's a tool, I try to say circulate.
24:18
Speaker 1: Because if you say Spin That, it's not coming back.
24:20
Speaker 1: So now this song got all black people chanting Spin That.
24:23
Speaker 1: Spin that. And we already at the bottom of the
24:26
Speaker 1: totem pole. Okay. So when it comes to like words
24:29
Speaker 1: and spells, we know the quickest way, the easiest way
24:33
Speaker 1: to possess black people is through music. You know what
24:37
Speaker 1: I'm saying? So she got all the black people saying
24:39
Speaker 1: spin that. She may not be consciously aware of what
24:42
Speaker 1: she's partaking in, but you got to know what you're
24:45
Speaker 1: hearing and seeing it when it's happening. Yeah.
24:48
Speaker 2: But outside of the title, which I don't mind.
24:51
Speaker 1: Right.
24:52
Speaker 2: I love the song. It's fun. It's catchy. I don't
24:54
Speaker 2: feel like I'm about to go scam anybody.
24:59
Speaker 1: Right.
25:00
Speaker 2: But I also understand that it's entertainment.
25:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
25:03
Speaker 2: So when we have people like, who was it? NDIRE.
25:07
Speaker 2: There was another popular.
25:10
Speaker 1: The girl from Brownstone, Nikki Gilbert.
25:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
25:13
Speaker 1: One of the artists from Brownstone.
25:14
Speaker 2: They were going so hard against the song. And I
25:16
Speaker 2: just was confused as to why this song. Right.
25:20
Speaker 1: I think because, you know, the controversy isn't because the
25:24
Speaker 1: song is a fucking flop. It is the biggest rap
25:27
Speaker 1: song of summer 2026 games. Okay. And I think the
25:31
Speaker 1: backlash more so centers about like what people believe the
25:35
Speaker 1: song celebrates. Right. The people who are allowing the song
25:40
Speaker 1: to be put out, please know that they are the
25:42
Speaker 1: biggest scammers. There's no black person alive.
25:44
Speaker 3: Right.
25:45
Speaker 2: Right.
25:46
Speaker 1: Scam more than these people.
25:48
Speaker 2: Right?
25:48
Speaker 1: So we be holding the heat on each other.
25:51
Speaker 2: This country was built on.
25:52
Speaker 1: On scam. Yeah. Okay, scam and thievery and mischievous bullshit. So,
25:57
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like.
25:58
Speaker 2: I feel like we should sing the national anthem of
26:00
Speaker 2: the game and then spin it directly behind it. Because,
26:03
Speaker 2: I mean, it applies.
26:04
Speaker 1: Right. So when the song opens up, it's dedicated to
26:10
Speaker 1: scammers and my get money bitches, whatever that means.
26:13
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
26:14
Speaker 1: And it includes lyrics about scamming, spending money, and luxury purchases.
26:18
Speaker 1: Critics argue it glamorizes credit card fraud and online schemes,
26:24
Speaker 1: illegal ways of making money, materialism as a measure of success.
26:29
Speaker 1: That's probably the only little piece that I would agree with.
26:33
Speaker 1: Behavior that could influence younger listeners. So I remember Young
26:37
Speaker 1: Miami was on Jason Lee's podcast, and he asked her
26:41
Speaker 1: if she would want her daughter to be a city girl.
26:44
Speaker 1: She was like, absolutely not. Like, my daughter is going
26:46
Speaker 1: to be a college girl. That's because though she makes
26:48
Speaker 1: this music, she's parenting her child. She's not expecting rap artists, actors, McDonald's,
26:57
Speaker 1: you know, like to feed and parent her child.
27:01
Speaker 2: Well, see, what I'm confused about is because music has ratings,
27:05
Speaker 2: just like movies. You're not going to take your young
27:07
Speaker 2: child to see Training Day with Denzel Washington.
27:10
Speaker 1: Right.
27:11
Speaker 2: You're not bringing your baby there. So why are you
27:14
Speaker 2: letting your baby listen to spin it?
27:17
Speaker 1: Because it be that you like it, and now you're
27:19
Speaker 1: playing it in the car with the kid in the car?
27:21
Speaker 2: Right.
27:21
Speaker 1: You need to have more discipline.
27:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's on you. And that's why they don't do
27:26
Speaker 2: actors like that. Nobody's giving Denzel a hard time about
27:29
Speaker 2: these roles. Nobody's giving any of these actors a hard
27:32
Speaker 2: time about the roles that they play and say, oh,
27:35
Speaker 2: how it affects the children.
27:36
Speaker 1: The gangster roles. Yeah.
27:37
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:38
Speaker 1: When it comes to black movies, though, because just think
27:40
Speaker 1: about Boys in the Hood or Menace to Society. We
27:42
Speaker 1: know for a fact that Menace to Society played a
27:45
Speaker 1: major role in black culture. And also how, you know,
27:49
Speaker 1: I feel like that shit influenced a lot of black men,
27:51
Speaker 1: a lot of black boys at that time, because for
27:55
Speaker 1: whatever reason, we celebrate the bad shit in our culture.
27:59
Speaker 2: But was it really a celebration? If you think about
28:02
Speaker 2: that movie.
28:02
Speaker 1: I think a lot of niggas went and got pistols.
28:05
Speaker 2: Niggas died. All the main characters died. They went outside.
28:08
Speaker 2: All these movies, they go outside. I don't see where
28:11
Speaker 2: the glamour is.
28:14
Speaker 1: On the streets, the street life, you oftentimes go outside.
28:18
Speaker 1: You either go out in the pine box or you
28:20
Speaker 1: go to prison.
28:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what I'm saying is, what about that makes
28:24
Speaker 2: you want to do it?
28:25
Speaker 1: That's what I said in our culture, which the root
28:28
Speaker 1: word of culture is cult. So in our cult, we
28:32
Speaker 1: be glamorizing all the bad things about society. It's just
28:36
Speaker 1: true through music. And I think if we want to
28:39
Speaker 1: change as a people, the music does have to change.
28:43
Speaker 1: So people like India Reid, like this is what they're
28:45
Speaker 1: leaning towards. Like this, this song isn't no different than
28:48
Speaker 1: any other song. This is more blatant about what she's
28:50
Speaker 1: talking about. But I think because it's so big, it's
28:55
Speaker 1: a huge record. She went to the BET Awards. Everybody,
28:58
Speaker 1: she was up there just to give out her award.
29:00
Speaker 1: And my fucking started singing the song, chanting it.
29:02
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying?
29:05
Speaker 1: I know JT like... I just don't think she has
29:09
Speaker 1: the machine behind her. Like Young Miami does. For whatever reason.
29:19
Speaker 1: She might have aligned with the wrong machine. Yeah. Is
29:23
Speaker 1: what I think.
29:24
Speaker 2: Perhaps. But it would have been nice if JT hopped
29:26
Speaker 2: on the remix.
29:28
Speaker 1: I know.
29:28
Speaker 2: It would have been so beautiful.
29:29
Speaker 1: Because JT is a rapper. Yeah.
29:31
Speaker 2: Okay?
29:31
Speaker 1: I can't say the lyrics to Spin That is so spectacular.
29:34
Speaker 1: My favorite favorite part is uh what's your face called
29:38
Speaker 1: nigga were you good at that's my favorite part I don't.
29:41
Speaker 2: Even really know any parts of the song except for
29:43
Speaker 2: the chorus I don't know none of the lyrics but
29:46
Speaker 2: then I don't be knowing the lyrics and shit for
29:48
Speaker 2: real because.
29:48
Speaker 1: I know movies I know music what was.
29:50
Speaker 2: That song that we were all singing and dancing to
29:53
Speaker 2: adults as well and it was definitely about just killing
29:57
Speaker 2: each other It was like, it was, which is a
30:00
Speaker 2: lot of songs that didn't narrow it down very well.
30:03
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, which one?
30:05
Speaker 2: It was really huge. And it was like a dance
30:08
Speaker 2: that went with it.
30:10
Speaker 1: And I know I remember. I'm glad.
30:12
Speaker 2: It was like real drill music. Like, I think it
30:15
Speaker 2: was drill.
30:16
Speaker 1: I'm glad I make space for like things I need
30:18
Speaker 1: to remember. And that's probably why I know exactly what
30:20
Speaker 1: you're talking about.
30:21
Speaker 2: And the song was like very dark.
30:23
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
30:24
Speaker 2: And everybody was just jigging. It was a dance that
30:26
Speaker 2: went with it. So everybody was just kind of.
30:29
Speaker 1: Knock your head off. The little boy from Florida with dreads.
30:32
Speaker 1: Something knock your head off. Make your body jerk. Fuck,
30:40
Speaker 1: what is this? We old! I just can't think of it, baby.
30:44
Speaker 2: Tell Auntie what the song was. It's like... That's the something, something. Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm.
30:53
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was like, that was the sound
30:55
Speaker 2: of the gun or something like that. That's how we
30:57
Speaker 2: ride on niggas. Something like.
30:59
Speaker 1: Oh, one, two, three. I don't know.
31:01
Speaker 2: Anyway. I felt like it was a Chicago drill song
31:04
Speaker 2: and we was just all singing that shit with our
31:06
Speaker 2: whole soul. And I was like, I had to stop
31:08
Speaker 2: and listen. That's the whole soul. See? Exactly. And I
31:10
Speaker 2: had to listen to the lyrics and I was like,
31:12
Speaker 2: oh my, auntie don't need to be singing this.
31:15
Speaker 1: So the biggest public criticism came from NDRV, like we mentioned,
31:19
Speaker 1: who commented that the widespread popularity of the song says
31:23
Speaker 1: something troubling about today's culture. Music influences people's thinking and values.
31:28
Speaker 1: People should be mindful of what they consume. I'm always
31:31
Speaker 1: on that, but I know how to transmit energy. And
31:34
Speaker 1: we can't say a younger generation knows how to differentiate,
31:38
Speaker 1: you know, real from fake.
31:40
Speaker 2: So do you feel like music is more of a,
31:44
Speaker 2: energy-pulling than movies?
31:46
Speaker 1: Absolutely. The vibrations, the frequency in the music, and they
31:49
Speaker 1: know what they're doing when they manufactured. There's no more
31:53
Speaker 1: acoustic instruments and stuff like that. It's not live anymore.
31:57
Speaker 1: They use Pro Tools to create these beats that has
31:59
Speaker 1: the devil in it, essentially, right? And we get to move,
32:02
Speaker 1: and our bodies get to move into it. Like, what's
32:05
Speaker 1: the movie Sinners? That is a great depiction of how
32:08
Speaker 1: we put our soul into the music. Now they got
32:12
Speaker 1: AI artists creating soul.
32:13
Speaker 2: So with that being said, Do you feel like the
32:16
Speaker 2: song should be done with?
32:18
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I think all things are permissible. I
32:21
Speaker 1: think all things can exist. You just have to know
32:24
Speaker 1: how to transmute the energy of the thing. And I mean,
32:27
Speaker 1: it comes with You know, this can sound like gibberish
32:31
Speaker 1: to people, and they don't even realize how the song
32:33
Speaker 1: is actually affecting their lives. We know that drill music
32:36
Speaker 1: is a real thing, that these little boys are out
32:39
Speaker 1: here committing crimes, and they go rap about it before
32:41
Speaker 1: or after the crime. And they go do it while
32:43
Speaker 1: on drugs, under the influence, you leaving your portal open.
32:46
Speaker 1: the outside entities just walking, and you listening to the
32:50
Speaker 1: music simultaneously while you're going to go drill and kill somebody.
32:53
Speaker 2: But then you also got people who listening to it
32:56
Speaker 2: just to lift weights.
32:58
Speaker 1: That's me. Bitch, I be a whole drug dealer in
33:00
Speaker 1: the gym.
33:00
Speaker 2: Exactly. So, I mean, it's just like.
33:03
Speaker 1: It's all about the individual. I sell hella weight in
33:06
Speaker 1: the gym, okay?
33:07
Speaker 2: You live hella weight.
33:09
Speaker 1: Same thing. Whatever, bitch. I be feeling like the biggest
33:12
Speaker 1: trap star of the year. Like, at Jeezy concert last weekend, bitch,
33:16
Speaker 1: I sold hella bricks, okay?
33:18
Speaker 2: And it makes you feel good.
33:20
Speaker 1: Yes. I don't know why.
33:21
Speaker 2: It makes you feel powerful. It makes you feel stronger.
33:24
Speaker 2: But you're not, you didn't leave the gym and go
33:27
Speaker 2: try to buy a brick.
33:28
Speaker 1: Right.
33:29
Speaker 2: No. You know?
33:29
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. The bill's kind of making
33:31
Speaker 1: me feel like I need.
33:32
Speaker 2: I mean, she.
33:33
Speaker 1: Listen, if you like our age right now, it's too,
33:36
Speaker 1: we too old to be going to prison, dog. Like
33:37
Speaker 1: you go to, you go to jail now, buy the brick.
33:39
Speaker 1: Like you coming home in the future. the fuck it's
33:43
Speaker 1: total recall for your ass yeah it's over so you
33:45
Speaker 1: better figure something else out so all right what's one
33:48
Speaker 1: song you absolutely love even though you know the lyrics
33:51
Speaker 1: are just despicable ah um i love all kodak black
34:01
Speaker 1: shit like I don't know none of them. I'm a
34:04
Speaker 1: big Kodak Black fan. He a Gemini. I like all
34:08
Speaker 1: Kodak Black songs, all them Ratchet-ass songs.
34:10
Speaker 2: Name one song in specific.
34:13
Speaker 1: That's the thing, shit. I know the beat. You don't
34:15
Speaker 1: know the name of the song? No.
34:17
Speaker 2: The one Auntie like, you don't know that?
34:19
Speaker 1: I like Lil Baby shit. You know what I'm saying?
34:21
Speaker 1: I don't be knowing the lyrics. Let me look at
34:23
Speaker 1: my playlist. My gym playlist I got.
34:26
Speaker 2: And maybe that's why I ain't got no nigga. You
34:28
Speaker 2: might be the music, might be right. Because I still love,
34:31
Speaker 2: I still will play real loud. What's this?
34:34
Speaker 1: Boom, boom, boom.
34:37
Speaker 2: The bass start like that?
34:38
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
34:38
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
34:39
Speaker 2: You don't know what I'm talking about?
34:40
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Keep it.
34:41
Speaker 2: You put your trust in the niggas through the hole
34:43
Speaker 2: how you figure.
34:45
Speaker 1: Those are great lyrics. Yeah, but- Very educational.
34:49
Speaker 2: It's still dark. It's not uplifting. It's divisive, for sure.
34:55
Speaker 2: It does not promote togetherness, but I still would throw
34:58
Speaker 2: that bitch on real quick.
35:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I guess maybe I don't really
35:03
Speaker 1: listen to songs that are that bad, per se. Shit.
35:07
Speaker 2: If you're listening, I know Kodak got some songs.
35:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't be knowing the lyrics for half that.
35:12
Speaker 1: I mean, not the lyrics. I know the lyrics, but
35:14
Speaker 1: I don't know the titles of half of these damn songs.
35:17
Speaker 1: But I do like to listen to songs about finessing.
35:20
Speaker 2: I feel like everybody- I love Kinderman and all her
35:22
Speaker 2: songs are very like.
35:23
Speaker 1: Fuck them niggas.
35:24
Speaker 2: Yes.
35:25
Speaker 1: Gemini.
35:26
Speaker 2: I love her.
35:27
Speaker 1: She a Gemini too.
35:28
Speaker 2: I love all her songs. Those are like, Kinderman is
35:31
Speaker 2: my gym go-to. I'm listening to her. I'm listening to
35:34
Speaker 2: Mona Leo.
35:36
Speaker 1: She's positive.
35:37
Speaker 2: But she got, what's the song? All the white folks
35:40
Speaker 2: to the back.
35:41
Speaker 1: Yeah.
35:41
Speaker 3: I love that song.
35:43
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't
35:45
Speaker 1: listen to, like, drill music. And some of these younger rappers,
35:48
Speaker 1: I don't know who the hell they are. My shit
35:49
Speaker 1: probably stops at Kodak Black and Lil Baby Generation. And
35:53
Speaker 1: they might be millennials.
35:54
Speaker 2: I was just listening to, like, even their love songs. Like,
35:58
Speaker 2: these young niggas, I was listening to this love song
36:00
Speaker 2: by G Herbo. And I guess you call it a
36:03
Speaker 2: love song. It was just so aggressive. And it just wasn't, like,
36:07
Speaker 2: no passion or romance. It's just no romance.
36:09
Speaker 1: What I don't like... From the younger generation of rappers
36:13
Speaker 1: is them taking our classics like Sade.
36:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a classic song too.
36:16
Speaker 1: No, hold on. Like the one nigga taking Sade and like,
36:20
Speaker 1: there must have been an angel by my side. There
36:23
Speaker 1: must have been an AK.
36:25
Speaker 2: What?
36:26
Speaker 1: You're making a love song about killing another man? Like
36:29
Speaker 1: y'all gay. Fuck are we talking about? Why would you
36:32
Speaker 1: take this classic?
36:33
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful song.
36:34
Speaker 1: And I commented on a nigga page. I said, no, period. Period.
36:37
Speaker 1: And he said, why? I said, nigga, you know why.
36:39
Speaker 1: Fuck out of here.
36:40
Speaker 2: What are you doing? He don't know.
36:41
Speaker 1: They do know why. Like, why are you fucking with
36:43
Speaker 1: this song? Like, y'all will take, everything is inverted in
36:47
Speaker 1: a negative way. Like, y'all will take the most positive
36:49
Speaker 1: songs and make it about killing somebody. That shit is
36:53
Speaker 1: fucking weird to me. So, I mean, young Miami song
36:56
Speaker 1: doesn't do that.
36:56
Speaker 2: And listen, they don't push, like when Lil Baby Hat
37:01
Speaker 2: is bigger than black and white, they did not push
37:03
Speaker 2: that song. And they didn't push it on purpose.
37:06
Speaker 1: No, and it was a good song.
37:07
Speaker 2: And it was a good song.
37:09
Speaker 1: God wrote some of Lil Baby music. Like, I don't
37:12
Speaker 1: know if he came up with some of them lyrics, man.
37:14
Speaker 2: You said God wrote it?
37:15
Speaker 1: Yes!
37:15
Speaker 2: I've been writing most of this shit. But I really
37:20
Speaker 2: feel like they didn't push it because... It's too positive. Yeah,
37:23
Speaker 2: it's too positive. And if someone like Lil Baby is
37:25
Speaker 2: creating positive music and they latch on to it, and
37:29
Speaker 2: it starts like a cultural shift, a paradigm shift of sorts...
37:33
Speaker 2: That's not what they want.
37:35
Speaker 1: They want us to kill each other. Did his career
37:37
Speaker 1: kind of go down after that?
37:39
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't feel like he... I don't
37:41
Speaker 2: know if we just aged out.
37:45
Speaker 1: I think Lil Baby just came out with an album.
37:46
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying that.
37:48
Speaker 2: I don't know.
37:48
Speaker 1: And, you know, people not really listening. Well, I haven't
37:51
Speaker 1: listened to it. Now, I would say, like, even Gucci Mane.
37:53
Speaker 1: Gucci Mane came out with one of the best albums,
37:55
Speaker 1: hands down, last year. November, October, somewhere around then. I
38:00
Speaker 1: didn't start listening until, like, March. Really? Yes. I don't
38:03
Speaker 1: even listen to Gucci Mane. When I tell y'all Gucci Mane.
38:06
Speaker 2: You used to listen to all Gucci though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:09
Speaker 1: But not a whole album. I listen to all the singles,
38:12
Speaker 1: all the singles you love. You know what I'm saying?
38:14
Speaker 1: I'm talking about song for song. Gucci had one of
38:17
Speaker 1: the best albums last year. This year, Wale.
38:20
Speaker 2: Wale. I was about to say Wale.
38:21
Speaker 1: Shit.
38:22
Speaker 2: That's Wale.
38:23
Speaker 1: I watched him at the BET Awards and I was so.
38:25
Speaker 2: I've loved Wale since forever. He is so underrated.
38:28
Speaker 1: Yeah.
38:28
Speaker 2: He don't get the flowers he deserves.
38:30
Speaker 1: And it is almost likened to... Did you ever watch
38:33
Speaker 1: Kanye West's documentary he had on Netflix that time? I
38:36
Speaker 1: forgot the name of it.
38:36
Speaker 2: No.
38:37
Speaker 1: Maybe it was Through the Wire is what the name
38:39
Speaker 1: of it was. I saw that. And, you know, he
38:41
Speaker 1: had footage. He had somebody with him with a camera
38:44
Speaker 1: for many years. And he had footage in the studio
38:47
Speaker 1: with Jay-Z and all that. And they was all acting
38:49
Speaker 1: like he wasn't who the fuck he was. And I
38:51
Speaker 1: feel like. You know, he had to say, fuck y'all
38:54
Speaker 1: and be the God that he is. And I just
38:55
Speaker 1: feel like that's what Wale needs to get to that
38:57
Speaker 1: place that I think he's very insecure. I think he's
38:59
Speaker 1: a cancer. So I think he's like, he cares about
39:02
Speaker 1: what people... Look, man, you better tap in, bitch. He
39:07
Speaker 1: need to tap in. He cares about what his peers think. Nigga,
39:10
Speaker 1: you're great. You are better.
39:12
Speaker 2: If you ever hear this, Wale, that album you put out.
39:16
Speaker 1: He's better than most of these rappers out here. I
39:19
Speaker 1: had a whole argument with one of my homegirl's best friend,
39:22
Speaker 1: because I'm like, she's like a super Jay-Z fan, right?
39:25
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Jay-Z is not the best lyricist to me.
39:29
Speaker 1: If we're talking about rapping and lyricism and actual meaningful
39:33
Speaker 1: articulation of culture, life, and all that shit, it's not
39:38
Speaker 1: Jay-Z for me. 444, yes, I related to that album
39:41
Speaker 1: as some grown adult shit.
39:44
Speaker 2: I mean, he has been a storyteller with his music, though.
39:47
Speaker 2: He is one of the greatest.
39:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is, but not the greatest.
39:51
Speaker 2: So who is the greatest to you, then? I like
39:55
Speaker 2: Kanye West.
39:56
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I'm a big Kanye West fan.
39:57
Speaker 1: I like Kendrick Lamar.
39:58
Speaker 2: So you think Kanye tells stories?
39:59
Speaker 1: Wale. No, it's just different. That's what I'm saying. To
40:02
Speaker 1: compare one to the other is just, it's too much
40:05
Speaker 1: nuance and it's just different. It's just different. All these
40:09
Speaker 1: people are different. Their messages are different. Flow, all that shit,
40:14
Speaker 1: just the energy behind the music is just different.
40:16
Speaker 2: Did we have B.Dot on?
40:19
Speaker 1: I think he was supposed to. I don't think he,
40:21
Speaker 1: did he?
40:22
Speaker 2: I feel like we should bring him back if he
40:24
Speaker 2: didn't already come on the show. I feel like we
40:26
Speaker 2: need to bring him back.
40:26
Speaker 1: What, to have this conversation? Yes. I think we did
40:28
Speaker 1: do an episode on Virtue.
40:29
Speaker 2: He does his rap review. And, like, people care.
40:33
Speaker 1: Or Nyla.
40:34
Speaker 2: Nyla, too.
40:35
Speaker 1: Nyla would be excellent.
40:37
Speaker 2: To discuss these things with because I'm not the perfect
40:40
Speaker 2: person for it.
40:40
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you got a perspective. I
40:44
Speaker 1: do have a.
40:44
Speaker 2: Perspective, but I just feel like I'm not a hip-hop,
40:49
Speaker 2: what is it, aficionado, is that the word?
40:57
Speaker 1: All right, so the supporters of Spin That perspective is
41:03
Speaker 1: rap has always included exaggerated storytelling and criminal themes. Male
41:08
Speaker 1: rappers have made songs about hustling, drug dealing, and scams
41:12
Speaker 1: for decades with far less backlash. The criticism of Young
41:17
Speaker 1: Miami reflects a double standard for women in hip hop.
41:19
Speaker 1: I agree with that. The song is simply a club
41:22
Speaker 1: anthem and not a guide for how to live, okay?
41:26
Speaker 1: And young Miami, she has not provided any perspective on
41:30
Speaker 1: anything y'all niggas think. Like, she like, my song is hitting.
41:33
Speaker 1: We can't expect these people to have all this social responsibility. Right.
41:38
Speaker 2: And when I'm like, if shit is fucked up in
41:40
Speaker 2: the world, I don't be like, what is young Miami
41:42
Speaker 2: thinking right now?
41:43
Speaker 1: Like, or Cardi B for that matter.
41:45
Speaker 2: Or any of them. I'm not, you know, like, they're
41:47
Speaker 2: not my go-to for my decisions on real life.
41:50
Speaker 1: Right.
41:54
Speaker 2: Um.
41:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she hasn't apologized, which I don't think there's
41:58
Speaker 1: anything to apologize for. Rap has been outlandished for a
42:04
Speaker 1: very fucking long time. But when women start doing things,
42:07
Speaker 1: because a society, a nation is only as good as
42:10
Speaker 1: the women, this is when people get up in arms
42:14
Speaker 1: about shit. And also because how big the record is.
42:17
Speaker 1: So black people, they already... White people have convinced the
42:20
Speaker 1: entire world that we do all the shit that they
42:22
Speaker 1: actually be doing. So here it is. We're outright saying
42:27
Speaker 1: the scamming shit. Like, I like gray area shit. I
42:30
Speaker 1: like a little mortgage fraud bait. I don't like how
42:33
Speaker 1: black people got to put everything on a podcast, everything
42:36
Speaker 1: in a song that we doing.
42:38
Speaker 2: Like the girls that was stealing those bags and they
42:41
Speaker 2: posted a video with the bags.
42:44
Speaker 1: Even down to business credit, why the fuck is that
42:47
Speaker 1: on a podcast about how to, you know, do the
42:49
Speaker 1: little greary, finessey little things that white folks have always
42:52
Speaker 1: been doing because they built the system? Why are we,
42:55
Speaker 1: we cannot ever do anything in silence. Which leads us,
43:00
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about now, Saucy Santana, Quiet on the Creek.
43:06
Speaker 1: Why is he not getting as much backlash? Because to me,
43:09
Speaker 1: that song is also about scamming. But to me, in
43:13
Speaker 1: a more.
43:14
Speaker 2: Sexual manner.
43:15
Speaker 1: No, dangerous manner. To me, Young Miami's song is not
43:19
Speaker 1: promoting killing anybody. And this might be very controversial.
43:23
Speaker 2: He's not promoting killing nobody.
43:26
Speaker 1: DL men are killing black women. Let's be clear. Okay?
43:31
Speaker 1: The reason why HIV is very high amongst black women
43:34
Speaker 1: in particular is because black men are very promiscuous with
43:39
Speaker 1: women and men. Not all, but a good bit. It's
43:43
Speaker 1: a culture. The DL culture is a real thing.
43:48
Speaker 2: It is.
43:48
Speaker 1: And we're not going to pretend like it's not.
43:50
Speaker 2: I can't.
43:50
Speaker 1: So now you have an outward gay man creating a
43:53
Speaker 1: song called Quiet on the Creep, talking about how he
43:56
Speaker 1: a capper, but he spend that bag. Shit like that.
43:59
Speaker 1: We're not going to act like we don't know what
44:03
Speaker 1: Saucy Santana. And it's a catchy song.
44:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.
44:06
Speaker 1: But why isn't he getting backlash like Young Miami's getting?
44:09
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good question.
44:12
Speaker 1: Is it because it's a man? doing it you see
44:17
Speaker 1: because that shit is detrimental to the community is also
44:21
Speaker 1: you know what also.
44:22
Speaker 2: The song is very new let's see what happens because
44:24
Speaker 2: it ain't as big as i think if it got
44:26
Speaker 2: to the level that spin that got to it we.
44:30
Speaker 1: Might it's platinum on tiktok it's platinum on instagram it's
44:33
Speaker 1: platinum on facebook right is it on the billboard you
44:36
Speaker 1: seen spin that on a billboard Yeah, she was, like.
44:39
Speaker 2: She got up there. Like, she got, like, they were
44:41
Speaker 2: trying to keep up.
44:42
Speaker 1: Oh, that's, oh, you mean, like, I mean, like, a billboard.
44:44
Speaker 1: You're talking about billboard, like, music billboard.
44:46
Speaker 2: Yeah.
44:46
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it could be heading there. It's a
44:49
Speaker 1: very catchy song.
44:50
Speaker 2: So, I think that's when people might start having something
44:52
Speaker 2: to say.
44:53
Speaker 1: Really?
44:53
Speaker 2: Because that's what they waited for when she started, like,
44:56
Speaker 2: doing numbers. That's when they start having problems.
44:58
Speaker 1: I feel like that song was doing numbers out of
45:00
Speaker 1: the gate.
45:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when they start getting really big, you know,
45:03
Speaker 2: that's when they started having something to say. And I
45:05
Speaker 2: don't think Saucy Santana's song has made it that far yet.
45:08
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
45:10
Speaker 1: We'll see. I just, I can't stand the double standard.
45:14
Speaker 2: I thought the song was about fishing. That's how I
45:16
Speaker 2: know I don't be. Apparently it is.
45:19
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he would say that he'd explain that literally came,
45:23
Speaker 1: the song literally came from childhood when he would go
45:26
Speaker 1: fishing with his uncle and his uncle would be like
45:28
Speaker 1: quiet on the creek. Like you gotta be quiet so
45:30
Speaker 1: you can catch the fish. He turned that into, to me,
45:34
Speaker 1: creek is creep.
45:36
Speaker 2: Right?
45:37
Speaker 1: I don't know when DL, down low, because a number
45:39
Speaker 1: of people used to be like, girl, keep down to
45:40
Speaker 1: down low, don't tell nobody. But now, I guess, down
45:43
Speaker 1: low is damn near exclusive, exclusively to down low DL men. No,
45:49
Speaker 1: trade is actually a gay man who just doesn't present
45:52
Speaker 1: as super flamboyant. He's gay, though. He's just not out
45:55
Speaker 1: here telling everybody he's gay. Down low are men who
45:58
Speaker 1: got families, kids... and maybe dibbling and dabbling on the side.
46:03
Speaker 1: When we did the trade show, an episode with an
46:06
Speaker 1: openly gay man, one of my friends who's, he's bisexual essentially,
46:11
Speaker 1: but he was supposed to do the episode, I don't
46:13
Speaker 1: know how many times, but he told me the reason
46:15
Speaker 1: why he didn't is because he was actively in a
46:17
Speaker 1: relationship with a man, a nigga who was on a DL,
46:22
Speaker 1: who was also like controlling what he can do. Like
46:24
Speaker 1: how the fuck you controlling two households, one man, one woman, like.
46:29
Speaker 2: Well, that's not uncommon.
46:31
Speaker 1: Jeez, let me tell you.
46:33
Speaker 2: It's not uncommon.
46:34
Speaker 1: Just tell people who the fuck you are. DL culture
46:38
Speaker 1: does not need to exist. You have to be honest
46:40
Speaker 1: with yourself. And we had a whole episode. I feel
46:44
Speaker 1: like people, for whatever reason, women get blamed for everything.
46:49
Speaker 1: We get blamed for having gay men as friends. But
46:52
Speaker 1: men are actively sleeping with the men. And these are
46:55
Speaker 1: also still men. So why are women even in the
46:58
Speaker 1: topic of discussion?
46:59
Speaker 2: And the thing is, we love our kids. We love
47:01
Speaker 2: our sons. We love.
47:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are the nurturers. So however you come, like
47:05
Speaker 1: you're going to get love from a woman. Like we
47:08
Speaker 1: birthed these men, but they actually came out of your
47:10
Speaker 1: nuts first. So who you mad at? That gay ass sperm.
47:20
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn. It's the truth. And I
47:22
Speaker 1: feel like in society, we don't like the truth. We
47:25
Speaker 1: don't like for people to tell you who you are
47:27
Speaker 1: to your face. You just want to hide and creep
47:29
Speaker 1: and do low slick shit. And when somebody find out
47:32
Speaker 1: you want to kill him, that's the pussy shit. Yeah.
47:35
Speaker 3: That part.
47:36
Speaker 1: Now that's the, that's the bitch ass shit.
47:39
Speaker 2: Be yourself. Don't hurt nobody because your truth came out.
47:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, Saucy Santana is an outwardly gay man. I think
47:45
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of support from heterosexual men and
47:49
Speaker 1: gay men. The trades, everybody. Saucy Santana is funny as fuck.
47:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love Saucy.
47:54
Speaker 1: Saucy Santana is funny, but I just want to understand
47:57
Speaker 1: why Carisha is getting so much.
48:02
Speaker 2: More hate for her song. It's because she doing well.
48:06
Speaker 1: I don't listen to the radio, so I haven't heard
48:08
Speaker 1: Quiet on the Creek on the radio yet. I think
48:11
Speaker 1: the song is like, what, two weeks old now right now?
48:14
Speaker 2: I don't know.
48:15
Speaker 1: But every reel on Instagram is.
48:18
Speaker 3: Quiet on the Creek.
48:19
Speaker 2: And I love that for saucy.
48:21
Speaker 1: Quiet on the Creek. All right.
48:24
Speaker 2: Critical thinking. Huh?
48:27
Speaker 1: You got that on here. Where did that come from?
48:30
Speaker 2: That's it. It's on here.
48:32
Speaker 1: Finish these statements.
48:34
Speaker 2: If your favorite song was admitted... into evidence what girl
48:39
Speaker 2: what you put on him.
48:42
Speaker 1: I don't even get it if my favorite song was
48:45
Speaker 1: admitted into evidence it would probably be some scam shit
48:48
Speaker 1: it would probably be like a good like a little
48:53
Speaker 1: blend of party and like some bad shit selling pussy
48:59
Speaker 1: shit mine would be like on.
49:03
Speaker 2: Snapped you like killing niggas Like, some woman that killed
49:07
Speaker 2: a man.
49:08
Speaker 1: And rapped about it?
49:09
Speaker 2: The song, like, you know, like, I just said Kaya.
49:12
Speaker 2: She was listening to that on the way to, like.
49:15
Speaker 1: Oh, what's the dude, the big boy? The biggest, the largest,
49:18
Speaker 1: but he got the new song where he. like big
49:20
Speaker 1: extra plug thinking he caught his girlfriend cheating and he
49:24
Speaker 1: got the Ronald Isley beat it's 2am but he like
49:28
Speaker 1: it didn't really happen he was hallucinating that his girl
49:30
Speaker 1: was cheating but the whole thing was storytelling him pulling
49:33
Speaker 1: up and hair moaning and shooting his girlfriend but then
49:36
Speaker 1: he woke up it wasn't even real.
49:39
Speaker 2: Glad that nigga woke up. That's scary. That's one of
49:43
Speaker 2: my biggest fears, though.
49:44
Speaker 1: I don't want to.
49:46
Speaker 3: Go out like that.
49:47
Speaker 1: Right? The worst advice I've ever learned from music was?
49:52
Speaker 2: The worst advice? Bitches ain't shit, but hoes are.
50:00
Speaker 1: That is not the worst advice. That's terrible.
50:03
Speaker 2: It is. Because that's not true.
50:04
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not a bitch, so I'm not the whole auditory.
50:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, but some men would look at all of us
50:10
Speaker 2: as bitches. Not on an individual basis, but in general.
50:14
Speaker 2: Ain't that what Cat Williams said?
50:16
Speaker 1: Right.
50:17
Speaker 2: So.
50:18
Speaker 3: Yeah.
50:20
Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever let that affect me.
50:23
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess.
50:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel like none of that shit really...
50:30
Speaker 2: Because I separate music from my reality.
50:32
Speaker 1: Right. But there's a lot of people who don't because
50:34
Speaker 1: I do think that men rapping, they created ho culture.
50:39
Speaker 1: They created the hoochie culture. All that shit. Like, yes,
50:42
Speaker 1: people was always doing like little creepy, little nasty shit.
50:45
Speaker 1: But like to be outright, like body suits, your titties
50:48
Speaker 1: out like you're in a music video. The way shit
50:50
Speaker 1: is now. Like y'all created the ho. And now y'all
50:53
Speaker 1: mad at the ho.
50:54
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
50:55
Speaker 1: Do y'all secretly want to be the hoe? I think
50:57
Speaker 1: niggas got pussy.
50:58
Speaker 2: They are the hoe. They were the original hoes, you know?
51:02
Speaker 1: And they mad because women are no longer like adopting
51:06
Speaker 1: the behavior. Yeah. And I don't think that's not, that's
51:08
Speaker 1: not our right place though. We should never stoop down
51:11
Speaker 1: to a man's level of being because we are supposed
51:14
Speaker 1: to be better. We are, we just better. We supposed
51:17
Speaker 1: to be better. So now they try to lump us
51:20
Speaker 1: all in. So now, All the women are bitches and hoes,
51:23
Speaker 1: and I guess their daughters and moms and sisters are exempt?
51:27
Speaker 1: Hell no. If I'm a hoe, your mom is a hoe.
51:31
Speaker 2: The biggest scam people willingly participate in? The American economy
51:36
Speaker 2: and government.
51:37
Speaker 1: Shit. Student loans. College.
51:39
Speaker 2: All of that shit.
51:41
Speaker 3: Mortgage.
51:43
Speaker 1: Like, these things are way bigger than doing some credit
51:46
Speaker 1: card scam.
51:46
Speaker 2: That's the biggest scam is America.
51:48
Speaker 1: The whole life. Yeah. Whole life is a scam.
51:51
Speaker 2: Every time I have to give you money to pay
51:53
Speaker 2: a bill, that shit never sits right. $ 3.
51:56
Speaker 1: 50.
51:57
Speaker 2: $ 4. 95 to pay you.
51:59
Speaker 3: 3%.
51:59
Speaker 1: That's fucking stupid.
52:01
Speaker 2: Or iPhone. I have to get another phone over time.
52:06
Speaker 2: Why do I have to?
52:07
Speaker 1: I want to have a whole other, I don't know
52:10
Speaker 1: what kind of guests we can have on, but I
52:13
Speaker 1: want to talk about, you know, because just think about it.
52:16
Speaker 1: The symbol for the iPhone is a bitten apple the
52:21
Speaker 1: prefer the forbidden fruit adam and eve and it's the
52:26
Speaker 1: iphone like last week he was like they want to
52:28
Speaker 1: chip us they that is the chip for sure.
52:31
Speaker 2: But i could throw this out the window.
52:33
Speaker 1: Can you you're gonna be on camera somewhere all of
52:35
Speaker 1: this shit is now like your watch but if i
52:38
Speaker 1: wanted to.
52:39
Speaker 2: If i wanted to disconnect i could you know Do
52:43
Speaker 2: you want to?
52:44
Speaker 1: No. We're all tethered. No, I don't. That's what I'm saying.
52:47
Speaker 2: Somebody took my phone from me. It's a fight.
52:49
Speaker 1: This is bigger than crack. This is bigger than cocaine.
52:52
Speaker 1: It is so hard to disconnect.
52:54
Speaker 2: If you wanted to, you could. I just don't want to.
52:56
Speaker 1: It's tough, man. I have tried to go days without.
52:59
Speaker 1: I guess nowadays I am on social media less, but
53:02
Speaker 1: then when I finally get it, it's like I'm waiting
53:05
Speaker 1: all day to get on there. When I get on there,
53:07
Speaker 1: I spend... All night on there.
53:09
Speaker 2: Scrolling. You be watching dumb.
53:10
Speaker 1: Catching up.
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Speaker 2: Watching dumb shit, too. Like, I love rug cleanings.
53:15
Speaker 1: Oh, yes. The dirtiest ones.
53:16
Speaker 2: Like, how does it get that dirty?
53:18
Speaker 1: Pimple popping. Oh, love it. I actually like the coochie ones.
53:22
Speaker 1: I like to see the, literally yesterday, you know, you
53:24
Speaker 1: only see the sides, though. But it be like big
53:27
Speaker 1: balls of hair coming out of some people's crotch. And
53:32
Speaker 1: yesterday I bought a grooming kit with the little needle in.
53:35
Speaker 1: Because I got a couple blackheads. Too much. See? Too much.
53:40
Speaker 1: Next thing.
53:42
Speaker 2: The biggest flex today isn't spending money.
53:45
Speaker 1: The biggest flex today isn't spending money.
53:48
Speaker 2: It's what?
53:50
Speaker 1: Acting like you got money.
53:53
Speaker 2: No, the flex. Like, a real flex. Like, that's a
53:58
Speaker 2: real flex.
53:59
Speaker 1: Oh, health. Health is the biggest flex. Being old and
54:02
Speaker 1: looking young is a big ass flex. The goal is
54:05
Speaker 1: to get old, but we want to look.
54:06
Speaker 2: Truly being at peace.
54:08
Speaker 1: Yes.
54:09
Speaker 2: That's the flex.
54:10
Speaker 1: Yes.
54:10
Speaker 2: You just peaceful no matter what. Can't nobody rattle you.
54:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.
54:14
Speaker 2: No reason, nothing or nobody. Yes. You're living in a
54:17
Speaker 2: Zen life and I'm jealous.
54:19
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Some of this shit I
54:22
Speaker 1: got on here and I got into a whole nother
54:24
Speaker 1: something else shot. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck
54:26
Speaker 1: this shit say. All kind of shit. But yeah, I
54:31
Speaker 1: really just wanted to just, you know, give our opinion, right?
54:36
Speaker 1: You know, we are entitled to that on the Young
54:40
Speaker 1: Miami Spin That Shit because I love the album. I
54:45
Speaker 1: do think that People should have more social responsibility for,
54:50
Speaker 1: you know, society. But you cannot, that's a high expectation
54:55
Speaker 1: to have out of somebody who, you know, a lot
54:57
Speaker 1: of these people who actually make it to these levels
54:59
Speaker 1: of success, they come from the fucking slums, from the hood.
55:02
Speaker 1: Some of them are willing to do any and everything,
55:05
Speaker 1: never to go back there. So you can't count on
55:08
Speaker 1: them to have integrity there. to even give a fuck
55:11
Speaker 1: about how they're affecting the community. They're only concerned about
55:15
Speaker 1: their immediate, you know, household and family.
55:18
Speaker 2: Well, I do think that's something that we as Black
55:20
Speaker 2: people need to find a way to get away from
55:22
Speaker 2: because our parents and our parents' parents who had less
55:25
Speaker 2: than us did, you know, prioritize community a bit more
55:29
Speaker 2: than we do, you know? So that's unfortunate. But, I mean,
55:33
Speaker 2: she from Dade County, Miami, like, This is what she knew.
55:37
Speaker 1: She's singing about what the fuck she seen. And that's
55:39
Speaker 1: what rap has always been.
55:40
Speaker 2: Storytelling.
55:41
Speaker 1: JT went to prison for a year and some change
55:44
Speaker 1: for stealing. Like, Carisha ain't even the one who was
55:46
Speaker 1: doing the stealing, but she get to make a song,
55:47
Speaker 1: a hit song about it. She ain't even the one
55:50
Speaker 1: who did the time behind the shit. Well, that's all
55:52
Speaker 1: it was about doing time. That's all it was about. Right.
55:55
Speaker 1: Maybe the bitch ain't never get caught. That ain't her fault.
56:03
Speaker 2: Alright, what's your last name?
56:06
Speaker 1: Um, parents or children, it is not anybody else's responsibility
56:11
Speaker 1: to do so. If you're looking for artists in any
56:15
Speaker 1: capacity to educate your kids, you are sadly mistaken. I
56:19
Speaker 1: do not think it's their responsibility. It's 100% the parents' responsibility.
56:24
Speaker 1: If the artists themselves, Young Miami, can say, hell no,
56:28
Speaker 1: my baby ain't about to be a city girl. My
56:29
Speaker 1: baby gonna be a college girl. You should do the
56:32
Speaker 1: same and make sure that they do not have, um,
56:36
Speaker 1: They don't have access to this shit. You know what
56:38
Speaker 1: I'm saying? It's up to you. It's not up to
56:40
Speaker 1: the artist. It's just not. There are some who have,
56:44
Speaker 1: they take social responsibility seriously and there's some that aren't.
56:47
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, the music that gets put out oftentimes is
56:51
Speaker 1: the most detrimental to the community. It just is. And
56:55
Speaker 1: I don't think that one song, I don't think NDRR
56:58
Speaker 1: was calling for a boycott. I think they were saying like.
57:02
Speaker 2: Don't push the song to be on.
57:04
Speaker 1: It's too late. Some things just have a life of
57:07
Speaker 1: its own. You know what I'm saying? So yes, we
57:09
Speaker 1: know there's a mechanism, but that is a, it's a
57:11
Speaker 1: little bit of crack. in Spin That. There's a little
57:14
Speaker 1: bit of crack in that song. There's something in that shit.
57:16
Speaker 1: There's something in that fucking song. It's not the lyrics,
57:19
Speaker 1: because the lyrics ain't where the damn, it's the fucking beat.
57:21
Speaker 2: And like, even old ass people, my mom be like.
57:24
Speaker 1: Spin that shit. Spin that shit. It's about to be 70. Yeah.
57:28
Speaker 2: It's just very catchy. It's a little gram.
57:31
Speaker 1: Yeah. A little gram of crack in there. We love it.
57:33
Speaker 1: We're proud of you. So keep doing your thing, girl.
57:35
Speaker 2: Because, all right, let's be clear. Young Miami just had
57:38
Speaker 2: like a rough couple of years now.
57:39
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
57:40
Speaker 2: She did.
57:41
Speaker 1: She did.
57:41
Speaker 2: And we got to witness that. So we love witnessing
57:43
Speaker 2: the glow up and the goodness and all the energy
57:46
Speaker 2: that's coming.
57:46
Speaker 1: That's a whole nother part. That's a whole nother part
57:49
Speaker 1: of this conversation. We ain't get into it.
57:51
Speaker 2: It's too late, bitch. So don't even try to start.
57:53
Speaker 2: You ain't excused.
57:56
Speaker 1: We know what you did last summer and some before last.
57:59
Speaker 2: I don't know shit.
58:00
Speaker 1: That pink powder. That's some pooly shit. I'm sorry, y'all.
58:07
Speaker 2: All I know is I'm proud of her right now.
58:09
Speaker 2: And I want her to have all the wins. You know,
58:11
Speaker 2: we all go through peaks and valleys. This is like
58:13
Speaker 2: one of her peaks, man. More power to you.
58:16
Speaker 1: Y'all need to put your expectations down a little bit.
58:18
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
58:20
Speaker 2: Of other people.
58:21
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. Absolutely. That's your last laugh? Shut up, bitch.
58:26
Speaker 1: All right, y'all. If you enjoyed this episode, y'all tune
58:28
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58:30
Speaker 1: fuck you get your podcasts at. This is your co-host
58:33
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58:37
Speaker 2: All right, y'all. Kick it, Tam.
58:38
Speaker 1: Kick it, Tam. I thought you only wanted me to
58:41
Speaker 1: give you an introduction.
58:42
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting for you to say it.
58:43
Speaker 1: Kick it, Tam.
58:44
Speaker 2: That part.
58:44
Speaker 1: All right, y'all.
58:45
Speaker 2: It's official Tam Bam on Instagram. Y'all follow me there.
58:47
Speaker 2: I love y'all so much. AJ appreciates y'all so much.
58:50
Speaker 1: Girl, you don't got to speak for me. These niggas
58:52
Speaker 1: know what time it is.
58:53
Speaker 2: She appreciate y'all. Anyway, speak now.
58:58
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought he was supposed to do
59:01
Speaker 1: this backwards. Okay, go ahead. Speak now. Hold your money.
59:06
Speaker 2: Don't spend it. Save it. Save that. Period.
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