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O's West Coast trip starts on a sour note and have Dodgers looming · Birdland Territory

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  Speaker 1: Birdland. This was not to start to the road trip
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  Speaker 1: the Orioles wanted. They lose today. We're taping this after
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  Speaker 1: the game Thursday three nothing to the Mariners. Finally they
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  Speaker 1: are shut out. They were the last major league team
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  Speaker 1: to be shut out this year. That's not gonna make
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  Speaker 1: anybody in Mirdland feel only better about this one. As
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  Speaker 1: the oil offense came up well short in Seattle. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get to that in just a minute. I want
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  Speaker 1: to start with a positive because there is a positive
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  Speaker 1: believe it or not here And maybe no one noticed this,
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  Speaker 1: but me keeping all my stats here that the Orioles
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  Speaker 1: for the first time this year have had four straight
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  Speaker 1: quality starts as they have rolled off a run here
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  Speaker 1: from Trevor Rodgers on to Brandon Young, Kyle bradish.
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  Speaker 2: Dealt last night, Bozz today.
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  Speaker 1: Good after the first those four four straight quality starts
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  Speaker 1: three point zero four ERA, But guys, they're wasting good pitching.
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  Speaker 1: Those four pitchers allowed to in row runs, three earned runs,
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  Speaker 1: one earned run, and three earned runs and the team
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  Speaker 1: won one of those games. So it is something to
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  Speaker 1: build on. But man, it's been a rough stretch for
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  Speaker 1: the hitters.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a you know.
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  Speaker 4: The positive I will take from that is that if
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  Speaker 4: you're going to go on a long run, you need
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  Speaker 4: quality starting pitching. And to me, they're starting to get that.
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  Speaker 4: We had talked about this back in April May, that
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  Speaker 4: the starting pitching was really consistent, not giving them a
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  Speaker 4: chance to get a lead and hold a lead. They've
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  Speaker 4: been getting the pitching, and I kind of look across
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  Speaker 4: the field during this series. Seattle got off to a
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  Speaker 4: real bad start, but they knew they were going to
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  Speaker 4: have their starting pitching coming back, and now look at them.
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  Speaker 4: To me, that is a World Series contending team with
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  Speaker 4: that starting rotation, and if they can get their back
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  Speaker 4: end both arms going, that team is going to contend
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  Speaker 4: for the World Series. So it gives you hope after
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  Speaker 4: watching that series with what is maybe to come if
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  Speaker 4: they can keep the starting pitching going.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously we know we need the offense to get going.
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  Speaker 4: But I'd say that was a real big positive, is
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  Speaker 4: that the starting pitching is really right there, and they've
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  Speaker 4: been perform over the last even not just the four games,
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  Speaker 4: but I feel like the last three or four weeks
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  Speaker 4: they've been really really good.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, you can say four of the five guys are
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  Speaker 5: really trending in a positive direction. You know, Trevor Rodgers,
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  Speaker 5: I know we talked about him on Sunday, but you
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  Speaker 5: can look at his past four starts. He's got an
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  Speaker 5: ERA of a three to eight in that span. You
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  Speaker 5: will absolutely take that considering the rough patch that he
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  Speaker 5: had before. Then Brandon Young on Tuesday, he did not
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  Speaker 5: have his a game. He fell behind in the count
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  Speaker 5: a lot. But what's the sign of a good pitcher,
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  Speaker 5: you know, not having your top stuff, but still grinding
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  Speaker 5: it out and keeping your team in the ballgame. And
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  Speaker 5: that's exactly what Brandon Young did. Kyle Bradish was just
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  Speaker 5: absolutely filthy yesterday. He was spectacular in that game. He
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  Speaker 5: got eighteen swings and misses in fifteen on the slider
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  Speaker 5: and the curveball in particular. And Brad It's something that
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  Speaker 5: we've talked about a lot because I feel like for
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  Speaker 5: the past month and a half, the Orioles have had
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  Speaker 5: this situation of playing the same team and back to
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  Speaker 5: back weeks, and this was the case with the Mariners
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  Speaker 5: and Bradish. You look at that start last week where
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  Speaker 5: it was not a good start for Kyle Bradish. He
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  Speaker 5: got I believe three swings and misses between his slider
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  Speaker 5: and curveball, and he got fifteen yesterday and and a
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  Speaker 5: career high twelve strikeouts. And then you look at today
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  Speaker 5: guys Shane Bose. It was an unfortunate first inning, all
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  Speaker 5: three runs came with two outs, but then for him
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  Speaker 5: to buckle in and then go scoreless and keep them
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  Speaker 5: in the ballgame, deliver that quality star at seven innings
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  Speaker 5: of three run ball, Yeah, you feel really good about
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  Speaker 5: where this starting pitching is heading.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think when I look at that Kyle
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  Speaker 4: Bradis star yesterday, that was some of the nastiest stuff
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  Speaker 4: we've seen.
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  Speaker 3: This year period.
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  Speaker 4: From I mean any baseball I've watched, I've never seen
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  Speaker 4: swing the missus as bad as he was getting yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: So really awesome yesterday. I mean it was elite stuff
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  Speaker 4: getting ahead with this ball, and then he was just
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  Speaker 4: playing with them. They're swing at these brig balls in
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  Speaker 4: the dirt, and then he's using the fastball to freeze
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  Speaker 4: and when they're looking for the off speed that's going
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  Speaker 4: to be in the dirt. I mean, to have stuff
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  Speaker 4: like that at the major league level, to have make
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  Speaker 4: guys look that bad, his stuff must have just been
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  Speaker 4: absolutely ridiculous to try to hit yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: You know, even a team that's struggling like the Orioles are,
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  Speaker 1: when you got a pitcher going like that, that's like
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  Speaker 1: must see TV. You're, oh, Bradishes, back out, I'm sitting
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  Speaker 1: down here. You want to see what he's going to
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  Speaker 1: do next. It's fun to watch dominate. You go back
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  Speaker 1: to these Clemmens games and even go back to Bob
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  Speaker 1: Gibson for people in my generation to watch these guys
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  Speaker 1: just blow everybody away. And he wasn't doing that, but
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  Speaker 1: he was just throwing good velocity, his usual two seamer.
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  Speaker 1: And was that one of those games they say sometimes
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  Speaker 1: the starting pitcher has like five that are going to
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  Speaker 1: be really bad, five that are going to be top shelf,
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  Speaker 1: and then you figure it out in the rest.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that was one of the top shelf nights.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was definitely one of his top five outings
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  Speaker 4: for the year. You just know when you go out there,
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  Speaker 4: you're not going to get hit, and you could tell
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  Speaker 4: he was. I feel like in the first couple innings
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  Speaker 4: he had a little bit of trouble locating his fastball
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  Speaker 4: kind of died in it, but then from there he
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  Speaker 4: got really like I said, some really bad swings of
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  Speaker 4: misses on his breaking ball, and then he was just
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  Speaker 4: toying with them with the fastball. Oh yeah, and then
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  Speaker 4: it's ninety five to ninety seven coming at you. And
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  Speaker 4: it's just it's got to be impossible all nights like
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  Speaker 4: that to hit guys like him with to have the
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  Speaker 4: stuff that he has.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we know that.
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  Speaker 5: This isn't going to be linear for Kyle Bradish. And
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  Speaker 5: he had two poor starts prior to that one, and
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  Speaker 5: at that point it looked like he was back to
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  Speaker 5: being Kyle Bradish. But it's important to remember this is
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  Speaker 5: his first full season coming back from Tommy John. But
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  Speaker 5: that was one of the better starts of his career.
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  Speaker 5: And this is someone that finished top five in cy
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  Speaker 5: Young voting in twenty twenty three. It was his deepest
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  Speaker 5: start since September twenty six, twenty twenty three, the career
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  Speaker 5: high twelve rikeouts. But it's also what Brad was saying,
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  Speaker 5: Like you think of the couple of at bats that
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  Speaker 5: Julio Rodriguez had against Kyle Bradish, there was one in
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  Speaker 5: which he swung at I think the ball bounced three
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  Speaker 5: feet in front of home plate and he's still swung
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  Speaker 5: at it, and even Holio is like, oh my gosh, He's
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  Speaker 5: given him like a look of like wow, man, like
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  Speaker 5: you really got it tonight. And it's a great sign man,
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  Speaker 5: because when Bradish is on like that, that is ace
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  Speaker 5: level stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Fun to watch. But the Orioles are still losing. Why
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  Speaker 1: is that you're screaming at your screen right now your device? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we know too, and we're gonna get into some of
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  Speaker 1: that at a minute. Some other topics coming up later
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  Speaker 1: on this show. We'll talk about Ryan Helsley's return, what
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  Speaker 1: it could mean for the bullpen. We'll talk about a
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  Speaker 1: very challenging weekend ahead the O's at Dodger Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Bring the earplugs, local media.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be loud there on a Friday and Saturday
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  Speaker 1: night with a full ballpark, and the Orioles are going
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  Speaker 1: to try to beat the team that's won the last
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  Speaker 1: two World Series. So we got a lot to do
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  Speaker 1: here on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Hang with us.
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  Speaker 1: We're just getting rolling for today here on Birdland Territory.
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  Speaker 6: Are you and need some fun plans? Of course?
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  Speaker 5: Well, heading to the ballpark, that's always a great time.
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  Speaker 5: Are you out west seeing the Orioles play well. If
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  Speaker 5: you plan on going to any of the games during
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  Speaker 5: the O's Angels series, I would suggest Monday because Kyle
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  Speaker 5: Bradish lines up to start then and we were just
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  Speaker 5: talking about him and boy was he filthy last night.
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  Speaker 1: So, guys, here's my concern about the Orioles for the
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  Speaker 1: next few weeks and even months at six games under.
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  Speaker 1: They're losing ground again with this season and people are
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  Speaker 1: losing interest. If you run the business for the Orioles,
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  Speaker 1: that's a concerning factor. People are going to find out
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  Speaker 1: different things to do in the summer. They're not going
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  Speaker 1: to read our articles. Heaven forbid. They may miss a
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  Speaker 1: couple editions of Birdland Territory. We don't want anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: But we don't control the wins and losses everybody.
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  Speaker 2: We just don't.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean it's a concern for me, for the organization,
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  Speaker 1: for the summer, for the team, the players, Brad and Tim.
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  Speaker 2: You get beaten down.
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  Speaker 1: Eventually you keep coming back, you keep being resilient, but
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  Speaker 1: how long can you do it? And right now they
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  Speaker 1: have to do it at least one more time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's just getting later, Like we talked about
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  Speaker 4: last episode and the episode before that, it's just getting
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  Speaker 4: close to July, and it's what is this team? I
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  Speaker 4: think as a player, you sit there, you look at
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  Speaker 4: it and say, we're still in this We got a shot.
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  Speaker 3: We're only two and a half games out.
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  Speaker 4: But it's just the inconsistency that we've seen, whether it
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  Speaker 4: was the pitching early on and now I feel like
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  Speaker 4: lately it's just been the offense. And this series kind
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  Speaker 4: of concerned me because I feel like they've been really
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  Speaker 4: home run reliant lately to get those big run games
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  Speaker 4: they've had, and in Seattle, you're just not gonna be
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  Speaker 4: able to do that. I know they had a couple
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  Speaker 4: of the night before, but it's just a hard place
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  Speaker 4: to hit home runs, and when you're facing that kind
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  Speaker 4: of pitching staff, it just gets concerning. And to me,
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  Speaker 4: it's just been the situational hitting with we talked about
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  Speaker 4: a lot this year is the runners in scoring position
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  Speaker 4: less than two outs, they just haven't done a great
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  Speaker 4: job with that, and that, to me, that's winning baseball,
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  Speaker 4: and they just have not been able to do that
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  Speaker 4: to this point in the season. Can you all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden start to become that kind of a team.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's possible, but I just don't know if
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  Speaker 4: we have the offense to kind of do that. It
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  Speaker 4: just kind of seems like everything kind of lives and
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  Speaker 4: die by the home run. And that's just concerning.
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  Speaker 6: You're starting to see the articles.
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  Speaker 5: August third is the trade deadline, and Jeff Passon, who
• 10:55
  Speaker 5: covers MLB for ESPN, he just put out a piece
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  Speaker 5: yesterday or the day before, the top one hundred trade ships,
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  Speaker 5: and I saw five Orioles names on that list. So, look,
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  Speaker 5: it's going to start to be talked about the closer
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  Speaker 5: and closer we get to the deadline. And am I
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  Speaker 5: convinced that the Orioles are going to be sellers? No,
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  Speaker 5: in large part because the American League is that bad.
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  Speaker 5: And heading into today's game, they were still a game
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  Speaker 5: and a half out of the wild card. It's crazy
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  Speaker 5: when they were five games under five hundred heading into today.
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  Speaker 5: Now six and they'll possibly lose some ground. But this team,
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  Speaker 5: they just gotta be able to sustain some type of success,
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  Speaker 5: and it looked like they were doing that when they
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  Speaker 5: won ten of fourteen, but now they've responded by losing
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  Speaker 5: what eight of twelve, I believe at this point, and
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  Speaker 5: that's where it's one step forward, one step back, one
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  Speaker 5: step forward, two steps back. And what's really concerning, guys,
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  Speaker 5: is we know what's looming. The Dodgers are the best
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  Speaker 5: team in baseball. They were off today and gosh, the
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  Speaker 5: pitching that they have, the lineup that they have like
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  Speaker 5: that is going to be an uphill to climb this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: That is for sure. Trey Gibson will get the start
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  Speaker 1: Friday night. We'll touch on that a little bit later
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  Speaker 1: this show. So the Oriols are thirty five and forty one,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, Tim, they've lost eight of twelve for at
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  Speaker 1: the last five one and two on this trip. They
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  Speaker 1: had actually won six and tied one series in their
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  Speaker 1: last seven against the Mariners. Against the Mariners, who's been
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  Speaker 1: good for a couple of years, the Orioles had been
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  Speaker 1: beating them until this series, and they lose. So let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about this stat. I just don't know how they're
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  Speaker 1: going to fix this. But in Seattle, one for thirteen
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  Speaker 1: with runners in scoring position. First problem with that stat
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  Speaker 1: is that's not enough chances. That's not getting enough guys
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  Speaker 1: in runners scoring position. And but you're failing there one
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  Speaker 1: for thirteen and then the past six games. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is three hits in six games with a runner
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  Speaker 1: in scoring position. I don't know how you win doing that.
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  Speaker 1: And Rio pitching. By the way, guys gave up nine
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  Speaker 1: runs in T Mobile Park in three games. Nine runs.
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  Speaker 1: So can't answer much more than that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I remember the stat Steve, I think you
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  Speaker 4: brought up it was probably six eight weeks ago now
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  Speaker 4: where they score five runs. They were eight games over
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  Speaker 4: five hundred or seven games over five hundred they scored
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  Speaker 4: three or less and they were like twelve games or
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  Speaker 4: fifteen games under five hundred. So it's kind of the
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  Speaker 4: tail of the tape. At this point. We know exactly
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  Speaker 4: what it's going to take to win. Now, how do
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  Speaker 4: they do that? And to me, it's just been that.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's been the hardest part about the show
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  Speaker 4: is that it's been the same things that we've been
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  Speaker 4: talking about since the second week of April. They haven't
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  Speaker 4: really improved in any of the areas that I feel
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  Speaker 4: like have been causing them to lose games. And that's
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  Speaker 4: the concern for me moving forward is now, does it
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  Speaker 4: magically appear three months into the season, with three months left,
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  Speaker 4: where they start hitting with thens and scoring position, they
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  Speaker 4: start getting the opponents out with two outs. It's still
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  Speaker 4: to me kind of seems like the same type of
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  Speaker 4: thing that's happening, and you just wonder where that boost
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  Speaker 4: is going to come from. Does Pete get super hot
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  Speaker 4: and he starts hitting it runs, Does Wards start hitting
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  Speaker 4: more home runs? Does Henderson turn to the table and
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  Speaker 4: become the lead player. We think those are the biggest
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  Speaker 4: question marks, and I don't think anybody knows the answers
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  Speaker 4: to this point. All we have to go off is
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  Speaker 4: what we've seen so far to almost three months into
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  Speaker 4: the season.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think part of it is Pete's been so
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  Speaker 5: fantastic with runners in scoring position over the course of
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  Speaker 5: his career. You can't really say that this year and look,
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  Speaker 5: Pete in terms of problems is way down the list,
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, he's had the most He's had the most
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  Speaker 5: played appearances with runners in scoring position.
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  Speaker 6: That's just the fact.
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  Speaker 5: Gunner Henderson he's been fantastic with runners in scoring position
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  Speaker 5: throughout his career. He has the second most played appearances
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  Speaker 5: and he hasn't been able to kind of meet that mark.
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  Speaker 6: And they're this deep into the season.
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  Speaker 5: Guy seventy five games in, and I think a question
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  Speaker 5: that I ask myself a lot over the past few
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  Speaker 5: weeks is what is this team's identity? And it's hard
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  Speaker 5: to really pinpoint, and that obviously is not a good
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  Speaker 5: thing when you're almost halfway through the season where we
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  Speaker 5: all thought that this lineup would be a superpower. And
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  Speaker 5: it's not that the lineup's been bad. They're top twelve
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  Speaker 5: in several categories, which is good. You're above average, but
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  Speaker 5: it still hasn't met our expectations yet. You know, we
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  Speaker 5: know the starting pitching and the relief pitching has been
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  Speaker 5: really inconsistent. I guess the one thing I would say,
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  Speaker 5: and I have a check where they've ranked recently. They
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  Speaker 5: have a lot of come from behind wins. They definitely
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  Speaker 5: do not quit. But I just find a hard I
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  Speaker 5: find it hard to pinpoint what this team's identity is
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  Speaker 5: this deep into the year.
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  Speaker 1: Six runs on sixteen hits in three games in Seattle
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  Speaker 1: twice they went three for thirty as a team.
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  Speaker 2: First game of the series.
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  Speaker 1: Last game of the series, Captain Obvious called and said
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  Speaker 1: that is not even close to good enough. Now Here,
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  Speaker 1: some pressure is starting to fall on skipper Craig Albernaz
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  Speaker 1: because of some of the events of the last week
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  Speaker 1: or two, he did not get thrown out in Toronto.
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  Speaker 1: The base running out of base running thing and the
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  Speaker 1: Samuel Bissaio scenario has been talked a lot about on
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  Speaker 1: the airwaves. I've heard it on Tim's show, I read
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: it on my blog. I see it even in the
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: comments on this YouTube channel. Fans are starting to point
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the finger in his direction. And I guess when it's
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: going bad, guys, fingers are pointed in all directions, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: how could he avoid it? And I wonder in how
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: he's truly holding up as a first year rookie manager,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: probably feeling he's done a lot right this year, and
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: yet the results aren't showing it. And now some people
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: are pointing at his office.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of times I've overs heard of saying
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: that when the team's doing well, it's the players, and
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: when the team's doing bad, it's the manager of the coach.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: And it's just kind of the nature of the beast
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: of it. And I mean, to me, I think he's
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: done a good job handling kind of everything that's been
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: coming his way. I think, like we said, it's just
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: he can't go up there and make these guys hit
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: with two outs and got less than two outs, and
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: guys at the scoring position. I think they've done a
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: good job of making adjustments on I in particular, the
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: fielding I feel like has gotten way better. So that
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: comes directly from him. He's called it out.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: I just I don't see him that he's the guy
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: to blame when it comes to all this. But it's
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: just obviously that's the nature of the business when you're
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: a manager of the major leagues and with the team
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: that had the expectations that they have.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: Maybe this is me giving him way too much of
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: a pass, but I just I find it difficult to
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: put a ton on Craig albern has Now. I will
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: fully admit that was a really bizarre week for him.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Last week.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Samuel Bosio situation was very odd. I thought how he
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: handled Gunner Henderson getting plunked basically taking up for the padres,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: that was very odd. But outside of that, guys, I look,
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: are there some decisions that we can second guess? And
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: you can always Monday morning quarterback and you're we watch
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: these games so intently, sure, but ultimately you can say
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: the same thing about every single manager over the course
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: of one hundred and sixty two games. This is a
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: rookie skipper, and this is someone that's, you know, finding
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: his way, and there's going to be growing pains along
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: the way. I just I find it difficult to put
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: a ton of this team's shortcomings at Craig on Craig Alberanaz.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Tim, and I think in a bigger,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: forty thousand foot view, you got to bring ownership in this,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and ownership now, if Elias is on the hot seat
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and they're potentially gonna sell at the deadline, do you
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: want the front office selling? That may not be your
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: front office in three or four months. There's so many
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: factors swirling here in Birdland, and you've got a rookie
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: owner and he's got a lot of good people around him, obviously,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and he can call anybody once in the game and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: get opinions. But it's an interesting time in Birdland and
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of different offices.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: I feel like I brought up twenty eighteen a lot,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: and I know it's not a like for like, but
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of people were asking that's good question.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: Then, like Dan Duquat Bucks Showalter.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: They were both on expiring contracts, and Dan ended up
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: operating that trade deadline and traded away a ton of
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: the team, including new Brad. And it's it's a weird situation,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: I really, and especially if it gets to that point.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: And again we're still month and a half away, but
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: if Mike is on the hot seat, like do you
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: want him handling that possible Adlee Rutchman decision, because you
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: know teams are going to be calling about him, and
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: he would wouldn't be a rental because he's under club
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: control for twenty twenty seven. It would be a very
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: difficult situation for this team, this organization, Michaelai is everyone
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: to be in if it gets to that point.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Brad, Yeah, And to me, I think the biggest concern
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I have about the organization as a whole is if
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: you get to the trade deadline, you trade away these guys,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: who's going to replace them? To me, it's like the
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: guys they have right now, they've already tested their death already,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and there's still nobody knocking down the door that has
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: to get to Baltimore.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: So who are you going to turn to?
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Does that mean it's going to be another uh just
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: turn over the leaf and go way back to losing
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: one hundred games again.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: And it's just I just that would be that would.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Break my heart for Oriols fans because you just felt
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: like the window was there twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: they won the division.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Right, I think.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: So it's like you think about that season and it's
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: how does it get How has it gotten to this
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: point where you're trading at the line, thinking about trade
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: away Aley, thinking about trade away these guys.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: It's just like, does the window get that short?
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: And now you're gonna go back to what it was
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: from eighteen to twenty three. I just that would break
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: my heart for Ools fans because they deserve way better.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: And I just hope this team can get going for
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: that sake alone, that they don't get to the trade
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: deadline and they're not sellers. At least keep some hope
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: in Baltimore for this team.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Heavy duty stuff today on Birdland TERRITORYOS fans. The game
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: may have been a little dull today, the show is not. Man,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: we are not avoiding everything. It's front and center and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: it just is I mean, that's the position the Oriols
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: have left everybody in right now at thirty five and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: forty one. When we come back, I'm going to lighten
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the mood and throw out a minor league note or
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: two that'll be interesting for you to hear, and my
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: trip and Bowie yesterday I had a great time, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: more coming up on Birdland Territory.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I had some fun yesterday.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I went to Bowie and I got to catch up
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: with some of the Bay Socks. They've got some very
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: interesting players. Wrote a big story today on my substack
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and you can find me right here if you'd like
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to know where to find that. On Louis stalely on
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: twenty three year old left hand ear. He was a
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: top one hundred pitcher preseason. HISZRA is six right now.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: So I went in search of what's going on? Do
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the Oriel still feel good about this kid? What's he
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: got to work on? And had a great interview with
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Jeremy Hilman and the pitching coach at Dohchesapeake to touch
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: on that. So hopefully you get a chance to check
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: it out on my substack. I really like this kid,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Louis stale One. I saw him pitcher last night. It
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: was mixed results. Defense wasn't great to him, but he
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: showed some of the swinging this stuff that he's got
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: against a Richmond hitting team. It's the best in the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Eastern League this year. Also guys tonight and by the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: time people watch this we may know the result. But
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Thursday night, the Frederick Keyes played the final game of
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the first half. If they win, they clinch a playoff
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: berth This is their first year back. Remember since they
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: were contracted before the twenty twenty one season. Frederick fans
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: are baseball crazy. They love the Keys. I am rooting
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: hard for them to win tonight or Greensboro to lose
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: would get them in. And Frederick is playing six thirty
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: five baseball Seven top thirty prospects are on that team,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: including three of the top five Nate George, Ike Irish
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and Beheva Alloy.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: JT.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Quinn is a rank prospect pitching the game to night.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I noticed quickly at the break here that the Keys
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: are have an early lead. Already Steve's checking the score.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: But Frederick has had eleven playoff appearances over the years,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: representing the Orioles. Four times they won Carolina League championships
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and the last one I saw when Manny Machado and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Scope led the way in twenty eleven. That's how
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: long ago was so at what a great return to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Berdland that would be for Frederick. These teams the minor
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: leagues now play halves. These records go to zero zero
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: tomorrow after tonight, and so if you win and get in,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you'll be in the player off sometime in September. But
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: they'll packed that ballpark at Harry Grove and the team
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: may be totally different by the way when they get
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs. You guys, but this team has had
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: a great first half and I hope they can finish
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: it off tonight.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Brad.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Were you ever involved in a minor league championship or
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a pennant race?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: What's it like on the farm?
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny you said that. In two thousand and nine. Now,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I played in Port Wayne, Indiana. They had just built
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: a brand new stadium downtown and had a lot of
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: flak from the community. They had a lot of government
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: funding that they used to do the stadium, and we
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: end up winning.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: One hundred games. We went like one hundred and forty two,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: won the championship. It was unbelievable. The group that I
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: played with throughout the minor leagues.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: We won the Low A Championship, we won the first
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: half in High A Double A we won the championship,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: and then obviously when you get the Triple A, it's
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: a little different and gets to that level. But had
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: unbelievable runs in the playoffs. It's really fun when you're
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: down there and you get to the playoffs. You finally
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: get to play winning baseball. It's not about this guy pitching,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: this manetings that guy. You get to the playoffs, that's
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: your chance to get a feel of what it's like
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: at the major leagues and try to win games. So
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: I was fortunate enough to be a part of two
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: championships and we had such a great time. The city
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: of Fort Wing came around us and it was just
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: an absolute blast that summer with the guys I got
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: to play with.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: As a broadcaster, I got to be part of a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: championship with the Richmond Braves back in nineteen eighty nine.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: That's how back we're going on back. We're going talking
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: about Ron Gant, David Justice, Kent Burker, guys like that.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: We're on that team.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: But one of the greatest nights of my life, guys,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: was watching Bowie win the Double A Eastern League in
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. Mancini and Mike Yastremsky were two leaders on
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that team. They had some veteran guys like Brandon Snyder
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: showing them the way. And I was so happy for
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Gary Kendall, this guy bled Orange and Black. He no
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: longer works for the Orioles, but they've never had an
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: employee who loved Baltimore and oriol baseball more to see
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: him win a championship that night, I remember it like
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: it happened today. I mean, it was so fun in
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the celebration at night. They doused those kids in each
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: other forever it was Niagara Falls in the Booie Clubhouse.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: It was just unbelievable anyway, great memory, So good luck
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: to Frederick. I hope by the time some people see this,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: maybe they will be a first half champion in the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: South Atlantic League. We got a sweet final comments. The
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: O's are headed for the Dodgers. Yikes, Dodger Stadium next
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: in Berdland.
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  Speaker 2: The fan, those fans, I know what you're thinking.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: The Oils are gonna get rolled this weekend because the
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Dodgers are forty eight and twenty seven. The Dodgers since
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: early May are playing seven to twenty seven ball. They
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: just swept the Rays, two time World Series champs. They've
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: got it all and so guys, they've got to figure
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: out a way. I think one win probably oriel fans
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: would be happy too, maybe would be shocked.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Hey, no better way to get going again than against
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: the defending two time world champions.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: You know it's la is gonna be bumping. It always is.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: It's a great statement to play at the energy on
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: the weekend there is second to none.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: So there's no reason not to get up with these games.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: And if you want to do it, you're gonna you
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: want to do it against the best in the world.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: They're gonna see some really good pitching.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: You just got to hope that they can turn around.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Maybe this could be that point we look back at
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: the end of the season and say they really got
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: it going against the Dodgers, against the best there is,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: and you just never know that. That's the beauty of
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Major League baseball when you go out every single night,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: the pitcher could have it going on and you could
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: win any game and any time, who knows, they could
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: sweep this weekend. Gotta be positive if you, if you're
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Oriols fans, just go out there. They're gonna be pumped up.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: It's a great place to play at and hopefully they
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: go out there and get at.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Least two wins.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: But that's just baseball, right Brad, Like I think that
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: boy is during twenty fourteen, Like I remember the Orioles
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: obviously fantastic season that year. I think you guys did
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: did you guys get swept at Wrigley?
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: Like the Cubs were so down?
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: I remember that being like a like a big surprise, like,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: oh my god, what the heck happened? You know with
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: the O's, But that happens. And last year was just
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: such a down year for the Orioles. But the craziest
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: game they played it was the thirtieth anniversary at twenty
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: one thirty one. Yamamoto's on the mound, he's won out
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: away from throwing a no hitter at cam Vinyards and
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: the Orioles ended up walking and off that game. So
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: look Obviously on paper it does not look great for
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: the Orioles, but that's just baseball.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Like weird things happened.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: They could go out, they could win, win the series
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: and shock people. But you know, nothing really surprises you
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: in this game.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I was talking with Bollie yesterday with some people who
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: know Trey Gibson well. They felt, to a man, he
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: will step up and give his very best Friday Night
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: now against this team. It may not be good enough,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: but they did not feel that incident that happened with
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: hitting the batter in the head and then all the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: bru high with Gunner will impact him five days later.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I hope not. It's gonna be interesting to watch.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know how many rookies will get a start
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: at Dodger Stadium and Yankee Stadium in the same year,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: so he'll always have that on his resume no matter what.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: And everything I've seen from him, he's super even keeled.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Even his first start at Yankee Stadium, he looked cool,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: calm and collected. So there's nothing that's gonna uh he's
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: gonna see there that he hasn't seen before. It's yes,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: it's Dodger Stadium. It's a little bit bigger and all
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: that stuff, But I just feel like nothing's gonna face
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: him when he goes out there, and he's gonna give
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: up a chance to get a win, and he's going
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: to continue this starting pitching streak that they have going
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: on here and just kind of give the guys a
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: chance to win. That's all you can ask from a
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: starting pitcher and go out there and enjoy it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Going a step further with that, Brad, and I'd have
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: to look this up. I'm willing to bet it might
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: be history for him to not only his rookie year,
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: make a start at a Yankee stadium in Dodger Stadium
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: in his first five starts.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: This is a start.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah tomorrow, Like, I can't imagine five.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: That's crazy. That is crazy.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: That is crazy. I can't imagine how good guys doing that.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: We couldn't fit Fenway Parking there. So I mean, listen,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: hopefully the Oriels making a fun weekend for us and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: don't get rolled by the Dodgers and have competitive games,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: give us a lot to talk about when we reconvene
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: in a couple of days. Enjoyable show, guys, Even if
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the game today was not thanks to Tim and the
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Brad Steve Moleski with you and be with us next time. Man.
• 31:45
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• 31:46
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