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Living Between Trust and Fear: ☀️EnneaSummer Track One · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

• 0:05
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Inea Summer Mystery Series, a special storytelling journey from Simply Wholehearted.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: Over these nine special episodes, I'm inviting you to step into someone else's shoes, to feel their hopes, fears, and longings before you even know their Enneagram type.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: It is a fun guessing game, but also the invitation is this: to hear your own story differently.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: To experience how grace, truth, and transformation meets you right where you find yourself.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: If you love Jesus in the Enneagram, well you have found the right place, and I know you'll feel right at home.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Amy Wicks, your wholehearted coach and guide by the side.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Let's begin.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: Both the best case and the not so best.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: Today you're stepping into the shoes of someone who is thoughtful, brave, yet quietly scanning for how to keep the ones they love safe.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: Can you guess which Enneagram type I'm talking about?
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I want to invite you to take a walk in their world.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_00: My alarm goes off, and before I even open my eyes, my brain is already scanning.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: Did I close the garage door last night?
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: I think I did, but I should probably double check.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: I shuffle out of bed and then check on the kids.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Are they still breathing?
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: I know, I know it's so silly, but you know, just in case.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: I check the garage.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: Phew.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't forget that again.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: As I make breakfast, I have a mini negotiation in my mind.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: Are the eggs fresh?
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: Is the milk spoiled?
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  SPEAKER_00: Did I toast the bread exactly the way they like it?
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: Did I pack the right snack?
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: Is that dentist's appointment today or tomorrow?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: I pause to send my best friend a text.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, just double checking.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: Are we still in for coffee?
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: I feel a little annoying, but I just need some reassurance.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, as I am at work, I am the faithful employee who catches the typos and I notice the wobbly chair in the conference room today.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's like my radar is always scanning, watching, noticing, preparing.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I think most people appreciate it.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: But I wonder sometimes if they just think that I'm a worry wart or worried all the time.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: I get interrupted midday by a friend's call.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: She needs help troubleshooting a situation.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: I love this.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are moments where I shine.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm calm, methodical, I can think ahead.
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  SPEAKER_00: Contingency plan, I've already got it mapped out.
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  SPEAKER_00: My friends trust me because I can see the cracks before things fall apart.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: But by late afternoon, I am tired.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's so many possibilities to manage, so many futures to prepare for.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: But just when I think I've kept everything on track, my phone rings again.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: This time, it's the school nurse.
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  SPEAKER_00: Her voice is polite but firm.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: Your son has a fever.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can you come get him?
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: My stomach drops.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: My mind goes from zero to worst case in three seconds flat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did I miss something?
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_00: He seemed fine this morning, right?
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't check for a fever, but is this more than a cold?
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: What if he's really sick?
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm already re-riding the rest of the day in my head.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: Who can cover that 430 meeting?
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: Do I have any medicine at home?
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: Should I cancel my dinner plans?
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_00: How on earth am I gonna juggle all of this?
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: I stop to text my husband.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: Hey babe, can you come home early?
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_00: I need some backup.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: Three dots appear, then disappear.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_00: And finally the text comes through.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, hun, I'm stuck at work.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_00: I close my eyes and I feel it rise.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: The wave of pressure, the quiet ache that says that I have to figure this out on my own again.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_00: I gather my things, pack up my laptop, and I head out the door.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: And my mind is already spinning.
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  SPEAKER_00: What if I didn't catch it soon enough?
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  SPEAKER_00: I just didn't plan for this today.
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  SPEAKER_00: As I crawl into bed that night, the house is quiet, but my brain is buzzing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's replaying everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm trying to plan for tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_00: I try to whisper my nightly prayer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh Lord, please help me trust what I can't control.
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  SPEAKER_00: Help me believe, really believe that you're the one who keeps us safe, even when I feel like it's all on me.
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  SPEAKER_00: For a moment, the noise inside quiets down.
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  SPEAKER_00: I breathe deep, eyes closed, hand on my heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: The hum of the house feels steady, the soft whoosh of the fan, the quiet tick of the clock.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: As I go to turn out the light, I decide to reach for my phone.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: But instead of scrolling the news or double-checking the locks again, I decide to open my Bible app.
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  SPEAKER_00: I search for fear and land on a verse from Psalm 56.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I am afraid, I put my trust in you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I read it twice, whisper it once, and then I close my eyes and let it sink in.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: Tonight, this is my brave step.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not planning, not fixing, just resting in the truth that I am already held.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: As I finally turn out the light, the quiet somehow feels different.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not empty, but safe.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm wondering, could you figure out whose inner world you were getting a glimpse into?
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  SPEAKER_00: What Enneagram type sees life like that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Now go ahead, take your guess, because I'm about to reveal the mystery.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it an Enneagram five?
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  SPEAKER_00: An Enneagram seven or an Enneagram six?
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  SPEAKER_00: If you guess the Enneagram six, you're spot on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sixes are wired for safety, loyalty, and truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: And not because they're afraid of everything, but just like you heard, because they care deeply about what matters most.
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  SPEAKER_00: A six tends to ask in their mind, can I trust you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Will I be okay?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or what if something goes wrong?
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  SPEAKER_00: And their inner world is shaped by an inner committee.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a chorus of voices, playing out every possibility just in case.
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  SPEAKER_00: But here's what most people could miss about a six, because they aren't just cautious, they're courageous over and over again.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when a six begins to trust the voice of God more than their fear, a six becomes one of the most faithful, steady, and brave guides you will ever meet.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: Sixes teach the rest of us something most of the world forgets: that real courage isn't the absence of fear.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's moving forward even when fear is shouting in your ear.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: And they remind us that asking for help isn't weakness, it's wisdom.
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  SPEAKER_00: That faith isn't about having all the answers.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's about trusting the one who does.
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  SPEAKER_00: And maybe, just maybe, they remind us that in a broken world, it is still possible to hope and to build something steady and good.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: As you've just seen, the journey of a six, or really anybody, it's never just about surviving fear.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's about learning to live rooted in courage and trust, one wholehearted step at a time.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's easy to talk about transformation in theory, like our little glimpse in a day in the life of a six, but I think it's really powerful to hear it lived out in real life.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_00: So today I'm so excited to share a glimpse into someone's real story, their wholehearted transformation journey.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: I want you to hear how this six moved from anxiety and overthinking into greater trust, confidence, and wholehearted living.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, my name is Beth.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: I live in Rome, New York, and here's my wholehearted journey.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: I live with my amazing husband of 36 years and two of our beautiful adult children.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_01: Our son is twenty-four years old, and he suffers from symptoms that keep him from living an independent life.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: The fear and frustration of not understanding what he's experiencing leaves him isolated and and often feeling hopeless.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: I knew I needed to get help, real real honest with myself and find help to break out of negative patterns, sinful patterns, and to be free of the weight of guilt and grief over what harm that I have caused to my entire family.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: These patterns included things such as shame, control, fear, self-doubt, overthinking, negative thinking, blaming, comparison.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: The oppressive status quo had to go and continues to have to be challenged.
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  SPEAKER_01: Having retired early from a long-time job about five years ago, we also had financial issues which need to be addressed, and that was also adding adding to our stresses.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I ended up meeting with Amy for six sessions over a 10-week period.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: The first session that I started with Amy, I kind of beat around the bush about what I needed and why I was there.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she gave me a gentle message when she said, Beth, you don't have to impress me.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I appreciated her recognizing what I was doing and having the courage to tell me so.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that way I could get to the root issue.
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  SPEAKER_01: I brought up the need to speak to someone about confession.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Amy offered to be a safe place to do so if I wanted.
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  SPEAKER_01: So laying it on the line, I confessed, and she didn't judge me.
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  SPEAKER_01: She pointed me to Christ and reminded me of his saving grace.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I was grateful and relieved.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: In my conversations with Amy, she helped me to see that I was not responsible for decisions that my son needed to make for the type of support that he wanted in his health and healing journey.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: And there was a shift, there was a it was a relief of sorts to me and also him as well, I believe.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: Appropriate boundaries were being set, I guess.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um there was a shift, there was a shift in our interactions.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: I felt more relaxed and perceived that he was somewhat more relaxed in general.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: Shortly before our last session, I randomly read from June Hunt's book, How to Handle Your Emotions, and on a section that was the four sources of anger.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought anger was relegated to my past, but the Holy Spirit convicted me of remaining protective walls, a lack of trust in God's plan that was leading me to fear and also frustration over unmet expectations, expectations of my own, of myself or others, and according to June, can cause anger as I try to meet my need for significance apart from God.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I was convicted of this, and I was able to share this with Amy and felt it was a divine bookend of sorts, a divine bookend to our initial session of confession.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: So God giving me some insight and ability to identify the truth of myself.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: And well, it's been just a little over a month since we last met.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: I feel a growing confidence that God is with me and has forgiven me.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't feel as strong a need for approval or acceptance from people.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm learning to rest in Jesus and enjoy Him more as I focus more on God and what pleases Him.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: My attitude of scarcity is growing in His abundance, and I'm growing in my ability to be present with others.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm learning in a deeper way what it feels like to be in someone else's shoes.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: The practices that are helping me to stay aligned are include Amy's five R's, which are a rhythm to help you fight back.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: She names five different R words.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: The first is reflect on God's faithfulness, then remember his promises, repent from self-reliance and fear.
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  SPEAKER_01: I need to repeat this as necessary.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: Receive his grace and truth.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: I also, this is something I'm also repeating.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: Not my agenda, but his will, and then rejoice in his abundance.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Also listening to worship music is very helpful as well as observing nature.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_01: For worship music, Chris Rice, this hymn or song that he wrote, Go Light Your World.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: Just wanted to quote a few words, lyrics from it.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: So let's raise our candles and light up the sky, praying to our Father in the name of Jesus, make us a beacon in darkest times.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: So carry your candle, run to the darkness, seek out the hopeless, deceived, and poor.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: Hold out your candle for all to see it.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: Take your candle and go light your world.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: I love that so encouraging.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: I love that song.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I just wanted to encourage anyone who's listening who may think that they are too far gone, or anyone else that they know is too far gone for for God's forgiveness.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's a lie.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: No matter how your emotions may be trying to persuade you otherwise, if he can help me and redeem me, he can certainly redeem you as well.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: And Amy is such a gifted coach, and I am so grateful that God put her in my path.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: Friend, isn't it amazing to hear what can happen when someone chooses to trust the process, to trust God even little by little, to trust themselves?
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe today you recognize a piece of yourself in this story.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you felt the tug of your own journey toward wholehearted courage.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: Wherever you are, I just want you to know you're not alone.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so before we wrap this episode up, I would love to speak a blessing over you, especially if you know the ache of living between trust and fear.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: May you know deep in your bones that you are safe and secure in the hands of a faithful God.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: May the noise of fear quiet in the presence of his perfect love.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: May you find the courage in the unknown, and rest in the truth that you are never truly alone.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: Hear this promise from Isaiah 41.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: Don't be afraid, for I am with you.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: Don't be discouraged, for I am your God.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: I will strengthen you and help you.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: I will hold you up with my victorious right hand.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: God is with you, God is for you, and you are held by Him.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: I invite you to take a breath with me.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: Inhale, you are with me.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: Exhale.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: I am secure.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Lord, help me to trust that I am safe in your hands, no matter what today brings.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: And friend, as we continue to finish this conversation, I want to leave you with one simple question, something to reflect on before you jump ahead to the next episode.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: Where are you still holding on tight?
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: And what might it look like to trust God with that today?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: If something has been stirred inside you and you are ready for your own wholehearted transformation journey, I'd love to offer you insight into your next right step.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: You can find out how to book a call with me by checking in the show notes.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: Whether you're just starting out in your Enneagram journey, or you're wanting to get more clarity about how you get the breakthrough and freedom from the anxiety and overwhelm that you might be muddling through on a daily basis.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: I do believe that clarity and calm can be for you.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: There's a link in the show notes as well as to an Enneagram guide sheet specific for your type.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: Just go to simply wholehearted.com enneasummer to get a guide sheet that will help you take small, life-changing steps toward the wholehearted life you are longing for.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for walking this wholehearted mystery journey with me today.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't too suspenseful, but I hope that you found joy walking in another's shoes.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I can't wait to have you join me again for the next chapter of your story.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: And now before we go, this is the heartbeat of Simply Wholehearted.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: We are all broken.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: We're all blowing it, but the Brave One, she does something about it.