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Former Oklahoma Quarterback and Coach Cale Gundy previews the Red River Rivalry · The Craig Way Show

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  Speaker 1: You know, it was thirty one years ago that Oklahoma
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  defeated Texas there in Fair Park.
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  Speaker 2: They won at thirty eight seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: It was John Nacovic's second year as head coach, the
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  first year Texas won the contest, but Oklahoma won and
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  they were directed by quarterback Joseph cale Gundhy, star of
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  the Oklahoma Senters, later on the coaching staff and now
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  a star of radio. I'm a sports animal. They're in
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  Oklahoma City and he joins us on the hot line
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  right now. Does anybody even still call you Joseph any more?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh yeah all the time.
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  Speaker 3: So mainly people that family members and friends of mine
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  that I grew up with. My mother would always call
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  me Joseph, who she's no longer with us anymore. But
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  if Mom said Joseph, that meant I was in trouble,
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  I did something wrong. But you know, mainly people that
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  I grew up with and family refer to me as
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  Joseph still to this day.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, when did it kind of morphin? Everybody just calling
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  you Kale? Was that in elementary school? Middle school? High school?
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  When did when did people just get used to calling
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  you Kale? The middle name.
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  Speaker 3: Well, so so, Craig, this is been an ongoing deal.
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  I'm fifty two years old and I'm telling you what now.
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  So you know when you when your first name is Joseph,
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  but you go by your middle name Kale, I mean,
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  it's an issue when you go to fill out paper,
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  you know, you go to the doctor's office, or you
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  fill out the you know, to get a new credit card,
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  and okay, what's your first name? Well, my first name
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  is Joseph, but I go by Kale. I mean, it's
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  an issue. I'm telling you what now. It's it is.
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  It has drove me crazy for fifty two years and
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  still to this day. Whenever I fill out formed for something,
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  it's like, okay, do I put Joseph or do I
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  put Kale. But I will tell you this, and let
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  me ask you this, Craig, where do you think the
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  name Kale came from? Now? My parents? In my it
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  was really from my dad. And this was nineteen seventy
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  two when I was born. Where do you think he
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  got the name Kale. I'm gonna give you two guests, Okay,
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  two guests, and they are sports related?
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy, wow? And two guests is sports related? Nineteen
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  seventy two. Uh boy, I'm I'm just lost. I know
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  it's not for the for the vile weed that serves
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  as a vegetable in these days and age, because that
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  spelled with a K, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: And that has nothing to do with sports. It's a
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  sports figure and you'll know it when I tell you.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to tell me. I'm at a complete
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  loss here.
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  Speaker 1: Klee kle Yarborough, Oh, oh number two.
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  Speaker 3: Famous race car driver. So my dad was a great athlete.
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  He was all sick, quarterback, basketball player, baseball, went to
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  OSU play on scholarship for Henry I've been late fifties.
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  But he was also in the cars. So that's where
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  kale Yarborough came from. Or my name Cale came from
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  was from kale Yarborough. And I'll tell you this since then,
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  there's a lot of Kales that are running around here
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  in Oklahoma. And you know, when you have kids, it's
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  like a lot of people want to try to find
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  different names and they want to spell them different. And
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  Cale was, you know, just not a very popular name,
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  not a lot of them out there, and that's where
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  mine came from.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I would say this, knowing you the fighting
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  spirit you had, it might really epitomize the nineteen seventy
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  nine Daytona five hundred and kale Yarborough and Bobby Allison
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  got into a rep on the final lap and got
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  out of their cars and went to throwing haymakers at
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  one another while my hero Richard Petty the King slid
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  past him to win his seventh day total five hundred.
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  Speaker 3: On that, that's right, I would I would definitely agree
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  with you on that exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, there you go.
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  Speaker 1: So So, Gail Gundy is we talked during SEC media
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  days in July. Let me ask you this, would it
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  be safe to say that this season so far for
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  the Sooners has and I'm not saying good bad, I'm
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  just saying has gone differently than you might have imagined
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  when we were talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: Back in July.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I defensively, I felt like they were going to
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  be pretty good, and I think I think they're pretty
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  good now. You know, now, statistically they still have some issues,
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  but they have twenty two players on the defensive side
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  of the ball that are the ones and twos that
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  play really hard. They can run and they will hit.
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  I mean I mean they can roll in twenty two
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  guys that that it didn't matter if they're the first
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  one or the second one that are that are pretty
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  pretty good. And with brit Vinible's defense, his defense is
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  built to stop the run. That's what they want to
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  stop the run, stop to run, soft to run. The
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  weakness is in the back end. The weakness is uh,
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  you know, really emphasizing stopping the run and sometimes run blisses,
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  putting some guys on islands and leaving some areas in
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  the back end where big pass plays can can really
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  hurt them. And it has I mean they're I think
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  there there there run defense uh oh, us run defenses
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  twenty seven in their past defense is seventy fifth right now.
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  So offensively, we did not know that this was going
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  to happen. I think I told you, Craig this summer
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  that the strength of this Oklahoma offense was going to
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  be their receiving corps. We didn't know that they were
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  going to lose one of their top five receivers in
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  fall camp. We didn't know that they were gonna lose
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  their second top receiver, uh in the first game. We
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  didn't know that the another one of the top receivers
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  has just had, you know, just some kind of tissue
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  issues he's been dealing with and hasn't played in Nick Anderson,
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  who had the winning touchdowns scoring touchdown catch last year
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  in the Cockon Bowl Game. He hasn't hardly played in
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  walmout play, I don't think the rest of the season.
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  And then their best receiver who was here, who's a
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  transfer beyond Burks, who's been hurt uh for the last
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  two or three weeks. I don't know if he will
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  be back in the game. So, you know, I didn't
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  expect all this to happen, and I thought that Jackson
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  Arnold would be a little bit further along, even though
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  he's still a young quarterback, even though he's still a
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  red shirt freshman. He has it's been tough on him.
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  They've had a lot of offensive lineman injuries, a lot
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  of wide receiver injuries, and it's just been man, it's
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  just all came down piling on him, and I think
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  he's kind of took He's the guy that that has
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  taken the rap for this, and I don't think it's
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  all his fault. So, you know, defensively, I thought they
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  were going to be like this offensively. I did not
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  expect this, but just everything is kind of unfolded, and
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  they're slowly trying to get some guys back. I just
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  don't know if they can get as many back that
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  they need.
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  Speaker 1: Busy McHale Gundhy here on sports Radio AM thirteen. Hey,
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  by the way, I'm I'm disappointed I missed out on
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  Gundy Monday yesterday. There, that's the every Monday you do
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  at a sports bar. What it one's seventy eighth in
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  Western every week every well.
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  Speaker 3: Else, Yes, So Louis Restaurants, there's a there's a man
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  here who lives here in town House Smith Him's it's
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  called House Smith's Restaurant Groups and has a whole bunch
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  of different restaurants in the state of Oklahoma. So they
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  have bought my day. So every I go to different
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  Louis throughout the state and do my show from liven
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  to two, and then today I had one with the
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  Johnny's Kitchen a bar, which is a restaurant in Oklahoma City.
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  And then on Wednesdays I go to Mathi's Home, which
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  is one of the largest furniture stores in the United States.
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  So I've been very fortunate it's been fun. Three days.
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  Not as much as I can do, Craig, I'm telling you,
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  it's a lot of work, you know. I somebody came
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  on the radio day said, you know, okay, you do
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  a great job. I mean you we need you to
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  do this five days a week. I'm like, well, I
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  do not want to do this five days. So, I mean,
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  it's just too much work. It's you know, it's just
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  it's you know, it's tough to get on there and
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  continually to have to talk about stuff for three hours,
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  you know, and uh, to have to do it every day. Now,
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  if you spread it out a couple of days a
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  week or three days, it's not that bad. But it is.
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  I'm I'm learning that it is a it's it's it's
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  a lot of work. I enjoy it. I love sports.
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  I love all sports. I mean I love Nascar, I
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  love Formula one, I love softball, I love basketball, I mean,
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  you name it. I'm a fan of it. But it's
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  not it's not easy what this profession is.
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  Speaker 1: You made me smile when back in July when you
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  came on the program and you said, I have I
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  have discovered uh newfound respect for you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Who grind this out every day.
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  Speaker 1: Once I got into the business, you sit, yeah, you
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  got to work, and I was like, yeah, yeah, like
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  like anything else, I guess it requires, uh requires all right.
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  So what is the farthest away from Oklahoma City you've
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  had to do a show, like like for your your
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  regular stuff, not not like you know, coming to Dallas.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tulsa. Just Tulsa, which is okay, not an hour
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  forty five minutes from from here. I live in in More,
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  which is just south of Oklahoma City, between Norman and
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  Okahma City. So about our our forty five I got you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, big deal among the word and again I'm not
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  going to use the word surprise. Let me ask you
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  is what's been your impressions your impression of what you've
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  seen from Michael Hawkins so far?
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  Speaker 3: Well, Craig, I recruited his father, Okay, so we're gonna
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  start with that. I recruited Mike Hawkins out of RL
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  Turner High School, which was at the time coached by
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  a guy by name a Tim Beck, who I believe
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  since some time at Texas and I think he's the
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  head coach at Coastal Clarina, North Carolina. Was in Nebraska
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  and North Carolina state a lot of places, and his
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  father was a fabulous athlete. He played corner forest. He
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  was about six ' to one, about one hundred and
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  ninety five two hundred pounds, and I mean he was
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  a four to four guy. He could absolutely go well.
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  He stayed a year for US here at OU. It
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  was challenging for him to I believe, be coached by
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  coach Mike Stoops. They kind of hit it head to head.
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  So he left the program, went his own ways, had
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  some success in college, made his way to the NFL,
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  and played some time in the NFL. Anyways, I know
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  Mike is a person. I stayed friends with him ever since.
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  I know his upbringing and I know how he's raised
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  his son. He has he has put his son through,
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  uh a tough life of coaching, preparing a lot of
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  tough love, but put him in difficult situations, try to
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  prepare him for moments like this, that if he could
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  ever be this person in this spot, that he would
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  be as prepared as much as he possibly can be.
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  And I firmly believe that one percent. If you watch
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  this young man play, you know when he came in
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  versus Tennessee and his game versus Auburn, he remains very
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  very calm, very poised, and obviously he's a fabulous athlete.
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  He's very fast and he's just not a run around guy.
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  I mean, this guy can throw it. The first time
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  I saw him throw in the spring the first day,
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  just in in warmup, I was like, whoa. I mean,
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  this dude is just not a fast guy playing quarterback.
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  I mean he can he can rip it. I mean
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  he's got a quick release, he's accurate. So this this
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  young man has it. He has everything it takes. And
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  uh has been prepared for these moments. And Craig, he's
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  he was trained in high school by Kevin Murray, which
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  is Kyler Murray's father. And if you kind of know
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  Kyler and you know Kevin and know the Murray family, uh,
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  you know how they did things. I mean they do
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  it the hard way. They work hard, and they train hard,
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  and they love hard. So young man is as a
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  as a as a freshman, even though going in that
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  environment and I played in it as a true freshman.
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  You know it's people ask me today, well, how's he
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  going to handle playing in this environment? And and here's
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  my response, response to this, Craig, and people may think
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  I'm crazy for this. If if you come from uh,
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  were raised in and in sports all your life, always
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  played in championships and some of the biggest moments. For example, myself,
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  I played in the Little League World Series in Pennsylvania. Okay,
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  so when I'm eleven and twelve years old and you
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  have a chance to play in the Little League World
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  Series at eleven and twelve, that's the biggest moment of
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  your life. Okay. If you go to high school and
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  you have a chance to play in the state championship
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  baseball game, which I played in three, the state championship
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  football game, which I played in one, if you're sixteen, seventeen,
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  or eighteen, that's the biggest moment of your life. I
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  go to college playing tons of games, play baseball. Also
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  had a chance to pitch at Rosenblatt in the World
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  Series standing on that mound. That's the biggest moment of
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  your life. So even though this will be his biggest
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  moment of his life, if you come from a background
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  where you played in sporting events at the highest level
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  at that age, whatever that age is, whether it's eleven
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  and twelve or thirteen and fourteen or sixteen seventeen. I
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  think you're prepared for these moments. Yeah, you may get
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  caught up a little bit of it before driving in
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  on the bus, driving into the State Fair, but as
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  soon as that ball gets snapped, you forget all about that.
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  You literally forget all about that. If you've been in
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  those moments now, if you haven't been in those moments,
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  if you haven't played any state championships or World Series
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  or Little League World Series or whatever growing up, then
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  it is a big deal. But I think he's prepared
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  for the moment, I really do.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you one other thing, and it's
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  similar to what you just talked about. Speaking of r
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  L Turner, certainly, one of their most famous graduates was
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  Bill Montgomery. You played quarterback at Arkansas there in the
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  shootout in sixty nine. And then another famous graduate is
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  our broadcast parter Keith Morland, who works with us on
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  baseball and worked with me on football as well, and
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  he played quarterback at RL Turner as well. But Keith
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  always told the story about you know, coach Royle recruited
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  him as a defensive back and he played two seasons
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  in the as a defensive back for Texas in addition
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  to being an All America Baseball player. But he played,
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  and he mentioned the fact that Keith of course went
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  on and played in the major leagues for twelve years.
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  He stood at home plate in the nineteen eighty World
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  Series with the Philadelphia Phillies. He came up as a
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  pinch hitter and there he was standing at home plate.
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  But Keith to this day will tell you that when
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  he stood at plate, when your feet or feel like
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  they're off the ground, he said, I felt this before,
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  and it was the tunnel of the Cotton Bowl before Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Owe you, did you have that kind of feeling?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's no doubt that, Craig. When we played
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  back in the early nineties, before before the you know,
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  when teams warmed up, they come back in the locker room,
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  and when the teams came back down for the kickoff,
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  you used to walk up and down. You used to
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  walk down the ramps side by side. So ou in
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  Texas you could literally you could hold you could have
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  held hands, and you can't do that nowadays. I mean,
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  there'd be brawls in any any college environment or NFL
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  environment before a game. But back then there was such
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  great respect for the game. Now there was a lot
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  of stuff that was said walking down there, but it
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  was just a different environment and it is I mean,
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  I can you know, we've all been there, just you
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  know where there were a great place by ou or
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  or Texas, and you can feel the vibration of the stadium.
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  I mean you literally literally can. And then when you
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  watch it on Sunday or Monday back back in college,
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  the video, the camera when the great plays happened, everything
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  is just shaken. It's like an earthquake has taken place.
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  So I mean, just unbelievable experience. It is one of
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  the greatest environments of all time. You know, driving into
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  the stadium and the buses used to be my most favorite.
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  And back then when before they used to have securities
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  out there or roped it off. I mean people would
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  just be banging on the bus and you know, people
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  would be giving you the number one finger or they'd
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  be giving you the middle finger. I mean, it was
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  one of the two. There's nothing else. There was just
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  one of those two. But it is one of the
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  great moments of all time. There's no doubt playing in
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  that cotton bow.
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  Speaker 1: He's Kale Gundhy, former Oklahoma Sooners quarterback and now in
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  our senior undersided world of radio, and it's always great
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  to visit with him.
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  Speaker 3: Cale.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time. I look forward to
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  seeing you on Saturday down there in Dallas.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you're not going to see me. That is one
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  place I do not want to go back into as
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  a fan. It was difficult enough just trying to trying
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  to get through the fair, and then difficult enough trying
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  to come out of the press box after the game
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  and just trying to get into the locker room. So
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  I've got work and duty calls up here, so I'll
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  just make sure and stay in the AC and watch
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  you guys. I wish you the best and look forward
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  to talking to you tomorrow on our show up here.
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  Speaker 1: You bet we'll do. Kale, thanks for the time. I
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  appreciate it, Yes, sir, all right, that's Kale Gundy. Always
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  a pleasure to visit with and he always tells him
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  like it is as well. Let's right, I'm not going
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  down there, all right. Coming up, we have today's edition
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