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Inside Scoop with Breitbart News - AWR Hawkins · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Eight o six Here a fifty five kr CD talk station,
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  Speaker 1: and very happy Tuesday to you.
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  Speaker 2: Perfect timing.
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  Speaker 1: I think the timing was intentional given to the ahead
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  Speaker 1: that recent in and out shooting where a seasoned citizen
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  Speaker 1: with a firearm actually probably saved a lot of lives.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking with aw R Hawkins from Breitbart.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for the Breitbart inside scoop. Awr is an
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  Speaker 1: award winning second minute columnist for Breitbart. He else is
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  Speaker 1: the writer and curator of Down Range with a W. R. Hawkins,
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  Speaker 1: which I recommend you get that weekly newsletter. He is,
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  Speaker 1: in his own description, a lever action man in an
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  Speaker 1: AR fifteen world. Awr, my friend, welcome back to the
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  Speaker 1: fifty five Carsee Morning Show. It's always pleasure for having
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  Speaker 1: you on the show. Good to be with you, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: my forty five seventy eleven friend. Okay, here we got
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  Speaker 1: a real issue here in Hamiltip.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. You know that's my favorite round, alright. I
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  Speaker 2: asked you.
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  Speaker 1: I told you I got myself one for Christmas last year.
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  Speaker 1: And what I asked you about that? You said, that's
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  Speaker 1: my favorite round. I love you know what I like
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  Speaker 1: most about the forty five seventy eight you are is
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  Speaker 1: I'm a guy who likes a really, really healthy kick
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  Speaker 1: from a firearm, you know, like a handguns, revolvers, five
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  Speaker 1: hundred magnets of things. I just get the biggest kick
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  Speaker 1: out of it. But you get a real nice solid
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  Speaker 1: booze from the forty five to seventy lever action. Hand
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  Speaker 1: it to a friend who's not used to shooting a
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  Speaker 1: firearm of that power and watch the reaction when they
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  Speaker 1: squeeze the trigger, most notably if you put a plus
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  Speaker 1: P round in it, right right right.
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  Speaker 2: No, I just love it, and I'll tell you who
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  Speaker 2: hates it, hogs hat it. When I hate I bring
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  Speaker 2: that rock for.
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  Speaker 1: That is a showstopper for all things basically. Anyhow, moving
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  Speaker 1: away from the forty five to seventy lever action, let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about the judicial system. We have a problem here
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  Speaker 1: in Hamilton County, which is where I'm speaking from. We've
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  Speaker 1: got judges who are soft on crime, Judges who allow
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  Speaker 1: people to go out on own recognizance rather than requiring
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  Speaker 1: a bond. Judges who are extremely soft on crime in
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  Speaker 1: spite of the fact that they'll have they have a
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  Speaker 1: recidivus standing in front of them, demonstrably incapable of following
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  Speaker 1: the law. They'll still let them off with a slap
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  Speaker 1: on the hand. You wrote about this in Breitbart the
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  Speaker 1: other day, David Simpson. He was convicted of manslaughter and
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  Speaker 1: yet let my listeners know what happened with this guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they let him out, they released him on bond,
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  Speaker 2: and within two hours of his release, he allegedly shot
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  Speaker 2: one man and wounded him pretty bad, and then killed
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  Speaker 2: another again within two hours of his release. And the
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  Speaker 2: manslaughter conviction, as bad as that is, that's not the
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  Speaker 2: only part of his criminal history. That's not all of
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  Speaker 2: his criminal history. Let's put it that way. He also
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  Speaker 2: had a charge for being felling in possession of a firearm.
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  Speaker 2: That that charge, I believe still is still pending. And
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  Speaker 2: now he's going to have that charge all over again
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  Speaker 2: because he fell in the possession of the firearm when
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  Speaker 2: he allegedly shot these two individuals within two hours of
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  Speaker 2: being released. I'm just telling you, my man, I don't
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  Speaker 2: understand why we have jails and prisons if we're not
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  Speaker 2: going to keep the bad people in them.
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  Speaker 1: Still understand, I understand completely. I also understand that one
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  Speaker 1: of the theories and realities behind the criminal justice system
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  Speaker 1: is punishment, you know, it's you need to have good,
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  Speaker 1: solid punishment as a warning to everybody else in the
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  Speaker 1: world he might go out and commit the same crimes.
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  Speaker 1: What we have here is a revolving door. Commit a crime,
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  Speaker 1: go in, get released with a slap on the hand.
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  Speaker 1: There is no deterrent effect anymore. And aw R, let
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  Speaker 1: me hear what you have to think about the future
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  Speaker 1: of this world. The Democratic Socialists of America get their way.
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  Speaker 1: Their platform includes abolishing police and abolishing prisons. I have
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  Speaker 1: been struggling mightily, aw or to try to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what the world would look like in a post police,
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  Speaker 1: post prison world. It doesn't look to me like a
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  Speaker 1: very safe place. It looks to me like it would
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  Speaker 1: be anarchy.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well, it looks to me like it would look
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  Speaker 2: like this Simpson guy ad nauseam just he would be
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  Speaker 2: he and people like him would be everywhere. And that
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  Speaker 2: is a problem. That's what we've had in Chicago for
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many decades plus. Chicago has been
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  Speaker 2: what it is, so we already know what it's going
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  Speaker 2: to look like and we know it's not good. And well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this DSA movement. You're talking about this, This has got
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  Speaker 2: to go the way of the dinosaur immediately.
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  Speaker 1: It certainly does. I mean, how could anyone vote for
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  Speaker 1: a future without prisons and without the police department, a
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  Speaker 1: lawless future. I am shocked. Well, we all kind of
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  Speaker 1: figured out are there won't be police anymore. There will
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  Speaker 1: be a well community activist, in other words, party affiliates,
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  Speaker 1: maybe wearing brown shirts, going around and enforcing their version
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  Speaker 1: of the law. Right right, right, all right, let's pivot
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  Speaker 1: over Jordan Salinis. He is a hero, and he is
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  Speaker 1: I think he stands out as an illustration of what
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  Speaker 1: each and every one of my listeners could possibly be
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  Speaker 1: the savior of lives by virtue of two things. One
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  Speaker 1: owning a firearm and keeping it handy, but number two
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  Speaker 1: training the critical element of training. Let's talk about what
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  Speaker 1: he did the other day, the in and out burger.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're exactly right, Well, he is the individual everybody's
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  Speaker 2: seeing pictures of who who who hugged the side of
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  Speaker 2: the building and shot at the shooter and he threw
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  Speaker 2: the shooter off, and and that's not my opinion. The
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  Speaker 2: police have been very clear that they're they're confident that
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  Speaker 2: Jordan's shots on the shooter forced the shooter to take
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  Speaker 2: his eyes in his mind off the evil he intended
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  Speaker 2: to do and seek cover for himself. And Jordan is
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  Speaker 2: a stark reminder of so many things. We could spend
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  Speaker 2: the rest of our time together easily talking about him.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, number one, you're talking about an armed
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  Speaker 2: citizen who had a handgun versus a shooter who had
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  Speaker 2: that rifle that the Democrats tell us the most is
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  Speaker 2: the most deadly and scurious rifle ever, that it's that
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  Speaker 2: semi automatic platform rifle that looks so militaristic and blah blah. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Jordan had a handgun and he messed everything up because,
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  Speaker 2: as I've always said, the attacker's benefit is not the
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  Speaker 2: type of weapon he uses, it is the element of surprise. Indeed,
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  Speaker 2: and what happened is the tables got flipped, and the
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  Speaker 2: surprise was on the attacker when Jordan pulled that gun
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  Speaker 2: and started shooting. And that is how the Second Amendment
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  Speaker 2: is designed to work.
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  Speaker 1: And fortunately he wasn't standing in a gun free zone
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  Speaker 1: right outdoors, out there in the open. These gun free zones,
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  Speaker 1: those are an invitation to craze shooters that go in
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  Speaker 1: because again you talked about element of surprise. You are
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  Speaker 1: dealing with the element of surprise with the citizen with
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  Speaker 1: a firearm out of the world. But if you take
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  Speaker 1: away our ability to carry a firearm anywhere, any given location,
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  Speaker 1: that's cover for the crazies.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's it, and that's why we see the vast majority.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember if it's ninety four percent or ninety
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  Speaker 2: two percent, but if you look at all of the
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  Speaker 2: things that go into to a mass shooting, that type
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  Speaker 2: of high percentage occur in a place that is either
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  Speaker 2: a pure gun for a zone, or at least a
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  Speaker 2: place where restrictions are so great or regulations are so
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  Speaker 2: great that it dissuades good people from being armed. And
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  Speaker 2: that's what people attack, because as crazy as they are,
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  Speaker 2: they're not completely stupid, and they want to attack in
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  Speaker 2: a place where no one can shoot back.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's been demonstrated time and time again
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  Speaker 1: to that point. We always find out they engage in
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  Speaker 1: pretty extensive planning. These crazy gun and people, or these
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  Speaker 1: these people who go out and murder people, innocent people.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they's usually well documented, well planned out ahead
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  Speaker 1: of time. So maybe they choose a location based upon
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  Speaker 1: it being a gun free zone.
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  Speaker 2: Duh, duh. Yeah, well, I mean you see it time
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  Speaker 2: and again, and I'll tell you what I hate that.
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  Speaker 2: It makes me hate mass attackers even more because ultimately
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  Speaker 2: their bullies. Ultimately they're going to a place where people
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  Speaker 2: have been tricked into thinking you'll be safe here because
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  Speaker 2: it's quote unquote gun free, and that's where they attack.
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  Speaker 2: And they're ultimately bullies. So I love when they get theirs.
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  Speaker 2: I wish Jordan had been able to put and I
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  Speaker 2: mean it with my whole heart. I wish he had
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  Speaker 2: put a couple of rounds in the sky and had
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  Speaker 2: taken him out before he could take himself out. That's
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  Speaker 2: the only thing about what Jordan did that I wish
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  Speaker 2: we could change. But again, applause to Jordan, what a
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  Speaker 2: brave man.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you completely. I was dying to read
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  Speaker 1: a sentence or two in an article that says he
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  Speaker 1: actually he actually hit the guy.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't, but he was.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the distance was between him, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, firearms at longer distances. If you're using a handgun,
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  Speaker 1: of course, I'm not going to be as accurate as
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  Speaker 1: a long gun, but he did. Obviously the murderer was
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  Speaker 1: aware that he was there and shooting at him, because
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  Speaker 1: it did throw him off. The other component of this
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  Speaker 1: is and I emphasized it in a moment ago about training. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I personally had experienced one time, thankfully, only once in
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  Speaker 1: my life, and that was one too many where I
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  Speaker 1: had to pull out my own personal handgun to defend
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  Speaker 1: my life. A guy tried to kill me on the expressway,
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  Speaker 1: tried to me literally, and when we finally came to
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  Speaker 1: a stop, I had my gun out as I exited
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  Speaker 1: the car. But you know what, AWR, I actually was
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  Speaker 1: not freaking out. I wasn't sweating bullets. I was in
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  Speaker 1: fear of my life. Emin an option apprehension of grievous
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  Speaker 1: bodily harm or death justifies using a firearm and self defense,
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  Speaker 1: and I definitely had that. But I was calm and collected.
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  Speaker 1: You know why AWR is because I knew I could
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  Speaker 1: use the firearm. I was confident in my ability to
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  Speaker 1: use the firearm. And that's what comes with just going
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  Speaker 1: to the range and squeezing off rounds regularly.
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  Speaker 2: Right right. And I'm just gonna add one thing too
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  Speaker 2: that not only that but thinking about it, being mentally prepared,
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  Speaker 2: like I stretched the people all the time, I'm freeing.
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  Speaker 2: You carry that gun every day, but that's not enough.
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  Speaker 2: You have to train with it. You make that point,
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  Speaker 2: but that's not enough. You have to be mentally alert
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  Speaker 2: when you go out. You watch your By watching your environment,
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  Speaker 2: you're doing your part to take away that element of
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  Speaker 2: surprise that the attacker could use. You pay attention to
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  Speaker 2: your environment when you walk. I went, I did training
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  Speaker 2: at a place, and I'll never forget when I walk
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  Speaker 2: in and it was handed it. It was a firearm
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  Speaker 2: training for close quarter combat with firearms, and I will
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  Speaker 2: remember that when this is a civilian class. When we
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  Speaker 2: walk in the first thing the instructor said is every
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  Speaker 2: one of you in here right now should have thought
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  Speaker 2: how you can kill the people closest to you if
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  Speaker 2: you need to, in case they are coming after you.
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  Speaker 2: And he was That's how he was trying to teach
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  Speaker 2: us to observe. When you walk in a room, where's
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  Speaker 2: an exit? How could I get my family out of
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  Speaker 2: here if I needed to? How could I kill these
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  Speaker 2: individuals if they turn out to be intent on killing me?
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  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, And he said, if you can go
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  Speaker 2: through life like that doing that, did you do your
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  Speaker 2: part to take the element of surprise away from the
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  Speaker 2: would be attacker? And I think that's very important. I
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  Speaker 2: think Jordan's demonstrated that because he talked about how he
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  Speaker 2: trained for this moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, observe, orient, decide, and act. I believe where the
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  Speaker 1: was the approach that he was a forced up approach
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  Speaker 1: that he says he borrowed from the military and he
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  Speaker 1: broke it down that way. But that mental training, I think, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: I think to a certain extent a war, that's got
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  Speaker 1: to be the most difficult challenge for people because when
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  Speaker 1: people hear what you just said and they the reaction
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  Speaker 1: might be, you mean, I've got to go through life
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  Speaker 1: with the mentality that everyone in the room might try
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  Speaker 1: to kill me. That's not a mindset that I want
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  Speaker 1: to take with me throughout life. I mean, it's ultimately
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  Speaker 1: the best way to pretend to protect yourself as well
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  Speaker 1: as the other innocent people in the room. But that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a that's a bigger challenge than even going
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  Speaker 1: to the range and learning how to shoot proficiently.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, but I want to stress he's not saying
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  Speaker 2: go in that room and hate those peoples. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: or go in that room and want to hurt those people.
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  Speaker 2: He's not saying that. He's saying, if you if right
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  Speaker 2: now it all turns and there is a plan among
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  Speaker 2: some or even one of them, to take your life.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have a plan? That's what he's saying. Do
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  Speaker 2: you have a plan where not only you could stop that,
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  Speaker 2: but you can eliminate that threat. And you need to
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  Speaker 2: be making one as soon as you come in the
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  Speaker 2: room and start observing. And that's all he's saying. And
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  Speaker 2: it is a plan for self preservation, not a plan
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  Speaker 2: for hating somebody. It's not a plan for being aloof
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  Speaker 2: or distant. It is just a plan. It's a plan
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  Speaker 2: too if your family's with you. I stress this to
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  Speaker 2: people all the time. You go out and eat dinner
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  Speaker 2: and you take your family with you. Now, do you
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  Speaker 2: think our founders ever imagined we might do that and
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  Speaker 2: not have a firearm with us? Do you think they
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  Speaker 2: ever imagine that I might go to that, I might
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  Speaker 2: go to dinner and trust an agent of the state
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  Speaker 2: to keep me safe. I mean, that's a ridiculous thought,
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  Speaker 2: it is, but that's how some people live well.
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  Speaker 1: And you talk about founding fathers. They lived in time
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  Speaker 1: before there was organized police departments and military. That's why
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  Speaker 1: we had militias taking care of our neighborhoods. We joined
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  Speaker 1: together to protect our own best interests. And the fool
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  Speaker 1: is the one who's not looking out for his own
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  Speaker 1: best interest. So I guess one way I want to
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  Speaker 1: look at this be prepared sort of mentality you talk
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  Speaker 1: about is every time I my default mindset when I
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  Speaker 1: drive into an empty parking garage, which I do every
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  Speaker 1: morning here when I get into work at three o'clock
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  Speaker 1: in the morning, is to do a look around the
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  Speaker 1: area before I get out of my car. Are there
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  Speaker 1: any cars in the area? Do I notice them? Do
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  Speaker 1: any of them look unfamiliar? And sometimes I've pulled in
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  Speaker 1: and there'd be some person in a parked car in
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  Speaker 1: the parking lot, which is kind of curious at three
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  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, like what's that person doing there?
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  Speaker 1: I don't recognize the car of the individual. So I
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  Speaker 1: have a heightened sense of awareness in a parking garage.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of women should have the same approach,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe already do. So take that element of your
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  Speaker 1: life and just extend it out to the bar, the restaurant,
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  Speaker 1: the shopping mall, wherever you happen to be with you
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  Speaker 1: or your family.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. They you know, people come in to
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  Speaker 2: the bar or the restaurant or whatever, and I do
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  Speaker 2: I assess their thread level. I watch them. What are
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  Speaker 2: they doing with their hands? Are they wearing heavy clothes
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  Speaker 2: on a hot day? Why do they need heavy clothes
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  Speaker 2: on a hot day? Or they cover something up. I'll
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  Speaker 2: just keep my eyes on them, and uh, I don't
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  Speaker 2: do this to a degree that it keeps me from
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  Speaker 2: having fun. I think if you sit with any of
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  Speaker 2: my friends, I'll tell you I'm probably one of the
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  Speaker 2: most fun humans they've ever been with. But at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, I am watching because one of my daughters
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  Speaker 2: is with me a lot, or my wife is with me,
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  Speaker 2: and so it's not only my life, but it's their
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  Speaker 2: life that's at stake, and I don't want to be
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  Speaker 2: unprepared or un alert when this when this person springs
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  Speaker 2: into action.
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  Speaker 1: Or Hawkins Firearms Expert from Bright bar b R e
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  Speaker 1: I t b a R dot com bookmarkt read what
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  Speaker 1: AWR writes about all the time. It's always a pleasure
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  Speaker 1: to having you on AWR, Stay Frosty, my friend. I'll
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  Speaker 1: look forward to having you back on real soon.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, buddy, good to talk to you. Have a
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  Speaker 2: great day.
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  Speaker 1: You too, man, It's always a pleasure of mine. Eight
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  Speaker 1: twenty one.