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Murder In Moscow: Bryan Kohberger's Aunt Speaks out In The Wake Of His Arrest · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. Brian
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  Speaker 1: Koberger's family has not really spoken out about what went
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  Speaker 1: down or I should say allegedly went down with their
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  Speaker 1: family member. We had the one statement in the aftermath
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  Speaker 1: of Brian Koberger's arrest but besides that it's been pretty
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  Speaker 1: quiet from Camp Koberger. Well it looks like Brian Koberger's
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  Speaker 1: extended family in Las Vegas is Talk to the U.S. Sun.
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  Speaker 1: And as you can imagine, Kohlberger's family was mortified about
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  Speaker 1: the charges and the allegations. So let's get to this
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  Speaker 1: article from the U.S. Sun and let's see what Brian
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  Speaker 1: Kohlberger's family had to say. Headline, Demand for Truth. Idaho
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  Speaker 1: murder suspect Brian Kohlberger's aunt breaks silence and reveals whether
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  Speaker 1: she thinks he'll be found guilty. This article was authored
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  Speaker 1: by Katie Forrester. Brian Koberger's heartbroken aunt believes he will
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  Speaker 1: be found guilty of murdering four University of Idaho students
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  Speaker 1: stabbed in their beds and may try to take his
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  Speaker 1: own life if convicted. And it seems like everybody who
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  Speaker 1: talks about Brian Koberger, who knew him at some point
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  Speaker 1: or was related to him or whatever, they're all suspicious
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  Speaker 1: of him. His own sister came out allegedly and said
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  Speaker 1: that she was suspicious of his behavior in the aftermath
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  Speaker 1: of the murders. Now you have his aunt saying that
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  Speaker 1: she thinks he'll be found guilty? Not very reassuring. And
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  Speaker 1: I know that if I was on trial for my life,
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  Speaker 1: I would hope that my family, at the very least,
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  Speaker 1: would be in my camp, at least until evidence was presented.
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  Speaker 1: But it seems like everybody was like, yeah, seems like
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  Speaker 1: it tracks when they found out that Brian Kohlberger is
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  Speaker 1: the alleged murderer. The U.S. Sun tracked down Brian Kohlberger's
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  Speaker 1: relative and spoke to multiple sources in Las Vegas, where
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  Speaker 1: the majority of Kohlberger's family on his father Michael's side
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  Speaker 1: now reside. Well, that's interesting. I didn't realize they were
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  Speaker 1: here in Las Vegas. Maybe I'll have to do some
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  Speaker 1: reaching out on my own. They migrated over to California
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  Speaker 1: and then Nevada from the East Coast many years ago,
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  Speaker 1: while Michael, his wife Marianne, and three children remained in Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 1: Kohlberger's Las Vegas relatives describe the case as surreal, with
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  Speaker 1: many trying to distance themselves from what has become one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest murder cases in recent years. Some claimed
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  Speaker 1: although the 28-year-old was an odd character and very reclusive
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  Speaker 1: growing up, he never showed any signs of violence, and
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  Speaker 1: many were left stunned when he was named a suspect.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody ever wants to accept that their family member or
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  Speaker 1: their friend was a suspect. or somebody they love, is
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  Speaker 1: capable of great evil. And I know I wouldn't want
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  Speaker 1: to accept it either. I would need to be shown evidence, right?
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  Speaker 1: Show me that evidence. And once I saw the evidence, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: that would change things. But going into it, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: want to believe that my loved one, my cousin, my brother, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: is capable of this. Koberger is set to face trial
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  Speaker 1: over the fatal stabbings of Madison Mogan, 21, Kaylee Gonsalves, 21,
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  Speaker 1: Zanna Kernodle, 20, and Ethan Chapin, 20. on November 13th
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  Speaker 1: of 2022. The suspect allegedly broke into their home in
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  Speaker 1: the early hours of the morning and killed them before
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  Speaker 1: fleeing the scene, according to court documents. Pre-trial hearings have
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  Speaker 1: been pushed back to October 26 due to an unspecified illness,
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  Speaker 1: while Kohlberger remains in a maximum security cell in Latah
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  Speaker 1: County Jail in Moscow, Idaho. So there's been a ton
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  Speaker 1: of delays here And I would expect there is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a ton more, unfortunately. This is a very,
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  Speaker 1: very complex case. And perhaps the most complex case in
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  Speaker 1: the history of Idaho. So it's going to take them time.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to have to work their way through it.
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  Speaker 1: And there's going to be all kinds of twists and
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  Speaker 1: turns as we continue to make our way to the trial.
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  Speaker 1: His aunt, who asked to remain anonymous, told the U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Sun that she's been struggling to watch the news as
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  Speaker 1: more details from that fateful night emerge. When I saw
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  Speaker 1: it on TV, I was just lost for words. Speechless,
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  Speaker 1: she said, appearing visibly upset. Imagine hearing that your nephew
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  Speaker 1: was accused of something like this? Talk about jarring. Get
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  Speaker 1: up in the morning, throw on a cup of joe,
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  Speaker 1: sitting down watching the news, next thing you know, your
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  Speaker 1: nephew pops up on TV and he's being accused of this?
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  Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking. I'm a very caring person. And when I
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  Speaker 1: saw the news a little bit today in the living room,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't take it. Hearing about them being knifed, I
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  Speaker 1: had goosebumps. I just cried. And I think that's what
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  Speaker 1: any decent person would feel. The four young students were
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  Speaker 1: viciously attacked in their beds and died sometime after 2 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: from multiple stab wounds, according to court documents. More along
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  Speaker 1: the lines about 4 a.m. And we know now that
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  Speaker 1: all of them weren't attacked in their beds. That was
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  Speaker 1: the original narrative, that they were all asleep when these
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  Speaker 1: attacks occurred. But we know that's not the case. We
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  Speaker 1: know that there was a struggle. in the room with
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  Speaker 1: Madison and with Kaylee. And we also know, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: that Zanna was awake at this time as well. Prosecutors
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  Speaker 1: have said a DNA sample taken from Kohlberger was a
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  Speaker 1: near match to the sample taken from a sheath left
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  Speaker 1: at the off-campus home where the murders occurred. His aunt
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  Speaker 1: says she may not watch the trial if cameras are
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  Speaker 1: allowed in the courtroom, but wants to know answers to
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  Speaker 1: many questions surrounding the murders. That sounds logical to me.
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  Speaker 1: You would think that if your nephew was accused of this,
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  Speaker 1: you'd want all the details. I'm going to need to
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  Speaker 1: know every last detail. Asked if she thinks that her
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  Speaker 1: nephew will be found guilty, she replied, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I just want the truth. I would like to see
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  Speaker 1: him or write to him and find out what happened.
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  Speaker 1: She said that her heart goes out to the victim's families,
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  Speaker 1: but she also feels Kohlberger was not well and had
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  Speaker 1: battled for years with mental health problems. That's no excuse,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not justification. How many people out there battle
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  Speaker 1: with mental health problems and are able to lead a,
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  Speaker 1: you know, halfway normal life? At the very least, not
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  Speaker 1: murder people. Kohlberger was pictured wearing a suicide prevention vest
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  Speaker 1: while being held at the Monroe County Correctional Facility following
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  Speaker 1: his initial arrest in December last year. Questioned on how
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  Speaker 1: she feels he will cope if he gets life behind bars,
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  Speaker 1: his aunt shook her head and replied, I think he
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  Speaker 1: may try to kill himself. Koberger has always maintained his innocence,
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  Speaker 1: and sources previously told News Nation that the former criminology
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  Speaker 1: student remains confident he's going to be exonerated. When charges
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  Speaker 1: were read in court, his attorney said, Your Honor, we
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  Speaker 1: are standing silent. And the judge then entered not guilty pleas,
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  Speaker 1: on Kohlberger's behalf, which often occurs in criminal cases. No,
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  Speaker 1: not really. Up in Idaho, it's something that occurs, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not normal. You don't see people standing around and
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  Speaker 1: standing in silence in most cases. But the idea up
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  Speaker 1: in Idaho, at least according to the legal experts, was
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  Speaker 1: so that Brian Kohlberger could challenge the grand jury indictment
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  Speaker 1: against him. Odd behavior. He is likely to do the
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  Speaker 1: same and plead the fifth at trial, which is expected
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  Speaker 1: to last up to six weeks. Due to a wide-ranging
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  Speaker 1: gag order, few details have emerged about the Grizzly case,
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  Speaker 1: and police have not released a potential motive. His aunt
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  Speaker 1: explained that there had been a lot of drama in
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  Speaker 1: the family, which cannot be revealed for legal reasons, even
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  Speaker 1: before her nephew's arrest, and she has not spoken to
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  Speaker 1: his parents. But she has been told that they are
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  Speaker 1: devastated and their worlds turned upside down. and she was
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  Speaker 1: initially advised by other relatives to stay silent about her nephew.
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  Speaker 1: They are Christians, very religious, she added. Having flown her
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  Speaker 1: nephew and his family over to Las Vegas on a
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  Speaker 1: handful of occasions when he was a teenager, she described
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  Speaker 1: him as shy and a troubled teenager. She claimed she
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  Speaker 1: was aware of him suffering depressive episodes and was told
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  Speaker 1: he was on medication, although she is not sure what
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  Speaker 1: he was prescribed by the doctors. To me, he was
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  Speaker 1: humble and quiet. I didn't see any violence in him,
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  Speaker 1: she said. But if you're not on the right medication,
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  Speaker 1: you can be triggered. I think he might have snapped.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for why he was depressed.
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  Speaker 1: I guarantee he had a wonderful childhood. Michael, his dad,
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  Speaker 1: is a wonderful man. He was a janitor and his
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  Speaker 1: wife is a beautiful woman. She's a teacher and they
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  Speaker 1: worked at the same school. Drug taking. I flew Brian
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  Speaker 1: and his family out here a few times. Once I
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  Speaker 1: told Brian I would show him all around Vegas, but
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  Speaker 1: the odd thing was he stayed in the house. She
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  Speaker 1: says she suspected he was taking drugs at the time,
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  Speaker 1: as it has previously been reported he became a big
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  Speaker 1: heroin addict after falling in with the wrong crowd. His
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  Speaker 1: aunt says it was no big secret that he was
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  Speaker 1: into the drug scene, and she was concerned he was
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  Speaker 1: also doing cocaine, mushrooms, drinking hard liquor, and popping pills
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  Speaker 1: to deal with mental health issues. All of that that
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  Speaker 1: she says right there was a typical Friday night for
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  Speaker 1: me growing up here in Las Vegas if I'm being real.
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  Speaker 1: So that's no justification. She had hoped that he had
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  Speaker 1: gotten clean and believed he had an interest in criminology
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  Speaker 1: as others in the family studied forensics and some of
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  Speaker 1: his uncles have a military background. Former friends have previously
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  Speaker 1: spoken out to allege he sought to be the alpha
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  Speaker 1: among his pals after struggling with his weight during his
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  Speaker 1: younger years. He later reportedly got into kickboxing and became vegan,
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  Speaker 1: while friends claim he got more aggressive as he got
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  Speaker 1: in shape. His aunt says she hadn't seen her nephew
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  Speaker 1: in more than five years before his arrest. She says
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  Speaker 1: she has been left shaken by the details that have
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  Speaker 1: emerged since and feels for his immediate family. Kohlberger's parents
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  Speaker 1: and two sisters, Amanda and Melissa, have shown support for
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  Speaker 1: him and believe he is innocent as they are cooperating
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  Speaker 1: with law enforcement. They were last seen arriving at court
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  Speaker 1: with their faces covered during a January hearing as a
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  Speaker 1: woman believed to be one of his sisters comforted his mother.
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  Speaker 1: They are said to be struggling financially as his sisters
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  Speaker 1: were also reportedly fired from their jobs as therapists due
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  Speaker 1: to their association with the suspect. That is all stupid.
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  Speaker 1: How are you going to fire his sisters because he's
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  Speaker 1: a moron? That's just not right. And anybody who engages
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  Speaker 1: in that kind of behavior... should be held accountable. There
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  Speaker 1: should be some kind of fair practice hiring laws for
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. You can't discriminate against somebody because their
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  Speaker 1: relative does something stupid. I mean, these people are suffering enough.
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  Speaker 1: And I looked at his sisters getting fired as punitive punishment,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think it's right. But hearing from his aunt,
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  Speaker 1: it's certainly interesting to get the perspective of people that
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  Speaker 1: knew him, his family members, or otherwise, as we continue
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  Speaker 1: to unravel the mystery of what happened at 1122 King Road.
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