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SMNTY Classics: The Last of Us Special, Episode 6 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Serd and Samantha. Welcome stuff. I never
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  Speaker 1: told you protection of iHeartRadio, and we are back with
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  Speaker 1: our classic miniseries run of our Last of Us episodes
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  Speaker 1: that we did when the show was premiering last year.
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  Speaker 1: I think time feels so but I have been, as
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  Speaker 1: you listeners know, if you've been regularly tuning in, things
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  Speaker 1: have been busy for us. Things have been busy, a
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  Speaker 1: little chaotic. We did go to Seattle, and when I
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  Speaker 1: got back, of course, one of the first things I
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  Speaker 1: did was start playing the Last of Us two again,
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  Speaker 1: which takes place in Seattle, and Samantha and her partner
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  Speaker 1: have been getting a lot of just screenshots.
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  Speaker 2: From me, like, look, fantastic, it's that place, it's this place,
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  Speaker 2: it is that place you went without me.
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  Speaker 1: Well only a few of them are that, but one specifically. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: the theater and the aquarium, the big ones.
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  Speaker 2: But no, no, I'm thinking about us going without you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh all right, well the toll is though. Now you
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  Speaker 1: have to play that part with me and tell me
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  Speaker 1: how accurate it is.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, Well, we're trying to do this Sunday Sunday Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: and I guess we're going to have to run through
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of Last of Us because as we
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  Speaker 3: do or don't do this Sunday Sunday Sunday feel like
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  Speaker 3: we add on to the traditions, and Last of Us
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  Speaker 3: does make SENSEI last time.
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  Speaker 2: You came through, we did turn it on for you,
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  Speaker 2: and you cried.
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  Speaker 1: I cried so hard I ended up hurting my ears.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what part of loving something sad is. But
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  Speaker 1: there is one section, and it's pretty early on where
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  Speaker 1: a lot of those those things we went to see are,
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  Speaker 1: so I already have it kind of planned if we
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  Speaker 1: do it part we need to play this section in
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  Speaker 1: episode six, Ken is when they reach Jackson and they
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  Speaker 1: reunite with Joel's brother Tommy, and they kind of see
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  Speaker 1: the whole town. This is a big This town is
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  Speaker 1: a big part of the second one, and already the
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  Speaker 1: way it's set up, that's how it looks in the
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  Speaker 1: second game. So this episode, when you're seeing where Tommy
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  Speaker 1: lives and all of that Maria lives, that is very
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  Speaker 1: important to the second game. So I'll say that, I'll
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  Speaker 1: say that, yes, well, please enjoy this classic episod. Hey
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  Speaker 1: this Sanny and Samantha and welcome to Stephan never told
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  Speaker 1: you a protection of iHeartRadio. And here we are with
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  Speaker 1: our part six. We love our special The Last of Us,
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  Speaker 1: a mini series where we recap and react to the
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  Speaker 1: HBO Max series The Last of Us, based on the
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  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen game of which I am a huge fan.
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  Speaker 1: We are not the official podcast, and in fact, somebody
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  Speaker 1: texted me the other day and was like, I heard
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  Speaker 1: this on the podcast and I was like, oh really,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. They're like, oh, it's not your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well thanks, but yes, we
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  Speaker 1: are not the official podcast, but we are one that
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  Speaker 1: I think has some good points and some good thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: And some fun times. We have fun times, we do.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, this is mini series. We are doing it one
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  Speaker 1: week after the most recent episode airs, so this is
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  Speaker 1: one week after episode six, which is called Kin and
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  Speaker 1: there are nine episodes of this series. So the final episode,
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  Speaker 1: probably unless we do a two parter, which is possible,
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  Speaker 1: will be March nineteenth, because the finale of the show
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  Speaker 1: is March twelfth, So after that we will go back
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  Speaker 1: to our regularly scheduled programming slash my Happy Hours, which
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  Speaker 1: have been moved all about for the Saturday episodes. Also,
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  Speaker 1: there will be spoilers for the first six episodes of
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  Speaker 1: the series. Samantha is my guardian and making sure I
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  Speaker 1: don't spoil the whole thing. And this one's gonna be tough.
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  Speaker 1: This one's tough, I'm gonna say, but I think we
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  Speaker 1: can do it.
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  Speaker 2: I think we can do it. We got this, we
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  Speaker 2: got this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, are you ready for my wonderful recap?
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  Speaker 1: Samantha gives the best recaps. I am so ready.
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  Speaker 3: Right so again, because this is an HBO Max show.
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  Speaker 3: Just as a reminder of content warning, there's violence and
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  Speaker 3: sadness and trauma all throughout, which is right up. Annie's Allie,
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  Speaker 3: that is what she loves. And yes, so if you
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  Speaker 3: haven't watched the six episode six pause, go watch come back, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: because my explanation is so good, it's like you're watching
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  Speaker 3: it as I'm speaking about I'm sure sure, Okay, So
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  Speaker 3: we are back with Ellie and Joel, who all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden we come into a picture of a cabin.
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  Speaker 3: Dude someone someone is walking with rabbits. There was a
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  Speaker 3: lot of conversations that happened, by the way, at our
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  Speaker 3: place about the rabbits. We're not gonna tell you why,
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  Speaker 3: but there were conversations just so you know. And then
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  Speaker 3: we walk in and you see the character's name is Florence,
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  Speaker 3: a Native woman who is just chilling in her chair
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  Speaker 3: while Joel is sitting next to her or does he
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  Speaker 3: say no, he comes out. He comes out with a gun.
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  Speaker 3: It is like a rut row, and we find out
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  Speaker 3: that Joel's trying to get information, trying to figure out
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  Speaker 3: where they are exactly because they need to find Tommy,
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  Speaker 3: and then trying to figure out, you know, where it's
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  Speaker 3: the closest area to any headquarters.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Essentially, that's what he says, and we have this great
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  Speaker 3: banter that this low key banter that's happening between Florence
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  Speaker 3: and the other character is Marlin, who, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: we just discovered that they were together in an old
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  Speaker 3: nineties sitcom called The Northern Exposure, which I remember. I
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  Speaker 3: did not watch, but I remember because it was really
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  Speaker 3: big for five years. Apparently this was like a mini
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  Speaker 3: reunion for the two of them, And I really feel
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  Speaker 3: like this is.
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  Speaker 2: For those nineties adults who know if you know, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, yeah, And I also feel like there's low key,
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  Speaker 3: like if anybody's gonna survive an apocalypse, it's the indigenous
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  Speaker 3: people of this area. I think they're right, but whatever,
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  Speaker 3: So we have this fun banter that happens between the
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  Speaker 3: two of them. All of a sudden, She's like, she's
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  Speaker 3: got a good he's got a gun, and there's a girl.
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  Speaker 3: And then Ellie kind OF's like hey, and he and
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  Speaker 3: then Joel's like stay up there. And she comes down
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  Speaker 3: and everybody's like, what's happening? But there they all have
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  Speaker 3: sit down. Turns out that Florence made them soup. They
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  Speaker 3: were very hungry, they were very thankful. And the dude
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  Speaker 3: Marlin's like, what why did you make them soup?
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  Speaker 1: Cold?
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  Speaker 3: It's cold, they're here, Why wouldn't I He's like, why
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  Speaker 3: didn't you get the gun? She goes because it's way
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  Speaker 3: over there. It's fine. So wonderful moment, and we do
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  Speaker 3: discover through this conversation that this area is kind of barren,
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  Speaker 3: not a lot of infected because it's pretty much just
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  Speaker 3: too far out, not enough civilization, and not a lot
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  Speaker 3: of supplies.
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  Speaker 2: All of these things.
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  Speaker 3: They do say that it is the River of Death,
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  Speaker 3: they call it, and that the only thing they know
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  Speaker 3: is when people go out. They don't come back, and
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  Speaker 3: they're but dead bodies everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Don't go.
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  Speaker 3: He does give them the area they're at. He doesn't
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  Speaker 3: know a tommy. They don't even know about fireflies. They
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  Speaker 3: think it's hilarious. They're like, there are people that are fireflies. Hilarious,
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  Speaker 3: there are firefly people. And so they go on together.
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  Speaker 3: Ellie steals a rabbit, and as they're in a cave
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  Speaker 3: together trying to stay warm, she's like, man, I should
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  Speaker 3: have taken two rabbits.
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  Speaker 2: All these things.
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  Speaker 3: They have a whole conversation about He's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a sheep farmer, that's what he said. Being he tries
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  Speaker 3: to get her to go to sleep. He says he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna keep watch, but he of course falls asleep and
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  Speaker 3: to only see that Ellie's awake and has the gun.
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  Speaker 3: She had taken the second shift. He's like, wake me up.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, you weren't awake. Of course I wouldn't take
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  Speaker 3: the second shift. And he's like, well, next time, wake
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  Speaker 3: me because you can't be doing this. I have to
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  Speaker 3: take care of you. She's like, you then stay awake.
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  Speaker 3: In a story, So they move on. They shoot it
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  Speaker 3: off into the water to see like towards the water,
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  Speaker 3: if anybody's gonna come towards them, they think they're safe.
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  Speaker 2: They go to the second part.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, wait, what if this is a rever death
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  Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden they are surrounded.
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  Speaker 2: By pretty much cowboys. I'm just going with.
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  Speaker 3: That, and they're like, oh no, what's happening. They've got
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  Speaker 3: a dog. This dog stiffs out the infected.
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  Speaker 2: Oh scary moment. Scary moment. And during these times, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, Joel's having panic attacks. This is fairly new.
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  Speaker 2: I did not see this in the video game.
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  Speaker 3: I guess you can't really play that in the video game,
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  Speaker 3: but we see this here. So he's having panic attacks.
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  Speaker 3: At this point, he's thinking, oh no, Ellie's gonna get eaten.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no.
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  Speaker 3: But then everything turns out okay. She's having a good
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  Speaker 3: time with the dog. She loves dogs. Here anyway, moving on,
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  Speaker 3: and so then we see him talking to them and
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  Speaker 3: they're like, what do you want. We'll let you pass
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  Speaker 3: if you do these things, or you need to move along,
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  Speaker 3: and then he's like, I'm trying to find Tommy. And
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  Speaker 3: then we see this woman come up and more like
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  Speaker 3: oh and she's like, oh, how do you know Tommy?
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  Speaker 2: And then they go.
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  Speaker 3: Into this wonderful town, very western looking and has all
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  Speaker 3: electricity and supplies and children and happiness is kind of odd,
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  Speaker 3: and we find out that Tommy is.
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  Speaker 2: There, holy crap.
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  Speaker 3: And the person who led them as a woman named Maria.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know the significance, but she seems to know Joel.
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  Speaker 3: Here they take Ellie to get cleaned up while Joel
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  Speaker 3: sits and talks to Tommy and Maria.
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  Speaker 2: We here we also discover them Maria's his wife.
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  Speaker 3: And because Joel is Joel, he can't be happy for anybody.
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  Speaker 3: And Joel Ellie is like, well, congratulations, and here she's
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  Speaker 3: like telling them congratulations, and of course he does the
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  Speaker 3: voice of congratulations.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how we move on.
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  Speaker 3: And then we see that the children of this town
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  Speaker 3: is finding Ellie odd because she is very loud, outspoken
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  Speaker 3: and cursing and all these things.
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  Speaker 2: Like what who are you?
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  Speaker 3: They are very intrigued and they have to explain. Maria
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  Speaker 3: explains that the kids aren't used to kids like you.
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  Speaker 3: That's how I leave it. There might have been a
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  Speaker 3: cameo by someone that I didn't realize was there. But
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  Speaker 3: maybe we're moving on there. We go on to see
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  Speaker 3: that Tommy and Joel go to a bar to have
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  Speaker 3: a conversation while Ellie is being cleaned up, takes a shower,
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  Speaker 3: gets some new clothes. There's a hoodie that and he's
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  Speaker 3: very fond of that she wore for the viewing.
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  Speaker 2: That looks exactly like it so it doesn't zip up.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, yes, well in a game, it doesn't. Okay, good
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  Speaker 1: to note I did.
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  Speaker 3: I got very We're sure it's worth hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 3: of dollars.
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  Speaker 2: But then we find.
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  Speaker 3: Out during the bar at the bar scene, like he's like,
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  Speaker 3: we gotta go, why are you here, Let's leave. I
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  Speaker 3: came to rescue, you know, being funny. And then it
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  Speaker 3: turns out Tommy is expecting a kid. Maria's pregnant rot Roe,
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  Speaker 3: which is a deviation from the game, just an fyi,
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  Speaker 3: and so that's like he doesn't say congratulations, nothing, and
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  Speaker 3: Tommy's like, I hope I make a good father, and
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  Speaker 3: he was like, I guess we'll find out.
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  Speaker 2: Not cool, bro, Not cool.
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  Speaker 3: We go back to Ellie, who is all clean and refreshed,
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  Speaker 3: and we see this layout of clothes for her again,
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  Speaker 3: that hoodie we just talked about and a diva cup
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  Speaker 3: very important.
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  Speaker 2: I really like that detail BT dubs.
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  Speaker 3: She comes downstairs and this is Tommy and Maria's place,
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  Speaker 3: and we see a little shrine with the name Sarah
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  Speaker 3: and Kevin, and if you know, you know that Sarah
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  Speaker 3: is Joel's kid, and so they Tommy obviously put that there, and.
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  Speaker 2: We find out that Kevin is u Maria's kid who
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  Speaker 2: had died.
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  Speaker 3: At this point, she kind of has a banter moment
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  Speaker 3: with Ellie which Ellie is like, thanks for the weird gift,
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  Speaker 3: the diva cup, and She's like, she'll let you want
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  Speaker 3: it someday. Is a good gaus her nice purple thick jacket.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently Ellie doesn't like purple. I don't know, she just
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  Speaker 3: is very purple. And then she talks about Kevin being
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  Speaker 3: Maria's son, and then morning and then Maria kind of
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  Speaker 3: eLink does does talk about Sarah to her to Ellie
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  Speaker 3: because Ellie had no idea, she didn't even know who
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  Speaker 3: she was, that he even had a kid.
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  Speaker 2: So she gets that information.
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  Speaker 3: She gets a haircut as well, find out that Maria
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  Speaker 3: was an attorney once upon a time, but she really
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  Speaker 3: liked cutting hair.
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  Speaker 2: All of these things and then it was you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, made a conversation about alluding to Joel's past not
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  Speaker 3: being great, but Ellie's like, I know, don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 3: I can take care of myself, and then she takes
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  Speaker 3: her to the movie. So we're guessing at this point
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  Speaker 3: in time the accus he probably didn't have all of
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  Speaker 3: those types of things. So this was neat to see.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever movie was playing, though sounded really awful. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, if you're watching on in this theater
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  Speaker 3: scene and there's a girl that she said next to
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  Speaker 3: was the one that was giving her weird looks or
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: was watching her closely and was weirded out by at
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  Speaker 3: the beginning, and when she first comes in, you need
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  Speaker 3: to know her. Gona say that, okay, And so at
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  Speaker 3: this point in time, Tommy's trying to find Joel because
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  Speaker 3: Joel of course disappears because Joel is Joel being sad
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  Speaker 3: murdered at and Joel is in I guess, uh, what's
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  Speaker 3: a shoe or player of plays trying to repair his boots.
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  Speaker 3: But Tommy comes and gives them a new pair and
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  Speaker 3: he's like, I got you this, and they have a
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  Speaker 3: real upfront conversation and here we find Joel freaking out,
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  Speaker 3: thinking that he's pretty much getting too old, afraid that
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  Speaker 3: he's going to get her killed, and afraid that he's
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  Speaker 3: going to see another person, another child die who he
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  Speaker 3: regards and loves dearly. So he's trying to get Tommy
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  Speaker 3: to go and take Ellie.
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  Speaker 2: After Joel reveals.
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  Speaker 3: That she is immune, tells him everything that happened through
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  Speaker 3: in the past and all these things and how important
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  Speaker 3: it is, and it finally admits a test died. But
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: by the way, at the very beginning, Tommy's like house tests,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: and of course jop is like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's fine, what the hell and moving.
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  Speaker 3: On, And so it is decided that Tommy will take
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  Speaker 3: her to the hospital to the fireflies. Unbeknownst to them,
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  Speaker 3: Ellie had been listening. So when he goes to the
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  Speaker 3: house where they are staying currently, Ellie says.
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  Speaker 2: You know, why didn't you just ditch me?
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  Speaker 3: And this scene plays out which we do see this
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  Speaker 3: line by line I believe in the game, in which
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: he's just like, you know, I didn't trust anyone. You're
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  Speaker 3: the only one. I've lost so money people, and he's like,
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  Speaker 3: you don't know, law stop talking about Sarah.
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  Speaker 2: And he's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, he's wrong that just because you have
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: lost some daughter doesn't negate anybody else's loss, just to
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: go ahead and put that out there. So he's like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to do, you know, put you in danger.
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  Speaker 3: This is for you. And then when he gets mad,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: he pushes her away and walks out, and she's sad.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, that diary scene does happen also
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  Speaker 3: in the game, because she's like, oh, that is all
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  Speaker 3: they worried about is boys and matching clothes. That's so odd.
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  Speaker 3: And so we come into the morning, she's sitting waiting.
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  Speaker 3: Tommy comes to get her. They go to for the horses.
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  Speaker 3: Joel was sitting there with a horse and he's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to steal a horse, and which Tommy's like,
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  Speaker 3: we would have given you a horse, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: Joel is Joel, and so he's like, you know, I've
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  Speaker 3: been sitting here for thirty minutes, and she's like, what
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  Speaker 3: does that mean. He's like, you know, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: give you a choice, and she's like, yeah, let's go,
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  Speaker 3: me and you, Me and you. So they hop on
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  Speaker 3: they ride off the horse together and I believe they
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  Speaker 3: talked about a baby horse that's shimmer.
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  Speaker 1: Shimmer, Yeah, Shimmer.
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  Speaker 2: Sticks around y'all, just because you need to know.
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  Speaker 3: All these animals are not really important, but there are
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  Speaker 3: like they use these neighbor I mean, like it could
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  Speaker 3: have been anything, like if they had diverted from those,
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  Speaker 3: it wouldn't have been a big deal. But they holding
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  Speaker 3: close to the game, but putting these even like animal
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  Speaker 3: as the actual ones. So be, and we move on
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  Speaker 3: and they're riding and they get to the hospital. But
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: in between this they're having a lot of like interactions
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  Speaker 3: that he tries to teach her how to use the gun,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: talks about how he what he really wants in the future, and.
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  Speaker 2: Not being a sheep hurting farmer. So it was really sweet.
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  Speaker 3: You see them really getting close at this point.
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  Speaker 2: And then we come to the hospital. Oh there's no guards.
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  Speaker 3: They go in and we him see him pick up
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  Speaker 3: a note, which finally that's in the game. He picks
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  Speaker 3: up the notes to show that they had all left.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: They'd abandoned very quickly because something had happened. And so
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: also she sees animals like monkeys, which is like that's
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: the thing which we've all had the debate about like, well,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: can the monkeys be can the animals be infected?
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I guess not? Moving on, and.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: They hear noises more monkeys, and then they look outside
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: and realize, oh, raiders. So they try to sneak away,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: even though I think their horse has already been spotted.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: But as they do, someone comes running to attack Joel.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: They get into a fight. Joel brace's neck real gruesome,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: turns around and oh my god, he's been stabbed. We
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: see the apparently he didn't feel it. And then the
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: rest of the crew come out running. All they get
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: in the horse to run away. She fired some shots.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: They think they got away, and the last thing we
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: see is Joel falling off the horse, in which she's
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: begging him that she doesn't know what she's going to
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: do alone. She can't survive alone, and for him to
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: open his eyes in the story, yeah, and and he's
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: crying a lot.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: As It was funny because again we watched these together
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and I got the question beforehand, like what is the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: cry scale? And I was like, well, I feel like
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: it was going to count. It was going to depend
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: on how much they leaned into their what I called
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the come to Jesus moment, which, by the way, Samantha
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: knows I was very annoying about it, but I called
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: what was gonna.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: So I've gotten a few techs since then telling me
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: she called it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I definitely yeah. So excellent. Recamp is always Samantha. There
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: is a lot to cover in this one, and just
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: to reiterate, there's only three episodes left, so we're moving
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: very quickly. We're moving very very quickly. A lot of
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: the things that I want to talk about overarching I'm
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: going to do in the final part whatever episodes we
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: do of the last episode, but just because I don't
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: want to spoil it, but so keep that in mind.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I did want to say the game, the first game
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: is split into seasons. Summer. It starts in summer. It's
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the longest season. Winter is the third season, which is
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: where we are now. It's the scariest season in my opinion,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: but we'll see if people feel like that. But the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: seasons do get progressively short, so summer is the longest
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and then fall, and so it's moving quickly. I did
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: want to call out the grumpy couple, Florence and Marlin.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: They were excellent, amazing, yes, and I saw so many headlines.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: So the next day I woke up really early and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I was just like reading headlines about that episode, and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: so many were like I would just watch a whole
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: show that was just then. Agreed, Agreed, they were so good.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: This is This is definitely a turning point with Joel
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and Ellie's relationship in terms of like coming to coming
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: to terms with what they're going to be moving forward,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: and uh, throughout is kind of this theme of like
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Ellie asking Joel to teach her things and then eventually
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Joel finally teaching her those things, like teaching her at
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a hunt, teaching her how to shoot, all of that stuff. Certainly,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Jackson was cool to see a place that works, as
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Ellie says, a place that works. And Marie and Maria
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: is one of my very favorites. She's played by Rutina
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Elson in this from True Blood.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, we were very excited to see her because it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: been I mean, she's been in several successful shows since then,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: but we always love an icon coming back. So having
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: her being a part of the show, which I did
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: not expect. I knew about Nick Offerman and Melanie from Yellowjacket,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: but I did not know that Routina was going to
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: be on this I am very excited to see her
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: and I will fight anyone who does not like her.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: As Maria, she.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Was amazing and yeah, in the show, she's like kind
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: of like Sarah, a very white, blonde, blue eyed. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: this was a nice change of pace and like, she
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: did an excellent, excellent job. And Maria is one of
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: my very favorites. And she is another example of women
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: in this game series in the show being a leader,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: like continuing to be these leaders even though she says,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: like you know, we're democratically elected, which they are in Jackson.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: She is like a very driving force, right and she's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: very very respected in Jackson. And you do get a
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: lot more of her backstory than you do in the game,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: like being the lawyer, the attorney, having a kid, all
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: of those things. It's kind of interesting because in the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: game she uh, the game kind of plays out differently
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: with how the whole like I'm giving you Elie, Tommy,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: please take her wherein like he convinces Tommy like, oh,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: you have to take care. You care about this stuff.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I don't. We're going to talk more about the changes
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: they made with Joel's character in a second way like
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and then Maria yelling at Joel like if he dies
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and it's on you again, there's no old child's That
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: was an introduction, like Maria being pregnant was new for
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the show. I still thought it was really interesting that
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: they included, like, be careful who you put your faith in.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: That was Maria's advice right to Ellie after they sort
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: of had this contentious early a conversation about Joel, and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: she doesn't trust Joel with Tommy that like in the game,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: she doesn't in the show she doesn't. She knows about
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the past that they had and it's not that she's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: in any way like cruel, she just doesn't trust him.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: She doesn't trust right, Well, if you've made up this
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: town which is flowing lovely and like nobody's out for themselves,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: which and then you have someone who comes in who
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: still kind of has that mentality of being out you
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: don't know, because it only takes one bad faith move,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: and if he's takes something from somebody, if he destroy something,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: or if you less you know, those things can really
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: disrupt sore you. Bringing in someone who has a reputation
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: for doing whatever he needs to do to survive versus
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: helping a community survive, I would be weary doo.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not easy to make a place like
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: this in this apocalypse. And we'll also talk about this
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: more in the second but like we get kind of
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a glimpse of Joel and Tommy's past and it's not pretty.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: And I think that she's, you know, heard these conversations
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: with her husband about what went down, and is just
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: kind of being cautious with Ellie, like, hey, maybe you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: just just have questions, just be a little be a
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: little wary about this. Also, yeah, the Diva cup. I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: cannot tell you how many articles I was reading giggling
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: in my room, your room that I was staying yes
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and about what is a diva cup? Because like CNN
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: wrote a whole article like are you confused about what
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: that item was? Here's what it is?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Wrong gosh.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love that because you know our listeners
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: that y'all know exactly what it is. We've talked about
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: it for years, has been around for years, and yeah,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's that it would be the
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: smart way to go for that type of emergency. And
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I'm really glad for the first time we see it
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: being addressed instead of.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Just being like everything's fine.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Women's bodies don't work like that. Stop it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Well, I love that they did it. They
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: didn't know, like even with the Tampons in episode three,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: they didn't a way where Elliott has like no shame
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: about it, right, you know, She's in front of this
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: kind of like manly man dude Joel and she's like,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I found this treasure of Tampon's, Like she doesn't care.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: And Craig Mason, who's like the showrunner creator for television,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: he said, when the pandemic first started, uh, he like
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: called his wife and was like, what do I get? Uh,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Tampon's pass dip, Like what do I do? Because he's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: got daughters as well. Uh, And he thought like that
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: should be more represented and more normalized in something like
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: this where it is something she would need, Like it's.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Right, we heart normalizing periods.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I love how she like picks it up and it
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: is like gross, but she's not like really grossed out
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: by it. She's kind of like, oh.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I mean I think we all did that in the
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: first time reaction to a divak, I was like, what
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: is this?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Oh? I don't like, oh.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Wait, you know it's like a right you Oh okay,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: that's the reaction you have with the depicut thatt fart
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: because you don't realize how really well functioning it is.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Right well, it's true. It's just such a like fun
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: kind of interaction of you know, because it's not like
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: it's the most fun process at all. But but it's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: nice to see a character be like, oh gross, but nice,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: that's good.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I have it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also read that they put they made
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the font that said menstrual solution on the front of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: it larger so that people could read it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: And yeah, coognized and said we do this all the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: time and shows with things like guns where we never
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: explained how to load them or we never explain and
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: do that. Why do we have to explain what a
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: deep cup is to people? Which I love? Yeah, okay,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: then I'm just going to run through some quick things
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: and if you've like played the games, are looked up
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: spoilers and you'll know what I'm talking about. But if
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you haven't, then just keep it in the back of
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: your head or forget it.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: You can forget it because it doesn't come around it's
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: not important.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: It's just m.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Because there were a lot of Easter eggs in this one.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: This was a like Easter egg packed episode. Dina, Oh
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: my goodness. I was so excited the next day. It
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: was like this first thing I've said to you, I
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: think shimmered a horse the jacket of the hoodie and
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: then the ranch was sheep. And also Joel saying like,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: actually I'd like to be a musician. Yes, because in
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the first episode we did, I was like the guitar.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: The guitar. Yes, we don't.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I guess we don't have too many flashbacks of him
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: happy times. We just have the one of like how
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: it began, right.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well this brings us to kind of the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: changes they've made with Joel's character in the show, which
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I get why they made them, and I'll have my
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: thoughts in the final episode maybe or maybe the next one,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: who knows, But they've made him softer. He's a he
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: is not nearly a soft are as open with his emotions,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: which some of you listening you've never played the game,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I'd be.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Like, what we never see him cry no?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And that scene where he's like in front of Tommy
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and cry no, never in a million years would have happened.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: And we see him have regrets, yes, but never crying.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, and even that when which we'll talk about in
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a second because it's like famous, but this they're big
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: blowout with Ellie and Joel that he's even he's much
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: harsher in that in the game. But he doesn't that
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: we see he doesn't have panic attacks in the game.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I will say they do have a really good which
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: if you don't care about spoilers, we've talked about in
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: past episodes about the Last of Us. They do have
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a really good depiction of trauma in these games. But
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: like this whole fear of failure, he's kind of freezing
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: up his like fear that his heart will stop. They
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: don't really explore that and his character he is, I mean,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: like the trauma is always apparent. It's just he deals
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: with it in the very cut off way of I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: will not befriend you. Child's all right, Like I think
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a very sad murder dad, right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Sad murder dad. I feel like too.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: As the relationship developed in the game, you don't really
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: see that flip as easily it just like you see
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: the flip in the show we saw the flip. Of course,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: it always happens at the most inopportune time. You were
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: getting too comfortable, audience, This is not going to end well,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: and we just saw that with the ending on this episode,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: which is what made you cry. But like all of
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: those things like that, we don't see that. I don't
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: feel like I built that up in the game. Maybe
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: it was just because it was I was watching it
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: as a game, but it didn't feel like that there
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: was a huge, like big moment. It just kind of
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: gradually happens, and we don't notice it until like when
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: he gets protective right right.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: So in the game, which if you care about spoilers
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: in the game, this isn't much different. But if you
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: care about them, now the time to go. In the game,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: he kind of like Ellie and Joel have their big fight.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: She runs away, which he didn't do in the show.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: She runs away, Tommy and Joel have to go find her.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: They have their whole fight and it's not resolved, and
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: then Joel just kind of decides like he's just just
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, I'll take her. You know what,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: your wife scares me, I'll take her. That's what he says.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: But there's not Yeah, there's not that big like moment
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: or confession from him all. It just sort of happens
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: something else that I noticed. And we've talked about this
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: in previous episodes too. They've definitely made it more realistic
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: in terms of like the affects your body would feel
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: living in this world and especially as you get older.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: And Joel certainly has some internalized ableism, because he was
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: talking about like, you know, if I had just been
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: able to hurt this person here, this person but I'm deaf,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: if I could have just moved faster, but I'm old,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm weak. He says, all I've ever done is fail
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: kind of just like really this thing hanging over him
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: that he's not good enough to protect this, to protect
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: this person, and he does. He doesn't do this in
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the game either, but he kind of has a moment
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: where he's like, if I fail Ellie, like this is it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: She's like the possible cure for humankind. So this is
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: a huge deal and I need someone else who is
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: better than me to take it on, Like he's like
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: feeling that weight. You also see a lot of kind
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of the Ghost of Sarah, the Specter of Sarah his
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: daughter hanging over this whole thing, like there's a flashback
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: where he thinks it's some of the flashback, but he
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: thinks he sees Sarah as an adult with a child
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: of her own, and it's like, oh, that's what I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: could have had. Yeah. You see him kind of lying
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: about tests when him and Tommy have their confrontation about
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: like what Joel did to protect Tommy. Tommy says, life
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: stopped for you. It doesn't have to stop from me,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and kind of referencing the watch which stopped and he
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: still wears when Sarah got shot and died. You do
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: have Ellie learning about Sarah for the first time in
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: the game. It's a photograph she finds and him just
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: being totally unwilling to talk to her about it, not
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: wanting to deal with it. I did think it was
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: interesting in the kind of you know, behind the scenes
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: interview at the end where they were talking about the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: differences between how Maria handled the loss of her child Kevin,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and how all handled the loss of Sarah, and also
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the similarities of Ellie and Joel and how they handle
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: loss because Ellie is kind of like, Hey, I'm sorry
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: for your loss, but I've lost people too, so that's interesting.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you also did. We did get to this
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: big Tommy reunion, and one of the things about that
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: is Joel's been so concerned about you know, Tommy, and
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: he's like, I gotta go save them, and it turns
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: out Tommy's doing well. He's doing like quite well. You
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: do get some hints at they're very very dark past, uh,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: And there are a couple of like in like more
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Easter eggs, like the stealth kill as you were talking
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: about when he breaks that guy's neck. When Joel breaks
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: that guy's neck, that's how you stealth's kill on the game.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: And then also the map trick that they do at
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the beginning.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, that's right, I forgot that that scene.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I do remember them being like at the very beginning,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: like she told me, if yours is different, you're dead.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does happen in the game.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: It does, indeed. Uh. And then yes, the come to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Jesus moment. Like throughout this episode, as I said, like
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you see kind of Ellie being like, hey, if she says,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: if you're dead, I'm to Joel, and then they have
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: this huge fight which kind of cracked me up. But
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: in the post interview thing. They were saying, it's the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: most famous scene in the game. I guess, so, I
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: mean it stuck with me. Yeah, but it is exactly
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: almost exactly like you can watch us side by side
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: like the game, but where Ellie's like essentially like, admit
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: you wanted to leave me this whole time. You've wanted
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: to dish me this whole time, not Sarah like if
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: you can say anything you want, but you're the only
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: one who hasn't left me, and if you do, I'm
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: just gonna be more afraid. Like, don't say it's better
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: for me. I will say, if you get a chance,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you should look at the posters and stuff in the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: room she's in, because it's the room of like a
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: teenage girl before the pandemic, and there's like a like
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: list of hottest boys, like at least posters from things.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: But in the game you see Ellie constantly confused about
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: things like that where she finds this like modeling poster
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: and she's like, why did women feel like they had
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: to be so thin? That doesn't make sense. I would
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: give anything to have food and not be worried about this.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: The vampire romance movies, she doesn't get so that was
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: kind of a fun little nod to that. Well no,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: and after the show thing, they cuignized and said, like,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you know, Joel makes Ellie feel less afraid, but she
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: makes him feel more afraid because it's something you can
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: lose that he's experienced before. And we also get to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: see Ellie's fear of ending up alone, which is her
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: greatest fear kind of playing out. I did think it
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: was interesting because when Joel's like, you deserve a choice,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: like I think you'd be better off with Tommy, but
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: if you want to go with me, and she's immediately like, yes,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: let's go, And that wasn't in the game either. He
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: just kind of was like, get all the worse right,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: We're going together. And then yeah, you do get to
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: see kind of this montage of them bonding, of him
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: teaching her things, of him opening up finally about like, actually,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I'd rather than be a singer if I can be anything.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: He even smiled at one point, WHOA. And we're going
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: to talk about this more in the next episode. But
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the inspiration of the entire game is kind of We're
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: almost at that, and it kind of happens in this mysterious.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I won't say more, but we'll talk about that in
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the next one, and then we do get to see
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I'm starting, yeah, starting to think of like the future,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: what could it be like post infection where Joel says,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, once this ranch was sheep and then
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: actually no, I want to be a musician, and Ellie says,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I want to be an astronut and she she brings
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: up Sally Ride, which was great, and she is super
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: into into space in the in the game, and Sarah
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: was also really into that stuff, so there's that. Also,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the sad song that's playing at the end was the
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Depeche Mode song I'm taking a Ride with my best friend.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's called that, but you do know
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about from the first episode, But they
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: did it again and it was Keaigmuizen's daughter and he
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: was like, I felt like it would be appropriate where
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: because the lyrics are kind of like, I hope he
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: never lets me down again, and it's the daughter singing
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: it this time, and it's h Also, there was definitely
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: a nod to Linda Ronstatz A long long time when
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Tommy Angel were you not If I watched this episode
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: like eight times, Yes I have. I don't want to
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: say I don't think I'm going to go into this
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: too much in this one, but I do want to
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: come back to this because I feel like I was
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: very interested in what would happen in terms of the
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: fandoms between the gamers and people who hadn't played the game,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: who were just watching the show, and I'm I'm starting
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: to see it play out. So I do want to
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: revisit that it was going to be a movie by
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Sam Ramie. I don't know if I ever said that.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: That's disturbing.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and Neil Druckman, the creator of the game,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no no. But I just think
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: that's interesting given some of the conversations that a're playing
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: at right now. Also, I've seen a lot of articles
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: written about parasocial relationships about this. We are going to
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: come back and talk about that. It is interesting, but
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: that's for a later time in the meantime up next.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: If you don't want any spoilers, I'm not gonna spoil it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: But if you don't want to even watch the trailer,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: if you're that kind of person, then hop on out.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: We're gonna see Riley. If you remember from the first episode,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Riley was mentioned mentioned again in the second episode, gonna
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: see kind of Ellie's past. We're gonna get more puns.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I believe that to be true. And we are arriving
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: at what I think is the scariest point in the game.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be the next episode, but we're
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: getting there, so that's big exciting it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Is, and of course we're just gonna hold our breath
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: and hope that everything turns out.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, hmmm, yeah, well it is an apocalypse game, so
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: it I'm.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Sure more death. There's definitely more death. Yes, What do
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: you think on the crying scale would be for the
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: next episode? From one to ten?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Oh? Boy? Uh? I think it depends. I think if
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: you're I feel like I need to have two scales
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: because I feel like, if you're a crier like me
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: who loves the game, I put it at a five
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: to six. If you're not, I'd give it a four. Same.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: But it also depends on what they do, because honestly,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: like what they did with Bill and Frank wasn't in
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the game like that, and it made me sup.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: So there's some what's happening there's some flip.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: There are there are some flips.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I know we're coming to an end, but before we do,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: any would you like to share your favorite punro Will
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Livingstone's pun book.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: This isn't my favorite one. I'll get I'll bring the
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: pun book in next time. But one of my favorite
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: ones is what did the green grape say to the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Purple grape? Breathe you idiot? Perfect that's the top of
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: my head. Oh my well. Thank you as always to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: everyone going on this journey, whether you've played the game,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: seen the show, none of the above. We are having
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I'm having a great.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Time, so we have a very time.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I'm very very excited for the next episode. I'm getting
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: more and more, like just so excited every time. So
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: this has been so fun. If you have any thoughts,
• 42:30
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• 42:34
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• 42:38
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• 42:40
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• 42:42
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• 42:46
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• 42:49
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