Latest / Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash / #138 Guilty Until Proven Otherwise
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- 0:00Speaker 1: You're not going to mention anything about my appearance today.
- 0:02Speaker 2: It's not always about you, bro.
- 0:04Speaker 1: You know, I just got a little haircut and never
- 0:05Speaker 1: said anything.
- 0:06Speaker 2: I did notice it. Well, if you notice it, what
- 0:08Speaker 2: do you say something I would like to see from you?
- 0:10Speaker 1: I've actually gone a bit. This is a bit ash esque.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to see a little bit less side.
- 0:15Speaker 3: Burn less side burn Yeah, what do you mean at
- 0:18Speaker 3: the moment? Less? Like a tape it more more tape
- 0:21Speaker 3: it side back? Yeah it is a bit taped. Yeah,
- 0:24Speaker 3: I really like it. The length of the back Yeah, but.
- 0:26Speaker 2: I think that needs to be shorter. Really.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks good even more. Yeah, just that bit.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I can't tell if you're setting me up.
- 0:34Speaker 3: You're right on track. Okay, I'll show you later what
- 0:36Speaker 3: I mean. Okay, I also got a haircut too, have
- 0:39Speaker 3: you not noticed?
- 0:39Speaker 1: I get sorry? You look great and you've grown a beard. Yeah,
- 0:43Speaker 1: what's going on there?
- 0:45Speaker 2: Me? Life crisis?
- 0:46Speaker 4: Got a I have not seen like a vertle that front.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Welcome back to two dating dads. I am Maddie Jay
- 1:07Speaker 1: and I'm Ash And this is a podcast all about
- 1:09Speaker 1: haircuts apparently. So it's the good, the bad, the good,
- 1:14Speaker 1: the bad, haircuts and the relatable haircuts.
- 1:17Speaker 2: What's a relatable haircut? Which feel age? Just short back
- 1:19Speaker 2: in sides? It is. Yeah, it's been done to death,
- 1:21Speaker 2: hasn't that.
- 1:22Speaker 1: It's a bit it's overkay.
- 1:23Speaker 2: People are leaving the back now because they're like, it's
- 1:25Speaker 2: been done to death.
- 1:26Speaker 1: I feel like I'm jumping really late on the bandwagon
- 1:28Speaker 1: of having it long on the back.
- 1:30Speaker 2: I like it. I think you're in good.
- 1:33Speaker 3: You've got to remember we're in now. Well, you're in
- 1:35Speaker 3: your late thirties, dude.
- 1:36Speaker 1: I was at an event where someone said how old
- 1:40Speaker 1: are you? And I said I'm turning thirty eight and
- 1:42Speaker 1: they went, oh.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Shit, you're almost forty the fuck out. I was like,
- 1:49Speaker 3: how old are you? And they're like, I'm twenty six.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Oh it's wild.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I'm almost forty dude, almost forty on. Hey, you know
- 1:56Speaker 1: what I've noticed is that the biggest change the closer
- 1:59Speaker 1: I get to.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Forty one sec. No advice we'll be giving in this podcast.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Thank you, Let's move forward. Ye, sorry, thank you. The
- 2:05Speaker 3: lawyers were stressing out just then.
- 2:07Speaker 2: I was stressed.
- 2:09Speaker 1: I've noticed that the back hair, like you know you
- 2:13Speaker 1: have a little is it called like a welcome mat.
- 2:16Speaker 3: What's it called above your welcome mat? Yeah, welcome mat
- 2:18Speaker 3: doesn't I don't have it anymore.
- 2:20Speaker 2: You trimmed it? Yeah, go on, just look away.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Oh god, you missed the spot. A couple of little
- 2:31Speaker 1: straight A couple little straight hairs?
- 2:33Speaker 2: Who did that? Was that very hard to shave that region?
- 2:37Speaker 2: This is going to shave that reason? How would you
- 2:39Speaker 2: do it? This is if anyone who know. This is
- 2:41Speaker 2: like the lower back lower above the butt crack. Yeah,
- 2:44Speaker 2: where the love handles are. Yes. For some Jesus, it's
- 2:50Speaker 2: like run where my back six pack is? I do
- 2:55Speaker 2: like the twist, the twist the I go under. Ill
- 3:03Speaker 2: just go right under, and I go from my lower
- 3:06Speaker 2: back right through to my gooch or my taint.
- 3:08Speaker 1: If you would, it looks very good. Why did you
- 3:11Speaker 1: trim yours?
- 3:12Speaker 2: I want to look better at a bathing suit dream winter.
- 3:14Speaker 2: You've had that for a long time. It was creeping
- 3:16Speaker 2: its way up to my shoulders.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Well, dude, that's what That's what I'm experiencing. Mine used
- 3:20Speaker 1: to just be that little part there. It's now like
- 3:23Speaker 1: it's up to my laps.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like two doting granddads. What the fuck.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Why is my pubic hair waited until I've almost hit
- 3:31Speaker 1: the age of forty to then go ah, we will
- 3:34Speaker 1: start growing on the back.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Yes, get it. Boys like you won't.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Notice why now if you're a medical expert, tell me.
- 3:43Speaker 2: But some people were hairy in school, like man children.
- 3:46Speaker 3: I haven't made whose back was back in ass.
- 3:49Speaker 2: Hairy since we were like fourteen. Wow.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Yeah, I only got under our hair when I was eighteen. Yeah,
- 3:56Speaker 1: that's it feels good to get that off my chest.
- 4:00Speaker 1: The look on your face. I remember like every morning
- 4:03Speaker 1: looking under my arms in high school being like come on,
- 4:07Speaker 1: like waiting for that first little sprout to happen in
- 4:10Speaker 1: the garden. I'm like, at any second, now it'll happen.
- 4:12Speaker 2: And kids at school would have given you so much shit.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like swimming carnivals. It was you know, yeah,
- 4:18Speaker 3: it was free. I used to love the old. The
- 4:21Speaker 3: old comeback would be like you thought you had a
- 4:23Speaker 3: pube until you pissed out of it. I never heard
- 4:27Speaker 3: that that was a glassy Oh god, yeah, and you
- 4:30Speaker 3: could get you be like your one you don't have
- 4:32Speaker 3: your pubes, and two you got a tiny dick.
- 4:34Speaker 2: It's like a double up. It's the double, the double
- 4:36Speaker 2: like it's the one too.
- 4:38Speaker 1: A little while ago, Ash, we were talking about the
- 4:40Speaker 1: fact that Oscar had performed very well at his cross country.
- 4:45Speaker 1: What place did he get?
- 4:46Speaker 2: It was ninth But because your shoe fell off, couldn't
- 4:48Speaker 2: catch up.
- 4:49Speaker 1: Of course that morning, who was tying the shoelaces.
- 4:51Speaker 3: I don't know if you recall it was a belt
- 4:53Speaker 3: press shoe. I apologize, Yeah, you should. I apologize, And
- 4:57Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's funny. We don't have country.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Yeah, you were saying from year three up. Yeah, you're wrong.
- 5:04Speaker 2: I was very wrong.
- 5:06Speaker 1: I've tried so hard to subscribe to the school newsletter.
- 5:12Speaker 1: Why would you want to do that, because because things
- 5:15Speaker 1: like cross country, that's how we find out I'm not
- 5:18Speaker 1: good East to have parade.
- 5:20Speaker 2: I'm not getting told anything. I'm in the dark.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Can't you get emails but the newsletter. That's all in
- 5:26Speaker 3: the newsletter, but I don't receive. I purposely gave them
- 5:29Speaker 3: zero emails for me. They go to April.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Would see where opposite and our found that Laura, is
- 5:34Speaker 1: that's true, Laura, that they could be like your child
- 5:37Speaker 1: is being held at gunpoint and you need to come
- 5:40Speaker 1: to the school.
- 5:40Speaker 2: To pick it up.
- 5:41Speaker 1: Pick it up, pick her up, and Laura will like
- 5:44Speaker 1: see that like a week later and be like, where's
- 5:46Speaker 1: where's Marley? A week can still being held hostage. She
- 5:49Speaker 1: doesn't read her emails. Yeah, okay, god love her.
- 5:52Speaker 2: You and April together would be terrible. Me and Laura
- 5:54Speaker 2: together terrible.
- 5:55Speaker 1: So it works if we ever are inclined to swap partners.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Let's just remember this conver station. Well we know, it's
- 6:02Speaker 1: just on that really quick.
- 6:02Speaker 3: I ever went to a party and there was a
- 6:04Speaker 3: bowl at the front that said three keys in here
- 6:06Speaker 3: as a joke.
- 6:07Speaker 2: I must have been a joke. Must have been which party?
- 6:10Speaker 2: A birthday party? Don't know, but we're going back next week.
- 6:15Speaker 1: So my sister goes to the same school. Sister is
- 6:17Speaker 1: very like, she's.
- 6:18Speaker 2: How old is your sister?
- 6:19Speaker 1: I mean very good, very good, very good, very good,
- 6:23Speaker 1: some of your best work now. But she is she's
- 6:25Speaker 1: dialed in to the to the school newsletter. She is
- 6:28Speaker 1: the kind of mum who like works at the canteen.
- 6:31Speaker 2: You write it right the school.
- 6:33Speaker 1: She's pretty she's the editor. She's the editor. And she
- 6:37Speaker 1: was like, hey, you got next Wednesday? You got She
- 6:39Speaker 1: actually listened to the podcast and was like, just you
- 6:41Speaker 1: know you do have a cross country it is coming up,
- 6:45Speaker 1: so you are welcome, and I was like fuck. I
- 6:47Speaker 1: was like, So I went to Marley and I was like,
- 6:49Speaker 1: she's actually a pretty good runner. Not to like and
- 6:52Speaker 1: I sound like a like my child is.
- 6:54Speaker 2: So fast, so small, so fast, she could fly.
- 6:59Speaker 1: But I sat her down and I was like, hey,
- 7:02Speaker 1: you got something coming up and it's going to be
- 7:04Speaker 1: very exciting. I used to like cross country.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Yep. He used to be the champion of my school.
- 7:11Speaker 2: We're going to sit here and he's going to glowed
- 7:13Speaker 2: about you.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Went to regionals, went to my auntie.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Actually regionals on carry on.
- 7:21Speaker 1: We had zones and then we had regionals after zones.
- 7:25Speaker 1: I was one step away from making states.
- 7:27Speaker 2: I'm standing by it.
- 7:30Speaker 3: When you get to ausiess brod you make ouzies.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Oh yeah for what?
- 7:34Speaker 3: Lots of things go on to my jump, long jump
- 7:38Speaker 3: four hundred meters, beach sprinting flags, battle board.
- 7:42Speaker 2: I was trying to have a moment and anything else
- 7:46Speaker 2: I can I could.
- 7:46Speaker 1: The list goes on, yeah, well what happened here?
- 7:49Speaker 2: Ah beer, Well he's naturally sad.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Wow, just ship on me. When I'm trying to have
- 7:56Speaker 1: a moment, with the listeners. So it was a big
- 7:58Speaker 1: deal cross country for me. You know, not all of
- 8:00Speaker 1: us went to Aussie's. Some of us were happy with
- 8:03Speaker 1: just winning reaches the stars. I say, well said, and
- 8:06Speaker 1: I went to smiling and said, you have cross country
- 8:08Speaker 1: coming up. You have to run. And it was like
- 8:11Speaker 1: I was telling her that she was going to lose
- 8:13Speaker 1: a limb. I was like, hey, next Wednesday, you're going
- 8:16Speaker 1: to lose a limb. It's going to get cut off
- 8:17Speaker 1: at school, but it's going to be for a good cause.
- 8:19Speaker 1: She was like, why why do they make us run?
- 8:22Speaker 1: And I was like, it's just it's cross country is
- 8:26Speaker 1: a it's an event. You're going to run against the
- 8:29Speaker 1: people in your class. And she's like, but for what
- 8:31Speaker 1: what are we competing for? And I was like, to
- 8:34Speaker 1: be the fastest.
- 8:35Speaker 2: She needs like a real reason. Yeah, she doesn't get sports.
- 8:39Speaker 2: She's not like a like she would rather dance.
- 8:42Speaker 1: And I was trying to explain to her, like there's
- 8:44Speaker 1: a reason we do this, and she was like I
- 8:46Speaker 1: don't understand, Like what are we trying to achieve here?
- 8:50Speaker 1: Because you have to Yeah, I was like, it's fun
- 8:53Speaker 1: because you get to you get to run.
- 8:55Speaker 3: Run with your friends. And there's two types of kids.
- 8:57Speaker 3: I think, kids that like to run for fun and
- 9:01Speaker 3: kids that like to run competitively. Oscar is the competitive one.
- 9:05Speaker 3: I can't be like, oh, just run over there.
- 9:07Speaker 2: He'll be like timey. You know.
- 9:10Speaker 1: It's like you've got like a little whippet dog that's great. Yeah,
- 9:14Speaker 1: I've got like a docile great dane. That's like, why
- 9:18Speaker 1: would I run? Like, you know, what's gonna What am
- 9:20Speaker 1: I going to get at the end of it? And
- 9:21Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't get anything. You get like a
- 9:23Speaker 1: ribbon if you win, if you come first thing or third,
- 9:24Speaker 1: if you come fourth. You don't get anything. And she's like,
- 9:26Speaker 1: that's a ship deal.
- 9:29Speaker 3: She sees the logic in it it and I kind
- 9:34Speaker 3: of do realize it is.
- 9:35Speaker 1: It's a weird fucking concept.
- 9:37Speaker 2: It is. I think like it's like a's very.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Gladiator asque, like you will all fight to the jask.
- 9:42Speaker 3: I'm all run, drop and die and then we'll learn spelling.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think like that?
- 9:47Speaker 3: They're like they get them involved, So it's more like
- 9:52Speaker 3: I don't know, like the getting involved part.
- 9:55Speaker 1: You know, you just gotta just okay, Can I tell
- 9:58Speaker 1: you a story?
- 9:59Speaker 2: Yes?
- 10:00Speaker 1: At my school when I was growing up, this is
- 10:02Speaker 1: Brookfield Primary School. Shout out to anyone from Brookfield and
- 10:05Speaker 1: Queensland close down. I heard absolutely not. It's thriving, it's
- 10:09Speaker 1: doing it.
- 10:10Speaker 2: And they were like, who's going to go to reach
- 10:12Speaker 2: it's expanding. Fuck you.
- 10:16Speaker 1: There was a young boy, Peter Low.
- 10:20Speaker 2: I thought, you say no.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Peter Low was in my sister's grade, one year older,
- 10:26Speaker 1: and he was the poster child across country. He was
- 10:30Speaker 1: someone who had cerebral palsy and every single year he
- 10:34Speaker 1: would run the cross country. It would take him a
- 10:37Speaker 1: lot longer than everybody else. He would run this race
- 10:41Speaker 1: knowing he's not going to win the race. He just
- 10:42Speaker 1: wanted to be involved. And when he would come in
- 10:46Speaker 1: at the finish line, we would have the whole school
- 10:48Speaker 1: cheering him on because every single year he got involved
- 10:53Speaker 1: he did it. And my mam always said to us,
- 10:56Speaker 1: you're so lucky. He's so lucky to be able to run.
- 10:59Speaker 1: You have two working arms, two working legs. Peter Low
- 11:03Speaker 1: would fucking kill for that. Yeah, And I was like,
- 11:06Speaker 1: you're right. We would always run it, doing it knowing
- 11:08Speaker 1: that Peter Low could do it. And if Peter Low
- 11:11Speaker 1: can do it, then we're going to do.
- 11:12Speaker 3: It as well. That's pretty encouraged. I'd love to know
- 11:14Speaker 3: where Peter Low is. My mum was trying to google
- 11:17Speaker 3: in my class. I think he's an accountant really, but
- 11:22Speaker 3: it was amazing he was. He could have easily have
- 11:24Speaker 3: sat out the cross country totally, but every single year
- 11:27Speaker 3: he fucking did it.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Just got it done, got it done. That's just like,
- 11:31Speaker 2: did you tell that story of Marley?
- 11:32Speaker 1: And I said, Marley, let me tell you the story
- 11:34Speaker 1: of Peter Low. And she was like, what are you
- 11:38Speaker 1: talking about. I was like, Brookfield Primary School.
- 11:42Speaker 2: That's exactly what she would have been thinking.
- 11:44Speaker 1: And I was like, you're so lucky to be able
- 11:46Speaker 1: to go out there and you can run. You're so blessed.
- 11:49Speaker 2: She was.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I don't know if the story was really hidden. Yeah,
- 11:57Speaker 1: And every morning she'd fucking be in tears because I'm like,
- 12:00Speaker 1: don't forget, you've got cross country.
- 12:01Speaker 2: So you kept spooking with the cross country, Yeah, wake
- 12:04Speaker 2: like that's.
- 12:04Speaker 3: Tomorrow with the pigs, with the megaphone.
- 12:10Speaker 1: They got to start training. So this morning was the
- 12:13Speaker 1: day of cross country.
- 12:15Speaker 2: Today.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Today, I was like, I'm not going to be there
- 12:19Speaker 1: because I think if I'm there she's more inclined to
- 12:22Speaker 1: not want to do it, and I want to be
- 12:23Speaker 1: with me. You know what, kids are then mess like that.
- 12:27Speaker 2: April cried at the cross country for what because she
- 12:30Speaker 2: was so sad because all the kids that didn't want
- 12:31Speaker 2: to do it.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Okay, good to know that it's not just Marley, No,
- 12:35Speaker 3: it's not. She felt like it was a form of torture.
- 12:37Speaker 3: Don't maybe do it and then like some kids thrive
- 12:41Speaker 3: off that sort of ship Likesca loves that sort of stuff.
- 12:47Speaker 3: But this morning we were like putting on her socks
- 12:50Speaker 3: and shoes.
- 12:50Speaker 2: She was like, I don't want to do it. I'm like,
- 12:52Speaker 2: you're fucking doing do it for Peterlo. So have we
- 12:57Speaker 2: got to result yet? Oh you don't know it fucking
- 12:59Speaker 2: got canceled cancer.
- 13:02Speaker 3: Good.
- 13:02Speaker 2: She's probably like it's next term, the next time. So
- 13:06Speaker 2: I guess I'm to train. I might'st all they do
- 13:09Speaker 2: if anyone how long is how long is you want?
- 13:11Speaker 1: It's literally I want to say it's like three hundred
- 13:14Speaker 1: meters is a kilometer?
- 13:16Speaker 2: They gave us a breakdown. A kilometer? Yeah, yeah, a kilometer. Yeah,
- 13:21Speaker 2: we're training for regionals, bro.
- 13:24Speaker 1: That is that is that is far that's torture. Yeah,
- 13:28Speaker 1: can we get the Department of Education inspecting your school?
- 13:31Speaker 1: Northern Beaches?
- 13:32Speaker 2: I reckon? Okay, well, okay, if you live a kilometer
- 13:35Speaker 2: and your kid does, he's like four, he's silly. Six man,
- 13:40Speaker 2: still very different. The Klombter's not that far. Dude, you're
- 13:46Speaker 2: forty forty. If I'm forty, you're forty five. How does
- 13:51Speaker 2: that make you feel? Stuff it? You're so close to fifty.
- 13:54Speaker 2: It's like twelve more summers than Mars.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Is like twice around thequadrangle? Quadrangle? Quadrangle?
- 14:02Speaker 2: Is this massive.
- 14:03Speaker 3: Fucking Jesus so canceled going in next year? Do you
- 14:09Speaker 3: do you know being a subscriber to someone who reads
- 14:14Speaker 3: the newsletter?
- 14:14Speaker 2: Do they do athletics to like some some stage.
- 14:18Speaker 1: They do have an athletics carnival? Correct. Yeah, I don't
- 14:22Speaker 1: know when it is. I'll wait till my sister tells me.
- 14:27Speaker 1: I have my goal for like my midyear goal is
- 14:30Speaker 1: to get subscribed to the newsletter.
- 14:31Speaker 2: How come you can't? What's this zeal?
- 14:35Speaker 1: I try and on the website, put email in and
- 14:37Speaker 1: it says we'll send you a link. Click the link
- 14:39Speaker 1: and your subscribed. The link never comes I've never had
- 14:42Speaker 1: the link. I've never I've tried someone at school going out.
- 14:46Speaker 2: That's it. I don't. Yeah, it's not easy, right, Okay,
- 14:50Speaker 2: Well I look forward to hearing the results of Marley's run.
- 14:54Speaker 1: I will say that George the year threes, George is
- 14:58Speaker 1: my nephew. They did it, they ran.
- 15:01Speaker 2: How did you go?
- 15:02Speaker 1: He came fourth? That's branding. But he had to let
- 15:04Speaker 1: me just tell you, he had to go in the
- 15:06Speaker 1: grade above because he started school late.
- 15:10Speaker 2: So he's like nine to be fair. So if you
- 15:12Speaker 2: had gone into his grade, yes, he was did.
- 15:14Speaker 1: I dropped the kids off this morning and I brought
- 15:16Speaker 1: George with me, and he was petrified, like because it
- 15:21Speaker 1: was the year above, because he had to race against
- 15:22Speaker 1: the older kids.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Did you tell the Peterlow story? Yeah? Yeah, and then
- 15:26Speaker 2: you were like a young manny Jo.
- 15:28Speaker 3: Who went to regionals one time ran with would you
- 15:31Speaker 3: like me to tell them the story of ash Wicks
- 15:32Speaker 3: who went to work?
- 15:33Speaker 2: And yeah you should?
- 15:35Speaker 3: What place did you come to? Ozzi's did not finish?
- 15:39Speaker 3: I can't remember. I didn't like, I didn't win. I
- 15:42Speaker 3: didn't win ausies clearly, no way. What did they come?
- 15:45Speaker 3: I think in a four hundred. I got fourth.
- 15:46Speaker 2: That's the closest shouse. Well, and regionals you played before.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Before I continue, I want to tell you something really quick.
- 15:55Speaker 1: How much do you reckon? You spent on school uniforms
- 15:57Speaker 1: for Oscar.
- 15:59Speaker 3: No idea and April bought the original ones and then
- 16:03Speaker 3: they have a second hand shop at the and it's
- 16:06Speaker 3: dirt cheap, like five bucks for a pair shirt.
- 16:08Speaker 1: See, I got they upsold me.
- 16:10Speaker 3: I'm surprised by that. You're not easy to upsell. I
- 16:13Speaker 3: know I panicked unless it's business class.
- 16:15Speaker 2: Now how much.
- 16:19Speaker 1: So we made the mistake? Boys is easy. Boys you
- 16:22Speaker 1: give them shorts and a polo. Right, yeah, for girls
- 16:24Speaker 1: is hard. Let me tell you. Let me take this
- 16:27Speaker 1: is for maciek okay, well, Macey and to school.
- 16:31Speaker 2: She will have the.
- 16:32Speaker 3: Option of a dress or a squort, skirt, shorts and
- 16:39Speaker 3: a polo.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Okay.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Marley was like I want the dress, and we're like, great,
- 16:43Speaker 1: dress is beautiful.
- 16:44Speaker 2: You can have the dress. I think they still go
- 16:45Speaker 2: the dress to tell her to shut up. Okay, let
- 16:48Speaker 2: me call her right now when she wants that dress.
- 16:51Speaker 2: Don't do it. Don't do it.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Because they all started on the dress and then all
- 16:54Speaker 1: the older kids.
- 16:55Speaker 2: Are in skirts. No squirts.
- 16:58Speaker 3: Okay, that's gon take a little wile, get my head
- 17:00Speaker 3: around the scot scoort.
- 17:02Speaker 1: A scort is a skirt, but shorts.
- 17:05Speaker 3: Okay with you like jawns, like jean shorts, very good,
- 17:09Speaker 3: very good, but they're called like you have to go
- 17:11Speaker 3: in and ask for sports sneams, also jeekers.
- 17:20Speaker 2: But I had to get Marley.
- 17:21Speaker 1: She now has these dresses that she won't wear, so
- 17:23Speaker 1: I have to get her scorts. And Apollo and I
- 17:25Speaker 1: went into the uniform shop this morning and I said,
- 17:28Speaker 1: can I have two squats and two polos? And she
- 17:31Speaker 1: was like, of course, and then she went for the
- 17:32Speaker 1: brand new ones and I was like, but there was
- 17:36Speaker 1: a line of people and I was like, I was,
- 17:37Speaker 1: I panicked. I didn't ask for second one hundred bucks
- 17:40Speaker 1: for two for two scots. It's such a raw two
- 17:43Speaker 1: squats and two polows. It's a rawt but like you
- 17:47Speaker 1: can pass them down a loller.
- 17:48Speaker 3: I guess, thank you, But I know that we've got
- 17:53Speaker 3: the winter uniform coming up.
- 17:55Speaker 2: What's the winter uniform? I'm glad you asked. It's a
- 17:58Speaker 2: whole new fucking uniform. Like pants.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Yeah, so pants, it's a button up shirt for the boys,
- 18:04Speaker 3: for the boys. What I think the shoes stay the same.
- 18:08Speaker 2: I hope so. I would hope so, But otherwise I'm
- 18:10Speaker 2: going to be out of pocket. Yeah, home was button
- 18:15Speaker 2: up shirt. Yeah, I don't think. I think we're going
- 18:17Speaker 2: to refuse. We fucking pushed back on that day, pushing
- 18:23Speaker 2: into a hole.
- 18:24Speaker 1: If they want to make Oscar run like four kilometers
- 18:27Speaker 1: for cross country, allow that, but you've got to put
- 18:29Speaker 1: your foot down, give.
- 18:30Speaker 2: Him a bear of pants. Yeah. Look, I don't know.
- 18:35Speaker 3: I just know that the secondhand stuff is so much cheaper.
- 18:39Speaker 1: You've got it, man, don't They saw me?
- 18:42Speaker 3: And they were they pulled your pants down as soon
- 18:45Speaker 3: as you walked in here.
- 18:46Speaker 1: I got bent over, bent over in front of it,
- 18:49Speaker 1: in front No, she didn't even spit, she did even spit.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Just bent me over in front of my child as well.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Marley was like dad, and I was like, don't look
- 18:56Speaker 1: at this.
- 18:56Speaker 2: Molly May's like while he's spending.
- 18:58Speaker 3: When I was asking for something, I got sucked by
- 19:01Speaker 3: a pair of Scots. No, are they really long to
- 19:05Speaker 3: oscar shorts like.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Shawts? No, three like three quarter, they're like three quarters.
- 19:13Speaker 2: They're like long shorts or short longs. We don't know.
- 19:15Speaker 2: We've gotta pull. The other day, he's like, can you
- 19:16Speaker 2: do my string up?
- 19:18Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, but the things up here that's
- 19:20Speaker 3: pretty much doing up his drawstring and he's fucking up
- 19:23Speaker 3: his chest.
- 19:23Speaker 1: And that's probably why he came, because you know, the
- 19:26Speaker 1: shoe fell off.
- 19:26Speaker 2: It's different.
- 19:29Speaker 3: It was a wardrobe malfunction of a different kind. With Oscar,
- 19:33Speaker 3: we had our first parent teaching interview. You had your schedule,
- 19:38Speaker 3: you wouldn't know.
- 19:39Speaker 2: It's not in the newsletter or.
- 19:43Speaker 5: The awkward silence. Now, it's really starting to make me
- 19:46Speaker 5: feel weird. I'm trying, Ash. I know I'm doing a
- 19:51Speaker 5: great dad. I'm doing the best that I can a
- 19:53Speaker 5: great dad.
- 19:53Speaker 2: And it's a school's fault that you can't get onto
- 19:56Speaker 2: the news. I can't.
- 19:58Speaker 1: I can't get in there. I can't subscrip.
- 20:00Speaker 2: You and I are very different.
- 20:01Speaker 1: It's like Bergheim nightclub. You can't get in, are you
- 20:04Speaker 1: do you? You obviously have the big group chat. Oh yeah,
- 20:07Speaker 1: I ignore that.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Oh man.
- 20:09Speaker 3: I was like, Ashes left immediately before I even saw
- 20:13Speaker 3: read one mess.
- 20:14Speaker 1: People were asking you about lunchboxes and I was like,
- 20:16Speaker 1: too hot, too.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Hard, okay, parent teacher have you been scheduleding for your parents?
- 20:20Speaker 2: Had last week?
- 20:21Speaker 3: You had your stuff? Me too, Yeah, it's quick. Do
- 20:23Speaker 3: you think I suppose at the end of tim now,
- 20:26Speaker 3: fucking hell, life goes fast. Oh man, it does go quick.
- 20:31Speaker 3: I'm like, you're only forty sorry, fine, Yeah, I'm gonna
- 20:37Speaker 3: have to get you.
- 20:38Speaker 2: I don't know if Oscar was like this, Marley was really.
- 20:43Speaker 1: And it was it was me, Laura, Marley was there
- 20:47Speaker 1: and Mary's teacher, and Marley was being really silly, like
- 20:50Speaker 1: in front of the teacher.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like she was. She was like nervous, silly.
- 20:56Speaker 3: Well, she was just being like like bum we were
- 21:00Speaker 3: in front of the teacher. I was like, what do
- 21:01Speaker 3: you shut up?
- 21:03Speaker 1: And then I was like, well, you know you're gonna
- 21:05Speaker 1: behave and then she was like smack him in the face.
- 21:07Speaker 2: It was they had the report out there like.
- 21:13Speaker 1: She was, you know when sometimes in front of other
- 21:17Speaker 1: people she was being super silly, very I was embarrassed.
- 21:22Speaker 1: That was.
- 21:24Speaker 2: I was just embarrassed we didn't take Oscar. Yeah, there was.
- 21:27Speaker 2: I feel like they're better without.
- 21:29Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, no one wants to hear what
- 21:32Speaker 3: someone has to say about you in front of you.
- 21:35Speaker 2: To someone else.
- 21:36Speaker 1: It was it was a light touch. It was like yeah,
- 21:39Speaker 1: it was like, here's a picture that she drew.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, what.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Do they say about Oscar?
- 21:46Speaker 3: He's good, apparently, he's really I don't know where who
- 21:50Speaker 3: this kid is. Let's put it this way, I don't
- 21:52Speaker 3: know who this He's really cool.
- 21:54Speaker 2: He's s CR isn't he s r C as that funk?
- 21:57Speaker 2: I was close.
- 21:58Speaker 3: He's really Apparently, he's really kind, he's really helpful. He's
- 22:01Speaker 3: really he's like really like picks up things really fast.
- 22:05Speaker 1: I've been assaulted by Oscar. You tried to kidnap He's
- 22:09Speaker 1: a violent young man. You tried to kidnap him.
- 22:14Speaker 3: If anything, you should be embarrassed about that, because he
- 22:17Speaker 3: beat the ship out of you.
- 22:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 22:20Speaker 3: So like all and all really really good, except like
- 22:22Speaker 3: classic my son does get distracted easily.
- 22:25Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, that makes total sense. But
- 22:27Speaker 2: otherwise really good. But I felt like the whole thing
- 22:29Speaker 2: was like really daunting, even for us. I was like,
- 22:33Speaker 2: I'm nervous. What's a teacher like? So there's two teachers.
- 22:37Speaker 3: They do a job share for the first term because
- 22:39Speaker 3: the regular teachers on long.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Service, right, and one of them was heavily pregnant.
- 22:44Speaker 3: I'm talking like that about like's got just finished it
- 22:48Speaker 3: up this week because.
- 22:48Speaker 2: She's just gonna give birth to a child and then
- 22:51Speaker 2: both lovely.
- 22:52Speaker 3: But I felt like it was the first time experiencing that,
- 22:56Speaker 3: like as it was for you. But April and I
- 22:58Speaker 3: both felt like it was nerve racking for some reason.
- 23:01Speaker 2: I don't know why.
- 23:02Speaker 3: Everything was fine, thank God, but like I can imagine,
- 23:06Speaker 3: like if you've got like quite a naughty kid, it
- 23:09Speaker 3: would be pretty daunting.
- 23:10Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it'd be awful if that were struggling.
- 23:13Speaker 2: Do you know what?
- 23:13Speaker 3: I was really really nervous until I had to sit
- 23:15Speaker 3: in one of those kids chairs and I thought, this
- 23:17Speaker 3: is all silly. Yeah, you're like your knees are up
- 23:20Speaker 3: by you. I felt like I felt like I was
- 23:22Speaker 3: getting in trouble. I was like, oh shit, And then
- 23:24Speaker 3: I was like, this is a bit silly on this chair.
- 23:26Speaker 1: I was I don't know the teacher listens to this podcast,
- 23:31Speaker 1: but I was. After five minutes, I was kind of
- 23:34Speaker 1: like I was struggling to stay focused.
- 23:38Speaker 2: There you go.
- 23:40Speaker 3: Now, my teacher actually has a little thing for Maddie Ja.
- 23:44Speaker 3: I gifted the Schools of Books for book fair. Did
- 23:48Speaker 3: you give my calendar?
- 23:48Speaker 2: I thought that was inappropriate, but actually, just on the
- 23:50Speaker 2: calendar really quick.
- 23:51Speaker 3: I went and dropped Macy off at her kindy and
- 23:53Speaker 3: one of the teachers came up and said.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Laurel's got one of your calendars in the staff room.
- 23:58Speaker 2: She was gifted for christ Laurel was She was like, oh,
- 24:01Speaker 2: I love Maddie j And I was like, yeah, he's
- 24:03Speaker 2: all right. He only made it to regionals. But yeah,
- 24:06Speaker 2: you've got a big fan over there. Thank you.
- 24:08Speaker 1: So maybe I should come to the next parent teachers,
- 24:11Speaker 1: me and you two gay dads.
- 24:12Speaker 2: Yeah, how is Macy? By the way, Macy's good. Macy
- 24:15Speaker 2: has learned to toilet train herself somehow. I don't know how.
- 24:20Speaker 2: Just one day she was like I'm finished, and I.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Was like, okay, good time. I was like, time to changeing,
- 24:27Speaker 3: happy walking, and she's sitting on the toilet. Hmm, I
- 24:32Speaker 3: ordered she again, she's three and a bit. Okay, that's
- 24:35Speaker 3: like prime potty training.
- 24:37Speaker 2: But I didn't.
- 24:38Speaker 1: I feel like she's watching Oscar. Dude, what it is Oscar?
- 24:42Speaker 1: He's now parenting your other child.
- 24:44Speaker 6: Well that he's the man of the he you can
- 24:46Speaker 6: start paying for ship then he was like for God's
- 24:51Speaker 6: but like I felt like I didn't like both my kids,
- 24:54Speaker 6: I don't even think about, like I didn't have to
- 24:57Speaker 6: do any real toilet training, like like what other than going.
- 25:01Speaker 2: We should we?
- 25:03Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 25:03Speaker 1: I think Laura would always watch Marley and she'd be like,
- 25:07Speaker 1: I want to do that, like I want to, I
- 25:08Speaker 1: want to I want to experience that ride achievable goal
- 25:12Speaker 1: I'm being on the toilet. So Lola was pretty easy
- 25:15Speaker 1: even now. I don't know if Macy's like this Lola.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Whenever she's doing a little activity, she locks into it
- 25:22Speaker 1: to the point where she pushes the needle very far
- 25:27Speaker 1: when it comes to like knitting to WII. So she'll
- 25:30Speaker 1: be coloring something in and she won't want to finish it,
- 25:32Speaker 1: and she won't she won't want to go to the
- 25:33Speaker 1: toilet until she's finished coloring in and then.
- 25:35Speaker 2: And then she's like, A still does that? He relis myself.
- 25:39Speaker 3: He was like drawing and he's like, I'm like, we're
- 25:40Speaker 3: holding under your dig for mate, go into the piss
- 25:43Speaker 3: and like, okay, I'll be right back, and he's sprinted off.
- 25:47Speaker 3: Macy's doing, obviously just all of a sudden, doing ships
- 25:50Speaker 3: on the toilet, right, and then I'll be like.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Still wiping though right She no, She's banging on wiping.
- 25:57Speaker 2: And I'm like, what is going I got a check,
- 25:59Speaker 2: which is weird. It's so weird, just like be like,
- 26:02Speaker 2: come here and let me check your asshole. What's a
- 26:04Speaker 2: fucking weird thing is It's weird when you come in
- 26:08Speaker 2: there and you're like, alright, term for the arsehole inspection.
- 26:11Speaker 2: Don't know if I grab your toes? Hello, hello, oh
- 26:15Speaker 2: my god, everything's everything seems to be on now cough.
- 26:20Speaker 1: Sometimes Laola's like I've finished, and I'm like, let me
- 26:22Speaker 1: have a check.
- 26:23Speaker 2: Oh my god. This ship everywhere?
- 26:25Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it looks like when you used to when
- 26:27Speaker 3: you're a kid, and then you get a drop of
- 26:28Speaker 3: paint put it in a piece of paper and a
- 26:30Speaker 3: butterfly butterfly and I'm like, did you wipe and Lalla's
- 26:35Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, wall and I'm like, God, you need help.
- 26:39Speaker 3: And I'm waiting to go into the bathroom and just
- 26:41Speaker 3: see a ship on the side of the fucking tour
- 26:43Speaker 3: like oh yeah, just waiting for it. But she does
- 26:46Speaker 3: this quirky thing where she'll be like daddy like yeah,
- 26:49Speaker 3: She's like, can you get me a book.
- 26:52Speaker 2: And then I walked in and she was like, I
- 26:54Speaker 2: didn't at this stage, I didn't know that she was
- 26:57Speaker 2: on the tour.
- 26:57Speaker 3: And I walked past the toll the doors wide open,
- 27:00Speaker 3: like it looked at my right.
- 27:03Speaker 2: And then she's like holding the book and I was like,
- 27:09Speaker 2: what the hell is And then can she read? No?
- 27:13Speaker 2: And then I was like what do you use the
- 27:14Speaker 2: book for it?
- 27:15Speaker 1: She just helps me relaxed, and I was like reading
- 27:17Speaker 1: the Financial Times.
- 27:18Speaker 3: And she does this weird she's doing this weird walk
- 27:20Speaker 3: at the moment where it's like a real smug like
- 27:22Speaker 3: like the like the diaper on the shirts by the
- 27:25Speaker 3: way shirts like that where it's like she like struts
- 27:30Speaker 3: off down the hallway like she's just successfully back a
- 27:33Speaker 3: massive turn out.
- 27:34Speaker 2: What is she reading the toilet?
- 27:36Speaker 3: Oh?
- 27:36Speaker 2: Just whatever book she can get a hand on. Good
- 27:38Speaker 2: on her, Good on you.
- 27:39Speaker 1: That's great, that's great parenting take for I love how
- 27:42Speaker 1: you like, I don't know who's doing it. April's day
- 27:44Speaker 1: like blood, sweat and tears, making sure.
- 27:46Speaker 3: That leaves rolled off, and you're like, it's she's just
- 27:50Speaker 3: done it herself.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Shout out to April.
- 27:52Speaker 3: April, Sure did you ask Ash?
- 28:00Speaker 1: We would normally do lies, but I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 28:04Speaker 1: rest lies for this week.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Is that a lie? Okay, gotcha? Gotcha? We're gonna rest lies. Ok.
- 28:11Speaker 1: We're going to bring back lies next week.
- 28:13Speaker 2: We are. But a little.
- 28:15Speaker 1: Reminder that if you do have any lies, we wan't
- 28:16Speaker 1: really obscure ones, you know, the crazy, the better send
- 28:19Speaker 1: them through to us. But we're going to jump straight
- 28:21Speaker 1: into listener questions. Ash, what precious thing you that's beautiful?
- 28:26Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Next question, what precious thing did
- 28:31Speaker 1: you or your kids destroy? This is off the back
- 28:35Speaker 1: of just little mentioned little nod to your dad destroying
- 28:38Speaker 1: the art peace last week.
- 28:43Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I do have something before this
- 28:46Speaker 3: as please. I hate to always flash back, but I can.
- 28:50Speaker 1: I just say, don't you dare apologize for hating a
- 28:54Speaker 1: flashback because I love them.
- 28:57Speaker 2: Let's go right back. How old?
- 28:59Speaker 3: Also was about oscars age. I lived in Narrabeen in
- 29:04Speaker 3: what they call.
- 29:05Speaker 2: An asbestos house.
- 29:07Speaker 3: It's funny because I live in asbestos house now, so
- 29:09Speaker 3: I've gone full circle.
- 29:10Speaker 2: They say, closed the circle.
- 29:12Speaker 3: Here we are and my dad's quite an avid surfer.
- 29:17Speaker 3: And when we were kids, we were all coming back
- 29:19Speaker 3: from somewhere. I think it was like it must have
- 29:21Speaker 3: been a weekend because no one was working, no one
- 29:22Speaker 3: was at school. We had one family car. We went
- 29:25Speaker 3: very well off, and I remember we did a surf
- 29:28Speaker 3: check on the way home from wherever we were, and
- 29:32Speaker 3: I recalled Dad being like, it's good.
- 29:34Speaker 2: Got to get these kids home so that he can go.
- 29:38Speaker 2: So we drove home. It had quite a.
- 29:40Speaker 3: Long driveway out the side of the house that on
- 29:42Speaker 3: the left side was a fence that was like just
- 29:47Speaker 3: like a timber fence, and it's it was not the
- 29:50Speaker 3: pretty side of the tim offence. You now, there's an
- 29:52Speaker 3: ugly side. It was the ugly side because we're poor.
- 29:56Speaker 3: Someone else paper defense, okay, And I recall us driving
- 30:03Speaker 3: up the driveway and getting out of the car.
- 30:06Speaker 1: It can I will say, it is quite a flex
- 30:09Speaker 1: to have a defence, to have the fence on the
- 30:11Speaker 1: nice side.
- 30:11Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your fence situation? It's definitely nice. You're a
- 30:16Speaker 2: nice guy. Look, it is the nice side on both
- 30:21Speaker 2: sides of the house. Yeah. Oh wow, I know, sorry,
- 30:24Speaker 2: must be very nice.
- 30:28Speaker 1: So I don't know what it feels. I'm going to
- 30:29Speaker 1: relate to your story, but I just I can't know,
- 30:31Speaker 1: I don't get it, and I didn't get it to
- 30:33Speaker 1: me feel poor.
- 30:36Speaker 2: Anyway, So we've gone up.
- 30:37Speaker 3: I'm on the passenger side behind Mum in my chair anyway,
- 30:43Speaker 3: so we've all gotten out of the car. And I
- 30:45Speaker 3: was so so young, so there's like the memory is
- 30:49Speaker 3: not completely clear, what.
- 30:50Speaker 2: It's hazy, But anyway, we've all gotten out of the car.
- 30:54Speaker 3: Dad's put his board in the car and gone to
- 30:56Speaker 3: reverse back down the driveway and and I don't know
- 31:00Speaker 3: if you recall, on the poor side of the fence
- 31:02Speaker 3: is where the posts are that keep the structural integrity
- 31:07Speaker 3: of said fence. And the back door on the passenger side,
- 31:11Speaker 3: which was my side, had been slightly left open, and
- 31:15Speaker 3: he had reversed down the driveway, hence ripping the car
- 31:20Speaker 3: door off. Oh yeah, expensive exercise.
- 31:26Speaker 2: So think about this.
- 31:27Speaker 3: Think a four door car with three doors and a
- 31:31Speaker 3: big hole where the fourth door is meant And how
- 31:35Speaker 3: is the fence fence well built?
- 31:41Speaker 2: The poor side the rich person that I was like,
- 31:42Speaker 2: not my ridge side of the fence, and it.
- 31:44Speaker 3: Was perfectly fine from what I recall, but it did
- 31:47Speaker 3: it did rip the car door clean off. However, my
- 31:54Speaker 3: as you can imagine, my dad was rope because there's
- 31:56Speaker 3: two things that have happened here. He's missed the serve,
- 31:59Speaker 3: which is probably the thing he was most upset about
- 32:01Speaker 3: it in the end, and the car is missing a door,
- 32:04Speaker 3: our only car that we have.
- 32:06Speaker 2: That dad's source of getting to work.
- 32:10Speaker 3: And I think at the time he had like three
- 32:12Speaker 3: jobs because he worked in sales this time.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Okay, so I apologize. So this was not this is
- 32:16Speaker 2: pre sales rep days. No need to yell, Okay, I won't.
- 32:19Speaker 2: I refuse not to.
- 32:21Speaker 3: He had a couple of different jobs in different areas.
- 32:26Speaker 3: But anyway, he was really ropeable about it, and he
- 32:31Speaker 3: was ropeable about it for years.
- 32:33Speaker 2: It was the sort of thing where they bring it
- 32:35Speaker 2: back up all the time.
- 32:36Speaker 1: He can I just can I just confirm for one second? Yes,
- 32:40Speaker 1: was it your fault?
- 32:41Speaker 2: Like was it? Were you in the was it?
- 32:44Speaker 1: I'm imagining right now that everything's happening really quickly, your
- 32:47Speaker 1: dad's like, get out of the fucking car, gotta go,
- 32:49Speaker 1: gotta go. Maybe it'll happen too quick. You didn't get
- 32:52Speaker 1: a chance. You're grade too, you're grade too, you're like seven.
- 32:55Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was on my side, my door. Hence
- 32:58Speaker 2: my fault. So I've no, no, no, no. Let me
- 33:02Speaker 2: finish the story then we can ask questions. So it
- 33:05Speaker 2: was I copped the blame because that's my door.
- 33:08Speaker 3: That's unfair. Sorry, it's not unfair. I don't think it's
- 33:11Speaker 3: unfair to It's an assumption. That's what that is, whether
- 33:15Speaker 3: it's unfair or not.
- 33:16Speaker 2: He assumed. He assumed, They all assumed. Everyone's assumed.
- 33:19Speaker 1: If you're the driver, you check the doors before you drive.
- 33:22Speaker 3: For years, it was brought up, always, always brought up
- 33:26Speaker 3: for so long, come on, thank you, let go now,
- 33:33Speaker 3: all the way until teenage years, where it was continually
- 33:37Speaker 3: brought up to be it went from being like how
- 33:40Speaker 3: pissed off they were about it and how much it
- 33:43Speaker 3: costs them in the end to it being like an
- 33:44Speaker 3: embarrassing story, like tell people, ruin the family.
- 33:47Speaker 2: Just did this somewhere around my sixteenth birthday.
- 33:51Speaker 1: You didn't ruin the family, as you chose to ignore that.
- 33:54Speaker 3: It's again, oh I missed it around my sixteenth birthday.
- 33:58Speaker 3: An admission of someone admitted to actually doing it.
- 34:04Speaker 2: My sister.
- 34:07Speaker 3: So back then, my sister has opened the door. Older
- 34:11Speaker 3: sister got out on that side with me, left the
- 34:16Speaker 3: door open. Wow, it ripped off. She pointed the finger
- 34:20Speaker 3: at me. Fifteen years or something, I say, twelve years
- 34:26Speaker 3: something like that. Ten twelve years had gone by her
- 34:29Speaker 3: keeping her mouth shut, enjoying me being brought up for
- 34:34Speaker 3: years and years.
- 34:36Speaker 2: So she just.
- 34:36Speaker 3: Stood there watching you get beaten, pretty much smacked up earlyhood.
- 34:42Speaker 2: Where she has finally said it was me.
- 34:46Speaker 1: What was the trigger point for her admitting I can't remember.
- 34:49Speaker 2: I just the guilt was too much.
- 34:51Speaker 3: I think that the guilt got to her evengual and
- 34:54Speaker 3: it might have got to the point where you.
- 34:56Speaker 1: Would hold onto that to your deathbed. Really, yeah, you
- 35:00Speaker 1: would expect like if she was about to go.
- 35:01Speaker 3: She'd be like, by the way the car door was meat, Yeah, fully,
- 35:07Speaker 3: what has happened?
- 35:08Speaker 1: I was unsure, like what why she wanted to clear
- 35:12Speaker 1: a conscience?
- 35:12Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I mean, we're still talking. This is
- 35:15Speaker 3: fifteen years ago that she cleared a conscience. And I
- 35:17Speaker 3: was like, I remember for I remember for so long
- 35:20Speaker 3: it was like I because the car was fucking ruined,
- 35:23Speaker 3: pretty much like it was an old car anyway, and
- 35:25Speaker 3: it was like I was always the kid in the
- 35:28Speaker 3: family who ruined the car. My sister could never do
- 35:32Speaker 3: any wrong. It shaped the rest of my childhood. I
- 35:34Speaker 3: reckon because it was like, I remember when you.
- 35:37Speaker 2: Fuck the car up, your piece of shit, shit that
- 35:41Speaker 2: my parents spoke to me like that. Mom might have
- 35:44Speaker 2: that would yeah.
- 35:45Speaker 3: Wow, but yeah for so long, and my sister would
- 35:48Speaker 3: do the they're like you remember that, and then eventually,
- 35:54Speaker 3: like I.
- 35:54Speaker 1: Said, how's your relationship now with your Sister's great?
- 35:56Speaker 3: We're great. We're great friends until I get her back eventually.
- 36:00Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a scarring moment.
- 36:02Speaker 2: But I was the precious item that I had ruined
- 36:05Speaker 2: of my parents.
- 36:06Speaker 1: I'm so sorry you had to experience that. It's like
- 36:09Speaker 1: those stories of the person who was like incorrectly charged
- 36:13Speaker 1: with murder and they spent the whole life in prison.
- 36:15Speaker 2: That's exactly how I felt.
- 36:17Speaker 3: I felt like I was incarcerated, an innocent man.
- 36:19Speaker 2: Yes, I felt like I was. In the move the Hurricane, No, okay,
- 36:23Speaker 2: it's let me just give you the just really quick.
- 36:25Speaker 1: It's quite a long about a car door that gets broken.
- 36:27Speaker 2: It's about a car door that gets wrot.
- 36:29Speaker 3: It's about a boxer who gets framed for a murder.
- 36:33Speaker 3: A long time ago, and there was a really famous
- 36:35Speaker 3: song called the hurricane.
- 36:39Speaker 1: To me right now, I'm getting nothing but one word
- 36:43Speaker 1: screaming into my vision.
- 36:46Speaker 2: What do you mean, Hollywood movie.
- 36:50Speaker 3: Imagine they're making a blockbuster movie out of me ruining
- 36:54Speaker 3: the car.
- 36:55Speaker 1: This has got I mean, I think screenwriters would be
- 36:59Speaker 1: salivating right now.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Years I lived in shamee I lived.
- 37:05Speaker 3: I was suppressed for years in my own family home.
- 37:08Speaker 2: Yeah, betrayed. I was betrayed by your own legend. What
- 37:15Speaker 2: I have never been able to trust ever again? Anyone? Anyone?
- 37:21Speaker 3: Wow, the sight of a car door like it s inspiral,
- 37:24Speaker 3: sends me spiraling.
- 37:25Speaker 1: Yeah, every time you shot a car door flashbacks.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I'm like every time you see a fence.
- 37:31Speaker 3: Anytime someone weirs about me slamming their door, I'm like, well,
- 37:34Speaker 3: you gotta be sure, you gotta be careful, and you
- 37:38Speaker 3: gotta be sure.
- 37:39Speaker 1: This has got to be made into a movie. Surely
- 37:41Speaker 1: we should do it.
- 37:42Speaker 2: It'll we know.
- 37:42Speaker 1: A start Man Arrival was a hurricane based on a
- 37:45Speaker 1: true story.
- 37:45Speaker 2: It is a true story, but there you go, And
- 37:47Speaker 2: there was a ten minute song the was it?
- 37:51Speaker 3: This is the story of the hurricane, but this is.
- 37:55Speaker 2: A story of a car door. How's the go again?
- 38:02Speaker 2: Jess can you just get that song up really quick?
- 38:05Speaker 1: How does it go again? It's not important anyway.
- 38:08Speaker 2: It's got feature film written all over it. Who would
- 38:10Speaker 2: play me? Probably young?
- 38:11Speaker 1: You have to play yourself, dude. Probably with Ai you could.
- 38:14Speaker 1: They could do like a young version of yourself. You
- 38:15Speaker 1: wouldn't need to have like.
- 38:16Speaker 3: An upper up and what up and coming young actor
- 38:21Speaker 3: to play me. That's what I want, okay, and.
- 38:25Speaker 2: Then the teenage version of me.
- 38:27Speaker 3: Don't make him look as awkwards idea as a teenager.
- 38:29Speaker 3: I want like a nice, pristine teenager.
- 38:31Speaker 2: I'll do it the pristine teenager, can we That's a
- 38:38Speaker 2: bit much.
- 38:41Speaker 1: Very very very Harvey Weinstein of you.
- 38:44Speaker 2: That's what I was going for.
- 38:46Speaker 1: There's two things that I I originally said that in
- 38:50Speaker 1: my mind. So I didn't break anything. Actually I did
- 38:53Speaker 1: break a few things.
- 38:55Speaker 2: Just twenty four other women's hearts on the Bachelor.
- 39:00Speaker 1: Jesus, A couple of things, just old old note. We
- 39:05Speaker 1: we ended up having our neighbors. It wasn't like a
- 39:07Speaker 1: mountain bike. It was like a cruiser bike. Did a
- 39:10Speaker 1: few jumps on it.
- 39:11Speaker 2: Sick. I used to I used to.
- 39:14Speaker 1: Was I was very bad. I used to love riding bikes.
- 39:16Speaker 1: But I would always like trying and hit jumps fall off.
- 39:18Speaker 1: You got to hit jumps.
- 39:19Speaker 2: You got hit the jump. What's the point having a
- 39:21Speaker 2: bike if you're not hitting jump?
- 39:22Speaker 1: Well, said sick, So broke the bike. My dad when
- 39:25Speaker 1: I was this is like really young. My dad had
- 39:28Speaker 1: these machetes.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Okay, with that name Ivan that.
- 39:35Speaker 1: He had bought he was working in Pappa Ne, Guinea.
- 39:38Speaker 1: There were like these like carved machetes. They were like
- 39:41Speaker 1: I can't again, very hazy.
- 39:43Speaker 2: This is when I'm let's hope. So that's like six.
- 39:46Speaker 2: So when you do get questioned about the machetes, and
- 39:49Speaker 2: I remember they were like not.
- 39:50Speaker 1: Machetes, you would use the old machetes that would be like
- 39:52Speaker 1: on a mantelpiece on display.
- 39:54Speaker 2: In a psychopath's house.
- 39:56Speaker 1: Yes, okay, And I have this memory with my oldest
- 39:59Speaker 1: sister or brother where we took the machetes. We went
- 40:03Speaker 1: down into the backyard there was a big rock and
- 40:05Speaker 1: we would then smash the rock with a machete and
- 40:08Speaker 1: it made little sparks and we were like, how cool
- 40:11Speaker 1: is this? We're making fire And we just like bashed
- 40:14Speaker 1: the hell out of the machete until they were all
- 40:16Speaker 1: like dinted in from the rock because we like making sparks,
- 40:19Speaker 1: and then we just put them back until my dad
- 40:21Speaker 1: came home and was.
- 40:21Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck is this?
- 40:25Speaker 3: Okay, you ruin the man's hobby pretty much his prize possessions.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Do we know what they cost? Though? No I don't,
- 40:33Speaker 2: but they were priceless? Yeah, why do kids do dumb
- 40:37Speaker 2: shit like that?
- 40:37Speaker 1: Then I will just say as well, last thing, this
- 40:39Speaker 1: one is etched into my mind. We used to have
- 40:42Speaker 1: a ride on lawnmower shut up, and I used to
- 40:47Speaker 1: really love the ride on lawnmower. It's very slow, but
- 40:51Speaker 1: we had at one point a little slope and.
- 40:54Speaker 2: To hit the jumps on that too, well.
- 40:56Speaker 4: I.
- 40:57Speaker 1: Got the hose out and we're like was then a
- 41:00Speaker 1: bit of an incline. I wet it so all the
- 41:02Speaker 1: grass was like real greasy, and then I would hit
- 41:06Speaker 1: it at pace and then turn and.
- 41:08Speaker 2: Drift and do a bit sick that is good.
- 41:12Speaker 1: And then I did that a number of times until
- 41:14Speaker 1: I kind of went faster and faster and sharper and sharper,
- 41:17Speaker 1: until I ended up rolling the ride on lawnmower down
- 41:21Speaker 1: the hill and it ended up upside down. Luckily, I
- 41:25Speaker 1: didn't have the blades on, and I jumped off the
- 41:28Speaker 1: right on lawn mower.
- 41:29Speaker 3: So I was not crushed, so like full action movie
- 41:32Speaker 3: jump with action packs.
- 41:34Speaker 2: And then you're like, that was sick, Let's do it again.
- 41:36Speaker 1: And then I was like I couldn't I couldn't lift,
- 41:38Speaker 1: I couldn't correct the lawnmower it and I think I
- 41:42Speaker 1: just left home. I just my mum was away and
- 41:46Speaker 1: my dad was coming home.
- 41:47Speaker 2: And I was like, well for.
- 41:49Speaker 1: Me, yeah, see guys, my backpack off to the bus
- 41:52Speaker 1: and I went to a MAT's house.
- 41:54Speaker 3: Police weren't falsely accused. Man, I've got a question for you.
- 42:00Speaker 3: I know we're not really in the you know, we
- 42:02Speaker 3: did last week talk about Christmas and the guy that
- 42:04Speaker 3: had the Christmas music on.
- 42:07Speaker 1: Yes, but in terms of gift giving, birthdays, birthdays are
- 42:13Speaker 1: they do.
- 42:13Speaker 3: Happen throughout the year. I am aware of that. Actually, sorry,
- 42:18Speaker 3: I didn't mean to just a reminder. I did remind
- 42:20Speaker 3: you about Laura's birthday the day.
- 42:22Speaker 2: Yes, when's your birthday?
- 42:23Speaker 3: Again? I'm not telling you because you forget every year
- 42:25Speaker 3: and you're like, what July seven.
- 42:28Speaker 1: July six, your April, you're coming up. I'm going to
- 42:32Speaker 1: missage April.
- 42:34Speaker 2: You're the worst? What are the worst you?
- 42:41Speaker 3: What are the worst presents you can give a child?
- 42:43Speaker 3: It's birthday, Christmas, regardless, just presents.
- 42:46Speaker 2: Top three. Give me your top three worst.
- 42:49Speaker 1: I'm going to start with number three. A carryok machine.
- 42:53Speaker 2: That was my number two. I think they're like they're
- 42:57Speaker 2: a nightmare.
- 42:57Speaker 3: Well, I told that story that I got one from
- 42:59Speaker 3: my mother in law and I hit it and we
- 43:01Speaker 3: never and the kids never asked about it ever again.
- 43:03Speaker 1: You'll play with it for a day, a week at
- 43:06Speaker 1: the most, and then you got you got to bury that.
- 43:10Speaker 2: One day it was gone. Literally it was Boxing Day,
- 43:13Speaker 2: and I'm like this.
- 43:15Speaker 1: There is one thing that kids do not need. It's
- 43:16Speaker 1: a piece of equipment to amplify their voice.
- 43:19Speaker 2: You might as well give them a drum kit.
- 43:21Speaker 1: Yes, like I say for anyone out there, don't give
- 43:26Speaker 1: karaoke machines to kids.
- 43:27Speaker 2: No good one. What's your do you want to do?
- 43:31Speaker 2: What's your number three?
- 43:32Speaker 3: My number three is hot wheels tracks. I thought that
- 43:35Speaker 3: would be a great gift in theory. Yeah, when I
- 43:39Speaker 3: first heard Oscar, I was like, oh, who love hot
- 43:41Speaker 3: wheels track?
- 43:42Speaker 2: But there's a couple of things with them. The firstly
- 43:45Speaker 2: is the hot wheels.
- 43:45Speaker 3: Cars get left on the ground and in the dark
- 43:48Speaker 3: if their flips upside down.
- 43:49Speaker 2: Get a couple of plastic.
- 43:51Speaker 3: Sharp wheels, and man, you know when people are talking
- 43:55Speaker 3: about stepping on blocks, step on a hot wheels car,
- 43:58Speaker 3: bro oh my god, that's one thing and the other
- 44:02Speaker 3: thing is and it might just be my kid the
- 44:05Speaker 3: frustration because they car never makes it to the end
- 44:08Speaker 3: of the track, or the track bits get lost, or
- 44:12Speaker 3: he'll be.
- 44:12Speaker 2: Like, I'm going to do this track and it's gonna work.
- 44:14Speaker 3: And because they don't understand physics at that age, well
- 44:18Speaker 3: neither do I. It I know what's kind of going
- 44:22Speaker 3: to work and what's not going to work.
- 44:24Speaker 2: The frustration just I just end up. I've hidden them.
- 44:28Speaker 3: I've got a box full of them, and I've hidden
- 44:30Speaker 3: them because it's the worst.
- 44:32Speaker 1: My second, my number two on my list slime that
- 44:38Speaker 1: is bad.
- 44:39Speaker 2: Slime is just like.
- 44:41Speaker 1: If there is one, if anyone brings in slime into
- 44:45Speaker 1: this household, within seconds, I'm putting that in the fucking bin.
- 44:48Speaker 2: I'm gonna hard slime through it.
- 44:50Speaker 1: Because it just like it gets everywhere, gets on the carpet,
- 44:54Speaker 1: gets in the kid's hair, stinks that smell. It like
- 44:58Speaker 1: it just ends up every where and then it dries hard.
- 45:01Speaker 1: It's it's hard to get off.
- 45:03Speaker 2: How would you define that smell.
- 45:04Speaker 3: It's like a chemical chemical, synthetic rubbery concox.
- 45:09Speaker 1: It's nuclear. That's a very good word for its nuclear.
- 45:13Speaker 1: It's essentially that you're bringing in nuclear waste into a household.
- 45:17Speaker 3: And usually because it's slime and it's meant to be
- 45:21Speaker 3: appillion with kids.
- 45:21Speaker 2: It's bright colored.
- 45:23Speaker 1: And the kids don't get it, like, they don't they
- 45:25Speaker 1: don't know how to play with it. Okay, they don't
- 45:27Speaker 1: know how it works. How does slime works? Like, what
- 45:29Speaker 1: are you trying to what are you trying to achieve
- 45:31Speaker 1: with slime?
- 45:32Speaker 3: It's like even a big thing, a chewing gum like
- 45:34Speaker 3: this just end up fucking everywhere.
- 45:36Speaker 1: And no need for it. There should be. Hey, there's
- 45:39Speaker 1: an election coming up. One thing that I want to
- 45:41Speaker 1: have as a rule legislation ban slime.
- 45:44Speaker 2: Will stop full stop.
- 45:45Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a whole aisle dedicated to slime in like
- 45:48Speaker 3: some shops, the slim shop.
- 45:51Speaker 2: Aha number two for me, do you know what? I hate?
- 45:53Speaker 2: Going in again? In theory, it's like this would be cool.
- 45:56Speaker 2: I also going to love this kids. You anything remote
- 45:59Speaker 2: control drives me fucking wild.
- 46:01Speaker 1: Okay.
- 46:02Speaker 2: I think the first time that you get.
- 46:04Speaker 3: Given a remote control calf, your kid does and you
- 46:08Speaker 3: you're in charge of setting up, it's like the novelty
- 46:11Speaker 3: Wars wears off real quick before it's like annoying. They
- 46:15Speaker 3: usually make annoying sounds. The batteries never last that long,
- 46:20Speaker 3: are expensive, and then there's the meltdown when you.
- 46:24Speaker 2: Don't have the appropriate batteries. And I just.
- 46:27Speaker 3: Think you're setting the parent up there for a lot
- 46:29Speaker 3: of failures after you've given the initial cool looking gift
- 46:33Speaker 3: of the rally car.
- 46:34Speaker 2: And I was just like sick.
- 46:38Speaker 3: And then he crashes into something and it breaks and
- 46:40Speaker 3: and he's like, oh, I need to one.
- 46:43Speaker 2: I didn't know that that's.
- 46:44Speaker 1: Very anything remote control. It's simple, okay. My number one
- 46:49Speaker 1: number one melted bead kits. Oh you know, you know
- 46:56Speaker 1: the ones where you have like a triangle shape and
- 47:00Speaker 1: then you put the beads on and you iron it
- 47:02Speaker 1: like it's so delicate, it's so near, and but I
- 47:07Speaker 1: can barely finish the shape. And trying to get a toddler,
- 47:11Speaker 1: not toddler that because are not toddler. Sorry, I apologize
- 47:13Speaker 1: to try and get my child under the age of
- 47:16Speaker 1: ten to complete that.
- 47:18Speaker 3: Like it's just it's essentially it becomes a point where
- 47:22Speaker 3: you're just playing with it.
- 47:23Speaker 1: I'm doing and the beads end up fucking everywhere.
- 47:28Speaker 3: There's a moment when done, when you're ironing, like the
- 47:32Speaker 3: choices of I made in life for this to be
- 47:34Speaker 3: what I'm doing.
- 47:34Speaker 1: I can't tell you in those those cupboards down there,
- 47:37Speaker 1: how many times I've gone to get something out, like
- 47:38Speaker 1: a charger and then I've hit the bead bowl and
- 47:42Speaker 1: beads of bloody. When the kids are like, we play
- 47:50Speaker 1: with the beads, it's.
- 47:55Speaker 2: It's just it's awful.
- 47:56Speaker 1: It's guaranteed to end up in tears. The kids are frustrated,
- 48:00Speaker 1: they're annoyed, and then like when you do iron it
- 48:03Speaker 1: and then they're like, they're not happy with it.
- 48:05Speaker 2: It's just no beads.
- 48:07Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you my number one now please. And
- 48:09Speaker 3: I received this from my sister, the one who blamed
- 48:11Speaker 3: me for the car thing, So thanks, Beth.
- 48:14Speaker 2: A kazoo go on. So a kazoo is a small
- 48:18Speaker 2: mouth whistle sort of thing that goes.
- 48:22Speaker 3: Is it kind of like they had the world cupella.
- 48:26Speaker 3: It's like a minivozella and the kazoo family. It's it's
- 48:30Speaker 3: it's one of the kazoo relatives. Yes, it's an offspring
- 48:34Speaker 3: of the kazoo. I thought, say so. It's like a
- 48:36Speaker 3: baby kazoo. Right, no way, vizella sorry, baby Vouverzella is
- 48:42Speaker 3: a 's evolution, the evolution of life.
- 48:45Speaker 2: Where we going? Where am I going with it? Let
- 48:47Speaker 2: me continue though.
- 48:49Speaker 3: My child, Oscar was two for his second birthday. Got him.
- 48:54Speaker 3: It's like a metal kazoo, and the problem is with
- 48:57Speaker 3: the kazoo, is it doesn't. It's like a harmonica, also
- 49:01Speaker 3: part of the ververzella family. It's actually the distant cousin
- 49:04Speaker 3: of the kazoo. It's a wind instrument. Would you just
- 49:10Speaker 3: like the trumpet anyway? Sorry, we could go on all that.
- 49:13Speaker 3: With a harmonica, you can blow out and you can
- 49:15Speaker 3: suck in. Yes, and it makes noise, same with the kazoo,
- 49:19Speaker 3: but it's more annoying. It's like, oh, man, if we
- 49:24Speaker 3: get insert a kazoo, he yes, that would be great.
- 49:27Speaker 3: Oh my dad, flying, flying, flying, fly, fly, fine, fine,
- 49:30Speaker 3: fine one. I like dressing dance pretty.
- 49:56Speaker 2: But she bought him a kazoo for a second birthday.
- 50:00Speaker 2: But the problem with second birthday.
- 50:03Speaker 3: Yeah, but she did it from on purpose, you know why?
- 50:06Speaker 3: She did it, asshole, to annoy the shit out of me.
- 50:09Speaker 3: And a week later I was like, this fucking kazoo.
- 50:13Speaker 2: I've got to get rid of it.
- 50:14Speaker 3: But the problem is I kept throwing it away and
- 50:16Speaker 3: it kept reappearing, you know how, like just.
- 50:21Speaker 2: Was a cursed kazoo. It was like a boomerang, not
- 50:24Speaker 2: related to the kazoo. Just to clarify, that's more of
- 50:28Speaker 2: a hobby.
- 50:29Speaker 3: Throwing hobby, no wind instrument with a It just kept
- 50:33Speaker 3: turning back up and I think it was crushed.
- 50:35Speaker 2: It was.
- 50:36Speaker 3: It continued to make noise, and all what happen is
- 50:39Speaker 3: at like six o'clock in the morning, Oscar would like
- 50:42Speaker 3: wake up and.
- 50:43Speaker 2: I'd hear this in my own personal hell.
- 50:50Speaker 3: So if you're listening to this list, do not buy
- 50:54Speaker 3: unless you really hate them.
- 50:56Speaker 1: A kazoo, a kazoo for a child also vi visella
- 51:02Speaker 1: love that in that.
- 51:03Speaker 2: Nothing nothing in the related instrument. Please, unless they're talented
- 51:08Speaker 2: at it, which remember my kid is talented. At that age.
- 51:11Speaker 3: My dad got a harmonica, My dad plays guitar and
- 51:14Speaker 3: he wanted to play guitar and harmonica at the same time,
- 51:16Speaker 3: which I don't know if you've seen the contraption that
- 51:19Speaker 3: that is goes over your neck and it holds the Dylan.
- 51:22Speaker 2: Yeah, very good reference.
- 51:24Speaker 3: Thank you, very very good, you've seen it. And he
- 51:31Speaker 3: got a harmonica. I remember my sister we hated it.
- 51:34Speaker 3: We all hated it. But I think he knew what
- 51:37Speaker 3: he was doing as well. Do I just live in
- 51:39Speaker 3: a family full of evil people where he would just
- 51:42Speaker 3: be like eventually we had to hide it from him.
- 51:46Speaker 3: He's a fully grown man. To talk about full circle,
- 51:50Speaker 3: I'm going full circle again again.
- 51:53Speaker 2: Cursed by win Win related instruments.
- 51:55Speaker 1: And on that note, it's been a pleasure. It's been
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- 52:06Speaker 3: Give us your lists, your list of toys that you
- 52:10Speaker 3: should just well, things you just shouldn't get a child.
- 52:12Speaker 2: Weapons, don't get them weapons.
- 52:14Speaker 1: No michetes. I wouldn't recommend it. They'll end up damaged
- 52:19Speaker 1: or they'll kill each other.
- 52:20Speaker 2: Just don't get any like ka Zoo.
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- 52:46Speaker 2: That's yeah.
- 52:47Speaker 1: Hey, we'll get out of here.
- 52:49Speaker 2: Is anything else?
- 52:50Speaker 1: I think that's it.
- 52:51Speaker 2: We'll see you guys next week. Bye. You are with
- 52:59Speaker 2: another man? How's it go again? I can't remember?
- 53:03Speaker 1: He was in the army, he drove tanks, gaba.
- 53:07Speaker 2: It was it again? You were with another man? Hang
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