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The Ultimate Guide to Plastic Surgery: Risks, Rewards, and Realities · The Diva Details

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  Welcome to the Diva Details. Welcome to the Diva Details.
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  Just fearless conversations to help you thrive. Let's dive in with Diva Mia and Diva Cat.
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  Hello diva cat hello diva mia how's
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  it going today oh it's fantastic yes the
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  sun bright weather beautiful it's a
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  great happy day yes lots of joy in the world yes i love spring spring is my
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  favorite time you know what happens in spring people start to look their bodies
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  and they say oh my gosh what should i do with this body do i need to nip and
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  tuck a little bit here and there or should I fix something here and there?
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  Oh, I'm all about it. Are you? Oh, yeah.
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  We kind of overanalyze our stuff and then we start to say, hmm,
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  what would I like to improve?
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  I think we try to just look at, okay, we only look for the worst spot.
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  You know, you don't look at the good spot. I think you're so right on that.
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  We beat ourselves up and we say, Yeah, you know.
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  Mm-hmm, I know. But you know what? Sometimes it's good to improve areas though too.
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  I did like our discussion regarding some of the natural or the less invasive
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  ways, I do have a friend that did, she's done a lot of different modalities
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  and plastic surgery, and she says the only thing that really works is plastic surgery.
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  Is it really? The other modalities are temporary. They're like a Band-Aid to
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  the problem, whereas plastic surgery kind of gets rid of it completely.
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  Well, I talked to all my friends about it who had that done.
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  They said it was the best thing ever.
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  I think so, too. And when you do plastic surgery, you get a permanent result.
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  However, I will recommend you wait until you get to your normalized size.
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  Oh, yeah, you definitely need. So I have one friend that she was very big, like three plus.
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  Oh, wow. Yes. And she did the sleeve. Oh, so she did a sleeve on her stomach?
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  She did ghastly sleep on her stomach, and she stayed on her weight for like
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  a whole year before she went to have the whole nip top.
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  Okay, and has she still stayed at the same weight? Yeah, and she says she's never been happier.
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  Yeah, I know a lot of people that have lost significant amounts of weight,
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  whether it's from diet or exercise.
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  I'm doing mine more from fasting and intermittent fasting and juicing.
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  But a lot of people, when they lose the weight, they have excess skin.
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  Yeah, she said that's only, you know, all the modality that we were talking
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  about is temporary. It is temporary.
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  And it's a lot of work. It is a lot of work. And the reality is,
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  guys, a lot of those modalities, they're expensive.
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  That's true. And when you actually calculate the cost of plastic surgery,
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  it's not that much more than some of those modalities.
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  You're really just delaying the inevitable.
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  That's it. It's stay permanent as long as you don't gain all your weight back, though.
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  You have to think about that. You have to change your whole completely habit.
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  Yes, you have to be disciplined and make sure that you don't change your weight
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  more than 5 or 10 pounds. You're going to have to stay there. Yeah. I don't know.
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  I mean, a lot of people could be anti-classic surgery, bad, invasive, whatever.
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  Everybody I've talked to, that they have work done and they loved it.
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  Yes. There are complications, though, that we're going to discuss today.
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  So you have to be careful and you have to get the right surgeon for the job.
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  As long as you're safe, most people have good results.
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  Now, there are going to be side effects like anything.
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  There's going to be complications you might have to endure. Yes.
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  And there have been deaths from plastic surgery. Oh, yeah.
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  People that have undergone liposuction and have died from it.
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  They died from heart attack, not from liposuction. No, actually,
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  they died from an infection.
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  Is it really? Yeah, so you have to be careful. Oh, wow.
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  No matter what you do, if it's a medical procedure, you have to be careful.
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  Yeah. I haven't done anything yet, but I'll tell you the truth. I am ready.
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  You're ready? Mm-hmm. What are you going to do first? My arm.
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  Your arms. Yeah. Everybody has, like, a different spot that they don't like.
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  So you don't like your arms because you've lost so much weight?
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  Yeah, I've lost so much weight, and I like to wear the short-sleeved shirt.
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  Yes, especially in the summertime, right? In the summertime, yeah.
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  To me, if I get my arm done, I think I'm good. Yeah.
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  Because everywhere else I
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  cover with my clothes. Well, I think a lot of people start on their face.
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  Really? A lot of people will start on their face. Some people start on their
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  body. But at our age, a lot of people are doing their face and their neck. Huh.
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  That's kind of the number one place I've seen people go. Because a lot of people
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  get sick of doing the Botox.
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  For sure, yes. And you can do a brow lift that gets rid of those wrinkles. Yeah.
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  Yesterday I was at a med spa and I was getting an IV and I have kind of dark
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  circles under my eyes and they have this stuff that they put under your eyes. It's called easy gel.
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  And we didn't talk about that last time. So I'll give you a brief idea.
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  So the easy gel is an injection of your plasma and some your fat tissue and
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  they stick it and they make it into like a gel formation.
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  And they basically inject it on your eyes in order to make the dark circles
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  and the indentations go away.
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  Oh, wow. It's like your own personal filler, so it's no chemicals.
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  Oh, okay. They use from your own plasma. Yeah. So it lasts for two years.
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  The cost is $1,000 per treatment and they want you to do three to four treatments.
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  You're going to spend $4,000.
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  At that rate, I could do a facelift for six. Right.
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  So why am I going to spend $4,000 doing my eyes when I can do a lot more with
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  a facelift? For something temporary.
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  For something temporary. So a lot of people say, why are you spending all this money?
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  And I'm at the point now, too, I've done about as much as I can with the modalities
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  that if I want more permanent results, it's time for me to look elsewhere.
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  Go for it. The med spas are people's quick fix, and I think they're starting
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  to dwindle because people are seeing that the results aren't permanent. Yeah, go for it.
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  People a lot of times will get their noses done. I think that's one of the number one things.
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  People at any age will get their noses done. If they don't like their nose,
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  they're getting it done. Yeah.
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  So that's like a rhinoplasty, right? I think that's what's called rhinoplasty.
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  And people will get them if they have a crooked nose or if their noses are too
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  big. Everybody wants the little tiny noses. Right.
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  Yeah. I'll tell you the funny thing. My sister-in-law and her sister,
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  I haven't seen them for 10 years before I moved here.
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  And we went to, you know, family dinner. Her and her sister walked in. I couldn't tell.
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  I don't know which one is which because they went to the same plastic surgery
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  and they already look alike.
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  So now they have the same nose. Oh, wow.
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  Yeah. So you got to be careful, too.
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  Now you're going to look identical, like identical twins almost. Yeah.
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  I couldn't figure out which one it was till they start talking to me.
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  Then I recognize the voice.
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  And of course, I don't want to make it so obvious, you know.
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  Right. Take hand to the wrong person.
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  Right. Yeah. So that's another thing. Yeah. But the nose is so pretty.
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  It is so pretty. I mean, nothing perfect, right? To me, in my eyes, they are perfect.
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  Well, here's the thing with noses. When you change the nose on a face,
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  it really changes the whole face.
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  You think so? I think so. And I, well, I love my nose personally,
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  but I do have a small nose.
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  I don't want to change my whole face, but I don't have a big nose,
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  so I'm not going to judge if you want to do that.
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  Right. I just want to lift the skin and tighten it a little bit.
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  I love my nose. I don't like my eyes. That's why I did my eyes.
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  You know how people get the number 11 between their eyebrows?
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  I only have the number one. Oh, you have a very deep line. I only have one.
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  I only have one like, I want that kind of fixed.
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  Oh, go for it. Yeah. So people will do a facelift. They'll do a brow lift.
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  I know people are doing eyelid lifts, too. You talked about that. I did my eyes, yeah.
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  So how did you do it? Was that plastic surgery? Yeah. So that was your first
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  plastic surgery. That was my first one. Yeah.
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  So people do the eyelid lifts up, and they also do lifts underneath to actually
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  get rid of dark circles, too.
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  You could do that, too. So if I do a facelift, it'll be maybe that number one.
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  And then I don't think I need my uppers done, but maybe my lower under my eyes
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  to get rid of that dark circle.
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  Well, when I have my eyelid done, so I have one eye is like drooped out.
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  So my eyes become very uneven.
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  So I was thinking to look just one eye. He said, no, you look weird. So they did both.
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  So they had to do both. And they also tie up the bottom.
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  They have to do both. If you're going to go, you can't just do like the bottom
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  and don't do the top and the top don't do the bottom. They got to do both.
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  Because they look weird.
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  They look unproportioned. Got it. So they'll just lift it all. Yeah. Okay.
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  And then some people will do a neck lift. I know I want to do that.
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  I think I'm coming up on that too. Yeah. So the neck lift is nice because you
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  realize you have as much skin on your neck as you do your face.
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  And you realize if you have sagging skin on your neck, that it really makes you look older. Yeah.
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  So when I did my eyelid surgery, I was awake the whole time.
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  The doctor was like, it's very, very, very small procedures.
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  For your neck lift? For even the neck lift, the eyelid or the brow lift,
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  it's very small procedure, he said.
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  And it was only an hour. And I was awake the whole time. We talked the whole
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  time. How long did it take for you to recover?
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  The next day. And how much bruising was there? I did not bruise at all.
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  So you were ready to go the next day. Could you go out in the sun?
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  I went to the temple the next day. Oh, wow. Yeah, I went to the temple the next
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  day. And he said, at night, you might feel like sore.
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  You just keep the ice pack. And I was fine.
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  Now, because some people did it without stitches.
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  But my eye was so, I let it go for so long, so he had to stitch it up.
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  So I had to go back seven days to remove the stitch.
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  Oh, wow. Yeah, so don't wait too long. So you know how people are doing their
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  nose? A lot of people are now doing their chin.
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  And they're making it more pointed for women, and men are making it more of
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  a masculine-looking chin.
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  So you're looking for, like, the V-shaped? More of a V-shaped chin. Oh, okay.
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  And also, when you do your neck, a lot of people are doing their jowls.
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  You know how you get that little fat pocket on the bottom of your chin?
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  They're fixing that with their chin augmentation, too.
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  Oh, wow. So there's different things you can do. Oh, wow. We're going to live
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  beautiful and healthy forever.
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  Yeah. You can look young and beautiful forever. Yeah. I was surprised when I was in that facility.
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  There are men doing the same thing. Oh, yeah. They like a suction on their ab.
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  Oh, yeah. A lot of men are doing liposuction now. Yeah. There's fat they can't
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  get rid of and they're doing liposuction. I was very, very surprised.
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  And you know, one of the things, too, is that different places specialize in different things.
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  Right. So just because you have a plastic surgeon that did your facelift doesn't
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  mean you're going to have the same plastic surgeon do your neck or them do your breast or your body.
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  Because they specialize and you want to go to someone that specializes in that
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  area because they're really used and they do a really good job.
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  Yeah, you have to do your research. You have to do your research.
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  And a lot of people start their plastic surgery in their 20s.
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  I've heard that too. Most people stop in their 80s, though. I will say it's
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  like from 20 to 80 is your plastic surgery. Some do it for anti-aging.
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  Some do it for symmetry, like your eyebrow or your eye.
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  Well, I don't know. I play pickleball with this lady. She is 85.
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  Really? And she still does plastic surgery? She said she will never stop.
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  She will never stop. She looks like she's in her 60s. Really? Yes.
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  And muscular. And muscular. She looks very strong, healthy, 60-year-old.
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  So she's keeping her face in shape as she is her body. Yeah.
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  And there's the other thing is people think that, oh, I need more collagen.
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  One of the things that happens to the face that people don't talk about,
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  it's not just the collagen that goes away for the skin.
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  It's also the bone loss. So if you're not intaking enough vitamin D3 and K2,
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  you're actually decreasing your bone structure as well as you need calcium,
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  you need the other vitamins like zinc and magnesium.
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  All those things help keep your bone structure strong. So if you don't have
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  those vitamins and nutrients, your face is going to sag more.
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  I need to. I need to. I'm guilty of taking vitamins. Yeah.
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  Well, you got to. Yeah, I had to. Yeah. And some people are just doing injury
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  correction. Like maybe you have a scar or you got injured.
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  Plastic surgery is good for that too. Yeah. I'm fortunate though.
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  I don't scar. That's good. I was very fortunate. That's good.
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  So when you do your nose and your jawline and certain parts,
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  you might even have some bone restructured or some cartilage removed,
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  some fat removed or repositioned. It's a whole procedure.
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  Oh, wow. Oh, my friend just did her whole denture thing, and it changed the whole shape of her face.
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  Oh, yes, it does. And you need to kind of know what you want when you go to talk to the doctor.
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  You don't just go in blind and say, what do you think is best?
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  You can, but you may not get what you want then.
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  I recommend seeing some pictures of different people, usually movie stars,
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  because they've usually had a lot of work done, and figure out what you like.
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  Yeah, but some people choose, but it's personal preference. Some people choose
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  to age gracefully, right? They do.
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  And that's up to you. Yeah, that's up to you. I would not look like grandma, no.
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  I will say some of the past procedures like the BBLs, the big butts and the
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  big lips are... It's going away, isn't it?
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  It's going away very quickly. It's no longer a... It was a fad.
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  And now people are trying to slim it down. Yeah, people just want to be looking
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  healthy and muscular now.
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  They do. They want this healthy, muscular, refined look. Refined, yes.
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  I think the big lips and the big butts were fine during COVID,
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  but now everybody's like, you know what? I want to get in real health and real shape. Yes.
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  Like the healthy looking, I think it's the most very attractive. Yes.
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  You know, the thing is, is you're beautiful just the way you are, though. Right.
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  And if someone is forcing you into plastic surgery to make you better,
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  I would say that's not the right person for you.
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  We do plastic surgery for our own self-confidence and because we want to improve us.
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  If you have someone else forcing you into it, it's not the right fit.
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  Yeah, same thing is people telling you, you're too fat, too skinny. No.
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  No, you do this for you. You do this for you. Because you want to change.
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  You want to be different.
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  Now, remember, you're going to have some downtime typically,
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  not like Diva Cat over here.
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  No, but the ice procedure is very quick. Yeah. Well, you may have some downtime.
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  You may risk that they do one side more than the other, and you now have to
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  go back for a revisionary procedure.
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  And you can also have scarring and nerve damage. Right.
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  Do facelifts. Yeah. I'm coming up to cataract surgeries, but that's really common
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  for women, for people, anyone that's over 60.
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  Yeah. Cataract surgery is a big thing. Yeah.
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  So. You know, there's, it's funny, they said vitamin D has been used to get rid of cataracts.
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  High doses of vitamin D. There's actually some videos on that.
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  I know. I need to be better on taking vitamins. You really do.
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  And get away from the gummies.
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  Gummies. Yeah. If anything doesn't come in form with gummies.
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  I'm not taking it. Well, the thing is, is those gummies, I don't know how good
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  those vitamins actually are.
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  I think they have less percentage of that.
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  You know, they're like candy. It's like the Flintstone vitamins of the current age.
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  So you might have to take 10 to get like percentage of 2. I don't know.
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  Don't overdose on vitamins. Don't overdose. But definitely need to do your research
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  because the quality of the vitamin is important, too. Yeah.
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  Is it true? Is it really? It is because some vitamin places use really bad ingredients.
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  And a lot of those imported from other countries, I'm not going to slam any
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  countries, but imported from other countries, they don't care about the ingredients.
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  They just care about making the sale.
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  So you might just be eating sugar pills with a little bit of vitamin in it.
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  I need to look at the ingredients. You really do. You really do.
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  I recommend getting vitamins that are made in this country.
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  Yeah. Because they have higher quality standards on vitamins.
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  And you can do your research on which vitamins those are.
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  And there's more and more companies coming back and making the vitamins here
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  because they've had so many problems with tainted vitamins from other countries. Yeah.
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  Oh, wow. It's so much to worry about. There is a lot to worry about.
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  You have to read the five print. You do.
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  So up your vitamin D before your plastic surgery.
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  Up your vitamin, as long as it's okay with your doctor, of course,
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  because I don't know your medical history.
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  You may have a health condition that restricts it. But do your research.
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  You may need more vitamin D.
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  You may need more vitamin C.
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  Fasting before a procedure is great. Fasting after a procedure, not so much.
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  And then the cost. I mean, a facelift is like three to, it can start around
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  $2,000 all the way up to $20,000. For the facelift? For the facelift,
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  depending on what you're having done.
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  Oh, wow. If you do a full facelift with all kinds of intricacies,
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  yes. And it will depend on the doctor you use.
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  So typically, if you're doing one or two smaller procedures,
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  if you do in your neck, your nose, your eyes, your jawline.
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  But it depends.
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  Every doctor's different. Every doctor has different procedures.
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  I believe I was looking at the neck and I think it was $5,000,
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  $5,000 to $6,000 for a neck lift.
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  Just the neck lift itself. But if you bundle it with other packages,
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  sometimes you can get a better deal as well.
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  I would say whoever does your face should be able to do your neck as well.
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  I paid close to $3,000 for my eyes. See, that was one small procedure and it was $3,000.
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  You can't get the same effect in modalities on your eyes that you got from that plastic surgery.
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  I mean, I can't tell you did anything. Where did they cut?
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  The upper leg and corner here.
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  See, I can't even tell. That's why he's good. There's no scar.
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  Yeah, that's why he is good.
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  You'll have to give me his contact info. Right. I could go for the $1,500 that
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  I saw my friend and had the scars everywhere. I said no. So you found a good
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  one. Yeah, I found a good one.
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  So facial surgeries tend to take one to four weeks to heal completely.
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  You can have infections still. Yeah. You can have nerve damage just like you
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  can anywhere on the body. Yeah, yeah. And you can bleed out,
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  too. You can have bleeding issues.
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  So if you have any type of, let's say, like a bleeding disorder or if you're
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  on medication, you have to be careful. You need to make sure that this is a
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  surgery. So you need to make sure...
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  That you tell your doctor all the medications you're on, all the pre-existing
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  conditions you have, and make sure they're okay with that.
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  Yeah. And realize you may not like the results.
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  Yeah, they do clearance physical before you do all, you go underneath.
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  I like doing fasting before because it helps turn on some healing aspects of your body.
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  For sure, yes. That's for sure. Yeah. I fast the day, the night before.
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  I recommend fasting for two or three days before, but that's just me.
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  Yeah, yeah. That way your body's turned on and you've got stem cell production
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  already going. So when you actually have the surgery, you'll have less inflammation.
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  You probably heal faster. You do heal faster. I do that before every single
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  surgery, no matter what surgery it's been.
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  And it's very beneficial. And the pain is less, especially since I don't take
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  pain meds. So when you come out of the surgery, you'll have less inflammation and less pain.
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  I require that since I don't do pain meds. I'll do pain meds for one day after surgery.
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  And then after that, I go cold turkey just because I can't deal with the pain
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  meds. Oh, I love pain meds. I know you do.
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  If they could give me morphine and a pain med, I would take that.
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  I love my pain meds. Give me all my medicine. Yes. And sing on me. No.
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  Diva Cat's our drug addict. She's our local drug addict. Yeah.
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  He even gave me this volume the day before, but he was so stingy.
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  He only gave me one the day before surgery.
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  Oh, he's stingy. I kind of like that when doctors don't overdrug people.
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  It's probably a good thing, hon. Yeah. I was like, what is this?
• 19:37
  One pill? There's nothing to do with anything. He said, believe me,
• 19:39
  honey, it's going to calm you down. That's enough. I said, okay.
• 19:43
  Well, there you go. Yeah. I bet I could take a volume. You think so?
• 19:46
  I think I could be okay with that. No, he prescribed me. Well,
• 19:48
  they also have them over the counter.
• 19:50
  They do? They have, like, what is it, St. John's Wort? That's what it is. Really?
• 19:54
  It's effective as a doctor prescribed? Probably not. Yeah.
• 19:58
  Well, and then the next thing that people do are your breasts.
• 20:01
  Oh, I want to do that so bad.
• 20:03
  You know, I was thinking I wanted to do a breast lift, but I've been lifting
• 20:06
  so much weight that my breasts are very perky again.
• 20:11
  Awesome. I mean, honestly. Yeah. Oh, diva mia.
• 20:15
  My chest is really perky now. My nipples have come up and I don't think I'm
• 20:21
  going to do a breast lift. And I was really nervous because when you do a breast
• 20:24
  lift, they move the nipple and a lot of people lose sensitivity in their nipple. I've heard that.
• 20:30
  And I do not want to lose sensitivity in my nipple. Yeah, yeah.
• 20:34
  Now, there are doctors out there that their specialty is to reconnect nerves. Huh.
• 20:40
  And that is actually a specialty. Now, you have to get in line and you have
• 20:43
  to do it right away after the surgery.
• 20:46
  So if you don't have sensitivity, you need to quickly get in to see the doctor.
• 20:50
  And the thing is, is sometimes the sensitivity takes a while to come back.
• 20:53
  So it's kind of like a double-edged sword. But the longer you wait,
• 20:56
  the more the nerve contracts.
• 20:58
  Oh, wow. For me, I just don't want to even mess with it. Yeah,
• 21:02
  you don't want to lose that either. I don't. Now, there's breast lift, right?
• 21:06
  That's just moving the nipple. That's if you have enough breast material and
• 21:10
  you just want to move the nipple in a better location.
• 21:12
  Maybe you did a lot of breastfeeding and it sagged a little bit.
• 21:16
  Then you also have breast augmentation. Now, a lot of people have gotten implants,
• 21:21
  had problems, and gotten them taken out.
• 21:25
  Now, you can do a silicone implant or you can do a saline.
• 21:29
  And I've heard about both. Most people tell me the silicone is nicer feeling
• 21:33
  than the saline. It feels a little plumper.
• 21:36
  But people have had leaking silicone breast implants. Oh, wow.
• 21:40
  You know, you remember the Dow Corning case back in the early 90s?
• 21:44
  So where does it go? No, it's like run all over your body, going to pop up anywhere when it leaks.
• 21:49
  No, when it leaks, the fluid gets into your body and can lead to cancer.
• 21:53
  Oh, wow. So you have to be careful. I don't want to stick stuff in my body.
• 21:58
  That's my big thing. I don't have any implants.
• 22:00
  Yeah, I think I'm good with what I have. Yeah.
• 22:03
  And here's the other thing. You can also transfer fat into your boobs.
• 22:06
  Wow. So they could cut from my belly, just inject to my boobs? Well, they don't cut.
• 22:10
  They lipo it out, and then they inject it back in. Now, when you do a fat transfer,
• 22:14
  they tend to transfer two to three cup sizes up.
• 22:18
  So if you're a B, they're going to make you a D, let's say.
• 22:21
  Mm-hmm. But, and this is a huge but, B-U-T, not a B-U-T-T, this is a huge but,
• 22:28
  you're going to lose about a cup of it because your body's going to just,
• 22:31
  some of the fat cells are going to be dead and your body's going to just process them out.
• 22:35
  So by the time you're done with your decrease of inflammation,
• 22:38
  your decrease of swelling, the fat that gets flushed out, you're only going
• 22:42
  to be about a cup size bigger.
• 22:44
  That's why they do one extra cup size? Yes, because some of it,
• 22:49
  well, a half to two, depending on the doctor, a half to two cup sizes up.
• 22:52
  By the time you're done, it's going to shrink up a little bit.
• 22:54
  And you kind of don't know if it's going to be perfect. And you might have to
• 22:58
  go back in for revision because maybe one side is bigger than the other.
• 23:02
  So with the fat transfer, it's a little bit iffier. That's why a lot of people opt for the implants.
• 23:09
  If you're okay going back for one more surgery for revision, then you can.
• 23:13
  Because I've looked into this extensively. That's why I know about this one,
• 23:16
  because I didn't really want to do an implant.
• 23:17
  I said, oh, I could take some fat from my ass and stick it in my breast.
• 23:21
  The problem is, is that now you may show up false positives on a mammogram because
• 23:28
  the breast tissue is going to maybe more fibrotic and hard in certain areas. OK.
• 23:33
  And it may look like a breast cancer. So you might have a false positive breast
• 23:37
  cancer. They might have to go in and cut it out and then determine that.
• 23:40
  So there are complications with the fat transfer.
• 23:43
  Oh, wow. if you're younger and your fat tissue is not as.
• 23:48
  Metastasizing like that, you'll probably have a better luck.
• 23:50
  For me, I probably should not be doing it. And with your luck, don't you?
• 23:55
  With my luck. Plus, I have lipoma issues where my fat, because of my liver,
• 24:01
  tends to make little hard nozzles.
• 24:03
  So most likely it won't work for me. Yeah. So if you have any type of liver
• 24:07
  or kidney issue and you do it, it's probably not the best way to go.
• 24:11
  So you are thinking going to
• 24:12
  do the breast implant? I'm not going to do either. I got big enough boobs.
• 24:15
  That is true. And now that they're lifting, I'm so good.
• 24:18
  Yeah, yeah. My boobs don't have to be perfect, but they do have to stay sensitive,
• 24:22
  and I'm okay with the way they are. Yeah, I'm fine with mine.
• 24:26
  Yeah. Then they have breast surgery for men. I've heard that a lot.
• 24:30
  So the breast surgery for men
• 24:32
  is to reduce when they get man boobs because men have too much estrogen.
• 24:37
  So men have been doing that just to decrease the man boobs when they have too
• 24:41
  much fat. It's mostly liposuction.
• 24:43
  It can be a little restructuring of the tissue. It can be even a nipple lift
• 24:46
  if they need it, depending on their breast structure.
• 24:49
  And then there's also breast reduction for women. When you have too big a breast
• 24:54
  that it's hurting you, like it's causing back pain or something like that.
• 24:58
  Now, I will say I haven't seen a lot of really skinny women with large breasts.
• 25:02
  So if you lose weight, you could also do it that way instead of going the surgery route. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:08
  Well, I didn't know men does the breast surgery. Yeah, when they have man boobs, yeah.
• 25:13
  Oh, wow. I've seen them do the liposuction to get the, you know,
• 25:16
  the abs, but I've heard of those.
• 25:19
  When they're overweight, because sometimes when men lose the weight,
• 25:23
  they keep the boobs because it was an estrogen dominant thing that added the
• 25:27
  boobs. I see what you mean.
• 25:29
  It's just like another form of liposuction. So some people do it right.
• 25:32
  You know, a lot of people go I don't recommend this, but post-pregnancy to do a breast lift.
• 25:36
  I say post-breastfeeding is the best time to go.
• 25:40
  But if you're going to have more kids, I would recommend waiting until you're done having children.
• 25:45
  Because it can mess up your milk supply too.
• 25:48
  Right. A lot of people do it after weight loss.
• 25:51
  If you've lost a lot of weight, your boobs may be gone.
• 25:54
  That's another thing. I've seen a lot of women that get down to like 110,
• 25:59
  115 pounds and now their boobs are gone. I came from size, cup size C to A, you know?
• 26:05
  Yeah. And I loved it. You did? Yeah, and I don't need any work done, no.
• 26:09
  Well, and some people just do skin tightening, right? They'll slice a little
• 26:12
  bit of skin off and they'll move it around a little bit. Right. You can do that too.
• 26:16
  But now you say weightlifting is now. Weightlifting?
• 26:18
  I'm telling you. Look at these pec muscles.
• 26:21
  Yeah. I'm beating my hand on my chest. I got some pec muscles.
• 26:25
  And I hadn't been doing a lot of chest presses because I had torn my rotator
• 26:29
  cuff, but it's on the nicely healing on the mend. So now I've been doing it and I was like,
• 26:34
  Look at my chest. I was showing off my pecs to my trainers like,
• 26:38
  oh, yeah, those look like some good pecs today.
• 26:40
  You do. I'm like, yeah, I'm just going to work it that way.
• 26:43
  Yeah, I think it's less invasive. I already have big shoulders,
• 26:46
  so I've got broad shoulders, so it's all good. It's more healthy anyway.
• 26:51
  Yes, and then you don't have to deal with the scarring or potential of like an implant bursting.
• 26:56
  And the pain, I took care of two of my friends.
• 26:59
  After breast surgery? After one, it was a boob lift, and yeah,
• 27:03
  one, it was tummy tuck. The pain they go through. I think I'll die from the pain. I don't know.
• 27:07
  No, you'll be fine. Most people forget it like pregnancy pain.
• 27:11
  No, the thing they go through the first couple days, I think I'll die from the
• 27:15
  pain from heart attack or something. No, you'll drug yourself.
• 27:18
  Oh, yeah, you're right. You'll just drug yourself so you can't feel anything. Yeah, no, it just...
• 27:22
  Give me goosebumps. The cost on breast lifts are about $5,000 to $15,000,
• 27:27
  depending on where you go.
• 27:28
  We're adding it up now, right? So if you don't... That's vacation.
• 27:31
  Yeah, $5,000 to $15,000. Well, yeah, but the breast lift is permanent.
• 27:35
  And it takes about two to six weeks to heal. Is it really?
• 27:38
  Mm-hmm. You can have the same type of complications, I think,
• 27:41
  as your face. You can probably get an infection.
• 27:43
  Mm-hmm. Scarring is always going to be there.
• 27:46
  The thing with implants, you can have them burst. And then numbness.
• 27:50
  Your nipples could be numb. And here's the thing. My nipples are way too sensitive
• 27:53
  to even risk it. Yeah. No.
• 27:55
  You don't want to. No. Now, let's talk about the procedure that every woman,
• 27:59
  after having a C-section in multiple babies, wants.
• 28:02
  Okay. That's the tummy tuck.
• 28:05
  The tummy tuck, yes. But I think if you could go through...
• 28:08
  Because I had a C-section. My doctor said, the guy that did my eyes,
• 28:12
  because I also asked him about my tummy tuck.
• 28:14
  Yeah. He goes, you have a C-section. You get through that, the tummy tuck piece of cake.
• 28:20
  Yeah, the tummy tuck should be easy because they're not slicing through like
• 28:22
  to get moving your muscles around and moving your organs around to find the baby.
• 28:27
  It's just an external thing. Yeah. He said it's just like a layer underneath your skin. Yeah.
• 28:33
  That's it. And also they may stitch up your abs if you have the split abs.
• 28:37
  Yeah. You get through the C-section, you could get through anything.
• 28:41
  Well, the tummy tuck is nice. A lot of times with the tummy tuck,
• 28:44
  they'll also do liposuction.
• 28:46
  In your stomach area, they might do liposuction in your back,
• 28:50
  so they might reach around your back.
• 28:51
  And sometimes when they do the tummy tuck, they do a tummy tuck 360 where they
• 28:55
  actually cut all the way around your sides and your hips to tighten your back
• 28:59
  as well. Then you have scar.
• 29:01
  You'll have a scar all the way around, yes. It's not a full 360.
• 29:05
  It's like a 270, but you'd have a scar most of the way around your body.
• 29:09
  Oh, I don't know. I like that.
• 29:10
  I don't like that either. But I've known people that have done it, and they enjoy it.
• 29:15
  I did ask if they had like any skin tightening anywhere, and they said a little bit here and there.
• 29:19
  But they're only a year out, so they're still adjusting. But that's kind of the procedure.
• 29:24
  So they're going to do a tummy tuck, possible liposuction. And if you have split
• 29:28
  abs, they can tighten those up too.
• 29:30
  Now, you have an option. You don't have to do the back procedure.
• 29:34
  You don't have to have them go all the way around. That's just an option.
• 29:37
  And that's only if you have a lot of sagging skin on your back. I see.
• 29:40
  But when you do, I think, honestly, if I did the tummy tuck,
• 29:43
  I'd want to do that first. And then if I needed to, maybe go back and do the back.
• 29:46
  Yeah, I would just stick with the front. I like the front, too.
• 29:49
  I think my back is tight enough.
• 29:51
  I'll just weight lift my back. You could lift. You could do the fly.
• 29:54
  You could do the butterfly.
• 29:56
  Exactly. You know? I have a nice V shape with my shoulders anyway on my back.
• 30:00
  So I kind of want to keep that. I don't want it to be too tight.
• 30:03
  Right now, I don't want anything done. I'm good.
• 30:06
  Well, there's the mommy makeover too, right? So if you do a tummy tuck,
• 30:10
  you could also combine it with a breast procedure. Okay.
• 30:14
  So it's tummy tuck, breast procedure, liposuction, sometimes neck lift at the
• 30:17
  same time, sometimes thigh lift.
• 30:19
  Oh, wow. And there are people that if they're getting a C-section done,
• 30:24
  they'll get the tummy tuck done right there on the table right after the C-section.
• 30:27
  They could do it? They can do it for you. So, like, you'll do the C-section,
• 30:31
  and then immediately you'll do the tummy tuck. You schedule it back too bad.
• 30:35
  You schedule it back, same day, same time. Yeah. So they'll cut out the baby.
• 30:38
  The C-section's done. They take the baby, and then the plastic surgeon comes in. Comes in.
• 30:44
  And he trims down your stomach. Huh. And on the tummy tucks,
• 30:47
  by the way, they do move your belly button. So your belly button gets moved.
• 30:50
  So if you have a sensitive belly button that has a little bit of an erogenous
• 30:53
  zone for you, because some people do, you may not want your belly button moved.
• 30:56
  That is true. But then if you do right away, how do you know where your belly
• 31:00
  button is going to be? They actually will show you.
• 31:02
  They will actually point out to where they're going to move it to.
• 31:04
  They can estimate that. Oh, I see. I see. Yeah.
• 31:07
  It's going to take out excess skin. It's also going to take out excess fat.
• 31:11
  There is a limit in most states to how much fat you can have removed.
• 31:14
  Did you know that? I did not know that. Most states don't allow you to have
• 31:17
  more than 8 to 10 pounds of fat removed at a liposuction.
• 31:20
  However, when you're doing a tummy tuck, you have fat attached to the skin.
• 31:24
  So they can take actually out more fat because of that. They probably be more
• 31:28
  permanent than liposuction.
• 31:30
  But they can only take 8 to 10 pounds out with the liposuction,
• 31:33
  depending on the state you're in. And some states only allow 5 or 6 pounds.
• 31:37
  Oh, wow. So don't think that liposuction is going to make you skinny. It just won't.
• 31:42
  Yeah. On your arms, too. If you have extra fat on your arms and they cut the
• 31:45
  extra skin on your arms, they can take fat from there, too. I'm not sure I'm
• 31:49
  going to put myself through that pain.
• 31:51
  They said that I read a lot about it. They said it's the most,
• 31:53
  the procedures is easy, it's quick, but the recovery is very,
• 31:57
  very painful because you tend to, your arm, you move.
• 32:00
  You move, you're picking stuff up. Yeah, that's why they said it's actually.
• 32:04
  Well, I just wouldn't want the scar.
• 32:05
  That line. That line underneath, yeah. I wouldn't want the scar.
• 32:09
  But for the midsection, for the tummy tuck, I've already got the scar from the C-section.
• 32:13
  Yeah. So the scar is going to be right in the same place. And you wear clothes covered anyway.
• 32:17
  That's why it doesn't bother me. Yeah. Well, you were wearing a bikini.
• 32:20
  The only person that's going to see it is your partner. And hopefully they've
• 32:22
  already seen your C-section anyway. Yeah. You know?
• 32:25
  So, yeah. Now, it is a longer recovery. For what? Which one? For the tummy tuck.
• 32:29
  For the tummy tuck. The tummy tuck. So the tummy tuck is going to typically
• 32:33
  take you four to eight weeks. And most people say it's eight weeks.
• 32:35
  They have two different kinds. Well, there's actually more than two,
• 32:39
  but we're going to talk about the two different kinds. They have a drainless
• 32:41
  tummy tuck and a drain tummy tuck.
• 32:43
  Now, the drainless is where they
• 32:45
  stitch you up so tightly inside that you don't have any fluid buildup.
• 32:51
  Okay. And so you don't need a drain. Some plastic surgeons don't like it because
• 32:55
  they say that it can cause dimpling. Okay.
• 32:59
  And it may, but so can the drain. So either one can cause dimpling.
• 33:03
  And then the drain one is where for like a week or so.
• 33:07
  You come home with a drain hanging up your belly? You have this couch coming
• 33:11
  up. I actually had to do this for a friend of mine.
• 33:13
  I actually had to empty her drain. Oh, no. And it's filled with fluid and blood and it smells.
• 33:18
  Oh. Because, you know, rancid, or it's not rancid, but stinky blood,
• 33:22
  you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have just one drain. You have multiples.
• 33:26
  So she had, I'm going to say three or four. I don't remember specifically.
• 33:31
  How long you have to do that? Every two hours we would check.
• 33:34
  And then overnight, every four hours we would check. And we would drain it.
• 33:38
  And then you have to kind of press on certain areas to make the drains come
• 33:41
  out. Come on. And then you just dump it in the toilet.
• 33:43
  And you have to measure because what they're doing is they're checking to make
• 33:46
  sure the fluids go down. Uh-huh.
• 33:48
  And as the fluids go down in amounts, then eventually the drains can come out. Okay.
• 33:53
  Now, the problem with the drain procedure is the risk of infection.
• 33:57
  Because you have these basically drains that go into your insides for a week or more.
• 34:02
  Well, if I ever decide to do this, I'm going to stay at the facility until all
• 34:08
  those things coming out. They don't allow you to do that.
• 34:11
  No. When you do a tummy tuck, it's usually they might keep you overnight,
• 34:15
  but that's going to be it.
• 34:16
  So you come home with a pouch? You come home with multiple pouches,
• 34:19
  depending on how the tummy tuck procedure worked, whether you also did the sides and the back.
• 34:24
  I wonder I would come home with a pouch, too, if I do my arms.
• 34:27
  I don't think that's the case. I don't think there's a drain on your arms,
• 34:30
  but we would have to do the research.
• 34:32
  But I know there's a drain on your abdomen. There's no drain on your neck or your face.
• 34:36
  That is true. It's just because the fluid tends to build up in your midsection.
• 34:42
  You have to be careful of infection. You have to make sure that you're sanitizing
• 34:47
  the whole area when you're cleaning up the drains.
• 34:49
  And you have to record all the fluids. All the fluids. Just like you're recording
• 34:53
  all the pain meds. Oh, okay. So you drain, you measure it. Okay.
• 34:56
  Yeah. So the drain lists, they won't do if you're too skinny. Okay.
• 35:01
  For some reason. Or if you have, it depends. Huh.
• 35:04
  And it depends. There's some doctors that don't do the drain anymore.
• 35:07
  And there's some doctors that won't do the drain list.
• 35:10
  So that might be when you select your doctor, one of your deciding factors.
• 35:14
  Well, I had the ACL reconstruct, right? I came home with dead bulbs.
• 35:18
  Yeah, the bulb, yeah. Yeah, let me tell you. The day when I go back,
• 35:22
  when they pull that thing out, there is the pain that when they pull that string out. Oh, my God.
• 35:28
  He pulled very quickly, though, but it's still like, I thought I'm going to
• 35:31
  have heart attack, sharp pain right into my heart. Oh, wow.
• 35:34
  Yes, I'll never forget it. So you would want to do the drainless as well?
• 35:38
  If I do, I don't want anything hanging off me, no.
• 35:40
  Yeah, I agree. No. There's going to be visible scarring, right?
• 35:43
  And so you're going to spend between $6,000 and $15,000 on a tummy tuck.
• 35:47
  Maybe up to $20,000, depending on how much work you have done.
• 35:50
  Wow. What if you could just eat good, be better, be healthy,
• 35:54
  and get skinny, you know? A lot of times you're still going to have extra skin. Yeah.
• 35:58
  Around that, but especially midsection. Yeah. They say, and I've done the research
• 36:02
  on this too, they say it takes about two years after you lose weight,
• 36:06
  if you're maintaining a weight for your skin to fully come back.
• 36:09
  Mm-hmm. And after those two years, if it hasn't come back, it most likely won't.
• 36:14
  I see. So what it is in two years. So if you want to wait two years to have
• 36:18
  your tummy tuck and you want to have less skin removed. Okay.
• 36:21
  Then you can wait two years and then maybe you don't have as much skin and less scarring, etc.
• 36:26
  Yeah. So you get to your goal weight and you just keep working out for two years
• 36:30
  and let's see, we'll take it from there.
• 36:32
  Yeah. You just have to deal with a little bit of skin flaps here and there and
• 36:36
  tuck them in your pants. and hopefully your partner is understanding.
• 36:40
  But honestly, I think it's better to get the weight off and deal with the skin
• 36:44
  later than to have all that extra weight just for your health in general.
• 36:47
  Yeah, just for your health in general. I mean, any surgery is complicated.
• 36:50
  Could be, yeah. You have to worry just like on this, like with blood clots.
• 36:54
  The infection is the big one, especially if you have the drained.
• 36:56
  Yeah, that was the one thing she had to worry about was the infection potential.
• 37:00
  And then scar tissue buildup too. You might have scar tissue.
• 37:02
  You could get scar tissue from the drain area. You could have little hard spots.
• 37:06
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.
• 37:08
  I don't know. If I would have done it, I'll wait till like the drainless procedures.
• 37:13
  I think so too. I think I would especially look for a doctor that does the drainless. Yes.
• 37:18
  And then there's the butt lift. So the Brazilian butt lift, we're not going
• 37:20
  to talk too much about because it's going out of style.
• 37:23
  The BBLs, the big wide, people still like to have them kind of like,
• 37:27
  But the big, wide butts are kind of going out of style. Just do your squats. Yeah, do your squats.
• 37:32
  Wash it and squats. Some people don't have butts. They'll get,
• 37:35
  like, implants like you do on your boobs, down in your butt.
• 37:39
  I think it's a little much. No, I don't know.
• 37:42
  I think it's, you know, just do your squats and wash it. Well,
• 37:45
  and, you know, most of the people that do the butt things are between 20 and 40 anyway.
• 37:49
  Yeah, that's true. They're a younger group. They like the big old butt.
• 37:52
  You know, we had that song.
• 37:54
  Was it Sir Mix-A-Lot? Baby Got Back. Baby got back, yes.
• 37:58
  Those are in 20s or 30s, yeah.
• 38:00
  I think in our age, I don't know, just the wall sit. Yeah, or hip thrusts, right? Hip lifts.
• 38:07
  So the butt lift can be, again, 8,000 to 15,000, and it's got a four to six-week heal time.
• 38:12
  Oh, wow. So remember, you're going to be out during this time.
• 38:16
  You're not going to go to the beach. You're not jumping in the swimming pool.
• 38:18
  You're not going to the gym. You're taking the time to just rest and recuperate.
• 38:23
  And if you have a bad diet, it might catch up to you. That's another thing,
• 38:27
  too. Six weeks of laying around.
• 38:29
  I know. I will be eating everything inside. Well, make sure your diet is clean
• 38:34
  and that maybe you fast every other day or something.
• 38:37
  Just make sure your diet is clean before you do any of these procedures or you're
• 38:41
  going to gain weight while you're resting and recuperating.
• 38:43
  Yeah. I think changing eating habit is a game changer for me and my family anyway.
• 38:48
  Yeah. I mean, we would spread ourselves every once in a while,
• 38:51
  you know, wedding, party. But for the most part, I think we're good.
• 38:54
  I think that's the only way. Yes. You know, stay healthy.
• 38:57
  You are what you eat. You always say that. You are what you eat.
• 39:00
  One of the best ways to go looking for a doctor is to check out the Board of
• 39:08
  Plastic Surgeons. I think there's an American Board of Plastic Surgery.
• 39:11
  You can go and you can look to see if they're certified. You want a certified
• 39:15
  doctor. If they're not certified, even if they say they are,
• 39:18
  believe me, you'd need to double check.
• 39:19
  Right. Because there have been many cases.
• 39:22
  Where people, I saw one in Florida not too long ago, where they said they were
• 39:25
  licensed, board certified plastic surgeon, and they didn't have,
• 39:28
  they weren't even licensed.
• 39:30
  Oh, my God. That's happened in our Asian community. Does it?
• 39:33
  Right. This is like back in 15 years ago. People go to San Diego,
• 39:36
  go to San Diego to do all these procedures because he accept all kind of insurance, all of that.
• 39:42
  Yeah. He was a fraud, and he's not even licensed.
• 39:45
  Yeah. And then they may cause infections. Yeah. It may not be so clean.
• 39:50
  Yeah. You might see it on the news. It was a huge thing 15 years ago. Oh, yeah.
• 39:55
  Besides just being licensed, you need to find out if they're even good at the
• 39:58
  procedure that they say they're doing. Don't believe the before and after pictures.
• 40:03
  Oh, no. Those a lot of times are photoshopped. And you could have a before and
• 40:08
  after picture because one procedure out of 20 worked well. Right.
• 40:11
  You can't really believe it. And a lot of times people in the neighborhood might
• 40:15
  give you a recommendation if a woman you know has done it.
• 40:18
  And she can kind of tell you what the bedside manner is. You can kind of trust
• 40:22
  online reviews, but they have to have a lot of them.
• 40:24
  So be careful with that, too, because online reviews might be faked.
• 40:27
  That is so true. Even between friends of her, she might not have the same skin type like you do.
• 40:33
  Exactly. And skin type might change. People with darker skin may have more scarring.
• 40:39
  So you have to remember that. Yeah. For us Asians, we keloid.
• 40:44
  You know what the keloid is? when the scar, instead of fainted away, they bulked it up.
• 40:49
  Oh, it bubbles up? It bubbles up. That's very common for my own.
• 40:52
  Well, there's lasers that can help decrease that.
• 40:55
  And now I saw the other day there's a laser that you can use on any color of skin.
• 41:00
  I know that people that have African-American or black skin or Asian or like
• 41:06
  a Hawaiian or an Indian skin, they've had difficulty with some of the lasers,
• 41:10
  the IPL lasers, because it can bleach the skin.
• 41:13
  Then it can make splotchiness or it just doesn't work.
• 41:16
  So now they're starting to find lasers that actually work. I'm not versed in it yet.
• 41:21
  I think coming out, there'll be more and more laser procedures that you can use for darker skin.
• 41:25
  That's going to be your next research. I'll have to do the research and help
• 41:29
  you out with that one. Yeah.
• 41:30
  Because then if you do a procedure, maybe you follow up with like a med spa
• 41:34
  laser treatment to get rid of the scar.
• 41:36
  Yeah. The scar will never go away 100%, but at least it could definitely make
• 41:40
  it so it's less... Let it fade it out. It fades it out, yes. Make sure that...
• 41:46
  Whatever doctor you have, so let's say you're going to a plastic surgeon nearby,
• 41:51
  that they also have hospital privileges near you as well.
• 41:55
  Because you may have to go to the emergency room after the procedure.
• 41:58
  Just realize that. And you want to make sure that your plastic surgeon can come
• 42:02
  to the hospital that you are closest to. That's why a lot of people will not go.
• 42:06
  Some people go out of the state to get plastic surgery, but then they regret
• 42:10
  it because if they have to go to the hospital, they can't have their plastic
• 42:13
  surgeon check on them. Yeah.
• 42:15
  So. Oh, those are things you have to think about. Yeah. There's some sites out there, too.
• 42:20
  You know how, like, when you go to a restaurant, there's like a Yelp to review the restaurant?
• 42:24
  So doctors get reviewed on, it's called Health Grades. I've seen that as well as Google.
• 42:29
  Oh, really? Google I've seen faked a little bit more, but Health Grades, not so much.
• 42:34
  So if you want to go look up a doctor and see how other people.
• 42:37
  Now, remember, some doctors have bad reviews because most people will give a
• 42:41
  bad review before they'll give a good one. Right. So just be,
• 42:44
  you know, take it with a grain of salt.
• 42:45
  But if a doctor has a lot of great reviews, maybe they are a good doctor.
• 42:49
  You are right. But just because they were good with everybody else doesn't mean
• 42:52
  they're going to be good with you. Right. You see, we all are individual.
• 42:56
  Yeah, I have to think about that too. You can kind of tell when you go in to
• 42:59
  meet with a doctor if they're nice to you and if they listen to you.
• 43:03
  If they talk over you or they dismiss your questions or concerns or they want
• 43:07
  to quickly move through the procedure and don't really want to take what you
• 43:11
  have to say into consideration, that's probably not a good fit. No.
• 43:15
  That means they're just too busy and you're just a number to them.
• 43:17
  You put your life in their hands. They better listen to you.
• 43:20
  Yeah. And you need to make sure that the anesthesiologist is licensed too because
• 43:25
  they're the ones putting you under for these procedures. That's true.
• 43:28
  You need to be concerned with all of that.
• 43:30
  Yeah. So you have a before and after checkup too, I think.
• 43:33
  You usually have multiple ones. Yeah, you have to have post-op.
• 43:36
  The post-op checkups are great.
• 43:38
  So here's what a doctor has to do. They have to go for undergraduate degree.
• 43:42
  Everybody, every doctor does. Right. And then they all go to medical school. Mm-hmm.
• 43:46
  So by the time they get to you, they've probably had 15 years of experience.
• 43:51
  Yes. They have to do residency and general surgery typically, so they should know.
• 43:56
  Mm-hmm. And this is a surgeon that gets licensed and certified,
• 43:59
  right? Mm-hmm. And then a plastic surgeon also has a fellowship.
• 44:02
  Right. Now, there was one that said that a lot of doctors that go into plastic
• 44:06
  surgery were in dental for a while, too.
• 44:09
  They are? Some of them have been in dental. So they went from dental to plastics,
• 44:13
  which I don't like. I want them to specialize in plastics and get really good.
• 44:17
  Yeah. And then they also have to, if they're licensed, they have to keep their
• 44:20
  continuing education up, just like we do in all of our other licensed careers.
• 44:24
  So I know I have to in my other careers. Every couple of years,
• 44:28
  I have to do my continuing education.
• 44:30
  I think the doctor, they have to do every year. Is it every year?
• 44:33
  Yeah, they have to do it every year.
• 44:34
  Well, it's good. There's so many different people that you deal with when you
• 44:38
  go in, right? So you're going to deal with a plastic surgeon.
• 44:41
  You're going to have the anesthesiologist. You have to make sure they are good.
• 44:44
  Right. One of the big complications I've heard that people have is when they
• 44:48
  have an issue with anesthesia.
• 44:50
  Anesthesia is a big thing. It is. And if you have other health conditions,
• 44:53
  make sure you tell them because that could impact the anesthesia.
• 44:57
  Yeah. If you have a liver condition, if you have a heart condition,
• 45:00
  if you have a kidney condition, even if you're diabetic, you can have issues with anesthesia.
• 45:06
  Anesthesia is the first step of surgery. You can remember that. It is.
• 45:09
  And if you've had problems with anesthesia in the past, you really need to let
• 45:12
  them know. I don't care how bad you want that procedure. Right.
• 45:15
  So you do need to. They're the first person to touch you. They are. Yeah.
• 45:20
  And then you're going to have nurses. I think it's important to have a good nurse as a good doctor.
• 45:26
  A good time and a nurse. Nurse does most of the work.
• 45:28
  They do. They're checking in on you. If you don't like the nurses,
• 45:31
  it's probably a bad sign that you're not going to like the doctor.
• 45:36
  So if there's any plastic surgeons out there listening to this podcast,
• 45:40
  hire better nurses because that's very important to people. Yeah.
• 45:44
  The guy that did my eyes, he has two people.
• 45:47
  The first one, this lady, all she does is just comfort you.
• 45:50
  Talk to you. She's listening to your problem. And then he has a nurse by his
• 45:55
  side while he was doing the procedure. Yeah.
• 45:57
  So he had, was it a physician's assistant or was it a nurse?
• 46:00
  The first one was a physician's assistant and the second one is a nurse.
• 46:03
  And there's even nurse practitioners that will get pulled in sometimes too.
• 46:07
  All these different medical terms, I kind of know from just,
• 46:12
  basically going to the doctor, but I haven't gone through any plastic surgery.
• 46:15
  Well, I know from, you know, that size of family, but I know all different nurses,
• 46:20
  they get different training.
• 46:22
  Like the nurse in OR, they get different training.
• 46:25
  If you're going to be a nurse or plastic surgeon, they all get different training.
• 46:30
  And the nurse has usually a better bedside manner.
• 46:32
  Yeah. They're the one who deal with you directly, actually.
• 46:35
  There's medical salespeople or medical consultants too that come in.
• 46:39
  They're the ones that try to upsell you.
• 46:41
  Yeah. I want you to realize that you are your only advocate.
• 46:45
  So if somebody comes in and tries to sell you on a procedure that you do not want, don't do it.
• 46:51
  Know what you want before you go in. You can listen to their advice,
• 46:55
  but don't make a decision right then.
• 46:57
  I would do all my research. Do your research first and don't select the first plastic surgeon.
• 47:02
  I had a friend that did a tummy tuck and she interviewed like six or seven plastic
• 47:08
  surgeons before she selected one. Of course.
• 47:11
  And a couple of them, and the thing is, is what she wanted done actually evolved
• 47:15
  over time because she was just going to go on for a tummy tuck.
• 47:18
  And then she realized her stomach was split, so she needed to stitch up her stomach.
• 47:22
  And then one of the plastic surgeons said, well, you should probably go all
• 47:26
  the way around because you've got a lot of saggy skin in your back.
• 47:28
  Huh. And she decided to do that as well. And that was her choice.
• 47:33
  But one of the plastic surgeons says, oh, we just need to do liposuction for
• 47:37
  you and do a little bit of nip here and you'll be fine.
• 47:39
  And she didn't like that. And that's what she originally thought she was going to do.
• 47:43
  But when she went to the other plastic surgeon that showed the difference that
• 47:47
  a full 360 would do with the liposuction, et cetera, and the stitching,
• 47:51
  she liked that results the most.
• 47:53
  And she liked his bedside manner, the boast. See, it's how you have to interview
• 47:58
  all of them. You do. As much as you could anyway.
• 48:01
  And there were other places that were closer to her house, et cetera.
• 48:05
  But she did not like the personalities of some of the doctors.
• 48:09
  Oh, well, how about price-wise? You can't go cheap for that one.
• 48:12
  She actually got it all done for, I think it was right around $10,000.
• 48:16
  Is it really? She got the full 360, the liposuction, the tummy tuck,
• 48:20
  the belly button moved, and the stomach stitched for $10,000.
• 48:24
  Huh. That's less than the car. Yeah, it was like $10,000 and a little change.
• 48:28
  But it was, yeah, and then she financed it. So let's talk a little bit about that.
• 48:32
  They even finance this with 0%? They do. There's a couple things that have been
• 48:36
  going on in the med spa arena as well as the plastic surgery arena.
• 48:41
  A lot of these companies have partnered with banks that will do 0% or a very
• 48:47
  low percentage, depending on your credit score, etc.
• 48:49
  And what they'll do is they will split the procedure out over 12 months to 5
• 48:55
  years, and you can do monthly payments. So let's say it's $10,000 and you want
• 49:00
  to pay it off in a year, it's going to be like $900, $800 a month,
• 49:03
  right? Something like that.
• 49:04
  $800 and change a month. Right. You could pay $800 and change them up.
• 49:09
  Now, when you sign up for these, because I've actually signed up for one because
• 49:12
  I was like, 0% financing can't beat it.
• 49:14
  So I know when you sign up for these, they're going to run a full credit check.
• 49:18
  So it is going to ding your credit.
• 49:20
  Then you get to pick which payment plan you want. And here's how they kind of get you.
• 49:26
  They show you the payment plan for 0% that you pay off in 12 months.
• 49:30
  Okay then they say oh for 2.9 you
• 49:34
  can pay it off in 24 months and then for 6.9
• 49:37
  you can pay it off in three years or something like that and they go up from
• 49:41
  there and it's going to be more than well eventually the interest you know it
• 49:45
  adds up i mean they go all the way up to 20 if you wanted to go for five years
• 49:48
  or something like that but they show you the monthly payment and i think a lot
• 49:52
  of people oh i can afford that monthly payment easier just like buying a car just like buying a Oh,
• 49:57
  if I do it after five years, it's much more affordable than doing it for one.
• 50:01
  I've always done the one just so I can get paid off and I get the zero percent.
• 50:04
  But you have to be careful not to click the wrong box to get a longer payment
• 50:10
  plan and then you also get an interest rate that's higher.
• 50:14
  So that you have to, when you fill out the application, you go slow.
• 50:18
  Because I once checked the wrong box and I had to cancel that loan and redo
• 50:22
  a new one. So just a heads up.
• 50:25
  Then on top of it let's say you get the zero percent
• 50:28
  financing if you are one day late
• 50:32
  your interest jumps up to maybe 20 percent wow
• 50:35
  so realize that if you are one day late those zero percent offers and that's
• 50:41
  the same thing on sometimes on buying a car if you are a day late yes the same
• 50:45
  with the car the interest is going to go astronomically high right and a lot
• 50:50
  of people are late paying their bills. I would invite for that.
• 50:54
  I was going to do that. I wouldn't have them set up taking it right out. You should.
• 51:00
  Actually, the way I do it is I have set it up so I do payments every two weeks
• 51:05
  so nothing ever gets missed.
• 51:06
  Or you could do a payment every three weeks, right? So you're getting extra
• 51:09
  payments. I always pay it off early.
• 51:11
  You got to set it up so it's an
• 51:12
  automatic debit. But I didn't know plastic surgery has finance available.
• 51:16
  Plastic surgery has finance. That's how most people do it.
• 51:20
  And then you set it up. Now, if you're going to use a credit card to pay it,
• 51:24
  because some people say, oh, I'd like to use a credit card.
• 51:27
  A lot of times these banks will charge you 3% interest or 3% on the price when
• 51:33
  you're using a credit card. It's called a credit card transaction fee.
• 51:36
  So even though you think you got 0%, you're also paying 3% for every processing transaction.
• 51:43
  Wow. So that's how the financing works. So that's kind of the back end story of the financing.
• 51:48
  So if you want to go and you want to have $40,000 worth of procedures done,
• 51:52
  because we've kind of told you the pricing on all these things.
• 51:54
  You can go have $40,000 procedures and finance the whole thing. Wow.
• 51:59
  Yeah, you don't have to pay it off right away. You're buying a car.
• 52:01
  It's like buying a car, but you're buying a face or you're buying a body. Yeah.
• 52:05
  You probably be more happier. Yeah, you might.
• 52:08
  You might. It might give you confidence that maybe you make more money because of it.
• 52:12
  Maybe you have a scar that you had. There was you have some type of scar tissue
• 52:15
  on your face or something that makes you feel insecure about yourself.
• 52:19
  And you go have it done and now you're making more money and it's a good thing for you.
• 52:23
  Yeah, that's something to think about. It is. But you do have to set realistic expectations.
• 52:28
  That's true. Because I think some people think I'm going to go in and get this
• 52:31
  plastic surgery done and my whole life is going to change.
• 52:33
  And it doesn't. That's going to be me because I'm going to be cocky.
• 52:36
  You're going to be a cocky what? B-I-T-C-H?
• 52:39
  B-I-T-C-H. You know, my shit don't stink now.
• 52:44
  Her shit don't stink. She can say shit. It's okay. You know?
• 52:47
  Yeah. That's going to be my personality, I think. No, you wouldn't get that
• 52:51
  cocky. You're too lovable.
• 52:52
  I don't know. I do encourage you to set realistic expectations.
• 52:56
  Always go with multiple opinions and don't take the cheapest one,
• 53:00
  just like Diva Cat said. Oh, yeah, no.
• 53:02
  You get what you pay for. I always believe in that. And my mother always tell
• 53:06
  me since day one, you get what you pay for, even the food you eat.
• 53:10
  I have heard of people, they go in for plastic surgery.
• 53:14
  They pick their doctor and their doctor has an emergency and they get sick or
• 53:20
  they have a family emergency and they have to go away.
• 53:23
  And they try to have someone step in. Oh, no, no.
• 53:26
  Never accept that. If they have to reschedule your surgery, reschedule it.
• 53:30
  Yes. Keep your doctor, because typically the person that steps in is somebody
• 53:34
  that's in training, and you don't want to be someone's experiment.
• 53:38
  You know what I mean? You don't want to be the one person that they're learning off of.
• 53:41
  Yeah. When I had my knee surgery, that's just for my knee, my from the ski accident, my ACL reconstruction.
• 53:47
  I talked to five different orthopedic surgeons. Did you?
• 53:50
  That's a lot. Yeah. I decided with the first one. With the first doctor? Yeah.
• 53:56
  And why did you pick that first doctor? He's very thrilled and he's very, I feel comfort with him.
• 54:01
  Yeah. And he walked through my whole procedure. He takes time to walk through
• 54:05
  my whole procedure. The other half of nurse come talk to me.
• 54:07
  I don't want no nurse talk to me. Exactly.
• 54:09
  No. That's the thing that my friend who had the tummy tuck done, she said the same thing.
• 54:14
  They walked through the whole procedure with her. They spent a lot of time with
• 54:17
  her and made sure she felt comfortable.
• 54:20
  Yeah. The doctor, not the nurses. Not the nurses, no. I mean,
• 54:23
  he has the nurses behind you, behind him, talk to us.
• 54:27
  But he's the one who talked to me directly.
• 54:29
  Yeah, I think AI is going to change some of this stuff.
• 54:32
  But the human-to-human contact is going to be so crucial in the medical field
• 54:36
  going forward. We don't want to hear from the nurses.
• 54:39
  No, we don't want to hear from nurses. We want to hear from the doctor that's
• 54:41
  going to be cutting into us.
• 54:43
  Yes. And I know most of the time the nurse probably close you up.
• 54:46
  But the one that cut me, they better be talking to me. The one that closes me up better be the doctor.
• 54:50
  Because that's where you get your scar from, right? Yeah. So I want the one
• 54:54
  cutting me and closing me up to be the doctor.
• 54:57
  Yeah. That's why I'm going to have my eyes done. I know the whole thing that
• 55:01
  goes on in the room. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 55:03
  And he's talking to me the whole time. He turned on. He said,
• 55:05
  what kind of music do you want to hear?
• 55:07
  Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Yeah. I want classical. It's best for healing.
• 55:11
  Yeah. Or do some binaural beats or something like that. No, I do the yoga one. Oh, did you?
• 55:16
  I did the one from DJ something. He has the whole playlist. Yeah.
• 55:19
  Yeah. It was very soothing.
• 55:21
  Well, let's now talk about people that travel overseas to have all these procedures
• 55:26
  done. I've heard a lot lately.
• 55:28
  And you know why, right? It's cheap. It's cheaper.
• 55:31
  That's the number one reason. Some people say it's shorter wait times,
• 55:35
  but for Pete's sakes. Here, it's like a month to two months.
• 55:38
  You're not waiting a long time typically for a procedure.
• 55:42
  It's really because it's cheaper. My own brother didn't decide overseas. Did he?
• 55:47
  Well, and a lot of times it's all-inclusive. It is.
• 55:50
  That's the key. That's all-inclusive. As long as you get there on an airplane,
• 55:53
  they will pay for your hotel.
• 55:55
  Yeah. They will keep you there until, like, your drains are out,
• 55:58
  right? Or if you don't have drains, they'll keep you there for a week to recover.
• 56:02
  Yeah, both you and your caretaker. And your caretaker. and they'll provide meals and transportation.
• 56:07
  And it's kind of like a five-star hotel. Yeah, it's a resort in there.
• 56:11
  They have everything in there. A lot of, yeah. Some people go to Thailand.
• 56:14
  They go to different places.
• 56:16
  Increasingly, Mexico is one of them too. I've heard Turkey, but I've heard some
• 56:20
  bad things about Turkey.
• 56:22
  Is there really? Yeah, I heard somebody went to Turkey to get some plastic surgery
• 56:25
  done and they lost their kidneys or one of their kidneys. They came back without a kidney.
• 56:29
  They had a tummy tuck and one of their kidneys got taken out and sold.
• 56:33
  They don't have the same requirements we have here. So you got to be careful
• 56:36
  when you go to different places. But here's the top places that people go. They go to Mexico.
• 56:41
  They go to Turkey. Turkey's super cheap. And I've heard they've got some really good Turkish surgeons.
• 56:46
  You just have to be careful where you go. So Mexico, you come back with one kidney or two kidneys?
• 56:51
  Mexico. So the problem I don't like about Mexico is you go to Mexico,
• 56:57
  you might have a really good up and up Mexico facility and have the surgery.
• 57:03
  However, I've heard stories, and this is hearsay, but I've heard stories about
• 57:07
  people having a problem, having to go to a regular Mexican hospital that doesn't
• 57:13
  take your insurance. Oh, wow.
• 57:15
  And then they won't release you until you pay $15,000, $20,000, $30,000 hospital bill.
• 57:20
  Because they bill you at a U.S. rate. They're not billing you at the Mexican
• 57:23
  rate. And how do you know it's not a setup?
• 57:26
  And how do you know it's not a setup? And what you need to do is you need to
• 57:29
  get insurance for that country's hospital before you go. Wow.
• 57:33
  So that's something you should do. If you're going to go have surgery in another
• 57:37
  country, sign up for their health insurance that covers hospital visits.
• 57:41
  It can be like, no, some type of extreme care or something, you know.
• 57:44
  It doesn't have to be like full coverage. It just has to be in case of emergency hospital care. Yeah.
• 57:50
  That way they'll let you go. I know. I personally know two persons that went
• 57:55
  to Korea and did the whole thing. Korea is one. Yeah. Brazil.
• 57:59
  Is it really? People have been going to Brazil. People have gone to Panama for
• 58:02
  procedures. I did stem cells in Panama.
• 58:04
  Mm-hmm. Colombia is one. A lot of people have gone to Colombia and Brazil for
• 58:08
  the butt lifts, actually.
• 58:09
  Oh, wow. And then we did say Thailand. Dominican Republic is huge.
• 58:13
  South Korea is a big one. But South Korea is not that much cheaper.
• 58:17
  So you have to realize South Korea is not a cheap way to go,
• 58:19
  but they do a really good job. Really?
• 58:21
  They do a good job in South Korea and in Thailand. Yeah. Yeah.
• 58:24
  I've seen the result from both South Korea and Thailand.
• 58:29
  In Thailand, for $15,000, you have your whole 360.
• 58:33
  Yeah. You have your check-in a day before. Yeah.
• 58:37
  And you won't check out till 10 days after. There you go.
• 58:41
  For you and your caretaker. So for $15,000 in Thailand, you're getting the full stomach tuck.
• 58:48
  But you can do that for 10 here in the U.S. Yeah, but you don't get a caretaker.
• 58:51
  You come home with that bulb hanging off your belly.
• 58:53
  No, because you can do the drainless. You can do the drainless. Oh, okay.
• 58:58
  Yeah. But, I mean, if you wanted to stay here, maybe you could pay a couple
• 59:01
  grand a day if you wanted to.
• 59:03
  Because by the time you go over there, there is the risk of having complications.
• 59:07
  Oh, if I were to do anything, I would do right here.
• 59:10
  Would you? Oh, yeah. I would never go out of the country. Never.
• 59:13
  Yeah. And some people go to Canada. I've seen that, too.
• 59:16
  I've seen a lot of doctors advertising their services on Instagram lately,
• 59:20
  and they'll have videos of the before procedure and after procedure,
• 59:24
  which is kind of interesting.
• 59:25
  When it's a video, it's less likely to be filtered, although you can filter those, too.
• 59:29
  But the videos are nice to kind of watch the before and after pictures of the procedure. Oh, wow.
• 59:35
  I don't know. If I'm going to do something, I think I'll prefer to do right here. Yeah.
• 59:39
  Well, can do it here. But sometimes there's procedures they do in other countries
• 59:43
  you can't have done here. Is it illegal here? Some procedures are not allowed here.
• 59:47
  Like, for instance, the stem cells that I did. I know that's not plastic surgery,
• 59:50
  but they don't do IV stem cells in the United States.
• 59:53
  Even now, they still don't do it? They don't allow it. You can do injections
• 59:57
  into joints, but you can't do an IV.
• 59:59
  Yeah. So, oh, that's two different things. That's what I want to do with my
• 1:00:02
  knees. The injection to my knees because of my cartridge is gone.
• 1:00:06
  Oh, yeah. You can do that with PRP or you can do it with stem cells.
• 1:00:09
  You can also do softwave tissue on that too or softwave. So here's the typical savings.
• 1:00:14
  All right. I got a table for you. I was going to ask. How much do you save?
• 1:00:19
  Typically, breast implants or breast augmentations are going to cost $7,500
• 1:00:23
  in the U.S. Okay. You're going to save...
• 1:00:26
  $3,500 to $5,000 if you go overseas. Now, you're still going to have to pay for your flight. Right.
• 1:00:31
  So it depends on how you might spend $1,000 on your flight. But the average
• 1:00:33
  cost overseas for breast is $2,500 to $4,000.
• 1:00:36
  Plus the flight you get there. Plus the flight. Okay.
• 1:00:39
  Okay. Now, remember, breasts are a little sensitive because if you have a rupture,
• 1:00:43
  you can't go back to your plastic surgeon.
• 1:00:45
  So be careful if you're doing a breast implant. Right. Tummy tucks in the U.S.
• 1:00:50
  Typically cost $10,000.
• 1:00:51
  Mm-hmm. All right. If you go overseas, it's typically $3,500 to $6,000. Plus the flight.
• 1:00:56
  Plus the flight. So you're saving $4,000 to $6,500, depending.
• 1:01:01
  And here's the thing. You're probably only saving $4,000. Because prices have
• 1:01:04
  come up in these other countries, too.
• 1:01:06
  Yeah. So you're saving $4,000. You're going to spend $1,000 or so on the flight. Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  And you run the risk. So you're basically going to save $3,000.
• 1:01:13
  Do you really want to deal with it? Right.
• 1:01:15
  Brazilian butt lift is one of the bigger savers, right? So it's $12,000 in the U.S.
• 1:01:20
  And some places don't do them anymore because of all the infections that have occurred.
• 1:01:25
  And the average cost abroad is $3,000 to $5,500. Oh, wow.
• 1:01:29
  Most of the, and here's the thing, different parts of the world do better at
• 1:01:32
  certain parts of plastic surgery.
• 1:01:34
  Like South Korea does great with facelifts. Right. And probably Brazil does
• 1:01:37
  a great job with the Brazilian butt lift. Right.
• 1:01:39
  So you want to go kind of where they do proceed, just like you want to pick
• 1:01:43
  the plastic surgeon that does the best job.
• 1:01:45
  I've heard Mexico did a good job on the tummy tuck. Probably.
• 1:01:50
  Yeah. I just want to keep my kidneys.
• 1:01:53
  You might come back with no kidneys. I want to make sure that they don't sell
• 1:01:55
  off parts of my organs or cut half of my liver in half and sell half of my liver.
• 1:01:59
  Yeah, you probably come back with like one kidney, a quarter of liver,
• 1:02:02
  and no more gallbladder. Yeah, I'm sick.
• 1:02:04
  Yeah, no. Yeah. Well, gallbladders aren't really for sale, but the kidneys and
• 1:02:09
  the livers, definitely. Although they don't want mine.
• 1:02:12
  They're like, you keep your liver. Right. And then there's like the nose lifts.
• 1:02:17
  So nose lifts in the U.S. typically cost nine grand.
• 1:02:20
  In here? In the United States. Nose lifts are a big procedure because they have
• 1:02:23
  to restructure the bone and everything.
• 1:02:25
  So in other countries, there tend to be $2,000 to $4,000. So that's a big savings
• 1:02:28
  there too. You know, South Korea is a...
• 1:02:30
  Thing about everything on the face for South Korea they're big on yeah and then
• 1:02:35
  the full facelift typically in the U.S.
• 1:02:37
  Is 15 grand like if you do everything face jaw
• 1:02:40
  neck 15 grand whereas abroad you can get it done for four to seven so you might
• 1:02:44
  save eight to ten thousand dollars there now how painful we talking like recovery
• 1:02:49
  here with all these procedures well I don't know how liberal they are with drugs
• 1:02:53
  in other countries it's true they might give you more drugs and I know you like your drugs. Unlimited.
• 1:02:58
  Unlimited drugs. I don't know. But I honestly, I wouldn't go to another country
• 1:03:03
  for a procedure unless you know what you're getting yourself into.
• 1:03:06
  There's so many risks related to it.
• 1:03:09
  Even going to another state, unless you know what you're getting into, I would stay local.
• 1:03:15
  I would stay within two to three hours of your house. Not even that.
• 1:03:19
  I think other countries good for vacation.
• 1:03:21
  It is. Now, if you have family in another country, they've
• 1:03:24
  done the procedures with those doctors and they were
• 1:03:27
  okay then maybe it's something you could consider here's the
• 1:03:30
  other thing if i go to south korea they're used to working on south korean
• 1:03:33
  women and south korean women's faces are differently structured than a scottish
• 1:03:37
  face so come back like korean i might come back looking more korean they might
• 1:03:41
  tighten up where i didn't expect them to tighten up and they did it because
• 1:03:45
  that's what they're used to doing so you need to realize that Maybe if you are South Korean,
• 1:03:51
  you might get better results in South Korea than you do in Alabama.
• 1:03:55
  Yeah. Right? You may get better results if you go to where you're ethnically, culturally more like.
• 1:04:02
  Yeah. I know in Asian community, Thailand and South Korea is a huge.
• 1:04:07
  Yeah. People go there. And probably if you're Hispanic, you might go to Mexico or Brazil or Colombia.
• 1:04:14
  Right? So those might be the choices. Maybe if you're Muslim,
• 1:04:17
  you go to Turkey and you don't have any fears of it.
• 1:04:19
  You just have to remember, there was a whole group of women that went to Turkey
• 1:04:25
  to have their tummy tucks done. And they all came back missing kidneys.
• 1:04:29
  Every single one of them. They went to some shady place and it was on the news
• 1:04:32
  and they all came back missing a kidney.
• 1:04:35
  And they just sold their kidneys off. So just realize there's risks when you go to other countries.
• 1:04:39
  Now, I'm not saying that has never happened in the United States.
• 1:04:42
  I don't know if it has or not.
• 1:04:43
  But I've never heard of it happening in the U.S. I want to keep both of my kidneys.
• 1:04:48
  I'll stay right here locally.
• 1:04:49
  Hence, again, why not to go cheap?
• 1:04:53
  Right? That's another thing, you know? Yeah.
• 1:04:56
  And then in other countries, you don't know what their medical regulations are. Yeah.
• 1:05:00
  You don't know how clean it is. You don't know how sanitary it is.
• 1:05:03
  They could be using dirty stuff and you don't even know.
• 1:05:06
  And the surgeons don't have the similar licenses as we do.
• 1:05:10
  That they might have nurses that don't have similar license.
• 1:05:13
  And they have places over there that are called surgery mills.
• 1:05:16
  They just, it's all about processing the numbers. That's why it's so much cheaper.
• 1:05:20
  I'll tell you why. The place that my...
• 1:05:22
  Brother did his eyelid. That's all they do. Eyelid all day.
• 1:05:25
  Hours on the hours. Oh, yeah. The whole time. Yeah. They just process you quickly, right? Mm-hmm.
• 1:05:30
  And then what happens if you have complications? Like, let's say you have a
• 1:05:32
  blood clot or you have, I don't know, a hematoma or the procedure's botched.
• 1:05:37
  Because a lot of times you don't see the final procedure until the swelling goes away.
• 1:05:41
  I know. Now you've got to go back again. Right. And they don't want to do, like, help clearance.
• 1:05:45
  Like, before I did my eye, you've got to go to the doctor, check your heart, all of that.
• 1:05:48
  What if something happens in the middle of it? You know? And if you have an
• 1:05:51
  emergency, you may end up paying more because you have to go to the hospital.
• 1:05:56
  Even if you have emergency care insurance, you may end up still going to the
• 1:06:00
  hospital and paying more than you would here. And one kidney left.
• 1:06:04
  Well, let's say that they don't take your kidneys. Let's hope for the best. Right.
• 1:06:08
  But let's say that you have a blood clot. Now you have to go to the emergency room. Get it.
• 1:06:11
  And your catastrophic care health insurance covers the basics at the hospital,
• 1:06:16
  but you still have to pay $4,000 or $5,000. And now you're actually paying more than if you had it here.
• 1:06:20
  I'm not saying you can't do it in other countries. I'm just saying weigh your options.
• 1:06:24
  Right. And then if you don't speak the language. Forget it.
• 1:06:28
  And you're trying to talk to a doctor that doesn't speak English,
• 1:06:30
  if you only speak English, because a lot of U.S. citizens only speak English,
• 1:06:34
  then you can have a problem.
• 1:06:35
  Again, you might want to go, if you're going to go, you might want to go to
• 1:06:37
  a country where you speak the same language. That's the key. And here's my big thing.
• 1:06:42
  If you're traveling, you have a higher chance of blood clots when you fly.
• 1:06:46
  Fly, yes. So you go there, you're there for a week or 10 days.
• 1:06:49
  What happens when you fly back and you have a blood clot? No.
• 1:06:52
  There's risk. There's risk. No. And what happens if the wound gets infected
• 1:06:57
  or the scar looks really bad?
• 1:06:58
  You don't really get the follow-up. No.
• 1:07:01
  And a lot of the local surgeons in the U.S., or if you're on Europe,
• 1:07:05
  in Europe, or in the U.K., they will treat you for follow-up if you have a complication.
• 1:07:11
  Yes, they do. And a lot of times it's included in the initial cost. Yeah.
• 1:07:15
  No. I think what I prefer, if I were going to do it, if I don't have money to
• 1:07:20
  do locally, then I would not do it. Yeah.
• 1:07:22
  Here was one of the things that happened before, too. And I think it was during
• 1:07:25
  the pandemic or 2022 or 2023, somewhere in there.
• 1:07:28
  They had an outbreak of tuberculosis bacteria, so TB. Oh, wow.
• 1:07:32
  And people that came back from the Dominican Republic in Mexico that had surgery
• 1:07:36
  there because they were using non-sterile something.
• 1:07:40
  And they came back and they had TB. Huh.
• 1:07:42
  So you could catch a disease not even related to this. You have to realize that.
• 1:07:47
  And you're also going to be on antibiotics for a while.
• 1:07:50
  You could have disfigurement issues if you're not careful.
• 1:07:54
  So just research, research, research. And I say research local as well as research in other countries.
• 1:08:00
  There's just going to be a lot more research if you're going international.
• 1:08:04
  No. Take care of yourself. Make sure you're protected. And there's international
• 1:08:08
  organizations as well. You can look up plastic surgeons on too.
• 1:08:11
  And there's like if you're going to go do it in Turkey, there should be like
• 1:08:14
  a Turkey place to look up the surgeons to.
• 1:08:17
  Don't you have an website? I mean globally to look at those?
• 1:08:21
  I don't know. there might be
• 1:08:22
  a global website, but I would say plan on spending a month there. I would.
• 1:08:26
  And then if you think about it, if you were, now you're taking a month off of
• 1:08:30
  work instead of just a couple of weeks. So you don't really save anything.
• 1:08:33
  You may not save anything at all. No. Here, you just go there.
• 1:08:36
  A week later, you go back to work. Yeah. So you could think,
• 1:08:40
  oh, I'm going to save $4,000.
• 1:08:41
  But sometimes when you pinch pennies like that, it's like a,
• 1:08:44
  what do they call it? A penny wise, a pound foolish.
• 1:08:47
  Yes. So you're actually losing money because of all the possible side effects
• 1:08:53
  or complications or things that can go wrong when you go internationally.
• 1:08:58
  I recommend staying within two to three hours of your home. And the only reason
• 1:09:01
  I say two to three hours is sometimes people live rurally and maybe they'll
• 1:09:05
  go to a big city to have it done, which is understandable.
• 1:09:08
  But even two to three hours away, if you want, you can typically go home a couple
• 1:09:12
  of days later and recover in your own home, which I think is less stressful, too.
• 1:09:18
  Yeah, I think three hours a month. Well, it depends. I mean,
• 1:09:21
  there's people in Colorado and Wyoming that might have to drive five hours to
• 1:09:24
  get anywhere. That's true.
• 1:09:26
  Just go to somewhere in your state, or if you're going to go out of state,
• 1:09:30
  that you do a lot of research.
• 1:09:32
  Right. Or if you're going to, like, maybe your family or friends have a place
• 1:09:36
  and they're going to take care of you, that's fine, too.
• 1:09:39
  I agree. So what's your first procedure going to be? Yeah, now that we talked
• 1:09:42
  about all this research, and I think I'm a good way I am right now.
• 1:09:50
  Now Diva Cat's like, well, I was thinking about doing it.
• 1:09:53
  I was ready at the beginning of the podcast, and now I'm not thinking about
• 1:09:57
  it anymore. I think right now I'm okay.
• 1:10:00
  Well, remember, typically you don't have your kidney disappear.
• 1:10:03
  Typically you don't get TB. Typically you're not going international.
• 1:10:07
  Typically you're going to be able to handle whatever comes your way.
• 1:10:10
  I don't know. I can't take pain that much. I'm not.
• 1:10:13
  It's funny. People think that it's going to be that painful,
• 1:10:16
  but they're so drugged out of it when they get done with their procedure.
• 1:10:19
  They don't even remember the pain.
• 1:10:20
  Do you know I still remember the pain, the C-section? You know how the next
• 1:10:24
  day they make you get up? Yeah. I still remember that pain.
• 1:10:27
  Do you? Yes. Yeah, so do I. I actually got released in the hospital the day
• 1:10:30
  after both of my C-sections.
• 1:10:32
  I know. They send you home. Yeah. And then I was like walking.
• 1:10:36
  I was walking. I was doing everything.
• 1:10:38
  I was lifting a heavy bag. I had to do it because I, you know,
• 1:10:43
  that's a whole other story.
• 1:10:44
  I still remember that pain. I am now that I'm thinking of it.
• 1:10:48
  And now we dig deep about the cut and the soul. I think I'm good for now.
• 1:10:52
  All right. Well, then I'll go first. Yeah, you go first. I'll take care of you.
• 1:10:56
  Yeah. But it's not going to work that well. You know why? Because I have a really
• 1:10:59
  good pain tolerance. She'll be like, oh, it's been three days and she's back to work. Yeah.
• 1:11:04
  And I should be able to do that, too. And then Diva Cat doesn't.
• 1:11:07
  She's like two months later, oh, I'm finally getting back to work.
• 1:11:11
  You have gallbladder attack. The next thing you know, you're like,
• 1:11:13
  oh, I'm good. I'm good. I got it. I got it. It's handled.
• 1:11:16
  Yeah, no. I don't like judging by you. No, no. Well, I think you can handle
• 1:11:20
  it. You think so? I'll help you.
• 1:11:22
  Okay. Yeah, I'll take care of you if you want me to. I told you.
• 1:11:25
  I still remember the pain of the C-section.
• 1:11:26
  I don't think this is as big of a deal as a C-section. And when you get a C-section,
• 1:11:31
  they don't give you drugs like they do this.
• 1:11:33
  Because when you get a C-section, most people are breastfeeding. Oh.
• 1:11:36
  So you have less medication. They don't want the medication to pass over through the mill to the baby.
• 1:11:43
  Now that I'm thinking of it, I didn't have any. Yeah, you get a little bit right
• 1:11:46
  after and then you're done. Yeah, once your IV fall off and that's it.
• 1:11:50
  Now that I'm thinking of that. They might give you like ibuprofen or something
• 1:11:53
  like that. Something that doesn't cross over.
• 1:11:56
  But they're not giving you a bunch of medications when you're breastfeeding.
• 1:11:59
  If you weren't breastfeeding, maybe they did.
• 1:12:01
  But I was breastfeeding. They didn't give me a bunch of pain meds.
• 1:12:03
  I don't know. I still remember my knee surgery when he pulled that thing out
• 1:12:06
  from my knee, that too. Yeah.
• 1:12:08
  Well. Yeah, no. That was different too. See, for me, they couldn't even give
• 1:12:11
  me pain meds because my blood pressure kept dropping so low that they couldn't
• 1:12:16
  give me any pain meds. Yeah, but you could take pain. I can, huh?
• 1:12:19
  Yeah. And my blood pressure stays low when I'm in pain.
• 1:12:22
  That's why I don't get it. I actually get to normal blood pressure when I'm in full labor.
• 1:12:27
  I'm in labor and I get normal blood pressure. That's my thing.
• 1:12:30
  Maybe you need to eat steak more. That's a whole nother conversation. Right.
• 1:12:33
  Yes. So I think we covered the full gambit today on plastic surgery.
• 1:12:38
  I think so. We went from facelifts to body lifts to international travel.
• 1:12:44
  International travel. Yes. And how to find your right doctor.
• 1:12:47
  I hope that this was beneficial for you.
• 1:12:50
  Yes. I hope so too. I hope you really think about if you're going to go overseas
• 1:12:54
  to do it. Yeah. I'm a little nervous about the overseas.
• 1:12:56
  Yeah. Me too. And I think that with less people traveling overseas,
• 1:13:00
  sometimes they get even more desperate for money. So you have to be careful with that.
• 1:13:03
  Yes. They could set you up at the hospital. You don't know.
• 1:13:06
  Yes. There can be scams involved. Yeah.
• 1:13:09
  And some people have even gotten kidnapped when they go overseas.
• 1:13:14
  That's what I'm saying. I hope you rethink about it. Just rethink about when
• 1:13:16
  you go overseas because you could be a target.
• 1:13:19
  Yeah, for sure. You're also away from home all by yourself potentially or just
• 1:13:23
  a caregiver and you might be missing your family as well. Mm-hmm. Yes.
• 1:13:27
  I would like to be home. Yes, me too. This is Diva Mia. This is Diva Cat.
• 1:13:32
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• 1:13:36
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• 1:13:38
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• 1:13:41
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