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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, May 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you don't Jack what Jack Morris? Did
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  Speaker 1: says it Ashley Jeff Warris Drive Time starts right now.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously I have not spoken to him. Um, you found
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  Speaker 1: out the same information that I found out at the
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  Speaker 1: same time that I that I found it out. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that for me, I kind of put football
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  Speaker 1: to the side, you know, I think that to me
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  Speaker 1: is an afterthought right now in and concern with Tell then.
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  Speaker 1: And I really believe in my heart that that Telvin
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  Speaker 1: knows that we're here, you know, to support him, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in any which way. Good morning and welcome in Jags
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  Speaker 1: Drive Time. Brian Sexton's John Owes your Ashland Sullivan. Um,
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars own no exactly unless they've had a conversation
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  Speaker 1: with Telvin. That we're not aware of what's going on
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  Speaker 1: with linebacker Telling because we don't know and perhaps you
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  Speaker 1: would agree you don't know what's going on. Though with
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  Speaker 1: every Instagram post that comes up, it gets a little
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  Speaker 1: bit wackier. So that's the top subject for today. Despite
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  Speaker 1: the fact that we had rookie minicamp, the situation surrounding
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars second team All Pro from two thousand Tivantine
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  Speaker 1: linebacker Kelvin Smith. And it leads off big things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: big thing one is Telvin Smith. And you mentioned with
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  Speaker 1: every Instagram post it gets a little more confusing with
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  Speaker 1: each one. Take a look, Why is it so crazy
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  Speaker 1: that I want to step? It's so crazy I want
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  Speaker 1: to step from the step away from the game, y'all
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  Speaker 1: just see it. Any things out stop going crazy? It's
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  Speaker 1: getting aggravated any football lane any I? Um, I don't
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  Speaker 1: really feel him on this one, although I feel for
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  Speaker 1: him because clearly he's at a point right now where
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  Speaker 1: he has to figure some things out. And if he's
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  Speaker 1: stepping away from football and a ten million dollars salary,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot to figure out. Um, it's I think
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  Speaker 1: it's the aggravating part that aggravated fans. Uh. And I've
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  Speaker 1: said this a couple of times. How fans react to
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  Speaker 1: this is clearly the secondary story. He's the primary story.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody hopes that if things aren't okay, which you assume
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  Speaker 1: they're not, that things turn out okay. But if the
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  Speaker 1: story is how people are going to respond to this
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  Speaker 1: and the reaction, the reaction initially was very positive and
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  Speaker 1: very supportive. My emails in the inbox were, hey, do
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  Speaker 1: what you need to do, get healthy. Um. This one
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday changed the tone of that clearly of you
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  Speaker 1: know what, we supported you. But there aren't really that
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  Speaker 1: many haters out there. No, no, I think most people
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  Speaker 1: wanted for the benefit of the doubt. But with that
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  Speaker 1: post and the more he posts things like that, I
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  Speaker 1: guess there's a couple of things. The more you get
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  Speaker 1: a little more concerned because it seems edgier like he's getting,
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  Speaker 1: but the less the fan base is going to be
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  Speaker 1: on his side. Again, the fan base on his side
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  Speaker 1: part is so secondary. But it feels like that's all
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  Speaker 1: we really had to talk about because we don't know
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  Speaker 1: what's really going on with him. Uh. And I just
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  Speaker 1: get more and more of a feeling Brian that Telvin
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  Speaker 1: playing for the Jaguars is getting closer and closer to
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  Speaker 1: being past tense. I would agree with you, and I
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  Speaker 1: have to add so I remember standing the locker room
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  Speaker 1: last fall in um November no December, after the Redskins
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  Speaker 1: came right and I turned to you. Telvin came back
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  Speaker 1: into the locker room to do an interview and he
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  Speaker 1: was wearing kind of a funky hoodie and he was
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  Speaker 1: talking and he was just It wasn't the same Telvin
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  Speaker 1: that would say would you hold on please, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: take a shower. He'd put on a clean shirt, combas
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  Speaker 1: hair and do the interview and you thought, wow, this
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  Speaker 1: guy is the epitome of what a professional is. How
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  Speaker 1: lucky they are to have a guy who can play
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  Speaker 1: and then who can represent like that to where we
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  Speaker 1: are right now. I mean, again, here's the sad part
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  Speaker 1: about our business today. Social media rumor in the uendo
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  Speaker 1: becomes just throw it out there once. We don't know,
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  Speaker 1: so you can say this that or the other thing,
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  Speaker 1: and it's unsubstantiated. We don't know, and the Jaguars apparently
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  Speaker 1: don't have a full base of knowledge on this one either.
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  Speaker 1: But this is not It didn't just happen in the offseason.
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  Speaker 1: We started to see some of it late last season,
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  Speaker 1: erratic behavior from him. And until he comes out and
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  Speaker 1: says something, we won't know because this is not anything
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  Speaker 1: that the league or the team was going to announce. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: one thing I've learned, Brian, and and I'm sure you
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  Speaker 1: have to in doing this for a long time, being
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  Speaker 1: around players for a long time. UM, I have become
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  Speaker 1: as I've gotten older, h less prone to try to
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  Speaker 1: make a snap judgment something like this. Twenty years ago
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  Speaker 1: I covered r J sourd Uh and only bring him
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  Speaker 1: up because it was a strange situation that was an
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  Speaker 1: off field where you're covering it every day and people
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  Speaker 1: are talking about it. Um. I've covered justin Blackman and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not putting what doing on a telivin in those
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  Speaker 1: categories and you can't. I don't know what it is,
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  Speaker 1: but it is a step away from the game off
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  Speaker 1: field situation that I just have gotten to the point
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  Speaker 1: where I don't want to judge it because I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: and I know fans want to jump to that conclusion
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  Speaker 1: of what it might be. We don't know. Um. But
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  Speaker 1: the the one outlier here that you can't figure out
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  Speaker 1: that you will want an explanation for at some point
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  Speaker 1: is the non communication with the team. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: about the Instagram. I mean I say I don't care
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  Speaker 1: from a team's perspective. They don't care about the Instagram
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  Speaker 1: post because that's not an official thing. Somebody asked me
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  Speaker 1: the ozone, Well, why haven't they put them on the
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  Speaker 1: retired list or the or why haven't they put them
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  Speaker 1: on the reserve? Well, because from their official point of view,
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  Speaker 1: they don't know what's going on because an instagrams. From
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  Speaker 1: a technical point of view, with the NFL and the Jaguars,
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  Speaker 1: he's right now no different than Jalen Ramsey in terms
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  Speaker 1: of he's just not here for a there's no trigger
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  Speaker 1: mechanism to move on a roster move. But the mysterious
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  Speaker 1: thing is, now, if you're going through a problem, why
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  Speaker 1: not communicate with the team? That will be the point
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  Speaker 1: where I'm sure they will want an answer for that.
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  Speaker 1: That has to be satisfactory for him to move on
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  Speaker 1: with the franchise. Right. I heard Tony but Selling on
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  Speaker 1: the radio talking about if I was Telvin Smith, I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be dancing around making Instagram posts him about to
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  Speaker 1: give up nine or ten million dollars. But the thing
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  Speaker 1: with me, that's so serious that he doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 1: care about the money at all, And that shows what
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  Speaker 1: a big problem is that much money that he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really seem to care about that. Well, if he's not listening,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure that his agent is telling him what
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  Speaker 1: he should and shouldn't be doing well. That's the other thing.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we don't know who you're communicating with. That's
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  Speaker 1: the communication, right, you don't know who's talking to him,
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  Speaker 1: who he's listening to, because he's harming his earning potential,
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  Speaker 1: not just this year if he sits out, but if
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars trade him, if they cut him and he
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  Speaker 1: goes somewhere else, at some point in time, his leverage
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  Speaker 1: is every team in the league is going to want
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  Speaker 1: to do a psych evaluation and find out where are
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  Speaker 1: you right now. He doesn't just walk in and get
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  Speaker 1: the contract and go, he's putting his earning potential at risk.
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  Speaker 1: So if he's not communicating with the Jaguars and just
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  Speaker 1: judging on the social media post, he's not communicating with
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  Speaker 1: the agency, the pr people that could help him. Probably
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  Speaker 1: not communicating with some family members too, if you just
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  Speaker 1: want to extend it little bit, he's kind of out
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  Speaker 1: there right now, and we just you hope for the
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  Speaker 1: best board because yeah, because again before the midpoint of
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  Speaker 1: last season, where this team wasn't doing well and he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't performing like he always had um, he was one
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  Speaker 1: of those two guys in the locker room absolutely. I
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  Speaker 1: mean he you could count on for everything. You wish
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  Speaker 1: him the best, that's for sure, all right. Big thing
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  Speaker 1: too is you don't know the solution to the problem
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  Speaker 1: if Telvin Smith cannot play next year is Quincy Williams.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of us did not know who this guy
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  Speaker 1: would before rookie mini camp, including national media. He wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even invited to the combine. And if you heard Daniel Jeremiah,
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  Speaker 1: very vulnerably, very candidly at the draft said I graded
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  Speaker 1: and did film work on four hundred different players. This
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  Speaker 1: person's name didn't come across my desk. This is a
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  Speaker 1: fascinating story. In the third round, not the seventh round,
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  Speaker 1: not undrafted. This is Quinnan's older brother. He plays linebacker.
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  Speaker 1: Quincy round. He's playing round Nick Tunan's older brother. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Here's the quote I love.
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  Speaker 1: Mitch Stewart is his head coach at Murray State. He
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  Speaker 1: says he tries to bend your face match every time
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  Speaker 1: he gets on the field. I've never seen him ever
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  Speaker 1: get knocked knocked back on contact. It doesn't matter what
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  Speaker 1: programs we have our face. I've never seen that kid
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  Speaker 1: get knocked backwards. He's always going forward. So I've done
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  Speaker 1: this a long time, like you, John. And when they
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  Speaker 1: drafted him at number overall, the alarm bells went off
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  Speaker 1: surrounding Telvin Smith. That was when I said something's up,
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  Speaker 1: because you don't move on a third round linebacker from
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  Speaker 1: Murray State. And let's be honest, this is really their
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  Speaker 1: fourth round pick. That's how they viewed it. Uh, you
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  Speaker 1: number ninety eight at the bottom of the round that
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  Speaker 1: they got from the Rams, and they said that they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a fourth round Page knew I wasn't gonna
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  Speaker 1: be there in round five, so this was their fourth
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  Speaker 1: round pick. But you don't move on a guy that
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  Speaker 1: you you know you that he don't move on a
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  Speaker 1: guy if you don't expect him to contribute. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that it's fair to suggest that he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be the starter and opening day. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: Telvin started nine games as a rookie and had more
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  Speaker 1: than a hundred and tackles. He had two sacks, an
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  Speaker 1: interception against Cleveland here that was a game altering interception,
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  Speaker 1: and he also had a couple of forced fumbles. So
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  Speaker 1: he worked his way into the starting lineup. And if
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  Speaker 1: they're spending on a linebacker. It's this one. So I
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  Speaker 1: go back to the famous Jim Moore quote, you think
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  Speaker 1: you know, but you don't, and everybody's just, what are
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars doing here? They didn't know. The Jaguars knew
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  Speaker 1: something was up with Telvin Smith. How much they know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but they knew something was going and
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  Speaker 1: they didn't want to let this guy slide because they
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  Speaker 1: see him as the replacement. Well, I think they knew
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  Speaker 1: um a couple of things at at the bare minimum
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  Speaker 1: and the contract situation with Telvin something else we have
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  Speaker 1: to get into at some point because if he doesn't play,
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  Speaker 1: the contract situation terms they capt changes. But at the
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  Speaker 1: time they drafted I do believe that they were looking
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  Speaker 1: at it like bare minimum, he's gonna play one more
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  Speaker 1: year here and then at some point we're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: to address it with a salary cap. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Telben was gonna be back in that scenario unless he
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  Speaker 1: outperformed what he did at the end of last season.
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  Speaker 1: But I think they were preparing when they drafted Quincy,
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  Speaker 1: but with the worst case idea of well, we'll see
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  Speaker 1: what happens, because clearly the following week when they signed
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  Speaker 1: the fourteen linebacker. Then at that point it's okay, we
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  Speaker 1: need to get some bodies in here. Fare what we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do. I'd be surprised if he starts, but I
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  Speaker 1: think by end of season what they would want would
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  Speaker 1: be Josh Allen to have come along enough to start
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  Speaker 1: in base on strong side, Miles in the middle, and
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  Speaker 1: Quincy on the weak side. But the fascinating thing is
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  Speaker 1: Miles is so versatile, and you have Jake Ryan coming
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  Speaker 1: in and Josh Allen so versatile that I don't think
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  Speaker 1: you're going to know the starters until training camp because
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  Speaker 1: there's so many moving parts. The good news they have options,
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  Speaker 1: the bad news they don't know. You know, no one
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  Speaker 1: was really sure what Kelvin Smith was going to bring.
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  Speaker 1: If you go back, he was a ten pound and
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  Speaker 1: that was probably an exaggeration. A two eighteen pound undersized
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  Speaker 1: linebacker drafted in the fifth round. It might have been
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  Speaker 1: a third round or had he not had a positive
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  Speaker 1: drug test at the combine. Uh So, kind of the
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  Speaker 1: same scenario here. I would say by mid season, this
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  Speaker 1: kid will have a significant role on the defense. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: not an every down player, but watching him running hit
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  Speaker 1: he can do that, just like Telvin did. The question
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  Speaker 1: is his instincts will find out. I found out so
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  Speaker 1: much about this guy doing rookie mini camp in views.
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  Speaker 1: I was sitting with him and he's an Olympic swimmer.
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  Speaker 1: That was his first love. PR major in college, very personal.
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  Speaker 1: Wanted to work in sales if he didn't work in football.
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  Speaker 1: And also he said if Culinary School had a football team,
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  Speaker 1: I would have gone and played there like him even more.
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  Speaker 1: I got a lot of interest. It's interesting, don't you
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  Speaker 1: think John I did so. The summation of this argument
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  Speaker 1: is only that the Jaguars knew what they were doing
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  Speaker 1: at even if the rest of the league thought they're
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  Speaker 1: off the rock or what are they doing picking? But
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  Speaker 1: that is a reminder to us all you don't know
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  Speaker 1: their board, you don't know their roster like they do,
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  Speaker 1: or the issues that they know, and the moves that
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  Speaker 1: they make aren't always just that was seen as a
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  Speaker 1: grasp what are they doing? And it turns out that
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  Speaker 1: was not what they were doing. And I think the
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  Speaker 1: the interesting the interesting about the linebacker corps. I had
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  Speaker 1: some emails saying over we've gone from one of the
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  Speaker 1: best linebacking corps to one of the worst. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily true. One thing is to bear
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  Speaker 1: in mind the way Telton was playing at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the last year. I don't necessarily think they're worse
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  Speaker 1: without uh. They lack maybe a few big plays, but
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  Speaker 1: at the end of last year he was not nearly
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  Speaker 1: what he had been in two thousand seventeen. And that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're better without him, but he had to
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  Speaker 1: play a lot better than he had at the end
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  Speaker 1: of last year. Also, they with Jake Ryan and Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen and Quincy Williams, things could be a lot worse
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  Speaker 1: losing Telvin Smith. Jake Ryan was gonna start for the
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  Speaker 1: Packers if he hadn't gotten hurt last year. Josh Allen's
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  Speaker 1: capable of playing that strong side, and Miles Jack is
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  Speaker 1: really good. If it's not like the cupboards bear there,
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  Speaker 1: they're not in disaster mode yet. Just the last thought
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  Speaker 1: on Telvin the player. Last year, they won two games
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  Speaker 1: late in the season, one against the Colts, and he
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  Speaker 1: had a key play where he forced to fumble that
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  Speaker 1: Myles Jack recovered to stop what would have been a
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  Speaker 1: scoring drive. And remember, had the Colts scored a touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: they kicked the extra point that that's enough to win
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  Speaker 1: the game because the Jaguars offense only Mustard, so that
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  Speaker 1: was a huge play. And then he had to pick
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  Speaker 1: six in Miami, which helped spark the win. UM So
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  Speaker 1: he did make game changing plays, but he wasn't stout
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  Speaker 1: against the run. He injured the shoulder. He clearly didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to engage with that shoulder later in the year.
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  Speaker 1: To me, he looked like, you weigh two in her pounds?
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  Speaker 1: Mean he was then, Yeah, So I get where you're
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  Speaker 1: saying on this one is is that the Jaguars with
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  Speaker 1: a pound or if that's what Quincy Williams ways to
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  Speaker 1: a two thirty UM and what Jake Ryan is there,
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  Speaker 1: they'll be fine a Linemack. I'm not saying they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to miss him because there's an impact, right it
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  Speaker 1: needs What they'll miss is the is the all pro
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  Speaker 1: level of Telvin Smith. But you didn't get that last year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that's really where the Yeah, the conflict is, like
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  Speaker 1: you got it all right. Big thing three is pro
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  Speaker 1: qualities after rookie mini camp. We saw that in the
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  Speaker 1: first two picks already. Jowan Taylor speaks highly of his
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  Speaker 1: rookie mini camp roommate. I mean, Josh with the best
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  Speaker 1: I went again, so you know, he made me better,
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  Speaker 1: and you know now I'm happy to be team as
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  Speaker 1: when we get to get each other better every single day.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I'm happy to hide Josh here. So
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  Speaker 1: Jowan Taylor said that he was asked at the Combined
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  Speaker 1: interview and Josh Allen was asked the same thing. Who's
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  Speaker 1: the best offensive limonar defensive lineman you went up against
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  Speaker 1: in college? And they both set each other at the combine. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I stood next to these guys in Nashville for the draft.
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  Speaker 1: I did not have any idea that Josh Allen would
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  Speaker 1: be there. So I just looked at him as you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's a prototypical pass rush for six five. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you guys saw him this weekend. Two hundred sixty five pounds,
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  Speaker 1: the arms, the hands, Um, he's wow, look at that guy.
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  Speaker 1: That's what stands apart. And then I stood next to
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  Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor with that wide frame and the huge, massive
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  Speaker 1: hands and thought, yeah, yeah, the Jaguars would be better
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  Speaker 1: if they had this guy at right tackle. And then
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  Speaker 1: they ended up with both of them. Um, that's the
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  Speaker 1: difference in the first round, in the first two rounds
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  Speaker 1: is that you get these guys who have the size
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  Speaker 1: to go with all of the other athletic or off
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  Speaker 1: the field attributes. And you want to talk about pro qualities. Now,
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  Speaker 1: both of those guys look and play like professional football players. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing physically that will hold these guys new. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you never know. We look at Williams and you said
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  Speaker 1: Quincy Williams and you said, okay, well he's not as tall,
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  Speaker 1: right that. There's nothing physically about these two guys that
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  Speaker 1: you say, well he is like this or that John Taylor, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Jonah Williams, the knock was, and that's a kid from Alavan.
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  Speaker 1: And I stood next to him. I can go right
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  Speaker 1: where you were going. Yeah, you just looked at him
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  Speaker 1: c U A. All right, rolling through a Tuesday morning
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  Speaker 1: Jags Drive time, Bryan Ashlyn John with you. Uh, And
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: we're at that time of the year where it's about
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: lists and it's about opinions. So I thought we'd look
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: at the division today. Nashal and I were kind of
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: chatting about it yesterday morning. Um, why don't we start
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: with quarterback? Just how do you rank the quarterbacks in
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the a f C South today? I mean, clearly, Andrew
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: luck is number one, right, um, But then you're you're
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: talking about Nick Foles, who has over the last two
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: years been a Super Bowl MVP. UM. Deshaun Watson. I
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: think he thought of as a highly attractive young quarterback,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: got his team to the playoffs last year. Marcus Mariotta
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: is in one of those pivotal moments, kind of like
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Jamis Winston is in Tampa. The first two picks of
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the draft overall in you know, they're kind of fighting
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: for their lives. Is Nick Foles number two? Where do
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you go with the Watson number two? Because he's younger
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and he's got those legs. Well, I think people would
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: be shot. I would put it like this, People would
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: be shocked if at the end of the year, like
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: it's still not number one. Um. I think people would
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: maybe be a little surprised if Marriotta is anywhere but
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: number four, but not as extreme down as like Marriotta
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: is right there. You wouldn't be shocked if even I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: don't think people really know Foles or Watson. Who would
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: be interesting that you say you don't know Foals because
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Jack Wars paid him a hundred million bucks. Now he's
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: going to be a new team it's different. Yeah, that's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: sort of changed. That's the question. It was fALS closer
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to Luck or is he in the middle of the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: pack there with Watson and and Mariota. Um well, I
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: think people nationally, most people nationally would probably put Watson
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Overfold because there's a there's a buzz about Watson still
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: a took from the draft. I'm not quite as big
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: on Watson and a lot of national people. I think
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: he's really really good. I think there are still questions
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: about how much he leans on DeAndre Hopkins. What would
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: he be with that DeAndre Hopkins. I think that's still
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: a little bit there, but he's in the top fifteen.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Uh And I would I would say by the end
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: of the year, will know uther hear Folds are better.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I would say right now it's probably a toss up.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I'll go with fALS, you know, based on his body
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: of worked the last two years and what he was
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: able to do. Now that the counter to that is
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: obviously they had terrific weapons and you don't know what
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: he's got here, what he's working with, but um body
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of work, I'll go with Folds to Watson, and you
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: have to factor in the offensive line that Watson had
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: last year as well, running for his life. A lot
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: of times you wonder how good it's going to be
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: this year, right, But looking at those four quarterbacks. I
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: remember when we were talking before the draft and everyone
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: was loving Josh Allen, but another pass rusher. When you
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: look at those four quarterbacks, you see why you need
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: that in a f C South. All right, let's look,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: speaking of pass rushers, at the pass rushers defensive line
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: of the a f C South. It's a toss up
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: here between the Jaguars and the Texans, you gotta think.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: But I think it's an interesting one at the very
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: least because the situation with Jadeveon Clowney is cloudy. Right,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: He's going to be franchise tagged and has not reported,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and you wonder when he will. But that Texans front
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: has for so long been considered the best in the
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a f C. But with J. J. Watt, who came
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: back last year, and Clowney and Whitney, mercialists did not
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: have a very good year last year. Um, compare that
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: now with Calais, Campbell, Unike and Gockway and without Fowler,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: now you plug in Alan uh, that to me is
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a toss up. Yeah, I would still have to give
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the edge because it's a group that is, because there's
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: three veterans. I would think the slight edge if you're
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: looking at it, you know, from an objective point of view,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: would be the Texans only because there's three veterans and
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen Josh Allen actually do it. Potential wise,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: if Josh Allen's as good as we think, he's gonna be,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: then edge of the Jaguars. But I just have a
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: tough time. You know, is Alan better than Merciless right now?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Is in Gockway Clowne Okay, call that a draw, call
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the first to a draw. I don't know that Allen
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: is better than Merciless coming in until we see it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: You know, you got me on the Clowney and Gockway
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: thing because Clowney is so much more of a difficult
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: matchup than a Gockway, and Dockway is a a speed
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: rusher with a couple of moves. So I think you're right,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: got to give the edge to the Texans there. Um,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not Merciless to me was not a factor last
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: year at all um, and so I think that to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: me is more of a draw but if Clowney is
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: on the field, they're number one because Clowney is so
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: physically overpowering and they move him around in so many
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: different places because of his rare athleticism. Um but and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the other side of the coin is is that the
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: best pass rusher, the best player that the Jaguars put
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: out there is Clay's Campbell and he's thirty two, And
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: at some point you start to wonder, well, will he
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: be half a step slower than he was? Can he
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: still perform at an all pro level in his eleventh
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: NFL season? He least yes, Yeah, so yeah, so the edge,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: You're right, the edge has to go there. The edge
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: has to go attentions there. But you know, the Jaguars
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: production has not been far behind over the and I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: think the Jaguars, because it wasn't as elite as we
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: saw in two thousand seventeen januarys have to take a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: small step up to get back to where they were not.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: It's worth pointing out that the Colts went and signed
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Justin Houston, and at times last year Houston looked like
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: he still had something in the tag. They're gonna move
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: him indoors, He's gonna play on turf. You know, that's
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: made guys faster in the past and giving him that edge.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: So I think that the Colts pass rush plus the
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: kid that they drafted from TCU is supposed to be
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: a track star. We'll see if he's got any pass
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: rush moves. Um, and they're thinking this year will be
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: a better year in Nashville with the kid that they
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: drafted from Boston College last year his name escapes me
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: um and Henry Henry's last name, and the veteran from
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Miami that they brought in whose name is escaping me.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Also the kid from Penn State who played in Canada
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: who came down here. You well, I was hoping your
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: your memory wouldn't fade you fade on you also. But
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: all right, let's look at it, bide receiver, because that
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: is something where the Jaguars are near the bottom of
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the total pull. You see the dif between DeAndre Hopkins
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: at the Texans. That's strong number one receiver d D.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Westbroog guess is that for the Jaguars. But that's that's
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a drop off. Yeah, I mean, I think if you're
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: looking at the receivers, DeAndre Hopkins is clearly the best
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: in this entire division, and I think Will Fuller is okay,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: but when you've got a guy like that on the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: other side, it certainly helps that. So I put them
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: at the top. I like what the Colts did? You know?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: They added the big guy from Carolina. I can't remember
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: his name either, but they signed They signed the kid
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: from Ohio State, Paris campbell Um. And you know Tennessee
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: has spent some draft capital. They brought an AJ Neil
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Are not AJ Needle, a J. Brown from from Old
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: miss A big deal for you, Uh, Tennessee. They've been
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: talking about Corey Davis being elite. They took him in
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the top five and he made place last year. If
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: he develops into what they think, which is a top
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: five receiver, which means you're mean top five pick, which
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: means you're a top ten overall receiver, and they're very
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: dangerous um clearly from a national perspective, and until they
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: show at the Jaguars or fourth here again, we've talked
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: about they believe in their guys more strongly than our
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: observers do. Uh. It will be a huge tell. Uh.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: If if there's good receivers they think they are, they'll
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: be much better than people think they're gonna be true.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: But but I think when you look at it just
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: on paper there right there for yeah, all right, let's
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: wrap it up with the secondary. Obviously, Corner is very
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: talented for the Jaguars, but without Sean Gibson, who's now
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: with the Texans, the safeties are kind of a tossip
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: only of Ronnie Harrison's starting. That's what do you guys
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: think about the secondary? To wrap up the sup I'm sorry,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I thought Brian was gonna go, um, well, the Jaguars
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: secondary should be the best out of this bunch, purely
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: dependent on are the safeties as good as they believe
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: they are. They think that Harrison is good. Uh, the
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Nickels of the Jaguars, Hayden, Ramsey and boy A should
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: be the best trio of nick or the best trio
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: of corners in the league. That's what they're built on,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the ability to stop the receivers and at the past
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: rush to get home. So Juarsh should be the best.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I just a matter of how Harrison and Jared Wilson
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: play well. And I think that the the the coundar
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the the next best is that group that they've assembled
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: over in in Houston bringing in. They brought Gibson in,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and the year before they they I can't remember a name,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: a damn name to save my life. Today, it's okay,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the kid from here, the Nickel year two years ago. Yeah,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: so they brought you were talking about safety. I'm sorry, no, no, no,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I'm just I've gone on to corners. Uh. They've brought
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you know, They've they've picked some pieces together. Bradley Roby,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I can remember that came in from Denver, and I
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: think I think they're going to have a their group.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Because of their past, Rush doesn't have to be as
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the elite as many in the league do, although Aaron
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Colvin and two Shaun Gibson certainly give them an upgrade,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and Roby does too. When you've got guys like Clowney
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and Watt coming off the edge and causing havoc, uh,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: it makes them that much better. Colvin was a big
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: mystery to them last year. He fell off at the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: end of last year and I was not active, which
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: was a surprise to them because they thought he would
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: be a major force. I'll be interested to see how
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Aaron does over there this year. I went back and
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: was looking for names. Cam Wake and Harold Landry are
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the two pass rushers in Tennessee figuring it out now well.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: And with Wake, the question is can he still be
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: what he had been Achilles And he was very good
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: for Miami last year, even an advanced age, But Harold
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Landry supposed to be a guy steps up. It canna
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: be an interesting division race this year because I don't
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: think you can put your finger. I think it's easy
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: for the national folks to put their finger on the Colts,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: but then when you look deeper, you see that the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: jack should have beaten the Colts twice and they were
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: in the last place in the division, right if it
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't for a fumble, I was shot green at the
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: twenty one yard line. They at least sent it to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: overtime and then they shut him out here with the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: first time in in um Andrew Luck's career. So the division,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: he's a whole lot closer than people think. Well, I
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: think it's it's the one division in the NFL that
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't be surprised if any, if any of the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: four teams won, And I think perhaps because the Jaguars
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: are five and eleven last year, it's not perceived that
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: way nationally. Thank people within the division look at and
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: say this is going to be tight. All right, We'll
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  Speaker 1: it's been an exciting bunch of emails, I'm sure this week.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's been all Talvin all the time, as you
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: would expect. And uh, well we'll get to the first email, which,
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• 32:51
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• 32:54
  Speaker 1: about the top of the show, with the Instagram post
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, he lost a lot of the empathy the
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• 33:07
  Speaker 1: he was aggravated with their frustration. They're gonna support, but
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: there's also going to be an underlying of don't strike
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  Speaker 1: out at us, uh, because we're emotional over this. So
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: again I can't asize enough that the fan reaction to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: this is not the main story, but it's the story
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: we have to talk about because we don't know what's
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: going on in talent Um. I would think right now,
• 33:34
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  Speaker 1: the more frustrated people will become account I think he
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• 33:46
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen knows where his locker is, what are the
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  Speaker 1: little thrown by the interrottle, a little take it off
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: to be honest, and yet you sent it to me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that that's how they're going to start it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: They made clear last week they want Josh Allen and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: this is their organizational philosophy. They bring in versatile rookies
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: and versatile players. They want them to be good at
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  Speaker 1: one thing. First. I think people tend to forget that
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  Speaker 1: it's not Madden and it just because a guy has
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  Speaker 1: a ninety five on Madden and can play linebacker and
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  Speaker 1: defensive end. There's still a little bit of a learning
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  Speaker 1: process as you get into the NFL. UH, you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to overload. They did it with Denard a few
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  Speaker 1: years back. If you remember, you know, the the weapon thing.
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  Speaker 1: He was playing nineteen different positions and he wasn't good
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  Speaker 1: at any of them until he finally focused on one
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  Speaker 1: and then he was okay. I don't think they would
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  Speaker 1: to repeat that mistake with players by the end of
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  Speaker 1: the season. If Josh Allen is an absolute monster rush
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  Speaker 1: in the pastor, or he's at least got what they
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: want him to know, I think you could see it
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  Speaker 1: as a strong side. I don't think that's the initial move.
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  Speaker 1: The interesting component here is the addition of dom Capers
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  Speaker 1: to the defensive staff and m For those of you
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: don't know the inventor, the creator of Blitzburg, which became
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the zone blitz to all of a sudden, became popular
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: in every sense around the National Football League um dropping
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: guys into coverage and doing things with guys that generally
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: did one thing really well, either rushed the packer pastor
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  Speaker 1: or play linebacker. So I wouldn't be surprised if there
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't a wrinkle for him in some way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 1: But I got the strong sense that he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a pass rusher because going forward is what he
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: does best. That's what you drafted him for. And again
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: people allowing me from people saying, why don't the Jaguars
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: do the wrinkles that the Patriots do? Or you know, well,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: why don't they You try trickery on defense and ls schemes.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Tricky schemes aren't always the answer. There are many many
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: teams that don't do it. There's some coordinators that like
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: to do it. Wade Phillips loves to do it. Bill
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Belichick loves to do Those are great defensive coaches. They're
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: also made great defensive coaches who believe in, let's let
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: our guys play fast and know what they're doing. I
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: expect the Jaguars to continue leaning that way, but the
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Don Caper's element should bring a wrinkle of at least
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: some new wrinkles as it well. They'll have a package
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: for him that includes some things, but for the most part,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: going forward is is while you drafted him, all right,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with Adam from Jacksonville. Would I
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: be too far far out on a limit? I thought
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: that Myles jack Will played better at week sidelinebacker than Telton. Well,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're very far out in that. I
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: think Miles could clearly do it, and he could clearly
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  Speaker 1: do it at a high level. I think there's a
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: couple of things that play there. Miles, justas going into
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: his fourth year, he's already been He had a rookie
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: year where he played strong a little bit and then
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: took over for uh Paul listening scot first year all right, um,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the second year he changed positions. The third year he
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: went full time. So he's already had three different kind
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: of role. Do you want to move him one it's more?
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: And do you want to shake up? Moving Miles would
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: mean moving Miles and then you would have a new
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: metal linebacker, and then you would have maybe a new
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: strong side. Do you want to change everything or just
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: change one thing over on the week side? So I
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: think Miles could do it. I don't know if that's
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: necessarily the move they'll want to make for continuity's sake
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: and for Miles to say, well, to answer his question,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: you know, could Miles be a better week side linebacker
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: against the run for sure, and he has good instincts
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: for the ball. What set Telvin apart was he had
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: that rare sense of being in the right place at
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the right time. Yeah, and I think Miles has a
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: little bit of that and he does. I think a
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: week I think you would maybe see more of that,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: you know, freedom come out. He has more bulk and
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: more strength at the point of attack, so he might
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: be better in the in that than Televinia. That's what's
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: so intriguing. There's so many questions. You get a linebacker
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: where they all sort of make sense. You know, hey,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: would you move A Ryan here? Would you play Josh
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Allen over here? Could you move Miles? They all make
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: sense because they all have that versatility. I don't expect
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: them to tell us what they're doing, uh a, because
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: why would they and be I don't know that you
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: necessarily know exactly what they're gonna do. The Jake Ryan
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: thing is intriguing to me because he's got some versatility.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: He gives them some flexibility. But with the A C
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: L you may not see him on the field or
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: in O T A S, so you don't get him
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: on in training camps, So will that limit what they
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: can do with him? And you know, lost in all
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: this seemingly is Leon Jacobs is the strong side backer
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: in his growth. People remember the long touchdown run in
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Nashville and him trying to get Henry down and unable
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: to do it and make they dismiss him. Um, But
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: he had moments last year where he flashed as a
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: guy who had all kinds of developmental ability. So you know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: he could set in on the strong side over there
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and you could pop Jake Ryan in the middle if
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that's what he does and move miles around. They do
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: have some some flexibility, some options, especially if Quincy Williams
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: can find a role for himself. With how many guys
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: they brought in, they definitely have options, that's for sure.
• 40:07
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's start off top tweets with a guy
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: who has definitely stepped up the past few weeks. That's
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Jaguar's wide receiver D D. Westbrook. Spent Mother's Day at
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: the hospital. Couldn't spend Mother's Day with his own moms,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: who went and bought flowers, filled up his entire trunk
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: with a bouquet of roses and delivered it to new
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: moms who had just delivered babies on Mother's Day. Not
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: only that, went to Salvation Army last week, served food
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and brought a barber to give free haircuts. Also went
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: to London and participated in a middle school flag football tournament.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: You know, he's really grown up from his rookie season.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: You know, he came in with some baggage and he
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: was a bit of a pain in the blood as
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: a rookie for a lot of folks. But last year
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: he exploded and this year obviously he gets it. Coming
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: into year three, now he's he's ready to be a leader.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: And a problem with d Maybe it was a youth thing.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe he uh clearly works at it, clearly wants to
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: be good. And this is a big year form because
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: they believe that he's gonna have a breakout seats. But
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: this way, when you would go to talk to him
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: as a rookie, he kind of had a sneer on
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: his face. Last year, he sort of accepted the fact
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: that he was going to have to talk. Especially after
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Mark Kisley went down, he realized that this is willing
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: to do it. He was willing to do it. So
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: we'll see how he grows in the locker room, because
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: clearly off the field he's become a leader. All right,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Mike k a reporter for the Philadelphia Eagles,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: who took a picture of the locker room. Eagles left
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: tackle Jason Peters has a frame jersey from Unique and
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: gock Way at his locker seems like a pretty killer
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: endorsement by a legend. So just sitting there, reason killer again,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: what I was like? That was cool in the eighties? Right?
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: You say killer? Not a lot, but I'll read it
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: off a tweet and Ben hasn't high school. Everything everything
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: was killer I wouldn't. I definitely don't phrase it. I wouldn't.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past Unique to send it to
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: him before the Jags played the Eagles to the London
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: kind of a here's what you gotta use too, boy,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: you might want hang this on your wall. No, it
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: does know you the respect that Unique hats around the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: late I'm kidding the killer did. But yeah, all right,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with something we saw in Good
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Morning Football this morning. There was a segment about what
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: team will turn heads In two thousand nineteen, Peter Schreeger
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: picked the Jaguars. Mayor of Jacksonell Lenny Curry. I'm in
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the other room getting ready, and Molly, his daughter, is
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: going Lenny. Peter has a Jags hat on, and not
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: just a Jags had. He had the draft hat, which
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: was sort of a takeoff of the city flag. Right.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I like the draft hat I did. I thought that
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: did well this year. It was bright, I like right now.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Moral of the story is they didn't say that they'd
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: be good. They said they would definitely turn heads and
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: there'll be storylines to follow. Well, and that's he pointed
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: to the drama. I heard it too. You know. He
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: pointed to the Telvin drama. He pointed to the addition
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: of Nick Foles and what that does. There are lots
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: of things to talk about when it comes to the Jaguars.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: And by the way, there are enough players in here
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: who will tell you want to talk about uh, Jayleet Ramsey,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you can goth Way come to mind. Leonard for net
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: is another storyline. So um, I think it's a fair
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: expression to say that the Jaguars are a bit of
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: a mystery. Um. And it will bear watching all season long.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: It is. And here's the last thing. I'm Talvin. I
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: said that. It's not that he's not going to be missed,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: but there are there are many, many, many other positions
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: right now where if they were losing a guy, I
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: would be more concerned. It's look, it's a game of replacement,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and you talked about the contract earlier, and you're supposed
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to be able to replace that's not a core vital
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: oh my goodness. Position. And he's five this year and
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: ten five next year and eleven the year after. He's
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: long term money out on the cap for them, So
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: you're right, they wouldn't be able to keep going forward
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: with the weak side linebacker playing at that big number.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: So his long term future in Jack's Bill was going
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: to be a question mark based on the contract that
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: he had signed it. By the way, he also restructured
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: after the contract would have been a question this year. Yes,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: and he also restructured at pushing money out, So his
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: contract was one of those tricky ones they were going
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: to have to look at, and him now not being
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: a factor in that gives them some flexibility if he's
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: not going to be here, which again he says, we
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: don't know for sure. Um, that flexibility is a bit
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: of a bonus for a team that's up against it. Yeah,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: except that if it could come back next year, so
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: it could troll forward, which again it's topic. Moral of
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: the story is, we have a lot to talk about
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars have an opportunity to turn heads. That's
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: all we have for this week's Jaguars Drive Time. Stay
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: tune next week for the start of O t as
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the boys are back on the field.