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Shawn Ryan Relives Navy SEAL Hell Week + Explains Why He Feels Misled By Politicians | Bussin’ · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 1: trade pickings. Oh, this is, this is about right now.
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  Speaker 1: You got to trade pickings. Yeah, right now.
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  Speaker 2: Did he not play well yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: He ran off the field the second that the game ended.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that. He had two catches.
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  Speaker 1: What's that?
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  Speaker 2: He only had two catches.
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  Speaker 3: He was very frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: Greasy wheel gets the grease, man.
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  Speaker 2: You got to throw the ball to Pickens.
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  Speaker 1: Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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  Speaker 7: The ball was kicked. And it was not fully through
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  Speaker 7: the uprights yet. And he was already running back to
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  Speaker 7: the tunnel.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that clip. You do got to feed Pickens.
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  Speaker 1: Got to feed him.
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  Speaker 2: You got to feed him or he's just going to
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  Speaker 2: shut down. That's kind of been his MO.
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  Speaker 1: 100%. You can't have a mad wide receiver out there.
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  Speaker 1: Got to get it done. Next weekend's matchups look incredible
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  Speaker 1: on paper. Hopefully it lives up to the hype boys.
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  Speaker 1: This comes from Steven. He's talking about college football week
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  Speaker 1: 10 taking place right now. Maybe the greatest college football
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  Speaker 1: slate that's ever been put in front of us going
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  Speaker 1: into this weekend. And here's what I have to say
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  Speaker 1: about that. There's eight ranked teams in the top 25
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  Speaker 1: for the SEC. All of them play each other, which
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  Speaker 1: means four teams teams in the top 25 at least
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  Speaker 1: will have a loss after this week. This will live
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  Speaker 1: up to the hype. Because at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: whoever wins these games, it's going to be incredible. And
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  Speaker 1: the people who lose, it might be dire for college
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  Speaker 1: football playoff wants and needs.
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  Speaker 2: You see one right there. I told you earlier, just
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  Speaker 2: keep a little circle around it. Texas going out to Missouri.
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  Speaker 1: Texas going out to Missouri. I don't disagree, dude. Because
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  Speaker 1: it's like they're both the most inconsistent teams I've seen
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  Speaker 1: in a while.
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  Speaker 2: You think Mizzou's as inconsistent as Texas?
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  Speaker 1: What? My most recent memory of them is them versus
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss, and Ole Miss held them to 36 yards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ole Miss dummied them. Ole Miss dummied them.
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  Speaker 1: Texas, a lot of injuries taking place. Arch Manning, which
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  Speaker 1: one are you going to get? Are you going to
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  Speaker 1: rush for 200 yards like you did two weeks ago?
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  Speaker 1: Fumbled around. Who knows what's going to take place?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Jack, is Kentucky going to Neyland?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they will be in Knoxville.
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  Speaker 1: It's a night game.
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  Speaker 8: It's going to be loud. It's a scary one for
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  Speaker 8: both teams.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a big one, bro, for both of
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  Speaker 2: you guys.
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  Speaker 8: This is the first.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Kentucky being eight and us being 16, no
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  Speaker 4: one would have thought this going into the season. But
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  Speaker 4: this is a game to watch, whether you're a fan
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  Speaker 4: of SC ball, Tennessee, Kentucky, whatever.
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  Speaker 8: This is going to be loud.
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  Speaker 4: We need to bring the beer barrel back, which it
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  Speaker 4: was like the trophy we played for years ago. It's
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  Speaker 4: just big, just wooden barrel that the winning team would get.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, very exciting game. Our season is essentially on
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  Speaker 4: the line. Kentucky's momentum.
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  Speaker 2: They're trying to prove that they're for real. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm excited, especially that it's a night game. So
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  Speaker 4: it should be fun. Just got to weaponize Neyland.
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  Speaker 8: Just got to weaponize Neyland.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it'll be weaponized. Yeah. We know about Neyland. It
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  Speaker 2: will be weaponized.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, your two most difficult games left
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  Speaker 1: are this game and LSU, correct?
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  Speaker 6: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: Both at home.
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  Speaker 3: Both at home.
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  Speaker 1: Good place to be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a volunteer, man.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: We will indeed. And then obviously the one I got
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  Speaker 1: my eyes on the most is Georgia and Ole Miss.
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  Speaker 1: Because if Ole Miss wins that game.
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  Speaker 2: For the potential chaos.
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  Speaker 1: Chaos is afoot. Chaos is afoot. If you watch the
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  Speaker 1: college football recap that came out yesterday, buddy, we might
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  Speaker 1: got something for the SEC championship.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, busting a pay being at Miami Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 2: that one right there, all the implications of the line
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  Speaker 2: with that one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Literally, we could have gone to 10 different spots and
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  Speaker 1: we've been the right choice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's how big this weekend is.
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  Speaker 2: The Irish are going to show up, get to reunite
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  Speaker 2: with Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin.
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  Speaker 6: Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: Our sweet Prince Kevin. Cannot wait to see him. Club,
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  Speaker 1: you weren't here during the College Football Recap, but I
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  Speaker 1: was saying that based on what happened last week versus
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  Speaker 1: all of Notre Dame's opponents, if Notre Dame doesn't win
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  Speaker 1: this game, they should not be in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 6: Ooh.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that's a hot take.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if they beat SMU.
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  Speaker 1: SMU's no longer ranked.
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  Speaker 3: I know they're no longer ranked.
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  Speaker 2: Still a quality team.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it depends how bad they'd lose to Miami. Because,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, the BYU game was close. That's a quality loss.
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  Speaker 7: If they lose to Miami and it's a close one-score game,
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  Speaker 7: it's like.
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  Speaker 1: You have two quality losses and no quality wins.
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  Speaker 2: It's tough.
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  Speaker 7: But if they're in the top 13, they're in no
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  Speaker 7: matter what. Because of that new... little wrinkle they have
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  Speaker 7: for this year.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: And like today, Tuesday is when the first college football
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  Speaker 1: bracket will come out. Good call.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 1: No, we'll know exactly what they think about Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 1: If they're smart, they'll put them at like eight or nine, seven, eight, nine.
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  Speaker 1: Cause that would then, if they lose this, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, that makes sense to pull them out. But
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  Speaker 1: if they're seeing that four or five, even if they
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  Speaker 1: lose to a number one, Miami, they're in no matter what.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, it all just depends what the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: country does.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 7: Like it legit depends.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So you go in. Yeah. We talked about
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  Speaker 2: it on the reaction show. If you got one loss
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  Speaker 2: teams in the Big 12 playing for it and then
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  Speaker 2: you got the chaos in the SEC or you're arguing
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  Speaker 2: a few teams in that only have three losses and
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at all the details of a quality resume,
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  Speaker 2: quality wins, quality losses. I could see him missing it.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it all depends on where they get
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  Speaker 2: put in this for CFP rankings. And that's just assuming
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  Speaker 2: that Notre Dame is going to lose this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm playing the game as if they have lost. I like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say it for the locker room. I'll say it
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  Speaker 1: for the locker room who I like that comes out
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday night.
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  Speaker 7: Did you talk about what if Miami loses and then
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  Speaker 7: loses in the ACC championship to Wake Forest?
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  Speaker 1: I think Miami's a four to the two loss category.
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  Speaker 1: They would be in a similar conversation, right? Because at
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  Speaker 1: this point they play Wake Forest. Wake Forest beats them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: who knows?
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  Speaker 2: Who knows?
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  Speaker 1: Who knows? That's why this college football season is the
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  Speaker 1: greatest of all time. Got chaos in the ACC. Chaos
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  Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. The SEC is the number one
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  Speaker 1: leader of chaos right now. And then the Big 12
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  Speaker 1: has got chaos as well. And we just have no
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  Speaker 1: idea where it's going to go.
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  Speaker 2: That's the beauty of it.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get to the Sean Ryan episode, which is incredible,
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  Speaker 1: Spooktober is officially done, fellas. It's officially in the books.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say it. Best Spooktober we've ever had.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy for you.
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  Speaker 1: I love that you reached first for that handshake.
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  Speaker 6: He needed that.
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  Speaker 1: He needed that handshake. I mean, I was called out
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  Speaker 1: last year, months and months and months. There's no winning here.
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  Speaker 1: It's proving a point. Like if I didn't show up
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  Speaker 1: for spooktober, you guys don't win. I just take even
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  Speaker 1: harder for now.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys, the spooktober was better because I
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  Speaker 1: did a better job at spooktober. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed this spooktober. I don't think I'd put it
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  Speaker 2: as my number one. Like my number one. Like we're
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  Speaker 2: all speaking for ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I know where you stand on this spooktober. But boys,
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  Speaker 1: what did you, where'd you guys go out?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I went dressed up as a Fellowship of the Ring.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, bro, that video was all time. All time.
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  Speaker 2: Play it on the screen.
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  Speaker 4: I was really proud of my buddies for all committing
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  Speaker 4: to the bit. We actually did a little bit of
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: a legal activity, and there is Fort Negley Park in Wedgwood, Houston.
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  Speaker 4: It is currently under, I don't think it's renovation. But
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  Speaker 4: it's completely fenced off at the top. We had to
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  Speaker 4: sneak in there. So on top of being able to
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  Speaker 4: film the video with all your buddies, climbing through a
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  Speaker 4: fence on Halloween at the age of.
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  Speaker 3: 30, it felt good.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like we were getting.
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  Speaker 8: Back to some ashevia stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So it was a good time.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed Halloween.
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  Speaker 8: Taylor, to your credit, you killed it.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. That's what I was looking for.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, hey, you crushed Spooktober.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, but yeah. You really did. Well, you did,
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  Speaker 1: you crushed Spooktober.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Jack.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Klump. Thank you, Jared.
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  Speaker 2: What are you upset with me for?
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  Speaker 1: I'm upset with you. You seem upset with me. Why
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  Speaker 1: is my name being looked up? You know what I'm
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  Speaker 1: upset about? You really want to know what I'm upset about?
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  Speaker 1: Three days into Spooktober, you go, so how long are
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  Speaker 1: these decorations sitting there? And I just thought to myself,
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  Speaker 1: this fucking, this guy, dude, we're trying to have a
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  Speaker 1: good time out here. And he's like, it could be distracting.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, all right, let me go around the office
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  Speaker 1: to every single person and ask them if they're being distracted.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're good?
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  Speaker 1: He's a grumpy boy. I was just bringing it up.
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  Speaker 1: You're slowly becoming an old man.
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  Speaker 2: No, I thought you crushed Spooktober.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, dude.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't mind this stuff. I'm just, I'm honestly, I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking about everybody in the shop. Like I know nobody was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I know it wasn't a fool. Like, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we should unanimously do this and have it up all,
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: all October.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: But Spooktober, that's a bit, well, I mean, and you
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: said all October, it came down a week before.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: Not a week before.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Three or four. Some of it came down a week
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: before and there's a breath of fresh air that came
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: into the shop.
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: That's so funny.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: A breath of fresh air.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, we got our house.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: Everybody in the office is like, thank God these things
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: are gone. Might be a lesson to learn.
• 14:14
  Speaker 8: You know, people are going to be upset when you
• 14:16
  Speaker 8: don't try hard enough. And then people are going to
• 14:17
  Speaker 8: be upset when you try too hard.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so.
• 14:19
  Speaker 8: You know, you just got to do what you love.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: Here's the deal, dude. If you spend your whole life
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: trying to please everybody, you'll please nobody. So let's just
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: keep it pushing. You know what that sounds like? What's that?
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Kevin's Natural Food Clean Tape. Clean Tape.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Kevin's Natural Food Clean Tape.
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Kids, also remember, as you get older, you're going to
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: get jaded by life. Try to stay true to your
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: childhood core, man. Have fun no matter what. You're a
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: little distracted during work sometimes. That's okay. Just get the
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: job done, dude. But have fun while you're doing it, fellas.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: And don't be scared to speak up. If you do
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: feel a little uncomfortable, don't be scared to speak up
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: and talk to the big bad bully. And also remember this, dude,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: don't be afraid to speak up, but also look yourself
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: in the mirror and be like, what am I really
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: speaking up about? How big of a deal is it?
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Everybody wants a voice, but like at the end of
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: the day, sometimes people just like the bitch to bitch.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: You know damn are you good bro i'm cooking.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I'm in the kitchen right now dude i'm in the
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: kitchen i just had the best spooktober of my life.
• 15:18
  Speaker 7: How was trick-or-treating guys how was trick-or-treating trick-or-treating.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Was fun we were on um what was it windsor
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: road uh was it windsor nickel nickel lane is the
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: spot the spot we were on the side one we
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: were on like a side one because we were on
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: like the other side of i don't know if it's
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: the golf course Or something over there. We were on
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: the other side.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, on that little.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: But the way Nashville, the way local Nashville does their
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Halloween is just the way to do it. Streets are jumping.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Parents are throwing parties. Like, dude, it's just the best.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: People are having like little haunted houses up. There's music playing.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Everybody's on the streets. Streets are blocked off. It was
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: a good time. And the paper mache, the where the
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: wild things are, shout out to my wife. She absolutely
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: crushed that.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: The costumes were incredible.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She put basically the entire month of October into it.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Nice. They were sick.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: I had to do some things at the end where
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, eh, this wasn't the agreement. Like, oh,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I basically did the costumes now.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: They were sick, though. Just the decorating in general, dude.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: The whole weekend was unreal. We had the Halloween party
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Friday night for all the kids. They had a blast
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: at that. Scott Zilla, she was out there fighting my
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: mother-in-law dressed as an inflatable penguin. She thought it was
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the funniest thing in the world the entire time.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: You're going up to give it a hug and then
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: run away?
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Bunch of the kids, my kids and their friends, they
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: had a sleepover Friday night. And then it was just,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: basketball game. We won our first basketball game of the year.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah. So yeah, incredible spooktober, man. It was a
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: lot of fun. A lot of fun.
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: The party was cool too with the- The gifts this
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: year for the prizes for the kids.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Had to do five of the games.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: It was pretty cool.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Go around.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Challenged them a little. Made them actually earn what they got,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: which was nice.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I have to wait in line, go do the thing.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Wait in line.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I would have loved to have an element of you
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: actually have to win one of them, but I do
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: love the fact that you have to go all five.
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: So I made that joke in line about, oh, wow,
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: you don't even really have to win to get one.
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: JJ wanted everyone to know he did win the balloon one.
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: Again, he's very good at that.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: So he said he earned his, he said. I was like,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: all right. He's like, Brady didn't win.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, shut up.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Be nice. Be nice. I was up there trying to
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: throw the rings and I'm like, come on, throw it
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: a little harder.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Willow was sending those rings all over the place. She
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: was rocketing them, but they were going nowhere near those bottles.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Nowhere.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: But overall, man, incredible time. Incredible.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: It's a good weekend.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: We want to get into Sean Ryan?
• 17:44
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• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Enjoy this interview with Sean Ryan. He's just a man
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: who's pretty much done everything. You guys talked about your wrestling.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Been to Buzz, been in Navy SEAL, done a lot
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: of stuff that probably our brains can't even comprehend. Starts
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: a podcast in 2019. Which is now one of the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: biggest in the world. One of the biggest in the world.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: People would argue that is the biggest one in the world.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: So what do you say? Hey, welcome to Sean Ryan
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: at BuzzFeed The Voice Network. Absolute pleasure to have you on, sir. Um,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: clearly I have, everybody knows like what you're, what you've done,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: what you're about, but I'd love to get a little
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: backstory about buds, about the reason you would want to
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: join the Navy SEALs other, uh, instead of other like
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: different branches of the military. But what, what made you
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: go towards the Navy SEALs?
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Anything else? Uh, nobody else would take me. Just being honest.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: It's like a lot of things in my life, but, uh, Yeah,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: wasn't a very successful athlete, wasn't a very successful student,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: and got into it with my old man. Pretty much
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: told me I wasn't going to pay for college. I said,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I don't give a shit. I'm going to join the military.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: And I had already looked at potentially becoming a SEAL,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: but it kind of started off as Green Beret or
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Ranger or or at the time forced reconnaissance. And I
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: pretty much, you know, I was like, what a buck
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: 30 buck 40.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: In senior high school.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: And, uh, actually I think it was junior year that
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: started and, uh, pretty much got laughed out all of them. Like, yeah,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: we didn't.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: You got, there's a pipeline for this.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Even as a wrestler. Yeah.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Even as a wrestler.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: What is it? What is a pipeline?
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Like, well, you like for the, for the army, uh,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Or the Marines. I think both of them were the same.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Join the infantry, you know, or just join. And then
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: maybe one day you'll get the opportunity. And, you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I was a driven kid. I just didn't really know
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: where to put my drive. I wasn't interested in much.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: And so anyways, the Navy recruiter kind of stuck his
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: head out in the hallway and was like, hey, you know,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: have you ever heard of the SEAL teams? And I
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: was like, no. And so he gave me a pamphlet.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I took the pamphlet home and read it and then
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: was at the public library checking all the books out.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: You know, this is back in the early 2000s, 90s.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: And I went back in and I was like, yeah,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I could just, supposedly these guys are the best ones, right?
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: And I can just go right into it as long
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: as I pass all the tests. And he was like, yeah, well,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a recruiting tool because they have like
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: a 80- five percent dropout rate yeah so everybody you
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: know that doesn't make it fill some either the really
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: shitty jobs in the navy or the ones that you
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: have to be really smart to get and um and
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: there's kind of no in between so that's what they
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: do they you know they take the 85 percent of
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: the people that wash out of buds and then they
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: fill the you know the shortages.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And then you just you you go in because it
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: seems like the you you were having your uh you
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: know kind of like proving your old man wrong since
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: he wasn't going to play for college or since he
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to pay for college yeah you just get
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: into the what was the wake-up call like when you
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: first started to join the military like were you getting
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: your dick kicked in from the get-go or does that
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: not happen until you start getting higher and higher and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: obviously things get tougher yeah like what like how you
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: just say okay i want to join the navy seals
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: do you get on a bus that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Day No, you have to, I mean, you have to
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: get like whatever score in the ASVAB, which isn't hard.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: And you have to pass a PT test, which isn't
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: really that hard. The swim gets a lot of people,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: but it's like, I think it was a mile and
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: a half run and like pull-ups, push-ups, sit-ups. And then
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I believe it was like a 500 meter swim. But
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: so you do that. And then basically the pipeline is
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: you go to boot camp. which is like, I don't know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: nine weeks. And then you go to the, they give
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: you those job descriptions. You know what I'm talking about?
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: That I was just the short, you pick one of those,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: then you go to that school. And then after you
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: finish that school, then you go to buds. And then
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: if you've, quit or fail Buds, then you go back
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: to the school that they trained you. Not the school,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: but you fill that job description.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: What was your first experience like in Buds? And I
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: love that Sean Ryan, he's probably got a bunch of
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: audience tuning in from Sean Ryan's world. He's like, these
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: guys are asking about how Buds training works. They're asking
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: the most basic questions in the world. It's like, yeah,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: this is our show and this is what we want
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: to know. We're football guys right now.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: The Buds and the Hell Week is something that every
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: casual gen pop person, when they think of the Navy SEALs,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: they think of that hellish week. Is it as bad
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: as they say it is?
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. Right there. Check the box. What's one thing
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: about Hell Weekend Buds that you maybe overestimated? Oh, you think, oh,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: this will probably be easier. Maybe you're a great swimmer
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: or this part. Is it just the sleep deprivation?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: It's really just showing up there. You don't really get
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: it until you get to Buds. I remember I did
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: the screen test. I don't even know if it was
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the real screen test, but this was... this guy comes
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: out and he's like, all right, he's all hung over
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: and shit. And he's like, all right, we're going to,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: we're going to run the screen test. And, um, I
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: remember him just like, he smelled like booze. You can
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: tell he tied one on it. He's like looking around.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: It was like, see that tree over there? Like, yeah,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: everybody's all about a bed. He's like, yeah, run around
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: that tree as fast as you can to get back here.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: This is just screen test. Oh shit. We're like, all right.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: But, No, we got to Bud's and, or I got
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: to Bud's and it's, I mean, it's tough and there's
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: a lot there, like it's tough, you know, and there's
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: a lot, like it's, it's just balls to the wall
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: the whole time. But I think for me, the biggest
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: thing was, like I said, I will, I'm not a,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not a big dude, you know, and you get there,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: you get to Bud's and I'm like 18 years old
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: and there's like golden glove boxers and, olympic wrestlers and
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: olympic water polo players and football players out of the
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: academy and you're i'm like maybe a buck 45 you
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: know what i mean at that point now i'm looking
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: at these and you got other people that are transferring
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: them from marine reconnaissance units and other special ops uh
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: outfits are coming to buds because they want to transfer
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: in and they want to become a seal and you're
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: just like 18 years old looking at these men you
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: know and at who are huge, you know, cut, ripped, jacked.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Some of them have been to war. Some of them
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: have played, you know, at the top level at their,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, college level, collegiate level, you know, sports. And
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I'm like, holy shit. Like, what am I doing here?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't even have my fucking man card yet.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: And then you see them start quitting. You know, because
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: you show up as the class before you is going
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: through Hell Week and stuff, at least I did. And
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: you see, you hear about, you know, oh, this dude
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: just came from, you know, the Naval Academy. He was a,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: you know, football player. This guy transferred in for Marine
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Reconnaissance Unit. He's already been to war. He quit. And
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: you're like, what am I going to do? Like, holy shit,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: what am I doing here? You know, you don't, it's
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: imposter syndrome immediately. Yeah, this isn't high school wrestling anymore.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: And so I think that was like the biggest wake
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: up call for me. And then people just start disappearing
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: in your own class. You're like, holy shit. Like that
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: dude quit. Like when did he quit?
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: What was so, you know, what got him? But you
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: don't really have time to think about that shit. And
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: so it was a big, a big wake up call
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: for me. It was, it was, it was the biggest
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: hurdle for me to get over mentally was seeing at
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: the people of that caliber not make it through drop out.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: And some of them do make it through. I'm not
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: saying everybody, like all the type quits, but, but a
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: lot of them don't. And then you look around and
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: it's never the people that you expect, you know, to
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: make it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Do you remember the closest point you were to quitting
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: during hell week? Or did you ever even reach that point?
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: No.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. I reached that point. Um, it was
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: in hell week. And, uh, you know, the thing that
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: got me is the cold, like the, The beatings and
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: the PT and like the endless just running, running, running.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: That shit all sucked. But the cold for me, it
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: was like I said, I'm a little guy and that
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: like zero body fat at that time. So the cold
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: really got me and the chafing. Like that's the thing
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: you never hear about is the chafing.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: God, the chafing.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: And so....
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Have you not chafed? No, I've chafed, but I'm thinking
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the way you said it is like you were also
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: there with them. I'm remembering some old times where.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I'm just wearing the Hanes cotton underwear playing sports. I'm
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: just like, oh man. You catch a bad chafe, man.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: That's going to ruin your week. I'm like, hell week,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: the chafing, hell yeah.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: They would, yeah, it was just, you're constantly, you're just,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: it was like hypothermia over and over and over and
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: over again. And it got to the point where I
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: would look forward to getting it because I would numb out.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: And I'd be like, well, maybe if I can stop
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: myself from shivering, my body will lose temperature quicker and
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I can go into that numb state. So I would
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: just sit there in the water, freezing my ass off, shivering.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: The only thing I would concentrate on is just try
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: to make your body stop shaking so the shit sets
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: in quicker. So you just have that, it's not euphoric,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: but you just zone out. You're like, all right, well,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: here we are.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: You officially calloused the situation.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Freezing my ass. And I didn't want to go in again.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: And I was like, my shit, my junk was all
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: chafed up. And cause they'll have you take sand. Like
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: this is the shit you don't see that you might
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: have a, they'll have that you wear tri shorts, you know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: like spandex shorts underneath there. And they'll have you take
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: like a clump of sand and like lift, pull your
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: shorts out and pour sand down on your junk. And
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: then they'll have you run like 12 miles. And so
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: your shit is like rubbed raw. rubbed raw and then
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: they will they will let and then they'll pull you
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: out of miles well i mean whatever it is you're
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: just running everywhere but they'll be like i feel like
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: just even a hundred yards we're gonna run down to
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: the elephant cages at that time it was the elephant
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: cages and you'd be you know so your chest your
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: armpit everything's chafed but down here like they would yeah
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: they would be like all right pick up a clump
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: of sand dump it down your shorts and verify that
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: you did it they'd watch you do it and um
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: and then so you know you're you're, you're done. And
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: so then they would let you dry out and you
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: might take your tri shorts off for a little bit.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: And they know that like your camis are going to
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: crust to your chafing, you know, the open wounds and
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: then they'll have you run again and it'll rip it
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: off and then they'll put you in the salt water.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: It feels like somebody who's dumping hydrochloric acid on your junk. So, yeah.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: So anyways, that stuff. got to me so it really.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Is yeah so that stuff it almost means you ring
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the bell how much how much of it is you're
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: motivated to win and beat everybody versus like i'm just
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: not gonna quit before this next guy yeah i don't.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Know i think it's i think it's you that shit
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: goes out the window man like after about the first
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: that shit goes out the window like you're it's never
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: like For me, it was never inner competition. Like, well,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: if that dude can make it, I can make it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Because all the people that I thought were going to
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: make it that I was looking up to, like, well, shit,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: that dude's been... He's already been to combat. You know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: that dude was like... Look at him. He looks like
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: a fucking Greek god. Yeah.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: And they would quit, and I'd be like, oh, shit. Like,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: that dude's done? So you, like, lose that immediately. Like,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: pretty quick.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: But for me, it became... it got to the point
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: in hell week where I didn't give a shit about
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: being a seal. I was like, whatever, dude, I don't
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: even care about this shit anymore. I just don't want
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: to call my dad, you know, and tell my dad
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: that I quit.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Tell me it was right.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I didn't, I didn't, I was like, nah, that I've
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: messed up enough things in life. I'd already at 18.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing, I'm not doing that. And I remember
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: seeing a class. I can't remember if it was before
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: me or after me. I can't remember when I saw it.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: It might've been my class, but, uh, they were making, uh,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: candidates that had quit call their dad on father's day
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: and tell them that they quit i know right that's
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: like some traumatic shit that is crazy on father's day
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: happy father's day dad i quit oh just.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Silence on the other line they hang up i know
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: right that'd be awful how uh how soon after do
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: you go from hell week to officially like touring doing
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: like missions and everything like that.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Years.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: Years.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: So what, what is the process that you, you get
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: through hell week, which basically is like, Hey, you've made
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: it into the ability to be a seal now.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: And then you have to, how long is the process
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: before like graduation takes place? I mean, hell.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: So hell week is only like, I think it's a
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: third week, you know? So you do hell week and
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: that's phase one. And then you do phase two, which
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: is diving. Then you do phase three, which is land
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: warfare and demolition.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Is everything after way easier?
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: No. Okay.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: So it just continues to be hard.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: It's more, yeah, it continues. I mean, because that's just,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: once you get over, you're just going to get your
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: ass beat every day. Then you add learning dive physics
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: and dive medicine and like math with demolition and cutting
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: charges and, and all that kind of shit and safety violations.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: And so phase one is actually like the easiest, you know, and, um,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: minus hell week but then you get into phase two
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: it's like they don't let up but now you have
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: to learn like actually learn shit and um so you
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: get through buds graduate buds then you go to sqt
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: which is seal qualification training which is kind of where
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: they just kind of get you on the same page
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: that you at least know the lingo down when you
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: show up to a seal team then you show up
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: to a seal team then you have a two-year cycle
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: um of training like lamb warfare or going to the co-house, diving, jumping,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: like all that shit. That's a two-year cycle. And then
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: you deploy. So you're looking at, what, two and a half,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: three years before you go out the door.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: And you mentioned in that point, like you're put on
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: a SEAL team. And there's obviously that SEAL Team 6
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: is the one that's like not supposed to exist, but
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: we all acknowledge it exists. Yeah, it's pretty out there now. Yeah,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: it's pretty out there. But at the time this SEAL
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: team six, was it talked about when you're in there?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Like when you're going and you're like, okay, today's the
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: day you're going to be assigned, assigned a team essentially.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then is there ever, like, do you have
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: a conversation with these other guys that are in the
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: same class as you? Like, Hey, what about the one
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: that no one talks about? Is that, does that ever
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: take place? Yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: But I mean, when I was, when I was in,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: it wasn't really, it wasn't near as out there as
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: what it is today.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Much more.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like a lot of the, A lot of the
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: instructors that were at BUDS and that were at SQT,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: and especially when you get to the SEAL team and
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: you're going through CQB, which is like going through the KILHAS,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: those guys are all from SIX or DEV group. But
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't really kind of start figuring out what it
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: was until I showed up to the SEAL team.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: What was DEV? You said either part of the SEAL
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: team SIX or DEV?
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's development group.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Got you.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Okay. When you guys are, like when you have the
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: squad and obviously you, whatever you watch and learn about,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: like this brotherhood of your SEAL team unit, when you
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: guys are getting deployed to go on like your first mission,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: is like the group and the team pretty much like
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: hungry for the first mission?
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: You guys are good. Then we just need to get
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the call. We got to get out there.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, especially in my time, because 9-11 happened right
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: before I went to Bud's. So- By the time I
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: showed up to the SEAL team, like very few people
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: had already gone to combat and there was, you know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: a long stretch of peacetime from the Vietnam war to, um,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: you know, to, to the global war on terrorism, minus
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: like a couple of things, like a thing in Panama, Somalia, um, Escobar,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: a couple of guys are involved in that, but, but
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: in general, like you had. an entire body of seals
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: that have really zero combat experience, but very senior people
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: in the community. And so everybody was hungry, you know, everybody,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, you remember back then we were very like, well,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know how old you guys were, but we
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: were united, you know, everybody was on the same sheet
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: of music. Everybody wanted to get retribution, you know, for
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: nine 11. And, um, and so, and you had these
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: guys that had had an entire career, uh, you know,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: of sitting on their ass in Europe, doing booze and
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: chasing women, whatever it is, you know what I mean?
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Doing training with, with, uh, other foreign units, but nothing,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: nothing like real, you know, maybe like a ship boarding
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: here or there. And so when that kicked off, everybody
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: was like really hungry, you know, to, to, to go
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: get it done.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: When, when we did, was your first mission, what year
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: was that?
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Uh, first mission was, uh, Nothing spectacular, but it was, um, two,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: it was either 2003 or two end of 2003 or
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: early 2004. And, uh, actually got deployed to, to, I
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: was doing some stuff in Panama with, um, we're just
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: doing training with the Panamanian special forces guys and, uh,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: and some green berets. And then a bunch of shit
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: went down in Haiti. And so they, we went to Cuba,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: we went to Guantanamo Bay and started flying missions over
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: to Haiti and, uh, w which was nothing spectacular, but
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: it was cool at the time. Cause I was like
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: the first guy in my buds class to actually go
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: do something real. And, um, but that's when, uh, Aristide,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: which was the president got, he got yanked out. Wasn't me, uh,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: or my guys, but he got yanked out and, uh,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: kind of sought refuge in the U S I don't know,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: it was probably dev group or delta that yanked him
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: um but we would just we were going haiti was
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: up in arms so we were flying in and getting
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: on the ground and like doing reconnaissance type shit like
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: basically like hey this is what you know these are
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: how all these other cities are doing people breaking out
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: of prison setting cars on fire shit like that yeah
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: and then and then i went to europe which really
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: pissed me off why why did that piss you off
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Because the war was going on in Afghanistan and Iraq
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: and I was sitting in Europe.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Hey, that's a fair reason to be pissed off. You
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: do all that training. It's like send me to the spot.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I was upset, man.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I was pretty upset.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: How long were you in Europe? And did you– being
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: in the position you were as a Navy SEAL at
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: that point, like you're essentially molded to do what you're told.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: You're supposed to do whatever you can for your country.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: You get sent to Europe. Are you in a position–
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: to go and be frustrated with somebody a senior to you,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: or does that never happen?
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I would voice frustration. Maybe it wasn't the best thing,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: but a lot of something that kind of pissed me off,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: it would still piss me off to this day, is
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: there was this, you got to earn your space on
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: the battlefield. You got to put your time in to
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: get over there. And that came from generations of SEALs
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: who hadn't done shit Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: And in my head, I'm like, I already did that.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Like I volunteered to fucking come here and go fight
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: for this fucking country. And there's a fight going on.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I don't want to like, I already earned my way
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: into the fight.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: And I still see it that way.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Tenure doesn't beat talent.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: We went through the thing.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I got accepted. I got, I got my trident. I'm
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: on a SEAL team and I'm here to fucking do
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: one job. And I want to do that. You know,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I don't want to like, sit on my ass in
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Europe and drink beer and go train with like the comps,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: the German comp swimmers and go, you know, set up
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: evacuation routes for the Olympic athletes in Athens in 2004.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: I just had zero interest in doing that. And I
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: was pissed. And and so, yeah, there there was that
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: kind of like you got to earn your way in,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: you know, and then as time went on and the
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: war developed, you know, guys were showing up and they
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: wouldn't even do the two-year cycle and they're right over there,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: you know? And then the second, the second, my second platoon,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: like each cycle they call a platoon. Then we went
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: to Afghanistan and Iraq and we got to do it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: What was your experience like in Afghanistan and Iraq? You
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: finally get what you wanted. Was it what you thought
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: it would be? No, not at all.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, when we went to Afghanistan, it was, Are
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: you familiar with the lone survivor? Yes. Red Wings, that
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: whole incident. So we were the platoon that relieved them.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: So at that particular moment in time, that was the
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: biggest loss in SEAL team history, was June 28th, 2005.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: And you were part of the team that brought them back?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: No. That whole thing happened. And then we went and
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: relieved them because they had taken so many casualties, you know.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: And so we went in there and there was like
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: no turnover, like zero turnover. And everybody was, missions were
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: pretty much shut down at the time. So now we
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: finally get, and everybody wants vengeance, you know. And we
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: get there and we're like not doing shit. We didn't
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: do much at all. And I'm like, dude, we got
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: all the way here. Our boys just got killed. It
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: was the biggest loss in SEAL Team history. And we, like,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: aren't doing shit about it. And then we went south
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: to Kandahar and worked with the Canadian Special Forces. But
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: it was just op after op after op. We'd get ready.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: We'd be going after somebody. We'd be sitting on the
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: helo pad waiting for the helos to come in. And
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: then I'd get kanked. And then I'd get kanked. And
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: then we did like a couple ones where we brought
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: some prisoners back and did some interrogations. Um, but it
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: was like pretty low level stuff. And, um, and then
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: they actually, I don't know exactly what happened cause I
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: was so junior, but there was a big pissing match
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: between what they call the CJ soda and the, and
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: the seal teams at the time. And the seal teams
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: left Afghanistan just left. And so, At that point in time,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm, I'm done, dude. Like I, I
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: put in, I gave this everything I had to go
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: do the job and I'm not able to do it.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: And so it's, it's, it's just time for me to
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: try something else. And so I volunteered, I said, Hey,
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I will, uh, I don't want to go home. This
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: is like, no matter what, this is it for me,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: but I will, I would like to finish the deployment.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: So if the sister to platoon needs me in Iraq,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I would love to like finish my tour. just jump
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: in with them and i'll just do whatever they need
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: and they were like they sent me over and so
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: we went in i went into baghdad and jumped in
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: with them and then it got and then it got
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: real and um we we did the thing yeah so.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: You yeah you got what you wanted at the time
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: yeah i mean it was enough to like make me
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: want to hope it's like okay yeah now we're doing
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: we were killing um We were killing terrorists that were
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: setting bombs on, setting IEDs, roadside bombs on the side
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: of the road and killing.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Like conventional guys that were doing main supply routes. And
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: they would just get bombed in the same place, same time,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: every day. And so they farmed us out, right? A
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: badass OIC, which is officer in charge. And he just
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: started getting in touch with these conventional units and we would,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: in bed with them, train them up. This is how
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: you build a sniper hide, do them, teach them shooting,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: teach them infiltration, teach them target package, teach them everything.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: And then, uh, we will go out with them as,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: as like kind of a test and, and like every
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: single time we went out, no matter where we went,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: we had them in 24, like we would, we would,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: we would set up and then kill the bad guys
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: within 24 hours. So being out there.
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: Jesus.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I have a dumb question. You familiar with terminal list, Jack?
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: At what point, if there is a point when you're
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: on the teams or where it could be post teams
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: could be during teams. At what point are there questions
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: that raising your, that raising your mind that somebody else
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: could be calling shots where there could be like a,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: an inside thing happening to where you say you're on
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: an assignment and the assignment changes. And some of the
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: boys just start talking. Cause I'm a big terminalist fan,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Jack Carr stuff that I've watched all the series. I
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: fucking love it. I just finished season two, but all
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: those boys are so tight. The brotherhood's happening. They go
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: off on their way afterwards and they're just realizing that
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: strings are being pulled from different angles compared to what
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: they thought the teams were when they were in the team.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Obviously this is entertainment. Cause I don't know how much
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: is real that Jack Carr's writing and you know, what's
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: like the Hollywood stuff, but does that, would that take
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: place with your guys's unit ever?
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, but you don't, I mean, I was very junior,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? In the team, I had
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: no leadership, uh, when I was at the SEAL team.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: I didn't start realizing that shit was going on until, uh,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: into my career contract at CIA. And that's kind of
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: when I started to realize like, okay, this is a
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: lot more political and there are a lot more players
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: in this game than selling something to the higher ups
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: to go do or not.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I bet that had to have been a crazy realization
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: when that's happening.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I'm still realizing it. You think you have a full picture,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: then it really shows afterwards when you kind of see
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: how everything's connected.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: The, um, do you, I know. And it's like, you
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: want to ask all the questions, but like, you don't
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: know what question you're allowed to ask. Cause you're like, what,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: what was the moment you realized that, uh, when did
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you become suspicious of the U.S. government? Like, was there
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: a difference? You said, ask anything.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Right, is that crazy?
• 47:40
  Speaker 10: I think.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Are we safe? Are we safe right now? Yeah, I
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: He said, you can ask anything. And it's like, this
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: is psychology, right? We get to know each other, tell
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: us about buds, stand in the crotch. What's up with
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the government, man?
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: But, yeah. I think, for me.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: I really started, I mean, I got a little suspicious
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: when I was contracting, but I got really suspicious around
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Afghan withdrawal time is what I really started getting, like,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: what is going on?
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, after- What year is this?
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: I think, was that 23?
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so this is- But I would say, like,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: it got put on my radar after the bin Laden raid.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Because after- they killed UBL. It was, it was like,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: what are we doing here still? And I started seeing,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I'll go back actually. So, man, I can't remember all
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: the years, but I remember one year I was in this,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: in Southern Afghanistan, Helmand province, and like this little safe
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: house with just a couple other people and the safe
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: house got hit. And the Marines were down there and
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: this was supposed to be like the second biggest offensive
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: push since Fallujah. And Obama was the president. And I
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: remember the the rules of engagement came out and it
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: was for these Marines that were down there, like Fallujah
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: was a bloodbath.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: And can you, I'm sorry, I sound so ignorant. Can
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you give me just a quick Fallujah? What was Fallujah?
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: Fallujah was like a safe haven for terrorists. Okay. And
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: it was like all of them were congregating there and
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: the Marines took the brunt of that. They were, they
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: were supposed to flush out everybody. And it, the rules
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: of engagement in Fallujah were basically like, if you are
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: a fighting age male and you are here after this date,
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: we're going to kill you. And I mean, it was
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: just like that, like the stories that have come out
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: of that, um, that battle are, Like some of the
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: wildest shit I've ever heard in my life. Like you
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: think seals have bad-ass stories, like the infantry Marines that
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: were there, like doing that. And there were seals attached
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: and stuff, but like with the equipment these guys had
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: and like the casualties that they saw, it's like out
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: of this world, like the craziest, goriest shit you can
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: imagine like happened there. And so this is getting ready
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: to happen again. right in a place called Marja in
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Helmand Province. And I remember the ROEs came out and
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: it was, if you're shot at by a terrorist and
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: he drops his gun, you're not supposed to shoot back.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Not for us, but for, because we fall under like
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: different rules and shit, but for- The Navy SEALs fall
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: under different- Well, this was at, I was a contractor
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: for CIA at the time. So we were a lot
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: more under the radar. And but I remember hearing that
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: come out and I was like, man, talking about chopping
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: the legs out of your guys. Like, how are they
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: supposed to fight a war when they're worried they're going
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: to go to prison if they shoot back at some?
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: How do you like what if you shoot somebody and
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: you hit them and they drop their weapon? Like, does
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: that look like they drop their weapon? Like, it's a
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: fucking ridiculous. You know what I mean? It's like you
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: can't you cannot win a war like this. And it
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: just pissed me off like to no end. And the
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: things like that started coming out and that was maybe 2000,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: maybe 11 or 12, I think. And, you know, it
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: was just like, what, what is, what is, what are
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: we doing here? Like, why, why are we even, if
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: this is, what is this shit? This is insanity. You cannot,
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: this isn't how you fight a war. And, um, And also, like,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: what are we even doing here anyways? We got bin Laden.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: What are we doing here? Bringing democracy to people that
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: don't have electricity and running water? Yeah, that's going to
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: fucking work.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Like, okay.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: You know? And so that's when the seed was kind
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: of planted, was that, you know, seeing things like that.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: And yeah.
• 52:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Do you think there was any, like, around that time,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: internet's getting bigger, people are seeing more things than they've
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: ever saw in the world. Do you think there's a
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: reason why they got so, they were so constricting on
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: the rules of engagement? Because people could see more, there
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: were more videos of this war taking place as opposed
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: to any other war before, or was it strictly political
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: in your mind? I think it was.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but I think it was,
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: I think it was strictly political. It was, you know, the,
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex, right?
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: And we're seeing that in full swing, you know, today,
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: even today. And I think they had to keep the
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: war going, you know, to keep the money machine going,
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: but try to, you know, dial down public opinion on
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: on what we were doing over there yeah and so
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: they kneecapped us you know and i think that's what
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: And so you're right now you're working for the ca
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: you're more of a in the shadows kind of working
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: at this time what were the next dom do you
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: say anything about this are you publicly giving your opinion
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: at the time or you kind of just keep doing
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: your business as.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Business you don't have time i mean that's the thing
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: like you get little inklings of stuff and things piss
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: you off and you start to see over there, you
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: start to see how everything is designed, you know, but
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: only to a certain extent because you're so busy running
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: ops and doing things that, you know, that's what keeps
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: your mind busy and you have to focus on that,
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: you know, to stay alive and to keep your people
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: alive and all that kind of stuff. And so then
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: when I left and you zoom out, on what that
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: looks like. And you're like, oh man, like.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Try to put the pieces together.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: And that's 2012. So how much longer did you, were
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: you working for the CIA? Yeah, I left there in 2015. 2015,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: so just about three years later.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: When you get to the CIA and you're realizing some
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: of this stuff, like, are there questions of like, are
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: we all, is all these different entities on the same team?
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Or are you learning that somebody else is kind of
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: running the cards?
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Oh man, it's very compartmentalized. Everything- everything is like very compartmentalized,
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: all the different government agencies, nobody's talking to each other.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Nobody's collaborating. It's a, it's like, even in the seal teams,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: you start to learn, this is a, it's a sales pitch.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Like you're sending ops up on how you would do
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: them and they get denied and another unit might pick
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: it up. So it's, you're computing for assets being in
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: like helicopters, drones, uh, infantry units, blocking was like all kinds.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: You're just, it's always a sales pitch on like who's
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: gonna get the op. And then when you get, when
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: you zoom out of that, it's an even bigger sales pitch.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: And I don't wanna make it sound like I was
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: like high level agency. Like I wasn't, I was a contractor,
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: low level agency. You know what I mean? And so
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: all I would pick up is like, scuttlebutt here and
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: there you know what people are saying and seeing how
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: things run and how balls get dropped and all that
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: kind of shit my job at uh when i was
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: contracted for ca was um you guys know benghazi that
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: the benghazi story so those were like my co-workers grs
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: global response.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Staff uh in 2015 when you decided to come back
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: how hard was it for you after everything you've seen
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: to kind of like reintegrate yourself back into regular.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Lifestyle It was maybe the toughest thing, one of the
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: toughest things I've ever done.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Is it one of those things where you know how
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: bad it is on what you were doing and where
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: you're at that you're like, I should probably go back
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: to this? What were the massive hurdles for you when
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: you started coming back?
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: No network. Skills don't translate. Major addiction issues. major addiction
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: to adrenaline um addiction to chaos like if things would
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: be fine and you you blow it up just because
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: you're like comfortable i didn't even know this about myself
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: at the time but you would just create all this
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: chaos in your life so that because that's how you
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: kind of feel at home like oh okay this is
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: familiar yeah and when things are good you're like oh
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, like subconsciously you're like doing this. And, um,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: so yeah, addiction, like all those things. And, um, it was, yeah.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: And you realize like nothing that you've done for the past, whatever, whatever, 13, 14,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: 15 years, whatever it was, 15 years. Um, no, no.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: What are you going to do?
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: In the civilian world, nothing like, There's nothing that it
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: translates into.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: How'd you, had you met your wife? Like, were you
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: with your wife when all this stuff is, has, is happening?
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: No, not yet.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Okay. Gotcha. Cause I'm almost wondering like of this, this
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: warrior mentality that you have coming back and trying to reacclimate,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: like what things you had to get rid of to be,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: you know, a husband, to be a father, try and
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: get kind of reacclimated back into that life. Like what
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: part of the warrior mentality did you have to ultimately
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: rid yourself of? Yeah.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a long process, but I don't think
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: you get rid of it, but you have to redirect it.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: And so I redirected mine into business. You know what
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: I mean? And it took a long time and it's frustrating,
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: but if you like, you know, um, I don't know.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: I would think it's similar to you guys when you
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: leave the pro, you know, pro pro sports, like you're like,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: this doesn't translate into a fucking podcast. You know what
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: I mean? You come with it, you know, it takes
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: a certain, uh, it takes a lot, man. Like nobody
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: just walks onto a pro field, you know, and it
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: takes a lot of drive and a lot of dedication
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: and a lot, a lot of mental toughness, I would assume.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: And so that's what it takes to be a SEAL.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: That's what it takes to, you know, compete, uh, to,
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: to be able to contract for the agency. And, and
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: so like, once you can, I think it's two, one,
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: you have to be able to one is you have
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: to be able to leave that shit behind and be
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: like all right like these are things that i did
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: that are really fucking cool that nobody gets to do
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: but like that is not me that that is not
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: who i am those are just that's just some shit
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: that i did in the past and like the quicker
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: you can come to grips with that and let go
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: and redirect it into something else, because you think like,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: how am I ever going to like, that was the
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: pinnacle of my life at whatever, 30, you know, 30
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: something years old. Like it's never going to be like
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: that ever again. Well, if you can redirect it into something,
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: and I think for a lot of people it's entrepreneurship
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: or maybe starting some type of a nonprofit, which is entrepreneurship,
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: you know, then there are no limits. know to that
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: and so once you can kind of get the grasp
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: of that and realize okay like here's something i can
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: really pour everything i have into then you start to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: you know come out of.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: It how long did it take you to have that
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: realization that you did of oh this is something that
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: i did and i had to redirect all my energy
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: into something else whether it's entrepreneurship and stuff like.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: That like when you're at rock bottom yeah.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: It didn't take me too long to redirect. I would
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: say it took me less than a year to start
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: to redirect, but I had all like, I was like,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: I was like into a lot of bad shit. And,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: and so it was, it's like an onion, man, like
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: layers just start getting peeled off and you start coming
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: to these realizations like, Like you were talking about it
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: out there. Like I haven't drank in four and a
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: half years. But it took me a long time to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: get to the point where it's like, you know, first
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: it's like the hard shit goes away. And then, you know,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: and then wine goes away. And then it's just like,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: you know, this shit is just like not doing anything
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Like I wake up feeling like shit and like it's
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: taking productivity from me. And then you get rid of
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: it and you're like, whoa, man, like I'm, I'm just
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: like quadrupled my productivity.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: You're in a better mood. You can problem solve a
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: whole lot easier.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: It's sharper.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: It unlocks a whole bunch of stuff for you. What were, um,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: we were talking, you talk about us talking outside out
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: of the bus. What were some of the things that
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: you did to get off of the alcohol to start
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: making the better decisions and all those things?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, first. So, like I said, I went in
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: layers and, um, first thing, like, I had a couple
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: of ODs, uh, on drugs. That was a big wake
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: up call. Then I had a suicide attempt and, uh,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: I was in therapy at the time and I had
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: made a promise to my therapist that I would not
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: drink anymore. It was any more hard shit. I was like,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: all right, fine. No more hard stuff. So I transitioned.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: I kept that promise. I transitioned to like beer and wine,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: which eventually became wine. And then, um, And then for
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: a long time, I didn't really, I didn't feel like
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: I had a problem. And I met my wife too
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: around that time.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: What year is this?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: That would have been.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: You got it, you got it.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Wife's out there laughing right now.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Stadium pulse is high. I think it's 2017.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: We're good. 2017, there it is. meet your wife, start,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: stop doing the hard stuff, just wine and beer.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: So I've been thinking about it and she had been
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: sober for no shit. I think we're at 16 years
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: for her now, 16 or 17 years. And so she
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: was like an inspiration for me. You know, I was like, Oh,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: like it's like a normal person here with, with, uh,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: and you can have fun and have a life without booze.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: And you know what I mean? It kind of like
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: put it on my radar and I had all these,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: interesting questions for her. And, um, and she had real answers,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: you know, not like other women that I had gone
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: on dates with or what, you know, been involved with.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: It was like intelligent, real answers, not just some fucking bimbo. And, uh,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: she could relate to like what I was saying. And
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: so that was an inspiration. And then, uh, we moved
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: to Tennessee and I was, uh, the podcast had started and, um,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: it was going pretty good, but I like business pressure was, uh,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: getting to me and I had a, we'd had our, uh,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: our firstborn. And so I honestly, I wanted to just
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: be in the moment and I did, um, I went
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: to Mexico, this guy, DJ Shipley kind of convinced me, um,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: go down and do this ibogaine and um i did
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: it and then when i came back i kicked i
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: just kicked booze like it was like nothing it was
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: like no effort was the intent to kick booze no
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: the intent was just i need to get back at
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: the moment and like supposedly this is like a miracle
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: and um and so i went down and did like
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: i had interviewed eddie gallagher actually put it on my
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: radar then um interviewed uh marcus capone who kind of
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: started this uh non-profit vets and then dj shipley um
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: came on and offline he was like dude he'd like
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: he's like you gotta go just go try it just
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: do it it'll change your life and he was right
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: it did and um like yeah i came back from
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: that and like i just It was like, I just
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: had like, I don't know. It was just like, hey, Sean,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: this shit's poison. And haven't had a drink since.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: That's fascinating because we had Robert Gallery on, the old
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: lineman that we were telling you about, and he was
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: on the spot talking about Ibogaine and his kind of
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: mental health journey. And he's a big believer in the Ibogaine,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: like going down to Mexico and going through that process.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: It seems like a grueling process, all the vomiting and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: everything that kind of happens and takes place. But he's,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: you know, he's, uh, he's on the wave of that,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: something like that change in his life and getting other
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: people who might have, whether it's brain damage, whatever it is, like, uh,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: he's just a big advocate for it. Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: There's definitely something to it. I mean, there's a lot
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: of science behind it. I've done it twice. I had
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: a really good experience. I had a really bad experience.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: And those are four years apart, right? You, you, that
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: second experience was recently, correct?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: So just to, did you just do Abergain the first time?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: I did Ibogaine 5-a-meal the first time. Okay.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: So it was the same cocktail both times? Yep. Got you.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: And then the first, can you just, I mean, I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: know you've talked about this a lot, but what was
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: that first experience like as far as what you saw,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: how you felt during the, when you did everything?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like a life review. So, and for me,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: it was a lot more, you know, everybody's shit is different,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: but for me, it was like a life review. And,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: but you don't, you don't really relive everything. It's just like,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: For me, it was like these lines.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Of TV screens that just went to infinity.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: And you're like going through them and losing them in
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: your peripherals. And you would see like different points in
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: your life in no particular order. Like you'd see shit
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: when you were like four years old. And then you'd
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: see shit in Afghanistan when you're in your 20s. And
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: then you see junior high wrestling. And then you see
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: like getting in trouble by your dad And you'd see
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: like good times at school. Like there was like, and
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: every time you'd try to like dive into one of
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: those experiences, it would all, they would all disappear. And
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: then it would start over. And so it was, that
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: was it. It was like, and it's almost like you
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: can feel the stuff moving through your brain. Like you
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: can like feel like buzzing and it feels like, I
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: don't know, like a damn thing. brush is like cleaning
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: out the pipes in your brain like the neural pathways
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: and uh and it does like you come out of
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: it and you're super sharp.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: You know and you had a bad experience with the second.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: One you had a horrible experience with the second.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: One yeah what made that one so bad what made
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: the second one so bad oh it.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: Felt like an exorcism like legitimate felt like an exorcism.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: And the first one you, you, uh, I was listening
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: to one video. You were explaining it. Like you saw,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: like you didn't see God, but you felt the presence
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: of God.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: And the first one.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: And the first one.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And that was at the five MEO. So the
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Ibogaine's like a life review.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: And.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, so these are two separate. I thought it was
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: like a cocktail.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: You put them together. So here's, you do it. It's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: really like Ibogaine. I think I can, they call it,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: it's like the most powerful one of all. Yeah. And, um,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: like the, like this last, I can't remember how long
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: the first one lasted, but it was a long time.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: And the second one, I remember we went in at
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: 8 PM and I didn't, I wasn't even able to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: get up and walk out of there until 4 PM
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: the next day. So what is that? Like 20 hours? Yeah.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Is that 20 hours? Something like that, you know, 20 hours.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: And then, um, and then you, you have an off
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: day and then you do five the next day after that.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: And five, the experience is much shorter in the five? Yeah,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: it's like- Because five is a version of DMT, correct?
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: So it's like blasting off, it's like a 15 to
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: 20 minute review or whatever it is.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: It's like a death experience. And then when you die,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: you come out on the other end and it feels
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: like you're being absorbed into all good in the world.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: Like you like melt into it.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: All right. That's awesome.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Okay. Now the second one is an exorcism.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: But the way there is like.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: So essentially the Ibergine... it washes everything away, cleans the pipes.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: So we're looking at a blank canvas now. And the
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: five MEO, that's what it's called. This is now is
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: painting the picture of everything good in the world for you.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Am I kind of generally understanding that correctly?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be. So I would say the first,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: on the first one that I did, maybe the first
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: 30 seconds is, 30 to 45 seconds is like, the
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: most anxiety and fear you've ever felt in your entire life. Like,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: in your mind, you're 100% certain, without a doubt, that
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: this is the end. Like, you are dying. You are
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: fucking dying. You're, like, fighting it, and then you gotta
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: let go to actually die.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: Okay?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: And then once you let go, that's when it like
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: immediately transitions into good. But to get there, you have
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: to give up. It takes a shit ton, every ounce
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: of courage you can possibly muster up. It's going to take,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: because you're like, it starts with, I mean, and it's
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: all like, it's like warp speed, man. Like the last,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: like the last thoughts for me, Every time I've done
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: it are my wife and my kids. It's like, I
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: can't fucking leave them.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: No, like not in this, not in this world. They
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: can't be here without me. And so like that for me,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: that's like the last, all the other stuff I'm like, whatever.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: But it gets to that point. You're like, I can't
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: leave this world, man. Like there's no way. And then
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: you eventually like let it go. And that's when you
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: cross over. But you, you, you die.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Shit.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: It's like what you're saying, what you're saying is so crazy.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what to ask about it, but
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: it is like, do you feel yourself physically crossing over
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: into like, is it a parallel universe? Is it the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: same universe with all the evils gone away? Like, yeah,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: kind of. I mean, you know, a lot of people
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: wear an eye.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Mask, but I wanted to, I didn't want to wear
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: an eye mask. And so when I, when I did die, woke,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: I like got up and I was looking around and
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: you can, um, no, it's not like, sounds like super
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: hippie ish, but you see, like you hear about energy
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: and shit like that. You feel like you were part
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: of that vibration of the world of earth. And so like,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: for me, I was on a, like close to the beach.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: I could see the ocean and I could see these
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: islands and like, I could, could feel this energy like
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: this really powerful energy that was good like all breathing
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: in sync and like flowing through everything that you see
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: through trees through yourself through and you were like holy
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: i'm like part of this entire thing like this is
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: everything we're all part of this thing.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah you're first yeah you're uh fully rooted in the
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: earth yeah so you do this You come back, your
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: anxiety is gone. Your PTSD feels like it's gone. You
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: kick alcohol. And then four and a half years later,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: you decide I'm going to go back and do it again.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: What was the reason to go do it again?
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: Maybe it wasn't the best reason, but you know, you
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: start like, well, I don't know how deep you want
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: to get here, but like you.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Start I would love to go deep with you.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: Okay. Um, you start, uh, so that sent me like
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: down this path where I was like, whoa, dude, like
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: there's definitely more, like you don't just fucking die and
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: it's over. Like it, it, it, it, I had this
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: realization like, holy shit, maybe there is a God, maybe
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: there isn't a God, maybe it's just energy, but I
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: don't know, but there's definitely good and evil. And, um,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: like we absorb into something like after death, like that
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: to me was proof. And it sent me down this
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: path and I found Christianity through it, but I'd always
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: kind of dabbled in psychedelics a little bit. Like I've
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: done five here, bunch of times, like I've done psilocybin,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: I've done a bunch of shit. And like, you start to,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: you start to, This sounds fucking crazy, man, but you
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: start finding answers to shit in the middle of these experiences.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: And so what I've noticed, what I, like you're opening
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: yourself up to a new realm and that realm may
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: be a forbidden realm that we're not supposed to be accessing.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: Like you get like a veil lifted off. I mean,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: you know, you think about it, you got five senses, right? sight, taste, hearing, touch,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: you know, smell. And this like. Gives you another sense,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: which would I would maybe say is called intuition, like
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: full intuition and. Things that you're like. That you want
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: to know. Like, what what should I do in this?
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: I got this, you know, fork in the road in
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: my life. which way should I go? And you will
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: get a picture of what both of those ways are
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: going to do. And you will come out of it
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: knowing like, that's not the way I want to go down. Or,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: or maybe you have a big opportunity presented to you.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: And you're like, I don't know why the fuck this
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: guy's like offering me this shit, but it'll be really good.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't make sense and like you go
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: into that and you'll it's like things start getting revealed
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: to you like okay like there's the angle that's what
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: this is all about this isn't he doesn't want to
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: help me you know what i mean he wants to
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: do this to come around and then this is going
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: to happen and you it's fucking crazy, man. It's like
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: a forbidden knowledge. And, and so I started diving into it,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: like with tough decisions, a lot of, a lot of
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: really big business owners do this, you know, even around here. And,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: and so I would do it. And, and then also,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: you know, on the other end, like I, I, I,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: started doing like my podcast got huge, you know, and
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: I started interviewing heads of state in the world and and.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: Like.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: I could pretty much reach anybody I wanted, you know,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: like anybody I wanted. And, you know, maybe not all
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: those people are good. And I think that I took
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: in a lot of evil shit. And so. and that
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: built up a lot of anxiety and, and, uh, like
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: it got to the point on my podcast. I didn't
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: even want to sit in front of the windows, man.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: Like at nighttime.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Because of the types of status of people you had on.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: Because I thought I was like, I don't know. I
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: don't want to get fucking killed, you know? And, uh,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: and so I wanted to release all that shit. And,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: and I felt like going down there and doing it
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: again would flush it all out. And that just, that
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: just isn't what happened.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: So what did happen?
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: What did happen? What happened is, uh, what happened is
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: I think I did take on a lot of evil
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: and that how much evil I actually took on was
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: shown to me, uh, in the Ibogaine experience. And then, um,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: when I did five MEO DMT, it was, uh, Like
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: I was it was like an exorcism, like I could
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: not cross over and I kept hitting it again and
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: again and again and again. Like I was like, all right,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm here. and, uh, I'm going to keep, I'm
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: going to keep taking this shit and hitting this fucking
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: pipe until this shit is gone. And it wasn't going
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: to leave, man. It got to the point where they
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: wouldn't let me hit it anymore. Like I was ready
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: to fight it. I didn't, I had convinced, I was like,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: I'll stay here for a month. I'm not going back
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: to my family like this, like whatever is inside of
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: me has got to come out. And so, um, so
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: like I said, even before that, I, I, I think
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: that you, you are dabbling in a place that we
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: don't know much about. And, uh, you know, I don't
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: know like what your guys is, you know, what your
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: beliefs are, but there is a spiritual realm. that is
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: real and like when you go into that unprotected and
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: start looking around for answers and dabbling in that there's
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: a lot of deceptions and there can be a lot
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: of good but if you keep around in that like
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: i don't think it's it's it's it's good for people.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: So basically what I'm gathering is you have a great
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: experience the first time. The second time, are you saying
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: that the Ibergine and the 5-MEL, were those the two
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: things that made this like exorcism experience? Or is it
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: because of the things that took place between the first
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: experience and the second experience that made you feel like
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: you're having an exorcism?
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: All of it.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: All of it.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you some shit that I haven't told anybody yet.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: At least I don't think I have on YouTube. camera
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: and this is just one thing that doesn't have anything
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: to do with like demons and like exorcism any of
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: that shit but this last time on the ibogaine right
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: i put this mask on and i had released some
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: shit i'll eventually release my experience i actually recorded it
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: all right after it happened because i wanted to i
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: didn't want to miss anything but i remember one we
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: we went into this room i'd never been in there
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: before we show up in the dark i don't know
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: what it looks like don't know where the windows are
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: at i don't know any of this right and i
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: had this eye mask on and i i wake up
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: when i wake up you're awake the whole time but
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: i have this it would be like in this bus
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: like i just walked in here for the first time
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: i don't know how many windows are behind me i
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: know there's a line of them but i don't know
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: how many i put this eye mask on so you're
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: blind you got a blindfold on and i start looking
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: around and i can see everything but it looks like
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: an architectural drawing Like, it's not like how it is here,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: but it's like your third eye is above you. And
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: if I were to look back, I would, with my
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: blindfold on, I'd be like, one, two, three. There's four
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: windows there. There's an emergency exit in the back. There's
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: four windows here. Okay, there's some kind of a column
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: that goes across. And I would like pull the blindfold
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  Speaker 3: down and I'd be like, holy shit. How the fuck
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: do I know that? And then I'd turn my head
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: over here. And I'd be like, all right, there's two
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: windows there and one over there, but the windows open
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: and there's a, you know, the boy sign. And I'd
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: pull my blindfold down. I'm like, holy shit. Like, how's
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: this happening? And I put it up and I'd look
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: out there and I'm like, okay, that's a sliding glass
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: door with a balcony. And there's four pillars out the door.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: And I'd be like, So you're seeing through the blindfold,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: like how is that even humanly possible? You can believe
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: me or you can not believe me. I don't, but
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: that's what happened.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: You know, and it was, it looked like architectural drawings
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: in the blindfold and then I would lift up and
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, okay, well they're like, this is, and
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: so that's what I'm telling you is like, you will
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: get answers to shit that you are thinking about and
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: it will like, it's like you have a super intelligence
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: And then that is, so that goes along with also
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: like entity demons. You're looking around this place without any
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: protection at all. Do you believe something like attached to
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: you through the second process?
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: I think it's, I think it's definitely possible. I don't
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: know if it was in there before or if it
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: came in, but I think that you open a window
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: where you, You can see out, but you're also letting
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: shit in.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: It's almost like you've seen too much. It's like you've
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: got a security guard with you of some sort at
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: all times.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: What conversations or guests did you have on that you
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: feel like maybe some of this evil came? Because if
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: you're going out there because you feel like you want
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: to rid yourself of this evil, like I don't want
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: to sit by the window, you felt like some evil
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: was taking place. Like what are a couple of these
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: conversations or maybe business things that happened?
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's, you know, I don't think it's
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: any one particular person, but I think a lot of
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: it was politicians. I think a lot of it was
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: that and seeing like all these different people that I
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: had had on my podcast that wound up. you know,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: in the administration or the president or the vice or whoever, man,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And then to see every
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: single one of the, like all the things that they
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: told me that were complete bullshit, you know, happen. And
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: it's like, these fuckers like use my platform to lie
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: to millions of people to get in there. And like,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: like I allowed that to happen, you know? And I'm
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: not saying like, you know, I'm not even picking a
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: side here because I think this is just political politics
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: in general at this point. And, but that, that like
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: things like that, where I've uncovered a lot of shit, man,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: like I've uncovered, like maybe not uncovered, but amplified. Like
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: I had Elizabeth Phillips who was talking about like these
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: kids that were getting like abused, like sexually abused at
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: these church camps, you know, and, and, And then like,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: I had this team of attorneys like trying to sue me,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? That were hired by the,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: by the place. It's like, no man, like this shit
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: actually happened. Like this happened, like, go ahead. If you
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: want to fucking play this game, like, well, and I
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: would fight against this shit. You know what I mean? And,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: or like my, one of my best friends, Ryan Montgomery,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: he's a hacker. Who's been like standing up for kids
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: and saving kids and, against sexual abuse, sexual exploitation, stuff
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: like that. This Schlepp, I had this kid Schlepp on.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: He's like 20-something years old, got abused on roadblocks, made
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: it his life goal to go against roadblocks. We took
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: $ 28 billion off their stock in less than a year.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: You can see.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: From the point. They don't get you killed. Yeah, $ 28 billion.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: You know, you can see from like day the interview
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: released and watch the stock graph to where it is.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: And like, you can see the hits along the way.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, that started a wave. I mean, I
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: can't personally claim, like it's not just me, but like
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: we started that wave, man. Like you, Ryan Montgomery released
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: on this date, less than a year, 28 billion. You know,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: like things like that and exposing that shit and knowing that,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: Like how many kids are not going to be abused
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: because now their parents are educated or they're educated, you know, or,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: you know, things like that, like that pisses another side
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: of this thing off, you know? And so just all
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: kinds of shit, all kinds of stuff like that.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: You got to be living with anxiety quite often. Cause
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: if you're losing, you know what I mean? It's like,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: if you're this company, how much, how many billions?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: 28.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: 20 billion dollars because i.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: Like i've followed you for a while and there are
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: always these pockets whether it's annually whatever where you're like
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: i gotta go off the grid to stay safe and
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: stuff like that to where it's like you know people
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: could be coming after you how do you then balance
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: to where you feel comfortable even being like going out
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: and about you know what i mean like why does
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: that why would it all of a sudden change after
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: a period of time is it like is it security?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: Is it figuring out, okay, this was the angle. You
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like to like, Hey, I'm going
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: to go on, I'm going to go in the hole
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: for a little bit. Then you feel like you can
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: come back out of the hole. How does the mindset
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: of the people that were going to come after you?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: How does it, how does it then change is because
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: you got on their tail?
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean, it's just, you know, a lot
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: of that is like peace of mind. I mean, dude,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: if somebody wants to kill you, they're going to kill you.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: You know, like there's not really shit you or anybody
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: else is going to do about it. Like if, if
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: somebody wants to find you, like they're going to find you,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: you know, if they're that dedicated, no matter how much
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: security you have, you know, it's just kind of inevitable.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: But it's, you know, it's like a lot of that,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: like just going off the grid for a minute is
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: just for my own peace of mind.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: And so it's interesting, like have you, you bring up
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: evil and these people you've had in your podcast. Did you,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: when you had these people in your podcast, did you
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: ever assume they were evil or had evil intentions?
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: And that's like, That's what sucks is, like, it got
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: to the point where I don't, like, with some of this, like,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: with politics, I don't trust myself. You know, I put, like,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: all my eggs into one basket. Yeah. And and, uh,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: actually like unintentionally, because I offered like everybody a spot
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: on my show, you know, but unfortunately like only kind
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: of one side at the time, you know, took it. And, um,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: like we tried to get like, I had Kamala coming on,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: but then she backed out.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Was it similar to the way Rogan experiences him almost
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: getting her on? where they had to do, hey, you
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: have an hour. These are the questions you can ask.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: These are what you can't ask. We have to have
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: editorial freedom. Did you sit there? I mean, at the time,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm just, hindsight's always 20-20. So we're sitting there
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: and you have one person on one side being like,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: I'll come in the podcast, we'll talk about whatever. And
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: the other side's like, you have to ask these questions,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: do these things. I'm sure logic will tell you, like
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: in your brain at the moment, like, oh, probably the
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: better way to go is the person that's willing to
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: talk about whatever.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: But I told, I had mentioned, I said, okay, I'll
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: tell you what, I don't even care what we talk about.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: You just tell me and I'll do the thing. And like,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: I had an inclination. I was like, she can't, it
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Like I'm going to be able to ask
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: the right questions on whatever topic they want to do.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: So I just, I was like, okay, you don't want
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: to talk about the Afghan withdrawal. You don't want to
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: talk about it.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Fine.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: You tell me whatever you want to talk about and
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: then we'll do that.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: And I'll just come up with my outline that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: You know, like, I know I can handle my own.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: And then I don't know why, you know what I mean?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: They were like, okay. And then it just, like, went dark.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: How soon?
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: But, you know, like, I just, with, you know, me personally,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not really happy with how things are going. Yeah.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: And I was told a lot of things that kind of, like,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: never happened or were actually doing the complete opposite.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: And so I was like, man, like I just, I
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: helped do this.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Right. You feel a sense of responsibility.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: Getting duped.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Would you be able to talk yourself, would you be
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: able to talk your old self in before the election,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: before everything took place? When Trump or Kamala were going
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: to come in, do you think you knowing what you
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: know now could talk yourself into not having either of
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: those people on?
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: My old self.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: Like before doing the podcast. Because at the time when
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: you had Trump on or the vice president on or
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: anybody in the administration- You're thinking in your brain, you're
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: doing the right thing because you think it's the best
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: direction for the country to go.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: Now you know what you know. Clearly you've said, I
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: don't like the way things are going right now. With
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: knowing what you know, do you think your old self
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: would have believed what you're saying now or not?
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: Probably not.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think I would have believed it. So you
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: can't really like beat yourself up. That's not really how
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: I came across though. Like it didn't come across as like,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: I wasn't like beating the drum. You know what I mean?
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: I wasn't like, beating the drum like yeah i'm gonna
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: go vote for you everybody should vote for so and
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: so like i would just have a conversation with them
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: i mean internally like i leaned a certain way but
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: i wanted you know the other side on like i
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: really did you know and um because because i wanted
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: to know personally like are they all into like this
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: shit or is it just you know this these people
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: you know and um but it but i got labeled
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: you know i got labeled um as like the the
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: other side like i was just like always in cahoots
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: with the other side when i never really was.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Got labeled the manga guy yeah we all did brother
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: how much you fight against it or hate it it's
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: like yeah it's it does suck coming to the realization
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: of like that people are gonna have whatever opinion they
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: want about you. And if the voice, if they're loud
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: enough and if they're strong enough, it's like, do you
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: want to put energy into fighting back against it? And
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: it's like, then you get caught up in this spiral of,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: is this what I want to be checking my phone
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: or searching about all the time? And then you feel
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: like it takes from you and it's like, man, I'm
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: just fucking going to put my phone down.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Because the minute you start responding to it and fighting it,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: just all it does is add more eyes and ears
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: to the situation.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: And it's all you're thinking about all the time, which
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: anytime we're in the political realm or when there's a
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: vote happening or anything else, and it just... it just
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: takes from your energy because all you get caught up
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: in is trying to figure out how you're right and
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: somebody else is wrong. And then you're going to come
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: across somebody that might have a differing opinion or maybe
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: you find some common ground because you're trying to be
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: rational about it. But either way, there's going to be
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: a tipping point of something to where you just internally
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: are worked up all the time. Yeah.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What was, I mean, obviously you, Tucker, Rogan, there's
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: a handful of people that were like, yeah, we want
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: like whether you want, yeah, yeah. There were influential people.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, we had drama, but we were not even
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: in the same world.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: We got it. We got, we got mentioned in the
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: victory speech. Yeah, we did get mentioned in the victory speech.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is still crazy to think about. Waking up
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: the next morning to all the texts. I'm like, hey,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: did you see that?
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Waking up to hundreds of texts. Something bad must have happened.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh shit.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: Um, Why, like, is there like one specific reason why
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: Tucker's out on, on this administration or you're out on the,
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: or drug, like, I know you guys all have a relationship,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: but I know like Tucker himself, he like, I remember
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: we were at, um, uh, jelly rolls birthday at Zany's
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: and we're doing like a roast of, of jelly roll.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: And like one of the people that work for Tucker
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: was there. I'm like, Oh, what's he up to? And
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: they're like, he's in Russia right now trying to negotiate
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: like whatever standoff I'm thinking to myself, that is just insane.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: like how much influence he has all over the world,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: yourself included. Like what, I guess, what happened?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: With what?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: This new administration. What was the final domino for everyone
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: to be like, hey, we're done with this?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, a lot of things. Like no new wars. Well,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: that went out the window relatively quick.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the end of March. We're going to
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: end the.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: Ukraine-Russia war before I'm in. That went out the window
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: before he went in. You know, the whole... maha movement
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: make american health make america healthy again that whole thing
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: went out the window pretty much immediately you know with
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: the glyphosate immunity what.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Is the glyphosate immunity um so wait am i.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: Dude i have no clue i'm just listening yeah so
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: the uh they.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: They So before, if you got cancer, I guess you could...
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: And it came from glyphosate, which is shit they spray
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: on the crops. That would.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: You could sue them. Well, the Trump administration made it.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: They gave them immunity. So they're no longer liable.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: And they're like, oh, this would cause....
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: It's a national security crisis.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: I can't remember the exact numbers. You can look at
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: my Zach Lon interview. I used to know these like that, but,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: but yeah, it was like 600 and something thousand people
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: died of cancer last year. And do you know where
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: the number one, uh, like the number one state people
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: are dying of cancers? It's Iowa. Do you know where
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: the number one state that uses glyphosate is? Iowa. And
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: we just give them immunity.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: And it's like, what?
• 1:36:11
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's just crazy. Like what?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: And like the influence that we're getting from other countries.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: It's just, it's crazy to me. Like, so anyways.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: What do you think is the outcome of all this
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: at where it stands right now? Cause I like, you
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: see like, Hey, there's might be like a, a power
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: grid shut down for 10 days.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: What is that? I don't know.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: I literally, the power grid's getting shut down?
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: Bro, so this weekend I saw, and I know we're
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: kind of like, clearly I am so not equipped to
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: have this conversation, but it's obviously very interesting. Like yesterday
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: or the last couple of days, they've been talking about
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: like having like the government said something about like shutting
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: down the grid and for 10 to 14 days to
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: avoid cyber attacks taking place because of all the stuff
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: in Iran and Russia. Am I, am I right on
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: the right track? I don't even know.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: I've like leaned so far out of this shit, but yeah,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: I know what you're talking. Like, I know that they're like, Oh,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: you need to have like, what is it? Like 30
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: something countries have come out and said this and like, Oh,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: you need to have like, I don't know, a couple
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: of days or 90 days or whatever, a food, water,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: like all this shit to survive for your family. It's like, Hey,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe instead of shitting so much fucking money,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: taxpayer money to Ukraine and Israel, if you're worried about
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: the power grid getting hacked, maybe take some of that
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: money that you're sending everybody else and spread it around
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: the American community so that they can fucking prepare because
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: everybody's hurting right now. Because you started another war. And
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: the fucking gas prices are up again.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: And inflation hasn't come back down. And people are having
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: problems making ends meet. But yeah, let's just keep shipping
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: all of our fucking money over to these other countries
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: and just fuck Americans.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: And just give us like, just drop that shit.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: Hey, you guys better stock up. Fuck you, dude. Fuck you.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: It is a.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: You better stock up. Fuck you. It's a very logical
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: thought process to be like, hey, we should probably take
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: care of our house first than to going and taking
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: care of everybody else. You definitely should focus on America.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: But that's about as much as I know about that subject. So, yeah.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: It is just wild. All this stuff.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: I know, man.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: What do you think– 2001 September, uh, uh, nine 11
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: happens and you, you brought it up. Like, I remember
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: where I was, will remembers where he was, but I
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: also remember like every single neighborhood, every single house had
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: an American flag out of it. With Toby Keith came
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: out with essentially the second national anthem with courtesy, the red, white,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: and blue right after, like, we were also American. What
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: between them then and now has changed so dramatically. Is
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: there like a specific point where this is when stuff
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: started to shift? Cause it feels like it's like now
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: cool to not like America as opposed to before then
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: it was like being, being, uh, appreciating the country you
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: live in.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: Where did it shift?
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: I would say like maybe the biggest shifting point was
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: where it started, I think was the Iraq war, you know?
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: Cause I mean, I was all for it back then.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: Cause I was like, we're going to go get it on.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: And these are terrorists. And like, this is what I've
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: been waiting. And, you know, but now looking back, like,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: I was wrong about that. And, like, we probably never
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: should have been over there. Actually, not probably. We should
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: have never been over there.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: And, you know, I mean, like, looking back, there was
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: this company, KBR, maybe Halliburton, maybe you've heard of it.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: Dick Cheney was the CEO of it.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: And then became vice president. And then we go to war.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: And Halliburton was the entire, like all logistics for both wars.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: So you go to Iraq and you see everything, all
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: the infrastructures being built by Halliburton. Your mail is delivered
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: by Halliburton. Your chow is cooked by Halliburton. The shitters
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: are cleaned by Halliburton. The gas stations are manned by Halliburton.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: Jet fuel, every logistical piece of waging war, all the infrastructure,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: everything is Halliburton. Now, would you think that maybe that's
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: a conflict of interest?
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: I'd probably say so.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, based on what you just told me. And I
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: think that was one thing that- Maybe one side saw
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: and the other didn't see because it was, you know,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: they had a veil over it on those media channels.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I think that's, that's maybe kind of where
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: it started.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: Switching it up.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: Maybe something a little lighter.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: You had a lot, you've had a lot of UFO
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: people on.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: Where were you at with some? some non-humans being out there.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like, I feel like aliens are real.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I'm more of like, I don't know. It's
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: fun to think about aliens being real. It's like, you know,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: that scene you saw in signs where the, you know,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: the alien walks across and you see some of these
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: movies and then it seems to be coming out more
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: that UFOs could be real out there. Area 51. Yeah.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: So the curiosity or the mystery of it.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Doug, he just got your ass. You wouldn't ask him
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: a question. He's like, where are you at? He knows
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: everything he needs to know. Psychologically, he knows us.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: We haven't gotten to sit down with UFO people or
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: nothing like that. Obviously, you've been with the SEALs. You've
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: been with the CIA. You've gotten to sit down with
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: these experts in the area. So where have you landed
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: over time? You feel like it's government tech that could
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: be messing with us or keeping us interested or distracted
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: from something else? Or do you think there could be
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: some non-human life form out there?
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any non-human life form out there.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: The universe is huge, man. The universe is infinite.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: Infinite. I don't think it's out there.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: You don't think so?
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: No, I don't. I think that it's fun to dive into,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: and I got really into it. I was like, oh, man,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: we're going to get to the bottom of this shit.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: The interesting thing is after talking to all these experts
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: on it, none of them like each other. I'll take
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: one guy out of that, Brandon Fugel, the guy that
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: owns Skinwalker Ranch.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: He's a friend of mine.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: Um i've been out to skinwalker it was cool i
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: think he's like legitimately just trying to figure it out
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: but like all these other guys then i hope you
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: guys start bringing them on you'll hear it like this
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: they talk shit about each other like that's all they
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: do like yeah like oh we want disclosure do you
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: want disclosure or do you just want to be the
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: guy that brings disclosure like you just want that for
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: you like Because you're not working with anybody else. And like,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: they come in and like, did you hear about so-and-so
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: is getting picked up for sex trafficking? And then that
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: guy will come in and did you hear about so-and-so he's,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: he's getting ready to get arrested for working with the Russians.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: Did you hear, you know, and it's like, they just
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: sit there and like talk shit about each other and
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: discredit each other all the fucking time. And so I
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: think that's not, nobody's working together. And then, I think that, uh,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 3: I think that there are some people that did like
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: want to get to the bottom of it were some
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: people who want to get to the bottom of it
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: in government. But I think that that is, uh, now become, oh,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: I want my name in the news and I want
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: to get popular. I'm just going to like dive into
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 3: the UFO shit, you know, and call a congressional hearing.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: And I think the government now uses it as a
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: big distraction. uh as well so that's i think that
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: um i think there's some shit going on but i'll
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: i'll go back to um a spiritual realm i think
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: is what that is along maybe with uh government tech
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: maybe yeah.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah they you yeah aliens are fun to believe in
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: but there's also a world where um from a spiritual standpoint,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: people like people say aliens are just essentially spirits.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: That's what Dusty Slade was saying.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've had Dusty Slade, right?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: Dude, I love that guy.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. He's the man, bro.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He was talking to us about how the earth
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: is flat.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: Have you gotten into that convo with him?
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: What's your stance?
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think the earth is flat.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: I don't either, but he brings up a lot of
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: good points. I know.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: It's... Like this is what this podcast is really about.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: The last 45 minutes has been like, oh shit, maybe
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: he'll tell us something we don't know. Or are we like,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: maybe tell us something that will add everything up.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: Like when people bring up aliens now, all I'm going
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: to do is try my best to regurgitate what he
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: just kind of told me. Right. Like, yeah, I just
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: think people are trying to get popular. They're distracting us.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Antarctica. You can't, you can't go to Antarctica. You need
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: a guide to keep you safe. And it's like, yeah,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: why do we need a guide to keep us safe?
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: Now that is.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 6: Hold on.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: Time out.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: Right here.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: Obviously we talked about demonic entities. Do you believe in ghosts?
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: Cause there is a difference.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: Okay. You believe in all that.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: Everything.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: Okay. Skinwalker ranch. Did you, did you experience anything at
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: skinwalker ranch? Cause I'm familiar.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: No. Did you, have you been out there?
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: No God. I've never, I've not been invited into this
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: world yet.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: Oh no God. No, no, no.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: But I've watched, I've watched you.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: No. Exactly.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: A bunch of guys I've watched. Matt Rife came on recently.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: And so I'm pretty in the weeds. The paranormal stuff
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: is very fascinating to me. I don't know how far
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: I want to get into it because I don't want
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: something to grab onto me. I denounce that stuff. You know,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want it. But it is interesting to watch
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: somebody sit in a room with one of those little
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: things and go, somebody here? And then he goes, yes.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, there's a ghost.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: That's kind of right. That's it for me. General studies major.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: So you believe in ghosts?
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: I have nothing else for that.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: I have a question.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: Go back to Antarctica?
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to ask that.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, do this question and then we'll put a pin.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: Just know there's a bookmark for Antarctica.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: So Matt Rife. comedian very popular comedian he just came
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: on he just bought what the annabelle house the conjuring
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: house yeah the warren house the warren and another one too.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: Right he just bought one right after he came on.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: I just bought another one what are these like haunted houses.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah like have you seen have you seen the conjuring
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 5: no annabelle uh so ed and lorraine so ed and
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 5: lorraine uh Ed and Lorraine Warren were two people that
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: Lorraine was like a psychic medium and stuff like that.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: And they've been a part of a bunch of exorcisms
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: and stuff. And there is a Annabelle doll, which is
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: like the most famous of all of these demon, I guess, entities.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: Demonic.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: That's it right there. And so they take these things
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: and they have it in the basement of their house.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: I think they've both since passed. And Matt Rife has
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: bought this house. And it used to be a museum
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: where this doll was. sits at now, and there's another
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: thing they have in Salem.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: It's like haunted artifacts.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: Haunted artifacts. And so Matt Rife owns that house, but
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: there's a bunch of demonic things in that house. Why
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: would you buy that? He probably wants to maybe do
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: some content around it.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 3: Holy shit.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: But now knowing what you know with the exorcism experience
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: and everything else, it's like, you're kind of playing with.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: Fire, right?
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be messing with that shit.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't do that?
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: I think I have heard of this.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. But you gotta go watch The Conjuring. Conjuring 1,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: Conjuring 2, there might be a third.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: I don't like watching that. I won't be able to sleep.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is like demonic paranormal type stuff.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. But Matt Rife is, he's fully involved. He does
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: all the paranormal testing and all those things. You would
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: never do that.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: Ah, I don't like messing with that shit. I think
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: it's like, I got to rule. Like, If you can't
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: kill it, don't fuck with it.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. You know?
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: That's a good rule. I'm with you.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: That's a great rule. That's a great rule.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: The Antarctica.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: Hold on. You kind of got us on another pivot point.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 6: Go ahead.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: I'll remember.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: You brought the, we talked about exorcisms. You said you
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: felt like you had an exorcism. I thought I saw
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: something that, have you gone through your own exorcism to
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: try to get off whatever has been on you?
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, fuck.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: Are you okay to talk about that experience?
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: A little bit. What do you want to talk about?
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: Well, the experience would.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: Probably be the first one. Now, did this happen at
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: your house? No.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: So the Ibogaine 5 MEO takes place. You were talking
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: about hitting the pipe so much that they said you
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: have to stop hitting the pipe. So essentially, you have
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: to go home now, feeling the way you do after,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming, a half dozen experiences because you're going on
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: this DMT over and over again. You come back home
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: and you've experienced things shaking on the wall, stuff coming off. uh,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: terrible nightmares, those types of things to the point where
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: you think to yourself, something has, it has grabbed onto
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: you and that's where I'll let you have the floor
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: and you can speak on as much of it as
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: you'd like.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: Um, so.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: I got home and I.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: Don't know how deep I'm going to go into this,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: but I'll, I'll, this is another thing I've never said.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: So I got home and like all this shit's happening,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 3: but it wasn't really, I don't think any of it
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: was like paranormal. It was all internal. And, uh, it
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: was like almost like flashbacks of like the five MEO experience. And, um,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: and I'm, I'm Catholic. I just wanted to go to
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: mass and get communion. I was like, maybe, maybe that'll
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: make me feel better. And, uh, when I was in hell,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: what I thought was hell. I was kind of like, well,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out what I had done in my
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: life to bring me there. And, you know, could have
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 3: been a handful of things. But I thought I thought
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe this thought just like popped in my head
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: as a flash. because everything's going so fast, it's not
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: like you sit there and hang on to a thought.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: And I had this thought, like, maybe it's because I
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: love my wife and kids more than I love Christ.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: Do I?
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, maybe that's why I'm here.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: And and then I went to mass. And the the
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: priest brought up this is two days after I got home,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: like Friday at midnight, did that five on a Friday.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: And then I'm going home like this. And then, uh, like,
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: I'm like on a plane surrounded by people after that. And, um,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 3: and Saturday I came get out of bed, barely. And Sunday,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: my son who's five comes into my room and tells
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: me he wants to go to church. He wants to
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: go to church. He wants to go to my church
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: because my wife was going to a different church at
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: the time. And I'm like, well, that's kind of weird.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: Like what five-year-old wants to go to a Catholic mass?
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 3: It's like the most boring thing in the world to
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: a five-year-old. And so we, anyways, we go and the priest,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: first thing he starts talking about is loving your wife
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: and kids more than Christ. And I'm like, well, hold on. Well,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 3: that's not a coincidence. And then there was like a
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: series of other things that, He had said. In there
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: and I had this. I thought I was going to
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 3: have an allergic reaction to communion and then. And then
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 3: I went back and I felt like a complete peace,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: like after communion, and I had this voice like snap
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 3: in my head like a bolt of lightning and.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: It said.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: Psychedelics aren't going to renew your mind, Sean. Only I am. And, uh,
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: and that lasted for like maybe about a couple hours,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: two or three hours. And then all of it all
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: came back. Like all of them, like just all the
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 3: darkness came back, all the fear and like anxiety and
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: shaking and sweating. And, um, I was going out my
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: next interview. was with this guy, Father Ripperger. And he's
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: like the most well-known exorcist probably in North America. And
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: so my friend is really tight with him and was like, hey,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: do you want to go out there early and talk
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 3: to him about all this shit that's going on? And
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: I said, yeah. So we flew out there. And he
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: did a full-blown exorcism on me.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: After I told him everything.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that was going to be my question.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: Which took hours and hours to do. But to tell him, like,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: all the different things that I had, like, experienced and, like...
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: Some crazy, unexplainable things started happening in there while he
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: was doing it. And then he just stopped. And me
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: being a SEAL, I'm kind of like, well, what are
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: we stopping for? Let's go. Whatever this is has got
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 3: to come out. And I was like, well, that's not
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 3: really how this works. And, um, and then, and then
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: I connected him with, uh, my priest here. And I
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: was like, who's also an exorcist and, and has become
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: a good friend of mine. And, uh, and so he
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: did five or six more on me, little ones, not
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: like what's, Every single time, dude, shit starts happening. Things
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: start shaking. Uh, there's a manifestation in my body where
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 3: like my stomach starts kicking up at like the snap
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: of the flakes when they start, it's just like, boom.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: You see, uh, it starts kicking up in your stomach.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: It's like, as if like start dry heaving, like it starts,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: it's like indigestion and burps and then dry heaves and
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: just keeps going.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: And where are you at in this process now? Do
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: you feel like you've gotten rid.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: Of whatever it is?
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: I feel pretty, I feel good.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: I feel good.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: What was the reason why the first one he wanted
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: to stop? Because it's just not how it works? You're
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: supposed to stop at a certain point?
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 3: It's a process.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: It's just a process.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 3: It's not like a one-time deal. This stuff can take
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: a year, it can take two years, it can take
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 3: six months. So it's always different. And it matters how
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 3: much dedication you're willing to put into your own work.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: Thing too and do you believe this all came from
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: the 5M 5MEO.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know man I don't know if it came
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 3: from that or if it revealed it um or maybe
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 3: both I don't know how it happened I don't know
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: if this shit's been in me for years and like
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 3: now that I know that it was there that it's
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 3: like pissed and doesn't want to leave or or what
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 3: but you know they talk about like possession versus uh
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: oppression and uh that i what i had or have
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: wasn't a possession where like totally takes over your body
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: they said it's oppression and um and then and and
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: you know there's a lot that they give you to
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: do on your own and then when i started doing
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 3: that stuff on my own the picture frames and all
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 3: that kind of shit flying off the wall. That was
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: actually up in Maine. We're visiting my in-laws and they
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 3: had given me like this series of prayers. And I
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 3: did this series of prayers. I had like a nightmare
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: that I was having like this influential figure in the
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 3: Catholic church on. And then he was sending me like
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 3: homosexual texts. Like, like I was really pumped. This guy
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 3: was coming on. And then he started sending me these
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 3: kind of cryptic, wants to get with me type texts.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 3: And I was like, what the? No, dude. And it
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: made me hate the Catholic Church, which I think is something.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 3: It's trying to make me hate what I believe in.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 3: And so I wake up and then I go and
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 3: I start this prayer regiment. And I start the prayer
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: regiment and I get to St. Michael's prayer which is
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 3: like rebuking demons and this picture frame just goes flies
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: off the wall flies off the wall and then I
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 3: go to mass.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: Hold on flies off the wall and you just go
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: that's crazy.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 3: Well you know like so many things happen that you
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 3: like normally that would scare the shit out of me
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: but I had seen so much up to that point
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 3: through these different exorcisms and stuff that like you you
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: know what it is and it doesn't really scare you
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: anymore you.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: Just want it to go away yeah like you're.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 3: Like okay I know what this is like and it's
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 3: just gonna be here until it's not and the weird
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 3: thing is like When it starts, when it doesn't happen anymore,
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 3: like I'd go like weeks where nothing would happen. And
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 3: then because nothing's happening, it starts making you think, am
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 3: I doing something wrong? Like, why did it quit messing
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: with me? Does that make any sense? Like it's like.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: You get so used to the crazy things happening once
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: they stop happening.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: Like you're like, all right. Like when it's happening, it's like.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: I must be on the right track because I'm pissing
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 3: something off, you know? And then when it stops happening,
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: it's like, am I like veering off into something that
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 3: maybe like it wants me to? Right. Should I come
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 3: back or what's happening?
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: You know? And so, and it keeps you, it keeps
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: you close to, it keeps you close to Christ and
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 3: it's a constant, it's constant. it's consistent proof that like
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: this shit's all real, man.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: So like when you continuously see it over and over,
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 3: it's just happening and it becomes part of your daily life.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: You know, it's that constant reminder, like do good, stay
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 3: on the right path or like you're going to succumb
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 3: to all of this shit, which you don't want. And
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: it puts everything in perspective. Like, way more perspective than
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 3: psychedelics ever did.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Were you, um, at one point you were very
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: pro psychedelics. What's your stance on it now?
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: Uh, I mean, I don't want to, uh, me personally,
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 3: I'll probably never do them again, you know, but, um,
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 3: I can't discount the, maybe the good things that have
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 3: happened to, me and several of my friends, but I
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 3: believe that that all came from Christ and not from psychedelics.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: And so, like I said, it's a realm that I
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 3: don't think any of us will ever understand no matter
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 3: how far science goes. They still don't really know shit
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 3: about it. They just know like, oh, like this is
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 3: like replenishing receptors in people's brains and, you know, and
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 3: TBIs are disappearing, but they can't explain like why it's happening.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 3: You know, and they can't explain, you know, why you're,
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 3: nobody's can explain why I'm able to see through my
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 3: eye mask. And I don't think we're ever going to
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 3: get that explanation. You know, I think it is a
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 3: realm where, you know, and maybe, maybe this has been like,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 3: maybe this is, you know, they say that, uh, Satan
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 3: is the master of deception and everything in the world
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 3: is his rule. And so maybe he has used this
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 3: to lead people down a path by revealing healing and
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: good things to switch it. Because I've brought thousands and
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 3: thousands and thousands of people to psychedelics. And I don't
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 3: know if that was... the right thing.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: Damn. Like I went down there.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 3: And every single person that I saw was like, I'm
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: here because I saw your podcast.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 3: And that's heavy, man. Like, that's like shit.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: The amount of influence.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 3: It's like, did I just, did I lead these people
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 3: astray down a path that like maybe is not good?
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 3: because I had a good experience. And like, what does
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 3: that affect on the world? Or maybe it was good.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 3: You know? And so it just makes, it's just something
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 3: to think about. Like, was you guys, you know, grow
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 3: your influence? Like, I don't know. I don't think there's
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 3: any hills worth dying on except, you know, in Christ,
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 3: because I've been wrong about a lot of things.
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: And, Yeah.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 3: And, um, yeah.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: How do you feel like it's shifted your perspective with
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 2: handling your, your pot, your podcast and your show now,
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: like how much more do you, I guess, vet or
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: research or figure out, or you.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 3: Can't, you can't, you can't vet like what people are
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 3: going to do, you know? And, and, um, but it's,
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 3: it's made me lean out of certain subjects because, uh,
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 3: because people are going to be people, you know? And,
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: and so like, no man is going to fix this shit.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 3: It just isn't going to happen. And, you know, it
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 3: kind of makes me sad to see people like scouring
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 3: the internet and looking for the next guy that's going
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 3: to save the world and turn the country around. Like
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 3: it's not coming. It's not good. That's not going to happen.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 3: Never has happened. Never will happen.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: So your experience is that the person who's sitting at
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: the top chair that we see is not the person
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: running the world or running the country or changing anything?
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 3: No. What I'm trying to say is that all men
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 3: are influenced and are imperfect. And I think a lot
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 3: of us are really, truly seeing that play out right now.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 3: you know, in a big, big, uh, unfortunate way. And, um,
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 3: and I, like, it's just, it's just the, it's the
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 3: tale that's been true through all of time. Nobody is
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 3: going to fix it. No man is going to come
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 3: in here and write the ship.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: How's your wife's experience been with, uh, all of these?
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: things that have happened to you since your experience in Mexico?
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 3: It's been tough on her. You know, I mean, could
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 3: you imagine going through that and then thinking about like
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 3: what your wife thinks? Like, are my kids, am I
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 3: safe here? Are my kids safe around him? Like, that's
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 3: what I'm thinking. but she's, uh, she's stuck with me
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 3: through the whole process. She's been through, she went to
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 3: a couple of them with me and saw it for herself. And, um,
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 3: you know, she's right outside the bus here.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: Yelling out 2017, just a few minutes ago.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: Like, I wonder where her head is at when he's like, Hey,
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: we got to go underground. We got to get off
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 2: the grid for the next few days. And she's like,
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: what is it now?
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 3: She's always, uh, She's my rock, man.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 2: That is awesome.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: As any of these experiences since starting the podcast in 2019,
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: have you ever thought to yourself, I don't want to
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: do this anymore.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But, um, yeah, you know, it's crossed my mind,
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 3: but I love doing this and, um, you know, it's
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 3: cool to like, you guys are doing it too, you know? And, and, uh, what's,
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 3: I think the coolest thing for me with this is, um, and,
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 3: this is probably why I'll never stop is, you know,
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 3: like talking to the president and, and like heads of
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 3: state and like all that, that's cool, you know, but
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: what's really cool is being able to take somebody that
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 3: nobody's ever heard of, like the internet hasn't seen or
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 3: somebody that's doing something good that nobody's paying attention to
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 3: and sit them down in front of, six and a
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 3: half million people and be like, look at what this
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 3: dude's doing.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 3: You know, and then, and then it blows up, you know,
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: it just like you make, you can shine a spotlight
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 3: on somebody that's doing good that maybe isn't getting any
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 3: traction that, you know, that, that, that could be a really, uh,
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 3: positive influence on the world, you know, and, and they're
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 3: trying to make a living doing it. And then they
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 3: come on, a show like mine or like yours, and
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 3: now everybody knows who they are and it gets amplified
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 3: and all that good spreads into the world. And that's
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: the shit that like really means the most to me
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 3: is being able to, to, you know, enjoy success, but
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 3: also to bring it, bring other people up with you
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 3: and watch them flourish. as human beings and, and, and
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 3: make their, their impact on the world.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 1: You are, you have definitely gotten to that, uh, that
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: category of people will show up, your audience will show
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: up no matter what the, the guest is. And it
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: really just comes down to your interests and what you,
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: what you want to show the world. What is your
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: biggest interest right now?
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 2: The Bible. The Bible.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: Cause I, you were talking about, um, I think it
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: was with the clip I saw with Tucker about how,
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: That was, that was your thought. I don't know how
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: long ago that podcast was, but that was your thought process. Like,
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: how do I display the Bible for everyone to see?
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: But you were still trying to mull over how to
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: go about that process.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: Have you figured out that process of how you're going
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: to do that yet?
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 3: Yep. The first one's I'm interviewing tomorrow.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 3: Yep. And we're doing all a Genesis and it'll probably take,
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know, we're starting at 10 AM and we'll
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 3: probably be in there at 9 PM and we're going
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 3: to just go through.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: Still breaking all of it down.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, we'll cut it, but who do you got?
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 3: You can put it out.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: It's John Burke. John Burke?
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, John Burke. And he's just... He's awesome, dude. I've
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 3: had him on two or three times. And he talks
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 3: a lot about near-death experiences. It's fascinating stuff. So he
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 3: popped on my radar. I watched this documentary. And he goes...
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 3: all around the world and talks to all these different
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 3: people in different countries, different religions, everything, and then finds
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 3: the commonalities and near death experiences. And like at the
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 3: time when he wrote his book, I think it was
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 3: like over 1600, uh, case studies and like, it's fascinating
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 3: to see like, holy shit, like no matter who it is,
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 3: they're all having like the same type experiences. and, uh,
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 3: relates that to Christ and, and fascinating guy. And, uh,
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 3: and he, you know, I told you guys, I'm, you know,
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 3: I'm Catholic and that's kind of the realm I'm in now. And, um,
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 3: but I was like other perspectives and John reached out
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 3: and I sent him, like, I recorded that with a
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 3: priest who's a father, Rehill and, uh, who's in Tennessee. And, uh,
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 3: but I haven't released my psychedelic experience yet because I don't,
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 3: I'm just not ready, you know, for that to be out.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 3: But I sent it him a private link of it. And, uh,
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 3: he wrote me like a four page letter of what
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 3: he thinks is going on. And, and, uh, it was,
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 3: it was really good, but, uh, he's, he's, he's somewhat
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 3: of a mentor of mine. And, and, um, you know,
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: I wanted to, I don't want to have all Catholics on.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 3: And so I'm kicking it off with him. And we
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 3: were chatting this morning. He's ready to roll, man.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 2: That's powerful, man. As you're in the foxhole tomorrow for
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 2: 10 to 12 hours, how is that then going to
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: be released? Do you chop it down to a certain
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 2: amount of time?
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 3: No, dude. We don't chop anything down. So the only
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 3: times we chop something down, it either doesn't get released or– Uh,
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 3: if I think that person is, uh, nefarious or like,
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 3: you know, we have a lot of Delta guys on
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of, a lot of special operations guys. And
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 3: so if they, and that takes a lot, you know,
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 3: for somebody to come in and, and, and talk about
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 3: like their full blown career, like we touched on mine,
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 3: but we didn't get into anything specific. but that can
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 3: create a lot of paranoia for those guys. Like, Oh,
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I like revealed a tactic that
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 3: maybe is still classified or if I was on an
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 3: operation that's still classified. And so I always tell those
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 3: guys like, look, dude, just be open. And then like,
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 3: if something needs to be cut, as long as it's before,
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 3: you know, we release it, like it will be out.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 3: I don't want you to have to live with that
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 3: fucking paranoia for the rest of your life.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: How, how is the, um, like being a seal, like
• 2:14:54
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• 2:14:56
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• 2:14:58
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• 2:14:59
  Speaker 3: I think that kind of went out.
• 2:15:01
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• 2:15:03
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• 2:15:05
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• 2:15:08
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• 2:15:11
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• 2:15:14
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• 2:15:24
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• 2:15:25
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• 2:15:27
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• 2:15:30
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't really, I mean, that's
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 3: kind of a, I think that it is important that
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 3: we preserve history the way it happened in And it
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 3: is a huge recruiting tool for future generations that are
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 3: going into that. And I think that, you know, there's
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 3: a fine line and that there's a right way to
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 3: do it. And so, you know, I'm, I'm all for it. And,
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 3: and also like these guys have to, you know, a
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 3: lot of these guys, not all of them, some of
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 3: them are in it just for themselves and they want
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: the recognition and, but a lot of these guys are
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 3: doing it and it's, I mean, everybody knows about the
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 3: veteran suicide epidemic, you know, that's been going on for ever.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 3: And when somebody like gets that vulnerable and talks about,
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 3: you know, the ups and downs and all the missions
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 3: and what came after that and the suicide attempts and
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 3: like that shit saving more lives than anything else, more
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 3: lives than psychedelics, more lives than therapy, more lives than,
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 3: any of the, I don't know, 50 different methods or, or, or,
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 3: or avenues that, that veterans will, you know, paths that
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 3: they can go down on treatment centers and TBI clinics
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 3: and psychedelics and all this other shit. Like what really
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 3: saves people's lives in my opinion is the stories and
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 3: seeing like a guy like Tom Satterly, uh, who, you know,
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 3: was a Delta guy and, Somalia when Black Hawk Down
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 3: happened all the way like damn near to the end
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 3: of the Iraq war maybe even the end of the
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: Iraq war like like all that shit dude like he's
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 3: experienced all that like that you you you don't have
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 3: a career more impressive than that guy or a guy
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 3: like DJ Shipley or Alex West or um you know
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 3: there's just some phenomenal human beings that have experienced way,
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 3: way more than me. You know what I mean? And
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 3: to get like, I mean, they're at the pinnacle of
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 3: what you can do and, and to have a guy
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 3: like that, that all of the military looks up to,
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? That come out and talk
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 3: about his career highlights and then how shitty it got
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 3: afterwards with infidelity and addiction and suicide. And all of that.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 3: And then to see them pop out, you know, like
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 3: how low, how high it got, how low it got.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 3: And then now they're on a high again, like that
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 3: stuff is saving more lives than anything else, you know,
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 3: in these units, SEAL teams, Green Berets, Deltas, like dev group,
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 3: like none of them are doing anything to save their guys.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: You know, it's also like a sense of community too.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 1: Cause I feel like, I can't speak for it because
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 1: I never went and served, but people that go over
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: and serve, they go through these very unique experiences. They
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 1: come back and they have these horrible feelings and depression
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: and addiction, and they go and talk to a therapist.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 1: And I feel like the logical brain will go, well,
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 1: you have no idea what I saw, what I went through.
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: So by hearing stories of other people that are highly
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: decorated and have gone through a lot, it gives you
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: a sense of community and be like, oh, I'm not
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: the only one going through something.
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 3: It gives you hope because you see a guy that's
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 3: already done it.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: And you might be sitting at that bottom realizing like, oh,
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: this could, this doesn't have to be rock bottom. It
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 1: could be a trampoline to get back up to the top. So,
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, just me personally hearing the stories and not
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 1: having these types of traumas, like it's, it's a, it's
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: fascinating to hear about. And it's like inspirational in a
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: lot of ways to hear some of these guys you
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: have on your podcast as well. Cause some guys might
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: be in it for, you know, Being more famous for
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: all those things. But for me, it's like, I sit there,
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is unbelievable that people go across
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: and do these types of things. But we did put
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: a bookmark in something.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 3: Antarctica.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, Antarctica. Yeah. Is it true that you can't go
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 2: on Antarctica without a guide, without a guard?
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the rumor, but I've never tried.
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: Have you?
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 3: I haven't.
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: But it seems like you would need to be the guy.
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: It sounds like it's us three and Dusty Slay. Need
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: to be the four people to just take like a
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: session on 172 and just keep going straight.
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be funny if you could just get some
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 3: money together, charter a jet, and just see if it
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 3: could happen and be like, actually you can get there.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 1: We're sitting right fucking here.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: Get the eye black on, have coach Ryan get us
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: right for the mission.
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 3: Cause I don't know if anybody's actually tried it or
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 3: if those are all just rumors.
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: Cause I feel like if somebody's tried at this point,
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: if it is just a wall or whatever, like we
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 1: would find out pretty quickly what you thought of lizard people.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's, I just. Oh, I thought you sparked
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 1: up like, oh, you might have some belief in that.
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 3: I thought there was like, oh. No, I just, I'm
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 3: not into the alien stuff anymore. I don't think there's
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 3: anything to it.
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 1: What about giants?
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 3: Giants? I haven't dug into that, but I'm getting ready to.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 3: So they mentioned it in Genesis.
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cause there's, there's spots, there's spots out there in
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 2: the middle East, right? Or Europe?
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 1: They're supposedly, I've.
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 3: Heard like, I used to get these people emailing me
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 3: all the time about this Kandahar giant.
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 3: I've never seen it. I spent a lot of time
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 3: in Kandahar. I've never seen a Kandahar giant.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 1: Where's Kandahar?
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 3: Afghanistan.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 6: Will showed me a photo of them one time and
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 6: it was like the most pixelated, like insane photo that
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 6: just is 99% not real.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, but 1%.
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You never know, man. This might be a distasteful question,
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 1: but rank these. Aliens are real. What are we ranking?
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: How's he ranking confidently?
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 1: It's one, two, and three. This is conspiracy theories. Most
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: confident is one. That you're most confident about is one.
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 1: That is real.
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: Aliens are real. We'll probably put that at three. JFK
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: was an inside job. Epstein didn't kill himself. Epstein didn't
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 1: kill himself. Is number one.
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. JFK was an inside job.
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 1: Two and then aliens.
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 2: Aliens are real.
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: Aliens are three. Do we want to unpack?
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 2: On the aliens one, you're a no.
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 1: You're a no. He's a 0% confident in that. Aliens
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: are not real.
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: Is JFK one or are you one?
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 3: I would say one, one, three. There we go.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: Are we allowed to unpack any of this?
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 2: I'm with him. I don't know as much about JFK,
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 2: but the FC stuff, all the redactions that came out
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: when it was like the whole drain the swamp thing.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 2: And you got something that you ran on for the
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: entire term, all that stuff. And then when it was
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: finally happening, all the redactions that were in the stuff
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: to where you didn't know, you didn't really know anything.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 2: Then you talked about, hey, the stock market's doing well.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh no, bro.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 2: All the people, that's what we've been sitting in the
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 2: front row for. The Dow's at 500. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fascinating. I remember, where were we flying to?
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: And it was like, we were at 5.30 in the morning. Oh, yeah,
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 1: that's right. All of a sudden, we're rubbing our eyes,
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, Epstein's alive.
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 1: He's alive and out there. Do you think he's alive?
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man.
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 3: I don't think so, but it wouldn't surprise me.
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: It's all, yeah. I'll say that, too.
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 2: It would not surprise me.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 1: It is definitely fascinating. JFK, inside job?
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was an inside job. Just
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 3: the fact that they were supposed to release it all, right?
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 3: They were supposed to release it all.
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprising.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprising at all. I mean, have you been
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 1: to Dallas where they have all the conspiracy theorists out
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: there and they're all trying to sell their own tapes?
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 1: Where's this at? It's where JFK got shot.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: The grass, you know, it's the whole area. We went there,
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 1: we played Dallas in a Monday or Thursday night football game.
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 1: And we're like, oh, let's go to the site. So
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 1: we walked over there and they have whatever window, like
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 1: prop the way it was still. There's an X where
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 1: the first shot took place and an X where the
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: next shot took place. And then a bunch of people
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 1: that are essentially have their, they have their trifold carboards
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 1: with their pictures glued up. And they're like, this is
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 1: what really happened. Everybody's selling a different tape.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 1: It's a, it's a wild setup.
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: I'm looking something up.
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go ahead. What's the reason for giving out
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: gummy bears and gifts to all your guests? Oh, we
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 1: got something.
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is a heavy bag of gummy bears.
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 1: What do we got in there?
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 2: Vigilance Elite.
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 1: Gummy bears. Made in Michigan. Made in Michigan. Shout out Michigan.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 1: Two extras for the boys.
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: Pass them back for sure. Pass them back. Thank you.
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 3: Thank you, sir.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 1: So what is the reason behind the gummy bears?
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 3: So the reason behind the gummy bears, it started because
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 3: I couldn't, like, it took me a long time to
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 3: turn this into a real business. It was like two years.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 3: Like I had no advertisers, no nothing.
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: The gummy bear business or the podcast business?
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 3: The gummy bear business. So I was like, well, I
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 3: got to start selling my own stuff. And I love,
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 3: I used to teach tactics, you know, weapons and tactics
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 3: type shit. And so I looked around. I kind of
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 3: looked at what everybody was doing because it's a saturated market.
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, what am I going
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 3: to do different? Well, everybody in this industry has pretty
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 3: much made themselves a tough guy, like unapproachable. And people
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 3: are already scared to death to train with you as
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 3: a SEAL or whatever.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 2: They got the proteins. Yeah.
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 3: And it's like.
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 2: Talking to you, Jocko.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 3: You know... I don't think Jocko was in the weapons
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 3: and tactics industry, but it was all, anybody posted anything
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 3: is protein shakes and chicken breast. Like, this is all
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 3: I eat. And I'm like, dude, I'm not. I got
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 3: to make, one, I love candy and junk food. So
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 3: I would like post about it all the time. I
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 3: was like, this probably makes me approachable. And like, this
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 3: is just how I am. And so. later on when
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 3: I started the podcast, I was like, I got to make,
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 3: I got to pay the bill somehow. So I started
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 3: the gummy bear thing.
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 6: Nice.
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 2: Sean, gummy bear, Ryan. They are fire. They're good. I'm
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: a big gummy guy. This is quickly up the ranks.
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Something about gummies, man. I'm a gummy guy over
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: chocolate 10 times out of 10.
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 1: For sure. Talk about tactics. Sweet over chocolate?
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: Yep. Oh, yeah. I'm a chocolate bean boy. Just like
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 2: Jason Bourne over John Wick. No, bro.
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 1: Hold on. Hold on. We needed that.
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 2: We needed that.
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 1: We did need that. We did need that.
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 3: So good.
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 1: You trained Keanu Reeves for John Wick, correct?
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, briefly, that's not the bulk of this conversation
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 1: because there's been a big argument taking place in this
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 1: bus for years now. But how was Keanu to work with?
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 1: Because he looks incredible in the movies.
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Yeah.
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I had a small part of that, but I
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 3: probably had him for maybe an hour, an hour and
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 3: a half. And all I taught him was how to
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 3: kind of go through a threshold, meaning like when you're
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 3: clearing a room, how do you enter in, you know,
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 3: going through a doorway? Mm-hmm. And dude, he was locked on, man.
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 2: He was dialed in.
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 3: He was into it. Great student, if that's what you
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 3: want to call it. And like, he had a lot
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 3: of questions and he was just, he was, he was
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 3: locked in. Like he wanted to go through a threshold
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 3: the best he could. And like dedicated dude, like really passionate.
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 3: He was interested. It was, it was pretty cool to see.
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 3: I thought, you know, you don't know what, I don't
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 3: know what to think. You know, when somebody like that
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 3: comes around and it's like, Oh my God, I'd figured like, Oh,
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 3: I got to listen to this dipshit talk about going
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 3: through a doorway for this movie I'm doing. But he
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 3: was like zoned in all about it. And, uh, yeah.
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 3: So it was, it was pretty neat.
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Now, Jason Bourne, John Wick, you've seen the movies, correct?
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 1: In a fight. who's winning between Jason Bourne and John Wick?
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 2: Be real.
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, probably John Wick.
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 6: What?
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: Bang. No shot in hand-to-hand. No shot. Wrap it up.
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 3: But like, realistically, yes, that's gotta be Jason Bourne, right?
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, timeout. You're doing a great job playing
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 1: both sides of the fence. But let's lay this out.
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 1: John Wick, was it the fourth movie? He's on that staircase.
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 1: He gets his ass whipped for 35 minutes trying to
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: get up to the staircase.
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: He gets whooped every movie.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 1: Every movie.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: Say whatever y'all want, man.
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: Jason Bourne is always one step ahead of everybody.
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 2: He's on the phone.
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 1: Hey, your hair looks good or whatever he says at
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 1: the end of the first movie. Like, he is unbelievable.
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 1: And he always seems like John Wick. He had a
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: lot of people help him out in those movies. A
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 1: lot of people came and saved the day. But Jason Bourne,
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: he did that shit on his own.
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 3: A little more realistic.
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 2: Which more realistic?
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 3: Jason Bourne.
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 2: He said realistic, Jason Bourne.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 3: I think the best weapons handling scene in Hollywood. Have
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 3: you seen that movie Tom Cruise? Collateral with Tom Cruise?
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 1: I have not seen that movie.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 3: He does a magazine change in a suit. And they
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 3: show that shit in, I think it's either Buds or SQT, like,
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 3: You dissect that entire scene, because it's so perfect.
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 3: Like, he's so proficient at it. Like, dumps two guys.
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 1: Try to pull that clip up if you can, Jack.
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 9: John Wick in Hell Week, Will. We talking about the movies, man.
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 9: What movie is, like, the biggest load of bullshit? The
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 9: biggest load of bullshit?
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 1: That might be a tough one. Which one's the most realistic?
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, out of the military movies.
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 2: Which one do you find yourself kind of laughing at
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: a little too much?
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 3: I think, you know.
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 3: The one that I like the most that I think is–
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 3: I really like Black Hawk Down. I thought that was.
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 2: Really– Incredible movie. Incredible movie. What about the worst one?
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 3: The worst one?
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 1: Just chewing on the microphone.
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 3: The worst one that people would think is realistic?
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that.
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 3: You know, Benghazi, the 13 hours one was pretty good too.
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 3: That was pretty realistic. Even like the culture, they really
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 3: captured it in that movie. like the way the team
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 3: room is and like the relationship between the, the contractors and,
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 3: and the, uh, they call them blue badgers that say like, they,
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 3: they really like nailed that, uh, pretty good. Let's see.
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 3: I don't watch a lot of these cause I, you know,
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 3: you check that terminal list. Yeah, a little bit, but
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 3: I haven't watched enough to have an opinion on that. Um, it's, it's,
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 3: I'm not big into these just because that's kind of
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 3: where I lived. But let's see. The one that's... Rattle
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 3: a couple off.
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 2: American Sniper.
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 3: 12 Strong.
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 1: 12 Strong. I haven't seen that one. That's like World
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: War II. Lone Survivor.
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 3: Warfare.
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 2: Warfare.
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: Fury.
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 3: Sounds like.
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: Tropic Thunder.
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know.
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 2: I would say like- I believe.
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 1: That was from your wife, Sicario.
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 2: Sicario's a good one.
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 3: I would say that- Just throwing Tropic Thunder? The Jason
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 3: Bourne movies are probably the most unrealistic that people would
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 3: think are realistic.
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 2: Okay. Man, another shot to Jason Bourne.
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 1: Over John Wick?
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 3: Well, I think John Wick, everybody knows that's completely unrealistic.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, I just want to make sure that was on record.
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: You read the transcript. Everybody knows we're having fun. We're
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: in a good spot, JP.
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 3: I think we're talking movies that people think might be realistic,
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 3: but aren't. I think the Jason Bourne series would be
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 3: the one that just doesn't happen.
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 1: How many layers of Jason Bourne? When do we get
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: to the real? How undercover? Are there stuff happening? as
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: one guy in some random remote country that I can't
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 1: pronounce right now, saving the world, possibly at this moment.
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 1: There are.
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 3: People out there that are similar to that, but like,
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 3: not Jason Bourne, but there are people that are out
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 3: there that are, basically their whole life is classified.
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 2: No way. Are there guys out there that could pull
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: off Liam Neeson and take.
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 9: Him?
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 2: He pops a gummy bear in his mouth.
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 1: This has got to be the worst podcast you've ever done.
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: This might be the worst podcast I've ever done.
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 3: Joe Kemp was a badass.
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 2: Where's Joe Kemp? He had him on a couple of times.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 1: What about Joe Kiriakow?
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 6: Hold on.
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: John Kiriakow?
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know much about him, but somebody that's
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 3: the real deal is Joe Kent.
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: If you Joe Kent?
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 2: Kent.
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 5: Ah.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 6: Ah.
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: Now, who was Joe Kent's background here?
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 3: Joe Kent.
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 2: I'm going to follow him on Instagram.
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 3: Well, he just left the administration not too long ago.
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 3: But he was a Green Beret and then got into
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 3: a program that's not out there yet. And like, it's
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 3: still very under the radar. And then started contracting for
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 3: CIA after that. But him and his wife was killed
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 3: in Afghanistan by a suicide bomber with a friend of
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 3: mine uh scotty works oh yeah but uh yeah joe
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 3: kent is he's done he's probably as close as you
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 3: get to jace moran damn joe.
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 2: Kent are you familiar with pub g no how about
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 2: how about warzone on call of.
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 3: Duty oh yeah where you get.
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 2: Dropped on an island the last one survives.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah dude i suck at call of duty you play that.
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 2: No not called i used to play pub g a
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 2: lot a lot I do quite a lot. I do not.
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 2: Say you get dropped on an island and there's only
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 2: one survivor and you're dropped at different parts of the island.
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 2: And you get, you know, maybe you got to, maybe
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 2: you got to find equipment, pick it up. Maybe you
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 2: already got it. You, Jocko, David Goggins, who's making it
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 2: off the island?
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 3: It's only one of us?
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 2: Only one.
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 3: Obviously I'm going to pick me.
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, smart.
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 2: Who you think you're one-on-one with at the end.
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 1: Who's the boss?
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 3: Probably Jocko.
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 6: Oh, really?
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 2: I would think Jocko, too.
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 1: Goggins might be a little too stiff.
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 1: Goggins is just running laps around the perimeter. Giving up
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 1: his location because he's yelling all the time. He's just
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 1: running the perimeter calling us pussies. He's just got a
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: five and a half inch seam short, just jogging. I'm
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 1: out here because you're not.
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 2: As he's running.
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 1: By the way, I'm a fan of Goggins too. But
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 1: that should be so funny.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 2: He's running. Somebody's filming.
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 1: You and Jock are in hand-to-hand combat.
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 2: Stay hard. That just gets picked off by Sean Ryan
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 2: in a drink.
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 1: He's like hitting the rubber balls on the beach.
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 2: That was your last video.
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 4: Oh shit.
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 1: Before we get to the last question, is there somebody
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 1: like in these, their whole life is classified. You take
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 1: away people with the unique set of skills they have
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: and you took them and you put them in the UFC.
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: Do you think they'd handle business? No problem. Like, are
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: they that like above everybody else and hand to hand
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 1: and all those things?
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: UFC is handling business.
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. Well, last question. It's always an awkward question
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 1: because you haven't been drinking for four and a half years.
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 2: Did he just quit? Yeah, he's done.
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: This is our hell week. He dropped out. He rung
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 1: the bell on us.
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 1: So we know that anyone would do anything for an
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 1: ice cold Bud Light. What's something that Sean Ryan would
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 1: do anything for? Can't say family.
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 3: Anything for. You can't say family? You can't say family.
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 3: It's got to be a novelty.
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 1: For the sake of this exercise, we'll say no.
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: Some people have said, do you want some examples?
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 1: Some people have said, go to space. Uh, Steve Rinella,
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 1: he said he would love to, uh, make this documentary
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 1: that he wouldn't tell us what it was about, but
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: he's like, Oh, before I die, I want to make
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 1: this documentary about X, Y, and Z. Uh, Brock Bowers
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 1: tied in for the Raiders. So let's love a steak dinner. Um,
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 1: who is Josh Pate said he'd love to go back
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 1: in time and see dinosaurs. So there you can kind
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 1: of whatever you want.
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 9: Hmm.
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe have a Fortune 500 gummy bear company.
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 3: Anything I want. But not family.
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 1: Can't say family. I'd like to.
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 3: I'd like to be at the Last Supper.
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: Nice. Who's the guy that....
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 2: Judas?
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 3: Kick his ass.
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 1: Would you beat his ass? Yeah, I would.
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 3: I would beat his.
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 1: That's a butterfly effect situation, though.
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 2: What if?
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: You don't know what's going to happen, right?
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 6: You have to imagine Jesus would look at you and
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 6: tell you the way that you would deny him, though,
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 6: which would be a hard, hard thing to do at
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 6: the same time.
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Jesus would probably look at you and be like,
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 1: I already know.
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Don't.
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 1: Then you have to sit at dinner.
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 3: Don't beat his ass.
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 3: I know what you're thinking.
• 2:39:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 1: You have to sit there and just eat whatever they're
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 1: eating for supper. Bread, wine, right?
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 3: I'm following.
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 1: I'm following. And just stare this dude down the whole time.
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 1: Knowing he's about to do the worst thing possible. Could
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 1: you control yourself?
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 3: I try to. Watch out for that. Yeah. It's all
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 3: this crazy stuff.
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 1: Well, what would you do? It's a great question.
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 2: What would I do?
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, you just said the last supper. He did
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 1: the thing to me that he did to you earlier.
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 1: He asked me a question. He asked me what I
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 1: would do anything for. His answer was The Last Supper.
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 3: To be at The Last Supper.
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: To be at The Last Supper.
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 2: That's a good answer.
• 2:40:45
  Speaker 1: To be there.
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 3: I would gut the mainstream media. Just fucking wipe it out.
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 1: Wipe it out.
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 3: Starting with who?
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 4: Us.
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 2: Starting with Buster.
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 1: With the voice.
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 3: Um.
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 1: What would you do anything for?
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 3: I can't say family.
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 4: Me?
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Oscars to win a ranked game. Yeah.
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 2: If we could just get Nebraska to win a ranked
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 2: game in a natty, I'd do a, you know.
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 2: I'd do a lot for that.
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You do the thing that we usually, yeah.
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just top of mind. What would I
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 2: do anything for? There's not a lot, honestly.
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anything I would say would just sound so childish
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 1: compared to what you just said. Gutting the mainstream media
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 1: and going to the Last Supper.
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 2: Dude, live your truth. One that was sick that we've
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 2: had before is like going back to Dinosaur Times, right?
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 3: No, it was Josh Bate.
• 2:41:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh said that. You go back and get around
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 2: some dinosaurs. Is that the best one you've heard? No,
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 2: what is the best one you've heard?
• 2:41:58
  Speaker 1: I would do anything to control time.
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 3: That's a good one.
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 1: That's what I would do.
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 2: We've gotten caught in this wrinkle though. I know.
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 2: It's like, what are the rules?
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 1: I have a stance that the best superpower to have
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 1: is essentially, like there's a movie called Clock Stoppers. And
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 1: then obviously the movie Click with Adam Sandler. Like the
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 1: greatest power to have would be to do anything you
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 1: want with time. Like I'm, something as simple as like,
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 1: if I'm a little sleepy right now, I can pause
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 1: all of this. Don't take a nap.
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 3: If you had one wish, what would it be?
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 1: I love this podcast.
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 2: One wish, what would it be?
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 1: And nothing's off limits?
• 2:42:32
  Speaker 3: Nothing's off limits.
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, it would be.
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 3: Infinite wishes. That's a good one.
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 2: Get that one wish. Get infinite wishes. Man, what would
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 2: I do?
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 1: My one wish is that my kids are fulfilled. At
• 2:42:57
  Speaker 1: the end of their lives. Like they feel like they
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 1: did everything they were supposed to do. That's what I want.
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 3: You didn't say family.
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: He didn't say that. I said I couldn't say family.
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 2: I wish that I could touch any book and just
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 2: have all that information, have it regurgitated just by touching
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 2: the book.
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 1: Mine's the time thing. I think that is.
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 2: Manipulate time. Yeah.
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 1: Be able to, yeah, go back in time. I can
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 1: change anything I want and go forward in time. I
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 1: can pause time. I can slow down time.
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 2: All of it.
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 3: Love it. Would you be scared of what you see?
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't go to the future too much, I don't think.
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 2: Too much. You'd taste it. It'd be like a gateway drug.
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 1: It would be like a gateway drug. It also would
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 1: be interesting to see the butterfly effect. If I were
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 1: to go back in time and change something about my life,
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 1: how different the spiraling of this happens in my life
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 1: so something crazy happens on the other side of the world.
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 1: That'd be interesting.
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 2: But if you could control time too, then I feel
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 2: like you would take time for granted because it's like
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 2: I have control of time. Mm-hmm.
• 2:43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you'll see them.
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 2: So you never think too deeply about anything until you
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 2: just need it to. Be like, all right, let me
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 2: go fix or let me go do this. Yeah, fair.
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 1: I still am fully on board with time.
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 2: I'll sacrifice. Do you think you'd be.
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 6: Tempted though, like when you're going through something really hard
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 6: to speed it up?
• 2:44:16
  Speaker 1: No, but I would be tempted to go back and
• 2:44:18
  Speaker 1: fix how I got in that position.
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 6: Which could also be a problem though. Because of what
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 6: you would learn if you went through it.
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 3: Do you think eventually you would go back and undo
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 3: everything that you did once you had control of time
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 3: because you realize how fucked up everything is?
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, then you want to release yourself of the power.
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 3: Because it could create an entirely new reality.
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 3: That's the butterfly space.
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 1: Time space continuum. Maybe I would just stay super surface
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 1: level with all my time stuff. I'm sleepy. I grab
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 1: a nap. Jack and I go to Vegas. I just
• 2:44:50
  Speaker 1: go 15 seconds in the future, figure out if it
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 1: was banker or player, nuke that, walk out with 3
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 1: million bucks.
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 6: Solo dinner, not wait for your food to come out.
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's it. getting excited about like maybe Christmas is
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 1: the next day so I just fast forward to get
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 1: to there like what we get what Santa bring it
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 1: is you know who taught us that Adam Sandler have
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 1: you seen click no dude you need to go check
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 1: out that film yeah all right when's the last time
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 1: you cried not long ago good it's good to get
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 1: those out.
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 6: That'll be the trailer question.
• 2:45:33
  Speaker 2: Wait, did his wife say something?
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 3: No, she's just laughing.
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, she's laughing. When's the last time you cried? No comment.
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 2: No comment from the Raptors.
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 1: Should we do some fan questions to get out of here?
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got one here from Cole Carson 3. Compare
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 2: pranks in the locker room and the barracks. The dumbest
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 2: things that you've seen guys do. I kind of butchered that.
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 1: Talk about CTE and how the NFL treats it. Yeah,
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 1: those are like two different parts right there. Yeah, are
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 1: there pranks going on with the boys when you're overseas?
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 1: What's a fun little one that used to take place?
• 2:46:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know if any of them are fun. It's
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 3: basically hazing.
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:46:18
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 2: What's the worst hazing you did?
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 3: Do you know what a happy hat is?
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 5: No.
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 2: No?
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 1: No, what's a happy hat? Okay, a happy hat. is
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 1: when you take a.
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 3: Roll of riggers tape or duct tape and you tape
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 3: somebody basically from the nose all the way up and
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 3: then you tape a handle on top of their head
• 2:46:38
  Speaker 3: and then tape around that and then you take the handle.
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 1: And you just....
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 3: So your head's just getting yanked around, it's impossible to
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 3: control anything.
• 2:46:52
  Speaker 2: And so basically the boys will come up to you
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 2: and say like, we got to give you the happy hat.
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 1: What caused you to get happy hatted? And have you
• 2:46:59
  Speaker 1: been happy hatted?
• 2:46:59
  Speaker 3: Just being a new guy. No, I actually have not
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 3: been happy hatted.
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 3: But I remember we, I told you we were born
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 3: in Afghanistan and it was Halloween. And so we made
• 2:47:11
  Speaker 3: a happy hat and drew little jack-o'-lanterns on their faces
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 3: and then, you know, them around and did that for
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 3: hours on end.
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 1: You said on their faces. There was a handful of them.
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 2: What kind of hazing did you get?
• 2:47:31
  Speaker 3: I just got my ass beat.
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 2: Just jumped?
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 2: Like at nighttime while you're sleeping?
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 10: Damn.
• 2:47:39
  Speaker 1: Like full metal jacket.
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 3: Not that bad.
• 2:47:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 3: Not that bad. Bars of soap. I had it coming.
• 2:47:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, you had it coming. What was the worst thing
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 2: you did to deserve that? They would let you get
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 2: cocky and then tune you up.
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 3: Humble you. Yeah.
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 2: I just got my ass beat.
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 1: If you had to draft an NFL starting lineup of
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 1: elite military and government operators, you've had on your show,
• 2:48:09
  Speaker 1: who is the first round pick and why? And what
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 1: position would they play?
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute, what?
• 2:48:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough one. So of all the people
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 1: you've had on your podcast.
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 2: The elite military and government operators that you've had on
• 2:48:21
  Speaker 2: the show, who would be your first round pick? Why
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 2: and what position would you put them at?
• 2:48:28
  Speaker 1: You just worry about who your favorite person is that
• 2:48:31
  Speaker 1: you've had on and why, and then we'll put them
• 2:48:33
  Speaker 1: in a position on the field.
• 2:48:36
  Speaker 3: Hmm. I would say, so there's got to be a
• 2:48:43
  Speaker 3: big guy if he's going to the NFL. So I
• 2:48:45
  Speaker 3: would probably say Shipley. DJ Shipley.
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 2: DJ Shipley.
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 1: DJ Shipley. You brought him up. That's the third time
• 2:48:52
  Speaker 1: you've said his name.
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 2: Have you had on?
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 3: He just visited, so he's on top of mind.
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He did the right thing.
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 2: Have you had on Joe Kent?
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 3: I've had Joe Kent on a couple times. Sounds like he's-
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think he would do well on the football field.
• 2:49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Fair enough.
• 2:49:05
  Speaker 1: This is him right here?
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 2: This specimen right here.
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. He's going to be fine.
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 1: And he's going to be fine at the middle line
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 1: back there. Jesus Christ. He's got to be on all
• 2:49:14
  Speaker 1: the peptides. I don't know what he's on. Yeah. Whatever
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 1: it is, we need it.
• 2:49:18
  Speaker 2: We need it.
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 1: How big is he?
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 2: How big of a boy is he?
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 1: How tall is he?
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know.
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe. We talking like six foot? Maybe.
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 2:49:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:49:30
  Speaker 1: 5'11, it says.
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 2: Zach Thomas. I mean, that right there. He'd be a safety.
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 2: 5'11, around 200 pounds.
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 1: Headhunting. Box safety. He's not worried about covering anybody. Who
• 2:49:44
  Speaker 1: would make a better soldier out of the boys? And
• 2:49:48
  Speaker 1: I know it's Willie C though. That's Willie C. I'm Taylor.
• 2:49:52
  Speaker 1: Which one of us, based on the small sample size
• 2:49:54
  Speaker 1: of knowing us, would make a better soldier? And I
• 2:50:02
  Speaker 1: want you to know this will affect our relationship.
• 2:50:08
  Speaker 3: Jeez. Probably you. Thank you.
• 2:50:15
  Speaker 6: Probably.
• 2:50:15
  Speaker 2: I would say that too.
• 2:50:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 2:50:18
  Speaker 1: You wrestled. He's a Missouri boy too.
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 3: Taylor's 6'7. He's a tree.
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 1: I'm a tree, dude.
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 3: You've done most of the talking. I have.
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 2: He'd be a great interrogator.
• 2:50:30
  Speaker 1: You would yeah no no i agree with that it's
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 1: fucking yeah where is she.
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 2: Have you seen batman how realistic is batman.
• 2:50:42
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah hey that felt good and i know i
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 1: kind of like where would you have where would you
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 1: have that's the biggest way he goes you i'm like
• 2:50:50
  Speaker 1: oh fuck yeah dude he's playing right now what type
• 2:50:52
  Speaker 1: of operator would you have a sea chess what does
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 1: that be like on the team Like, you know how
• 2:50:57
  Speaker 1: we got positions, like O-linemen, you got linebackers, quarterbacks, like- I.
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 3: Would say Waterboy and Magazine Loader.
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, dude. I love the shit out of magazines.
• 2:51:13
  Speaker 2: Here's your magazines, man.
• 2:51:16
  Speaker 1: Is that all the fan questions we got? Yeah, that's all.
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 2: Do you guys have any questions?
• 2:51:22
  Speaker 4: I'm curious about the potential- re-involvement in the war in
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 4: iran and the bombings that could take place this week
• 2:51:29
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of things globally going on with netanyahu
• 2:51:33
  Speaker 4: and the the government race over there i got a
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 4: piece so bad but i'm interested in that thoughts.
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 8: In this and what's going on and we should be
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 8: involved if we should yeah no.
• 2:51:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think we should be involved at all i don't.
• 2:51:50
  Speaker 1: Mitch you had one Yeah. Kind of not, not as
• 2:51:53
  Speaker 1: deep as that.
• 2:51:54
  Speaker 3: How do you get, like you mentioned that all of the,
• 2:51:57
  Speaker 3: like a lot of the guys you've had on your
• 2:51:58
  Speaker 3: podcast are not as big and they haven't gotten like
• 2:52:00
  Speaker 3: this light that they may deserve. How do you go
• 2:52:02
  Speaker 3: about finding those people? Do you have a team that
• 2:52:04
  Speaker 3: does that? Are you aware of these guys? Well, I
• 2:52:07
  Speaker 3: used to, yeah, I mean, I have a team, but
• 2:52:12
  Speaker 3: now it's, now it's kind of word of mouth, but I,
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 3: it used to be me kind of, I would eye
• 2:52:16
  Speaker 3: people up and, and kind of see what they're about and, and,
• 2:52:22
  Speaker 3: how they are, you know, and if I'm really looking
• 2:52:24
  Speaker 3: for somebody, like if I'm going to do that kind
• 2:52:27
  Speaker 3: of an expose on somebody, then I'm looking for somebody
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 3: that's going to, you know, take what they get out
• 2:52:32
  Speaker 3: of it, which is going to be a lot and, uh,
• 2:52:36
  Speaker 3: and kind of pass that down to the next guy,
• 2:52:39
  Speaker 3: you know, to keep it going. And so some people
• 2:52:41
  Speaker 3: I'll track for like a year, you know, just to
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 3: see they start getting exposure. How do they handle it?
• 2:52:48
  Speaker 3: You know, things like that. And then, and then I'll
• 2:52:51
  Speaker 3: invite them on. But now it's, it's word of mouth. So.
• 2:52:56
  Speaker 3: Have there been people that you were following and you
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 3: didn't like per se how they were acting? You're like, okay,
• 2:53:00
  Speaker 3: I don't want them on. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:53:03
  Speaker 1: Who's a, who's a guest that you haven't had on
• 2:53:06
  Speaker 1: that you really want to have on? Who's a guest
• 2:53:15
  Speaker 1: that I haven't had on?
• 2:53:16
  Speaker 3: Let me think. I'm trying to think of a good,
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 3: I would say the Pope, but Let me.
• 2:53:24
  Speaker 2: You think you'd do it?
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 3: There's this guy. Do I think he would do it?
• 2:53:32
  Speaker 3: Probably not. I don't know what he has to gain
• 2:53:35
  Speaker 3: by doing it. But. I'm trying to think of like
• 2:53:47
  Speaker 3: an operator. who i'd like to shout out but you
• 2:53:56
  Speaker 3: know i'm just looking for the next guy you know
• 2:53:58
  Speaker 3: that's that's i need some new generation some younger guys
• 2:54:03
  Speaker 3: yeah that you know because like most of the people
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 3: that i talk to are dinosaurs now you know warfare
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 3: has changed so much so somebody that is very familiar
• 2:54:14
  Speaker 3: with like all the drone that's going on and like
• 2:54:17
  Speaker 3: all the new technology that they're utilizing and like there's
• 2:54:21
  Speaker 3: just so much coming out you know what i mean
• 2:54:24
  Speaker 3: and uh i would like to talk to somebody that's
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