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UK Column News - 26th November 2025 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon.
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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the twenty sixth November, just after one o'clock.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to UK column News. I'm your host Mike Robinson.
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Speaker 2: Joining me via livelink are Charles Mallett and Vanessa Billy.
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Speaker 2: Later in the program, we're going to be covering the
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Speaker 2: fact that we're going to war unless it's stopped. We'll
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Speaker 2: have news from Syria and UAE, and we'll have the
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Speaker 2: littst on digital identity and also the mhra's response to
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Speaker 2: the recent CDC announcement on vaccines. We'll begin today with
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Speaker 2: the budget and the security lockdown apparently that's surrounding that.
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Speaker 3: Charles, Yeah, good afternoon, Mike, Good afternoon. All. Yes, an
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Speaker 3: evolving situation, I think would be the way to put it.
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Speaker 3: And there are obviously a lot of things that are
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Speaker 3: going to fall out of today's budget. A lot are
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Speaker 3: already known. But the issue that we're going to concentrate
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Speaker 3: on is the inheritance tax issue and farmers. Now to
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Speaker 3: point out that the BBC, who've been running water wall
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Speaker 3: coverage of this issue for some time today have not
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Speaker 3: mentioned farmers at all. No great surprise there, but it
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Speaker 3: does make it look like there is a political agenda
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Speaker 3: at play in more ways than one now, just to
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Speaker 3: recap on the issue at hand. In last year's budget,
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Speaker 3: it was announced that the inheritance tax threshold would be
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Speaker 3: amended in order that it would capture in effect a
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Speaker 3: vast number of landowners and business owners who were previously unaffected.
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Speaker 3: And part of the problem this goes back to the
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Speaker 3: initial change in nineteen ninety two. But part of the
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Speaker 3: problem is the lack of warning given and that this
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Speaker 3: is due to kick in in April twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 3: giving people very little time to plan around inheritance the
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Speaker 3: issues pertaining to inheritance tax if they are to in
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Speaker 3: some way avoid it now. Farmers have been in discussion
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Speaker 3: with the Metropolitan Police Service for a number of months,
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Speaker 3: planning protests to coincide with the budget day today and
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Speaker 3: yesterday evening on x the met Police put out a
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Speaker 3: tweet suggesting that the situation was beginning to change. Now
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Speaker 3: they've updated this further, but they're saying that there are
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Speaker 3: suggestions that they've banned farmers protesting tomorrow and that that's
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Speaker 3: not correct. But they have nonetheless taken it upon themselves
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Speaker 3: to move the goalposts and they've put up a policing
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Speaker 3: operation update or a statement in which they say that
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Speaker 3: conditions have been put in place to prevent protesters from
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Speaker 3: bringing vehicles, including tractors or other agricultural vehicles to the protest. Now,
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Speaker 3: there are several issues that run alongside this, not least
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Speaker 3: the fact that farmers did congregate in Westminster a year
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Speaker 3: ago without incident, or certainly without any significant incident. Just
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Speaker 3: as an aside, it is interesting to note, of course,
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Speaker 3: that neither the congestion charge nor the uless scheme are
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Speaker 3: applicable to tractors or agricultural vehicles by being specialist vehicles.
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Speaker 3: But there has been this eleventh hour change, and indeed
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Speaker 3: there's now from police a Section fourteen Public Order at
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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty six been put into effect. Now the police
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Speaker 3: are saying the decision was taken due to the serious
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Speaker 3: disruption they made cause to the local area, including businesses,
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Speaker 3: emergency services and Londoners going about their day. Now that
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Speaker 3: would appear to be at a discrepancy or at odds
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Speaker 3: with what has happened over the course of the last
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Speaker 3: year since Rachel Brieves made this announcement last year, And obviously,
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Speaker 3: as one can imagine, there is a certain amount of
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Speaker 3: social media traffic coming out of the event. Now as
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Speaker 3: to exactly what has been happening, whether there are arrests
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Speaker 3: being made, which does seem to be the case. But
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Speaker 3: earlier this morning John Lamont MP for Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk,
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Speaker 3: was on the ground and put this short video on Twitter.
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Speaker 4: We have hundreds, if not thousands of farmers trying to
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Speaker 4: come to Westminster to protest against Labour's family farm tax
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Speaker 4: and shockingly, the police, the Metropolitan Police, have banned these
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Speaker 4: farmers for making their voices heard. Whitehall is completely shut down.
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Speaker 4: All these tractors are piling up in and around Westminster.
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Speaker 4: These farmers want to have their voices heard. They want
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Speaker 4: to persuade the Labor government to think again. Now at
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Speaker 4: a time when there's all sorts of demonstrations taking place
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Speaker 4: across London each week, it is extraordinary the Metropolitan Police
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Speaker 4: and the government have made this decision. They are shutting
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Speaker 4: down the voices of farmers and they need to be heard.
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Speaker 4: We could stand with our farmers and try and get
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Speaker 4: this family farm tax reversed.
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Speaker 3: The point that brings out there, really all that needs
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Speaker 3: to be explored is the fact that this change was
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Speaker 3: so last minute, so Farmers have been committed to this
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Speaker 3: as well as a number of other supporters, either with
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Speaker 3: or without vehicles. And the problem that the Metropolitan Police
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Speaker 3: Services are creating is one of its own making, in
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Speaker 3: that they are suggesting that people can only gather on
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Speaker 3: foot by Richmond Terrace, just opposite Downing Street. And of
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Speaker 3: course what they will actually do, in effect is create
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Speaker 3: exactly the problem that they seek to put to one
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Speaker 3: side by preventing tractors, because of course tractors are coming
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Speaker 3: into London anyway, where are they actually going to go.
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Speaker 3: All of this is pointing very strongly towards the operational
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Speaker 3: independence of police being seriously challenged, and that pertains to
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Speaker 3: the very heart of protest itself. So by interesting coincidents.
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Speaker 3: Just last month, the House of Commons put out briefing
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Speaker 3: paper on police powers, which we'll just bring up on
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Speaker 3: screen now, and in particular this deals with the legislation
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Speaker 3: concerning control of this sort of event, the Public Order
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Speaker 3: Act nineteen eighty six, the Police Crime Sentencing Courts Act
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two and the Public Order Act twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 3: But it's today, as I said earlier, the public Order
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Speaker 3: Act nineteen eighty six, Section fourteen, and in effect, it's
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Speaker 3: as though a police officer has taken the decision that
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Speaker 3: there could be a risk of serious public disorder, damage
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Speaker 3: to property, serious disruption to life, or sorry to the
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Speaker 3: life of the community. Now this is where we look
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Speaker 3: ahead slightly to the Crime and Policing Bill, which of
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Speaker 3: course we've talked about some time, many times in the
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Speaker 3: recent months, and in particular the offenses that are coming
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Speaker 3: concerning protests. When we consider that the scope of digital
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Speaker 3: identity is broadening all the time, and indeed the use
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Speaker 3: of facial recognition life facial recognition, and of course this
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Speaker 3: bill plans to bring in the offenses of concealing identity,
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Speaker 3: and the cumulative impact of disruption very relevant to today
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Speaker 3: because of course if the issue persists, so indeed might
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Speaker 3: the protests. But this could constitute a cumulative disruption because
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Speaker 3: it's being carried out on more than one occasion. Now,
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Speaker 3: the farmer's position, in effect is that if their demands
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Speaker 3: are not met today, then they can cause big problems
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Speaker 3: for the government by turning off the taps in effect
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Speaker 3: with regard to the food supply, and it does look
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Speaker 3: very much like the government has been planning around this eventuality. Now,
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Speaker 3: food security in the United Kingdom is probably around fifty
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Speaker 3: percent at best in terms of self sufficiency. So it
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Speaker 3: seems like no coincidence that the UK and the EU
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Speaker 3: have struck a deal recently which we'll just look at now,
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Speaker 3: and that concerns effectively sort of greasing the skids with
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Speaker 3: regards to trade going back and forth between the UK
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Speaker 3: and the EU, and in effect the same thing has
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Speaker 3: happened in the United States, they say. For the EU,
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Speaker 3: certainly they say the aim of the agreement is to
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Speaker 3: reduce the burden of trading agricultural products between the EU
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Speaker 3: and the UK. As far as the United States is concerned,
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Speaker 3: is called the Economic Prosperity Deal signed back in June,
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Speaker 3: and that deals in effect with many of the same issues.
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Speaker 3: Now again, I think one point to make on the
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Speaker 3: politicization of this issue is that whilst it appears the
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Speaker 3: operational independence of police has been challenged, it's interesting to
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Speaker 3: make contrast between the outcry there was when Maccabi Tel
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Speaker 3: Aviv fans were prohibited from coming to an aston Villa
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Speaker 3: football match. Absolute outcry across not just the mainstream media
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Speaker 3: but also government whereas now a legitimate section of British
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Speaker 3: society is having its ability to protest seriously compromised, and
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Speaker 3: yet not a single voice has come from either the
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Speaker 3: mainstream media or the government to date to suggest that
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Speaker 3: there's an issue here. Now to find out more about
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Speaker 3: the background to this, and indeed how the public can
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Speaker 3: take direct action by dealing with farmers in order to
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Speaker 3: make those vital economic connections, I point you towards the
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Speaker 3: UK Column website UK Farming Fighting for its Future. Of
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Speaker 3: course there'll be links to this in the show notes,
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Speaker 3: and indeed to go to the farming section on the
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Speaker 3: UK Column website, where there is a host of information
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Speaker 3: about all the various issues that beset farmers. And indeed
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Speaker 3: Will Coles Hill is on the ground and we hope
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Speaker 3: to be able to show a report from him during extra.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Charles.
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Speaker 2: I think out of that, the bit that I find
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Speaker 2: most hilarious is the Crime Policing Bill creates this offense
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Speaker 2: of concealing identity, bearing in mind the requirement to do
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Speaker 2: exactly that just a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 3: Well absolutely, and in fact not just that, but it's
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Speaker 3: already it's a crime anyway. The crime Disorder aged nineteen
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Speaker 3: ninety eight has exactly the same provision. So it's absolutely
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Speaker 3: absurd in so many levels. But I mean, of course
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Speaker 3: you're completely right, and we just wait for the next
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Speaker 3: health scare before that gets repealed or sort of scaled
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Speaker 3: back or change in some way.
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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Okay, Well, look at the beginning of the program,
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Speaker 2: I suggested that we are going to war, and I'm
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Speaker 2: going to explain why I'm saying that now. So here
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Speaker 2: we have the Royal United Services Institute. They've just held
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Speaker 2: their Long War Conference twenty twenty five yesterday. Now russi's
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Speaker 2: Military Sciences team is launching a flagship program Long War,
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Speaker 2: they say, exploring how the UK and its allies can
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Speaker 2: sustain conflict beyond the first battle with the prospect of
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Speaker 2: peer conflict on the horizon. This initiative asks how forces
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Speaker 2: could be mobilized, reconstituted and sustained across the protracted industrial
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Speaker 2: skill war. So Charles Vanessa will get comments from you, Charles.
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Speaker 2: First of all, I mean we're now talking about a
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Speaker 2: protracted industrial skill war. This is language, you know, invoking
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Speaker 2: the First and Second World Wars here, and they are
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Speaker 2: talking about this as if it's an inevitability.
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Speaker 3: They are, absolutely and I think this has been the
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Speaker 3: way that the language has been shifting over well at
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Speaker 3: least a decade, if not more. And with the as
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Speaker 3: far as the British Armed Forces are concerned with effectively
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Speaker 3: the drop off of the operational commitments, particularly in Iraq
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Speaker 3: and Afghanistan, there has been on one side of it
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Speaker 3: sort of scratching about and wondering what exactly the jobs
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Speaker 3: will be in future. But of course the other side
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Speaker 3: of it is the defense or the war industry, and
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Speaker 3: indeed what's been written into the Strategic Defense Review this
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Speaker 3: year predicated on this idea that Russia presents an existential
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Speaker 3: threat and therefore we need to mobilize, but via spending
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Speaker 3: an enormous amount of money on lethal equipment with which
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Speaker 3: to take on the mantle of this eternal war.
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Speaker 2: Well we'll talk more about that in one second, Fanessa,
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Speaker 2: just before I move on, have you got any thoughts
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Speaker 2: on that point?
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Speaker 5: No, I just I find the language extremely disturbing and
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Speaker 5: sort of odd really, because we've throttled back in the
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Speaker 5: UK on our military capability, So how on earth do
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Speaker 5: they believe that they're going to be able to run
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Speaker 5: on an industrial scale war, unless, of course, just popped
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Speaker 5: in my head, unless, of course that war is not
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Speaker 5: against other countries but against its own population.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's see if we can answer one or two
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Speaker 2: of these questions. So if we just pop that back
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Speaker 2: on screen again. Keynote speakers included General Sir Richard Barrons,
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Speaker 2: who was the Commander of Joint Forces Command from April
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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen until his retirement in April twenty sixteen. But
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Speaker 2: he's much better known the UK coluin viewers and listeners
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Speaker 2: as best buddy of Chris Donnelly, former NATO advisor who
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Speaker 2: set up and ran the Integrity Initiative Anti Russia propaganda
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Speaker 2: machine on behalf of the Foreign Office.
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Speaker 1: And the other.
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Speaker 2: Keynote speaker was a Minister for Defense, for Readiness and Industry,
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Speaker 2: Plymouth MP Look Pollard. So let's just have a look
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Speaker 2: at what Luke Pollard had to say here.
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Speaker 1: So here he is.
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Speaker 2: He said, thank you Russie for convening this very timely discussion.
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Speaker 2: A by preparing to fight a long war, it goes
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Speaker 2: right to the heart of security challenges that we face.
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Speaker 2: And he went on to speak about needing to punch
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Speaker 2: and needing to be impatient and people to be driving
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Speaker 2: new behaviors and new ways of working into deliverance. Maybe
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Speaker 2: he just wants some badroom music or something. I don't know,
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Speaker 2: but anyway, he went on to say, speaking about the development,
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Speaker 2: so he went on to speak about the development of
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Speaker 2: Britain's military capability. He said, it is a process that
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Speaker 2: gets us to a new destination because if we wanted
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Speaker 2: to terror Russian aggression, we have to be ready to
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Speaker 2: defeat it, because ultimately that is the way to create
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Speaker 2: the terrence necessary that the terroris necessary to deliver piece. So
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Speaker 2: this is the peace through peace through strength mantra once again.
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Speaker 2: Now you know you might ask, well, why about talking
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Speaker 2: to people? What happened to the West Philian approach to
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Speaker 2: international relations? You know, the idea that acting for the
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Speaker 2: benefit of the other might be the way to deal
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Speaker 2: with organize peace. But we've got to remember Tony Blair
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Speaker 2: dealt with that, so that doesn't apply anymore.
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Speaker 1: So I did it.
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Speaker 2: He went on to say, if you think about even
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Speaker 2: a year ago, there was no EU UK EU Defense partnership,
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Speaker 2: There was no UK leadership with the UK Defense Contact Group,
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Speaker 2: no historic transit house agreements with Germany, no lighthouse projects.
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Speaker 2: They came to the tre that came to that Trading
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Speaker 2: House agreement, no reboots of the Lancaster House treaty with France.
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Speaker 2: And he said, to get to war fighting readiness, we
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Speaker 2: need a whole of society approach. And so that's really
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Speaker 2: what they're going for here. But what you're saying on
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Speaker 2: screen now is exactly what he's talking about this EU
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Speaker 2: UK agreement, or at least the basis of it, which
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Speaker 2: are the various uh the deals between Britain, France, britten Germany,
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Speaker 2: France and Germany. So anyway, as I say, he went
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Speaker 2: on to say, we need a whole of society approach.
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Speaker 2: We'll come on to this a little bit in a second,
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Speaker 2: but before we do that, just to reinforce what Pollard
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Speaker 2: was saying, here's a clip from the First Sea Lord General,
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Speaker 2: Sir Gwynn Jenkins, speaking a couple of days ago at
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Speaker 2: yet another war conference.
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Speaker 6: I genuinely believe war is a possibility. I really hope
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Speaker 6: it doesn't come. It would be horrendous for all of
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Speaker 6: us for a bunch of reasons. But our professional job
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Speaker 6: is to be ready. We owe it to our people
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Speaker 6: to be ready, and we owe it to the nation
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Speaker 6: to be ready, and any excuse is not good enough
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Speaker 6: for doing our best to make sure that we're ready.
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Speaker 2: Quite incredible language. And I speak to Charles earlier before
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Speaker 2: the news program. I was wondering if they're planning for,
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Speaker 2: if they're planning for perpetual war, war kind of war
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Speaker 2: they're planning for, and Pollard has made it clear they're
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Speaker 2: talking about a protracted industrial skill war. And as I say,
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Speaker 2: that's World War one or World War two sort of
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Speaker 2: level stuff. But the question is are we really going
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Speaker 2: to accept this strategic direction, because if we are, it's
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Speaker 2: not just all art. And as colleagues who are clinically insane,
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Speaker 2: perhaps I would argue, but look, let's look at what
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Speaker 2: we're dealing with here, because a few days ago NATO
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Speaker 2: held the Concept Development Wargaming in NATO twenty twenty five conference.
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Speaker 2: They held it in Verona in Italy. And now the
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Speaker 2: contraction of the name, by the way, is CD and
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Speaker 2: WIN twenty twenty five, and they say that WIN has
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Speaker 2: previously provided an opportunity for NATO senior leaders to gain
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Speaker 2: hands on experience with wargaming techniques and its use in
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Speaker 2: NATO previous WIN events. They said have successfully garnered support
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Speaker 2: for the continued growth and use of wargaming in NATO.
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Speaker 2: This year WIN is focused on practitioners of wargaming, so
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Speaker 2: we can continue to grow, refine and learn from one another,
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Speaker 2: fostering improved wargaming in NATO. So let's just have a
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Speaker 2: look at them playing with their toys from last year's conference.
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Speaker 5: It's weird.
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Speaker 7: The Wargaming Initiative for NATO will WIN twenty four takes
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Speaker 7: place here in Hamburg at Helmut Schmidt University. Over three
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Speaker 7: hundred attends across twenty six Partner to Paris will be
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Speaker 7: immersing themselves in twenty one more games at the tactical,
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Speaker 7: strategic political levels away.
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Speaker 8: So this is Grand Ascent. It's a game that mimics
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Speaker 8: how the North Atlantic Council makes decisions.
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Speaker 3: If you play a cent.
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Speaker 8: Over time, you will learn how to make sensus more
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Speaker 8: quickly and with greater quality. This is a game that
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Speaker 8: was created by Allied Command Transformation to support the NATE Headquarters.
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Speaker 7: Wargaming is an incredible and engaging method of analysis that
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Speaker 7: allows us to engage a problem across multiple levels and
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Speaker 7: often multiple levels of command. So the war Gaming Initiative
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Speaker 7: has provided the participants with the opportunity to learn from
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Speaker 7: each other, to strengthen our networks, and to promote security
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Speaker 7: and stability across the world.
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Speaker 2: No, I appreciate that people at home can't see Charles
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Speaker 2: and Vanessa wedding themselves as that was playing, and you know,
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Speaker 2: this is the client show that we're looking at, Charles.
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Speaker 2: But it's serious on one hand because although they're having
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Speaker 2: fun playing risk or something similar, they're also wanting to
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Speaker 2: steal billions of pines and dollars and euros of taxpayers
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Speaker 2: money to fund the building of this military industrial complex
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Speaker 2: with a view to go into war with Russia and China.
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Speaker 3: I think there is a very serious side to it.
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Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure how that Naval chap kept straight
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Speaker 3: face while he was giving the commentary there, but no,
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Speaker 3: I think that the serious point is that actually this
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Speaker 3: done wargaming. The idea of wargaming, of asking the what
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Speaker 3: if question is a very important one and absolutely it
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Speaker 3: is done at all stages of planning in a military
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Speaker 3: context that that is not new. However, to in effect
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Speaker 3: infantalize it by playing actual board games, I think is
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Speaker 3: a very deliberate step to remove the association with the
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Speaker 3: lives that will be lost as a result of these
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Speaker 3: sorts of things. You know, in effect, it's down to
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Speaker 3: the roll of a dice or something, you know, completely banal.
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Speaker 3: So I do think there is that there is absolutely
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Speaker 3: a very serious sort of background to the sweeping away
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Speaker 3: of the consequences of doing this, and that seems to
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Speaker 3: shine through in that, as well as the incorporation of
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Speaker 3: civilians in order to make sure the message transmits beyond,
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Speaker 3: you know, the sort of the military environment.
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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed. And then finally for this section, we go
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Speaker 2: to France where Macron has announced their conscription program otherwise
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Speaker 2: known as national service. Preparation for the announcement, the French
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Speaker 2: Army Chief of Staff General Fabian Mandel said this on Tuesday.
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Speaker 2: We have the know how and we have the economic
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Speaker 2: and demographic strength to dissuade the regime in Moscow. I
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Speaker 2: try not to laugh because this is where it gets serious,
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Speaker 2: because he went on to say what we're lacking and
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Speaker 2: this is where you and he was speaking to mayors
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Speaker 2: in France, this is where you have a role to play.
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Speaker 2: Is the spirit, the spirit which accepts that we will
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Speaker 2: have to suffer if we're to protect what we are
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Speaker 2: if our country waivers because it's not ready to lose
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Speaker 2: its children or suffer economically because the priority has to
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Speaker 2: be military production, then we are indeed at risk. You
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Speaker 2: must speak of this in your times and villages, and
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Speaker 2: Vanessa I would say that, yes, people must speak about
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Speaker 2: this in their times and villages. There must be a
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Speaker 2: blanket refusal to waste life on this insanitay, And clearly
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Speaker 2: there is a blanket refusal because to a certain degree,
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Speaker 2: at least because Micron's announcements stated that the new framework
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Speaker 2: was meant to address what he called the desire for
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Speaker 2: service amongst the youth. But you know, the longer we
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Speaker 2: go on, the more absolute insanity comes out of the
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Speaker 2: minds of these people.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and absolutely, And of course when they say we
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Speaker 5: must be prepared to lose, they're not talking about themselves
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Speaker 5: and their own families. They're talking about the conscripts and
21:24
Speaker 5: the poor military that are going to be poured out
21:27
Speaker 5: as canon foder as of course they have been in Ukraine.
21:31
Speaker 5: Ukraine has set the example for this.
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Speaker 2: Let's move on then to the Ministry Defense. And of
21:39
Speaker 2: course they've been traveling right the way around the world
21:42
Speaker 2: over the last little while and spending lots of money
21:44
Speaker 2: on that. What have they been up to?
21:48
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, it's good afternoon everyone. I mean
21:50
Speaker 5: the thing is, it's quite extraordinary to watch them playing
21:53
Speaker 5: their games of battleship and so on, and as Charles said,
21:58
Speaker 5: it's sort of distant some distances them, just as we're seeing,
22:03
Speaker 5: of course, that war anyway is evolving into push button
22:08
Speaker 5: mass murder rather than actual people on the ground that
22:12
Speaker 5: are going to suffer the consequences. But this was basically
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Speaker 5: an article printed at Action against Armed Violence. The UK
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Speaker 5: MOD spent one hundred and ten million on travel in
22:26
Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy countries in just one year, including
22:30
Speaker 5: to states beset by coups and repressive regimes. Of course
22:34
Speaker 5: we won't talk about who those repressive regimes are and
22:38
Speaker 5: in relation to who, and also who's behind the various coups.
22:43
Speaker 5: But I was fascinated to see the countries that have
22:46
Speaker 5: actually been visited. Bearing in mind we're supposedly heading for
22:50
Speaker 5: this industrial scale war, and yet the MOD seems to
22:54
Speaker 5: have forgotten that we're no longer an empire. They're visiting
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Speaker 5: the vestiges of the empire, and as I said, spending
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Speaker 5: taxpayers' money to do so. So let's have a look
23:04
Speaker 5: at the fifteen destinations. They do include the US, Australia, Kenya,
23:10
Speaker 5: and Germany, but also Oman, Canada, Cyprus, Brunei, Nepal, Bahrain, Japan, Gibraltar, Norway,
23:19
Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia, Poland and Singapore. And you can freeze frame
23:24
Speaker 5: and look at the actual cost of those visits. But
23:28
Speaker 5: then what is interesting, of course, guess what also happened
23:33
Speaker 5: is that mod officials something like twelve trips were made
23:39
Speaker 5: during the intensified genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, two hundred
23:46
Speaker 5: and ninety nine thousand pounds. Sorry, it's a little bit
23:50
Speaker 5: difficult to read now it's gone small. We're spent basically
23:56
Speaker 5: in traveling to Israel working on intelligence Defense Corporation since
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Speaker 5: the beginning of the Gaza genocide. The cost of these
24:06
Speaker 5: journeys was not among the highest, but their timing is striking,
24:08
Speaker 5: of course, because they were ongoing during a genocide against
24:13
Speaker 5: the Palestinian people that, of course is still running even
24:17
Speaker 5: now despite the Trump peace scam that included six hundred
24:22
Speaker 5: and twenty three surveillance flights, which i'll talk about a
24:25
Speaker 5: little bit later in this section providing intelligence to Israel
24:29
Speaker 5: that is believed to have enabled the targeting of Palestinians
24:33
Speaker 5: inside Gaza, and as I mentioned, twelve trips were carried
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Speaker 5: out by mod officials during the actual ongoing genocide. Other
24:45
Speaker 5: countries visited, and I'd like to get Charles's and Mike's
24:48
Speaker 5: comments at the end of this section if we have time,
24:51
Speaker 5: so including China, Iran, and Russia are up there. So
24:57
Speaker 5: I couldn't actually find details on the Russia and the Iran,
25:00
Speaker 5: but China, I did manage to Afghanistan, Bangladeshi or Arek, Libya, Mali, Pakistan,
25:06
Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia, Colombia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Egypt, Ethiopio, Somalia,
25:12
Speaker 5: s Sudan of course that is undergoing also a genocide
25:17
Speaker 5: with British weapons by the Rapid Support forces against civilians
25:23
Speaker 5: in Darfur. Sri Lanka took Manistan and Uzbekistan Russian speaking
25:29
Speaker 5: areas of course. And then this is from the Spectator
25:33
Speaker 5: in April twenty twenty five this year, Why did the
25:37
Speaker 5: British Defense chief visit China? An interesting question. So Admiral
25:42
Speaker 5: Tony Radikan, who went to Beijing. He gave a speech
25:48
Speaker 5: to students of the People's Liberation Army at the National
25:51
Speaker 5: Defense University in Beijing, and as the spectator says, take
25:55
Speaker 5: a moment to think about that. He also met with
25:58
Speaker 5: General lu Zhen, the Chief of Staff of the Joint
26:01
Speaker 5: Staff of the Central Military Commission, the operational headquarters of
26:05
Speaker 5: the PLA. The Ministry of National Defense reported that the
26:10
Speaker 5: two sides conducted in depth exchanges on China UK relations
26:14
Speaker 5: and military into military relations, international and regional situations, and
26:19
Speaker 5: issues of common concern, and had communications on strengthening exchanges
26:25
Speaker 5: and cooperation between the two militaries, which is again quite interesting,
26:31
Speaker 5: bearing in mind that were supposed to be fearing Chinese
26:34
Speaker 5: surveillance and electric vehicles, as Childs reported last week, and
26:39
Speaker 5: then to finish off here part of the in relation
26:45
Speaker 5: to the MOD heading to Israel on twelve trips during
26:49
Speaker 5: the genocide, the Foreign Office also flouted its own roles
26:53
Speaker 5: designed to stop MOD spyplane intelligence actually harming Palestinian civilians,
26:59
Speaker 5: and ian O AT Action against Armed Violence points out
27:03
Speaker 5: that there have been no HR human rights assessments, ministerial
27:07
Speaker 5: approvals or internal guidance regarding the intelligence sharing with Israel,
27:15
Speaker 5: and basically when there is a sharing of intelligence between
27:19
Speaker 5: the UK and another country, it should trigger the Overseas
27:23
Speaker 5: Security and Justice Assistance Framework, which has not apparently been
27:28
Speaker 5: triggered according to fois that AOAV have put into the government. Mike,
27:33
Speaker 5: You'll be glad to know that they have received no
27:35
Speaker 5: response until very recently when they were told that that
27:38
Speaker 5: information is not available. So of course the government has
27:42
Speaker 5: no accountability. The Ministry of Defense has zero accountability for
27:47
Speaker 5: actually participating in the genocide in Gaza. But I would
27:53
Speaker 5: love your comments on the fact that we appear to
27:56
Speaker 5: be visiting the countries that we're claiming are about to
27:59
Speaker 5: murder people in the streets of our cities, which are Iran,
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Speaker 5: Russia and China.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
28:07
Speaker 2: Well, before I comment, I'd like to hear Charles's thoughts
28:12
Speaker 2: on this, because you know what act are the normal
28:15
Speaker 2: activities Ministry Defense are pursuing and these types of trips.
28:21
Speaker 3: It's a very good question. I mean, the sort of
28:23
Speaker 3: broader topic of defense engagement is kind of ongoing. And
28:27
Speaker 3: also don't forget that the one avenue at least that
28:31
Speaker 3: would account for this to a certain extent is the
28:33
Speaker 3: fact that every British High Commission, or indeed British embassy
28:37
Speaker 3: would have a defense section in it, and therefore that
28:40
Speaker 3: section would be liaising with the host nation armed forces
28:43
Speaker 3: and that they would therefore be acting as a conduit
28:46
Speaker 3: of personnel to go to and fro. That doesn't explain
28:50
Speaker 3: the inconsistencies with regard to specifically Russia, China, Iran and
28:54
Speaker 3: also Israel, and in fact as it's not exactly an aside,
28:58
Speaker 3: but I think directly relevant. I happen to know because
29:01
Speaker 3: I spoke to the person in question that, astonishingly, even
29:05
Speaker 3: this summer a defense attashe was appointed to Tel Aviv,
29:10
Speaker 3: a British defense attash, that appointment was not actually in
29:13
Speaker 3: the end taken up, but it is. It is quite
29:14
Speaker 3: staggering to think that even in the summer of twenty
29:17
Speaker 3: twenty five, exactly to Vanessa's point about what had happened,
29:20
Speaker 3: that appointment was still made.
29:24
Speaker 2: I mean, how much of this type of travel is
29:28
Speaker 2: there to try to identify, particularly in countries that Britain
29:32
Speaker 2: would like to see ratio change will be there to identify,
29:36
Speaker 2: as we've talked about with BBC Media Action and Surrey
29:39
Speaker 2: for example, identify people that are opposing forces and help
29:45
Speaker 2: develop relations with those people.
29:49
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not sure specifically that that kind of issue
29:53
Speaker 3: would be dealt, would be entrusted with to military personnel,
29:57
Speaker 3: but of course that in insofar as obscuring the truth goes.
30:03
Speaker 3: Let's say, you know, travel that's made by members of
30:06
Speaker 3: the intelligence services, which would be in fact shadowed by
30:11
Speaker 3: military personnel who would no doubt be accompanying. Then would
30:14
Speaker 3: that I think would explain some of the destinations I mean, otherwise,
30:18
Speaker 3: there are you know, very many engagements with a you know,
30:23
Speaker 3: we've talked about already the apparent idea of the defense dividend.
30:27
Speaker 3: Of course part of the big sales pushes for European
30:31
Speaker 3: nations and indeed the British start spending more and more
30:34
Speaker 3: and more on defense. But actually a huge part of
30:36
Speaker 3: it is what we can flog to other countries. Which
30:38
Speaker 3: is why this idea of defense engagement is so important.
30:41
Speaker 3: Is what are we going to be able to sell, albeit,
30:44
Speaker 3: as you say, predicated on the threat of such and
30:46
Speaker 3: such a thing happening.
30:48
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Well, anyway, let's come to you then and
30:52
Speaker 2: continue this theme. And I think we're going to begin
30:55
Speaker 2: with defense intelligence.
30:56
Speaker 3: If that's not Knoximore on, well, it can be sometimes
31:01
Speaker 3: and I think this is a very interesting case of
31:04
Speaker 3: sort of pot and kettle. This was put out by
31:07
Speaker 3: the Minister Defense yesterday and begins with the usual refrain
31:11
Speaker 3: of referring to Russia's illegal full scale invasion of Ukraine.
31:15
Speaker 3: But the eye catching bit was at the bottom of
31:20
Speaker 3: the update, which says since launching the illegal full scale
31:24
Speaker 3: invasion of Ukraine in twenty twenty two, the Russian state
31:27
Speaker 3: has increasingly sought to control, sensor, and constrict its domestic
31:33
Speaker 3: information environment, and that struck me as being outstandingly hypocritical.
31:39
Speaker 3: The most obvious point of reference, I would think, is
31:43
Speaker 3: to look at Offcom from twenty twenty two and the
31:46
Speaker 3: action that they took against the Russia Today network, and
31:51
Speaker 3: the way they put it was that art is no
31:53
Speaker 3: longer broadcasting in the UK. On the eighteenth of March
31:57
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, Offcom revoked Artie's broadcast license on the
32:01
Speaker 3: basis that we did not consider Artie's license fit and
32:04
Speaker 3: proper to hold it sorry license c Ano TV, Norvosity
32:09
Speaker 3: fit and proper to hold it. Now. The critical part,
32:13
Speaker 3: in a way, as we've just been alluding to to
32:15
Speaker 3: any war, and indeed the build up to it is
32:18
Speaker 3: the information that passes to and fro. And just to
32:22
Speaker 3: go further on this, there's a press release put up
32:24
Speaker 3: by the Ministry of Defense just today. I think it
32:27
Speaker 3: was saying that the UK has smashed a Russian cybercrime
32:30
Speaker 3: network responsible for attacks on UK businesses, effectively boasting about
32:34
Speaker 3: imposing sanctions on criminals. And if the Russian state architecture
32:38
Speaker 3: doesn't care about sanctions, I'm not sure I can really
32:40
Speaker 3: see that Russian cyber criminals will pay much heed to it.
32:45
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, the mod persists in saying that the Foreign
32:50
Speaker 3: Textrey has announced to crackdown on elicit cyber activity globally
32:55
Speaker 3: as cyber attacks cost the UK economy fourteen point seven billion. Well,
32:59
Speaker 3: we'll return to that, I think later in the program.
33:01
Speaker 3: Ministry of Defense carry on and again on this point
33:05
Speaker 3: of information and indeed this threat and the idea of
33:08
Speaker 3: there being a long war of course posting. I know
33:12
Speaker 3: Mike has spoken about this in the past, but you
33:14
Speaker 3: know the sort of Russian threat in the North Atlantic now.
33:17
Speaker 3: The reason I'm referring to all of this is because
33:20
Speaker 3: it does fit in with what Soldier magazine has been
33:24
Speaker 3: writing about this month, and that is a piece entitled
33:28
Speaker 3: taking Aim at Unknown Drones. Now there's been some background
33:32
Speaker 3: to this, but effectively the article is suggesting that through
33:36
Speaker 3: a new Armed Forces Bill, military personnel going to be
33:39
Speaker 3: given powers to relate to the threat of drone strikes
33:45
Speaker 3: within the UK. They say the intruders can only be
33:48
Speaker 3: shot down in so called extreme circumstances such as where
33:52
Speaker 3: there is an obvious threat to life, and in some
33:55
Speaker 3: other defined situations under current law, so it's all rather vague.
34:01
Speaker 3: It's been taken up by Unmanned Airspace Trade publication which
34:06
Speaker 3: says that John Heals announced the new counter drone legislation
34:10
Speaker 3: and support for allies. But the point of this is
34:13
Speaker 3: that the legislation that's being proposed in the as yet
34:16
Speaker 3: unseen Armed Forces Bill only relates to the apparent threat
34:20
Speaker 3: to the military and not to civilians. So whilst we're
34:23
Speaker 3: on the one hand, supposed to engender a whole of
34:27
Speaker 3: society approach to war, not apparently if there's a civilian threat,
34:31
Speaker 3: or at least a threat to civilians from drones, which
34:34
Speaker 3: seems to be extremely inconsistent. And of course the other point,
34:38
Speaker 3: which I have made several times before, is to refer
34:41
Speaker 3: to this idea of how on earth is one supposed
34:44
Speaker 3: to know what is a threat and what is not.
34:47
Speaker 3: We look at Darlington in the north of England, which
34:49
Speaker 3: has been selected by Amazon as the location for their
34:53
Speaker 3: drone fleet for prime air drone delivery, and of course
34:57
Speaker 3: the Civil Aviation Authority being completely inconsistent there on what
35:00
Speaker 3: may or may not be done with regard to drones,
35:03
Speaker 3: depending on whether you're an individual or a gigantic corporation.
35:07
Speaker 3: And I just go back to Soldier magazine to point
35:09
Speaker 3: out that, notwithstanding all the activities surrounding Palestine action at
35:13
Speaker 3: the moment and what's going through the court, Albert Systems
35:16
Speaker 3: is still advertising in Soldier magazine. And of course you
35:19
Speaker 3: can see unmanned aerial vehicles on the bottom right if
35:22
Speaker 3: you are watching the screen. And I just wind up
35:26
Speaker 3: by referring back to what Mike was speaking about last week,
35:29
Speaker 3: which was the seminar held by the IDF which there
35:33
Speaker 3: was confusion as to whether British personnel had attended or not.
35:36
Speaker 3: Now I've been in touch with the IDF Press office
35:38
Speaker 3: to try and ascertain whether or not they think that
35:42
Speaker 3: there were any Brits there, and they sent me through
35:45
Speaker 3: a packet of photographs, which of course I've scanned I
35:48
Speaker 3: haven't seen any British looking combats. But if we just
35:51
Speaker 3: put that image back on screen, now what you will see,
35:54
Speaker 3: and indeed it's very public. But just I think worth
35:57
Speaker 3: noting that the Americans were represented in numbers at this seminar,
36:01
Speaker 3: specifically based on what they're describing as lessons from the war,
36:06
Speaker 3: and so just with that in mind, I'll just finish
36:08
Speaker 3: with a quote that I was sent from the Commander
36:11
Speaker 3: Ground Forces, Major General Nadav Latan, who says I was
36:15
Speaker 3: moved to see all of you come to learn from
36:18
Speaker 3: the IDF. This seminar allowed us not only to present
36:22
Speaker 3: what we have learned, but also to learn from you. Now.
36:26
Speaker 3: The reason I show that is it is not just
36:29
Speaker 3: to consider that in its own right and the attendance
36:33
Speaker 3: of the Americans and many other nations who the United
36:36
Speaker 3: Kingdom is supposedly allied with, but also to ask the
36:39
Speaker 3: question where does that leave the UK if in effect
36:41
Speaker 3: they didn't acknowledge the invitation, they didn't attend, but they
36:45
Speaker 3: are of course still aligned with all of the other
36:48
Speaker 3: nations that did go, but apparently not actually part of
36:52
Speaker 3: the process itself.
36:54
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36:57
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38:20
Speaker 2: Let's move on because the BBC and others are reporting
38:24
Speaker 2: the existence of an internal government briefing produced by the
38:29
Speaker 2: Ministry of Justice.
38:30
Speaker 1: So here's the article here Justice.
38:32
Speaker 2: Secretary wants jury trials scrapped except in most serious cases.
38:37
Speaker 2: So this briefing note has apparently gone to all other
38:40
Speaker 2: Whitehall departments and the BBC reports that it confirms plans
38:44
Speaker 2: to create a new tier of jury list courts in
38:46
Speaker 2: England and Wales, and they say that the document proposes
38:50
Speaker 2: only guaranteeing juries for defendants facing rip murder, manslaughter or
38:54
Speaker 2: other cases passing a public interest test. Now, the BBC
38:58
Speaker 2: says that David Lammie wants to ask Parliament to end
39:01
Speaker 2: jury trials for defendants who would be jealed for up
39:03
Speaker 2: to five years, and that these proposals are an attempt
39:07
Speaker 2: to end on precedented delays and backlogs in the courts
39:11
Speaker 2: and do not apply to Northern Ireland or Scotland. Well,
39:13
Speaker 2: that's because northern Ireland already has no jury trials because
39:16
Speaker 2: of historic issues with the so called troubles. But nonetheless,
39:21
Speaker 2: here what we're saying is problem reaction solution because this
39:23
Speaker 2: problem was created by successive governments and the idea of
39:26
Speaker 2: removing juries has been one that's been proposed by successive governments.
39:31
Speaker 2: So if you want shorter waiting lists for trials and
39:34
Speaker 2: perhaps reduce a number of the people in the country,
39:37
Speaker 2: or build infrastructure and as to support the increased population.
39:41
Speaker 2: But this is not about the inefficiencies, the alleged inefficiencies
39:45
Speaker 2: in the process or with juries. Juries have been a
39:49
Speaker 2: target because of their power to overturn bad law, and
39:52
Speaker 2: we're seeing so much bad law being created by the
39:55
Speaker 2: British regime. I suspect that they see juries as a
39:58
Speaker 2: major threat in the longer term. Another potential reason is
40:03
Speaker 2: that the not too distant future will see an increase
40:05
Speaker 2: in the use of AI in the so called justice system.
40:09
Speaker 2: We need to make room for that. And to be clear,
40:12
Speaker 2: this is purely academic.
40:13
Speaker 1: At the moment.
40:14
Speaker 2: There's a clear drive to use AI for scheduling and
40:17
Speaker 2: a host of admin task like document processing, but the
40:20
Speaker 2: idea of AI making judicial decisions is being discussed, but
40:24
Speaker 2: as usual, I suspect we're at the top of a
40:27
Speaker 2: slippery slope.
40:28
Speaker 1: Charles, what are your thoughts on this?
40:33
Speaker 3: Well, I think it would be an absolute disaster in
40:38
Speaker 3: every respect. But the problem is that everybody seems very
40:41
Speaker 3: willing to go for it, albeit a totally untried, untested mechanism.
40:47
Speaker 3: It's already been used by the police, it's already been
40:49
Speaker 3: used by the Prison Service to probation service, and the
40:53
Speaker 3: government has been writing about using it in justice and
40:55
Speaker 3: indeed one has heard reports from judges themselves saying that
40:59
Speaker 3: they've already used AI in helping them with their summing up.
41:03
Speaker 3: So that you know, it is a huge danger, not
41:06
Speaker 3: just because it pushes us away from juryalist trials, which
41:09
Speaker 3: is of course terrifically significant, but also because that there
41:12
Speaker 3: seems to be a complete misunderstanding, or at least a
41:16
Speaker 3: total lack of information or knowledge about the biases that
41:20
Speaker 3: are inherent within AI. So I mean huge number of
41:23
Speaker 3: problems associated with going down this route. But this is
41:26
Speaker 3: exactly what is being pushed by Levison with his review
41:31
Speaker 3: of earlier in the year and all the rest of it.
41:32
Speaker 3: But like everything else, it's explained about well you know,
41:35
Speaker 3: we're just short of time. It's the most convenient thing
41:37
Speaker 3: to do.
41:38
Speaker 2: And you know, we should not understand the importance of
41:42
Speaker 2: juries and jury nullification and the idea that a jury
41:46
Speaker 2: can overturn bad law. This is this is something that
41:49
Speaker 2: juries are almost never told about, but it is a
41:51
Speaker 2: key role.
41:54
Speaker 3: It is, it's absolutely a key role. I mean, you know,
41:57
Speaker 3: with that, we have to be mindful of the fact
41:59
Speaker 3: that it absolutely works both ways in effect in that
42:02
Speaker 3: sometimes we will look at the way in which a
42:04
Speaker 3: jury has taken that action and think that that is
42:08
Speaker 3: a sort of a right and proper outcome, and sometimes
42:10
Speaker 3: possibly not. And there've been a number of high profile
42:13
Speaker 3: incidents relating to sort of climate and slavery associated issues
42:18
Speaker 3: where the jury did exactly exercise that power, and of
42:21
Speaker 3: course there was outcry afterwards because it was deemed by
42:26
Speaker 3: many people that that was the wrong outcome, but nonetheless,
42:29
Speaker 3: giving the jury the chance to deliberate should be absolutely sacrisphaned.
42:34
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, thank you for that. Let's move to the
42:38
Speaker 2: Middle East again and Vanessa Siria and protests beginning on
42:42
Speaker 2: the street, and are we starting to see twenty eleven again?
42:48
Speaker 5: No, I think we're starting to see a pushback against
42:50
Speaker 5: the atrocities committed by the West collective West imposed tach
42:57
Speaker 5: theory regime. And I just wanted to remind everyone because
43:00
Speaker 5: we've basically been predicting these protests for some time in
43:04
Speaker 5: the articles that are being published at Syria Centric, which
43:08
Speaker 5: is the action not only on Syria, but regional analysis
43:12
Speaker 5: going as far as the Sedan with a recent article
43:16
Speaker 5: by Marwa Osman, and we are basically trying to bring
43:20
Speaker 5: on board authors from the region. And I did just
43:23
Speaker 5: want to point out because someone mentioned, I think on
43:26
Speaker 5: the YouTube channel that all the articles appear to be
43:29
Speaker 5: written by me. They are written by me, but in
43:32
Speaker 5: collaboration with Syrian still inside Syria, whose names obviously can't
43:37
Speaker 5: be revealed for security reasons. So this is a a
43:41
Speaker 5: very just a few seconds of a video of the
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Speaker 5: protests in the coastal region in Syria yesterday, So if
43:48
Speaker 5: we just play that, and then on social media, a
44:02
Speaker 5: number of very well known Syrian or Syrian sympathetic accounts
44:08
Speaker 5: went on record basically saying that what is unfolding in
44:12
Speaker 5: Syria is a reaction against what has been going on
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Speaker 5: since December last year. It's almost a year since the
44:19
Speaker 5: fall of Damascus. On December the eighth, twenty twenty four,
44:22
Speaker 5: five people were killed once the general security as it's
44:27
Speaker 5: called the militia that are working with the Jiulani regime
44:32
Speaker 5: waded in and basically started injuring and using live ammunition
44:38
Speaker 5: ammunition against the protesters. So five dead and a number
44:41
Speaker 5: of injuries. But the protests have continued, forty two protests
44:45
Speaker 5: across basically the coastal area in central Syria. They haven't
44:50
Speaker 5: arrived at Damascus yet. But this is another account that
44:54
Speaker 5: I would recommend everyone follows Syria Justice Archive that basically
44:59
Speaker 5: runs in our of all of the atrocities being committed
45:04
Speaker 5: by Jolani's forces. And again they talk about the protests
45:09
Speaker 5: among the Alowhites, Christians and Ishmaeli's. Now it's interesting that
45:14
Speaker 5: the Ishmeli is another minority sect in Syria, have joined
45:17
Speaker 5: the protest because until now they have been relatively left
45:21
Speaker 5: alone by Jolani. They were among the first to surrender
45:26
Speaker 5: as the tach Theory forces were advancing towards Damascus. The
45:29
Speaker 5: fact that they're now joining the protests is for me
45:32
Speaker 5: a sign that there is a general unrest that is
45:37
Speaker 5: now bubbling to the surface or other boiling to the surface. Now,
45:41
Speaker 5: of course the threat will be federalism and whether Western
45:47
Speaker 5: nations that were involved in the regime change war, not
45:50
Speaker 5: necessarily Western Israel, Turkey, Russia will exploit the protests to
45:58
Speaker 5: basically take control and partition Syria into sectarian statelets, which
46:04
Speaker 5: of course was the project of Israel with the Clean
46:08
Speaker 5: breakdoctor and published in nineteen ninety six. But just a
46:12
Speaker 5: quick look at the map to see where the protests
46:14
Speaker 5: are actually taking place so people can sort of gelocate
46:17
Speaker 5: it a little bit. So Latakia, Tartouls, Hama Homs, which
46:22
Speaker 5: is in central Syria. You can see they're close to
46:27
Speaker 5: the border with Edleb in Hamar. So serious protests going on,
46:33
Speaker 5: and something, as I said, that we've been predicting for
46:35
Speaker 5: some time in the articles that have been published up
46:39
Speaker 5: at UK column. So not a huge surprise, but we
46:42
Speaker 5: have to wait and see where they go. Now, will
46:46
Speaker 5: Damascus join in the protests? Personally, I think there's a
46:49
Speaker 5: very strong possibility because there has been an ethnic cleansing
46:55
Speaker 5: campaign being run by the tech theory forces. If we
46:58
Speaker 5: can just have a look at the post on x
47:01
Speaker 5: by Syria Justice Archive showing that the Tach theories are
47:05
Speaker 5: now building a sectarian apartheid style wall in one of
47:10
Speaker 5: the areas in Damascus, in Alsamiria area, which has been
47:14
Speaker 5: under attack in the last few weeks, with families being
47:19
Speaker 5: persecuted and basically pushed out of their homes and Tach
47:22
Speaker 5: theory elements being resettled into those homes. But now effectively
47:27
Speaker 5: what they appear to be doing is to be building
47:29
Speaker 5: a wall around the area to be able to fully
47:32
Speaker 5: besiege the Ala white communities within that area. So I
47:37
Speaker 5: think pretty soon we are going to see unification of
47:41
Speaker 5: those protests. But I also wanted to draw people's attention
47:44
Speaker 5: to a twenty twelve email among the Hillary Clinton emails
47:50
Speaker 5: released by Wiki Leaks, which actually stated so this was
47:55
Speaker 5: twenty twelve. At the same time, the fall of the
47:58
Speaker 5: House of Us could well ignore a sectarian war between
48:01
Speaker 5: the Shiites and the majority of the Sunnis of the
48:03
Speaker 5: region drawing in Iran, which in the view of the
48:06
Speaker 5: Israeli commanders, would not be a bad thing for Israel
48:09
Speaker 5: and its Western allies. In the opinion of this individual,
48:13
Speaker 5: such a scenario would distract and might obstruct Iran from
48:17
Speaker 5: its nuclear activities. For a good deal of time. In addition,
48:21
Speaker 5: certain senior Israeli intelligence analysts believe that this ton of
48:24
Speaker 5: events may even prove to be a factor in the
48:27
Speaker 5: eventual fall of the current government of Iran. So as
48:31
Speaker 5: I said, while these protests seem to be organic at
48:34
Speaker 5: the moment, one doesn't know how they might be infiltrated
48:38
Speaker 5: and exploited in favor, of course, of the Zionis block
48:41
Speaker 5: in the region.
48:43
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Vanessa, Charles.
48:45
Speaker 2: Let's come back to you then, and well, as company directors,
48:50
Speaker 2: many people have had to register their identification with company
48:54
Speaker 2: size recently.
48:55
Speaker 1: What's the latest on this.
48:58
Speaker 3: Well, this really is the pushing of a false narrative,
49:02
Speaker 3: i would say, by company's house, which of course goes
49:05
Speaker 3: back to the Economic Crime and Corporate Transferaity Act twenty
49:08
Speaker 3: twenty three. Effectively the suggestion that company's house is being
49:11
Speaker 3: used as a front for what they're calling bogus directors.
49:15
Speaker 3: So they're saying that these changes in order that they
49:19
Speaker 3: avoid these sort of bogus circumstances. And again, this is
49:22
Speaker 3: something that's been pushed very much on social media over
49:25
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, with much reporting on how
49:27
Speaker 3: company's house is kind of complicit in an awful lot
49:30
Speaker 3: of fraud and other crime. But they have put out
49:35
Speaker 3: a mechanism by which one is supposed to confirm or
49:40
Speaker 3: verify one's identity if indeed you are a company director
49:44
Speaker 3: or a person with significant control of an organization. Now,
49:47
Speaker 3: a lot of this has been confusingly reported, let's say,
49:51
Speaker 3: or wilfully misreported. There's been a lot of information out
49:54
Speaker 3: there about the requirement for biometrics and all that kind
49:57
Speaker 3: of thing. Now that's not necessarily the case, whilst there
50:01
Speaker 3: is it is possible to go that particular route. And
50:04
Speaker 3: on screen now is a video that's been put out
50:06
Speaker 3: by Company Science as to how you might verify your
50:08
Speaker 3: identity and of course the security and convenience of doing so.
50:12
Speaker 3: It's it is really about pushing people towards a centralized,
50:17
Speaker 3: government run digital identity. And when I say government run,
50:21
Speaker 3: they might control it insofar as the purchasing and design
50:25
Speaker 3: an organization goes, but of course this is all held
50:27
Speaker 3: by third parties. Now, I've been in touch with the
50:30
Speaker 3: company sized press office to get an update on exactly
50:33
Speaker 3: what has been going on and to ask questions about
50:37
Speaker 3: their sort of reporting on the way they see it now.
50:39
Speaker 3: They say that they're phasing in the identity verification over
50:42
Speaker 3: twelve months from the eighteenth of November to make things
50:46
Speaker 3: easier for existing directors. Now, anybody who has acted as
50:52
Speaker 3: a company director will have to scratch their heads now
50:55
Speaker 3: and think of all those difficulties that have been put
50:58
Speaker 3: before them because company size apparently didn't know who they
51:01
Speaker 3: were anyway. They went on to say that they've designed
51:03
Speaker 3: our identity verification processes to be simple, secure and robust. Well,
51:07
Speaker 3: will come back to that in a minute. They say
51:10
Speaker 3: that more than one point seven million individuals have successfully
51:13
Speaker 3: verified their identity. This is going back to the deadline
51:16
Speaker 3: or what they were very much suggesting was a deadline
51:18
Speaker 3: of the eighteenth of November, and that there are still
51:20
Speaker 3: six or seven million people who are still required to
51:24
Speaker 3: do so. They then said, and I'd like Mike's comment
51:28
Speaker 3: on this, that the verification and filing services were unaffected
51:32
Speaker 3: by the cloud Flare issues as reported on the eighteenth
51:36
Speaker 3: of November. Mike, what's your take on that.
51:38
Speaker 2: I would be highly skeptical of that. We can talk
51:42
Speaker 2: much more about this an extra but I have absolute
51:45
Speaker 2: reason to believe that Companies House was affected by the
51:49
Speaker 2: cloud flair adage, and well, as I say, we'll talk
51:53
Speaker 2: about that an.
51:53
Speaker 3: Extra Yeah it is. It's absolutely an interesting talking point. Nonetheless,
51:59
Speaker 3: they went on and have been moving the goldpost on
52:02
Speaker 3: their website about verifying your identity. The first thing they
52:06
Speaker 3: said was just the day before what they'd absolutely suggested
52:09
Speaker 3: was a deadline, they put out an update saying this
52:11
Speaker 3: date is not a deadline, but it marks the start
52:14
Speaker 3: of a twelve month transition period, in effect giving themselves
52:17
Speaker 3: wiggle room for the number of people that do not
52:19
Speaker 3: appear to have actually complied and signed up. And then,
52:22
Speaker 3: somewhat ironically, they then have a fraud warning saying do
52:25
Speaker 3: not let others use your identity. And to my point
52:28
Speaker 3: about the government not actually controlling this, of course, this
52:31
Speaker 3: is all entirely contingent upon the management of your data
52:34
Speaker 3: by Experience, who, again, further irony, have on their website
52:39
Speaker 3: a data breach resolution service. Now, if you're wondering why
52:43
Speaker 3: that's ironic, we'll go back to twenty fifteen and look
52:45
Speaker 3: at the twin Gate report, a massive UK data breach
52:50
Speaker 3: that Experience were responsible for, or indeed suffered largely due
52:54
Speaker 3: to sorry involving mobile telephone operators. Then another in South
52:59
Speaker 3: Africa into a twenty affecting twenty four million people in
53:03
Speaker 3: South Africa, and more recently the Dutch DPA have fined
53:08
Speaker 3: Experience Sorry, Experience Experience two point seven million for breaches
53:13
Speaker 3: of GDPR. So I think it would be something of
53:16
Speaker 3: a stretch to suggest that data is in safe hands
53:21
Speaker 3: and if you're not a company director, you have nothing
53:24
Speaker 3: to do with company's house. Then may I suggest that
53:27
Speaker 3: this is the thin end of the wedge and if
53:30
Speaker 3: at first they came for the company directors, they will
53:33
Speaker 3: absolutely eventually come to you. Of course, the way to subvert,
53:39
Speaker 3: thwart and bog down this system is via freedom of
53:42
Speaker 3: information requests and in particular subject access requests in order
53:45
Speaker 3: to find out the information that they do have on you,
53:47
Speaker 3: in order to be able to get that information removed.
53:51
Speaker 3: I would just finish off by encouraging you to go
53:53
Speaker 3: to the UK column website and type in a search
53:56
Speaker 3: for digital identity to a little bit small on screen,
54:00
Speaker 3: but there is absolute trove of information about this, about
54:04
Speaker 3: where it's going, where it's come from, and how it
54:06
Speaker 3: will affect you.
54:09
Speaker 2: Just to add to this, I just want to put
54:12
Speaker 2: a smile on everyone's face because here is Richard dear Love,
54:16
Speaker 2: who is extremely concerned all of a sudden that when
54:19
Speaker 2: you aggregate data into one massive base, a database. He means,
54:23
Speaker 2: of course, it immediately becomes a target for the country's enemies.
54:28
Speaker 2: You therefore must be sure that the citadel is impregnable.
54:32
Speaker 2: He's talking about the citadel, that is the massive database. Well,
54:37
Speaker 2: it's interesting that he focuses on the country's enemies and
54:40
Speaker 2: when in fact, most of these data breaches are related
54:42
Speaker 2: to criminals and criminal gangs. But anyway, we'll talk about
54:47
Speaker 2: more about that and extra as well. But Vanessa, let's
54:49
Speaker 2: come back to you and back to the Middle East again,
54:52
Speaker 2: and what are the UAE and Israel up to?
54:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, and also quite amusing that, of course most of
55:00
Speaker 5: the data is being stored on Israeli cloud systems. But anyway,
55:07
Speaker 5: minor detail. So yeah, I mean, basically, we have a situation,
55:12
Speaker 5: of course, in Gaza. Unsurprisingly, even with the UN Security
55:16
Speaker 5: Council Trump resolution, of course, it's basically frozen, with Israel
55:22
Speaker 5: still occupying fifty eight percent of Gaza's territory and still
55:28
Speaker 5: bombing and starving and basically ethnically cleansing the Palestinians that
55:34
Speaker 5: remain in a much reduced territorial area of Gaza. At
55:40
Speaker 5: the same time, we've talked about this often that where
55:43
Speaker 5: are we heading towards? And as you always say, might
55:47
Speaker 5: follow the direction of travel, don't look at the destructions
55:50
Speaker 5: on the way. And this is very much what the
55:52
Speaker 5: UAE has been quietly up to why the genocide has
55:56
Speaker 5: been ongoing in Gaza. UA and Israel quietly advanced this
56:01
Speaker 5: so called peace railway amid the Gaza genocide. Now what
56:06
Speaker 5: is this? Of course the UAE, this is a tweet
56:09
Speaker 5: or rather a post. I still can't call them posts.
56:13
Speaker 5: Back in twenty twenty four when the UAE and Saudi
56:16
Speaker 5: Arabia were effectively providing a land bridge to allow the
56:20
Speaker 5: supply to basic supplies, to break the Yemeny red cea
56:27
Speaker 5: blockade of course, to try and bring an end to
56:30
Speaker 5: the genocide in Gaza. And how does this tie in
56:36
Speaker 5: with the long term plans and campaign by Israel and
56:40
Speaker 5: of course by Trump and the UK, the entire alliance,
56:45
Speaker 5: including Tony Blair. Of course, if we have a look
56:47
Speaker 5: at this, it's the India, Middle East European Economic Corridor,
56:51
Speaker 5: the Blessings and Curse map that Natannahu showed at the UNNGA,
56:55
Speaker 5: and you can see quite clearly there going from India
56:58
Speaker 5: through the Uaaudi Arabia, using Palestinian territory, Palestinian gas of course,
57:05
Speaker 5: to create the free trade zone in Gaza, linking into
57:10
Speaker 5: Greece bypassing Cypress there. But of course Israel is stealth
57:15
Speaker 5: occupying Cypress with the help of the Greek separate government.
57:21
Speaker 5: So basically what we're looking at and what we have
57:24
Speaker 5: to keep an eye on, is this in term plan
57:30
Speaker 5: by the Collective West, the GCC, the Gulf state countries
57:34
Speaker 5: that of course are captured by the Zionist bloc Tony
57:38
Speaker 5: Blair and Jared Kushner and so on, and see everything
57:43
Speaker 5: that is occurring in the region as being very much
57:46
Speaker 5: part of this.
57:48
Speaker 2: Thank you, Vanessa, thank you. We're going to end today
57:51
Speaker 2: with a little bit of vaccine news. So six days
57:54
Speaker 2: ago the Center for Disease Control and the United States
57:58
Speaker 2: published this page in the website, and the first key
58:01
Speaker 2: point states that the claim vaccines do not cause autism
58:06
Speaker 2: is not an evidence based claim because studies have not
58:09
Speaker 2: ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism. And
58:13
Speaker 2: they go on to say that ITHHS has launched a
58:16
Speaker 2: comprehensive assessment of the causes of v autism, including investigations
58:21
Speaker 2: on plausible biologic mechanisms and potential causal risks, and they
58:26
Speaker 2: say that the webpage shill be updated with gold standard
58:28
Speaker 2: science results from the HHS comprehensive assessment from the Causes
58:31
Speaker 2: of votism, as required by the Data Quality Act. Well,
58:35
Speaker 2: that posting has garnered quite a response from the MHRA.
58:40
Speaker 2: Here in the UK, they're clearly very upset about it.
58:43
Speaker 2: Here's doctor Alison kiv, the MHRA CFTY Officer. She says
58:48
Speaker 2: multiple large, well conducted studies involving millions of children worldwide
58:52
Speaker 2: have consistently demonstrated that there's no evidence that vaccines cause
58:56
Speaker 2: autism in children. She went on to say vaccination remains
59:00
Speaker 2: one of the most effective and safest ways there you
59:02
Speaker 2: have it to protect against serious and potentially life threatening diseases,
59:06
Speaker 2: supported by decades of scientific evidence in the UK and internationally.
59:12
Speaker 2: But don't worry because patient safety is her top priority.
59:15
Speaker 2: The MHRA encourages anyone to report suspected side effects to
59:20
Speaker 2: them via the MHRA Yellow Card scheme. Charles how Well
59:25
Speaker 2: did that work during the covidocracy.
59:29
Speaker 3: I can't really imagine it going any worse, frankly, and
59:32
Speaker 3: I mean even now, I think five years on, the
59:34
Speaker 3: number of people that actually are aware that there was
59:37
Speaker 3: a yellow card scheme, I think is still absolutely miniscule.
59:41
Speaker 2: Yes, but clearly they're very upset with what Robert Kennedy's doing.
59:47
Speaker 2: And we'll keep everybody posted on how that develops, but
59:51
Speaker 2: we're going to leave it there for today. So I'm
59:53
Speaker 2: going to say thank you very much Charles and Vanessa
59:55
Speaker 2: for joining me, thank you all for watching. If your
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