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Hour Two | Saints Depth Concerns & Predicting the Offense · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench. We have Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the plays get broken down, then science gets denied.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in.
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  Speaker 4: We did have some preseason action as we step away the.
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  Speaker 3: First time from Saints win. They did not win. It's
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  Speaker 3: a pre season again. They almost got a field goal.
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  Speaker 4: They did try to not have the shutout, and I
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  Speaker 4: did see a lot of Saints fans kind of having
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of a meltdown over the weekend, and like,
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  Speaker 4: I get it. You don't want your team to go
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  Speaker 4: out there and lose by five touchdowns and it's the Rams,
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  Speaker 4: And so I think that even adds to it, because
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  Speaker 4: you're like, can we compete against teams like that? Again,
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  Speaker 4: I would go more to the joint practice reports against
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  Speaker 4: Jacksonville and Dallas in LA than I would a preseason
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  Speaker 4: game because Tyler Schuck was throwing passes right, a Chan
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  Speaker 4: was running the football, Like, we can go over who's in,
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  Speaker 4: who was out, all of those things.
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  Speaker 5: But is it a good look?
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  Speaker 4: No, it's not. Is it a good feeling, Absolutely it's not.
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  Speaker 4: This is going to be the depth of your team.
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  Speaker 4: But you're a little banged up right now, so your
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  Speaker 4: depth has changed. So you're not gonna have the guys
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  Speaker 4: that are probably gonna be counted on to be rotational
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  Speaker 4: pieces in this game at a couple of different positions.
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  Speaker 4: I understand that, but I can also understand you saying, gosh,
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  Speaker 4: it's just going.
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  Speaker 3: To be more of the same.
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  Speaker 4: I get that feeling, But I would say go back,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, Nick Underhill does a fantastic job, Ross
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  Speaker 4: Jackson does a fantastic job. All these great Saints writers
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  Speaker 4: that we have, Kat Tarrell of breaking down the joint
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  Speaker 4: practices and so I would definitely check out those reports.
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  Speaker 4: But if you want to talk about the game, it
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  Speaker 4: was not great for all the fans of Zach Wilson
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  Speaker 4: after what he did in one preseason game. You saw
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  Speaker 4: that go six of twelve for fifty five yards four
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  Speaker 4: point six yards in attempt at an interception and took
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  Speaker 4: a sack as well. Now Spencer Raler came in and it
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  Speaker 4: looked like, okay, this looks a lot better, but he
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  Speaker 4: did have a bad interception that turned into a pick
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  Speaker 4: six on the goal line. Ken dre Miller was your
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  Speaker 4: lead back in this game. Ty Chandler, who had a
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  Speaker 4: great kickoff return, had a good run until it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: when he fumbled put the ball on the ground. So
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  Speaker 4: there's not a lot to take from this game that
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna feel great about just not going to happen
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  Speaker 4: because it wasn't there. You start to look at how
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  Speaker 4: the Rams performed compared to how you did. You're never
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  Speaker 4: going to look at this and say I feel better
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  Speaker 4: about it. I and I understand that, but again, just
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  Speaker 4: look at who was in the game, who played for
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  Speaker 4: the New Orleans Saints, and how many of those players
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  Speaker 4: are truly going to play whenever it's live bullets.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and this see there's there's there's common themes to
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  Speaker 6: the Saints' performance right now, and some of them, even
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  Speaker 6: though it's not the starter's plane, it is reminiscent to
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  Speaker 6: last year and things that they needed improve on. You
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  Speaker 6: talk about red zone offense again, they get inside the
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  Speaker 6: twenty yard line three times and come away with no points.
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  Speaker 6: Injuries are popping up, that's obviously something that is very frustrating.
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  Speaker 6: Penalties in this last game, so a discipline situation. Twelve
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  Speaker 6: penalties and this in the game against the against the Rams.
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  Speaker 6: So you know, it's little things, and it's things that
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  Speaker 6: you can you know, as a coaching staff and as
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  Speaker 6: a front office and hopefully as a fan base too,
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  Speaker 6: you can write off to it, you know, being guys
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  Speaker 6: that a lot of people playing are not going to
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  Speaker 6: be on the team in a week. So it's uh,
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  Speaker 6: you can write that off. But it's still like the
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  Speaker 6: discipline thing, the penalty thing.
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  Speaker 5: The penalty thing is probably the thing that's most alarming
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  Speaker 5: to me.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that is sometimes that comes down to It's not
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  Speaker 6: just because the backups. There's a discipline. There is a
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  Speaker 6: culture that needs to be bred within those walls. There
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  Speaker 6: is leadership that has to take over. You know, offensive line,
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  Speaker 6: I get it, the starting your starting corps might not
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  Speaker 6: be playing but a couple of plays in the preseason game,
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  Speaker 6: but like their leadership and the accountability in an offensive
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  Speaker 6: line room. You know how tight offensive line rooms are,
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  Speaker 6: Like it's like one of the closest groups in all
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  Speaker 6: the team. Like that has to transfer to even the backups,
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  Speaker 6: and sometimes they're even if guys aren't going to be
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  Speaker 6: on the team, Like it's that stuff's worrisome.
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  Speaker 2: Like, but all this, all this.
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  Speaker 6: Stuff, all this, all these penalties, all these things get
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  Speaker 6: washed once Week one comes, once the final cuts and
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  Speaker 6: the final roster, the dust settles on training camp, all
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  Speaker 6: that stuff gets forgotten. But that one thing that's going
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  Speaker 6: to linger is is the injuries right now. And they
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  Speaker 6: just seem to keep piling up. And my god, and
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  Speaker 6: it's something that you knew. Injuries happen. There's gonna be
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  Speaker 6: people that are gonna be out for an extended period
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  Speaker 6: of time. There's you're gonna lose a guy or two
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  Speaker 6: for the season. People are gonna be banged up coming
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  Speaker 6: into week one.
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 6: The Saints couldn't afford to have many because, like we've
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  Speaker 6: talked about it going into training camp and even at
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  Speaker 6: the beginning of training camp, Uh, the starting twenty two
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  Speaker 6: can line up and play at least with anybody, maybe
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  Speaker 6: not the Rams, but they can play with anybody. But
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  Speaker 6: once you start getting into the backups and things like that,
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  Speaker 6: that's the depth is going to be the issue, and
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  Speaker 6: how healthy can the Saints be is going to really
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  Speaker 6: have a big determining factor on how successful they're They're
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  Speaker 6: what they're ceiling could be this season. And it's not
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  Speaker 6: looking great so far. But hopefully it turns around and
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  Speaker 6: hopefully a lot of these guys get back, But right
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  Speaker 6: now it seems to be an issue, and it's something
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  Speaker 6: that's plagued the Saints for a while.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that depth was what we were really
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  Speaker 4: excited about whenever it came to the Saints this year
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  Speaker 4: compared to where they were in the year's past, because
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  Speaker 4: you had guys behind your starters that you feel good about.
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  Speaker 4: Let's take the receiver room, right, Tyson lave Vele felt
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  Speaker 4: really good about that, and then Brown Lance and you know,
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  Speaker 4: any combination above means Kevin Alston junior, whoever that was,
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  Speaker 4: like Trey Palmer, that looked completely different than what you
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  Speaker 4: had before. Well, you know, Berrin Brown's dealing with an injury,
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Tyson's out for two months.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, okay, there goes some of that depth.
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  Speaker 4: You felt really good about the running back position, But
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  Speaker 4: think about how beat up you've been there. Rodrick estimated
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  Speaker 4: Devin neil ak all out and Kendre Miller finally gets
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  Speaker 4: back and he's got to be thrown kind of into
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  Speaker 4: the fire there. So that depth piece that you really
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  Speaker 4: liked their running back, well, that's kind of gone away.
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  Speaker 4: Like we could go down defensive tackle. You know, you
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  Speaker 4: had Brian Brazi to start the season, and you had
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  Speaker 4: Christian Miller, who you drafted in the second round. Brazil's
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  Speaker 4: out for the year, Christian Miller's missed some time. So
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  Speaker 4: the depth that you had that we were praising the
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  Speaker 4: Saints for putting together because they did a really nice
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  Speaker 4: job well almost every position that you go to outside
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  Speaker 4: of quarterback, because at least those guys have been healthy.
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  Speaker 4: It's gone away because of injury.
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  Speaker 7: Well what's their substation situation looking like?
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  Speaker 2: Not great.
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  Speaker 3: Practicing in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 8: Did you mention the trade was I was a little no,
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  Speaker 8: we didn't mention the Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: They added a running back.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah from the raid the raided, which might not be
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  Speaker 9: great for the Raiders.
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  Speaker 3: Now Fashi and Genty went down.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think they thought it was a knee
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  Speaker 4: to begin with with, I think it's an ankle.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, well they said it was weird. They're like, he
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  Speaker 9: suffered a knee injury diving out for a pass. And
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  Speaker 9: I don't know how that would have happened. But I
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  Speaker 9: told you guys over the weekend, like I didn't care
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  Speaker 9: if the Saints got chilled out.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to avoid injuries.
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  Speaker 9: Rinzo Styles, but means who played great, He's has a
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  Speaker 9: hamstring injury. Now great, add that to your receiving corps.
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  Speaker 9: Torris Selly Simpkins on the O line, Dylan Raiden's already
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  Speaker 9: out for the year. Your debth there has gone to me, dude,
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  Speaker 9: it's one thing after another.
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  Speaker 2: Can you use forfeit the last preseason.
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  Speaker 9: Game, I don't know why they wouldn't go for I
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  Speaker 9: mean it didn't count for nothing.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, if people keep getting hurt in it, like what
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  Speaker 7: are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: Also, why do we keep.
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  Speaker 3: Getting hurt a position you cannot afford? You can't afford it.
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  Speaker 6: I was watching like I was watching I think last
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  Speaker 6: night the Packers play, and like starting running backs for
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  Speaker 6: the Broncos and the Packers and wide receivers, these are
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  Speaker 6: your starters on potentially Super Bowl teams at least teams
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  Speaker 6: with high expectations, and playoff teams for sure. They're getting
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  Speaker 6: tackled and I think R. J. Harvey got like drop
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  Speaker 6: what they call it the the hip drop from behind
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  Speaker 6: and like this is preseason. These guys are taking shots
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  Speaker 6: to the knees and getting tackled from behind and stuff.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, oh my god, I'm watching the game holding
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  Speaker 6: my breath for them. I got no stake in either
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  Speaker 6: one of these teams. I want to see those players
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  Speaker 6: play in the real season. And man, they were not
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  Speaker 6: taking it easy easy on each other last night.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I think we should get rid of the
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  Speaker 4: preseason games. Each team has three joint practices.
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  Speaker 10: Take.
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  Speaker 4: Put in game.
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  Speaker 7: What if the viewership on a preseason game like real you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what background fodder? Do you say?
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  Speaker 6: They still charge full price and they wonder people want
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  Speaker 6: and they want to keep that ticket, make them pay
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  Speaker 6: to go to Like I'd go watch practice where there's
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  Speaker 6: a chance to have a Fightble.
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  Speaker 3: Would go watch practice. Couldn't we started Bucky Irving? Remember
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  Speaker 3: all the injuries he dealt with last year. Why the
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  Speaker 3: hell is Bucky Irving played in pre.
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  Speaker 2: Season or script like, just don't do live.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: It sucks, like when you have all this and you're
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  Speaker 6: going into the season and you don't have Like the
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  Speaker 6: NFL is valuable because of its star power, right, that's
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  Speaker 6: what makes it. Props it up to be like you,
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  Speaker 6: you're taking a chance of losing stars kind of stakes.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, nobody really likes the preseason, but it's a value.
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  Speaker 7: I have not watched the second of them. I'm not
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  Speaker 7: about to lie to you and say that I have.
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  Speaker 4: I mean i've I've had to. Yeah, and even then
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't dialed in.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I don't go anymore. I'm just at home all
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  Speaker 9: the time. I had it on a to do list
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  Speaker 9: to watch the Saints. I didn't get scratched off there.
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  Speaker 3: It's still there.
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  Speaker 2: It's still on.
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  Speaker 7: Come across your desk.
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  Speaker 9: I'm just gonna keep it on there so I have
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  Speaker 9: it for next Okay, Well, mean take the injuries out
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  Speaker 9: of it. Look at the areas people were probably watching
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  Speaker 9: the preseason ease. I just scored at matter. It's oh
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  Speaker 9: backup quarterback battle between Spencer Bradler and Zach Wilson.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 9: None of them played good kicking battle. You try to
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  Speaker 9: field goal at the very end to end the shutout.
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  Speaker 9: And Tanner Brown, who looked like he was separated himself
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  Speaker 9: in the kicking competition, missus a thirty yard field goal,
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  Speaker 9: Like he shanked that, So what's that going to look like?
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  Speaker 9: Bryce Lance, he was running with the wide receiver two
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  Speaker 9: in practice, get two catches for sixteen yards. Nothing you
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  Speaker 9: wanted to see as a Saints fan went right for
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  Speaker 9: you on Saturday. Nothing that doesn't matter scoreboard wise, but
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  Speaker 9: like it's slightly.
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  Speaker 11: Concerning for sure, especially like the fact that we were like,
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  Speaker 11: we feel so much better going into this season than
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  Speaker 11: we did last season. Yeah, I still I still do
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  Speaker 11: to be fair because I guess you can't take too
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  Speaker 11: much away from preseason game like we've been saying. But
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  Speaker 11: it's just funny like Jake, you brought up to classic Saints,
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  Speaker 11: you brought up.
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  Speaker 9: Being a two man race like in the NFC South,
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  Speaker 9: And like I think most people it's not just the Saints,
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  Speaker 9: Like a Meccagoca is the only the turf two right now,
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  Speaker 9: and and they think that's going to linger, Like what
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  Speaker 9: does that look like? That's their number one guy? But
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  Speaker 9: it just seems like everything like Quincy Riley's out. You
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  Speaker 9: were already terrible at corner.
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  Speaker 3: Now he's out. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, we're a week away from having no complaints. We're
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  Speaker 6: gonna be in week one, Daddy. We're gonna forget all
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  Speaker 6: this preseason stuff. I can't wait for it.
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  Speaker 7: I can't wait for the to make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 10: Tyler Shuck's gonna go off if they if if they
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  Speaker 10: are healthy, that's the biggest if, because they just haven't
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  Speaker 10: been able to stay.
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  Speaker 4: They haven't they It will be them and the Buccaneers.
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  Speaker 4: I truly believe it, fighting to the very end. And
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  Speaker 4: we laid out the Saints' schedule that back end. Four
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  Speaker 4: of your final five games are NFC South opponents. It's
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  Speaker 4: going to be decided late in the season. And if
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  Speaker 4: they're healthy at that point, I like the Saints, and
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  Speaker 4: if they're beat up like they have penth in camp,
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna limp to the finish.
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  Speaker 6: It's just they're healthy, you like them. If they're not,
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  Speaker 6: you don't like them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because right now, some of their big depth pieces
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  Speaker 4: look like they're going to be out for the entire time.
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  Speaker 4: And that's one of the things that we really loved
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  Speaker 4: about what they did in the off season, so their
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  Speaker 4: health and you can you can make the argument. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: well you can say about every team. There's some teams
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  Speaker 4: that have incredible death that they could take, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a loss here, a loss there. Right now, the Saints,
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  Speaker 4: all that depth is being highly tested. So if you
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  Speaker 4: stay healthy with the Saints, I like the first twenty
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  Speaker 4: two out.
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  Speaker 7: I do plus one eighty four to make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: Oo, Okay, I don't hate that.
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  Speaker 7: That's not awful.
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  Speaker 3: I don't hate that.
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  Speaker 2: I like it better at two twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Five, me too.
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  Speaker 7: But I mean for like the Saints to be plus
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  Speaker 7: one thirty four.
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  Speaker 6: If you're gonna bet, if you're gonna bet the futures,
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  Speaker 6: I would wait till a week or week three oh three. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: let them go over to Beau. There's a big there's
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  Speaker 6: probably there's probably better than good chance that it doesn't
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  Speaker 6: start out great, just because the way the schedule lines up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you got the Lions and the Ravens.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, now, what are the Ravens gonna They still got
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  Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson, so they're gonna be solid.
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  Speaker 6: But let me get it, let me get a couple
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  Speaker 6: of losses under their belt. Then take that futures.
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  Speaker 7: So I'll let them lose to the Lions, let them
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  Speaker 7: lose to the Ravens. They'll beat the Raiders, ye get
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  Speaker 7: it before the Raiders. They'll beat the Falcons too, so.
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  Speaker 4: They get it after every week the Ravens struggle with
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  Speaker 4: when I I was there that I think the Saints
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna have a hard time with Chase Young.
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  Speaker 11: Everybody's gonna have a hard time with Chase About to
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  Speaker 11: have a year, dude.
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  Speaker 9: There's a lot of hype around the Ravens and there's
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  Speaker 9: a lot of new in that building, like yeah, Kyle
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  Speaker 9: Hamilton awesome, Lamar Jackson awesome, Derek Henry doesn't age. There's
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  Speaker 9: a lot of new pieces that were replaced in first
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  Speaker 9: some head coach, a lot of hyper on that team.
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  Speaker 2: Launders sacks, Chase Young, how.
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  Speaker 7: Many a million? The first to hit a million?
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  Speaker 3: It might be a record.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say fourteen, fourteen sacks you can put over
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  Speaker 4: and at thirteen and.
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  Speaker 7: A half, yep, I'm taking over twenty.
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking the over.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go twelve sacks.
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  Speaker 5: We had ten last year, right, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Hold my beer, Miles Garrett, you I'm going twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: If if Chase Young plays in all seventeen games.
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  Speaker 9: If A Launder's correct, he only needs fifty eight thousand
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  Speaker 9: sacks per me.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know if they're going to run enough
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  Speaker 3: plays for the but.
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  Speaker 7: The second, the whole entire game, fifty.
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  Speaker 3: Eight eight hundred per game.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you know, at some point you're probably just
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  Speaker 9: gonna take a knee at some point.
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  Speaker 7: Better off, he's gonna be tired.
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  Speaker 2: Good year, Good year. Maybe he'll play for LSC next year.
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  Speaker 3: After this year. It depends on what depends what he does.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I did see a former SEC quarterback say
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  Speaker 4: that he feels like he has another year of eligibility left.
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  Speaker 4: Do you pavia no place for Taylor's favorite school, Texas
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  Speaker 4: A and m jesus Kellen man no time.
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  Speaker 9: King mm hmmm, fifty eight thousand per game.
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  Speaker 5: We come back, when we come back, like Tyler.
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  Speaker 4: Shuck okay yards, MVP touchdowns, eight h rushing yards, a
• 17:37
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• 17:42
  Speaker 4: what that a million is achievable, or twenty five sacks for.
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  Speaker 7: Kendrick gonna have a thousand yard season, all.
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  Speaker 3: All right. So a year ago, Tyler Shuck.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Eleven games played th four twenty three eighty four, twenty
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: three and eighty four yards.
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  Speaker 5: He had ten touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: We didn't play full season. Spencer Rattler, as we know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: started the first half of the season. So let's put
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: some numbers to it. What do we think it's going
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: to look like for Tyler Shuck if he plays a
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: full seventeen game season.
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  Speaker 6: What numbers would we like to go. We're gonna put
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: our money where our mouth is here. We've been talking
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: them up. We've been talking about the receiving corps the depth,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: the improvements the year one to two jump. Is it
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: time for to make our our first predictions for the
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: NFL football season?
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  Speaker 3: I think so? Oh boy, I think so we have
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: like we're going down.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: These are going to be etched into stone and they're
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: going to be turnover chain worthy type predictions.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm excited.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know that, you know, I'm not
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: trying to get outlandish and have them only be like
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: turnover chain like. I want them to be kind of
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: some real ones. I don't think Xavier legeds get into
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: a thousand yards.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: No, these aren't bold predictions. We're just you know, we're
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: just gonna see who knows ball. I guess, okay a
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: little bit.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: All right, well let's start with Tyler Shuck.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Let's go around the room.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: We'll go yards, and we'll also go touchdowns.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: I'll start with one. Yeah, I'll start with yards. When
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: we're talking about a full seventeen, I let's go with
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: I'll go with the breaks of four thousand, mark, I'm
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: the forty one hundred yards.
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: Whoa can I say?
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: That's very bold bold?
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's that bad.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: I was gonna go like that's pretty bold.
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: If he plays all seventeen, I think that's like thirty
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: five games.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: It's not that bold. I mean if he plays seventeen.
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: Which is a rare d I was going to go
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: four thousand, like straight out, I'll go for forty one
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: hundred and I'll go okay, I'll go twenty eight touchdowns.
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, actually, and I'm not going like crazy high
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: on touchdowns because of red zone struggles. Yeah, but with
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: a lot of yards in between. Twenty five in the
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: red dune.
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: All right, all right, wait, so how many games do
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: you play? Last season?
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: He played an eleven, but I think he started seven.
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: Okay, okay, And that feels more reasonable than like Jordan.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Plays more than half the games.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: There's there's some big games out there for them to have,
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: playing on turf in a dome.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I guess that was gonna go a little conservative, and
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: just I'm thinking two running backs that are gonna get
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: you know, if Camera comes back healthy, they're gonna get
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: heavy touches.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: So I am going to go thirty five.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: To fifty okay, three yards in twenty five.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Toutters, twenty five totters, okay, yep.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: Thirty five to fifty for yards, twenty.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: Five toutters for Tyler show you don't believe it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like I do, I do.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I think I think he's gonna have single digit interceptions
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: as well, So something like twenty five to seven in
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: thirty five to fifty.
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: All right, Well I'll go a little higher.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like Jalen Hurts last year through for
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: thirty two hundred, Aaron Rodgers was thirty three hundred. They
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: played sixteen games a piece. Okay, so I mean it's
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: not a bad year.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: They have thirty five to fifty. Bo Nix was like
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: thirty nine and change.
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: I'll go thirty eight hundred yards, okay, twenty.
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  Speaker 7: Three touchdowns, twenty three touchdowns.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, red zone struggles.
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: M hmm.
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: Let me see if there's a all right t Yeah,
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: I was, I was gonna go right at four thousand.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I'll drop it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: I'll go thirty nine to fifty yards, twenty seven touchdowns,
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: eight interceptions.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, So we're right.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: We're about the same on the touchdowns, which is about
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: one and a half touchdowns per game, which I think
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: is pretty conservative. I mean, for a seventeen game, starter's
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: good year. So thirty nine to fifty you're gonna have
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: You're gonna have the threes and four games that you
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: know sprinkle in there. Yeah, for sure, you'll have a couple.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: There was only there was only six quarterbacks in the
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: NFL that threw for over four thousand yards last year. Yeah,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, Sam Darnold, Drake may, Dak Prescott, Jared Golf,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: That's good year for defenses.
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: So I'm looking at draft Kings. His line is set
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: at thirty four fifty d you basically okay, thirty four
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: to forty nine point five.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: Well, it does kind of match with like there's there's
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: ebbs and flows in NFL when it comes to types
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: of offenses that are being run the types of defense,
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: it's it's a roller coaster. There's some years where defenses ahead,
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: the offense has to catch up. They got a retool.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: Then the offense ahead the defense has to retool to
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: what they're doing. Now we are seeing a higher proclivity
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: for NFL offenses to go under center, which has been
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: a very popular topic I feel like in the national media,
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: which is awesome. It's it's incredible to have a good
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: balance of shotgun and underneath under center, which you don't
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: get in the college game. It's just all it's all
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: shotgun all high in high school, it's all shotguns. Some
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: middle schools are doing all shotgun like, so there is
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: less and less teams doing it. But NFL you got
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: the those old school coaches man and and bringing back
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: the under center, which provides a big advantages for offense.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: But to the point, there's probably quarterbacks thrown for a
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: little bit, yes, less yards, and offense is being a
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: little bit more balanced than the NFL. But you know what,
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: I think Tyler's gonna do it forty one hundred well
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: on the dot too, on the nose.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: All right, Let's go to Travis a Chan junior and
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: his rushing total. Now, last year he had one and
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: seven yards with two hundred and sixty carries when he
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: was at Jacksonville Juguar.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: He's been pretty consistent with the thousand over thousand yard season.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: So I'm gonna I'm gonna give him another thousand yarder.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna give him twelve hundred twelve hundred.
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: Ooh man, I'm going concer. I'm the conservative one on
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: Travis a Chain. I guess I'll go nine to twenty three.
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: I just think Kamara is gonna still have a role.
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: If Estimate is healthy, He's gonna have a role. I mean, yeah,
• 26:53
  Speaker 9: he changed the lead back for sure, But I mean
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: there's there's some carries that are gonna split up now.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: He had he had some guys and Jackson did have
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: some carries last year.
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: He did. Yeah, I mean there is one season that
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: he had.
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: Five hundred and fifty eight and he didn't play all Yeah,
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: what do you played eleven games?
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: So I'm like that, huh, he.
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: Only had one hundred and fifty carries.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna him with the eights. He's gonna
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: have eight hundred and eighty eight yards. Okay, but guess
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: what's Gordon, He's going to get close to five hundred receiving.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so so I got him touchdowns.
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: All purpose, all right, I'll say double digit touchdowns between
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: rushing and receiving.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: But I was thinking rushing total is a little bit lower.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: He gotta eight out of the backfield, they said on nothing.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Don't even know how much many receptions he had last year.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: He might have feet for him.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: He had a lot of idea thirty six. He can
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: catch you.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: When he got drafted, iermin Meyer even said we might
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: play him in the slot.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, five receiving is that right? Then numbers pulled up?
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Was it five receiving touchdowns a year ago?
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: I don't know. He had seven touchdowns total.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: So thirteen hundred all purpose yards if we do, if
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: he gets to that, maybe close to fourteen hundred doll
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: privacy yards, that's a successful Yeah, that's a successful move roster.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: But he's gonna have twelve hundred on the ground. That's
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: what's going. Okay, So here you go.
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: He had seven rushing, six receiving last year. Said get
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: thirteen sales last year?
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: All right, Chris Olave receiving yards last year, a hundred
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: catches on the dot, played in sixteen games one and
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: sixty three.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: I'm going thirteen hundred.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: Oh was gonna I was gonna go twelve hundred. So
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: we're right there. Elave is still the guy. Tyson's gonna
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: be banged up like Alave is the guy. We're going
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: twelve sixty nine.
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: Okay, ummmm, he's gonna get that bonus.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: She paid him to like, he's gonna have that year.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: He's gonna have a year man fifty Okay, as a
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: Oscar at sixteen hundred, that's like, what is the record?
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: What's the record?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: A million million? Here we go.
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: He's gonna have fifty eight thousand yards per game, hurt
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: and Chase huk is gonna have that in sects. Wow,
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: the scenes are gonna be unnes are gonna be pretty good, guys.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I am bullish on their weapons, Like just watching them
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: going against a really good defense. I think offensively that
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: first unit's gonna be hell on wheels when they're all
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: out there. I really do.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: If they're out there.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Well, even if Tyson's not, because that practice that I
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: was at against Jacksonville, he left that practice, but he
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: wasn't the story.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: It was a lave in Vele and ah Chan and
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Oscar Delp had a night play.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Lance had a nice play on Travis Hunters, like it
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: wasn't just Jordan Tyson like again, like he really didn't
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: even factor into.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: The practice, but they dominated him.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: They did.
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  Speaker 6: But I thought the coach should be fired after because
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: they lost the preseason game.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Some what have you believe?
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: Wait? Who yeah, because he's nerdy.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Because they lost the preseason game.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: And nerdy, like you can lose the preseason game. He
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: can't be both true.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, true, you lost both of them.
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: They lost both preseason games, but blew a lead in
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: the first one.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: This one.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: I do believe there was a year where they went
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: oh in four, maybe even in the preseason or one
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: in three, and they went thirteen and three that year.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: So what you're saying preseason scores don't matter.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you the outcome of any preseason game
• 30:53
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• 30:55
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• 30:59
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  Speaker 6: So I didn't look like I was walking as fast
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  Speaker 7: Did you feel fast? Because it wasn't translating at all.
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  Speaker 4: It was funny like yesterday, every time he went to
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  Speaker 4: go pick something up, like three people were like no.
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  Speaker 6: No no no no no no no no no.
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  Speaker 7: I walked in and he was holding that blanket.
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  Speaker 3: You are sitting on that.
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  Speaker 11: And I'm like, I'm guessing your back doesn't feel any better.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah it is blinky.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, oh, Jake, you you would have loved this. I
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  Speaker 9: had to adjust the camera because it rains. So of
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  Speaker 9: course we lost power over the weekend, and I was like, mad,
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  Speaker 9: I need you to get up.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta fix the camera. He goes, can't you just
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  Speaker 3: choose Jake's side on that side?
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  Speaker 7: But I didn't rain. I completely missed.
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  Speaker 9: It formed in my house Friday and Saturday didn't rain
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  Speaker 9: over the house.
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  Speaker 3: I must have been here.
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  Speaker 2: It's still brown grass.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I had to like beat the rain yesterday morning. Cut
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: it is. You're doomed and you just don't know.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: This is a This drought.
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: Is a no like I'm telling you it's not rained here.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you it's the meth labs by your with
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: you the drought for like a month, but like four
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: days last week it poured at my house.
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: We live here. How are you gonna tell us?
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: I did see, I did see. I heard the thunder.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: I saw the clouds, and that's happened like three times.
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  Speaker 7: Came down five.
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  Speaker 3: Weeks like Big Joey and the Chad. Friday was brutal.
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  Speaker 3: It was poured by y'all.
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  Speaker 2: You live in the LP too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he does it was he.
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: Was trying to keep that context out. It's been hot.
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: I would I would welcome the rain to just cool
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  Speaker 7: my house down.
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  Speaker 6: Some rain bad. I'm also looking forward to, like just October, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The best month.
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  Speaker 9: In the morning, I saw a video that said when
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  Speaker 9: the months ended, burr, you know you've made it, and
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  Speaker 9: I was like, syptime to December is actually really good.
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  Speaker 6: So mm hmm, let me just ended and r. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: Looks like it.
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  Speaker 2: I had.
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  Speaker 6: I had this thing whipped too. I was feeling good
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  Speaker 6: when people weren't looking yesterday. I was moving things around
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  Speaker 6: kind of sure, Bud, not little things, of course.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you and Harlowe were moving the pillows. Great job though,
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  Speaker 4: y'all did it. Y'all did a great job of doing it, No, Bud,
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  Speaker 4: those pillows have never moved so fast.
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  Speaker 2: This is it.
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  Speaker 7: Hello, there it goes. The new running back.
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  Speaker 2: Move those pillows.
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  Speaker 7: We just got him, got it.
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  Speaker 4: That is sir White, who you got from the Las
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Vegas Raiders.
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  Speaker 5: Now, you did have to trade former l s.
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  Speaker 4: U longtime NFL linebacker Dion Jones to get Zamir White.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: But you know Dion signed late in training camp. It
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: was going to be an uphill battle for him to
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: make the roster. And you need some running backs right
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: now because, as we talked about earlier, your depth has
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: been tested, to say the least in the preseason. As
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: a mirror, White is twelfth curious for.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Twenty nine yards. He was good. He was such a
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: good back at Georgia. He had two years ago.
• 38:18
  Speaker 9: He had that four hundred and fifty yard year where
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: he averaged like five yards of carry.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: The Raiders paid him a ton. He just he lost
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: his starting job to a mirror.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Do a little bit.
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: He's like two thirty. He's a power back. I mean,
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: he's a hard runner.
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  Speaker 3: He's sorry.
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  Speaker 5: I want to make sure he's You know him from
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: the Raiders.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: He was with the forty nine ers, but his playing days,
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: like Taylor just said, it was with the uh the
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Las Vegas Raiders.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: That's where he was.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: At one time. He looked like he was gonna be
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: like Taylor said, he was gonna be their lead back,
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: be their lead guy. But twelve for twenty nine in
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: the preseason, it's gonna be you know, it's a depth
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: piece for Deebo Jones to make your team is gonna
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: be a long shot thing for Zamir White. If you
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: don't get healthy, maybe makes your initial fifty three. If
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: you get healthy, he probably won't be on your fifty three.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: That's just kind of where he's at in his career.
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: Taylor, you said you were home a lot this weekend.
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: You got a newborn. Shout out to Razor. I'm assuming
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: you watched a decent amount of preseason. Anything stick out
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: to you. It's we've talked about preseason, the importance of it,
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: and we don't tune in quite a bit, and I
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: know you were able to watch quite a bit. Anything
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: like stuck out to even from any team.
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the Raiders actually, speaking of kind of Zamir White.
• 39:37
  Speaker 9: We talked about Ash and Genty going down with that injury,
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: me ankle. Do you know they're called a lot of
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: different things. Mike Washington Junior is a really good running.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Pack and they really like him.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they like.
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: Him in in Vegas. He's done a really nice job.
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: And like if Gendy has the miss times like Mike
• 39:58
  Speaker 9: Washington can't make it happen.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: Are the Raiders intriguing for any reason? No other than
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: they're young.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: The Raiders have to play the other three teams in
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: the a f C West, but they also have to
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: play the NFC West this year. That's tough for them.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Them and the Cardinals hurt somebody's feelings.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I was like the broadcast man the Broncos.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: I watched the first drive yesterday, Bo Knicks and company.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: They sliced through the Packers defense like they were like,
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: it was better.
• 40:30
  Speaker 9: He had Jaylen Waddle for that thirty five yarder. That's
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: that's that's their first in game connection. It's gonna be
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: such a good addition.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: To what that team is gonna be.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: He's gonna be so good the West.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: The West is going to be so good on both sides.
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: You got six or four Courtland Sutton on the other
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: side with a Jaylen Waddle Like that's that's gonna be hones.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I think l fans are just realizing now is a
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: good quarterback.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: And it's weird.
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: It's like it's almost like you played well in college
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: team mat It's strange.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: The thing is kind of stood out to me in
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: the preseason is and it happens every year, and I
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: just kind of laugh, Like Drew Aller had a monster
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: first game in the preseason and everybody's like, is he
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: gonna take over Karon in trouble? And it's like, guys,
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: it's it's the first preseason game. They played cover three
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: and quarters, quarter quarter a.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: Half, Okay, whoa they played some Cover six too, Okay.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: They almost blitzed, and.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: It's okay, Like, you're a rookie, you're not supposed to
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: be This last game he was eleven of twenty three
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: for one hundred and ten yards four yards per attempt,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: and took three sacks for negative thirty yards.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: What it is you're a rookie.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Like, we don't anoint a rookie after one game, and
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: don't throw him away after one game.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: It's a rookie.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: And don't anoint a third or fourth string quarterback for
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: throwing two touchdowns at the fourth quarter.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Oh they're doing they're doing it.
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: Joe Milton in Dallas for sure. Oh you're gonna hear
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: he carved up the Cardinals back on and it's the
• 42:01
  Speaker 9: Joe Milton.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: Chew it is, I mean, because you do in times
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: like that, you see talent stand out.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Every quarterback in the NFL is talented. They all have.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Everybody in your favorite term arm talent.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: Taylor they all have arm talent, they can all make
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: and even heard h I think as Max Crosby talking
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: about Fernando the other day in one of the preseason games.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: The first thing he said, He's like, he can make
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: all the throws. Of course he can make all is
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: it quarterback in the National Football League?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: They can all make all the throws.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: It's about it's about processing information, being able to deliver,
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: deliver the ball accurately on time to the right person,
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: not make a mistake, move the chains. That's what that's
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: what that's what makes a good quarterback. It's not at
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: that level. It's not about the talent. You're gonna make
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: every throw. It's about doing all the other things. And
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: you never really and you're not gonna You're gonna get
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: a glimpse of that in preseason, but you don't really
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: really truly know till it's ones on ones when it
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: matters most, when the whole playbook is opened up.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when all of a sudden you think that you're
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: seeing anything cover too, and all of a sudden they
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: rotate the last second and here comes zero.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: You're like, oh my god.
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: To disguise then anyway, And you get that in practice.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: That's the thing, like, that's why we talk about the
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: practice is so important. Yeah, but anyway, it is still
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: fun to watch the games.
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