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Big Stu-ey: Wear the Heisman Around Your Neck (w/Gino Toretta) · Stugotz and Company

• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Mikey, yeah, you will love the phone call I just
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: had with Gino Toretta because Gino was expecting, he's so
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: old school and he's in Northern California right now and
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: he'll be attending Stanford Miami tonight because he's a Heisman
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: Trophy winning quarterback for the University of Miami and a
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Miami legend and he also has The Cal-USC game, he's
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: calling it on Saturday night.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: I said, Gino, you get to go. You get the link.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: And he was like, hey, I was expecting a call
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: from a hard line. Do they even make those anymore?
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: I still have one in my house. Yes, they still
• 0:57
  Speaker 3: make them.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: So you thought we were supposed to send you the
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: hotline number. Is that correct? Yes.
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just expected a call.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: You know, it's radio.
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: I forgot there's video in this time of radio.
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: Gino, how much better is this year's Miami team as
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: opposed to last year's Miami team?
• 1:20
  Speaker 4: You know, I hope they're as good, I would say.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, they started off the year, they had
• 1:27
  Speaker 4: some expectations. I don't think maybe getting to the championship game,
• 1:31
  Speaker 4: but I think they thought they were getting the playoffs.
• 1:33
  Speaker 4: You know, and this year, I think they're thinking playoffs
• 1:36
  Speaker 4: at a minimum win the ACC. And then you hope
• 1:40
  Speaker 4: you kind of get on a run again. You know,
• 1:43
  Speaker 4: college football now, it's so long with 16 games, you're
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: going to win it all. It's similar to NFL. How
• 1:49
  Speaker 4: healthy are you when you make the playoffs? I mean,
• 1:51
  Speaker 4: Georgia was banged up. Alabama was banged up. You know,
• 1:54
  Speaker 4: it's just how do you once you get there, are
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  Speaker 4: you healthy enough to go on a run and win
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: a few more and win a title?
• 2:02
  Speaker 5: Gino, as a Heisman winning quarterback, what do you like
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  Speaker 5: about Darian Mensah, who Miami brings in from Duke this
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  Speaker 5: year from the transfer portal?
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  Speaker 3: His accuracy, very similar to Cam Ward.
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  Speaker 4: I like how he pushes the ball downfield as a
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  Speaker 4: guy who likes to throw it deep.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's kind of what they're looking for.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, you got Malachi Toney, who's You know, get him
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  Speaker 4: the ball one yard downfield, behind the line of scrimmage, wherever.
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  Speaker 4: He's going to have tremendous yards after catching great explosive plays.
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  Speaker 4: But I like how Mensah has always pushed the ball downfield,
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  Speaker 4: whether it was at Tulane last year or Duke, pushed
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  Speaker 4: it downfield. And that's, you know, that's big plays. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I like it. He seems like a very
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  Speaker 4: even-keeled kid, nice kid. The times I've met him, watched practice.
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  Speaker 4: So it should be fun offensively for them this year.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: Gino, what did you make of Rutgers as a 30-point
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  Speaker 1: favorite losing at home to UMass and then still going
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: forward with their fireworks show after the game?
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  Speaker 3: I would say this. Casinos aren't built on winners.
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  Speaker 2: But you have to pull the plug on fireworks, don't you?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you just lost to UMass at home as
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  Speaker 2: a 30-point favorite.
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  Speaker 3: I would say this. Was anybody still there? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what are you going to do? What's the
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  Speaker 3: pyrotechnic guys? He's already set up. He can't bring the
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  Speaker 3: stuff back home. You know that. So they got to
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  Speaker 3: shoot it off. And, you know, hey, I would say this.
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  Speaker 4: The crowd has been waiting for a show all night.
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  Speaker 3: We got to give them something. It's like you gave
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  Speaker 3: them some fireworks.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the UMass fans in attendance, they got a show.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think I would also say you get
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  Speaker 4: what you pay for. They are dead last at investing
• 3:56
  Speaker 4: in the program and in Rutgers as their personnel. So,
• 4:00
  Speaker 4: you know, if you're not paying for These kids nowadays,
• 4:03
  Speaker 4: they're not going to come to your school.
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  Speaker 2: I love the idea that Rutgers paid over a million
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  Speaker 2: dollars to lose that game. To UMass.
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  Speaker 4: Not going to be the first time, nor will it
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  Speaker 4: be the last time.
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  Speaker 2: No. We've been laughing all week. I've been saying it
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  Speaker 2: all week. That Stanford, there are sleeping giants in college football.
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  Speaker 1: And Stanford has the potential to be one of them
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  Speaker 1: because there's money in that school. The stadium is beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Great part of the country. a decent fan base. They're
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  Speaker 1: lacking one key ingredient, good players.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a key ingredient in a hundred of them, really
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  Speaker 4: good players.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, Andrew Luck is back there.
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  Speaker 4: They were very slow to adopt to the transfer portal,
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  Speaker 4: to the NIL age. I can remember being out here
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  Speaker 4: and I broadcasted USC at Stanford. It was Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 4: Heisman Trophy season, the start of his season, first game.
• 5:00
  Speaker 4: Three starters on USC's team were transfers from Stanford. Well,
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  Speaker 4: all their good players were leaving, and they weren't bringing
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  Speaker 4: anybody in. So they started out behind the eight ball.
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  Speaker 4: I'd probably say similar to Clemson, but they weren't at
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  Speaker 4: that level. Clemson had better players to start with. But
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  Speaker 4: I think that now that Luck's there, they have the resources.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I mean, obviously you've got Silicon Valley and
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  Speaker 4: a lot of very wealthy alumni, and it's just a
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  Speaker 4: matter of investing in the program. I mean, the recruiting
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  Speaker 4: pitches used to be, hey, come here and get a degree,
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  Speaker 4: wherever it was, and try to win a championship. The
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  Speaker 4: next line out of all these kids' mouths coming out
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  Speaker 4: of high school is, well, how much are you going
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  Speaker 4: to pay me?
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  Speaker 2: Right, exactly, yes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you have to pay them.
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  Speaker 5: Right. Gino, if a quarterback joins you guys in the
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  Speaker 5: Heisman house this year, C.J. Carr, Arch Manning, Dante Moore,
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  Speaker 5: which one do you think is most likely to win
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  Speaker 5: the Heisman?
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 4: I really like Carr last year when he played against Miami,
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  Speaker 4: even being a freshman. They have an easier schedule, and
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  Speaker 4: he has the Notre Dame machine behind him. I think
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  Speaker 4: if they can beat Miami at home, I think he
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  Speaker 4: will have the leg up only because the other schedules
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  Speaker 4: of the other guys are very much more difficult than
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  Speaker 4: Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: Mensah should be in that conversation, no?
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  Speaker 3: He will be. He will be.
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  Speaker 4: I would say the thing that maybe would hold Mensah
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  Speaker 4: back is Mario likes to pound the ball, and you've
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  Speaker 4: got Fletcher who's really kind of unstoppable. He won a
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  Speaker 4: couple games on his own last year. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that would limit his attempts. You know, he may share
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  Speaker 4: the spotlight with Malachi Toney a little bit. But, listen,
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  Speaker 4: that's the great thing about the Heisman is, listen, there's
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  Speaker 4: so many great players. The amount of quarterbacks that are
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  Speaker 4: very good, experienced this year in college football is tremendous.
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  Speaker 4: And I think if one of them gets hot, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they could run away with it.
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  Speaker 3: Or, you know, it's going to be a great playoff.
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  Speaker 4: Run like last year where nobody really knew who was
• 7:18
  Speaker 4: going to win until the end.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: Taylor feels like it's only a matter of time before
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: Deion Sanders is the head coach at Florida State.
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  Speaker 3: Do you agree?
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  Speaker 4: Well, they already have a coach there. He didn't play
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  Speaker 4: very well, I would say. Dead man walking.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Taylor said a win's a win, but Florida State's
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: win was not a win. That's what he said this week.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was a win. Listen, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I would say the jury's probably still out on Deion.
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  Speaker 3: Is it not? I think he was successful at a
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  Speaker 3: lower level.
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  Speaker 4: He was somewhat successful initially with Travis and his son
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  Speaker 4: playing quarterback. Okay, now can he build a team, and
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  Speaker 4: are there enough resources at Colorado to do that? So
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  Speaker 4: I would say something that the jury is still out.
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  Speaker 4: And sometimes Board of Trustee members are a little afraid of–
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  Speaker 4: everything that Deion would bring with him.
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  Speaker 3: Not that I would care.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if you can get him players, I think
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  Speaker 4: he can motivate them and win anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: How do you feel about what Lane Kiffin is doing
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  Speaker 1: at LSU, the SEC? We're playing sports in a courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: It's absolutely absurd. But how do you feel about the
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  Speaker 1: idea of guys who have declared for NFL teams leaving
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  Speaker 1: the NFL and going back to college to play football?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's right.
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  Speaker 4: I think when they signed their scholarship, the rules were
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  Speaker 4: you got five years to play four. They exhausted their
• 9:00
  Speaker 4: eligibility under the rules they went to college with. I
• 9:03
  Speaker 4: understand the NCAA, they changed the rules five to play
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  Speaker 4: five after these guys made, made a decision. But if,
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  Speaker 4: if they were going to make those teams they were
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  Speaker 4: on in training camps, do you really think they would
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  Speaker 4: have said, Hey, please cut me.
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  Speaker 3: I want to go back and play at LSU. Hell no,
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  Speaker 3: they wouldn't have done that.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So, so to me, The NCAA messed up by not
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  Speaker 4: providing some kind of sunset clause to let them, you know,
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  Speaker 4: stay in or go back, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't do that. The rules were the rules.
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  Speaker 4: They made the decisions. You can't, you know, you can't say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: the rules were changed. I want to go back. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you know, so I don't think it should be allowed.
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  Speaker 4: It's just another kind of black eye and then LSU
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  Speaker 4: kind of just pushing the envelope against their conference and
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  Speaker 4: against everybody else. I don't know. It's an unfortunate situation.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's just too much chaos for the kids
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  Speaker 4: around there, and we'll see how they.
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  Speaker 3: Deal with it.
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  Speaker 5: Gino, I'm looking at the Miami Hurricanes schedule this season.
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  Speaker 5: And one game that you probably had penciled as a win,
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  Speaker 5: you might be put on notice now. At North Carolina,
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  Speaker 5: that trip to Chapel Hill, Bill Belichick's waiting for you.
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  Speaker 2: He played ball at Carolina, Gino. You know that.
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  Speaker 3: I would say this, Taylor. You know what? It's not
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  Speaker 3: North Carolina the one that concerns me. It's Pitt. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if you're an ACC guy, Pitt's quarterback. is a stud.
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  Speaker 4: He's very talented. I don't know if Narduzzi's usually got
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: good defenses. I would be more concerned with that. North Carolina,
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: it was a good defensive performance against a team in
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  Speaker 4: TCU with a new quarterback transfer from Harvard, and they didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Get anything done.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, I My daughter goes to Wisconsin, and
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: I saw Billy Edwards a few games last year before
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: he got hurt, and I'm just going to say, no,
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  Speaker 4: that game is not circled that I'm concerned.
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: About it right now. I hate the Berkshire bubble.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: If there's a second team out of the ACC to
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: make it to the college football playoff, a second team
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: other than Miami, who do you think that second team
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  Speaker 1: is going to be?
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you the three I would be.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you have three?
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  Speaker 3: SMU, Louisville, and– And who are we just talking? And Clemson.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I think those are the three teams. SMU and Louisville
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: beat Miami last year. So can they win the games
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: that they're also supposed to instead of, you know, they
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: beat Miami and then lose to somebody lesser than. I
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  Speaker 4: think that those are the teams that are going to
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: vie for that spot.
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  Speaker 3: Clemson's got Miami at home in October.
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  Speaker 4: You know, so I think SMU's got Jennings, who's a
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  Speaker 4: dynamic quarterbacks who's a stud, you know, I think those
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: teams are the ones.
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  Speaker 3: And Braum is, you know, no matter what team.
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  Speaker 4: He puts out there, he puts together a great game
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  Speaker 4: plan and is successful. Those are the three that I
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  Speaker 4: think would vie for the next spot in the playoff.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: I texted you late last night saying Stanford was going
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: to win tonight's game by 10 points. And you, the
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: text you sent back was not very nice.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong there. I know I'm wrong.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: I did it just to get under your skin. But
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: you think Miami's going to blow them out tonight, don't you?
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: They came out here early on Tuesday. And, yes, I
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: think they want to set the tone in week one.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: They got a really kind of odd schedule. They play
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: three games in 13 days. I think you go Friday, Thursday, Friday,
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  Speaker 4: which is ridiculous. And so, yes, I think Miami is
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: going to make a statement here. And you got to realize, Sugat's,
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: I wanted to go to Stanford. I wanted their degree.
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: I wanted to play there. They said I wasn't good enough.
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  Speaker 4: I was an hour and a half up the road.
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: And you know what?
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: I'm still bitter.
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  Speaker 2: You should show up tonight with your Heisman trophy. How
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  Speaker 2: about that?
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  Speaker 3: I'll be down there on the field tonight.
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  Speaker 4: I'll rave to the partial sellout of the four people
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  Speaker 4: that they're going to have at the game.
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  Speaker 2: Please get the Heisman and wear it around your neck
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: and wear the two national championship rings. Just wear it all.
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  Speaker 2: And say I wasn't good enough to play at Stanford.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. Exactly. I like it. I like it.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Gino, I was talking to our buddy Hawk because he
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: is also in Northern California. And I'm looking at you
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: and you look happy and you talk about how great
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: it is there.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: And it is great. You got two, not one, but
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: two quarter zips on today because it's 67 degrees. And
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: so I ask you this question. Why do you come
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: back to Miami?
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  Speaker 4: Well, now that's– I don't know. That's where I went
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: to school. My wife and I went to school there.
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: My daughter went to high school. You know, when I
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: come out and it's clear– now, it was raining and
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: 55 and foggy last night, and I'm thinking– That's why I.
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  Speaker 3: Go back to Miami.
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  Speaker 4: When it's clear and you can see the Golden Gate
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  Speaker 4: from up here on the top of the hill at
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: Cal Stadium, there's not a better place when it's clear
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  Speaker 4: here to go watch a college football game, that's for sure.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: You're on the call for Cal USC, is that correct,
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: this weekend, Saturday?
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: UCLA. Oh, UCLA.
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: We got an old Pac-12 game after dark. 10-30 Eastern
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: kick on Touchdown Radio.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: Final question on the way out. We appreciate you doing this. Indiana,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: football school or a basketball school?
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: Basketball school.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: They're still pissed that they haven't won the basketball national
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: championship in a while.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Gino. Enjoy the weekend. Enjoy the nice weather.
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  Speaker 1: And please wear that Heisman Trophy around your neck to
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Stanford today.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be sipping on the red wine out there on
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Palo Alto on the sidelines.
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  Speaker 2: All right, buddy. We'll talk to you soon. See you, guys.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: See you, Gino.