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Profound Autism, The Telepathy Tapes, and The Power of Non Verbal Knowing with Demi Pietchell · Inchstones with Sarah | Autism Advocacy & Caregiver Stories

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Speaker A: Hi, everyone. Welcome back to a really, really, really exciting episode of the Inchtones podcast. Today I am here with Demi Pitchell of Starfire Codes. Demi actually came into my social media world years ago. I followed you on Instagram years ago. And when I joined the ranks of Substack recently, I found that Demi was sharing more an in depth look at the work that she does, which is really showing people the truth and the power behind who we are and our realities and what we feel and the metaphysics behind it all. And it was a joy to see her on substack because of the deeper dive in the more prolific form that we can all take on substack. So, Demet, thank you for being here and thank you for the work that you produce.
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Speaker B: Thank you so much for having me on. I'm honored. Thank you.
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Speaker A: Having two children with non speaking autism, as I say to others, is not what you signed up for or thought was on your bingo card when you think I want to become a mother. And at the same time, having two children with non speaking autism has profoundly changed the way I experience being a human being, particularly as my daughter Millie has grown and just gotten older being her. The telepathy tapes has taken this autism parenting world by storm. And the producer, Kai Dickens really has put the spotlight on this superpower, the truth behind telepathy, the exchange of energy. And it is something that I have felt with Millie since she was probably what the world would think was starting to regress. And I saw it as a way of shifting, how can I more deeply see her for what she is doing? And it's just, it's amazing what the telepathic tapes is showing and the connectivity specifically between a mother and a child.
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Speaker B: First of all, I think that that's wonderful and I'm so happy that people are exploring this and especially in terms of, you know, not just telepathy, but they also get into expanded consciousness. And the way that, that, that people are interacting in that way comes from linking up with that expanded consciousness and being able to pull from that. And they, they've shown that with not just the connection between the mothers and the children, but also the children's connections with one another, which I thought was perfect. I thought that that was amazing and such a great way to show that this is part of our human birthright. It's part of who we are as people. 80% of people get a hit on a remote view the first try. So just to know that, to know it's, it's baked into who we are, we just don't necessarily know how to do really shows that, you know, that they might be using a certain aspect of their consciousness to reach out where reaching out in other ways hasn't worked. So they may have developed some other way to do that, which, you know, was adaptive considering their situation. But it's also. It harkens back to what we are actually able to do. And this is what I tend to say to people when they ask me about Clarabilities or anything like that. Any sort of sighability that people have, it definitely is our human birthright. But it comes from a place of knowing that it is baked into us. It's part of who we are. So it's just like if someone, anyone, barring some kind of disability or some kind of injury, is able to run. But not everyone practices hard at running and becomes an Olympic runner or something like that. So when you focus your time and energy on actually developing those parts of your consciousness, you're able to tap into it more and more easily. That's where that comes from. So, you know, certain people, yes, they're naturally more inclined, just like running. But it's not something that you can't develop it. Absolutely. It's not something that you can't develop. And this shows that they were able to develop that out of, you know, whatever was happening with them. And a desire to communicate.
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Speaker A: The desire to communicate is something that I've witnessed in both of my children. And it's something so profoundly human. And both of my kids have been exposed to alternative communication devices. And what my daughter has enjoyed becoming educated on with a device versus my son, who has, quite literally, no, he's so annoyed by the. By the even presence of it. What reminds what. It reminds me that it. It's not that he doesn't want to communicate. It's that that is not how he feels. The growth in his communication is to happen. A lot of the children on the telepathy tapes use the spell to communicate spelling boards. And I believe that in offering up so many different forms to understand them is wonderful. And what I hear you saying, which I feel so, so, so deeply about, is that staying open to the way in which they have learned to communicate and putting aside every thought of no, it should be this way, or no, it can't be that. And Millie has taught me that, is that she knows that she is whole and present. And I haven't shared this yet with. On a substack or on any social media yet, because I'm still honestly processing it. But in the past two weeks Millie has been radically using numbers and numerology to share with me. She always has loved that. My best friend. And I say 11, 11. Like we've all. My best friend I always like for years. And so a few weeks ago she started saying it in the grocery store with me and, and, and then having joyful laughter. Like joyful, joyful laughter. And I'd say, oh my gosh, I love that you love a love. And I know Millie, doesn't it feel so good when you acknowledge that and the love. Something changed since she started doing that and then it rapidly accelerated the past two weeks. And what has, what she has shown, what I believe is that she knows that I'm a deep receiver of who she is. And what she's been saying to me every day, a few times a day is I am I. Wow. I am I. And she will say 1, 13, 8, 98. It has a lot of different numbers that I'm trying to let sit. And I say, I hear you sweetie, I understand. But she has gone back to a few phrases and one of them being I am I. And so when you say that, it's the whole being, it's the whole sense of our, it's, it's our right to feel our consciousness. This sweet little 10 year old with her Warby Parker glasses on is telling it to her mom. And I'm going, yes you are, you are sweetheart, you are. And it is profound to me that while she can't speak, she's communicating more from a holistic human, human sense than you and I probably could at 10 years old.
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Speaker B: That was one of the things that came up when my friends gave me the telepathy tape links to go it out knowing that I was going to be talking to you. One of the main things that came up is, you know, one, one of the kids had said they don't feel like they're separate from everything else. Like that they feel like they're part of the all. And how impactful that is like to, to have that as an experience, to not feel separate and, and that that's maybe part of it. You know, instead of looking at them as just unto themselves, to look at them as how they experience it, which is part of everything. Yeah, it changes the way we conceptualize of it, of their experience.
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Speaker A: Without a doubt. You said that they, they might present as being removed, right? They might present humanly as being removed because of their need for whatever sensory situation feels good for their bodies. And there's, there's a term, it's the I Think it's the Maori. I don't want to get that wrong, but I'll. I'll clarify. The trib language says autism means in their own space and time. That's what autism means. And I think that it is that they're in their own space and time with everything. Like, it's just. They are, they are of the space and time and the ability to sit with it and recognize it. I know that my daughter is feeling so understood in a way that she has hasn't before. Because the joy I'll send you. I'll have to send you this short video. We were on the screened in porch on Mother's Day and she was listening to a Sesame street song that was a famous, like, female singer. But the words were changed for Sesame street, right? They were. I don't know what song it is, but it, the sound, the lyric they change it to is counting to four. And she goes, whoa, we're counting to four. And she goes over and over again. And Millie just cycles it, like. I mean, she just goes back, whoa. And I looked at her, I go, oh, my gosh. Four, four, four, four, four. And she looks at me and she erupts to me in the most. I mean, it is, you know, you cannot laugh like that unless something has to within you to bring that up. Yeah, she is laughing with like. I mean, she's crying, her body is shaking and she's looking. I'm going counting to 4, 4, 4, 4 all day. 4, 4, 4, 4, 4. And if you can tell that the numbers and the numerology and the whatever she's receptive to that I acknowledge, she was like, this is joy. This is it for me. And I just, I can't. I can't not talk about it because it's. If I see joy in a child and you start to explain it, I don't know, I'm just explaining what my reality is. She feels joyful around sharing numbers. And there's something about that. Talk to me more about the work that you do in the body and the spirit. It's so powerful.
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Speaker B: And I actually started out, I was atheist. I did not. I did not feel connected to any of this. And my mother would buy these metaphysical books because she was interested in it, and she would keep them in the house, I would read them, and I was trying to debunk her. So I had all of the information in my head and eventually it crossed context for me. Flipped a 180 once. I delved into really quantum mechanics. And just like looking into Quantum theory. And I was like, oh, I have this wrong because of the way that consciousness operates within that.
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Speaker A: That's right.
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Speaker B: So when you look at it that way and you're seeing that they have so many different ways that they could be looking at communicating and, and the ways that they are taking in that sort of information and processing that if they feel like they are a part of, they don't have that, that barrier that we have, like you know, being within the meat suit and feeling things, senses in the specific way that we do when, you know, when we are normalized, basically. But if, if they're feeling it in a different way, we can look to them and, and understand something so much more profound about the way that it. We actually are.
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Speaker A: You have to suspend your judgment over what you believe is communication.
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Speaker B: Yes, absolutely. And to look at it in such a way where you're open to understanding that we are more than our physical bodies and that we are able to grasp onto that in different ways and you know, connect with others in that way.
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Speaker A: So, and this is where I think a lot of growth has happened into. I don't want to say allyship for parents of non speakers, but a growing curiosity around this is that you'd be hard pressed to not find a mother who birthed a child with non speaking autism to say, oh, I don't believe it. I don't, I don't think you would find a single mother that I know that is on a parallel journey as mine that would say, oh yeah, that's just all, it's just quack. It's just pseudoscience. You, you wouldn't. And so I think that the spotlight, the centering of that experience, telepathy tapes has, has given that a greater, you know, stage to, to, to talk about it on. But what it's doing is, it's the conversations. And I think staying curious is like the beginning of people's conscious awareness to it. And to know that communication is far beyond words and the spoken, spoken language for sure. I mean, if you're around Millie, I always, again, maybe this is crossing into like different scientific things. God, God love my son. I would, I would, I whisper to him, I'd leave everyone for you. Like, I love him that much. Like, he is like scrumptious and he just wants to kiss my face. And I, I'm obsessed. Like, I rock him. Like he's 7 years old. And my oldest, my typical developing oldest, is always like, you love Mac the most. I'm like, I sure do. Of course, look at him he just wants to love. He would crawl back in utero with without a doubt. Without a doubt. Okay. And. And this is my big end. So I say all that. And men are not as in tune at the beginning. I do believe in having a girl with non speaking autism and a boy with non speaking autism that I have noticed this younger in Millie than I have in my son. Typical developing boys and girls, generally speaking, girls are easier to educate, easier to teach, desire to learn. My son is like, give me a muddy puddle. And I am so damn happy. Give me something to roughhouse. Give me something to knock over. Give me something to jump on. Give me something to eat. He's so primal. He's so primal. It's so innate in women.
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Speaker B: He may learn it from Millie. Yeah, they might be trying to show you what they want or something that they deserve. But like also, if he's got, you know, and it's possible that kind of connection with Millie, he might be interested in it just because she's interested in it.
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Speaker A: Exactly. Like it's. They both are doing this spell to communicate therapy at school. And I went in to observe a session and the speech teacher spell to communicate. Instructor said, I'm going to read you a paragraph, Mac, and then we're going to spell and you're going to answer questions about. So it was about monarch butterflies. Now Millie is in the same room, in the same classroom. No other students, just her and her. Her teacher. Multiple desks away, working on something else, doing a puzzle. Mac gets read the whole paragraph on monarch butterflies, Mac, what do the butterflies do? They M I G R A T E. Right. I'm just going the whole time, baby, you're brilliant. You're so brilliant. I'm so proud of you. Millie comes over next. Now, she shouldn't have been able to hear what the teacher was reading. I mean, she was reading out loud, but it was not in any sort of projected way towards her. And her teacher said, I'm going to read this to you, Millie, but I think you probably already know exactly the answer to everything. And I said, well, let's try. And she said, millie, what kind of species is a monarch and you know, butterfly? What color are their spots? Black. Like, she answered all these detailed questions. She was in the space where teaching was happening. When you see it, you can't deny it.
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Speaker B: And that seemed to be the consensus, like as different people were being exposed to it and to watching these kids, you know, with their mothers and with each other. And as just as that unfolded, it opens your mind to the possibilities of what we even think communication is.
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Speaker A: Yes.
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Speaker B: So we're not looking at it fully. We're only seeing the part of it that we understand, that we utilize every day that we were told is the way that we can communicate with each other. And that tends to be a big part of this. Like, we know through. Through studies and things like this that there are other ways, and there. There are other findings, and people work so hard to debunk that.
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Speaker A: Yeah, they really do. How do I help guide people to seeing even glimpses of this?
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Speaker B: People have a hard time with that regardless, with anything that differs from their generalized experience because they haven't experienced it. So really the way to do that is to immerse them in an experience that's different from their own, so that they can take that information in on their own and not apply any force to it. Just allow them to make their own observations about what's going on there.
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Speaker A: That's so. And again, that's so interesting, because a lot of that comes down to what I've shared a lot recently. The support needed to raise and be the caregiver for children like Millie and Mac is systemically broken. Because, you know, as a mother, I'm not wired as a team. I. You know, it really does take more than one mother to. To keep them alive, afloat, fed all the things, and to invite someone into the intensity of it would require them to really immerse themselves in the front line of a lot of firing that they're not prepared for. So it. So then you're boiling down to assault of humanity. There's not that many people that say, we'll just come and stay and actually do it. Right? Because. Because that. And that's where they would be able to learn that communication is not always spoken.
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Speaker B: And I think if they were there with you present, they might feel more comfortable over time to be able to do that for you. But I think they're probably nervous that they will do something wrong.
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Speaker A: Right? Which the irony is that for Millie specifically and Mac, your presence is enough for them. The acceptance of presence for children with profound autism is the most beautiful thing in the world. You know, they will. They have their certain books that they love and certain songs. It could be. I mean, to use an extreme example, they could be walking through Penn Station, and if there is a man sitting there with a paper, Millie's gonna think, okay, he reads. I'm gonna jump on his lap. And here is my Pete the Cat book that I like. Cause she assumes, okay, if that person's reading. Well, certainly they'd like to read Pete the Cat. You know, there's no, there's not a single bit of conditioning as to who that man is.
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Speaker B: She has oneness.
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Speaker A: And if it's all oneness, then why wouldn't that guy, who knows how to read one on movie, keep the cat? I mean, it's so pure though, right? It's so pure and in some ways it's such a gift have children like I do. I, I know it so deeply and I wish I could just give this, the visibility of it to everyone that desires because I have so many people that are so supportive. But you can't teach it to someone unless you really step in and, and, and immerse yourself, as you said.
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Speaker B: Yeah. And, and I think that that's also, you know, I have a belief that you choose your parents too. Yes. Why they chose you because you get this and you, you see it and, and it lights you up to, to see them interact in that way and to see the way that they react to things. So when other people are seeing it through your eyes, it makes it more accessible to see it through their eyes. Absolutely.
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Speaker A: Yeah.
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Speaker B: It's a perfect immersion point. See it through your eyes.
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Speaker A: Talk to me about your, your one on one work and what you do. As you know, I'm sure a lot of listeners here would be very interested, not only in Florida following you and subscribing to Substack, but what is your personal work and how do you, how do you use your live readings and one on one sessions, daily readings that.
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Speaker B: I do that are published on Substack. Every morning a different reading will come out and they're, they're a tapestry of different divination tools. So I used shufflemancy, I use clairaudience, which means like, you know, I'll get snippets of songs and snippets of audio that come in for me that I will use to guide the, the rest of the information that I'm getting in. I use tarot cards, numerology, and, and at the end, like at the close of, of what I'm writing and what I'm seeing, as far as the message goes, I'll always provide a meditation for people to, to address whatever it is that I'm putting in there because just to tell you doesn't feel like it's enough. It feels like you should have some sort of anchoring point to be able to get in touch with yourself and do something about the information that's coming in. So that's How I solved that, because it felt like a problem to me to just, you know, put the information out there with no real way to latch on to. This is how I would solve this kind of a problem. I like to keep it solution focused and growth focused.
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Speaker A: Well, that's, you know, I. I know I sound like a broken record. On instance, the innate primal, divine feminine desire to tend and befriend and to solve a problem that breaks your heart right now. I don't think that you are. It doesn't. It doesn't break my heart that my children don't speak. The problem I believe I'm solving is that it is a beautiful way of having a life as a mother to a child. Right. So it breaks my heart that other mothers see this as becoming prisoners of their own life. Mothers and caregivers who feel like all they think about, all they worry about is what's going to happen to my children when I'm gone or what, you know, no one understands that breaks my heart.
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Speaker B: And for that I would say, you know, it takes a change of perspective in order to see that that entire situation is happening for you, not to you, totally. So that, you know, you're seeing that all of these events are occurring so that you can see the world in a different way. You. You can help them see the world in the different ways so that you can help them learn, that you can learn from them and you can bring that understanding to other people and expand the way that they look at the world in general.
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Speaker A: Your attunement to energy, I mean, I could be around you all day. It's so palpable. I think that's something that I acknowledge so much in Millie is. And you know, her language obviously is so limited. And she uses her device. She said it was so beautiful on Mother's Day that she kept saying, house blocks, house blocks. And I finally realized that she was talking about the white marble stones that were outside. She likes to line them all up, pull them from the side, little gravel thing. And when I finally got it, I go, mil, I'm so sorry. That's exactly what you mean. I go, got it. Let's go outside. You know, let's get your little fruit plate. And she sits there and look, I mean, I'm not kidding you. That girl sat for an hour in the sun just laughing, enjoying lining up the little marble chips. But it's the attunement. It's this like, really, really, really cool attunement to people. And I just love that how you are sharing this with the world is so different than how I'm experiencing it, and yet it has such a beautiful enmeshment of attunement, real attunement to that. I wish I could give this to everyone because it's so damn beautiful. It's so beautiful just seeing it through.
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Speaker B: Your eyes and having you express that to them and just like taking your experience of that and allowing them to see it through your eyes so that, that they're able to take a step toward it and dip a toe in before they like get immersed, then it would be maybe easier for them to make that jump.
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Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I think that in getting to let your children, any, any child, any, any, any young child in anyone's life, I think it is the greatest gift to allow that person to become exactly who they're meant to be. Whatever, whatever that looks like. And we are so conditioned as a society to have these expectations and both makes me sad that I did have those and at the same time how amazing it is to raise children who don't. I mean, you never choose it. And yet I think that you know what the telepathy tapes and Kai Dickens the producer and what you are doing is like showing the work of this through yourself and through what you're able to attune to. And I believe that in being Millie and Max mom, that's what I get to in some small way do too.
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Speaker B: If you, you know, if you choose to, you could end up exploring that with them and see if, if there are other ways for you to communicate with them that, that do involve that totally. The more, the more you immerse yourself in it, you're. And the more you're able to understand the possibilities for the waste. Because it's not especially what they were talking about in, in those recordings. It's not just telepathy.
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Speaker A: No.
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Speaker B: So I mean, that was just like the door opening was, you know, wondering why and you know, can you explain this to me? Why is this happening? You know?
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Speaker A: Yes, yes. What other things has Millie said recently? So she's always been very hyperlexic, you know, drawn to letters. Like, I mean, everything when it comes to letters, you know, in the bathtub, the foam letters, piling them, color coding, but. But naming every one of the letters. And one of the things that she said recently on her device was, you know, I am I. Be with the letters. Be with the letters K A C is for this. But it always goes back to with the letters B. Be with the letters. Like it's this looping And I think that it's her way of saying, this is, this is how my language is evolving. And I keep saying, oh my gosh, of course you're always with your letters. Then she just, you know, be with the letters, be with the letters again. It holds such beautiful weight to it because I think in any capacity we're all just looking to try to be understood for who we really are. And there's a real little girl in there, right? There's a real little girl, you know.
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Speaker B: And the more you're able to see things through her eyes and pick up on that and pick up on, you know, like the different clues that she's given you.
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Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, she's. Yes. I mean the. From as simple as an eye blink, you know, for her or if she holds her hand a different way. I'm so the exhaustive fact factor of parenting children with non speaking autism is that you're so hyper on hyper alert because of any sort of motion of darting away or, you know, just the instability of, you know, they're being unable to keep themselves safe. And yet because of the muscle being flexed for being so hyper vigilant to their safety, it actually allows you to be hyper vigilant to things that you normally wouldn't be hypervigilant to. So Millie quickly batting her eyelashes after I say something. Oh, that means something. I know it does. Right. You know, like when she's really happy, she pounds. She does that and it's a snap. And you know, when you, when you start to see that, you realize that that aligns with joy, that aligns with happiness, that aligns with the energy of her spirit being released through some channel of to be received. And yeah, it's just, it's really beautiful and it's hard and it's not easy and I love it.
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Speaker B: Sure that when you pick up, you know, the clues that she's giving you. Just, just like with the house blocks.
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Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker B: Pick up on the clues and. And then you get it. She's probably so thrilled.
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Speaker A: Oh my gosh. Yeah. And she probably and I think feels so proud of herself. I. Another thing happened around the holidays. We were, I was decorating Christmas cookies with my oldest and her at the counter and she had her device and she was kept saying, I need the rice, I need the rice, I need the white rice or I need the clear rice. And I'm like, I don't have any rice over here, Mel. She does like chicken fried rice. And my 12 year old was the one. She goes, mom, she wants the Clear sprinkles.
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Speaker B: Sprinkles.
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Speaker A: Yeah, the clear iridescent ones. And I was like, you want those like diamondy looking sprinkles like Millie. That was actually really small.
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Speaker B: Smart. That's, that's a great way to describe it. Clear rice. Yeah.
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Speaker A: I don't have iridescent sprinkles on my talker. Like, I'm like, you're so, so smart. Well, anyways, I just, I really appreciate your work. I think that it spans beyond, as you say, it goes into the expansion of our perceptions and how we orient ourselves to the lives that we do. Our reality, My reality is this. And so I get, I get to stay oriented to that and get really quiet about what I see and take in. Every one of us, I believe, has that in us. I'm so thankful for the work that you do because you. I hope that you know that your work does change this world.
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Speaker B: Thank you so much.
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Speaker A: It really does. It really does.
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Speaker B: I appreciate it. And, and I love that there's this nexus point where, where so much communication is happening. Like it, it lit me up to, to even listen to those recordings. I think it's wonderful.
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Speaker A: Well, I'll have to send you offline some of these videos of the joy, the numbers, because I think that you can't help but be like, what does the number four stand for? What is the symbolism in four? It's telling us something.
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Speaker B: Four is stability. Four is like groundedness and stability.
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Speaker A: So it's again, it was Mother's Day. It was a beautiful day. I've been in my home now for about a year and a half. I think that who was with us and how we were literally just sitting. I think she feels really safe. I think she felt a really beautiful day. We had gone out for a nice long walk and everything about the day, I would say lined up on top of the overarching stability of the settling nature of life for her.
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Speaker B: Yeah. And the repetition of four, like four, four, four.
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Speaker A: It was always three fours.
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Speaker B: Like even developing some sort of like self sufficiency, like based in that stability. So where she's able to communicate with you how flocks and things like that. Yes.
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Speaker A: Yeah. I mean it's just feeling that totally. It's. It feels like it's such a gift. I kept saying that to her. Sweetie. I just keep saying stuff. I'm like, I want to absorb everything. And you know, at some point she's like, 0, 101-01. And it's done. All done. All done. And wants to go back to her songs and stuff, but, yeah, you know, as a tip, typical child would. Right. Typical child, that's like, mom, okay, I'm done.
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Speaker B: I'm done. Yeah, this is over.
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Speaker A: Exactly. Exactly. Totally. Well, anyways, I will be sure to put all of your information on the episode and how people can reach you. Subscribe to your substack and really be open to the effect of your work because it is so powerful, and the more eyes I can get on it, the better.
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Speaker B: Well, thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me on. I'm honored. Thank you.
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Speaker A: You're so welcome. And until next time on the Inchtones podcast.