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Speaker 1: When we last we left these teams, when last we
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Speaker 1: saw them on the same field together, it was Game
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Speaker 1: five of the World Series, and we know it did
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Speaker 1: not end well for the Yankees. It ended much better
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Speaker 1: for the Dodgers. Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of
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Speaker 1: Fair Territory, the live edition. I'm Ken Rosenthal here with
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Speaker 1: Alana Rizzo and Alana. We have the usual potpourri to
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Speaker 1: get to.
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Speaker 2: We do agree to be with you as always.
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Speaker 3: Can I tell you what the Houston Astros? Ken, this
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Speaker 3: is a team decimated by starting pitching injury, but they
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Speaker 3: are lurking.
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Speaker 2: What more can you tell us? As we get going
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Speaker 2: in the lead?
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Speaker 1: It's rather amazing, Elana. We say this every year with
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Speaker 1: the Astros are seemingly the last few years. Ah, this
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Speaker 1: is gonna be the year They're not that good. Well,
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Speaker 1: here we go again. They have lost three starting pitchers
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Speaker 1: since the season started. I'm talking about Blanco, was Nesky
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Speaker 1: and Arasgetti. They've have a number of other starting pitchers
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Speaker 1: down and yet even without Jurdan Alvarez, who has been
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Speaker 1: out since May Tewo their best hitter arguably here, they
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Speaker 1: are a half game out of first place in the
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Speaker 1: American League West, and it's amazing to me they've had
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Speaker 1: a better record without Alvarez than they had with him.
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Speaker 1: They're fourteen and ten without them, they were sixteen and
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Speaker 1: fifteen with them. They have all these pitching injuries, real
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Speaker 1: questions there and probably a deadline need for them. But
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Speaker 1: at the same time they are doing their Astros thing.
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Speaker 1: And let's look at their pitching Alana, just to show
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Speaker 1: you how dire this circumstance is for them, and yet
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Speaker 1: they keep going. Anyway, here are the current starters for
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Speaker 1: the Astros. It's Hunter Brown fromer Valdez and Lance McCullers
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Speaker 1: Junior who has been resurgent. Good for him, Colton Gordon
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Speaker 1: and Ryan Gusto. That's dipping into their depth a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Because of the list on the right, Spencer Araghetty, Blanco
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Speaker 1: and Wesnsky we mentioned JP Franz, Luis Garcia, Christian Javier
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Speaker 1: all possibly will return along with Araghetty at some point,
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Speaker 1: but I don't know how you can count on those guys.
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Speaker 1: A lot of them have been out for quite some time,
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Speaker 1: so the Astros likely will need a starter. We've seen
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Speaker 1: Dana Brown their GM be aggressive in the past It's
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Speaker 1: just impressive to me that they do this year after year.
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Speaker 1: They've got a lineup now without Alvarez that is essentially
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Speaker 1: all right handed. It is not what you want. And
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Speaker 1: again here they are. Let's look at the AL West
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Speaker 1: standings and I'll show you exactly what I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: with regard to their position in the division. Seattle Mariner
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Speaker 1: is still leading the division, but lost three or four
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Speaker 1: to the Astros this week. That's why the Astros are
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Speaker 1: now a half game back. The Rangers have been awful.
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Speaker 1: Actually I shouldn't say that their pitching has been great,
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Speaker 1: their offense has been brutal. They're four and a half out,
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Speaker 1: the Angels playing better twenty five and thirty five and
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Speaker 1: a half out, and then the A's have just collapsed.
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Speaker 1: So the Astros in a division that we expect it
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Speaker 1: to be rather strong, maybe it isn't as strong as
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Speaker 1: we thought, Alana, and maybe that will bode well for
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Speaker 1: Houston going down the stretch.
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Speaker 3: This is amazing to think that the Astros, this is
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Speaker 3: always a team like, well, maybe we should bury them
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Speaker 3: maybe next year. Maybe this is a rebuilding season. It
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Speaker 3: never seems to be that way. I mean, again, Ken,
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Speaker 3: this is without Alvarez in their lineup. This was the
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Speaker 3: departure of Alex Bregman. This is also with the departure
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Speaker 3: of Kyle Tucker. It is unfortunate though that their arms
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Speaker 3: are so hurt. Chandler Rome, your colleague and co host
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Speaker 3: of Krush City Territory on the Foul Territory platform, brought
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Speaker 3: out in his article about this that if you pair
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Speaker 3: Blanco's workout can with one hundred and forty five innings
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Speaker 3: and Spencer Aragedy's. If you compare Blanco's workload in two
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Speaker 3: thousand and four rather and then Spencer Ragedy's innings last year,
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Speaker 3: this is a Houston Astros rotation can now that is
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Speaker 3: without three hundred and twelve and the third innings from
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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four rotation. So their depth certainly, and
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Speaker 3: Blanco is one of the most recent no hitter pitchers
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Speaker 3: that has done that recently. So they have to go
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Speaker 3: after a starter, as you mentioned, do they go for
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Speaker 3: more than one?
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Speaker 1: I don't know that they'll need to do that, but
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Speaker 1: one for sure, and there will be some starters available.
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Speaker 1: As we're starting to see a lot of this race
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Speaker 1: sort out. In each division, you see teams that are
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Speaker 1: just pointing teams that might make pitchers available that otherwise
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have thought available. I'm actually going to have
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Speaker 1: more on this in my Notes Calm tomorrow because things
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Speaker 1: are starting to get interesting on the trade front.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, things are starting to spread themselves out. One guy
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Speaker 3: we know that is not available for a pickup is
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Speaker 3: Paul Skins Ken. We've talked about it so many times
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Speaker 3: how special Paul Skins is. But there's another reason why
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Speaker 3: we should think that he's special.
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Speaker 2: What is it?
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Speaker 1: Just the way he is performing through a lot of
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Speaker 1: recent trade talk, and how he shuts out the noise
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Speaker 1: and just is going forward all the time. This guy,
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Speaker 1: in his first full season now leads the majors in
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Speaker 1: innings pitched seventy five and a third. That's really impressive,
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Speaker 1: and it speaks to his work ethic, his approach, everything
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Speaker 1: about him. I walked into the ballpark in Arizona a
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Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and there he was working out
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Speaker 1: by himself. He was doing his thing, and he's just
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Speaker 1: a really impressive person. And I want to show you
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Speaker 1: something that Tory Lavello, said, the Arizona Diamondbacks manager, to
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Speaker 1: reporters this week about Skiens and about the trade talk,
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Speaker 1: and it says from Bob Nightingale Diamondbacks manager Tory Levello
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Speaker 1: raved about the way Pirates ace Paul Skins has deflected
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Speaker 1: all trade talk speculation, and Skins did the same again
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Speaker 1: today after the game when asked about a future contract extension,
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Speaker 1: he said, I'm not in a rush, and I don't
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Speaker 1: think they are either. Now you might say, well, what
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Speaker 1: else is he gonna say? And you might ask, well,
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Speaker 1: what else is he gonna say with regard to trade speculation.
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Speaker 1: He can't get involved in that. That's all true. But
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Speaker 1: there have been people within the game asking is there
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Speaker 1: going to come a point with Paul Skins where he's
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Speaker 1: frustrated enough to say, you know what, I'd like to
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Speaker 1: pitch for a better team if you're not gonna surround
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Speaker 1: me with talent. And we've seen no signs of that.
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Speaker 1: All we see from this guy is every fifth day
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Speaker 1: or sixth day, whatever the case might be, him going
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Speaker 1: out there and doing what he does best, which is
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Speaker 1: just pitching and pitching at an extremely high level. One
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Speaker 1: point nine to one ERA in May two point one
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Speaker 1: point five for the season, again leads the majors in
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Speaker 1: innings pitched. He is everything you would want out of
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Speaker 1: an ace. In fact, his manager Don Kelly said this
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Speaker 1: week he reminds Kelly, who used to play for the
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Speaker 1: Detroit Tigers, of two guys that he used to play with,
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Speaker 1: Justin Verlander and Max.
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Speaker 3: Scherzer, and that is high praise, a good company to
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Speaker 3: be and both of those guys likely headed to cooper'stown.
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Speaker 2: Paul Skeen's a.
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Speaker 3: Two oh three er and thirty five starts. You mentioned
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Speaker 3: two one five ERA this season, Ken, He's a tremendous player.
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Speaker 3: One guy that we don't talk enough about and maybe
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Speaker 3: we should be is Noah Cameron. Is he good enough
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Speaker 3: in your opinion to enter that al Rookie of the
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Speaker 3: Year conversation.
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Speaker 1: I think we need to know more and see more
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Speaker 1: from him and Alana. Actually, I think we need to
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Speaker 1: introduce him. Noah Cameron is a rookie pitcher for the
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Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals. Grew up about an hour outside of
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Speaker 1: Kansas City, and the Royals they're pitching starting pitching in
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Speaker 1: particular is a strength. But right now they've got Lugo
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Speaker 1: Ands on the injured list and Noah Cameron has come
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Speaker 1: up and made four starts for them, and he has
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Speaker 1: been absolutely brilliant. Six and the third innings each time
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Speaker 1: you see the note there second pitcher since in eighteen
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Speaker 1: ninety three. With six and the third innings and one
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Speaker 1: run or less in his first four major league starts.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. And the Royals have had some good
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Speaker 1: things happening with the rotation, Chris brubric most of all.
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Speaker 1: But Noah Cameron is a guy that is going to
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Speaker 1: be really intriguing for them because you don't expect to
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Speaker 1: go through a season with five starters, and we've seen
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Speaker 1: that with the Royals. They're not going through the season
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Speaker 1: with five starters. They've needed help from Cameron, and here's
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Speaker 1: a guy that only reinforces their greatest strength. They need
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Speaker 1: to find offense, whether it's Jack Caglianon who is tearing
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Speaker 1: it up in the miners or someone else in a trade.
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Speaker 1: They're twenty seventh in the majors and runs per game.
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Speaker 1: So while it's great to see Cameron and what he's
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Speaker 1: doing and great to see him enter the Rookie of
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Speaker 1: the Year picture, perhaps they need to score more runs
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Speaker 1: to be competitive in what has been a pretty good
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Speaker 1: division so far.
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Speaker 3: Kenned got to wonder when when you and I were
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Speaker 3: having this conversation with Jeremy, our producer, about the six
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Speaker 3: and the third innings, it's like, how many other pitchers
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Speaker 3: are even in the conversation for six and the third innings,
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Speaker 3: I realize it's only been four starts, But there's interesting.
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Speaker 3: It's interesting to note that Paul Skeens is the only
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Speaker 3: guy close to having that many innings thrown. He's averaging
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Speaker 3: six and the third. Now that's over twelve starts, so
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Speaker 3: that's a lot better. But again, it's nice to have
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Speaker 3: Noah Cameron in this conversation that when given the opportunity,
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Speaker 3: he's getting the job done.
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Speaker 1: He certainly is, and that comparison is actually pretty good
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Speaker 1: in my estimation, Alana, because yes, it's only four starts,
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Speaker 1: but it's his first four starts. Nobody goes deep in
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Speaker 1: games anymore, and this guy's going into the seventh inning,
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Speaker 1: and that's what Skeens is doing on a regular basis.
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Speaker 1: But to see a young pitcher come up and do that,
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Speaker 1: to see him trained to do that by his organization,
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Speaker 1: which is a rarity in itself, it's impressed overall.
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Speaker 3: Is it too soon to stack him against Jacob Wilson
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Speaker 3: or Jason Domingez.
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Speaker 2: Are we being too premature here?
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Speaker 1: Probably you need to see more than fourth darts. And
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Speaker 1: I don't know how long he'll be in the majors
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Speaker 1: out they're going to use him, whether he'll be up
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Speaker 1: and down. But right now, Jacob Wilson of the A's
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Speaker 1: would be the front runner for Rookie of the Year.
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Speaker 1: He's had a tremendous start to his season. Jason Dominguez
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Speaker 1: has been very good himself, especially in May. But Cameron
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Speaker 1: could come on. You never know, And certainly the Rookie
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Speaker 1: of the Year races are often not decided until later
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Speaker 1: because guys don't come up until this time of year.
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Speaker 1: In many cases, Paul Skens was a good example, So
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Speaker 1: let's not rule out Noah Cameron. He is certainly entering
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Speaker 1: the picture.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always the question too, Can a pitcher be
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Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year over a position player? Obviously Paul
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Speaker 3: Skeens did it most recently. Much more to come here
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Speaker 3: on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. Get those questions in,
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Speaker 3: All right, now, welcome to Grill and Ken. Don't forget
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Speaker 3: So we start with this. The Angels and the Yankees
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Speaker 3: just completed a series ken and there was a lot
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Speaker 3: of intentionally walking going on of Aaron Judge, which kind
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Speaker 3: of makes sense.
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Speaker 2: He's a pretty good hitter. I don't know if you've
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Speaker 2: heard of him, but in the.
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Speaker 3: First and the third inning, they're already intentionally walking number nine.
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Speaker 2: What's your take?
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Speaker 1: I actually liked it, and I also liked what resulted
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Speaker 1: from it, which was that cool exchange between Judge and
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Speaker 1: Angels manager Ron Washington in which Judge kind of looked
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Speaker 1: over and Washington stuck out as tog laughing. Basically, right now,
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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge is at a nearly five hundred clip on
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Speaker 1: base percentage, nearly four hundred batting average, and of course
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Speaker 1: he slugs like crazy. You don't want to deal with
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Speaker 1: him if you don't have to, And people might say
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Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, you're taking the back out of his hands,
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Speaker 1: but Washington is reacting to game situations as well, and
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Speaker 1: would you rather have that or would you rather have
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Speaker 1: the Orioles new manager Tony Mansollino pitching to Ralphie Old
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Speaker 1: Devers with a base open, and we saw how that
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Speaker 1: ended for him. Last weekend. Not to pick on Mansollino,
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Speaker 1: but sometimes it's best to avoid a guy like Judge.
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Speaker 1: And I have no problem with the strategy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, first and second inning rather not first and third
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Speaker 3: in terms of the intentional walks, but I love it
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Speaker 3: there and I do love the exchange between Wash a
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Speaker 3: veteran in this game obviously, and Aaron Judge. Okay, another
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Speaker 3: question staying in the Al East, this is about the
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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay race. This is from Luke. Thanks for participating, Luke.
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Speaker 3: Are the Rays the only team in the American League
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Speaker 3: that can stop the Yankees from going back to the
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Speaker 3: World Series? They are only the AL team since twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty in the top six and winning percentage versus New York,
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Speaker 3: so they play them well.
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Speaker 1: Lucy makes some good points, and the Rays have come
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Speaker 1: on of late. They've played much better. They have excellent
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Speaker 1: starting pitching, an excellent bullpen with them. And it seems
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Speaker 1: like we say this about so many teams. We were
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Speaker 1: just talking about the Royals in this regard. Are they
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Speaker 1: going to hit enough? And they've got arounda having an
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Speaker 1: all Star type season, Cam and Ero of course worlds
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Speaker 1: of potential. They need more out of Brandon Lao and
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Speaker 1: Josh Lowe, and they got some things that have to
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Speaker 1: be addressed, okay, but I do like them to compete,
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Speaker 1: at least for a wild card. I don't know that
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Speaker 1: they can catch the Yankees in the division, and I
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Speaker 1: don't know that they're better than the Yankees. But are
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Speaker 1: they a potential playoff team? With the Orioles collapsing and
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Speaker 1: the Red Sox seemingly unable to get out of their
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Speaker 1: own way and the Blue Jays kind of having a
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Speaker 1: lot of potential but not really firing just yet. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the Rays are going to be right there. And they've
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Speaker 1: got Hashan Kim coming back from his injury. He's not
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Speaker 1: played for them just yet. So I like where they
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Speaker 1: are and I kind of always like them. I just
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Speaker 1: wonder if they're going to hit enough to be as
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Speaker 1: much of a force as they could be to support
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Speaker 1: that pitching.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're always in the conversation, certainly in the Aliast.
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Speaker 3: Another team that is the talk of the town, at
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Speaker 3: least around here ken is the Boston Red Sox. I mean,
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Speaker 3: they are on a big time struggle bus right now.
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Speaker 3: Can they turn it around?
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Speaker 1: Good question, and the answer is yes, they have the
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Speaker 1: talent to turn it around and we'll talk more about
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Speaker 1: them later in the show as well. Listen, they've had
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Speaker 1: tough injuries Bregman and Cassis, the two corner infielders. That's
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Speaker 1: a big deal. That's a lot to lose, but all
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Speaker 1: teams have injuries, and they're trying to figure out who
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Speaker 1: to play where and all of that. They just haven't
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Speaker 1: played particularly well and they're in the middle of a
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Speaker 1: five game losing streak right now against the Orioles and
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Speaker 1: the Brewers, two teams that are not exactly powerhouses. There
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Speaker 1: seems to be kind of a bad vibe about them now.
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Speaker 1: If they bring up Roman Anthony, if Meyer keeps doing
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Speaker 1: what he has been doing early on, if Campbell regains
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Speaker 1: what he has seemingly lost after that great first month,
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Speaker 1: they could be a fun, exciting team. Need better starting pitching,
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Speaker 1: need more consistent play overall. But right now, it's hard
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Speaker 1: to like the Red Sox.
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Speaker 3: I had a conversation the other day ken with Pedro Martinez,
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Speaker 3: obviously Red Sox lore, and he said that Christian Campbell
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Speaker 3: is so good, they're trying to make him bad. What
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Speaker 3: is your perspective of them having so many different players
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Speaker 3: out of position? I mean, They obviously like him, they
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Speaker 3: gave him a big deal, but they're taking having him
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Speaker 3: take ground balls at first base. He may play there
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Speaker 3: this weekend. You also have him in the outfield. What's
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Speaker 3: your take on that situation.
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Speaker 1: I like that comment from Pedro, And generally when you
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Speaker 1: talk about prospects, what do you hear from teams about positions. Well,
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Speaker 1: we want to let him settle in. We want to
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Speaker 1: get him settled at that position and then you know
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Speaker 1: he can make some versatile moves later. Red Sox aren't
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Speaker 1: doing that. Marcelo Meyer comes up. He was playing shortstop
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Speaker 1: in the miners, then he played a little bit second base,
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Speaker 1: and he's a third Campbell as you mentioned Alta, it's
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Speaker 1: going to play first this weekend. They seem to have
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Speaker 1: all of these pieces in the jig jigsaw puzzle in
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Speaker 1: the spots and Trevor Story one of their big contracts,
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Speaker 1: eighth lowest ops in the majors. So there are all
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Speaker 1: these things going on with them, and none of them
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Speaker 1: really are good. Christian Campbell is a player who, yes,
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Speaker 1: has struggled at second base, so they're thinking, why not
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Speaker 1: playing it first? We don't want Devers in the field.
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Speaker 1: That seems to be the message here. We don't rock
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Speaker 1: Raphael Devers. We're in a glove. So, okay, that's fine,
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Speaker 1: but you're compromising perhaps some of your young players by
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Speaker 1: putting them in uncomfortable spots or at least unfamiliar spots.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he made it pretty clear he's not going
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Speaker 3: to put on a glove. Also, by the way, let
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Speaker 3: me ask you this though. I mean, there's been three
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Speaker 3: managers that have been fired so far already this season.
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Speaker 3: A lot of fans are you know, shouting off the
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Speaker 3: rooftops there and get Alex Corre fired. I don't think
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Speaker 3: this is Alex Core's fault.
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Speaker 1: It's the first year of a three year extension for Cora.
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Speaker 1: He's not getting fired two months into a three year extension.
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Speaker 1: That's first of all, Is it Cora's fault? I can't
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Speaker 1: say it's Cora's fault. The injuries certainly aren't his fault.
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Speaker 1: The dever situation. Could this have been finessed better? Could
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Speaker 1: somehow the organization have talked him into I don't know,
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Speaker 1: playing third, playing first, whatever the case might be. I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure I'll put that on Alex Cora either, simply
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Speaker 1: because differs is not a good defender. So for all
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Speaker 1: this talk about how selfish he is, Yeah, okay, I
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Speaker 1: get it, fair point, but do you really want him
17:26
Speaker 1: in the field. So when a team plays poorly, as
17:30
Speaker 1: the Red Sox have played, as the Rangers are playing
17:33
Speaker 1: right now, as the Diamondbacks are playing, there's always going
17:35
Speaker 1: to be questions, and sometimes those questions go back to
17:38
Speaker 1: the manager, and they're fair. But I don't know that
17:41
Speaker 1: you can put this on Cora, and I do know
17:43
Speaker 1: he's not getting fired when he's got three years left
17:46
Speaker 1: or the bulk of three years.
17:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot going on at Fenway Park this season.
17:51
Speaker 3: One more question for you. I'm Grill and Ken. This
17:53
Speaker 3: one comes from Wrestl Comics trade deadline approaching. Ken, do
17:56
Speaker 3: you expect the market to be more active than years
18:00
Speaker 3: past based on how close these teams are out of
18:03
Speaker 3: the wild card and division races.
18:06
Speaker 1: I don't know that I will say more active than
18:08
Speaker 1: in years past, but I certainly expect it to be active.
18:12
Speaker 1: And it almost doesn't matter how close the races are.
18:15
Speaker 1: The general managers in general cannot sit still. They're going
18:20
Speaker 1: to do things to try to improve their teams. They
18:22
Speaker 1: shouldn't sit still. They should be trying to do everything
18:25
Speaker 1: possible to enhance their rosters. Now, what makes it interesting
18:29
Speaker 1: when you have so many close races, and granted in
18:32
Speaker 1: two months they might not be as close. But what
18:34
Speaker 1: makes it interesting is in those kinds of circumstances you
18:38
Speaker 1: will sometimes see major league from major league trades instead
18:41
Speaker 1: of just major leaguers for prospects, because teams will look
18:45
Speaker 1: to fill each other's needs. They might not want to
18:47
Speaker 1: give up prospects. They might have a surplus in one
18:49
Speaker 1: area a weakness in another. These are the kinds of
18:52
Speaker 1: things that get especially lively. There's nothing like to me
18:56
Speaker 1: a good major leaguer for major leaguer trade as opposed
18:59
Speaker 1: to a major leaguer for three guys that you really,
19:02
Speaker 1: for the most part as an average fan might not
19:04
Speaker 1: have heard of. So yes, I expect it to be active,
19:07
Speaker 1: more active than the year's past. I'm not sure i'd say.
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Speaker 3: That, Ken, As you know, prospect means unproven. You never
19:14
Speaker 3: know what you're going to get. All right, Thanks so
19:16
Speaker 3: much you guys for getting those questions in here on
19:19
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Speaker 1: Dude, dude, dude.
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Speaker 3: All right, everybody, time for Ken and I to give
20:35
Speaker 3: you guys our shout outs over the last week. Ken
20:39
Speaker 3: and the honors are yours.
20:40
Speaker 2: Who is your Dude of the week?
20:42
Speaker 1: Miami Marlin's second baseman, Ronnie Simon and all of the
20:45
Speaker 1: players who rose to his defense and support after that
20:49
Speaker 1: three error situation that he had when he left the
20:51
Speaker 1: field in tears. First of all, what is most important
20:55
Speaker 1: to understand always And Tim Kirkton taught me this when
20:58
Speaker 1: I first started covering baseball way back in the late eighties.
21:01
Speaker 1: The game is really hard to play. And Ronnie Simon
21:05
Speaker 1: obviously had a bad night. And what was so cool
21:07
Speaker 1: about this? You see his teammates supporting him there, you
21:10
Speaker 1: see too afterward, Fernando Tatis, Manny Machado, a number of
21:14
Speaker 1: the padres. Luisa Rise was another one reaching out to
21:17
Speaker 1: him and saying, hey, you're gonna be okay. Here's Tatisa's quote.
21:21
Speaker 1: It's baseball. It happens. Everyone who's won a Gold Glove
21:24
Speaker 1: or Platinum Glove has had one of those nights. I
21:27
Speaker 1: definitely know he's a great player. Simon was back out
21:30
Speaker 1: there the next day working his tail off again, he's
21:33
Speaker 1: the dude of the week, as well as all the
21:35
Speaker 1: players from the Padres and Marlins who supported him.
21:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll absolutely love that.
21:39
Speaker 3: It's one thing for your coach to say something, your
21:41
Speaker 3: manager to say something.
21:42
Speaker 2: Your mom, your dad, your neighbor.
21:44
Speaker 3: But when your counterparts, your colleagues that are playing the
21:47
Speaker 3: same game that you are, reach out and say, you
21:49
Speaker 3: know what, we've all been there, I think that has
21:51
Speaker 3: a little bit more weight. I never thought in a
21:53
Speaker 3: million years Ken Rosenthal that I would say this, but
21:56
Speaker 3: I don't think we're talking about the New York Yankees enough,
21:58
Speaker 3: and the New York Yankees are dudes of the week,
22:01
Speaker 3: specifically Brian Cashman. I mean, he takes a lot of
22:04
Speaker 3: grief all of the time, as he should, being the
22:06
Speaker 3: general manager for a lengthy amount of time over one
22:09
Speaker 3: of the most historic franchises in all of sport. But
22:12
Speaker 3: he is put together a very nice team and Aaron
22:14
Speaker 3: Boone has managed a very good season so far. The
22:17
Speaker 3: Yankees are seizing the Al East while the rest of
22:20
Speaker 3: the teams not Tampa Bay. But while the rest of
22:23
Speaker 3: the teams in the division seem to be sinking a
22:25
Speaker 3: little bit, this is a team that has the largest
22:28
Speaker 3: division lead, and they're doing it without some key pieces.
22:31
Speaker 3: They're doing it without Garrett Cole, They're doing it without
22:33
Speaker 3: Louis Heel, They're doing it without Jean Carlo Stanton. They're
22:36
Speaker 3: doing it without some of the key pieces of that roster,
22:40
Speaker 3: and they're doing a really good job. So you are
22:41
Speaker 3: my dudes of the week, The New York Yankees. Okay,
22:45
Speaker 3: time now for the John Fisher dork of the Week.
22:57
Speaker 2: Okay, Ken, I.
22:59
Speaker 1: Could choose any number of teams here. I mentioned in
23:01
Speaker 1: the previous segment, the Diamondbacks, the Rangers. I could go
23:04
Speaker 1: on and on and on. But the Red Sox this
23:07
Speaker 1: week take the cake. I mentioned their five game losing streak.
23:10
Speaker 1: I mentioned their players at a position. I mentioned their
23:12
Speaker 1: big money players like Story not producing. Red Sox always drama,
23:18
Speaker 1: always too much drama. Dorks of the week, Yeah in.
23:21
Speaker 2: A bad way. Drama, drama, drama.
23:22
Speaker 3: Trevor Story, by the way, owed fifty million over the
23:25
Speaker 3: course of the next two seasons. The Red Sox have
23:27
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty eight opt out for Trevor Story. He's
23:30
Speaker 3: got to get it going. My dork of the week
23:32
Speaker 3: is the grounds crew member that got hurt, not because
23:34
Speaker 3: he got hurt, Ken, but because he showed us the bird. Obviously,
23:38
Speaker 3: Zuri upset. Looks like he dislocated his knee or something
23:41
Speaker 3: there at Comerica Park. Didn't like what was happening, that
23:44
Speaker 3: he was being filmed. And then one of the guys
23:46
Speaker 3: that was helping him said, hey, bro, I know you're
23:48
Speaker 3: in pain, but you got to put that middle finger
23:51
Speaker 3: down because now not only are you hurt, you might
23:53
Speaker 3: get fired. So that gentleman, his fifteen minutes of fame
23:56
Speaker 3: is not a good one. He is my dork of
23:59
Speaker 3: the that's a bummer.
24:01
Speaker 2: Ken. You don't want to see a guy get hurt,
24:03
Speaker 2: but you gotta kind of control. You gotta control yourself.
24:08
Speaker 1: I understand his frustration. Obviously he's in pain, he's not
24:11
Speaker 1: feeling great, but the cameras are what the cameras are,
24:15
Speaker 1: and the recording the plays that are going on on
24:17
Speaker 1: the field. And I was actually shocked to see this,
24:20
Speaker 1: and it just kind of struck me as a reaction
24:25
Speaker 1: that was not proper. Let's put it that way. I
24:27
Speaker 1: won't go any further. It just wasn't a proper reaction.
24:30
Speaker 3: No, it's funny too, because it's like not only was
24:32
Speaker 3: it not proper, but to me, that kind of came
24:34
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, like that's the last thing I was
24:36
Speaker 3: expecting for that guy to do. It's like, Oh, I'm
24:39
Speaker 3: really hurt, and I love the guy that was surrounding
24:42
Speaker 3: him like trying to help.
24:42
Speaker 2: He's like, Bro, you gotta like simmer down here. I understand.
24:46
Speaker 3: But again, now we have like a you know, maybe
24:48
Speaker 3: there's a work comp claim, but you also might go
24:51
Speaker 3: from the work comp line to the unemployment line.
24:55
Speaker 2: Because perhaps you're about to get fired. In this whole situation, Kenny,
24:58
Speaker 2: did you ever think that the we wouldn't be talking
25:01
Speaker 2: about the New York Yankees enough and my dude of
25:03
Speaker 2: the week.
25:05
Speaker 1: No, And you're right, they've won sixteen of twenty. They
25:08
Speaker 1: deserve all the props that you gave them. And it's
25:11
Speaker 1: interesting with the Yankees how they've pivoted so well from
25:15
Speaker 1: losing Soto from the coal injury, all the things that
25:18
Speaker 1: have happened with them. And you're right, Cashman has done
25:21
Speaker 1: a great job. Their organization as a whole has done
25:23
Speaker 1: a great job. I wrote earlier and took a lot
25:25
Speaker 1: of grief for it about how they've done with homegrown talent.
25:29
Speaker 1: It's gone pretty well for them.
25:31
Speaker 2: No doubt.
25:31
Speaker 3: All Right, much more to come for some of us
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Speaker 2: It very much.
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Speaker 3: Ken Rosenthal. All right, where are you this weekend? What
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Speaker 3: game do you have?
26:21
Speaker 1: I am in Lovely Los Angeles for a rematch of
26:25
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four World Series between the Los Angeles
26:29
Speaker 1: Dodgers and the New York Yankees. And obviously this is
26:32
Speaker 1: going to get a lot of attention, this series, as
26:34
Speaker 1: it should, because when last we left these teams. When
26:38
Speaker 1: last we saw them on the same field together, it
26:40
Speaker 1: was Game five of the World Series, and we know
26:43
Speaker 1: it did not end well for the Yankees. It ended
26:45
Speaker 1: much better for the Dodgers. I believe in the athletic
26:48
Speaker 1: either today or tomorrow, we're going to have an oral
26:50
Speaker 1: history of Game five. I know it might trigger Yankee fans.
26:54
Speaker 1: I advise them perhaps not to read it, but everyone
26:56
Speaker 1: else can read it, and actually Yankee fans might want
26:58
Speaker 1: to read it too, just to flick the pain one
27:01
Speaker 1: more time, and then it enhances the enjoyment of the
27:04
Speaker 1: current season when so many good things are happening with
27:07
Speaker 1: the Yankees, and they're pitching in particular without Cole has
27:11
Speaker 1: been stunning.
27:13
Speaker 2: It really has.
27:13
Speaker 3: And honestly, right now, if you take the microcosm of
27:16
Speaker 3: what happened the season so far, the Yankees are playing
27:19
Speaker 3: much better than the Los Angeles Dodgers are. Again, we
27:22
Speaker 3: talked about that division lead in the Al East, not
27:24
Speaker 3: that the Dodgers aren't in first place, but they're certainly
27:26
Speaker 3: not running away with the division as the Yankees seem
27:29
Speaker 3: to be doing right now. We had a conversation Ken
27:31
Speaker 3: Clint to Cis and myself during spring training with Dave Roberts.
27:35
Speaker 3: He was kind enough to say, hey, I will walk
27:37
Speaker 3: you through the decisions I was making in the postseason,
27:39
Speaker 3: particularly the NLDS of course with the Padres, and then
27:43
Speaker 3: we kind of skipped over the CS to get to
27:45
Speaker 3: the World Series, and it was interesting to kind of
27:47
Speaker 3: take us through the manager's mind. Do you ever have
27:50
Speaker 3: you ever in your life wanted to kind of manage
27:53
Speaker 3: a game and see how it would go for you.
27:56
Speaker 1: No, my job is enough, and I would not pretend
28:00
Speaker 1: that I could do that job or general manager's job,
28:03
Speaker 1: a scouts job. I do my job. Now that said,
28:07
Speaker 1: it is always really insightful to hear a manager do
28:10
Speaker 1: what he did for you in Clint and go through
28:13
Speaker 1: moves because a lot of times when we're watching from
28:16
Speaker 1: the press box, or we're sitting in the stands, or
28:18
Speaker 1: I'm in the camera well doing a game on TV,
28:20
Speaker 1: there are things going on in decision making factors that
28:24
Speaker 1: go into certain moves that we don't know, we don't understand,
28:28
Speaker 1: and then afterward we'll ask the manager and perhaps he'll explain,
28:32
Speaker 1: perhaps he'll hide the reason. But there's a lot that
28:35
Speaker 1: goes into each of these decisions. I'm not trying to
28:37
Speaker 1: excuse any manager from making a bad move, but they
28:40
Speaker 1: always almost at least almost always have an explanation. And
28:44
Speaker 1: for Roberts to take you through that in what might
28:47
Speaker 1: have been his finest hour, honestly, that was cool.
28:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, I certainly think that it was his finest hour
28:53
Speaker 3: over the course of his tenure. Ken Rosenthal, we look
28:55
Speaker 3: forward to watching you and the Fox crew with Yankees
28:58
Speaker 3: and Dodgers this weekend at and AJ Przinski, Eric Kratz
29:03
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Speaker 3: for Scott brons so Ken. We'll have a brand new
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