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EDP11: Miami GST / ASICS Tokyo / China DL's / London Marathon · Easy Double podcast

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  Music. Hello and welcome back to Easy
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  Double Podcast. We are on episode 11 and I'm
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  glad to say that I'm joined by both Owen and Dean this week.
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  We've got some strong Internet connection connecting us all the
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  way over to near Dublin, Ireland.
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  Owen, welcome back, son. Thank you very much.
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  It's good to be back. Sorry about last week.
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  It's just I was on a plane for a couple of hours.
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  So yeah, no, it's good to be home.
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  Looks look nice and bright there.
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  Sunshine in three window. Nice spring day in Ireland.
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  Yeah, highs of 13°, but lows of three.
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  So it's just peak over summer, really.
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  I've got the sun cream on. Yeah.
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  No, that's good. I miss you guys though.
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  I'm. Glad that I'm glad that you're
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  back with us. Have you had any comments on on
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  your time? To be honest, I haven't been
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  able show it because it's actually been so cold.
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  Like I'm here wearing a big jacket but everywhere I'm
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  outside so I haven't been able to show it to anyone.
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  By the time it gets warm enough to wear a T-shirt, my time will
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  be gone, so I'll be just a pasty pale white person again.
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  Does it feel a bit, Does it feel a bit strange, like it wasn't
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  that long ago we were talking about you racing in the heat and
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  just how like gross that was? Does it feel a bit funny to
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  think about running in that sort of weather now?
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  You miss it. I actually took it all back.
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  Like I used to say, oh, I hate to run with the heat.
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  I'm not a good person to run in the heat, but Oh my God.
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  Like you miss it when you're not like, fair enough.
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  This is probably better like running conditions, but you have
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  to rug up, like have to dust off the hat, the type like the full
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  length tights and me jackets and big hoodies.
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  And yeah, so it's way more fun to run along the beach in your
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  shorts and T-shirts. That's cool, I guess.
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  Not as easy to roll out of bed and just slip into a shorts and
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  T-shirt as it is to get layered up, no?
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  It's not a swamp. Did see a photo of you there?
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  Were you at like the Gaelic footy or something?
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  Your sisters in the in the big puffer jacket and the O'Neill's
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  badge plastered everywhere for? Yeah, he's definitely back.
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  Yeah, so my sister's plays with like Mead, which is like the
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  county basically I'm from, and they had a Leinster semi final.
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  So Leinster is sort of like WA, it's like the province or like
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  that sort of stuff. And then so now they play in
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  Crow Park, which is like a third biggest stadium in Europe.
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  It holds like 80,000 people and that's like the the main Gaelic
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  stadium in Ireland. They're playing that next week,
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  the lengths of final and the lads team is actually playing in
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  the Lancer final as well. So it's worked like, so that is
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  the first time the lads are in a final in ages.
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  So Dublin have won the competition for the last like 15
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  years in a row. So Mead and this other actually
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  15 years ago meet and loud. So there's two county teams
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  played and meet one and they probably shouldn't know one.
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  It was like someone threw the ball in the net and there was
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  like totally, it was an outrage. So now they're actually in the
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  final next Sunday. So it's going to be it's going
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  to be really, really good. It just works out so well that.
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  Who did? Who did you play for?
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  Did you play for me or did you play for?
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  So I would have played like under it, like wasn't back.
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  I wasn't good enough to play with me.
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  I played under 20. Yeah.
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  I played under 20 but I've never made like senior.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that feeds into the same
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  province. I would have played club for,
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  let's say, Scream, so I'd be like Scarborough and then they
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  try and play for whatever the biggest thing.
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  Yeah, yeah. This, this could be good thing
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  mean you're going to get educated on Irish culture and
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  sport here now that he's back in his home roots.
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  That's it. There's more champions and just
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  heart rate and splits. We'll turn into a Gaelic
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  podcast. And also not to forget Dean.
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  Welcome back to the pub. How we feeling when we come from
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  the marathon. A bit less recovered than what I
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  hoped I would be, but no pretty good otherwise.
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  As so, you enjoyed a mental and a physical reset last week then?
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  Yeah, we, we had a bit of illness in the house, but so I
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  had to deal with that for, for a few of the days, which meant,
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  and I wasn't immune from that. So had a few light days, but
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  yeah, sort of back jogging now. Legs still feeling pretty
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  cooked. My nothing bad.
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  My quads just feel dead. They feel pretty lifeless.
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  It was probably what, 2 year? What's it been a year since?
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  A bit over a year since I've done a marathon.
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  So I feel like maybe I've forgotten just what the that
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  week after the marathon maybe feels like.
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  But yeah, looking forward to sort of getting back into some
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  training soon when the legs feel like they're up to it.
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  No good stuff. Well, this, this what the pods
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  for, isn't it? Keeps us accountable, keeps us
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  turning up and switching on to running.
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  I guess Evan's been battling with that for like the past
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  month or so. But yeah, now Owen did have a
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  question for you. I feel like I know the answer,
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  but I'm going to ask you anyway. Have you?
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  Did you listen to last week's? I was on the bike for 45 minutes
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  this morning and for the last like 15 minutes I turned it on.
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  Other than that, I haven't gotten to the race refabs yet so
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  I'm totally oblivious. That's so good.
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  That was the answer I was was expecting to be fair.
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  Yeah, I'm sorry. You both run very well.
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  Yeah, it's, it's been tough like in where people saying like, oh,
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  how'd you get on? And that and natural reaction,
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  being a little bit disappointed, but obviously trying to mask
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  that for people who don't really understand why I might be
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  disappointed, but they can clearly see that I am.
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  And then they're very confused that why running a 227 equals
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  disappointment. So I just and skip over it
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  really and be like, Oh no, I'll I'll be fine.
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  Like there's the next one and stuff.
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  Yeah, it's hard for people like to comprehend, like for you that
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  you put so much work in, you're hoping for a little bit more.
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  But when other people see like a 227, they're like, Oh my God,
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  like must be so happy tired. Yeah, it's nice that people are
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  interested. They're like going back into the
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  office this week and everyone wants to speak about it, which
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  could be great. And, well, it would have been
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  great if I maybe was a bit more upbeat about it.
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  I'd like to play to America Instagram.
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  That's it. Speaking of which, we let's get
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  into what this episode looks like then.
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  So we're back into a bit more of our usual format this week.
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  We've got don't know if we're going to call it the travel
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  week, the post marathon Blues week, but we're going to recap
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  something. I just, I feel like it might not
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  be a lot between the three of us.
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  I'm going to say if we if we reach a combined total mileage
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  of less than what we do this week, the three of us at any
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  point during the history of easy double, we have to just call it
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  a day and pack it in much mileage here.
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  Well, I'm not at all so we're. Not I guess I'm intrigued to see
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  who's who's the least contributor and we've got a lot
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  of running news results and talking points to keep us going
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  though we've got London from last Week, 2 rounds of the
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  Diamond League and the this Road to records.
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  And then from this week we've got the ASIC special event in
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  Tokyo where there was a few records went down there to
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  coincide with the launch of their new super shoe.
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  There was the Shanghai Diamond League and the second round of
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  Grand Slam track in Miami, which I don't know if they either got
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  lucky or deliberately planned it or what, but it coincided with
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  the Miami F1. So don't know if that would have
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  helped them in terms of publicity or what.
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  But yeah, we've got YouTube Diaries back.
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  Dean is going to educate us there.
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  So we look forward to that one and hopefully we'll have a
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  little double trouble pop up towards the end.
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  So guys, I'm going to flick through the results from last
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  week because Dean and I just didn't.
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  We didn't cover any of them because we literally spoke for
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  like 2 hours about the race. And it was a bit of a pain in
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  the bum to get the episode out because the thing that we use to
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  kind of manage the audio only allows up to two hours of
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  recordings. And the thing was like 2 hours
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  and 10 minutes maybe. So I had to like, snip it into
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  two clips and then put it back together and upload it.
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  So yeah, we'll keep it to less than two hours.
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  You're like, keep us accountable on that.
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  So London, this was going on. Talking when you're not here,
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  Brad. Owen, did you manage to see any
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  of London or were you what? Were you 2?
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  I saw it on. I saw it on Yeah.
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  I thought it was really good and I won the better, so I backed
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  that way. So yeah.
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  You didn't? Yeah.
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  I don't know how you are going to send me that coffee and
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  croissant over here and now, so very awkward for you, but umm,
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  no, that kid is good. You know he's not really.
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  He's 30, isn't he? He's pretty old.
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  Or not. Old much about and besides that
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  was his. He debuted Valencia last year,
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  the name which you said and won. Yeah, and now he's around 2:02
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  here in London. 202 yeah. 2/02/27 Then second was the
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  controversial Kapliemo. Kind of done himself a bit of
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  justice there really I guess, didn't he?
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  Because there's plenty of eyes on him to see what would happen.
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  And he ran really strong for a two O 337 in second.
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  And then Alexandra Moctisau or Munyao, the reigning champ from
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  last year was third in a 2O22O420 rather.
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  And then if we just go down a little bit further, we have
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  Abdeen the Gay was fourth, I think he was silver in Tokyo,
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  silver medal. Tamrat Tall of 5th and the great
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  man himself also had the good run, Kipjogi and sick.
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  So that was encouraging to see that Kipjogi is kind of informed
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  and running well again. Be keen to see what he does in
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  Sydney on the back of that. And then with the Brits, the
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  first Brit was Mohammed Mohammed in a 2/08/52 I think, which I
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  noted was slower than last year. So he finished ninth.
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  And then there was another Brit had a bit of a tough day.
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  So Phil Sessman, he was thinking 208 last year maybe, and he
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  found it tough. He was in that group with Andy
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  for a while that was being paced by Brett, and he ended up
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  running a 214. And then ahead of him was Alex
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  Yi, who we touched on was the triathlon man making his debut.
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  And he ran a 211, which I think he's trying to break 210.
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  But obviously once he has like kind of all the context and does
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  reflections, I think he's going to be pretty happy with that 211
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  debut. I don't know if you've seen on
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  YouTube that Alex G had to sit down with Kipchogi.
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  It was like a Morton thing. They must both be Morton
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  athletes. Did you see that at all?
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  I've seen it but I didn't actually like watch the whole
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  thing already seen. I thought it was really weird.
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  It was like pretty random. Yeah, the setup of it was weird.
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  It was, it was filmed as though it was like a CCTV recording
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  from the from a hotel room, but it was like entirely raw because
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  of that. It wasn't edited or anything.
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  They literally just filmed them both go and sit down and have a
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  chat and and it's probably like the most I've seen Kipchofi
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  speak and like got an actual feel for like who he is and how
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  he kind of holds himself, I guess.
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  And he was whether he was, it was probably a little bit
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  scripted, but he was coming across like genuinely very
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  intrigued into he's training as a triathlete.
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  Like he kept saying, like, how was your week?
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  Like bike, run, swim, like he was just genuinely so intrigued
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  as to how he's how he balances it all.
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  So it's pretty cool. You could tell he was a bit
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  nervous and stuff and he's probably like thinking jeez, why
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  is why is Kipchoge like so asked about me and my trainer?
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  That was such a good interpretation.
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  Please put the title as we have Kipchoge on.
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  Now we probably delete it for copyright instantly.
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  And no, that's cool, yeah, because like ye like at the end
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  of the day, he's Olympic champion.
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  Like he's the best tratley out there so I can see how Kipchogi
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  would show a little bit of interest in it, but I can't see
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  Kipchogi like picking up a bike and admin cross training into
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  his week anytime soon are. You sure you haven't watched it?
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  Because Kipchogi actually says he cycles one day a week and
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  does like 2 hours. Really.
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  And he was like, what? Yeah.
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  And he he talks about is not in depth, but Kipchogi said how is
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  Monday to Sunday looks in terms of like long run session on this
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  day, double on that day. And I've never like kind of had
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  any sort of insight into his training like a structured week
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  like that. And he just kind of said it how
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  it was. Wow.
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  Is that on YouTube? Yeah, I mean cutting the chase a
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  little bit with YouTube Diaries, but we'll we'll have most
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  common. But yeah, it is it's like 15
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  minutes. So yeah.
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  Any of the comments on those London results?
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  Golf I. Think it was hot, wasn't it?
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  Like it wasn't ideal. Yeah, yeah, her.
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  It was a bit warm. Dean, do you reckon you would?
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  Is London kind of on on your bucket list before you hang up
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  the shoes or not much interest in going over?
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  There I think getting to Europe's like a big feat, like
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  to get fit for a marathon and then to choose to race in Europe
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  is like a big commitment. Like in terms of it's a number
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  of days to travel and you needed time, how many hours for the
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  time zone. So it's like not the easiest
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  thing to it's like a big commitment.
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  And so and then so if you if you know that you can't pick races
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  like that all the time, then you're looking London.
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  You sit London alongside the likes of Valencia or say Seville
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  or Berlin. And some of those races might
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  present better opportunities to run a time rather than say
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  experience London. So I feel like the chance of me
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  running faster might be in some of those other European races.
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  So that's where, as much as I'd love to do run London, you can't
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  do the ball and sat alongside some of those other European
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  races, maybe it means it doesn't sit as high, to be honest, yeah.
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  I'll tell you first hand. Your thoughts on that that?
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  Flight. That flight is not fun.
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  Like the adrenaline. I arrived home on the Wednesday
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  afternoon and like I think adrenaline, I'm meeting my
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  family like for the first time in two years sort of got me
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  through the Wednesday and the Thursday or Friday, Saturday,
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  Sunday, and even today. Like I'm just shattered.
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  Like my body clock is totally off.
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  But never mind training through this and like actually picking
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  it up for a race, like you'd want to come over here 3 or 4
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  weeks to actually I fully recover from the flight.
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  Exactly. Yeah, yeah, because it's not.
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  Even. And that's where it's like, it's
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  like, yeah, both. And I just think like you, you
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  compare that with somewhere like Japan that's on the same time
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  zone as you and you can get a direct flight in eight hours.
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  It's just a much easier proposition, I think.
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  Yeah, fair answer. I'm probably in my head London's
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  a bit more accessible because I'm still thinking that, well,
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  obviously I'm British, but I'm forgetting that maybe I'm
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  permanently based or semi permanently based in in Perth
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  right now. But I guess that at some point
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  I'll probably have a good opportunity to do London from
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  being in the UK, whether that's like from being over there a
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  while beforehand visiting friends and family or if I end
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  up being back there to live or whatever.
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  And anyway, on to the women. So we had Tiggs de Seffa, the
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  winner in two 1550, Jocelyn Jepkovsky second in a 21844 and
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  Stefan Hassan third in 219 flat. First Brit there was Alish
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  Mccolgan, the debutant in a 2/24/25.
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  And then she finished 8th with that.
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  Then we had Rose Harvey 2/25/01 in 9th and other notable British
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  athlete Philly Bowden in 11th and a two 3028.
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  So I was a little bit surprised that Sufan Hassan was, so I'm
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  going to say non competitive because I think they were, they
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  ran together for a while, didn't they?
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  But she ends up finishing, as you can see, over 3 minutes off
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  the win. Is that how it played out, Owen?
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  Yeah, so every time, I don't know whether she's told to do
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  this or not, but every time they get a drink, she just takes her
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  time and slows right down to sip her drink and then she's like 20
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  meters off the back and then just she runs to catch up and
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  then another 4 timers goes by, no drink station, she drops back
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  again. So I don't know if that's what
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  she's meant to do if she has to do that to like digest the
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  fluids or totally get all on board.
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  I don't really know. But she's constantly off the
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  back and you could see that you want a SEFA like every time,
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  like she'd know if she's off the back, she'd try and kick it on
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  another bit to like get rid of her.
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  And and yeah, eventually, like I think Stefan Justice Stan just
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  like couldn't keep up the surges.
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  But I think she did take like four months off at the Olympics.
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  So like, she is relatively unfair regarding how fit she can
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  be I'd say. So I'd say she's going to have
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  another big one later on in the year.
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  A nice one. Yeah, I did.
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  I didn't realise she'd had all that time off.
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  I think if I'd knew that, maybe I wouldn't have picked her.
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  The missile. So then we had the Xiamen
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  Diamond League in China and there's a there's a few random
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  distances in this. So there was a one KA women's,
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  one Ki don't think there was a men's we.
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  The winner was Faith Kippie Aegon, who's also been in the
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  news for something else recently.
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  She won in a 2/29/21, which is just six hundredths of a second
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  behind her own, second fastest ever.
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  So it was announced last week, I assume yous would have seen
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  this, that Nike are going to set up a race if an inverted commas
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  race. I don't know if it'll be
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  official, similar to the break in 2 project that Kip Jogi done
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  where Kip Yagon is going to try and break the four minute mile
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  barrier for women, which is going to require her to take I
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  think between 6:00 and 7:00 seconds off the fastest ever
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  time as it is right now. Which sounds absolutely
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  ludicrous as a prospect, but I'm sure they'll be able to engineer
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  get somewhat close at least. Any thoughts on that?
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  I mean, it just seems not that feasible in my mind.
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  Like I think you need to run like 343 maybe for 1500.
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  And I think her PB might be like barely under 350, isn't it?
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  So like, I don't know, that's just like such a that's just so
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  far. And like a lot of those like
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  Monaco 1500 meter races are like so well paced.
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  So I sort of would have thought her PB would be pretty mature.
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  And she's been racing at the top of her game for a long time.
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  So I would think it's pretty. Yeah.
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  I can't, I can't get my head around it.
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  So yeah, I would think it pretty unlikely.
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  But yeah. What do you guys think?
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  I don't think she's a like it is such a big thing to break 4
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  minutes for the for the mile. So like she is unbelievable.
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  So in a way, you can't really write her off and everyone is
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  getting so much faster. But I think it's just to like,
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  maybe fate keep Jacob on do it, but someone will eventually do
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  it. But I just don't think we'll be
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  heard this time around. Yeah, surely like 7 seconds is
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  you'd think at least another decade the way really wouldn't
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  you? Because if you percentage wise
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  that well, it's going to be like AI don't know 8% improvement or
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  something like ridiculous like just doesn't really happen, does
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  it in one go. Then again, you see the half
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  marathon time go down, so who's to say she's won't just
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  absolutely smash it? Maybe you never know.
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  So think that that 229 what she's run for AK there, that is
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  pretty much the exact pace that she'd need to run for another
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  610 meters to break 4 minutes. Yeah, but almost double the
• 20:15
  distance and like, you know, the lactate you feel in an 800 meter
• 20:19
  Rep versus a 1600 meter Rep, like I feel like the K is closer
• 20:23
  to an 800. And so I would imagine if you're
• 20:27
  all out running that pace for AK to do that for another 600
• 20:31
  meters, like I don't know, a lot would need to change.
• 20:34
  But yeah, I mean, a cool concept, but yeah, I feel like
• 20:37
  if it was like 40 or under 404, you could probably maybe get
• 20:42
  there if you tried to control every variable as best you
• 20:45
  could. But 4 minutes too fast.
• 20:47
  So then in that race as well, we had Abby Caldwell in second
• 20:51
  breaking the national record. Now, not to discredit this, but
• 20:54
  I'm not sure how strong that national record was previous to
• 20:58
  that, but she has beaten Sarah Billings, who we'll hear about
• 21:02
  later is in very good form. So Abby's time is clearly very
• 21:06
  fast based off that in a 232.9. So new national records are
• 21:11
  buildings there in a 23345 and also we had.
• 21:16
  For for context, your 1K around the track at the VO2 Tuesday was
• 21:22
  about 10 seconds off that. So they're they're burning us by
• 21:26
  about 100 meters in that. So not too bad, is it?
• 21:29
  Yeah, 15 seconds actually. Yeah, thanks for that context.
• 21:34
  I haven't looked at it for some reason.
• 21:38
  I'll be pulled well with the best 1K I've ever seen in my
• 21:40
  life. Congrats on your national
• 21:42
  record. Absolutely unbelievable stuff.
• 21:49
  And then we had the women's 5000 meters, which was taken out by
• 21:53
  Beatrice Chibet in the 1427. And also in that race was Rose
• 21:59
  Davis. So she finished 9th in between
• 22:02
  Beatrice Chibet, who was first and Rose Davis in 9th.
• 22:05
  Everyone was Kenyan or Ethiopian and then beyond Rose Davis as
• 22:10
  well. So I mean, it's probably
• 22:12
  something we'll never be exposed to.
• 22:14
  But how they put these fields together is mad, isn't it?
• 22:17
  Because you look at Grand Slam track and there's not that many
• 22:21
  Kenyans and Ethiopians getting a shout there.
• 22:23
  It's, it's like lots of the US based in the European guys who
• 22:27
  like have big profiles and then loads of these Kenyan, Ethiopian
• 22:31
  athletes are not these Diamond League races, but lots of the
• 22:35
  names. I don't know if I'm just not a
• 22:38
  big enough nerd. Lots of the names don't mean too
• 22:41
  much to me. The depth in Kenya and Ethiopia
• 22:44
  is just, is that the that I just can't keep up with all the
• 22:47
  people that are running fast essentially.
• 22:49
  Yeah, and presumably someone is, or someone's a manager to them
• 22:53
  that knows that they're fit enough to be in these races.
• 22:55
  But yeah, where Australia might have three or four and similar,
• 22:59
  in the UK there's what feels like 30 plus, doesn't it?
• 23:04
  So Rose actually broke her own national record in that run to
• 23:08
  run a 1440.83, which is, again, if I draw a comparison to myself
• 23:14
  struggling to break 15 minutes, she's absolutely shifting.
• 23:18
  So that's an incredible, incredible run there.
• 23:21
  I can't remember what our previous, what the previous
• 23:23
  national record was. Was she broken it by more?
• 23:26
  I didn't think, I thought maybe like 1444, maybe something
• 23:29
  around that low 1440s. I thought it was.
• 23:31
  It was 14. It was 1441 I think.
• 23:34
  Yeah, it was June trying to qualify for the Olympics, wasn't
• 23:37
  it? There was more the Sky ring in
• 23:39
  the race to breaking 15 minutes for the first time in the 1455
• 23:44
  and Georgia Griffiths a bit Georgia Griffith a bit further
• 23:46
  back in 1517. I'm going to skip the this at
• 23:50
  the 01 because. Wait, actually actually
• 23:53
  interesting. When Yanni, is he like a
• 23:56
  challenger or is he actually in the grand soundtrack?
• 24:00
  I think maybe he was a challenger, wasn't he?
• 24:02
  OK, so he's not tied he. Must have been because he
• 24:04
  wasn't. Crazy doing like that road
• 24:08
  record thing in Germany even though he's tied to I guess
• 24:10
  instead of the Miami thing. Yeah, I think he was a
• 24:13
  challenger, but he didn't he win it.
• 24:15
  Did he win that first one? Yeah, the handy 100 grand.
• 24:19
  Fair play to stay in peak shape. So then go and back it up having
• 24:24
  100 grand in your pocket and not just enjoy yourself for a week
• 24:27
  or so. But it's a long season, isn't
• 24:28
  it? And he's probably thinking about
• 24:30
  how much more money he can make if he stays at the top of his
• 24:32
  game. So then on to this week's
• 24:34
  results. We had another Diamond League in
• 24:37
  China, in Shanghai. But it was actually, I was, I
• 24:40
  watched this on the live stream. It was called Shanghai Diamond
• 24:43
  League, but it was 220 KS of Shanghai in a place called Kyao
• 24:51
  and it also clashed with the Grand Slam track for the first
• 24:55
  time. So I mean, I'm not that bothered
• 24:57
  to start digging out viewing numbers, but I will be
• 25:00
  interested to see kind of how they matched up and the first
• 25:03
  weekend there. And I don't know if you guys
• 25:06
  have an opinion like kind of which drew your attention or
• 25:10
  your interest more from a results perspective or what you
• 25:13
  would have been bothered to follow in there between the two
• 25:15
  of them? Personally for me, because there
• 25:18
  was an Irish guy in grandson track I would have been more
• 25:20
  interested in. Yeah, I don't think the the
• 25:24
  field that the Diamond League was amazing and obviously Grand
• 25:28
  Slam just have that those signed athletes year round, don't they?
• 25:31
  So you know that like Josh Kerr, Cole Hacker, Nagus, Graham
• 25:37
  Fisher, Jess Hall, you just know that those people are going to
• 25:40
  be there every single time along with I know our review of it
• 25:44
  last time was kind of like a little bit negative, but then
• 25:47
  they're going to have challenges each time who's basically like
• 25:50
  the most informed people at that moment and bring them into race
• 25:53
  kind of like the world's best. And then when you compare it to
• 25:57
  there's a lot of diamond leagues what go on on this.
• 25:59
  So they can't pull the big fields every single time and
• 26:03
  especially when they're but in the morning like China, when
• 26:06
  there's a lot of ones in Europe, the athletes will be waiting for
• 26:08
  those to come around later in the season.
• 26:10
  So I think Grand Slam won this one for me.
• 26:13
  I think that's the main reason why none of the big people go to
• 26:16
  China, because you're coming from Europe or America.
• 26:18
  It's the travel. Like it's crazy.
• 26:20
  The only people that can go is Australians really.
• 26:23
  Speaking of which, you've just led me into in the women's 800
• 26:26
  meters there, Sarah Billings ran a second fastest all time in a
• 26:30
  157.83. So I was watching this at the
• 26:35
  time and she, she just ran a really smart race.
• 26:38
  Like she stayed onto the pack for a while.
• 26:40
  And then in the last 200 there's those who'd kind of pushed the
• 26:44
  pace towards the front started to fade.
• 26:46
  Sarah just stuck on the on the rail and kind of drove home and
• 26:51
  like ran all the way through most of the packs she ran
• 26:54
  through for 2nd. So I think previous to that 157,
• 26:58
  her PB was 159 something, which in in the 800 world that's like
• 27:03
  a massive jump to take over a second off your PB, isn't it?
• 27:06
  Yeah, it's crazy. Her finishing.
• 27:08
  She's gotten so strong. You can see like the fine like
• 27:12
  100 meters when her head starts rocking, she just like I know
• 27:15
  she just pushes through and yeah, creditor like 57 is
• 27:19
  getting up there with the best. Who has the Aussie?
• 27:21
  Yeah, they said it was an older name.
• 27:25
  Was it? Is it someone Bisset?
• 27:27
  No. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:28
  Katrina Bisset. Yeah.
• 27:30
  So it was maybe like 2020, maybe 2021.
• 27:33
  Which in today's terms, that's a long standing record really,
• 27:36
  isn't it? Well prior to that it stood for
• 27:39
  like decades. I think the Aussie 800. 157.8.
• 27:44
  Also the the Aussie record is 157.78.
• 27:49
  Yeah. She's just Arthur.
• 27:52
  I know it's a change of it. So it was funny because you
• 27:55
  know, when you see the athletes come through the line a lot of
• 27:57
  times, like not that long ago, a lot of the time there's not that
• 28:02
  that much reaction like in terms of being overjoyed.
• 28:07
  But like you could see as soon as she like hit the line, looked
• 28:10
  at the clock like smile beaming on her face straight away so you
• 28:13
  could see what it meant for her. And then the other results there
• 28:16
  was there was a men's 5000 meters run back one by Aragawi
• 28:21
  in a 1250. And that was it was a good bat,
• 28:24
  good battle by three Ethiopians up the front there.
• 28:26
  They kind of pushed each other all the way.
• 28:29
  Aragawi, I think about 4:50 to go, just hit the front and
• 28:33
  started driving and servers, compatriots kind of went with
• 28:37
  him and it was very surgy along that back 300 straight.
• 28:42
  And Aragawa, as you're watching him and you're thinking he's
• 28:46
  made his last kick, he's emptied the tank, someone pulls up on
• 28:50
  him and he just finds another gear.
• 28:51
  He's a gritty little runner isn't he's only like he looks
• 28:55
  very short and elbows swinging everywhere but his glides across
• 28:59
  it. Also in that race you had Brian
• 29:02
  Fay, who has the Irish Melbourne connection with MTC back in 10th
• 29:07
  in a 1312 and Jude Thomas in 16th in 1332.
• 29:12
  Which is it kind of shows the realities of like travelling
• 29:16
  internationally week on week to try and race at the highest
• 29:20
  level as well as training in between to keep you shape.
• 29:24
  Because Jude was in Ballarat there the weekend before winning
• 29:27
  the the road mile champs. Looking like easy as anything.
• 29:30
  And then, yeah, just goes over to China there, and probably he
• 29:35
  would be happy to say he's a little bit disappointed with
• 29:38
  that run. Moving on to the Grand Slam
• 29:41
  track then. I feel like it's hard to cover
• 29:43
  these results because there's so many in a good way.
• 29:46
  They put on so many races, don't they?
• 29:48
  But the main ones from my point of view, and feel free if you
• 29:52
  want to speak about others, is the 18 the 8th 1500 crossover in
• 29:57
  which Josh Kerr got himself some redemption.
• 30:01
  He must have heard me slagging him off.
• 30:02
  So any other point to prove from the last one.
• 30:04
  And he won the 1500 in a 334 from Yard Nagus in 2nd and Cole
• 30:10
  Hacker in 3rd. And then when the 800 came
• 30:13
  around the next day it was marked the 800 specialist Marco
• 30:17
  a rock in a 14369 from a Botswana athlete who have not
• 30:21
  heard of before. Cathode Bogely Hein Guru in a
• 30:25
  14375 and Australia's very own people back in 3rd in a 144.13.
• 30:33
  So how that stacked up for the overall standings of that 815
• 30:38
  hundred discipline was Care 1A Rock second, Hein Guru, the Bots
• 30:43
  one and 3rd, Negus 4th all 5th and himself a tasty 30,000 U.S.
• 30:50
  dollars. Hawker the Olympic champ in 6th
• 30:53
  and Timothy Chariot in 7th. So when you look at the results
• 30:57
  like that and you see Pete Bowles beating and Cole Hawker
• 31:01
  and Timothy Chariot, it's shows the kind of form he's in.
• 31:04
  Yeah, he's moving. All right.
• 31:05
  What's the price drop? So first gets would you get
• 31:09
  money for winning for let's say Josh Kerr winning the 1500,
• 31:13
  Would he have got money for that or is it just the total combined
• 31:16
  815 hundred you get paid for? Yeah, it's just the what the
• 31:19
  total standings are, so it must mess with you to be fair.
• 31:23
  So like when you think Costco's won that 3K on the first day,
• 31:27
  he'd be thinking shit like, what have I got to do tomorrow to
• 31:30
  secure 100K? Like if I finish second, then
• 31:35
  Fisher has to win. He has to beat me by more than
• 31:37
  this much. And you, you probably, I don't
• 31:40
  know, are you doing those kind of calculations as you run in
• 31:43
  the second race or you just run as hard as you can?
• 31:45
  It must be hard. What does second get?
• 31:48
  How much money does second get? Does it have I?
• 31:50
  Don't know how much it drops off to be fair.
• 31:52
  Let me try a look or you have a look.
• 31:53
  Or yeah, that class current when he won his last 100 meters was
• 31:59
  like 11.89 seconds, which is just absolutely nuts.
• 32:05
  And like fair enough that I I like, I sort of like the way
• 32:08
  it's actual proper racing. So the winning time was only
• 32:11
  817, but Oh my God, they kick it down so, so hard.
• 32:15
  I think the last 200 was 25 point something and then the
• 32:19
  last 100 was 11. Like that is just mind boggling
• 32:24
  how fast that is. It's a lot more fun than just a
• 32:28
  like a pace race where like the the guy that's just done a heap
• 32:32
  of training is going to win. Like you really like these are
• 32:35
  really hard to pick these races, like particularly the men's
• 32:38
  middle distance ones, like where they're not sort of going out
• 32:42
  just all guns blazing. It's like, yeah, such a good
• 32:44
  done. And even the 815 hundred races,
• 32:47
  like, I don't know, the 800 guys seem to be on top.
• 32:49
  But then the 1500 guys are making their race is a bit
• 32:52
  stronger now. Like it's, yeah, it's fun
• 32:56
  viewing as a spectator for sure. Did you guys think Peter?
• 32:59
  Man. Sorry Ron, did you think that
• 33:01
  Peter Bowl maybe like eased up a bit in his 1500?
• 33:05
  Did you see him like give up a spot towards the end?
• 33:08
  He didn't like he backed off a bit towards the in like the
• 33:11
  final like 1050 meters of the 800 too.
• 33:15
  But it didn't cost him a spot. I think he still held on for 3rd
• 33:17
  but like I think he cost himself a spot and I it's like that's
• 33:21
  could be out of money like I'd be dipping I reckon.
• 33:24
  But I think he still finished like fourth maybe overall.
• 33:27
  Yeah, and this is what I was thinking when I was watching the
• 33:30
  the distance one the three K5K1. So cost Green won that first
• 33:35
  night in the 3K and then from I think Fisher got second in it,
• 33:39
  didn't he? Yeah, he just out dipped Fisher.
• 33:43
  So then on the last day when they're in the 5K, it's kind of
• 33:47
  a jog, jog fest for 2 miles. And then after about 3K, Fisher
• 33:53
  just absolutely puts the hammer down like randomly.
• 33:56
  And they're obviously all thinking like, oh, do we go?
• 33:58
  Do we not go? And usually if someone makes a
• 34:01
  move that far out, people probably don't go with it and
• 34:04
  then they think we're going to reel them back in anyway if we
• 34:07
  all start working together. But because they're not, they're
• 34:10
  not racing. I mean they are racing for the
• 34:12
  win but then the racing when it becomes Fisher gone they're all
• 34:16
  just racing each other there and then aren't they the almost like
• 34:19
  right off Fisher but then Costco is probably thinking oh shit
• 34:23
  that's my 100K running away from me here do a go after it and try
• 34:27
  and go for the win. Or do I kind of secure 2nd and
• 34:32
  just try and beat everyone who I'm with here and take the
• 34:35
  whatever it is 70 K. So it is a mad dynamic.
• 34:39
  But Fisher ran a 357 solo for that last mile once he left the
• 34:44
  group and he was, he was pumping the crowd up all the way up the
• 34:48
  finishing straight as well. He's stuff.
• 34:51
  He's a different beast, isn't he at the minute?
• 34:53
  He's hard back because he's he's got such a good kick now, but
• 34:56
  he's just so freaking fit as well.
• 34:58
  So he's like the perfect runner in a way.
• 35:01
  And so, yeah, like you have to hand down your Costco like what
• 35:04
  a run, like even that 3K. Yeah, he's he's at the moment
• 35:09
  and I think he's wet and New Balance Manchester, he's
• 35:13
  training with them now and which is good as well.
• 35:16
  Was he with MTC for a bit? Is that or managed by MTC?
• 35:20
  So I'm pretty sure he's still managed by MTC, He's just when
• 35:24
  he's in Europe or around Ireland, he's going to.
• 35:27
  He just trains with the New Balance Manchester group.
• 35:30
  He was. Over in Melbourne last year,
• 35:31
  wasn't he training? Yeah, he was training over here
• 35:34
  for a little while, but yeah, I don't know what's the story
• 35:36
  there. And 2nd place you would have got
• 35:38
  50,000 U.S. dollars for that weekend which is crazy.
• 35:42
  Remember we had a conversation a little while ago, I was telling
• 35:45
  you I'd seen on on X like the Ireland athletics funding
• 35:49
  allocations or whatever. And for the year he'd been
• 35:52
  allocated €18,000. So he's just like quadrupled his
• 35:57
  funding there from one race. And then you think there's four
• 36:01
  of these and they come month on month on month.
• 36:03
  So those the the races have the opportunity to like fishes just
• 36:08
  to earn 200 grand in 200 grand US in four weeks.
• 36:12
  But like that's where this event, this competition is so
• 36:15
  good, like Fisher, like I nearly kick him off it because he's
• 36:19
  just going to clean up like 400 grand or whatever.
• 36:22
  But for them, like smaller athletes, like for legs of
• 36:24
  Costco in there, like that is massive money for him.
• 36:27
  Like that will fund the next two years training whatever.
• 36:30
  Because as a runner, like as you see, Ireland give him SFA like
• 36:34
  sweet football, but a New Balance.
• 36:37
  I don't know how much he's getting off New Balance.
• 36:39
  Fair enough. He gets free kit and all that
• 36:40
  stuff, but it's still very hard to you're constantly living in a
• 36:43
  suitcase, like you're living abroad the whole time.
• 36:46
  Like you're like there's six. There's loads of like money
• 36:48
  going out and not much money going in.
• 36:51
  So for likes of him, like it's massive.
• 36:53
  And I do feel like a bit of a hypocrite because when we
• 36:56
  reviewed the last one, I did say all's they were going on about
• 37:00
  was 100K for the winner, 100K for the winner.
• 37:03
  But I guess this is where the story element of it comes in
• 37:06
  because there are kind of those lower profile athletes who can
• 37:09
  get such a big payday like that and you can kind of see what it
• 37:13
  can do for their careers. But it didn't feel like it was
• 37:16
  forced down your throat as much this time.
• 37:17
  Maybe that was a deliberate thing and because everyone knows
• 37:21
  how much money is involved in it now and you can just kind of
• 37:23
  take it all in. So then just quickly to go over
• 37:27
  the women's results in the 800 and the 1500 discipline highly
• 37:31
  won the 1500 and a 40696 with Nikki Hilts second, they ran a
• 37:39
  407.08 and with Telchi in 3rd and a 407.46.
• 37:44
  Then in the 800 version Mary Mora, and I think in that she
• 37:50
  must be a racer because in the first meet in Kingston she was a
• 37:54
  DNS I think, but she's bounced back here and won the 800 in a
• 37:58
  15951. Nikki Hilt second again in a
• 38:02
  15975 and Hilu third in a 15984 which meant that overall it was
• 38:07
  Hilu from Hilts from Mary Maura Witelchi 4th and Jess Hull
• 38:13
  representing Australia in 5th. So I think she would have.
• 38:17
  Is that where Pete Ball came fifth overall and then they
• 38:21
  would have shared a payday there which, even though you finished
• 38:24
  fifth, is rather tasty in itself. 20 grand.
• 38:26
  It's worth the trip, yeah. Absolutely they pay down to 7th
• 38:30
  doesn't if you're 70 till think you get like 12 1/2 U.S. dollar.
• 38:34
  Yeah, I think even if you like last you got like 10 grand or
• 38:36
  something. That's unreal.
• 38:38
  Yeah, 8 gets 10 grand, a 12.6 million prize pool across the
• 38:42
  season. Like how are they getting that?
• 38:45
  No way will they ever make that money back.
• 38:47
  I'm sorry, no matter how big running gets, but that's just
• 38:49
  crazy. Well I don't, I don't even want
• 38:51
  to say the name of it because it's rattled me and watching all
• 38:54
  the coverage but whichever the drink brand which is endorsing
• 38:58
  them. I've not heard of it pre Grand
• 39:00
  Slam track, but I'm going to contradict myself again here on
• 39:04
  9 in four weeks time I'll be stood with a can of it in my own
• 39:07
  hand or something. But it's it's cringing me out so
• 39:11
  much because they're all fucking stored with a can of it in the
• 39:14
  hand that like any given opportunity that we can't even
• 39:17
  MJ, he's like, however old he is and he's doing his interviews
• 39:21
  and like a snap back and a can of this drink, like holding it
• 39:23
  up so the camera can see it with it perfectly placed so that the
• 39:27
  logo is facing outwards. And obviously it's paying them a
• 39:31
  lot of money to do it, but it's just so obvious.
• 39:33
  And it's like, oh, come on, You must be able to like get the
• 39:36
  message across in a slightly more subliminal way.
• 39:39
  Even like Cooper tea. I find them so authentic.
• 39:43
  And he like he's on his YouTube, he's just himself, but then
• 39:46
  doing brand placement stuff in their videos as well.
• 39:49
  And you see him like, what's the thing out so that the brand
• 39:53
  label is on the outside and like you can see him looking at the
• 39:56
  can as he's doing it to make sure he knows where it is.
• 39:58
  And then he opens it. It's like, come on.
• 40:00
  But the. Same can get paid.
• 40:02
  That's what I mean, Yeah. So, but linking back to what you
• 40:05
  said, whichever brand this is, they must be paying a lot of
• 40:08
  money for that. Yeah, definitely.
• 40:11
  So the last set of results to cover off is the ASICS Tokyo
• 40:15
  Speed Race, which was a special event put on by ASICS in Tokyo
• 40:20
  to coincide with the launch of their new shoes.
• 40:23
  And this is quite clever Marks and really isn't.
• 40:25
  It was a bit of a risk because they had a lot of people run
• 40:28
  national records and area records, which obviously just
• 40:31
  sells the shoes in itself. They don't even need to force it
• 40:35
  down your throat. People will go asking and be
• 40:37
  intrigued, what are those shoes? Everyone's just ran the records
• 40:39
  and what happens if everyone runs shit time?
• 40:43
  I mean, we don't need to talk about it because they didn't,
• 40:45
  but. They don't do that.
• 40:47
  I'd say they test these like the boys have been running these
• 40:49
  shoes, I said for the past like 12 months.
• 40:52
  Like I said, they've no, they know they're good.
• 40:53
  Yeah, and ASICS probably would have put on bonuses for all of
• 40:57
  these records as well. Wouldn't need to incentivize the
• 40:59
  athletes to try and like peak and taper properly for these
• 41:02
  races to try and run a fast time.
• 41:04
  Absolutely, and I think it showed up better than the Adidas
• 41:07
  one the week previous. I don't know because they even
• 41:10
  ASIC even released a new super shoe.
• 41:11
  So there's the medicine speed sky many speed edge and then
• 41:15
  meta speed Ray, which I think is like specifically for elites and
• 41:20
  it's got I think it's an American race issue again, But
• 41:23
  yeah, they just go off. They're so like them.
• 41:26
  Shoes as incredible. Results here.
• 41:28
  Then Izzy Back Doyle ran a new Australian national record and
• 41:32
  an area record in a 3047 to improve on our own national
• 41:37
  record from 3112. So what's that 25 seconds?
• 41:41
  That's a big jump. 10K as well. So that's a ridiculous run.
• 41:46
  There is. He's just like up to madness
• 41:48
  constantly. That's two weeks, about two
• 41:51
  months post marathon, which is motivating given that we're like
• 41:56
  a week post marathon and feeling a bit sore and sorry for
• 42:00
  ourselves. So sort of and actually raised
• 42:02
  to three K two weeks after. I'm not quite ready to do that,
• 42:06
  but I need to start getting training again to try and run a
• 42:08
  PB. Well, I think there's a lot said
• 42:11
  for like the professional athlete, like, so when did you
• 42:13
  boys get back to work after the marathon?
• 42:16
  So you ran the marathon on Sunday.
• 42:17
  When did you start working again?
• 42:18
  Tuesday, Ryan, Tuesday. Yes, Sam.
• 42:21
  Like she would have had her feet up for the following week.
• 42:24
  Like they just recover so much faster because they just don't
• 42:26
  have the outside stresses of you guys like your lives.
• 42:29
  So I'd say give you guys a. Special feet up or doing it.
• 42:32
  She would have been doing a session probably by the time I
• 42:35
  was still limping round. But like, if get what I mean.
• 42:38
  Like, she just doesn't have them.
• 42:40
  Like, stresses Like, Ryan, you're a father now.
• 42:42
  Like, you have a cat. It's like she wouldn't have to
• 42:44
  deal with that sort of stuff. So yeah, if you just got rid of
• 42:49
  the cat, like you never know what could happen.
• 42:50
  So less emotional baggage with them and animals.
• 42:54
  Like you have to walk that cat day in, day out now.
• 42:57
  Like there's so much extra stress in your life.
• 42:59
  Thank God when I went on my double Trouble about making
• 43:03
  excuses for races, I didn't include cats in there because I
• 43:07
  can actually use the cat as an excuse still.
• 43:13
  Sam Clifford also ran a record on the men's side of things in
• 43:17
  the 28. I think it was 26.
• 43:19
  I haven't actually done my thorough research on this, but I
• 43:24
  think on the track Jack Rain has ran like 20.
• 43:27
  Is it 27 though? Yeah. 272711 or something.
• 43:31
  Yeah. So I mean, just to highlight
• 43:34
  that this is from the track records, but still, no one has
• 43:39
  ever ran faster on the road than Sam Clifford from an Australian
• 43:43
  point of view. So amazing run still.
• 43:45
  I think he ran 27 something. Sam Clifford.
• 43:48
  Yeah, he ran 2734. Yeah, I've got my time way off
• 43:52
  there. Then 2734 sounds a bit faster.
• 43:55
  Yeah. And I think Brandon, maybe he'd
• 43:57
  run like 2743. I think he had the previous.
• 44:00
  What's the record or area record?
• 44:02
  Oh yeah, Would that, is that in Tasmania?
• 44:04
  I'm sure that rings a bell. Now you're saying that.
• 44:06
  Maybe not, but. I think so.
• 44:08
  I think so, yeah. And then Reese, I've just
• 44:11
  blanked his surname. Reese Reese Edwards backed up
• 44:15
  from Ballarat the week after and ran 2932, which I mean, Reese
• 44:21
  works full time as well, so he doesn't quite have the luxury of
• 44:24
  that full recovery and he's gone on to Japan to run sub 30 a week
• 44:29
  after run the 216. Does he even work full time?
• 44:33
  Let's be real, he's like a physio isn't he?
• 44:35
  So he probably just kicks his hours.
• 44:38
  He's living the most professional life to.
• 44:40
  Japan on a holiday all week freshes the Daisy, no?
• 44:44
  He's a professional athlete, Lucky, real.
• 44:46
  Yeah, I mean he's he's probably taken some well timed annual
• 44:49
  leave in between those two races as name gone.
• 44:52
  I'll pick 6 grand up in Ballarat and then ASICS are going to pay
• 44:56
  for me to fly to Tokyo and then I'll probably get paid whatever
• 45:01
  it is. Probably won't be a lot, but
• 45:02
  just to stand on the start line there and then he gets to walk
• 45:06
  away with a nice juicy PB from it and a pair of brand new super
• 45:09
  shoes. So the one thing I will say, and
• 45:11
  this is absolutely nothing to do with the people who've run those
• 45:15
  times because I thought this like before any of the races
• 45:18
  finished. But I was like, if these records
• 45:20
  are getting answered and stuff here.
• 45:23
  Has wavelengths ever been used on road races before?
• 45:27
  Because they had like, I mean, the loop doesn't matter, but the
• 45:30
  loop was perfect and that's fine.
• 45:33
  But they had the width the use of wave lights on the road
• 45:35
  there, and unless I'm mistaken, that might be the first time
• 45:39
  they've ever used wave lights on the road.
• 45:41
  I didn't actually see any of this, so I don't even know if
• 45:44
  they if they had wave lights on the road.
• 45:45
  Yeah, that would probably be a first, which is pretty cool in a
• 45:48
  way, but sort of takes away from the actual racing.
• 45:51
  Yeah, I mean, you should have seen the pack as he was in there
• 45:53
  was like picture Breaking 2 from Kip Jogi and she was just in a
• 45:58
  pack like that. It looked unbelievable but like
• 46:00
  I'd love to just get in there and probably blow up the last
• 46:04
  three K anyway. No wonder she's run like an
• 46:08
  unbelievable time because it just looked like the most
• 46:11
  idyllic racing conditions you could ask for.
• 46:13
  I think it's like a 1.3 K circular loop and they ran it
• 46:17
  obviously however many times they would need to for the five
• 46:21
  in the 10K. But on the on the 10K in the
• 46:23
  men's race, there was a guy so at the end of the loop on the
• 46:26
  last lap, they had to like turn off left to run through the
• 46:29
  finish line. And this guy obviously forgot
• 46:32
  what lap he was on and just he was in.
• 46:34
  There's like three of them going for the win as well and he just
• 46:36
  ran straight on the two turn left.
• 46:39
  Finished thousand with him for 10 the wrong way there.
• 46:44
  I seen the five lad won the five Ki think he ran like 13 flat but
• 46:49
  umm he's he's a Kenyan or Ugandan or whatever East
• 46:53
  African. And the poor chap, he had such
• 46:55
  little English and the commenta the lad asked him questions like
• 46:59
  interview him after the race was asking him the most stupidest
• 47:03
  questions ever. Like the poor chap didn't have a
• 47:05
  clue what he was asking him. And he was like oh how do these
• 47:10
  model of shoes compared to the previous ones.
• 47:13
  And the chap literally had the notion and you could see he was
• 47:15
  just trying to say like they weren't good or like he felt
• 47:19
  good but oh it felt so bad for the chap.
• 47:22
  Yeah, they were using the translator as well, I think,
• 47:24
  weren't they? He didn't have a translator.
• 47:27
  He was on his own, poor guy. So that concludes the mammoth
• 47:30
  results section. We're back up to date on the
• 47:33
  results in the news now and we shall not miss another week of
• 47:37
  news because that is a long process to catch up on two
• 47:40
  weeks. Actually, just one more thing,
• 47:42
  the weekend of I think it was London, an Irish guy, Peter
• 47:47
  Lynch ran Dusseldorf marathon and he broke the Irish marathon
• 47:51
  record. He 20930 something.
• 47:53
  He took a couple of seconds off it.
• 47:55
  So yeah, shout out to him. He's part of the Puma Elite
• 47:58
  group in in America, trained by Alistair Craig, so yeah.
• 48:02
  And that was off the the YouTube.
• 48:04
  No, no, no, no. This guy doesn't have a YouTube.
• 48:07
  No, but the former record holder.
• 48:09
  Former record holder No. So Stephen Scullion had it
• 48:13
  before Dublin Martin last year, then this guy Hiko Tenosa, he
• 48:18
  trains at Dublin Track Club which is linked with Melbourne
• 48:21
  Track Club. He broke that record in Dublin
• 48:23
  last year. He ran 20940 something and then
• 48:26
  Peter Lynch literally 2 weeks to our last week in Dusseldorf,
• 48:31
  which I don't have never heard of the marathon there, but
• 48:33
  apparently it's pretty fast. But he ran yeah, two O 930
• 48:37
  something. So new marathon record for
• 48:39
  Ireland. We're slowly getting down there
• 48:42
  to the 2O2O lows, you know? It's mad there's so many
• 48:47
  marathons in Europe because when I'm when I'm putting like the
• 48:50
  results together and stuff each week for this, I go on a website
• 48:54
  called Watch Athletics and it lists kind of like all the major
• 48:57
  races and meets across the world that have happened in the past
• 49:01
  week. And there's just always like a
• 49:03
  different European city on there each week.
• 49:06
  Like Prague Marathon and Hanover marathon, Stockholm marathon,
• 49:10
  like all these cities that you don't associate with marathon.
• 49:14
  And I click into them just in case to see if there's like any
• 49:18
  noticeable names there and stuff.
• 49:19
  There's it's always one in sub 210 probably by like usually
• 49:23
  some Africans. But still, it just shows you
• 49:26
  that there are these races out there and you clearly can run
• 49:29
  fast at them. But like what's going into
• 49:31
  Europe, like there is so many races and like let's say even
• 49:34
  for that, any of the marathons, you're only get a couple of
• 49:37
  grand prize money. It's like it's worth their while
• 49:39
  nearly just coming in Europe, staying there for a bit,
• 49:42
  cleaning up, and then going back home to Africa to feed all the
• 49:44
  kids. Speaking of European marathons,
• 49:48
  our mates going to Copenhagen this week, isn't he, Mr.
• 49:50
  Barclough? Seen that?
• 49:52
  Is he actually? My God, he just ran like an
• 49:54
  ultra last week last night. Last night.
• 49:58
  He's too. Oh my God.
• 50:00
  Did you guys say that? Table.
• 50:02
  Have you seen what he's doing in training?
• 50:05
  And did you have you seen his latest video?
• 50:07
  I'm off Strava. I haven't went on in ages
• 50:09
  because it just makes me sad. But I've just seen, I've seen
• 50:12
  that I I've seen he put out a video, but I didn't actually
• 50:14
  watch it. It was all about training
• 50:17
  harder, not smarter. And he's gone to triple run
• 50:19
  days. So he's he's taken on a bit of
• 50:22
  like Cam Levens and other sort of an inspiration from other
• 50:26
  similar runners that do triple run days.
• 50:28
  And he his video came off the back of having just run a
• 50:33
  marathon the day before. And then he proceeded to run a
• 50:36
  280 K week and in that week included quality doing triple
• 50:41
  run days. And then that that was say a
• 50:43
  week ago. And then this week just gone, he
• 50:47
  did the Wings for life race, which have you seen the the
• 50:51
  concept of of that, which is basically there's a car that
• 50:55
  starts, I don't know if it's like an hour or so, it allows
• 50:58
  you to maybe you start running and then there's basically like
• 51:01
  a virtual line that the car goes at.
• 51:03
  And once the car catches you, your race finishes.
• 51:07
  And the idea is everyone gets caught but it and it starts at
• 51:12
  the same time in different places the world over.
• 51:15
  And, and basically the car quickens every at certain
• 51:19
  intervals. And I think there's like a
• 51:21
  theory and he finished third in the world.
• 51:25
  Is it, is it Joe for CUDA, like a 209 marathoner won it.
• 51:31
  And there was some European that was also still running that
• 51:36
  finished second. And I've just seen this footage
• 51:38
  of him, not through his content, but just it just appeared on my
• 51:42
  Instagram reel. He looks absolutely wrecked.
• 51:44
  Apparently his bows were giving him grief and he couldn't ingest
• 51:47
  food for like the last 20 or so case.
• 51:49
  And he looks absolutely spent. And I think he had to do
• 51:52
  multiple toilet stops and he couldn't ingest food.
• 51:55
  And he's just run himself absolutely ragged.
• 51:57
  Like he looked tired even for him who must live tired.
• 52:01
  So how he's going to freshen up for Sunday Like he's a machine.
• 52:07
  He's like he's built different. Will he run like under 225 do
• 52:11
  you think, or is that even a stretch?
• 52:13
  I think this is, it's not a time, it's not like a race, but
• 52:17
  yeah. OK, he's just doing it then.
• 52:20
  Is it? It's.
• 52:21
  Not, I think it's not like he's not just doing it.
• 52:25
  It's like he's gonna look to run fast.
• 52:27
  But he's he's talking about Gold Coast running like sub 210.
• 52:31
  But he's gonna try and know if he's gonna try and run a PB.
• 52:33
  But I think he wants to run fast in Copenhagen.
• 52:37
  So I see he was on my Strava timeline this morning.
• 52:40
  I seen he done, he done like A10 or 12K run or something this
• 52:44
  morning. I was like, hang on, I'm sure
• 52:46
  he's he was running an ultra or something yesterday.
• 52:50
  So clicked into his profile to see like when his ultra was and
• 52:54
  he started at 8:00 PM last night ran 330 sevens for over 4 hours.
• 53:00
  So he's running until after midnight and then he's. 68 OK
• 53:04
  this morning I was. Like what the hell?
• 53:10
  How does this guy do it? I don't want to talk about my
• 53:13
  training week now. How does he get away?
• 53:15
  Like I don't think anyone else will get away with it.
• 53:17
  I think he's just built different.
• 53:19
  Yeah, here and here, like legs end between knees.
• 53:25
  You know it's. Crazy.
• 53:26
  It's very inspiring. Well, it's almost to the point
• 53:28
  where it's not replicable. Gus said that I won't be up in
• 53:31
  Gold Coast for that weekend because like, then I feel like
• 53:34
  he could have something special up his sleeve if it all comes
• 53:37
  together and he's just able to like, almost mess around and do
• 53:40
  this stuff, yeah. It's a machine.
• 53:42
  So then the training week, the travel week, the absolutely
• 53:46
  nothing week, who wants to take us through what happened last
• 53:49
  week? Will.
• 53:50
  I go first. Start with when you flew.
• 53:53
  Well I'll start Monday and Monday I tried to run and it was
• 53:56
  too sore so stack that off. Tuesday was the D-Day leaving
• 54:01
  day so flight was at 10:20. Left Perth 11 1/2 hours later.
• 54:07
  I rocked up in Dubai, 2 hour layover there.
• 54:10
  Then I flew from Dubai to Dublin, which is like 9 1/2
• 54:13
  hours I think. And then yeah, I got to Dublin
• 54:14
  at around half one. Then it's just like a short
• 54:17
  little drive to my house. Surprised my family, which was
• 54:20
  really nice. It's good to see them all.
• 54:21
  My little brother is not so little anymore.
• 54:23
  Nyler, who's a big fan of the show.
• 54:27
  Yeah, now it's good to see everyone.
• 54:28
  I haven't ran. I'm just cycling, ellipticaling,
• 54:31
  keeping up with the physio. But yeah, I start work tomorrow,
• 54:35
  which is nice. Hopefully I'm not like it
• 54:37
  anymore. I I genuinely thought jet lag
• 54:40
  was a myth. Myth because, oh, coming over
• 54:42
  here, I didn't get anything. But I did stop in Thailand on
• 54:44
  the way over here over to Australia initially and but
• 54:48
  yeah, Oh my God, it's not fun at all.
• 54:50
  But yeah, I'm not doing no running, no races planned.
• 54:55
  So just trying to get my leg right cross running away.
• 54:57
  And yeah, that's me. Did you get much sleep on the on
• 55:00
  the travel bar? On the big flight from Perth to
• 55:05
  buy guys, there's these two kids and they weren't even that
• 55:08
  young, but Oh my God, they roared the plane down.
• 55:12
  They're Irish and Oh my God, I didn't get a wink idea.
• 55:16
  Plugs in, eye mask on, but you just say they're literally the
• 55:19
  row two rows behind us. They it was the worst.
• 55:23
  Like it's actually they should be like in a like it's like just
• 55:26
  thrown in a room or underneath the plane or something like that
• 55:29
  because no one could sleep, no one.
• 55:31
  And like for 11 1/2 hours. It's torture.
• 55:33
  And so I was in and out obviously with the kids
• 55:37
  screaming and then from Dubai to Dublin, I, you sort of got like
• 55:44
  I was sort of getting excited to go home and all.
• 55:45
  So I genuinely didn't sleep for like 28 hours.
• 55:49
  Yes, I won't be doing that anytime soon.
• 55:51
  What what are you doing when when the kids are kicking off on
• 55:54
  a flight? How are you managing that
• 55:56
  situation? You just, you just apologize for
• 55:59
  the first little bit and then you just stop apologizing and
• 56:01
  just wish that it was over, basically.
• 56:03
  Oh. Shit, I forgot.
• 56:05
  Yeah, you're a dad. Go use your dad's name.
• 56:11
  Yeah, it can relate. I'd say it's.
• 56:13
  Because you can't actually do nothing.
• 56:14
  Like no, I think the child, I think they were spoiled wrong.
• 56:17
  Like they're just kicking and screaming.
• 56:19
  Um, but yeah, like, yeah, the only thing I could think was.
• 56:23
  Carry it. You try and like, try and bring
• 56:25
  things onto the plane to try and make it.
• 56:27
  Yeah, the things you can try and do.
• 56:29
  But yeah, Ryan, what would you do?
• 56:30
  And you're. Certainly better travelling
• 56:31
  without. Them Ryan, what would you do if
• 56:33
  Gummy Bear was kicking off a fuss?
• 56:35
  The cat was meowing on a plane. Well, the irony is we've
• 56:39
  actually looked into how much it costs to get a cat on a flight,
• 56:43
  believe it or not. Like seeing as we're now, we've
• 56:46
  now taken full custody of this cat in case like it might have
• 56:50
  to come back to the UK one day. I think it's about £1500, but I
• 56:55
  think it would go downstairs like in the cargo in a crate or
• 56:59
  something that's. An expensive cat.
• 57:01
  Wow. But that's, well, that's what I
• 57:02
  said to Becky anyway about going downstairs and she's like, no,
• 57:06
  no, you can, like you can pay for it to be on the seat as
• 57:09
  well, like next to you. I heard, I think Dean, I think
• 57:12
  your family would love a little kitten to run around the place.
• 57:16
  Queens would love it our. House is pretty full, no?
• 57:21
  Yeah. Add to the chaos.
• 57:22
  Thinker. Yeah, that's wow.
• 57:24
  Yeah, pretty soon, aren't we? We needed and we needed a minder
• 57:29
  in the next couple of weeks. And Becky has multiple times
• 57:33
  said to me ask Dean if he'd like a cat in his house and tell him
• 57:37
  how fun it would be for the kids.
• 57:40
  But I've managed to divert her attention elsewhere.
• 57:43
  Dean. I appreciate that I I've been
• 57:45
  really keep my kids alive. So then hopefully cut it out for
• 57:49
  a cat. And Owen, going back to your
• 57:52
  travel, did you manage to get down the driveway unscathed
• 57:55
  because that's what you were worried about, wasn't it being
• 57:57
  no sis on the final approach to. Be honest.
• 58:00
  I rocked up to the house and there was no one there.
• 58:01
  Then we went back and then my mom and my sister were there and
• 58:04
  my dad. But it wasn't until I had to go.
• 58:08
  My brother had gone to training. My other brother was somewhere
• 58:13
  in Dublin and my sister, there's three of them that weren't in
• 58:15
  the house until like midnight. So I was just like chit waiting
• 58:18
  around all day waiting for them to come home.
• 58:20
  It wasn't exactly what I pictured, but I know they're all
• 58:24
  shocked and they're all happy around.
• 58:26
  So your grand kilometers, grand total kilometers for the week
• 58:30
  running is 0 big fat. 0. Yeah, well then we can't get, we
• 58:35
  can't get any less than that. So you tell us about your week.
• 58:38
  Yeah, not much, not much different.
• 58:40
  I am. The morning after the marathon I
• 58:42
  was still in Ballarat, so I did one last lap of Lake Windery
• 58:49
  with hails. So that was 6K's.
• 58:52
  I just remember it being incredibly uncomfortable.
• 58:56
  Gosh, I can't remember what the first K was.
• 58:58
  It wouldn't have been pretty. Remember, Hail's having to wait
• 59:01
  for me. Did you see my soy and.
• 59:06
  Then just remnants of it and then, yeah, it got got down to a
• 59:13
  speedy 5 1/2 minute K pace by the end.
• 59:16
  But yeah, did a bit of a shake out, didn't feel legs felt
• 59:20
  trashed, but nothing felt absolutely terrible, which was
• 59:23
  good. But then that was probably up
• 59:26
  until when that was the good time.
• 59:28
  Sort of came a bit to an end. We sort of got home and yeah, we
• 59:32
  sort of run into sick, some sick little kitties, so we were sort
• 59:36
  of looking after them and then sort of ended up getting unwell
• 59:41
  myself. So I didn't run again until
• 59:43
  later in the week. Went out for a jog, I think on
• 59:47
  like the Thursday, didn't feel too bad, end up feeling worse on
• 59:52
  Friday. So took Friday off.
• 59:53
  So yeah, I did 7 1/2 KS on the Thursday and then it was not
• 59:57
  until Sunday went out for another jog.
• 1:00:01
  No so went for a jog on Saturday and then went for a jog a
• 1:00:04
  smaller jog on the Sunday. Wanted it to be a bit longer but
• 1:00:08
  just felt pretty rubbish. So just did a short out and back
• 1:00:12
  7K run. And so I think it was a grand
• 1:00:15
  total of maybe what, 20 KS or something for the week, which is
• 1:00:19
  my shortest week in quite a while.
• 1:00:23
  But look, it's the week after a marathon.
• 1:00:25
  I feel like if you can, if there was a time to miss a few days,
• 1:00:28
  it'd be then. So yeah, nothing.
• 1:00:30
  I don't feel like anything's necessarily broken.
• 1:00:33
  I just think my, my quads, I ran to and from work today and my
• 1:00:37
  quads still pretty feel, feel pretty wrecked.
• 1:00:41
  Hoping that they start to bounce back a bit soon.
• 1:00:44
  But yeah, I might try and get down to a session maybe on
• 1:00:46
  Thursday, but we'll just see how we go have.
• 1:00:49
  You had the rope or anything since.
• 1:00:52
  No, no, no, just no. Just getting rest.
• 1:00:56
  Some, you know, sleep when I can, but not sort of.
• 1:00:59
  Yeah. Just back to family and work,
• 1:01:02
  really. It's a stress.
• 1:01:03
  I don't know if you can relate to this, but my like kind of
• 1:01:06
  mental headspace last week was a bit weird because it's like, oh,
• 1:01:10
  you want to make the most of kind of it being that week
• 1:01:13
  immediately post marathon. Like you've been so strict on
• 1:01:17
  like not food or anything, but in terms of like your routine,
• 1:01:21
  you run in the morning, you run in the evening, you don't miss a
• 1:01:24
  session, you don't cut any run short by 5 or 10 minutes.
• 1:01:27
  Like everything is just so structured and so routine.
• 1:01:30
  Then you just do it, not necessarily because you want to
• 1:01:33
  be doing it, but because you just are doing it and you know
• 1:01:37
  that that's the case. But last week, obviously there's
• 1:01:40
  no like immediate goal or no set structure.
• 1:01:43
  So I was just kind of like trying to enjoy that and like
• 1:01:46
  just being a bit easy on myself to be like, Oh well, I'll just
• 1:01:50
  run in the evening and have a lie in and make the most of not
• 1:01:54
  often to like get out of bed and run straight away.
• 1:01:56
  But then then I would just makes you feel a little bit shit,
• 1:01:59
  doesn't it? And then by the end of the week,
• 1:02:01
  I mean, I won't go through my weeks because I'm talking about
• 1:02:04
  it here, but I didn't run Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and
• 1:02:06
  then around on Thursday. And once my body actually
• 1:02:11
  started to feel like a bit fresh and stuff, it made me realize
• 1:02:16
  how much you do actually love going out and going for a run
• 1:02:20
  because for so long you've been running because you have to.
• 1:02:23
  Well, it feels like you have to because you're training for
• 1:02:25
  something and you can't miss a run.
• 1:02:27
  You're running twice a day, blah, blah.
• 1:02:29
  But now once you kind of take all those pressures and stuff
• 1:02:32
  away and then you just run because you genuinely want to.
• 1:02:36
  It's so enjoyable. And when you when you're not
• 1:02:38
  like crazily fatigued either. But yeah, some like kind of go
• 1:02:42
  yo in between, like I can't be fucked going for a run, so I'm
• 1:02:45
  not going to go for a run. And then it's like, we'll feel
• 1:02:47
  good, want to do a session, but you've just got to take it for
• 1:02:51
  what it is and just kind of enjoy these these down periods,
• 1:02:54
  I guess. Yeah, I think so.
• 1:02:56
  I sort of like this time, like the marathon's like that peak of
• 1:02:59
  like, yeah, you know, you throw so much into it.
• 1:03:02
  I feel like you give yourself a few weeks to like, yeah, if you
• 1:03:05
  don't feel like doing something, don't do something, can
• 1:03:08
  reconnect with other parts of life that you know, are more
• 1:03:11
  important. And then you can running can be
• 1:03:14
  more serious again soon. But I know for myself, like, I
• 1:03:18
  like, I love my week where I'm getting a healthy amount of
• 1:03:22
  exercise in each day. Like I feel nice when I'm
• 1:03:24
  getting in a nice amount of running and that's my best week.
• 1:03:28
  So when I can get back to that, yeah, I can't wait because,
• 1:03:31
  yeah, part of me, like, you know, wants to just eat crap and
• 1:03:33
  not train, but you sort of don't want to do that for too long
• 1:03:37
  because that's not what I like doing.
• 1:03:39
  Wait, you know, day in, day out day, each day that has a
• 1:03:42
  sprinkling of exercise in it is what makes me happier.
• 1:03:46
  So yeah, I'll certainly be heading back to that sort of
• 1:03:49
  when I can for sure. So I had, I had a prime example
• 1:03:52
  of that on Friday. So on the Thursday, I've done my
• 1:03:55
  first run since around half an hour, thought OK, and then
• 1:03:58
  Friday I was going to run 45 minutes, you know, build it up
• 1:04:03
  and didn't run in the morning because couldn't be bothered.
• 1:04:07
  And then I was going to run in the evening and got home from
• 1:04:09
  work. I was like, oh shit.
• 1:04:10
  I'm like leaning towards wanting to like just put a film on and
• 1:04:14
  binge here. And I'm finding it really hard
• 1:04:16
  to say no to that and go for a run.
• 1:04:19
  So that's when I was like, fuck it, this is the time to like be
• 1:04:22
  OK, I don't want to go for a run.
• 1:04:24
  So I'm not going to go for a run.
• 1:04:26
  Went potentially slightly overboard, went down to IGA, got
• 1:04:30
  85 cookies from the bakery, like full-sized ones, 5 cookies.
• 1:04:35
  Then you know when you can't decide what it is that you want
• 1:04:37
  to choose, so you buy like 3 or 4 things.
• 1:04:40
  So got a white chocolate and Raspberry muffin.
• 1:04:42
  The whole of that went to and then a chocolate bar as well.
• 1:04:46
  And then I was sat there afterwards and sometimes after
• 1:04:50
  doing something like that, you can feel like absolutely
• 1:04:52
  horrific and hate yourself. But because I'd like actively
• 1:04:56
  made the choice to, I was just so happy.
• 1:04:58
  I was like, this is so good. And then I woke up on Saturday
• 1:05:03
  and was like actually motivated to like, OK, now it's the
• 1:05:06
  weekend. I'm going to like go for a run
• 1:05:08
  birthdays and enjoy it and stuff.
• 1:05:09
  So it was a nice balance. And actually, this story needs
• 1:05:14
  to tell you is on the run on Saturday, I met one of my
• 1:05:17
  friends who isn't necessarily a runner, but he can go for a run.
• 1:05:21
  And we went for a jog round herdsman.
• 1:05:24
  And I was telling him about Snake Alley, but that I'd never
• 1:05:27
  seen a snake down there. And literally the first little
• 1:05:30
  trail, but we went down. He like stops in the middle of
• 1:05:33
  the run. He said whoa brother, if you got
• 1:05:36
  the sense that was a Scottish accent, but he's Scottish.
• 1:05:40
  And I was like what the fuck are you doing?
• 1:05:41
  Like he literally just grabbed me and I thought he's taking the
• 1:05:44
  piss. He's like no, no and points at
• 1:05:46
  the trail and there's, I don't know if it was a tiger, but
• 1:05:50
  there are loads of tigers there aren't there?
• 1:05:51
  That's what it's like infamous for.
• 1:05:53
  And he's literally just parked up in the middle of the of the
• 1:05:56
  trail, sat there for like 5 seconds or so whilst we stared
• 1:06:01
  at it and then just slowly slivered off.
• 1:06:03
  And I was like fuck me, you literally couldn't write that.
• 1:06:05
  I'd just been telling him about Snake Alley.
• 1:06:07
  But how does no snakes down there It's.
• 1:06:09
  Like the fifth most venomous snake in the world?
• 1:06:11
  I think so. There you go.
• 1:06:13
  I'll be pulled me up otherwise snake could have been getting
• 1:06:16
  flicked back into the bushes. My week and then Sunday are just
• 1:06:21
  in 60 minutes before going to the DFO and shit, Adidas was was
• 1:06:28
  looking good on Sunday. I was sending you through some
• 1:06:31
  photos was an eye of what was in there.
• 1:06:34
  I end up coming away with a pair of the Boston twelves of Have
• 1:06:37
  you sworn them before? It's supposed to be like a
• 1:06:40
  decent training shoe only, well, kind of like an everyday up
• 1:06:44
  tempo long run shoe. Owen, you're the guy.
• 1:06:47
  Once I'm the guy, but yeah, they've got like these energy
• 1:06:50
  rods. So not cabin play, but energy
• 1:06:51
  rods. That's what I did as you in
• 1:06:53
  their shoes. But yeah, I'd use it for tempo
• 1:06:56
  threshold like all that, sort of longer, more snappier.
• 1:06:59
  The thing $120.00 paid for them, which is an absolute stale and
• 1:07:04
  unfortunately they didn't have any of my size in the end they
• 1:07:06
  had they had the office pro fours in there for $200, which
• 1:07:10
  is absolutely ludicrous. And then I was going to ask you
• 1:07:13
  about these. You know those the prime X ones,
• 1:07:16
  which are like the they're illegal technically based on the
• 1:07:20
  stack height, the too high. So I mean, sad because because
• 1:07:23
  I'm not a professional and I would never get, well, I don't
• 1:07:26
  think get banned for wearing them, but I wouldn't even buy
• 1:07:30
  them and wear them anyway because if I did run a PB in
• 1:07:34
  them, in the back of my mind I'd be like, yeah, but the shoes are
• 1:07:37
  illegal. So you're basically cheating
• 1:07:38
  anyway. Just like I would never wear
• 1:07:40
  super shoes on the track because at the top level you're not
• 1:07:43
  allowed to do it. And I wouldn't want that doubt.
• 1:07:45
  I mean, people might not think that way, but I do.
• 1:07:48
  Yeah, them ones, I think they've got 2 cabin plates in it, like
• 1:07:51
  stacked on top of each other or something like that.
• 1:07:54
  And the stack is way too high as well, like for let's say for a
• 1:07:57
  long run and all that sort of stuff.
• 1:07:59
  Like they're super, super comfy and they just offload all the
• 1:08:02
  pressure. So that's where I personally
• 1:08:04
  would try and throw them in the rotation.
• 1:08:06
  Yeah. And that's how they've ended up
• 1:08:07
  in the DFO because they've obviously produced them and then
• 1:08:11
  not maybe sold as many since they weren't illegal.
• 1:08:14
  No, they're releasing a new model.
• 1:08:15
  They're bringing out a new one. Yeah, SO might have 3 cabin
• 1:08:20
  plates. So what was your grand total for
• 1:08:22
  the week, Dean? 2020 KS.
• 1:08:25
  Funny. Well, I was 30 so that gives us
• 1:08:28
  50K between the three of us. That's.
• 1:08:30
  What Jake does in a day. Dean, do you want to talk to us
• 1:08:33
  about YouTube Diaries? Sure.
• 1:08:36
  We're at, we're at. Do you want to keep on going or
• 1:08:39
  leave it till next? I'll cut it down.
• 1:08:46
  This is what happens when you're not here, Owen.
• 1:08:48
  This is what this is what we've become.
• 1:08:50
  This is the new normal. I can't just great, go for it.
• 1:08:59
  I'm just conscious. You, you have to go to bed.
• 1:09:01
  Yeah. We, we gotta find a way to, you
• 1:09:04
  know, we gotta tighten some things up, don't we?
• 1:09:06
  Trim some hair. Yeah, I need to stop chatting
• 1:09:08
  shit, that's why. We just live such entertaining
• 1:09:11
  lives. We, we just got so much to say,
• 1:09:14
  all right? Like I didn't didn't have to
• 1:09:15
  stop to happen to me. Yeah, he's barely scratched the
• 1:09:19
  surface. All right.
• 1:09:23
  So yeah, YouTube Diaries. I thought given, you know, sort
• 1:09:27
  of starting from the bottom again and sort of building back
• 1:09:30
  fitness, we could and I like to do a 2 parter sort of old
• 1:09:34
  YouTube, new YouTube. I do one on a couple of rabbit
• 1:09:40
  holes I sometimes go down, which is around like YouTube channels
• 1:09:43
  or you that offer some like educational content.
• 1:09:48
  So there's one like playlist you can find if you YouTube Jack
• 1:09:53
  Daniels. Jack Daniels is like a like a
• 1:09:57
  running or father in terms of training, philosophy and and
• 1:10:02
  sort of education is like very knowledgeable, sort of shares
• 1:10:05
  the name with, you know, the spirit.
• 1:10:08
  So it's hard to forget. But yeah, if you put in
• 1:10:10
  something like Jack Daniels easy running or Jack Daniels
• 1:10:13
  Threshold or Jack Daniels double runs or Jack Daniels VO2HE sort
• 1:10:18
  of there's a whole series of like short videos that are no
• 1:10:23
  more than 5 minutes long. So much shorter than the easy
• 1:10:25
  double episodes that you can get a nice bite sized piece of what
• 1:10:30
  is like where it's sort of explained, distilled really well
• 1:10:34
  and really factual explanation of what the training zone is or
• 1:10:37
  what the idea is. And he sort of explains it
• 1:10:41
  really well and really clearly. So I love them.
• 1:10:44
  It's just as I share them with people if people ask me
• 1:10:46
  questions about to try and explain why do you train in this
• 1:10:50
  zone or train at this effort. So Jack Daniels huge Yeah on
• 1:10:53
  YouTube and then. You see the guy with the
• 1:10:56
  calculator as well, that that comes from him, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:01
  And these, the snippets on YouTube are just from a series
• 1:11:03
  of lectures he's given. And I've just put it into like
• 1:11:06
  little bites that you can sort of just digest at your own time.
• 1:11:09
  And they've, they've been on, they've been on YouTube for
• 1:11:11
  years. But then more recent is Steve
• 1:11:13
  Magnus. So I think he's like written a
• 1:11:17
  lot of books. And so he's like a like a
• 1:11:20
  running author and sort of, I think very popular on Twitter or
• 1:11:25
  X and releases very regular YouTube content sort of sharing
• 1:11:30
  his ideas around training philosophy, training zones and
• 1:11:34
  the like. And I, I think he creates a 15
• 1:11:37
  to 20 minute educational videos that I find interesting to
• 1:11:41
  listen to, like goes into a bit more detail than those Jack
• 1:11:45
  Daniels clips, but I always find his take on things like easy to
• 1:11:48
  digest and educational. So just another one where if
• 1:11:52
  you're looking to learn a bit more about different parts of
• 1:11:54
  running between those two channels, that team tend to have
• 1:11:58
  a lot of good content. Can't remember if Steve if this
• 1:12:01
  conversation was had on here or in person, but Steve Magnus was
• 1:12:05
  originally part of Alberto Salazar set up and he was the
• 1:12:10
  whistleblower who can attend them in.
• 1:12:12
  So he's yeah. Do we have that?
• 1:12:14
  He's quite yeah, potentially. But yeah, he's very science and
• 1:12:19
  evidence based, isn't he? He always puts out tweets like
• 1:12:23
  or if you're on Instagram, he puts up a post today and they're
• 1:12:26
  actually really, really good. They just make you think he like
• 1:12:28
  comes to. Things.
• 1:12:29
  Yeah, thought provoking. Yeah, it's really good.
• 1:12:31
  There are two things, not YouTube Diaries, but Instagram
• 1:12:36
  reels because I want to put them on the story on the easy double,
• 1:12:39
  but I'm going to have to give some context on them.
• 1:12:41
  So I'm not sure any of my like non runnings group of friends
• 1:12:46
  listen to this. I can't imagine that they do.
• 1:12:48
  Maybe they listen to the first one out of intrigue, but then
• 1:12:51
  quickly gave up. But Bay two of them in the past
• 1:12:55
  couple of weeks have definitely humbled me in sending me these
• 1:12:59
  two rails. So one of them's like this guy
• 1:13:01
  in the pub after a marathon and he's just ran like I think it's
• 1:13:04
  246 and he's obviously going on about it.
• 1:13:07
  He's got his medal on and stuff and his mates going to me.
• 1:13:11
  Nobody cares that you run a marathon and he's going, yeah,
• 1:13:15
  but it was 3 minutes quicker than last year.
• 1:13:17
  Last year was 249. And he said Oh my God, nobody
• 1:13:22
  cares, well done. 3 minutes quicker.
• 1:13:25
  And I've just opened that from a mate who doesn't run and I think
• 1:13:29
  he's just trying to tell me something basically like shut up
• 1:13:31
  talking about running. And then there was there was
• 1:13:37
  another one which was quite funny.
• 1:13:39
  Another of my let's say an inverted commas friends sent me
• 1:13:43
  this because they're clearly just trying to take the piss out
• 1:13:44
  on me. And it's this guy like turns up
• 1:13:47
  to his mates house. And the caption is something
• 1:13:49
  like runners now speaking to someone 10 years ago.
• 1:13:54
  And this guy knocks on the door. And to the fellow who answers,
• 1:13:58
  he's like, hey, mate, I just ran 10K.
• 1:14:01
  And the guy in the doorway is like, OK.
• 1:14:03
  And the other fellows, like, my average pace was 415 per
• 1:14:06
  kilometer. And the guy's like, wow, OK, my
• 1:14:10
  cadence was this, my heart rate was this.
• 1:14:12
  And the guy's just like, why are you telling me all this stuff?
• 1:14:15
  Literally nobody's asking you. He's like, I felt really good.
• 1:14:18
  I'll probably do it again tomorrow, but maybe I'll go a
• 1:14:20
  little bit easier because then on Saturday, I want to do this,
• 1:14:24
  listening to it. Like, shit, these are just
• 1:14:26
  absolutely rinsing me by sending me these, aren't they?
• 1:14:28
  So yeah, I'm not sure if they are listening.
• 1:14:30
  And Shadows somewhere, but cheers for taking the piss Army
• 1:14:33
  lads. So to bring the show home, I
• 1:14:37
  think we have a couple of listener questions come through
• 1:14:39
  this week. Not many because I only put it
• 1:14:42
  out earlier. But Connor Dillon asks.
• 1:14:45
  Need to know that boys thought this has been going around, to
• 1:14:48
  be fair on 100 men versus 1 guerrilla at the base.
• 1:14:51
  I don't know if you have seen that on social media this week,
• 1:14:54
  but it's kind of been a little bit viral.
• 1:14:56
  Who would win in a fight? We, I don't think we stand a
• 1:14:58
  chance. Let's be real.
• 1:15:00
  We don't. We don't have anything.
• 1:15:01
  We have no weapons, just our fists.
• 1:15:03
  Is it? Yeah, yeah, just pure fight.
• 1:15:05
  Ah, no, no chance. You don't reckon if you just
• 1:15:07
  like everyone, attacked it once and you just poked his eyes out?
• 1:15:12
  No, because like I feeling the gorilla would like RIP the 1st 5
• 1:15:17
  people and then people would get scared and then you have that
• 1:15:20
  like Sansado in your head and like yeah I don't think we'd
• 1:15:23
  win. You know some people like proper
• 1:15:25
  and joy going deep into the thought about these don't they?
• 1:15:28
  Seeing on on Twitter, this guy was like you would need to split
• 1:15:31
  the group of humans into groups of 10 and each the 1st 50 would
• 1:15:37
  storm and outer protective layer and then in a protective layer.
• 1:15:41
  And these are the time with attack from these angles and
• 1:15:44
  that. But I just don't have the
• 1:15:46
  capacity to entertain it. And I just like a bit like you
• 1:15:49
  and be like now the gorilla would win, but the men men will
• 1:15:52
  probably start fighting amongst each other before they learn to
• 1:15:55
  fight with the gorilla anyway. I've seen this AI generated
• 1:15:58
  thing where it's like 100,000 men against like 10,000 gorillas
• 1:16:02
  and I could win and the gorillas won as well so.
• 1:16:06
  Predictive modelling. So yeah.
• 1:16:10
  Guerrillas will win. There's a I'd win Asia, those
• 1:16:12
  were telling me I'd run like 224 though as well.
• 1:16:19
  Yeah, share that video as well. Yeah, Nicholas, the Norwegian
• 1:16:24
  guy who runs in Perth with front runner I think, or he kind of
• 1:16:28
  flats in between a few training groups.
• 1:16:32
  We must have missed this one previously, she says.
• 1:16:34
  I'll try again. Dean is the Mizuno super half
• 1:16:37
  tight still as super as the first time use Ah.
• 1:16:40
  Well not in terms of pay days, but I still write them.
• 1:16:44
  I think they're great so would recommend them.
• 1:16:47
  Whether or not they're 2.4% more efficient than a regular half
• 1:16:50
  tight, I'm not sure. That just could be good
• 1:16:52
  marketing. But I do love the tights.
• 1:16:54
  Thanks Dean. And then lastly my mum sends a
• 1:16:57
  question saying I was going to bring this up but I didn't want
• 1:17:00
  to take us off topic too much but seeing as we didn't have
• 1:17:05
  much running training talk to talk about, I was going to say
• 1:17:08
  so how do we feel guys about Liverpool being crowned Premier
• 1:17:12
  League champions for a 20th time?
• 1:17:16
  Sick of sick of it. And now that I'm over here it's
• 1:17:18
  actually relevant again. Which is not fun.
• 1:17:21
  I'd say Josh Ty is up in arms with Burnley.
• 1:17:24
  Huh. Burnley went up.
• 1:17:25
  Did they, did they secure the automatics?
• 1:17:27
  Did they? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:28
  So no, I'm sick of Liverpool. Shout out the Burnley massive,
• 1:17:32
  but yeah, well, did you see as well?
• 1:17:34
  Trent's confirmed he's leaving. We won't talk about football too
• 1:17:37
  much, but on the subject of Liverpool.
• 1:17:39
  Did not see that, but yeah, he's gone for the money, isn't he?
• 1:17:43
  Sabia Galactico, yeah. Wouldn't mind, Barcelona are
• 1:17:47
  better than them than Real Madrid.
• 1:17:48
  Yeah, some reason they just have that sway though, don't they?
• 1:17:52
  Yeah, then again, Liverpool have lost a few players to Barcelona
• 1:17:55
  in the time anyway. Can't compete with those Spanish
• 1:17:58
  boys. Yeah, but like, to be fair to
• 1:18:00
  him, like he grew up in Liverpool, he won't use
• 1:18:03
  everything or won everything with use.
• 1:18:06
  So it's only fair he can go off and like, have a nice time in
• 1:18:08
  Spain in the sun. Oh, is it?
• 1:18:10
  Yeah. Fair for him, I think the, the,
• 1:18:14
  the controversy is that he's leaving on a three and like he's
• 1:18:17
  ran down his contract and he's worth like £100 million and all
• 1:18:20
  this. But any who talking about being
• 1:18:24
  champions here, I mean I brought that so anyway.
• 1:18:28
  OK, it's the first time in the land.
• 1:18:30
  Are we going to have have some contribution there, Dean, sorry.
• 1:18:33
  No, my my interest in the EPL goes up and down with my
• 1:18:37
  interest in my EPL fantasy team. But I haven't put one in this
• 1:18:40
  year. So I've sort of I'm a bit bit
• 1:18:42
  removed but I do follow the the chat loosely.
• 1:18:45
  Do you do the predictions on the AFL?
• 1:18:48
  The tipping. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:50
  And fantasy, fantasy AFL, the in fantasy AFL, you get these
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  coveted hats. It gives you a rank if you
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  finish inside the top 100. Let's say there's, I don't know,
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  fifty 100,000 teams entered the top 100, all get a hat.
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  And I think in the last three years I've finished around in
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  the top 400, but not quite in the top 100.
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  So I'm desperately trying to win a bloody hat so I can stop
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  playing this game and stop wasting my weekends following
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  teams that I don't even support just to see what these random
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  players do. So anyway, it's one of my vices.
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  The Eagles to win this year. No, no better than to tip the
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  Eagles. The Eagles are shit ass so.
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  That's the way you win. Just pick everyone who's against
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  the Eagles to win. Pretty much.
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  Pretty much. All right, so I think that is
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  those done boys. Thanks very much for your time.
• 1:19:39
  Thanks listeners for putting us in your ears for another hour
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  and a half and we will be back next week for not, hopefully not
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  more of the same. Hopefully some actual training
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  next week. Won't be on my.
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  Cheers guys. Good luck guys.
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  See you mate.