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Jonathan Hall - Carnegie Center for Literacy & Learning · Look Who's Talking

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You are listening to Look Who's Talking. I am
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Cameron Minter. I am your co -host and our wonderful
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Head Start director, Jessica Coffie is our host.
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What's going on, Jessica? Hey, y 'all. What is
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going on, going on? Not much. It's a rainy day
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today. Yeah, it's a rainy, rainy day. I'm glad
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we are not under ice and snow. Say that. Because
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some folks are, right? I heard that it's coming
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back. Yeah, next week. Knuckle up, buttercup.
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No, I am over any kind of winter precipitation.
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Yeah, my granddaughter was like, so is it spring?
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No, it is not. It is not. Hey, we had a... Beautiful
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day. Oh, it was fantastic. It was fantastic.
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Oh, my goodness. I was like, oh, is this what
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happens? Yeah, how about it? It was nice. You
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know, I know I'm going to regret this, but I
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just happened to see that one of your favorite
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people won something. Beyonce! Yes, absolutely.
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She finally won. Album of the Year at the Grammys.
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Isn't that crazy? Yeah. That they didn't respect
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her the years before? She had to cross fields
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to get that recognition. How about that? I love
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her. But it was so funny because I remember,
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and those that follow the show, when we talked
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about Beyonce doing a country album. Yeah. Yeah,
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you know, at first it was like, we're not even
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going to call it country, blah, blah, blah. And
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now she done got album of the year. I'm just
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saying, put some respect on her. What? Come on,
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come on. However, did you watch the Grammys?
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No, I don't do award shows. Cameron. I don't.
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I try to minimize my frustrations. And I have
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enough frustrations going on in my life right
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now. So when I see something, I'm thinking, oh,
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there's no way this can't happen. Yeah. Okay.
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So this is what happens when, like, Grammys come
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on, award shows, all of that. So me and my friends.
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We have it settled that we are texting the entire
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night and going to say, look at her dress. It
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is so ugly. Why did she do that? Wow. So you
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watch all the award shows? Yeah. See, I'm so
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not interested that I don't even know the hierarchy
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of these award shows. Is it a Grammy over an
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Oscar, over an Emmy? Well, first of all, the
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Grammys are about music. The Oscars are about
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film. That's a start. That's a start. But you
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know what? I love the Grammys, but the Oscars,
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I mean. I don't watch a lot of movies. You're
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like, okay, so, you know, it's Super Bowl. Well,
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no, I can't do this with you because you do like
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sports and you do like football. But most people
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watch the Super Bowl for what? The commercials
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and the halftime. Commercial, yeah. Really? Nothing
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to do with the game. No, it's not even that.
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We watch the Super Bowl for the snacks. So you
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have a reason to snack? Yes. Super Bowl is the.
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Reason to have a smorgasbord of finger foods.
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I'm done. I am done with you. Do you not do that?
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Do you watch the Super Bowl? Yeah, kind of. Do
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you have finger food Super Bowl Sunday? Yes.
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Exactly. I do. Exactly. But that's not like,
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you know, it's not like I go playing and like,
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oh, yeah, I'm going to get the wings and whatever's
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in the house. Yes, but Super Bowl Sunday, you
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always have finger foods. You don't cook like
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a Sunday meal. Okay. After church. No after church.
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We going to get like Luther hungry, Luther full,
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where you got to take a nap after. No, you don't
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do that. You eat finger foods. You got to have
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some Rotel. Who knew there was some etiquette?
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Some wings, some meatballs. All of that. So you're
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playing in it. See, I'm not. Whatever's in the
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house. Okay, yeah. No. You have to go to the
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grocery store, Cam. You have to go into Kroger
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and look at all the displays of football fields
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and goals. Go tempt yourself. And get your soda.
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Now, that's one day you can drink soda, too.
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Super Bowl Sunday, you can have a pop. Well,
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I'm glad you have some standards and some. Yes.
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I mean, is it not almost like a holiday? It is.
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I mean, but they don't let you celebrate because
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when you have to watch the Super Bowl and go
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to bed late, they still expect you at work next
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morning. Well, you have a point. Yeah. And, you
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know, college football is the same way. But anyway,
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we digress. We digress. What? I don't even know
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what we were talking about because you started
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talking about Super Bowl. I know. It just took
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you off, didn't it? It did. Well, we're going
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to bring you back. Okay. Because it is now time
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for a Coffie Break. okay everyone so for today's
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Coffie Break i want to say don't be pushed around
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by fears in your mind be led by the dreams in
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your heart what you got to say about that that's
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good because you know what sometimes we allow
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fear to paralyze us from doing anything anything
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anything even like The mind is a terrible thing
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to waste. It is. And then when you finally decide
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to conquer that fear, it wasn't nearly as bad
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as your mind made it. So, yeah, I love that.
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Don't let your fear stop you. Yeah. Can you think
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about the last time you were fearful about something?
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We won't go there, but, yes, I have it clearly
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in mind. It was probably last week. It was probably
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last week. Never mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But,
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you know, fear is. It's a terrible drug. Yeah,
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yeah. Yeah, how about that? Which, you know what,
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brings me to our guest today. Yes, yes, yes,
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yes, yes, yes. I am. I was fearful to take tests
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and we just had a great conversation about test
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taking and my whole fear about that. But today
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on the podcast, we have one who has just become
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one of our newest policy council members. Yeah,
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he's on our policy council and the director of
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youth program and volunteers for the Carnegie
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Center. We have Jonathan Hall. Hey! I love it.
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Welcome, Jonathan. Yeah, how about that? That's
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wonderful. You got set up to be on the council,
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didn't you? I did. I did. He got set up. I don't
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think he knew what he was getting into. No, he
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didn't. i'm about to find out yeah welcome to
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the show we're so glad to have you here yes i'm
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so happy to be here thank you all for for hosting
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and i have to say y 'all's banter is on point
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i was like yes y 'all made that look so easy
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oh it's just talking it's just talking with a
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friend so yeah it comes a little easy but if
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you put us on subject we might not do so well
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don't don't listen to the first couple of podcasts
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right right right oh okay you've got you've worked
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into this kind of uh chemistry i see i see it's
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a process so what we want to talk about today
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is all about you know what the carnegie center
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does and you know they have a big emphasis on
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literacy as well so if you could just take us
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give us a brief history of the carnegie center
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and yeah yeah absolutely so the carnegie center
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is was was founded in 1992 but the building that
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we occupy has been a fixture in lexington it
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was built in 1902 and was for many many many
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years the main public library Oh, I didn't know
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that. So for most folks, when they see this building,
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they think of the library. It's prime real estate.
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Yes, indeed. It is right there between 2nd and
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3rd, across from Transy. A lot of Transylvania
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students come and tutor with us. We'll talk about
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that. It's a beautiful location next to Gratz
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Park. I'm really lucky to call that an office.
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Go in there. Oh, my goodness. I do not take that.
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It is prime real estate. It is. It is. It's a
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beautiful place. So, yeah, we took over. The
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Carnegie did in the early 90s. But when the library
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moved over to their main branch that they occupy
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now, right? Yeah. And they were looking for something
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to do with it. They were saying, well, should
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we? I mean, as was relayed to me, they were thinking,
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well, should we sell it to maybe a law firm?
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Should we knock it down? Could you use some more
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parking? I think that was pitched. And some organizers
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came together, and they really wanted to keep
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that idea of the library and literacy. as a part
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of that building and uh that's and so that formed
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the carnegie center for literacy and learning
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and we were able to keep it running and keep
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the building intact and and that's part of our
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mission is just to kind of be good stewards of
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that space right right how long have you been
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there so me i've only been there about a year
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and a half and but it's been absolutely an incredible
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uh journey and it's an it's a really cool we
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were talking earlier too about how I'm always
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amazed how many people that Carnegie Center has
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touched, you know, how many lives it's touched
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because I'll run into just about anybody and
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say, oh, well, my son or daughter got tutoring
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there. Or a lot of times it's like I got married
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there. A lot of people don't know. We actually
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rent it out. And so we do rentals as well. Yeah,
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it's just. It's a cool place. So can you tell
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us about what you do at the Connerty Center?
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Yeah, absolutely. So I'm the director of youth
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programming. So what that means is we're developing
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classes and also outreach opportunities. So one
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of those things I'm particularly proud of is
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our work with the Community Action Council and
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getting into the Head Start program. So I really
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believe that literacy starts, obviously, right
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there from zero to five with excitement. and
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joy of getting a book and getting and realizing
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because nobody wants to say well you have to
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read because you're going to make you know 25
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more annual income when you get to certain no
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that's not going to happen right like that does
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not motivate any child but what does motivate
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a kid is getting caught up in a story that they
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love and they see themselves in yes right yeah
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yeah that could be me uh that could be me as
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the main character and so once kids get that
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hook they're gonna want to read oh they'll do
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the work right i can't wait to have you come
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read to our children and i want to be in the
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classroom when you do it i do i do get a little
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silly with it yes yes yeah because like you have
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to you got yeah because there's a difference
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when when you don't They're looking at you like,
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mm -mm. Oh, you don't want to be in those rooms.
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They'll turn on you. It's like a comedy set gone
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wrong. Exactly. Do not, yeah, you do not want
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to die on stage there. So I definitely, you got
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to go all out. But you just said something that
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I never thought about before, but it should be
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exciting. You know, and I thought, that made
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me think back to when I was younger. Like, I
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hated reading. I know what you're going to go
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to. I hated reading. Well, I felt like. One of
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the characters that I could, you know, felt like,
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oh, I can see myself in it was the Bears Team
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Bears. Okay. Or Ramona the Brave. Yeah, okay.
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So it was like you are taking on an adventure.
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Yes. But, you know, reading for me has to be
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exciting for me to really get into it. Absolutely.
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One thing that I'm trying to do, you know, with
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my grandkids is not make reading punishment.
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So when I was growing up, you know, yeah, when
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I was growing up, oh, you got bad grades, blah,
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blah, blah. No TV for you. Go read a book. Yes.
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And so it was presented to me as punishment,
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not something fun, not something that I could
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get out of. You know what I'm saying? And so
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I don't want us, you know, with my grandkids,
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you know. You spending too much time on the thing.
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Well, let's talk about it when she's not in trouble
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instead of just when she's in trouble. Because
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when we when we wrap it up in punishment, then,
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you know, it's failing from the jump. Oh, yeah.
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They'll begin. They'll internalize that message.
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Right. They'll understand and see this thing
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as a as a chore, as a punishment. But when you
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see kids so and, you know, because we were talking
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about this too, it's like I love acting and getting
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out in front of folks. So I have brought in some
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actors. and fellow performers to come into story
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times. Oh, wow. To really kind of like up the
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story time. Oh, wow. So we want it to be fun,
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high energy. Like when you're in that space,
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like you've got to go. Don't just flip the page.
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Okay, then the bear, steam bear went outside.
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Yeah. You need to, you know, sell it. You have
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gone to a whole nother level. Yeah, we're taking
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it to another level. We got to. So I really love
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it. And I think for then, and then you turn around
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and you go, oh, by the way, you're all getting
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one of these copies. this oh yeah right so then
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we give the we give the students a book and then
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to see them light up then that's when you know
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you did the job right yeah if they light up and
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they go we really get to keep this okay you then
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then mission accomplished right if they go oh
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well thanks for the book and maybe we need to
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work on it right right so but but we're seeing
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that You know, we're seeing it and the joy and
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the space and the happiness is part of it. And
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then you associate that that process, the reading
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with the happiness and the fun. Right. Right.
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That's that's the plan. That's awesome. You know,
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we're going to talk a little bit more after the
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That's C -O -M -M action dot O -R -G. been talking
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about you know just the excitement of reading
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books um but but what i want to get into next
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is like what are some of the things that you
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all offer children who are zero to five maybe
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their parents like what are some of the things
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that um we can reach out to you all on and you
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know absolutely absolutely so in addition to
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the um the outreach that I do in the community.
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So we go out and meet the students where they
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are. They can actually come to us as well. So
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as we said, beautiful location, beautiful building,
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come visit us. So we have classes. One of the
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things that we do is we offer classes throughout
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the year and you can sign up really a rolling
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schedule. There's always new classes coming out.
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So always check our website. But an example of
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that is we've got zero to three toddler book
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clubs. We've got three - to five -year -old and
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grown -up book clubs, so family book clubs that
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typically take place on Saturdays and are wonderful.
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You get a book. You get a story time. Again,
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that same kind of like we want high energy, a
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lot of fun. Come on out. We have courses for
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students who are looking to, or kids who are
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just looking to maybe grow their skills in writing
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and developing their own stories because a lot
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of Carnegie is all about. helping authors at
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any age so we want to help students start telling
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their story yeah and we've got great classes
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like um like that we've also i mean but we've
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got a wide range so check out the catalog lots
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of great stuff we have stuff for adults as well
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One thing that I will kind of pitch to your listening
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audience that I love, a program that I'm a huge
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fan of that we do, it's called Family Fun and
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Learning Night. And it takes place on bi -monthly.
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The bi -monthly that's every other month, you
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know, that's a little tricky. But it is a really,
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really fun time where we invite families in.
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We take care of everything. So, you know, you're
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thinking, well, it's the events from 5 to 7.
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What am I going to do for dinner? Well, we have
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food. We've got a speaker usually that's going
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to be a community member telling them about what
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kind of great things they're doing in the community.
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And then we have activities, games, and everybody
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gets a free book. Oh, yeah. Free registration.
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All right. And it's a whole family thing. We
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want the grandparents. We want everybody to just
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kind of learn together. Right. So keep an eye
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out for those events. We this is the 250th anniversary
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of Lexington. So the 250 Lex. Right. And so we
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have a couple of things planned for that that
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are going to be big. So, yeah, keep an eye out.
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It's going to be fun. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds
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great. Yeah. I'm excited about some of the things
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that you are offering for those kiddos zero to
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five, because it with that age range, you know,
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most. Families are like, well, they can't read,
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but if you read to them, that is, and I think
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about, I think this is therapy for me because
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my parents are great. My parents are great. However,
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I'm like, well, maybe I didn't like reading because
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they never read to me, but they expected me to
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read. Well, yeah, and you model it, right? So
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if mom, dad, grandma, grandpa, guardian, whoever
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is there as the adult modeling that behavior
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to say, oh, this is great. Oh, I love this. That
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kid is going to see that, right? And if the parents
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say, oh, well, all right, book, I don't know.
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like books and they're gonna see that too so
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exactly but if you go with them and you have
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fun with them and you make it you know make it
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a moment that they're gonna remember um well
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it will it'll file back right it'll file into
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their and uh subconscious but i think it's huge
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it's such a huge impact and just connecting that's
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that's my whole passion is just connecting those
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experiences with fun and books and learning and
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reading because For whatever reason, I've always
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loved learning. I don't know. But I think if
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you were to kind of dig down, if we wanted to
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do therapy today, I think it goes back to my
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parents encouraging that, you know, like, let's
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go. Like, I mean, I probably, you know, they
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got me books and they kept me. See, and my parents
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did not read to me. They got me books and I was
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like, yeah, no, I'm not doing it. You're not
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doing it. Why should I? However, they would say,
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go outside and play. And I had a great time.
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Coming up with stuff. So like creating. Yeah.
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So being innovative. So like I have a lot of
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that. I love like making my own stories. And
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like now Cameron probably get I probably get
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on Cameron's nerves because I'm always like,
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let's do this idea. Yes. I think our kids deserve
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to see an elephant in our center. Like, that's,
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I want to go big or go home. Yeah. You know?
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I love that. Y 'all on the same, you know. We
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are on the same wavelength. Yeah. You're like,
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hey, let's talk about the elephant in the room.
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And you're like, like a metaphor? You're like,
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no, literally. Exactly. I want to talk about
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the elephant in the room. Wow. And I want it
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to be in the room. Right. So with some of the
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activity, what is one of the activities that
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you, that really stuck with your heart that,
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you know, that you all did at the Carnegie Center?
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We had just recently a family fun and learning
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night in celebration. We have it annually with
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celebration of Martin Luther King Day. And we
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had Jim Embry, who is a local legend for his
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work with sustainability. And we brought in the
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Black Farmers Association to an alfalfa with
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Tiffany Belfield -Elamine. And they catered the
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whole thing. And it was just absolutely beautiful.
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We had lots of great fans. Come out and just
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learn about. what it means to grow food locally
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and get it to a table and what that looks like.
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And it was really special. It was really beautiful.
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And so things like that to be able to put together
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and give not only kids but also parents. Parents
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came up to me and were like, I didn't know this
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was going on here locally. And it was really
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special. But I love those events. We recently
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also had the Youth Poet Laureate. competition
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that just wrapped up last week where we accept
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applications from any 13 to 18 -year -old teen
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who is a poet. They submit three poems. Our panel
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of professional pro -poets, one of them, Katarina
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Stojkova, they judge that. Then they come out
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and we had five finalists read their poetry at
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the Carnegie. and we just named our Lexington
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Poet Laureate for the year. Oh, wow. Yeah, so
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Eva Alcaraz -Monji. All right. She is amazing.
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You're going to hear more from her. So things
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like that I get to do and just really elevate
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other folks' voices, letting them tell their
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story. Like you said, creativity. Yeah. And just
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giving an outlet for that has been really special.
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That is awesome. So we talked during the break
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that Carnegie doesn't just do one thing. What
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are some other things that we haven't talked
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about? Sure. Carnegie might be a great resource.
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Yeah, we're a great resource for so many things.
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And a couple of things that we. We do outside
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of my purview. So I'm trying to be a youth guy.
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So I kind of handle that. But we do have a tutoring
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service that is very, very inexpensive. So it
24:33
is a waitlist sort of thing. So you want to put
24:35
your name in for that. I would absolutely do
24:37
that. If you want to volunteer, come out. It's
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the best way to volunteer. It's one hour of your
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week. What do volunteers do? They come in and
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help tutor the kids. And we give you kind of
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a little bit of a structure and just kind of
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give you some tools to be able to make an impact.
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But I'm telling you, that one hour a week that
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you invest in a young person, you will watch
24:56
them develop, watch them grow. And it is, from
25:00
personal experience, it's just very, very...
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such an impactful hour of your week. And then
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we also have for adults, we, a huge part of what
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people know Carnegie for is our authors support.
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So we have tons of classes. If you want to, if
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you've got a book in you and you're like, I got
25:18
to get it out, you know, then we help you do
25:22
that process from the idea generation to crafting
25:26
it, to publishing it, all of that. Oh, wow. If
25:29
you think about Lexington, you think about Kentucky
25:31
and you think, about generally where we might
25:35
rank in terms of literacy, you might not think
25:38
that we crank out authors, right? But we do.
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I mean, this state has an incredible amount of
25:44
authors that are nationally, internationally
25:48
known. I mean, just think from, you know, bell
25:51
hooks and your hundreds of thousands, all those
25:54
kinds of folks. But you just, we, I love that
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Lexington is kind of a great focal point for
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folks that they can. Get their work out there.
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Yeah. Yeah. That is awesome. I didn't know that.
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That might be how I reach my million. Come on.
26:09
Here we go. Become an author. There you go. This
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is so therapeutic for you. I'm so glad you turned
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the show into your needs. I'm happy to help.
26:20
That's awesome. Now, we've talked all this about
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Carnegie. What is some contact information? When
26:27
are you all open? Yeah, all the good stuff. So
26:33
the best way to, I think, reach out, reach out
26:37
to me. I mean, I would love to get, if some of
26:39
these programs interest you, jhall at carnegiecenterlex
26:43
.com. And you can email me there. The other thing
26:47
is we generally are open Monday to Friday, 1030
26:50
to 730. You can stop in, hang out the front desk.
26:53
We've got catalogs. We'll walk you through our
26:55
programs. Anything, any questions, always feel
26:57
free to stop in. We will be, we are open select
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Saturdays for programming. Like I mentioned,
27:02
story times, things like that. And, yeah, I think
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that's the best way you can give us a call. I
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don't have the number on me right now, but go
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ahead to CarnegieCenterLex .org and hit us right
27:14
there. You see his radio voice came in there?
27:16
Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Oh, don't do that around
27:19
us. You'll be on more shows. I don't know what
27:23
you're talking about. I don't have a radio voice.
27:27
No doubt, no doubt. At all. But we also talked
27:31
about you singing. Well, no, I don't know. Oh,
27:35
no, it's too late now. More of a, I don't usually
27:40
do musicals. It's more straight plays, but if
27:43
you twist my arm. Oh, well, we won't have to.
27:48
I'm having you on. It's really fun. We want everyone
27:51
to know about the Carnegie Center. Carnegie,
27:55
I don't know what I said. Carnegie Center? Mm
27:58
-hmm. You've got some information there. You've
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got some help. Jonathan will. Jonathan, tell
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our people what's the word of the day. Lugubrious.
28:09
Our word of the day is lugubrious. Wow. Okay.
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See, y 'all play too much. I love that word.
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All right. You have been listening to Look Who's
28:24
Talking. Thank you, Jonathan, for being on the
28:26
show. Thank you so much for having me. Y 'all
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