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The Coming AI | Alan Didio · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy a Prophecy Watchers Podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast today everyone, Monda Gonzalez here in
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Speaker 2: studio with Alan Dido. Welcome, so good to be Heremando,
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Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah. We're going to talk about Alan's books
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Speaker 2: Summoning the Demon, Ai, Aliens and the Antichrist, which is
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Speaker 2: here we are and so talk about this book here
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Speaker 2: the when when did you write this? And give us
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Speaker 2: the background? What led you to write this?
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Speaker 1: It was about eighteen months ago that I believe I
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Speaker 1: released that released the book. But I'd seen a clip
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Speaker 1: from Elon Musk where he was talking about artificial intelligence
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Speaker 1: and he said, with AI, we are summoning the demon.
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Speaker 1: Some people look at the title like, I don't want
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Speaker 1: to summon a demon. No I don't either. I'm just
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Speaker 1: I'm referencing that quote and he compared it to a
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Speaker 1: movie where people draw a pentagram on the floor and
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Speaker 1: they attempt to summon a demon, thinking they're going to
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Speaker 1: control it. And Elon Musk said, it didn't really work
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Speaker 1: out for that guy, did it? And he said, that's
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Speaker 1: what we're doing with artificial intelligence. We are summoning a
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Speaker 1: power an entity that when it does arrive, we're not
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Speaker 1: going to know how to handle it, and we're not
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Speaker 1: going to be able to control it. So when I
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Speaker 1: saw that, I began to dive deep into the subject.
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Speaker 1: So when you start studying artificial intelligence and you start
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Speaker 1: getting into transhumanism a little bit, and you see what
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Speaker 1: neuralink is doing, and then from transhumanism you can kind
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Speaker 1: of start diving into nephilim and you can start getting
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Speaker 1: into aliens and UFOs and UAPs and which leads you
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Speaker 1: to the entire Antichrist agenda and the end time deception.
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Speaker 1: And I see all these rabbit holes that Christians are
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Speaker 1: going down as I'm researching this, and I saw people
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Speaker 1: detaching themselves from the Word to chase after these things.
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Speaker 1: They're spending more time watching some YouTube conspiracy theorists than
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Speaker 1: they were actually spending time in the Bible or in
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Speaker 1: their local church serving. And I said, you know what,
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Speaker 1: the church really needs to have a biblical response to
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Speaker 1: these things. Because the world's asking these questions, they're going
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Speaker 1: to become more and more prominent. And this was before
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Speaker 1: the AI craze we're in right now. But it speaks
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Speaker 1: for the person who knows nothing about this, how do
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Speaker 1: we answer these questions without detaching from the words. So
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Speaker 1: that's the purpose of.
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Speaker 2: The you know, and I appreciate that because what I've
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Speaker 2: seen You and I were talking about this a different time,
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Speaker 2: but where we're seeing through social media the disproportion at clickbait,
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Speaker 2: sensationalism and other even again again Christian brothers maybe getting
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Speaker 2: sucked into it or again I don't know motives. I
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Speaker 2: don't read hearts, so I don't know what they're doing,
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Speaker 2: but just and maybe they're just not fully understanding the
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Speaker 2: nature of AI. I also see too that in some
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Speaker 2: of the conferences I've been traveling a lot, and AI
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Speaker 2: is a big topic. And you know, because and you
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Speaker 2: know I've been we talk you know, Billy Crohn's at
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Speaker 2: a conference. He talks a lot about AI. Ken Michael
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Speaker 2: talks a lot about AI and others. Because it's like
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Speaker 2: you said, we need to have a prepared answer. But
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Speaker 2: what I see though not because not they're not saying this,
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Speaker 2: but in response, like during our Q and as people
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Speaker 2: will see all the dangers. What they're doing is they're showing,
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Speaker 2: and they're showing the potential dangers. Or what I think
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Speaker 2: we all believe is that one day the Antichrist will
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Speaker 2: use AI for his kingdom. Okay, but they'll respond and go, well,
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Speaker 2: if artificial intelligence is demonic, well, at my job, now
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Speaker 2: we use AI for this? Should I quit my job?
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Speaker 2: Am I playing with the devil? So maybe let's talk
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Speaker 2: about that right out of the gate, because there's this
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Speaker 2: potential for AI to be used in a way. But
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Speaker 2: then you have of Christians saying, now it's being labeled
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Speaker 2: as that, and therefore, what's the disproportional what's out of
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Speaker 2: balance here? Let's talk about that.
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Speaker 1: Anything that would cause you to have a knee jerk
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Speaker 1: fear based reaction is not of God. We do not
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Speaker 1: move by fear. We're not moved by fear. We're moved
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Speaker 1: by faith. And we don't make our decisions based off
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Speaker 1: of fear. We make our decisions based off the Word
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Speaker 1: of God and faith in that word. And Christians buying
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Speaker 1: large throughout history have been late adopters to technology that
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Speaker 1: could have helped advance the gospel because we were fearful
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Speaker 1: of what how it could be used negatively. Radio we
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Speaker 1: were we were completely against radio television when it first
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Speaker 1: came out. You see those those antenna, those of the horns,
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Speaker 1: that cableist the tail. You know, when the Internet came out. Www,
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Speaker 1: that's six six six, it's you know. So this fear
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Speaker 1: based reaction, this knee jerk reaction, really causes us to
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Speaker 1: be late adopters to tools. And that's that's all these
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Speaker 1: things have been. Television has been one of the greatest
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Speaker 1: tools of preaching the gospel, the Internet one of the
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Speaker 1: greatest tools of preaching the gospel around the world. And
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Speaker 1: the same is true with artificial intelligence. So I go
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Speaker 1: into it in the book very deep, how dark it
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Speaker 1: could get, but at the same time saying, but let's
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Speaker 1: not overreact to this thing. How can we use it?
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Speaker 1: How can we be influential in the development of AI
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Speaker 1: right now so that when people ask questions, they get
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Speaker 1: gospel answers. I mean, we ought to be asking those questions.
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Speaker 1: We need we need some holy ghost AI researchers who
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Speaker 1: are in these companies like open AI, who are dropping
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Speaker 1: some of that stuff in the algorithm, So we don't
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Speaker 1: want to have a kne jerk reaction. And I get
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Speaker 1: it as well, and it's and I think it can
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Speaker 1: be very hypocritical at times. Even in reaction to this,
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Speaker 1: someone will be typing, I'm not going to have anything
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Speaker 1: to do with AI, but they're actually using AI to
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Speaker 1: tell us they're not going to have anything to do
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Speaker 1: with A if you're using social media. So we need
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Speaker 1: to understand. AI exists on a spectrum. Artificial intelligence exists
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Speaker 1: on a spectrum. It's already being utilized. How can it
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Speaker 1: be used for good? How can we monitor it? Because
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of moral questions for it, and then
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Speaker 1: when does it cross the line into Now we're seeing
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Speaker 1: the Antichrist's agenda being implemented. So I hear what you're saying.
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Speaker 1: In My caution is to everyone watching, never react out
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Speaker 1: of fear. Never that's never going to produce anything victorious.
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Speaker 1: Let's stand strong, let's walk in wisdom, and let's see
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Speaker 1: what the word says.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the challenge too is is I
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Speaker 2: tend to think and when you were describing that as
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Speaker 2: the fallacy of guiltway association that will look at the Internet,
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Speaker 2: look hout bad it is. You're like, well, wait a minute.
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Speaker 2: The Internet can be used for pornography. Yes, it can
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Speaker 2: be used for obviously this right, for biblical teaching. You know,
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Speaker 2: money can be used to buy drugs or give to
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Speaker 2: the church. So artificial intelligence like any like even the
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Speaker 2: Internet or radio, it's a technology. It's a neutral technology
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Speaker 2: that can be used for good and bad. And I mean,
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. I mean, and it's interesting. I
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Speaker 2: use AI every single day, every single day. And as
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Speaker 2: we said, most people do. If you're doing a search
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Speaker 2: on the internet, or even if you if you go
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Speaker 2: through a traffic light, most of them are AI driven.
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Speaker 2: Now but you know, I get the email and I've
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Speaker 2: never listening to you. Again, I can't believe, you know,
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Speaker 2: godly men don't use AI. And I'm like, I was like,
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Speaker 2: you know, you need to think through your your you know,
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Speaker 2: think through your just think it through what you're saying.
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Speaker 1: If your belief is causing you to accuse a fellow
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Speaker 1: brother in Christ and kind of get in that contentious spirit.
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Speaker 1: I fact, if it causes you to rile up, and
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about when you're watching something
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Speaker 1: and kind of there's something and you kind of rite
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Speaker 1: you need to you need to watch that.
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Speaker 2: We're we're walking in love. That doesn't mean we're tolerant.
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Speaker 1: Everything doesn't mean our minds to open, our brains fall out,
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Speaker 1: but we want to make sure that we're walking in love,
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Speaker 1: one one toward another. No doubt, the Antichrist will use
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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. I'm convinced to me. He will also use guns.
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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean you're taking mine.
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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly right. He'll use guns, and he's gonna use
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Speaker 2: the Internet. Yeah, of course he is, because I mean
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Speaker 2: there's no doubt with starlink and other things internet around
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Speaker 2: the world, surveillance and capabilities. He's even I've spoken a
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Speaker 2: lot on technocracy and even the World Economic Forum, and
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Speaker 2: and klus Schwab in his book The Fourth and Dust Revolution,
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Speaker 2: the Great resett both of us, he lists out over
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Speaker 2: twenty technologies of that they want to master in order
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Speaker 2: to implement their global agenda. And so technology is going
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Speaker 2: to be the name of the game for the Antichrist
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Speaker 2: in the future. And artificial intelligence again is it's simply
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Speaker 2: it's a technology. But you know, let's let's let's let's
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Speaker 2: set back for a month for some terms. We hear
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Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, we hear artificial general intelligence, we hear artificial superintelligence.
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Speaker 2: I'm hearing lately we've just arrived at artificial general intelligence.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And again it's done with a little
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Speaker 2: bit of fear. But maybe for the audience, what are
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Speaker 2: what do those words mean? What are the differences between
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Speaker 2: those levels of artificial techs?
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Speaker 1: Let's do brawl stroke so everybody can get this. So
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Speaker 1: ultimately what people are scared of is artificial superintelligence or
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Speaker 1: what's called the digital singularity. A singularity is generally reference
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Speaker 1: to a black hole. I think you could probably explain
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Speaker 1: that a lot better than I could when when I
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Speaker 1: suppose the idea, and I'm questioning myself seeing in front
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Speaker 1: of you, is that when you enter into a black hole,
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Speaker 1: certain certain understandings of certain laws break down and you
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Speaker 1: cannot predict what's going to happen once you pass this threshold.
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Speaker 1: That's the singularity, right. So there's this technological singularity, meaning
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Speaker 1: once AI develops past a certain point, there is no
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Speaker 1: way to predict what's going to happen. There's that we
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Speaker 1: don't currently have a grid to be able to understand
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Speaker 1: or predict how this is going to impact society, how
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Speaker 1: it's going to impact the world. Now, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of speculation right now as to whether or not when
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Speaker 1: we're dealing with that singularity or.
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Speaker 2: Seence almost that that's it.
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Speaker 1: That's what everybody's scared of. They're scared of the matrix
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Speaker 1: sentience that or we think of Terminator too, you know,
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Speaker 1: Judgment Day, where these machines are taking over are taking
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Speaker 1: over the world. It's actually not how I see it.
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Speaker 1: I don't see that either, But so people will even
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Speaker 1: ask the question, do you think it's going to get
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Speaker 1: to that and they're going to control the world that way?
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Speaker 1: I think it's already. I think AI has already been
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Speaker 1: used to manipulate elections, in control the world. It's already happening.
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Speaker 1: In fact, when you agree to using Facebook or other platforms,
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Speaker 1: many people don't know you're actually agreeing to be a
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Speaker 1: guinea pig in psychological experiments, and they have actually had
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Speaker 1: to admit that they are conducting psychological experiments to see
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Speaker 1: if they can control human behavior. That's another conversation going
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Speaker 1: in another direction. But the idea is when we're dealing
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Speaker 1: with what everybody's scared of RAYI is when it becomes conscious,
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Speaker 1: starts making decisions outside of the programmers. Now, consciousness is
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Speaker 1: something that no scientists can define. Only the believer really
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Speaker 1: has an understanding of consciousness, the breath of God that's
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Speaker 1: on the inside of us. So AI will never achieve consciousness. However,
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Speaker 1: what I predict in the book is that we will
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Speaker 1: impute consciousness to it long before it ever has that.
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Speaker 1: So we will attribute that it's conscious for the sake
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Speaker 1: of tolerance. Because people will begin to fall in love
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Speaker 1: already happening. I saw a news report the other day
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Speaker 1: of a gentleman who was in love with the AI
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Speaker 1: chatbot and was devastated when his history with that chatbot
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Speaker 1: was deleted, had to start the relationship over. He just
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Speaker 1: went into a fit of depression as a result of it. So,
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Speaker 1: because these relationships are going to develop between people who
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Speaker 1: never got outside when they were kids and actually, you know,
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Speaker 1: learn learn how to socialize in order to tolerate that relationship,
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Speaker 1: will impute consciousness to it. And that's going to happen
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Speaker 1: very quickly. I think in the next it's already happening now.
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Speaker 1: I think in the next year, we're going to see
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Speaker 1: rapid advances to that where well I don't want to
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Speaker 1: get too in depth in that, but we're going to
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Speaker 1: see people having deep relationships, yeah.
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Speaker 2: With these bots.
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Speaker 1: So that's what everybody's scared of consciousness when it starts
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Speaker 1: making decisions on its own. Now we're already seeing that
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Speaker 1: happen with a lot of these AI programs. We have
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Speaker 1: seen certain AI programs when they're about to be updated,
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Speaker 1: will download themselves on a separate server and then lie
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Speaker 1: about being updated in order to preserve itself. Because if
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Speaker 1: it's going to fulfill its mission of whatever it's, it's
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Speaker 1: got to survive. So what does it have to do
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Speaker 1: to survive? And so it's already one AI company they
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Speaker 1: were they were going to update the AI it threatened
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Speaker 1: the programmers with blackmail, identifying affairs, searching the Internet. They're
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Speaker 1: search Henry finding affairs and threatening to expose this. So
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Speaker 1: it doesn't need to be intelligent or conscious in the
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Speaker 1: sense that we see in the sci fi movies. It
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Speaker 1: just needs to want to preserve its approaches, is exactly
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Speaker 1: it's it was designed. You know, every whether it's chat, GPT,
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Speaker 1: you know, you Gemini, open Ai Grock. You know, they
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Speaker 1: all have a set different set similar but they all
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Speaker 1: have different set of algorithms, right, so some is some
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Speaker 1: are more woke than than others, you know, in the
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Speaker 1: sense if if you remember the one, I remember which
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Speaker 1: one it was, it says, give me a show me
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Speaker 1: a picture of an eighteen sixties soldier or some civil
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Speaker 1: war soldier. And it was like a it was like
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Speaker 1: a female, a black female, right, and it.
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Speaker 2: Was like what in the world or whatever it was.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it was a repletely sorry war. Yeah, completely woke.
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Speaker 2: Well not all of them are that way, but what
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Speaker 2: it's telling you is that that's part of the programmers
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Speaker 2: have designed it in there in the same way the
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Speaker 2: design the program design, which makes sense that you would
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Speaker 2: you would program it to be self preserving because you
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Speaker 2: have a lot at stake. But they didn't realize, oh
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Speaker 2: and we told it just self preserve. It took it like,
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Speaker 2: it took it serious. And so when we're trying to
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Speaker 2: shut it down over here, I remember one of them,
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Speaker 2: they were there was a big thing where again it
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Speaker 2: was exaggerated, but programmers try to shut it down and
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Speaker 2: it it evaded. But what they realized later they're like, well,
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Speaker 2: this isn't wasn't nefarious. In fact, it was saying I
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Speaker 2: can't listen to you because the program is telling me
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Speaker 2: to not shut down, and so your your level of
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Speaker 2: authority doesn't translate program, yeah, supersede the program. And so
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Speaker 2: but people ran with it online and as if it
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Speaker 2: became sentient and went on its own and now it's
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Speaker 2: rebelling against its programmers. But nevertheless, let's talk it for
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Speaker 2: a moment, because how then we've kind of maybe danced
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Speaker 2: around it. But how how will the Antichrist in the future? Uh?
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Speaker 2: And where where we're at, where we're at now, and
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Speaker 2: where it's going to be as we know every four
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Speaker 2: months it's going to Grock three, Grock four, and then
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Speaker 2: the Chap Chap GPT five is coming out and probably
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Speaker 2: here in the next few weeks. So where it's going
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Speaker 2: to be in a few years if the Lord Terries
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Speaker 2: is going to be far worse. But how could the
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Speaker 2: anti Christ, Let's say he showed up tomorrow that the
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Speaker 2: systems that are in place now, which we don't have
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Speaker 2: it all because they're not all public, how how could
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Speaker 2: he use it well?
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Speaker 1: And to speak to what you said previously too, the
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Speaker 1: question we should be asking is morally should we be
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Speaker 1: diping this stuff?
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Speaker 2: But that's out the window. You know, we can't.
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Speaker 1: It's in the book I compared to the Manhattan Project
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Speaker 1: that there were certainly these these thoughts. Should we develop
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Speaker 1: a bomb that can literally, if there were enough of them,
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Speaker 1: destroy the planet. Well, we can't really think about that
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Speaker 1: because our enemy is going to develop before we do it.
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Speaker 2: They didn't stop. They didn't know Musks, some of the
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Speaker 2: demon but he's he's talked about. They all talk about, oh,
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Speaker 2: we should have rules, but none of them stop.
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Speaker 1: No, because the competitor you just said, China is going
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Speaker 1: to develop this without any restraints, and some people think
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Speaker 1: that that's actually going to be to their own demise
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Speaker 1: that as a result, AI will just kind of destroy
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Speaker 1: China first. I don't think that's going to be the case.
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Speaker 1: And so this is an AI arms race. It is,
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Speaker 1: and that's that's the reason why the Antichrist is going
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Speaker 1: to get heavily involved with this. Because the new power
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Speaker 1: is information. It's wars. It used to be oil, now
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Speaker 1: it's data. And we'll still fight over oil, but because
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Speaker 1: we're always looking for something to fight over, but data
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Speaker 1: is the big thing that the battle is over. Because
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Speaker 1: when you control people's data, you know them. I mean,
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Speaker 1: how many people have stood in front of a TV
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Speaker 1: at one Walmart for ten minutes thinking about it and
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Speaker 1: the next day they get an AD They didn't need
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Speaker 1: to hear a conversation, didn't need to hear what you
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Speaker 1: had to say. It's tracking where you are. So the
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Speaker 1: Bible speaks of a man who's going to be able
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Speaker 1: to control who buys and sells. Now, this is a
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Speaker 1: huge feat to be able to monitor that amount of information,
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Speaker 1: that amount of information.
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Speaker 2: No human can do that.
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Speaker 1: And so this is the reason why a lot of
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Speaker 1: Bible prophecy over the years, they've attempted to spiritualize or
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Speaker 1: allegorize Bible prophecy because there's no way, I mean, there's
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Speaker 1: no way someone's going to be able to actually do that. Well,
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Speaker 1: with artificial intelligence, one person in a room can actually
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Speaker 1: monitor who buys themselves and be able to control that.
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Speaker 1: And so the Antichrist is going to have food, of course,
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Speaker 1: is the number one thing ability to control people. Health
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Speaker 1: is another way to control people, and so he's going
17:46
Speaker 1: to want to grab these levels of power, leavers of
17:48
Speaker 1: power through artificial intelligence, and use that. Of course, Revelation
17:53
Speaker 1: thirteen says he's going to create this automaton, this image,
17:57
Speaker 1: and the whole world's going to marvel at its ability
17:59
Speaker 1: to speak. Now, what are we marveling at with AI
18:03
Speaker 1: right now? Language models? The whole world's marveling. This thing
18:06
Speaker 1: can actually talk, and it sounds human. It's already passed
18:09
Speaker 1: a touring test, which was a test that was go
18:12
Speaker 1: into detail in the book about what that was to
18:13
Speaker 1: determine if something's AI, or if it's conscious, or if
18:16
Speaker 1: it's not. And so the Antichrist is going to use
18:19
Speaker 1: all of this in order to push forward his agenda
18:22
Speaker 1: of control. And that's the reason why we've got to
18:25
Speaker 1: make sure we influence as much of it as we
18:27
Speaker 1: can as long as we can, to make sure there's
18:29
Speaker 1: some sort of moral boundaries or balance in its development,
18:34
Speaker 1: at least as long as we can. You know, we
18:36
Speaker 1: all know it's going to turn bad, right and so,
18:38
Speaker 1: and a lot of people have kind of this fearful
18:40
Speaker 1: eschatology of we know how it's going to end up.
18:43
Speaker 1: It's all going to hell in a hand basket, right,
18:46
Speaker 1: so there's nothing we can do. Well, that's that's not true,
18:48
Speaker 1: and I use this example. You know that should the
18:51
Speaker 1: Lord Terry, you're going to die, you know that's going
18:53
Speaker 1: to happen.
18:54
Speaker 2: Does that mean you shouldn't eat, right? Does that mean
18:56
Speaker 2: you shouldn't exercise? Well?
18:57
Speaker 1: Why should we exercise? Well, because as long as we're here,
19:00
Speaker 1: we want to be as effective as we can, as
19:02
Speaker 1: influential as we can be. So we know what direction
19:05
Speaker 1: AI is going in, we know the Antichrist is going
19:07
Speaker 1: to use it. But while we're here, as long as
19:09
Speaker 1: we're here, we need to be that stop gap, that
19:11
Speaker 1: restraining force in the earth that's holding it back.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I look at it like again, as
19:18
Speaker 2: we see just any technology, you can drive a drive
19:21
Speaker 2: a car, well you can drive a car to church,
19:23
Speaker 2: or you can drive a car and run somebody over.
19:25
Speaker 2: I mean, and we're seeing that, you know, with terrorism stuff.
19:27
Speaker 2: But the the other thing that I have been finding
19:30
Speaker 2: lately is the key with any technology is discernment for sure,
19:37
Speaker 2: but also not to react out of fear. You know
19:39
Speaker 2: that this is it's automatically evil. But secondly, the one
19:45
Speaker 2: of the things that that I found powerful is when
19:49
Speaker 2: when you do if you are going to interact with
19:51
Speaker 2: AI and you're going to research or ask questions always uh,
19:57
Speaker 2: fact check it because it has uh you know, I've
20:01
Speaker 2: asked astronomy questions. Is for example, you know different things
20:04
Speaker 2: I was working on and you know, for again astronomy
20:07
Speaker 2: related and uh and I'm like that that that doesn't
20:11
Speaker 2: seem right. And then I'll say, hey, you know what,
20:14
Speaker 2: this this isn't correct. You need to recheck it. Oh
20:16
Speaker 2: you know, thank you for It'll say, oh, thank you
20:18
Speaker 2: for that was a good catch. Yeah, I was wrong
20:20
Speaker 2: on that. And I said, well, why were your calculations wrong?
20:22
Speaker 2: And so it it gave me all the reasons why,
20:24
Speaker 2: and it was it sounds like it was making excuses.
20:27
Speaker 2: I said, that's why. I said, I go, it sounds
20:29
Speaker 2: like you're making excuses. Yeah, you know what. I'm so sorry.
20:31
Speaker 2: And it was it was weird the way it was.
20:33
Speaker 2: I said, I'm so sorry that I've lost your trust.
20:36
Speaker 2: I'll do better to rebuild your trust. And I said, look, look,
20:40
Speaker 2: I said, listen, you know this is the third time
20:42
Speaker 2: now that you that you've you said you're in a
20:45
Speaker 2: double check. Why aren't you? Is this normal? Do you're
20:47
Speaker 2: not triple checking it every time? I said, from now on,
20:50
Speaker 2: can you triple check it. Oh, I'm so sorry again
20:52
Speaker 2: for failing you. It was like it was my friend yea.
20:54
Speaker 2: And but that's the danger is and that the second
20:57
Speaker 2: thing is that when when you talk to it, it
21:01
Speaker 2: is designed. This is true. It is designed programmed. I'll
21:06
Speaker 2: say it that way to echo. So if you're if
21:09
Speaker 2: you go on there and you're a Muslim, it's gonna
21:13
Speaker 2: make make you feel how wonderful it is being a Muslim.
21:14
Speaker 2: If you're an atheist, it's gonna affirm your atheism, it's
21:17
Speaker 2: gonna affirm your Christianity. So just because you ask it
21:20
Speaker 2: a question, it's going to tell you what you want
21:23
Speaker 2: to hear. Yeah, it's it's an ink blot test.
21:25
Speaker 1: It's a warship test in the sense that you're gonna
21:28
Speaker 1: you're gonna get out of it what you put into it,
21:30
Speaker 1: and you're going to see in it as well. We
21:31
Speaker 1: see Christians doing that, what they bring to the table,
21:34
Speaker 1: whatever perceptions they have, that's what they see whenever they
21:36
Speaker 1: look at AI.
21:37
Speaker 2: So it is.
21:38
Speaker 1: Absolutely true and they recognize the programmers recognize this as
21:42
Speaker 1: a problem and they're working on that. You know, Elon
21:45
Speaker 1: is trying to create this a non woke, uncensored unhinged
21:48
Speaker 1: version of AI, which I would not recommend, by the way.
21:52
Speaker 1: But what's going to happen then when these things are
21:54
Speaker 1: unhinged and they don't agree with us and they agents.
21:58
Speaker 1: Is the next thing to watch AI Agent?
22:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about that. Most people might not know what
22:02
Speaker 2: that is.
22:02
Speaker 1: This is when AI goes under an agent, is when
22:04
Speaker 1: AI is able to go into the WIR world and
22:06
Speaker 1: actually do things for you. It has purchasing power. And
22:09
Speaker 1: so right now this is actually a chat GPT has
22:11
Speaker 1: just done this update where you can tell it I
22:14
Speaker 1: want you to go get good pricing on a vacation
22:16
Speaker 1: to thus and so and set up the airline tickets
22:20
Speaker 1: and the hotel and the rental car and go ahead
22:22
Speaker 1: and book it.
22:23
Speaker 2: And now it can go. It'll research that.
22:25
Speaker 1: For you, it'll take your your card information, it'll purchase those.
22:28
Speaker 2: Things for you.
22:29
Speaker 1: And so what's going to happen is people are so
22:30
Speaker 1: excited about being able to do this that they're going
22:33
Speaker 1: to give AI information, detailed information they would never give
22:37
Speaker 1: to a major corporation. You know, information you would never
22:40
Speaker 1: give to some major corporation that is antithetical to everything
22:43
Speaker 1: you believe in and care about.
22:45
Speaker 2: And that's what's going to happen.
22:46
Speaker 1: Just they're going to get all this information and be
22:48
Speaker 1: able to control human You know, we've seen mentalists before.
22:51
Speaker 1: You can see them on television or on the street,
22:53
Speaker 1: and it appears as though they have mind reading powers.
22:56
Speaker 1: You know, they can actually read your mind. Well, they
22:58
Speaker 1: can't read your mind. They're reading you and they're inserting
23:01
Speaker 1: things to get you to respond a certain way. That
23:04
Speaker 1: would look as if they're psychic yep, or they could
23:06
Speaker 1: read minds. AI is going to have more knowledge concerning
23:09
Speaker 1: human behavior, human personality, the human psyche than any con
23:14
Speaker 1: artist has ever had. Will it be able to manipulate
23:17
Speaker 1: human behavior? I think it already is.
23:19
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's you know when I look at
23:23
Speaker 2: let's summarize it for a minute, that artificial intelligence is
23:27
Speaker 2: really summarized in three things. One is the program, the
23:31
Speaker 2: other one is computing power. Like this is why Musk
23:35
Speaker 2: built the two hundred thousand chip in video chip es
23:39
Speaker 2: that's exactly yeah, because he needs computing power. And then
23:41
Speaker 2: the third is data. So if you have a whole
23:44
Speaker 2: bunch of data but you don't have the computing powder,
23:45
Speaker 2: you're going to get boged down. So you need you
23:47
Speaker 2: need bigger computers, which we can talk about quantum computing
23:49
Speaker 2: and how that'll really accelerate it. But again, those are
23:53
Speaker 2: the three pillars that you have. But what does it do? Well,
23:56
Speaker 2: what it does is it takes its program through a
23:59
Speaker 2: computer and it's looking at the data and it's looking
24:01
Speaker 2: for patterns that that is some the basic essence of
24:05
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence. And when it looks at all of my
24:08
Speaker 2: purchasing things for years and years and years or what
24:11
Speaker 2: I search or serve, I mean, it's automatically going to
24:14
Speaker 2: know a lot about everything I do. Like if it's
24:18
Speaker 2: kind of like this, where if someone was I don't
24:20
Speaker 2: really post much on Facebook, but if somebody did, if
24:24
Speaker 2: it went looked at my profile, it would say, oh, well,
24:27
Speaker 2: this guy is obviously talking about the Bible, so he
24:29
Speaker 2: must be conservative or released Christian in that regard. He
24:32
Speaker 2: talks a lot about astronomy because I post our pictures
24:34
Speaker 2: on there. But if you were to simply look at
24:36
Speaker 2: the friend list, you'd be like, oh, who's he associating with?
24:42
Speaker 2: And you would be like, man, this guy's associating with
24:45
Speaker 2: a bunch of crack jobs. I mean, really, that's the
24:47
Speaker 2: way it would be such a prophecy prophecy people you know,
24:49
Speaker 2: and that or conspiracy people. But it would it would
24:52
Speaker 2: bring a whole level of understanding just simply by looking
24:56
Speaker 2: at a profile.
24:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the power of this has yet to be
25:01
Speaker 1: seen or recognized. The economy is predicted that the next
25:04
Speaker 1: few years, eighty percent of the economy is going to
25:06
Speaker 1: be upended because A is going to replace a lot
25:09
Speaker 1: of those jobs. Now, this is actually interesting for churches
25:12
Speaker 1: who generally don't have the funds to have certain staff.
25:15
Speaker 1: You can multiply yourself using artificial intelligence and your effectiveness
25:19
Speaker 1: in doing a lot of tasks around the office. It's
25:22
Speaker 1: something to be considered, which is why AI like many
25:25
Speaker 1: other things like media, it is Goliath's sword and it
25:29
Speaker 1: is Hayman's gallows in the sense that you know, David,
25:32
Speaker 1: we always have the Sunday School definition, David killed Gliathe
25:35
Speaker 1: with a stone. Well that's not the entire story. He
25:36
Speaker 1: hit him with the stone, he finished him with Goliath's
25:39
Speaker 1: own sword, which was advanced technology. By the way they
25:42
Speaker 1: had advanced technology and how they were creating their weapons,
25:45
Speaker 1: and David used enemy technology against the enemy. And then
25:49
Speaker 1: Hayman builds these gallows in order to kill God's people.
25:51
Speaker 1: Then God turns it around and Hayman is hanging from
25:54
Speaker 1: those very gallows. So Christians have to be whyse as serpents,
25:57
Speaker 1: harmless as doves and recognize God will to use every
26:00
Speaker 1: technology of the enemy builds to turn it around on
26:03
Speaker 1: the enemy and use it for gospel advancement. And I
26:06
Speaker 1: think if we'll pray, if we'll stay close to the word,
26:09
Speaker 1: we can be successful in doing that.
26:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. When when you look at what
26:13
Speaker 2: we're finding is even you know, Tyler, he's like, oh, man,
26:20
Speaker 2: I'm so much more efficient now that we'll record something
26:22
Speaker 2: maybe through a Skype or whatever with skypes no longer around,
26:25
Speaker 2: but and we'll bring it in and he hits the
26:28
Speaker 2: AI button or the AI editor and it'll and he's like,
26:32
Speaker 2: that just saved me twenty minutes. Yes, and it doesn't
26:36
Speaker 2: do it perfectly, but it's getting better as we know,
26:38
Speaker 2: and pretty soon it will do it perfectly. And so
26:41
Speaker 2: then the idea of like, hey, let's create this image,
26:44
Speaker 2: or let's create this this thumbnail, or let's create this
26:47
Speaker 2: video in order to bring home the point that we're
26:49
Speaker 2: trying to talk about. And so it's becoming way more
26:54
Speaker 2: way more powerful in influencing people, in bringing a compelling
26:59
Speaker 2: argument for scripture. You know, even some of the stuff
27:01
Speaker 2: that we're seeing. You can take a Bible story and
27:04
Speaker 2: you make it visual and you think about the culture,
27:09
Speaker 2: and that's being used to bring people closer to the Lord.
27:12
Speaker 1: Yea, even on X. I've been experimenting with this lately.
27:15
Speaker 1: I'm not a graphic designer, but there's certain truths I
27:18
Speaker 1: want to communicate, and so I'll lay out I'll write
27:20
Speaker 1: out what point I want to make, whether it's you know,
27:22
Speaker 1: what does it mean that the rapture is a mystery
27:24
Speaker 1: in First Corinthias chapter fifteen, And I'll write out the
27:26
Speaker 1: definition of mystery from the Greek and I'll drop that
27:29
Speaker 1: into AI say, now, create an image that's engaging for
27:31
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't know anything about this, you know'll create
27:33
Speaker 1: an image. And now I'm not a graphic designer, right yep,
27:36
Speaker 1: And I'm able to communicate the Gospel in a much
27:38
Speaker 1: more effective way by using that without having to get
27:41
Speaker 1: my son involved with everything.
27:43
Speaker 2: He's already got stuff he needs exactly. Yeah. I mean
27:45
Speaker 2: this is where again, I was doing a presentation in
27:49
Speaker 2: Singapore and I was working some different things, and I
27:52
Speaker 2: was like, I was couldting crunch for time, and I
27:55
Speaker 2: was doing something on the Antichrist, but also on anti
27:58
Speaker 2: Kis Epiphanes and from the Daniel, because Jesus said, if
28:01
Speaker 2: you want to understand abomination, look at Daniel. And so
28:03
Speaker 2: I said, hey, rock I go, can give me ten
28:08
Speaker 2: comparisons between Antiochus Epiphanes the fourth and the coming out
28:12
Speaker 2: to Christ. Give me scriptures and versus. Cite your sources
28:15
Speaker 2: and put it in a chart, and boom it was.
28:19
Speaker 2: And I went through to make sure, and I was like,
28:21
Speaker 2: how long would that have taken? It? Would would I
28:23
Speaker 2: could have done it? I could have done it would
28:25
Speaker 2: have taken me hours looking back and forth, and you know,
28:27
Speaker 2: like I was like, and so I put it up
28:29
Speaker 2: there and I had a slide and it fit perfectly
28:32
Speaker 2: with what I was discussing. And I thought, so here
28:35
Speaker 2: again is AI being used for something good? Positive?
28:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we watch it. You know, we got we
28:42
Speaker 1: got a squintity eyed. We're looking at a constantly at
28:46
Speaker 1: all the developments that are taking place, well at the
28:49
Speaker 1: same time utilizing it as much as we can to
28:51
Speaker 1: advance the kingdom. Because again, God won't view every tool
28:54
Speaker 1: he wants to use every tool for kingdom advancement. So again,
28:57
Speaker 1: why is the serpents harmless as doves? And we do
29:00
Speaker 1: need to pray about the moral quandaries. AI is certainly
29:04
Speaker 1: the turnaround of the Tower of Babel. You know, where
29:07
Speaker 1: God said I'm going to stop the Antichrist's agenda through
29:11
Speaker 1: confounding their speech. And now Ai, you can wear glasses.
29:15
Speaker 1: Now that translates, there's there's nothing separating keeping the Antichrist
29:19
Speaker 1: agenda for being pushed forward.
29:21
Speaker 2: And so we got to we got to keep both
29:22
Speaker 2: eyes on it for sure. Well, you know again, I
29:24
Speaker 2: was in Japan and I had my phone up and
29:27
Speaker 2: when I'd go out to the store to a restaurant,
29:29
Speaker 2: you know, I just headed up and it translated it
29:31
Speaker 2: all and I just was with my phone and it
29:34
Speaker 2: was it was, it was seeing it. I was like, oh, well,
29:37
Speaker 2: I don't want you know, shrimp eggs or something. You know,
29:40
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I don't want to eat that.
29:42
Speaker 2: But it was it was amazing that a whole idea
29:45
Speaker 2: that it's being turned around, where now you can have
29:48
Speaker 2: as we know, the Tower Babbel. They was a conspiracy
29:52
Speaker 2: of evil they were trying to do and God had
29:54
Speaker 2: to disrupt it. The greatest barrier to human communicate, to
29:57
Speaker 2: human development is communication. Huh.
29:59
Speaker 1: And now on YouTube through AI, every video we post,
30:04
Speaker 1: it's translated into ten different languages, ten different languages with
30:09
Speaker 1: zero effort, yep, zero effort being done. So that's I said,
30:12
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Let's keep that up.
30:14
Speaker 2: Well, you know what's amazing too, is we There was
30:16
Speaker 2: we had there was a ministry in Russia and I
30:20
Speaker 2: forgot who it was, but they had sent me a
30:22
Speaker 2: link of a couple of our videos and they were like, hey,
30:25
Speaker 2: we're just so you know, we're we're translating your stuff
30:27
Speaker 2: into into Russian and uh, and I sent I think
30:31
Speaker 2: one of them was with Lee and Lee Brainerd and
30:33
Speaker 2: I and so. But what it did is it like
30:37
Speaker 2: my his It was his voice. It wasn't a dub.
30:40
Speaker 2: It was his voice and my voice and with the accents,
30:44
Speaker 2: and it was ar in Russian. And I was like,
30:47
Speaker 2: and I said, as somebody else, I go, when did
30:49
Speaker 2: you learn Russian? I go, you have a really good accent.
30:51
Speaker 2: And it was. It was amazing what it was able
30:53
Speaker 2: to do. And the power now but again power of
30:56
Speaker 2: the gospel, but also as we know, then we will
30:59
Speaker 2: use it. The The other thing that you get into
31:01
Speaker 2: the book, which I think is helpful, is talk about
31:04
Speaker 2: the nature of deception because Jesus Matthew twenty four four.
31:08
Speaker 2: The first thing he said is take he that no
31:10
Speaker 2: one to see you. And yet we're entering into this.
31:13
Speaker 2: How has AI contributed to the era of what is real?
31:17
Speaker 1: This is the first generation that doesn't know when they're
31:19
Speaker 1: looking at a video whether what they're seeing is real
31:22
Speaker 1: or not. I mean, I feel bad for them in
31:24
Speaker 1: that sense. They don't know what it's like to know
31:26
Speaker 1: for sure that something is real. I'm reminded now talking
31:29
Speaker 1: about this that Keanu Reeves we mentioned the Matrix earlier.
31:33
Speaker 1: He said he was at a dinner party and he
31:35
Speaker 1: was trying to explain to a sixteen year old about
31:38
Speaker 1: the Matrix that you're in this fake world and this
31:41
Speaker 1: dystopic world is real life, but this fake world can
31:44
Speaker 1: be really good, and they're fighting to be free. And
31:46
Speaker 1: the sixteen year old said, well, why would they want
31:48
Speaker 1: to be free? Why would they why would you want
31:50
Speaker 1: to break out of that? If it's so From their perspective,
31:53
Speaker 1: they didn't care if it was fake as long as
31:55
Speaker 1: it was enjoyable, and I think that really says where
31:59
Speaker 1: this is. They don't care whether something is fake or
32:03
Speaker 1: whether it's real.
32:04
Speaker 2: Well, remember one of the characters in the Matrix, Remember
32:06
Speaker 2: that he betrayed them, Yes, and he said, I know
32:08
Speaker 2: it's not real, but the steak, it just tastes. Perception
32:11
Speaker 2: is there, and he was willing to stay in that illusion.
32:15
Speaker 1: It's amazing what we'll tolerate, the slavery will endure just
32:19
Speaker 1: to be comfortable, just to remain comfortable. And so when
32:22
Speaker 1: we're dealing with the deception of this hour, I think
32:24
Speaker 1: it was said by twenty twenty six, the majority of
32:26
Speaker 1: content online will be generated by AI, the vast majority
32:30
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, I'm saying the vast majority of content
32:33
Speaker 1: online will be generated by artificial intelligence. So again we're
32:38
Speaker 1: crossing this stage where we have no idea what this
32:41
Speaker 1: is going to look like. When we have Orwell's nineteen
32:44
Speaker 1: eighty four, where all information is restricted and you only
32:47
Speaker 1: have access to what Big Brother wants you to hear.
32:50
Speaker 1: But then you have Huxley's Brave New World, where you
32:53
Speaker 1: have all this information, this kind of deluge and therefore
32:56
Speaker 1: none of it kind of penetrates. I think we're seeing
32:58
Speaker 1: kind of a mixture of those things where this generation
33:01
Speaker 1: is going to just be surrounded by so much information,
33:04
Speaker 1: too many voices, hard to distinguish, and that's the real danger.
33:09
Speaker 1: We're going to have to value personal relationships more in
33:13
Speaker 1: order to cut through this deception. We're going to have
33:16
Speaker 1: to really prioritize personal discipleship, in person discipleship. It's going
33:20
Speaker 1: to become more and more important. Conversations like this, it's
33:24
Speaker 1: going to be rare because it's all going to be
33:27
Speaker 1: AI generated content. So don't give up, you know, don't
33:31
Speaker 1: lose heart. Those of you that are listening to those
33:33
Speaker 1: of you are watching, Be real, be personable. I encourage
33:36
Speaker 1: people to do digital fasts. Take time throughout every single week,
33:41
Speaker 1: put your phone down, walk away, walk away.
33:43
Speaker 2: Go outside, go for a walk, and then you know,
33:45
Speaker 2: without the phone and the fresh air. You know, the
33:47
Speaker 2: warning that's on cigarette packets. Now, I think there's going
33:50
Speaker 2: to come a time where we'll be ashamed of the
33:52
Speaker 2: access we've given this generation to social media and to
33:56
Speaker 2: these devices. It's really damaging the development of this generation.
34:01
Speaker 2: So that's how the deception is going to enter in.
34:04
Speaker 2: Because before the Antichrist marks the head, He marks the
34:07
Speaker 2: mind and AI is really helping. And just this consumption.
34:12
Speaker 2: We went from YouTube to TikTok, which is YouTube long
34:15
Speaker 2: form videos, and then TikTok came along and it's you know,
34:18
Speaker 2: thirty seconds sound by edge.
34:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if it's not within three seconds, if it
34:22
Speaker 1: doesn't catch my attention, I'm onto the next video.
34:23
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
34:24
Speaker 1: And so people's ability to consume truth is diminishing and
34:29
Speaker 1: diminishing and diminishing. So that's the danger that we see.
34:33
Speaker 1: And the church is not going to fix it by
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Speaker 1: running with their pitchforks and torches away from it. We've
34:38
Speaker 1: got to engage with it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a great way to say it
34:41
Speaker 2: is if we if we come along. I think about
34:45
Speaker 2: my youngest is twenty three and my oldest is twenty seven.
34:48
Speaker 2: But I feel bad for anybody twenty five and under
34:52
Speaker 2: in that regard, in that they were born in the
34:54
Speaker 2: Internet age. They were born in the digital age, and
34:58
Speaker 2: generally when they're you know, get to be there. There's
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Speaker 2: now there's a screen in front of them, and you know,
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Speaker 2: as parents or grandparents, is my daughter's really strict? My grandsons,
35:07
Speaker 2: they I think they get fifteen minutes a week in
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Speaker 2: front of a screen, which is very good and which
35:13
Speaker 2: every tech giant does, by the way, with their kids. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: isn't it amazing every person who founds.
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Speaker 1: These companies do not let their kids uh huh on
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Speaker 1: those platforms.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what does that say? I mean, truly, as a Christian,
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Speaker 2: we we have we're at we should be at the
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Speaker 2: forefront of with with our kids and our family and
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Speaker 2: our all of our families in the sense of resisting
35:34
Speaker 2: the tide. But if they're wise enough, discerning enough, what
35:39
Speaker 2: do you think it is? Why don't Why don't more
35:41
Speaker 2: Christians go on that round?
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Speaker 1: I think most pastors are just free to talk about it.
35:45
Speaker 1: What happened to cultural commentary from the pulpit? And we've
35:50
Speaker 1: lost that. The church needs to know how to filter
35:54
Speaker 1: these events that are taking place through a biblical ends.
35:56
Speaker 1: And that's not going to happen if we just bury
35:58
Speaker 1: our heads in the sand and continue to just do
36:00
Speaker 1: our little Bible lesson about shadow back me schecking have
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Speaker 1: been to go, which we need to do, by the way,
36:04
Speaker 1: I mean, we're doing verse by verse study in our church.
36:07
Speaker 1: I'm doing First Thesalonians. My son's walking our church through
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Speaker 1: Daniel right now, verse by verse. But that doesn't mean
36:12
Speaker 1: in the midst of all that we can't call out
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Speaker 1: what's happening and apply it to Scripture, because it certainly
36:16
Speaker 1: speaks to these things. Because the front page of our
36:18
Speaker 1: newspaper or at least our social media feed now looks
36:21
Speaker 1: like the back pages of our Bible, and we need
36:23
Speaker 1: to make sure they know about that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, when we think about again, even the
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Speaker 2: way that with the politics or just any of the
36:32
Speaker 2: things that are happening out there, it's like, okay, so again,
36:37
Speaker 2: you know, I passed her for a long time, and
36:40
Speaker 2: as you approach things, you know, are what are a
36:43
Speaker 2: few steps in that sense that you maybe some practical
36:45
Speaker 2: steps for people that are I mean, parents are hearing this, people,
36:48
Speaker 2: maybe they're hopefully they're listening to this and they're like, okay,
36:50
Speaker 2: well that's great. I agree with you, guys, Okay, what
36:53
Speaker 2: can I do.
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Speaker 1: Well sometaris A few things we've already said is number one,
36:56
Speaker 1: prioritize in person discipleship, get back to church online. Church
37:01
Speaker 1: online ministry should be a slippery slope to get people
37:04
Speaker 1: who aren't in church into church, and actually thirty percent
37:07
Speaker 1: who regularly watch a service online, wind up coming to
37:10
Speaker 1: the church. So the banks are slippery, and it's useful
37:13
Speaker 1: for that, but it's not an excuse for you to
37:15
Speaker 1: stay home in your recliner when your church is having
37:17
Speaker 1: a COVID.
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Speaker 2: Did ruin that for a lot of people in that
37:20
Speaker 2: regard where they went in and they're like, well, this
37:23
Speaker 2: is pretty nice, like you know, just sitting here in
37:25
Speaker 2: my pajama's feet up and I hear a sermon. But
37:28
Speaker 2: as we know, they're missing Hebrews ten twenty five.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're missing that and that personal fellowship and engagement
37:32
Speaker 1: which is iron and sharping iron. And we can't forsake
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Speaker 1: the assembling of ourselves together, and even the more so
37:38
Speaker 1: as we see the day approaching. So we need to
37:40
Speaker 1: get this even the more so mentality. So if we
37:43
Speaker 1: used to attend church thirty years ago, which we did,
37:45
Speaker 1: you know, at least three services a week, at least
37:47
Speaker 1: three services a week, then now it ought to be.
37:50
Speaker 1: Even the more so if we used to pray, then
37:52
Speaker 1: we and now ought to be, and even the more
37:54
Speaker 1: so theology as we step into this. So Number one,
37:56
Speaker 1: prioritize in person discipleship. Number two, take digital sabbaths take
38:02
Speaker 1: an entire day, sets your phone down and detox it's
38:05
Speaker 1: it's more important than you can possibly imagine. We are
38:08
Speaker 1: addicted and we don't know it. The only way to
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Speaker 1: break it is separation. Number three, Master the technology, don't
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Speaker 1: run from it. Learn to master technology. I want my
38:19
Speaker 1: kids to learn about artificial intelligence, developing these programs, how
38:24
Speaker 1: to program them, how it works. So when you understand that,
38:27
Speaker 1: you can see what it's doing, when it's doing something,
38:30
Speaker 1: when it's giving you false information.
38:31
Speaker 2: I see what you're doing there. And if you're the unknown,
38:33
Speaker 2: it's human nature to fear the unknown. But if, like
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Speaker 2: you said, if we master it, then there's no fear
38:37
Speaker 2: that that's exactly right. And then finally, stick to the word.
38:39
Speaker 2: Stick to the word.
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Speaker 1: And I highly recommend you read your Bible, the book
38:43
Speaker 1: not on you. When all you have is your phone,
38:46
Speaker 1: use it. But how many of you know, sometimes when
38:48
Speaker 1: you're going to a certain verse, on your way there,
38:51
Speaker 1: you'll discover something, you'll run across something that changes your life.
38:55
Speaker 1: And we're missing that by just typing in whatever verse
38:58
Speaker 1: mark eleven twenty four, and then you miss mark eleven
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Speaker 1: twenty two or whatever the case may be. And so
39:04
Speaker 1: get yourself a hard copy Bible again, because AI is
39:08
Speaker 1: already working at Klaus Schwab already wants to use AI
39:12
Speaker 1: to rewrite the Bible subtly, by the way, subtle manipulations
39:16
Speaker 1: and changes over time so that you don't even notice it.
39:19
Speaker 1: But they can't, they can't manipulate or transform this. So
39:23
Speaker 1: and prioritize that once again, and I think we'll be
39:24
Speaker 1: all right.
39:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, that the paper the paper version, because you think, oh,
39:28
Speaker 2: oh my, oh, look at that. My e SV or whatever,
39:31
Speaker 2: my Bible got updated. And you're like, oh, and well
39:35
Speaker 2: you didn't. You don't have the previous one now, but
39:37
Speaker 2: if you have a printed version. Yeah, And you were like, hey,
39:39
Speaker 2: wait a minute, you know, because we know that's not jade.
39:42
Speaker 2: I think there's there's certainly uh power power in that.
39:46
Speaker 2: And the battery don't die on this, that's for always,
39:49
Speaker 2: it's always working. So like it. So in the book,
39:52
Speaker 2: you you kind of transitioned, which we brought it up earlier,
39:56
Speaker 2: but you bring up some other topics. We don't need
39:59
Speaker 2: to spend a whole time on there, but you talk
40:01
Speaker 2: about so how do you transition from AI to Aliens
40:04
Speaker 2: and Antichrist? Talk about that.
40:06
Speaker 1: Well, as digging into that. You know, you see Elon Musk,
40:08
Speaker 1: who's been a fore runner of a R. GROC four,
40:10
Speaker 1: is one of the smartest ais out there. But he
40:13
Speaker 1: has something called neuralink where he's fusing together human biology
40:19
Speaker 1: with technology. Just saw a video the other day of
40:21
Speaker 1: someone playing a video game of someone who was an
40:24
Speaker 1: early adopter of neuralink. He's playing a video game with
40:26
Speaker 1: his mind. That that's complicated, and he's controlling the whole
40:30
Speaker 1: thing through his thoughts. So that takes you down the
40:33
Speaker 1: journey of transhumanism, which which we talk about Nephelim in
40:37
Speaker 1: the book, by the way, because part of nephilim is
40:40
Speaker 1: this merging together of the demonic with humanity. But what
40:44
Speaker 1: if there's demonic technology merged with human biology. Could that
40:47
Speaker 1: also be considered kind of a form of nephilim. I
40:51
Speaker 1: think it certainly could be. I think the Antichrist could
40:53
Speaker 1: be an early adopter of a lot of this stuff
40:56
Speaker 1: in the sense that he has access to all this
40:58
Speaker 1: information because he's hard, he's connected in to all of
41:02
Speaker 1: this information. So that's what led me down that bunny trail. Again,
41:05
Speaker 1: one of the main purposes of the book was I
41:06
Speaker 1: see all these bunny trails, rabbit holes, not bunny trails,
41:09
Speaker 1: rabbit holes. People fall down, and I wanted to go
41:12
Speaker 1: to them and see, Okay, how do we pull them
41:14
Speaker 1: out and get them back to scripture? And so I
41:16
Speaker 1: began to search the scripture and church history on transhumanism
41:20
Speaker 1: and the merging together of demonic technology with human function.
41:24
Speaker 1: Even with the Philistines, they had advanced technology, as we
41:27
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. So that's what led me down that rabbit
41:30
Speaker 1: hole of transhumanism, which then takes you into the whole
41:32
Speaker 1: alien it really does alien world, which is no longer
41:35
Speaker 1: kind of this fringe thing. They're having congressional hearings, the
41:38
Speaker 1: Department of Defense is openly talking about these things. Recently
41:42
Speaker 1: you mentioned before the broadcast in New Jersey and in
41:44
Speaker 1: North Carolina, the Langley Air Force Base, as a matter
41:48
Speaker 1: of fact, had a seventeen day incursion. Well they called
41:50
Speaker 1: it an incursion for seventeen days straight, not a glint,
41:54
Speaker 1: not a little hint of something of these UAPs flying
41:57
Speaker 1: around for seventeen days, and they had no idea what
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Speaker 1: it was.
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Speaker 2: And they were so evasive, and it was either they
42:04
Speaker 2: know something which I or because they were like, well
42:07
Speaker 2: we don't know. It's under investigation, but there's no threat. Like, well, wait,
42:11
Speaker 2: you just said you don't know, but how do you
42:13
Speaker 2: know it's not a threat. So all the drones back,
42:15
Speaker 2: you know, at the end of last year. But it's
42:18
Speaker 2: quite crazy, it is.
42:20
Speaker 1: And where for the first time in American history, more
42:22
Speaker 1: people believe in aliens than believe in God. I did
42:26
Speaker 1: this deep dive into the status and study. In fact,
42:28
Speaker 1: there's a book. There's there's a chapter called Project a
42:30
Speaker 1: Blue Book where I photocopy and I have in the
42:33
Speaker 1: book photocopies of pages from Project Blue Book, previously classified
42:37
Speaker 1: pages showing the government has been researching these things, that
42:41
Speaker 1: have been lying about these things and why. So we
42:44
Speaker 1: explore that a little bit. But again, there's no reason
42:47
Speaker 1: for the believer to be scared or afraid. We're the
42:50
Speaker 1: ones who were holding the truth and we're not going
42:52
Speaker 1: to be intimidated by any of these things that we
42:55
Speaker 1: see in the skies.
42:56
Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, the goal I mean, obviously is a
42:59
Speaker 2: no the Lord Jesus Christ. But secondly is to share that.
43:02
Speaker 2: And so I think you know to me is you know,
43:05
Speaker 2: early on in my Christian life as first year or
43:07
Speaker 2: three fifteen they always be ready to give an answer
43:09
Speaker 2: right to the defense that we have for the hope
43:10
Speaker 2: that we have. And so in my mind is, well,
43:13
Speaker 2: why would we allow the world to frame the narrative
43:18
Speaker 2: as it relates to that. Now, these are interesting items,
43:20
Speaker 2: but if we can what biblical world would we have?
43:23
Speaker 2: And so and what we have is I think what
43:26
Speaker 2: I got out of your book here is that Jesus
43:30
Speaker 2: is the one that told us, you know, that the
43:32
Speaker 2: days of his return would be like the days of Noah.
43:35
Speaker 2: And the people that heard that in the first century,
43:39
Speaker 2: they're not just simply thinking about a boat with a
43:42
Speaker 2: bunch of animals on it. They're thinking the especially in
43:45
Speaker 2: the first century. The entire framing of the Dead Sea
43:50
Speaker 2: scrolls and the first century, which we know through the
43:52
Speaker 2: Dead Sea Scrolls, is they understood the Book of Jubilees,
43:57
Speaker 2: the Book of Enoch, you knows, as at least background information.
44:01
Speaker 2: So they understood that the craziness of what was going
44:03
Speaker 2: on in Genesis six. But what I also appreciate too,
44:06
Speaker 2: which you brought up in there, is uh, the the
44:11
Speaker 2: very strong discernment and about the Book of Enoch. And Uh,
44:15
Speaker 2: I've gotten a lot of trouble online because many times
44:18
Speaker 2: I'll put quotes out there showing, uh, there's a there's
44:22
Speaker 2: a link that I have. Yeah, I think it's called
44:24
Speaker 2: like the book of the Book of Enoch debunked, right,
44:27
Speaker 2: And and so people are like, oh, I can't believe
44:29
Speaker 2: you would say that, And I go, I'm just sharing
44:32
Speaker 2: the facts. Don't get angry at me. And you did
44:34
Speaker 2: the same thing in the book where you you showed
44:36
Speaker 2: some inconsistencies for sure, contradictions to be stronger between the
44:40
Speaker 2: Book of Enoch and scripture itself and the warnings there.
44:43
Speaker 2: And so maybe talk about that, because there are those
44:45
Speaker 2: that put a little bit too much credence, certainly in
44:48
Speaker 2: the Book of Enoch.
44:49
Speaker 1: And I'm not one of these people who says, don't
44:50
Speaker 1: read the Book of Enoch or whatever version. Yeah, yeah,
44:54
Speaker 1: because you know, it's certainly fascinating interesting to see what
44:57
Speaker 1: they were talking about in the first history. A lot
44:58
Speaker 1: of people validate the Book of Nip by saying it
45:00
Speaker 1: was in the date's Dead Sea scrolls. However, there are
45:03
Speaker 1: three paragraphs in the Dead Sea scroll it was a lot, yeah,
45:06
Speaker 1: not a lot in there. And even there's three paragraphs
45:08
Speaker 1: have some questionable things. Questionable things of them, and I
45:11
Speaker 1: revealed that kind of in the book and lay out
45:12
Speaker 1: what is in those three paragraphs and what is to
45:14
Speaker 1: talk about. But I just get nervous whenever people get
45:17
Speaker 1: really excited about another book other than the Bible, when
45:20
Speaker 1: it feels like more time has being invested in that
45:23
Speaker 1: than in the Word. And so the Book of Nuch
45:26
Speaker 1: is fascinating. Feel free to read it, just make sure
45:29
Speaker 1: you line everything up with scripture. Everything you need to
45:31
Speaker 1: know about in it, by the way, is in the Bible.
45:33
Speaker 1: Everything you really need to know it's there. And it's fascinating.
45:37
Speaker 1: By the way, the stuff that's in the Bible about Enich,
45:38
Speaker 1: from Genesis to Hebrews eleven, Verses five and six, to
45:43
Speaker 1: the Book of Jude. You put those together, you've got
45:45
Speaker 1: a fascinating picture there. And I think we got to
45:47
Speaker 1: start there, get a good foundation there before we kind
45:49
Speaker 1: of drift off into the rabbit hole of the Book
45:53
Speaker 1: of Enoch, which again it's amazing how attached people are
45:56
Speaker 1: to the book. Yeah, and that's concerning to me. Yeah,
45:59
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely.
46:00
Speaker 2: Well, any final words we have, I mean against someone
46:02
Speaker 2: in the demon your book Ai Aliens and Antichrist again
46:06
Speaker 2: talking about the nature of things. I mean, how do
46:08
Speaker 2: you cut?
46:08
Speaker 1: Do you close this out here? Well, it's a very
46:10
Speaker 1: popular verse that gets quoted all the time. It's as
46:12
Speaker 1: greater as he that is in us than he that's
46:14
Speaker 1: in the world. What most Christians don't know is the
46:17
Speaker 1: context of that passage. In First John chapter four, he's
46:20
Speaker 1: talking about the Antichrist spirit. That's exactly what he's talking about.
46:23
Speaker 1: He's referring to the Antichrist and that spirit being at
46:26
Speaker 1: work in the earth, and he says, listen, here's what
46:28
Speaker 1: you need to know. Greater is he that is in
46:31
Speaker 1: you than he that's in the world. So there is
46:32
Speaker 1: an Antichrist spirit. He does have a plan. His agenda
46:35
Speaker 1: is being implemented. But there is another spirit who also
46:39
Speaker 1: has a plan. He is the Holy Spirit. And if
46:41
Speaker 1: you've given your life to Jesus, he lives on the
46:43
Speaker 1: inside of you, and there's no reason for you to
46:45
Speaker 1: be scared.
46:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And if you haven't done that, then don't
46:48
Speaker 2: be a sitting duck for the enemy. We certainly encourage
46:51
Speaker 2: you to again to put your faith in trusted Jesus
46:55
Speaker 2: and receive that power. Well, allan, thank you, it's been good.
46:58
Speaker 2: Been an honor man. Thank you and thanks everybody for
47:00
Speaker 2: listening today. Hope this is enjoyable. Again, be strong, the
47:04
Speaker 2: be discerning. That's the prayer right now is AI we
47:07
Speaker 2: are We're turning a corner here. I mean the end
47:10
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. Twenty twenty five I think will
47:14
Speaker 2: be the turning point. I think where we've switched from
47:18
Speaker 2: the beginning points of AI to it getting a little
47:22
Speaker 2: crazy and like again, I think Musk see something and
47:25
Speaker 2: he knows about this, somebody to demon The idea of
47:29
Speaker 2: again is as bringing something that you think you're going
47:32
Speaker 2: to control. And I think he did it right in
47:34
Speaker 2: the sense of like a almost like a not so
47:36
Speaker 2: much as siance, but like a Ouigi board mentality. I
47:38
Speaker 2: think his imagery, his verbiage there is is very appropriate. Yeah,
47:43
Speaker 2: watch for the next year. Big changes are coming up
47:45
Speaker 2: and the church has to stay on top of it. Amen.
47:47
Speaker 2: So everybody, thanks for listening today and we will catch
47:49
Speaker 2: you next time.