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Tigs Throw Away Division Lead · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger's Territory. Part of
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Speaker 1: the Territory umbork A the Troy Tiger's Podcast. I'm Keiostick.
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Speaker 1: Olivian is always a man who right now has to
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Speaker 1: determine whether he believes in curses. He is goday' Davinaggen.
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Speaker 2: How you doing, Karen? I don't know what hurse the Tigers,
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Speaker 2: but I think something did. I'm gonna go with I
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Speaker 2: believe in I believe in curses because this is unfathomable,
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Speaker 2: This is unconscievle, This is this is hard to wrap
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Speaker 2: my head around. It's more than just playing bad baseball.
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Speaker 2: It's more than having a flawed roster construction. It's making
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Speaker 2: me wonder did something going behind the scenes with these guys.
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Speaker 2: Do we have our own chicken and beer situation or
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Speaker 2: something like that. I've not gotten a whiff of anything
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Speaker 2: like that, but it's making you wonder if something more fundamentally,
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Speaker 2: you know, is broken with this team. Because it's been
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Speaker 2: everything that can go wrong, they can't snap out of it.
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Speaker 2: And tonight you had your guy, your horse on the
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Speaker 2: mound and he was pitching, well, you weren't really having
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Speaker 2: very good at best, even even got yourself a little
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Speaker 2: two run lead, and then the sixth inning, maybe the
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Speaker 2: strangest inning of baseball I have ever seen, that spiraled
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Speaker 2: into just complete disaster for the Detroit Tigers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, there's obviously a lot for one game.
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Speaker 1: There's obviously a lot of directions that we can go here,
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Speaker 1: but let's just let's just go straight into the sixth ending.
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Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna read the play by play because
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Speaker 1: it's it's remarkable. So Kwan, who, by the way, my
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Speaker 1: wife has grown to sports hate heavily. Uh I hate him.
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Speaker 1: Right after we made that catchup Parker Meadow's flyout, quan
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Speaker 1: you know, bunt single, Okay, then Martinez tries to sacrifice
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Speaker 1: and that ends up being being a essentially a double
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Speaker 1: for him because Tarror Schoolball does the unfathomable move of
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Speaker 1: trying to hike the ball between his legs and that
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Speaker 1: goes over Torgoson's head. Who furl Torgusson's faults him not
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Speaker 1: being eight feet tall is not something that we can
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Speaker 1: blame him for.
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Speaker 3: And uh so.
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Speaker 1: That's not gonna go. I guess his out some average
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, runners on second there with no outs and
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Speaker 1: you're like, okay, I mean, if there's anyone that can
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Speaker 1: kind of maybe try to get through this as school ball.
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Speaker 1: But then it's Jose Ramirez at the plate and he
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Speaker 1: jams him and McKinstry charges in and there's no play,
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Speaker 1: so you get a runner there, and and then you
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Speaker 1: have the David Fry situation, which I obviously we both
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Speaker 1: hope that he's okay. That was a freaky situation, no doubt,
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Speaker 1: so hopefully he's okay. But you know, in terms of
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Speaker 1: the baseball stuff that was that added to just the
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Speaker 1: weirdness of the inning, and uh, and then schoolbole.
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Speaker 4: Throws a wild pitch. Uh, class scored a wild pitch.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure Dingle would probably say you should probably do
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Speaker 1: a better double blocking that, but it goes down as
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Speaker 1: a wild pitch, and and then you get another ground
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Speaker 1: out that scores the run.
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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you lose the lead on.
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Speaker 1: What I would almost consider like non with that part
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Speaker 1: of the lineup. Non baseball is stuff like it was
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Speaker 1: just like out of this world things that as.
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Speaker 2: None of those balls left the infield, none of them
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Speaker 2: were hit harder than sixty five point five miles an hour.
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Speaker 2: I think none of them traveled farther than five feet
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Speaker 2: before hitting the ground. So that's Guardians, the Guardian's devil
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Speaker 2: magic at its absolute finest. But you also had a
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Speaker 2: tear scooble error, wild pitch, and bock all in the
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Speaker 2: same ending, and it was like a total, like a
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Speaker 2: total I'm sorry, it was like a total mental meltdown.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the play that was just you're trying to
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Speaker 2: get an out. But that's like a hero ball play.
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Speaker 2: It's not it's not a smart play. Whatever the bock,
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Speaker 2: he said, He I don't know. Ramirez was shuffling and dancing.
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Speaker 2: I asked him if that distracted him. He said no,
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Speaker 2: it was more than noise. I'm not sure if he
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Speaker 2: meant crowd noise or the noise of Ramirez his feet
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Speaker 2: or you know, someone yelling to alert him. I still
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Speaker 2: don't even nobody flinched. You had the wild pitch. You know,
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Speaker 2: he couldn't really control those other base runners on the
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Speaker 2: infield hits, but it was like this meltdown. It left
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Speaker 2: him deeply flustered. The Fry thing, I mean, you feel
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Speaker 2: for both David fry And and terror Scuobele. You know
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Speaker 2: you saw his reaction took his hat off through his glove.
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Speaker 2: He was he was kind of horrified, and you don't
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Speaker 2: want to criticize the guy for that, but I do
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Speaker 2: think he kind of struggled to lock back in the competition.
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Speaker 2: He said that wasn't a factor, but Dylan Dinglers said, look,
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Speaker 2: I know that's tough. I know it's tough, and sounded
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Speaker 2: like he was going to say something else and then
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Speaker 2: said that's all I'm gonna say. So you know, I
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Speaker 2: think he felt maybe Terrek hadn't locked in and in
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Speaker 2: the in the bench, schoopl threw his gloves. Scooble looked
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Speaker 2: dejected talking to him post game. It was the lack
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Speaker 2: of a better term, pissiest I've seen since probably his
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Speaker 2: first full season in the major leagues when he was
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Speaker 2: having some rough starts. This one got to him, man,
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Speaker 2: this one got to him, and I think this one
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Speaker 2: got to the whole team more than any of these
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Speaker 2: other losses have.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, just a bizarre and like almost indescribable like
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Speaker 1: series of events. Uh, somebody, I apologize, it's late night,
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Speaker 1: so I can't remember exactly who put it out there,
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Speaker 1: but somebody put out like Schooble had like only a
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Speaker 1: handful of like a buck and like, you know, wow,
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Speaker 1: it was.
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Speaker 2: To That was the second box of his career. There
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Speaker 2: was the eleventh wild pitch of his career, something like
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Speaker 2: seventh there or sixth there or something.
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Speaker 1: Probably the first air where he tried to put the
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Speaker 1: ball between his legs.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's not in Miami two years ago.
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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. Okay, that's that's shout the research
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Speaker 1: department on that one on on the Twitter sphere. So
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Speaker 1: so yeah, just like you would, you would bet everything
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Speaker 1: that you wouldn't get all of those things in this
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Speaker 1: game period, much less in one inning. And I mean,
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Speaker 1: I you know, shout out to the Guardians for kind
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Speaker 1: of you know, putting pressure on the Tigers and then
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Speaker 1: also like just kind of figuring out, well, we gotta
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Speaker 1: do something against this guy. So we're we're we're gonna
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Speaker 1: just do something different and we're gonna lay down bunths
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Speaker 1: and we're just gonna find a way. So that's that's
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Speaker 1: really the big thing right now here, Cody, is that
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Speaker 1: all the magic that we experienced last year watching this
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Speaker 1: team and then up until like six weeks ago watching
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Speaker 1: this team is gone. Like the like the the it
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Speaker 1: has evaporated, is.
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Speaker 2: Gone, it's dead, it's all the way dead.
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Speaker 4: And it well it's not dead.
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Speaker 1: It just relocated the Cleveland. I mean that's really what
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Speaker 1: it is, like like like you know, it's not creat
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Speaker 1: it's just transferred, like like Cleveland's got it all. And
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Speaker 1: again this is to their credit. They are doing this.
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Speaker 1: They are earning everything here. And like I kept taking
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Speaker 1: notes during this game, and I was like, if they're
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Speaker 1: gonna turn this around, if they're gonna right the ship,
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Speaker 1: there's gonna have to be some sort of breakthrough, some
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Speaker 1: from somebody or some like ism that is it hasn't
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Speaker 1: been working. You know, there is a possibility like when
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Speaker 1: when uh Dingler has the backpick and it's like all
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Speaker 1: right now they're you know, they're on top of everything.
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Speaker 1: Like that's one of those like old classic Tigery smart
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Speaker 1: plays like maybe that can cost Spark something, you know,
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Speaker 1: even uh you know McKinstry getting the double and then
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Speaker 1: and then Perez doubling home and it's like, okay, well
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Speaker 1: those are two guys that we have been kind of
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Speaker 1: saying like gonna have to get something, and they and
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Speaker 1: you got something there, like that's the start and then
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Speaker 1: even uh right after Riley Green probably runs the fastest
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Speaker 1: he's run those season for an infield hit, and then
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Speaker 1: you know, they get the loaded base situation there, school
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Speaker 1: gets a shutdown any right afterward, and I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 1: like your hummy, like you're kind of playing Tigers baseball.
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Speaker 1: And then it all comes to a crash uh in
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Speaker 1: in that sixth. And then I'll compound the schoobl emotion
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Speaker 1: with Torque when he struck out there in the eighth
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Speaker 1: where he slammed his bat. I'm actually kind of glad
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Speaker 1: that I saw all that from those two guys specific.
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Speaker 2: Show some emotion.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you guys, because because here's the thing. They
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Speaker 1: can coach speak their way through this if they want,
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Speaker 1: like outwardly, but the thing is like this is real. Now,
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Speaker 1: it's real.
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Speaker 4: Al Central is tied, and the tie breaker not in
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Speaker 4: your favor.
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Speaker 2: So like, the Tigers have done it. They've blown the lead.
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Speaker 2: They've blown it fifteen and a half game division lead.
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Speaker 2: You still got a chance to get it back, you
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Speaker 2: still got a chance to get in the playoffs. But
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Speaker 2: you have done it. You've blown it. Unbelievable. Ye, back
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Speaker 2: quality care was poor, it was awful. They struck out
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Speaker 2: nineteen times. They had I think thirty three whiffs just chasing,
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Speaker 2: just breaking balls out of the zone. But they also
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Speaker 2: took I think thirty two halt strikes, so they were
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Speaker 2: just completely caught in between. Didn't seem to have much
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Speaker 2: of an approach. Couldn't eliminate spin from Gavin Williams Arsenal,
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Speaker 2: which I think would be what the scouting report would say.
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Speaker 2: If you see the ball doing this, don't swing. That's
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Speaker 2: a lot easier said than done. And watching some of
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Speaker 2: the pitching Ninja videos, you can see that ball looks
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Speaker 2: the same until it's about on you. But you had
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Speaker 2: all night to make an adjustment, and pretty much no
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Speaker 2: one did. You had some big at bats. You mentioned
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Speaker 2: the basis loaded situation. You just got guys hacking at
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Speaker 2: stuff in the dirt and then taking pictures of their strikes.
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Speaker 2: The strikers a little big, but I mean, come on,
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Speaker 2: it also seemed like the bats are getting worse every game.
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Speaker 2: If you remember earlier this year, there was a time
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Speaker 2: like man, the tech is really you can see them
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Speaker 2: kind of executing a plan. You can see them doing
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Speaker 2: something every night, whether it's you know, we're gonna jump
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Speaker 2: on this guy's fastball, or we're not gonna swing at sliders,
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Speaker 2: or you can usually identify a common team. I don't
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Speaker 2: know what happened to that. That's long ago.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're gonna get on several more tangents here
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Speaker 1: because there's a lot to say from this game. But
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Speaker 1: if we if we go on, we're gonna forget to
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Speaker 1: take care of the people to take care of us.
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna get to some more missed breakthroughs that
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Speaker 1: Coming back here? How appropriate cause I'm not sure what
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Speaker 1: the Tiger superpower is. But you know, among the other
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Speaker 1: again like missed breakthroughs that we did see, Like you know,
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Speaker 1: I mentioned the Perez mcstry combination. Those are the two
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Speaker 1: guys that came up with one out with the bases loaded,
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Speaker 1: and they both struck out swinging and not very competitively.
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Speaker 1: I would say Riley Green had not had a hit
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Speaker 1: off Gavin in his career, right he was, he was
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Speaker 1: over and uh he has he has.
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Speaker 4: He has two hits including you know, the home run.
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Speaker 1: So again you're thinking like maybe these are kind of
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Speaker 1: things that can kind of get you know, gets you
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Speaker 1: in the right direction doesn't happen. Uh. And then Kyle
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Speaker 1: Finn again, I I, I know you made note of
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Speaker 1: this on X and in your and in your story
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Speaker 1: on the Athletic Kyle Finningen comes in to face Kwan. Uh.
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Speaker 1: I'll get your your analysis of that decision a second.
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Speaker 1: But he gives he ends up giving up two hits
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Speaker 1: and and and and you know the game breaks open
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Speaker 1: at that point.
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Speaker 4: You know, he gave up three hits.
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Speaker 1: Cody his entire time with the Tigers, pre injury.
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Speaker 2: Times when I pointed out how crazy lows Babbit was.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and since then he has in two outings he
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Speaker 1: has given up three I would say consequential and loud hits.
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Speaker 1: And that's not even including runs. So back to back
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Speaker 1: outings with Earn runs either not giving up an earned run.
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Speaker 1: You know his his you know, pre injury with the Tigers.
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Speaker 1: But it was an interesting decision by AJ to bring in,
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Speaker 1: to bring inf and again in that situation.
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Speaker 2: It was one of the most questionable, inexplicable decisions I
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Speaker 2: can think of a J. Hinch makings. Maybe there's got
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Speaker 2: to be others in five years covering him. This is tonight.
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Speaker 2: This seems like the strangest one. I guess I know
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Speaker 2: why it's not strange, though it is the thing. We
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Speaker 2: talked about their flaws and their roster construction and going
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Speaker 2: into this series with only two left handed pitchers, and
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Speaker 2: aj hinchc got asked about that before the game and
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Speaker 2: he said, I don't care about handedness as much as
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Speaker 2: maybe some do.
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Speaker 4: That's a that's a that's a that is something to say.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 2: I got like bright here. We've we've talked about this
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Speaker 2: because I know you don't always care about handedness, and
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Speaker 2: I talked, there are two reasons I care about handedness, Karan.
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Speaker 2: One is I believe in basic math, and two is
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Speaker 2: because I've covered A J. Hinch for five seasons and
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Speaker 2: all I've heard is matchups and handedness. Then suddenly, in
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Speaker 2: the biggest series he has played, he doesn't care about handedness.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he was covering from the front
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Speaker 2: off for the front office or if if we're really
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Speaker 2: in the upside down now. I know Drew Summers is
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Speaker 2: not the best pitcher in the world, and Bailey Oorns
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Speaker 2: got pretty good stuff. I would take him in a pinch,
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Speaker 2: even though he doesn't throw strikes. So in a way,
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Speaker 2: I guess you could understand Kyle Finigan handles lefties well.
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Speaker 2: I guess I could understand, like maybe if your choices
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Speaker 2: are Drew Summers or Kyle Finnigan that in that situation maybe,
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Speaker 2: But you know Drew Summers is not on in this question.
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Speaker 2: You know who's fresh and ready. It was Tyler Holten
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Speaker 2: and at the top of the order two outs, you
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Speaker 2: need to get one batter out. You brought in a righty.
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Speaker 2: Stephen Kwan is a seven to seventy four ops against
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Speaker 2: right He's in a five ninety ops against lefties. I
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Speaker 2: don't know why you wouldn't bringing Tyler Holten or Yed
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Speaker 2: Brandner where you're saving them for something else. Maybe, but
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Speaker 2: guess what, nothing else matters, at least not in this game.
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Speaker 2: Because Kwan hit a double and then the Guardians had
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Speaker 2: lefties on their bench. AJ manages against this all the time.
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Speaker 2: So why that happens Stephen vote puts in another lefty?
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Speaker 2: What happens he gets another hit? You're in that situation
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Speaker 2: because of a poor roster construction. That's Scott Ayris's fault
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Speaker 2: in my opinion. And then aj hinch a very strange decision.
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Speaker 2: He said, that's our guy. We want him facing the
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Speaker 2: top of the order. I'm not really sure why you
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Speaker 2: would want him facing the top of the order when
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Speaker 2: the top of the order includes Stephen Kwan. But I
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Speaker 2: guess I'm just one of these people that cares about handedness.
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Speaker 1: Now, all right, you like matth Here here's a stat
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Speaker 1: for you. I didn't see anybody anybody put this out there.
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Speaker 1: I went, I went and found it myself. So part
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Speaker 1: of the Guardians magic or voodoo or Tiger's curse or
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Speaker 1: whatever you want to place it on, is that Daniel Schneeman.
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Speaker 1: It was a two two count right, Daniel Schneman this
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Speaker 1: season on two two counts hits one oh four, and
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Speaker 1: he got he got himself a split that didn't split,
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Speaker 1: and it was up and and he poked it the
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Speaker 1: other way, and and and and and that's you know,
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Speaker 1: twice seven outs and all these things that we've been
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Speaker 1: saying and witnessing, it's not just words. We've been witnessing
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Speaker 1: it for you know, a better part of two years now.
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Speaker 1: It does not feel like that applies in that in
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Speaker 1: the in these situations anymore.
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Speaker 2: No, And I was trying to look a little deeper
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Speaker 2: on the fly like Kwan hasn't been great against splitters.
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Speaker 2: I think he's in like one ninety against splitters this year.
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Speaker 2: But then, why are you're throwing them a forcing fastball?
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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I guess you can't just throw
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Speaker 2: him four or five. I don't know, maybe he can
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Speaker 2: if you're trying to get him out. Why why are
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Speaker 2: you getting to see hm quant fastball?
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Speaker 3: You fast.
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Speaker 1: And then and we haven't even mentioned the fact that
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Speaker 1: you know, Kaine Walks, I mean Hedges. Hedges might be
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Speaker 1: the most impactful sub two hundred hitter against one team
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Speaker 1: in the history of Major.
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Speaker 2: But he is literally one of the worst hitters in
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Speaker 2: the history of Major League Baseball. No offense. Awesome, dude,
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Speaker 2: great catchers. White team still want him, but he is
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Speaker 2: a terrible hitter. And you got him down oh two
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Speaker 2: and you walked him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unbelievable. Uh again, it's just it. There are
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Speaker 1: a lot like there are a lot of things that
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Speaker 1: were fun last year because they did not they were
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Speaker 1: the unexplainable and we're and we're seeing uh some more
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Speaker 1: unexplainable aspects uh from this team right now. As again
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Speaker 1: they are tied and they have lost their al Central lead.
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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna continue to talk about this game,
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Speaker 1: and and and and and what what what is that?
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Speaker 1: What is going on in that clubhouse? You know, Cody's
17:53
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Speaker 1: Check it out, all right, coming back here. Obviously this
19:04
Speaker 1: is not something that costs them the game, but another
19:07
Speaker 1: just kind of strange wrinkled. You know, before the game
19:10
Speaker 1: even started, was you know, Hobby or Bias is in
19:13
Speaker 1: the starting lineup and he gets scratched due to uh
19:16
Speaker 1: it was next stiffness, right.
19:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's dated to day. Don't know a lot else
19:25
Speaker 2: he's dated it.
19:27
Speaker 1: And and then the ball finds you Tray Sweeney has
19:31
Speaker 1: to come in early, and in the first ending he
19:33
Speaker 1: gets a you know, another jam job. You know, if
19:37
Speaker 1: only we knew there was gonna be a more consequence
19:39
Speaker 1: of jam job later in the game, but another jam
19:42
Speaker 1: job where you think he's gonna get to it, but
19:45
Speaker 1: then you think, if he's not gonna get to it,
19:46
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna be able to take the short
19:48
Speaker 1: hop and then uh and then have a play at first,
19:51
Speaker 1: and neither one of those things happened. Uh, and so
19:54
Speaker 1: that just you know, in a weird school did have
19:57
Speaker 1: a little bit of motion. I don't know if you
19:59
Speaker 1: guys caught that, but it was like, you know, especially
20:03
Speaker 1: you know, being top of the order here, you don't
20:04
Speaker 1: want to put runners on for Jose Ramirez. But but
20:08
Speaker 1: that that that was the thing that happened. Does Hobby
20:10
Speaker 1: make that play? You kind of probably assume he does.
20:12
Speaker 1: And then in fairness of Sweeney, he did make a
20:15
Speaker 1: nice play in the hole later in the game where
20:17
Speaker 1: he got you know, got the force out of third
20:19
Speaker 1: for the final out of the ending. But uh, we talked,
20:23
Speaker 1: we talked about roster construction. That's a part of it too,
20:26
Speaker 1: man Like, like.
20:28
Speaker 2: Dude, I've said, not a big call up, Kevin McGonagall. Guy,
20:35
Speaker 2: he canna be worse than Trey Sweeney at this point though,
20:38
Speaker 2: Like I don't, like, really, it's just a shame you
20:41
Speaker 2: don't have any other feasible option, you know, on your roster.
20:45
Speaker 2: And I don't want to pick one Tray Sweeney too
20:48
Speaker 2: much because this this guy's out here, he's grinding, he's
20:51
Speaker 2: doing the best he can. But he's in over his
20:53
Speaker 2: head right now, and you're in a playoff chase, and
20:58
Speaker 2: so what you're thrown out there? You know, early in
21:00
Speaker 2: the game, there's another decision, people saying should should swing
21:02
Speaker 2: you a bunted you get a guy to third and
21:05
Speaker 2: then would have hit a sack fly would have brought
21:07
Speaker 2: in another run. I'm not a big bunting guy, but
21:11
Speaker 2: I'm not going to out the person who told me this.
21:13
Speaker 2: But someone said, with that guy up, I would bought
21:16
Speaker 2: the first inning, I'd bought the second inning, I'd bought
21:18
Speaker 2: the third inning. I've bought the eighth inning, I'd bet
21:20
Speaker 2: the ninth. Like he hit a ground ball, get the
21:25
Speaker 2: guy over.
21:27
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I've always I'm more inclined to the
21:31
Speaker 1: strategic bunt than you are. And of course, ironically later
21:35
Speaker 1: in the game we saw what.
21:39
Speaker 2: Unleashed.
21:40
Speaker 1: But but I am of the opinion that, look, if
21:43
Speaker 1: this guy has a five w r C plus, uh,
21:46
Speaker 1: you could do worse than than movie on a runner over.
21:48
Speaker 1: And and also like in terms of the weirdness of
21:51
Speaker 1: the game, uh, Wentzel Again, it turned out not to matter.
21:55
Speaker 1: But Wentzel just completely botching that read on a fly
21:58
Speaker 1: ball at the center Uh, you know, he you surely
22:02
Speaker 1: could have gotten to third base or at least like
22:05
Speaker 1: put him.
22:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he could have got to third.
22:08
Speaker 1: Because that ball, I mean, especially with that wall there,
22:10
Speaker 1: that ball was not going to carry the wall. Uh
22:13
Speaker 1: So again it didn't end up mattering, but it you know,
22:17
Speaker 1: it was again, Well, there's like little small things. I
22:19
Speaker 1: was I'm making note of all the small things, Cody,
22:22
Speaker 1: because all the small things right now are are adding
22:25
Speaker 1: up to to one big, one big thing. So now
22:30
Speaker 1: now looking forward, you got a big game, Jack, big game,
22:35
Speaker 1: Jack Flaherty and Casey Mayes are your are your saving graces?
22:39
Speaker 1: And or excuse me?
22:41
Speaker 2: Uh?
22:41
Speaker 1: And and and a Montero combination with with with uh
22:45
Speaker 1: we didn't.
22:45
Speaker 2: Even talk about this last episode. Who's pitching Saturday? Like like,
22:51
Speaker 2: you're using Peter Montero, and you better hope that game
22:54
Speaker 2: goes well because if not, you're using everybody else too.
22:58
Speaker 2: And you Mayes flayered, like, are you going to have
23:01
Speaker 2: enough arms to get you through the rest of the
23:04
Speaker 2: regular season? Better hope Troy Maltain's fresh for three or four,
23:09
Speaker 2: Like you better We don't even know who's pitching Saturday,
23:13
Speaker 2: and this isn't quite like last year, where they're set
23:15
Speaker 2: up to do kind of the chaos thing, neatly knowing
23:19
Speaker 2: who the bulk guy is going to be every day.
23:21
Speaker 2: They're not in that situation, and you don't have a
23:24
Speaker 2: lot of dependability necessarily in Flairty or Mize if they
23:28
Speaker 2: have a shorter outing. I don't know.
23:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're it's technically not do or die
23:39
Speaker 1: every day, but it's but it might as well be right.
23:43
Speaker 1: And so this whole like you know, play to win
23:45
Speaker 1: today thing is, you know, could very well be tested
23:51
Speaker 1: because like your margin for air was pretty damn thin
23:55
Speaker 1: and now it doesn't exist. The margin of air just
23:58
Speaker 1: does not exist.
23:59
Speaker 2: So, you know who, I want to give a shout
24:01
Speaker 2: out to the shout out to Jack Flerty. I think
24:04
Speaker 2: he showed a little leadership. Maybe Flerity walked in the
24:07
Speaker 2: clubhouse in Cleveland and he said, media don't talk to
24:11
Speaker 2: the young guys. I don't know exactly why I said that.
24:15
Speaker 2: I can't say for sure what his motive was, but
24:18
Speaker 2: best I can come up with as he's like, he
24:20
Speaker 2: just didn't want, you know, reporters asking the younger guys
24:24
Speaker 2: on the team about the losing streak maybe that's something
24:27
Speaker 2: the veteran guys should be talking about. They don't have
24:29
Speaker 2: that many veterans. Jack Flaerty's one of them. So we
24:33
Speaker 2: went over and we talked to Jack Flaherty, and I
24:36
Speaker 2: don't know if that was anything, or maybe there was
24:37
Speaker 2: some other weird reason he was saying that, but I
24:40
Speaker 2: kind of took it as a subtle sign of flarity,
24:42
Speaker 2: show him some leadership in a tough time.
24:46
Speaker 1: In a world where you're just scratching, inclined to find
24:50
Speaker 1: anything that could resemble a good omen. That's that's that's
24:54
Speaker 1: as good as that's as good as we're gonna find
24:57
Speaker 1: right right now. And and yeah, that's you're out of
25:07
Speaker 1: character right now with the way that you're playing. So
25:11
Speaker 1: maybe something like that, which correct me if I'm wrong.
25:13
Speaker 1: It's pretty out of character for Jack Flaherty today.
25:16
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have expected him to be the guy to
25:18
Speaker 2: do so.
25:19
Speaker 1: So, like, maybe if you're just trying to bust the
25:25
Speaker 1: status quo, which is the seven game loving streak, and
25:28
Speaker 1: now now you've lost a division lead, that's as good
25:32
Speaker 1: as anything, so you can cling and hope to that
25:35
Speaker 1: and see what happens here the rest of the series.
25:38
Speaker 4: Anything else, Cody before we Chad here.
25:41
Speaker 2: I feel like we're forgiving something. I'm sure there are
25:43
Speaker 2: more things we could complain about from that game, but
25:47
Speaker 2: I'm not sure anyone actually wants to relive it anymore.
25:52
Speaker 2: You gotta get good, you gotta get up it. It's
25:53
Speaker 2: hard to have him. The Tigers do not lead the
25:56
Speaker 2: Ale Central. They are tied for the top. They do
25:58
Speaker 2: not hold the tiebreaker. There are five games left. Remember
26:02
Speaker 2: back when I used to say I don't think there's
26:04
Speaker 2: a ninety win version of this team. I backed off that.
26:09
Speaker 2: I backed off that once. They were the best team
26:11
Speaker 2: in baseball. So yeah, maybe maybe I never should have
26:15
Speaker 2: backed off it because they might not win ninety games
26:18
Speaker 2: despite having just an incredible first half.
26:22
Speaker 1: Well again, I'll copy the ajaism. You know, we've earned
26:25
Speaker 1: the right to Xville. They've definitely earned this. This blowing
26:29
Speaker 1: this division. There's there's no there's no doubt about that.
26:33
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