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JFK Book Reviews - The Search For Lee Harvey Oswald · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to JFK Book Reviews, a division of the
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  Speaker 2: Lone Guman Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I am Big, Bad Bob.
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  Speaker 2: My shirt matches my grip tape on the skateboards. Evening
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  Speaker 2: feeling good, and tonight we're gonna be reviewing the book
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  Speaker 2: The Search for Lee Harvey Oswald by Robert Grodin. I'm
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  Speaker 2: about to back this bad boy up because it's big.
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  Speaker 2: She ain't very thick, but she big twenty by twenty
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  Speaker 2: by twenty inches. It's a big old square. Now there's
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  Speaker 2: a reason it doesn't feel very thick. There's two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and seventy two pages here, but it is printed on.
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  Speaker 1: Glossy paper.
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  Speaker 2: And it was published in nineteen ninety five by.
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  Speaker 1: The Penguin Books.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, this is authored by Robert Groden, in case
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  Speaker 2: I forgot to mention that, with an introduction by Cyril
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  Speaker 2: weckt MD, A comprehensive photographic record. And what I like
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  Speaker 2: about Robert Groden's books is the fact that they are designed.
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  Speaker 1: To be very large, coffee table like books. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's not and it's not just pictures.
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  Speaker 2: There's twenty chapters in here dealing with all aspects of
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  Speaker 2: Oswald's life, starting from his childhood to his death, and
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  Speaker 2: there's a photographic record of all of it in here.
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  Speaker 2: So and this is literally the most comprehensive photographic record
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  Speaker 2: I've ever seen of Lee Harvey Oswald's life. So again,
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  Speaker 2: it starts off with his childhood and there's a little
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  Speaker 2: baby picture of Lee Harvey appall. And you know it's
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  Speaker 2: not just pictures. He gives you a lot of background
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  Speaker 2: to go with it. Again, twenty chapters through some of
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  Speaker 2: the biggest aspects of Oswald's life. Now, what I like
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  Speaker 2: about this book, aside from it being a big coffee
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  Speaker 2: table book chock full of glossy photographs black and white color,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of photographs in here that you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to see anywhere else. This was published in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: ninety five, kind of pre Internet, and just from talking
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  Speaker 2: to folks like Ken Zedeker and Alex Harris, who's actually
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  Speaker 2: had the opportunity to visit excuse me, Robert gruten Poem
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  Speaker 2: and his vast array of storage units. This guy has
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  Speaker 2: been around since the early seventies and interested in the
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  Speaker 2: case before that, so probably late sixties. He was able
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  Speaker 2: to get onto the photographic panel of the HSCA.
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  Speaker 1: And do a lot of work there.
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  Speaker 2: Obtained a lot of photographs from them, likely copies of
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  Speaker 2: the Zapruiter film.
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  Speaker 1: Things like that.
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  Speaker 2: I believe he got copies of a lot of different
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  Speaker 2: movies over the years. And he's he's a collector, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he's a collector of a lot of very good, very
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  Speaker 2: clear photographs. And a lot of the photographs that he
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  Speaker 2: that he you know, has, you know, including the Cruiter film.
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  Speaker 2: He helped colorize that, stabilize it, make it a better
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  Speaker 2: looking image. And he's a skilled photographic expert. And you
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  Speaker 2: know this book, the other one he did, The Killing
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  Speaker 2: of a President, and Absolute Proof are all big, glossy,
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  Speaker 2: coffee table like books. And this is reflected in the price.
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  Speaker 2: Believe me when I tell you I looked this thing
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  Speaker 2: up on Amazon linking the description and I said, God damn,
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty two dollars for a brand new
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  Speaker 2: hardcover copy of this book. Now I'm about to make
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  Speaker 2: some of y'all really sick. So on one of my
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  Speaker 2: earlier ramblings, I went on a trip to a bookstore
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  Speaker 2: in Frederick that I used to frequent a lot, and
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  Speaker 2: that was probably the first time that i'd been here
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  Speaker 2: in eight years, but I was able to get this
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  Speaker 2: book from that bookstore for seven dollars and ninety five cents.
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  Speaker 2: Seven dollars and ninety five cents. That's crazy. Now this
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  Speaker 2: thing is on Amazon for one hundred and eighty two.
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  Speaker 2: But don't fret, people, you don't have to buy a
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  Speaker 2: brand new copy.
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  Speaker 1: There are other copies on here.
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  Speaker 2: For as low as twenty dollars for a good copy used.
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  Speaker 2: There's one for sixteen, a couple for twenty, a couple
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  Speaker 2: for sixteen, twenty four, twenty six, a used very good
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  Speaker 2: copy for twenty eight twenty nine thirty one dollars for
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  Speaker 2: a very good copy. So there's lots of used copies
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  Speaker 2: on here for a reasonable price. And you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you are a serious researcher into this case and you
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  Speaker 2: don't have any books by Robert Grodin, what are you doing.
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  Speaker 1: Again?
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  Speaker 2: This guy's had access to a lot of photographs that
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  Speaker 2: people have never seen before, and this book is no different.
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  Speaker 2: This book is no different. And I was just flipping through,
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  Speaker 2: perusing because it's been a while since I cracked this bitch.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I'm looking through here and I see
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of photos that I hadn't seen before. There's
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  Speaker 2: photos of there's a photo of Bule Frasier in here
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen before. There's crime scene photos I've never
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  Speaker 2: seen before. There's suspect photos I've never seen before. There's
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  Speaker 2: a photo of Selso Hernandez, who was in the street
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  Speaker 2: fracas with Carlos Brinia and Oswald in there. There's a
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  Speaker 2: picture of Lawrence Howard in there I've never seen before.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I could sit here and go on and
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  Speaker 2: on and on.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The reason I wanted to do this book tonight is
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  Speaker 2: because there's some images in here that pertained what we
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  Speaker 2: were talking about this past Friday night, when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to Jack Ruby and the basement and the shooting of
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  Speaker 2: Ozwald and things like that. And we'll be talking more
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  Speaker 2: about that Wednesday night on members only for part two,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll be showing you some things from.
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  Speaker 1: The book about that as well.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's a photo in there allegedly of Jack Ruby
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  Speaker 2: immediately after the shots and Dally Plaza up on the grassy. No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, ah, there's all kinds of stuff in this book.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of.
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  Speaker 2: Really anything bad to say about this book, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: Robert Gruden has been one of them guys. It's you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's always in Daly Plaza. He's always available, he's you know,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't mind talking to the folks. Yes, he sells
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  Speaker 2: his wares there. But you know, trust me when I
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  Speaker 2: tell you these books are worth the price. For sure.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're big, they're beautiful, they're bold. Uh just for
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  Speaker 2: the pictures alone, worth the price of admission. You also
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  Speaker 2: get a lot of commentary about these photographs. There's there's
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  Speaker 2: one in there of Marina and and Ruth Payne that
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  Speaker 2: I'd never seen before. Uh, you know, different angles of
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  Speaker 2: the rooming house and and things like this, and Earle
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  Speaker 2: and Roberts view of the bus stop. It's at the
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  Speaker 2: corner of Zangs from from her living room window.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's just a ton a ton a
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  Speaker 1: ton a ton of stuff in here.
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  Speaker 2: And I just can't tell you how invaluable this is.
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  Speaker 2: And this book mainly just focuses on Lee Harvey Oswall's life.
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  Speaker 2: Now his first book, The Killing of a President. You know,
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  Speaker 2: of course it's gonna take us, you know, from.
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  Speaker 1: Love Field.
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  Speaker 2: All the way through to Parkland and uh, things like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know he's gonna take us through Dale Plasti, he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna take us through all the films and photos from
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  Speaker 2: the assassination itself, And of course he touches on Oswald
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  Speaker 2: and that as well. But this book goes super, super
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  Speaker 2: in depth. And there was a page in here, and
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  Speaker 2: this is before Harvey and Lee came out, where there
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  Speaker 2: is just a epic.
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  Speaker 1: F ton.
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  Speaker 2: Of Lee Harvey Oswald photos throughout his life.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's one of this page.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at this.
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  Speaker 1: This is the kind of stuff you're gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Find in this book, the evolution of Lee Harvey Oswald.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, did you did you know that there was
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  Speaker 2: this many photos of Oswald?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look at this. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And of course he starts talking about too many Oswalds.
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  Speaker 1: He does go.
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  Speaker 2: Into speculating about things like that. Now, again, I think
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  Speaker 2: we should listen to what Robert Grodin has to say
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  Speaker 2: about things. Having been around the case for so long,
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  Speaker 2: he's instrumental and getting the Zapruder film on national television
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  Speaker 2: and being the catalyst for the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
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  Speaker 2: If he hadn't shown that film, we likely would have
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  Speaker 2: never gotten the HSCA, So he deserved to be on
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  Speaker 2: the photographic panel there. And you know his work restoring
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  Speaker 2: and stabilizing and colorizing the Zapruder film. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: just amazing stuff. So with that being said, and for
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  Speaker 2: what it is, I would say that I, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: if you're a serious researcher, you need this book in
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  Speaker 2: your collection. And I'm happy I got one for very
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  Speaker 2: cheap many moons ago. But even still, I wouldn't pay
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty two dollars for one, but I
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  Speaker 2: could part with twenty or thirty bucks for a very
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  Speaker 2: good used copy, which is basically what I have here,
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  Speaker 2: a very good used copy. There's some stains on there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, but all in all,
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty good. You know, the spine's in good shape,
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  Speaker 2: the cover's in good shape. There's no rips or tears.
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  Speaker 2: There's pictures that appear to show Clay Shaw on the
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  Speaker 2: street behind Lee Oswald as he's handing out pamphlets in
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  Speaker 2: New Orleans in front of the trademark.
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  Speaker 1: It goes into Clinton and Jackson, and.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, New Orleans to Dallas, all aspects of
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  Speaker 2: Oswald's life are in this book in photographic form, and.
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  Speaker 1: I love having it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it always trips me out to see new
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  Speaker 2: pictures and things that I've never seen before, because I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I've seen everything. But if you go look
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  Speaker 2: at Robert Gordon book, there's definitely gonna be stuff in.
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  Speaker 1: There that you've never seen before.
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  Speaker 2: So with that being said, for what it is, and
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  Speaker 2: the balls that this guy had to stand up to
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  Speaker 2: the city for all these years and do what he
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  Speaker 2: does and do it on his own, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this guy's like selling shit out of his trunk, you know,
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  Speaker 2: which is like very old school approach, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to put his book in Barnes and
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  Speaker 2: Noble or whatever. Did you know, a big distribution deal?
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  Speaker 2: These books are too big, too expensive, too beautiful too
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  Speaker 2: they cost a lot to print, so the price is
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  Speaker 2: justified and he deserves what he gets when he sells
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  Speaker 2: his wares. I think Absolute Proof is on Amazon for
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  Speaker 2: one hundred bucks, and you know that's a new copy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any used copies up there for cheaper,
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  Speaker 2: much cheaper than that. But I'm gonna give this book
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  Speaker 2: a solid nine out of ten guns up. I thoroughly
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed it. I love owning it. I like looking at it,
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  Speaker 2: and like I said, we're going to be looking at
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  Speaker 2: some stuff from it here on Wednesday night for the
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  Speaker 2: members only show, because there's some interesting things in here. Now,
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  Speaker 2: does he get everything right in this book?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: I mean the book is over thirty years old. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of old school conspiracy speculations in
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  Speaker 2: here that have been somewhat debunked over the years. But
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  Speaker 2: again this is pre ARRB, this is pre the New Files.
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  Speaker 2: But you can't beat the quality of the book, the
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  Speaker 2: quality of the photographs in the book. They are very clear,
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  Speaker 2: they are very big, That's what she said. And I
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  Speaker 2: really enjoy this book. Like if you leave this out
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  Speaker 2: on your coffee table, people will pick it up and
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  Speaker 2: look at it for sure, you know, as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: a little, tiny paperback book with no pictures in it.
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  Speaker 2: This is the perfect combination of a visual representation of
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  Speaker 2: who Lee Harvey Oswald was, what Lee Harvey Oswald was
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  Speaker 2: doing through every step of his life to his death,
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  Speaker 2: and nobody's ever done it like this before or since.
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  Speaker 2: So I am more than happy giving it a nine
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  Speaker 2: out of ten guns up. I highly recommend if you're
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  Speaker 2: a serious researcher, to grab yourself a copy, get that
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  Speaker 2: shit on your coffee table, and maybe it'll spark up
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  Speaker 2: a conversation when friends come over and like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: What's this? Oh you don't want to look at that?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, let me see. Oh oh oh wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute, Wow, this is really cool. I didn't know this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know, it's one of those type books. So
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  Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoy it. I highly recommend it. So go
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  Speaker 2: get you some, Go get you some. Anyway that's gonna
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  Speaker 2: do it. For JFK Book Reviews a division of the
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  Speaker 2: Longoming Podcast. And if you like this book review and
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  Speaker 2: you want to hear more, we do a live show
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  Speaker 2: every Friday night at seven pm Eastern streams live here
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube. We also do a show on Wednesday night,
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  Speaker 2: seven pm live for our channel members. Also, you can
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  Speaker 2: listen to the podcast audibly wherever good podcast, or listen
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  Speaker 2: to audibly, not visually, but audibly here. It's always going
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  Speaker 2: to be visual. So yeah, you know, if there's something
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  Speaker 2: like this sparks your interest, check it out. You won't
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  Speaker 2: regret it, trust me, just don't pay one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: eighty two dollars for it. Okay, don't do that. That's
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  Speaker 2: crazy talk. Crazy talk anyway, that's going to do it
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  Speaker 2: for me. Hope you enjoyed it. Thanks for hanging out
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  Speaker 2: with me, and we'll see you next time. Right here
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  Speaker 2: on JFK Book Reviews, a division of the incoming podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Until next time, folks, Papa
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  Speaker 1: Peace, m