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12/14/2023 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Commissioner Ben Salango and Delegate Mike Pushkin · The Dave Allen Show

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to him about that coming up a little bit later on in the show,
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and several items I want to get into as far as the news department goes,
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We'll have more on that coming up a little bit later. Ronald, Welcome
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into the show. Kennaw County Commissioner Ben Selango, Good morning, sir,
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how are you? Good morning? Well, I just learned something about you
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and you and I've known each other for a number of years. But I
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had no idea that you also suffer from the sickness known as being a Dallas
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Cowboy fan. It's a least lot of sickness. I did not know that.
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Now. My story goes back to the seventy seven season and the seventy
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eighth Super Bowl where the Cowboys beat the Broncos. I chose the Cowboys because
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I liked the star and the helmet. That's why I chose. And I've
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been an obsessive fan ever since. I have been an obsessive fan since the
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nineteen seventies. So the truth is, so my dad was a Browns fan,
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and that made my older brother naturally a Pittsburgh Steelers fan because they didn't
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want to like the same team, so they wanted to a post each other.
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And then I had to pick a different team, and the Steelers and
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the Cowboys. The battles from the seventies were epic, so I picked the
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Cowboys. You know, Roger Staubach, oh, I can name drop with
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you, man, oh Man, I'm telling you all the way back to
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I think seventy I think seventy six was the first. So I was I
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was three years old, and I remember, you know, just wanting Cowboys
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gear. So yeah, no, Cowboy nothing changed, nothing, nothing has
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changed. Guarantee you that for Christmas or Birthdays or whatever, I'm going to
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get stuff with a star on it or Marshall logo. That's pretty much what
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I get. Proudly. Yeah, and I do, and I do.
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And after last Saturday or a Sunday, I should say we're Philadelphia. Yeah,
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we're definitely. There was a lot of trash talk for that game.
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We should got Jared page At he's a listener to this show. Yeah,
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so Joe, Jared, how about them? Cabo? Sorry about that,
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Jared. Since we are talking sports, I want to I want to talk
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a little bit about about sports here in the Canal Valley, and I got
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a couple of things I want to talk to you about as well. But
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let's talk about what's been going on with the sports complexes and what is the
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latest with the proposed Capital Sports Complex. So the Capital Sports Complex is moving
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along, you know, I mentioned this on the news the other day.
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On a scale of one to ten, the Shawnee Sports Complex as far as
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design construction, you know, completion was a two out of ten. I
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mean, we own the property. It was done by one entity. It
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wasn't that complicated. You know, ZMM did the architecture on it and did
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a great job. There's so many moving parts with the Capital Sports Complex.
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It makes it It makes it more difficult. It just makes it more of
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a challenge. I mean, you've got two different entities, You've got ownership
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interests with other entities, and it's very complicated. But we're moving through all
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that. So where we are now, we have a board in place.
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Obviously, we have the architects in place, we have an owner's rep in
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place. We put out a request for bids for the banking. Of course,
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everything you do, you have to put out the bids for I suspect
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we'll receive a lot of bids, and then we're going to look at additional
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financing, whether we can get some more support from the US Senators Center.
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Manson's already pledged significant support, and I think we'll be able to get even
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some more, and then whatever's left over the city in the county will split
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fifty to fifty. So I think we're going to have Over the next year,
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the architects will complete the drawings and hopefully we'll put a shovel in the
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ground about a year from now, talk about the year that was twenty twenty
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three as far as sports in general in the Kanal Valley out at Shawnee or
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different places. Let's kind of put a little bow on that, so to
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speak about what kind of year it was. You know, the Shawne Sports
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Complex had an amazing year. You know, we've got USU soccer which is
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coming in and brought in about between thirty and forty million dollars in economic impact.
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You know, when those tournaments come to town, you see it.
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You see it within a three hour radius of the complex, and quite frank
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that the tournaments are so big that Shawnee can't handle them. Alert you have
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to. You know, our friends in Barbersville and they've done some amazing upgrades.
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I've got Chris Tatum. He's going to do the mayor Monday second,
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but next week. Chris is doing great things down there. Chris, he
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really is, and he gets it. He gets it. So they invested
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in some turf fields and Barbersville and so they're really good partners. We team
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up together, particularly on the larger tournaments you're talking about, you know,
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two and fifty teen tournaments. So it's it's bringing in a lot of money.
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It's doing exactly what it's supposed to do. You know, the locals
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can play there during the week, well, you can practice, we can
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have games, and not just not just soccer. I mean we had a
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big football tournament there last week, brought in you know, thousands of people.
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So it's it's it's good. Everything's going very well down there. And
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I think sports in general, particularly travel sports, Kanawa County was uh was
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very smart to get in the game. The city of Charleston is very smart
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to get in the game because it brings in a lot of money. You
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know, anytime you can bring Ohio and North Carolina and Virginia dollars in town,
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you want to do that. People are spending their money here. They're
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getting the hotel rooms and buying gas and eating at the restaurants and all.
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You gotta just go down and ask the restaurant owners, you know, during
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a tournament, you know, how was it, And I will tell you
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that that overwhelming. They will say we had record weekends. You know when
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Then you wanted to talk about VOAD, that is the West Virginia Voluntary
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Organizations active in disaster. What is a story there? So you know there
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was a lot going on with VOAD over the last few weeks and the Commission
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we had awarded fifty thousand dollars to VOEAD to fixed bridges in the Upper Canal
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Valley after the flood. You know, VOAD was was instrumental in helping the
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folks up there. We had awarded fifty grand in in bridge repair because you
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have a lot of and I'm not talking about like federal bridges or state owned
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bridges. We're talking about these private bridges that people have that cross creeks and
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those get washed out, and quite frankly, people can't get to their home.
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So we had set aside fifty thousand to do that. Voe had to
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reach out to us about using that money for a different purpose, and we
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simply inquired, well, what purpose do you want to use it for?
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I mean, as long as it's for flood victims, I quite frankly,
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I don't care. As long as it goes to people of Upper Kanav Valley,
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the flood victims, it wouldn't matter. But they wouldn't respond. They
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said, well, we're you know, we're not going to tell you.
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I said, I, why don't you come in in a public meeting and
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tell us? And then I believe from their standpoint, they believe that a
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miscommunication occurred. But you know, what we heard, and apparently what the
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governor's office heard was there was an active federal investigation. So we were reluctant
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to leave that fifty thousand dollars out there since they couldn't come in and explain
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it in a public meeting. And I had conversation with Boaz lawyers. After
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the vote, I mean, the Commission voted unanimously to rescind the letter of
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intent awarding the fifty thousand dollars for good reasons. I mean, can you
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imagine we gave fifty thousand dollars and then all of a sudden, there's an
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issue with regard to federal investigation or some indictment, and you know, that
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money is gone. That would be hard to explain. Probably have me on
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this program and be asking for some answers which I probably could not provide.
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Oh yeah, sure. So what we did was we broke the letter of
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intent. Now that is not to say that we're walking away from flood victims.
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I mean, if there's things that people need, we're going to do
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it. But just that specific issue, you know, it raised some red
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flags that they wouldn't come into a public meeting and tell us what they wanted.
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Now, they didn't have any trouble going on media. I mean they
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were on TV, and they were on radio, and they you know,
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did interviews, but for some reason they wouldn't come in and talk to the
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commission. So you know, I stand by my decision. I stand by
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the motion that I made to revoke that fifty thousand. I did talk to
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VO as lawyer, a lawyer that I respect and trust, and he assured
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me that there's no active investigation. So I hope that's true, and I
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hope we can get these things ironed out. But just based on the information
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that we had at the time, we made the right decision. I want
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to ask you about this, and I know there's not a whole lot that
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you can probably say at this point, but we had been told that you
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know, this investigation continues into one of your fellow commissioners, Kent Carper,
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and grand jury is meeting. There have been media reports that said that there
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could be some some news break in that aspect. In that regard, as
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it pertains to Commissioner Carper, everybody's innocentil proven guilty, we do know that,
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but are some pretty serious allegations. Is there anything that you know of
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that you can say at this point, Well, honestly, not much.
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You know, a grand jury is very different than a typical jury. A
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grand jury just sits and here's evidence from one side, the prosecutor, for
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instance, they'll call witness or their present documents, and then the grand jury
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determines whether or not there's an indictment should be issued. And again, I
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don't practice criminal law, So you know, I'm just speaking based upon probably
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amateurish knowledge if anything else. But I do practice civil law, and I
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can tell you what a regular jury does, which is where you hear from
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both sides. So I do know that there's a grand jury investigate. I
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do know that one or more County employees were subpoened to testify in a grand
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jury. I do not know the status of the grand jury investigation, whether
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it has concluded, whether it will continue. I have no idea. In
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fact, probably the information I'm getting, more than anywhere else, is just
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from the media because they were staked out in front of the courthouse yesterday and
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maybe even the day before. So I don't have a lot of information on
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it. Grand jury proceedings unlike like a civil jury, they're confidential, you
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know, so you can't the media can't go in and watch. Witnesses aren't
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allowed or should not talk about what they testified to in a grand jury.
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Now I guess who is subpoened depending on certain things. You know whether or
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not that is public information. But otherwise there's just not a lot you can
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find out until there is or is not an indictment, and then I guess
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the indictment is released or unsealed or released. But at this point, I
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am not aware of any indictment. I'm not aware of any anything other than
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a grand jury investigation. Can I ask if I if you were subpoena or
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is that something you'd rather not say or or were you or I'll let you
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have that over you or Commission Wheeler for that matter. Well, you know,
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there was a news report on a couple of the subpoenas that were issued.
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Whether or not someone is subpoena, I don't know if that's confidential or
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not, okay, but but I will tell you that. You know,
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if I get a subpoena to testify, you know, it's not like I'm
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just gonna throw it in the trash and not go. You would know better
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than that, And well, that would be that would be foolish. Yeah,
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that would be very foolish. So you know, at some point we'll
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see. But you know, right now, I don't know the status of
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of what's going on. I know that there was something, there was a
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there was a the grand jury did convene at least yesterday, because I know
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that some of at least one or perhaps more of our employees were we're over
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there yesterday, but I don't know what they said, don't know what questions
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were asked, anything like that. So you know, basically I can just
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say that, yeah, there's something going on, but I don't know what
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it is. Okay, nine to twenty one. I mean I got a
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couple test before we let you go Texas. Not sure who gets the credit,
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but nice to see new hotels going into Dunbar in the shuttered Best America
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space. Yeah, yeah, no that anytime we can get new hotels,
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that's great. I mean we definitely need them. And one of the things
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that we have to show, like if we're bidding a big tournament, is
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our capacity, our hotel capacity, how many rooms we have. And that
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has been a real problem for us over the years. When we're bidding on
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a two hundred and fifty teen tournament and we don't have the hotel capacity and
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people have to stay an hour and a half away. Yeah, you know,
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they really get upset about the count surely. So you know, it's
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great. The more hotels that we get, the better off we're going to
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be. And not just for sports tourism. I mean we need them for
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business. We need them for you know, various things, so people can
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come in and stay here. But yeah, the more hotel els the better.
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For sure, Texas Selango for you a senate, he needs to run.
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I think I I think I I think I did that once on the
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Governor's Race. I watched that story. I'm not gonna watch that movie again.
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Man, Oh, come on, now, you're not done yet.
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You're not done yet. No, you know that's it's funny. Even though
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Jim Justice beat me like a rented mule, it was. It was fun.
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I had a really good time. I mean it was. It's not
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something I regret for sure, getting out and seeing different parts of the state
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quite frankly, parts that I had not seen before, meeting people, uh
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that I'm still in touch with now. You know, it's now been you
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know, a couple of years. I'm still in touch with him now.
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It's a It was really a good experience for me. Now, my family
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didn't like it so much, but I had a great time. Have Fiel
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and you're gonna run it again for something that just speculations on my part.
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I think I don't think you're I don't think you're gonna retire as Knaw ant
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Commissioner. I think you'll be running for something something. I'm enjoying the commission,
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I really do, but it's one day at a time. We got
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we got a good crew over there, we got great And you're a young
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guy too, am I though. Yeah, well you're younger than I am.
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So all right, Texas, Why is the knawk Heady commission contemplate to
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give you money to voe AD when their former cfo embezzled eight hundred and seventy
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thousand dollars in federal and state money. No money to voe AD without external
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audits and controls. Yeah, and I know there are audits going on right
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now, but no, I appreciate that text. That's something that we looked
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into, and that's why we did not hand the money over to them.
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It was actually a letter of intent, and any check written on the letter
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of intent would come from us, and so it would be used for a
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proper purpose. And that's why it kind of raised a red flag when they
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wanted to change, you know, the intent of the fifty thousand dollars grant,
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and that's why we wanted to come in and explain it in public.
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Keep in mind, every dollar we award. And this is not just this
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is not just some you know, this is true. And every dollar we
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award is done in a public meeting, absolute transparency. Doesn't matter what it
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is, it's all it's all on our agenda, and it's all done in
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public. There's no back room meetings, you know, awarding money, nothing
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like that. It's all done in public meaning. And so when we gave
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voe ad the fifty grand for bridges in the flooded areas of the upperknov Valley,
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we wanted to make sure that if it was changed, if the intent
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was changed, it was also done in a public meaning, because imagine again,
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what would happen if we went in the back room and changed that and
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then all of a sudden the money disappeared. So that's what raised the red
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flag. And again I am aware of voad's previous issue. I know that
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there's some investigation into one of its executives or CFO or whoever it may be.
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But you also got to help the people when there's a flood, you
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know, so you're kind of in a tight spot. You got to make
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sure you help people, but you also got to keep in mind that there
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was that issue that they had, and so that's why we did a letter
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of intent as opposed to just writing them a check for fifty grand. Okay,
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Kennan County Commissioner Ben Selango, It's always a pleasure to have you on
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the show. Go Cowboys, Hey go Cowboys. Let's go and hope you
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and your family have a very happy and safe Christmas season and a happy new
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Year. We'll talk again in the new year. Thanks lie Man. Merry
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Christmas. All right, Ben Selango to day Ilands Show on five eighty nine,
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all right, and then I promise I'll let you go. Please ask Commissioner
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Selango about the complications involving the town Center parking building where the sports complex is
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supposed to go. Unless it's been resolved. You are clearly side stepping what
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a major complication this says with the project. So go ahead and then what
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promise we'll let you go? Well, there are complications. You nailed that.
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I mean, that's and that's one of the moving parts that I was
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talking about. But we're not sidestepping any anything because I think there are alternative
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designs that we can put forward that may not involve the parking garages. So
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I'll just hang that out there and let you let you chew on it for
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a little while. All right, all right, you can really go this
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Raekwon Battle story unfolding the court. Greg Carey with a lead story this morning
23:27
at wv Metronews dot com. In Wheeling. Yesterday, District Judge John Preston
23:32
Bailey issued a fourteen day temporary restraining order against the NC DOUBLEA, allowing undergraduate
23:37
athletes in college that have transferred multiple times be allowed to play immediately. Now
23:45
the overall case is listed as Ohio versus the NC DOUBLEA. Seven attorneys general
23:51
are involved in the case, including our own Attorney General, Patrick Morrissey.
23:56
Now there's next going to be a hearing on the straining order on December twenty
24:02
seventh in Wheeling, where, according to Greg Carey's story again listen to website,
24:07
a more permanent ruling is expected at that time. Now, ray Kwon
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Battle is a fifth year basketball player for WVU and hasn't gotten to play yet
24:15
this season. The opposition in the case is being led by Charleston based attorney
24:21
Ben Bailey, who is fighting on behalf of the NCAA. Now why is
24:25
all this important to this show? Well, because, as I said earlier,
24:30
there are several attorneys general involved in this case, including our own Patrick
24:36
Morrissey, who also is a candidate for governor. So in a week where
24:41
Secretary of States and goubernatorial candidate Mac Warner seems to be getting all the headlines,
24:48
now the front runner in the race, Attorney General Patrick Morrissey, is
24:52
getting so Now, to be fair, I mean, Patrick Morrissey's worked on
24:56
cases like this in the past, but it can't hurt. It's what we
24:57
call earned media, and Patrick Morrissey has never been one who had a hard
25:03
time finding a camera or finding a way to make it onto the front pages
25:07
or on the air somewhere, including on this show and others. And while
25:12
I'm talking about goubernatorial candidates, want to mention this, one week from the
25:15
day, delegate and republic candidate for governor more Capito will be on the show.
25:21
So Patrick Morrissey is getting getting some airtime right now on this and again
25:26
in a week where everything's been about Mac Warner since the gubernatorial discussion debate.
25:33
Whatever you want to call it last Thursday Night in Morgantown. So now I
25:38
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available, of course, following the death of Judge Joanna Tabot. Jeff Jenkins
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It was unavailable business attend too, but he is going to be on the
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and Justice Senior Advisor Larry Pack to take Dave Hardy spot as Revenue Secretary,
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and Larry Pack will be on the show on Monday. All the big names
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come in here. Now back to Dave Hardy for a moment. He announced
27:30
on this show not long ago that he would be running for the circuit judge
27:37
ship, so now he'll have experience in putting the robe on early because he
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again was appointed by the governor yesterday and he will run for that office starting
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since the Sons of Liberty carried out the Boston Tea Party as a Texter delegate
31:27
State Democratic Party Share Mike Pushkins here me, ma'am. How are you.
31:30
I'm a little cold. It's a lott cold in here. Yeah, we're
31:33
we're suffering from a lack of heats on this part of the building. Not
31:37
only here, but the parts are ordered well. Unfortunately, I got quite
31:41
used to not having heat there for a while going about. Should be right
31:45
at home in here. I feel right at home build like the West Side.
31:49
Although most of most of us over there have been reconnected and have our
31:53
appliance is fixed by now ex there are unfortunately still a few few folks who
31:59
have not been made fully whole yet, but hopefully that's coming soon. I
32:02
wanted to talk about interims. Of course, they were held this past week,
32:06
wrapped up, I guess on Tuesday, is that right? The highlight,
32:08
I guess from a media perspective would be the heads of Mountaineer Gas and
32:14
West Virginian American Water speaking in front of the committee. Now I understand and
32:19
correct me if I'm wrong. You were not part of the committee, but
32:21
you were allowed to take part in it because of the situation, because you
32:23
were one of the ones affected. Right, Well, I was one of
32:25
the ones affected, I think. I think the only member of the legislature
32:30
who who was affected by it, I think. But either way, I
32:34
was the one that called for the hearing, right and in doing so,
32:36
I called the the respective chairs of the of the Joint Committee so you have
32:40
a house chair and a Senate chair, you know house chairs Daniel Lynnville Senate
32:45
Senate chairs Ben Queen from up in Clarksburg. I got in touch with them
32:49
before I did it. It wasn't, you know, blind siding anybody,
32:51
because I really wanted to have the hearing and they were cooperative. I really
32:54
appreciate that. And then the chair who was presiding on that day was Senator
33:00
Queen, recognized me first for some for for some questions, and what I
33:05
was really, you know, pleasantly surprised by is that delegates and senators from
33:09
all over the state were very interested and had some great questions, and there
33:14
were it wasn't just me asking questions as a resident of the West Side,
33:16
people from all over the state because they know it can happen where they live
33:20
as well where we have, you know, unfortunately very old infrastructure and some
33:24
issues with with utilities. Let's face it. Were you satisfied with the answers
33:30
that you got from Mountaineer Gas and what's Rugian American water? No, not
33:35
at all. But we did get some good answers. But I didn't expect
33:37
any major admissions of guilty when they're you know, there's a class action suit
33:42
and they were most likely suing each other. But it was we did get
33:45
a lot of information. It was very informative. It was very productive.
33:50
You know about the age of the of the pipes, you know, the
33:53
water the water main, which was they said it was both a transmission and
33:59
a distribute line, so high pressure. I mean that the pressure on that
34:04
on a on a transmission line is uh is is very strong and of course
34:08
it takes something like that to penetrate a gas line. Of course, they
34:10
weren't admitting to that. They said that well that there could have all you
34:14
know, they were there was no admission, right, yeah, for sure.
34:17
Uh And it's still don't know exactly how something like that could have happened.
34:22
We didn't get to the bottom of that. I think we will eventually,
34:24
but we did get you know, the age of the of the pipes,
34:27
the distance they were very close to each other. Of course, you
34:30
know, one thing that that we knew, the residents of the West Side
34:35
knew about, but it was important to have. You know, Mountaineer Gas
34:38
they say that they have no public alert system in place. To me,
34:43
that's just I mean, that's ridiculous. I mean they they have our phone
34:46
numbers, they have our email addasses. There's a way to contact. It's
34:50
not hard to do. Everybody everything. Everybody. Everybody texts pretty much now,
34:53
ninety nine point nine percent of the population. As I mentioned on the
34:57
show. Even where I'm from in southern West Virginia, we had a texting
35:00
service ten years ago. It's not hard to do. I can tell you
35:04
his chair of the Democratic Party or any both political parties do it. You
35:07
get texts, You get unwanted text messages all the time from different groups.
35:12
It's not hard to do. Uh, to send out a text blast,
35:16
you know who the customers are that were affected, That would have been that
35:21
would have gone a long way, just to let people know what was going
35:22
on. Is that something where communication is always better, Mike? Is that
35:25
something that the legislature can can try to get done to? I mean,
35:30
is there a way that you can certainly hope that you can mandate. I'm
35:32
going to try because I mean, and I would think that's by a party,
35:36
So I mean, I can't imagine anybody would fight that because I mean,
35:37
and with all due respect to Mountaine your gas they said that the way
35:42
that they notify their customers is going door to door, and there were so
35:45
many that they haven't even gotten yet because I don't know where they not everybody's
35:49
home, all the people work during the day. It's hard. It's hard
35:52
to get in touch of people that way. It seems a lot more efficient
35:55
to have a text blast or an email email sent out, or even robo
36:00
calls or there are a lot of different ways in this day and age to
36:01
communicate people with people rather than going toward to door. So yeah, I
36:06
do believe that's something the legislature can and should do. I'm going to draft
36:10
the legislation. We do require that of water utilities. I mean, you
36:15
know, if there's unfortunately we have a lot of boiled water advisories in this
36:19
state, and when that happens, whether it's a private corporation like West Virginia
36:23
American Water or a publicly owned utility like it should be, they are required
36:29
either way. They're required to I mean email you, text you, call
36:32
you. I think they go to or to door as well. They are
36:36
required to let people know when there's a boiled water advisory. So the same
36:39
should be not just of the gas company, but of all utilities. They
36:43
should I mean, you would think that they would be required to have a
36:45
public alert system in place. Well, apparently they're not, but hopefully they
36:51
will be. Texas asked Mike why the heads of the water company and the
36:53
gas company weren't sworn in. I you know, that's a very good question.
36:59
I was hoping they would be sworn and apparently it's only on the House
37:01
side during House committee meetings we swear in witnesses. The presiding chair was a
37:07
Senator and I asked them about it afterwards, why didn't you swear them in?
37:10
And he said, we don't do that on the Senate side. Now,
37:14
it was a joint committee, so there were delegates and senators present,
37:16
but the presiding chair was Senator Queen and he did not swear them in.
37:22
But I mean, you don't really know why other than we just don't do
37:24
that. The Senate doesn't swear in witness the House does, right, Mike.
37:30
We've we spent a lot of time on this show and on talk Line
37:35
and other shows too, talking about the comments made last week as part of
37:37
the gubernatorial debate moderated by Hoppy Kerchival from our studios at Morgantown. The comments
37:42
coming from Secretary of State Republican candidate for governor Mac Warner saying that the twenty
37:46
twenty presidential election was not only stolen, but stolen in some sort of conspiracy
37:52
involving the CIA, big Tech and others. I had Senator or I'm sorry,
37:58
I had Secretary Warner on the show yesterday that I went on talk Line
38:00
with Dave Wilson to talk about it yesterday. Your thoughts on the whole thing,
38:05
Well, I think it's really his statements are unfounded and in my opinion,
38:09
quite frankly unhinged, and you know, to blame the CIA and the
38:15
FBI for some sort of you know, Alex Jones style conspiracy theory. Sorry,
38:23
but that's what it sounded like. All I could think of is the
38:29
one hundred and forty stars on the wall at I believe in Langley, at
38:32
the CIA headquarters. No stars symbolize men and women who gave their life in
38:38
service to this country, who work for that agency, and I think it's
38:43
a disservice to their memory. Quite frankly, I think he did himself a
38:45
great disservice, Secretary Warner did by repeating this conspiracy theory that's completely unfounded.
38:53
And there's absolutely no evidence to back that up from a marketing standpoint, though
38:59
it's got him a lot of attention of last week. Well, if that's
39:01
all he's he's trying to do, and I'm not saying that's what he tried,
39:05
trying to make himself relevant in a in a race where I'm not sure.
39:08
I don't I haven't checked the Republican polling lately, but I imagine that
39:12
most polls have had him in, have him in third and third as well.
39:16
It's an attempt. I mean, you know, he's a good guy.
39:19
I like him, but I think it's just a it's an attempt for
39:21
relevancy in a race that he's not gaining a whole lot of traction yet.
39:24
Sorry, that's how I feel. I don't think there's any evidence to back
39:30
up his point at all, And as the chief election officer of the state,
39:32
I think it's really dangerous rhetoric coming from him. Well, and I
39:36
said this on the show, and we'll move on. You know, I
39:37
like Mac Warner. I certainly respect his military career and his accomplishes thereof,
39:44
and I worked for him for four years, who's a great boss, and
39:46
I consider him to be a great friend. I have a picture of the
39:49
two of us hanging above my desk upstairs. But it's just one of the
39:52
things. I just you don't always agree with your boss, or even your
39:55
former boss. I just can't go along with it myself. And I'm hearing
40:00
more and more from a lot of Republicans people that have reached out to me.
40:05
Not anonymous tax like I get to the show, but people that have
40:07
reached out to me saying I can't, I can't go there, and publicly,
40:13
they say it out loud and public no, and that they should maybe
40:16
that would keep it from happening. No. And that's a major issue that
40:19
I have with a lot of people in the Republican party. Take Trump for
40:22
example. I know I know a lot of people that on the Republican side
40:30
that do not support Donald Trump and haven't mainly after January sixth, but will
40:37
not say anything publicly. And as a Republican, who's somebody who goes on
40:43
the show and says daily that I am not a Trump supporter. I was
40:46
at one time, I'm not anymore. If you want to get rid of
40:52
Trump, the Republicans have got to stand up and they've got to put somebody
40:54
else on there. But anyway, that's another story for that time. What's
40:58
the quote about good people being silent? Uh? It only takes for evil
41:04
to uh to succeed, is for good men to do nothing. Yeah,
41:07
something like that. I don't know who said that. Well, well credited
41:09
Jeff Patty, our producer said that. That's thank you, Jeff. That's
41:12
what I appreciate it. It'll be wise all right. Let me see.
41:14
I got a text here for you. It says, uh, dear Dave,
41:17
I saw Mike on the news last night, looking good, dude.
41:22
Thanks, I was on the news last night. Apparently you weren't. Apparently
41:25
apparently I was on the news last night too. Somebody just sent me that
41:29
uh, lead paint chip cut. I got a texture that's convinced that Mac
41:34
Warner eats led paint. I never saw that one. I just got a
41:37
text and somebody corrected me. He said, because I'm not in the Senate,
41:40
I don't participate in Senate hearings when it's during the session. I was
41:45
just corrected that the Senate does swear people in. So I don't know.
41:47
I can't answer the question why the why the chairman didn't swear in the UH
41:52
the president of West Virginia American. When I asked, I was told that
41:57
they didn't. Apparently I'm wrong either way. I don't. I mean,
42:00
there were a lot of questions that weren't answered, and I believe they will
42:05
be. It'll all come out in the wash eventually. But we did get
42:07
some good technical answers about the you know, the material the pipe, the
42:12
diameter of the pipe, weren't how close they were together. There was a
42:15
lot of information there and it wasn't And I talked about a little bit earlier.
42:17
It was earlier this week. By standards of infrastructure and pipes, they
42:23
really weren't that old. I mean, those were gas pipes pretty old.
42:28
But one of them was it the water of the gas that was just put
42:30
in in like the late eighties, and the water pipe was from eighty seven.
42:34
The gas pipe was from nineteen seventeen. Okay, all right, and
42:37
however a gas pipe, but they did again that's very old. But gas
42:42
pipes are low pressure pipes. It's just gas. It's not high pressure water
42:45
going through it. At least it's not supposed to be. I guess it
42:47
was, but a low pressure gas pipes. I don't think it's that uncommon
42:52
to have gas pipes that old. Okay, tex says, this is the
42:54
Texas stard Ready mack Warner cried about social media companies putting their fingers on the
42:58
scale of elections. Yet he doesn't say anything about conservative mega donors doing the
43:02
same. But Republicans didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at
43:06
all. Oh, let's talk about conservative mega donors. Actually some of the
43:09
donors aren't all that conservative. True, all right, But you know recently
43:14
Senator Carnes, you know our dear friend, Senator Carnes. He was on
43:17
the shows. He've been on this show once. He should have him back
43:22
once. He's very interesting. Anyway, he was kicked out of the Republican
43:28
Caucus, and apparently what it was for was he was accused of out and
43:34
he's claiming he didn't do it, but he was accused of sharing a list
43:37
of donors at the event the Senate Republicans held up at Edgewood this past Saturday.
43:44
That was in the What we're hearing was, and it's been been really
43:49
common knowledge around the Capitol for a while. There was ten thousand dollars to
43:52
get to get in front of the caucus ten thousand dollars apiece to sponsor this
43:55
event, and it's kind of implied lobbyists that if they don't pony up,
44:01
they're gonna have a harder time getting things done. I just think that that's
44:06
that's not the way government's supposed to work here in America. Our government's not
44:09
supposed to be for sale. You know. I know a lot of folks
44:14
who who need help, They need their representatives to occasionally to help improve their
44:20
lives address issues. But you know what, they don't have ten thousand dollars
44:22
to put into Craig Blair's caucus fund. So unfortunately, they're gonna have less
44:29
of a voice at the Capitol. So yeah, they kicked out. They
44:32
kicked out Carns for I guess allegedly he was accused of spilling the beans about
44:37
this fundraiser that was ten thousand dollars apiece. But nobody's really addressing the real
44:43
issue, and that's just paid a play scheme that's going on at the Capitol
44:46
and has been for quite some time. But I mean, it's a honest
44:49
but it's a private fundraiser. I mean, do Democrats not do similar things.
44:55
You know, politicians have fundraisers. Correct, Different committees and parties have
45:01
fundraisers, but it's not implied that, you know, it just aimed at
45:07
lobbyist. If you want to get in front of the caucus, you got
45:09
to give the max contribution, which is ten thousand dollars to that committee.
45:14
No, that's not the way it's supposed to work. Okay, all right,
45:17
think we have a phone call. We'll take this and then we'll go
45:21
to break. Jim, you're on with Mike and Dave. Go ahead,
45:23
Hello, Dave, Hello, Mike. Hey, Jim's good to hear you.
45:29
Well. Just sitting on the front seat on the TV on that committee
45:34
thing, I think that was the best thing that ever happened because you were
45:38
right there in the midst of it. You knew what was going on and
45:43
everything like that. So they weren't able to disregard the questions that were being
45:51
asked and they had to give some answers. Okay, all right, Jim,
45:54
I appreciate I appreciate you calling us up this one. I have a
45:58
hard time hearing in this Senate chamber for some reason, the acoustics in there.
46:01
Maybe I'm just not used to it too many years of playing that guitar.
46:04
I don't know what it is, but I can't hear very well in
46:07
the Senate chambers. So yeah, if I want to really hear what's going
46:09
on, I got to sit up front, all right, Texas day,
46:13
politicians should stay out of our sports. Just look at what's happened to our
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I'm sorry, there are Republicans that know this. Tell everyone publicly, Texas.
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If Pushkin playing Christmas? Is Pushkin playing Christmas music this year? If
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so? Could he play Frosty the Snowman. I know the last time he
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said it wasn't a Christmas song. However, I recently discovered it was co
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written by Jack Rollins, who was raised and is buried in Kaiser, West
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Virginia. Okay, I think that he wrote some other songs as well.
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But you know what I will. Okay, we got a request. It
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is enough time to learn it. You're on Frosty the Snowman. Wait a
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all the great details? Five away from ten. Mike Pushkin is here running
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short on time, Texas. The Republicans learned that pay to play scheme for
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the eighty years that the Democrats ran the store. Michael, Well, let
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me say, as long as I've been there, I've not seen the Democrats
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do anything nearly as egregious as what took place up at Edgewood Country Club this
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past weekend. Can tell you with great certainty there was nothing in the coffers
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when I got there. And you know, at this event, I saw
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the list of sponsors. There were fifty six of them. Apparently they were
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paying ten grand apiece. I'm not great at math, but that's five hundred
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and sixty thousand dollars to the Republican Senate Caucus. Now, what's different about
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this than an average fundraiser. Usually you go to political fundraising, and I'm
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sure you've been to a few, do a couple people get out talk ten
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thousand dollars. People will get up and talk about the candidate. The candidate
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gets up or the committee or whatever happens to be at This was very different,
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as this had lobbyists who paid to be sponsors get up and make presentations
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in front of the decision makers. They made the presentations in front of the
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people who were going to be voting on policy, so their voice is going
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to be a lot louder and more likely to be heard than average people who
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can't afford just about everybody you can't afford to pay ten thousand dollars to get
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in front of their senator. It's disgusting. Texas, Dave. You no
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longer support Trump, and that's fine, but you seem to have a bit
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of a problem with those who do and with those who believe there was fraud
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in twenty twenty, even though you say you don't so much for others.
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Writer, Freedom of Fought. I like you and Hoppy both, but you
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both do that. Go back and listen to some old shows. Look,
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I believe people can support whomever they want. That's a great thing about America.
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And there's been no proof of any that the election was stolen in twenty
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twenty. Joe Biden's breath in the United States. I didn't vote for him,
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and I won't vote for him in twenty twenty twenty four either vote as
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of any Republican other than Trump. I'll tell you that, and not Ramaswami
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because I can't go there. Yeah, all right, let me get this
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in here, A little show preview for next week, the final show before
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Christmas. We started doing this a couple of week first year I did the
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show. I guess in twenty twenty. It's one week from tomorrow. We
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always do it on the final show before Christmas, and that'll be on Friday
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next week. It is the Jewish Christmas Spectacular, starring Michael, Ari Pushikin
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and my son. I think you're starring. I'm the co star. You're
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just now learning that. No, but but you're going to come in as
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as is tradition. You're going to come in next Friday, bring your guitar.
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There's going to be other guests in the uh in the studio as well.
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I'm working on some other guests that are going to come in with you,
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but hopefully they can sing better than me. And well I'm working on
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I'm working on some people. You're a fine singer and find guitar player,
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Michael. But but we are going to do that next Friday. And now
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you've got a request for Frosty the Snowman. Do you think you can pull
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I mean, I'm not a musician. Doesn't seem like it should be that
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difficult. I don't know. I've never tried to play it. All right,
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we'll see it, man, Hopefully I can learn it. I'll try.
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I'll have my best. We'll have some other guests in here next week
51:38
to maybe help you out with that. How's that? Yeah, get some
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talented folks that cover for me. That's what I always did when I played
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in bands. I'd always work with people who are a lot more talented than
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I am. I always like to a kid my friends that are drummers.
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The old joke was, what do you call a guy? Uh? What
51:52
do you got that try? What do you call a guy that travels around
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with a bunch of musicians a drummer? A drummer? All right? Uh?
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you. Mike, thanks for being here. I appreciate it, man,
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Thank you. Happy seventh day of Honnige to you absolutely and I will see
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you next Friday. It's Friday. I'll be here with the guitar in hand
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Friday Funhouses tomorrow. Special guests will be filmmaker Danny Boyd, He's going to
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be my co host on the show tomorrow. Hannah Gardner will be here with
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our not Me Please spend It the week from the Cadal Charleston new Man Association
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and Evan Osborne from Capitol Market will be stopping by the show tomorrow as well.
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Dave Wilson's in for Hoppy. Follow the news of the day wv Metrodews
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dot com at WCCHS Network dot com. My producer Hollywood, Jeff Petty,
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thank you so much. I will see you tomorrow. Till then, have
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