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Mark Belling Podcast #80: Judicial roulette: A Milwaukee County Judge gets tough on a wrong way drunk driver while a Waukesha County Judge goes lenient on a guy who did the same thing, the Democrats demand the Republicans fix the Obamacare disaster they created, Tucker Kraft's career is jeopardized by football's worst injury and guess who wants to run for Governor? · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: You're going to open today's podcast with a concept. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of like a game, except the consequences are greater
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  Speaker 2: than that. It's called judicial roulette. I think you all
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  Speaker 2: Or should we just move on and go forward with
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  Speaker 2: my judicial relate? Just move forward judicial roulette. Let's suppose
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  Speaker 2: you do something the reverse I suppose could be. Let's
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  Speaker 2: imagine you're a victim of a crime. What happens is
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  Speaker 2: often a result of judicial roulette. Which judge has the
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  Speaker 2: case people talk all the time about well, it's these judges,
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  Speaker 2: and they're right. The problem is is that because most
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  Speaker 2: judges are anonymous, people don't really know the good ones
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  Speaker 2: or the bad ones, or the bad ones and the
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  Speaker 2: good ones. We're going to open it's podcast with a
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  Speaker 2: We're going to revisit a topic from Thursday's podcast of
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  Speaker 2: last week and then move forward. We discussed the case
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  Speaker 2: of a guy from Musquigo who it was this year's
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl Sunday. He went to a couple of joints,
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  Speaker 2: got himself watching the Super Bowl, was driving home south
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  Speaker 2: on Moreland Road in Waukeshaw County. Moreland Road is a
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  Speaker 2: big north south thoroughfare kind of runs to the middle
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  Speaker 2: of Brookfield and runs the middle of New Berlin on
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  Speaker 2: in this case, on the way down to Muskego, which
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  Speaker 2: is where the guy lives. The guy was driving in
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  Speaker 2: the wrong lane. It's a divided it's not a freeway,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a divided highway, not even really a highway,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a street that has a higher speed limit
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  Speaker 2: and a big wide street and a major thoroughfare, and
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  Speaker 2: it's divided to the northbound lanes and the southbound lanes
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  Speaker 2: are separated. He's going the wrong way. He was headed
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  Speaker 2: south but in the northbound lane, and he crashed head
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  Speaker 2: on into a squad car. The police officer from New
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  Speaker 2: Berlin this was into Berlin was injured, fortunately not terribly,
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  Speaker 2: and Jimiddy busted a finger in pain. The guy's name
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  Speaker 2: is who committed the crime is named David Sky. It
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  Speaker 2: was not his first offense. He was charged with multiple
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  Speaker 2: felonies and multiple misdemeanors as well in connection with the incident.
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  Speaker 2: Reckless driving willin Koitte, intoxicated, operating well intoxicated, two or
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  Speaker 2: more offenses, and so on. The reckless driving component dealt
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  Speaker 2: with the fact that he's going the wrong way, and
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  Speaker 2: they added in the enhancer of causing injury. In the
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  Speaker 2: case of Scott, he appeared in Waukershaw County before a
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  Speaker 2: new judge. His name is Scott Wagner. Do not confuse
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  Speaker 2: him with Milwaukee County Judge Jeff Wagner, who is finally retiring.
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  Speaker 2: Get a great career on the bench, and he's not
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  Speaker 2: to be confused that the talk show host named Jeff
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  Speaker 2: Wagner a lot of Wagner's Anyway, This is Scott Wagner,
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  Speaker 2: new judge from Waukershaw County. He gave him four months.
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  Speaker 2: Since we discussed that case, there was a case that
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  Speaker 2: was heard in Milwaukee County Circuit Court in which the
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  Speaker 2: details are very similar. This is a crash that occurred
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  Speaker 2: on I seven ninety four. Seven ninety four is the
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  Speaker 2: spur of the freeway that runs through downtown Milwaukee. If
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  Speaker 2: you're taking I ninety four, it heads to the south,
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  Speaker 2: you know, toward the airport, toward rasin Kenosha, and so
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  Speaker 2: on at the Marquette interchange. But if you continue straight
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  Speaker 2: toward the lake front, that's seven ninety four vice versa.
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  Speaker 2: If you get on the freeway in Milwaukee County. You
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  Speaker 2: head out on seven ninety four when you hit the
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  Speaker 2: market Interkinge you hit ninety four. Explaining where this was.
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  Speaker 2: This is a crash in which a driver, the guy
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  Speaker 2: of some South Milwaukee, he was drunk, went the wrong
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  Speaker 2: way and crashed into a vehicle and caused injury. No,
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  Speaker 2: there are differences. One was on the freeway seven ninety four.
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  Speaker 2: The other one was on Moreland Road, which isn't a freeway,
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  Speaker 2: but both similar in that they are divided roadways. So
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  Speaker 2: if you're going the wrong way, it's not like crossing
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  Speaker 2: the center line. You're on the wrong way in a
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  Speaker 2: divided highway with all the traffic coming against you. This
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  Speaker 2: guy's name is Matthew Sinclair. The case from Milwaukee County.
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  Speaker 2: He's Someselves, Milwaukee. As I said, the details very very
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  Speaker 2: similar wrong way intoxication. In the case of Sinclair. This
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  Speaker 2: was the first defense for intoxication of the Waukeshaw County case.
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  Speaker 2: It was two. There was a woman who was who
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  Speaker 2: was in another car, the car that was hit by Sinclair.
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  Speaker 2: She was injured. Again, very similar Scott's cases, I said,
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  Speaker 2: occurred in Milwaukee County Court. Milwaukee County Circuit court. He
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  Speaker 2: appeared before Judge Rebecca Kiefer. She gave him three years.
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  Speaker 2: As I say, the crimes are extremely similar. No, two
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  Speaker 2: crimes are identical, but very similar. The guy at Walkershaw
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  Speaker 2: County got four months. The guy in Milwaukee County got
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  Speaker 2: three years. Now, first of all, let's start with this.
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  Speaker 2: Our basic shorthand of where the good judges are and
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  Speaker 2: where they aren't would lead you to believe that the
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  Speaker 2: Waukeshaw County case was handled more harshly than Milwaukee County,
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  Speaker 2: which has a history of leniency. But in these cases
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  Speaker 2: that's not the case. We don't know a much about
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  Speaker 2: the sentencing pattern of Judge Scott Wagner and Waukeshaw County
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  Speaker 2: because he's brand new. He was just sworn in this year,
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  Speaker 2: just a few months ago. And I don't know a
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  Speaker 2: lot about Judge Rebecca Kiefer in Milwaukee County other than
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  Speaker 2: almost all the judges in Milwaukee County tend to be soft.
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  Speaker 2: She wasn't soft in this case. She gave three months
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  Speaker 2: three years. But there's a moral to this story. If
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  Speaker 2: you drive drunk the wrong way out of highway, you're
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  Speaker 2: better off doing it in Waukershaw County than in Milwaukee County. Now,
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  Speaker 2: it's certainly possible that in Wakershaw County, if the guy there,
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  Speaker 2: his name is Scott Sinclair, is the guy from Milwaukee
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  Speaker 2: County had gotten a different judge, maybe he would have
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  Speaker 2: gotten a harsher punishment. Again judicial roulette. In this case,
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  Speaker 2: Scott got lucky because his judge, Scott Wagner, went lean
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  Speaker 2: in and all soft on him. No, I wasn't in
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom for either of these cases. Obviously, here's what
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  Speaker 2: often happens. By the way, one of the good things
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  Speaker 2: aboute YouTube is they have zillions now of cases in
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  Speaker 2: which they just replay court cases from the courtroom camera
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  Speaker 2: in the courtroom and you see the case. There's zillions
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  Speaker 2: of them. Some counties it's easier to get the video
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  Speaker 2: than others, So some counties and some judges, and there
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  Speaker 2: are some judges that just have personalities that made for YouTube,
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  Speaker 2: and one of the producers. YouTube doesn't produce really any
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  Speaker 2: of its own video, but the persons who are producing
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  Speaker 2: the video and posting on YouTube just set up shop
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  Speaker 2: and have a camera permanently in a judge's court when
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  Speaker 2: they just carry that judge all the time. Anyway, One
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  Speaker 2: of the things that you'll see on sentencing is when somebody,
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  Speaker 2: anybody is convicted of something and it's time for sentencing,
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  Speaker 2: they get up there, Oh, I've changed, this is terrible,
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  Speaker 2: don't take me away from my family. All their friends
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  Speaker 2: and relatives come up and they all say, well, all
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  Speaker 2: these wonderful things. It happens constantly, and there are some
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  Speaker 2: judges that fall for this. In some cases. Maybe the
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  Speaker 2: stuff is actually true, I would argue, probably irrelevant, nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with the fact that the person did something terrible,
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  Speaker 2: And certainly there are we can make the argument that
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  Speaker 2: people who have law and criminal records deserve more punishment
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  Speaker 2: than those for whom it's a first time a fan.
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  Speaker 2: But as I say, the thing that makes these two
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  Speaker 2: cases that I'm talking about here striking is they're very similar.
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  Speaker 2: The defenses are very very similar. Did the Waukeshaw County
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  Speaker 2: guy gets softer treatment because he hit and injured a
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  Speaker 2: cop whereas the Milwaukee County guy injured a civilian a woman? No, No,
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  Speaker 2: I can't ask Scott Wagner why he decided to take
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  Speaker 2: a dive on his case, Nor could I ask Rebecca
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  Speaker 2: Keefer why she went tougher. A lot of it may
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  Speaker 2: have to do with the sentence and recommendation from the
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  Speaker 2: district attorney. Milwaukee County has a reputation of having softer
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  Speaker 2: district attorney's run a new one right now, he's in
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  Speaker 2: his first year, and a case like this, chances are
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  Speaker 2: it was not even reviewed by the DA. It's handled
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  Speaker 2: by an assistant DA. Maybe that was the same case
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  Speaker 2: in Waukeshaw County. Maybe the sentencing recommendation from the DN
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  Speaker 2: Waukeshaw County was soft, and maybe the sentencing recommendation from
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  Speaker 2: the DN Milwaukee County was strong and that impacted the judge. Perhaps,
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  Speaker 2: but remember judges don't have to accept sentencing recommendations. There
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  Speaker 2: will often be a negotiated plea in which they agree
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  Speaker 2: on a recommendation, but the judge they even say before
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  Speaker 2: after the person accepts the plea burger, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not bound with this, so I never cut that as
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  Speaker 2: any slack. Any judge who doesn't like the terms of
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  Speaker 2: the plea bargain can issue a stronger sentience. There are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of morals to the story, among them that
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  Speaker 2: who your judge is is very very important. Now you
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  Speaker 2: can't blame the voters on these types of things, because
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  Speaker 2: almost all judges in both of these counties are unopposed. Occasionally,
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  Speaker 2: in Waukeshaw County when there's a vacancy, there'll be more
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  Speaker 2: than one candidate running. In this case, however, Scott Wagner
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  Speaker 2: when he was elected, there was a vacancy, but he
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  Speaker 2: was the only candidate, and he was endorsed by all
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  Speaker 2: the conservatives, and he's got a conservative background and so on.
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  Speaker 2: So it maybe brand new judge gets on there and
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  Speaker 2: he's too damn dumb to figure things out in this case,
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  Speaker 2: or he falls for an argument, or he has some
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  Speaker 2: sympathy or the defendant in front of him crying and
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  Speaker 2: the family's out there, and maybe he falls for this crap.
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  Speaker 2: But it is instructive in this case that Milwaukee County,
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  Speaker 2: which on the overall is more lenient, when in this
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  Speaker 2: instance way tougher and those of you who live in
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  Speaker 2: Walkashaw County ought to be ashamed of that, and you
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  Speaker 2: ought to be ashamed of Wagner. One of the things
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  Speaker 2: that I think I'm pretty good at. First it's a
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  Speaker 2: talk show host and now a podcaster, which are almost
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  Speaker 2: identical things. Almost identical. They're not identical, but boy, it's
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  Speaker 2: like ninety nine percent there or so on is I'll
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  Speaker 2: take two stories like this and put them side by
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  Speaker 2: side and sure with the audience. Both of these stories
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  Speaker 2: were covered by the media, but separately, and you never
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  Speaker 2: get a sense one way or another if people don't
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  Speaker 2: pay attention to what the sentence is and so on.
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  Speaker 2: These two cases, though, were just They were resolved just
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  Speaker 2: several days apart, one in time for today's podcast, the
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  Speaker 2: other in time for the last one of last week,
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  Speaker 2: and they were remarkable side by side stories. Now our
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  Speaker 2: related story for you all these bills that the Republican
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  Speaker 2: Legislature passed. Tony Efers is vetoing a lot of them,
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  Speaker 2: and he's signing some of them. One of the bills
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  Speaker 2: that he signed, which was passed with bipartisan support. Some
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  Speaker 2: Democrats voted for them, enhances the ability of police to
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  Speaker 2: tow vehicles. I've been arguing on this for some time.
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  Speaker 2: This bill does I would say some good, but not much.
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  Speaker 2: But again, not much good is still better than doing
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  Speaker 2: no good at all. You know, you give a dime
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  Speaker 2: through a charity, there's a good charity. It's you know
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  Speaker 2: that there's a time do them a lot of good. No,
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  Speaker 2: but it's better than if you didn't give him anything
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  Speaker 2: at all, Like a little weasel like Paul over there.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're a cheap skiate, you know that. I
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  Speaker 2: think you're a chief skate. Well you are a chief skate. Ah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you have your job in general, you're a chief skate. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you see a guy, you see him at a sporting event.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's somebody gave him a ticket. That's
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  Speaker 2: just the way it is. You're a chief skate. Well
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  Speaker 2: that's true, isn't it. Yeah? You way, are you surprised
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  Speaker 2: you have it? Like stumbled down to like somebody with
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  Speaker 2: a charge a bucket and a half of the game
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  Speaker 2: or something or anyway. In this instance, the legislation signed
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  Speaker 2: by Evers allows the authorities to tow a vehicle involved
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  Speaker 2: in a reckless driving arrest without regard to whether or
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  Speaker 2: not the driver is the owner of the vehicle. Now,
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  Speaker 2: let me explain the basis for this. Many instances, the
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  Speaker 2: reckless driver doesn't own the vehicle. In some cases it's stolen,
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  Speaker 2: but often it's this, especially in Milwaukee. This crap a
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  Speaker 2: friend of a friend of a friend, of a friend
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  Speaker 2: of a friend of a friend, because there are all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of people who don't have their own vehicle, and
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  Speaker 2: you know it's all shady stuff. But secondly, let's imagine
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  Speaker 2: I give my car. I won't. It's silly to argue this,
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  Speaker 2: but I'll just use an example. I give my car
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  Speaker 2: to Paul, and Paul drives recklessly. And when I say recklessly,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking the stuff that is caused, you know, all
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  Speaker 2: the kind of stuff that we're talking about here. Imagine
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  Speaker 2: wrong way driving, but the person didn't crash or just
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  Speaker 2: blowing through ninety stop signs in Milwaukee. If all they
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  Speaker 2: do is give Paul a ticket and it falls like
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  Speaker 2: most of the people in Milwaukee get charged with this
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  Speaker 2: doesn't pay the fine. What's it off of me who
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  Speaker 2: let them drive the car? Here's the thing about the towing.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know that everybody knows this. Do you know?
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  Speaker 2: You know the thing about the towing. When I say
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  Speaker 2: the thing about the towing, what is the thing about
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  Speaker 2: the toing? It gets it, It tastes. It costs a
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  Speaker 2: ton of money to get your car out of the
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  Speaker 2: toe lot. You know you and your can I say
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  Speaker 2: this business you and your wife are in or nott
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  Speaker 2: or can I not mention it? They've got these storage lockers.
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  Speaker 2: I said on the program, like twenty five years ago,
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  Speaker 2: a gold mine would get us, get these storage lockers
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  Speaker 2: and put a ton of them in the third ward
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  Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. Of course I don't do this. You should
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  Speaker 2: see the third I mean there's high rises on the freeway.
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  Speaker 2: The storage lockers are going like nineteen million stories in
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  Speaker 2: the air well. Paul's now involved in the storage locker thing.
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  Speaker 2: Another good business I should have gone into twenty five
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  Speaker 2: years ago is owning a toe lot. It's just the drive.
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  Speaker 2: The companies that do the towing for a parking lot operators,
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  Speaker 2: they don't charge you. They charge you nothing. Why because
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  Speaker 2: they make their money on the toe lot. It's like
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  Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty bucks to get your car out
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  Speaker 2: of a toe lot. So let's imagine you've got just
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  Speaker 2: any private parking lot in Milwaukee. We're only parking for
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  Speaker 2: the customers and so on, are only parking for the
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  Speaker 2: apartment tenants. The tow trucks are just constantly trolling through
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  Speaker 2: and if the license isn't approved, or they'll go in
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  Speaker 2: and they'll ask the business because it should this guy
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  Speaker 2: be here. They told the car up, it's three fifty
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  Speaker 2: three d and eighty bucks. They have this rule that
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  Speaker 2: if you get to the car while it's on the hook,
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  Speaker 2: you can pay the driver on the spot a lesser
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  Speaker 2: fee and they release it, which is an even better
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  Speaker 2: deal for the toll driver because he doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: go all the way over to the to lot and
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  Speaker 2: back to the area that he's going. He can just
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  Speaker 2: let you go take the money. The money goes like
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. Anyway, So this bill expands this to cover
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  Speaker 2: the fact that many people driving recklessly are not the
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  Speaker 2: owners of the vehicle, including zillions of the juveniles that
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  Speaker 2: are out there. It helps, however, as I've been saying
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  Speaker 2: for some time, that scratches the surface. In many states,
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  Speaker 2: if the vehicle is unregistered, it's towed. An extremely high
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  Speaker 2: number of the vehicles that are being driven recklessly in
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  Speaker 2: southeastern Wisconsin, they're not even registered. And when I say
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  Speaker 2: not registered, you didn't renew the plate, so there's no
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  Speaker 2: other the plates are expired or it hasn't been registered
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  Speaker 2: for three or four years. That offense in Milwaukee, I
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  Speaker 2: can't speak for every county. Is you get a ticket,
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  Speaker 2: and the ticket carries a fine. There is, unless you're
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  Speaker 2: a responsible citizen, no reason to pay the fine. None.
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  Speaker 2: You know what they do if you don't pay your
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  Speaker 2: fine in Milwaukee, they take away your driver's license. The
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  Speaker 2: people who aren't registering their cars also aren't licensing themselves
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  Speaker 2: to drive. I can then put out a warrant for
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  Speaker 2: your arrest if you don't pay it, and there are
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  Speaker 2: warrants issued for the arrest. I mention this all the time.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's one of the things that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: sink in. The Milwaukee County jail does not accept inmates
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  Speaker 2: being taken in on traffic wards, So the jail just
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  Speaker 2: won't accept you. So there's no point in a police
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  Speaker 2: officer in Milwaukee County arresting somebody for not paying their
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  Speaker 2: traffic wards because the jail won't accept them. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why. I think nobod that doesn't sink into people.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm justsing I should have used you as a
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  Speaker 2: guinea pig. What happens if they bring you to the
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  Speaker 2: jail on a traffic war, you would have said, I
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  Speaker 2: just keep saying this. It's like people don't process that.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm intuitive. I just think people don't process it.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Now I've said it ninety times, maybe they'll process it. Also,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: in many communities, if you're involved in drunk driving, they
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: toll the vehicles. This happens in some communities in Milwaukee County,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: but another other than the state of Wisconsin, but not all.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I would do the same thing with people who are
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: driving without a license. You don't have a license, Toe
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the car. Not only do you not let them drive away.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Toe the car. I'm telling you this will work because
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: it costs so damn much to get it out of
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: the toe lot. These people who don't have licenses will
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: get license. The people that aren't registered will can register
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: because they don't want to be. And then the cops
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: they can run around and they have the license plate readers.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know if all police have this, but many
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: agencies now have. They're scanners. They automatically scan the plate
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and it'll come back and trigger if a vehicle's god,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: if there's a if it's expired, and so on, and
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: there's warrants for the driver, and it's kind of sophisticated stuff.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: You told these people you solve the problem, not solve
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the problem. You go a long way toward solving the problem.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Paul said, you can't. Well, I'm telling you this. I've
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: driven past some of these lots and the first thing
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you have to do is you have to get passed.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: You have to get past the six foot pit bulls
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that are sitting on that on the I mean, it's
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: like I remember when my late lamented sixty eight Camaro convertible,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: one of the i'd say the greatest car I ever.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: It wasn't the greatest car I ever owned, but it
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: was enough to understand the context of it. This was
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: long before people understood it was a classic. It was
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: just a beater when I had it. Well, I mean,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: it was t boned in Springfield, Illinois. It wasn't my fault.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Somebody ran a red lighted t bone me and I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: was totaled out, and given the value of the car
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: at the time, it didn't take much to total it out.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: So it was towed to a toll lot and they
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: scrapped it in the insurance company for the other driver,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: they paid me a subtle mention. So on. I remember
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: leaving the car and I had to walk away because
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I had to sign something. But
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it's at the toll out when they towed it there,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: there's this big dog bark. I swear every Junkyard is
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: a dog. It's why we have the term junkyard dog.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, imagine, if you ran a Junkyard or you
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: didn't have a dog, you would be like shamed out
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: of the Junkyard business. I looked at this car. It
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: even dawned on me, I'm gonna miss this car. There
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: was the dog barkin, and I don't remember any other details.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Somebody must have given me a drive home, or somebody
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: must have gone. I don't remember any of that anyway.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: All right, speaking of problems, the Democrats in Wisconsin have
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: a problem. That's always good news, isn't it now. I
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: mentioned this story two months ago, and it's now showing
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: up in the mainstream media. Mendela Barnes wants to run
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: for governor. The Democrats don't want him to run for governor.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: The Democrats look at Mendela saying, you're the one guy
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: that can close. We know this because twenty twenty two
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: is a democratic year. Democrats did pretty well across the country,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and they did very well here on Wisconsin. They won
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the governorship. Tony Eavers was re elected, beating Kim Michaels.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Josh Call was re elected Attorney General. He beat Eric Tony,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: but the Republicans kept the Senate seat. Ron Johnson beat
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Mendela Barnes. So the biggest reason ronje was and again
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: these are all close elections, there was a handful of
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: voters who divided their tickets and voted for Evers and Johnson.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: You would wonder why would they do that, And it
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: was simply Mendela Barnes was so toxic, so stupid, such
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a shady background. The whole thing. Had a state trooper
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: drive him to Madison and back because he didn't have
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: It was either he didn't have a registered vehicle, he
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: didn't have a license, or something like the stay. Well,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: he was involved in an extremely offensive party in college.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Well I'll say what it was. He ran an ad
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: in which he said no ratchets allowed. Remember that. Well,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I mean he had that baggage and it was used
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: against him any loss, and it's one of the reasons
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: why Ron's back in the Senate for another six years. Well,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Mandela thinks that he's special. He just he's entitled to it.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: And I almost was a senator. So now I want
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: to be the governor. The thing is that Democrats have
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: people running for governor. They already told Josh Cawley can't
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: run the attorney general, and Josh go, okay, fine, I
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: won't run. They have David Crowley, the Milwaukee County executive.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: He's running. The last thing he wants is another African
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: American from Milwaukee to run against him in a primary,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: dividing that vote. Then you have Sarah Rodriguez, the lieutenant governor.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I it's my turn. I'm the lieutenant governor. Tony Evers
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: is the governor. I should be the governor. Then there's
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: like five other lefties from Madison Linarosa running. Here's why
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Mendela wants to run. He does have name recognition, and
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I know why he has name recognition. It's that first name.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: You know, he's named after Nelson Mendela, and he's milked
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: that thing his entire political career. So he's thinking, Okay,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: there's like seven Democrats going to run. I'm better known
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: than all of them. I could win with maybe twenty
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: nine thirty percent of the vote. Story in jas online.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Every Democratic leader in the state is telling him not
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to run, and they all know why. Some of them
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: are coming right out and saying. At the Milwaukee Courier,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: which is a newspaper and website in Milwaukee aimed at
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the African American community, they wrote in an editorial, Mendela
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: had his opportunity, he didn't close. That means it's time
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: for a new chapter. Do they make it a clip? Mendela,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: you had your chance, you blew it. We want somebody else.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: There's Mendela thinking, I want to be the governor. You
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: can't make me drop out. Now they actually can't make you,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: but they can induce you. The Democrats for how did
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: they get for example, Sarah god Luski, who also wants
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: to run. She's the Secretary of State. You wanted to
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: run for governor. She's been told you will have the
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: path cleared for the United States Senate in twenty eight.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Ron Johnson seat is up again in twenty eight. Sarah
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: god Luski's gonna run for the United States Senate in
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: twenty eight, and the Democratic leaders are going to knock
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: every other Democrat who tries to run for that and
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: say we're giving all of our support to Sarah. The
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: other thing they can do is they can set you
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: up in a nonprofit. They have a zillion of them.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: All these Democratic organizations that are out there doing community organizing,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: they're all backed by billionaires. They can give Mendel a
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: big job. And maybe that's all he's updue that he's
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: out there trying to extort and shake them down for
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: some sort of big job and so on. But even
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: a big job like that, it ain't the governor. And
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: he thinks he give me the governor. I'll tell you
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: who wants him to get the Democratic nomination, the Republicans.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I have heard through the grapevine that one of the
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: things that is giving Kim Michael's reason to reconsider his
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: decision not to run is he believes that if Mendela
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Barnes is the candidate, he can win. Now, Tom Tiffany's
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: already in the race, so's Josh Showman, the Washington County executive.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: But if Barnes gets in, there are going to be
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: other Repubsublicans who want to get in because the Republicans.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Republicans are probably up against it in terms of winning
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the governorship in twenty six unless what unless Mendela Barnes
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: is the Democratic candidate. Let's go to an unfortunate story.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: One of the just realities of football is because the
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: athletes are too fast, too big, and too strong, the
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: injury tool is savage. And what happened to Tuckercraft is
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: tragedy is too strong of a word, but it's just
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: the devastating blow he has become. I think, I argue
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: he was the best tight end in the National Football League.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I think possibly he's the most popular Packer among fans.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: It was a great story of this guy that grew
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: up in this nowhere town in South Dakota. He played
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: for a Division one FCS team in college, fourth round
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: draft choice and built him into what he is. He
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the worst thing. It's close to the worst injury. I
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: think a broken leg is worse. But apparently it's a
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: torn ACL. The Packers is of the time of this podcast,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: have not released that, but it was after the game
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: that the reports were that there what yeah, MRI says
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: it's ACL, right, yeah, yeah. The end Paul said that
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: that just has come out and it was known that
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: that's what it would be. The ACL is a terrible
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: injury because it may end your career. The recovery time
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: is usually it's anywhere from nine to fifteen months. Most
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: people try to make it back in nine to ten.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: My own belief is is that Tucker Craft should not
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: try to play football until twenty twenty seven. I think
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: that way too many guys come back too early from
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: an ACL. I think you need to give it a
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: year and a half. An example of this would be
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Jabari Parker of the Bucks, who came back too quickly,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: and the result is you often put too much pressure
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: on your good knee and he tore the other ACL.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Another example of this would be David Bocdieri the Packers,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: who he tried to come back fifteen different times, and
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: he'd come back a game and he'd have to go
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: back and it just never. It's terrible injury for any athlete,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: but especially for a football player. But best case scenario,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: he fully recovers in his back in time for the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: beginning of next season. But again, even if he is back,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: will he be the same. It's just a terrible injury.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: The ACL is for an athlete, the most important of
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the ligaments in the knee. There's all theseve ligaments, and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: if you're not an athlete, they all obviously matter. But
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: it's a terrible one and It just happened on a
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: freak injury. He kind of ran into one of his
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: offensive linemen and the offensive lineman was cut blocked by
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: a defender for Carolina. And it was a legal cut block,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: some of the not a cut block because he was
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: on defense. You can't do a cut block if you're
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: a blocker. You can't go for the legs of a defender.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: But on the other way, the defender can kind of
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: go toward the legs as they were describing it on TV.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: And I don't know this rule that what the defender
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: for the Panthers did was legal, but it made Ryan
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: go down and Ryan went down right into Craft and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Crafts and thee slammed into Ryan and that's when the
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: ACL But it's just a devastating injury for the Packers.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I think that Packers had two great players on their
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: team this year. When I say great, I mean great,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: and that's Micah Parsons and Tucker Craft. They have several
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: very good players, including Jordan Love, but two great players,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and they lost one of the minute's a terrible story
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: for Craft and a terrible story for the Packers. And
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: it's the reality though a football. I mean, these injuries
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: happen all the time. They happen far more frequently they
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: did in the past. It is simply guys are bigger, faster,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and stronger. But the ligaments are the same ligaments that
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: we've always had in our bodies. And it's the sad
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: and it's an unfortunate story. And with that we'll take
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: a break. This is the Mark Belling podcast. This is
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the Mark Belling Podcast. I hope you all saw President
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Trump on sixty Minutes last night. Probably a lot of
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: people did, because it was on right after the Kansas
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: City Buffalo game, both on CBS. By the way, a
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: quick aside on that the NASCAR Championship race was on
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: right up against the marquee game of the NFL regular
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: season Kansas City and Buffalo. There's some talk in NASCAR
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: finally changing the rules back to perhaps something closer to
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: what they were in the beginning when they didn't have
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: a playoff system for the championship and the past. NASCAR,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: like most automobile racing series like Formula One and Indie
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Racing League, they simply add up the points throughout the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: course of the season, and whoever has the most points
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: at the end of the season is the winner. And
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: when NASCAR had that system was that was when NASCAR
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: exploded in popularity in America. And then the third generation
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: of Francis came in and they decided that stock car
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: racing has to be like football, baseball, and basketball and
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you have to have playoffs. Well, they're a different sport. It's,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: first of all, it's not really a team sport. There's
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: teams of two or three or four cars per driver,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: but it's an individualized sport. And all it did was
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: it watered down all of the other races in this
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: deal where okay, the sixteen drivers advance of the playoffs
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: that if you win a race, you advance to the
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: next and so forth and so on, and then you
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: just last race. There's four cars that have a chance
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: to win the championship, and then thirty five other drivers
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: that are in the race as well. At whichever driver
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: of the four has the highest finish wins the championship.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Citing a championship based on it's just so stupid, I
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: should Denny Hamlin is probably the greatest NASCAR driver to
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: ever win a championship. He's leading this race the whole race,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and with three laps left, He's up by three seconds,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: and the track is a short track in Phoenix. Three
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: seconds with three laps left at that track is like
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: being three miles ahead. There's only one way he can
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: lose the race, and that is a yellow flag comes out.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: If a yellow flag comes out, they have to restart
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the race, and the second place driver is right next
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: to him. In addition to that, the whole race, everybody
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: was having tire trouble, So all the drivers come in
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: for tire changes. You're changing tires just to run two
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: laps because when they restart there's only two laps left.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Every driver that went into the pits changed two tires.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Hamlin's team changed all four because they changed all four.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: He came out of the pits not in first but
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: in tent, and all said, why did I was watching
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: to see I get the whole thing. That handling and
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: tires is important, even for two laps. I'm watching this second.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Are you nuts? He's got the best car. Just make
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: sure he's still in position. He'll run away from the field.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: He said he thought it was the right decision. The
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I'm brain farting here, I'm trying to think of the
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Kyle Larson Kyle Larson in the five car who there's
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: five spectacular drivers in NASCAR. Kyle Larson's one of them,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: to Hamlt's another. Kyle Larson's team. He drives for Rick
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: hen And the three great teams in NASCAR are Joe Gibbs,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that's the old football coach. That's Denny Hamlin's team, Kyle
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Larson drives for Rick Hendrick, and the third one is
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Penske and the Penske team I think has won the
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: last two championships. In this case, the Joe Gibbs teams
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: made the decision to have their driver take four tires.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Everybody else took two, and Kyle Larson didn't win the race,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: but he finished ahead of Denny Hamlin, who couldn't having
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the four tires was not enough for him to be
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: able to make up any ground. Just it was a
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: stupid decision, and I thought it was. No, I can't
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: prove that it was. I thought it was a stupid decision.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there watching it by myself in my living room,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: but I thought it was a stupid decision, and it
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: was a stupid decision anyway. Trump's interview in sixty minutes.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: That's where this all started. Remember that, I'm just telling
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: you Trump is at the top of his game right now.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: It was the same kind of interview that he always gets,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: a hostile interview. Remember, CBS is under new ownership now, Paramount,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: and Paramount's chairman David Ellison has made it clear that
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: he wants his bias at CBS News to end. So
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: it wasn't a hatchet job interview. What it was is
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Nora O'Donnell's sitting there asking stern questions.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I'm just.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know this. Everybody who interviews Trump has the
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: same thing, this stern demeanor. I don't know what these
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: people think is attractive of well being in television, being
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: stern and angry, because the work is the same. Watch
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: anybody who's successful doing a podcast, the podcasts that are
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: they're all smiling and laughing and so on. I'm not
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: a video podcaster here, but I'm smiling and laughing. She
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: was there. She was doing it because she knows she
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: had to do it, and she knew that she couldn't
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: be over the hearsh so she just tried to ask
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: these direct, hostile, appointed questions. But the Trump got Trump.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Trump got his answers out clearly on each of these,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: and he knew the environment. In the past, Trump rambled
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: when he was doing interviews, bing bang bang, bang bang.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: He's gotten so much better at this. His whole second
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: term is better than the first term and the communication
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: of it. There's one particular issue, and it's tied to
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: another that I want to focus on here, and that
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: is Obamacare. Obamacare is linked to the government shutdown. The
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Democrats are demanding that in the reconciliation bill that we
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: passed to end the shutdown, that they continue the subsidies
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: for Obamacare. Obamacare, as those of us were arguing at
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: the time that it passed a decade ago, ten eleven
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: years ago, Obamacare financially did not add up. So what
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: they did is they put in enormous subsidies to reduce
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the costs of the premiums. But they put a drop
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: dead data on them, which was ten years. And from
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the perspective of the Democrats at Obama when they passed it,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: we care about ten years down the line. We just
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: want to get this thing through. If they would not
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: have put the deadline, and you know, when the Congressional
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Budget Office scores that they hadn't costs even more, remember
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi's we won't know what's in it until we
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: pass it. Well, they did know this, it didn't add up.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: So what happens is Obamacare's policies and Obamacare is when
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: people are on the exchanges that's Obamacare, they buy these
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: policies that have very very high deductibles, meaning their insurance
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't kick in until they meet the deductible, and they
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: pay a premium that is moderately expensive. It's not a
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: great insurance plan if you're somebody that is goes the
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: doctor a lot or has illness issues. If you never
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: go to the doctor, what do you care if you
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: have a high deductible. The reason, however, that the premiums
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: don't cost fifteen arms in a leg is because these
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: subsidies and well the subsidies are now expiring, and it
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: means that the government has to spend in order to
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: keep these subsidies in place, a massive amount of money.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: And they're trying to claim that Trump has to fix
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: this problem, that Obama and there isn't one republic and
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: who voted for Obamacare. You'll recall it got through the
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: House and the Senate only with Democratic votes, and it
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: was a Domin's plan. It was the time. It was
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: that period of which at Obama's first turned they had
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: the House and the Senate and the White House. So
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: they created this train wreck. And now they're saying the
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Republicans have to solve it. But Obama, would you say,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: you keep your eye Well, we know all of that
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: is unproved. The majority of people on the exchanges have
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: different got us stant In here. This is a piece
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: from just thenews dot com and I'm just going to
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: quote from it. Expert says when he said, if you
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: like your health care plan, you can keep your health
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: care plan. No, you couldn't. Obamacare made a lot of
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: the health those healthcare plans illegal. Let me interject. You
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: may recall that before Obamacare, you could drop a healthcare
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: plan that said anything. Obamacare was one size hits all.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: They all have to cover all of these things, and
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: that meant that the plans are very, very expensive. I mean,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: a single guy who bought a healthcare plan had a
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: pregnancy coverage in all of that. Other infirmities of ACA
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: have been laid out late have been laid out, including
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: nebulous allegations of fraud. After years of Democrats telling the
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: American people the former president of Barack Obama's Affordable Care
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Act was a thriving system. The glaring truth revealed now
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: during the government shutdown is that not only has the
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: ACA resulted in widespread fraud and allegation of kickbacks to
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: insurance companies, the American people are footing the bill for
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: subsidies to hide the fact that Obamacare is broken. Go
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: on to the days of family doctors operating private practices.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Let me pause. How many of you have a family
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: doctor and a private practice. I don't, do you they
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: all work for one of the big healthcare systems, Aurora
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: or all the various names they're all. When I say all,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: it's not all, it's almost all. The independent physicians, the
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: just private clinics not hooked up with anybody, are almost
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: non existent. Back to the discussion here of this, goana
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: the days of family doctors operating private practices. Based on
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: the most recent data from the American Calessos, practice medicine
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: fully independently, not owned or affiliated with hospitals, health systems,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: private equity or insurers make up roughly forty two to
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: forty seven percent of all practicing physicians as of twenty
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: twenty four. Let me inter check. The ones that are
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: a dependent are often specialists, for example, a lot of
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: psychiatrists and physicians and specialty fields. A lot of the
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: radiologists have their own, but in terms of the primary care,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: they're almost all hooked into a system, according to the
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Advisory Board twenty twenty three data showing more than seventy
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: seven percent of physicians are employees of hospitals, health systems
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: or other corporate entities, citing a report from Physicians Advocacy Institute.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: All right, so Obamacare has created all of that, and
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: it's one of the overhangs behind the government shutdown. Trump
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: was asked about this because Norodonald's say, look, if you
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: don't change your plan to bail out obama Care, in
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: other words, continue these subsidies, all these people are going
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: to see massive increases in their premiums. Now before I
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: play you, Trump's answer is very short. I do think
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: the Republicans have to step in here. Let me just
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: start with this, what do you think is on Obamacare?
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I think I asked this on Thursday's podcast, didn't I Yeah,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask it again. Who do you think is
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: that Obamacare it's more Trump voters than not. Obamacare is
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: not Medicaid. First of all, Medicare is senior citizens. Medicaid
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: is poor people. The people on the exchanges are generally
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: lord of middle income to sometimes middle income people for
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: whom they don't have a private healthcare plan available from
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: their work. The realignment of American politics Trump thrived. That's
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: a huge segment of this is the Maga cron Secondly,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: it's not these people's fault that we passed Obamacare and
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: created this thing with this massive subsidy and forced them
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: to buy overly expensive plans. They can't buy a cheap
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: ole plan because it's not legal to sell them under Obamacare.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: It's a terrible hidship for these people if we're gonna
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: explode their health insurance costs. So I think that the
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Republicans do have to stay in and do something. But
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Trump's point, and it's my point, is that's separate from
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: the government shutdown. No, here's Trump and you'll hear Nouro
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Donaldleft CBS kind of butting in on the answer. But
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I think he's trying to get home his point because
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: the Democrats are trying to say that again. You know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: It's just like the old line used to be, the
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Republicans are trying to kill your social Security, the Republicans are
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: taking away your Medicare and so on. And know they're
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: trying to argue that Republicans are trying to take away
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: your Obamacare. Here's Trump's response.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Obamacare is terrible. It's bad healthcare at far too high
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: a price. We should fix that. We should fix it,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: and we can fix it with the Democrats. All they
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: have to do is let the country open and we'll
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: fix it.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: They have to lend the country open.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: And I'll sit down with the Democrats and we'll fix it.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: But they have to let the country and.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: You know what they have to do.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: All they have to do is raise five hands. We
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: don't need all of them. First of all, twenty four seconds,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: he banged the whole thing. We just need to get
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: five more Democrats to vote to reopen the government. And
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: then Trump said, look, then I'll work with the Democrats,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: will come up with the compromise bill to keep some
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: of these subsidies that are in place. And I think
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: that part of it is going to be they want
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: the Republicans want to reform Obamacare to bring back some
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: cheap old plans that don't cover everything, so you get
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: rid of the one size fits all, etc. The insurance companies.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: And again when the Democratic Party just decided that they
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: were going to align themselves with the insurance companies, is
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: what I think that the Democrats just permanently changed. You
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: see it with regard to vaccine policy had happened all
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: the way through COVID. The insurance companies make a fortune
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: off of Obamacare, a fortune because the government is subsidizing
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: the premiums. Imagine in a business in which you're requiring
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: everybody to buy your product and the government is going
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: to pay most of the money that the product costs.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: It's a glorious system for them. And I think that
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Trump and the Republicans will be open to reforming Obamacare
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: with Republican votes in some Democratic votes. But you can't
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: do all of this, well, the government is shut down
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: because it's all these other things included. We don't know
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: if snap, if the food stamp program and so on
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: is going to be funded, and so on. And I
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: thought that Trump did an extremely effective job and getting
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: his point through in that answer, despite the fact that
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Norah O'Donnell was you know hellbend in not letting him
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: get in the answer. The one thing you could tell though,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: is that she was told you can't cut him off.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: She was trying to cut him off. But once Trump
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: just persisted plowing through this, he got through what he
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: got his point he asked on a number of other things.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I want to quickly cover some of his points on
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: illegal immigration, the policy has to be you came into
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: the country illegally, you're going to go out. However, you've
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: also seen you're going to go out, We're going to
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: work with you, and you're going to come back into
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: our country legally. And again that's the answer for all
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: these deportations. If you're not somebody who was a criminal
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: in terms of breaking other laws, you get kicked out
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: of the country, and then you say, stand in line
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: and reapply to come in through the front door as
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: you ought to on the next three years. We have
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: been acknowledged as having the greatest nine months in the
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: history of the presidency. So if I can keep that going,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I'll be very happy. On the Supreme Court's tariff case.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Because of Tiras, we have the highest stock market we've
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: ever had. Because of Tara's four oh, one k's are
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: at their highest level, and this is millions of people
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: than we've ever had. I think it's the most important
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: subject discussed by the Supreme Court in one hundred years.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: He's right about that second point. Does the president have
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: the ability to put in place tariffs without the approval
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: of the Congress. The Constitution in fact doesn't say anything
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: about imposition of tariffs and who does it? It just
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: it's unclear. The Constitution makes it clear the president has
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: the ability to make foreign policy. Declaration of war can
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: only be done by the Congress. All of these things
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: are vague. I do believe that without regard to who
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: the president is, a Democratic president and Republican president, it
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: has to be the decision of the president to do
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: tariff decisions, simply because in a negotiation, you can't go
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: back to the Congress every time one say, you know, okay,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: China says twelve percent, we say eight percent. You can't
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: keep passing a bill for your negotiating position. It's got
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: to be a part of the executive branch decision. The
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: one thing I will say about Trump is I would
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: advise him to stop crowing about the stock market, because
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: while indeed it has roared. It also roared during Biden.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: And my own belief is that the stock market is
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: unbelievably overvalued. Now the thing about overvalued is it can
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: get even more of it. We saw this with the
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: housing market. Things that are way too high can get
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: way too higher. But I just look at this as
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: maybe a fuddy duddy, and I look at the price
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: earnings ratios of some of these companies, and the AI
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: company strike me as they are in a bubble. I mean,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: if AI turns out to be the thing that changes
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: the world, as may well it could be, then the
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: stocks are properly valued. But that doesn't mean that every
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: one of these companies is going to be successful and
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: it's AI initiate. If it's also possible that it will
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: be years before the profits ever match all the investment
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: that they have coming in. So I think the stock
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: markets do for a recketing, and I think a significant pullback.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: But again I get me wrong. But the problem with
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: bragging about the stock market is is that stock market
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: has always done two things in its history. It's gone
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: up and it's gone down. Over the long haul, it
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: keeps going up, but there are terrible downturns in between,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: and the lefties will just pounce on him if it
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: goes down and blame him for the downturn, even though
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: they never gave him any credit for the time that
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: it went up. Another quick point here, this story might
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: have been lost of the shuffle, lost in the shuffle,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: not under the shovel. Well, you can do it under
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: the shovel. That's not what the mob was doing in
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: those crooked card games in which John C. Willis is involved.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Those are card readers, as I understand it. For some reason,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I know about a lot about scams, even though I
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be any good at them. See, I could never
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: be going at cheating at cards because my fingers are
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: too fat. When I see these guys that are, you know,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: dealing from the third card of the deck and so on,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I have enough time just getting them out on the
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: top card of the deck. The card reader thing, though,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I get that you put on these glasses in which
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: you can see through the card and so on, and
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: that's that's what they were doing and doing in that.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: But do I have to explain again? People keep emailing
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: me on this because I keep trying to explain. In
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: the famous scene from this thing, the best scene of
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: this thing when the card game thing were, how did
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Paul Newman switch the threes to the jacks? It's what
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: just I said this, Hey, you've already forgotten it, haven't,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: haven't you when he switched the cards. When he switched
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: the cards, No, it was in his pocket when he
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: went reaches to get the lighter out of the pocket,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: that's where the cards are. Go back and watch that scene.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: It's got like ninety five quintrillion views on YouTube. I
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: think that may be the greatest movie scene of all time,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: don't you. You can hear the review of the train
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: tracks running and a little bit of the horn blowing
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: in the background, and just the reaction shots from the
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: other actors, plus the unbelievable you're talking in that scene.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Robert Shaw was just there's a great line, by the way,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: there's a great line about Robert Shaw being taken by
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Paul Newman in that scene. Back to back epic movies.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Robert Shaw got eaten by a shark. The next movie
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: it was Jaws. Jaws was right out. It was either
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: the other way around. I think it was. It was
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: this thing before Jows. But Card Show, I just, well, yeah,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: that was the guy that set the deck and anyway,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: it's at the beginning in the movie, so it's not
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: a spoiler giveaway. It was the setup for the remainder
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: of this thing. Is one of the great American pictures
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: in there. But when he switches the cards and it
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: was just George roy Hill was the director, and it
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: was just a spectacular correctorial scene. The music's Scott Joplin's music,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: which was adapted by Marvin Hamleysh. It was Scott John's
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Joplin's music and my Harvin Hamlich did the adaptation and
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: just all of that in that scene on the train
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: with the poker game, and you could smell the cigar
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: or smoke in the ear and Newman's pretending that he's drunk,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: and the facial reactions of Shaw and the way it
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: is just the spectacular same. But he switches the cards
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: when he reaches into his pocket for the lighter, and
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: they make they do it. The director does make a
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: big deal of showing not a big deal because they
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: didn't want to give it away. He made a big
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: enough deal of the fact that Newman ReLit the cigar
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: during the middle of that hand and the relighting of
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: the cigar was the reason he had to reach into
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: his pocket to get the lighter, and that's where the
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: four cards were shifted. And why do you know? I've
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: also had people ask you why did you do jacks?
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: How did you know that? You know? Shaw wasn't cheating
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: And earlier in the movie, in the setup, they say
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: that's what he does. That was part of the research
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: that they had done that he's going to swap out
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: his cards and give himself nines. So he knew that
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: it had to be higher than the nights. It's a
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: lot of time explaining something there wasn't it. Sales came
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: up with Lost in the Shuffle. I think lost out
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: of the Shuffle. The leader of Canada, Mark Kearney, is
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: apologizing for that anti tariff ad that ran on football
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: in World Series game Baseball games two weeks ago and
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: then last weekend. The ad was run by the government
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: of the Canadian province of Ontario and it was ripping Trump.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Canada is trying to suck up to Trump because Trump
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: immediately retaliated with more tariffs. The thing with the Canadian
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: American battle on tariff, say, is Trump is the upferhand.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: There's way more the America. Canada needs American trade more
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: than we need Canadian trade. Canada's tried to talk tough
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: with regard to this, but they poke this finger in
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Trump's eyb by running this quote from Reagan and so on. Well,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Carney's trying to claim this wasn't the Canadian government was
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: the government of one state, be like of Trump, and
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: you could see this. Suppose California runs some stupid ad.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Trump could say, that's California, We apologize for that. The
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: difference here is is that the government of Ontario and
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: the Canadian government, Carney, they're both members of the Liberal Party.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: It's the same government ad. I think Carney is just
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: trying to make it up to Trump after they The
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: one thing you don't want to do is provoke Trump unnecessarily.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Sometimes his adversaries will provoke him necessarily. That's the game
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Putin's trying to play. But there's no point in provoking
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Trump unnecessarily because Trump has made it very very clear
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: that no matter how hard you hit him, he's going
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: to hit you back even harder. Some of you may
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: have followed the fact that the best race source im
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: own special wand ran over the weekend on the undercard
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: of the Breeders Cup undercard, and she was not int
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: a Breeders Cup race, but she ran at del Mar
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: in the final race Saturday before the Breeders' Cup races started.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: It was a Grade three stakes and probably ran the
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: best race of her career, and we posted it on x.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: It was just it was as dominant a performance as
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: you can imagine. And sometimes a dirt races the horse
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: will run up by twenty five links and so on.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Turf racing is different. But she sat second and just
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: went to the lead, even though the jockey was restraining
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: her and trying to have her not go too fast
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: too early. She did it all on her own and
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: ran away and hid. She is. Today's a big day
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: for me. She is up for auction this evening. The
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: big sale of the fall is the face of Tipton
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Sail in Kentucky, and she does go onto the auction block.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: So the timing of a spectacular race is just perfect.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: And anyone who buys her could retire her and breed her,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: or they could buy her and continue to race it
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: for another year. Given the fact that she's gotten way better,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: the one thing she hasn't done is win a Grade one.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: She won three grade threes this year, and this was
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: a Grade three. She only ran in one Grade one
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and she finished third in that, but she does so
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: she does go on to the auction hammer tonight, along
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  Speaker 2: with another horse that I own. There is a thing
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  Speaker 2: called the reserve, and I can't tell you what it is.
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  Speaker 2: But if we don't get our price, she won't sell.
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  Speaker 2: And it's kind of a win win situation because she's
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  Speaker 2: so good that it would be a great thing to
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  Speaker 2: continue to own and race her. But if we do
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  Speaker 2: get a strong, solid price for her based on what
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  Speaker 2: we think that she's worth, and we take the money,
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  Speaker 2: and so well. You can bid online, but there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the big ones are in person, but many
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: bidders are online and they're or on the phone with
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: a bitter in place, or they'll do it online and
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: they're texting somebody from the thing. The majority of the
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: bidders are there, but some of the big foreigners are not.
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  Speaker 2: But in this particular watch it is live with the
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  Speaker 2: people in there doing it and so on. But there
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  Speaker 2: are others that are bidding remotely with someone in the
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: room bidding on their behalf. Then obviously it's a great
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  Speaker 2: secret as to what the reserve would be that we have,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: but very very thrilled with all will she did and
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  Speaker 2: no matter which way it goes, it would I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if we sell her, I hope it's for a wamping
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  Speaker 2: incredible price. But if we don't sell her, got an
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  Speaker 2: extremely good female resource. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling podcast. This just was announced
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  Speaker 2: today and I'm doing the podcast then Monday afternoon, just
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  Speaker 2: announce it. The Brewers have announced the date and time
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  Speaker 2: for opening day next year, March twenty six, one ten pm.
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  Speaker 2: The White six March twenty six. It gets earlier and earlier.
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  Speaker 2: There's just one thing to say about this, Paul. It's
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  Speaker 2: a good dog. One thing. We have a rough March
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  Speaker 2: twenty six. You imagine that thing being played, and there
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  Speaker 2: are going to be I mean, everybody opens within a
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  Speaker 2: day of one another. They're going to be other teams
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  Speaker 2: in cold weather cities where they're going to be playing
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  Speaker 2: baseball in March twenty six. Last this past year's all
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  Speaker 2: I think was later in the afternoon. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if it's connected, but I do I do wonder if
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  Speaker 2: the fact that the opponent is the White Sox has
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  Speaker 2: them starting at one ten because my three ten White
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Sox fans are going to be so I mean, Brewer
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: fans are bombed too, but White Sox fans have a
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: capacity for drinking not match. You know, the Cubs fans
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: come up here and they're the pain in the butt
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  Speaker 2: that they were. But back in the oldiest and the
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  Speaker 2: ruwers in the American League, white Sox fans came up here.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there were fights all the time. The White
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  Speaker 2: Sox have been so terrible forever though that I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that they'd have any o their fans coming up
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  Speaker 2: to watch them play. And plus it's their fan base
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  Speaker 2: is small, and then they're on the South side of Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: Most of their face. You know, the Cubs have a
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: zillion fans in southern Wisconsin, but not so much White Sox. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: March twenty six, or to the Thursday is Opening day
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: for the Brewers. Other Brewers news, they did announce the
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: gold Glove winners. That's the best fielder at each position.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: That was last night, and they do separate for the
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  Speaker 2: America in the National League, not one Brewer when a
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  Speaker 2: gold Glove. I'm just the Brewers had the best fielding
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  Speaker 2: team in baseball, and maybe the best fielding team that
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  Speaker 2: I've ever seen. Every single Brewer defensive player was outstanding,
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  Speaker 2: every single one. There wasn't a defender that they had
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  Speaker 2: on the team who wasn't good, and several that were brilliant,
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  Speaker 2: and not one of them won. They had two Brewers
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  Speaker 2: who one go gloves in the past, and neither one.
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  Speaker 2: There's nobody who. I can't say I watch every team's
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  Speaker 2: fielder in each position that closely, but r in the
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: nation of the league them. You know what's really revolting.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Three cups won Get Me Up Break, including two of
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: them one at positions in which the Brewer Nico Horner,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: beat out Bryce to Rang at second base. Should I
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: remind people of Nico Horner committing a terrible error in
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: the playoffs against the Brewers in a series that we
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: beat them. The right field, I mean Sal Freeley plays
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: right field usually you know right fielder is not a
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: good field that the Brewers have a unique situation with
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: all of their other field there so good that sales
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: over there on right field. He did not win in
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: right field. Fernando Tatis Junior, the podres one, the center
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  Speaker 2: fielder is Pete crow Armstrong now here the Brewers. Blake
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Perkins is the best center fielder I think in baseball,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: but he played very little. He was out most of
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: the year. Jackson Churio played the position brilliantly before he
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: came back, so I can get that the Brewer didn't
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: win it because nobody really held on that position all year.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Then Ian a half of the Cubs. He wins in
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: left field. So I mean and again, Churio played left
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: field and center field, and we had the other part
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: of the season in left field, Isaac Collins, I mean,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Isaac Collins played great in left field defensively as well,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: but he wasn't a full time left fielder. Patrick Bailey
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: of the Giants, I admit I don't know anything about him,
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: but I can't see how anybody could have been a
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: better defensive catcher than William Catreroz. So the Brewer, you know,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Joey Ortiz was brilliant at shortstop. Mason win of the
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Cardinals won it there. So the Brewers didn't have a
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: single guy to win a Gold Glove. Baseball season did
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: end Saturday night. The World Series isn't what it used
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: to be because the playoffs go on so long, but
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: I will say this that was one of the greatest
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: baseball games of all time. First of all, it's game seven,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: which means, you know, do or die, winner, take all
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: five to four. The Dodgers beat the Blue Jays. The
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Dodgers were down by a run with one out in
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  Speaker 2: the top of the ninth inning, hit a home run
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: off the blue Jays closer. The blue Jays bullpen wasn't
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: very good all year to tie the game. A lot
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: of people are talking about and I want to make
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: this point here, and it's how I end the podcast.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I just keep explaining all the time in every sport
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: that it is it takes an incredible amount of luck
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: and the whole game of inches thing. When the Bocks
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: won the NBA Championship now four years ago, some people
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: forget that if Kevin Durant's toe was not on the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: three point line in Game series of the Eastern Conference Semifinals,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Durant hit what should have been a three point shot
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: to win the game. Upon replay, I'm telling you less
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: than an inch of his toe was on the line
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: and it was only a two. The Bucks went in overtime,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: went on to win the next two series, and won
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: the NBA Championship Game of inches. There was a play
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: in the much debated now that could have resulted in
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: the World Series being decided on an instant replay. The
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Blue Jays had the winning run on third base. There
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: was a ball that was hit to the Dodgers second baseman,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: who ended up hitting game winning homer, But prior to that,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: the ball was hit to the Dodger second basemen. The
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: infield is in because they have to throw to the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: plate to stop the winning run from scoring, and the Dodgers'
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: second basement kind of he was off ballance when he
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: got the ball, it had a hard time getting rid
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: of it. The guy that was on third base for
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: the Blue Jays kind of Felifa did not have much
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: of a lead. This is just being discussed right and left.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Why when you're the winning run don't you have a
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: huge lead in The Blue Jay had been playing it
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: that way all year. They didn't want him doubled off
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: a third of a line drive. As a result, he
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: got a slower break on the ball than he might
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: have otherwise gotten. So they throw the paw to the plate.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: It's bang, bang, and the umpire calls him out upon
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: replay the game of inches. The Dodgers catcher Will Smith,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: in reaching for the throw, lifts his foot off the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: plate just a little bit as he's straining, and then
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: of course your foot comes down. The replay he got
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: the foot back down and contacted the plate tenth of
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: a second before kind of Felifa got home. But if
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: he hadn't, the replay would have overturned it and you
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: would have had games. The Baseball's worldteries decided on a replay,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: which would have been debated as well. I don't think
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: anybody would have wanted that so for and the homeplate
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: umpire got the call correctly live, but I don't even
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: think that he would have known that the foot came
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: both up and down when it happened. Well, and just
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: as just saying it just it just shows you the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: game of inches, you know. Component of of this, There
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: were several other things that happened during the game in
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: which the Blue Jays could have won. Dodgers managed to
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: homer to tie it in the ninth in and would
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: go ahead in the tenth, and the Blue Jays had
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: a chance to score on the tenth and they didn't.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: And the other great story about the game is Yamamoto,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Yoshinobul Yamamoto, the other Asian American Dodger pitcher, not Shohei Otani,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: who's been brilliant throughout the postseason. He did one of
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: those things that just isn't done anymore. In fact, it's
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: hardly ever been done. He won Game six as a
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: starter and came in and got the final eight outs
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: of the game in Game seven functioning as the closer.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: So after going I think he threw like ninety six
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: pitches the day before he came in and got the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: last eight outs. He's just you know, teams don't like
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: to use their closers and back to back nights much late,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: and they don't like to use the closer more than
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: as a game said, well they went, they used whatever
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: other start is. They took Blake Snell out of the bullten.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: He's the ace of the team. He pitched and he
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: was removed, and that were just simping to use everybody.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Had the game been another eighteen inning game like earlier,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: both teams would have run out of pitchers, but Yamamono
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: managed to close it out in both the ninth and
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: the tenth. The Dodger that Blue Days could have won
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: the game outright in the ninth and then tied it
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: in the tenth with that one run league and he
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: pitched his way through it. So this whole thing, Wow,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers shouldn't have want I look past all. It
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: was just a great game. And I also think that
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: this is karma against Canada for running that ad. That
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: that's what I decided. I wanted the Dodgers to win.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: When Canada channeling Reagan, they take a Reagan ad out
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: of context to take a shot at PROMP And now
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: the Canadian Prime Minister is apologizing and the Canadian team
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: lost the World Series. Would you say, oh, that was
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the during the season too, right, No, but I think
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: he did it during the season when had happened as well.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Trying to remember who that was, but I don't know
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: who it is, so we won't mention it. Here the
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: tribute that one of the Dodgers had to Charlie Kirk.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: All right, that's it for today's podcast. Next one is
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