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O'Brien & Doug S5:E16 [March 3, 2022 This Week in Music] · O'Brien & Doug

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  SPEAKER_00: What do you got in mind for me?
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  SPEAKER_12: This.
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  SPEAKER_12: Yo, yo, this.
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  SPEAKER_12: This is the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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  SPEAKER_10: Why don't you stand on the basement with your little friend?
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  SPEAKER_12: Welcome to the ol' Brian and Doug podcast.
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  SPEAKER_12: I'm O'Brien.
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  SPEAKER_12: I'm Doug.
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  SPEAKER_12: Hello.
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  SPEAKER_12: Hello, my friend.
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  SPEAKER_12: I'm alright.
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  SPEAKER_12: Wait.
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  SPEAKER_12: I said, hello, my friend.
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  SPEAKER_12: You just you just you do!
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  SPEAKER_03: That happens to me all the time.
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  SPEAKER_03: I didn't tell you.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was in Walmart the uh the other day.
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh so I uh I'm I'm walking with my kid, and this woman that I know and and her boyfriend, they're walking towards us.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so we make eye contact, and as I'm still walking toward her, I I say, I say hey, and she says, Hey.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then she goes, How you doing?
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  SPEAKER_03: And I said, Good thanks.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then there's a person behind me walking behind me that she's talking to.
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  SPEAKER_11: Oh yeah, that's even worse.
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  SPEAKER_11: That's even worse.
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  SPEAKER_11: It was crazy.
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  SPEAKER_12: I felt in my my kid was like, you know, she was stupid.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh season five, episode 16.
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  SPEAKER_03: 16 in the book.
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  SPEAKER_03: 16.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and we're going to so what what no no no no what number is this?
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  SPEAKER_11: This is number 93.
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  SPEAKER_03: 93.
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  SPEAKER_11: So we got seven more to go.
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  SPEAKER_03: Seven more to go till the end of the season.
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  SPEAKER_03: So um yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was an interesting weekend.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh let me tell you this.
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  SPEAKER_03: We we uh my kid had another basketball tournament.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's all spring is or or or end of winter is for me, is basketball.
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  SPEAKER_03: Basketball, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Back and forth downstate, man, and it's expensive.
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  SPEAKER_11: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um we were coming back Sunday night and we got caught in that snow squirrel.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: I heard a lot of people.
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  SPEAKER_11: Holy cow.
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  SPEAKER_03: Luckily, my wife was driving.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's good.
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  SPEAKER_03: But um I was like navigating.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was like, okay, you need to go a little bit more to the left, a little bit more to the left, because I can see the white line on the on the right side.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just see the white line.
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  SPEAKER_03: Barely, barely, but I could see it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the this is one part where the rumble strips in the middle that they put in the middle comes in handy.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, sure, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because she would she would kind of you know sway over to the left, and when she hit the rumble strip, she knew where she was.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that was that was good.
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  SPEAKER_03: But it was terrifying, like literally terrifying.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I can't even she was white knuckling it.
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  SPEAKER_11: Oh, I bet, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's not a drinker.
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  SPEAKER_11: Especially, especially at night, man.
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  SPEAKER_11: I mean, snow squalls during the day, yeah, they suck, but at least it's not, you know, disorientating.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right and it really was because you know, as this as it's snowing, remember that like the beginning of Star Wars?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, when the yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or maybe it's Star Trek or whatever, where the stars are coming in.
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  SPEAKER_11: Oh no, it's when the Millennium Falcon goes into light hyperspaces.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, imagine that, like, just all the time.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And she is like, she is disoriented.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's trying to it doesn't take long either.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, no, it's she and so she doesn't know where she is.
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  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, she she gets home and she's not a drinker, but she she poured herself a little bit of brandy.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I believe it.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's like, I need this, you know, because that was Yeah, bring it down.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was nerve-wracking.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we were getting alerts on our phone.
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  SPEAKER_03: Were you getting those two?
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  SPEAKER_03: That's never happened before that I know of.
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  SPEAKER_11: No, I I've seen it before, but really it's it's got to be something pretty massive.
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  SPEAKER_11: You know, because with everything that's been going on, I was thinking, you know, first thing I heard, I heard these things go off.
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  SPEAKER_11: I'm thinking, yeah, Russia did it.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yep, they launched.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to get into the weeds on that, but do you think that I mean, where do you think that's going?
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  SPEAKER_03: It's nowhere good.
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  SPEAKER_03: Nowhere good.
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  SPEAKER_03: No.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's not good.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's of course it's not good at all.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's it's there's nothing good about it.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I think the intentions are But it was an inevitable.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think it was not only inevitable, but I think we're in it more than we think we're in it.
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  SPEAKER_11: Well, not at the moment, but we will be.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't mean that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean I think I think there's a reason that uh we're trying to defend Ukraine's border.
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  SPEAKER_11: Well, yeah, because that's where all the good stuff is.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think I think we have interest in there.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's that's you know, we have more interest there than we do our own border, which is I mean Hunter Biden's got all kinds of stuff going on.
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  SPEAKER_11: That's what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_11: We gotta he's gotta have his uh you know his birthright.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I I just think it's there's a lot to it that we don't know about.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, I can't confirm or anything, but I just think it and it's so sad.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's just so sad.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um anyway, that's all I want to say about that.
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  SPEAKER_11: But I did that.
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  SPEAKER_11: I did uh I watched uh I watched a cut I w Have you seen American Underdog yet?
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  SPEAKER_03: I haven't.
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  SPEAKER_03: We've been wanting to.
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  SPEAKER_11: Pretty good.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah?
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it was really good.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_11: You know, I have a lot more respect for Kurt Warner as a as a person than as a foot pilot.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I always did too, but I now that I've watched that movie and got his backstory, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: You know, I got a lot more respect for him.
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  SPEAKER_03: Did you stream it?
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: You did?
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: I didn't go to the movie theater.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: Uh I think I missed it when it was in the theater.
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  SPEAKER_03: So we just missed it because we were we were away and we were planning on going.
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  SPEAKER_11: But it was really good.
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  SPEAKER_11: It's worth a watch.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: And then I watched this uh biography on the Ultimate Warrior.
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  SPEAKER_11: Remember him?
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  SPEAKER_11: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_11: From WWF?
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  SPEAKER_11: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_11: That dude had some issues, man.
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  SPEAKER_11: Really?
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: I didn't even know his real name until that.
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  SPEAKER_11: That's why I wanted to watch it.
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  SPEAKER_11: I was like, I you know, I've I remember this guy from the 80s when we were all back, you know, we were all into WWE.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_11: I never knew what his name was.
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  SPEAKER_11: I didn't think he had a name.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, of course not.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was his name.
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  SPEAKER_03: He was Ultimate Warrior.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's all anybody ever called him.
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  SPEAKER_03: You didn't know The Rock, did you, until he started acting.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Dwayne the Rocky.
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  SPEAKER_03: This guy.
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  SPEAKER_11: I had no idea what his name was.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_11: His name was Jim Hellwig.
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  SPEAKER_11: Jim.
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  SPEAKER_11: I've heard that name before.
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  SPEAKER_11: But then later in life he changed his last name to Warrior.
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  SPEAKER_11: Really?
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  SPEAKER_11: He really did, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: Jim Warrior.
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  SPEAKER_11: Because they were because he's passed away now.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: Um, but they were like interviewing his wife and his two daughters.
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  SPEAKER_11: Right.
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  SPEAKER_11: And they were like, you know, it would come up on the screen.
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  SPEAKER_11: It was like uh one daughter's name Madigan.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_11: It was like Madigan Warrior.
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  SPEAKER_11: So he their their name changed too?
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  SPEAKER_11: Well, no, he changed it, and then when he got married, they all, of course, they all took away Oh, so he changed it before before he got married, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: Wow, okay.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, they were like interviewing his wife, Dana Warrior, and I'm like Okay.
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  SPEAKER_11: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_11: Alright.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, so he was an interesting character.
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  SPEAKER_11: So it was kind of cool, but it was kind of cool to just it was just nostalgic because it all went back to you know when he was like, you know, super popular, you know, and everything like that.
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  SPEAKER_11: I was just like, wow, that is Ultimate Warrior, man.
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  SPEAKER_11: We used to love Ultimate Warrior.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: So I thought it was pretty cool.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_11: Uh you remember Jimmy Super Superflash Snooker.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: I watched a biography on him not too long ago.
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  SPEAKER_11: Did you?
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, he was kind of a I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_11: I feel bad for these wrestlers.
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  SPEAKER_11: They kind of kind of get messed up along the way.
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  SPEAKER_11: Of course they do.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: It's it's a it's a it's a tougher it's a tougher gig than just just the physical part of it.
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  SPEAKER_11: Right.
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  SPEAKER_11: There's a lot of pressure on the outside of it because you're constantly on the road and performing and you know, it's it's an it's not a good lifestyle.
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  SPEAKER_11: Right.
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  SPEAKER_11: So and then there's Vince McMahon, but you know.
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  SPEAKER_11: Who?
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_03: So uh I'm trying to think if I if I watched anything uh good.
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  SPEAKER_03: No.
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  SPEAKER_03: My kids went to watch um that new uh actually it wasn't my kids, it was one of my kids.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um the new one with Mark Wahlberg and um it was in the theaters.
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  SPEAKER_11: Crap.
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  SPEAKER_11: I didn't know Mark Wahlberg had a new movie out there.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh it's Mark Wahlberg and the guy from Spider-Man.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's and it's based on Spider-Man?
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's based on a video game.
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  SPEAKER_11: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_11: I think you're you're Uncharted?
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  SPEAKER_11: Oh Uncharted.
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  SPEAKER_11: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: Was that in the theater?
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it was.
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  SPEAKER_11: I didn't know that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, he said it was just okay.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_03: It was just okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't it wasn't that great.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_03: It was it was fine.
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  SPEAKER_11: Well, at least I uh Spider-Man kids, you know, moving on from Spider-Man.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Has he been in other movies?
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  SPEAKER_03: I think he has.
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  SPEAKER_11: He probably has, but you know, at least he, you know, he's got a you know, he's not gonna be just Spider-Man the rest of his life, you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_03: So uh I thought what we do today is just kind of go uh this day in in music, you know, kind of reminisce on what a couple things that happened.
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  SPEAKER_03: I remember back when March 3rd.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and maybe what's uh just make like music news.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just talk about what's going on in the this week in in in music.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sounds good.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um so this day Oh, by the way.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh yes.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_11: After we after the uh uh the uh the thing we're doing right now, podcast, that's what it's called.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_11: Uh I went and downloaded the great white tribute album to Led Zeppelin.
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  SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_11: I know, right?
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  SPEAKER_11: You wouldn't I went and played actual Led Zeppelin albums against this, and I was like, there isn't much difference.
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  SPEAKER_11: I know, I know, and I have it was amazing.
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  SPEAKER_11: I have not and that's when I learned about Dire Maker is not pronounced Dire Maker, it's pronounced Jam Maker.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right, like it's it's for Jamaica.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: It's based on an old British joke, apparently, about sending his wife, guy sends his wife to the West Indies is Jamaker.
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  SPEAKER_11: Right.
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  SPEAKER_11: So you know, it's a really bad joke, but yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: Apparently it became a song title, and I've been pronouncing it wrong for years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, I think most people, I mean, when they see the spelling of it, dire maker, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_11: And apparently they put the apostrophes of apostrophes in just to mess with people.
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  SPEAKER_03: So screw you, Zeppelin.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_03: I have I have uh No Quarter, I have Stairway to Heaven, and I have Um Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, and I think another one uh that Great White did of uh lead Zeppelins.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_03: I don't have the album.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_03: I don't have the whole album, but the whole album is just awesome.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's amazing.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: It's amazing how much they sound like Zeppelin.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, uh this day, speaking of uh Zeppelin, we weren't.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: We were.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway.
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  SPEAKER_03: We were, but we weren't.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_03: We were so this day in 1966, Neil Young, Steven Stills, and Richie Fure formed Buffalo Springfield in Los Angeles.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um what's that sound?
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  SPEAKER_11: It's right Buffalo Springfield.
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  SPEAKER_11: For what it's worth, right?
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and then they had um Mr.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_03: Soul, I think.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_03: Or no, wait, that's a Neil Young song.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or was it Buffalo Springfield?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_11: I don't remember.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_11: Well, I mean, look at our on Spotify.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_11: Oh wait.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_11: Oh wait.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_03: But that would be kind of considered no, it wouldn't be really a super group because Steven Stills, I don't think, was in another band before that.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_03: Because Steven Stills went on to Crosby, Steels, and Nash and Young.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_03: And Neil Young went from that to Crosby Steels and Nash and Young.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_03: And he had a solo career there as well.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um but but that's kinda I would consider that kind of a supergroup.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_03: I wanted to talk about supergroups.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_03: This is kind of a bad segue to it.
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  SPEAKER_03: But it works.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh it works.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um you've heard of Frontiers Records.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I want to get your opinion on the way they do business.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not criticizing the way they do business.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um or the way their their their structure is.
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  SPEAKER_03: Frontiers Records is a band out of or a um record label out of Italy.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think it's Italy.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_11: I'm not exactly sure what it is.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_03: I'm pretty sure it's Italy.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't think it's America.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_03: And uh Serafino something is the owner of it.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_03: And he's just this big melodic rock, heavy metal fan that put this record label together and is trying almost single-handedly to keep a lot of this music alive.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_03: Because you don't hear um like a lot of the bands from the 80s, you don't hear them on the radio.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_03: They're new stuff on the radio because they're playing the new rock or the classic rock, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Like all the hits.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but these a lot of these bands are still making music.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's he he the way he does it is he licenses uh a new like for example, Night Ranger.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um when they put out a new album, he licensed uh they license the album to Frontiers Records, so Frontiers Records distributes the album uh puts up a lot of the money to record it and promotes it.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_03: And and it's on Frontiers Records, and they have a new album, okay?
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_03: And a lot of the bands from the 80s or or the like do that.
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  SPEAKER_03: They go through Frontiers Records.
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  SPEAKER_03: Rick Springfield did a couple records with Frontiers Records.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um a lot of uh a lot of those uh 80s, up-and-coming 80s bands, not they're not up and coming anymore.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: But you know what I mean.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_03: The big the big 80s.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um they they do that, they hook up with Frontiers Records.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_03: But the what the other thing that Frontiers Records does is throw bands together.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'll give you an example.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um they had a band called crap, what's the name of it?
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_03: I have the album.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_03: It is anyway.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_03: It's got Robin Macaulay from Macaulay's Shanker Group.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's got Reb Beach from Winger.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's got Jeff Pilson from Dawkins, and then and another drummer.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: I can't remember the drummer's name.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_11: The drummer's always a rando.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_11: It's like damn Yankees.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_11: I mean, you know, it's Tommy Shaw, Jack Blades, Ted Nugent, other guy.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_03: I wanna I wanna I wanna tell you the name of the band because I can't think of it right now.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_03: It is uh holy cow, that's gonna bug me.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um Robin Macaulay has one of my favorite songs by the Macaulay Shanker group.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Anytime.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_03: Have you ever heard that song?
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_03: Probably.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: Anytime.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_03: Anytime.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_11: You won't make it.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: The band was called Black Swan.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and and they put together an album and they put the album out, and they didn't tour or anything to promote it.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: Which is kind of what Frontiers does.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_03: They just kind of get these creative people that used to make this kind of music together and make new music just to put it out for those people that love it.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Stryper has put out uh albums on Frontiers Records.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Jack Blades from Dranger.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um a band called uh there's a band there's a British band called FM.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh their lead singer got together with a couple of other uh uh people and and started a band called Groundbreaker, and they just put out their second album on Frontiers Records.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_03: They don't tour, they don't go they don't play live, they just put out new music.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um and uh I think I know why, you know, because it's it's a way to keep the music alive and make some money.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um I can't imagine they make a lot of money uh as far as sales goes, but maybe I'm wrong.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_03: What did you what do you think of that model?
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_11: I think it's pretty brilliant, actually.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah?
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_11: Why not?
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_11: I mean, if they're not if they want to do something and nobody else is doing anything, it's like, hey, hey, you it's like it's like hey, it's like a pickup game of baseball.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_11: You know, hey, you you you wanna play, you wanna play, you wanna play, let's play.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: And then you know and you gotta think that especially um especially well, Sweet Lynch, yeah, Michael Sweet from Striper, George Lynch, from Donkin, they put it they put together a a group and they put out a couple of albums.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_03: Didn't tour uh that I know of.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_11: I don't think so.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but they put out and they were great, some of them they were great albums.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're actually pretty good.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um who else?
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, well Revolution Saints.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_03: Which was Dean Castronovo of of Journey, Jack Blades, Doug Aldrich, who played with uh uh Whitesnake for a while.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and I think that was it, just those three, right?
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was just the three of them.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_03: Just those three, yeah.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_03: Revolution Saints, who put out two great albums.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um but didn't tour.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, they may play may have played a couple of shows.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_11: Uh would you consider Dead Daisies?
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_11: Uh Dead Daisies?
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I think but were they were put together by Frontiers though?
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_11: I don't know if they were put together by Frontiers, but Doug Aldridge was in the Doug Aldridge was in that, yeah.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean uh it's especially in the pandemic, right?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_03: During the pandemic where they they're they couldn't go out and play anywhere.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_03: Um I could see these guys that are sitting around doing nothing, want to be creative, and they get a phone call.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, well, I want you to be a part of this project.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um and they they create music, which is what they do.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's it's that's their livelihood and it's it's what they enjoy doing.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: And uh there's another one, there's a brand new one, and this is one of the reasons I'm talking about this.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: Because I'm a big Night Ranger fan.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm not I've told you the story about Brad Gillis, right?
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_03: The guitar player.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: I went and saw a Night Ranger with my oldest son, and uh was uh I'm not gonna say disappointed, but Brad Gillis is kind of a goof.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he's kind of a jerk.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_03: He he's a fantastic guitar player, incredible guitar player.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_03: But I don't know, watching him on stage, it was like, you know how old you are, dude?
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_11: It's not it's not sexy.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_11: No, it's not sexy in the beginning.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_03: No, it's sexy now.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_11: No, it's not.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_11: Just doing worse now.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but he has uh a new band.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um let's see.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_03: I wanna I wanna get it right here.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: There's a there was a lead singer from Brazil that the guy from um from uh Frontiers Records, Serafino, uh heard, and it was like, this guy's got an amazing voice.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: And uh Serafino Perugan is the guy's name.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um the singer is Renan Zonta, uh from the Brazilian rock band Electric Mob.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, he got that guy together with Brad Gillis from Night Ranger, uh Billy Sheehan from Mr.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_03: Big, bass player, and drummer David Huff, who plays with Giant.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_11: Um, what was the name of that band that Billy Sheen was just in with Richie Cotson and uh Mike Portnoy?
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_11: Exactly.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Winery Dogs.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_03: Winery Dogs, yeah.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: That's a Frontiers Records band.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_11: Yep.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and they those were great albums.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_11: Those were really good albums, yeah.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_03: And uh Richie Cotson and um uh Adrian Smith, I think, from uh Iron Maiden.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_03: They have a group.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: Do they?
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_11: That's just weird.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um the guy uh Doug uh Pinnock from King's X, George Lynch, and another guy.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_03: You you know the drummer.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_03: Whatever, just insert drummer here.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: They have a group They're just disposable.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_03: They have a group called KXM or something like that, and that's pretty good stuff.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: Uh let's see.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he thought it'd be cool.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: So he put those those guys together.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_03: They have uh a new album that's coming out.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um and they have a song.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_03: I just I'm not gonna play, I'm not gonna play the song through here because I don't think you'll be able to hear it.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I want you to just you remember how we're we're talking about Brad Gillis?
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_03: Watch watch him in this video.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_11: Wise there football.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_11: Is this part of it?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, you can you hear that?
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_03: Looking straight at the camera, really mean like I feel bad for that girl.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, look at that.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_11: What's that?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_11: I feel bad for that girl.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: So so that's a little bit of stop the world.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_03: And uh the guy's voice is okay.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_03: It was it was decent.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um and but just Brad Gillis in that video.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I suppose you're a rock star.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_03: You should act like a rock star, right?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: I there's a limit, man.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_03: It does.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: It turns me off a little bit.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_11: Well, I mean, it was cool when we were 13.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_11: You're like, oh yeah, that guy's so cool.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_11: When you're 50, it's not cool anymore, man.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_11: You're just a dork.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_11: Just just play your guitar, man.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_11: You know what I mean?
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, we know you can play.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_11: I mean, I feel bad for you that you had to take Randy Rhodes' place after he died.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah, that was you know, I mean, that sucks for you, but he only did that for like one tour, right?
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but that doesn't give you right to be a douchebag the rest of your life.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_11: I mean, come on, man.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_11: Get it just just play your guitar.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_11: You don't we don't need to see the little poses and little faces, man.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_11: We're we're past that now.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_03: So And I I don't know, I I guess I don't understand the the need for that stuff.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_11: Well, I think Nita Strauss said it best, she's like, all guitar players want to show off.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's true.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_11: So um I think I think that's part of it.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_11: It's just, you know, you gotta have that that that you know, the mannerisms and the aura and the you know, the you know, I'm the guitar player.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_11: Look at me.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_03: That's true.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: To a lesser extent for me, what now that I'm forty-eight, you know, I don't care if I don't I don't want to show off.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to play.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: But there was a time when I was like, hey.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, of course.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, of course, man.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so I'm gonna play a little bit of this.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of people don't know that this was a cover.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_03: You recognize the song?
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_03: This is displayed.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: The original version.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_03: Which I didn't know that on this day in uh 1973, this song entered the UK at number one, making Slade the first act to achieve that since the Beatles.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_11: To enter as number one?
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_11: That's cool.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_03: I remember when the Beatles had like they had like four or five.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_11: Just every time they put a song out, it went number one.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 23:26
  unknown: Yeah.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_03: But Slade was the first one.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_11: Paul McCartney could have fired it into a microphone and they would have put it to number one at one point.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_11: So I mean, you know.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_11: Uh I I just thought that was I I actually prefer the uh Quiet Riot version better.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_03: To be honest with you.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_03: Because I mean we're that's what we're familiar with for a while.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_11: But even just listening to that, I'm like, this is kind of eh.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_11: You know, kind of blah.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um Foo Fighters made their live debut on this day in 1995.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_11: Now was this what because it was just Dave.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_11: He just did the record each is the full band.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: This is the full band.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_11: Because he recorded the first album all by himself.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_11: Most of it, yes.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_03: So um, but uh so this was when he he recruited the band members.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: And um their live debut was a benefit show at the Satiricon in Portland, Oregon.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_03: On this day in 1995.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_03: Have you are you gonna go see the uh the uh uh Studio 666, the new Foo Fighters movie?
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_11: I'm not gonna go out to see it.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_11: I'll probably wait till it shows up on streaming at some point.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_11: But I'll probably watch it just because I like Dave.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: Dave is pretty awesome.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_11: And he's been doing a lot of uh And I like Fo I I like the Foo Fighters as people.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_11: You know, just you know, seeing all them r interact with each other, you know.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_11: They just did you ever watch a Foo Fighter video?
• 24:45
  unknown: Yeah.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_11: You see how much fun they have making videos.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_03: They're a fun band.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_11: They're a fun band.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_11: So I mean you you can't help but I mean it's I'm not into the slasher horror movie.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not that's not my and this is it just to just to uh uh qualify this and and give you a little bit of a a warning, um this is a gory movie from what I understand.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, that's what that's my understanding.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_03: But it's like all in fun.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_11: It's like a it's like I think I think it's a spoof of that genre.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_03: But there's I mean I saw I saw I followed uh Dave Grohl on Instagram.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_03: And there's a part where he's like eating his own guts.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like And it's it and it it's pretty gory.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: I mean it you could tell it's well, I don't know if you could tell it's fake, but I'm obviously it's fake.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_03: But it's so it's one of those.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's one of those, it's a it's a gore fest.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_11: It'd be like it'd be like one of those rob zombie movies.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, you know, yeah type uh except just backing off a little bit, yeah from that.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: So so I don't know if I'd see it because I I don't like that type of stuff, but I do like Dave Grohl and I do love the I love those I love those guys.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_11: I might just just just to see them.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_03: He's been doing a lot of promotion for the for the movie.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_03: And there was a there was an episode he did with on the James Corden show with uh Hillary Duff.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_03: He they were Hillary Duff and Dave Grohl were the guests.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: And there was a little bit that they did.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_03: It was actually quite funny.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh sure.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_03: Dave Dave either Dave was really getting annoyed or he's a really good actor.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_03: I think he's a really good actor, to be honest with you.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_03: Because I can't see Dave Grohl getting annoyed.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_11: I can't realize he's he's he's such he's one of the most laid-back people on the planet.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_11: So but I'm sure he does at some point.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_03: All right, back to this day in rock history on this day in March 2003.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_03: Ray Jackson, who found fame with Lindisfarne.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_03: Not sure who that is.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_03: Lindisfarne?
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_03: Lind Lindisfarne.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, is that a band?
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_03: Must be a band.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_11: I thought you said Linda's Farn.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_11: I was like, that's a weird name for a band.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Ray Jackson took out legal action against Rod Stewart over his 70s hit Maggie Mae, claiming that he came up with the worldwide hit's classic mandolin melody.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_03: The at the thing the thing at the end.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um and he he may have lost at least a million uh pounds, which is which is equivalent to six American dollars.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_11: No.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say I was gonna say But I was gonna say it's a significant weight loss.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_03: It is.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_03: He must have been huge.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um because he was not credited for the track's distinctive hook.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he was paid just 15 pounds for the recording session in 1971.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_03: And so he was a session player.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_03: And we've talked about this before.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_03: How whatever a session if you're hired as a session player and you come up with a unless the artist's uh artist wants to um because some artists will do that, like if you came up with something that's pretty significant on this song, and they'll say, Well, I'm gonna give you a songwriting credit.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_03: But they don't have to.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_03: Because you were hired to do a job, you came up with uh a piece of the song, it just happens to be a piece of the song that is one of the most memorable.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_11: Think about the but I honestly don't think that is as memorable as other pieces.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_11: You know what I'm saying?
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_11: It's memorable, but it's not it's not the crux of the song.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_03: No, but it is recognizable.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, it is, but I don't think it's a million pounds worth.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um whatever that is.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_03: Think of the funk brothers.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: We were talking about the funk brothers.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um how the the thing on My Girl from the Temptations done but the guitar player came up with that.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_11: Um, and he died you know, not being recognized for coming up with that riff.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um and like uh the Beach Boys did that a lot.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um not the Beach Boys, but the the band with the Wrecking Crew.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_03: Wrecking Crew.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um Carol Kay, the bass player.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_03: She would come up with s uh signature bass lines, you know, for for a lot of the stuff not.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_11: Well that uh that uh what's that song uh the association does?
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_11: Um uh Age of Aquarius.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_11: Is that the song I'm thinking of?
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_11: Aquarius?
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_11: And the moon is in the seventh.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_11: Didn't she come up with a really cool bass line for that?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: Uh no, I think you're thinking.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, that's somebody else.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_11: He was in the record group, but it wasn't Carol Kennedy.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was uh Bill something.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_11: Uh Bill bass player.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like uh um do do do do.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was Carol King.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: Wendy.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: Wendy the association Wendy.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean they came up with that.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_03: I think because they have what they did is they'd go in the studio and they'd have the basis of the song.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: They'd have the song all written.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um and they would come up with things to embellish and and and add to the song and and make it you know, a recording.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_03: And they were they were tasked with coming up with, you know, these things.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_03: Now, is it right?
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_03: Should they get some sort of credit as a writer?
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_11: That's all uh depending on the artist.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_11: To be honest with you.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_11: I mean, if you sign up as a session player, you're not technically the songwriter.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_11: You're part of this big conglomeration that's coming up with a song.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_11: So it's you know, you're part of the group that came up with the song.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 30:13
  unknown: Yeah.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_11: Is it right?
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_11: Probably not, but it's the nature of the beast.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_11: I mean, if if you as the session player come, you know, I'm I'm gonna do my own thing and you come up with a riff, yeah, then you get the credit because you you're you're doing it under your own Right.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_11: You know, for your own, you know, personal whatever, but if you're playing for an artist and you come up with an amazing riff, you're probably never gonna get credit for it.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_03: This I just have this in the back of my head, so I wanna I wanna try and um bring this up.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we're talking about songwriting credit and and the like.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um this song from The Rolling Stones.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um what they did was kind of cool for this.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and I'll tell you about it here in a second.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_03: So do you remember this song?
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um It was from the late 90s, I think.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_03: From uh The Rolling Stones.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_03: They had they had written it, they had put it out.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, I think they they may have put the album out, and then someone kind of called them out uh and said, Hey, this sounds like this other song.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_03: And they said, Really?
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think so?
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: And of course I'm making this conversation up, but Noah, do you think so?
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm I'm gonna play the song here in a second.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_03: This is the video.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um But they heard that this song sounded like another song, and they listened to the other song, and they're like, you know what?
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_03: Does anybody see my baby?
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_03: You're kinda right, it kind of does.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, okay.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_11: Does anybody see my baby?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_03: So that bass line.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's the chorus, really, that sounds like the other song.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_03: That's a relative hit for them.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I like the song.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, me too.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_03: Did you ever hear that this was uh kind of another song?
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_03: No, I don't think so.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's it's it's reaching.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh really.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_03: But what they did was cool.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_03: Here's the chorus.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, so I'm gonna get I'm gonna cue up the other song here because I hear it.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's in the melody of the chorus.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'll play a little bit of um because I'm not gonna forward through the song because I can't really do that, but um let's see if I can.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_03: What is this song?
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_03: This is the song that they ripped off.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_11: I'm sorry, I didn't hear any accordion in the other one.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_11: I know that voice.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_11: Yes, you do.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: A delay.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_03: Ah, yes.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_03: Take it a chord to the stuff.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's coming up.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it's pretty close.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: Not now.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_03: It's not.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_03: I mean it's it's a little bit.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that that's it.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just that.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_03: But that's so somebody pointed that out to the Rolling Stones and they put her name on their song.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, well that's that's pretty cool.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_03: They gave her songwriting credit.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_11: So I thought that was of course at this point in their career they Of course, yeah, that's true.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_11: But are they you know w how much money are they gonna lose?
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_11: Exactly.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_11: You know.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they really don't have anything to lose.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um even back then, man.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_03: So um, and I did want to point out um one of my favorite all-time classic rock songs.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um let's see if I can get to this.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_03: Nope.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I have to get through it and you'll recognize this.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_03: The guy singing this song, the founder of the band, Procle Harum, Gary Brooker, passed away at the age of 76 a couple days ago.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_03: I guess it was at the end of last week.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_11: Uh yeah, something like that.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_03: Just I just love this song.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_03: Play a little bit of it.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: I was feeling kinda says.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_03: That organ part is just so it's really nice.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_11: It really fits no, but I mean it really fits the song.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_03: So a whiter shade of pale.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_03: That's Pro Kle Haran from 1967.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: So rest in peace, Gary Brooker.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of tributes going out uh late last week for uh Gary Brooker.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um let's see, this week in music news, uh Sammy Hagar uh said that because I remember when when Eddie Van Halen died, um there were they were asking uh Wolf whether there was a lot of unreleased Van Halen music and can we expect that in the future?
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: And Wolf said yeah.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_03: I mean probably not anytime soon.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um but there's a lot to go through and of course he recorded everything.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_03: But he recorded them on cassettes, yeah.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, that the tape stretches and stuff, so I mean that's hopefully they can salvage it.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_03: But um Sammy Hagar doesn't want them to.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but it's really not up to Sammy Hagar.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's not, unless it has his voice on it, right?
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_11: Well that then and that, but uh if it's not his stuff, then it's not his stuff.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um because he said that Ed was always messing around, always recording.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_03: Anything that they when they were putting putting together an album, if it wasn't good enough for the album, they left it off the album.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_03: And so there's a reason that stuff hasn't been released.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: So can you see his point?
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_11: Oh yeah, I can see the point, but again, not opposite anyway.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_03: True.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_03: So Yeah.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I think he's talking about the the music that he that he did with the really I I don't think at this point it's any concern of his.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_11: Alright.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_11: No, I don't know.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_11: I'm I'm gonna be honest with you, man.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_11: I mean, whatever Eddie did, if Wolf wants to put it out, then Wolf's gonna put it out.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_11: If he doesn't want it, he won't.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_11: It's really not up to say, you know.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_11: Same's not the boss of Eddie.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: So god damn it.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Journey's on tour with Toto.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_03: I know Neil Sean just turned 68.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_03: That's why I was thinking of that.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_03: But Journey and Toto, man.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_03: That would be a show to see.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_11: That would be a great show.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um Nancy Wilson of Heart is planning on going out on the road with Heart without Ann Wilson.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_03: That's a little weird.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_03: It is a little weird.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_03: She's gonna sing some.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_03: Of course, she sings a few of the songs, a few of the big songs, but uh she's got uh someone from um one of the one of the talent shows, The Voice or something.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that'll be good.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_03: That that is is gonna I'll give more credence.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_03: And she said that she doesn't sound like Ann Wilson.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna do the they're gonna do these songs like in in a different way.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_11: So Heart is gonna become a tribute band of heart.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_11: Is that basically what she said?
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_03: And it's not even it's not even it's it's it's band members.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna be our own tribute band that they put together.
• 39:13
  unknown: Yeah.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's not the original heart.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: It's not the the heart from the 70s and it's not the heart from the 80s.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_03: Those are all all those guys are gone.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_03: Well, doesn't matter.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_03: So because heart really was It's really Ann and Nancy.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so but still I guess they can do whatever.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I wanted to preview now that I just now that I just unplugged this.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_03: That was good thinking.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um did you know the Scorpions retired?
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_03: I thought they had.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_03: No, because that's a joke they didn't.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_11: Um they kind of retire like the Rolling Stones have retired.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_03: But have the Rolling Stones ever said they were going to retire?
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_11: I don't know.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_11: It's hard to it's hard to understand what they say anyway.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um well the the stone the uh Scorpions just put out uh a new album, and I wanted to preview the first track from the album.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_03: And it's actually the title cut just to see what the scorpions are sounding like these days.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_03: Sound like feedback.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_03: This is Rock Believer.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_04: It's like the same formula as it's that scorpion's on every day from the first day you were born, you walked the line of your own And if you always keep the fame No drink for one I don't know, I mean it's it's scorpions.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_11: It's a scorpions, I mean it's it's just you know It's like when you get a big Mac, you get a big Mac.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_03: Let's do what let's see what the chorus sounds like.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_03: This is called Rock Believer, by the way.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_03: I don't dislike it.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_11: I mean it's no no, it's not it's not you know, it's it's the scorpions.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_11: Yep.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_11: You're getting exactly what you if you want a scorpion album, this is exactly what you're gonna get.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I guess it's good to have that music still around.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_03: Sure, you know, yeah.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um so there's that.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_03: And then this this kind of um uh this week in in Rock News, Phil Collin, the guitar player from Def Leopard, I read an article on ultimate classicrock.com where he um talks about the song on hysteria, which is you know arguably no, it's not arguably, it's their biggest, it's their biggest album.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um The song on hysteria that makes him cringe.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_03: And I'll tell you why.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_03: Let me let me let's see They didn't get they didn't get enough time to work on it.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like chorus-wise, he said.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_03: The verses are great, but they get to the chorus and it's too, I don't know.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um it went a bit too poppy, a bit too happy.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_03: The vocal vocal melody was a little too major scale.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_03: It should have stayed more rock and roll, especially because of the title.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_03: What song do you think it is?
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_03: Armageddon.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh incorrect.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_11: Okay.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_11: I was just guessing, I don't know.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_03: I think you're gonna be surprised um when I when I when I play the song that makes him cringe from the album Hysteria.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_03: Are you ready?
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_11: Run right.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_11: I can do that.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_03: He wasn't happy with his solo.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_03: He fumbled the solo, he says, probably.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_11: What uh was the rest of the in comparison to the rest of the album?
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_11: It's probably one of the le my least favorite.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_11: Is it really?
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_03: See, no, I love it.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_03: This one that's one of my favorite ones of the album is now one of my least favorite.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's really rock.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_03: I mean he's screaming.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_03: And so Phil Collins argument or whatever is when they go to the chorus.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: It's too happy.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_03: Too poppy.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_03: And I can see that there is a difference between this part of the song and the chorus.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_03: I wanted to listen to the guitar solo too because it says it says he uh fumbled it and made some mistakes.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_03: He used to really cringe when he heard it, but now it's been 35 years and kind of likes it now.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, there's the mistake right there.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_03: You're just making that up.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't think there was anything wrong with that guitar solo.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_11: No, there's but I mean, you know, you re you know, it's a Mutt Lang recording, so you know he he did it 70,000 times.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_11: Right, yeah, of course.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, of course.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm trying to think if there was any more uh rock news that we're missing.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_03: Of course, there's a lot of rock news, but uh Tears for Fears came out with a new album.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um I saw them perform um on it was I don't know if it was the Today Show or something, but they did one of their classic songs.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um Everybody Wants to Rule the World.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_03: And it was the two the two uh front guys, Kurt uh Smith and Roland, I can't remember his Orzbal.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_03: Orzibel, the two guys.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and then there was a a drummer, a keyboard player, a bass player, and a guitar player.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_03: So it was it was six guys.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_11: That took you way too long to count.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_11: And you were actually looking at your fingers.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_11: You were like flux, they were like Well, I work with third and fourth graders all day.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, let's start from nine and count up.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_03: One, two, three, two.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_11: Wait a minute.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_11: Let's let's look at this again.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_11: It's the second hand that's drawing me.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um but anyway, it sounded amazing.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it sounded like the record.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_03: Oh right.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_03: It was unbelievable.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um35th anniversary of Dream Warriors from Dawkins.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_03: From Nightmare and Elm Street.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um Dream No.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think that was that was all I wanted to talk about.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_03: Was that was that stuff there?
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_03: Jonathan Cain says the new Journey album, they step out a little bit.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, they say whatever they're gonna say so they can sell the record to it.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_11: Oh yeah, that's just that's just for you know people to go, oh I gotta get it now.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna get it because I love Journey, but Journey I bet Journey did a reggae song and they called it Jamaica!
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_11: I'm still bad at that.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_03: I can tell.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_03: Uh alright, so let's do um let's do we don't have a Comic Crossing song of the week just because we're running out.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't have one queued up.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 47:47
  unknown: Yeah.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_11: So we're not sure everybody's like, thank God.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_03: You have to listen to these.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_03: The crap that they play in the middle of their podcast is just socks.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_12: It's like a crap sandwich.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_12: Um the two pieces of bread are good, but the crap in the middle.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_12: That's what gets us.
• 48:02
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• 48:05
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• 48:06
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• 48:07
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• 49:28
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• 49:29
  SPEAKER_03: It's time to climb the wall of two.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, so uh do you have anything you can c uh cover your eyes with?
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_03: You have your coat.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_11: I have my joke.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_11: It's my Jamaican Jamaica jacket.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_12: I'm really mad at Robert Plant.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_12: You suck.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_11: Alright.
• 49:49
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• 49:52
  unknown: Okay.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_12: Alright.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_12: Alright, I'm gonna.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna take my headphones off.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna stand up.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_12: Oh.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_11: I'm playing a little jacket music.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure if we I know we haven't.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think we've done this album.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_11: Are you are you done?
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm done.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_03: Let me.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_03: This is a family show.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_11: That's from Wayne's World.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, it's a family show.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I do.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um so yeah, I'm not sure we I don't I know we haven't done this album, but I'm not sure if we've done this artist or something.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_03: So let the guessing begin.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_11: Is it a solo or is it a band?
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_11: It is a band.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_11: Is it a rock band?
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_03: It is a pop rock band.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_11: It's a pop rock band.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_11: Height of popularity.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_03: Gee, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say the 70s.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_11: Okay.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, 70s.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_03: That was their height of popularity, yes.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_11: A male lead singer or a female lead singer?
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_11: Both.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_11: Really?
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_11: Starship.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_03: Good guess.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_11: But wrong.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_11: But wrong.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_11: Jefferson Starship?
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_03: Wrong.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_03: And if you guessed Jefferson airplane after this, I Dang it, you took my guess, man.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_11: That was gonna be my third one.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_11: Jefferson Airplane?
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, okay, so they now did they have a lead singer, male and female lead singer at the same time?
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_11: Really?
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, I don't know if I if I say this, it's I'm gonna give it away.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_03: They had two female lead singers and a male lead singer.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_11: Is it the B-52s?
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_11: Nope.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_11: Oh wait, is it uh uh uh ABBA?
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_11: Nope.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_11: Two female lead singers.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_03: Nope.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_03: Probably one of the most one of the one of the best selling albums from the 70s.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_03: And not made by Led Zeppelin.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_03: Not made by Led Zeppelin.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um easily their best selling album.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_03: Not the one I'm saying.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_11: It was Fleetwood Mac.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_03: It was Fleetwood Mac.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah This is this is this one is from the 80s.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um this is Tango in the Night.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, okay.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_11: This is from I I think I remember this album.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_11: It's like 85 or something like that.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_11: I'm trying to look.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_03: It's a this is a reissue, so it says 2017, but that's not right.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um it doesn't tell me the original date.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_03: It just tells me the ri the reissue date.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I think it was from like 85.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, so I remember this song.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and they actually had they actually had uh quite a few.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_03: I think you'd be surprised at how many songs you'll recognize from this album.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_03: Because I forgot how popular they were in the 80s.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_03: Because I would say, would you say, would you agree that the 70s oh the 70s were definitely uh their decade?
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but but I think they got lost in the uh mix of the 80s.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_11: Right can't think of the name of it, but I remember this song.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_03: Seven wonders.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_11: Thank you.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_03: This is a great song.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_11: I mean, that's Stevie Nick's.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_11: I mean, yeah, yeah.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_05: You touch my hand on the way, on the way.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_03: I almost want to just go to the chorus because I love the chorus of this song.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_03: Because it's my podcast, so our podcast, so I can do that, right?
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, cool.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_03: So there's that.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_03: So then we have uh honestly, I think you're gonna be surprised at how many hit songs they had on this album, Tango in the night.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_03: I should say how many songs you'll recognize.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_11: Yep.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_11: Already recognized this one.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_11: Seems like I just heard this somewhere too.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_11: Watching something or listening to something.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_11: Oh yeah, I heard it on Red Yacht Rock.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_11: Did you?
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_11: Over the weekend, yeah.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_11: It's called Everywhere.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_11: Yep.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_02: I want to be with you everywhere.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, exactly.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_03: And this is Christy McVee, the other kidney.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_11: She had a nice choice.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_11: I don't think she got the credit.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_11: She's gonna be.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_11: I don't think she deserved.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_08: Um yeah.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_11: That horrible that horrible, horrible eighties drum sound.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_11: You know.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_12: And then there's Oh yeah, yeah.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_03: This is little lies.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_02: Tell me lies.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, tell me, sweet little lies.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_03: Another Christy McVee.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_08: The time for the page.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, now this one I'm guessing on.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if this was a gonna find a way.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if this was a hit song or not, but I Yeah.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I remember this song.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_03: Probably not as big a hit, but it was a hit.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_11: I don't recognize this one.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_11: Is that Lindsay Buckingham?
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it doesn't even sound like it.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_04: Uh uh.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_03: See if you recognize the chorus.
• 57:16
  unknown: I don't care!
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_03: Nope.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_03: Family Man.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_03: Family Man.
• 57:24
  unknown: I don't care.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I remember this.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_11: Because I I was in radio.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_11: The only Family Man song I remember is Hall on Oats.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_03: Nope.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_03: Nope.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_03: I have no recollection of this song.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't think if I'm looking at the other songs on here, I don't recognize any of the titles.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe Caroline?
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think Caroline was a hit.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just gonna see if it's maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see if no, I don't recognize it.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_11: Well that's that's a Mick Fleetwood fail though.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_11: You could tell that.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_03: And that's I don't recognize it's that's so 80s.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, it's so 80s, man.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_11: It's so 80s, it should be neon.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_03: Nope.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_03: I think I've obviously I've heard the song before because it's I have the album, but yeah.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think I don't think it was a hit song.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_11: I don't think so either.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_11: I don't remember your prejudice.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, uh a great album.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um if you like that, uh if you like Fleawood Mac, um Tango in the Night.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_03: Tango in the Night.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_03: It's no rumors, but it's uh it's definitely for the 80s, it was pretty darn good.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_11: I think so.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, there's a lot there is a lot of good stuff on there.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_11: Even the songs that I'd never heard before.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_11: They're not Yeah.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_11: They don't they don't suck.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_11: So I mean that's that that says a lot.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_03: And so let's see where they stand today.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the Stevie Nicks kicked Lindsey Buckingham out of the band.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_03: And they got Mike Campbell from Tom Petty's band, and Neil Finn from uh Crowded House.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_03: Right and they went out on tour this was what, three, four years ago.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um and Lindsay Buckingham says that Stevie Nicks is the reason that he can't come back into the into the band.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_03: So there's just there's always been some drama with that band.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah, definitely.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_11: But uh I think at one point they were all doing each other at some point.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_11: In that in in in some time in that history.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_11: They were all rumors around the people that they weren't supposed to be doing.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_03: It was it was around rumors.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_03: Probably, yeah.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_03: So so uh not just uh you know go your own way.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_11: Didn't Lindsay wrote that about Stevie and made Stevie sing it.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_11: Right.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_11: That's a that's a dick move.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it is.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_11: It really is, man.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_11: I'm sorry, but it really is.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I love that song, but that's a dick move.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, if you don't know the history, I'm not gonna get into the weeds with it, but Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nicks came into Fleetwood Mac as a couple.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_03: John McVee and Christy.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_11: Well, they did that album uh Buckingham.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_03: Buckingham Knicks, yep.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh John McVee and Christy McVee came into Fleetwood Mac.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_03: Well, well, actually, John McVee was in Fleetwood Mac, but uh Christy McVee came in as his wife.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_03: They were married.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_11: Uh and then Fleetwood and Wait, didn't they have a bass player before John McVeigh?
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_03: No, I don't think so.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_11: Okay.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_03: No, because they were a blues band before Yeah.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_11: But wasn't there a uh there I thought there was a bass player before John McVeigh.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think so.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_03: I almost think there was McFleetwood and John McVee started it together.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe, yeah, okay.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, um and then so I don't know that anything happened with John and Christy McVee.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh like like like they cheated on each other or s with other members of the band.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't know whether but I know that Stevie went with McFleetwood there for a while.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and then and then there was just it was always drama.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_03: And so that's why I think that's why they named the album Rumors.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, it had to be.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_11: I mean just it was just it was just crazy.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_11: It was like a soap opera for a while, you know.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_03: But they great make great music, man.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_11: I I I think out of that conflict comes, you know, just genius.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_11: You know what I mean?
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_11: Yep.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_11: It's like a you know, Albert Einstein.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_11: If Albert Einstein was a horn dog, you know.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_11: I never thought he he probably would have come up with a unified field theory, you know, and solved it.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_11: I'm getting some.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, did you hear that latest O'Brien and Doug podcast?
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_03: They pontificated on whether Albert Einstein was a horn dog.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_03: I think he was, actually.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_11: To be honest with you, I think he was.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_11: Didn't he marry his cousin or something like that?
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_11: I don't know.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh anyway, that is the album of the week from The Wall of Tunes, and that is Tango in the Night, Fleetwood Mac.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_11: You never know what you're gonna hear in this podcast.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_11: Exactly.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_11: That's what keeps it interesting.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_11: That's what keeps all six people coming back.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_11: 25.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_11: We had 25.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, we had 25.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_11: Good for us.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_12: Yep.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_12: Good for us.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_12: Um Thank you, everybody.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_12: That's uh that's good.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_12: You're gonna love this one then.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_12: Season five.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_12: Episode 16.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_12: That Doug is so weird.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's in the books.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_03: So until next week.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_03: I see nothing standing in our way to record another podcast.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_04: I just I don't know.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_11: Sometimes I just go off the rails of my head, and this is just a trade wreck.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_11: I'm O'Brien!
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