Latest / DISGRACELAND / Marvin Gaye: Father, Father There’s Far Too Many of Us Dying
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Disgraceland as a production of Double Elvis.
- 0:14Speaker 2: The stories about soul singer Marvin Gay aren s. He
- 0:18Speaker 2: slept with more women than Chamberlain. He did more cocaine
- 0:22Speaker 2: than John Belushi and Richard Pryor combined. He ate acid
- 0:26Speaker 2: with Bootsy Collins and George Clinton. He could dunk on
- 0:30Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson. And he was born into a god fearing
- 0:33Speaker 2: home to his sweet, wholesome mother and cross dressing, philandering
- 0:37Speaker 2: Pentecostal preacher who ruled his children with an iron fist.
- 0:42Speaker 2: But despite his strict upbringing, Marvin Gay was able to
- 0:46Speaker 2: find his calling music and use it as a ticket
- 0:50Speaker 2: out of the repressive inner city blues he was raised in.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Marvin Gay was immensely talented. He was also paranoid, dangerous,
- 0:59Speaker 2: and borderline suicidal. He barricaded himself in his Hollywood Hills
- 1:04Speaker 2: home behind his Ak forty sevens and his attack dogs.
- 1:07Speaker 2: He took a knife to his wife's throat. He did
- 1:10Speaker 2: enough drugs to put a thoroughbread in the ground. But
- 1:13Speaker 2: through it all he made great music. That music I
- 1:16Speaker 2: played you at the top of the show, and that
- 1:18Speaker 2: wasn't great music. That was a preset loop from my
- 1:21Speaker 2: mellotron called Fox Trot Moving Piano low MK one. I
- 1:28Speaker 2: played you that loop because I can't afford the license
- 1:31Speaker 2: for Footloose by Kenny Loggins. And why would I play
- 1:34Speaker 2: you that specific slice of bacon esque sounds Messina cheese?
- 1:38Speaker 2: Could I afford it? Because that was the number one
- 1:41Speaker 2: song in America on April first, nineteen eighty four, And
- 1:45Speaker 2: that was the day that Marvin Gay rose his hand
- 1:48Speaker 2: to his father and consequently brought about his own demise.
- 1:52Speaker 2: On this episode, Fox Trot Moving Pianos, bacon Esque cheese,
- 1:57Speaker 2: cross dressing dads, shame and trail, and Marvin Gay, I'm
- 2:02Speaker 2: Jake Brennan and miss his disgraceland. The sound of his
- 2:30Speaker 2: feet in women's pumps putting pressure on the old wooden
- 2:34Speaker 2: stairs pumped out the sound of shame the trail. How
- 2:38Speaker 2: could his old man do this? His father? For God's sake.
- 2:42Speaker 2: The rest of the family stood by, pretending not to
- 2:45Speaker 2: be bothered by the sight of their patriarch descending from
- 2:48Speaker 2: his second floor bedroom in their home in Washington, DC's
- 2:51Speaker 2: Simple City neighborhood. But how could they not there he
- 2:55Speaker 2: was the man of the house, Marvin Gay, wearing a
- 2:59Speaker 2: poke dress, fake pearls around his neck, the aforementioned pumps
- 3:04Speaker 2: in a crooked wig from Crowns that he had no
- 3:06Speaker 2: doubt picked up from one of the church ladies he'd
- 3:08Speaker 2: preached to on Sundays. Young Marvin couldn't stand it, but
- 3:13Speaker 2: there was nothing he could do about it. His father
- 3:16Speaker 2: was going to do whatever the hell he wanted to do,
- 3:18Speaker 2: and if that meant wearing ladies clothes at the breakfast
- 3:21Speaker 2: table on a Saturday morning or retreating behind his bedroom
- 3:24Speaker 2: door with fat bottomed women from church while his wife,
- 3:28Speaker 2: Marvin's mother busied herself with making their home downstairs, and
- 3:32Speaker 2: so be it. There was nothing anyone could do about it.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Marvin Gay Senior was going to do whatever the hell
- 3:39Speaker 2: Marvin Gay Senior wanted to do, because Poka Dot dress
- 3:42Speaker 2: or no Poka dot dress, he was still the man
- 3:45Speaker 2: of the house. But it was bad, real bad, bad enough.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Marvin's last name was Gay. But now with the rumors
- 3:53Speaker 2: spreading around the neighborhood that his preacher dad was some
- 3:56Speaker 2: sort of homosexual cross dressing freak, Marvin could barely show
- 4:01Speaker 2: his face out of the house without some neighborhood kids
- 4:04Speaker 2: starting something. So for young Marvin Gay. This meant one
- 4:07Speaker 2: fistfight after another, but Marvin could hold his own, and
- 4:11Speaker 2: in some way this helped. It made him feel like
- 4:13Speaker 2: he was proving something to himself, to his father, that he,
- 4:17Speaker 2: while even just a boy at the time, wasn't betraying
- 4:20Speaker 2: his manhood like he believed his father was betrayal. It
- 4:25Speaker 2: was a constant, unspoken theme in the Gay household, and
- 4:28Speaker 2: their father, a one time Pentecostal preacher, preached strict adherence
- 4:33Speaker 2: to the Lord's Way, and any deviation from that heavenly
- 4:36Speaker 2: path was seen as a betrayal. It met with strict,
- 4:40Speaker 2: oftentimes violent discipline. But somehow, in nineteen fifties America, to
- 4:45Speaker 2: Marvin's dad, dressing in women's clothing was not a deviation
- 4:49Speaker 2: from the heavenly path progressive nah, more likely extreme hypocrisy.
- 4:56Speaker 2: And like I said, Marvin Gay Senior did whatever the
- 4:58Speaker 2: hell he wanted to do. He was the powerful male
- 5:01Speaker 2: head of a family who ruled his household with violence, fear,
- 5:04Speaker 2: and intimidation. His family was petrified of him and thus
- 5:09Speaker 2: powerless to do or say anything about his behavior, however,
- 5:13Speaker 2: hypocritical and embarrassing. Now, ain't that peculiar, but the contradictions
- 5:18Speaker 2: didn't stop there. Despite his own sins, Father as he
- 5:22Speaker 2: was called, tried his best to discipline out any secular
- 5:25Speaker 2: and therefore sinful interest from his kids. Going to the
- 5:28Speaker 2: movies on a Saturday to see Disney's Lady in the
- 5:31Speaker 2: Tramp a betrayal of God, reading Charlotte's Web a betrayal
- 5:35Speaker 2: of God, and singing in a street corner dowop band
- 5:38Speaker 2: as young Marvin was at the time, definitely a betrayal
- 5:42Speaker 2: of God. But Marvin loved music and he was good
- 5:46Speaker 2: at it. He knew it. If hearing his voice bounce
- 5:49Speaker 2: off the walls of the church on Sundays didn't prove it,
- 5:51Speaker 2: then the looks he was starting to get from young
- 5:54Speaker 2: and old women alike sealed it. Gay my ass. He
- 5:58Speaker 2: thought women loved him. How could he be gay, he wondered,
- 6:02Speaker 2: And that shit wasn't hereditary? Was it? Besides? Was his
- 6:05Speaker 2: dad even gay? Despite the women's clothes and his marriage
- 6:08Speaker 2: to Marvin's mom, he was openly sleeping with other women,
- 6:14Speaker 2: so young Marvin Gay. To clear up any confusion, added
- 6:17Speaker 2: an e to the end of his name, just like
- 6:19Speaker 2: Sam Cook before him, and followed his golden voice from
- 6:22Speaker 2: the Street Corner serenades of Washington, d C. The Hitsville, USA,
- 6:26Speaker 2: and the hit factory known as Motown Records. Motown was
- 6:49Speaker 2: great for Marvin, and there was much to learn from
- 6:52Speaker 2: Motown's rich stable of musical talent, The Miracles, Martha and
- 6:56Speaker 2: the Vandellas and the Temptations. Plus Barry Gordy, Motown's founder
- 7:01Speaker 2: and leader, was a genius, modeling his studio and record
- 7:04Speaker 2: label after the neighboring General Motors Auto factory in Detroit. Gordy,
- 7:09Speaker 2: through Motown, pumped out hit hit after hit with his
- 7:13Speaker 2: assembly line approach to record making. House songwriters like the
- 7:17Speaker 2: Holland Doser Holland Team composed the lyrics, the melodies and
- 7:20Speaker 2: the music, and house studio musicians the Funk Brothers laid
- 7:24Speaker 2: down the tracks and contracted stars like The Supremes and
- 7:27Speaker 2: the Four Tops came in and sang the vocal. Finally,
- 7:31Speaker 2: genius producers like Norman Whitfield and the five Tool player
- 7:35Speaker 2: Smokey Robinson saw the track through to completion, mixing it
- 7:38Speaker 2: and readying it for the pressing plant, airwaves, the record stores,
- 7:42Speaker 2: and ultimately the record shells of young Americans, both black
- 7:45Speaker 2: and white everywhere Motown in the early nineteen sixties was
- 7:51Speaker 2: the place for black musicians. Motown's success at the time
- 7:55Speaker 2: was unrivaled, and its unofficial title of Hitsville, USA was
- 7:59Speaker 2: no stretch. Marvin Gay couldn't have found himself in a
- 8:02Speaker 2: better place. He broke in as a studio musician, but
- 8:06Speaker 2: quickly made his vocal talents known and cracked the charts
- 8:09Speaker 2: with the hit single Stubborn Kind of Fellow in nineteen
- 8:12Speaker 2: sixty two. He followed it up with subsequent hits Hitchhike,
- 8:16Speaker 2: Pride and Joy, Can I Get a Witness? And more,
- 8:18Speaker 2: and in no time established himself as one of Motown's
- 8:21Speaker 2: biggest stars. June twenty first, nineteen sixty three, Chattanooga, Tennessee's
- 8:28Speaker 2: Memorial Auditorium, the Motown label's Motortown Review was in town
- 8:33Speaker 2: to put on a show The Temptations, Little Stevie Wonder,
- 8:36Speaker 2: Mary Wells, Martha Reeves and the Vandellas, and at the
- 8:39Speaker 2: top of the bill Marvin Gay. It was showtime, but
- 8:43Speaker 2: the headliner was nowhere to be found. Martha Reeves knew
- 8:47Speaker 2: what was up. Marvin's stage fright had probably gotten the
- 8:50Speaker 2: better of him again. She scurried about the backstage looking
- 8:54Speaker 2: for Marvin, and found him huddled in a corner near
- 8:56Speaker 2: the exit, almost with one foot out of the door. Literally,
- 9:00Speaker 2: he was shaking, hunched over, smoking a cigarette, sweating on
- 9:04Speaker 2: the verge of a panic attack. He couldn't do it again.
- 9:07Speaker 2: He told her he couldn't go on stage. The band
- 9:10Speaker 2: wasn't ready. Of course they are, Marvin, they always are.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Martha told him he wasn't ready. You're a star, Marvin,
- 9:17Speaker 2: you were born ready, baby, Martha reassured him. The crowd
- 9:22Speaker 2: wasn't right. There was going to be empty seats. Marvin.
- 9:25Speaker 2: It's a packed house, just like it is every night,
- 9:28Speaker 2: and everyone in there is dying to see you perform.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Marvin thought to himself that all these things may have
- 9:34Speaker 2: been true, but regardless whether the band was in tip
- 9:37Speaker 2: top shape, whether the house was packed, and whether or
- 9:40Speaker 2: not the crowd was dying to see him, none of
- 9:42Speaker 2: that will keep the rumors for being whispered, the rumors
- 9:47Speaker 2: that Marvin gay was well gay. Marvin couldn't stand them.
- 9:52Speaker 2: It was just like the old neighborhood, except it wasn't
- 9:55Speaker 2: his dad's cross dressing that was stoking the rumor mill
- 9:57Speaker 2: about his sexuality. It was Marvel fan's on stage vibe.
- 10:02Speaker 2: He was a star and a sex symbol, sure, but
- 10:04Speaker 2: he wasn't necessarily manly, not exactly the pro football Jim
- 10:09Speaker 2: Brown's stud type. He had soft eyes, he was sensitive,
- 10:13Speaker 2: a touch effeminine, and to those who doubted his masculinity,
- 10:17Speaker 2: Marvin's last name kind of said at all with or
- 10:19Speaker 2: without the E. And of course there was the way
- 10:22Speaker 2: he danced on stage at the Motortown Review. It was
- 10:26Speaker 2: queer peculiar, to say the least. To think that there
- 10:30Speaker 2: was a time when Marvin Gay, the smoothest operator of
- 10:33Speaker 2: them all, couldn't dance is almost unthinkable, but it's true.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Go back in YouTube some of the early sixties footage
- 10:40Speaker 2: and you'll find a man trying to do the hitchhike
- 10:43Speaker 2: but instead doing the Elaine benis no joke. But all
- 10:48Speaker 2: of that aside, there was what was inside Marvin. Was
- 10:51Speaker 2: he gay? He didn't know for sure. No, of course
- 10:55Speaker 2: he wasn't. He was one of the biggest sex symbols
- 10:58Speaker 2: in the land. On tour, they practically had to beat
- 11:02Speaker 2: the women off of him with a stick. Plus, being
- 11:05Speaker 2: gay just wasn't allowed. His dad would never have accepted it,
- 11:09Speaker 2: and not to mention the closed mind in machismo culture.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Back at Hitsville in America in the early nineteen sixties.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Never he thought his dad betrayed his own manhood by
- 11:19Speaker 2: cross dressing. Marvin never would. He was a man's man.
- 11:24Speaker 2: So Marvin did what he thought he was supposed to do.
- 11:27Speaker 2: He jumped up on stage and played the part. And
- 11:30Speaker 2: when the show was over, he jumped into the beds
- 11:32Speaker 2: of beautiful women everywhere and played the part there too.
- 11:37Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this word word word.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Marvin leaned back in his chair and took a hit
- 11:47Speaker 2: off the joint and then turned to his friend Smokey Robinson. Smoke,
- 11:53Speaker 2: I'm going to do it, Marvin, you crazy man. No,
- 11:58Speaker 2: for real, I'm going to do it. Fuck Berry Gordy.
- 12:02Speaker 2: I don't need Motown. I don't even need music, Marvin.
- 12:06Speaker 2: You can't play football. You'll get killed out there. Besides,
- 12:10Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions don't need no stoned soul singer playing
- 12:13Speaker 2: wide out. You watch Smoke, I'm gonna do it. Since
- 12:20Speaker 2: the days of the Motortown Review, Marvin Gay had done
- 12:23Speaker 2: almost as much for motown as motown had done for
- 12:26Speaker 2: Marvin Gay. His single I Heard It Through the Grapevine
- 12:30Speaker 2: was a smash hit number one on the charts, the
- 12:34Speaker 2: R and B charts, and the pop charts. The album
- 12:37Speaker 2: he'd fought tooth and nailed to make, What's Going On,
- 12:40Speaker 2: an album he had complete creative control over, a protest album,
- 12:44Speaker 2: was a massive smash commercially and critically. Think about that
- 12:49Speaker 2: for a minute. You're Marvin Gay. You're a part of one,
- 12:53Speaker 2: if not the most successful hit making machines of all time,
- 12:56Speaker 2: motown records, with a tried and true, can't beat recipe
- 13:01Speaker 2: for success. And you decide you want to do it differently.
- 13:06Speaker 2: You decide you don't want to work with house songwriters,
- 13:09Speaker 2: you want to write the songs yourself. And you decide
- 13:12Speaker 2: you don't want to be limited to house musicians. You
- 13:14Speaker 2: want to use whatever musicians you want to use, and
- 13:17Speaker 2: you want to produce the record yourself. And oh yeah,
- 13:21Speaker 2: fuck that bubblegum baby love shit, it's the same old song. No,
- 13:25Speaker 2: you're gonna make an album of protest songs, and you do,
- 13:30Speaker 2: and you nail it. What's Going On was a massive
- 13:33Speaker 2: success by any creative or financial measure. But if the
- 13:37Speaker 2: true measure of being an artist is taking risks to
- 13:40Speaker 2: express yourself, to give voice to others through what you create.
- 13:44Speaker 2: The Marvin Gaye was the early seventies pop music what
- 13:48Speaker 2: Pablo Picasso was the twentieth century visual art. And still
- 13:52Speaker 2: Barry Gordy wasn't going to give Marvin what he wanted,
- 13:55Speaker 2: a new contract in his own recording studio to continue
- 13:59Speaker 2: making records. It's his way, so fuck it. Marvin would
- 14:04Speaker 2: quit the business altogether. He'd go play football in the
- 14:07Speaker 2: National Football League for the Detroit Lions. A tryout was arranged,
- 14:11Speaker 2: and Marvin wasn't terrible, but the coach had mercy and
- 14:14Speaker 2: did Marvin a favor by not inviting him to camp.
- 14:17Speaker 2: The thought of Dick Budkiss and Deacon Jones teeing off
- 14:20Speaker 2: on Marvin gay was too much, so Marvin continued to
- 14:24Speaker 2: negotiate with Barry Gordy and ultimately got what he wanted.
- 14:28Speaker 2: Two years later, Marvin emerged from his new studio with
- 14:31Speaker 2: the long player Let's Get It On, And it was
- 14:34Speaker 2: a stunning creative achievement. Except the subject matter of this
- 14:39Speaker 2: album wasn't social unrest, it was sex. Marvin Gaye was
- 14:44Speaker 2: a freak, and Let's Get It On brought out something
- 14:48Speaker 2: else and him as a writer and performer, something the
- 14:50Speaker 2: world hadn't seen in him before. A sea was storming
- 14:53Speaker 2: inside of him. He'd been trying to hold back this
- 14:56Speaker 2: feeling for so long, but now it was time to
- 14:59Speaker 2: let the love come out. If Marvin couldn't improve his
- 15:02Speaker 2: manhood on the football field, then he would in America's bedroom.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Let's Get It On was unapologetically horny, sensual, and smooth.
- 15:11Speaker 2: No one was smoother than Marvin Day. He'd always been
- 15:14Speaker 2: capable of gripping listeners with the singing at once intimate, rough, vulnerable,
- 15:19Speaker 2: dirty and innocent. But when the subject matter was sex
- 15:23Speaker 2: and only sex, well, his voice was a Spanish flag trap.
- 15:28Speaker 2: An off record and out on the town. Marvin's sexual
- 15:32Speaker 2: conquests were the stuff of legend. Everyone wanted him, and
- 15:37Speaker 2: Marvin was down to freak. Despite an irrational jealous streak
- 15:41Speaker 2: that was being fueled by increasing cocaine use, Marvin encouraged
- 15:45Speaker 2: his girlfriend and later wife, Jan Hunter to have sex
- 15:48Speaker 2: with other men, and not just any other men, his
- 15:53Speaker 2: young protegee singer Rick James, and his biggest singing rival
- 15:57Speaker 2: at the time, Teddy Pendergrass. Rumor was circulating that Marvin
- 16:02Speaker 2: and Jan slept with Mick Jagger and his girlfriend Jerry
- 16:05Speaker 2: Hall after a night out at Studio fifty four, and
- 16:08Speaker 2: that he was sleeping with actress Margot Kidder as well
- 16:12Speaker 2: as with the girlfriend of Love Story actor Ryan O'Neill
- 16:15Speaker 2: while O'Neill was doing his best to creep on Marvin's wife, Jan.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Marvin didn't mind these rumors. They burnished his manly image. However,
- 16:25Speaker 2: stories about Marvin's bisexuality, sex with Richard pryor sex with
- 16:29Speaker 2: Marlon Brando would not surface until years later. After Let's
- 16:35Speaker 2: get it on. The sex, the drugs. It was all
- 16:38Speaker 2: becoming too much for Marvin. He was one of the
- 16:41Speaker 2: biggest stars in the Lamb, but despite the fact that
- 16:43Speaker 2: the entire world wanted him, Marvin Gaye retreated with his
- 16:46Speaker 2: wife into his cabin in the woods, on top of
- 16:49Speaker 2: a mountain of cocaine and under a blanket of paranoia.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Marvin put the knife down. I loved you too much, Jan, Marvin,
- 17:17Speaker 2: take the knife away from my throat. Jan. This love
- 17:22Speaker 2: is killing me. I beg you to provoke me. Provoke
- 17:25Speaker 2: me right now so I can take us both out
- 17:28Speaker 2: of our misery. Marvin Gaye was high as fuck and
- 17:33Speaker 2: drunk on paranoia, a mix of psychedelic mushrooms, pharmaceutical gray cocaine,
- 17:38Speaker 2: and the recent realization that his wife Jan had taken
- 17:41Speaker 2: him at his word that she should sleep with singer
- 17:43Speaker 2: Teddy Pendergrass, and it had driven Marvin into a violent ranch.
- 17:48Speaker 2: But before things got all Oj and Nicole, Marvin got
- 17:51Speaker 2: hip and dropped the knife. Jan split with the kids,
- 17:55Speaker 2: and Marvin eventually got himself ready for a world tour,
- 17:58Speaker 2: which was saying something thing because Marvin Gay hated touring,
- 18:03Speaker 2: he hated performing, and by the late seventies and early
- 18:07Speaker 2: eighties he'd managed to at least morph the goofy Olaye
- 18:10Speaker 2: Venice dance moves into something passing as smooth on stage.
- 18:13Speaker 2: But Marvin's stage act as of late was now bordering
- 18:17Speaker 2: on a parody of himself high to the gills on cocaine,
- 18:21Speaker 2: nightly paranoid. It was something to prove I'm not gay, Dad,
- 18:25Speaker 2: I swear Marvin the Ladies Man reduced himself to stripping
- 18:28Speaker 2: down to his underwear on stage to close out the show.
- 18:32Speaker 2: If his natural talent, even in this drugged out Hayes,
- 18:35Speaker 2: hadn't been so immense, it would have been pathetic. But
- 18:39Speaker 2: somehow the show managed to stay on the rails on stage. Anyway,
- 18:44Speaker 2: off stage, things were about as far off the fucking
- 18:47Speaker 2: rails as they could get. Marvin's drug use would have
- 18:51Speaker 2: made Keith Richards blush. His blood type was cocaine, and
- 18:55Speaker 2: his fear had him firmly in its grips. Fear of
- 18:58Speaker 2: not being able to perform, fear of his fans turning
- 19:01Speaker 2: their back on him, fear of the Lord's wrath. And
- 19:05Speaker 2: all these fears weren't unfounded. Marvin's ability to perform was
- 19:09Speaker 2: in question. His shows because of his drug use were suffering,
- 19:13Speaker 2: and not every show was a sold out smash. And
- 19:16Speaker 2: as for the Lord, well, Marvin, going as far back
- 19:19Speaker 2: to his early Motown days, had always felt pangs of guilt,
- 19:23Speaker 2: shame for going secular and eskewing the Lord's path, and
- 19:26Speaker 2: for disappointing his father, the Preacher. And of course there
- 19:30Speaker 2: was always the fear, the voice in his head, the
- 19:33Speaker 2: one that questioned his manhood, his sexuality. To allay these
- 19:37Speaker 2: fears on the road, Marvin traveled with two men to
- 19:40Speaker 2: help him through the darkness, one his coke dealer, the
- 19:43Speaker 2: other his priest. Marvin's hotel suites would have one room
- 19:48Speaker 2: adjacent for one and another adjacent for the other, and
- 19:51Speaker 2: Marvin before and after his shows would run back and
- 19:55Speaker 2: forth between each to get high and then to seek
- 19:58Speaker 2: the Lord's forgiveness. Literally caught between heaven and hell. Something
- 20:03Speaker 2: had to give. Marvin couldn't keep up with the madness.
- 20:06Speaker 2: He was capsizing. After the sexual Healing Tour ended in
- 20:11Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three, Marvin retreated to the home he bought
- 20:14Speaker 2: his parents in the West Adams District of Los Angeles.
- 20:18Speaker 2: Now living under the same roof with his domineering, judgmental dad,
- 20:22Speaker 2: Marvin was a shell of himself, reduced to being a high, insecure,
- 20:26Speaker 2: paranoid little boy and a mama's boy. At that nothing
- 20:30Speaker 2: had changed from when he was a little kid. Marvin
- 20:33Speaker 2: still sought solace from his father's verbal abuse in his
- 20:36Speaker 2: mother's arms. And father, as Marvin's dad was called, was
- 20:40Speaker 2: still cross dressing, still constantly on his back about his
- 20:44Speaker 2: sinful lifestyle, doing drugs, betraying the Lord through the Devil's music, etc.
- 20:50Speaker 2: And Marvin felt the shame of it all well. However,
- 20:53Speaker 2: different and no matter the conflict, Marvin Gay and Marvin
- 20:56Speaker 2: Gay Senior had one thing in common there need to
- 20:59Speaker 2: be received as men. What we now call toxic masculinity
- 21:04Speaker 2: was a cloud that hung heavy over the Gay household. Marvin,
- 21:08Speaker 2: eager to impress upon his father his capacity to protect
- 21:12Speaker 2: their family, gave father a thirty eight caliber smith and Wesley.
- 21:17Speaker 2: Marvin owned a few firearms himself, purchased because of his
- 21:20Speaker 2: increased conduced paranoia, but arming his dad would prove to
- 21:25Speaker 2: be a disastrous decision. April first, nineteen eighty four, Marvin
- 21:31Speaker 2: heard his mother yelling in fear from down the hall.
- 21:34Speaker 2: He could hear his father's voice shouting her down, and
- 21:37Speaker 2: then his mother again crying out in pain. Father was
- 21:41Speaker 2: beating his woman, Marvin's mom something fierce. Marvin felt his
- 21:46Speaker 2: eyes cross in anger. His throat went dry despite the
- 21:50Speaker 2: cocaine dripping from the back of his nose. His hands
- 21:53Speaker 2: started to shake, his pulse started rapidly pumping blood to
- 21:57Speaker 2: his brain, which was now a black box of shame anger.
- 22:00Speaker 2: He literally felt something in him snap as he rose
- 22:03Speaker 2: out of his bed and just his bathrobe and beanie cap.
- 22:06Speaker 2: The sound of his feet hurriedly pounding the wooden floorboards
- 22:09Speaker 2: of the upstairs hallways sent notice to father that this
- 22:13Speaker 2: beating might not go unchallenged. Just then, Marvin burst into
- 22:17Speaker 2: his mother's bedroom and did what he'd been wanting to
- 22:20Speaker 2: do his whole life. Beat the living hell out of
- 22:23Speaker 2: his old man. That hell had it coming. That hell
- 22:28Speaker 2: was an impenetrable cage. That stole part of Marvin's childhood,
- 22:31Speaker 2: stole part of his confidence, stole part of his identity.
- 22:35Speaker 2: That hell was on the ropes. Marvin, in a blind rage,
- 22:38Speaker 2: rained blow upon blow on to his father until Marvin
- 22:41Speaker 2: finally snapped back into reality. He looked at father, crumpled
- 22:46Speaker 2: on the floor. He'd be all right, but Marvin, Marvin
- 22:50Speaker 2: had that old feeling again, a mix of shame and betrayal.
- 22:55Speaker 2: He headed back to his room, sank into bed, and
- 22:57Speaker 2: steeled himself for his coming depression. But he should have
- 23:01Speaker 2: steeled himself for the coming storm that was the wrath
- 23:04Speaker 2: of his father. For in what seemed like an instant,
- 23:07Speaker 2: Marvin Gaye's dad was standing above him in his bedroom,
- 23:10Speaker 2: looking down on the boy he'd brought into this world
- 23:13Speaker 2: and the man he'd take out of it. His eyes
- 23:16Speaker 2: were black like a doll's. You could smell the meen
- 23:20Speaker 2: on him. At his side. In his hand the thirty
- 23:23Speaker 2: eight Smith and Wesson that Marvin gave him. He took
- 23:26Speaker 2: aim at his son point blank. Marvin knew what was coming, deliverance.
- 23:32Speaker 2: His father pulled the trigger two shots, one in the shoulder,
- 23:36Speaker 2: one in the chest. Marvin Gaye died almost instantly, sad
- 23:43Speaker 2: and senseless. But Marvin was free, free from the shame,
- 23:48Speaker 2: free from the betrayal, free from the paranoia and the addiction.
- 23:53Speaker 2: And there's a theory that Marvin Gay deliberately antagonized his
- 23:56Speaker 2: father as part of some paternal suicidal death wish, knowing
- 24:00Speaker 2: that his dad, armed with the gun he'd given him,
- 24:03Speaker 2: would be unable to let it go and would finally
- 24:06Speaker 2: do what the cocaine was unable to do. The liver
- 24:09Speaker 2: Marvin gave from the shame and the pain to set
- 24:12Speaker 2: him free, and remarkably, Marvin Gay Senior was also free.
- 24:19Speaker 2: He pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter and received what amounted
- 24:23Speaker 2: to a slap on the wrist, five years suspended sentence
- 24:26Speaker 2: for killing for killing his son. His whole life, Marvin
- 24:31Speaker 2: gay struggled with the shame of his father, the cross dresser,
- 24:35Speaker 2: and the notion repeatedly reinforced by his father that Marvin.
- 24:38Speaker 2: Despite his success, he was somehow an embarrassment. Somehow he
- 24:43Speaker 2: was someone who'd betrayed the Lord and betrayed his family
- 24:46Speaker 2: by making a living in the Devil's Workshop as a
- 24:49Speaker 2: secular entertainer. But in the end, it was his father
- 24:53Speaker 2: who committed the ultimate betrayal, betraying the parental covenant, breaking
- 24:58Speaker 2: the one rule every parent should until their dying breath
- 25:02Speaker 2: to protect their children. Shameful, some would say a disgrace.
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