Latest / INSPIRE STORY / The BIG SIGNS You_ve Found THE ONE... (Find The Perfect Relationship)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Be around people that you were thinking about being with
- 0:03in an environment where they're just being themselves, because chances
- 0:06are if you like them the way they are when
- 0:08they are with other people, then you're likely to love
- 0:11them when they're with you too. How did we meet?
- 0:15Speaker 2: Okay, so how did you meet? You want to tell
- 0:16the story.
- 0:21Speaker 1: So the first time I actually met Raddi was before
- 0:26I became a monk, and I met her very briefly.
- 0:30I thought she was beautiful and attractive, but I didn't
- 0:35really think anything of it. Like I just I genuinely
- 0:39just was so focused on what I was doing at
- 0:40life at that time, and I was so spiritually inclined
- 0:44and spiritually focused that I literally didn't think anything of it.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Yeah, and my mom introduced me to you.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Yes, so I should tell that story.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 0:53Speaker 1: So, actually I met Raddi's mom even before I met her,
- 0:58And so I was training to become a monk and
- 1:03I met Radi's mom and I was asked to show
- 1:07her how to do a particular service at the temple,
- 1:11so I had to take her around, et cetera. Now,
- 1:13the incredible thing about this is that that is the
- 1:15only time ever while I was there that I was
- 1:20ever asked to show another person how to do this service.
- 1:23So the one day that I had to show someone
- 1:26how to do this particular service, this voluntary service at
- 1:29the temple, it was one day that her mom turned up.
- 1:33And at that time I didn't know she had a daughter.
- 1:35I didn't know anything about this lady. I was like, oh,
- 1:37she's around my mom's age. Yeah, and she was wonderful
- 1:40and we got along, but I was just showing her
- 1:42what to do, and then literally didn't speak to it.
- 1:45Speaker 3: No.
- 1:45Speaker 2: And then my mom wanted me to get more involved
- 1:48in and I really wanted to get more involved in
- 1:51the spiritual side of my life. And so she met
- 1:55him and wanted me to get introduced to the youth
- 1:59community there, and so she passed on my number to you,
- 2:02but you passed it on to your sister.
- 2:04Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. I passed around to my sister. I
- 2:07was like, no, I need to stay focused, do my thing.
- 2:09And my sister's very spiritually inclined too. Big shout out
- 2:12to Amy and then yeah, and then you guys got
- 2:15connected and you became friends. Yeah.
- 2:16Speaker 2: And actually at that point my mum ha said to me, oh,
- 2:18you know, I'm in this really nice, really nice guy
- 2:21at the temple, and she was like to me, Oh,
- 2:23after I met him, I prayed, and I was like,
- 2:25I hope my daughter meets somebody like this. I know
- 2:27he's going to be a monk, but I hope she
- 2:28meets someone that's like this, because he seems really nice.
- 2:31Little did he know what was going to happen? And
- 2:36then know what happened, he became a monk. I heard
- 2:40you speak. Oh, I heard him speak all the time
- 2:42because he used to do lots of youth programs or
- 2:46university talks and.
- 2:49Speaker 1: So philosophy and meditation.
- 2:51Speaker 3: Yeah, philosophy, meditation.
- 2:52Speaker 2: And I was just like, oh, my gosh, he's such
- 2:54an incredible speaker and the way that he makes such
- 2:57incredible wisdom so relevant and to us who were like
- 3:01young teenagers or ye, young, I was a teenager.
- 3:05Speaker 3: I was a teenager.
- 3:07Speaker 2: You were.
- 3:11Speaker 3: So mad at time.
- 3:13Speaker 1: I remember all the dates.
- 3:15Speaker 3: One who remembers it, Yeah, I don't remember anything.
- 3:17Speaker 2: I barely remember. Things happened like two years ago. So no,
- 3:19I wasn't a teenager. I was out of university, which
- 3:22feels like a long time ago. So I was in
- 3:25my twenties, and yeah, I so him speaking, I just
- 3:28thought was so incredible, how he was able to articulate such, yes,
- 3:32such deep wisdom in a way that was so relevant
- 3:34to people who were so young and and probably wouldn't
- 3:38have been so interested in reading a book about it.
- 3:41And so I was in awe of him. And he
- 3:43also looked really cool. He had like a bald head.
- 3:45He didn't look like the type of person who was
- 3:47going to be speaking about these things. He had like
- 3:49tattoos and a bald head. But then he was in
- 3:51robes and I was like, this is really really cool
- 3:54but weird at the same time. Yeah.
- 4:00Speaker 1: And then it was then when I left being a monk,
- 4:02which is a whole story in itself. We can talk
- 4:04about that another day. When I when I left being
- 4:07a monk, her and my sister were really really close,
- 4:09and me and my sister are really really close. I
- 4:11trust my sister. She's one of my best friends. And
- 4:15I sat down with her one day and she said, well,
- 4:17you know what, ratherly liked someone. And I was just like, oh, who,
- 4:22And I was thinking she was going to say some
- 4:23other person's name, and she's like, she really likes you,
- 4:26and I was like, oh, I really like her, like
- 4:29I'd love to get to know her better, and we'd
- 4:31we'd interacted, we'd had we'd got to know each other
- 4:33a bit better because we'd organize charity events together, et cetera.
- 4:37And so I'd seen her not in the role of
- 4:41being a girlfriend obviously, or someone that I was dating.
- 4:44I'd seen her interact with other people, other humans inside
- 4:50a project management organization, organizing events. So I'd seen her
- 4:54personality and like observed how she behaved around certain people,
- 4:58how she had talked to people, why she interacted with people,
- 5:01and based on all those things, I thought she was
- 5:03a great person. So when my sister told me that
- 5:06I was, I was secretly quite happy as well.
- 5:08Speaker 2: And I always heard about him through his sister, and
- 5:10his sister would talk about him with so much love
- 5:12and affection, and he treats her like she's his baby,
- 5:15no matter how old she gets. She's literally like his baby.
- 5:18And I used to see that conversations between them. He's
- 5:20to be like, oh my gosh, she's so sweet, Like
- 5:22he's so sweet even though he's yeah, he's gone off
- 5:24being a monk, but he was still really, really caring
- 5:27and loving towards towards his sister and his family, and
- 5:30then yeah, I had told her that I liked him before,
- 5:33before he knew about it, or before you'd probably even
- 5:36thought about it.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Yeah, So then that was it. Really, that's how we met.
- 5:40We almost met before I became a monk.
- 5:44Speaker 3: We had conversations.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I never had conversations, never spoke, but had just
- 5:49seen each other in our own elements. Yeah, and then
- 5:53when I left left being a monk, you know, later
- 5:57that year, we started going out. And so that was
- 6:00around the towards the end of twenty thirteen, and then.
- 6:03Speaker 2: It just went really fast. We both kind of as
- 6:06soon as we spoke about it. We both knew that
- 6:07we wanted to be with each other, and we were
- 6:10really certain about it, and it could have gone really wrong,
- 6:13but we were like, we could have both been really crazy,
- 6:16but it ended up just working out. We both really
- 6:19had kind of understood each other just by observing one another,
- 6:22I guess, and there were a few surprises, I'm sure,
- 6:25but we Yeah, we got along straight away, and we
- 6:28were both pretty much went from yeah, I really like
- 6:30you to yeah, I love you in like a day,
- 6:32and then it was like, yeah, we want to get
- 6:33married in like a week, as in, we didn't get
- 6:36married in a week, but we wanted to. We said
- 6:37we wanted to get married eventually in a week after that,
- 6:41and then we ended up spending a lot of time
- 6:42at each other's homes, right, he was spending a lot
- 6:46of time at my house for ages. I mean, that's
- 6:48pretty much where I took him to have all of
- 6:50our dates because I loved being around my family, and
- 6:53I was like, best of both worlds. I can be
- 6:55around the person that I want to spend the rest
- 6:56of my life with and the people that I've spent
- 6:58most of my life with. And so, yeah, most of
- 7:01our dates would involve my parents and my sister and
- 7:06my brother in Laura of the time, and so we
- 7:08got to know each other kind of in our own
- 7:10environments as well really fast, which I think helped us
- 7:13fast forward a lot easier.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And I remember that my sister gave me
- 7:18like an action plan. She's like, this is what you're
- 7:20going to get along on, this is what you're going
- 7:22to struggle with. This is going to be a challenge
- 7:24is and I definitely owe it to her to bring
- 7:27us together.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Yeah, she was a huge part.
- 7:29Speaker 1: She was us being together. My sister definitely, And she
- 7:32was like, because she knows me so well, and I
- 7:34feel she got to know you well as well. She
- 7:36was just like, this is what you guys are going
- 7:38to agree on. This is what you're not going to
- 7:39agree on.
- 7:40Speaker 2: This.
- 7:41Speaker 1: It was just it was so nice to have that, yeah,
- 7:43because you could go into a relationship having more understanding
- 7:47of the other person.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Can I just say one of the things she said
- 7:49that we wouldn't get along on is Bollywood because I
- 7:51loved Bollywood songs and films at the time.
- 7:54Speaker 3: But like a good Bollywood song, questionable.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Question, yeah, question, I decided to get over there. Yeah,
- 8:01and you you barely yeah, yeah.
- 8:03Speaker 3: You've got to love for it.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah. We spent a lot of the time
- 8:06in each other's parents' homes and with our families, which
- 8:10was great because you're to be yourself. I used to
- 8:12love what your mom used to tell you.
- 8:13Speaker 2: My mom was so funny, so obviously like it was
- 8:16the person to her that was you know, we were dating,
- 8:19and so usually you're put in a lot of effort
- 8:22in the way that you dress and uh, doing your
- 8:25hair when the person you're dating comes over. But yeah,
- 8:30I would literally be in the same clothes that I
- 8:31was wearing like the whole day, which was pretty much
- 8:33like pajama bottoms and really scruffy top, and my mom
- 8:36would be like, do you know want to maybe you know,
- 8:38put a different top on, or you don't want to
- 8:40change your trousers?
- 8:41Speaker 3: Like, no, Mom, If he can't love.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Me in what I'm wearing right now, which is what
- 8:46he's probably going to see me for the rest of
- 8:47his life, then it's just not meant to be. Okay,
- 8:49we like he has to love me for and she
- 8:51went okay, but you could try, you know, a little bit.
- 8:54I was like, no, any work.
- 8:55Speaker 1: So yeah, and she's so beautiful and cute, like even
- 8:59though she's dressed all hobo scheek, I'm just like, I
- 9:01love it and it's quite nice actually life, I genuinely
- 9:05believe this, Like I rarely see her with makeup on,
- 9:09and so it's it's fun when you fall in love
- 9:11with someone based on who they are and their personality
- 9:14and their energy and all of that beauty shines through.
- 9:17So yeah, I love you. So that leads us nicely
- 9:20on to the next point that our friends wanted to discuss,
- 9:22which is what's the key to starting off a relationship? Well,
- 9:27what's the key to like, what's the key to starting
- 9:29it off? Well, so one thing for me was was
- 9:32this that because we didn't see each other in dating
- 9:36environments a lot, I feel like dating environments put this
- 9:40pressure of being in an interview. So I compare dates
- 9:43to interviews. It's almost like you have to put your
- 9:45best foot forward, you wear your best clothes, you try
- 9:48and say all the best things, and even if it's
- 9:51not the best, Actually it's us trying to be right.
- 9:53And that's what we do in interviews. When you go
- 9:55an interview for a job, it's like you want to
- 9:56be the right fit for that. Yeah, And that's what
- 9:59happens in a dating scenario. Like you're sitting opposite a desk,
- 10:01just like you're doing an interview, and then someone's asking
- 10:04you a question and you're like, Okay, well what do
- 10:05I have to say to make them like me or
- 10:07to say the right thing? Whereas we didn't really get
- 10:09to do that. And I'm not saying that that was
- 10:11a conscious choice. But now when I look back at
- 10:13it and I reflect on it and introspect on it,
- 10:15I'm like, we didn't really get an opportunity to date
- 10:20in that sense, And that means that I got exposed
- 10:23to the real her, either by seeing her in a
- 10:26charity organization, seeing her in a real life scenario, how
- 10:29does she treat normal people? And then how she is
- 10:32with her family? And I'm like, that's the best view
- 10:35you can get off someone. And so when I look
- 10:37at that in terms of giving advice or tips or whatever,
- 10:40my recommendation is, be around people that you're thinking about
- 10:44being with in an environment where they're just being themselves,
- 10:48because chances are if you like them the way they
- 10:50are when they are with other people, then you're likely
- 10:53to love them when they're with you too. And so
- 10:55often we only see people that we are considering being
- 10:58romantic with or dating, et cetera. We only see them
- 11:01in dates and dinners and movie nights and whatever.
- 11:03Speaker 2: It is, right, Yeah, I agree, I feel like you
- 11:07see and I also seeing people with the people that
- 11:09they're closest to, because you can't really fake it with
- 11:12the people they were closest to. I mean, and if
- 11:14you can, you could do it for a really short
- 11:15period of time, and you also end up seeing them
- 11:18being probably at their worst and at their best, because
- 11:20you can be the most loving to your family, but
- 11:22you can also be the worst person towards your family
- 11:24because they're the ones that accept it. And so yeah,
- 11:26I feel like you get a good image of who
- 11:28the person is through.
- 11:29Speaker 3: Interacting with them that way.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 11:31Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, thanks, Nestley said, it's true.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Yeah. And the other thing is, so when we first
- 11:39got together, i'd left being a monk probably like seven
- 11:42months before, so it'd been like a seven month gap,
- 11:45and I didn't have a job. I had oh yeah,
- 11:48I had no job. I had no money.
- 11:50Speaker 2: No.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I was getting rejected left, right and center from every
- 11:55single place that I was applying to because I'd been
- 11:57a monk for three years, and no one wanted to
- 12:00hire someone who had monk written on their resume, Like
- 12:02no one's like, oh yeah, I would love your transferable skills,
- 12:05like you know, like what do you know? And so,
- 12:07oh you can meditate for four hours? Great, we need
- 12:09that in our organization. So it was just there was
- 12:12no I had nothing, really h And that's a great
- 12:17way to start dating someone because there's very I remember,
- 12:20I used to save up, so I used to like
- 12:22try and work part time, and I was doing everything.
- 12:24I con I was tutoring, so I would like I
- 12:27would be tutoring young people for their exams or university exams,
- 12:31et cetera, and I be making like, you know, fifteen
- 12:34pounds an hour or whatever it was. And I remember
- 12:36i'd save up so I could take her out on
- 12:37a date at the end of the month and so
- 12:39that we could do something fun. And I loved the fact.
- 12:43I loved that because I met her at a time
- 12:45when when I had nothing, and she accepted me for it.
- 12:49I love her for that. And also her parents were
- 12:52always really cool about it. So sometimes that can be
- 12:55a big pressure from parents and expectations, but her parents
- 12:59were really cool about it. They never made me feel
- 13:01uncomfortable about it or anything. And my parents obviously were
- 13:04very comfortable with me. They would just like, follow your heart,
- 13:07do what's right for you, very very encouraging. And I'm
- 13:10not nuncomfortmb a well off background at all or anything,
- 13:12so it's not that I had a backup plan or
- 13:15my parents were still very very encouraging and supporting.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Yeah, that was never in my mind, to be honest,
- 13:22I was. I knew I wanted to be with you,
- 13:24and so I was like to my mum, even if
- 13:26we end up living in a really tiny house just by,
- 13:29like near the temple that I used to go to,
- 13:31and just I know that I want to spend my
- 13:32life with him, so whatever it.
- 13:34Speaker 3: Ends up being.
- 13:34Speaker 2: And you were really really enthusiastic, and you're so much
- 13:38purpose and even from the beginning, like you were so
- 13:41driven to do whatever you wanted to do. I didn't
- 13:43know what that was at the time, but you were
- 13:46so driven that I just knew whatever it was, whatever
- 13:48we were meant to be, was what was going to happen,
- 13:51and so and I knew you would never you were
- 13:53always going to be there to take care of me.
- 13:54And I felt that from the beginning, like I always
- 13:56felt supported. You want to hold hands, yet I'm not
- 13:58good at PDA, so I'm gonna let do that.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Ca Yeah, So that was it was.
- 14:07Speaker 2: It was really nice and I feel like he had
- 14:09a lot of the qualities that I always felt I
- 14:11would always grow up saying, oh, I really want a
- 14:13husband that was like my dad, Like I love my dad,
- 14:15And he was always someone that I felt very protected
- 14:17and supported by, and so I definitely now looking back
- 14:21at it, I felt those qualities in him as I
- 14:23got to know him, and so I thought, yeah, that
- 14:25was that was nice.
- 14:26Speaker 3: And my parents, Yeah, my parents. My parents didn't carry that.
- 14:28Speaker 2: I always thought it would be you know, you always
- 14:30think in Indian families that's going to be an issue.
- 14:33But they loved him from the start. He's got really
- 14:35good I don't know what you guys have noticed, but
- 14:36he's got a really good way of saying things and
- 14:38winning people over by his words. So I know that's
- 14:42why it's genuine and it's sweet. So from those interactions,
- 14:44I think my parents trusted him very easily as well.
- 14:47Speaker 1: I really get along with your parents, I know.
- 14:49Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was so great for me because Amy
- 14:51was already like my sister, and me and your mum
- 14:54got along straight away because we bonded over food and
- 14:57so yeah, it was really easy for us both to
- 14:59join in to each family.
- 15:01Speaker 1: But yeah, another thing I think that's really important at
- 15:03the start of a relationship is self awareness and setting expectations.
- 15:09So I feel that having done the work as a
- 15:11monk and having been through that experience myself, I'd gain
- 15:15so much self awareness. So I was really aware of
- 15:19what type of partner I needed in my life. I
- 15:21was really aware of what I needed in my life
- 15:25to flourish, to thrive, and so when I met someone,
- 15:28it was very easy for me. It was very easy
- 15:31and simple for me to communicate my expectations to her
- 15:34and be like, I remember one of the things I said,
- 15:37and this is not offensive at all, It's genuinely how
- 15:39I felt at the time, And I said that if
- 15:42you want a husband who goes to Ikea on the
- 15:45weekends and to the cinema, like, I'm not that guy.
- 15:48And I didn't mean that as a bad thing, if
- 15:50anyone is that. What I meant that as is I
- 15:53want to be someone who lives their lives of purpose,
- 15:55and I want my life to be about service, and
- 15:57I want my life to have an impact on people's lives.
- 16:00And I need a partner that's gonna understand that, embrace that,
- 16:03and roll with that as well, and wants to live
- 16:06not a normal life, because that wasn't going to work
- 16:09for me if I really wanted to have an impact,
- 16:11if I really wanted to make a difference, if I
- 16:12really wanted to serve. And so that wasn't an ego thing.
- 16:15It wasn't me thinking I'm better or above or specially
- 16:18it was me saying this is a priority for me,
- 16:21and I don't need it to be your priority, but
- 16:23I need you to understand it to be mine. And
- 16:25I think this is really important that we should feel
- 16:28that if we're genuinely committed to something, when you make
- 16:32someone aware and saying back from her side too, like
- 16:35when she and she'll share hers, but when she's made
- 16:38me aware of what her priorities are and what's important
- 16:40to her, you start respecting what's important to the other
- 16:43person rather than expecting them to trade theirs, right, And
- 16:47that's usually what happens in relationships in the beginning, is
- 16:50instead of sharing respect for the other people's passion, you
- 16:53expect them to change their passion for yours or compromise
- 16:57and be excited about your stuff. And I don't think
- 16:59that that's the right way. I think it's us being
- 17:01clear about ourselves, communicating that and then respecting what the
- 17:05other person communicates.
- 17:07Speaker 2: I think we discussed that really early on. Actually, yeah,
- 17:10he just to be clear. He has come to IK
- 17:11with me on the weekends. But you know, I understood
- 17:16the point of it, and I remember at that time
- 17:19when he was really pushing for what he wanted to do.
- 17:22He was very, very busy, and so there were certain things.
- 17:25I mean, he spent a lot of time with me
- 17:26and my family, but we had just agreed that, look,
- 17:29if there was extended things that I had to go do,
- 17:32because with families, there's always other things that you have
- 17:34to go to like family friends or relatives' houses for
- 17:37every event possible. And if that happened, then I knew
- 17:41that I was okay with him not coming to them.
- 17:43And I said that to him from the beginning. If
- 17:46you need to go and do something which is I
- 17:48know for you more important, not because for the purpose
- 17:51that you want to live, then I totally understand that
- 17:54comes above you just coming to another party which people
- 17:57are not probably going to remember like it's okay. And
- 18:01I think that was really actually really important for us
- 18:03because you can always hear what other people say, like
- 18:05family members or friends or whatever will always have a
- 18:08different opinion, and so as long as you feel like
- 18:12you have discussed it and you really understand that person's
- 18:16point of view, then you don't feel kind of it
- 18:20doesn't rub off on you when people say things because
- 18:22you understand it deeply, whereas if you don't. Then. I
- 18:24think it's really easy to get swayed by other people's
- 18:27view of life or other people's way of relationships or
- 18:31whatever it is. Like you can get that can rub
- 18:33off on you very easily. But if you really understand
- 18:35that person and why they're doing it, I think that
- 18:37can make a big difference to you supporting them in
- 18:39why then why they're doing it?
- 18:41Speaker 1: Thank you?
- 18:42Speaker 3: Oh my god, this holding.
- 18:44Speaker 1: Handsing and we had to you know, realize And I
- 18:48really appreciated that from her, Like I really valued that
- 18:52because it wasn't about seeing something as less. It was
- 18:55about seeing something as a priority for me. Yeah, And
- 19:00and having someone who understood that and trusted me and
- 19:04allowed me to have that space strengthened us. And we
- 19:06also very quickly became our We became a team. Yeah.
- 19:11So when it came to our families or like demands,
- 19:13and for anyone who's from an Asian family or an
- 19:16Indian family knows that it's a big deal. It's a
- 19:18big deal, Like family is a big deal, and it
- 19:21gets very involved in a relationship. And I remember saying
- 19:23to her really early on, I was like, it's me
- 19:25and you, like we're a team, Like it's us, and
- 19:28we have to think like that because we've got to
- 19:31wake up next to each other every single day of
- 19:32our lives. We've got to go to sleep together with
- 19:35each other every day of our lives. We've got to
- 19:37be in each other's face and space every single day
- 19:39each other our life. So it's us. We have to
- 19:41be a team. And then, very quickly, like I found
- 19:44that when it was anything to do with my family
- 19:47or my commitments, et cetera, then I would have her back.
- 19:49Whenever she was anywhere and it was about me, she
- 19:51would have my back, and that built like a really
- 19:54strong bond early on.
- 19:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree.
- 19:57Speaker 2: And even if we wanted to discuss it between us
- 19:59and we have a different opinion to the other person,
- 20:03at least to the people that we were speaking to,
- 20:05if we had each other's back, the other person felt
- 20:07supported and comforted by that, whereas I feel if you're yeah,
- 20:12it's just so hard to fight that battle between between
- 20:15the person that you love and like the people that
- 20:16you've spent your whole life with. But I think when
- 20:20you know you're going to, when you understand the reason
- 20:22behind it, I just, yeah, I keep coming back to that.
- 20:24Speaker 3: But I really think it makes such a difference.
- 20:26Speaker 2: I remember earlier on in our relationship, when we were
- 20:29talking about spending time with each other's family or even
- 20:32each other, you said something to me which is stuck
- 20:35with me for a really.
- 20:36Speaker 3: Long time till now. No, it was really good.
- 20:39Speaker 2: He was saying, how you know, we can spend so
- 20:42much quantity of time with people, and it can be
- 20:45spent doing so many different things. You're with each other,
- 20:47but you're actually doing like Okay, you're watching a film,
- 20:49or you're on your phones, or you're spending the whole
- 20:53day together, but how much are you actually interacting with
- 20:55each other? And so I really loved that he would
- 20:58always choose quality time over necessarily over like quantity. So
- 21:03even if he's spending a short amount of time with
- 21:05me or my family or my friends, he would always
- 21:08make sure he's got like they've got his full attention,
- 21:11like he would really make them feel and he genuinely
- 21:13felt that way, that he was investing his full self
- 21:16into that moment. And I think that may make such
- 21:19a difference. I never understood that at the time, because
- 21:21it was always like, you know, when you're spending time
- 21:22with family, it's just family time. But it really made
- 21:26me think about how I spend time with people rather
- 21:28than the amount of time I spend time with people.
- 21:31And as I've seen you do that while we've been together,
- 21:34I just think I've noticed how much people appreciate your
- 21:36full attention and how deeply you connected them even in
- 21:40such a short paced space of time, whereas I've been
- 21:43like the type of person who can spend an hour
- 21:45with someone and my mind can be somewhere else. And
- 21:48it's a training though. Is it's a training thing, definitely,
- 21:50and I've learned that from you.
- 21:51Speaker 3: But it's an.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Incredible quality to have to be able to invest your
- 21:55full self into a conversation or a person. And that's why,
- 21:58like he it's actually really annoying, but he remembers everything,
- 22:01Like he remembers everybody's name, everything I said, like five
- 22:04weeks ago, everything I was wearing. Like It's an amazing quality,
- 22:08but it can also be very annoying because I don't
- 22:09have that memory. So he's like, no, you said this
- 22:11like three weeks ago. It's like, no, I didn't, But
- 22:14I don't have like a book that I write things down,
- 22:15and so I have to take his word for it.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Yeah, five almals a day, guys, five five almens. Yes,
- 22:20my mom would tell me, but no, thank you. I
- 22:23really appreciate it. I remember, and you know, she'd always
- 22:26make an effort. And this is where it comes to
- 22:29using your skills and talents, Like she'd always make an
- 22:31effort to like cook amazing stuff for my family. I
- 22:33remember when you made my sister a minion cake, oh yeah,
- 22:35for her birthday.
- 22:36Speaker 3: That took me a day and a half and it.
- 22:39Speaker 1: Looks so good. And I love minions too, so it
- 22:42was it was so cute and and my mom still
- 22:45remembers the first taught you ever made when I first came.
- 22:49And it's just it's those things, so, you know, using
- 22:53your talents, using your skills, and people appreciate that even
- 22:57more than like taking a week or making time. Like
- 23:00you're saying that quantity, but the quality of a thought,
- 23:03yeah right, even when people say like it's the thought
- 23:06that counts, it's not. It's the quality of the thought
- 23:08that's that's where we make an impact in people's lives.
- 23:12Third topic that our friends want us to discuss is
- 23:16love languages. Oh yeah, and realizing and recognizing our own
- 23:21love languages and the love languages of someone else. So
- 23:24if you don't know what the love languages are, it's
- 23:25a great book by Gary Chapman. I've made lots of
- 23:27videos on it. So there are five love languages, and
- 23:30the five love languages are quality, time, touch, words of affirmation,
- 23:35acts of service, and gifts. So all of us have
- 23:39multiple love languages, but we have a priority a hierarchy order,
- 23:43and we both mostly value one or two as our
- 23:45top love languages. And everyone has them, so you can
- 23:48think about yours as well. This was an interesting lesson
- 23:51for me in relationships.
- 23:52Speaker 3: It took a while to get there.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely took a while, it did, and we got
- 23:57it really wrong for a long time, like it was. Yeah,
- 24:01it was definitely been a journey for sure, because you
- 24:04always end up trying to give the person what you want,
- 24:07Like it's such a natural thing. I forgot it's your show.
- 24:14Yeah no, no, I'm just saying that. It's so I'm
- 24:16just thinking about it back because I'm thinking about all
- 24:18the things I got wrong. But it's so easy to
- 24:21always want to give other people what you love receiving
- 24:24or what you love doing for that person. And I
- 24:27feel like your love languages can be different, and what
- 24:29you like giving to other people and what you like
- 24:32receiving from other people, Like I love cooking for people,
- 24:35and I really appreciate a good meal, but I wouldn't
- 24:37necessarily say that that's my way of showing love. It's
- 24:39not necessarily my way that I feel love given to me.
- 24:43And yeah, I think it took a lot of trial
- 24:46and error. It was a serious experiment going on for
- 24:50a couple of years.
- 24:51Speaker 1: And she's holding back right now. But literally it is hilarious.
- 24:55Like she's the funniest person I know. She makes me
- 24:59laugh the most. And when I yeah, and she's she's
- 25:01getting into she's getting into. You need to go find
- 25:03some stories on Instagram. But when I when I first
- 25:07met her, and when you see her, you're like, oh,
- 25:09she's elegant, Oh yeah, elegant, graceful young woman. And I
- 25:14was just like and I was just like, Okay, so
- 25:16maybe she likes like like, oh, grand gestures and elegant,
- 25:22posh places like That's what I thought. And this just
- 25:24shows us how a the media makes us assume what
- 25:27people like, or we based on how someone appears, we
- 25:30assume what they like. And so that's what I did.
- 25:32I got it completely wrong. And I remember organizing our
- 25:35first date. We went to watch a theater show, which
- 25:37was actually really fun, and then we went to this
- 25:40restaurant that I booked. And this restaurant's called the Candle
- 25:42Locker Telling, which she must.
- 25:44Speaker 2: Have like tutored for about a month to afford that
- 25:47one day date.
- 25:48Speaker 1: Literally, yeah, it was expensive. And this restaurant is like
- 25:51highly in demand, like David Beckham goes there and it's
- 25:55it's one of these, you know, very posh, very grand restaurant.
- 25:57I thought that's what I needed to do, and I
- 26:00was totally wrong. Like we sat there, she looked so
- 26:04uninterested in this.
- 26:05Speaker 3: Space, and I had to wear heels and I don't
- 26:07wear heels.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Like literally it was like I was in a dress
- 26:09I wouldn't normally wear because I thought that's what he wanted.
- 26:12So I was literally in like a dress that like
- 26:14a really gally dress which I wouldn't normally wear, and
- 26:16heels which I normally wouldn't wear. And so we were
- 26:19both sitting in this restaurant and I was really hungry
- 26:23at the end of it, and I said to him
- 26:24at the end, I was like, look, even if you
- 26:25just take me on a walk in a really good
- 26:27supermarket or what did they call it, he grocery store,
- 26:30grocery store supermarket. I was like, that is like the
- 26:33most epic date you could take me on. Get me
- 26:35a few treats from like the from the shelves, we'll
- 26:37go down the gluten free vegan aisle. That would be
- 26:40the best day. And so after that, I think you
- 26:44kind of started to understanding.
- 26:45Speaker 1: I think I still got it wrong. Yeah, it was
- 26:48just and this is my point, like we all get
- 26:50stuff wrong because of previous experiences, the media, what we think, like,
- 26:54all that kind of stuff, and I just kept I
- 26:56got it wrong for a while because I just kept
- 26:59thinking of it. And then I was like, Okay, she
- 27:00likes food. Okay, let's then then I had a moment
- 27:02where it's like, oh, she likes food. So then all
- 27:04I did was buy her cards with food puns and.
- 27:06Speaker 3: Food, which I really like.
- 27:08Speaker 1: And then we only went to like food places for
- 27:10all our dates. So I was starting the closer.
- 27:12Speaker 2: You did. You took me on a date where we
- 27:13went cooking at like Jamie thing.
- 27:16Speaker 3: That really that was fun that you did good? You
- 27:18did good.
- 27:19Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it did take a lot even when
- 27:21I was. And he's a gifts person. Yeah, so I'm
- 27:24gifts and words of affirmation, and I think I'm definitely
- 27:27words of affirmation and quality time maybe quality time do
- 27:32you like?
- 27:33Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 27:33Speaker 3: Do you like quality time?
- 27:34Speaker 2: I think that they're might too, yes, And yeah, what
- 27:39was I saying?
- 27:39Speaker 1: You were saying you like gifts?
- 27:41Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, I'm not so much of a
- 27:43gift person. I don't think I ever really have been,
- 27:46even like on my birthdays and stuff. Like all I
- 27:48really remember growing up is my dad would just take
- 27:51a day off and spend that time with me, and
- 27:52I used to just love that aspect of it rather
- 27:54than the gifts. I do like gifts, but they're just
- 27:57not my main thing. And so I was trying to
- 28:01buy a gift for you, and he wanted like an.
- 28:04Speaker 3: iPad type thing.
- 28:06Speaker 2: You I thought we wanted an iPad type thing, and
- 28:10so I was like looking at I thought we wanted
- 28:14a tablet, And so I was literally looking around for
- 28:16the best spec and like really really good like details
- 28:20of whatever was good and also good pricing because obviously
- 28:23like a good bargain is you need that? I yeah,
- 28:26if you're good drying you need a good bargain. And
- 28:28so I was looking around and I found this amazing
- 28:30Asis tablet. An ass is a good brand to everybody,
- 28:36and so I thought, look, this looks like a really
- 28:38good one. Let me buy it, got it, packed it up,
- 28:40gave it to him. I have never seen disappointment like
- 28:43so bad in my life from opening a gift, because
- 28:46when he says he wants like a tablet, he wanted
- 28:48an iPad. And so I learned that he likes really
- 28:52like good quality, expensive gifts, which I probably still haven't got.
- 28:58Speaker 3: Now we just tell him own gifts.
- 29:00Speaker 1: But last year, she organized the most incredible surprise birthdayvice.
- 29:05So I've loved surprises, and this is another thing about
- 29:09our childhood, et cetera. So I've loved surprises since I
- 29:11was a kid because my mom would always surprise me
- 29:14my birthday. And so i'd really encourage you to reflect
- 29:16on where your preferences and priorities and things that you
- 29:21love get, like, where does that come from? So for me,
- 29:24my love for surprises in life and in everything comes
- 29:27from my mom surprising me on my birthday. And I've
- 29:31never As you grow up, surprises become harder and harder
- 29:34to do for people. And last year, she organized the
- 29:36most epic birthday surprise ever. So it happened two months
- 29:40after my birthday, so I was not expected at all.
- 29:43She told me she was like cooking and catering for
- 29:45a friend's event. So she was cooking this whole week,
- 29:48like working so hard on all of this stuff. And
- 29:51I was just like, how important is this friend because
- 29:53she was going through extreme lengths and I was like, wow,
- 29:57like she's really dedicated to this friend and that was cool,
- 29:59like I it and I was like I love seeing
- 30:01her in an element and loving cooking for someone that
- 30:03she loves, and that was beautiful. And then I think
- 30:07I'm going to an event with my manager and my
- 30:09team the same night, so I'm like, oh, sorry, I
- 30:12won't be able to make it to your event, etc.
- 30:14Like I've got this, You've got that have fun, Like
- 30:16I hope it goes really really well. And then I
- 30:18turn up. I opened the door to this event and
- 30:21it's like all of my friends from LA, like everyone
- 30:24that I love, everyone that really loves and believes in me,
- 30:27like they were all there. Everyone showed up. She made
- 30:30sure that literally every single person that I care about,
- 30:32was there.
- 30:33Speaker 2: There was like a stalker girlfriend looking through his phone
- 30:35and everyone that he mentioned, I'll be like, let me
- 30:37find that person's number, let me get that person's email address.
- 30:39Speaker 1: Yeah, and literally it was just it was genuinely after
- 30:44my wedding, after that the best thing that's ever happened
- 30:46to me, Like it was that good. It was just amazing,
- 30:48Like it was the most beautiful event. It was really
- 30:51half a really meaningful. We had an illusionist. I love
- 30:54magicians and illusionists. I had an incredible show and an
- 30:58incredible DJ playing violin to some of my favorite songs.
- 31:02All my favorite people were there from La, specifically because
- 31:05it was in La, and I just I was just
- 31:09so blown away, Like genuinely, I was like speechless for
- 31:13the first time in my life because she'd completely outdone
- 31:18any expectation I could have ever.
- 31:19Speaker 2: Had, which was the hardest thing ever for me because
- 31:23it was the first time I went to show him
- 31:24that I really understood his love language. And also like
- 31:27the effort that goes that you go through to make
- 31:30something like that happen. One I had no idea until
- 31:32I actually started going through it.
- 31:33Speaker 3: And usually I.
- 31:34Speaker 2: Would get to a point where I would find like
- 31:37an obstacle, and I'd be like, you know what, it's
- 31:39just I'll just take him somewhere instead.
- 31:41Speaker 3: But I forget it. I don't need to do this.
- 31:42Speaker 2: But he puts in a lot of thought into a
- 31:44lot of the dates that he plans, and so I
- 31:46really really wanted to show him that I like that,
- 31:48I really understand it, and like that I've observed things
- 31:51about him and I really noticed what he loves and appreciates.
- 31:55And so it was the hardest thing I've ever had
- 31:58to do in my life.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Like it was so hard.
- 31:59Speaker 2: Pat I'm not planner, I'm not good at organizing. I'm
- 32:02I'm just it's not not my Like I wouldn't say
- 32:05it's my top three skills. Let's just say that. But
- 32:08I was just so happy that I did it because
- 32:09and it was genuinely like the love that I have
- 32:12for him, Is there anything that got me through it?
- 32:13Because otherwise I would have just basically never call me
- 32:16for party planning.
- 32:17Speaker 3: Never.
- 32:18Speaker 1: I'm so blessed to have her in my life because
- 32:20and she cooked for everyone too, so I did, yeah,
- 32:22cook for everyone. She organized event. They were like eighty
- 32:24people there. It was amazing, and I'm so grateful to
- 32:27you for doing that. They literally is the best thing.
- 32:29Speaker 2: Glad you liked it, thank god, because imagine you hated it.
- 32:32Speaker 1: No, I loved it. I loved it. It was amazing and
- 32:34and yeah, it's just it was incredible and it just
- 32:36shows like we've been together now for nearly six years. Yeah,
- 32:42and it takes time to learn about each other. It
- 32:45takes time to grow each other. But the point is,
- 32:47are you waking up enthusiastic and energetic every day to
- 32:52fall in love with that person again? Like that's the
- 32:54question you have to ask yourself, Like are you looking
- 32:57for more reasons to get that person to change for you?
- 33:02Or are you looking for more reasons to be like, No,
- 33:04I want us to feel more in love. I want
- 33:06us to learn about each other. I want to give
- 33:07more to you every day. I want to be better
- 33:09for you every day. Or are you looking for how
- 33:11that person could be better for you? And if it's
- 33:13the other way around, then most likely that relationship is
- 33:16not going to last too long or it's gonna be
- 33:18very one way. But if it's like, how can I
- 33:20be better for that person every single day? And it
- 33:22may take time, and it has taken us time, Yeah,
- 33:25to completely understand each other more, etc. And we've been
- 33:27throw a lot. I want to get to that as well,
- 33:30but that you know, it takes time, and it's okay
- 33:32as long as you're waking up every day with that intention,
- 33:35with that motive, with their desire.
- 33:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:36Speaker 2: I definitely think it's about what you feel you're bringing
- 33:39to the other person rather than what you feel you
- 33:40can get from the other person. I think that makes
- 33:42such a difference because.
- 33:44Speaker 1: When both people do that, Yeah, when.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Both people do that, when you feel like, Okay, well,
- 33:48this is what I can provide. Like, and I love
- 33:50what you say about everyone having different skills, because even
- 33:53in a relationship, I think I have such We are
- 33:56very different in a lot of ways.
- 33:58Speaker 3: In majority of the ways, we're very different.
- 33:59Speaker 1: I had to say we're.
- 34:00Speaker 2: Yeah, And so instead of seeing that as things that
- 34:02are taking us apart from each other, I think we
- 34:05really tried to say, okay, cool, I love being in
- 34:07the kitchen, for example, and you're really good at doing
- 34:11all the math stuff to do with bills, and I
- 34:13really don't want to do that. And so instead of
- 34:15trying to be like, oh no, we should be equal
- 34:16in like, you know, doing this and doing that.
- 34:18Speaker 3: No, let's just play to our strengths.
- 34:20Speaker 2: And I think that made a huge difference because I
- 34:22didn't feel pressure to do things which I really don't
- 34:24feel comfortable doing. If I had to do them, I
- 34:26would have. But thankfully we both kind of are good
- 34:30at areas which the other person is maybe not so
- 34:33good at. Yeah, And so we just played to our
- 34:36strengths and we weren't annoyed at the other person for
- 34:38not being able to do those things. We just understood
- 34:40that we have skills in different areas and we can
- 34:43contribute to the relationship with those skills rather than trying
- 34:46to be like all round us in all areas, which
- 34:48doesn't work for us.
- 34:49Speaker 1: And the key to that, I love that. And the
- 34:51key to that is valuing what the other person brings as.
- 34:55Speaker 3: Equal as equal.
- 34:56Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, So it's like it's not saying, oh, if
- 34:59you're more skill, it is different to mine. But my
- 35:02skill does this, like my skill fulfills this or my
- 35:05skill sorts this out, Like that's more important. And I
- 35:08think that's where it gets hard, where we either try
- 35:11and equalize our skills, which I agree with you is
- 35:12not a good idea with strengths or the opposite thing
- 35:15people do is they do their skill, but then they
- 35:17think their skill adds more value to the relationship. And
- 35:20I think that again just ruins it. Like you said,
- 35:22you're on a team. Like when you look at a
- 35:24sports team, one player can't say I'm more important than
- 35:29the rest of the team. It's a team game. And
- 35:31I'm going to try and do a food analogy. Now,
- 35:33I'm trying to give a food analogy. Like no, like
- 35:35let hear me out, hear me out, Okay, like one
- 35:39ingredient can't be like the other ingredient, I'm more important
- 35:41than you, yes, yeah, yes, yeah, because you need all
- 35:44of them. No, but still, but yeah, I'll give you that.
- 35:48You can't have one ingredient that's more important than the
- 35:51other ingredient.
- 35:51Speaker 2: And yeah, I totally agree. No, I agree, you did great.
- 35:55That was a great food analogy. But I remember this
- 35:58actually because when I've been a housewife for a while,
- 36:01like I stayed work from home and I'm studying and stuff,
- 36:05so I remember from home, I work from home, but
- 36:08I still as in, yeah, I'm more of a housewife
- 36:10than I am working and so and I love that.
- 36:14I love doing I love cooking, and I love doing
- 36:16all the things that I do do.
- 36:18Speaker 3: But when we were in New York, I remember.
- 36:21Speaker 2: He was working at that time for Huffington Post, so
- 36:23he was out most of the day and he would
- 36:25just come back in the evening and he would come
- 36:28back and I would have just finished cooking, and he
- 36:30would always be like, oh, like, can I do anything
- 36:32for you?
- 36:32Speaker 3: Can I wash up?
- 36:33Speaker 2: Like you've been working hard all day? And that for
- 36:35me was such a big thing because it's like, actually,
- 36:37in my mind, it was like he's been working hard
- 36:39all day, but he would come home and ask me
- 36:41if I needed a massage or if I wanted him
- 36:44to wash up or do anything in the house. And
- 36:47like a lot of people think that should just be
- 36:48a given, like oh, like, yeah, I've been doing the
- 36:50house stuff all day, so come home and.
- 36:52Speaker 3: You should be washing the dishes.
- 36:53Speaker 2: But I just think, actually, if you see as that's
- 36:55such a sweet thing for him to have done in
- 36:57my eyes, because he could not do that. We could
- 37:00all just not do a lot of things, but if
- 37:01we put in that extra bit of effort and show
- 37:03that person that I value you and what you're doing
- 37:06just as much as I value what I'm doing like people,
- 37:09you know, going to work seems like you're going out
- 37:12and doing the hard work.
- 37:13Speaker 3: But you also saw that I.
- 37:14Speaker 2: Was doing the washing or the cleaning or the cooking,
- 37:17and you valued it in the same way as going
- 37:19to work. And I thought that was a really yeah,
- 37:22that was a that was a big thing for me.
- 37:23And he's been like that the whole time, so I
- 37:25think it's the same.
- 37:26Speaker 1: I think for me as well, Like she was so
- 37:29good at doing that, like she would put our heart
- 37:31into it, right, It wasn't just doing it. And I
- 37:34think that's the point here. It's it's not about doing
- 37:37the activity, it's about putting your heart into it. Like
- 37:39it would always be like, oh, let me. It was
- 37:41like the other day, I was just like, we just
- 37:42got back from India, and when I'm in India, I
- 37:44eat doses a lot. Doses are incredible if you know that.
- 37:47If you don't know, they all go get a dose, yes,
- 37:49And I loved them. And I was literally just like
- 37:50I was like I missed doses every.
- 37:52Speaker 3: Day every morning.
- 37:54Speaker 1: I know, she ordered a dos and maker and we
- 37:56had doses.
- 37:57Speaker 3: It went terribly wrong, everyone terribly wrong, but.
- 38:00Speaker 1: Still I loved it like it was it was the
- 38:03love in it, and I think that's the same. You know.
- 38:06She believes in cooking with devotion and seasoning with love,
- 38:10and for me, she lives that every single day, Like
- 38:13that's there's not a day when I don't feel like
- 38:16food is an offering of love. So then you can't
- 38:19help but value it like it's not you don't have to.
- 38:21It's not hard. It's not hard to value it. That's
- 38:24what I'm trying to say. Thanks, But yeah, this.
- 38:26Speaker 3: Is getting bit sweet, isn't it.
- 38:27Speaker 1: I know, why don't you change it up? Yeah, I'm
- 38:30living it to you to make it funny. I'm the
- 38:32romantic in the room. Yes, she's the comedy.
- 38:34Speaker 2: This is always the case. Like my his cards to.
- 38:37Speaker 3: Me this is a wrong com Yes, it's them.
- 38:40Speaker 2: His cards to me are like the sweetest, really genuine
- 38:44from the heart, and my cards are like funny, weird
- 38:46poems that are like I really like your face, you
- 38:50don't know how to make cake? Like literally those are
- 38:52that is what my cards were like. I don't think
- 38:55I think maybe one out of fifteen cards were maybe
- 38:59somewhat like sweet and loving, but otherwise, Yeah, I've always
- 39:02been the jokester, and you generally are the sweet one.
- 39:06Speaker 1: You are, Yeah, you are. There's a I'm going to
- 39:09live up to my live up to my romantic tag
- 39:13in this relationships. I always say this to her because
- 39:16I mean it, and it's I don't know who said it,
- 39:18but it's it's beautiful and it said that. They said, Oh, no, I.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Know it's going to say everybody, cue the cue the
- 39:28romantic music.
- 39:29Speaker 1: And the tissues and anybody needs if you they said,
- 39:37if you want her to fall in love with you,
- 39:39you have to make her laugh. But now every time
- 39:42she laughs, I'm the one who falls in love.
- 39:44Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure that's from a grime artist in
- 39:47London in some sort of a rap song.
- 39:50Speaker 1: It's great though. Anyway. It is a really topic. Number four,
- 39:54what's your favorite thing to do together? So our friends
- 39:57wanted just to discuss. This is easy.
- 39:59Speaker 3: What's our favorite thing to do together? Eat? So that's
- 40:02my favorite. What's our favorite thing to do together?
- 40:06Speaker 1: I had an easy answer to this is oh.
- 40:09Speaker 3: Okay, I like, what do we like? What do we
- 40:13like to do together?
- 40:14Speaker 1: Mine was activities and experiences.
- 40:16Speaker 3: I thought it was like a specific one.
- 40:18Speaker 1: No, like activity, Yeah, we love.
- 40:19Speaker 2: Doing that like escape rooms, and we went to a
- 40:22virtual reality escape room.
- 40:23Speaker 3: The other day we went on a hike.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Oh thanks, We go on hikes and we just love
- 40:31doing the experiences you're right, experiences and activities we do
- 40:34try and do, Like we've gone through the thing of
- 40:36where we try and go shopping together or movies and stuff,
- 40:39but we generally find we have a lot more fun
- 40:42when we're doing activities where we're contributing to something together.
- 40:45Speaker 1: One of the first dates we went on almost go
- 40:47ape and so if anyone who doesn't know what go
- 40:49ape is, go ape is like a assault course but
- 40:53in the air, so you're like swinging around. It's like
- 40:56Tarzan kind of stuff. And we loved it because it
- 40:58was just like it was active. We're both doing stuff together,
- 41:01helping each other out. We have escape rooms, even though
- 41:03there are times I think we've evolved with before.
- 41:06Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the first time I went on an escape
- 41:08to an escape room with him, I was like, we
- 41:10are never doing this again because I'm so relaxed, and
- 41:13I'm just like, oh, you know, if.
- 41:15Speaker 3: We win, it's fine.
- 41:16Speaker 2: If we don't win, it's like, you know, we participated
- 41:18and that's what counts.
- 41:20Speaker 3: And he's like, come on, we have to do this.
- 41:22Speaker 1: Get over there.
- 41:24Speaker 2: I'm not angry, You're not angry, but you're like very enthusiastic.
- 41:27And so I'm sitting on the chair like were meant
- 41:29to be escaping a prison and I'm just sitting there
- 41:31with like a hammer in my hand, and he's like
- 41:33looking around everywhere trying to search for it.
- 41:35Speaker 3: He's like, why are you not helping?
- 41:37Speaker 1: And then the trap door opens because she like get
- 41:40it right anyway, just by being chilled out, now I
- 41:42realized trust her. So we did that recently and I
- 41:46trusted and.
- 41:47Speaker 3: It was good and I actually got quiet.
- 41:49Speaker 1: Well, we enjoyed it. We did that was activities and experiences,
- 41:52getting outdoors, doing stuff together, solving puzzles, something that engages
- 41:58us in talking, discussing, doing Achieving something together is a
- 42:02great thing. Yeah, achieving something together. When we went for
- 42:05that cooking class, for example, like we cooked a meal together,
- 42:08like that was fun and then we ate it. When
- 42:10you create together, yeah, it's such a special experience.
- 42:14Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so true.
- 42:15Speaker 1: And I think that more of us should find time
- 42:17with our other hearts or even people who are dating
- 42:19or getting to know to create together. You just learn
- 42:22more about the person. It's so much quicker, so much ease.
- 42:25Speaker 2: We've also started spending a lot of time. Because of
- 42:29how our schedules work, sometimes we end up just spending
- 42:32time together with just catching up and talking, which actually
- 42:34is quite nice because we didn't used to do that,
- 42:37and I think that used to get us to a
- 42:38point where we felt like we maybe didn't know each
- 42:40other as well as we wanted to, or understand each
- 42:42other as well as we wanted to. But now we
- 42:44do take out time to just like catch up and
- 42:48ask the other person about what's going on, me more
- 42:50so than him. He used to do this anyway, but
- 42:52I now am asking a lot more questions, and we
- 42:55really try to invest our interest into the other person,
- 42:59which is great.
- 43:00Speaker 1: Yeah, and we love meditating together, and we love.
- 43:01Speaker 3: Going to get vegan donuts together.
- 43:03Speaker 1: So yes, that's true. So I'm going to go to meditation.
- 43:06But literally, when we met, I used to teach your
- 43:08philosophy and meditation. I said this all the time. She's
- 43:11now a better meditator than me. She's more serious, she's
- 43:14more focused, she's more sincere, she's more devoted. It's amazing,
- 43:18like being able to have that in my life is
- 43:21so powerful, and that I put above anyone bringing in
- 43:26conscious spiritual intention and energy into a relationship. That's above
- 43:32someone bringing money, that's above someone bringing anything else. Like
- 43:36that's just the most powerful thing that you can bring
- 43:38into a relationship because it's helping you eternally, it's helping
- 43:42you for the rest of your life. And I think
- 43:44it's undervalued of how much bringing positive, beautiful spiritual energy
- 43:50is into a relationship. And you've been doing that since
- 43:52day one in our relationship, Like she literally for the
- 43:55first I think the first few years we were dating,
- 43:58she was like waking up at four am and going
- 43:59to medical with the monks every morning, right like with
- 44:02the community. And she did that like while she was
- 44:05working a job, while she was planning our wedding, while
- 44:07she was working at the hospital, et cetera, and all
- 44:09the rest of it. And so I feel that you've
- 44:12prioritized your spiritual practices so highly and I love you
- 44:17for that, and it's made such a difference in our relationship.
- 44:20And for me, it's like, what can I do to
- 44:22let you keep having that? Like what can I do
- 44:24to keep letting you be that light in our life?
- 44:27Because that's something that you can't buy like, you can't
- 44:32you can't buy that anywhere, you can't just make that
- 44:35happen anywhere. And I value that more than any other contribution.
- 44:38Speaker 2: And I learned it all from him, Sir, I did
- 44:41I learned. I actually learned it all from him. Like
- 44:43him and my mom have been like the two and
- 44:46my grandma, they've been the people who have really been
- 44:50the key factors of spirituality in my life, and obviously
- 44:52my spiritual teacher too. But yeah, he he has really
- 44:56showed me what leading a spiritual path and really focusing
- 45:00on it, what you can actually become from it. And
- 45:02I think that's a great motivation because all the qualities
- 45:05and everything that he is now that's positive has come
- 45:07from the time when he was a monk, I think,
- 45:10would you agree, Yeah, and yeah, I just really feel
- 45:14that seeing someone live it after they've really gone through
- 45:17an intense period of being in a spiritual mindset, in
- 45:23an intense spiritual mindset for that longer period, I really
- 45:27see those qualities in him day to day and how
- 45:30he reacts to things day to day is the product
- 45:34of his hard work that he's put in during that
- 45:37time and I think that's a great motivation for me
- 45:40because I'm just like, well, I want to see life
- 45:41in that way, like I want to see situations in
- 45:43that way, or react to people in that way, or
- 45:45interact with people in this way. And I think everything
- 45:48has been from that time in your life, and so yeah,
- 45:51I really think he's been a great inspiration for me
- 45:54in that area. And I just know that that's what
- 45:57brings me the most happiness. And when I don't do
- 45:59those practices, I know is every part of my life suffering.
- 46:02So I know that if I really feel like I'm
- 46:05not dedicating enough time to my spiritual practices, then I'm
- 46:10a lot snappier with you, and I'm a lot like
- 46:12my relationships suffer. My quality of like the rest of
- 46:17the day just doesn't feel like it's got as much
- 46:19quality as it could have. I haven't got the most
- 46:21out of the rest of my day because I haven't
- 46:24prioritized my soul and my connection to God at the
- 46:29beginning of the day. And for me, that's so important,
- 46:31and so yeah, I think it really it definitely does
- 46:35impact relationships, well, my relationships around me. If I don't
- 46:39have that in my life consistently and with quality.
- 46:42Speaker 3: I think it makes a huge difference.
- 46:43Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like your relationship to your spiritual practice is
- 46:46the most important relationship. Because of that relationship being.
- 46:49Speaker 2: Right, it filters into everything else completely. How I feel
- 46:53in my spiritual practice is how I end up feeling
- 46:56towards other people around me. And so if I don't
- 46:58feel like I put my best in to that, then
- 47:00I know it filters through everywhere else. And I've observed
- 47:03that in myself, and so I think for the sanity
- 47:06of everyone around me, I have to make sure I
- 47:08do it too, because it's not just me. It affects
- 47:10It affects everybody I come into contact with, because I'm
- 47:13a product of that.
- 47:14Speaker 1: I feel. Yeah, do you want to add anything on that?
- 47:18Speaker 3: No, I think I'm good.
- 47:19Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Next thing is what's your favorite thing
- 47:22about each other?
- 47:23Speaker 2: Oh? I feel like we've said enough now, you know
- 47:26I'm taking We've said it. Love, I have to say
- 47:29one thing. I want to say one thing. I think
- 47:30one of my favorite the favorite thing about you is
- 47:33how you see things, how you see situations. Like they
- 47:38say that with a monk mindset, you should be able
- 47:40to see things very It's called what's the word equilibriat equipois.
- 47:45Speaker 3: Yeah, equanimity. I always get that word wrong.
- 47:48Speaker 2: So when you whether something goes bad or something goes good,
- 47:51you're able to have a very like neutral mindset to
- 47:54that situation and not get too excited when things go
- 47:58really really well and not get too sad when things
- 48:00get really bad. And I think from all the ups
- 48:03and downs that we've been through, whether it's with your
- 48:04career or whatever it's been, every time something goes wrong,
- 48:09even if like you miss a plane, whatever it is,
- 48:12he never gets to a point where he's like, oh
- 48:13my gosh, this is the worst thing ever, which is
- 48:16my usual reaction to like before would have been my
- 48:18usual reaction to things. He is always just like it's
- 48:20just part of the plan, Like this just makes the
- 48:22story so much better. And I just really appreciate that
- 48:26because it's made me not overreact and made me see
- 48:29perspective in so many situations and made me realize that actually, yeah,
- 48:33like that quality of And he doesn't get too excite
- 48:35anything good that happens, like whether he wins awards or whatever,
- 48:39like the coolest thing may happen, and he never gets
- 48:41too excited, like he appreciates it, and he just you know,
- 48:44in his mind he prays and offers it back to
- 48:46his spiritual teacher. And I just think it's such a
- 48:48deep practice to have to not get too excited and
- 48:52bask in your success. I would, yeah, and not be
- 48:57too sad and like kind of sit in your sadness
- 49:01for too long. And I think he really has that
- 49:04great balance of being able to snap out of things
- 49:06and seeing things he doesn't even have to snap out
- 49:08of it. He just doesn't see it in that way,
- 49:09like he's trained his mind to see things in a
- 49:11way where everything is just part of the journey and
- 49:14nothing is up, up and down, up and down, up
- 49:16and down. It's all quite like like a little wave
- 49:19rather than like a tide.
- 49:23Speaker 1: So yeah, thanks, I really appreciate that. Yeah, And hers
- 49:26is so easy. Anyone who's met her already knows this. Literally,
- 49:29like every one of my friends I introduce her to,
- 49:31they fall in love with her and become best friends
- 49:34with her, And then I'm third wheeling all of a sudden. Yeah,
- 49:37And I love that, Like it's the best feeling in
- 49:39the world that everyone I introduced her to, everyone she meets,
- 49:43she just has this pure genuine light and all I'm
- 49:49like in life is like, don't screw that out, Like
- 49:51don't mess that up, like like let her be that light,
- 49:53Like just let her be what she is. And you
- 49:57know how her parents have raised her, like how her
- 50:00grandmother's had an impact on her, like everything she has,
- 50:02like her spiritual teacher, her spirituality, everything that she has,
- 50:06Like it's so pure and genuine and full of love.
- 50:09Like I always tell her, she she's like the best
- 50:11person I've met. And I just want, you know, I
- 50:14just want everyone to experience that, Like that's I want
- 50:17everyone to experience that, And that's partly why we're doing
- 50:19this this podcast, is because I want everyone to experience
- 50:22that there are people in the world who just have
- 50:24no agendas that are love, that are being love at
- 50:28all times, that don't have any like negative motive towards
- 50:32anyone or don't want to have like end real jealousy
- 50:34or bring someone else down to feel better. And I
- 50:37think she has that in abundance and everyone feels it,
- 50:41Like as soon as she walks into a room, she
- 50:42lights it up with her presence and energy. And that
- 50:44doesn't mean like being the loudest person in the room,
- 50:47she's rarely that. It doesn't mean being the most talkative person.
- 50:50It just means being that energy. And I know all
- 50:52of you who know her know that and feel it,
- 50:55and I get to feel it every day.
- 50:56Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, anything that's true, But things I
- 51:00do love I've just realized. I mean, I've been through
- 51:03so many ups and downs of my own journey of
- 51:07you know, jealousy and whatever it is, and not being
- 51:10that person for people and not being someone who can help,
- 51:13who can be the joy for somebody else, but going
- 51:18through that and coming out the other end through a
- 51:20lot of journaling I've talked about this before and a
- 51:23lot of introspection, I just realized I actually get so
- 51:26much more joy of being other people's joy. Like I
- 51:28love making people laugh, I love making people feel loved,
- 51:31and I love making people feel like they're cared for
- 51:34and looked after.
- 51:36Speaker 3: And whatever is I love.
- 51:38Speaker 2: And I've realized actually it's more of a selfish thing
- 51:40because I love doing that for other people. I get
- 51:42the joy out of it. And so yeah, I think
- 51:45if you can light up someone's life in some small way,
- 51:48or like make someone laugh, you just never know what
- 51:50they're going through. And so I just think it's such
- 51:53a sweet thing to share and give out to someone.
- 51:55That you can give a lot of things up, but
- 51:57if you're able to give love and happiness to someone
- 52:00in a small way every single day, like, it's such
- 52:02a beautiful it's a gift, Like it's such a sweet
- 52:05gift to give out to people. So I'm grateful that
- 52:09I'm able to do that for you sometimes and for
- 52:11other people.
- 52:13Speaker 1: Thanks.
- 52:14Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, I do an American accent whenever I'm like
- 52:16it's probably the worst American accent that you guys have heard,
- 52:19but I do accents.
- 52:21Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. Next thing is do you fight and how
- 52:28do you deal with that conflict?
- 52:30Speaker 3: Yeah? We fight? We fight, Yeah, we do fight.
- 52:33Speaker 2: But I mean I have to say five stone lasts
- 52:35that long with us. I think that's probably the key
- 52:38thing like we have been through, especially when we went
- 52:41understanding each other's love languages, especially when I wasn't understanding
- 52:43him more so than the other way around. When we argued,
- 52:47my thing would be shutting down and not wanting to
- 52:50speak about it and like not communicating and not answering
- 52:53phone calls, and for him it would be like, no,
- 52:56I want to talk about it. And I want to
- 52:57get through it, and let's like, let's really discuss everything.
- 53:01And at the time it just felt like for me,
- 53:03I was like, no, I need space. But the more
- 53:05I've accepted the way that he likes to resolve things,
- 53:10the more I realized that, actually, it so makes so
- 53:12much more sense, because yeah, you may need space for
- 53:14a short period of time, but unless you talk through
- 53:16and process it together, you never get over that. And
- 53:19then it's brought up in the next argument and the
- 53:21argument after that and the argument after that. Whereas if
- 53:23you're able to really sit down and work through whatever,
- 53:25even if it's a really small issue like picking your
- 53:28shoes up from in front of the door, which is
- 53:29something we've spoken about a few times. But even if
- 53:32there's something as small as that, just discussing and explaining, okay, fine,
- 53:36this makes me feel like you don't value me because
- 53:38who else are you expecting to pick up those shoes?
- 53:40Speaker 3: For example, it's a mutual thing.
- 53:41Speaker 2: I leave my shoes there too, But I'm just saying,
- 53:44even if you break it down to that level of saying, actually,
- 53:47it's not the action, it's what I feel you're thinking
- 53:51when you're doing that action, And so it's usually isn't
- 53:55the action. It's usually not what the person's done. It's
- 53:57usually how it makes you feel from that.
- 53:59Speaker 3: Person, If that makes sense.
- 54:01Speaker 1: That great point, and so.
- 54:03Speaker 2: I think breaking it down to that level of the
- 54:05feeling you're getting from that person by him doing that
- 54:08or by her doing that, actually.
- 54:10Speaker 3: Resolves the issue so much faster.
- 54:12Speaker 2: And that has been completely you because he really never
- 54:16we've never slept really on an argument. We've at least
- 54:19discussed it before, and I really really believe in that
- 54:21I heard it so much. But the more we've argued
- 54:24and the more we've resolved it before we've gone to sleep,
- 54:26like the next morning we are fresh and ready to
- 54:28go like nothing's happened, and not because we're ignoring it,
- 54:31and not because we're pretending like it didn't happen or
- 54:34we've brushed it under the rug, but because we have
- 54:36really talked about it and tried to understand it from
- 54:39each other's point of view. And I think, I really
- 54:42think that's made such a big difference to the way
- 54:44we argue.
- 54:44Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great point. That's such an
- 54:46important point. I think the point around it's not about
- 54:50the action that hurts it's about how that action makes
- 54:52someone feel is so much more important. Because sometimes I'm
- 54:57doing something really small and I'm getting it wrong. Oh
- 55:00it's so small. But then she's like, no, it's big,
- 55:03and I'm like, well, how's it big? And then she's like,
- 55:05because this how it makes me feel. I'm like, oh,
- 55:06that is big, right, And then I have that moment
- 55:08of like ah, like the penny drops and I'm oh, okay,
- 55:12it's big. It's not small again.
- 55:14Speaker 2: Because you're never really doing things to it like, it's
- 55:16not like you're doing it intentionally. And I also and
- 55:18it's also understanding that aspect of it, like saying that
- 55:21I am always reminding yourself that if you know that
- 55:24person loves you, then they are never going to be
- 55:26doing things to intentionally like prodict you or intentionally make
- 55:30you feel a negative emotion. And if we are doing that,
- 55:34then we should be very aware of it. And sometimes
- 55:36saying things like remarks of that are in a sarcastic
- 55:39tone or whatever, Actually those things can build up and
- 55:41you feel like you're saying in a jokey way. I
- 55:43used to do that all the time, saying things in
- 55:46like a sarcastic funny way to try and get a
- 55:48point across to you. But now I realize that actually
- 55:51just asking you in a polite way, in a sweet way,
- 55:53in a loving way, can have so much more impact
- 55:56than me sarcastically.
- 55:57Speaker 3: Throwing something in there.
- 56:00Speaker 2: And yeah, so I think the way that we say
- 56:02things and the thought behind it actually makes such a difference.
- 56:05And now I know, like whenever you do anything, even
- 56:08if it's small, when I process it in my mind
- 56:11before I say a lot of things to you, and
- 56:12actually it goes away because I'm like, I know the
- 56:14intention is not that And if I do want you
- 56:16to do something, then I'll just ask you politely. And
- 56:18I've noticed the difference that it makes in the way
- 56:22that we speak to each other and when we think
- 56:23about it and process it like that rather than rather
- 56:26than just shouting out whatever comes into our mind. That's
- 56:29not going to help, like not being able to control
- 56:31what's coming out of your mouth.
- 56:33Speaker 1: Yeah, And anyone who says they don't argue isn't true.
- 56:36Like everyone argues, everyone fights, Everyone has disagreements and they're
- 56:40good and they're good to work through because disagreements usually
- 56:43just arise because we all are different upbringings, we all
- 56:45are different backgrounds, we're all raised differently, we're raised in
- 56:48different amounts of space, we're raised differently in terms of responsibility.
- 56:52And so now you're putting two different people with two
- 56:53different responsibilities together. And if you don't argue about it,
- 56:57you don't disagree about it, if you don't talk it out,
- 56:59then all you do, like she said, is you just
- 57:01end up living the same thing again and again and again.
- 57:05It's really important to draw boundaries as well, like recognizing
- 57:09like this, these are certain things that really annoy me,
- 57:11like to say that when you first move in with someone, Yeah,
- 57:14these are things that annoy me, Like these are my
- 57:16top three things that will get on my nerves. Like,
- 57:18let's try and avoid that. And the other person gets
- 57:20to say the same. You're gonna just avoid so much hassle,
- 57:23rather than like thinking, oh, for the first week, it's fine,
- 57:25I'm going to do everything for that person, and then
- 57:28you end up feeling upset because they're not reciprocating whatever.
- 57:31Just just set your expectations, draw the boundaries, be really
- 57:34open and honest about what works for you and what
- 57:38does it Yeah, and then and then figure out which
- 57:40part you can help each other on agreed, So I'm
- 57:42going to ask you one more question for us. Then
- 57:45I want to talk a lot about you. So anyone
- 57:47who's watching or listening right now, if you've got this far,
- 57:49I hope you've enjoyed it. We've been introducing you to
- 57:52the world of us, but I really also want to
- 57:55introduce you to the world of my wife. She's incredibly talented,
- 57:59She's got so many great insight I want you to
- 58:01learn about her and fall in love with her as
- 58:04much as I am. But before we do that, we
- 58:05take the last question. The last question is how do
- 58:07you deal with my hectic travel schedule?
- 58:10Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 58:10Speaker 1: I get ask that my type of work.
- 58:12Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 58:14Speaker 2: I think we've both been very independent people in our relationship,
- 58:19and I think when it comes to us being separate,
- 58:23like it's just letting the other person get done what
- 58:25they need to get done. If I need to be
- 58:27away for work or you need to be away for work.
- 58:29I know it's not that you have travel.
- 58:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that.
- 58:31Speaker 2: It's not that you want to be away from me
- 58:34or that I want to be away from you.
- 58:35Speaker 3: It's that we need to get stuff done. It's not
- 58:37the end of the world.
- 58:38Speaker 2: We love each other, but we also need to go
- 58:41and do what we love doing. And so when I can,
- 58:44I travel with you. But if I can't, I catch
- 58:46up with the stuff that I really need to get
- 58:48done that maybe I'm not able to do in condensed
- 58:51like time when we're together, and so you just use
- 58:54as an opportunity to get those things done. And yeah,
- 58:57I just think, I just think we're we're really good
- 59:00at being independent and we're really good at being together.
- 59:02Speaker 3: And I don't know whether to answer the question, but yeah, yeah.
- 59:05Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And I miss her when I'm away from her.
- 59:07It's not like I don't miss her. And we both
- 59:09travel for work, so I can be away. I'm usually
- 59:12away for shorter stints more regularly, and she's away for
- 59:15longer stints irregularly. Yes, that's kind of how it works.
- 59:18So she could be away for like a month or two,
- 59:21but that happens like once or twice a year, and
- 59:23then I could be away for like three nights, but
- 59:26I do that regularly, yeah, every month. And so we
- 59:30both learned that we get more done personally, which is
- 59:33really powerful. If you get to focus on what you're doing,
- 59:36I get to focus on what I'm doing. We miss
- 59:38each other more so when we get back together, we're
- 59:39really excited to be with each other. So that adds
- 59:41another level of incredible beauty in a relationship. And the
- 59:45other thing is, I think I've really believe that you
- 59:49have to be whole to then enhance each other in
- 59:52a relationship. I don't know if you want to talk
- 59:54about this, like, you don't complete each other in a relationship.
- 59:57It's not half and half, it's whole and whole coming together.
- 1:00:00That it's a full person and another full person filling
- 1:00:04each other up more and overflowing. It's not about I'm halffull,
- 1:00:07you're halful together, we're full.
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, like I'm trying to I've got a part
- 1:00:12missing of me that I'm trying to fulfill from that
- 1:00:15other person. I don't think that works because it's unnatural
- 1:00:20to feel like this person's going to fill a part
- 1:00:21of you, Like it has to be you being the
- 1:00:23whole person. Like you said, I just don't think we
- 1:00:26can expect another person to fill us or a gap
- 1:00:29in us. Yeah, And I think that that makes a
- 1:00:33big difference definitely of being apart from each other because
- 1:00:37and I also think that, yeah, I feel like I
- 1:00:40want to say this too, that every relationship is so
- 1:00:43different and I don't think that this would necessarily work
- 1:00:46for a lot of people or a few people, But
- 1:00:48I don't think it would necessarily work for everybody. And
- 1:00:51some people really need that time where they're with that
- 1:00:53person all the time or messaging that person all the time,
- 1:00:56and that's totally finely. But when I speak about our relationship,
- 1:01:00but I just always feel like I make it clear
- 1:01:02that this like this is just works for us. This
- 1:01:05works for us, and it's great, but I don't think
- 1:01:07that it necessarily works for everybody out there, and I
- 1:01:09don't think what work so everybody out there is going
- 1:01:11to work for us. And I think that it's a
- 1:01:14big that's a big deal because I think we look
- 1:01:16up to different couples or you see people in your life,
- 1:01:19your friends, and how they are in their relationship, and
- 1:01:22you kind of see things that you may want in
- 1:01:25a relationship and you think that that's what you want,
- 1:01:27but you never really know until you're in a relationship
- 1:01:30with somebody and you notice how you both complement each
- 1:01:33other because their qualities are completely different to your qualities.
- 1:01:37And so yeah, I just I just want to add
- 1:01:39that because it works for us, but I don't think
- 1:01:41it's necessarily going to work for yeah, everybody else.
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: And there's there's foundational things in relationship and there's flexible things.
- 1:01:48Foundational stuff is like respect, like appreciating each other's values,
- 1:01:52appreciating each other's goals, understanding each other's backwards like those
- 1:01:56are foundational things like that applies to every relationship under
- 1:01:59the sun, no matter which relationship you're in, including friendships, parents, everything.
- 1:02:03And then there's flexible stuff like this which isn't can't
- 1:02:07be forced into everyone, like how you should deal with
- 1:02:10being a part, how you should travel schedules, like all
- 1:02:13the kind of functional stuff that is not a thing
- 1:02:16that there's a right or wrong way. The foundational stuff,
- 1:02:19there is stuff that works, and there's stuff that doesn't.
- 1:02:21The flexible stuff is adaptable, is different for different people.
- 1:02:24Exactly what Yah amazing. So now I want to move
- 1:02:27into what I'm really excited for all of you to hear.
- 1:02:29I hope that gave you a big insight into our relationship,
- 1:02:34our life. We got married. I didn't mention this, but
- 1:02:37we got married in twenty sixteen, April twenty third. Yeah,
- 1:02:44that's good. And we've now been together for nearly three years.
- 1:02:50It's been incredible being married, and I'll come back to
- 1:02:53that as well, But I really want you to hear
- 1:02:55about my wife's incredible insights, especially because they're so related
- 1:02:59to hell right, mental, physical, personal well being. And she's
- 1:03:05definitely someone who lives and breeds what she shares. It's
- 1:03:10not just stuff that she talks about. I've actually probably
- 1:03:12never seen someone who's practicing what they preach as much,
- 1:03:16and so I'd love you to hear these insights. So
- 1:03:18I'm going to ask you a few questions, Readie. My
- 1:03:20first question for you is, how did you fall in
- 1:03:23love with food?
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: How did I finall love with food? I've always been
- 1:03:27a big food growing up. I was fairly overweight until
- 1:03:31the age of about fifty yeah, about fifteen. Probably started
- 1:03:37losing weight around the age of sixteen, But yeah, I
- 1:03:41grew up. I grew up always loving food, always loving
- 1:03:44carbs like I loved bread and all the things I
- 1:03:46probably shouldn't have. But my mum was actually a personal track.
- 1:03:48My mom was a fitness instructor, so she had like
- 1:03:51slick abs like growing up and was never really bothered
- 1:03:54by my way until I went to school, and yeah,
- 1:03:58long story short, I loved food from being younger. My
- 1:04:00mom is an incredible cook, My grandma's an incredible cook.
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: My sister's also an incredible cook.
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: Everywhere, like I've been surrounded by great cooks my whole life.
- 1:04:08And so my mom would always make beautiful food from
- 1:04:11around the world. Wherever we travel, she'd always bring that
- 1:04:14home with us and she'd make wonderful dishes, and so, yeah,
- 1:04:18I think being spoil by that being when I was younger.
- 1:04:21I grew up with a really unique taste in food
- 1:04:24because I'd experienced so much being growing up. And then
- 1:04:28my mom actually suggested I go into doing nutrition and
- 1:04:31dietetics at college or university, and I did that, and
- 1:04:36that's where my love for nutrition grow. Like I absolutely
- 1:04:39loved understanding the qualities of food and how they can
- 1:04:41affect our bodies. And I never really was into conventional medicine,
- 1:04:46like I never liked taking anything for my body. I
- 1:04:49really really believed in how natural things or foods and
- 1:04:52plants can really change the way that our body reacts
- 1:04:56to things or disease or your health conditions. And so
- 1:05:00that's where my love for nutrition grew and food and
- 1:05:04then I came across io Vada, and I actually don't
- 1:05:06know how it must have been. I don't know how
- 1:05:09I came across. I actually can't remember. I know my
- 1:05:11biggest exposure to it was when we moved to New York,
- 1:05:14but that was pretty much encompassed everything that I ever thought, like,
- 1:05:19everything I wanted to believe in. It had that in
- 1:05:22one science, and io Veda is actually Iro means life
- 1:05:26and Vada means knowledge. So it's literally the science of life,
- 1:05:29and it encompasses mind, body, and soul, and it really
- 1:05:32believes in the mind body connection. But it also completely
- 1:05:35believes and has solid science behind how food and the
- 1:05:41qualities of the different foods and how they can affect
- 1:05:43your body, and how they can be healing, and how
- 1:05:46they can be medicine or they can be toxins. The
- 1:05:48same food can be that for different people. And I
- 1:05:52love it because it's so individual and so personalized that
- 1:05:55our bodies are so different.
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: Your body will react to.
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: A tomato completely differently than mine would, and so I
- 1:06:01really appreciate that because every single body is so unique,
- 1:06:03like you can't have the same medicine for one person
- 1:06:06as you do for thousands and millions.
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: Of people out there. It just doesn't make sense.
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: Our genetics are different, our bodies makeup is different, our
- 1:06:12elements and our bodies are different, and so Iravada really
- 1:06:15encompasses all of that. And so that completely grew my
- 1:06:18love for food and healing of food. And yeah, I've
- 1:06:22always believed in you know, we always talk about how love,
- 1:06:26the mother's love, like mother's cooking is the best because
- 1:06:29of the love that she puts in it.
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: And in Irada really believes that.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: The consciousness and this is one of the things that
- 1:06:34I loved most about Aervada.
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: It talks about how the.
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: Consciousness that you cook in, or the consciousness that the
- 1:06:39food's been made in, actually gets infused into that person.
- 1:06:42And so however, that person's you know, everything that we're
- 1:06:46cooking with is living, like every fruit, every vegetables, it's
- 1:06:52a you know, it's a plant, it grows, it has
- 1:06:54living cells, and so it takes in our energy. And
- 1:06:57so whatever energy you're putting into that food while you're
- 1:06:59cooking it is what the other person is digesting and eating.
- 1:07:03Speaker 3: And so I thought that was such a beautiful.
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: Aspect of it, because you can change how a person
- 1:07:07feels through the energy that you're putting into even their food.
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: And so my love for food.
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: Even bigger after hearing that, and yeah, that's how I
- 1:07:18feel in.
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: Love with food.
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love that And it's been fun watching
- 1:07:21you for more in love with food and Irader tell
- 1:07:25the audience about like a few simple well being tips
- 1:07:29for the day. So whether it's food, or whether it's
- 1:07:33essential oils, or whether it's anything in your life that
- 1:07:35you add split them up. So tell me three simple
- 1:07:37tips that people can do daily with their food. Let's
- 1:07:40start with that or with food.
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: With food simple tips, I would say, have three meals
- 1:07:45a day, but your largest meal should be in the afternoon.
- 1:07:49Our body is in sync with nature, and so when
- 1:07:53the sun is as high as we believe we in Irada,
- 1:07:55they believe we have a digestifier in our stomach, and
- 1:07:58so when the sun is as high is when our
- 1:08:00digestion is the strongest, and so that's when we should
- 1:08:04It's when the nutrients are assimilated into our bodies a
- 1:08:07lot better, when the food is broken down so much
- 1:08:11faster and efficiently. And so if we're able to eat
- 1:08:14our largest meal in the afternoon, our heaviest meal in
- 1:08:16the afternoon, then that's actually a lot more beneficial to
- 1:08:19our body. And having our lightest meal in the evening,
- 1:08:21because this is the second tip now the number two,
- 1:08:25have your lightest meal in the after in the evening,
- 1:08:27because one, your quality of sleep will be so much better.
- 1:08:29Your body's not trying to work while you're sleeping. When
- 1:08:32you sleep, you want every part of your body to
- 1:08:34be relaxed and every part of your body to feel
- 1:08:37like it's getting the rest to rejuvenate and to replenish
- 1:08:40for the next day. And so if you're able to
- 1:08:44have a meal that's much lighter, like soups or even
- 1:08:47a smoothie, then your body's able to rest. And your
- 1:08:51food is a lot of food that's not digest it
- 1:08:53turns into toxins in your body.
- 1:08:55Speaker 3: And so if your body's trying.
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: To shut down and you're still putting lots of food
- 1:08:59into your body ends up turning into toxins, a lot,
- 1:09:02a lot, a lot more toxins are produced if you're
- 1:09:04digesting food overnight. And number three, drink lukewarm water and
- 1:09:08never drink ice water. Ice water or really really cold
- 1:09:12beverages actually dampens your digestifier, and so you kind of
- 1:09:18want to drink drinks which are either room temperature or warm.
- 1:09:21Warm drinks and hot drinks really stimulate a lot of
- 1:09:24things in your body, but really keep your body purified
- 1:09:28and help with toxins elimination in your body as well.
- 1:09:31Speaker 3: So those are my three tips.
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: That's great tips. Yeah, and that's so important because I
- 1:09:36feel so many people eat really late and then go
- 1:09:41to sleep straight away.
- 1:09:42Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: So it's like a lot of people eating at eight pm,
- 1:09:44nine pm and then going to see straight you're sleeping
- 1:09:48after midnight obviously, but you're actually saying we should eat
- 1:09:52less in the evening, yes, and then of course you
- 1:09:54believe in sleeping early, Yes, definitely. The point is, yeah, okay,
- 1:09:57that makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot
- 1:09:59lot of sense. Tell me some of the things that
- 1:10:02I wanted to talk to you about was around another
- 1:10:05few tips on well being and wellness that you think.
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: Would be useful to the well being in wellness. Okay.
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: So I definitely believe in meditating early in the morning
- 1:10:16because well throughout the day there are different energies that
- 1:10:20can affect you, and so in the morning, when before
- 1:10:23the ideally before the sun rises, But before the sun
- 1:10:26rises is when you've still got the calming effect of
- 1:10:28the moon, and so your mind is a lot more rested.
- 1:10:31Your mind is fresh because you've just woken up, but
- 1:10:34also you haven't been affected by the like the world
- 1:10:37is still asleep, like a lot of people are still asleep,
- 1:10:39and so you don't have that much energy around you,
- 1:10:41and so I feel if your mind is calmer and
- 1:10:45the sun hasn't risen, sun actually brings about the energy
- 1:10:47of doing and going and get like getting things done.
- 1:10:50Whereas before the sun rises, if you're able to meditate,
- 1:10:53then you actually will get a deeper, more focus meditation
- 1:10:58in the morning. Another lifestyle tip I'd give is using
- 1:11:02a tongue scraper, like that is so important in Western
- 1:11:06In Western culture, it's not normal to use a tongue scrape.
- 1:11:09I don't know anyone's seen it, but it's literally so simple.
- 1:11:12It's like a copper or a metal rod type thing
- 1:11:17which has h like a U shape that you can
- 1:11:20basically you scrape off all the It sounds scrace, but
- 1:11:23you scrape off all the toxins off your tongue. In
- 1:11:27the morning and in the evening, you can use it
- 1:11:28when you brush your teeth and actually the top if
- 1:11:33you end up swallowing those toxins, that can be the
- 1:11:34beginning of like toxin, like the toxic toxins.
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: Building up in your body.
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: And so using a tongue scraper is an iobatic must,
- 1:11:41Like you have to use a tongue scraper. You can
- 1:11:44get it off Amazon, you can get it everywhere. It's
- 1:11:45just a really simple thing to avoid toxins building up
- 1:11:48in your body.
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: And did you say one.
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: More Yeah, one more health tip I would or lifestyle tip.
- 1:11:55I would recommend sleeping early. You know, there's so much
- 1:11:59normal sign behind it, but even just to get a
- 1:12:03good amount of sleep before twelve o'clock. I mean, I've
- 1:12:06read so much about it, but it really does rejuvenate you.
- 1:12:09The quality of sleep that you get is so different
- 1:12:12compared to sleeping really late and doing on a regular basis.
- 1:12:15It reduces your immune system. It makes you really groggy
- 1:12:20in the morning. I find that I really and if
- 1:12:22I have too many late nights for a long period
- 1:12:24of time, it really affects my immunity. Like I know
- 1:12:27I'm going to get on well or I'm going to
- 1:12:28catch a cold, and so Sleeping early is also if
- 1:12:31you can. There are lots of people who can't because
- 1:12:33of jobs. But if you can sleep early, eat in
- 1:12:35the afternoon, wake up early, that's like the ideal situation.
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Yeah. No, really practical tips, I
- 1:12:41think those are things that anyone and everyone can be incorporate. Yeah,
- 1:12:45I love those because they're just so universal. It's not
- 1:12:48going to take someone a huge life stole. Change is
- 1:12:50not going to cost anything, Like, it's totally free to
- 1:12:53do all of these things. You don't have to learn
- 1:12:55a lot, like there's nothing to research, you know, and
- 1:12:58I know that you have because you are a dietitian
- 1:13:01and a nutritionist by qualification and by going to university, etc.
- 1:13:05So I do know that everything that you speak about
- 1:13:08is highly researched and focused. But I love how good
- 1:13:10you are at making it so simple and so easy
- 1:13:13to understand. And obviously, if you want more tips, etc.
- 1:13:15You can go follow Rady after this and find out
- 1:13:18more about what she's posting. Were regularly. I wanted to
- 1:13:21tell me about why did health become so important to you?
- 1:13:23Because I know this for a fact that I really
- 1:13:25always focused on my mental health and my mind and
- 1:13:28for a long time. Mastering my mind was like one
- 1:13:31of my biggest focuses, and that's where I spent a
- 1:13:35lot of my life. And when I married rather, she
- 1:13:38was very much focused not only on the mind, but
- 1:13:40on the body more. And when I say body, I
- 1:13:43don't just mean in looking esthetically good, I mean feeling good,
- 1:13:47being active, being genuinely healthy, beyond size or shape or
- 1:13:51any of that stuff. And that's really helped me in
- 1:13:54my personal life. I know for a fact that I
- 1:13:56eat better, I exercise more, I take care of myself
- 1:13:59physically because of you. And so I want you to
- 1:14:01tell me why you started to find health so important,
- 1:14:05and then I want you to tell me a bit
- 1:14:06about your perspective on body shape, size and our addiction
- 1:14:10to looking a certain way as opposed to feeling a
- 1:14:12certain way.
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: Health became a really important part of my life because, yeah,
- 1:14:17I grew up I mentioned I grew up fairly overweight,
- 1:14:21and at the beginning it was a lot more to
- 1:14:23do with changing the shape of my body.
- 1:14:25Speaker 3: I really wanted to lose weight, and at that time
- 1:14:31I knew I.
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: Didn't want to do anything to extreme like I because
- 1:14:35I did my nutrition degree, I understood, and I'd heard
- 1:14:37a lot about how yo yo dieting can really affect
- 1:14:40your metabolism, and so for me, I didn't want to
- 1:14:43do the extremes of like eating barely anything to then
- 1:14:46get trying to get back to a normal diet, which
- 1:14:48I know I've seen people that they've done that and
- 1:14:51it ends up making you put on even more way afterwards,
- 1:14:53and how to lose weight after that. So I really
- 1:14:55wanted a healthy, sustainable way of doing that. And so
- 1:14:59I mean, at the beginning, it was at college, and
- 1:15:00it was I mean a university, and I started just
- 1:15:03cooking for me and my friends a lot at university
- 1:15:06because I lived out, and yeah, it was it was,
- 1:15:09to be honest, I kind of just fell into it.
- 1:15:11Through through the nutrition degree, I ended up learning a
- 1:15:13lot more about it. So I started cooking a lot
- 1:15:15more vegetables, and I mean, I grew up vegetarian, and
- 1:15:19so my diet was also predominantly based on lentils and
- 1:15:24pulses and vegetables and you know, all the Indian spices
- 1:15:29and flavors, and so yeah, that's where my health this
- 1:15:34beginning of my health journey started was to lose weight
- 1:15:37and then like I said, when I came into Iravada
- 1:15:40and I started understanding that it just grew my passion
- 1:15:42for it a lot more. But this the inspiration for
- 1:15:46it was definitely through through weight loss, but I knew
- 1:15:48I didn't want to do it in an unhealthy way.
- 1:15:51And body image, yeah, I think that's something growing up,
- 1:15:56I always always thought that that to be healthy, a
- 1:16:00good image of health was my image of my own
- 1:16:03health was based on other people's body shape or body
- 1:16:06size and looking around it everybody around me. I always
- 1:16:10used to think that, okay, for me to be healthy,
- 1:16:12I needed to be slim, like I needed to be
- 1:16:14very skinny. And as I've grown up and I've been
- 1:16:18through my ups and downs with my way and with
- 1:16:21my journey of health, I really realized that actually, I've
- 1:16:25got to this point and when I feel the best,
- 1:16:27like my version of health is when my organs feel
- 1:16:31like they're working, and it's best when my skin feels incredible,
- 1:16:33when my digestion feels great, when my hair, my nails,
- 1:16:38you know, all the indicators that I feel represent good
- 1:16:42health that I've learned as good health when those things
- 1:16:44are happening, and also when my mind feels good, Like
- 1:16:46when do I feel at my most comfortable? Is it
- 1:16:49when I have is it when I'm a specific body shape,
- 1:16:53or is it when I'm working out and I feel
- 1:16:54great about it? Or am I struggling to get myself
- 1:16:57to the gym because of the goal that I have,
- 1:17:00Like I feel fine. If my goal is to lose weight,
- 1:17:03then for me, it's been really difficult to sustain it.
- 1:17:05And because I want to eat, like I really enjoy eating.
- 1:17:08I really enjoy eating different foods and having a great
- 1:17:11balance in life. And so for me, it became more
- 1:17:15about how I feel and how my whole body feels
- 1:17:18in different ways rather than it being an indication of
- 1:17:21different body sizes and body shape. And I mean, I
- 1:17:24love getting into it like I love I love working out,
- 1:17:26and it's part of my day, part of my routine
- 1:17:28on a daily basis. And I don't believe that either
- 1:17:31end of the weight spectrum is healthy. There are health
- 1:17:33conditions associated to both. But I have realized that body
- 1:17:37trends change all the time, Like you know, there's gonna
- 1:17:40be a different body shape that's in fashion next week
- 1:17:43and the week after that, and the month after that
- 1:17:44and the year after that.
- 1:17:46Speaker 3: But if I am constantly.
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: Trying to change my shape according to that, I'm not
- 1:17:50sure that that's what health means. Like, there's so much
- 1:17:52more to what being healthy means than just body shape
- 1:17:55and body size, And so yeah, I think that that's
- 1:17:59what it means to me. I mean, I've struggled with
- 1:18:01it growing up, but at the moment now, after being
- 1:18:05through so much on that journey, I really feel like
- 1:18:07that's what health means to me, and that's where I
- 1:18:09feel the happiest when I'm thinking about health in that way.
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that answer. It's so true. I grew
- 1:18:14up because I grew up overweight as well. When I
- 1:18:18lost weight for the first time, I believe that being
- 1:18:22skinny or being slim was health. And then when I
- 1:18:26realized that it definitely wasn't because I went through my
- 1:18:29own health challenges, I was just like, oh wow, Like,
- 1:18:32health doesn't mean just not eating fatty foods, which is
- 1:18:35really as basic and simplistic as my knowledge was for
- 1:18:38so long. And so hearing you say that, obviously, having
- 1:18:40you coach me in my life every day is amazing.
- 1:18:43I really value it. It's changed my life for sure,
- 1:18:45in terms of how I feel and what I eat
- 1:18:47and what I do and how I use my time.
- 1:18:49So thank you so much, and definitely if you follow
- 1:18:52Rady afterwards, you'll find so many great insights and more
- 1:18:55expert thoughts and practices that I think are genuine and practice.
- 1:18:59You know, they're practical for all of us. And that's
- 1:19:02what I love about them, that what she's saying works
- 1:19:04for everyone, the universal and it's not about getting a
- 1:19:07specific goal externally. It's about getting a specific goal internally.
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: And I don't think there's anything I think it's incredible
- 1:19:13if someone wants to change that, Like I think it's
- 1:19:16incredible if someone has a goal of what they want
- 1:19:17their body to be sure, But all I want trying
- 1:19:19to say is that I don't think just body shape
- 1:19:22is an indication of health, which I feel is is
- 1:19:25seen as health in a lot in a lot of ways,
- 1:19:27like a lot of fitness pages or a lot of
- 1:19:29a lot of exercise pages, they show most of the
- 1:19:33body shapes are similar.
- 1:19:34Speaker 3: They are they are in a.
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: Specific in a specific form, in a specific shape, And
- 1:19:38I just think it's incredible how beautifully unique everybody's body is.
- 1:19:42And it's like that is the beauty of the world.
- 1:19:44That everybody is so beautiful, everyone is so unique in
- 1:19:46their own way that why should everybody be aspiring for
- 1:19:50the same body shape? Why can't we all have our
- 1:19:52own individual shape and that be the beauty of it.
- 1:19:55Because Yeah, like trends change, like face trends change, body
- 1:19:59trends change.
- 1:20:01Speaker 3: The way we speak.
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: Changes, our diety like you know, our slang changes constantly.
- 1:20:06I just think everything's changing so much. So if we
- 1:20:07try and just focus on who we want to be
- 1:20:10and change according to our own motivation rather than other
- 1:20:14people's view or how we see other people, that will
- 1:20:17make a big difference to our mental state as well,
- 1:20:20which is the journey I'm still going on.
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: Guys, thank you.
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: So much for watching that video. If you enjoyed it,
- 1:20:26here's another one I think you'll love. If you are
- 1:20:29getting crazy nervous on a date, you're already that's already
- 1:20:36a reflection of the fact that you've valued the wrong things.