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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, January 17 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, January seventeen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: now that guy who comes to you tariff free j P. Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: get no tariffs here, no MP which I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: What's the conversation about Terris for? I mean, there's got
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  Speaker 1: to be some type of very political Joe went deep
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  Speaker 1: in the politics there. Okay, welcome in. This is Jaguar's
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour, our first one hour edition of the off season.
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick. Jeff Logaman is in studio. Welcome from
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  Speaker 1: the deer Stand refreshed. Yes you are, and Tony was
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  Speaker 1: selling is in New York City. Hi, Tony, I am
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  Speaker 1: not in the deer Stand, that's for sure. How you
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  Speaker 1: wish you were? Well? Possibly, yes, although I like New
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  Speaker 1: York City. I know it's uh, you're Actually the funny
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  Speaker 1: thing about you blogs is you're you know of through
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  Speaker 1: outdoors man. Absolutely, you know, hunt, fish, eat what you kill,
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  Speaker 1: grow what you know, eat all that stupid stuff you
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  Speaker 1: like to do. But you are there's a piece of
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  Speaker 1: New Yorker in you because you're up here and I
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  Speaker 1: know you like New York. I'll be there. I'll be
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  Speaker 1: there next weekend. Yeah, I know you like New York.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I gotta te gotta take my annual trip.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be there next weekend and be hitting some of
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  Speaker 1: them are our favorite places to go and dine. Which
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  Speaker 1: is the anti hunting place. This is not very big
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  Speaker 1: on hunting and fishing. It's not at home. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I got I got that at home all
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  Speaker 1: the time. You know, things that we can dine on
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  Speaker 1: that you know, we harvest or grow, harvest the deer
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  Speaker 1: and then growing in the garden and JP, when's the
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  Speaker 1: last time you ate something you harvest? It's been a while. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, a matter of fact, I had I had
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  Speaker 1: a venison sausage sandwich on the way here that you harvested. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: fantastic natural that way, nature, That was good. Here's what
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  Speaker 1: we're getting to on the program today. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: a new hires for this Jaguars coaching staff. Will break
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  Speaker 1: him all down coming up, including the offensive coordinator. Well
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  Speaker 1: what now after that? What's coming up for this Jaguars team?
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  Speaker 1: And we'll pick the a f C n NFC championship
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  Speaker 1: games coming up this Sunday. The offensive coordinator hired John D. Filippo,
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  Speaker 1: a younger guy got around forty years old or so.
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  Speaker 1: He's been around the league for a bit quarterbacks coach
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  Speaker 1: for a number of years a few different places, including
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  Speaker 1: with the Eagles when they won the Super Bowl, the Vikings,
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  Speaker 1: and the Browns. He's been an offensive coordinator those two stops.
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  Speaker 1: What are you making a hire here, guys, Filippo? Uh, Well,
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  Speaker 1: all star Tony, and I figured that it would be
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  Speaker 1: a guy like this, or an older, more established coach
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  Speaker 1: that really is not looking to prove anything that would
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  Speaker 1: come in here and take the reins as the offensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator position, because I mean, the reality is, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that this job was that attractive to a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. And so when you have an offense that
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  Speaker 1: needs weapons, that doesn't have a quarterback, that is going
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  Speaker 1: to be looking for a quarterback possibly, then your offensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator I think is probably kind of cut from the
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  Speaker 1: mold that he has something to prove, or he has
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  Speaker 1: some type of blemish on his record. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying that he's not a good coach or anything like that,
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  Speaker 1: but I think that this guy is a candidate that
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  Speaker 1: needs to prove something because he was fired last year
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  Speaker 1: by Mike Zimmer. The reports are is that there were
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  Speaker 1: times that he defied what Mike Zimmer wanted as a
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  Speaker 1: head coach. Uh, So, I look, I think he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: He's a bright young mind that was in high demand
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  Speaker 1: last year and had opportunities to be a head coach.
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  Speaker 1: So I hope he does a great job. And I hope,
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  Speaker 1: I hope because the strength of his resume supposedly is
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  Speaker 1: evaluating and working with quarterbacks. That's what this team needs
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  Speaker 1: most importantly, first off, someone that can look at quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: and tell whether they're good or not. Well, so you're
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  Speaker 1: saying he's a quarterback whisper I mean that's what people
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  Speaker 1: are saying. I don't know if I'm just saying that
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  Speaker 1: he's worked with quarterbacks before, and did he have input
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  Speaker 1: into the Philadelphia Eagles drafting Carson Wentz. I don't know that, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: You said you're not buying that. Why I'm not buying
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  Speaker 1: he's a quarterback whisperer, I mean, because I get to
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  Speaker 1: see one. I guess. I mean, not that you can't
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  Speaker 1: help with develop quarterbacks, but I guess show me the
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  Speaker 1: guy who's percent of picking quarterbacks and being right about it,
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  Speaker 1: and that'd be a first for me. Maybe he's maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's him. I think more importantly than him being a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback whisper for me is um, what does he you know,
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  Speaker 1: what is he gonna do? What is his philosophy? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you look at Minnesota last year, Um, and he had
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  Speaker 1: a K Cousins, good quarterback, UM, d Alvin Cook good
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  Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, but I mean still you watch him
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  Speaker 1: played well, feeling, good player, Rudolph Rudolph tight end, good player.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they had some talent and I think they
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  Speaker 1: averaged like eighteen nineteen points a game or something, not
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  Speaker 1: very what. They didn't average very much, but I think
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  Speaker 1: it was like low twenties. But it wasn't it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't very high. It was you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of bottom half of the league. That's right, That's
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  Speaker 1: my point, Um, And so that's concerning to me a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Now, that doesn't mean, by the way, he
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  Speaker 1: can't coach. I don't think Mike Zimmer is probably the
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  Speaker 1: easiest guy to be the offensive cord area for I mean,
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  Speaker 1: North Turner quit the season because of dealing with him
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  Speaker 1: as the head coach was very difficult. And so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not putting this all on Filippo. And but you go
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  Speaker 1: back a year, UM, and he was a guy that
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  Speaker 1: was a hot candidate. Like Jeff said, he actually interviewed
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  Speaker 1: for some head coaching jobs, didn't get any, but he was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, coming off the Super Bowl when Philadelphia. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he was the hot guy, one of the hot guys.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm being really interested to see what we get here, UM,
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  Speaker 1: and what what kind of philosophy UM he comes in with,
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  Speaker 1: because Jeff, I don't know about you. If I was
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  Speaker 1: off as a coordinator, I'm not sure what my philosophy
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  Speaker 1: is because I don't know what I can count on offensively,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who my quarterback is. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: a go to receiver. I have a backfield that we
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  Speaker 1: fired the running back coach, and then in the reports
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  Speaker 1: are the room was in disarray, and there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of questions around the top five pick in Leonard for that.
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  Speaker 1: And I have an offensive line that was beat to
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  Speaker 1: hell and we fired that coach as well. I mean
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  Speaker 1: there's so many questions. I think De Filippo has a
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  Speaker 1: huge kill the climb. If he makes it work, if
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  Speaker 1: he makes coach, he will be a hot candidate, sure,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean this is one of those one of
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  Speaker 1: those projects to where look, if you fail, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: people will say they didn't have a quarterback. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what could he do? So it's not necessarily a risky
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  Speaker 1: proposition for him, but if he makes it work, he's
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  Speaker 1: he's a hero. I don't say hero, and he's a
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  Speaker 1: he's head coaching Canaida. But it builds his resume. Are
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  Speaker 1: we gonna came around on our shoulders if he does
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  Speaker 1: it as a hero, like a parade and confetti and parade, right,
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  Speaker 1: JP can probably carry him on the shoulder a little bit. Yeah, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would say I can't lift my shoulders, about my
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  Speaker 1: about my head. So I'm not sure how I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get him up on my should two bad hips, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. You mentioned quarterbacks there. Which way
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  Speaker 1: will the Jaguars go at that position? Is now a question?
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  Speaker 1: With the new offensive coordinator. Dug Maron yesterday explained De
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  Speaker 1: Filippo's history with a variety of signal callers. I say
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. You know, you want someone that that
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  Speaker 1: a first of all, wants to you know, what did
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  Speaker 1: come into play was you know someone that um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: has ability, has been around veteran quarterbacks has been around
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  Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks, has been around a quarterback that came up
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  Speaker 1: and went on to do things well, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: you know when you look at John you know he
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  Speaker 1: had Wentz, there was Folds as the quarterback coach. You know,
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  Speaker 1: then you have someone like Cousins that comes along, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr. So there was a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 1: good uh good variety. You know, I'm saying that the
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  Speaker 1: types of players that he's had and the types of
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  Speaker 1: players that he looked at. So for him, along with
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  Speaker 1: Scott milanovic Um, you know, obviously you feel good about
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  Speaker 1: you know, the evaluation coming from the coaching side on
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  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. So that's uh, that kind of tells you.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's important what he said right there. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: And he said that the evaluation from the coaches side,
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  Speaker 1: because there's different sides when you talk you talk about
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  Speaker 1: evaluation of the quarterback, you're didn't we're not talking about
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  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that are on the roster right now, but
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  Speaker 1: we're also talking about quarterbacks. But Jeff, I think you
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  Speaker 1: could have infer about the quarterbacks on the roster too. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: it's an all inclusive to have the coaches feel that's
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  Speaker 1: all inclusive. It's all inclusive, and and I thought that
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  Speaker 1: I think it was kind of indirectly. I thought Doug
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  Speaker 1: Moron kind of made it very clear that there will
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  Speaker 1: be a new quarterback this year. I mean, no, I know,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean without coming out. I know, you're in
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  Speaker 1: the deer stand last week, but I think we established
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  Speaker 1: that without actually saying coming out and saying Blake Bortles
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  Speaker 1: is not going to be our quarterback next year. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he essentially said it, you know, without saying it. At least,
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  Speaker 1: that's the the inference that I gained from watching the press.
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  Speaker 1: CoV that's fair. Yeah, it's got one of its back
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  Speaker 1: as a quarterbacks coach, I'd be fine. Fine. I Mean,
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  Speaker 1: the reality is is good, good players make good coaches.
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  Speaker 1: You know, get better players in here, and all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, everybody's a great coach. And that's been improve
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  Speaker 1: In fact. I mean, there are some coaches that seem
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  Speaker 1: to transcend the talent, but those are few and far between.
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  Speaker 1: It's a player driven business, and coaches or geniuses when
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  Speaker 1: they get great players to work with and then they
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  Speaker 1: can get the most out of those great players. But
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  Speaker 1: it's got in my opinion, it starts with with getting
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  Speaker 1: the players that have an opportunity of being good. And
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  Speaker 1: that's first and foremost players like Jimmy's and Joe's, right not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, Tony. What's your what do
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  Speaker 1: you have? You have a term for it? Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I believe that that's the trick. Think coaches are important,
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  Speaker 1: don't be wrong. I think good coaching. It mattership, how
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  Speaker 1: you handle a room, motivating guys. I mean, all those
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  Speaker 1: things matter, and you hope you hope it matters in
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  Speaker 1: the running backs room. What the hiring of Terry Robiscuit.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it is all about, right there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And I know Terry. I was in Houston
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  Speaker 1: with Terry very highly respected. He is, uh, he'll command
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  Speaker 1: respect and I think he'll be do a good job.
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  Speaker 1: The I guess. I always look at it this way.
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  Speaker 1: JP is uh. A good coach can take a good
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  Speaker 1: player and help him become great. But a good coach
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  Speaker 1: is not going to take a bad player and make
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  Speaker 1: him good. Um. You have to have talent because everybody, no,
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  Speaker 1: not everyone does. That's the problem. There's some guys who
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  Speaker 1: have more talent than others, and there's some guys who
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  Speaker 1: just shouldn't be playing um. But my point is good
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  Speaker 1: coaches can take you know, good players that help them
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  Speaker 1: become great or you know, help them take the next
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  Speaker 1: step in and teach technique in mindset and strategy and
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  Speaker 1: everything else and help them go to the next level.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, you're all it's hard to make lemonade
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  Speaker 1: out of limits. And let me let me say this,
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  Speaker 1: And I know we're gonna talk more about Arry Robiskuy
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  Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette, but you know, as we're looking at pictures
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  Speaker 1: of Terry Rubisky right now, this is this is Leonard
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  Speaker 1: Fournett's last coach in Jacksonville. In my opinion, I mean
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  Speaker 1: he Leonard Fournette either makes this work with Terry Rubiski
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  Speaker 1: or the next step is Leonard Fournette's not here. There's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna be another firing of a coach to try
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  Speaker 1: to work with Leonard Fournette. This is it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Terry Robiski is was brought in here too to mentor
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  Speaker 1: coach Leonard Fournette and to make him a team guy
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  Speaker 1: or to help make him a team guy. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say make him a team guy. And if
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't work with Terry Rubisky. Then that means it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work, and it means that Leonard Fournette will be
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  Speaker 1: out of here. Let's come back. We'll double a little
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  Speaker 1: after the announcement of the coaching staff foreteen Jaguars Happy
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  Speaker 1: Hour continues. J P. Shadwick, Jeff Logerman, Tony was selly
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: interesting thoughts there and how the process goes trying to
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: chase coaches down and well, you have the staff done,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: it seemed like, and then the offensive coordinator was kind
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: of the cherry at the end of it there, and
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: all the other assistants were kind of just kind of
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: placed in. But Doug was doing the hiring of that,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: and you know some if you would think about it
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: going in, you think, okay, offensive corner. Maybe he maybe
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: he hires the guys underneath it, but that's not how
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it goes. A lot of I mean a lot of
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinators. They have certain guys that they want to
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: work with that they for us that helps implement their system.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: And uh, I think that's why at the very beginning
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I said that the one who took this job or
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: was going to be taking this job, was somebody that
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: had something to prove, that did not have the leverage
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: to ask for certain things because somebody were to take
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: this job and reported I don't know if this is
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: true or not that Gary Kubiak wanted to bring us
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: son along for a job which he got in Minnesota.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he was going to be able
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to get that in Denver or anywhere else, because that's
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: nepotism and some organizations don't agree with that. So, but
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: if you're in high demand, or if you're in demand enough,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: you can demand those type of things. And John D.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Felippo is obviously a little bit tarnished after last year,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: and uh, he was looking for a job and an
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of regain his footing, so to speak.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: So no, I mean that doesn't surprise me that that
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: it was everything was done around here, because you don't
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: what if you're Doug Marone, You're trying to get the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: best of the best. You can't wait. Yeah, You're not
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: gonna wait and and find out one part of the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: recipe based on another part, because if you do, then
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you're gonna miss out on opportunity. Right. We were touching
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: on the running back room a moment Ago Leonard for that.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Terry Robiski is the running backs coach, and Doug Marone
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: discussed a meeting that he had with the Jaguars running
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: back Leonard for that this week and what Robiski can
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: bring to that room. You know, we had a good meeting.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna speak for Lena, but you know
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: when when he left that meeting, I think he's in
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a really good place. Um. So that's a that's encouraging
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm excited about that. And I think that you
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: know the one thing, you know, sometimes you meet people
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: in life that have a special quality. Um, they're able
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to relate to people all different types of people. They're
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: able to communicate, They're able to establish a trust, establish
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: a relationship, and then next thing, you know, that person
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: is always getting the most out of people. You know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I would I would lie to say, hey, there's times
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I've been able to do that and the times i
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: haven't been. I think Terry is a person that has
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: been able to do that and shown that, you know
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: through his whole career of over probably forty years, you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: in this league. So um, he's the He's the best
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: guy I know. You know that that that has that
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: that type of ability. He's been a coach in the NFL.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Terry Robiski has since the early eighties, working his way
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: through a number of different teams, a number of different positions,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: wide receivers coach, most notably though he was the offensive
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: coordinator in Tennessee for a couple of years, but now
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: into the running backs room. But the experience working with
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: players not only on the field but off the field
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: is what really sold Doug Moron here. What do you think, Tony? Um, Yeah,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: that's that's great. I mean, I hope it works. I mean,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I think Terry Robiski is a very good coach. He
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: will he will um command respect and will do it
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: in a way that was relatable. He's been able to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: do it his whole career. I agree with Doug in
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that sense. He is a once you get to know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: it will make complete sense. M having spent time around him. Uh,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you know the question is you know, it's you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: but it's at the end of the day, it's still
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Leonard's court. Um. It's Leonard has to do the work.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Leonard has to do what's necessary to get ready to play.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Leonard has to be in shape, Leonard has to you know,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: take care of himself and and and you know, get
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: to where he's supposed to be and everything else. So, yes,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Terry will be a great I love the hire. I
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: think it's a it's a great higher um, but I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: still put the onus on Leonard M. Tony let me
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: add to that too, because Terry rubiskis for the most
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: part it's been a wide receiver's coach, even though he
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: played the running back position and in Buffalo was he
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: not a wide receiver's coach in Buffalo? He was, Okay,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: who's the wide receiver in Buffalo? That was not a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: happy camper. But Benjamin Benjamin, So I think that shows
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: because they eventually cut him and then Kansas City picked
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: him up. That it goes to show what Tony's talking
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: about here and that it's just because Terry Rubinski is
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: hired doesn't solve any issues or problems and make everything
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: hunky Dorry. It's up to Leonard Fournette to make this
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: work because if if he was Terry Rubinsky was the magician,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: then why didn't he able to wasn't he able to
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: get Calvin Benjamin to be a happy, productive, committed player
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: in Buffalo Point. It's not a magic elixiral No, no,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: it's not. And I actually want to go back to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: something that I think is interesting that the that b
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Felippo was not hired first and let him fill out
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: his staff based on his relationship ships. This was built
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: on Doug's relationships um with. I think it's always interesting.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying one's right and the other's wrong by
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination, but I I do
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: think and especially understanding how you watch how an offense
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and defensive unit work. You know, the head coach is
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: overseeing those two units. Now, he might have an emphasis
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: that he spends more time with because that's what he's
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: more comfortable with and be involved more. And maybe that's
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: gonna be the offense and that's why Doug did it
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: that way. But typically it's it's the coordinator's job to
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: manage that staff and and and communicate to the staff
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: what he wants to teach and what the concepts and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: what the scheme and how he wants to do it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And that's why I think it's so important on both
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: sides of the ball um that you have people who
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: believe in your system. And frankly, I'm not so sure
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: that's not why some of the guys where assistance are
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: no longer here. Yeah, if they don't fit into that
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: scheme or don't agree with it or something happens, then
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: guess what. Yeah, And so I just think that's interesting that,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you know, if you look at the offense side of
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the ball that and maybe it was they couldn't get
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the um O C job or uh you know Deefe,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: but wrapped up in time to let him go do
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the rest, and they're afraid they're gonna miss people. That's valid,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I can understand that. I just find it interesting that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: in the communication that we heard like yesterday and the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: press conference and everything else. A lot was made and
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Doug said it, it's about he wants people that he
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: has a relationship with and that he knows. That's right.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna bring in somebody just out of the blue.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: He wants a little which is which is that's it's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that's one philosophy another flow, and there's more than one
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: way to get it done. The other philosophy is just
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: get your cordinators in there who you're comfortable with and
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: let them build their their teams out to this. In
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the offensive line coach higher is somebody that Doug bron knows.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: George Warhop the offensive coordinator for the London Monarchs in
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the early nineties when Doug Marone was an offensive lineman
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: in the World League of American Football. It's a long
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: time ago, and he's been an offensive line coach in
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the league for a while now. The last stop for
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: him though, the last few years in Tampa Bay Tony.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: What do you make of George Warhop as an offensive
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: line coach? You know, I'm not gonna dig in too
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: much because I haven't spent a lot of time with George.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Um just watched from a distance. Um, I think he
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you know, He's obviously a very respected coach. He's been
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: around a long time. I thought he did a good job,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: especially the last couple of years with that offensive line,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: uh for the for Tampa Bay Um and so he
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I remember watching him coach. Was it two
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: years ago when the Bucks came up here and watching
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: him coach, I thought, I was I was impressed with
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the style and you know how he communicated kind of
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: how he got things done. But I don't know enough
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to day, you know, I don't know exactly if what
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: he's in it teaches he more of a gap guys,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: he more of his own guy, which I always go back,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: that's more of the you know, the coordinator dictates that
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you know what kind of what's their base scheme. Will
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: be interested to see. But he's been around a long time.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: He's coached some really good players, and I thought he
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: did a good job with the two tackles in Tampa.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I thought I saw improvement as we watched them over
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the preseasons each year kind of what they did. It'll
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: be it'll be interesting to see the impact that he
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: can have and and the example that I looked to
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: or or want to see the benefit from this Cam
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Robinson left tackle in his footwork because flat Pat Flattery
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: was not able to change them with Cam Robinson. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: so can George warhop be the one that gets Cam
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: robinson footwork cleaned up. We'll see seventh different team. He's
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: been an offensive line coach for in the NFL, by
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the way, around for a long time. Let let me
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: say this. I mean a lot of people would look
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: at home. He's been with seven teams. We must not
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: be very good coach because he's getting fired. I mean,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: look coaches in the NFL that when you sign up
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: to do that job, it says, by the way, you
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: will be fired plenty of times and we'll have to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: change teams many times. Well, there's plenty of good coaches
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League that have been fired more
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: than George Warhock. We'll come back. We're a quick, perfect
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: example of that. R J. P Hey. Well, as you
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: see the Indianapolis fired their offensive line coach the amazing right,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: what the hell is that? I mean, we have a
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: conversation this year about how good that Googs is is
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: an offensive line coach and how much they improved in
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: in the night and day difference of that group but
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: it's not just because of Quentin. Nelson obviously helped, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: all of them played so much better, and he had
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: a rookie play played well. Yeah, basically, if you read
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the comments that basically Frank Reich said he knew in
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: January he was gonna make a change because if you remember,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Googyama was brought in by when they thought Josh Daniels
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: was going to be the coach, that's who. Just Daniels
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: wanted his offensive line coach, so the Colts hired him
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: before anyone else could the defensive coordinator. But he didn't
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: fire him. Yeah, but you know, but you know, but
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: think about this, what kind of what side of the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: ball is Frank right? Coach on offense? That's his side
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: of the ball. He's got a buddy. That's exactly right
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to your point. Good coaches get fired all the time
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: this week, and some bad coaches don't get fired enough,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and bad coaches keep in. Bad coaches keep jobs and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: get recycled because of the buddies. There's no doubt. Let's
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: come back. We'll go to the defensive side. Some changes
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: on the coaching staff with the Jaguars will flip it around.
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  Speaker 1: I think for one year, you know, I think that
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  Speaker 1: John d Flippa went on, you know, um so again,
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  Speaker 1: not not. I don't the imitation that I heard that
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  Speaker 1: you were trying to do with me last last week
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  Speaker 1: I heard was it down? It was terrible? Yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like, Yeah, it's bad. I don't know what to do.
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  Speaker 1: I can't say anything. Do you believe? What do you
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  Speaker 1: think about what Duck said? Not that you believe him?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think you know that that Tom was hands
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  Speaker 1: off in the process. Yeah, I believe only because I
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  Speaker 1: believe because he's got done fire and a couple of
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  Speaker 1: Tom's guys just recently. Yeah, I would, But that's why
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna go to I don't think that was
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  Speaker 1: the case initially. I think Tom had it had I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say a lot of influence, but it
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  Speaker 1: certainly had some input into the into the first staff.
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  Speaker 1: And now when you look at Flats and Perry Fuel
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: were two of Coughlan's who was biggerger guy he had
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  Speaker 1: when he was in New York, and then Doug made
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  Speaker 1: the decision to let him go. Was there anybody else
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  Speaker 1: from Coughlin staff that was let go? Amarrion Hobby was
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  Speaker 1: not a part of coughlan staff, and then Tyrone Wheatley.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was more Doug staff back in Buffalo. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was more Dougs connection. Who knows defensive changes for
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: this team? He mentioned Tim. That is Tim Walton, who
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: is now the secondary cornerbacks coach. They split up the
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: secondary coaching duties here. Tim Walton gets the cornerbacks. Joe Dana,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: who was here before, is the assistant secondary coach and
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: he's done to the secondary coach and safety's coach as well.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: So Walton gets the corners, Danna gets the safety. Joe
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Dane has done a good job. Tim Walton. I don't
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: know much about him other than he's got some of
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the best talent in the league to work with. When
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: you've got Jalen Ramsey and a j boy, what a
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: great job to have. But I think it's a challenging
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: job because I think a lot of personality. Because I
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: think that Jalen Ramsey needs to be challenged. I think
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: both mentally and physically. Um, the challenges to make him
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: better than what he thinks he can become. Because I
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: think that that's true no matter how great the player is. Um,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: you don't walk in the door and say, Okay, we're
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: just gonna be happy and satisfied with Jenalen Ramsey the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: way he's been. I mean, why not challenge him to
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: reach the height that he didn't think he'd be able
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: to obtain. That's what coaching is all about. Yeah, so Jef,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: let me ask you. Let me ask you guys a
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: question because you know, so Tim Waldon is going to
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: be corners, Dan is gonna be safeties. Doesn't someone have
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to be over the entire secondaries far schematically because they
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: all work together? Well, that's you, that's your defensive coordinator. Yeah,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: okay it, I mean, I know this is the only
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: place that I agree. I mean, other teams do it
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: this way. Um, but I wonder will they meet together
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: in that room? Will to be one of them that
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: will have a bigger voice than the other obviously technique
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: wise and everything else. Uh, you know, you'll do it
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: separately because there's different techniques. But that's a great question
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: because I mean, do you even remember an extra meeting
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: room that could be used to split in the secondary
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: in two? No, that's my question cutting the defensive meeting
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: room into into two, which I guess could be done.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: And I guess I guess that would be like if
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: you think, because the secondary I always views like the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: offensive line, that'd be like saying, okay, you're the center guard,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: uh coach and you're the tackles coach. At some point,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: one person has to be over the schematic of teaching
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the schemes and and everything else. But it's too so
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Tomson going to the defense back room and teach the coverages,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and I think I think, I think he will be
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: involved quite a bit, and I'm sure that they will,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: both coaches will alternate. Yeah, that's my question. I'm just curious.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I always think that in that room, if they're gonna
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: meet together, there has to be one guy who's the
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: final voice. Maybe not, Maybe they can do it, maybe
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: it's separate. I've never That's why I was asking Jeff
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: if he's seeing it like this, I'm not. I've always
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: been around where there was one guy who is the
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: secondary coach. But as long as the most important thing
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: is that the philosophy wise or scheme wise, there should
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: only be one voice, and no matter who speaks it,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: there's one voice or one language. This is what we're doing.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: This is what we do, and that's not open for
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: debate or and it doesn't matter whether JP tell us
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: it or Joe says it, or Tony says it or
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I say it. It's all the same. And so I
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: don't think it should be that it should be that
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: should be an issue in the room at all. Defensive
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: line that has to be decided before though. Oh sure, yeah,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: very soon. I'm sure I'm sure that that's that's probably
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: been decided. Uh, defensive line. Jason Rebrevitch sticks around. He
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: is the head defensive line coach. I'd go, that's this
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: thing in the practice Field's what he says all the time.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: What do you make of rebro I like Jason. I
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: think he's uh, uh, he's he is definitely uh, what's
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the word. He is very rare when when me and
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: him talk about players and scheme and what players need
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: to work on. I mean, he's on point. So I
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: got a lot of respect for him having played the position.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Is an assistant, he doesn't have an assistant, and that's
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: David Merritt, who uh is the assistant defensive line coach.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: And he worked for Coughlin. Is that correct? Yeah? He
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: was in New York as the secondary safetyes coach oh
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: six through sevent teens, so he was there for a
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: long time New York, yes, so um, but in the
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: defensive assistant he was a defensive backs coach for the
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Cardinals last year. So uh, he's in as the assistant
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: defensive line coach here in Jackson. The most important thing
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: is that you know, you get coaches in here that
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: can make players better. Players love coaches that make them better.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: That's what it's about. I mean, if you if you
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: can't mean yeah, is but then they don't have the respect.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: But but will you get a lot on that every
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: player wants to coach him. It's gonna make them better. Hey,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: hold on, guys, hold on now. I just heard it's
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: all about coaches making you better. And Dave Merritt has
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: been coaching dbs for the last seventeen years, So how
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: is he going to help the d line get better?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: If he's been coaching dbs for the last seventeen years.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying does he have a background as a
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: defensive linement that I'm missing? I don't know. I'm answering
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: that's a great question. Uh, it's kind of the same
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: thing that you talk about. Terry Rubinski has been a
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: wide receiver coach, but he played the running back position.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I don't have any qualms about Terry Robiskie coaching running backs,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: but I don't know the answer to that about about
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: David Merritt and JP is right now, dig indeed, to
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: find out the coaching history or the playing history of David.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: He started in the league his career as a one
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: as a defensive assistant linebackers coach is the coaching history, um,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and then moved up as a quality control coach, defensive
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: assistant the safeties and secondary coach of the Giants, and
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: then dv's last year with the Cardinals. So um, it
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of different positions. Did he play
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: the game? He's a seventh round pick at DNC State
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: three and I'm gonna say, defensive of linebacker. Here's a linebacker,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: here's a linebacker. Didn't he state? Okay, No, I'm not
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: being creas It's curious, I mean, and what made me
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: think of it is you guys saying it's all about
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: making players better. I agree with that. By the way.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: It's interest to me though, that Tony, that you and
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I both know and we we followed the league, been
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: around the league both for a long time. And it's
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: odd that a lot of you know, former players that
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: have transitioned to the coaching profession, some that some coach
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: their position that they played, but probably more of them don't,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: which I've never understood that Freddie Kitchens was a running
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: backs coach the start of the season. Well, I I
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: get that point, but but for example, Keny maccardell, I
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: think is one of the rarities in the National Football
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: League where he played the game at a high level
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and he coached and he coaches that position. Now. Uh.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Tom Rathman was a guy who played the game at
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: running back coach for a long time with the San
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners as a running backs coach. But those
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: guys are kind of the the few. A lot of
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: guys have played one position and stayed on the same
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: side of the ball, but have coached another position. I
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: don't know. I never understood that. I mean, if the
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: guy played the position, wouldn't he be more qualified to
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: coach the position that he played as opposed to one
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: that he didn't. I don't know. Well, yeah, but forget that.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I disagree with you there, Jeff. My
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: question is you coach defensive backs for seventeen years for
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: having me years oh six to this year, so that's
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: thirteen years. You coach defensive backs for thirteen years and
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: we hired him as this is a defensive line coach.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I just maybe I'm missing the relevance of that. Yeah,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: who knows, We'll see. I mean, b a great question
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: for Doug when I say him, they what were your
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: thoughts with David Merritt as a disassisting coach, you know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: because maybe he's got thoughts about it. I don't know.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Let's come back. We're gonna get our picks in and
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: see the results from last week's debacle. Undefeated. I know
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I'm undefeated. Good for you. I was three and one,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: so I'm still way ahead of you. Jeff. Sorry, I
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't either one of those. By the way, didn't we do?
• 44:51
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  Speaker 1: the challenge because it is gonna be challenging for you
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  Speaker 1: the matter. Let's get to our picks from last week
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  Speaker 1: on the wild card weekend, Divisional weekend, Yeah, divisional weekends blogs.
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  Speaker 1: You were four oh last weekend, but you were three
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  Speaker 1: and one hours two and two. I finally won a
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  Speaker 1: couple of games, um, but for the playoffs, but SELLI
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  Speaker 1: now six and who lugs five and three? I am
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  Speaker 1: an awful two and six and not so good for
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  Speaker 1: you two weeks and I don't know the math on this.
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  Speaker 1: The point totals have changed, do have? So who cares
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  Speaker 1: right this week? And I or I am not gonna
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: be able to make it back unless Boselli goes over. Well,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I might have picked the same teams. You never know.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I might change my picks based upon
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: what he's picked. Let me see what he's got, Joe,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: The picks are in, Joe, get us going all right? Naturally?
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Two games both on Sunday. They start a little later.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Three oh five is the first game Rams at. The
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: SATs don't field advantage for the Saints. They squeaked one
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: out last week against the Eagles, and uh, I can't
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: pick against Drew Brees. I'll be honest with you. I
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: think it is good. I think both both games intriguing.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Hard to pick them. In my opinion. I think it's
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: it's really close both of the cs. I think both
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: are goes. I want SATs, you know. I think this
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: is a coin flip flip game. I do, but I'm
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: gonna take the home advantage. Just give it a slight edge.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Saints all the way on this crew here. But yeah,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you're right, it could go if if, like you said
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: off the air earlier, if Gurley gets going and the
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Rams offense is going full tilt, he's up trouble. Saints
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: are in trouble now. But I've got a feeling I
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: think that Dante Fowler will screw something up in this game.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is watching the last game.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: There were multiple times I had a DV yard and
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I was watching him where he couldn't get lined up,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: he didn't know what he was doing on the snap
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: of the ball, and he came close to getting roughing
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: the past for penalty because he goes up around the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: head neck are the quarterback so often? I'm just sitting
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: there going, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I love it this. That's my pick. Jay Fowler will
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: have a major breakdown of some kind. Interesting commentary there
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: from Jeff Flag Joe. Keep us moving. Certainly, second game,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Stark time is six forty. If that first game is
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: as close as everybody says this, he goes in overtime,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: they'll hold that second game up. They always holding the
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: second game. Ye, yes, they will. Conflicting Tony's it is
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: holding up last week. Yes they did. They went right. No,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: they did not last week's game. But the first game
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: was not finished, and I guess it was on Saturday
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: for Sunday, and then they started the next game without
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: you're talking, You're talking Sunday. It was Sunday. First game
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: went long. It was like three and a half hours.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: They held the second game. We literally threw it to
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: kick off from our game. I know, I'm telling you
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: they hold it. I thought it was overlap. It was.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: It was like bang bang, though they held they overlap
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: from like the pregame showing all that stuff, but they'll
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: hold the kick. I was watching the pregame show on
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the second game, which was stocks I believe just because
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: the first gamester. By the way, Oh yeah, Patriots, Chiefs
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: and Narrowhead, might be some weather concerns. Therefore your toning
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: your call in the game. Yeah, it's getting warmer. Uh.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Two days ago it was gonna be a high of
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: eight and possibly negative degrees. It's up to two today
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: as the high with about chance of snow. So um, yeah,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: the weather won't be quite as bad. Um. Both teams
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: are used to playing the bad weather. I don't think
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: it's really an advantage. I think the home field is
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: going to be the advantage. I think I like the Chiefs. Again,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: this is a coin flip. I can see the Patriots
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: win in this game. About both these games are hard
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: to pick, and I thought about this game. I think
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: this game, the Patriots chance of wayne, I think is
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: greater than the rams of beating the New Orleans because
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Tony and I have talked about this before the strength
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: of the Chiefs defensively are the two edge players d
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Ford and Justin Houston. And he's dirty. Yeah, But Jeff,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: you know what's changed since we played him the second
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: half of the year. Chris Jones there inside guy went
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: on a sack frenzy. Yes, he's rushing. He's rushing the
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: three technique and he's been and he's been good and
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: he he may be the one that impacts the game
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: the most because look, Tom Brady doesn't have edge rushers
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: change the way that he plays quarterback. For the most part,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: it's out so fast. I mean, he gets rid of
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: the ball quick. He does a great job in the pocket.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: They have a firm pocket up front, and will Chris
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Jones be able to make that pocket not so firm.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: But I mean, if there's an offense that can beat
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Chiefs, it's Tom Brady's lead offense because
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: of the style that they play in the running backs
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: impact and the linebackers for the Chiefs, the ones that
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: cover are not that good it. So I think this
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: is a incredibly intriguing game. That's the game. To me,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: that's the game. I mean, I both thought might think
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: it will be amazing. Both are just rock solid great.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, I gotta fly. I
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: actually have to fly into Kansas City a day early.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I gott fly tomorrow night because of the weather, because
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: it's no it's supposed to snow more Saturday than Sunday. Wow,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: the next day in Kansas City is not a bad thing.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. Hands nothing wrong with that. I'll be
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: sitting in the hotel room. You guys picked the Chiefs,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: by the way, right, and I picked the Patriots. Yeah,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: you might be right. You might be right, but you
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: might be wrong. It could be crazy. I think, I think.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think. You know what the problem is jping.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: No one cares to be right or wrong because there's
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: no chance to be catching anyoney. I'm out of it now.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you guys a question and all honesty,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: because I want to know if I'm the only one
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: that wants watches the Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: playing bok because to have him. Yeah, you're not the
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: only one. Yeah, I'm afraid every time he makes one
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: of those phenomenal throws, I go for the record for
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: the record, for the record. You wanted to pick the
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: generational back for the record. I know, but he also
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: said Tony at Mahomes. No, no, he said, I agree.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Jeff was right on the Homes. But for the record,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: the jury is still out of the other guy. He
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: let us all know that you gotta pick the generational
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: back cricket. I don't have anything for I don't have
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: anything to respond to him that I don't know. I
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: hope he I hope he becomes the generational back to
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I hope he becomes one. So Championship game picks are in.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Should be some good football, um, you know. And then
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: we got super Bowl coming up in a couple of weeks, Tony,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Are you nervous yet, by the way, for super Bowl Week? No?
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Not yet? Un right before of course, Yeah, I'll be
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: nervous when we I'll be I'll be doing the show
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: from Atlanta that Thursday night, and so when I call
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: you guys that Thursday night, I'll be nervous. Good yet, Yeah,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: he gotta ways to go yet. Don't you enjoyed New York? Yeah?
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I wish I was not here, but I am. We
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: will catch you next time, alright, Pride of the Jaguars
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: joining us from New York City with a couple of
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: minutes left here, You and I wrap up the program. Yeah,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: so tell me why you think the Patriots are gonna win.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Because they're the Patriots and they know how to play
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: in these type of games. The Chiefs have not been
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: to this level. And I have never hosted an NFC
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: championship game ever. Andy Reid just you know, I never
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: thought I love Andy Reid to death. But you got
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady coming in. This is not like an
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: average team coming in there. I never imagine that that
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick could come up with a
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: game plan that would absolutely destroy the Chargers defense like
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: they did them up. Did you see any impact when
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I talked about the edge players for the Kansas City Chiefs,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: because you know what, the Chargers have two great edge players,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram and Joey Bosa. Did you see any impact
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: that those two guys had? None? Absolutely none. In the
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: secondary of the Chargers is better than the secondary of
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The linebackers of the Chiefs and the Chargers
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: are probably about equals, so that's kind of a wash
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: up front. Two great edge players. Chiefs have two great
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: edge players. That difference could be Chris Jones and Chris
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Jones the middle guy he could be the difference like
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Tony was talking about, and uh, he's a he's a
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: heck of the football player has been on a roll.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I just I never thought Gus Bradley's
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: defensive man, the hammer Gus Bradley at the halftime show,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: well that they give up like four straight touchdowns or
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: something to start the game. And uh, they were all
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: calling for the Charges to play more man, and the
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Charges weren't doing. They're playing more zone and the Chiefs
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: maybe they come out and play more man. I would
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: have played the Patriots more man, just because I don't
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: think they have the talent that skill positions that would
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: warn a zone coverage. Fun football coming up this weekend.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately the Jaguars are not a part of it this year,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: and there's a lot to discuss over the next week.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Will be in the at the Senior Bowl Mobile next
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: week with coverage on Jaguars dot Com. We'll see you
• 59:32
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• 59:37
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