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Too Soon to Abandon Ship with Jay Setchell | Ship's Log #35 · Project Candor: Ordinary People. Unexpected Stories

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Jay Setchell: And after I broke my neck and was never supposed to move, Jeanne, I was not supposed to ever walk, or I was never supposed to move.
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Jay Setchell: They didn't think I'd move anything from my shoulders down.
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Jay Setchell: But I never gave up.
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Jay Setchell: I never gave up.
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Jay Setchell: I never didn't quit.
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Jeanne: Welcome to Project Candor, where ordinary people share unexpected stories.
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Jeanne: I'm your host, Jeanne Andersen, and today's guest has lived the kind of life that most of us barely imagine.
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Jeanne: Jay Setchell was born and raised on a working farm where nothing worthwhile ever came free.
0:49
Jeanne: You worked for it plain and simple.
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Jeanne: That early foundation shaped everything that followed.
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Jeanne: Jay went on to serve as a Marine, build businesses as an entrepreneur, and navigate a life filled with extraordinary challenges and extraordinary resilience.
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Jeanne: He has faced physical battles, most of us will never know, and he has come out the other side, not just surviving, but fully fully engaged in living.
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Jeanne: Today, Jay coaches others, leads with faith, and carries a simple but powerful truth he's held on to for decades.
1:20
Jeanne: It's always too soon to quit.
1:22
Jeanne: Jay.
1:23
Jeanne: Hello, welcome to Project Candor.
1:25
Jeanne: I'm so glad you joined us.
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Jay Setchell: I'm glad to be here.
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Jay Setchell: We've we've been working on this, so I'm glad to have that smile on the other side.
1:33
Jeanne: Well, that's just great.
1:34
Jeanne: I'm really glad you're here.
1:36
Jeanne: We um we actually tried to do this a couple times, but we had not by our fault technical issues, and then we um then we had some reschedules and stuff, but hey, we're all good.
1:51
Jeanne: Um, so here's how we go.
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Jeanne: I'm gonna start with questions, and then at the end, we'll stop and we'll play our signature game, Two Truths and a Lie, with you, and then uh we'll wrap it up.
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Jeanne: So are you ready to go with the questions?
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Jay Setchell: You're the boss.
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Jay Setchell: Go for it.
2:07
Jeanne: Okay.
2:07
Jeanne: Question one.
2:09
Jay Setchell: Uh-oh.
2:10
Jeanne: Jay, I hear you're a farm boy at heart, so take me back there for a minute.
2:14
Jeanne: What did mornings look like?
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Jeanne: Were you up before the sun with a list of chores, or were you the kid who couldn't wait to get outside and check on a favorite animal?
2:23
Jeanne: Paint us that picture.
2:26
Jay Setchell: Well, I think uh the the chores and the favorite animal were kind of the same thing in a way.
2:30
Jay Setchell: I I but no, I yep, we got up if if you weren't up by dark, I mean you you were always up before sun up because we had uh a a lot of a lot of cattle.
2:41
Jay Setchell: And uh you if you weren't well you just had to be, or they'd be mooing and they'd wake you up.
2:46
Jay Setchell: But no, I I enjoy getting up.
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Jay Setchell: And starting about five years old, I was I was uh going down the basement and mixing up uh powdered milk with warm water in a bucket and a nipple pail to feed calves and stuff, and you know, and then you dragged the the buckets, you know, it depending on how many you had through through the snow in the winter or through the tall grass in the summer, and you know, it was part of the part of what you did, and then you helped your dad, or I helped my dad or my grandfather with the other cattle, and but it was always you know, it was pulling weeds, it was uh what they called walking beans, which you chop out corn from the previous year, but it was uh or or painting buildings, uh cribs.
3:28
Jay Setchell: Uh you're always busy, you're always doing something, uh learning how to um get on the equipment.
3:34
Jay Setchell: You know, I was by the time I was nine, I was out of school in the spring and in the fall helping put crops in, take crops out, and uh it was a it was a lot of uh you you learned a sense of urgency and you learned a lot of responsibility.
3:49
Jay Setchell: And and I think that's and and it was just my my dad told me one time he said, I you know, I don't ever want to have to tell you to do anything.
3:58
Jay Setchell: I just want to suggest it.
4:00
Jay Setchell: So if he ever said like, uh it kind of looks like the weeds around a catalot fence need to be pulled, okay.
4:07
Jay Setchell: But but only he only ever had to tell me that once, and if I saw saw them after that, I I understood he would he doesn't need to tell me again.
4:15
Jay Setchell: You know, it's but I I enjoyed it.
4:18
Jay Setchell: You know, you saw the cycle of life.
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Jay Setchell: You understood the weather, you understood um community, helping each other down the up and down the road.
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Jay Setchell: Farmers helped farmers.
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Jay Setchell: We lived about f three, four miles, four miles out of a small farm town.
4:34
Jay Setchell: But you you were involved, you know.
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Jay Setchell: It was uh it was people help people back in those days.
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Jay Setchell: Today you don't know the person that lives across the street from you or next to you.
4:44
Jay Setchell: It's just it's it's it's pretty sad.
4:47
Jay Setchell: But so I I learned a lot.
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Jay Setchell: I think it it it it gave me an extremely good foundation of of always always trying, never quitting, and and there was always something to be done.
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Jeanne: Well, at a young age, there was a lot of um things dependent on you, just like you said.
5:06
Jeanne: Um everything has to be done at a time.
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Jeanne: And you know, it's almost like people don't understand how project-managed a farm has to be because you have to plant a certain time of the year, you have to judge when whether that time is ready or not, like by the weather, your animals have to eat, like you have to eat.
5:26
Jeanne: You can't just leave them out there for days and not feed them.
5:29
Jeanne: So how what kind of animals did you have?
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Jay Setchell: Oh, most mostly cattle.
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Jay Setchell: Uh we had hogs three or four different times.
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Jay Setchell: We'd have, you know, a couple hundred head of hogs that were in with the cattle, but uh the cattle we we would feed about twelve hundred head a year, so that was quite a few.
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Jay Setchell: Like six hundred takes about six months, and then another six hundred, so they it wasn't exactly every six months.
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Jay Setchell: And we had uh enough chickens um that I well I when I was about five I started also picking up eggs at nighttime with the the old wire baskets you carry the eggs in, and I'd have to make several trips and and the the cases of eggs held thirty dozen, so I had to sort the the brown ones from the white ones and the double yolkers went over here, and if they were real dirty you washed them off, you know, but and there weren't very many that were dirty, and uh then my dad would take them into town to the candling plant.
6:25
Jay Setchell: So I it it was just a j I don't know, I never thought about it.
6:28
Jeanne: It was just a white plant say that again.
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Jay Setchell: What they call a candling, candling plant.
6:34
Jay Setchell: They run the eggs in front of candles and they could see and make sure it wasn't a bred egg.
6:39
Jay Setchell: It wasn't a it it it didn't have it was all yolk, it was a it was a regular egg that would go to market to be eaten.
6:47
Jeanne: So I didn't know they had a plant dedicated to do that.
6:50
Jeanne: I I know people do it in their homes, but I guess if you have that much volume, you have to have somewhere to go.
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Jay Setchell: Oh yeah, just to but it it wasn't much, it was just an old beat-up building and they they did it.
7:02
Jay Setchell: I don't I don't remember except just riding to town with my dad to deliver the big cases of eggs.
7:08
Jay Setchell: That was I that that memory is kind of a f a very faded memory.
7:15
Jeanne: But but it's still interesting.
7:17
Jeanne: I had never heard of that, a candling plant.
7:19
Jeanne: I didn't know and twelve thousand uh cattle?
7:24
Jay Setchell: No, twelve hundred.
7:25
Jeanne: Twelve hundred.
7:26
Jeanne: That's still a lot.
7:27
Jeanne: How many acres did you have to have for that that amount of cattle?
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Jay Setchell: Well, it wasn't you could actually well we could fill the silos off of oh probably thirty acres of corn, forty acres of corn, but we we had uh a few hundred that we had, and then we leased uh well, we rented from two old old made ladies uh about twelve hundred acres.
7:51
Jay Setchell: We had them, no, they were they the two two sisters married two brothers.
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Jay Setchell: The brothers died like a year apart from each other, and we rented their land for years and I mean like 40 years.
8:03
Jeanne: Not their own brothers, right?
8:05
Jeanne: They they two brothers or one family had two sisters.
8:09
Jeanne: Okay, thank God.
8:12
Jay Setchell: Okay, but but it was but it was it was cool, you know, it was you you're always learning something, you know.
8:18
Jay Setchell: And my dad started other businesses and was kind of an entrepreneur on the side.
8:23
Jay Setchell: We did a lot of agricultural spraying with airplanes, you know, spraying crops and uh stuff, and then Del Monte, which has recently gone bankrupt, but Del Monte back in the day, we you know, they had sweet corn and green beans and lima beans and sweet peas and all that, and you sprayed it for either bugs or whatever.
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Jay Setchell: And so it was always something there was always something to do, you know.
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Jay Setchell: And then when I was in high school, I I worked um starting when I was a sophomore.
8:52
Jay Setchell: School got out at uh quarter to quarter to four, and I started working in a small agriculture factory uh that made grain dryers and pickup reels for combines uh to harvest wheat and soybeans and such.
9:06
Jay Setchell: And I worked till 12:30 at night and I got home about and ended to bed about one, got back up at 5:30 in the morning to help my dad with his chores, and because if I didn't help him with his chores and do my own, then he would charge me at night to do mine, because nothing's for free.
9:23
Jay Setchell: It's his time.
9:24
Jay Setchell: Time is money and money is time.
9:26
Jay Setchell: But it but it that's what I'm saying.
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Jay Setchell: You learned I never took offense to it.
9:30
Jay Setchell: It was like, okay, good enough.
9:32
Jeanne: Yeah, I like that.
9:34
Jeanne: So you you are a farm boy at heart, I get that.
9:37
Jeanne: So how does that farm boy show up in your life today?
9:40
Jeanne: Because you're doing a lot of other the stuff.
9:42
Jay Setchell: I it it it it I think it, if nothing else, it takes me back to the realization of an appreciation for weather, soil.
9:51
Jay Setchell: Um uh it gives you a sense of uh what's what's what what's the words I want to say?
9:57
Jay Setchell: Um the the life cycle, because like you mentioned before, there's a time to plant, there's a time to to take care of the crops, to cultivate them, there's a time to harvest them.
10:07
Jay Setchell: And it's kind of like I'm in the early winter of my life.
10:10
Jay Setchell: You know, it's it's I I have to look at it like that.
10:13
Jay Setchell: And one of these days I won't be here anymore, and you know, uh either by accidents, which I've been through, and or by by just dying, you know, and and so it it's it i don't know, but it's still there.
10:28
Jay Setchell: It's just like I can remember walking the fields and grabbing the soil and smelling that soil.
10:34
Jay Setchell: And you can tell if soil's uh got kind of a sweet odor to it, if you will, and once it's sour, it's just uh not an odor.
10:42
Jay Setchell: Well, it is an odor because if it hasn't rained for quite a while as the rain comes across the fields, you can smell the dirt, you can smell the soil.
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Jay Setchell: You know, and it's it's nice to i i y you watch stuff grow, you're able to see that that seed that went in the ground is now a thousand acres of corn.
11:02
Jay Setchell: You know, or whatever.
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Jay Setchell: It's just you know, and it's really it's it's very I don't know, it it just it gives you an anticipation of the future, it gives you belief in what's gonna happen, and you have to have the faith that it's things are gonna turn out.
11:18
Jay Setchell: So I think you develop a lot of other instincts.
11:21
Jay Setchell: You know, not saying everybody does, you know, but right.
11:26
Jeanne: Well, I get excited over my little basil plants and my chives.
11:30
Jeanne: I'm going out there, oh, I'm gonna water you now and just talk to them.
11:36
Jeanne: I don't know.
11:36
Jeanne: Kind of crazy.
11:38
Jeanne: But I grew up in a farm area, I was not on a farm, but I um I have an appreciation for the way they were hard workers.
11:45
Jeanne: And also you're talking about soil smelling.
11:48
Jeanne: If you've been around tobacco and it's uh I I know I say that wrong.
11:54
Jeanne: I say it the southern way, tobacco.
11:56
Jeanne: Um if you've been around tobacco barns when they're curing tobacco, what a smell.
12:02
Jeanne: That aroma is so nice.
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Jay Setchell: Yeah, I well.
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Jeanne: Don't want to smoke it, but it smells great.
12:09
Jay Setchell: We we never hit raised tobacco any of that stuff like that.
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Jay Setchell: But I remember when I had my trucking company going by and being able to off some side road seeing the the the drying barns out there with all the tobacco hanging and stuff.
12:21
Jay Setchell: And yeah, it was interesting.
12:23
Jay Setchell: But I I never I never I don't remember smelling it.
12:27
Jay Setchell: Not like alfalfa or driving by a hay field that's been freshly cut.
12:32
Jeanne: Oh, that has a smell too, yes.
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Jay Setchell: Oh, very sweet.
12:34
Jay Setchell: Very it's clover and it it smells very sweet.
12:37
Jay Setchell: Very yeah.
12:39
Jeanne: Very nice.
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Jeanne: Yeah, so I mean, people just need to just um understand that all of this nature around us is is got a purpose, and that you know, the people that actually are cultivating the food and the animals, the milk or whatever, it I don't know if you used your cattle for beef, but if you just use it for milk, I mean there's somebody out there working really hard to give you what you want, and we can't be spoiled about it.
13:05
Jay Setchell: There yeah, there there are we we were beef cattle only.
13:08
Jay Setchell: Uh I the cattle the calves that I raised came from a cousin that had milk cattle.
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Jay Setchell: Well, when you when you got a little bull born, obviously you can't milk it, so I would buy it.
13:19
Jay Setchell: And I I started out with they were two dollars apiece.
13:21
Jay Setchell: I got them at like a bunch they were a week old, and they were two bucks apiece.
13:25
Jay Setchell: And I remember when they went to five dollars apiece when I was about eight.
13:29
Jay Setchell: And uh but like you say, there's a lot of work involved with it no matter what you're doing.
13:34
Jay Setchell: And and I I I did something in my book.
13:36
Jay Setchell: I I look back and in nineteen fifty, I think it was, there were well, from nineteen fifty to nineteen sixty or sixty-five, something like that, there were two and a half million less people working farms than there were the decade or decade and a half before.
13:57
Jay Setchell: And we used to uh farm about three and a half million acres, if I recall the book, record my research, and now we're down to like less than a million acres.
14:08
Jay Setchell: Oh it's crazy, it's crazy.
14:11
Jay Setchell: And we're producing more, but there's got to be a limit.
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Jay Setchell: And and unfortunately, it's like where I was raised, it was like or or you mentioned tobacco, tobacco, uh, tobacco farms.
14:22
Jeanne: I got you saying it now.
14:24
Jay Setchell: Tobacco farms weren't weren't very big.
14:26
Jay Setchell: They were on 20 acres or 30 acres or 40 acres, because a lot of it was done by hand, and uh, if not a lot most of it.
14:34
Jay Setchell: And um uh where I was at, the nearest farm was a mile away, and then the next one was a mile after that, and maybe a mile, two and a half miles, or maybe one in the middle, and and then another mile.
14:48
Jay Setchell: And the thing is that those farms don't exist anymore.
14:51
Jay Setchell: They're gone.
14:52
Jay Setchell: The houses are gone, the homesteads are gone, the people are gone, and and it really in and part of it is big ag uh uh Monsanto and all the the problems they've brought into the the world, uh ADM and whatnot.
15:08
Jay Setchell: But it's also um farmers wanted to get bigger, but they don't realize that getting so big you drive everybody else out of business.
15:19
Jay Setchell: And there's there, you know, and some people enjoyed the life, not just was it a life, but it was it was a way of life.
15:26
Jay Setchell: But that hurts the small towns because you don't have the cafes open anymore, now the gas stations are gone, you got a McDonald's over here in a small town of 4,000 people, um, because it used to have five or six cafes that the farmers would go to to have a cup of coffee or chat about what the crops were doing and the weather and whatnot.
15:51
Jay Setchell: And and and town people would go there too.
15:53
Jay Setchell: But so it it it killed more than just the farm life.
15:57
Jay Setchell: It it also damaged the cities and the town.
16:00
Jeanne: Yes, it did.
16:00
Jeanne: It didn't.
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Jeanne: The town I grew up in is just really dwindling down to nothing.
16:04
Jeanne: And they say very sad.
16:06
Jeanne: And you know, it's so funny when you talk, you said you planted corn and stuff.
16:10
Jeanne: It's a lot of the farm people had their own, they sustained themselves by their crops, plus having gardens and so canning tomatoes and um you know, freezing corn and things.
16:24
Jeanne: And you know, if you look at it now, if if I could, I was so ready to get away from the farm lifestyle, you know.
16:31
Jeanne: Um, but the the fact if you could go to the store and buy a can of corn or somebody that froze corn from fresh corn, oh, I would just grab that bag of frozen corn that they put up.
16:42
Jeanne: That tasted so much better.
16:44
Jeanne: So we've lost something big.
16:47
Jay Setchell: Yeah, frozen corn was pretty good, but yeah, we did what you know you called it canning, you know, you know, where you put in the jars, and we had a a root cellar and in our basement.
16:56
Jay Setchell: I mean, we had a wall that was covered with it.
16:58
Jay Setchell: I mean, you know, you grew everything in the garden and uh and and spraying the stuff we did for Del Monte, we always knew which fields were going to be harvested, so we would just and the plant was only three miles away, so you just went over and pick up fifty pounds of sweet peas if you want, and you went home and you canned them.
17:15
Jay Setchell: You know, you rinsed them off and whatever.
17:17
Jay Setchell: But you know, we we you you we we canned our own chicken, our own pork, our own beef.
17:22
Jay Setchell: So we were not dependent upon the stores, except for maybe sugar, salt and pepper, you know, uh the basics, some basics, you know.
17:33
Jay Setchell: Um otherwise you kind of lived on the land.
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Jay Setchell: And I and I remember talking to my grandmother when I was uh in in my teens and asking her about what they thought about the depression.
17:43
Jay Setchell: She said, you know, it didn't really bother us because we didn't live we lived very frugally to begin with.
17:49
Jay Setchell: We lived on we always ate what we grew, we grew what we ate, we you know, uh asparagus uh or elderberries, if you've ever heard of them.
17:57
Jay Setchell: I mean, they they grew wild alongside the road.
18:00
Jay Setchell: You just went and picked them.
18:01
Jay Setchell: You know, and you made them into jelly or elderberry wine or you know, it was just kind of a it was an easy way of life.
18:07
Jay Setchell: It wasn't an easy way of life, it was a hard way of life, but it was an easy way to stay connected, as you mentioned before, to nature.
18:15
Jay Setchell: And and and and and to live healthy.
18:18
Jeanne: You had to mention elderberries, I have to say.
18:21
Jeanne: My husband's from Sweden, born and raised, um, and he said they used to go across and pick elder flowers and make a soft, is what they called of it, which is a drink, which it tastes like flowers to me.
18:34
Jeanne: I don't like it.
18:36
Jeanne: But I mean that they would go across and pick blueberries and pick mushrooms, which I'd be terrified that I'd pick somebody bad, but um, yeah, that that was his way of life too.
18:47
Jeanne: So that's it's sad that it's going away.
18:50
Jeanne: But we got more to cover, so I'll just go to my next I'll go to my next question because I could talk about this all day.
18:56
Jeanne: Uh, you've been through, Jay, you've been through 73 surgeries multiple times.
19:01
Jeanne: You've come face to face with death.
19:03
Jeanne: Did it take all of that, the surgeries, the pain, the losses, before you finally heard what your life was trying to tell you?
19:13
Jay Setchell: Wow.
19:14
Jay Setchell: I yes and no.
19:21
Jay Setchell: I I I I I don't know.
19:23
Jay Setchell: I mean, I I I that's a good question.
19:25
Jay Setchell: I I I've never I've never even thought about that.
19:29
Jay Setchell: I I I don't know.
19:34
Jay Setchell: I I I I I just know I was I believe that I was meant to to succeed.
19:40
Jay Setchell: I believe that God's got me here to to live and to share and to help.
19:45
Jay Setchell: And I've learned that.
19:48
Jay Setchell: I I know that what it did till I till I broke my neck when I was 31 and drowned and was paralyzed, never supposed to move again, which I that's another story.
20:01
Jay Setchell: Um but I I think a lot of it I just bowled ahead.
20:06
Jay Setchell: It was just a I'm charged ahead, go for it, you know, don't stop, you know.
20:10
Jay Setchell: And uh in the in the Marine Corps, you know, the it's kind of like I was torn up real bad and and that's I died from the injuries and they got me back, uh the same as with the car accident in in 73 with the drunk driver.
20:26
Jay Setchell: But you know, a lot of that I I use this term, you know, sweat dries, blood clots, and broken bones heal.
20:34
Jay Setchell: So you heal from that.
20:36
Jay Setchell: But when someone's had a and I had a very bad TBI, um uh and then later of course S you know, spinal cord injury.
20:46
Jay Setchell: But it's it's if you have something people can't see, like a stroke, uh uh a TBI, uh spinal cord injury, those are things that are inside your body that you can't see at all.
20:59
Jay Setchell: So my third degree burns, yeah, they don't look good.
21:03
Jay Setchell: They look used to look worse, but but it it will heal your your broken bones.
21:09
Jay Setchell: If you ever bro had a broken hand or an arm or a collarbone, it healed.
21:13
Jay Setchell: You know, or if you cut yourself a little bit, you know, you get a scab on it, and pretty soon the scab if you know falls off or you rub it off and oh, you got skin again.
21:23
Jay Setchell: So God was God did a lot of miracles with us to let our bodies heal themselves, or a lot of it.
21:30
Jay Setchell: Now your brain will not regenerate or spinal cord doesn't regenerate, at least that's what I've always been told and heard, and that seems like that's the fact.
21:40
Jay Setchell: So you know I I don't know.
21:47
Jay Setchell: I I just I just keep pushing ahead.
21:49
Jay Setchell: I th I think that I'm you know, God's got me here for a purpose.
21:52
Jay Setchell: I don't know what I I I've I've identified that purpose a little more over the last few years, and that's just to help people and I've always Enjoyed that.
22:00
Jay Setchell: I like to reach out.
22:02
Jay Setchell: That's the way I was raised.
22:03
Jay Setchell: I watched us, you know, if your neighbors were sick, you took them a pot of stew and some, I don't know, peach cobbler and some cornbread or something, you know.
22:12
Jay Setchell: Sounds good.
22:12
Jay Setchell: It does sound good, doesn't it?
22:15
Jay Setchell: And uh but he took enough for a couple of days' worth of food, you know, or if they were injured, you helped bring their crops in.
22:21
Jay Setchell: And you know, so that was a purpose, and and I think that that's where I got a lot of that was, you know, um we had some pretty good sized uh snow removal equipment.
22:32
Jay Setchell: And so maybe our neighbors didn't.
22:35
Jay Setchell: And if we could get to their farm, we we would we would help clear out some of the snow for 'em.
22:40
Jay Setchell: And i i it was just helping.
22:42
Jay Setchell: So I I just that would that's been my whole life, I think, a lot of it.
22:47
Jay Setchell: And that's why I I look at the all the stuff that I did on the on the farm.
22:55
Jay Setchell: It it always whenever you completed something, you had you had something that was completed.
23:06
Jay Setchell: I don't know what other word I can use.
23:07
Jay Setchell: You know, you you uh you you uh finished a task, if you will.
23:12
Jay Setchell: And so as you move through life, the more you do, the more you accomplish, the more you accomplish, the more you learn, the more you learn, the more you do.
23:20
Jay Setchell: And it's just kind of like a a cycle of life, I guess.
23:24
Jay Setchell: And uh so I I've enjoyed it.
23:26
Jay Setchell: I mean I but I don't know that anything really taught me other than just doing.
23:34
Jay Setchell: And you know, as long as you're if you're breathing, you should be moving, if you're moving, you should be accomplishing something or trying to do something.
23:42
Jeanne: Yeah, that sounds great.
23:43
Jeanne: He reminded me a lot when I read of your story um about Winston Churchill, who said, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never give up.
23:53
Jay Setchell: I've I've used that.
23:54
Jay Setchell: I've used that in a in a talk once.
23:56
Jay Setchell: I that yeah, he said, you know, we will never give up.
23:59
Jay Setchell: You know, we're we they can fight us in the we'll fight them in the air, we'll fight them in the sea, we'll fight them on the streets, but we will never give up.
24:07
Jay Setchell: And that's true.
24:09
Jeanne: It's it's a you know You've never given up.
24:12
Jay Setchell: I can't Well it's it's to to give up is to give in, and I'm not that's not me.
24:19
Jay Setchell: I'm not gonna do it.
24:20
Jay Setchell: And and you have to have that, you know, we used to call it attitude, now they call it mindset.
24:26
Jay Setchell: But I if you have that attitude and and and the willingness and the want, and this is our strongest muscle up here, you know, it's like I don't feel I'm disabled.
24:37
Jay Setchell: I'm I'm differently abled, but you and I have more in common than just my paralysis, you know.
24:44
Jay Setchell: It's uh it's um you know, there there's an old saying that you know it's your attitude, not your aptitude, that controls your altitude.
24:53
Jay Setchell: So i you know, and and it's been around for years, but it's true, you know, and you can decide if you want to do something and you set your mind to it, it's mind over matter.
25:04
Jay Setchell: You know, or another old saying you probably heard is if there's a will, there's a way.
25:09
Jeanne: Right.
25:10
Jay Setchell: But you gotta be willing to do it.
25:12
Jay Setchell: That's the problem.
25:13
Jay Setchell: When somebody tells me something, Jeanne, they can't do something, no, they can do it.
25:18
Jay Setchell: It just means to me, if they say they can't, that means they won't.
25:22
Jay Setchell: You know.
25:24
Jeanne: Right, right.
25:25
Jeanne: Does it make sense?
25:26
Jeanne: I I would agree with that.
25:27
Jay Setchell: Yeah, because you can do it.
25:29
Jay Setchell: It's just it's just a matter of time and effort.
25:32
Jeanne: Yeah, so ask me if I want to hike that hike the Appalachian Trail.
25:36
Jeanne: I can't.
25:38
Jeanne: Which really means I don't want to.
25:42
Jay Setchell: No, not not I have no interest in that either.
25:45
Jay Setchell: No, no, not at all.
25:47
Jeanne: I had a great guest though on that did do that, but I mean it was I was in awe of him, but I I don't I don't want to do it.
25:54
Jay Setchell: No, no, no.
25:55
Jeanne: So I have another question.
25:56
Jeanne: So uh most people won't ask a paralyzed person about grief because they're afraid of the answer, but loss is real, and even when someone is as strong as you clearly are, is there something you've had to genuinely mourn, something you lost you don't talk about much?
26:12
Jeanne: And have you actually made peace with it?
26:15
Jay Setchell: Um I I yes.
26:17
Jay Setchell: And I don't think I've made peace with it.
26:19
Jay Setchell: I'll I'll never make peace with it.
26:21
Jay Setchell: And that's the loss of my legs, the loss of my ability to get up and go and move and walk.
26:27
Jay Setchell: And I I I don't care about running.
26:29
Jay Setchell: I I I don't if I could just walk, if I could just get up and go instead of worrying about the wheelchair and making sure that I can get over the threshold, or okay, I get to a place I can't get in the house, or I can't get over that because uh if the if it's over about two inches, two and a half inches, I need a ramp, or I take a a folding aluminum ramp, and you know, most people come up and oh yeah, okay, come on upstairs, let's come up here and we'll take a look at this.
26:55
Jay Setchell: Well, we're you know, my art studio or whatever they've got, I don't know, the my bedroom.
27:00
Jay Setchell: And you know, um you can't do that, you know.
27:04
Jay Setchell: So I I don't think about it, but you know, I was asked the question here recently that if Jesus uh it was another podcaster and he asked me, he says, if Jesus came to your door today and you could do anything you wanted with him.
27:21
Jay Setchell: Any anything go anywhere, do anything, whatever, what would what would that be?
27:27
Jay Setchell: What would you do?
27:28
Jay Setchell: And and my and and and I had and I teared up.
27:31
Jay Setchell: I mean I I I I teared up bad.
27:33
Jay Setchell: And but uh my answer was basically was I I would o I would open the door and I would ask him to touch me.
27:40
Jay Setchell: And the reason I wanted him to touch me is I wanted to heal me my pain and my paralysis, and then I want to go walk with him.
27:48
Jay Setchell: That's why I want to be healed.
27:50
Jay Setchell: I want to just walk with him and look over what what the Lord made.
27:54
Jay Setchell: What look over this earth, look over from a a hill, and just look at what I can see, and and tell him in my own words, from my own mouth, how grateful I am and how thankful I am to to have been alive and even been through what I'd been through.
28:10
Jay Setchell: It doesn't it doesn't matter, it doesn't change this.
28:14
Jay Setchell: And you know, and and I know that he knows what I'm thinking.
28:19
Jay Setchell: We uh I I believe he believes every thought we ever have and ever we're going to have.
28:25
Jay Setchell: He knows it ahead of time, but at the same time I want to tell him out of my own mouth.
28:30
Jay Setchell: So I'm very grateful to have had what I've had and be able to get around.
28:34
Jay Setchell: I mean I can still I'm still able to run my power wheelchair up a ramp and get in a van and and I can I can at this point yet I can still and it's gonna go away.
28:45
Jay Setchell: I can move to a a seat and I use hand controls and I drive my van to where I'm going and then I gotta go through a lot more pain and get back in my wheelchair and you know, run the ramp out and get out and you know, but I'm grateful I can do that.
29:02
Jay Setchell: I'm thankful.
29:03
Jay Setchell: It's like you know, and a lot of people would be angry that they had to do that, but I'm just I'm glad I can do it.
29:10
Jay Setchell: And after I broke my neck and was never supposed to move, Jeanne, I was not supposed to ever walk.
29:17
Jay Setchell: I or I was never supposed to move.
29:19
Jay Setchell: They didn't think I'd move anything from my shoulders down, but I never gave up.
29:23
Jay Setchell: I never gave up.
29:24
Jay Setchell: I never I didn't quit.
29:25
Jay Setchell: And God was with me.
29:27
Jay Setchell: I think the power of prayer lifted a lot of a lot of what I did.
29:31
Jay Setchell: I'm an overachiever, I'm an overdoer, and I didn't quit.
29:36
Jay Setchell: And I finally walked.
29:37
Jay Setchell: And I I walked for about 15 or 16 years, 17 years with with leg braces and a cane.
29:43
Jay Setchell: Uh, but I got around.
29:45
Jay Setchell: I traveled the world, literally.
29:47
Jay Setchell: And um uh I I um then I got to the point where I had more I had brainstem surgeries and stuff because I've got something in my neck that's real bad.
29:56
Jay Setchell: And um and that put me on a walker, and I was on a walker for 17 or 18 years, and then it got worse after they replaced my knee, my left knee for the third time.
30:07
Jay Setchell: That was a sixteenth surgery on that knee, but that and the paralysis kept getting worse, and so now I've been in a power wheelchair since then.
30:16
Jay Setchell: So that's been seven or eight years.
30:18
Jay Setchell: And so I I I mean I ha I have nowhere to go but but down, I'm not gonna get any better, I don't think.
30:26
Jay Setchell: I and I try, I work at it.
30:28
Jay Setchell: I mean I I you know I I work my hand out, I work my arm out the best I can, but um you know it just you know, it it there again, it's you can achieve what you believe to a large degree.
30:42
Jay Setchell: And when I had some doctors meet up here at Seaton Brain and Spine in Austin, the doctor that was led the group, uh Dr.
30:52
Jay Setchell: Jim Rose, um they asked him, they were they were there were about 25 doctors from other countries too, and uh they asked him, I've got a thing in my neck called syringomyelia, which is like a a plug and a cord, like a golf ball and a hose.
31:08
Jay Setchell: It doesn't let the liquid through.
31:10
Jay Setchell: And then I've got a thing called myamalasia, which is like using a uh hairdryer on the hose, it makes it softer and thinner and makes it even tighter.
31:21
Jay Setchell: And then I've also got a thing called Brown Sicard syndrome, which is um it's too much to explain.
31:30
Jay Setchell: But that there's probably only about forty to sixty people in the United States right now out of our entire population that has all three things.
31:42
Jay Setchell: So it's very, very unusual.
31:44
Jay Setchell: But they asked Jim Rose, why do you think he's a this is this is ten years ago?
31:50
Jay Setchell: I'm not supposed to be able to move from my shoulders down, nothing.
31:53
Jay Setchell: And uh and I can still move you know my left arm anyhow.
31:58
Jay Setchell: And um he said, well, first of all, he's stubborn and he's a Marine and and he doesn't have any more sense than that, because he was army, so he had to give me a hard time.
32:09
Jay Setchell: And uh, you know, and he's just gonna keep pushing at it.
32:12
Jay Setchell: And uh they asked me, and I said, you know, I I believe that as long as I believe that I can move and I'm willing to continue to try and push ahead and not quit, I will continue to move.
32:28
Jay Setchell: But the day that I decide that I can't do it anymore, that I I'm done, I I think I'll probably be paralyzed.
32:39
Jay Setchell: So I I think it's a po I think it's mind over matter that we mentioned before.
32:46
Jeanne: Yeah, that's that's an amazing thought, though, because I was my next question to you was gonna be like, um, you're in your mid-70s and mostly paralyzed as by your own account here, and but you have no plans to stop.
33:01
Jeanne: So what's next?
33:02
Jeanne: What does J Setchell have in the works and what does the next chapter look like for you?
33:07
Jay Setchell: Well, I'm I I mean I'm part a partner, uh sizable partner in a company that we're national.
33:13
Jay Setchell: We just went international into 48 other countries.
33:16
Jay Setchell: Um I've I've got uh twins that we're raising, you know, that are eight years old.
33:21
Jay Setchell: We've had since they were three weeks old, and we adopted them at three years.
33:24
Jay Setchell: Um I've got other interests.
33:29
Jay Setchell: I I I enjoy doing the podcast.
33:31
Jay Setchell: I I would I think I'm gonna probably end up writing another book.
33:34
Jay Setchell: Only uh being something like instead of asking why, ask why not.
33:39
Jay Setchell: Because I I think that that's a a thing that people should say.
33:42
Jay Setchell: You know, it's like, you can't do that.
33:44
Jay Setchell: Yeah, why not?
33:45
Jay Setchell: You know, why why why no.
33:48
Jay Setchell: So I don't know, but I you know, and and I've I'm I'm getting requests for doing some uh speaking tours, you know, things like that.
33:57
Jay Setchell: But they there again my paralysis and pain kind of restrict that.
34:01
Jay Setchell: So I don't know whether I could do it virtual or whatnot, but I'm not gonna quit.
34:06
Jay Setchell: I'm I'll keep doing something, I'll keep looking at other other people to help and things to do and keep moving forward.
34:13
Jeanne: You've got a full agenda there, a full plan.
34:16
Jeanne: And I'm gonna throw this in because I just found it out yesterday.
34:20
Jeanne: Since we had trouble with Riverside that day, I shouldn't knock knocked them out there, but that's what happened.
34:27
Jeanne: Uh so happened.
34:30
Jeanne: Yeah, so you have a what is that car again?
34:36
Jeanne: I'm trying to find it on my phone.
34:38
Jeanne: This gorgeous, gorgeous car that you have.
34:41
Jay Setchell: It's a sixty sixty-seven Shelby GT500.
34:46
Jay Setchell: Yeah, that's in the museum.
34:48
Jay Setchell: Yep, up in it's up in uh it's in Miles Through Time Museum up in Clarksville, Georgia.
34:54
Jay Setchell: Uh where it's at.
34:56
Jay Setchell: So it's uh I've had it 30 years.
34:58
Jay Setchell: It was on it was in the 67 Shelby television ad, and Carol Shelby's wife drove it, and she had it for a year after they used the car.
35:08
Jay Setchell: They leased it back for two years.
35:10
Jay Setchell: The day after it was made, it was sold to a uh a company right across the fence because that's they had to go by the laws and stuff, and then they leased it back for two years.
35:21
Jay Setchell: And uh anyhow, so it but yeah, it's it's a gorgeous.
35:26
Jay Setchell: It's one of one.
35:28
Jay Setchell: It's one of one.
35:29
Jay Setchell: Thank you for mentioning that.
35:30
Jay Setchell: Thank you.
35:30
Jeanne: Well, you had sent me the video too, and that was Shelby in there with that that's a commercial that's embedded in that video.
35:37
Jay Setchell: Oh, and I and I can send you one with uh Carol his or Sue, Sue Shelby, his wife, driving it too down the interstate.
35:46
Jay Setchell: I've got that on video.
35:48
Jeanne: Oh, that's great.
35:48
Jeanne: I love seeing that.
35:50
Jeanne: That's just you're so multidimensional.
35:53
Jeanne: Marine now, now I see you've got this museum quality car.
35:56
Jeanne: It's just primo, it's just like beautiful green.
35:59
Jeanne: They don't that green, they haven't used that green in a long time.
36:03
Speaker: They haven't it was it was called the dark moss green.
36:08
Speaker: Let me see if I can find a absolutely gorgeous dark dark moss green, and um it was A2 Racing Green.
36:16
Speaker: In in England they call it um this is what you're oh yeah.
36:27
Speaker: I don't know if that's coming across.
36:29
Jeanne: Yeah, there you go.
36:30
Jeanne: I you can see it definitely.
36:32
Jay Setchell: There you go.
36:33
Jeanne: That is gorgeous.
36:34
Jeanne: And so you have done so much.
36:36
Jeanne: I'm just uh so impressed with everything you've done, and you're such a phenomenal person.
36:42
Jeanne: And now we've come to the part of our show when we need to transition over and play our two truths and a lie with you, Jay.
36:49
Jeanne: Are you ready to do that?
36:50
Jay Setchell: Uh not really, but we'll go over it.
36:55
Jeanne: Okay.
36:55
Jeanne: So the rules of the game are for those listening.
36:58
Jeanne: The guest has provided me with three headlines um that are about his life.
37:03
Jeanne: Two are true, one is uh lie or exaggerated truth or just some twisted facts.
37:10
Jeanne: Um, but mostly they're interesting and they give another depth to Jay.
37:15
Jeanne: So let's get over these and I'll read the headlines first, then I'll guess, and then you go over the stories, but don't tell us which one's the lie.
37:23
Jeanne: I say this to everybody every time.
37:25
Jeanne: Do not tell the lie which one's the lie till the end.
37:28
Jeanne: But then they always notoriously say, Well, that one was true, so don't do that.
37:33
Jay Setchell: Okay.
37:34
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38:46
Jeanne: So, the number one story.
38:50
Jeanne: Hmm, okay.
39:01
Jeanne: I'm beginning to think that one's true, but I'm not gonna I'm not guessing yet.
39:05
Jeanne: Number two, after dying three times and multiple other near-death experiences, Jay owes his beliefs, resilience, and so much more to his parents and God.
39:15
Jeanne: Well, that one I can believe.
39:17
Jeanne: Um so number three, at one time Jay was an astronaut.
39:22
Jeanne: All right, if I had to guess which one's alive, I'm gonna say it's number three.
39:26
Jeanne: But don't laugh.
39:29
Jeanne: You have to tell us each of those stories.
39:32
Jay Setchell: Wow.
39:33
Jeanne: Before you tell us which one's the last.
39:41
Jay Setchell: That's where I I I started flying.
39:43
Jay Setchell: When I was two weeks old, they he told me that uh they put me, they wrapped me up and stuffed me in the in the passenger seat and seat building me in and took me for an airplane.
39:52
Jay Setchell: So I I flew my whole life.
39:54
Jay Setchell: Well, I flew my I flew and you know, every my dad would say, Okay, the cattle are fed, supper's not ready, let's go up and fly for an hour.
40:04
Jay Setchell: So we go get the plane out and go fly.
40:07
Jay Setchell: But, you know, so much of the planes we had were at used for agriculture.
40:12
Jay Setchell: They were like tools, they were like a combine.
40:14
Jay Setchell: You only got them out when you used them for spraying.
40:17
Jay Setchell: We would do that quite a bit.
40:19
Jay Setchell: And uh so it just learned it was natural.
40:21
Jay Setchell: But so I had I had 800 hours before I went in the Marine Corps, and uh ended up with about 1,600 total, and I never had my pilot's license.
40:30
Jay Setchell: We didn't have you needed to go what they call through ground school, and that was about 80 miles away and 160-mile round trip.
40:37
Jay Setchell: I and then of course my you know, I was able to move my legs enough with leg braces that I could do that, and uh but when I once I broke my neck into paralysis, I couldn't do it anymore.
40:50
Jay Setchell: So 800 hours before that, and uh it was uh I enjoyed it.
40:55
Jay Setchell: I loved it.
40:56
Jay Setchell: I I've got pictures of my dad over here with the planes and stuff on the wall and stuff.
41:02
Jay Setchell: But uh and then number two, after dying and multiple and other near-death experiences, my own beliefs and resilience.
41:09
Jay Setchell: Oh, it very much.
41:10
Jay Setchell: I I mean if it if it wasn't for my parents and raising the way I was I I I I I owe so much to them.
41:20
Jay Setchell: It's it's it's it's so much.
41:23
Jay Setchell: And you know, and we did Sunday school, we never missed I had perfect attendance in Sunday school.
41:28
Jay Setchell: Not that not that I really learned a lot, I think now that I look back, but I probably did when I was you know there going through it.
41:36
Jay Setchell: And I learned the value of of there again, community, of, of the Lord, of of of the the value of God, the value of prayer, the value of so many different values.
41:49
Jay Setchell: And um and I think that that gets back to my beliefs and it it it it leaves me, you know, it's kind of like you know, uh God being or Jesus being reborn, you know, which is coming up here for Easter, you know, that uh a good time to say it, you know.
42:07
Jay Setchell: I mean, he's back living, you know, we have a living Lord and and uh that's resilience.
42:13
Jay Setchell: That's that's never giving up, never quitting.
42:16
Jay Setchell: And every every difficult thing you go through, everything you have happen, good or bad, you know, um gives you a resilience, gives you, gives you, it gives you some um, it adds to your experience, if you will, and and your belief.
42:32
Jay Setchell: So and number three, yeah, that was just a no and I just thought I put I wanted to be an astronaut, but I wasn't an astronaut.
42:40
Jay Setchell: But I but I was around back at the time, and I kind of came up with that because I remember when John Glenn launched into well, he didn't go into no John Glenn went into orbit.
42:51
Jay Setchell: Who don't know who went up first?
42:52
Jeanne: So you're telling us that one's a lie before.
42:56
Jay Setchell: Oh, I I thought you were supposed to, I was supposed to.
42:59
Jeanne: Okay at the end, but now we know you weren't an astronaut, you just wanted to be.
43:04
Jay Setchell: Well, I didn't think anybody was gonna call into your show and tell you which one was alive.
43:09
Jay Setchell: No, no, no.
43:11
Jeanne: No, just me.
43:12
Jeanne: I just see if I get it right.
43:13
Jeanne: So I think I got it right.
43:17
Jay Setchell: Well, it was, you know, we I remember laying in the back pasture with my dad and looking at the old constellations go over before the jets were flying, you know, and uh um just and though then the jets came out and it was like you know, they left the con trail and it would disappear behind them.
43:35
Jay Setchell: Which speaking of that goes back to seeing my first taxi cab.
43:39
Jay Setchell: My first time I saw a cab was up in Chicago and I was going up to uh to go into the Marine Corps.
43:46
Jay Setchell: And I we never had taxis, not not out in a little farm.
43:49
Jay Setchell: Kind of like you know, you mentioned you were raised in a very small town too, and it's it didn't have taxis.
43:56
Jay Setchell: We didn't I didn't know what that was.
43:57
Jay Setchell: Well, I mean, I I would see it because it says Taxi on top of it and they were they were yellow back in the old day, the old checkers.
44:04
Jay Setchell: The checker cards.
44:06
Jay Setchell: But um yeah, that's a thing.
44:11
Jeanne: Well that you're a multi-dimensional person, and I'm just gonna throw in here.
44:14
Jeanne: You could have put the story that you build houses.
44:17
Jeanne: My goodness.
44:18
Jeanne: Um that you build houses.
44:21
Jeanne: So you didn't even put that one in there.
44:24
Jeanne: Just but for those listening.
44:30
Jay Setchell: We build custom homes for about six years.
44:32
Jay Setchell: Did we did we did quite a few.
44:35
Jay Setchell: I mean, we did a lot actually.
44:36
Jay Setchell: And but we build them very, very well.
44:39
Jay Setchell: Also before that, another business I had was uh we did uh um graphics and trade show booths that went all around the world for people like ExxonMobil, Black and Decker was a household uh they did about three million a year with us.
44:53
Jay Setchell: And uh um uh we did Anadarco Petroleum.
44:58
Jay Setchell: We did stuff for we would do business cards for you, but we also would say you were gonna go someplace and do a a small uh trade show.
45:05
Jay Setchell: We could make a small show trade show booth, just something small.
45:08
Jay Setchell: It doesn't have to be big.
45:10
Jay Setchell: But for some of those people they'd spend oh gosh, that's been thirty, thirty years ago.
45:17
Jay Setchell: You know, they were spending hundred and fifty, two hundred thousand dollars just on a trade show booth.
45:23
Jay Setchell: And all the graphics and everything we did with it and the giveaways and such.
45:27
Jay Setchell: So yeah, but it's all interesting and and the interesting thing I I think out of it too, Jeanne, is it's always helping people.
45:34
Jay Setchell: It helps people get ahead.
45:35
Jay Setchell: It made a better thing.
45:36
Jay Setchell: And the and the building houses.
45:38
Jay Setchell: I uh the thing I like, I really enjoyed that was we we did we we build smaller homes and mid-sized homes.
45:45
Jay Setchell: We built a couple of big ones, but we built small and we built them like we would want to move into them, like they wouldn't they were ours.
45:52
Jay Setchell: So we build them with the highest degree of quality, we build them like a Marine Corps, the Marine Corps would.
45:57
Jay Setchell: We build them solid, we build them good, but 70 about 70% of the homes we got were by referral.
46:04
Jay Setchell: And then some of them we built, you know, some people we built for their their kids or for the young people we built for their parents or their grandparents, but it kind of started out for the reason you went smaller to mid-size is people that are downsizing, you know, getting out of their big homes into smaller homes, or widows and widowers, or people that have a small family are gonna start a family.
46:27
Jay Setchell: They wanted something that was really nice.
46:29
Jay Setchell: And I've been in multi-multi-million dollar homes that are junk.
46:33
Jay Setchell: They're terrible.
46:34
Jay Setchell: I don't know how they sell them.
46:38
Jay Setchell: But uh but it was and but the thing that I liked that one thing I I want to say just is is because of my paralysis and my disabilities or my my being differently abled, gave us an insight and my wife made she did all the plans, did all the drawings, uh, we did everything in-house, hundred percent in-house.
47:00
Jay Setchell: And she would design and we make maximum use of space.
47:05
Jay Setchell: So you you had if you had a 1700 square foot house, you could use sixteen hundred and ninety-five square feet of it.
47:13
Jay Setchell: There was five foot.
47:14
Jeanne: Oh, that's very nice.
47:15
Jeanne: You know.
47:16
Jeanne: Well and you had a lot of storage too, I guess.
47:18
Jay Setchell: Lots of storage.
47:18
Jay Setchell: That's what everybody screams about.
47:20
Jay Setchell: Storage and well, and garages.
47:23
Jay Setchell: I saw there the other day, somebody makes a garage.
47:26
Jay Setchell: This is including a two-car garage, 19 by 20 feet.
47:29
Jay Setchell: 19 but our garages were 24 by 27.
47:33
Jeanne: Oh, you know, I mean, we're like squeezing into ours right now.
47:36
Jeanne: Yeah, yeah.
47:37
Jeanne: It's terrible.
47:40
Jeanne: It's at least I can drive right.
47:42
Jeanne: I guess I did run into the garage door one time.
47:46
Jay Setchell: Well, and there again, a lot of people do mostly a 16-foot door.
47:50
Jay Setchell: We put in 18-foot doors.
47:51
Jay Setchell: That way you can drive your truck in here, you drive your car here, you don't have to worry about it.
47:55
Jay Setchell: And but the thing was being disabled, I I was able to know that, you know, I I would like to say we're talking and you tell me that your husband's gonna has a bum leg.
48:05
Jay Setchell: Okay, is he on a walker by chance, or do you anticipate that?
48:08
Jay Setchell: Because what we can do is we'll put a ramp in out here and we'll put a ramp in from the garage to the house.
48:14
Jay Setchell: So down the road, as as you age and as things maybe get worse, or maybe they don't, it's not gonna hurt.
48:21
Jay Setchell: And besides that, if you have a refrigerator delivered or you have somebody come visit that is that has an issue, they can use it.
48:28
Jeanne: Oh, they like that.
48:30
Jay Setchell: Yeah, and instead of door knobs, we always use uh door handles.
48:34
Jay Setchell: Because even if you've got arthritis or paralysis, or say you come home with two bags of groceries, you can take your elbow and open the door up.
48:43
Jay Setchell: You don't have to set the bag down, turn the knob, open the, you know.
48:47
Jay Setchell: So it it kind of gave us a different, it gave us an edge.
48:51
Jay Setchell: But uh we built the best.
48:53
Jay Setchell: And that our our product is our best salesman.
48:56
Jeanne: Well, you're such a you're such a wonderful person and a wonderful guest, and so talented.
49:02
Jeanne: And I'm just really thankful that you came on the show.
49:05
Jeanne: And I know people are gonna want to get in touch with you, so I'm gonna scroll down here and show uh another sheet where it shows all the information you can do as a listener to get in touch with Jay.
49:17
Jeanne: Um, he had a great um quote, which you sort of said at the beginning.
49:23
Jay Setchell: Oh, I did.
49:24
Jay Setchell: I gotta get my glasses.
49:28
Jeanne: Sweat dries, blood clots, and broken bones, he'll suck it up.
49:32
Jeanne: That sounds like a marine.
49:35
Jay Setchell: Hey, it's the way it is.
49:37
Jay Setchell: It's like, you know.
49:40
Jeanne: Yeah, well, if you want to get in touch with Jay, he's got a great website, neverquittrying.com.
49:46
Jeanne: I like that name.
49:48
Jeanne: And he's on YouTube, he's had a lot of podcasts out there.
49:51
Jeanne: He's done as as a guest and Facebook page.
49:54
Jeanne: And look for his book, a story that will stay with you forever.
50:01
Jay Setchell: I had a comment from a lady the other day.
50:05
Jay Setchell: It's in it holds, it's number one in two different areas on Amazon, so it's done pretty good.
50:11
Jay Setchell: And but I got a I got a note from a lady through my website the other day.
50:15
Jay Setchell: Uh, she's 88 years old, and she said that her son, her actually, her grandson gave her her son the book.
50:23
Jay Setchell: He read it, gave it to his mother, 88, and she said, you know, she had lost her husband when, you know, when she was 83, and she just kind of was really winding down, you know, winding down.
50:35
Jay Setchell: She said, I read that book and I I want to let you know, thank you, thank you, thank you, because you've given me a whole new idea and thought, and and and you helped me find some resilience that I didn't that I've lost.
50:49
Jeanne: Oh, that's wonderful.
50:50
Jay Setchell: Reasons why I should stay here, and now I'm planning for my 95th birthday when she's 88.
50:57
Jeanne: Amazing.
50:58
Jeanne: Yeah, so you know that's a real big compliment to you.
51:01
Jay Setchell: Well, it's a it makes you feel good.
51:03
Jay Setchell: You know, it's it's still helping people.
51:06
Jeanne: Yeah.
51:06
Jay Setchell: You know, Jeanne, that's that's the whole thing.
51:09
Jeanne: Yeah, it is all about helping people, and it looks like you've done a lot, and and I know your kids are getting a lot of help from you, and you still got a lot to they're only what, eight, you said, so you still got a lot of years left.
51:22
Jeanne: I I I'm gonna be dead before they get too far into life, but you know, you you do what you can while you can.
51:30
Jeanne: Yeah, you know, that's all you can do.
51:33
Jeanne: So well, it's been wonderful having you on.
51:36
Jeanne: And for those watching, I hope that you will tune in next week for another amazing guest.
51:42
Jeanne: Um, and this is your host, Jeanne Andersen, the Admiral of the Unexpected.
51:47
Jeanne: I wish you smooth sailing.
51:49
Jeanne: Bye for now.
51:50
Speaker: Hey, thanks, Jeanne.
51:52
Jeanne: Thank you.
51:53
Jeanne: Thanks for joining me on Project Candor, where the doors are open, the stories are unexpected, and the treasure is always real.
52:03
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52:08
Jeanne: Otherwise, I might just make you swab the deck.
52:12
Jeanne: I'm Jeanne Andersen, your Admiral of the Unexpected.
52:16
Jeanne: See you on the next voyage.