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  on the planet for sports bettors uh we're using
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  it on baseball all summer uh after the finals
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  are over uh speaking of which the finals we are
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  we're in the the meat and potatoes of the uh
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  of the finals right now and um the panther shit
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  pumped the oilers and i'm not doing okay so that's
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  how i'm doing chris how are you how are you doing
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  I'm doing all right. I mean, yeah, as someone
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  who also has, I don't have as big a future as
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  you have, but I have oilers in seven. I mean,
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  I guess you can't win in seven if you don't lose
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  three, but that was bad last night. We'll get
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  into it. I've got some takes, but we'll get into
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  it. Pacers, yet another just historic comeback
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  since the last time we've met. It's just what
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  they do. They also kind of got ran. They didn't
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  get ran, but they got, they got beat pretty handedly
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  in game two, but You know what, steal one on
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  the road. That's always your goal. Now it comes
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  back to Indy on Thursday, I think. Either Wednesday
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  or Thursday. Tomorrow. Tomorrow? Okay. I can,
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  I never remember because they space finals games
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  out way too much. It's ridiculous. But yeah,
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  doing pretty good. On a little bit of a roll,
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  Bet and Baseball, Shout, Trends Center, had raised
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  money line pretty heavy last night because they
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  dropped a A trend for the raise. I think that
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  one in like 23 straight or something like that.
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  So, um, put a, put a few units on them and it
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  was a sweat. They walked or they won in 11 innings.
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  I believe it was terrifying, but it cash shout
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  trend center. Um, but yeah, doing good. Uh, Sean,
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  how are we doing? How are you doing? I should
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  say. Yeah. Uh, I am not. Totally regretting the
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  futures oiler that I or the oilers future that
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  I put last week But we're getting it's it's getting
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  a little hot in here, you know, if you know what
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  I mean, so Last night was a rough one to wake
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  up to I'll say that since I go to bed super early,
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  but Yeah, yeah, it's a we sweating we sweating
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  yeah, I'm sweating uh not feeling great um but
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  it kind of what i'm feeling right now about the
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  oilers and the panthers is pretty much what i
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  felt from the beginning like this wasn't going
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  to be a it this might sound kind of weird but
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  in my head i'm like this isn't oilers versus
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  panthers this is essentially the oilers getting
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  over the panthers Kind of because it just feels
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  like They're just like the Panthers are just
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  going to work. Like this is this is you know,
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  this is just another day for them That's just
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  what it feels like because their team is so good
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  So it feels like the challenge is Oilers to outlast
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  meh get over The the panther that's the challenge
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  here, and I just think the Panthers are just
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  going to play their game which it it works It's
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  it's how they won last year and how they've gotten
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  to this point this year I I unfortunately did
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  not watch the game We have a friend over because
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  we're going to Bonnaroo this week, and he came
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  in early so I Completely forgot that the game
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  was happening until it was over when I was in
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  bed but I did see that there was a bunch of rough
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  stuff. Chris, were you able to watch the game?
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  Yes, I did. I watched half of it. I watched the
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  latter half of it. So it was pretty much what
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  it was. I turned it on. I saw I turned on right
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  after Pantage went up 3 -1, like literally like
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  the second after the puck dropped for after they
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  went up 3 -1. And it was it was brutal. The Oilers
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  had no interest in playing hockey in the third
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  period. They were just fighting and just taking
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  cheap shots at anybody wearing red. I was curious
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  about these numbers, so I looked it up this afternoon.
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  Would you care to guess, just throw out a number,
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  how many shots on goal the Oilers had in the
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  third period, just the third period? Six. A little
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  bit more than that. Eight. Eight, yes. Look at
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  me. Just care to guess how many penalties they
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  had. Eight. Not penalty minutes, penalties. Eight.
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  Ten. Shit. Five of those were misconducts. They
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  did not care whatsoever. They were only down
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  three. Like, yes, that's bad. They were down
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  three. They were down three going into the third.
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  In the third? Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. And then they
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  just stopped playing hockey. They were just either
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  fighting or just whacking the guy's ankles or
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  just... trying to mow people down. It was, it
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  was, it was rough to watch. Like nobody like,
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  yeah, Corey Perry was just doing his shit. And
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  then guys were just either chirping at fans get
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  after they got kicked out or it was embarrassing,
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  honestly. And I think it's just poor leadership
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  on the team, coaches and players. I, I don't
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  want to declare them dead because it's only two
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  one. But. It was it was a rough and it was really
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  the last five minutes of the second period, too.
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  They were kind of they weren't doing as much,
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  but it was a lot of just not a lot of hockey,
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  just kind of trying to show how tough you are.
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  And I if they don't get over themselves, it's
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  it could be a it'll be a rough game for and the
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  series will probably be over. So that's that's
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  my take I'm not declaring them done because they
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  could flush the tape come out game four I mean
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  it could be even going back to Edmonton and that's
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  kind of what you want but If I'll say they got
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  to get their shit together think that's they
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  they got to get their shit Yeah, I'll I'll say
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  this If you're acting like this in game three
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  What are you doing? It's just game three like
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  You're already you've already won one game like
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  at best. They're gonna be up one on you It's
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  not it's not worth it to to you know bitch and
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  moan and fucking kill people on the ice you know
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  or squirt water bottles from across the across
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  the bench and That was a second period. I know
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  and get it and did he get a major? He got a major
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  for that. I'm pretty sure I don't I think he
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  did, yeah. I was just looking up third period
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  stats. But yeah, if my memory serves me correctly,
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  I believe I think he got a major for for misconduct
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  and any and what's it called unsportsmanlike
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  conduct, you know, and like if you're doing this
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  in game three and you're you're down to two,
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  two goals. What are you doing, dude? It was very
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  much still a game like if they were. Five one
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  going into the third. Okay. I think it's bad,
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  but I get it. Like you don't want to, you want
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  to show you have life. It was still very much
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  a hockey game in the third, at least the early
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  stages of the third period. And they just stopped
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  caring. It was, I'd never seen anything like
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  that in a cut fog. And if I'm being honest, they
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  really got it. They either flush the tape and
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  just say, you know what? We, we, we got a little
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  ahead of ourselves. We got a little hot headed.
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  Let's just regroup for game three or game four,
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  or you really just take a long look in the mirror
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  and be like, what the fuck happened? Cause I
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  don't think their coach is very coach personally.
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  Um, but I think that was just, it really reflected
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  poorly on everyone who has like a voice on that
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  team. Unfortunately, one of those people is probably
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  Corey Perry. So that probably was the, I had
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  something to do with it. But, um, yeah, yeah,
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  it was, it was bad. Just to backtrack, just a
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  hair. I completely forgot about the Corey Perry
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  curse before placing this future. Completely
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  forgot. Just didn't even cross my mind. I think
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  we talked about it at some point. I don't think
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  so. It might have been earlier in the playoffs
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  when discussing the Euler's future. I mean, they're
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  only down one game and I know. Yeah, but it's
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  it feels like a lot more right? Yeah, it feels
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  like it feels like Panthers are up three one
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  like but they're really up just to one but I
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  Am I think there's essentially two schools of
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  thought when you when you're thinking about the
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  rough stuff In the last game The first one being
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  exactly what you guys are saying, which is you
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  know At least at the start of the first period
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  the third period it was very much still a game
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  Let's go play but I think the the second school
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  thought is They they might have gone into the
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  third period and just been like hey, we don't
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  have it today Let's fuck shit up Let's show them.
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  We're not some baby back bitches and and and
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  and enforce our our mentality onto them, you
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  know, but at the same time, the beginning of
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  the third, it still was very much attainable.
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  So yeah, that's a I mean, I feel like that's
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  that part is kind of I wouldn't say yeah, I was
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  about to say par for the course, but it's not
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  necessarily par for the course because I mean,
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  you know, Just play the game, but at the same
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  time it is kind of like the oilers are falling
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  into the trap because Florida is such a physical
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  team and They I mean they have three Three dudes
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  that their whole MO is just getting under your
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  skin. That's Matt Kachuk Marshann and Bennett
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  and like those guys just fuck shit up the entire
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  game, and they score. I don't know if you guys
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  saw, but Bennett had like a shift that would
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  be titled The Shift, where he just knocks a dude
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  out of his socks, mid -ice, super clean hit,
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  smashes into a guy on the boards, squeezes the
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  puck out, goes to one of his teammates, he books
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  it, down center ice. He gives it to him on the
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  breakaway and he scores. And I'm like, holy shit.
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  That would be cool if that happened for the Oilers.
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  But I could be wrong. I'll have to look it up
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  or one of us could. I think that the initial
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  hit he had was on Conor McDavid. It wasn't on
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  Conor McDavid. I think someone hit McDavid later
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  in the game and not like drilled them, but like
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  a big enough hit for like, Oh, for superstar,
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  that's rough. Yeah. Um, it was on Vasily Pakolson.
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  Okay. Um, yeah, that guy. Yeah. But going back
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  to what you said about how, like they, it very,
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  it didn't really feel like, Hey, we're going
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  to go out there and we're going to show them
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  like, Hey, we're not, we're not just going to
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  roll over and take it. Like we're going to fight
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  back. It felt like that's what their mindset
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  was, but it very much came off of you're falling
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  like again what you said you're falling into
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  the trap because the Panthers like they fought
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  back a couple of times there was a couple there
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  was one actual fight there are a few like skirmishes
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  but for the most part it was just Edmonton cheap
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  shot this guy gets ejected floor just like fucking
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  okay like we'll take the power play yeah thanks
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  and we'll score a couple more goals um they had
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  their top power play unit on with like four minutes
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  left in the game so it was very much like hey
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  fuck you like Get as many guys ejected as you
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  want. We're just going to keep playing hockey.
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  So it very much felt like Florida was like, okay,
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  like this is all part of the plan. We're trying
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  to piss you off. We're trying to get you acting
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  like little cry babies. And then we're just going
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  to swirl goals. So it, it, it, it feels like
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  they're in trouble. Yeah. Some, I mean, someone
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  had to go up to one, you know? Um, so it, uh,
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  But yeah, it just feels like a bad loss is just
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  Kills you I mean coming coming from from us like
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  I Don't know. I don't know about your guys's
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  mentality with the predators, but it felt like
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  every time We lost big in a playoff game. It
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  was like alright. Well, this is over Like this
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  is we don't we don't even have a prayer. We cannot
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  mentally come back from this but I mean They
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  but the Oilers I mean they are I Would go as
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  too far to say is they're more mentally strong
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  than the Nashville Predators. I'll say that I
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  don't think that's a reach Backs back cup finals.
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  Yeah, I think they're yeah. Yeah, I agree with
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  that statement So it's it is kind of like all
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  right They they might have well just have gone
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  to the third period like hey throw this one out
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  We're uh, we're taking the next one Yeah, so
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  and I mean this is like the same team that came
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  back from oh three to force game seven Last year
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  and they they started the playoffs this year
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  against the Kings in the first round and lost
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  the two first two games and so it's kind of like
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  I don't know. It's like the my brain tells me
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  not to worry but Like my heart is like you need
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  to worry like Well, I I would also say that Just
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  looking back to the Western Conference finals
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  with the game one against the Stars like They
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  didn't get blown out as bad as they did last
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  night But they they lost 6 -3 but I would say
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  they got They got their shit handed to him game
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  one won four in a row, one in five. I think they
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  could come back from just about anything. I mean,
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  we said it last week and I don't think it's a
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  trend. I think McDavid and Dreisaitl need to
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  win one. They need it. They mentally need it.
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  They've been here. They don't know. Their windows
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  gonna be open as long as they're on the team
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  as we said last week but I Don't know if they
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  can go back to back to back cup final appearances,
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  you know, that's that's hard Yeah, it's tough
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  and not win one. Yeah and not win one. Yeah the
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  Buffalo Bills of the NHL Yeah, some are saying
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  Well, the lightning went back to back to back
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  but only one two of them Only only yeah I'm just
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  saying. It's tough. Two pesky cups. Well, one
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  of them was the COVID. One of them was the COVID
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  cup. We will asterisk. And then one of them was
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  adjusted divisions. So another asterisk? A half
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  asterisk, at best. They played one like actual
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  cup final and they lost. I mean, they played
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  who they played. Oh, yeah. Yeah, not taking anything
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  away from the players, I'm just saying. Astro's
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  and a half on three cups or three cup finals.
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  Who's to say? Wait, no, that wasn't the COVID
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  year. They won in the bubble and then they won
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  the year after For some reason I think the stars
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  won in 2020 They they went to the final and they
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  lost to the lightning. I thought they lost to
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  the Canadians That was the Canadians lost to
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  the lightning the year after the 21 Okay, the
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  adjusted the adjusted Okay. We had literally
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  this exact conversation on three weeks. All right.
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  Well, sorry. Sorry, guys. No, it's just funny.
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  We spent so much time like the stars never won
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  a cup and then Charles is like, I could have
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  sworn the stars won one. Well, the stars have
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  won a cup. I won't say that they haven't won
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  a cup. I just met in that time period is what
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  I was talking about. In 99. So That's what you
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  remember Well, I mean you may not remember that
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  but I don't remember that but they have won a
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  cup is what I said Yeah long time ago But yeah,
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  I mean Vibes are down but You know, it's not
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  about our vibes. It's about the players vibes
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  so depends on how they They they choose to move
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  on from here, but um, but yeah, so That's hockey
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  talk There's really not really a lot else going
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  on budget down, but we uh, I Hope so All right
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  moving on to the NBA I the Pacers somehow Came
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  back from a another huge deficit in game one
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  Which was wild? Hot take I don't know if we want
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  to get into this specific aspect of it, but It
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  does kind of feed into the nothing no NBA game
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  matters until the fourth quarter narrative which
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  I Don't know if you're the NBA you really don't
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  want That narrative, but I'll even I'll even
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  go as far to say no in no basketball game matters.
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  Until like the final two minutes. No, not college.
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  I would disagree. No, no, not college. You get
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  into March Madness. Yeah, yeah, but those games
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  are usually close. Rarely do you see exactly
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  that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but it has to be
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  close up until that point. The NBA, it's like.
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  So the fourth quarter team can be down 25 and
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  you're like, okay, they could very much still
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  win this basketball game. Okay, that's a fair
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  point. But what I'm saying is no matter the score,
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  it doesn't matter until like the final two minutes
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  of the game. Definitely. Even if you're neck
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  and neck, like, or if you're 20 points behind
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  the final 22 minutes of the game is the game.
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  That's the game. That's everything on the line.
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  Yes, but that's what that's what I'm saying.
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  Yeah, I get that. But it's definitely more prevalent
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  in the NBA because I sure I watched like five
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  or six NBA games a year and I watched as much
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  college basketball. No, but I'm saying, but I
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  watched as much college basketball as humanly
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  possible. And the times I'll look up on like,
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  you know, have like a graphic on an NBA game
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  is like 11 run in the last minute and a half.
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  And then my college basketball brain is like,
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  how the fuck are you scoring 11 points in a minute
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  now? That's insane. It's a step three effect.
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  There'll be times when I'm watching, like, granted,
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  bad teams, but college basketball, I don't say
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  like six run in the last three and a half minutes.
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  Yeah, so I get it. I got you. I got you. OK.
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  It's just everyone is so fucking like everyone
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  is amazing. I know it's professional so obviously
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  but it's still like Obviously because I don't
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  watch a lot of it sometimes I'll be like this
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  guy's like the AIDS man off the bench. How is
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  he like? Possibly the best player on the floor
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  right now. It's it's crazy Mm -hmm Chris I'm
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  gonna I'm gonna let you take the floor Give us
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  a state of the union state of the vibes. I Mean
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  like I said Your goal was to win at least one
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  in Oklahoma City and they did it again in spectacular
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  dramatic fashion Yeah that game two wasn't great
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  in terms of like it wasn't particularly close
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  like Oklahoma City It was pretty much what game
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  one looked like it was going to be the entire
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  time It's just Oklahoma City wins by I remember
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  what the finals. I think the final score was
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  closer Excuse me, then what the game really was
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  Really my only nitpick with game two, Rick Carlisle
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  pulled starters down 15 with like four minutes
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  left. That's like, how can you do that with this
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  team? Like you've seen four historic comebacks
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  with this on this run alone. And you're like,
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  ah, let's just wave the white flag with multiple.
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  It wasn't like a minute left. It was like three
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  or four. And they've got these random white guys
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  I've never seen before in there. I'm like, wait
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  a minute. This isn't the Pacers I know. So that
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  was the only thing that was like a little bit
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  concerning. But I mean, like I said, you split,
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  you split against Oklahoma City at home or on
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  the road, I should say. Win one in Indy. You
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  have to win one at home and we'll go from there.
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  But yeah, I think. Stay the state of the union
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  for the Pacers as a I'll speak for all Pacers
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  nation. Everything's fine Just kind of I don't
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  know it's kind of where you expect where you
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  where you want to be but You're also a little
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  uncomfortable which because you're such a big
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  underdog and it's even but Win one in Indy and
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  we'll go from there Okay Don't think we talked
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  about this last week, but I saw that the Pacers
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  were like The third team to be favored or to
• 24:51
  not to be underdogs by more than plus 900 to
• 24:59
  win The finals yes their opponent yeah, I Get
• 25:08
  it because he was like They were probably just
• 25:12
  on paper the best team all year and they've been
• 25:15
  Other than like the nuggets. They've just been
• 25:17
  beating the shit out of everyone. So I get it
• 25:20
  that was a little disrespectful, but That I just
• 25:24
  especially because it's small market team. Nobody
• 25:27
  really Pays attention to them. So I get I got
• 25:32
  it. But yeah, so they so you're saying They're
• 25:36
  on the down low like they they've been keeping
• 25:38
  quiet Like, Oh yeah, a hundred percent. Like,
• 25:41
  I mean, there were a four seat coming in. That's
• 25:43
  not like, this was like a team, like they made
• 25:45
  it to the conference finals last year, kind of
• 25:47
  on a similar run where they weren't like making
• 25:50
  these crazy comebacks, but it was like, they
• 25:52
  very much just got white hot and went to the
• 25:55
  finals. Granted they lost us. They got swept
• 25:57
  by the Celtics, but this was a team that was
• 26:00
  very much like, you don't really pay it. Like
• 26:03
  nobody watches, like patrons don't get primetime
• 26:05
  games. So nobody really Thinks about them. They're
• 26:09
  kind of like the Titans when the Titans had I
• 26:12
  Mean, it's not exactly the same when the Titans
• 26:14
  had the one seed It was like who the fuck are
• 26:17
  these guys? But then when you look at it, it's
• 26:19
  like oh shit They're actually like a really good
• 26:20
  basketball team. So it was kind of like sort
• 26:23
  of that similar vibe of yeah, they're very much
• 26:27
  like kind of Just sneaking by at least in the
• 26:30
  regular season postseason pretty much ever since
• 26:33
  the Cav series everyone's been paying attention
• 26:34
  to him because they're just doing the impossible
• 26:38
  seemingly every other night yeah okay okay okay
• 26:44
  yes um yeah cool um i mean i really don't even
• 26:51
  have anything to to add i mean just because like
• 26:54
  i didn't realize the finals games are so spaced
• 26:56
  out until we didn't have a we didn't have sports
• 26:59
  on one night and i was like what what am i supposed
• 27:04
  to do Yeah, having, having two, two days between
• 27:09
  games, like when there's not travel involved
• 27:11
  is pretty ridiculous. Yeah. It'd be different
• 27:16
  like with the travel, but like Oklahoma isn't
• 27:21
  even that far away from Indy. It's, it is drive.
• 27:25
  Like it's a long drive, but it's, I think it's
• 27:29
  like a 10 hour, 11 hour drive. So it's like a
• 27:32
  four hour flight. If that. Yeah. So it's probably
• 27:37
  not even that. It's probably like two. Probably.
• 27:40
  I think, yeah, to have the three days with the
• 27:44
  travel, I get whatever. But just because you
• 27:48
  you always have that regardless of distance,
• 27:50
  but to have it the same amount of days with and
• 27:53
  without travel is ridiculous. Well, then travel
• 27:58
  from Edmonton to damn near Miami. Oh, I mean,
• 28:04
  just saying. Yeah. That has to be that's got
• 28:07
  to be up there with Farthest it's gotta be yeah,
• 28:11
  I think that was a thing back and forth. I think
• 28:14
  that was the thing last year they said it was
• 28:17
  I don't know if it was the farthest but it's
• 28:19
  definitely one of the farthest like Point a to
• 28:23
  point B of two like arenas. Yeah, there's gotta
• 28:27
  be Cuz I'm thinking I'm like, okay I'm taking
• 28:32
  the the Western Most team the western most team
• 28:37
  is is Vancouver and when they went to the cup
• 28:40
  final They played Boston Yeah, that was pretty
• 28:45
  far yeah, so that that I mean I'm no geography
• 28:48
  expert, but that's probably out I Don't know
• 28:52
  if that's further or not, but it's and close
• 28:56
  yeah That's got to be like a Like a seven -hour
• 29:02
  flight That's a rough flight. Oh Yeah, I mean
• 29:07
  it's coast to coast. So yeah, that's yeah, that's
• 29:10
  brutal I Think Edmonton and in Florida might
• 29:15
  be Might be farther just because like it might
• 29:20
  only be east -west But also like he'd have to
• 29:23
  go all the way down So I think that might be
• 29:27
  like miles traveled the farthest but That that
• 29:34
  might have been yeah, I think you're right Chris
• 29:35
  that might have been a thing that They were talking
• 29:39
  about last year, which is why we're not really
• 29:41
  hearing about it this year Well, yeah Let's see
• 29:49
  what else that's been geography talk yeah, that's
• 29:53
  a that's geography Let me think I mean there's
• 29:57
  not really much else going on in in sports that
• 30:04
  I know of off the top of my head. Oh, so I looked
• 30:08
  it up. The furthest distance between two teams
• 30:11
  in the NHL Stanley Cup finals is 2 ,541 miles
• 30:16
  with the Edmonton Oilers and the Florida Panthers.
• 30:20
  Boom. There we go. That is the furthest finals
• 30:27
  they were probably ever going to get. Ever. Unless
• 30:31
  Vancouver plays for the Panthers, which, yeah.
• 30:36
  So I was, that's what I was doing. I was on my
• 30:39
  phone. I was trying to map out and yeah, just
• 30:42
  like right before you said that, it was like,
• 30:44
  yeah, driving it's almost two full days. Like
• 30:50
  it's one day and 20 hours if you don't stop.
• 30:55
  Yeah. All right, sorry. We're actually continuing
• 30:58
  geography talk. Chris was running through some
• 31:03
  equations. I was just typing in Edmonton, Sunrise,
• 31:08
  Florida, and Google Maps. Now put in if you walked.
• 31:15
  I want to see what that is. That's got to be
• 31:18
  like three weeks. Oh, months probably. Doesn't
• 31:23
  give I bet it's I bet it's under a month. Oh,
• 31:25
  here it is. Yes. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Oh,
• 31:32
  walking options are not available. It says walking
• 31:34
  directions not available. I was going to ask
• 31:36
  Will to go over a month or under a month to be
• 31:40
  the tiebreaker. Oh, I'd say that's months. I
• 31:43
  would say multiple. I think about like people
• 31:46
  traveling on like the like manifest destiny.
• 31:50
  That was in the same country. And that was months.
• 31:55
  All I know is on my computer, I could go from,
• 31:59
  I could travel the Oregon Trail within a day.
• 32:04
  What do you mean on your computer? You never
• 32:06
  played the Oregon Trail, like on your computer,
• 32:09
  like the game? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I thought
• 32:12
  you meant like, yeah, it was very much, yeah.
• 32:15
  I thought you were talking about like Oculus
• 32:17
  or some shit. That's my bad. Yeah. All right.
• 32:22
  Oh Man, you ruined my joke. I did. Oh good. Oh
• 32:26
  good. I did. Oh Hey, good job. Hey, I it wasn't
• 32:32
  but it's okay Man, I sucked at that game Everyone
• 32:36
  did game sucked ass It was hard always got dysentery
• 32:43
  My wife kept dying is it Honestly one of the
• 32:50
  more realistic video games ever created Some
• 32:54
  are some are saying I mean you always fucking
• 32:58
  die and I Don't know the exact numbers, but a
• 33:02
  lot of people died a lot of people did die so
• 33:05
  minus the cannibalism I don't know if they had
• 33:07
  that in the game Yeah, I don't know bring it
• 33:12
  back bring Oregon Trail back remaster for the
• 33:16
  ps5 To produce by Bethesda just make it a fallout
• 33:24
  type of like shooter style I Dabble I dabble
• 33:34
  if it was the PlayStation free game in the month.
• 33:37
  I'd probably I'd probably dabble on it. I probably
• 33:40
  just get dysentery again Probably yeah Anyway,
• 33:46
  that's the game dysentery, the game. That was
• 33:54
  the original title didn't go over too well in
• 33:56
  the pitch room. And then one guy was just like,
• 33:59
  what if we just called it the Oregon trade? Genius
• 34:04
  Johnson. You're a genius. Granted. Give this
• 34:12
  guy an award. I'm curious. Just switching topics
• 34:16
  real quick. I'm curious. Because I've seen some
• 34:20
  outrage on the internet about the NBA courts
• 34:27
  on TV specifically They've got this really shit
• 34:33
  graphic of the the trophy and On the court itself.
• 34:38
  I'm pretty sure there's no NBA finals like printed
• 34:42
  on the wood at all and Apparently Adam Silver
• 34:47
  says he's gonna bring it back next season, but
• 34:50
  I don't know why they got rid of that in the
• 34:53
  first place. So, um, Chris, do you have some
• 34:57
  thoughts? Yeah, it's fucking stupid. It's fucking
• 35:01
  stupid. It makes no fucking sense. Okay. Like
• 35:04
  this is, this is a stupid thing to get super
• 35:07
  pissed off over, but like, I don't get how you
• 35:11
  can like the, it's just the court. the TV product,
• 35:15
  it felt like I was watching a. March regular
• 35:18
  season game, there was nothing special whatsoever.
• 35:21
  They didn't have like finals patches on the jerseys.
• 35:24
  There was nothing to differentiate this game
• 35:27
  from a regular season game whatsoever. Even in
• 35:31
  the playoffs, they have playoffs on like the
• 35:34
  baseline or some out of bounds line. They had
• 35:37
  nothing in game one to make it feel like it was
• 35:41
  anything. anything more than a regular season
• 35:44
  game. And then game two, they're like, okay,
• 35:47
  guys, we heard you. We'll put the O 'Leary O
• 35:50
  'Brien trophy back on the wood. And it's just
• 35:52
  this shitty little clip art on like, you get
• 35:56
  two on each side. It looks real bad. It was worse.
• 36:01
  Yeah, it looks real, it looks real bad. It looks
• 36:03
  like some intern threw that together, like real
• 36:06
  fast. like and honestly if it was some intern
• 36:08
  being like hey none of my bosses give a shit
• 36:10
  about this i'm just gonna take matters in my
• 36:12
  own hands and give it my best shot i commend
• 36:15
  that it probably wasn't the case but if so because
• 36:18
  that's what it looked like i come into that guy
• 36:21
  if some billionaire was sitting in his ivory
• 36:25
  tower being like fine give him a shitty like
• 36:28
  For EP like Larry O 'Brien on the court that'll
• 36:32
  shut him up like I can go to hell By billionaire
• 36:36
  you meet that you mean the bald man that runs
• 36:38
  the NBA Well, see it's like I want to blame him,
• 36:41
  but he doesn't run ESPN. So I don't know. Oh
• 36:44
  true Yeah, you're right. Like I want to be mad
• 36:46
  at Adam Silver But it's like I'm mad. He didn't
• 36:50
  do anything initially But I'm now mad at ESPN.
• 36:53
  It's like who who put this? cat turd of an NBA
• 36:57
  trophy logo on my court. It was ridiculous. I
• 37:01
  turned it on. I was like, this is... I wish they
• 37:04
  hadn't done anything, honestly. Yeah, it looks
• 37:10
  real bad. And I will say that if it is some intern
• 37:16
  that is just doing their best, you know what?
• 37:20
  You're doing a good job, bud. For what you're
• 37:23
  doing, you're doing a good job. but make him
• 37:25
  president of the company. He deserves it. Yeah.
• 37:29
  You, you are trying your best and I do commend
• 37:32
  you for that, but I know that's not the case.
• 37:36
  Oh, we all know that's not the case. It's what
• 37:39
  it looked like. That's the only reason. Yeah.
• 37:41
  Yeah. It's, it is what it looks like. Yeah, that
• 37:45
  was awful. And like, I know there have been years
• 37:49
  past where they didn't have anything on the court
• 37:50
  and that's bullshit, but like Whatever it is
• 37:53
  what it is the fact that you didn't even have
• 37:55
  like a patch on the jersey like hey It's the
• 37:59
  NBA finals like let's act like this somewhat
• 38:02
  matters Here's a patch in case you forgot and
• 38:06
  the fact that I mean This I mean who knows if
• 38:10
  this is sure not I feel like if the if a team
• 38:12
  from Los Angeles or a team from New York Or a
• 38:15
  team from Boston was involved. This wouldn't
• 38:17
  be the case. Yeah, but it's two teams in middle
• 38:20
  America that no one really watches well that's
• 38:24
  the thing like that's the thing like no no patch
• 38:27
  at all or I don't know if they have them now
• 38:31
  do it I didn't see a jersey patch in game two
• 38:33
  and that's okay I can see how that could be somewhat
• 38:36
  harder to do as opposed to just throwing some
• 38:39
  bullshit clip art out on a sure however they
• 38:43
  do it but but it's really not it's really it's
• 38:45
  really not that hard because that's what these
• 38:51
  Back rooms do is just make just just make jerseys
• 38:55
  and just sew the names on everything and just
• 38:58
  sew a patch on a jersey is easy and also like
• 39:03
  I know you've got some small market teams in
• 39:05
  these finals, but Dude, that's merch That's merch
• 39:10
  you sell like, you know Like you buy you buy
• 39:15
  a steam on patch that you fucking iron on to
• 39:19
  your jersey that you already have You got your
• 39:22
  Roy Hibbert jersey on, you fucking steam that
• 39:25
  shit on. You know what I'm like, that's what
• 39:28
  I'm saying. Like, like just just sell like a
• 39:31
  steam on patch. It's like if you've got the fans
• 39:34
  wearing them, but the players aren't wearing
• 39:36
  them, those fans aren't going to buy. No, you
• 39:41
  know what I mean? Like they will look like bootleg.
• 39:44
  Yeah. It's that is. And just the TV presentation
• 39:50
  also, like for game one, I'm not saying I have
• 39:53
  to have this for every game, but like game one
• 39:55
  and like elimination games, you should have the
• 39:58
  player intros. You should have the national anthem.
• 40:00
  You should have like all this stuff. Like the
• 40:04
  All -Star game gets, and I know it's apples and
• 40:07
  oranges, but the All -Star game got gets infinitely
• 40:11
  more pomp and circumstance than game one of the
• 40:15
  NBA finals this year. And that's a joke. Because
• 40:19
  nobody gives a fuck about the all -star No, I
• 40:24
  know Adam Silver ESPN really just everyone and
• 40:27
  Mike Breen is just sleepwalking through this
• 40:31
  thing Like he's great Historically, but I he's
• 40:36
  making and I again, I don't watch much NBA. So
• 40:39
  I Take this with a grain of salt bang guy. Yeah,
• 40:44
  and he didn't give a bang to Halliburton's game
• 40:47
  -winning shot in game one And then when asked
• 40:49
  about it, he was like, Oh, I only do it for threes.
• 40:51
  And it's like, okay, whatever. That's bullshit,
• 40:52
  but okay. Um, who get your, do you do this? Like
• 40:56
  you're the inventor of it. Do whatever the fuck
• 40:59
  you want. As long as it's like a layup, who cares?
• 41:02
  And then he does it for Halliburton's first three
• 41:04
  of the game and game one, like four minutes in,
• 41:07
  he's like, Oh, I owed him one. So I had to do
• 41:08
  it. It's like, you're, you're patronizing at
• 41:11
  this point. Just stop. So, and then. And I know
• 41:17
  this is like kind of beating a dead horse, but
• 41:18
  Doris Burke and Richard Jefferson were terrible.
• 41:23
  To have them in the finals is awful. So it's
• 41:27
  really just everything that ESPN has done to
• 41:31
  present these two games has been terrible. Yeah,
• 41:37
  it's really - Richard Jefferson is bad? What
• 41:39
  was that? Richard Jefferson is bad? I mean, I
• 41:43
  don't want to say he's bad. He has been bad in
• 41:46
  like the couple games I watched, but it doesn't
• 41:49
  feel like a big game. He's not a big game voice.
• 41:53
  Like Mike Breen is a big game voice, but he doesn't
• 41:56
  endorse Burke is like, I mean, she fine, I guess.
• 42:01
  But it just everything about this feels just
• 42:03
  like a regular season. Both of these have felt
• 42:07
  like regular season games aside from the shitty
• 42:09
  clip art in the game, too. And I mean, yeah,
• 42:12
  ESPN did a dogshit job of making this feel like
• 42:16
  the most important series of the season. Yeah.
• 42:23
  The, uh, the series is like, Hey, this is, uh,
• 42:27
  uh, this is it. And they're just like, yeah,
• 42:31
  who cares? Like, yeah, we saw them, the NBA Twitter
• 42:36
  send there. We're going to watch. So why do we
• 42:37
  even have to worry about this? Nobody cares.
• 42:40
  Let's just get through it. Maybe the Lakers will
• 42:42
  be good next season. Golly dude, uh Speaking
• 42:50
  of the Lakers. I saw one of the NBA free agents.
• 42:54
  I cannot remember. I'm so sorry. I cannot remember.
• 42:57
  This is such good podcasting but There's like
• 43:02
  a pretty notable free agent that's probably gonna
• 43:05
  sign with the Lakers Hmm Notable free agent that's
• 43:11
  gonna sign with the so it's a it's a white Hmm
• 43:16
  a white is it Tengis I think it no, I think it's
• 43:20
  Stephen Adams. Oh I mean, he's even Adams. I
• 43:24
  love that guy. Yeah, he's like a I think that's
• 43:29
  like sinner at this point. Well, I think he's
• 43:31
  like one of their big targets, but You know,
• 43:34
  he's probably gonna thrive in LA. I Love that
• 43:38
  guy. Honestly, go ring -chasing doesn't I Mean
• 43:44
  he doesn't but like he's such like a uh i was
• 43:50
  about to say calming presence he i mean he he
• 43:53
  kind of is he can be like he doesn't really start
• 43:57
  fights or nothing um he more of just like holds
• 44:01
  people back he didn't start a fight when drum
• 44:03
  on green kicked him in the dick yeah that's a
• 44:08
  uh that's a good on him i guess uh yeah I'm saying
• 44:15
  he's got even 10. Yeah. Yeah. And he's, uh, he's
• 44:19
  from New Zealand. Yeah. Uh, he has not won any
• 44:23
  championships, Chris. I didn't think so, but
• 44:25
  he's bounced around the last couple of years.
• 44:27
  I didn't know if he, uh, he did win the, uh,
• 44:30
  in BL championship in 2011 with the, uh, Wellington
• 44:34
  saints in New Zealand in the same year. He was
• 44:38
  also named the rookie of the year. So go for
• 44:41
  him. 2011 year Steven Adams. Right before the
• 44:47
  world went to shit. Good on him. Yeah. It's so
• 44:55
  funny. That was so long ago. Fuck, dude. 14 years
• 44:58
  ago. Yeah. I'm only thinking about that. It's
• 45:02
  kind of funny when you look up Steven Adams and
• 45:05
  then like you see like when he's like a rookie
• 45:07
  and then like the next year, like he has a beard
• 45:10
  and long hair. He looks like a completely different
• 45:13
  human. And it's and it's like, are these guys
• 45:17
  the same? These two the same guy? Kind of wild.
• 45:20
  I don't know. I feel like I've been that big
• 45:23
  of a. I don't know. I guess I could just send
• 45:27
  it to you. I was just going to put it to the
• 45:29
  camera. But I'll send it to you so you can put
• 45:32
  it in together. There's like a side by side thing
• 45:36
  on Google, and it's it's pretty shocking. Yeah.
• 45:40
  He came back with tattoos too. That dude's tatted.
• 45:48
  He's awesome, I love that guy. He earned those,
• 45:53
  apparently. According to those customary... zero
• 45:59
  research, but... He killed people. He's a warrior.
• 46:07
  Those are warrior tattoos, right? Think so he's
• 46:12
  got the one the rock has sure See that's what?
• 46:18
  Earlier when we're like earlier like two seconds
• 46:20
  ago before will was like he's from New Zealand
• 46:22
  pardon me was like Isn't he like Samoan? Technically
• 46:26
  yeah, yeah He's a he is of Polynesian descent
• 46:34
  But he's also a kiwi, but yeah cool so he's okay
• 46:42
  He's he's both like he has one parent from each
• 46:45
  or yes, you know, like when I can I know he's
• 46:49
  You know, like when a different ethnicity like
• 46:53
  breeds with another ethnicity Yeah, for example
• 46:58
  if you're if you're black if your mom's black
• 47:00
  and your dad's white and Then you come out mixed.
• 47:04
  You know how that works. Okay, so that's what
• 47:06
  I was asking I didn't know like I was going to
• 47:11
  hand up. Be kind of a dumb moment. I didn't know
• 47:13
  if like parts of New Zealand or like maybe there's
• 47:16
  like a Polynesian culture in New Zealand. I don't
• 47:18
  know. I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There's
• 47:21
  been but no, I mean, it was a dumb question.
• 47:23
  So I don't blame you. Well, but yeah, but but
• 47:28
  I'm sorry. I mean, so I was going to say that's
• 47:32
  a scary combination of people, Polynesian and
• 47:35
  Australian, essentially. It's like a super soldier.
• 47:39
  Yeah. Yeah. He would punch you. Bad ass motherfucker.
• 47:43
  Yeah. New Zealanders do not like, uh, Aussies.
• 47:50
  Yeah. They're adjacent though. Like in terms
• 47:52
  of culture, they're, they're kind of not actually,
• 47:55
  are they not? No, they're, they're actually like,
• 47:58
  they're, they're kind of opposite. Are they more?
• 48:00
  Australians are crazy. Are New Zealanders not
• 48:04
  like they kind of give off that same, at least
• 48:07
  Steven Adams. gives off that same like when you
• 48:10
  see like the well maybe that's his other half
• 48:13
  so then what are we talking about if his other
• 48:20
  half is australian adjacent then what but it's
• 48:24
  a different australia it's a different adjacent
• 48:27
  it's a different i don't i don't want to say
• 48:30
  uh that's why i thought he was like kind of he
• 48:34
  like i thought he was samoan like for a second.
• 48:37
  I was like, wait a minute, he has those tattoos.
• 48:40
  He's a badass. I don't know if that's a stereotype.
• 48:46
  I feel like it's a good stereotype to have. But
• 48:49
  Australia is a continent of criminals. It's a
• 48:53
  penile colony sent from England and other other
• 48:57
  nationalities. So they are all criminals. Well,
• 49:01
  then how did come at me, Australia? More geography
• 49:04
  with three for the money. How did New Zealand
• 49:06
  get started then? That's right there. Is it not
• 49:09
  just kind of the same origins? No, they they
• 49:13
  are. This is geography again. They are. I think
• 49:17
  they are native to the surrounding islands of
• 49:22
  the all in Polynesian like like that type of
• 49:27
  like so. That kind of goes back to my other thing
• 49:30
  is like so New Zealand is. We look so fucking
• 49:33
  stupid. I just I just said Polynesian to make
• 49:36
  it make sense. I don't actually know Okay, I
• 49:39
  don't know how far away that is. I think it's
• 49:42
  kind of far, but I'm just It's pretty far. It's
• 49:44
  probably pretty far. I'm just gonna say hand
• 49:46
  up. Maybe we don't talk about this Yes, let's
• 49:51
  And that's in geography again. Yeah three for
• 49:55
  the money Geography and nationality. Yes Which
• 50:02
  we should not talk about again. Yeah. Yeah. Probably
• 50:07
  a good idea, actually. Whites. But yeah, Steven
• 50:13
  Adams, very cool. Yeah, I mean, like, I mean,
• 50:20
  other NBA things. I mean, I mean, that's kind
• 50:28
  of it. in the, in the sports world. I mean, uh,
• 50:32
  I, I, we did say, uh, maybe this was last week,
• 50:35
  but I think we did say goodbye to inside the
• 50:38
  NBA. Did we talk, talk about that last week?
• 50:41
  We did, we did, didn't we? We, yeah, we briefly
• 50:43
  discussed it. Yeah. Cause I did say that Ernie
• 50:45
  could say it. I remember that. I did say that.
• 50:51
  Yep. Damn. Yeah. All right. Apparently Shaq won't
• 50:56
  be watching the finals. Don't know if that's
• 50:59
  news, but he was at game one. I'm pretty sure
• 51:02
  hey, it's what he said I Could be wrong, but
• 51:07
  I thought I thought he was there. I thought I
• 51:09
  don't know Did uh did Shaq play on the Pacers
• 51:14
  on his like last now? No, okay. Nah, you remember
• 51:18
  all the teams that he was on there's like Sun's
• 51:21
  heat Celtics calves Think that might be it the
• 51:30
  Cavs. I mean he wasn't like he was still like
• 51:32
  a decent basketball player and with the heat
• 51:33
  too because he won championship but yeah, it's
• 51:37
  like sons and Excuse me and Celtics were like
• 51:41
  his two was like, oh he's still doing here Yeah,
• 51:46
  okay I mean honestly what they should do is just
• 51:53
  make a Mean they have a boatload of money. Just
• 51:57
  like make a YouTube show and just like live stream
• 52:00
  it and then like somebody will buy it with a
• 52:05
  network and like I Don't know. I mean, I don't
• 52:09
  know if they get the rights to play the games
• 52:11
  on TV But I mean They'd probably make more money
• 52:18
  honestly if they wanted to keep doing it. I saw
• 52:21
  what Chuck. I'm pretty sure Has a deal with NBC.
• 52:24
  So I think he's going over there, but I saw right
• 52:27
  I did see a tweet I mean a while ago that someone
• 52:31
  was like that TNT should just keep inside the
• 52:33
  NBA But don't show any like game footage. It's
• 52:37
  just them talking and I guess you can't just
• 52:40
  say inside basketball It's just them talking
• 52:43
  about the games because like we don't need highlights
• 52:45
  or anything like just it's just them shooting
• 52:47
  the shit and It would still be awesome What if
• 52:51
  that show is for people with two TVs that could
• 52:55
  simulcast? Or like, you know how YouTube TV can
• 52:59
  do like the dual screen? Yeah, that would be
• 53:03
  revolutionary. Kind of a marketing genius. I'm
• 53:07
  just saying. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they could go
• 53:15
  the the Pat McAfee show route. I mean, they were
• 53:17
  on YouTube for. Years until ESPN picked him up.
• 53:23
  Yeah, I don't know. I just I kind of want to
• 53:25
  see DJ Diesel just do more stuff. I wasn't very
• 53:30
  impressed when we saw DJ Diesel. Well, we were
• 53:34
  really far back and it was also two in the morning
• 53:37
  and we were very tired and. He kept asking where
• 53:41
  the mosh pit was. Well, we were nowhere there.
• 53:45
  There was no room. Yeah, but we were nowhere
• 53:48
  near a mosh pit at all Yeah, but every every
• 53:52
  two minutes he was asking where this where the
• 53:54
  mosh pit was which is hilarious, but Where my
• 54:00
  mosh pit? Shut up Shaq I mean for real but just
• 54:07
  playing life on easy mode dude Just doing everything
• 54:12
  for a for a dollar I do kind of want to go back
• 54:22
  to the NHL for a sec. Just for a sec. Okay. I
• 54:28
  just had this thought recently. So the NHL has
• 54:38
  these, in any sports franchise, has these tax
• 54:43
  breakdowns of which state you play in, which
• 54:45
  country you play in. Do you think that's probably
• 54:51
  why Canada hasn't won a cup in so long? It's
• 54:56
  because of, like, taxes? Like, because they can't,
• 55:01
  you know, really get, like, the top players?
• 55:05
  I mean, but you think about it and, you know,
• 55:09
  they, like, I mean, I know they drafted him,
• 55:12
  but McDavid signed with Edmonton. Like, he was
• 55:16
  going to play there, but Toronto ended up picking
• 55:20
  up John Tavares and players like that. But the
• 55:27
  big superstars that get to be free agents, they
• 55:33
  never go to Canadian teams because they kind
• 55:35
  of want to get that bag. I was going to say,
• 55:38
  before Tavares, when was the last... Big name
• 55:44
  that and as a free agent signed, you know what?
• 55:47
  I couldn't tell you because that's literally
• 55:49
  the last Player that I can think of that signed
• 55:53
  with Canadian team. That was like a like big
• 55:56
  free agent from another team. Yeah, I Can't like
• 56:01
  I'm super like little pajama boy. Yeah, John
• 56:05
  Tavares I can't I can't think of the last big
• 56:10
  one. I mean I mean, maybe, I mean, I know Nathan
• 56:16
  Kadri is like a third line center, but you know.
• 56:21
  See, that's like I'm talking like superstar.
• 56:23
  I know that's what I mean. Like I think Kadri
• 56:26
  was like probably maybe the last like kind of
• 56:30
  big signing for the flames. And that I was I
• 56:35
  don't know if this is like a chicken or the egg
• 56:37
  thing because outside of Toronto. And I, I mean,
• 56:40
  I know Edmonton has been good, but like Vancouver
• 56:44
  has been shaky for a while. Montreal, other than
• 56:47
  that one year is terrible. Ottawa, I guess you
• 56:50
  kind of say the same thing. So it's like, is
• 56:54
  it because like, they're not going to get as
• 56:57
  much money because of like taxes and shit? Or
• 57:01
  is it just because the teams suck? And that's
• 57:04
  where it's kind of - Yeah, I mean, that's a,
• 57:05
  that's a fair point too. Which one is like -
• 57:07
  Is it, are they not, are they, are they terrible
• 57:10
  because they can't get good players because of
• 57:12
  taxes or are they, but you know what I mean?
• 57:16
  Yeah, but I, I get what you're saying, but, and
• 57:19
  I'm probably repeating you here, but you do have
• 57:22
  good teams in Canada. Oh, like Jets won the president's
• 57:26
  trophy this year. Yeah. Like Edmonton, like who
• 57:31
  wouldn't want to play with Connor McDavid, you
• 57:33
  know, like even if you got to take a pay cut,
• 57:36
  like That's got to be some sort of like mentality
• 57:39
  ring -chasing Especially yeah now that they're
• 57:44
  back -to -back couple appearances like there's
• 57:48
  other than you can't Other than money. There's
• 57:51
  not really a reason or lack thereof I guess there's
• 57:53
  not really a reason where you wouldn't sign with
• 57:55
  Yeah, or wouldn't make an attempt to sign someone
• 57:58
  if it's a team If it's the team's fault, I think
• 58:03
  it's definitely a factor With you know free agent
• 58:09
  signing like I mean, you know at the end of the
• 58:11
  day it is, you know money so You know you get
• 58:16
  paid it million dollars a year here in in Nashville
• 58:19
  You know with taxes and stuff. I mean you're
• 58:23
  really looking at like six point five But the
• 58:27
  same eight million in like New York is like four
• 58:31
  like and I don't know I don't know what the actual
• 58:38
  rate is in Canada, but I know that the Canadian
• 58:42
  dollar is worth less than the American dollar.
• 58:46
  But I'm pretty sure they get paid in American
• 58:49
  dollars. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Okay.
• 58:54
  I think we've had this discussion just as as
• 58:57
  friends. I don't know if we've had on the show
• 58:59
  before, but I think we had this discussion be
• 59:01
  like, what do you like to Do Edmonton players
• 59:05
  get paid in like the weird coloring book money
• 59:08
  or the Monopoly's money. Yeah Yeah, they get
• 59:14
  paid in coins, yeah Rupees that's India Looney's
• 59:23
  and Tooney's Other silly words Some male blank
• 59:31
  money so kind of in that same vein I know Biz
• 59:35
  was on like the post game talk and he mentioned
• 59:38
  how like Florida players or like Florida being
• 59:42
  able to sign players because of like low state
• 59:45
  income tax or no state income tax, but also like
• 59:48
  how many like between the Lightning and the Panthers,
• 59:52
  how many like big name guys have they got in
• 59:56
  their most recent success that they like went
• 59:59
  out and got from another team? See, that's what
• 1:00:01
  I'm saying. Like I feel like they've all got
• 1:00:04
  them through like trades, trades or draft. So
• 1:00:07
  it's like trades. You can maybe say like, hey,
• 1:00:09
  we'll we'll restructure your deal and we'll do
• 1:00:12
  that. But even then, like I feel like most of
• 1:00:15
  Florida's core has been guys they've drafted
• 1:00:18
  or at least guys they've had for a very long
• 1:00:20
  time. And kind of the same with Tampa Bay when
• 1:00:23
  they were in their heyday. So I don't. Like,
• 1:00:27
  I know Biz said that, and it is a fact, like
• 1:00:29
  there is no say in that, so they could theoretically
• 1:00:31
  go, but they haven't. And I thought one of the
• 1:00:34
  few times I've agreed with a statement that came
• 1:00:36
  out of Gary Bettman's mouth. He was like, nobody
• 1:00:38
  cared about that when the Florida teams were
• 1:00:40
  terrible. So why do we care now? I was like,
• 1:00:43
  you know what? That's a good point. That is a
• 1:00:45
  good point. That is a really good point. Wow.
• 1:00:49
  He said something intelligent. That's crazy.
• 1:00:52
  A hockey Hall of Famer right there. Put himself
• 1:00:55
  in. T -tits. Screw G. I mean. I mean, wouldn't
• 1:01:03
  you? It makes a lot of sense. I mean, well, OK,
• 1:01:05
  he he's done a lot of good for the league, aside
• 1:01:08
  from the lockouts, but. Yeah, I know. I would
• 1:01:13
  just I would. I didn't. I was trying to stir
• 1:01:15
  up a conversation. I know. Yeah. That's fine.
• 1:01:20
  Stir up the conversation. That's what this is
• 1:01:22
  for. He is a hockey elephant Yeah, so it it makes
• 1:01:32
  that does really make a lot of sense With you
• 1:01:38
  know, they did nobody cared when they sucked
• 1:01:39
  so But it is also a factor like it's a factor
• 1:01:46
  you that players cannot ignore like, you know
• 1:01:50
  We if we offer a guy seven million dollars but
• 1:01:55
  like he gets offered eight somewhere else uh
• 1:02:00
  he's probably gonna make more money with us just
• 1:02:04
  depending on the state yeah 100 yeah yeah and
• 1:02:08
  so it's it's definitely a factor to contribute
• 1:02:14
  i mean when you're you know a free agent but
• 1:02:16
  yeah money's money What are you going to say
• 1:02:22
  Chris? What are you going to say? Well, I was
• 1:02:24
  just going to say like, the Preds, I mean, Nashville
• 1:02:27
  has, or Tennessee also has, like we said, you
• 1:02:30
  make more money in Tennessee than elsewhere.
• 1:02:33
  I mean, and we've signed big name free agents
• 1:02:35
  and it hasn't done us fucking anything. So. Yeah.
• 1:02:38
  I mean, yeah. Well, that's us. Yeah, but when
• 1:02:43
  you're making the argument of you can get better
• 1:02:45
  players because you have little to no state income
• 1:02:48
  tax, you can say, well, Look at Nashville. Well,
• 1:02:52
  I thought the end all be all it's fine I think
• 1:02:56
  you can get better players with no with the different
• 1:03:01
  tax codes with ever whichever state or country
• 1:03:03
  you play in But I I still think it's about who's
• 1:03:08
  on the bench. Oh It is it is and that's kind
• 1:03:12
  of what I'm saying. It's like yeah. Yeah, you
• 1:03:14
  can make that argument It's like yeah, you can
• 1:03:15
  go out you could theoretically go out and get
• 1:03:17
  bigger name guys because of your advantages but
• 1:03:20
  Like you could say well look at the Preds like
• 1:03:23
  they've signed big names and haven't done shit.
• 1:03:26
  So signing big names is not Is not all You can't
• 1:03:31
  just like throw out checks and be like, okay
• 1:03:33
  now you're amazing. You're gonna win cups forever
• 1:03:36
  because that's just not how it works Yeah, okay.
• 1:03:39
  Well, let's run it back to the NBA. When was
• 1:03:41
  the last time the Raptors were good? I mean they
• 1:03:44
  won a title Okay With kawaii, but that was very
• 1:03:48
  much like they traded for him They knew he was
• 1:03:50
  going to be a rental. And then they won. What
• 1:03:54
  year was that? 13. Okay. That was, that was 12
• 1:03:58
  years ago. Maybe it wasn't shit. When was that?
• 1:04:02
  That was like, that was like 17, 17. Oh damn.
• 1:04:06
  Okay. Yeah. I don't know why I thought I was
• 1:04:08
  in high school. It was eight years ago. Okay.
• 1:04:12
  Why is it only like 30? He hasn't been in the
• 1:04:14
  league. Yeah. So, but that was eight years ago.
• 1:04:20
  Okay, but when were the Raptors? Good Oh before
• 1:04:25
  that the Raptors made the playoffs how? How many
• 1:04:29
  times are the Raptors made the playoffs after
• 1:04:31
  that? Oh since yeah Maybe once like let me let
• 1:04:37
  me look up just how many times they've made it
• 1:04:39
  see I think that's a better point is Comparing
• 1:04:43
  it to the NBA because there's only one team You
• 1:04:47
  can probably do the same with the MLB with the
• 1:04:49
  Blue Jays Interesting. I don't know. I'm just
• 1:04:57
  saying, like, I mean, I think, I do think money
• 1:05:00
  has something to do with how well Canadian teams
• 1:05:05
  do. I mean, that's a fact. That's a fact, but
• 1:05:11
  it's, it's whoever's the manager, whoever's the,
• 1:05:14
  whoever's behind the bench, whoever's the coach,
• 1:05:17
  you know. The Raptors they won it in 2018 19.
• 1:05:22
  They made the playoffs the following year They
• 1:05:25
  lost in the second round and then they made it
• 1:05:28
  again in 21 22 and got bounced in the first round
• 1:05:31
  Okay, so that's not as bad as I thought but they've
• 1:05:35
  been Bad, I feel like they've been pretty bad
• 1:05:39
  the last few years. Yeah, they did have a run
• 1:05:42
  14 to 22 they made the playoffs all but one year.
• 1:05:46
  It was a Drake curse, right? with the championship
• 1:05:49
  mixed in, but yeah, that was, but before that
• 1:05:54
  they had made the playoffs. One, two, five times
• 1:05:58
  and 20 years, 18 years. So yeah. Yeah. I mean,
• 1:06:07
  you know, the same thing with the blue J is like,
• 1:06:09
  I mean, they haven't been like, they kind of
• 1:06:14
  like the same thing. They haven't really been
• 1:06:15
  very good. So Mm -hmm Yeah, okay, I definitely
• 1:06:21
  think that that is a factor in the in the Canadian
• 1:06:23
  team Canadian teams. They're different tax bracket
• 1:06:26
  Or different tax rates, whatever But yeah There's
• 1:06:34
  one thing there's one thing I wanted to bring
• 1:06:38
  up this is this is baseball I saw a tweet today
• 1:06:41
  that made me laugh. It was a fun fact for this
• 1:06:45
  season about all or about every MLB team. And
• 1:06:49
  there's one in here that is hilarious, but I
• 1:06:54
  wanna y 'all throw out a couple of team names.
• 1:06:57
  I'll give you their fun fact and then I'll give
• 1:06:59
  you the very, very funny one at the end after
• 1:07:03
  a couple. The Padres. Padres, let's see. Did
• 1:07:07
  you know that they're named after a priest? Is
• 1:07:12
  more baseball related but this Best batting average
• 1:07:17
  with two outs for this season. It doesn't say
• 1:07:19
  what it is. It just says All right. Let's go
• 1:07:22
  with the Rockies then most triples Damn all right,
• 1:07:29
  that's something You've won 11 baseball games.
• 1:07:32
  That's yes, that's great. That's a that's a crazy
• 1:07:34
  step the Mets the Mets best team ERA All right,
• 1:07:42
  so every team has a best of something It's like
• 1:07:46
  yeah, it's like a best of this certain stat whether
• 1:07:49
  it be something fun or something like real like
• 1:07:51
  that Yeah, and what's a fun one? Give me a fun
• 1:07:56
  one. Okay. I'll just go ahead and give you the
• 1:07:58
  Just the egregious one Yeah, the Baltimore Orioles
• 1:08:03
  It it says this verbatim Heaviest team by average
• 1:08:11
  weight. I love I came across this tweet and it
• 1:08:18
  was so funny. It was like, hey, here's a little
• 1:08:20
  trinket about every stat that this certain team
• 1:08:23
  is leading in. Oh, and the Orioles are fat as
• 1:08:26
  fuck. They got the Baltimore Orioles, the fattest
• 1:08:31
  team in baseball. They they are. Statistically.
• 1:08:38
  It's just so funny. Is that is that the most
• 1:08:42
  outlandish one? Oh, yeah, I mean all these are
• 1:08:45
  actually like it's like highest first pitch strike
• 1:08:47
  percentage like Most trip like yeah most triples
• 1:08:51
  fewest walks allowed highest team OPS Like things
• 1:08:55
  that actually matter and like a stat in the game
• 1:08:58
  of baseball and it's just the Orioles are fat
• 1:09:02
  That's awesome, that's hilarious The Marlins?
• 1:09:14
  Oh, that's the Marlins actually have the most
• 1:09:18
  home runs by rookies. So there you go. I don't
• 1:09:22
  see one with like most home runs. That's weird.
• 1:09:29
  Okay. I want to throw that in there because it
• 1:09:34
  made me it made me chuckle today. Everyone loves
• 1:09:37
  a fun fact. The Orioles are fat. The Orioles
• 1:09:41
  are fat. All right. I'm gonna I'm gonna end this
• 1:09:44
  one here except Shout out TJ Yoshi Retired yesterday
• 1:09:50
  American hero. Oh he retired? Yeah, I didn't
• 1:09:54
  see that. He retired at exactly 1600 games, which
• 1:09:58
  was like Honestly, the OCD in me. I was like
• 1:10:01
  I respect that That's a lot of games. Yeah Wow
• 1:10:06
  American hero, I will never I will never forget
• 1:10:10
  that Olympics ever. Nope. That was best Shout
• 1:10:15
  out shout out Did you know he's older than Sydney
• 1:10:19
  he crossed me No, that makes sense. He looks
• 1:10:23
  hella young that blew my mind and I know like
• 1:10:26
  mathematically Yeah, make it obvious because
• 1:10:28
  he is it makes sense. But like I saw that on
• 1:10:31
  like Somewhere I think was on Twitter and I was
• 1:10:34
  like What? Right. Yeah, it blew my mind. But
• 1:10:41
  yeah, shout out T .J. Oshie. Shout out American
• 1:10:44
  Hero. Big fan of the show. All right. I'm going
• 1:10:48
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• 1:11:31
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• 1:11:34
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• 1:11:36
  by the time we get back. Right. We wouldn't even
• 1:11:39
  know. We wouldn't even know. Yeah, we'll see
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  you next week. There's three of us. Now let's
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