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- 2:01Speaker 1: You're listening to Taking Stock with Kathleen and pim Box
- 2:05Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio early on Saturday. Over the weekend, the
- 2:10Speaker 1: New York State Legislature they passed a well, they tried
- 2:14Speaker 1: to pass a bill that we've signed into law would
- 2:17Speaker 1: change the entire landscape of fantasy sports. New York State
- 2:22Speaker 1: Senate passing Senate Bill eight one five three to regulate
- 2:26Speaker 1: interactive Fantasy Sports contest. A companion bill had been previously
- 2:31Speaker 1: passed in the State Assembly. Here to tell us a
- 2:34Speaker 1: little bit more about it and the repercussions for the
- 2:37Speaker 1: fantasy sports business is Jay Koream. He is the founder
- 2:41Speaker 1: and owner of Dreamco Design. He is the author of
- 2:44Speaker 1: the book Daily Fantasy Sports, and is a member of
- 2:48Speaker 1: the Legislative Affairs Committee for the Fantasy Sports Trade Association. Jay,
- 2:52Speaker 1: thank you very much for being with us. Thanks for
- 2:54Speaker 1: having me. Now, there seems to be a bit of
- 2:56Speaker 1: a contradiction because, as I said, uh, this bill passed
- 3:01Speaker 1: by the Senate, and then there's the companion bill it
- 3:04Speaker 1: was previously passed by the State Assembly. Um seems to
- 3:08Speaker 1: contradict what the New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman issued
- 3:12Speaker 1: that season desist order at last November. What exactly is
- 3:15Speaker 1: going on here in the world of fantasy sports business. Sure, so,
- 3:18Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. It was definitely a rebuke
- 3:22Speaker 1: and one that was good for the industry and for
- 3:25Speaker 1: consumers on on the business side and with h you know,
- 3:28Speaker 1: consumers because they're going to have more options in terms
- 3:31Speaker 1: of how and where they play. So fantasy sports has
- 3:34Speaker 1: been around for decades. People have been playing in season
- 3:37Speaker 1: long leagues and whatnot. Daily fantasy sports within the last
- 3:40Speaker 1: twenty four months has ramped up as an industry. It's
- 3:43Speaker 1: quite large. There are fifty seven million people in North
- 3:45Speaker 1: America that play fantasy sports in some capacity. And daily
- 3:50Speaker 1: fantasy sports really caught on last year. A lot of
- 3:52Speaker 1: people recall seeing ads from FANDUL and Draftings. So New
- 3:56Speaker 1: York Attorney General is really the one that thrust it
- 3:59Speaker 1: into the spot light as having a negative opinion of
- 4:02Speaker 1: the industry and considering it nothing more than a form
- 4:04Speaker 1: of gambling. So on the federal end, we have what's
- 4:08Speaker 1: called UIJAH. It's essentially a car about so that operators
- 4:13Speaker 1: like vandel and draftings could exist. Fantasy sports are looked
- 4:16Speaker 1: at as games of skill. However, individual states they can
- 4:20Speaker 1: choose what is gambling and what's not. Uh, and the
- 4:23Speaker 1: Attorney General in New York thought that it was uh,
- 4:26Speaker 1: you know, gambling and it was not a skill based
- 4:28Speaker 1: game and every state they determined what the word gambling
- 4:32Speaker 1: means in their states. So that's that's the interesting side
- 4:34Speaker 1: of it. So DDE. This is so interesting though that
- 4:37Speaker 1: this bill passed by the New York State Senate to
- 4:41Speaker 1: regulate interactive fantasy sports contest a companion bill the previously
- 4:45Speaker 1: passed in the state Assembly. But this is a big deal. Uh.
- 4:48Speaker 1: They started debating Friday night, they went into the wee
- 4:50Speaker 1: hours of the morning. They didn't vote till to a
- 4:53Speaker 1: m Uh, this passes. What has stepped up the urgency
- 4:57Speaker 1: And to what extent is this a win for Eric Schneiderman,
- 5:00Speaker 1: next Attorney General? How much is it a win for
- 5:04Speaker 1: the big fantasy sports players. So the fight in New
- 5:08Speaker 1: York has been going on since the Attorney General came
- 5:11Speaker 1: out and said that this is nothing more than gambling
- 5:14Speaker 1: and we need to do everything we can to shut
- 5:15Speaker 1: down Vanduel, Draft Kings and any other operator. So it's
- 5:19Speaker 1: not a new thing. However, they did, you know, the state,
- 5:23Speaker 1: the state legislator did want to get it done prior
- 5:25Speaker 1: to the session ending so that we didn't criminalize people
- 5:29Speaker 1: that are playing fantasy sports for money. And there was
- 5:31Speaker 1: a similar issue unfolding in Illinois as well. So it
- 5:35Speaker 1: even though it had the has the takeaway of this
- 5:38Speaker 1: just came up, just happened. This battle has been going
- 5:41Speaker 1: on for quite a while. Uh and there are three
- 5:43Speaker 1: core principles at the Fantasy Sports Trade Association and Vanduel
- 5:48Speaker 1: DraftKings as well, we're really looking for and trying to
- 5:50Speaker 1: make sure we worked end roads within the state to
- 5:53Speaker 1: have happened. We want to make sure that fantasy sports
- 5:55Speaker 1: are considered a game of skill. We're fine with basic
- 5:57Speaker 1: consumer protections, but we also needed to make sure that
- 6:00Speaker 1: there was a fee structure put in place that wasn't
- 6:02Speaker 1: going to, you know, be the death sentence for a
- 6:05Speaker 1: lot of small businesses or create a duopoly. So there
- 6:08Speaker 1: were a lot of moving parts behind the scenes that
- 6:10Speaker 1: were unfolding over the last few weeks to get the
- 6:12Speaker 1: bill where it is today. Can you give us an
- 6:15Speaker 1: idea of how much, for example, draft kings brought in
- 6:19Speaker 1: from user fees because that seems to be the big
- 6:22Speaker 1: money maker there. Yeah. So the way that these operators,
- 6:26Speaker 1: these fantasy sport operators make money is they can they
- 6:30Speaker 1: keep a percentage. So let's say there's a ten man
- 6:33Speaker 1: uh ten dollar contest. It's a hundred dollars total, Well,
- 6:36Speaker 1: ninety would be part of the prize pool, and they
- 6:37Speaker 1: would keep ten dollars, you know, collectively. What the individual
- 6:42Speaker 1: companies are doing, it varies what you're going to hear
- 6:44Speaker 1: from FANDUL or Draftings. However, they have taken hundreds of
- 6:47Speaker 1: millions of dollars over the course of time and deposits.
- 6:50Speaker 1: So it certainly is you know, substantial. Uh, and you know,
- 6:54Speaker 1: to some extent, it's not a surprise the government wants
- 6:57Speaker 1: to get involved because it thinks it can it can
- 6:59Speaker 1: cut into I don't have the specifics in front of me,
- 7:01Speaker 1: but I do actually have a chapter dedicated to the
- 7:03Speaker 1: financials in the book. Just really quick, think about ten
- 7:06Speaker 1: seconds left. How many people were betting on the Big
- 7:09Speaker 1: Game last night? Uh? The sports betting and fantasy sports
- 7:13Speaker 1: very different. Yeah, there are two very different things. They
- 7:15Speaker 1: shouldn't have been doing anything like that when it comes
- 7:18Speaker 1: to fantasy sports. Both vandel and Draftings definitely have interest
- 7:21Speaker 1: in going public. So we'll say, Jakorea, thank you so much.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Founder and owner of Dream Code Design, he's also the
- 7:29Speaker 1: author of Daily Fantasy Sports and a member of the
- 7:33Speaker 1: Legislative Affairs Committee for the Fantasy Sports Trade Association on
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